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[16:25:47] <janrinok> Hi Woods
[16:25:54] <janrinok> hi guys
[16:26:05] <Woods> Hi
[16:26:31] <Woods> Janrinok: You may check over the stories I have in the queue, when you get a minute.
[16:27:08] <janrinok> I'm just second checking your stories. The manual labourers one required a log-in to WSJ, at least for me, so I've marked it as such.
[16:29:45] <Woods> Good idea. I was unsure what I should do for that.
[16:30:12] <janrinok> A _lot_ of people do not like giving emails away.
[16:30:21] <Woods> I know, right?
[16:30:57] <janrinok> sry - how's things with you today?
[16:33:10] <janrinok> And I can't get anything from CBSNews links - other than their empty front page. When you do a story, see if you can find where the news outfit got their info from and try to link to that. They simply want you to pay for free news of harvest emails.
[16:33:33] <janrinok> *or harvest
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[16:46:49] <janrinok> hi n1
[16:46:52] <n1> hey janrinok
[16:46:58] <n1> how are things?
[16:46:58] <janrinok> hows things?
[16:47:00] <n1> heh
[16:47:27] <n1> things are ok here
[16:47:30] <janrinok> lol I'm good'ish, not perfect, but better than OK. And you
[16:48:18] <janrinok> I'm just reading your story about the antitrust being settled out of court. Damn, I wanted to watch them squirm. I even bought extra popcorn!
[16:48:31] <n1> i just think it's insane
[16:49:01] <janrinok> string 'em high!
[16:49:03] <n1> $3bn and the two statements than come out of it "we still believe we didn't do anything wrong or illegal [but don't trust the courts]."
[16:49:47] <n1> so they'll pay out $3bn for things they didnt do or if they did were perfectly legal and didn't affect employment opportunities for their employees
[16:50:05] <janrinok> yeah, right. You and I do that all the time....
[16:50:40] <janrinok> Hey, life is a lot easier with 4 eds or more active at once!
[16:51:02] <n1> it's been really nice to log on and not see the queue one story from being empty
[16:51:19] <janrinok> Now, we've got to work on the 24/7 cover worldwide....
[16:51:38] <janrinok> or the queue having been empty for the last 3 hours!
[16:52:07] <n1> only seen that once I think, but i'm sure you've seen it a good few times
[16:52:37] <n1> i had a thought on your Russia story, the 'Russia Leader' in the title really doesn't read right to me
[16:53:43] <janrinok> you could always add the 'n'
[16:53:54] <janrinok> or just make it Putin
[16:54:16] <n1> might just be me, but because it didn't say Putin, i assumed it was a a 'leader' who was anyone but Putin
[16:54:19] <janrinok> Hey, it's got an 'n'!
[16:54:25] <n1> lol
[16:54:31] <n1> -a
[16:54:59] <n1> if you put it in the context of any other country, it works even less
[16:55:08] <janrinok> I think that you lost me in the subtleties of that one....
[16:55:13] <n1> US Leader, British Leader etc
[16:55:52] <n1> I would say it should either be Putin or Russian President
[16:55:53] <janrinok> I don't see any problem with them, but I won't burst into tears if you change it
[16:56:19] <n1> it might just be me, im not saying it's wrong
[16:57:29] <n1> the title to me implies its just a wish of someone in russia who happens to have some power, like a 'community leader'7
[16:57:53] <janrinok> go ahead and change it - I really don't mind
[16:59:01] <n1> i've changed it to "Russia's President"
[16:59:05] <janrinok> I lived in Moscow for 3 years and the Pres is often refferred to as that, so its sounds quite natural to me.
[16:59:24] <janrinok> ooops sp
[16:59:31] <n1> that would explain it
[16:59:51] <n1> i dont think i've ever read it like that, just seems quite vague, i could see how internally it would be used though
[17:00:26] <janrinok> No, they describe other nations' leaders in the same way. It's just a pattern of speech I guess
[17:01:08] <janrinok> However, Queen Elizabeth and King Phillip we had to correct them for!
[17:01:21] <n1> thats where i find it gets confusing
[17:01:30] <n1> when you look at 'heads of state' vs 'heads of government'7
[17:02:12] <janrinok> such distinctions don't apply in many other countries - if you are the boss, you are the Boss!
[17:02:37] <n1> wikipedia implies it's a holdover from the soviet union, as 'Leader of the Soviet Union' was an official title
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[17:02:58] <n1> which was replaced by 'president' in 1991
[17:03:24] <janrinok> Well, as a result of the Revolution, which preceded the USSR by a wee bit, but close enough
[17:04:31] <janrinok> And during the French Revolution, 'Leader' was a recognised non-bourgouisee title (I can guarantee I've sp that one wrong!
[17:04:47] <janrinok> Yep, remove the second 'u'
[17:06:06] <n1> interesting, that's something I didn't know
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[17:06:45] <n1> i don't like the term but whatever, thats opinion
[17:07:18] <janrinok> mrcoo|coffee: enjoy your first coffee, savour it, let it clear your mind, calm your nerves - then get back to work!
[17:07:50] <n1> coffee sounds good
[17:08:00] <janrinok> n1: we even have Team Leaders.....
[17:08:16] <janrinok> ...but that's a bit radical in my book
[17:08:44] <mrcoo|coffee> janrinok = )
[17:09:03] <n1> i think they should be Team Scapegoats
[17:09:08] <n1> but thats just me :p
[17:09:19] <janrinok> rofl
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[17:10:19] <n1> think im going to do that coffee thing now
[17:10:20] <janrinok> hi mrcoolbp
[17:10:20] <n1> brb
[17:13:47] <mrcoolbp> hey janrinok
[17:13:56] <janrinok> hows things?
[17:21:23] * n1 yawns
[17:21:42] <janrinok> that coffee really helped n1?
[17:22:29] <n1> im just getting there :)
[17:22:46] <mrcoolbp> janrinok, it takes a minute, sorry
[17:22:56] <mrcoolbp> I'm just waking up
[17:23:04] <mrcoolbp> how are you?
[17:23:27] <janrinok> there you are being awesome on one channel and half asleep on this.... I'm good thx
[17:24:25] <mrcoolbp> duty calls
[17:24:58] <janrinok> cu later
[17:25:42] <mrcoolbp> oh I meant I was just trying to follow that convo in #Soylent
[17:26:03] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: how's the editor situation, are you guys habing any trouble keeping the queue filled up?
[17:37:26] <janrinok> srry was editing. No probs, we seem to have around 20 subs or more for the last 2 days (although some are crap) and with 4 eds it is a pleasure to work on them.
[17:37:52] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: ^^^
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[17:38:11] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: only 4 ?
[17:38:19] <mrcoolbp> oh lol do your thing = )
[17:38:27] <janrinok|afk> only 4 active at once!
[17:39:06] <janrinok|afk> mrcoolbp: we just have to get the 24/7 worldwide coverage bit sorted now!
[17:39:23] <mrcoolbp> ah
[17:39:25] <mrcoolbp> got it
[17:39:32] <janrinok|afk> rofl cu later
[17:40:04] <mrcoolbp> k
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[19:11:17] <mrcoolbp> CAlling all editors
[19:11:38] <mrcoolbp> n1, n1|away, Woods, janrinok|afk
[19:12:00] <Woods> Hai
[19:12:15] <mrcoolbp> Woods! hi, can you SAN-check this: http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:29] <Woods> Sure, quick question... What is this even talking about?
[19:13:43] <mrcoolbp> is it not obvious?
[19:13:53] <Woods> After the first paragraph, no.
[19:14:08] <mrcoolbp> okay, hold on, let me add an introduction
[19:14:33] <Woods> The title makes no sense to me, and does not convey any idea as to what it is. Could be a typo? "On"\ should be "of" maybe?
[19:16:05] <Woods> Oohhh, "Incorporation" by the second definition is to form a corporation... Okay, now it makes a lot more sense.
[19:17:47] <mrcoolbp> heh
[19:18:09] <mrcoolbp> okay, look at the general wording while I clean some other stuff up in there
[19:19:01] <Woods> k
[19:21:48] <Woods> The only spelling/grammer issue I saw was a missing period at the end of "Granite State sometime in the near future"
[19:24:55] <mrcoolbp> fixed, thanks, reload
[19:29:18] <Woods> I had something else, but the revision fixed it.
[19:30:17] <mrcoolbp> = )
[19:30:56] <Woods> I think it works.
[19:31:30] <Woods> A couple things may be lost on non-US peoples though. Mostly the "Live free, or die" bit.
[19:32:00] <n1> heh
[19:32:11] <mrcoolbp> Woods: thanks for the help
[19:32:16] <Woods> And "favourable" being in there, not sure which spelling he is going for.
[19:32:34] <mrcoolbp> Woods: http://wiki.soylentnews.org
[19:32:36] <Woods> Yup, that is all I got.
[19:32:55] <mrcoolbp> yeah I saw that too, fuck it, US/UK who cares...
[19:33:08] <Woods> Oh, I knew it was the motto, but others will be confused.
[19:33:24] <Woods> Like n1.
[19:33:29] <Woods> That fellow is always confused.
[19:33:33] <n1> shhh
[19:33:56] <Woods> Hehehe. Well anyway, a WSUS server is calling my name. I must be off! Let me know if it needs to be checked again.
[19:34:37] <n1> I agree though, from a UK perspective it's an unusual sentiment.
[19:35:12] <xlefay> Woods, I hope you'll still be sane tomorrow.
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[19:36:55] <Woods> Xlefay: I already got it up and running. My predecessor apparently had significant trouble with it though. (shrug)
[19:37:07] <mrcool|afk> Woods: the story is live thanks, gotta run!
[19:37:12] <xlefay> Woods, ;-)
[19:37:18] <n1> laters, mrcool|afk
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[19:43:09] <n1> wb janrinok
[19:48:10] <janrinok> Hey Hampshire! I like it.
[19:48:31] <janrinok> hi n1
[19:49:16] <n1> 'new' hampshire
[19:49:31] <n1> i was in the real hampshire yesterday :p
[19:49:36] <janrinok> so ours' is older - no matter
[19:50:02] <n1> i'm sure NH is nice
[19:50:33] <n1> probably better, hampshire is quite dull really.
[19:53:57] <n1> not feeling that inspired by the current submission list
[20:02:22] <janrinok> n1: good reply to snotnose regarding the failure to submit the story. I've just responded to the AC in the same thread.
[20:02:54] <janrinok> Time to do a submissions list prune....
[20:04:06] <janrinok> Now that the Nagger will appear, it might prod a few into action.
[20:28:23] <n1> looks like things are going well, i'd like the stories to be more diverse, but the news is what it is
[20:28:35] <n1> thats just an observation for today, not generally
[20:29:29] <janrinok> agreed - too few techie stories, too many politics and business type stories for me. Have you seen the 'new, resized' submission list?
[20:30:16] <n1> same, and I usually like the biz/gov stories.
[20:30:24] <n1> yeah i have, looks much better
[20:30:57] <janrinok> I'm just going through them one by one to either make a story or delete.
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[20:32:14] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: hi again
[20:32:21] <mrcoolbp> yoyoyo
[20:32:40] <janrinok> you doing good?
[20:34:08] <mrcoolbp> Yeah, I think so = )
[20:34:19] * mrcoolbp has a lot of things to do today though
[20:36:12] <janrinok> anything I can help with?
[20:39:05] <mrcoolbp> hmm
[20:39:11] <mrcoolbp> maybe
[20:39:23] <janrinok> ...that sounds a little ominous....?
[20:39:25] <mrcoolbp> I need to add the TOR links to the About.shtml file
[20:39:45] <mrcoolbp> and edit the moderation.shtml with recent additions to the code
[20:40:07] <mrcoolbp> (i.e. 4hours - > 8 hours, moderate^then post)
[20:40:08] <janrinok> where are these files hidden?
[20:41:22] <janrinok> and for that matter where are the TOR links - I haven't tried to use it yet
[20:41:23] <mrcoolbp> I'll grab them
[20:45:40] <mrcoolbp> http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:51] <janrinok> on my way
[20:46:38] <mrcoolbp> https://github.com
[20:46:44] <mrcoolbp> https://github.com
[20:47:13] <janrinok> got 3 links so far - that correct?
[20:49:35] <mrcoolbp> the second 2 links are to the docs I need to update
[20:49:49] <mrcoolbp> the first contains the 4 TOR links
[20:49:54] <janrinok> If I bread it all, can I blame someone else?
[20:49:58] <janrinok> break*
[20:50:06] <janrinok> got it
[20:50:15] <mrcoolbp> heh, start on adding the TOR links to the about.shtml if you have a few minutes
[20:50:37] <janrinok> what do you mean by moderate^then post?
[20:51:52] <mrcoolbp> ignore that for now
[20:52:20] <janrinok> OK, I'll start with task one and call you when I accidentally delete the github
[20:52:44] <mrcoolbp> janrinok, just save it as a txt file to your hard drive
[20:52:51] <mrcoolbp> you can't delete it anyway = )
[20:52:57] <mrcoolbp> when you finish with the links: http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:06] <janrinok> ooo - a challenge
[20:53:45] <mrcoolbp> heh
[20:57:08] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: also I'm looking for LamX
[21:04:27] <janrinok> not seen
[21:04:49] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[21:05:12] <mrcoolbp> I sent him an email 3 days ago about a the FAQ.html he has been "working on" for ~2 weeks
[21:05:44] <janrinok> I've not spoken to him for several days on IRC. I know he has had a rough time recently, and he is still posting during his working day, but I think he has a lot on his plate at the moment.
[21:06:21] <janrinok> I spoke to him via email about a week ago, but I do not expect to see him chatting here for a while yet.
[21:07:05] <mrcoolbp> my email basically said: "just send me what you have, I can take care of the rest"
[21:07:29] <janrinok> Understood, but its not been pleasant for him.
[21:08:14] <janrinok> ..and he is quite low at present
[21:08:30] <mrcoolbp> that's sad to hear
[21:09:05] <janrinok> Nothing that he won't get over, but it will take a bit of time is my guess
[21:09:52] <janrinok> All professional, so it's all recoverable.
[21:10:41] <mrcoolbp> ah
[21:11:00] <janrinok> Not a lot we can do but to cut him some slack and wish him well.
[21:11:44] <janrinok> Do you want me to send the correct shtml to you via email?
[21:14:53] <janrinok> brb
[21:16:24] <mrcoolbp> janrinok: yes please
[21:29:55] <janrinok> First sent (tor links). The second fix requires significantly more editing. I suspect that the new moderation rules are written somewhere, at least in rough. I'll go look for them but I have to be away in about 30 minutes or so. Could well be back on later.
[21:44:25] <mrcoolbp> forget the second one for now, this was a big help. thanks!
[21:45:36] <janrinok> mrcoolbp: Second email sent - let me know if it is not OK. I will be afk for the next hour or so.
[21:46:06] <mrcoolbp> janrionk, wow thanks!
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