#editorial | Logs for 2015-03-07

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[02:51:36] <n1> over a year ago is not recent
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[13:26:11] <n1> hi janrinok
[13:54:53] <n1> thanks for your comment on the journal, i did go into a bit more detail about the existing process and the benefits of it, but didn't want to bore people before i got to the question, if you know what i mean.
[13:56:08] <n1> hope you didn't think i was planning on going rogue, just trying to get a feel for general opinion for the discretionary authority.
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[14:30:39] <janrinok> n1|a: missed you again. I was in the garden enjoying the sunshine
[14:38:16] <paulej72> janrinok: did the wifey know you were in the backyard with sunshine.
[14:39:00] <janrinok> shhh, she might hear you
[14:39:25] <janrinok> and sunshine just keeps flashing everyone
[14:41:07] <paulej72> don’t stare you might go blind
[14:42:01] <janrinok> too late jpkjdpoiud adupafsa d
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[18:25:02] <janrinok> xlefay: ping
[18:33:31] <paulej72> I think all that is left of xlefay is his connection via ZNC on carbon
[18:34:06] <janrinok> Ah - I say him log on up the page and thought that he had returned
[18:34:14] <janrinok> I saw*#
[18:34:46] <janrinok> paulej72: is the restart going ok?
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[18:37:49] <janrinok> hi n1
[18:38:14] <janrinok> or is it na or n/x6 or....?
[18:40:20] <n1> lol
[18:40:46] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: need to set the topic in here, I'm off to work
[18:41:23] <janrinok> OK have a good one!
[18:41:27] <n1> well it's actually n_a10 right, used to use my cpu when i couldn't be 'nick' on irc.
[18:41:33] <n1> take care, mrcoolbp
[18:41:53] <mrcoolbp> later
[18:42:04] <janrinok> now then, how do I set the topic...?
[18:42:31] <n1> can we op ourselves in here?
[18:42:37] <janrinok> 42
[18:42:52] <n1> .op
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[18:42:58] <n1> seems like we can
[18:43:00] <janrinok> I'm not sure I even understand the question let alone the answer
[18:43:12] <janrinok> Ooh that looked good - what did it do?
[18:43:25] n1 changed topic of #editorial to: | Please read: http://sylnt.us http://sylnt.us and http://sylnt.us | http://en.wikipedia.org |
[18:44:00] <n1> for the most part gives ability to kick/ban people from the channel, or in this case set the topic
[18:44:04] <n1> .deop
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[18:44:20] <janrinok> but those links still work
[18:44:32] <janrinok> .op
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[18:44:46] <janrinok> :p
[18:44:54] <n1> like magic
[18:45:03] <janrinok> er, yeah
[18:45:14] * janrinok still hasn't got a clue what to do next though
[18:45:28] <n1> you can /topic [new topic]
[18:45:44] <janrinok> ...if I wanted to, you mean?
[18:45:47] <n1> yeah
[18:45:55] <n1> or you could /kick n1
[18:45:58] <janrinok> but you know that I would break it....
[18:46:22] <janrinok> I wouldn't do that to you
[18:46:43] <n1> well thats good to know ;)
[18:47:15] <janrinok> 'cos I wouldn't know how to unkick you so to speak, or is it just temporary?
[18:47:28] <n1> a kick is just temporary
[18:47:42] <n1> can rejoin straight away
[18:47:56] <janrinok> still wouldn't do it to you tho
[18:48:29] <janrinok> ...well maybe for shit and giggles..
[18:48:59] <n1> power corrupts so quickly ;)
[18:49:45] <janrinok> I'm starting from quite a low level of personal morales
[18:49:59] <janrinok> morals*
[18:50:11] <janrinok> damn, got the wrong one _again_
[18:50:21] <n1> i used to be a lot more up on IRC stuff, but it's been quite a good while since i did anything but chat.
[18:50:35] * janrinok wonders if anyone (everyone) regrets making him an Ed?
[18:51:10] <n1> i was wondering what your connection to the bolivian president was
[18:51:12] <janrinok> my brain is full, new item in means existing item out...
[18:51:39] <janrinok> and I can't choose which one to lose
[18:52:04] <n1> thats your excuse, not sure what mine is
[18:52:26] <janrinok> lol
[18:53:32] <n1> seriously though, having the internet and other information sources has meant my brain doesn't actually try to retain that much stuff
[18:53:55] <n1> plus don't trust my memory, not when it would count anyway.
[18:54:26] <janrinok> a very widespread problem. And if you ask someone for a phone number for a third party, they have to look at their phone because they simply cannot remember. I know all my important phone numbers
[18:54:40] <n1> being exposed to so much information constantly, it filters through but doesn't retain if you know what i mean
[18:56:14] <n1> a lot of people cant even remember their own
[18:56:38] <janrinok> is that because every time they change phone they have to change number?
[18:56:53] <janrinok> I thought you just transferred the sim card
[18:57:42] <n1> usually you would, but i think people dont hand out their number in the same way
[18:58:20] <n1> socially people use facebook type things, and many make their number public to 'friends' from what i understand
[18:59:04] <janrinok> The only place I have a regular log-in is here and I keep that fairly close to my chest.
[18:59:27] <n1> how do you mean, regular log-in/
[18:59:28] <n1> ?
[18:59:50] <janrinok> By the way, I have to be back in UK in late Aug - Yorkshire area unfortunately - but have you any clearer dates on when you might visit France?
[19:00:12] <janrinok> I don't FB, Twitter or anything else that leaves a trail
[19:01:15] <n1> no clearer yet sorry, probably not then though, will still be festival season.
[19:01:48] <n1> on the fb/twitter though, i have found that even though i do not use such things, it doesnt stop other people talking about and posting pictures
[19:02:15] <janrinok> I would like to link up with you if that is possible and it would be sod's law if the only time you might be coming this way I was going to be in UK.
[19:02:29] <n1> which i find very annoying, and some people will do it specifically because you have asked them not to.
[19:02:45] <n1> indeed, doesn't sound like you'll escape yet though ;)
[19:03:31] <janrinok> already got the beer in - but I'll probably find that a few pints will have me flat on my back. Lack of practice
[19:05:10] <n1> i'm not a big drinker, but that doesn't mean i cant be one heh
[19:05:25] <janrinok> exactly
[19:07:02] <n1> looking forward to spending some time in the UK?
[19:08:05] <janrinok> yes, its my daughter's wedding. I have to get S's parents to come here to look after her while I go back to the UK for 5 days or so. 24 hours travelling each way and 3 days in Yorkshire
[19:09:35] <n1> congrats!
[19:09:54] <janrinok> well, not much of my doing - she has done all the work!
[19:10:14] <n1> 24hrs, driving?
[19:10:15] <janrinok> But it will be good to be there as I cannot get back to UK very often nowadays
[19:10:29] <janrinok> mixture of overnight ferry, and driving
[19:11:07] <n1> well i assumed you wouldn't try to drive across the channel
[19:12:07] <janrinok> no, its the cheapest way but a lot of driving, especially if you are on your own. So the ferry from Roscoff to Portsmouth is the shortest route but is an overnight ferry and costs a few bob.
[19:12:54] <n1> always more expensive than dover calais i would assume
[19:13:22] <n1> quite surprised at how cheap that route can be, but obviously wouldn't work out for you having to go a long way in the wrong direction
[19:14:51] <janrinok> if I go via Calais, I can spend 6-7 hours driving from here to there, and I still need a hotel for a good sleep.
[19:15:30] <n1> yeah, thats what i figured
[19:15:33] <janrinok> Once, I would have started driving and stopped when I got to Yorkshire, but not any more.
[19:15:47] <n1> and 6-7hrs driving probably makes most of the difference in ferry crossing
[19:15:52] <n1> for fuel costs
[19:16:32] <janrinok> Yes, with the fuel saving and the lack of hotel costs it works out best for me.
[19:17:41] <janrinok> Although S's parents will be here, I will probably do another short stop in their house in Bristol rather than do the UK driving in one leg.
[19:17:59] <n1> that is probably a very good idea
[19:18:23] <n1> it's a long drive and not exactly on the most stress-free roads
[19:18:38] <janrinok> It's a vehicle modified for a wheelchair, so it's not the fastest vehicle on the road.
[19:19:32] <n1> not a bad thing, dont need speeding fines
[19:20:42] <janrinok> Actually, from prior experience many years ago, if you have a foreign vehicle they often just wave to slow you down rather than pull you over.
[19:21:00] <n1> my car isnt powerful, but it feels like a waste when i cant even really use the little power it does have
[19:21:04] <janrinok> But I wouldn't want to abuse that goodwill
[19:21:10] <n1> you're probably alright on the cameras too, with foreign plates
[19:22:01] <n1> i knew someone who was a resident of jersey, went everywhere at 100mph because they didnt forward the tickets
[19:22:05] <n1> or the jersey government just ignores them
[19:22:09] <janrinok> Probably better than being in a Brit car, but if a fine arrives in France from the UK the French police make sure that you pay it. For a long time that wasn't reciprocated.
[19:22:44] <janrinok> Unfortunately, with the unified licenses, it is very easy to do nowadays.
[19:23:08] <n1> this wasnt very long ago, but i can see them getting more strict as time goes on
[19:23:38] <n1> the guy who was a resident of jersey also had fun going to the US, when their immigration people didn't believe that Jersey was a real place with its own passports.
[19:24:40] <janrinok> On the whole, I have only had good experiences with the police in either country - providing you're not taking the piss they will often be quite reasonable about it. The one exception I have found is in and around Paris, where fines seem to be a money-raising scheme.
[19:25:28] <n1> havnt had any experience with the french police, but ive only been stopped twice here too
[19:25:40] <n1> the first was totally reasonable
[19:25:54] <n1> the second wanted to impress the two female police officers he was with it appeared
[19:26:30] <janrinok> well, all I will say is avoid Paris unless that is your destination. There may be other places that behave simlarly in France but I've had the good fortune not to go to any of them ;)
[19:27:18] <n1> good advice, ive been to paris before and have no desire to return really
[19:27:49] <janrinok> Mind you, the rest of France hates Parisiennes too - so they probably get clobbered by my local police
[19:28:23] <janrinok> I might have just written that in French - my mind is addled
[19:29:07] <n1> i understand, it's those people in paris that give the french a bad name!
[19:29:23] <janrinok> lol - that's about it!
[19:30:17] <n1> im sure there are some nice things about paris though
[19:30:31] <janrinok> the exit?
[19:30:58] <n1> it's probably quite like london, the overall picture isnt great, but the little areas make it amazing
[19:31:14] <janrinok> Yes, it's got everything that a capital city should have - culture, nightlife, business, wealth, infrastructure etc.
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[19:33:38] <janrinok> cosurgi: hi, sup?
[19:34:43] <janrinok> Sites down again as the DB goes off line I think
[19:34:47] <cosurgi> janrinok: hi, I just noticed that irc server was down and my nick changed
[19:35:24] <janrinok> I thought that they had finished on IRC - perhaps there are a few probs. Anyway, hi again cosurgi
[19:36:04] <janrinok> site is back up again
[19:36:26] <janrinok> it seems very slow to me, have you noticed any change n1?
[19:36:31] <cosurgi> yeah, hi. I was away for some time :) sorry for that. I was on a winter school on general relativity https://www.youtube.com http://www.gravity-and-light.org
[19:36:32] <AdmiralNachoSupreme> ^ 03The WE-Heraeus International Winter School on Gravity and Light - YouTube
[19:36:32] <AdmiralNachoSupreme> ^ 03Gravity and Light International Winter School 2015
[19:37:03] <janrinok> nothing like a bit of 'light' reading, eh?
[19:37:26] <cosurgi> heheh, yeah. It was indeed very demanding and intensive course :)
[19:37:27] <janrinok> sorry, I'll be here all week, try the fish
[19:37:48] <janrinok> I've no doubt
[19:38:20] <janrinok> Ah, I've been logged out of the main site again
[19:38:35] <janrinok> ...and it's down here
[19:38:48] <cosurgi> I'm logged out too
[19:39:12] <n1> i think the db server was due to go down about now?
[19:39:21] <n1> or this could be an example of why i dont trust my memory.
[19:39:29] <cosurgi> I'll be right back, hold on.
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[19:40:11] <janrinok> yes, but I can't reach several other channels here either. It'll be fixed by those who know what they are doing.
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[19:40:36] <janrinok> cosurgi: did you enjoy the course?
[19:41:02] <cosurgi> yes, I did. Though it was very exchausting.
[19:41:38] <cosurgi> also, this youtube channel is a very good resource for people who are determined to learn general relativity
[19:41:52] <janrinok> does it give you an extra qualification, or is it related to work/studies?
[19:42:15] <cosurgi> I'd say it cover about 80% of all material we had there, except for ability to talk with tutors and professors and ask questions in person.
[19:42:29] <cosurgi> It's related to my passion :) and studies too :)
[19:42:40] <janrinok> bonus!
[19:42:50] <cosurgi> about qualification - it's worth 6 ECTS points in european education system
[19:43:08] <janrinok> that's a useful course
[19:43:37] <janrinok> n1: thanks for trying to help there, but I had no success
[19:44:37] <n1> once you do it you should be able to join
[19:44:50] <janrinok> I did and couldn't
[19:44:54] <n1> :/
[19:45:11] <janrinok> I'll let them sort things out first
[19:45:29] <n1> you're not missing anything
[19:45:30] <n1> lol
[19:46:01] <janrinok> I wondered where all 'the workers' were gathering. #Soylent is quiet too.
[19:46:29] <janrinok> perhaps it's just the 3 of us...?
[19:46:47] <janrinok> perhaps _we_ are now in charge...
[19:46:59] <n1> lol
[19:47:04] <n1> seems that way
[19:47:18] * janrinok wonders how to type an evil grin and rubbing hands icon
[19:47:34] <cosurgi> :-E
[19:47:37] <cosurgi> like that :)
[19:48:10] <janrinok> close enough!
[19:48:26] <n1> muahahaha
[19:48:42] <cosurgi> in fact I was pondering whether to submit a story about https://www.youtube.com since that youtube resource is pretty good. I was just a little too lazy (for now).
[19:48:42] <AdmiralNachoSupreme> ^* 03The WE-Heraeus International Winter School on Gravity and Light - YouTube
[19:48:48] <janrinok> I could actually hear that as I read it
[19:49:03] <n1> >:)
[19:49:17] <janrinok> cosurgi: in your own time, but I'd like to see it
[19:49:55] <cosurgi> they are still uploading more stuff.
[19:50:36] <janrinok> any subs are welcome, as you know. Especially subs that make people think
[19:50:53] <n1> that looks to be a very impressive resource
[19:53:23] <janrinok> life on #soylent - TMB is back on
[19:55:40] <cosurgi> whoa, I am logged in, again.
[19:55:53] <cosurgi> I did not log in. But I am logged in.
[19:56:05] <janrinok> TMB is on #soylent for info, we're just chatting there
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