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[13:09:45] <mrcoolbp> Editors, feel free to edit that meta article as you see fit.
[13:10:53] <janrinok> I just tried to add my own personal thanks as a comment - but of course it is not released yet and I got an error. Somedays (every day) I find that I am not too bright :)
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[13:43:53] <cmn32480_wife> janrinok - you be nice
[13:44:01] <cmn32480_wife> mrcoolbp - you make him behave!
[13:44:05] <janrinok> lol
[13:44:24] <mrcoolbp> don't think he would if I told him
[13:44:25] <janrinok> that has made my day!
[13:44:48] <cmn32480_wife> perhaps we need a wives group.... just to keep all of you in line!
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[13:45:35] <mrcoolbp> lol
[13:45:41] <janrinok> OK, but please don't tell my wife!
[13:46:32] <cmn32480> sheesh... I hate it when she does that
[13:46:33] <janrinok> better call it a spouses or significant others' site - we might have wives on the team?
[13:47:04] <cmn32480> the wives are already part of the community. the disgruntled minority.....
[13:47:14] <janrinok> it made me splutter tea all over the screen! You will page for that.
[13:48:17] <cmn32480> I will page for that? over the loudspeaker system?
[13:49:11] <cmn32480> I'm glad I could liven up your Sunday. They say laughter is the best medicine
[13:49:50] <janrinok> er, bloody tea in the keyboard too
[13:51:25] <cmn32480> we need to get you one of these? http://www.wetkeys.com
[13:51:26] <Scruffy> ^ 03Washable Keyboards | Waterproof Keyboards - More Styles and Brands than Anywhere Else at WetKeys Washable Keyboards
[13:51:55] <janrinok> Yeah, all US keyboards with unwanted symbols hehehe
[13:54:36] <cmn32480> what style do you use?
[13:54:39] <cmn32480> AZERTY?
[13:55:14] <janrinok> Both UK and FR keyboards, but mainly the former. You know, the one the both £ and $
[13:55:39] <janrinok> and € and the other useful symbols like grave and accented characters
[13:56:14] <janrinok> with all those keys in the correct places
[13:56:15] <cmn32480> I sometimes forget that the rest of the world uses weird characters....
[13:56:30] <janrinok> we try to
[13:58:24] <cmn32480> I know... I'm just another US centric American
[13:58:43] <janrinok> they're the best kind - easy to mock but hard to rile
[14:00:09] <cmn32480> all I'm finding are silicone overlays... perhaps replacement keycaps?
[14:01:22] <cmn32480> http://www.ebay.co.uk
[14:01:23] <Scruffy> ^ 03A4 Tech X7 G800V Gaming Keyboard, 15 Macro Programable Keys, UK Layout | eBay
[14:01:40] <cmn32480> there you go! and it has a "spill proof structure"
[14:02:38] <janrinok> I've got one of those, but it significantly degrades the tactile feedback for anyone other than the slowest typist. They might be suitable for a workshop or laboratory, but if you spend any signifcant amount of time pounding the keys they don't help much at all. They do protect against flying tea, though.
[14:03:20] <janrinok> 'one of those' relates to the silicone overlay - not the gaming keyboard
[14:03:28] <cmn32480> ahh
[14:03:29] <cmn32480> yes
[14:03:32] <cmn32480> I hate them
[14:03:41] <cmn32480> but I spend a lot of time pounding a keyboard
[14:03:49] <janrinok> dito
[14:03:52] <janrinok> ditto
[14:04:00] <janrinok> that's tea for you!
[14:04:14] <cmn32480> coffee
[14:05:49] <cmn32480> this is almost exactly what I spend most of my typing time on
[14:05:50] <cmn32480> http://www.newegg.com
[14:05:55] <Scruffy> ^ 03CM Storm QuickFire TK - Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with CHERRY MX Brown Switches and Fully Backlit - Newegg.com
[14:06:06] <cmn32480> same keyboard, but mine is only partially backlit
[14:06:48] <paulej72> hola amigos
[14:06:59] <janrinok> not sure why that is a 'gaming' keyboard? I have a mixture of Microsoft and Logitech keyboards, some cable and some wifi
[14:07:02] <cmn32480> heya paulej72
[14:07:03] <janrinok> paulej72: hi
[14:07:28] <cmn32480> gaming mostly because it has the function keys on top that can be programmed.
[14:07:34] <cmn32480> also is mechanical
[14:07:45] <janrinok> all my mice are now wireless and I'll replace the cable keyboards when they wear out
[14:07:56] <cmn32480> i VERY rarely play games anymore, but I love the feel of the mechanical keyboard
[14:08:02] <janrinok> agreed
[14:08:32] <cmn32480> i just replaced 2 switches in that one for the enter keys with a much heavier (80g) switch
[14:08:38] <janrinok> I have an old Compaq keyboard which is lovely to use, but sounds like a machine gun
[14:08:49] <paulej72> hate batteries for mice, and I have had poor response from bluetooth mice
[14:09:12] <cmn32480> the mechanicals depend on the switches
[14:09:21] <paulej72> but I also have cord failure on most of my wired mice
[14:09:49] <janrinok> I have about 2 dozen rechargeable batteries for mice and keyboards, about half in use and the other half ready charged and waiting to go.
[14:10:02] <cmn32480> this page has a good explaination of the different Cherry switches
[14:10:03] <cmn32480> http://www.maxkeyboard.com
[14:10:04] <Scruffy> ^ 03Max Keyboard Keycap, Cherry MX Switch, O-Ring Pro Sampler Tester Kit
[14:10:44] <cmn32480> paulej72: cord failures is one thign I have never had an issue with on mice
[14:11:00] <janrinok> I hate microsoft software but their hardware is quite good - not a good as the Cherry I guess, but quite usable
[14:11:07] <cmn32480> I'm still using a nearly 10yr old Dell mouse that I "borrowed" from a job
[14:11:10] <paulej72> i typically use dell ones, so that might be the issue
[14:11:57] <cmn32480> my everyday in the office mouse is a 6 year old dell... the one at home is 10yrs old
[14:12:34] <cmn32480> janrinok - the cherry switches are supposed to be the best mechanicals on the market.
[14:13:07] <cmn32480> the brown switches are virtually silent with the O rings
[14:14:12] <janrinok> so I've heard. Not (knowingly) used a Cherry for quite a few years now.
[14:15:17] <cmn32480> I'm partial, as tehy are what I use daily
[15:05:00] <CoolHand> anyone know if mrcoolbp intentionally used the little-used alternate spelling of caviar ("caviare") in the SN Funding article?
[15:14:51] <cmn32480> I'
[15:14:57] <cmn32480> d call it unlikely
[15:15:13] <cmn32480> and since there ahve been 3 of us who have looked at it, you get the gold star coolhand
[15:23:22] <CoolHand> ah, thanks, cmn32480 :)
[15:24:02] <cmn32480> very welcome, good sir
[15:25:36] <CoolHand> looks like Bytram fixed it.. not sure if he saw my post, or also spotted it on his own..
[15:26:06] * CoolHand wonders where he should display his gold star
[17:19:20] <janrinok> CoolHand: I did the caviare spelling - but yours looks better
[17:20:10] <janrinok> Both are acceptable according to my dictionary
[17:20:23] <janrinok> wear your gold star with pride
[17:46:01] <paulej72> good news I got p tags working correctly in submission edits
[17:46:28] <paulej72> slash made that real hard to fix though
[17:47:53] <paulej72> There will be a sight issue when we transition in that old subs will need to be edited to add more missing p tag than newly created ones
[17:49:11] <janrinok> well done - although I don't quite follow the changes required to old subs, but I'll take your word for it
[17:54:34] <cmn32480> I'm gonna ask a stupid question. What's a p tag?
[17:54:39] <janrinok> <p>
[17:54:49] <cmn32480> ah
[17:55:01] <cmn32480> the paragraph tag duh
[17:55:30] <janrinok> trying to get slashcode/rehash to automatically process submissions so that they are consistent has not been an easy task
[17:55:36] <cmn32480> we now return to our regularly scheduled programming
[17:55:40] <janrinok> lol
[17:56:36] <paulej72> now I have to look at journals as the code seems to be the same. I may have to fix that as well.
[17:57:39] <cmn32480> hospital floor plans make my head spin
[17:57:56] <paulej72> depends on the hospital.
[17:58:31] <cmn32480> I'm using them to design an RFID system for charging patients
[17:58:41] <cmn32480> I'm not so sure it will depend on the facility
[17:58:47] <paulej72> New ones are designed fairly easy to navigate. Old hostpitals that were added on time and time again are a bitch
[17:59:05] <cmn32480> agreed
[17:59:26] <cmn32480> this one is almost complete. and NOW they wanna think about the RFID system
[17:59:55] <janrinok> I suppose you're one of those weirdos who expect people to think ahead?
[18:00:15] <cmn32480> means a retrofit for gang boxes... running coax in the completed ceilings
[18:00:19] <cmn32480> gigantic cluster
[18:00:27] <cmn32480> AND they want it done by July 1
[18:00:37] <paulej72> so if a patient walks through door 201 they are charged $20
[18:00:41] <janrinok> it'll cost em more, that's for sure
[18:00:42] <cmn32480> it woudl ahve been a lot easier if they had thought ahead.
[18:01:04] <cmn32480> more for the stuff they use on the patient after he walks through door 201
[18:01:22] <janrinok> lets hope they don't have too many wandering patients. I had 2 wander into my room last time I was in for any length of time
[18:01:41] <cmn32480> for all the fun stuff
[18:01:43] <cmn32480> catheters
[18:01:47] <cmn32480> urine bags
[18:01:51] <cmn32480> anal probes
[18:01:54] <paulej72> so they want to scan each iv bag and compress at time of use
[18:02:08] <cmn32480> basically anythgin that costs more than about $10
[18:02:13] <janrinok> you're taking the piss and giving me a bum's rush?
[18:02:28] <cmn32480> exactly! :-)
[18:02:28] <paulej72> more than 10 that is everyting including a cup of ice
[18:02:45] <cmn32480> the ice is free... the cup is what costs you
[18:02:54] <paulej72> and the rfid tags cost how much now
[18:03:01] <cmn32480> depends on the tag.
[18:03:13] <cmn32480> for the stuff we are looking at, about 8 cents
[18:03:15] <janrinok> seriously, it make sense but, as you say, it could have been done easier. My local hosp just barcodes the room with your patient ID, and then scans that barcode and the item used. job done
[18:03:27] <paulej72> can I get the job putting one on each tongue depressor
[18:03:32] <cmn32480> that is the traditional way to do it.
[18:04:04] <cmn32480> the problem is that a lot of nurses can't be bothered to scan the barcode.
[18:04:11] <cmn32480> this cost the hospital $$
[18:04:27] <paulej72> so they will not be bothered to swipe the rfid
[18:05:07] <cmn32480> easier process. when they are prepping the stuff for the patient, they only have to wave it past the antenna. no finding the barcode, etc.
[18:05:41] <cmn32480> but I agree paulej72, that is the flaw in all of it. if the nurses don't wanna do it, they just won't.
[18:05:45] <paulej72> yes and that takes time and will be forgotten in most cases
[18:06:04] <paulej72> plus the anntena will be in a location that is not convenient
[18:07:00] <cmn32480> the nurses picked the antenna location
[18:07:11] <janrinok> that's what he said
[18:07:54] <janrinok> cmn32480: you could probably do without all these negative vibes, amiright?
[18:13:04] <cmn32480> all I hav to do is design and implement. getting the nurses to use it is thte hospital's problem.
[18:14:06] <janrinok> exactly
[18:15:27] <cmn32480> so I'm not stressing. And when this revision goes out, there will be a line in the quote that states "Any further design changes will result in an hourly T&M charge of $150/hour for document revisions and redesign work."
[19:48:29] <janrinok> got to go
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