#editorial | Logs for 2015-03-23

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[00:29:46] <mrcoolbp> CoolHand: you around ?
[00:30:04] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient/Azrael: you around?
[00:39:34] * mrcoolbp is going to work on the Vaccination story
[01:05:33] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: Anything I can do to help?
[01:06:35] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: hmm, I think an excercise in writing some submissions would give you a good view into the editing job = )
[01:07:48] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: http://logs.sylnt.us
[01:07:50] <NetCraft> ^ 03#rss-bot | Logs for 2015-03-22
[01:07:52] <mrcoolbp> for ideas
[01:08:07] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: Interesting.. I think there is one in dev that somebody said was "almost perfect" about Disney
[01:10:19] * mrcoolbp is tackling a beast of a submission
[01:19:35] <cmn32480> two subs tossed in mrcoolbp
[01:20:11] <mrcoolbp> yay
[01:20:26] * mrcoolbp might be done with this one in a few
[01:24:04] <mrcoolbp> thanks cmn32480
[01:24:15] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: ferferfergkjleghekghe
[01:24:21] <mrcoolbp> agreed
[01:24:23] <mrcoolbp> I concur
[01:24:44] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient, queue is running dry, got one or two more in ya?
[01:25:06] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: you mean submissions or story queue?
[01:25:08] * mrcoolbp is working on the vaccine one that no one wanted to touch. I'll likely be flamed for it. Should be fun = )
[01:25:29] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: either, but at this point there's a few submissions, a story or two for the queue would be great
[01:25:45] <Subsentient> sure thing, let me see what I can dig up.
[01:25:53] <mrcoolbp> nice
[01:25:55] * Subsentient looks in the queue
[01:26:03] <mrcoolbp> yay teamwork
[01:26:19] <mrcoolbp> I have juggs silently editing a story or two as well
[01:26:23] * mrcoolbp cracks ye olde whip
[01:26:45] <juggs> yah, should move that convo in here
[01:27:01] <juggs> I'm fettling the NJ Cops story
[01:30:48] <cmn32480> I'm writing as fast as I can between expense reports.... please stop the beatings.... my morale will improve I swear!
[01:31:39] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: you know you like it
[01:31:48] <mrcoolbp> thanks everyone
[01:32:04] <mrcoolbp> janrinok will awake with much less stress knowing we all jumped in to help out
[01:32:52] <cmn32480> if only you were a hot blonde...
[01:32:55] <cmn32480> or brunette
[01:32:58] <cmn32480> or readhead
[01:36:54] <juggs> mrcoolbp, OK I ~think~ that one is done https://soylentnews.org I queued it for 05:49 UTC. Please shout at me if I eff'd something up in it, not that I changed much - think I got a lucky dip with that one, didn't seem to need much editing at all
[01:36:55] <NetCraft> ^ 03I can't!
[01:37:10] <mrcoolbp> juggs: lemme look
[01:37:30] * juggs goes for a smoke
[01:37:37] <mrcoolbp> juggs: queueing is right, enjoy the smoke
[01:46:17] <juggs> You know - that "Author" field has always irked me a little. It's always seemed a little odd to me that it is the editor's nick that gets plonked there rather than the original submitter. That's probably just me though :)
[01:52:34] <mrcoolbp> juggs: well agree and disagree
[01:52:52] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I dare you to compare the original submission and the story I'm about to post
[01:54:46] * mrcoolbp clicks "save"
[01:54:55] <mrcoolbp> brb 5 min
[01:56:37] <juggs> OK - on the "Stories" page, what is the difference between a story with a salmon background vs. one with a yellow background? (salmon may actually be red, my monitor has seen better days and is kinda washed out).
[02:00:59] <juggs> That was a notable rework :)
[02:02:33] <mrcoolbp> juggs: yah
[02:02:37] <mrcoolbp> sec
[02:03:09] <mrcoolbp> juggs: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:03:10] <NetCraft> " 03Wiki: Editing Process
[02:03:18] * mrcoolbp made some graphics
[02:03:41] <mrcoolbp> juggs: also this: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[02:03:42] <NetCraft> " 03Wiki: Editing Process
[02:05:47] <juggs> gfx are great. 10 seconds squinting at the thumbnail annotations there and now I know. Probably would have been quicker had I clicked on the thumbnail, but I guess I'm a bit of a masochist
[02:06:17] <mrcoolbp> yeah, clicking on the thumbnail, then the whole image is much better, but good to know you are a masochist
[02:06:35] <mrcoolbp> okay, let's do another story
[02:06:41] * mrcoolbp hopes this one will be easier
[02:07:11] <juggs> I'm contemplating clicking on chromas' sub, but I am afraid of goat.se knowing him!
[02:07:27] <mrcoolbp> aye, tis a solid possiblility
[02:07:59] <mrcoolbp> juggs, cmn32480, subsentient, let's vote on the 3d-printed "frozen" castle story
[02:08:10] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: I vote to delete.
[02:08:24] <mrcoolbp> I'll tiebreak
[02:08:44] * juggs goes to read the linked article
[02:09:09] <Subsentient> Just because it's 3D printed doesn't make it interesting. You could 3D print a rubber dog turd too.
[02:09:28] * mrcoolbp reserves comment till the voting is over
[02:10:02] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Yknow, a good part of the reason I joined editor team was to be the 'quality control' guy :^3
[02:10:22] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: yeah, rejecting a story is something no one wants to do
[02:11:11] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: Well, if you submit an article that's just a disgusting poem about your itchy balls, I'm going to delete it ^^
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: from the original slashcode FAQ (and included in our own):
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> Why didn't you post my story?
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> This is a tough one.
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> We get many submissions every day. Our editors constantly go through these submissions, and try to select the most interesting, timely, and relevant items to post. There are probably as many reasons for stories to get rejected as there are stories, but here are some of the more common ones:
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> Badly worded or incorrect submissions
[02:11:23] <mrcoolbp> Broken or missing URLs
[02:11:24] <mrcoolbp> Confusing or hysterical sounding writeup
[02:11:24] <mrcoolbp> It might be an old story
[02:11:25] <mrcoolbp> It might just be a busy day and we've already posted enough stories
[02:11:25] <mrcoolbp> Someone already submitted your story
[02:11:26] <mrcoolbp> Your story just might not be interesting
[02:12:10] * chromas submits a 3d-printed dog turd
[02:12:11] <mrcoolbp> so whether or not it was rejected can depend on the day, or our mood basically = )
[02:12:27] * mrcoolbp beats chromas with a 3d printed club
[02:12:44] * mrcoolbp then deletes submission
[02:13:16] <mrcoolbp> okay, cmn32480 isn't going to weigh in, juggs, we patiently await your vote
[02:13:41] * mrcoolbp tries to edit another story
[02:14:47] <cmn32480> sorry reading it now
[02:14:54] <mrcoolbp> I think I vote to delete TLA's "Spring Eqinox/Supermoon Eclipse Timelapse" too
[02:15:02] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: nah, take your time
[02:15:02] <cmn32480> still working on expenses.... so far the comany owes me about $5k
[02:15:10] <mrcoolbp> nice that!
[02:16:01] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: re: TLA's video - It's cool that it's his video , but it's kinda potato-y no?
[02:16:05] <cmn32480> too bad Amex want's their $$
[02:16:12] <mrcoolbp> yeah, screw them
[02:16:25] <cmn32480> that didn't take long to read
[02:16:36] <mrcoolbp> vote or die
[02:16:46] <mrcoolbp> that was a little dramatic sorry
[02:16:55] <cmn32480> it's cool... but there is nothing to discuss
[02:17:22] <cmn32480> I'd drop it unless we are in really dire need of stuff for the queue
[02:17:32] * mrcoolbp looks towards Subsentients submission now
[02:17:55] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: good answer
[02:17:58] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: sec
[02:18:26] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: since you can't see the queue, we have only 3 other stories beyond whats been posted
[02:18:41] <mrcoolbp> we are spacing them longer than usual due to the editor drought
[02:18:58] <mrcoolbp> so if that affects your decision, you have the info to vote now
[02:19:08] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: you are incorrect sir
[02:19:12] <mrcoolbp> ?
[02:19:44] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: I'm talking about the STORY queue, stuff that will juggs and I already posted and are awaiting "deployment"
[02:19:54] <cmn32480> the link in the upper right hand corner that tells us how many stories are in the submission queue waiting to be edited shows us the queue, and the original pre-edited submissions
[02:20:19] <cmn32480> we can't READ the story queue, but we can see the headlines
[02:20:45] <mrcoolbp> what page are you referring to
[02:20:52] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I looked at TLA's sub - but came away thinking "what's the point being made?". But I also came away thinking I don't know enough about the subject at hand, particularly this.. "not a single image using a projection of any sort". I have absolutely no idea what a "projection" is in this context so I feel I can't dismiss it on the basis that I am ignorant of the subject matter and the question posed.
[02:21:34] <mrcoolbp> juggs: a projection in this case is when they use a lense to "read" the image and reproject it onto something, used only for solar events
[02:21:50] <mrcoolbp> juggs: however, I feel the other imagery that he mentions are much more interesting
[02:21:52] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: link?
[02:22:46] <juggs> Subsentient, link is hard to give as it is all enclosed in admin.pl.
[02:22:46] <mrcoolbp> the "projection devices" he describes/is using are cool to have in person because they are relatively cheap, but the imagery that he "pushes aside" are far more interesting from our laymen perspective
[02:23:02] <mrcoolbp> juggs: subsentient is an editor, cmn is not
[02:23:23] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: what page/link are you looking at?
[02:23:30] <juggs> Subsentient, do you have a Stories and 8 Submissions links at the top of the page when logged in?
[02:23:57] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: https://soylentnews.org
[02:23:59] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Submissions
[02:24:13] <Subsentient> juggs: yeh
[02:24:16] <Subsentient> whhy
[02:24:23] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: count the stories in that list
[02:24:26] <mrcoolbp> that's 8
[02:24:35] <mrcoolbp> that's how many are in the "Submission queue"
[02:25:03] <cmn32480> 8 submissions (pre-edit) 3 pending (waiting for their time to display on the main page
[02:25:07] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: the "story queue" as I call it are stories that are in the "stories list" but have not yet been released
[02:25:12] <mrcoolbp> oh
[02:25:13] <mrcoolbp> sec
[02:25:30] <juggs> Stories - shows the subs due to go out and their state of edittedness (and past stories). The Subs link shows new Subs awaiting editing.
[02:25:42] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: where do you see "3 pending" ?
[02:25:49] <juggs> It's somewhat labyrinthine.
[02:26:06] <mrcoolbp> aye
[02:26:13] <chromas> this shows three Pending http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:14] <NetCraft> ^* 03SoylentNews Submissions ( http://soylentnews.org )
[02:26:23] <chromas> oh you just linked it
[02:26:37] <mrcoolbp> omg where
[02:26:46] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: I email you a screenshot
[02:26:48] * mrcoolbp is a moron
[02:27:06] <juggs> No - I see no Pending on there
[02:28:04] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: rofl, our "supremem" admin privs hides that!
[02:28:13] <cmn32480> on my honor as an Eagle Scout
[02:28:33] <mrcoolbp> cmn that's hilarious, I rememeber pestering them to implement that!
[02:28:46] <mrcoolbp> I so rarely view that page as AC
[02:28:53] <juggs> Ye gads
[02:28:57] <cmn32480> mrcoolbp: that is hilarious
[02:29:12] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480, juggs: I belive you still have yet to vote on the matter at hand
[02:29:25] <juggs> mrcoolbp, which is the matter at hand
[02:29:29] <cmn32480> I see it logged in or not. I guess I'm not special enough to have info like that hidden from me
[02:29:58] <mrcoolbp> juggs: accept/reject 3d-print castle articvle
[02:30:03] <juggs> mrcoolbp, The ice castle thing - delete.
[02:30:12] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: vote
[02:30:43] <juggs> woulda been cool if they were 3d printing an ice sculpture though
[02:30:47] <mrcoolbp> lol
[02:30:56] <cmn32480> we are short on stories. The 3D printed Frozen castle has a little bit of a cool factor. If we set it to run in the wee hours of the morning Eastern Time, maybe... but I think it will only garner ridicule of the editors and our story choices.
[02:30:59] <cmn32480> drop it
[02:31:14] * mrcoolbp deletes
[02:31:35] <mrcoolbp> okay, subsentient, juggs, cmn32480: vote on the TLA eclipse video article
[02:32:17] * juggs abstains on the TLA eclipse video article vote. Insufficient subject knowledge.
[02:32:52] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: The article quality is very poor but the subject is mildly interesting. Think it can be saved?
[02:33:37] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: summary quality is easy, I agree the "idea" of the article is interesting, but disagree that the video he posted is interesting
[02:33:43] <mrcoolbp> it's almost interesting
[02:33:57] <chromas> Add some shaky cam and explosions
[02:33:59] <cmn32480> it needs work
[02:34:01] <mrcoolbp> If I were to post it, I would include links to ^
[02:34:08] <mrcoolbp> explosions!
[02:34:23] <mrcoolbp> no I would include links to actually cool eclipse videos
[02:34:48] <cmn32480> any way we can ask him to flesh it out some more and resubmit?
[02:35:18] <cmn32480> like the comment about projections - some info there
[02:35:31] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: like I said, it's not the writing that irks me, the video is just short of interesting
[02:35:57] <mrcoolbp> without watching the video here's the first result on google:
[02:35:58] <mrcoolbp> https://www.google.com
[02:36:23] <mrcoolbp> dmna ads....
[02:36:29] <mrcoolbp> damn ads*
[02:36:42] <cmn32480> yeah... the topic is good, and obviously he put a bunch of work into it, but not the best foot forward for us
[02:37:26] * mrcoolbp votes to delete
[02:37:29] <cmn32480> there were some very nice eclipse videos that showed on the side of his on Youtube
[02:37:45] <mrcoolbp> I feel bad because it's his video
[02:38:22] * mrcoolbp moves on to Subsentients submission
[02:38:23] <cmn32480> perhaps a merged submission?
[02:38:48] <cmn32480> what if I put something together for the Eclipse, and we can add his to the bottom.
[02:41:01] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: I'm down for that merge
[02:41:41] <cmn32480> saves his pride and we get some interesting content
[02:42:06] <mrcoolbp> I like it
[02:42:20] * mrcoolbp nominates cmn32480 to submit = )
[02:42:34] <mrcoolbp> good god Subsentient WTF am I looking at
[02:43:05] <cmn32480> a thankless job is never done...
[02:43:18] <mrcoolbp> thanks buddy
[02:43:26] <cmn32480> I'll get on it as soon as I finish this expense report
[02:43:30] <mrcoolbp> aye
[02:43:51] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I'm looking at chromas's submission now
[02:45:06] * juggs wishes he had a $5K monthly expense tab
[02:45:54] <mrcoolbp> juggs: don't even think about it...
[02:46:01] <mrcoolbp> = )
[02:48:15] <juggs> Heh, we need to network and comingle with others in the meta-space to best exploit or synergistic opportunities. Gimme a no limits credit card damn it!
[02:48:24] <juggs> :D
[02:49:19] <mrcoolbp> juggs I will assasinate you
[02:49:29] <cmn32480> juggs: all my 5k means is that I have spent so much time on the road that I have racked up 5k in airline, hotel and restaurant bills
[02:49:31] * juggs goes to check into low rent motel for a night and tries using SN credit card.... REFUSED INSUFFICIENT FUNDS xD
[02:49:50] <mrcoolbp> juggs: yeah the card we gave you was a dummy
[02:50:09] <cmn32480> or was that the guy you gave it to?
[02:50:43] <cmn32480> I'm sorry, I'm new here, I shoul;dn't take pot shots...
[02:50:55] <cmn32480> nope... I really should
[02:50:57] * mrcoolbp posts chromas's old mac, new internet story
[02:51:20] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: it's okay, he's just the CEO of SN = )
[02:51:29] <mrcoolbp> or president or something
[02:51:34] <cmn32480> what's he gonna do? fire me?
[02:52:25] <cmn32480> "under no circumstances should a person able to get elected to an office be allowed to hold it"
[02:52:29] <juggs> cmn32480, yep, I know - I've done the travelling business rep thing before. Both on my own CC and in one lucky job I got a 2K GBP "float" which was nice.
[02:52:46] <cmn32480> Douglas Adams, I believe
[02:53:07] <juggs> cmn32480, Peter principle. These buggers put me somewhere I could do no harm
[02:53:23] <cmn32480> I'm on the technical side, (shocking, right?)
[02:53:46] <mrcoolbp> juggs: meh, you could prolly still fire him, even though he's not "officially" staff or whatever. I'll allow it.
[02:53:49] <juggs> I was also on the tech side at the time, just travelling to clients
[02:53:58] <cmn32480> we do all our own wireless work from the site surveys to pulling cable, installatina dn config
[02:54:34] <cmn32480> in the end
[02:54:46] <cmn32480> all it means is that I have another night in some hotel away from the wife adn kids
[02:55:01] <cmn32480> but, it pays the bills
[02:55:08] * juggs files police report for an assassination attempt. Knowing this country they'd probably take it seriously too :(
[02:55:21] <juggs> threat*
[02:55:49] <mrcoolbp> juggs: yah, can't mess 'round with that herer
[02:56:08] <mrcoolbp> okay, well I'm spent on the editing, thanks everyone for the rally-effort
[02:56:22] <mrcoolbp> I can maybe do one more...
[02:56:33] <juggs> I'll do one more
[02:56:38] * mrcoolbp isn't touching subsentients
[02:56:41] * juggs stops gassing
[02:56:57] <mrcoolbp> juggs: you can pick first
[02:57:27] <cmn32480> I'll get the Eclipse story in before I go to bed
[02:57:29] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: you can edit one too if you want, just resubmit to dev and edit there, I'll repost
[02:57:34] <mrcoolbp> or do that
[02:57:39] * mrcoolbp forgot
[02:57:49] * mrcoolbp worked like 26 hours this weekend
[02:57:55] <mrcoolbp> like sat-sun alone
[02:58:01] <cmn32480> np. it has been a long day
[02:58:08] <mrcoolbp> not counting SN...
[02:58:22] <juggs> OK - I'll do cmn32480's boot camp one. That looks not so hard
[02:58:57] <cmn32480> heh... the problem wiht me editing on dev is that most of what is left in the queue has my name on it already
[03:00:08] <juggs> I have no idea why a non-editor (me) is editing a mostly trained editor's submission. Must be the weekend :D
[03:00:20] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: I'll be around for at least another hour, just ping me here when done, I'll repost
[03:00:28] <mrcoolbp> and I'll take all the credit!
[03:00:31] <mrcoolbp> mwahahaha
[03:00:39] <mrcoolbp> juggs: tis
[03:00:54] <mrcoolbp> juggs: you are awesome
[03:01:08] <cmn32480> frightening thing these weekends are
[03:01:24] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: oh QA person, would you 2nd ed our most recent story posts?
[03:01:34] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: concur
[03:02:08] <mrcoolbp> subsentient: for a laugh, click "submission" on the editing page for my france vaccination story
[03:02:16] <mrcoolbp> slightly different = )
[03:02:52] <mrcoolbp> oh crap, someone already 2nd-ed all the stories
[03:03:00] * mrcoolbp goes to check whodunnit
[03:03:17] <mrcoolbp> LaminatorX is silently checking us
[03:03:20] * mrcoolbp runs and hides
[03:05:27] <mrcoolbp> subsentient: thought they are "green" feel free to re-check
[03:08:08] <cmn32480> he is silently checking... but not logged in to IRC. Is that fair?
[03:08:37] <cmn32480> Kinda like my Dad checking to see when I got home last night.
[03:08:40] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: he's the editorial boss, he makes the rules
[03:08:47] <mrcoolbp> = )
[03:10:04] <cmn32480> Strange that none of us got the cold feeling of a ghost in the room
[03:10:08] * juggs finds both LamX and janrinok scary in their attention to detail and seriousness when it comes to the editing process. We need these guys we really really do, they don't get enough credit because much of what they do is unseen, but I still find them scary in a way :D
[03:10:26] <mrcoolbp> he's a well-spoken ande intelligent person suited to the role. I just wish to expand his team. the job of an editor is unending and equally rewarding-yet-strenuous
[03:10:36] <mrcoolbp> juggs: yup.
[03:11:16] <mrcoolbp> everytime lamx speaks, I just grab some chips and enjoy. He tickles the arm-hairs
[03:11:42] * juggs jiggles on mrcoolbp's arm hairs
[03:11:50] <mrcoolbp> janrinok is a machine, but he's in need of oil (i.e. a freaking break)
[03:12:00] <juggs> aye
[03:12:28] <mrcoolbp> juggs: actually "hearing" your voice is equally tantalizing (don't worry I'm happily married and straight)
[03:12:40] <mrcoolbp> juggs' voice is captivating
[03:15:12] <mrcoolbp> holy crap-balls:
[03:15:19] <mrcoolbp> edited stories:
[03:15:20] <mrcoolbp> 1602 janrinok
[03:15:20] <mrcoolbp> 1445 LaminatorX
[03:15:28] <mrcoolbp> that's a lot
[03:15:32] <mrcoolbp> https://soylentnews.org
[03:15:33] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews: Hall of Fame
[03:17:22] * mrcoolbp has most commented story but it doesn't count
[03:18:02] <cmn32480> Just submitted the eclipse story
[03:19:18] <juggs> Sooo many people have mentioned my voice over the years. I have no idea what the fascination is. I have a stammer / stutter when stressed and avoid using hard syllables or use delays / vowel elongations in those scenarios to work around that. When I listen to my own recorded voice I feel really uncomfortable. from the I-just-don't-get-it dept.
[03:19:34] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: lemme look
[03:20:01] <mrcoolbp> juggs: meh, you sound like a british morga freeman
[03:20:10] <cmn32480> nothing fantabulous, but it shoudl give is the ability to merge the TLA story in
[03:20:13] <mrcoolbp> Morgan Freeman*
[03:20:24] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: k
[03:20:58] <juggs> LOL - too many years of cigs n beer then.
[03:21:03] <cmn32480> I did link to Youtube for the full length videos (3 hours and change)
[03:21:19] <cmn32480> mmmmmm beer++
[03:23:47] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: nice work
[03:24:10] * mrcoolbp may have a drink to celebrate this night of extreme teamwork
[03:24:26] <cmn32480> glad it gives us what we are looking for
[03:24:38] <juggs> mrcoolbp, brings a new revenue idea.... SNjuggspods or SNipples - SN stories as a podcast voiced by juggs. Get the previous 24hrs of stories narrated to your device for playing out on your commute to work. :D
[03:24:47] <cmn32480> and on that note, I have to be up in 5 hours for work.
[03:25:04] <juggs> night cmn32480
[03:25:37] <mrcoolbp> juggs: I was working with Dopefish and Blackmoore on a podcast idea. Immediately following our skype call I thought of featuring you, so don't freaking tempt me sir.
[03:25:52] <mrcoolbp> cmn32480: Go to bed!
[03:26:02] <cmn32480> night gentlemen. A pleasure working wiht you
[03:26:11] <mrcoolbp> goodnight, thanks for the help! Pleasure was ours
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[03:30:21] <juggs> mrcoolbp, not quite sure what you would feature me about. Hi, I dick around in IRC and make verbose comments that lead everyone to just wish I would shut up. Not sure where we go with that really.
[03:30:44] <mrcoolbp> lol, just need'a give ya some stuffs to talk 'bout
[03:31:21] <mrcoolbp> "So juggs, what was it like being handed the reigns to SN?"
[03:32:03] <mrcoolbp> "Tell us, did you enjoy being crowned king whilst SN was drownining in a downward spiral of econmomic dissalusionment" (is that word?)
[03:35:05] <juggs> 1. "Well at the time I was afk having a smoke. Came back to a balloon from mrcoolbp castigating me to pay attention when being promoted as I recall. I read up and said "Yes", some voting happened and there I was, reins in hand."
[03:35:14] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: 3 more articles in need of second-check in the queue
[03:35:32] <mrcoolbp> juggs: sounds familiar
[03:37:22] * mrcoolbp has a celabratory drink
[03:37:36] <mrcoolbp> seriously, thanks juggs et. al. for the help with the queue
[03:37:50] <mrcoolbp> I would have filled it myself, but the results would have been lack-luster
[03:39:51] <juggs> Although the reins in hand are all attached to free agents so there is no control at all. There are in fact no reins at all. Suddenly the Bazaar and the Cathedral comes into focus for some reason.
[03:40:20] <mrcoolbp> so deep.
[03:42:05] <juggs> pft
[03:42:11] <juggs> https://soylentnews.org
[03:42:13] <NetCraft> ^ 03I can't!
[03:42:32] <juggs> sanity check please mrcoolbp
[03:42:39] <juggs> ^
[03:44:19] <juggs> I queued it 2hrs after the previous as that seemed to be the cadence.
[03:45:37] <mrcoolbp> sec
[03:48:10] <juggs> NetCraft makes me chuckle with its "I can't!" - I guess it is returning that in getting a forbidden (50x) response.
[03:48:20] <mrcoolbp> juggs: "The Register Apple has dropped" -> "The Register, Apple has dropped"
[03:49:36] <mrcoolbp> juggs that's all I see, otherwise good
[03:56:04] <juggs> looks like Subsentient pounced in the mean time, I no longer see "The Register Apple has dropped"
[03:56:16] <juggs> mrcoolbp, ^
[03:56:56] <mrcoolbp> lol
[03:56:57] <Subsentient> juggs: BEHOLD, MY RODENTLY GLORY.
[03:57:01] <mrcoolbp> hah
[03:57:18] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient stealing my proofreadin' glory
[03:57:28] * mrcoolbp fires Subsentient
[03:57:32] * mrcoolbp looks around
[03:57:36] <juggs> o.O
[03:57:38] * Subsentient ices mrcoolbp
[03:57:38] * mrcoolbp Re-hires subsentient
[03:57:47] * Subsentient defrosts mrcoolbp
[03:57:50] <mrcoolbp> nice
[03:57:51] * juggs overrules mrcoolbp
[03:57:56] <mrcoolbp> too late
[03:58:22] * mrcoolbp was getting chilly
[03:58:59] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: get to work: http://soylentnews.org
[03:59:01] <NetCraft> ^ 03I can't!
[03:59:02] * mrcoolbp hides
[04:01:07] <juggs> fuck me. what's the point of being CEO unless you get to throw chairs around, call everyone BOITCHES and fire / hire people at will?? What is the world coming to when a mere Treasurer can usurp that power? Insanity.
[04:01:31] * juggs has a pointless tantrum and jumps up and down shouting
[04:02:32] * mrcoolbp lets juggs have his moment
[04:02:52] * mrcoolbp is scared of his boss
[04:04:43] * juggs sweats profusely under the stage lights then throws a chair, then shouts something incoherent about developers into the microphone. Did Ballmer seed the death metal scene?
[04:05:28] * mrcoolbp backs away slowly
[04:07:15] <juggs> ruck rucj alieantaion, ruck ruck developers, ruck rcuk WAAAAAAAAA (double kick drums at 120 bpm),
[04:07:39] <mrcoolbp> (blast beats*
[04:12:55] <juggs> mrcoolbp, this is why UKites are no longer allowed firearms - living on an island rather than a continent leads to overcrowding and abrasion.
[04:13:43] <mrcoolbp> juggs: we shouldn't really be allowed them either, but they are fun sometimes
[04:17:54] <juggs> I disagree. A gun is just a tool. Regulate / criminalise the use thereof not the possession for lawful purpose.
[04:19:02] <mrcoolbp> juggs: you can come visit, we have a firing range with automatic weapons for rent (no pre-reqs) 45 min from my house
[04:19:16] <mrcoolbp> all I did was flash my license
[04:20:40] <juggs> Guess what happened when the UK banned hand guns... London saw a decline in shootings and an incline in stabbings from knives. Not sure that's a win.
[04:20:50] <mrcoolbp> lol
[04:21:18] <mrcoolbp> juggs: no question that guns have more potential for damage, though I'm not arguing either side at this late hour
[04:21:36] <juggs> I'm sure mumsnet were happy as they "felt" safer and "something" was being done.
[04:23:47] <mrcoolbp> mumsnet, is that a colloquialism?
[04:23:57] <juggs> mrcoolbp, I am not arguing one side or the other either as the debate is geographically influenced too.
[04:24:10] <mrcoolbp> let's not bring geography into this
[04:24:19] * mrcoolbp is a geo majoy
[04:24:23] <mrcoolbp> major
[04:24:42] <juggs> http://www.mumsnet.com
[04:24:45] <NetCraft> ^ 03Product reviews, parenting tips and advice for parents | Mumsnet
[04:27:53] <juggs> I will leave you to come to your own conclusion about Mumsnet - but they seem to have sway in the UK lobby scene.
[04:29:11] * mrcoolbp has no desire to come to conclusions about UK sites at this late hour
[04:33:03] <juggs> "at this late hour" makes me think of Sabbat "Who are you that walks across the graves of giants at this late hour?". Sabbat: Dreamweaver I forget which track.
[04:33:54] * mrcoolbp is having an interesting convo in "#" with alberto
[04:35:51] <mrcoolbp> it's an unlogged channel if you are looking for it
[04:44:43] <juggs> I used to lurk in there, backlog reading OCD did me in
[04:45:05] <mrcoolbp> yeah, not sure I could lurk much but it was a fun convo
[04:45:49] * mrcoolbp feels good about today, though he worked hard, accomplishment is satisfying
[04:51:11] * mrcoolbp re-arranges the queue a little before heading to bed
[04:53:27] * juggs gratuitously jiggles for no reason
[05:07:37] <mrcoolbp> g'night juggs = )
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[18:44:23] <janrinok> hi Bytram
[18:44:35] <Bytram> hiya!
[18:44:41] <Bytram> enjoy your weekend?
[18:44:47] <janrinok> how's things?
[18:45:08] <Bytram> resting up from being away most of the weekend
[18:45:19] <janrinok> had a good time?
[18:45:20] <Bytram> slept about 14 hours last night
[18:45:50] <Bytram> hmmm, fun is not really the word.
[18:46:18] <janrinok> OK, I don't know where you've been, but everything OK?
[18:46:22] <Bytram> it was conference that, umm, invited deep introspection and reflection, coupled with other people sharing their experiences doing so.
[18:46:40] <Bytram> kind cryptic, sorry.
[18:46:46] <Bytram> kind of cryptic, sorry.
[18:46:51] <janrinok> np - it's your life
[18:47:05] <Bytram> I am very much glad I went, that's for sure!
[18:47:19] <Bytram> do it each year -- I call it a 'neck up check-up'
[18:47:21] <janrinok> that's all that matters then. Welcome back anyway!
[18:47:27] <Bytram> thanks
[18:47:33] <Bytram> and you? how was your w/e?
[18:48:54] <janrinok> busy on here until Sunday morning, when I stopped posting. Medical appointments today, and an overnight stay in hospital due in early April. Nothing serious (we hope ;)) but it's keeping me occupied.
[18:49:19] <Bytram> {{{ janrinok }}}
[18:49:24] <Bytram> hope all works out well!
[18:49:40] <janrinok> I'm sure it will, nothing to get too concerned about
[18:49:50] <Bytram> nod nod
[18:50:20] <janrinok> I'm just 2nd ed'ing your latest 3 stories
[18:50:34] <Bytram> much obliged!
[18:51:02] <janrinok> and I to you - that's 3 stories less for me to look for :)
[18:51:07] * Bytram ws looking through #rss-bot for a likely looking story submit; not really into it, though.
[18:51:45] <Bytram> I pushed out, what, 4 stories yesterday and thought I'd take a stab at a few more today.
[18:51:46] <janrinok> Mondays tend not to be a good day for news releases until late on a US working day.
[18:51:52] <Bytram> yuppers
[18:52:24] <Bytram> btw, I put up a new poll, submitted by a Soylentil, but am unsure whether to retain or omit the last choice...
[18:52:32] <Bytram> it doesn't got live for another hour or so.
[18:52:37] <Bytram> s/got/go/
[18:52:52] <janrinok> like your story on Ancient Technology.
[18:52:54] * Bytram goes to find a link
[18:53:20] <Bytram> ahhha!
[18:53:20] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[18:53:21] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Poll | How often do registered SoylentNews users ...
[18:54:10] <Bytram> nothing *wrong* with the last choice, just unsure how much value it brings to it, and whether it would be better without it.
[18:54:52] <janrinok> personally, I'd leave it out but I can see what you are getting at
[18:55:12] <janrinok> I'm just an old stick-in-the-mud, grumpy old git
[18:55:34] <Bytram> I've crawled out of the mud, but I can still be grumpy, no?
[18:55:34] <Bytram> =)
[18:55:55] <janrinok> feel free - I cannot be allowed to monopolize grumpyness
[18:56:03] <Bytram> lol!
[18:56:18] <Bytram> now that I laughed, I guess you're now *it*
[18:56:19] <Bytram> =)
[18:56:25] <janrinok> lol
[18:57:04] <Bytram> the more I think about it, the more I want to pull that last choice. It really adds nothing that I can see, suggests concepts that are not terribly useful given the context, and well, it just doesn't fit in style-wise.
[18:57:16] <janrinok> any news on the new eds being given the 'go' by LamX?
[18:57:31] * Bytram has not heard anything.
[18:57:37] <janrinok> neither have I
[18:57:52] <Bytram> I don't even know if I am on the editorial mailing list...
[18:58:18] <Bytram> I only got this gig cause I suggested it would be easier for me to fix typos if they just let me at 'em directly, instead of having to rouse an editor and getting them to do it!
[18:58:36] <janrinok> I wondered if it had been mentioned on here, or whether you had heard/seen anyone being given the magic bits for access
[18:58:58] <Bytram> I was away all weekend, pretty much, so I've seen nothing.
[18:59:22] <janrinok> well you are 4th in the list of active eds!
[18:59:27] <Bytram> hmmm, how *do* I edit a poll?
[18:59:33] <janrinok> 42
[18:59:35] <Bytram> not bad for a part-timer!
[18:59:42] <Bytram> 6*7?
[19:00:02] <janrinok> the answer to your rhetorical question
[19:00:13] <Bytram> nod nod
[19:00:31] <Bytram> doh!
[19:00:35] <Bytram> on this page: https://soylentnews.org
[19:00:35] <NetCraft> ^ 03SoylentNews Poll
[19:00:40] <janrinok> lol
[19:00:46] <Bytram> I just need to click on the link "(edit)"
[19:01:01] <Bytram> that appears under each poll entry
[19:01:26] <janrinok> yep, that's the way they try to hide these things.....
[19:01:29] <Bytram> done.
[19:01:46] <Bytram> consistency.... what a concept!
[19:02:03] <janrinok> That TAILS story will require a lot of editing!
[19:02:12] * Bytram hadn't looked at it.
[19:02:26] <janrinok> best you don't then....
[19:03:06] <Bytram> fwiw, we've got stories queued up for the better part of a day.
[19:03:13] <janrinok> about 15 links and a huge list of updates
[19:03:32] * Bytram looks away and start whistling
[19:03:39] <janrinok> wise move
[19:03:46] <Bytram> heads I win, tails you lose?
[19:04:09] <janrinok> lets both back away slowly
[19:04:16] <Bytram> LOL!
[19:04:21] <Bytram> You can do it slowly...
[19:04:27] * Bytram steps it up to a full run
[19:04:47] <Bytram> YIKES!
[19:04:49] <janrinok> full run backwards - that would explain the headaches you keep getting
[19:04:51] * Bytram should *not* have looked!
[19:05:21] <janrinok> I think a headline, a few lines and a single link to the release page would suffice
[19:05:28] * Bytram should have looked at a reflection of it in a shield
[19:05:46] <Bytram> always leave them wanting more
[19:05:58] <Bytram> don't have to give them the whole shooting match in the first bite, right?
[19:07:23] <Bytram> I've got some things to get to afore the days is over...
[19:07:32] <Bytram> gonna sign off for a bit and maybe check in later
[19:07:38] <janrinok> laters
[19:07:45] <Bytram> good to see ya and hope you have a good rest-of-your-day!
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[19:07:55] <janrinok> thx - I'm trying to
[19:07:58] <Bytram|away> LOL!
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