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[21:25:15] <Bytram> and, especially, thanks for the feedback earlier on how to handle that article. excellent feedback!
[21:24:57] <Bytram> n1: have a good day/night, my friend! As always, nice chatting with ya!
[21:24:32] * Bytram is tired; am gonna take a nap.
[21:23:51] <Bytram> no wonder English is a difficult language to learn!
[21:23:35] <Bytram> ditto for: sub, hoagie, italian sandwich, and hero being all the same kind of thing.
[21:23:06] <Bytram> and don't get me started on the differences between soda, tonic, 'coke', soft drink and the like all meaning the exact same thing!
[21:22:24] <Bytram> when I was on a project in England, 'chips' were *slices* of potatoes; in the US 'chips' were tiny-thin slivers of potatoes that had been deep fried until crisp.
[21:21:23] <n1> yup, good plan
[21:21:17] <Bytram> ;)
[21:21:07] * Bytram suggests heating before eating
[21:20:58] <Bytram> ah.
[21:20:55] <n1> potato wedges
[21:20:46] <Bytram> of cheese, maybe?
[21:20:39] <Bytram> wedges?
[21:20:19] <n1> frozen breaded chicken and wedges
[21:20:06] <n1> not far off what im going to be having
[21:16:49] * Bytram keeps a bag of frozen chicken nuggets in the freezer for just such an occasion
[21:14:14] <n1> so hungry
[20:48:42] * Bytram is not so good at first things first.
[20:48:29] <n1> same
[20:48:27] <Bytram> it's nearly 4pm here
[20:48:18] <Bytram> though I know it's important to eat regularly to keep my spirits up, I always seem to find something to distract me until it's early in the afternoon!
[20:48:11] <n1> and i had a snack about 5pm
[20:48:05] <n1> well it's nearly 9pm here
[20:47:43] <Bytram> nod nod; /me just finished having [a very late] breakfast
[20:47:09] <n1> so i need water and food first
[20:47:02] <n1> but i havnt actually eaten properly yet today
[20:46:55] <n1> cool, i'll be doing some stories soon
[20:46:25] * Bytram just hit submit on a story so the queue isn't quite so empty.
[20:45:17] * Bytram shivers at the 'coincidence'
[20:44:43] <n1> from the song i was just listening to: 'these are tough times, but we seek solace in our friends and co-conspirators, we make small differences in each others lives and dream we can make real progress'
[20:43:57] <Bytram> how does it go? "Good judgement comes from experience -- experience comes from poor judgement."
[20:43:11] <Bytram> balancing things is what makes life worthwhile
[20:42:38] <n1> mhmm
[20:41:21] <Bytram> though, that said, I do appreciate being able to pay my rent!
[20:41:03] <Bytram> much more important that trying to sell some shiny bauble to someone to earn my pay
[20:40:28] <Bytram> and, of course, the even better part is that I can try and do the same for them!
[20:40:13] <Bytram> helps me stay grounded
[20:40:10] <Bytram> if I'm out-of-sorts, they'll pick up on it and try and help me find out what's going on.
[20:39:50] <Bytram> yuppers! no matter what else happens, they've seen me at my best (and worst) and know me very well.
[20:39:22] <n1> keeps priorities in order a little better
[20:39:12] <n1> better to plan your week around something good
[20:38:46] <Bytram> I plan my week around that; helps me keep the rest of my life on a solid foundation
[20:37:56] <n1> thats good you're able to do that
[20:37:36] <Bytram> nothing special; we just get together each week to catch up on things and talk about life and such.
[20:37:03] <n1> anything good planned with your friends?
[20:36:57] <Bytram> nod nod
[20:36:51] <n1> sounds good, weekends are a bit antiquated these days
[20:35:42] <Bytram> a bit of a break from the ol' grind... yesterday was my 'friday' -- got a good night's sleep and am planning on catching a nap before heading out to meet with some friends this pm.
[20:35:00] <n1> how is your day, Bytram?
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[20:30:30] <Bytram> janrinok: have a good evening! It's been a pleasure, as always!!
[20:30:11] <janrinok> well, good luck with that, and I'm afraid I must leave. Cheers to you both
[20:29:47] <n1> now i do need to send an email to my least favorite client
[20:29:35] <n1> but this is looking good anyways
[20:28:36] <n1> something like that heh
[20:27:17] <janrinok> you'll be able to listen to one festival while you dismantle the other.....
[20:26:52] <n1> i thought it was going to be 200 or so
[20:26:47] <n1> that made my day
[20:26:41] <Bender> woop woop woop (\/) (;,,;) (\/)
[20:26:41] <Bytram> !woop
[20:26:37] <n1> so thats cool
[20:26:32] <n1> only 60 miles
[20:26:28] <n1> it's not so bad!
[20:26:26] <n1> oh actually
[20:26:06] <Bytram> that would make it too easy!
[20:25:51] <n1> i dont think so
[20:25:35] <Bytram> are they anywhere near each other?
[20:25:35] <n1> then go back to the second one before it finishes
[20:25:18] <n1> then go back to the first one to remove all the equipment and such from that
[20:25:05] <n1> so it's a setup one festival, couple days downtime, travel to the next festival and set that up
[20:24:53] <janrinok> sod's law or something
[20:24:41] <n1> as of course they would
[20:24:37] <n1> got two festivals that overlap by a couple days
[20:24:30] <n1> hence may being very busy
[20:24:18] <n1> and yeah, festivals in the spring
[20:24:09] <n1> getting to know the right people and such
[20:24:01] <janrinok> sounds good, as Bytram said
[20:23:58] <Bytram> quite the balancing act
[20:23:58] <n1> so not making the big bucks, but things are heading in the right direction
[20:23:43] <n1> the mix between expansion and diversifying whilst also investing to enable all that to happen
[20:23:32] <Bytram> n1: hey! that's GREAT news!
[20:23:29] <janrinok> and your next festival will be in the Spring?
[20:23:24] <Bytram> back
[20:23:00] <n1> pretty good right now
[20:22:44] <janrinok> how's the business going at the moment?
[20:22:08] <n1> I really dont mind, he's the best client ive ever had so I wasn't worried about it.
[20:21:29] <janrinok> OK - that's the decent thing to do
[20:21:11] <n1> but he since text and emailed me back with many apologies
[20:20:59] <n1> but other things came up for him, his own meetings with investors and such.
[20:20:43] <n1> asked me to call half hour before, and no answer - meeting was arranged 2 weeks ago
[20:20:21] <n1> which isnt the end of the world because i had a lot to get done
[20:20:20] <janrinok> no show?
[20:20:09] <n1> was supposed to have a meeting with a client but didn't happen
[20:19:50] <n1> just a lot of work really
[20:15:43] <janrinok> I'll soon have to call it a day for today. Anything good in particular happen to you today?
[20:12:55] <janrinok> it doesn't matter how many times I watch it - I always end up laughing. And there is always something new happening in the background
[20:12:21] <n1> M.A.S.H is a great show
[20:11:39] <janrinok> yep - she's watching TV and even laughing at M.A.S.H
[20:11:28] <n1> everything going well over there?
[20:11:16] <n1> thats good
[20:11:00] <janrinok> my financial advisor is already in bed in the next room - but she's had a good day
[20:10:38] <n1> although it looks like may is going to be very damn busy
[20:10:20] <n1> yeah, things are working out it seems
[20:10:10] <janrinok> it must be a good omen
[20:09:52] <n1> and he's the one supposed to stop me doing it!
[20:09:47] <janrinok> everything going good?
[20:09:43] <n1> convincing me to spend more money
[20:09:35] <janrinok> np ;)
[20:09:33] <n1> was an hour long call with my business partner
[20:08:58] <n1> im here now
[20:08:29] <janrinok> there appears to be a good 30 minutes time lag between comments. You need to get your router fixed...
[20:06:54] <n1> yeah, busy good
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[19:47:51] <Bytram> afk brb
[19:47:46] <Bytram> janrinok: ok, stories are merged and my dupe has been marked to NOT display. Excellent catch!!!!!!
[19:45:27] <janrinok> a busy day but was it a good day?
[19:43:50] <janrinok> np nick
[19:43:38] * janrinok wonders whether to wait half an hour to reply, decides that is cruel
[19:43:08] <n1> been a busy day today
[19:43:04] <n1> sorry, on phone
[19:33:15] <janrinok> that conversation wasn't up to your usual standard, n1
[19:20:24] <janrinok> hi nick
[19:19:48] <n1> ahoy janrinok
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[17:52:58] <n1> i need to figure out this headache
[17:52:50] <n1> i just dropped the ball on a specification and planning for an important job ¬_¬
[17:52:30] <n1> awesome, i'll take a look in a bit
[17:52:07] <Bytram> thanks a LOT for your feedback!
[17:52:01] <Bytram> n1: I was able to chat w/ janrinok and clarify his thoughts on the NSA2 article. ended up just adding a paragraph from c0lo's submission, added a little perspective to AnonTechie's submission, and made some minor spelling, etc. tweaks.
[16:49:03] <n1> har har
[16:44:43] <Bytram> =)
[16:44:36] <Bytram> n1: you can do that yourself: /nick lunch
[16:41:07] <n1> can someone make me lunch?
[16:25:11] <Bytram> the intercept is important -- will keep it in.
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[16:24:55] <Bytram> ciao for now!
[16:24:51] <Bytram> my viewpoint is: as a reader of the story, what does this bring to me that I haven't seen before.
[16:24:50] <janrinok2> got to go now - cu later
[16:24:22] <Bytram> I agree.
[16:24:07] <janrinok2> The 2 important bits from Anontechie are the mail intercept, and the fact that it has been done before with an Oracle CD
[16:24:02] <Bytram> I just "did not know" what it was and didn't want to leap to a conclusion.
[16:23:26] <Bytram> and from *your* feedback! I knew i was missing *something*!
[16:23:04] <Bytram> oh, we've still got a couple hours before it goes live. no problem then.
[16:22:59] <janrinok2> go ahead and thx, it was worth discussing it. It will only benefit from your editing
[16:22:34] <Bytram> hmmm, can't do that w/o editing the story, tho.
[16:22:09] <Bytram> I think for the time being, I'm going to swap the order of that story with the next to get some more time to reflect on it.
[16:21:44] <Bytram> thanks... I'm speechless.
[16:21:20] <janrinok2> exactly - you put that well (You should be an editor!)
[16:21:00] <Bytram> I gu3ess if it were easy, then it wouldn't mean so much, eh?
[16:20:40] <Bytram> not knowing can be a curse or a blessing -- mostly depends on how I look at things -- and yet it is still hard.
[16:20:33] <janrinok2> go ahead with the changes - I've got to go soon as I said
[16:20:06] <janrinok2> But we may have many years left together or not - no-one knows. So one day at a time and keep smiling!
[16:19:55] <Bytram> and maybe bold the part from AnonTechie referencing the USPS?
[16:19:42] <Bytram> I'm thinking maybe just add the 2nd blockquoted part from colo's story so that it's more than just a one-loine reference.
[16:19:21] <janrinok2> thx - I keep thinking I have readied myself but I'm just fooling myself if I'm honest
[16:18:59] <Bytram> thanks to our discussion, I have a very differnet view on the story.
[16:18:43] <janrinok2> The nurse is due anytime - in fact I might have just heard her car arrive
[16:18:41] <Bytram> that has to be very hard to watch -- my heart goes out to you.
[16:18:15] <janrinok2> I've got to go in a few minutes but I will not be offended if you pull the story or decide it is not presented properly. S is in the slow decline of MS but is having a relatively good day, for her.
[16:17:37] <Bytram> how's S doing?
[16:17:32] <Bytram> laughter is good for the soul.
[16:17:08] <Bytram> LOL!!!!!
[16:17:02] <Bytram> ;)
[16:17:01] <janrinok2> triple it - I can cope
[16:16:54] <Bytram> I'll double your pay!
[16:16:39] <janrinok2> yep - that why we get paid so much, or would get paid in there was anyone being paid at all :)
[16:16:37] * Bytram reads the news these days with an entirely different perspective than he used to!
[16:16:09] <Bytram> and THAT is the challenge!
[16:15:34] <janrinok2> It depends on how you want to show the story, or what one thinks _is_ the story
[16:15:30] <Bytram> nograb
[16:15:26] <Bytram> I meant my brain, not the kbd
[16:15:09] <Bytram> LOL -- I sit on mine. =)
[16:14:56] <Bytram> in light of the reference to the CDs being 'hacked' while in the USPS, that makes me rethink my thoughts on AnonTechie's submission
[16:14:55] <janrinok2> brain - keyboard disconnect
[16:14:43] <janrinok2> *read TFLink
[16:14:27] <Bytram> nod nod
[16:14:13] <janrinok2> It will all depend on whether people actually TFLink rather than just skim our summaries. But if they don't read it then the whole thing will fall apart anyway. As I say, there are 4 pages there
[16:13:58] <Bytram> too many abstractions, references, and sources -- never mind the subject material and trying to put it into understandable english prose!
[16:12:52] <Bytram> nah, you did very well -- merging two stories is difficult enough... trying to get three merged together is insane
[16:12:21] <Bytram> I can see striking c0lo's first blockquote as it's big and verbatim from Ars...
[16:11:56] <janrinok2> Perhaps I didn't do a very good job :0 Pull the story if you think it is not right
[16:11:34] <Bytram> yuppers
[16:11:24] <janrinok2> True - my title was trying to show the link to NSA rather than the content of the ars technica story which we have already published this morning.
[16:11:00] <Bytram> hmmm
[16:10:58] <Bytram> but I see that it is worthy of mention in this story.
[16:10:34] <Bytram> Yet, that was in the original Ars story, too.
[16:10:23] <Bytram> I agree.
[16:10:02] <janrinok2> *were changed
[16:09:38] <janrinok2> The fact that AnonTechies story shows that the CD's we changed in 'the postal system' suggests that a very powerful hand was behind this particular malware.
[16:08:34] <Bytram> I certainly understand that and agree with the sentiment that including as many submissions as possible is desirable.
[16:08:16] <janrinok2> I didn't want to express it as such as it might bias the subsequent discussions
[16:07:39] <janrinok2> I was trying to give all 3 submitters some credit for their work while, to me, equally interesting is the 'alleged' links to NSA. I say alleged because Kaspersky is Russian and might be coerced into the story slant it has chosen.
[16:06:02] <Bytram> was wondering what that added to this story?
[16:05:46] <Bytram> doesn't reference anything else
[16:05:34] <Bytram> AnonTechie's submission seemed to be just a different synopsis of the same Ars story we first ran.
[16:05:31] <janrinok2> go ahead
[16:05:20] <janrinok2> but it doesn't go out for a while yet - feel free to change it if you wish. That's why more than one ed should see each release
[16:05:16] <Bytram> while I ponder on *that*, there's something else...
[16:05:03] <Bytram> that puts it in a different light.
[16:04:49] <Bytram> k
[16:04:46] <Bytram> ahhh.
[16:04:39] <janrinok2> yep, but I followed them and found that some were circular reporting - i.e. linking back to the same origins
[16:04:25] <Bytram> but, it was late at night and I don't remember *everything* I read. =)
[16:04:10] <Bytram> yes. I read the story before it got to our site.
[16:03:59] <janrinok2> There are 4 pages to that story
[16:03:56] <Bytram> he also had references to a number of other sources and I must have assumed that his details were taken, at least in part, from the others, as well.
[16:03:27] <Bytram> ahhhh, I see it now.
[16:03:15] <janrinok2> just below the map picture is the list of techniques
[16:03:00] * Bytram waits for his slow internet connection to load the ars story
[16:02:28] <janrinok2> its a judgement call I suppose. Would you have left it in?
[16:02:08] <janrinok2> c0lo's description of the techniques was taken directly from one of the links - namely the ars technica story. I didn't feel that repeating it was necessary.
[16:02:01] * Bytram reloads ars story
[16:01:54] <Bytram> maybe I missed something there.
[16:01:42] <Bytram> =)
[16:01:41] <Bytram> permanent press needs to be removed promptly from the dryer.
[16:01:18] <Bytram> back
[15:59:16] <janrinok2> *pause while
[15:57:28] <janrinok2> c0lo's details are taken from the linked material - but I'll pause why you get your washing...
[15:57:05] <Bytram> let me think for a moment.. and I gotta fetch my laundry. :/
[15:56:47] <Bytram> hmmm,
[15:56:43] <Bytram> 11:54 article (let's call it NSA1) was a high-level summary, to my eyes. This submission was much more detailed and informative.
[15:56:23] <janrinok2> but they are all in the linked material - something had to go because there are 3 stories in one there. I didn't feel that repeating the links was necessary. Feel free to change it if you wish
[15:55:36] <Bytram> yes, all of these are. What I saw in c0lo's submission was a wonderful summary of all the various techniques that were employed that I did not see in the 11:54 article
[15:54:48] <janrinok2> and they are both about the 'Equation Group' - nicht war?
[15:54:11] <Hedonismbot> ^* 0304SN Submission by c0lo: The newly discovered "Equation Group" deemed as the top world hackers
[15:54:11] <Bytram> and here's c0lo's submission: https://soylentnews.org
[15:53:50] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article: The Most Advanced Hacking Operation ever Uncovered 04(20 comments)
[15:53:50] <Bytram> I'm not seeing it? Here's that story: https://soylentnews.org
[15:53:38] <janrinok2> that is why I replaced his submission with a link to the story that has already gone out
[15:52:53] <janrinok2> yes, but most of that was/is in the story that went out at 11:54 UTC
[15:52:39] <Bytram> I figured it may have been a cut-n-paste accidental-overwrite kind of thing.
[15:52:22] <Bytram> I saw a reference to c0lo's submission, but it was only a couple sentences in this story, but his submission goes into great detail.
[15:51:01] <janrinok2> is there something in particular that you feel was missed?
[15:50:35] <janrinok2> I didn't think that I had left anything major out although I didn't want to repeat it all just to be sure
[15:50:10] <Bytram> it *is* exceedingly difficult to keep track of everything.
[15:49:49] <janrinok2> Yes, I had to think quite a bit about editing that story - with earlier links, repeated content and what have you
[15:49:37] <Hedonismbot> ^* 0304SN Submission by c0lo: The newly discovered "Equation Group" deemed as the top world hackers
[15:49:37] <Bytram> here's c0lo's submission: https://soylentnews.org
[15:49:04] <Bytram> yes
[15:49:03] <Bytram> otoh, c0lo's submission seems to have been mostly lost on its way into the story.
[15:49:00] <janrinok2> you mean one of the three?
[15:48:39] * Bytram is glad to hear it!
[15:48:31] <Bytram> one of the submitters was basically providing a different synopsis of the original Ars article -- didn't look like it added much to the new story
[15:48:25] <janrinok2> ... so I'm trying Ubuntu 14.04 MATE deskto and, currently, I am very pleased
[15:48:00] <Bytram> I was looking at the update story on the NSA and noticed a couple things.
[15:47:57] <janrinok2> I've tried PC-BSD but I have found too many things that I cannot do for the time being
[15:47:40] <janrinok2> I'm just setting up another box
[15:47:30] <janrinok2> np
[15:47:26] <Bytram> thanks for asking!
[15:47:22] <Bytram> oh, *that* -- back to normal.
[15:46:56] <janrinok2> good to hear - are you completely recovered or just 'better'
[15:46:43] <Bytram> you?
[15:46:41] <Bytram> much better after a good night's sleep!
[15:46:26] <janrinok2> hi Bytram how's things?
[15:46:12] <Bytram> janrinok2: hiya!
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[15:41:16] <Bytram> I'm going to strike it out.
[15:41:08] <Bytram> that's the one with the 'tid' problem, but yeah.
[15:40:55] <n1> as long as there is a link to the previous story
[15:40:54] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:40:48] <n1> if it's redundant information, it doesnt need to be there
[15:39:27] <Bytram> I don't like doing that, but it really doesn't add much new to the story -- in essence it's just a different synopsis.
[15:38:56] <Bytram> that's what I was thinking...
[15:38:46] <n1> remove it then?
[15:38:32] <Bytram> i.e. doesn't reference anything new.
[15:38:08] <Bytram> n1: it seems that one of the merged stories is basically a different summary/extract of the original 'equation group' Ars Technica story that we ran with yesterday.
[15:37:06] <Bytram> dx3bydt3_: thanks for the info!
[15:36:51] <dx3bydt3_> FYI a story I submitted (currently in pending "Unexplained Haze Over Mars" ) was also submitted by tonyPick with the title "Massive Martian Plume Mystery" He's got at least one link in there that I didn't include.
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[15:36:09] <Bytram> hi SoyGuest28505
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[15:35:43] <Bytram> hmmm, AnonTechie's submission is taken from the same, Ars article referenced in our first NSA story on the 'Equation Group'
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[15:24:44] <Bytram> =)
[15:24:41] <Bytram> duplicate tab in PaleMoon allows me to keep one version, and make a duplicate that I can work from
[15:24:06] <Bytram> AHA!!!!!!!
[15:20:47] * Bytram wishes we had version control on story editing
[15:20:06] <Bytram> hey! good luck on your meeting!
[15:19:57] <Bytram> back
[15:16:42] <n1> if i wasn't trying to do a million things at once right now i'd have a crack at it
[15:16:27] <n1> always try to help
[15:16:20] <n1> any time
[15:15:26] <Bytram> thanks for the feedback!
[15:15:20] <Bytram> anyway, I'm gonna ponder on what to do with the story. need to step away for a few minutes.
[15:14:59] <Bytram> hey, it is what it is. I've got some really nice repeat customers who are always so happy to see me, and I need to keep my focus on *that* instead of mgmt pressures to sell stuff and meet goals.
[15:14:14] <n1> :(
[15:14:13] <n1> that doesnt sound too good
[15:14:08] <Bytram> I prolly saw it but didn't register through the sleep deprivation. ;/
[15:13:46] <Bytram> nod nod
[15:13:41] <Bytram> I know I've been struggling for the past few months with work pressures, extended work hours (and variously extra early or extra late hours) as well as all the snow and cold we've had this winter.
[15:13:25] <n1> i tried not to go missing, i did inform mrcoolbp and lamx i wasn't going to be around for a month
[15:12:51] <Bytram> I recall we'd had a couple long chats a while back and, when friends go missing for a while, it can be difficult.
[15:12:28] <n1> from my most unvacation like vacation
[15:12:13] <n1> it's good to be back
[15:12:06] <n1> thanks :)
[15:11:43] <Bytram> more importantly, so good to see you back in the saddle over here!
[15:10:24] * Bytram and fetches more coffee
[15:10:19] <n1> no disagreement there
[15:10:17] * Bytram ponders
[15:10:06] <Bytram> also much more work. :/
[15:10:00] <Bytram> that would be *ideal*, yes.
[15:09:49] <n1> or something like that
[15:09:47] <Bytram> as it now stands, it seems to me the story would read better w/o c0lo being mentioned at all.
[15:09:46] <n1> and then cherrypick the best bits into a readable format
[15:09:37] <n1> the way i would do it is, "AnonTechie, aqui and c0lo write with updates to a previous story"
[15:09:15] <Bytram> my thoughts are to put the c0lo stuff in the intro copy, and the other two subs into the extended copy
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[15:08:04] <Bytram> mostly cause c0lo's stuff got chopped out.
[15:07:49] <n1> because it's not an easy read at the moment
[15:07:41] <n1> when theyve been like that?
[15:07:36] <Bytram> we still have 3.5 hrs before this story goes live.
[15:07:06] <Bytram> we've gotten some very positive feedback from community on the multi-author stories on the front page, though.
[15:06:40] <Bytram> *understatement*
[15:06:33] <n1> but thats going to take some work
[15:06:29] <n1> it would be better if all the submissions were merged into one, to make it an easy read
[15:06:22] <Bytram> lemme think for a sec
[15:06:05] <Bytram> good idea.
[15:06:02] <Bytram> yeah, hence my poking in here to get feedback.
[15:05:58] <n1> delay the story so we have more thinking time?
[15:05:44] <n1> not sure really where to go with this
[15:05:36] <Bytram> yes, by FAR!
[15:05:28] <n1> indeed
[15:05:25] <n1> there is more stuff in there than the original summary
[15:05:24] <Bytram> no 'meat' on that one.
[15:05:13] <Hedonismbot> ^* 03SN article: The Most Advanced Hacking Operation ever Uncovered 04(20 comments)
[15:05:13] <n1> hmm
[15:05:13] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[15:04:58] * Bytram goes to look at the earlier story
[15:04:48] <Bytram> did you look at his submission?
[15:04:44] <n1> it's more like an update story than a new one and the c0lo part is the previous story reference
[15:04:22] <Bytram> oh? hmmm...
[15:04:12] <n1> c0lo submission is basically a dupe is the way i took it
[15:03:58] <Bytram> c0lo writes offering a story that was published here only a few hours ago:
[15:03:57] <Bytram> The newly discovered "Equation Group" deemed as the top world hackers
[15:03:57] <Bytram> all I see is:
[15:03:30] <Bytram> so, c0lo's part of the story is a one-sentence intro... to nothing?
[15:02:57] <n1> i'll try to remember that
[15:02:50] <n1> i would just fix the link and leave it at that
[15:02:40] <Bytram> when there's a link to a story/comment on SN, need to get it correct in the editing window and then: SAVE IT WITHOUT PREVIEW
[15:02:05] <Bytram> yuppers, that's what I took it to be, too.
[15:01:45] <Bytram> I've got that fixed in the copy I'm editing.
[15:01:42] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03SN article: The Most Advanced Hacking Operation ever Uncovered 04(20 comments)
[15:01:42] <n1> i am assuming the link is supposed to be: https://soylentnews.org
[15:01:36] <Bytram> &tid=nnnn gets mangled
[15:01:20] <Bytram> known prob with the editing software
[15:01:09] <n1> but the link is broken
[15:01:04] <n1> well it seems that it was intentional
[15:00:26] <n1> hmmm
[14:59:40] <Bytram> was hoping janrinock would be here so I could ask him..
[14:59:27] <Bytram> I don't know whether that was an accidental cut-n-paste overwrite of the submission as the three stories got merged, intentional, or what.
[14:57:55] <Hedonismbot> ^ 0304SN Submission by c0lo: The newly discovered "Equation Group" deemed as the top world hackers
[14:57:54] <Bytram> and here's c0lo's submission: https://soylentnews.org
[14:57:25] <Hedonismbot> ^ 03Error
[14:57:24] <Bytram> https://soylentnews.org
[14:57:08] <Bytram> just a sec and I'll get a link
[14:57:01] <Bytram> looks like the submission part from colo is missing?
[14:56:49] <n1> problems?
[14:56:42] <Bytram> I was looking at the NSA story that is about to go live...
[14:56:34] <n1> i was expecting to not be here, waiting for a call back on a meeting thats supposed to be happening in 5minutes
[14:56:18] <Bytram> LOL!
[14:56:06] <n1> just about
[14:55:52] <Bytram> is there an editor in the house?
[14:53:29] <Bytram> g'morning everyone!
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