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[13:51:20] <Tachyon> Please, don't stop posting stories, that will kill the site
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[14:01:57] <LaminatorX> .topic POSTING SUSPENDED FOR NOW
[14:01:57] BaconTree changed topic of #editorial to: POSTING SUSPENDED FOR NOW
[14:12:55] <Tachyon> <Tachyon> Please, don't stop posting stories, that will kill the site
[14:13:17] <Tachyon> i know NCommander urged it, but this is really bad decision
[14:13:40] <Tachyon> NCommander is my hero, but not in this one particular decision
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[14:21:04] <mattie_p> I"m going to experiment with that, BTW
[14:24:16] <mattie_p> Alright, keep running stories, I'm going to push NCommander's post forward in time so it stays on top. Just back-date the articles. I have no idea how long this will play out, so put the articles just before this one in time
[14:31:13] <LaminatorX> Sounds like a plan.
[14:34:04] <mattie_p> Currently his story was moved to 1317, so just backdate to before that
[14:34:21] <mattie_p> I'll slide his story every hour or so
[14:35:24] <LaminatorX> Let's go easy on the posts though. I have a feeling the uncertaintly will impact submission rate.
[14:36:14] <LaminatorX> You want to edit his message at the end of his post re suspending new stories?
[14:41:24] <mattie_p> yes, I'll take care of it
[14:41:57] <LaminatorX> Once you do, I'll uncover the Dementia blood-test article.
[14:42:45] <LaminatorX> .topic KEEP NCOMMANDER'S ANNOUNCEMENT AT TOP OF STORY LIST
[14:42:45] BaconTree changed topic of #editorial to: KEEP NCOMMANDER'S ANNOUNCEMENT AT TOP OF STORY LIST
[14:47:40] <Tachyon> good
[14:47:50] <Tachyon> very good
[15:34:36] <soyforlent> there should be a new name every year -- oh shugar I just saw the headline for the first time !! Yoikes! Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up smoking! ;)
[15:37:52] <soyforlent> http://www.youtube.com
[15:39:15] <n1> waking up to economic wars
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[16:08:06] <mattie_p> resume story posting, please
[16:10:41] <LaminatorX> .topic RESUME NORMAL POSTING - MIND THE QUEUE - CRISIS WILL IMPACT SUBMISSIONS
[16:10:41] BaconTree changed topic of #editorial to: RESUME NORMAL POSTING - MIND THE QUEUE - CRISIS WILL IMPACT SUBMISSIONS
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[18:32:54] <mrgirlpluggedin> Perhaps many of us have better things to do right now, but please take a few minutes to review my Style Guide (http://wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/index.php?title=Story_Style), and leave a comment or two.
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[19:44:54] <n1> this is depressing
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[19:53:06] <n1> its like people dont have enough drama as it is, we need drama about this shit
[19:53:08] <n1> ¬_¬
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[19:54:17] <janrinok> LaminatorX: Are you here?
[19:55:38] <mrgirlpluggedin> janrinok, we're the kids, and our parents are fighting over the terms of their divorce in front of our eyes.
[19:55:42] <mrgirlpluggedin> Welcome!
[19:56:11] <n1> lol
[19:56:13] <janrinok> Hi, you are keeping up to date with developments?
[19:56:50] <mrgirlpluggedin> Just barely
[19:57:10] <LaminatorX> I totally just posted a NEWS STORY!
[19:57:13] <n1> i dont think any of it matters, whats going on in the main channel... except that the domain may have been sold to an unknown third party
[19:57:17] <mrgirlpluggedin> What the hell is news?
[19:57:43] <janrinok> LaminatorX: I think we both posted the same one! I've put mine on 'Do not Display'
[19:58:21] <LaminatorX> HAH! Good catch.
[19:58:29] <janrinok> n1: Have you read both of Barrabas' journal entries for today?
[19:58:45] <n1> i skimmed the ones NCommander linked to
[19:58:49] <n1> thats about it
[19:59:03] <LaminatorX> Such a dissappointment. I defended that guy at one point.
[19:59:18] <janrinok> tl;dr B wants $2000 by Friday or he pulls the plug on this domain - is my understanding of it!
[19:59:22] <n1> yeah
[19:59:35] <n1> but what i saw in the main channel over the current discussion is
[19:59:40] <n1> B sold the domain to someone unnamed
[19:59:51] <janrinok> LaminatorX: The guy seemed good at first, you're are not the only one to have followed him - We all did!
[19:59:56] <n1> im assuming this is after the journal entry
[20:00:16] <n1> i said it already, but the impression i got from him from the outset was it was about the $$$
[20:00:17] <janrinok> That's and unsubstantiated claim as far as I can tell n1
[20:00:20] <janrinok> an*
[20:00:36] <n1> yeah, i dont know where the claim came from
[20:00:40] <n1> just saw it repeated a couple times
[20:00:45] <janrinok> But if you see anyone claiming to have it, let the guys on #staff know asap
[20:01:21] <LaminatorX> I don't think it was about the $$$, I think it was about ego.
[20:01:26] <n1> i dont anyone has, it seems that B/John is just trying to fuck with us now
[20:02:13] <n1> LaminatorX, i think that too, i just remember discussions on ##altslashdot and the original wiki, and his ideas seemed very much headed in the for-profit direction
[20:02:30] <n1> i wasn't here for all of it, just my impressions
[20:03:06] <n1> at the end of one of the journal entries from B "1) Back my management decisions, and 2) promote my vision of the site when I made him head of dev. "
[20:03:08] <LaminatorX> Right, he raged because everyone stopped giving him the priviledged status, so he switched to screwing with us to keep the attention coming.
[20:03:16] <n1> doesnt sound very community driven
[20:03:22] <janrinok> Well, I'll save money on one less Christmas card this year....
[20:03:28] <n1> heh
[20:03:33] <n1> you can send me one instead ;)
[20:04:00] <janrinok> Done, a pleasure
[20:04:47] <n1> LaminatorX, he put the money up so i guess he saw himself as some kind of omnipotent diety/dictator for life from his initial investment
[20:05:15] <janrinok> Oh, how the Mighty are fallen
[20:06:08] <n1> wasn't going to last with a community like this
[20:06:21] <n1> especially when it seemed from the outset that NCommander was doing all the actual work
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[20:06:25] <n1> or at least most of it
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[20:07:50] <janrinok> May I suggest that we be careful what we say on this chan - sensitive issues should be discussed on #staff. Not saying anyone has said anything yet, but we need to be careful.
[20:08:18] <janrinok> Other than that, let the conversation continue!
[20:08:44] <janrinok> I'm good at killing parties stone dead, too!
[20:08:56] <LaminatorX> Loggie is in the room, in any case.
[20:09:03] <n1> noted, especially as i'm not staff, i don't want to sow any seeds of discontent, i am mostly interested in the editorial line, not so much the office politics
[20:09:24] <LaminatorX> Editorial is not meant to be a closed channel.
[20:09:38] <janrinok> n1 no problem, but I wouldn't want to scupper their activities by saying something out of turn here
[20:09:46] <n1> i'm just really disappointed it devolved into this situation as we see it now
[20:09:51] <janrinok> we all are
[20:10:05] <LaminatorX> All are welcome. Well almost all. John comes in here I'm Oping up and bqanning him.
[20:10:22] <janrinok> And I don't think anyone saw it coming to this.
[20:10:30] <janrinok> LaminatorX: lol
[20:11:37] <janrinok> Barrabas is on #soylent now
[20:11:58] <n1> he's been there for a while, with some supporters
[20:12:14] <n1> which i dont recall seeing in #Soylent before
[20:12:39] <janrinok> Didn't realise n1, thx
[20:14:04] <neagix> just before it's too late, I wanted to say appreciate the hard work of editors
[20:14:28] <LaminatorX> Heh. thanks. We're not going anywhere though.
[20:14:55] <n1> janrinok, LaminatorX and mrgirlpluggedin ftw :p
[20:15:20] * LaminatorX blushes.
[20:15:29] <neagix> yeah, but after reading a few headlines and lines in IRC, I have to say it got the bent of some of the worst childish affairs :(
[20:15:46] <neagix> not that it was impossible to happen, just unexpected..
[20:16:14] <mrgirlpluggedin> It was fun while it lasted.
[20:16:18] <janrinok> We're not defeated yet!
[20:16:19] <n1> dont let the bastards grind you down, the site will survive this power struggle
[20:16:43] <n1> and on that note, i have places to be
[20:16:54] <mrgirlpluggedin> Even if it ends right here, it was totally worth it.
[20:16:56] <mrgirlpluggedin> 50 karma!
[20:17:01] <janrinok> nil illegitamus carborundum? use to be the saying, not good latin though...
[20:17:04] <n1> take it easy folks
[20:17:17] <janrinok> cu n1
[20:17:23] <neagix> of course..it won't die, just mutate ;)
[20:17:32] <mrgirlpluggedin> Take care, n1
[20:17:33] <neagix> like those visceroids in C&C
[20:18:14] <mrgirlpluggedin> You mean like Tesla-bolt-shooting dogs?
[20:18:22] <n1> if anything goes down re name change/domain while i'm afk can you pm me any new details?
[20:18:35] <n1> might be a day before im back
[20:18:40] <neagix> eheh..don't remember those dogs in C&C tiberian sun
[20:19:05] <mrgirlpluggedin> n1, our irc server is on soylentnews.org...
[20:19:10] <janrinok> n1 sure, or there will be a global email to your sign-up email
[20:19:33] <n1> i was figuring before it goes down i could get a pm
[20:19:41] <n1> but then i guess it could happen all of a sudden with no warning
[20:19:46] <neagix> maybe we should post an article with /etc/hosts overrides?
[20:19:48] <n1> well, i'll keep an eye on my email
[20:19:53] <neagix> that is..for the temporary transition
[20:19:55] <n1> so thats ok
[20:20:00] <mrgirlpluggedin> neagix, In C&C2 you could edit a plaintext file to modify existing units.
[20:20:16] <n1> thanks ya'll, peace out
[20:20:17] <neagix> mrgirlpluggedin: oh, nice, I didn't go that far
[20:20:26] <mrgirlpluggedin> n1, http://li694-22.members.linode.com
[20:20:50] <LaminatorX> also, irc.sylt.us
[20:20:57] <mrgirlpluggedin> I liked to muck about when I was a kid.
[20:21:00] <janrinok> yeah!
[20:21:01] <LaminatorX> sorry, irc.sylnt.us
[20:22:23] <janrinok> LaminatorX: what's your view on stories for this evening. Do them when necessary (in case the plug gets pulled) or queue some up and let it run?
[20:23:16] <LaminatorX> I'd say queue up leanly, as submissions are hit hard by all the uncertainty.
[20:23:42] <janrinok> ok I'll put 2 in the queue at approx 2 hours sep.
[20:23:50] <LaminatorX> Good.
[20:23:54] <janrinok> brb
[20:35:00] <janrinok> 2 stories in the queue - good until 2300 UTC
[20:37:17] <LaminatorX> I'm going to need to sign off until much later this evening. Keep soldiering on in the face of chaos. Put the ip in your etc/hosts. That's the only way the site will work if the name goes south. the linode address will load the main page, but nothing else will work.
[20:37:53] <janrinok> thx will do
[20:41:42] <mrgirlpluggedin> I'm off. See you all tomorrow!
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