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[20:35:57] <nick> :)
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[20:35:55] <nick> take care janrinok
[20:35:45] <janrinok> but I must go - have a good evening and I'll do some more work on the bots story tomorrow. Have a good day, nick.
[20:34:13] <janrinok> well, I must confess that we try to eat well. Not large quantities, but I try to cook a varied and tasty diet.
[20:28:43] <nick> is not fair
[20:28:40] <nick> i have some frozen burgers cooking right now, and i get back to read about a nice curry with lemon rice and naan bread
[20:27:36] <nick> so jealous right now
[20:27:20] <janrinok> real, home-made, freshly-baked naan bread
[20:25:04] <nick> mmmm naan bread
[20:20:51] <janrinok> Damn, the evening is passing quickly, only a few minutes until I must go.
[20:16:13] <janrinok> it's better than some that have been submitted :o
[20:15:50] <paulej72> is that the kind of question you were looking for?
[20:15:15] <janrinok> paulej72: or perhaps my eyes had already glazed over when that question flashed past on my screen
[20:14:21] <janrinok> I love curry - medium but aromatic curry, lemon rice, a naan bread or two, and a good cool real ale.
[20:13:36] <janrinok> is that to me or CN?
[20:13:20] <paulej72> what's your favorite food ??
[20:12:39] <janrinok> the CowboyNeal thread has some good questions but a lot are squandering the opportunity. Still, that's the community we serve.
[20:10:53] <paulej72> back
[20:10:16] <nick> time for me to decide on dinner
[20:08:28] <janrinok> it's never too early, you are just late from yesterday's drinking
[20:08:24] <paulej72> brb, i have to return some coffee to the wild
[20:08:21] <nick> what janrinok said
[20:07:53] <janrinok> it's always beer o'clock
[20:07:40] <paulej72> is it beer o'clock yet
[20:07:07] <paulej72> hey I resemble that remark :P
[20:07:05] <janrinok> 70% tech, 30% what people want to talk about.
[20:06:00] <janrinok> I certainly don't find them all biased or too left wing - but compared to here in France, both US parties are fairly right wing...
[20:05:24] <nick> but they're not all that 'relevant' to the site sometimes, and im pretty open when it comes to the subject matter we cover
[20:05:04] <nick> i like the majority of his stories
[20:04:45] <janrinok> I made a comment a few days back - if I stop posting all of gewg's stories, I am effectively stopping his free speech - something we said we would never do
[20:03:25] <janrinok> gewg_ occasionally produces a good story. I often have to try to remove the politics or the 'hash' bias, but he has his uses. He and Hugh Pickens both provide a fair number of stories whether they are universally liked or not.
[20:02:09] <janrinok> paulej72: I don't let that keep me awake at night
[20:01:54] <nick> janrinok, i guess you dont count gewg_ in 'anyone' ;)
[20:00:48] <paulej72> waaah waaay someone deleted my utterly pants sub
[20:00:07] <janrinok> I let others see if they can make a story out of it - but after a while I just bin it and wait to see if anyone complains. They never have!
[19:59:20] <nick> I rarely delete anything from the list, i think it ends up we're all waiting for someone else to make the executive decision
[19:59:06] <janrinok> TMB*
[19:58:57] <janrinok> TMN have a good eat and sleep.
[19:58:33] <janrinok> I'm pleased to see that the dross has finally been deleted from the Subs list. I've taken out quite a bit over the last few days, but it looks more timely and relevant now
[19:58:26] <paulej72> its less than NCommander's
[19:58:15] <paulej72> :)
[19:57:51] <TheMightyBuzzard> okay, my hands is shaking. going to get a sammich, then a nap, then get back to reading through paulej72's 35 freaking files worth of pull request
[19:55:51] <nick> haha
[19:55:35] <janrinok> if you edit that quickly, your 4 stories shouldn't take long
[19:55:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> hey, if AT&T can do it to me...
[19:55:17] * TheMightyBuzzard quickly edits the contract
[19:55:08] <janrinok> lol
[19:55:00] <nick> i think you'll find that only applies to dev work...
[19:54:38] <TheMightyBuzzard> thankfully, i have mandatory nap time in my contract.
[19:54:20] * TheMightyBuzzard sighs
[19:54:07] <janrinok> yeah, come on TMB, you have another 4 stories to get out before you finish today.
[19:53:55] <paulej72> the headlines are <h3>s so anything below a headline should be <h4> or lower
[19:53:25] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh. well crap. i keep tryin to be just a dev and keep getting more stuff stuck to me.
[19:53:24] <paulej72> <h3>'s break the sanity of the page for screen readers
[19:52:58] <janrinok> ah
[19:52:53] <paulej72> TheMightyBuzzard author status
[19:52:51] <janrinok> the <h3> bug?
[19:52:34] <paulej72> fixed
[19:50:59] <nick> lol
[19:50:50] <janrinok> it's just moved 4 places down the bug list on that comment alone
[19:50:45] <nick> and personally I think bold makes it an easier read than the larger <h3>
[19:50:31] <janrinok> don't tell him that....
[19:50:22] <nick> it's not something that we have to worry about all that often
[19:50:14] <janrinok> ah devs, [$DEITY] bless 'em
[19:49:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, stop making more work for me!
[19:49:24] <janrinok> I might have to edit our wiki entry on format or something...
[19:49:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> why not <h4>?
[19:48:54] <janrinok> sounds like a dev problem to me ;-)
[19:48:27] <nick> the <h3> tags apparently break something, so if you're keeping headlines on merged stories, replace <h3>'s with <b>
[19:48:11] <janrinok> go ahead
[19:48:04] <nick> oh janrinok, one thing you might have missed in a discussion in here at some point
[19:47:29] <janrinok> you will be but only after it goes out and the magic fairy visits the system during the night
[19:47:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> probably. also a good chance i'm not in the authors cache
[19:46:31] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: is that RFC story the first one you have edited and released yourself? You do not show as Author - but that is a known bug on a first release
[19:45:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> i don't think any straight guy in class that day heard a word she said. there is simply no way to wear a tinkerbell outfit and not look slutty as nine kinds of hell.
[19:45:13] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: I obviously went to the wrong school
[19:45:08] <nick> coming to class as tinkerbell is a pretty bold move
[19:44:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, that would have been an epic teacher not a good one.
[19:44:41] <nick> haha
[19:44:30] <janrinok> I misread that completely - I thought you said 'Didn't mind sleeping with me in class' - Must do ONE thing at once...
[19:43:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, i had a biology teacher like that. she was awesome. great freaking legs too. came to class on halloween as tinkerbell.
[19:42:59] <nick> TheMightyBuzzard, she was good in the way she didnt mind me sleeping in class, as long as i didnt disrupt,
[19:42:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> i'm even cool with that as long as they're good at it. i never had any passion for my job until i got into my own business. well cept my stint in the army.
[19:42:37] <nick> ah
[19:42:37] <janrinok> I am editing
[19:42:29] <janrinok> ... which mean 'will comply' in aircrew speak
[19:42:27] <nick> whos going to do it, i see you and paulej72 on the story
[19:42:13] <janrinok> k - wilco
[19:41:57] <nick> from the start of that sentence
[19:41:50] <nick> is just remove the "So"
[19:41:43] <nick> janrinok, only change I would make: So given the legitimate concerns of gamification of karma scores leading to lower quality comments raised by some users in regards to our RFC: Reworking Karma post, we agree and the idea has been scrapped.
[19:41:03] <nick> it was just a job, no passion for it
[19:40:45] <nick> well yeah, but it's not very good indicator of being an educator is a vocation
[19:40:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> well honestly i should hope so. nobody gonna die if you fuck up some grammar, usually.
[19:40:12] <nick> i appreciated the honesty, but thought it was quite shocking at the same time
[19:39:59] <nick> to move from South Africa to the UK
[19:39:57] <janrinok> ... and nurses look sexier
[19:39:48] <TheMightyBuzzard> ha!
[19:39:40] <nick> was due to it being a shorter studying time than being a nurse
[19:39:28] <nick> i thought it was bad when my english teacher said the only reason she was a teacher#
[19:38:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> truth
[19:38:32] <nick> shows a basic failing on their part of understanding the language, even if they hadn't seen the word much "bi" and "lingual" should give them a fucking clue
[19:37:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> and a biting commentary on the state of public education
[19:37:23] <nick> that is insanity
[19:37:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> nick, i shit you not. my 9th grade english teacher thought that. sent me to the office when i showed him in a dictionary.
[19:36:21] <nick> janrinok, on my way
[19:36:16] <nick> taught english by someone who didnt know the meaning of bilingual?
[19:33:05] <janrinok> nick: I've just update and repositioned it - final read through please
[19:32:36] <TheMightyBuzzard> which is pretty good for me. i should go find one of my english teachers and give her an apple. not the one who thought bilingual meant you couldn't speak english though. that guy was a retard.
[19:30:24] <nick> nothing else is jumping out at me
[19:30:07] <nick> otherwise it reads fine
[19:28:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> save a word
[19:28:05] <janrinok> k
[19:28:00] <nick> but as it was originally, i read it twice as you're free to spam 5 times a day
[19:27:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> swap it to Spam mods to not cost ...
[19:27:50] <nick> with paulej72's addition of mods makes more sense
[19:27:27] <TheMightyBuzzard> making makes sense, marking just wtfs happen
[19:27:23] <janrinok> I think you mean 'Marking Spam..."
[19:27:09] <janrinok> the draft read "Making Spam not to cost mod points...
[19:27:05] <paulej72> Making Spam mods not cost ....
[19:27:00] <nick> the way i read it at first, was you're allowed to spam the site 5 times a day
[19:26:42] <TheMightyBuzzard> marking?
[19:26:35] <nick> just took a couple reads to comprehend what was going on there
[19:26:25] <nick> cool
[19:26:16] <janrinok> I've changed that to marking, nick
[19:26:15] <TheMightyBuzzard> 35 files changed... you bastard...
[19:26:01] * TheMightyBuzzard eyes paulej72
[19:25:33] <nick> 4) Making Spam not cost mod points but limiting it to 5/day .... making/marking?
[19:25:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> see above re: dance of shame
[19:24:23] <janrinok> paulej72: TheMightyBuzzard: I would remove the http(s) but someone has put that link in the RFC draft. Now, I wonder who that was....?
[19:24:10] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, my coffee finally kicked in. i was worthless all morning.
[19:23:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> shurg
[19:23:44] <paulej72> I believe I did, but the question did it take as I saved multiple times
[19:23:37] <nick> there's something going on today, too high spirits for a monday.
[19:23:29] <TheMightyBuzzard> numfar, do the dance of shame
[19:23:08] <nick> lol
[19:23:08] <TheMightyBuzzard> paulej72, didja fix the one i did that on?
[19:22:50] <janrinok> ;-)
[19:22:46] <paulej72> Also if you can leave off http: and https: from SN links that would be awsome too
[19:22:39] <janrinok> nick: what the hell is unicode anyway?
[19:21:52] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh ya, edity guys, use proper unicode if ya can from now on. no need to ੩ anymore.
[19:21:20] <nick> lol
[19:21:02] <janrinok> so was I - UTF FTW
[19:20:50] * TheMightyBuzzard is especially proud of working the I ♥ Moose Wang bit into a serious story
[19:20:34] <janrinok> TheMightyBuzzard: yeah - I'm actually just deleting it all and refilling the text with personal insults to all the devs
[19:19:59] <nick> im having a read of it now
[19:19:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> janrinok, any time in the next 15 seconds is fine. no rush.</joke>
[19:19:13] <janrinok> nothing nick - I'm just editing a story that they want out fairly quickly and then I'll reshuffle the list to get it out
[19:19:02] <paulej72> world came to and end, but restared just where it left off. No one noticed
[19:18:30] <nick> what did i miss
[19:17:45] <paulej72> :)
[19:16:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> closed now. that's what happens when you let devs n admins edit.
[19:16:37] <janrinok> thx - otherwise changes get a bit confused. Carry on reading TheMightyBuzzard
[19:16:18] <paulej72> I am done
[19:16:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh i had it open reading it
[19:16:02] <janrinok> paulej72: TheMightyBuzzard are either of you still working on the RFC story - the editor shows that you both are
[19:12:25] <paulej72> thot sounds good
[19:12:10] <janrinok> it will go in the next available slot and I'll move the story that is currently there
[19:11:44] <janrinok> k
[19:11:38] <paulej72> probably soonest would be good. Want to get the most hits on it as possible
[19:10:59] <janrinok> np - consider it done
[19:10:48] <paulej72> Thanks
[19:10:45] <paulej72> Can one of you look it over and make sure it is readable and fix the times on the other stores to make it fit OK
[19:10:23] <janrinok> so you want it out soonest?
[19:10:09] <paulej72> we have an RFC that we want to go out today. I have set not to display and just put in a no so good time slot
[19:09:59] <janrinok> paulej72: can I help, nick is here too?
[19:09:30] <janrinok> yep
[19:09:25] <paulej72> any eds still here
[19:04:57] <janrinok> thx - I was very tired yesterday pm - and I didn't sleep well so I'm still knackered today.
[19:04:20] <nick> awesome
[19:04:18] <nick> see you had been busy over weekend in my absence, so trying to give you a well deserved break
[19:03:59] <janrinok> was very nice salmon
[19:03:40] <nick> wb
[18:59:20] <janrinok> ok - I'm back now and I've read your message
[17:09:26] <nick> janrinok, my plan for this evening is to manage the queue up until about 12:00UTC tomorrow, if we dont have enough subs to get us there, i'll make some subs myself
[16:50:41] <nick> fruit, vitamins and something else....
[16:50:33] <nick> i need to go shop, but i cant remember what for
[16:50:09] <nick> damn nationality. international citizen for life.
[16:50:01] * mrcoolbp goes to make breakfast
[16:49:57] <mrcoolbp> lol
[16:47:30] <nick> actually, our constition comes in the form of... "the queen wouldn't let that happen."
[16:46:10] <nick> the laws, human rights and international law, is for the little people, those newer or backwards countries, not for us, we can use our discretion.
[16:45:28] <nick> we are exempt from the laws we wrote, because we know better, our government is too well established to ever abuse its power (idk how that logic works, but apparently)
[16:44:17] <nick> because it makes law enforcement and stopping terrorist much harder
[16:44:08] <nick> the UK seems more concerned about removing whatever legal protections exist if only in theory
[16:41:49] <nick> i envy that you do have those defined rights to use easily
[16:40:14] <nick> because of 'the troubles'
[16:40:11] <nick> but we had decades of terrorism and these kind of things being normal
[16:39:53] <nick> because if we don't, terrorists.
[16:39:50] <mrcoolbp> well we do = )
[16:39:42] <nick> which is why no one in the UK really cares about being spied on all the time
[16:39:39] <mrcoolbp> we are a whiney bunch tho eh?
[16:39:29] <nick> or just ignoring the whole lot and dealing with 'the reality of the situation we're in now'
[16:39:27] <mrcoolbp> yeah that's weird to me
[16:39:17] <nick> whereas the UK is brought it up to just accept any whim from the current government
[16:39:04] <mrcoolbp> bam. nailed it
[16:38:55] <nick> being educated to believe those fundamental principles are what govern the country and are supposed to restrict governments potential for tyranny
[16:38:49] <mrcoolbp> yeah, we no likey
[16:37:45] <nick> ive even had to explain to them why ya'll americans (or some of you) care so much about it, with the fairly well defined legal principals of the consitution which explicitly state the rights and freedoms your entitled to as Americans
[16:35:52] <nick> it's never been the case, communications internal and exteranl always been subject to monitoring
[16:35:22] <nick> but as i am reminded by members of my family, here in britain there has never been any expectation of privacy in communication, even if it might have been implicit in the legal system
[16:32:54] <nick> is*
[16:32:51] <nick> because personally, i'm not going to put my name on it, i will just assume that they have been spying on me with legal and illegal justifications, such if life.
[16:32:30] <mrcoolbp> there will be feedback
[16:32:21] <nick> im interested in what/if any feedback there is going to be
[16:32:12] <mrcoolbp> I meant these are the stories that becon the tinfoil beanies
[16:31:47] <mrcoolbp> I'm guessing a lot of the comments will be: "sure sure, we'll just hand us all your info etc"
[16:31:46] <mrcoolbp> good point, article already does that
[16:31:33] <nick> i dont think its our place to encourage
[16:31:08] <mrcoolbp> nick ^
[16:31:03] <mrcoolbp> maybe add "Join Privacy Int...."
[16:30:38] * mrcoolbp like
[16:29:58] <nick> "Privacy International's Campaign to Disclose Illegal GCHQ Spying"
[16:27:26] <mrcoolbp> might work
[16:27:20] <nick> disclose?
[16:27:11] <nick> expose might be better, but still doesnt fit quite right in context
[16:26:25] <nick> its not the best word
[16:26:22] <nick> yeah
[16:26:16] <mrcoolbp> "Uncover" works, but it's already uncovered....
[16:25:57] <mrcoolbp> I'm searching for a word
[16:25:51] <mrcoolbp> expose, de-mystify,
[16:25:38] <mrcoolbp> s/Uncover/something else/
[16:24:33] <nick> "Privacy International's Campaign to Uncover GCHQ Spying" ?
[16:17:23] <mrcoolbp> lol
[16:17:20] <mrcoolbp> "GCHQ Spying and You"
[16:17:03] <mrcoolbp> nick: "Join the Campaign to Uncover GCHQ Spying" or something
[16:14:01] <nick> also, at time i put it in the queue the links are dead; privacyinternational.org is spitting out 502 errors for all pages. i'm assuming it'd going to be live again before the story goes out in a few hours
[16:13:00] <nick> if anyone can think of a headline for the gchq story, would be nice
[16:06:18] <janrinok> k
[16:05:58] <nick> so whenever/whoever has the time between now and then
[16:05:50] <nick> there's a good few links in the story and ive edited it a fair bit to make it an easier read, but it's not going out until 21:00
[16:03:52] <janrinok> nick: ^
[16:02:26] <janrinok> nick ok - I'll give it a look but not immediately
[16:02:01] <janrinok> Subsentient: There are only a handful of stories in the submission queue. That is one reason why I was spacing at about 90-120 minutes this morning. It would be nice to have enough stories to see us through the evening and early hours, but Monday isn't a very good submission day. Still we might get a few more.
[16:01:49] <nick> im just about to put the Aliens movie story into the queue but it does very much need a second look over
[15:58:05] <janrinok> no - we only got it a few minutes ago and I'll start work on it in an hour or 2 once I've got S taken care of. Nick is posting a few stories.
[15:57:14] <Subsentient> janrinok: Any links for me to see what's being produced or is it all mental now?
[15:57:12] <janrinok> lol - a special hat!
[15:56:57] <Subsentient> janrinok: kk
[15:56:36] * Subsentient puts on his technical advising hat
[15:56:24] <janrinok> Subsentient: assume the role of technical advisor in the production of this story
[15:51:58] * aqu4 gives aqu4 a cold can of beer
[15:51:57] <Subsentient> $beer aqu4
[15:51:26] <mrcoolbp> = )
[15:51:22] <mrcoolbp> okay so Subsentient is off of that job
[15:51:04] <Subsentient> Any story on IRC bots must be 93% boasting of aqu4's glory, and 7% talking about all the other lame bots.
[15:51:01] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: yah gotta delegate a bit. Sorry, I gotta go to work soon = )
[15:50:30] <nick> i'll push it back half hour or so
[15:50:08] * Subsentient sneaks away to get out of the work
[15:50:06] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: I like your style of leadership!
[15:49:53] <janrinok> I never knew we had so many channels active......
[15:49:43] <mrcoolbp> or we can make Subsentient do it for practice...
[15:49:23] <mrcoolbp> nick: do you want to give the interview article a little more leeway? Looks like we don't have too much in the queue anyway
[15:48:53] <janrinok> OK, make a start and I'll pull something together as well, I'll start from the bottom working up....
[15:48:40] <nick> just putting a few stories in the queue and then i'll take a look at it
[15:48:33] <mrcoolbp> nah no rush guys
[15:48:24] <nick> janrinok, i can take a look first if you want. i'm guessing we dont need to get it out ASAP.
[15:48:21] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03crutchy> mentioned in the batcave (#) cos that channel seems to be "bot central" - Pastebin.com
[15:48:21] <mrcoolbp> http://pastebin.com
[15:48:20] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: I asked crutchy to enumerate some of the bots:
[15:47:58] <janrinok> what, involve someone who knows what he is talking about - rediculous concept
[15:47:55] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: :^D
[15:47:48] <mrcoolbp> they are writing a story about SN IRC bots
[15:47:31] <mrcoolbp> subsentient: can you assist janrinok with above task?
[15:47:20] <Subsentient> mrcoolbp: ?
[15:47:19] <janrinok> enough* random 't's keeping appearing
[15:47:12] <mrcoolbp> Subsentient: duh, why didn't I think of it
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[15:46:58] <janrinok> nick - I've posted enought stories today, I'll make a start on it this evening after I have got S settled down for the night
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[15:46:02] <janrinok> lol
[15:45:46] <mrcoolbp> this is why I'm not writing the article = )
[15:45:37] <mrcoolbp> there ya go
[15:45:31] <nick> "Eggdrop is a popular IRC bot and the oldest still being maintained"
[15:45:28] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Eggheads.org - Main Index
[15:45:28] <mrcoolbp> http://eggheads.org
[15:45:08] <mrcoolbp> er a bot language
[15:45:06] <nick> type of bot anyway
[15:44:59] <nick> eggdrop is a bot
[15:44:58] <mrcoolbp> eggdrop is a scripting language IIRC
[15:44:49] <mrcoolbp> batcave is channel # (##) I think
[15:44:23] <janrinok> nick: sure
[15:44:06] <janrinok> well, terminology. What is the batcave or eggdrop
[15:43:42] <nick> janrinok, if you want to have first go and then i'll take a look?
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[15:40:46] <mrcoolbp> I have work in 2 hours, can assist till then if ya want
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[15:40:15] <mrcoolbp> = )
[15:40:11] <mrcoolbp> maybe you can delegate/collaborate to nick or something
[15:40:08] <janrinok> I/we haven't done anything yet....
[15:39:50] <mrcoolbp> no thank you = )
[15:39:44] <janrinok> thx
[15:39:39] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03crutchy> mentioned in the batcave (#) cos that channel seems to be "bot central" - Pastebin.com
[15:39:39] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: http://pastebin.com
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[15:38:56] <mrcoolbp> sec
[15:38:55] <mrcoolbp> yah
[15:38:32] <janrinok> could you pastebin it or something?
[15:38:00] <janrinok> lol - well we will give it our best shot
[15:37:29] <mrcoolbp> be forewarned
[15:37:24] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: I can just dump the convo in here, but it's wall-o-text style
[15:36:04] <janrinok> yes, sure
[15:35:59] <janrinok> I don't know more than a fraction of it
[15:35:54] <mrcoolbp> do you think any of the editors would want to compile into an article?
[15:35:44] <janrinok> that'll be good
[15:35:38] <mrcoolbp> he didn't actually write one, but he enumerated some of the functions and stuff
[15:35:22] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: I reached out to crutchy about writing a story about all the cool IRC stuff we've done
[15:35:12] <janrinok> in _my_ world I'm normal
[15:34:57] <mrcoolbp> weirdo
[15:33:32] <janrinok> the lag just kept on climbing
[15:33:21] <mrcoolbp> ?
[15:33:15] <janrinok> they could make a TV series of something like that....
[15:33:12] <mrcoolbp> what happened?
[15:32:54] <janrinok> gosh, that was exciting
[15:32:18] <janrinok> ...engines wind down
[15:32:14] * mrcoolbp checks up on subsentient's progress
[15:31:58] <mrcoolbp> = )
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[15:31:47] <mrcoolbp> was it something I said ?
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[15:31:14] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: not sure actually
[15:26:28] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: I'll reckon between 80 - 90 usable posts, your best guess?
[15:25:07] <janrinok> looks good - nothing to do
[15:24:03] <janrinok> k looking
[15:23:40] <mrcoolbp> all set
[15:23:37] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: also please check
[15:23:30] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: it's your fault
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[15:22:44] <Subsentient> $restart
[15:21:19] <Subsentient> lol
[15:21:14] <janrinok> Subsentient: your fault? Surely you must be mistaken. Blame a computer!
[15:21:04] <aqu4> OWNERS: [$restart]: Tells me to restart myself. Pass nosave if you don't want me to remember session-specific channels etc.
[15:21:04] <Subsentient> $help restart
[15:20:45] <Subsentient> I specifically passed $restart nosave because I was wondering if it was a bug
[15:20:30] <Subsentient> janrinok: No, I was wondering why it wasn't doing something, turns out it's my fault
[15:20:15] <janrinok> Subsentient: does your bot need to restart again now?
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[15:14:18] <janrinok> k
[15:14:15] <mrcoolbp> janrinok ^
[15:14:12] * mrcoolbp is going to tweak it a bit, I will ask for review in 10 min
[15:13:50] <janrinok> np
[15:13:47] <mrcoolbp> = )
[15:13:44] <mrcoolbp> sorry buddy
[15:13:41] <janrinok> lol
[15:13:38] <mrcoolbp> I saw that
[15:13:16] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: hi - NCommander 'stole' that task from me!
[15:12:51] * mrcoolbp hasn't had coffee yet so sugar coating would be ideal
[15:12:37] <mrcoolbp> how goes it
[15:12:32] <mrcoolbp> morning nick
[15:12:21] <nick> mornin' mrcoolbp
[15:08:55] * mrcoolbp is waking up
[15:04:32] <nick> salmon sounds good, i keep meaning to get some
[15:00:27] <janrinok> salmon with chilli and ginger tonight, prolly with pasta
[14:59:51] <janrinok> prolly smells good too
[14:59:42] <janrinok> sounds good
[14:52:15] <nick> stirfry chicken and noodles
[14:22:11] <janrinok> time for tea
[14:21:59] <janrinok> getting telephone calls tee'd up etc could be difficult
[14:18:16] <nick> should really make some lunch
[14:16:16] <nick> must be tricky trying to do business with people the other end of the country
[14:15:44] <janrinok> through*
[14:15:34] <janrinok> When I lived in Russia, I could travel throught 11 timezones and still be in the same country!
[14:14:41] <janrinok> yeah, I sleep through most of the TZs significantly east of my bed...
[14:14:12] <nick> although that could well just be because timezones mean i see more east coast activity
[14:14:01] <nick> east cost america is generally the most active in my experience
[14:13:43] <nick> seems fairly typical
[14:13:01] <janrinok> seems like a daft choice of timezones for a default but, what the hell?
[14:12:25] <janrinok> True, but if you are not logged in it defaults NOT to UTC, but the east coast USA, where SN is located
[14:12:22] <nick> so for now, Subsentient just keep in mind, whatever stories you do, the time will be 7hours ahead
[14:11:44] <nick> but it still doesn't change backslash
[14:11:36] <nick> yeah
[14:11:31] <janrinok> You have to set the timezone that you desire in your options, don't you?
[14:10:56] <nick> i just changed my time to MST, but indeed backslash still uses UTC
[14:10:53] <janrinok> I think I'm talking myself into gobbledyspook speak
[14:10:16] <janrinok> nor can SN send you pages in your preferred timezone
[14:10:02] <janrinok> SN or slash is using UTC internally, but _its_ local time if you do not log in yet view stories. It is UTC+5 if I recall, east coast somewhere. Your computer cannot change SN's displayed pages if you are not logged in.
[14:08:18] <Subsentient> janrinok: For me, different time zones make a difference of many hours, and there is no easy way to see what timezone slash is referring tro.
[14:07:49] <janrinok> Subsentient: yes but I'm missing the point that you are making
[14:07:00] <Subsentient> See the difference there?
[14:06:54] <aqu4> Mon 2015-03-02 02:05:47 PM UTC
[14:06:54] <Subsentient> $time UTC
[14:06:53] <nick> it would be convinient for me.
[14:06:52] <aqu4> Mon 2015-03-02 07:05:45 AM MST
[14:06:52] <Subsentient> $time MST
[14:06:50] <Subsentient> janrinok: Here's the problem for me.
[14:06:50] <nick> need to get the whole world on UTC
[14:06:09] <janrinok> and I just work in UTC even though I live in France. All my computers show mulitple times just for the hell of it
[14:05:55] <Subsentient> I think someone needs to go through the code and put the name of the timezone next to the displayed time.
[14:05:13] <nick> i've never changed it, so it shows UTC to me both on blackslash and on the public pages
[14:05:03] <janrinok> Subsentient: never seen that before....
[14:04:36] <nick> backslash is on UTC, but when you're on public pages it goes to SN time or your preferences
[14:04:19] <nick> Subsentient, that's what im figuring
[14:04:03] <Subsentient> janrinok: I was logged in every step of the way, so perhaps backSlash is showing me two separate timezones?
[14:03:57] <nick> i'm guessing he thought the 12:00 would be his time not UTC?
[14:03:09] <janrinok> Subsentient posted a story but subsequently thought that its timing had been changed - I suspect he was looking at the pending list but I'm not sure
[14:02:55] <nick> it does confuse me a when that happens
[14:02:19] <janrinok> you can still see subs and the pending list - which will show in SN time
[14:02:00] <nick> well no, but if you're not logged in you cant post a story
[14:01:48] <janrinok> nick: but if you are not logged in - it doesn't read the options does it...
[14:01:36] <nick> not sure if it works for the stories queue or whatever though
[14:01:21] <nick> there is an option somewhere to set your time though, i believe?
[14:00:48] <janrinok> mine shows US time (SN system time) if I'm NOT logged in, but UTC when I am.
[14:00:03] <nick> <3 UTC
[13:59:49] <Subsentient> janrinok: IF I am logged in it shows in UTC? Not UTC if NOT logged in?
[13:59:27] <janrinok> Subsentient: referring to your comment re timing above - if you are logged in it shows all times in UTC, otherwise it defaults to your system time which might be why the timings look different
[13:58:46] <nick> means he must be planning something
[13:58:41] <nick> the fact he emailed me now, after 5months or so of silence
[13:58:27] <nick> doesn't say, but one would soon if he's hoping on getting me on board for this season
[13:57:34] <janrinok> when does he 'think' he will be able to pay up?
[13:57:08] <nick> or do i get the money and keep the possibility of working with him open
[13:56:39] <nick> i dont really know where to go with it at this point though, do i just go for the money i'm owed
[13:56:02] <janrinok> true - good riposte
[13:55:41] <nick> if it was singing, that could explain the dancing
[13:55:09] <janrinok> lol - editors! damn!
[13:54:47] <nick> you know what i meant!
[13:54:47] <janrinok> same same
[13:54:44] <nick> lol
[13:54:35] <nick> "[...] this will enable me to get the funds I owe you out of another company that I am now a partner in if this is ok?"
[13:54:35] <janrinok> but I suppose any email singing is not good
[13:53:55] <janrinok> did it also include 'but we have a cash-flow problem at present'?
[13:53:12] <nick> you know shit is bad when an email sings off with: "I realise that my professional reputation has been very badly damaged [...] and accept you may not wish to work with me in the future I will completely understand if this is the case."
[13:47:31] <nick> lol
[13:47:16] <janrinok> as long as it's not any of that smutty, girly stuff....
[13:47:13] <nick> made some extra margin on some equipment i sold, and got an email regarding all the money and shit i'm owed from the festival season
[13:46:25] <nick> i have just had a really good morning, for a monday.
[13:45:49] <janrinok> go nick - er, why dancing? you're not in love are you?
[13:45:28] * nick is in a dancing mood today
[13:43:36] <Subsentient> ahh
[13:43:30] <janrinok> Subsentient: no you will have to start moving stories to fit one in usually
[13:43:12] <Subsentient> I couldn't find a perfect gap.
[13:43:05] <Subsentient> ahh
[13:43:01] <janrinok> Subsentient: you did set it for noon - but that was only 43 minutes before the next story went out.... ;-)
[13:42:18] <janrinok> Subsentient: your story was signed off by Az several hours ago
[13:42:16] <Subsentient> I tried to set it for noon
[13:42:10] <Subsentient> janrinok: It seems to have changed, or the timezone is displaying incorrectly
[13:41:41] <janrinok> Subsentient: Hi, congrats on your first live one! The timing was a bit off but no matter
[13:41:12] <TheMightyBuzzard> heh, dingus
[13:41:08] <Subsentient> I see it went live
[13:41:05] <Subsentient> nvm
[13:40:49] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: First True Bionic Hand 04(4 comments)
[13:40:48] <Subsentient> https://soylentnews.org
[13:40:48] <Subsentient> janrinok: Care to sign off on my first story? :^D
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[13:10:26] <nick> good morning/afternoon/evening #editorial
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[11:40:12] <Azrael> ooooo congrats Subsentient
[11:37:35] <Subsentient> Set to show at noon
[11:37:33] <Tachyon> good for you!
[11:37:28] <Subsentient> :^D
[11:37:25] <Subsentient> The bionic hand one!
[11:37:23] <Tachyon> hm?
[11:37:16] <Subsentient> I just submitted my first story! :^D
[11:37:09] <aqu4> xlefay NCommander mrcoolbp Loggie SkyNet
[11:37:09] <aqu4> aqu4 Tachyon Azrael TheMightyBuzzard Subsentient Hedonismbot juggs chromas Bender paulej72
[11:37:09] <Subsentient> $pageall
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