#dev | Logs for 2019-07-05

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[09:39:03] <fyngyrz> Bytram: clearly, that's not how the site is actually used, though. It's fine to have a high ideal; but when reality is other, I think it's prudent to deal with it. There are many mods on site that are "just" mods. And...
[09:39:39] <fyngyrz> frankly, I think it's a bit much to expect people to spend time explaining idiocy to idiots. That's not a good use of anyone's time.
[09:40:44] <fyngyrz> First of all, they aren't going to pay any attention, they're just going to argue. Second, they don't deserve the attention, and that's what mods like that are for.
[09:41:45] <fyngyrz> Anyway, that's my opinion. I thought it was worth mentioning. I've done that.
[11:07:48] <Bytram> fyngyrz: I appreciate your viewpoint, and there are often (most) times that I agree with it! I've fantasized about having a "-1 NotEvenWrong" mod, but fear that would be misunderstood by some/enough...
[11:09:34] <Bytram> but let's consider the idea you proposed, and all its possible ramifications; esp. opportunity for mis-use. IOW, let's *not* set things up for the potential for "mod wars". I am not saying this proposal actually is that, only that such a possibility may exist, and what others may, as well.
[11:11:06] <Bytram> I'd like to be proven wrong, so please do not misunderstand where I am coming from. If there is a sane way to implement such a thing that is strictly to-purpose, and I can be convinced of that, you'll have my enthusiastic support for bringing it to the community for consideration!!!
[11:28:34] <Bytram> .
[11:28:59] <Bytram> I'm getting a 503 when trying to load: https://soylentnews.org
[11:31:19] * Bytram restarts varnishd on hydrogen and fluorine... and lithium
[11:32:47] <Bytram> now it loaded okay on my home system... yay!
[17:47:52] <NCommander> I likely need to sit down and set up an rehash development environment
[22:17:45] <fyngyrz> Bytram, I think we already have mod wars, but they're all one-sided because we don't have the appropriate mods to use. Not even close. As it stands, we have to use misleading moderations, which, frankly, sucks.
[22:18:44] <fyngyrz> You can't counter a mod with a post. You can only counter a mod with another mod.
[22:18:55] <fyngyrz> And *many* mods need to be countered.
[22:19:22] <fyngyrz> The assumption that all mods are reasonable - or even most - is clearly silly.
[22:20:04] <fyngyrz> good posts get downmodded, bad ones get upmodded... it would be awesome to have the right mods to address that other than under- and over-rated
[22:20:17] <fyngyrz> underrated doesn't work on 0-value anons, either
[22:20:22] <fyngyrz> afk