#editorial | Logs for 2015-03-09

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[09:02:48] <janrinok> Anyone here wanting training to be an editor?
[10:01:49] <janrinok> Has anyone volunteered for training as an editor yet?
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[13:20:33] <janrinok> anyone arrived for editor training?
[13:45:14] <n1> i was just setting out the snacks and refreshments
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[13:56:54] <Bytram> anybody here?
[13:57:46] <Bytram> I'm processing a 3-submitter merge of the Solar Impulse-2 flight which took off at 03:12 03/09 and would like to drop it into the story queue asap
[13:58:11] <Bytram> so that it is somewhat timely with its first leg of its attempt to fly around the world on solar power.
[13:59:10] <Bytram> I don't like dfoing so without someone else in editorial agreeing, but I'll just go and do it and take the fall later, if needed.
[13:59:20] <Bytram> would appreciate any suggestions on how to handle in the future.
[14:00:37] <n1> one sec
[14:01:08] <Bytram> n1: oh, hi!
[14:02:15] <n1> looks good, are you done editing it?
[14:02:28] <Bytram> yes....
[14:02:35] <Bytram> each submitter had a different ';style'
[14:02:45] <Bytram> didn't feel up to trying to merge into a single
[14:02:50] <Bytram> cohesive story,
[14:03:00] <Bytram> so let each 'voice' speak for itself.
[14:03:27] <Bytram> so, unless you have any other ideas, I'm done with it.
[14:03:58] <Bytram> atm it starts to look like "tag soup" if you know what I mean?
[14:04:21] <n1> just going to change h3 tags to h4 and move anontechie's into extended copy
[14:04:29] <Bytram> n1++
[14:04:29] <Bender> karma - n1: 7
[14:04:33] <Bytram> excellent points!
[14:05:11] <Bytram> I'm gonna move the other stories down the queue to compensate
[14:07:41] <Bytram> n1: no hurry, but when you finish with the story, pls pm me.
[14:08:16] <n1> im done with it, only did changes i said
[14:08:26] <Bytram> nice
[14:08:28] <Bytram> pm
[14:30:07] <n1> will be back shortly
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[15:29:24] <janrinok> hi nick
[15:29:34] <nick> hey janrinok
[15:29:43] <janrinok> how's things
[15:31:22] * nick takes some snacks from the table set out for the new editors
[15:31:25] <nick> hungry ;)
[15:31:26] <nick> you@?
[15:31:28] <nick> -@
[15:31:35] <janrinok> ype
[15:31:38] <janrinok> yep
[15:31:47] <janrinok> 3 letters and I got them wrong!
[15:32:41] <nick> you got them right, just put them in an innovative order
[15:32:46] <janrinok> lol
[15:33:01] <janrinok> nick: are you sitting comforatably now?
[15:33:26] <nick> that sounds ominous
[15:33:38] <janrinok> well, I just want your opinion on something
[15:33:43] <nick> sure
[15:34:31] <janrinok> I'm thinking of drafting a story asking for previous or 'resting' editors to help by making some contribution. I know and will acknowledge that there are many pressures upon everyone.
[15:35:16] <janrinok> But, if we don't get support soon, the only alternative I (we?) have will be to stop work on a Friday and come back on a Monday morning. I'll run it by the other depts first of course
[15:35:56] <janrinok> I don't want _another_ weekend last the last 2 or 3. And I'm getting tired and run-down again. You also have a business to look after.
[15:36:11] <janrinok> any views?
[15:36:24] <nick> sounds reasonable
[15:36:43] <nick> draft the story and let me take a look?
[15:36:54] <nick> i'd try and keep it fairly short and sweet
[15:37:13] <janrinok> OK but I'll try to sound out other depts before I put it together
[15:38:26] <janrinok> S noticed it first - of course - and then yesterday the sore throat and coughs came back, always a sign that I need to rest a little.
[15:38:34] <nick> i will agree that we cant go on like this forever
[15:39:24] <janrinok> Asking for new volunteers is one thing - but it then takes a bit of effort to get them trained up and you have no idea what kind of contribution they will make once trained.
[15:40:04] <nick> yeah
[15:40:22] <nick> do we know what happened to blackmoore?
[15:40:56] <janrinok> I think he is busy personally, and still working on 'original material' but no idea what to expect and when.
[15:41:52] <janrinok> There are other eds who actually appear on here quite often or can be seen in the comments but don't do anything at present - I'm sure they are all busy in their professional and personal lives.
[15:43:56] <nick> no doubt
[15:45:19] <janrinok> Have you been out pulling cables / digging trenches / organising festivals today?
[15:45:27] <Bytram|afk> I gtg in a sec, but I can pitch in in the evenings
[15:45:44] <Bytram|afk> often, when I check in , I see the story queue is alreadytaken care of,
[15:45:50] <Bytram|afk> 2nd check if needed and leave
[15:45:51] <janrinok> Bytram|afk: thx but you are working elsewhere too - this is aimed at the 'resting' eds
[15:46:04] <Bytram|afk> if stories need to go out, I try and 'jump to it'
[15:46:08] <Bytram|afk> oh, ok.
[15:46:11] <Bytram|afk> fine then
[15:46:12] <Bytram|afk> gtg
[15:46:13] <janrinok> and its appreciated
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[15:46:21] <Bytram|away> janrinok++
[15:46:22] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 17
[15:46:22] <Bytram|away> janrinok++
[15:46:22] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 18
[15:46:22] <Bytram|away> janrinok++
[15:46:22] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 19
[15:46:23] <Bytram|away> janrinok++
[15:46:23] <Bytram|away> janrinok++
[15:46:23] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 20
[15:46:23] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 21
[15:46:26] <Bytram|away> =)
[15:46:28] <Bytram|away> n1++
[15:46:28] <Bender> karma - n1: 8
[15:46:29] <Bytram|away> n1++
[15:46:29] <Bender> karma - n1: 9
[15:46:29] <janrinok> lol
[15:46:29] <Bytram|away> n1++
[15:46:29] <Bender> karma - n1: 10
[15:46:30] <Bytram|away> n1++
[15:46:30] <Bender> karma - n1: 11
[15:46:32] <Bytram|away> n1++
[15:46:32] <Bender> karma - n1: 12
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[15:46:51] <janrinok> ah, one of the good guys
[15:53:53] <nick> was microwaving a curry
[15:54:49] <nick> this morning was organizing equipment for a project should be starting tomorrow, waiting on final go ahead from the client
[15:55:02] <janrinok> we're having curry tonight - unfortunately not a microwaveable one - so I'll have to do some work :)
[15:55:43] <nick> this was a 99p sharwoods chinese chicken curry, so there are consequences to being lazy
[15:56:04] <janrinok> but still a curry and ready when you are hungry.
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[15:56:40] <nick> yeah, it's actually tasting quite good
[15:56:56] <nick> im no good at serious cooking for that, i wait until im real hungry before i start to cook
[15:57:19] <nick> so waiting 2-3hrs for a slow cooked meal, or one with a lot of prep is never really ideal
[15:58:36] <janrinok> I enjoy cooking now that I have the confidence - hours of Ready Steady Cook at al. to thank for that - but occasionally I am content to laze a little. Thursday is my no-cook day usually, so it's pizza on Thu evenings.
[16:00:47] <nick> cooking is really enjoyable, just start too late with it myself
[16:01:33] <nick> but its not something i'd want to be doing every day all the time
[16:02:06] <janrinok> Well, S has to eat at fairly regular intervals so being too late for a meal can be quite a problem for her. Coordination and muscle strength deteriorate within 1 hour although they recover after an hour or two of eating.
[16:03:26] <nick> just takes a bit of planning im sure
[16:03:32] <nick> not spending all day over a hot stove
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[16:04:25] <janrinok> once we get into the routine it is quite easy actually, but disruptions (power failures, house maintenance etc) can have quite a disruptive effect.
[16:04:48] * janrinok thinks there are too many 'disruptions' in that sentence
[16:05:38] <janrinok> which is about time to cue me to go start on my curry. Will be back in a couple of hours.
[16:06:22] <nick> take care
[16:06:26] <janrinok> u2
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[19:23:16] <nick> wb janrinok
[19:24:06] <janrinok> nick: I'm just drafting that 'story' I mentioned earlier - it'll be in the queue but held in a few minutes. I let you know when...
[19:28:58] <janrinok> nick - it's in the queue - it should be obvious!
[19:30:41] <nick> i'll take a look
[19:31:31] <janrinok> by the way - we had a good curry!
[19:32:43] <nick> :D
[19:32:47] <nick> nice, glad you enjoyed it
[19:32:55] <janrinok> thx
[19:33:52] <nick> second paragraph, first sentence, missing a 'that'?
[19:34:02] <janrinok> looking
[19:34:18] <nick> err this, or something
[19:34:22] <nick> just doesnt read right to me
[19:34:42] <janrinok> the one beginning 'The last time'?
[19:35:44] <nick> yeah
[19:36:13] <janrinok> where do you suggest I put it? (har har...)
[19:39:11] <nick> the simple fix is to put "this" between "was involved"
[19:39:28] <janrinok> oh, OK
[19:39:49] <nick> see what i mean?
[19:40:05] <janrinok> done
[19:41:10] <nick> i'd also break from "There are many who contribute" into its own paragraph
[19:41:23] <janrinok> k
[19:41:54] <nick> otherwise it seems good, will go back to it a few times to make sure - need to get this right
[19:42:19] <janrinok> yeah, but no rush. I've also asked for comments on #staff
[19:42:32] <janrinok> this might affect all of us
[19:42:55] <nick> i'd like to make sure we're not coming across as being whiney bitches, if you know what i mean
[19:43:03] <janrinok> yep
[19:43:34] <nick> i think it's one of those things, until you're doing it, you dont realize how much time it takes, every day.
[19:44:27] <janrinok> well, I guess that why so many eds are MIA
[19:45:16] <janrinok> can I ask your feelings - will you continue to try to cover the w/e on your own?
[19:45:44] <janrinok> _if_ I decide to break over the weekends
[19:46:59] <nick> as always, i'll do what i can if you take a break. But with the way you're feeling now, you should take this weekend off and i'll cover it.
[19:48:13] <janrinok> well, if help is on its way then I can keep going for another few weeks no problem, but if there is no interest shown then I will have to reduce my current efforts - S is coming first.
[19:48:56] <nick> of course, you're doing far more than your fair share at the moment
[19:49:26] <janrinok> I enjoy it - in moderation - and I love chatting on here with you and the others
[19:49:32] <nick> i would still say take this weekend off before you do burn out, dont push yourself to burn out
[19:49:50] <nick> the offer is there, think about it anyway
[19:50:03] <janrinok> thx - lets see what happens first.
[19:50:07] <nick> sure
[19:52:31] <nick> with the way the queue is now, i'll be able to get it up to about this time tomorrow before i sign off tonight
[19:53:10] <janrinok> thx - we're looking good at present and, if only we could have this on a Friday evening, the weekends would be easier too
[19:53:51] * janrinok remembers the days of 30+ stories in the submission queue....
[19:53:56] <nick> maybe the discussion yesterday gave people to motivation to submit
[19:54:29] <janrinok> It's been good the last few Mondays - maybe it is a result of the weekend stories
[19:54:45] <nick> some peoples psychology will tell them, once theyve read a story there's no point in submitting it, so even if they see a story they think we should be running
[19:54:55] <nick> they wont submit it because it's old news to them and 'too late' in general
[19:54:56] <janrinok> certainly one or two new submitter names
[19:55:22] <nick> Fauxlosopher was part of yesterdays discussion and made 3 submissions as a result
[19:55:26] <janrinok> I think you summarised it up well there
[19:55:41] <nick> although one was a dupe, was appreciated sticking to his/her word
[19:56:03] <janrinok> yes a very androgenous community ;)
[19:56:13] <nick> heh
[19:56:48] <janrinok> I only learned the other day that Konomi was female. I hope I never said anything out of place...
[19:58:06] <nick> not that its something that should really matter in a forum like this
[19:58:48] <janrinok> and I don't really think that I did - it's not the sort of thing I tend to do until I know someone well enough to know how they will take it
[19:59:42] <janrinok> I do _try_ not to offend
[20:00:12] <nick> well, there are plenty of people who dont bother with that, so i doubt you've caused any problems
[20:00:46] <janrinok> true heh
[20:01:02] <nick> dont recall reading anything divisive or offensive from you
[20:02:13] <janrinok> well, I also feel the editors should at least try to set the standard... But, I confess that I sometimes fail
[20:02:50] <nick> agreed
[20:02:58] <nick> not about the failing bit!
[20:03:20] <janrinok> lol - which bit were you agreeing with - the bit that I fail?
[20:03:32] <janrinok> you were too quick
[20:05:26] <nick> starting to get hungry now
[20:05:38] <janrinok> sry - got no curry left#
[20:21:48] <janrinok> nearly time to go - what are you going to have to eat?
[20:23:36] <nick> frozen pizza :/
[20:24:10] <nick> hope you have a good evening
[20:24:28] <janrinok> thx mate, see you tomorrow?
[20:25:45] <nick> yeah, should be around
[20:25:50] <nick> take care :)
[20:25:52] <janrinok> be good
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