#editorial | Logs for 2015-04-10
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[20:22:30] <wantkitteh> saved the drone piece, see what you think
[20:21:15] <wantkitteh> lol, I’d noticed we have two tak-ee-ons ;)
[20:01:13] <mrcoolbp> = (
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[20:00:05] <mrcoolbp> = )
[20:00:02] <mrcoolbp> ^not to be confused with takyon
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[19:59:15] <mrcoolbp> you have to remember, editing is a thankless job (most of the time). If the Story that we run is perfect, the submitter will get (most of?) the credit. If it’s “wrong” or “bad”, we get the flack = )
[19:57:17] <mrcoolbp> it’s tough to balance “editing” and improving a submission, without changing what the submission is = )
[19:56:53] <mrcoolbp> I’m open to suggestions on how else to handle it
[19:55:31] <mrcoolbp> some of this stuff we have to make up as we go along
[19:55:08] * mrcoolbp shrugs
[19:54:16] <mrcoolbp> I think that’s enough to denote that we are adding something
[19:54:06] <mrcoolbp> “We also found coverage over at XXX. It says BLAH BLAH. From the $NEWSOURCE: <quote>”
[19:53:27] <wantkitteh> Ok, that’s totally doable
[19:53:19] <mrcoolbp> we can add our own stuff below his sub
[19:53:10] <mrcoolbp> totally
[19:53:07] <wantkitteh> double-source it?
[19:52:57] <mrcoolbp> personally how I would handle this is take one good quote from his source
[19:52:47] <wantkitteh> yes
[19:52:40] <mrcoolbp> so he didn’t include a long writeup, mostly just a quote right?
[19:51:58] <mrcoolbp> well we don’t want to change what the author (submitter) intended. Let’s take a look
[19:50:58] <wantkitteh> the submitted source isn’t great, but the engadget article that source appears to have got a lot of it’s information from is rather better - is it okay to change sources in that situation?
[19:50:06] <wantkitteh> got a question about sources, I’m looking at the drone pilot arrested one at the moment
[19:49:22] <mrcoolbp> k
[19:49:19] <wantkitteh> I’ll check that in a minute
[19:44:34] <mrcoolbp> so it could read: “That means about 144 million Americans, more than the population of Russia, skipped out.”
[19:43:34] <mrcoolbp> we try to avoid the “ -- “ where possible
[19:43:15] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: On the obama story, I think commas would be better than the double -- --
[19:42:01] <wantkitteh> rawr
[19:41:52] <mrcoolbp> = )
[19:41:44] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: with the title case in order, I think the story is technically good
[19:32:32] <wantkitteh> not sure why, I’m suddenly setting safari content process crashes on the dev site, I thought I’d put everything back, missed that ;)
[19:31:50] <wantkitteh> ah, that’s what that Safari crash did
[19:31:27] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: look at the title
[19:30:03] <wantkitteh> wondered why I hadn’t seen him, but given his circumstances I not surprised
[19:29:54] * mrcoolbp looks at the ebook story
[19:29:41] <mrcoolbp> yeah he mentioned that he had to take a few days off, and if I could poke in and help if possible
[19:29:34] <wantkitteh> did you set it to display?
[19:29:12] <mrcoolbp> okay, I see the block now
[19:28:44] <wantkitteh> janrinok asked me to set them back and keep them together so he could find them easily, he’s kinda my official trainer
[19:28:25] <mrcoolbp> and “display” it
[19:28:18] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: set the story to go out 5 minutes ago
[19:27:35] <wantkitteh> now I think about it, that Obama mandatory voting one wasn’t particularly easy, the submission was factually incorrect… kinda
[19:26:37] <wantkitteh> cool - saved, see what you think
[19:25:09] <mrcoolbp> well I’m available for the next 2 hours or so
[19:24:54] <mrcoolbp> yay
[19:24:16] <wantkitteh> Now dev is working again, I’ll actually have something constructive to do whiel I”m contracting ;)
[19:23:51] <mrcoolbp> don’t forget to remove any “For Training” or “Delete this line” stuff
[19:23:20] <mrcoolbp> cool
[19:23:14] <wantkitteh> I did two easy ones already ;)
[19:22:55] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: good thinking, but that’s a particularly odd one
[19:22:24] <wantkitteh> don’t want to go around cherry-picking the easy ones ;)
[19:22:10] <wantkitteh> I deliberately didn’t chose it, just the next one in the list
[19:21:43] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: the ebook-covers article? Interesting choice
[19:05:15] <mrcoolbp> yeah, that works, but like I said, we get highlighted and often hear a noise if you mention our names
[19:03:59] <wantkitteh> I asked about that in here yesterday before stuff happened, but no-one answered, thought I’d try staff
[19:03:20] <wantkitteh> cool
[19:03:02] <mrcoolbp> wantkitteh: this is a better channel for editor stuff anyways
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[00:22:04] <takyon> it's a facade
[00:21:26] <mrcoolbp> plus they sound “sciency”
[00:21:17] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I know that their feed in #rss-bot had some nuggets in it yesterday, s’why I used ‘em
[00:20:40] <takyon> I don't like phys.org because they do a lot of copy+paste
[00:20:29] <takyon> for even this TV5Monde attack article
[00:20:26] <mrcoolbp> they are on a roll lately = )
[00:20:11] <takyon> jesus what is up with phys.org as a source
[00:20:07] <mrcoolbp> which is fine
[00:20:03] <mrcoolbp> we are all hesitant to do it
[00:19:40] <takyon> understood
[00:19:16] <mrcoolbp> takyon: deleting (rejecting) old stories is important. I try to confirm with at least one other editor before I do so. If we don’t, it looks like there are “plenty” of stories
[00:19:15] <mrcoolbp> heh
[00:19:10] <takyon> goodbye sweet gewg_
[00:18:17] <mrcoolbp> takyon: “delete” it
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[00:08:37] <takyon> if it had been from april I would have said yes, now I say kill
[00:08:23] <mrcoolbp> it was iffy-at-best methinks
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[00:08:10] <mrcoolbp> NotSanguine: ^
[00:08:04] <mrcoolbp> I vote reject
[00:06:16] <takyon> Feb2old
[00:06:03] <takyon> it's a little old
[00:05:04] * takyon reads it
[00:04:53] <mrcoolbp> takyon: question was more “do we even run it?”
[00:04:37] <takyon> well the U.S. midnight slots are taken, so we ought to push it to Saturday
[00:04:10] <RobotHouse> ^ 0304SN Submission by gewg_: Songs By Prince, Eminem, Metallica Named In CIA Torture Report
[00:04:09] <mrcoolbp> https://soylentnews.org
[00:03:58] <takyon> I wasn't around to see what happened to it
[00:03:56] <mrcoolbp> ?
[00:03:49] <takyon> is it kill
[00:03:35] <mrcoolbp> NotSanguine/takyon: what did we decide about the Torture-Music story? We could post for the weekend...
[00:02:22] <mrcoolbp> .unvoice chromas cause he’s making me look bad
[00:01:26] <chromas> you made a bun