#editorial | Logs for 2015-04-10

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[00:01:26] <chromas> you made a bun
[00:02:22] <mrcoolbp> .unvoice chromas cause he’s making me look bad
[00:03:35] <mrcoolbp> NotSanguine/takyon: what did we decide about the Torture-Music story? We could post for the weekend...
[00:03:49] <takyon> is it kill
[00:03:56] <mrcoolbp> ?
[00:03:58] <takyon> I wasn't around to see what happened to it
[00:04:09] <mrcoolbp> https://soylentnews.org
[00:04:10] <RobotHouse> ^ 0304SN Submission by gewg_: Songs By Prince, Eminem, Metallica Named In CIA Torture Report
[00:04:37] <takyon> well the U.S. midnight slots are taken, so we ought to push it to Saturday
[00:04:53] <mrcoolbp> takyon: question was more “do we even run it?”
[00:05:04] * takyon reads it
[00:06:03] <takyon> it's a little old
[00:06:16] <takyon> Feb2old
[00:08:04] <mrcoolbp> I vote reject
[00:08:10] <mrcoolbp> NotSanguine: ^
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[00:08:23] <mrcoolbp> it was iffy-at-best methinks
[00:08:37] <takyon> if it had been from april I would have said yes, now I say kill
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[00:18:17] <mrcoolbp> takyon: “delete” it
[00:19:10] <takyon> goodbye sweet gewg_
[00:19:15] <mrcoolbp> heh
[00:19:16] <mrcoolbp> takyon: deleting (rejecting) old stories is important. I try to confirm with at least one other editor before I do so. If we don’t, it looks like there are “plenty” of stories
[00:19:40] <takyon> understood
[00:20:03] <mrcoolbp> we are all hesitant to do it
[00:20:07] <mrcoolbp> which is fine
[00:20:11] <takyon> jesus what is up with phys.org as a source
[00:20:26] <mrcoolbp> they are on a roll lately = )
[00:20:29] <takyon> for even this TV5Monde attack article
[00:20:40] <takyon> I don't like phys.org because they do a lot of copy+paste
[00:21:17] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I know that their feed in #rss-bot had some nuggets in it yesterday, s’why I used ‘em
[00:21:26] <mrcoolbp> plus they sound “sciency”
[00:22:04] <takyon> it's a facade
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[11:24:32] <cmn32480> coolhand ping\
[11:24:46] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp ping
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[19:03:02] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: this is a better channel for editor stuff anyways
[19:03:20] <wantkitteh> cool
[19:03:59] <wantkitteh> I asked about that in here yesterday before stuff happened, but no-one answered, thought I’d try staff
[19:05:15] <mrcoolbp> yeah, that works, but like I said, we get highlighted and often hear a noise if you mention our names
[19:21:43] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: the ebook-covers article? Interesting choice
[19:22:10] <wantkitteh> I deliberately didn’t chose it, just the next one in the list
[19:22:24] <wantkitteh> don’t want to go around cherry-picking the easy ones ;)
[19:22:55] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: good thinking, but that’s a particularly odd one
[19:23:14] <wantkitteh> I did two easy ones already ;)
[19:23:20] <mrcoolbp> cool
[19:23:51] <mrcoolbp> don’t forget to remove any “For Training” or “Delete this line” stuff
[19:24:16] <wantkitteh> Now dev is working again, I’ll actually have something constructive to do whiel I”m contracting ;)
[19:24:54] <mrcoolbp> yay
[19:25:09] <mrcoolbp> well I’m available for the next 2 hours or so
[19:26:37] <wantkitteh> cool - saved, see what you think
[19:27:35] <wantkitteh> now I think about it, that Obama mandatory voting one wasn’t particularly easy, the submission was factually incorrect… kinda
[19:28:18] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: set the story to go out 5 minutes ago
[19:28:25] <mrcoolbp> and “display” it
[19:28:44] <wantkitteh> janrinok asked me to set them back and keep them together so he could find them easily, he’s kinda my official trainer
[19:29:12] <mrcoolbp> okay, I see the block now
[19:29:34] <wantkitteh> did you set it to display?
[19:29:41] <mrcoolbp> yeah he mentioned that he had to take a few days off, and if I could poke in and help if possible
[19:29:54] * mrcoolbp looks at the ebook story
[19:30:03] <wantkitteh> wondered why I hadn’t seen him, but given his circumstances I not surprised
[19:31:27] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: look at the title
[19:31:50] <wantkitteh> ah, that’s what that Safari crash did
[19:32:32] <wantkitteh> not sure why, I’m suddenly setting safari content process crashes on the dev site, I thought I’d put everything back, missed that ;)
[19:41:44] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: with the title case in order, I think the story is technically good
[19:41:52] <mrcoolbp> = )
[19:42:01] <wantkitteh> rawr
[19:43:15] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: On the obama story, I think commas would be better than the double -- --
[19:43:34] <mrcoolbp> we try to avoid the “ -- “ where possible
[19:44:34] <mrcoolbp> so it could read: “That means about 144 million Americans, more than the population of Russia, skipped out.”
[19:49:19] <wantkitteh> I’ll check that in a minute
[19:49:22] <mrcoolbp> k
[19:50:06] <wantkitteh> got a question about sources, I’m looking at the drone pilot arrested one at the moment
[19:50:58] <wantkitteh> the submitted source isn’t great, but the engadget article that source appears to have got a lot of it’s information from is rather better - is it okay to change sources in that situation?
[19:51:58] <mrcoolbp> well we don’t want to change what the author (submitter) intended. Let’s take a look
[19:52:40] <mrcoolbp> so he didn’t include a long writeup, mostly just a quote right?
[19:52:47] <wantkitteh> yes
[19:52:57] <mrcoolbp> personally how I would handle this is take one good quote from his source
[19:53:07] <wantkitteh> double-source it?
[19:53:10] <mrcoolbp> totally
[19:53:19] <mrcoolbp> we can add our own stuff below his sub
[19:53:27] <wantkitteh> Ok, that’s totally doable
[19:54:06] <mrcoolbp> “We also found coverage over at XXX. It says BLAH BLAH. From the $NEWSOURCE: <quote>”
[19:54:16] <mrcoolbp> I think that’s enough to denote that we are adding something
[19:55:08] * mrcoolbp shrugs
[19:55:31] <mrcoolbp> some of this stuff we have to make up as we go along
[19:56:53] <mrcoolbp> I’m open to suggestions on how else to handle it
[19:57:17] <mrcoolbp> it’s tough to balance “editing” and improving a submission, without changing what the submission is = )
[19:59:15] <mrcoolbp> you have to remember, editing is a thankless job (most of the time). If the Story that we run is perfect, the submitter will get (most of?) the credit. If it’s “wrong” or “bad”, we get the flack = )
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[20:00:02] <mrcoolbp> ^not to be confused with takyon
[20:00:05] <mrcoolbp> = )
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[20:01:13] <mrcoolbp> = (
[20:21:15] <wantkitteh> lol, I’d noticed we have two tak-ee-ons ;)
[20:22:30] <wantkitteh> saved the drone piece, see what you think
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