#editorial | Logs for 2014-08-27
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[01:27:11] <mrcoolbp> could just rearrange queu also
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[12:55:04] <Bytram> http://feedproxy.google.com
[12:55:07] <monopoly> ^ 03Time Warner Cable suffers massive outage nationwide - CNET ( http://www.cnet.com )
[12:55:13] <Bytram> http://go.theregister.com
[12:55:14] <monopoly> ^ 03Boffins set out to prove UNIVERSE IS JUST A HOLOGRAM • The Register ( http://www.theregister.co.uk )
[13:43:58] <Bytram> Blackmoore: ping!
[13:48:19] * Bytram dons fireproof suit
[13:48:34] <Bytram> I just pushed http://soylentnews.org into the queue; needs a review!
[13:48:34] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Close 04(/stats.soylentnews.org/piwik/"; comments):
[13:55:44] <Blackmoore> pong
[13:57:28] <Blackmoore> wassup Bytram ?
[14:03:02] <Bytram> I pt your story up to go out... get your flameproof suit on.
[14:03:14] <Bytram> scheduled for about 4 hours from
[14:03:15] <Bytram> now
[14:03:18] <Bytram> can't talk atm
[14:08:29] <Blackmoore> AH ok - thanks for the warning
[14:24:21] <Bytram> Blackmoore: I adjusted the wording a "bit". can you see stories in the queue?
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[14:48:22] <Blackmoore> apparently not in the live system.
[14:48:43] <Blackmoore> I'm on pipedot right now and the situation is evolving. (for the better)
[14:51:00] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore, the story is in the queue, but I'll probably gut it in a minute
[14:52:08] <Blackmoore> good.
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[14:52:50] <janrinok> hi guys - has anyone else been having IRC connectivity problems today? I've been getting connection refused for over 6 hours.
[14:53:46] <Blackmoore> pipedot has removed all of the SN articles and comments. and posted a article about it
[14:54:06] <Blackmoore> janrinok: seems to be working here; but then i havent logged out
[14:55:35] <janrinok> Hi Blackmoore - thx for that - I've no idea why it was unavailable for such a long period of time. Nothing has changed at this end. How are you, long time no speak.
[14:56:54] <janrinok> Blackmoore: Pipedot found that no-one was commenting on the SN stories so it became counter-productive to display them, however, Bryan is have a similar problem to ourselves. Not enough submissions.
[15:06:10] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: yeah, it's tough
[15:06:35] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: I have a story I'm going to write for about 17:00 UTS
[15:06:36] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: hi to you! Not spoken to you for ages - you are well I hope?
[15:06:38] <mrcoolbp> UTC
[15:06:46] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: Oh I know right?
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[15:07:02] <mrcoolbp> I'm wicked tired (I know, I always say that), but I'm decent
[15:07:07] <mrcoolbp> how are you janrinok?
[15:07:16] <mrcoolbp> Bytram|away: I deleted your story = )
[15:07:39] <janrinok> same here. V tired because S is not well, but is recovering. It's been a difficult 3 weeks.
[15:07:42] Bytram|away is now known as Bytram
[15:07:59] <mrcoolbp> janrinok:
[15:08:03] <mrcoolbp> sorry to hear that
[15:08:22] <janrinok> thx - I'm afraid it is a sign of things to come for the future.
[15:08:41] <Blackmoore> janrinok: I kinda expected pipedot would have that as a problem. better if they grab the story and link back to our system and then meta comment (without our comments)
[15:09:05] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: I have a story I'm writing about the swag, I'm aiming for ~17:00 UTC, can you move the "Video Game Plan Mistaken..." up further in the future?
[15:09:06] <Blackmoore> Sorry to hear that too
[15:09:25] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: sure thing
[15:09:28] <mrcoolbp> thanks
[15:09:56] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: np; it looks like the mirrored stories got deleted from |. ??
[15:10:14] <mrcoolbp> yessir, hence the "delete"
[15:10:45] <Blackmoore> http://pipedot.org
[15:10:45] <monopoly> ^ 02Pipedot Article: 03 The experiment with feeding Soylent articles: your comments!02 (13 comments)
[15:11:34] <mrcoolbp> I spoke with bryan briefly last night, not sure if that had any impact on his decision to end that experiment
[15:11:46] <janrinok> I've got to agree with some of the comments from |. - I much prefer the tech stories than the other general news stories. I feel uncomfortable editing stories of general news because I do not know enough of the background to make meaningful judgements on the submissions.
[15:12:26] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: your 1700'ish slot is now free for use
[15:12:39] <mrcoolbp> thx
[15:12:44] * mrcoolbp get's to writing
[15:12:47] <Blackmoore> well janrinok that just mean i need to get up to speed. I have a bit of broader background
[15:13:25] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: did you play around with editing stories on dev yet?
[15:13:38] <Bytram> well! I had to reboot my box as my system was no longer noticing mouse or kbd activity... and it took a while to catch up!
[15:13:46] <janrinok> I'm interested in, say, the events in Ferguson, but am not current enough to spot errors in the submission, not fully conversant with all the twist and turns of the story.
[15:14:47] <janrinok> gtg for a while - bbl
[15:14:48] <Bytram> fwiw, I believe there is some thought being given to having a more 'technical' slant here and less of the 'political' and 'touchy/feely' stories, for the time being.
[15:15:30] <janrinok> Bytram: I would welcome that move - I seem to be missing much of the chat here by being away so much with my other committments.
[15:15:42] <Bytram> that is, if I read something (by NC?) correctly. Can't say for certain. OTOH, we're the voice of the community. if they want more tech stories, we need them to submit more of them, too.
[15:16:18] <Bytram> then, on the third hand, this *IS* the silly season. once the school year starts up, more research will start to get published and that should help a lot!
[15:16:50] <janrinok> agreed - but some of the stories have almost been personal opinion pieces which might provoke thought but can equally be used to bait people. Not my thing at all.
[15:17:14] <Bytram> btw, I'm personally more interested in the tech stuff, but I still learn things from reading the other material!
[15:17:29] <Bytram> janrinok: hmmm, good point!
[15:17:44] <janrinok> ditto - but I've really gtg at present. My nursing duty calls!
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[15:17:57] <Bytram> janrinok: cya, and give S a hug for me!
[15:25:04] <Blackmoore> mrcoolbp: just a touch. I hope to get back into dev later todya
[15:26:41] <mrcoolbp> Blackmoore: if you want to receive editor bits on production, just edit a story or two on dev (you could resubmit one of the submissions on prod) and make it like a real story so LamX can sign off on it. follow the story style guidelines, etc. Once he gives the okay, I can assign the editor bits
[15:36:17] <mrcoolbp> (I'm working on the swag story, ignore it for now, I'll pester someone when I'm ready for an editor signoff)
[15:41:04] <Woods> Wait what? Blackmoore is an editor now? I really need to pay more attention around here.
[15:41:37] * mrcoolbp likes to pull fast ones on Woods
[15:42:02] * Bytram notes that, officially, he's supposed to be a developer
[15:42:07] <Woods> I have a hunch that what was pulled was, in fact, a slow one.
[15:42:14] <Woods> I knew that part, :P
[15:43:25] <mrcoolbp> Woods: I think he was going to focus on the "Original Content" avenue, probably collaborating with Dopefish who has made a re-apperance (rather then be a day-to-day editor)
[15:44:11] <Woods> Ahhhh. Interesting. Maybe I can make it to a staff meeting some day too.
[15:44:38] <Blackmoore> or a slow one in this case. i'm taking too long to get up to
[16:32:43] <n1> chiming in a bit late here.... the issue with avoiding non-tech/science is the submissions are what they are, and the discussion resulting in the stories makes a difference too. Get 15 tech/sci submissions accepted and generate 10 or less comments on each, or get 5x that with a political/general interest story.
[16:33:19] <n1> If you're submitting stories in the hope of interesting discussion on the topic, submitting the hardcore science stuff that a lot of people want, often leaves very little room for participation.
[16:37:06] <Bytram> n1: I've seen that, too. OTOH (when I think to do so), it seems to help to ask in the story if there's someone who can 'translate' for the rest of us.
[16:37:26] * Bytram remembers there was a great exchange a while ago on a black hole story I posted.
[16:38:23] <Bytram> btw, I've pulled the 'veideo game plan' story ahead to go out in a few minutes to give the devs some more time to sort out subscription issues.
[16:38:52] <n1> In my opinion, the science/tech stories with few comments are essential, and they would be missed even if people don't comment. Having the general interest stories where everyone is able to have an opinion, keeps the community growing and gives everyone room to participate.
[16:39:56] <n1> I don't think anyone wants to see the political/general interest/world events stories taking over the site, but i think it would be a mistake not to run with them.
[16:40:22] <n1> This may be easier to deal with if we have a non-tech nexus that people who feel strongly about it can just disable.
[16:41:22] <mrcoolbp> n1: yeah, nexuses are ready-to-go but we are waiting on some business matters before we can enable them (we need wildcart certs, no easy task this is proving)
[16:42:28] <n1> It doesn't bother me, but I did make the point in the comments to a pipedot editor that you will have the option to lose the non-tech stuff soon.
[16:42:56] <n1> What's the issue with wildcard certs? (probably going to have to get some myself soon for another project)
[16:43:59] <Bytram> n1: yes, I think you summed it up well... though few comments, tech stories are important; trick is to find the right balance
[16:45:09] <mrcoolbp> okay, this is ready for some editors to tear apart: http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:10] <monopoly> ^ 04SN article 03 Close 04(/stats.soylentnews.org/piwik/"; comments):
[16:45:32] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: will do, but jost got a 502 and a 503
[16:45:37] <mrcoolbp> monopoly: that's a weird title
[16:45:51] <Bytram> okay... on my way
[16:49:22] <mrcoolbp> n1, Woods: are you guys working on some stories for 18:00 UTC and beyond?
[16:49:49] <mrcoolbp> Azrael ^
[16:50:03] <mrcoolbp> Story queue is dry after these meta posts run
[16:50:13] <n1> I will, i've been waiting/hoping for some better submissions...
[16:50:16] <mrcoolbp> (though we may need to shift them around again, just FYI)
[16:50:18] <Woods> Woah, I did not realize it was not caught up. I only have time to toss one up though
[16:50:36] <n1> Woods, if you can do one then i'll do some more after
[16:50:43] <Woods> Done.
[16:51:01] <Woods> Are you going to post that one at 1800, Mrcoolbp?
[16:51:23] <mrcoolbp> I think so, we are trying to figure out what's going on with the subscriptions
[16:51:28] <mrcoolbp> tech. difficulties
[16:51:36] <mrcoolbp> hence the possibility of rearrangement
[16:51:51] <Woods> Ugh, i see what you are saying n1...
[16:52:00] <mrcoolbp> don't worry about the timeing, I'll clean up the pacing if y'all can get some stories thrown up
[16:59:57] <Woods> Got one up for 17:51. I gotta go AFK for a bit
[17:00:52] <n1> i'll have another one ready any minute
[17:01:03] <n1> laters Woods :)
[17:02:20] <mrcoolbp> n1, I suggest throwing the 17:51 story at 18:45, then throwing yours around 20:15
[17:07:18] <n1> will do
[17:07:31] <Bytram> n1: got a minute? need someone to check links on the swag story; I've got a wicked slow connection.
[17:07:43] <Bytram> if you can do that I'll save what I've got ..
[17:07:47] <Bytram> actually, hold on
[17:08:13] <Bytram> n1: here you go: http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:14] <monopoly> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[17:10:59] <Bytram> nvm, I'm almost done
[17:11:15] <n1> the .co.au
[17:11:20] <n1> should be .com.au
[17:11:41] <Bytram> n1: really? I thought that was wrong... and 'fixed it' !! blegh!
[17:11:49] <n1> yeah, its confusing
[17:11:52] <n1> uk is .co.uk
[17:11:59] <n1> australia uses .com,au
[17:12:02] <n1> .com.au
[17:12:03] <n1> for some reason
[17:12:17] <n1> although we do now have .uk i think
[17:12:43] <Bytram> yup, .com.au worked. hmmm, would it be .co.de ??
[17:12:56] <n1> no
[17:12:57] <n1> just .de
[17:13:03] <Bytram> ugh!
[17:13:13] <Bytram> what else is .co.xx ??
[17:13:13] <n1> lol
[17:13:24] <n1> no other major countries
[17:13:41] <Bytram> argh! LOL!
[17:13:44] <n1> most are just .**
[17:13:46] <mrcoolbp> ROFL
[17:13:51] <n1> UK and AU are the major exceptions
[17:14:17] <n1> there are probably a couple others, but i just happen to have lived in au and uk, so im very aware of those ones
[17:14:32] <Bytram> n1: looks like you have it open; my *intent* was to verticalize the examples to show the variant part; can you please fix?
[17:16:34] <Bytram> n1: I would be happy to fix it myself; just don't want to step on any changes you made
[17:17:08] <n1> ok
[17:17:10] <n1> i'm doing it now
[17:17:53] <Bytram> btw, I just found this out a couple days ago...
[17:18:19] <Bytram> comments have a restricted set of HTML elements that they can use (checked against a white list)
[17:18:38] <Bytram> but, *stories* seem to be able to use whatever you want to put in there...
[17:19:13] <Bytram> I posted one on dev that had a table in it and could even set the border attribute on the table element. =)
[17:20:03] <mrcoolbp> feel free to throw a few more international examples up there, I can look at piwik and inform you on the liely candidates
[17:21:22] <Bytram> hmmm, at some point, we should prolly have a link in a 'slashbox' that points to a swag store page; there, we could have links to all the international flavors
[17:21:40] <mrcoolbp> I was thinking that too
[17:21:47] <Bytram> umm,, the slash store page being a *local* one to us, which in turn has links to all the variant intl' locations
[17:22:20] <n1> updated the international links
[17:22:44] * Bytram refreshes
[17:23:35] <Bytram> n1: did you try all those links?
[17:23:55] <Bytram> they *look* good from here
[17:23:56] <mrcoolbp> top visiting countries:
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> US 1005
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> UK 111
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> Canada 95
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> Australia 74
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> Germany 62
[17:23:57] <mrcoolbp> Netherlands 29
[17:23:58] <mrcoolbp> Sweden 24
[17:23:58] <mrcoolbp> New Zealand 23
[17:24:13] <n1> yeah i have
[17:24:23] <Bytram> n1: great!!!!!!!!!!
[17:24:51] <Bytram> I suppose we could add an example with .ca just to make it apparent... brb
[17:25:55] <mrcoolbp> that would hit the top 4
[17:26:02] <n1> ok
[17:26:05] <n1> i'll put that one in too
[17:26:17] <Bytram> n1: i've got it ready to save
[17:26:26] <mrcoolbp> wow, US all time is 112,173
[17:26:30] <mrcoolbp> cool
[17:26:42] <Bytram> n1: IOW, I've already made the change and just hit save.
[17:27:09] <mrcoolbp> n1 ^
[17:27:23] <Bytram> s/just hit/just need to hit/
[17:28:34] <n1> ive done it now
[17:28:37] <mrcoolbp> lol
[17:28:47] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: HEY! I wonder; I bet we could upload an image to go with the story!
[17:29:00] <n1> was trying to do it quickly so i can make a cup of tea and wish it was in a soylentnews mug :p
[17:29:07] <mrcoolbp> yeah, let me work one up Bytram
[17:29:19] <Bytram> I can just grab it from the swag site...
[17:29:39] <mrcoolbp> sec
[17:31:50] <mrcoolbp> Bytram: image "awaiting proccessing"
[17:31:57] * mrcoolbp added 2 by mistake
[17:31:59] <mrcoolbp> stand by
[17:32:23] <Bytram> yah, but I'm not sure what's next with that... also, I did not save my addition of .ca site; wasn't sure if n1 was still in there.
[17:32:54] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: let me know when you are done; then I'll go in and make sure we have the .ca link
[17:33:02] <mrcoolbp> it's in there
[17:33:15] <Bytram> ragu =)
[17:33:55] <Bytram> okay, I see the .ca link is there, too.
[17:34:11] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: but, I see no pic. :( ...
[17:34:16] <n1> i'm not seeing an image
[17:34:27] <mrcoolbp> yeah, it's waiting for proccessign?
[17:34:28] <Bytram> ISTR that themightybuzzard put up a pic on dev once... don't know what he did, tho
[17:34:53] <mrcoolbp> NCommander did it on production too, I'm not sure what "awaiting processing" means though
[17:35:17] <Bytram> no idea here. sry!
[17:37:14] <Bytram> mrcoolbp: swag story looks good.
[17:37:20] <Bytram> push it out whenever you want!
[17:37:23] <Bytram> gtg brb
[17:38:31] <mrcoolbp> k
[17:39:52] <mrcoolbp> thanks for the help guys
[17:40:11] <n1> np
[17:40:21] <n1> hey janrinok|afk
[17:40:52] janrinok|afk is now known as janrinok
[17:40:58] <janrinok> I'm back!
[17:41:03] <Bytram> hth!!!!!!
[17:41:10] <Bytram> {{ janrinok }}
[17:41:16] <janrinok> n1: how's things?
[17:41:41] <janrinok> thx Bytram
[17:41:46] <janrinok> ...it does
[17:41:51] <Bytram> my pleasure!
[17:42:25] <n1> janrinok, shall I add the source to the story you just did?
[17:42:34] <n1> It wasn't included in the submission i saw earlier, but i have found it
[17:42:46] <janrinok> the Canberra story - the link is there but you need to update it
[17:42:59] <n1> there it is
[17:43:01] <n1> :D
[17:43:03] <janrinok> the submitter left it out - I put it back in
[17:43:34] <n1> yeah, i nearly did that one instead of canada netflix, but i thought needed something between two 'health' stories
[17:44:23] <janrinok> lol - I'm not sure we always have that luxury with the low number of submissions
[17:45:07] <n1> indeed
[17:45:16] <janrinok> When this chan quieten downs a bit, I've got some more thoughts on the tech/general interest story problem
[17:45:29] <n1> as i mentioned earlier, ive been holding off today - waiting for better/more submissions
[17:46:51] <janrinok> I think that we might have lost some readers because of the departure from the tech site 'News for Nerds' theme - but I will have to find the figures to back that up. We are down to about a dozen submitters total now.
[17:48:00] <janrinok> my story list is showing neither the swag or subscription stories are released - is that intentional?
[17:48:39] <n1> I find it hard to believe, especially if these readers stuck with the old site for so long, and as far as im concerned we're still heavily focused on tech and i wouldn't want it any other way.
[17:48:56] * mrcoolbp runs the swag story
[17:49:08] <janrinok> well, as I say, I haven't got any figures to back it up.
[17:49:26] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: OK - thx, as long as it is in hand.
[17:49:50] <n1> I think it's hard to work it out, submitters will come and go, other priorities etc. If i recall AnonTechie stopped submitting for a couple weeks or so.
[17:50:46] <janrinok> yes, the holiday season seems to have changed the patterns of submissions and story topics. Perhaps it will change back again but when? I've no idea when the holiday season finishes...
[17:50:52] <n1> if we look at yesterday, i can't see what stories we shouldnt have used if we're avoiding general interest
[17:51:13] <n1> janrinok, start of next month i'd think
[17:51:22] <Bytram> ^^^
[17:53:15] <janrinok> I can access some stat pages by virtue of being an ed, but I can't seem to find one's that I would consider useful for analysing submission patterns or topics. Probably don't exist because everything goes out on the single nexus, although I suppose I could try to find how to sort by Topic.
[17:54:02] <janrinok> And I cannot remember when we last posted stories with 1 hour sep like we used to do,
[17:55:07] <n1> then we get in the quantity=/=quality debate
[17:55:39] <janrinok> true
[17:55:45] <Bytram> nod nod
[17:56:10] <n1> reading on pipedot, one user seems to be happy with one story a day, if it's good one.
[17:56:17] <n1> i don't think thats representative.
[17:56:47] <Bytram> agreed.
[17:56:57] <janrinok> it wouldn't attract me to a site, I can find better hit rates than that by stumbling ....
[17:57:06] <n1> also noting that the person who made the point on the Israel/Gaza story being non-tech, is an editor for pipedot.
[17:57:58] <n1> People have their own opinions, and i think it will be a lot easier when the community gets more control over the content they see.
[17:59:00] <janrinok> They will only have more control when they make submissions - I was hoping that my prompt yesterday about Regurgitator would improve the number of subs but it hasn't done so far.
[17:59:30] <n1> this is true, and thats the key more than anything
[17:59:35] <n1> we have to work with the submissions we get
[17:59:42] <janrinok> OFF TOPIC - is anyone else finding the site a little bit slower today?
[18:00:29] * Bytram is
[18:00:41] <n1> yeah, a little
[18:00:46] <n1> i also had a 503 earlier
[18:00:55] <janrinok> I was wondering if I had a tech problem - I couldn't access IRC for 6 hours earlier today.
[18:01:15] <Bytram> n1: yeah... debugging subscription implementation problems, methinks. I got a 502 and some 503s
[18:01:27] <janrinok> But I was getting connection rejected messages so I must have been getting to the server.
[18:01:48] <n1> IRC has been good afaik, this client has been connected since yesterday some time
[18:02:54] <janrinok> yes, if you stay connected it seems to have been OK, but reconnecting wasn't possible for a long time earlier - approx 6 hours for me.
[18:04:15] <Bytram> janrinok: oh, were you talking about SN (the site) or IRC?
[18:04:29] <janrinok> Damn - that swag is going to put a dent in my bank account, but there is no way I am not buying. I want t-shirts, polo shirts, mugs.....
[18:04:41] <n1> lol
[18:04:43] <janrinok> Bytram: IRC. I could reach the main site.
[18:05:01] <n1> i'm trying to decide what my first purchase will be
[18:05:03] <Bytram> oh. okay. I've not had any problems since I came on this AM.
[18:11:07] <janrinok> Bytram: I'm OK with IRC now but the site is certainly not its perky little self today.
[18:11:46] <Bytram> been kinda distracted... didn't really notice
[18:11:49] <janrinok> I've had to wait several seconds longer than usual for pages to update while editing - but there could be any number of reasons for that.
[18:15:01] <janrinok> Anyone got any idea on the last minute hitch for subscriptions. I assume that there is a sw problem somewhere?
[18:15:35] <mrcoolbp> yeah, issue that popped up and didn't appear when testing
[18:15:40] <Bytram> janrinok: "... the current issue is that when you go to subscirbe.pl then to messages.pl you do not see the message prefs until the memcache clears. If you hit it the other way all is well."
[18:16:36] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: Bytram thx - I blame the people responsible for testing. I think it is some guy named Marty or something like that....
[18:16:58] <mrcoolbp> hehewhehehe
[18:17:10] <n1> lol
[18:17:17] <Bytram> coulda been; didn't realize it was reeady for testing 'til it was almost go-live...
[18:17:35] <Bytram> also, didn't have a spare moment what with all the board meetings =)
[18:17:39] <janrinok> ah, here come the same old excuses..... lol
[18:17:46] <mrcoolbp> yeah seriously Bytram
[18:17:57] <Bytram> LOL! You guys are the BEST!
[18:19:45] <janrinok> Bytram: you do a bloody good job and you know it - plus you join us here and help edit. You've earned your place - but that doesn't mean we aren't going to mock you from time to time! :)
[18:20:12] <Bytram> would think less of you if you *didn't*!!
[18:20:16] <janrinok> ... or even mock you _all the time!
[18:21:13] * Bytram glances at http://soylentnews.org (with 133 stories and in 5th place)...
[18:21:13] <monopoly> ^ 03SoylentNews: Authors
[18:21:22] <janrinok> newb!
[18:21:31] <Bytram> help edit? *help*?
[18:21:37] <Bytram> Ha!
[18:22:03] * Bytram smiles i nyour general direction -- so there!
[18:22:04] <Bytram> =)
[18:22:05] <janrinok> Bytram: look out though, Woods is right behind you...
[18:22:17] <Bytram> nah, I just *passed* him a week ago!
[18:22:34] <janrinok> but he will not want to stay there
[18:22:37] <Bytram> now I'm creeping up on Azrael =)
[18:23:05] <Bytram> shhh! be vewy vewy kwiet... we're hunting wabbits.
[18:23:12] <janrinok> lol
[18:24:41] <janrinok> n1: you mentioned quantity/quality before. I note that, despite my profligate editing attempts, I've never had the best number of story hits! I'm just a space filler for you guys.
[18:26:10] <janrinok> time for tea - brb
[18:26:29] <n1> I think we're all roughly even on the hit:miss ratio
[18:26:38] <n1> tea sounds like a great idea
[18:29:52] <janrinok> I try to post stories that interest me, where possible, but they don't seem to be the most popular within the community. And sometimes I find that I rejected the story that ends up getting the best response.
[18:30:58] <Bytram> janrinok: yup! just when I *think* I know what they [don't] like, I get a big surprise!
[18:31:01] <Blackmoore> *shrug* as a submiter i just throw stuff at the wall and if it sticks - thats a win
[18:31:26] * n1 agrees with janrinok and Bytram
[18:31:33] <Bytram> Blackmoore: much appreciate the attitude! some are not so, ummm, accepting. :-P
[18:33:19] <n1> but not having a response doesn't really help, as i think most people want to see them still, even if they have nothing to say on it.
[18:33:57] <n1> if there's no comments, you will still be able to see the summary and rtfa without hitting the story page.
[18:34:03] <janrinok> n1: yes, but it would be nice to know that there is someone out there from time to time.....
[18:34:37] <n1> indeed, i'd like to read a good discussion on each story
[18:34:53] <n1> and it is frustrating when a story i have interest in doesn't generate that
[18:35:12] <janrinok> Good to hear the news about Dopefish - is it confirmed that he's back or just an idea that might come to pass? Anyone know?
[18:35:57] <janrinok> n1: yep - I've decided that I haven't enjoyed the holiday period because of the lack of community input
[18:36:08] <Bytram> btw, there are internal variables tracking "Logged-in-user page views" for each story... we get a glimpse of something along those lines when we look at the 'stories' page
[18:36:59] <janrinok> yes I know, but the pessimist in me reckons they a bots scraping our stories for other sites :)
[18:37:05] <Bytram> janrinok: likewise, but I also suspect that part of the reason for it is that people are, well, on holiday! They're just not checking in and/or commenting as much.
[18:37:17] <Woods> I found a typo on http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:17] <monopoly> ^ 03- SoylentNews User ( http://soylentnews.org )
[18:37:30] <Woods> Two actually, in the same sentence.
[18:37:50] <Woods> "Want to grant yourslef some subscription days? You're an admin, so gran as many as you want"
[18:37:52] <janrinok> hi again Woods - I'm not sure we acknowledged each other before...
[18:38:01] <Woods> Hi, hello!
[18:38:07] <Bytram> Woods: I've already submitted 4 bugs to github about subscriptions page
[18:38:08] <janrinok> you good?
[18:38:16] <Bytram> https://github.com
[18:38:18] <monopoly> ^ 03Issues · SoylentNews/slashcode · GitHub
[18:38:24] <Woods> Oh yeah, very good. How about you and the missus?
[18:38:32] <Bytram> Woods: hiya!
[18:38:36] <Woods> Oh, well look at you being all fancy Bytram.
[18:38:53] <Bytram> huh? what be fancy?
[18:39:02] <Woods> With your special little github
[18:39:05] <janrinok> Woods: ignore him, he's just pleased because he is doing well at present.
[18:39:52] <janrinok> Woods: we're OK but not better, but I won't go into the detail again or else everyone will leave the channel
[18:40:11] <janrinok> thx for asking though - much appreciated
[18:40:21] <Woods> Lol. Okay, fair enough. Maybe you guys just need some more tea.
[18:40:37] <janrinok> Just started a cup full, thx
[18:40:46] <Woods> Perfect.
[18:41:04] <Bytram> Woods: youse can do it, too! from the "Quick Links" slashbox: Found a bug? Report it on GitHub -- https://github.com
[18:41:05] <monopoly> ^ 03Sign in · GitHub ( https://github.com )
[18:41:43] <janrinok> Bytram is certainly in his 'dev' mode tonight.
[18:42:12] <Woods> Yes indeed he is.
[18:42:14] <Bytram> janrinok: yeah... devolving =)
[18:43:17] <Bytram> thanks for keeping me honest and on my toes... I appreciate the feedback!
[18:43:26] <janrinok> lol
[18:47:11] * janrinok wonders if he's every had a _favourite_ virus so that he could vote in the Poll. Decides he hasn't....
[18:47:47] <Bytram> btw, I've got mod points... let me know if you see any bad mods that need correcting.
[18:58:20] Bytram is now known as Bytram|afk
[19:06:27] <n1> heh
[19:06:38] <n1> janrinok submits stories faster than me :p
[19:06:44] <janrinok> n1: was that just a random heh?
[19:07:18] <janrinok> Ah. with you now
[19:07:21] <n1> i just did a submission and noticed you'd had the same idea
[19:07:41] <janrinok> You've just beaten me - I was about to post the 3D RAM story too
[19:08:16] <n1> hah
[19:09:29] <n1> great minds and all that...
[19:09:40] <n1> have company, back in a few.
[19:09:48] <janrinok> ok cu
[19:43:51] <janrinok> gtg - cu all tomorrow probably! Take care one and all!
[19:44:10] <Bytram|afk> janrinok: cya! have a good one!!!
[19:44:14] <Bytram|afk> janrinok++
[19:44:14] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 13
[19:44:21] <janrinok> thx
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[19:44:24] <Bytram|afk> janrinok++ so it's not unlucky
[19:44:24] <Bender> karma - janrinok: 14
[19:44:29] <Bytram|afk> that's better!
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