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[00:20:36] <fyngyrz> There's original content now, though - Stars, HBO, Netflix, some others... that's the way to get my money. I don't care much (really hardly at all) about "TV" stuff, it's usually crap. Firefly excepted. :)
[00:21:13] <fyngyrz> We subscribe to HBO for a month every time they release a season of GameOfThrones, then bail. :)
[00:22:01] <fyngyrz> sorry about the AFK intervals, RealLife™ keeps happening
[00:28:30] <Kuro> True. I tend to watch more series than movies. Haha as much as I like Scifi I couldnt get into Firefly, maybe I'm just odd like that. That reallife... always getting in the way
[00:32:15] <fyngyrz> yup
[00:32:26] <fyngyrz> to each their own
[00:33:21] <fyngyrz> I buy movies, I don't stream them. DVDs first, blurays, then 4k blurays. I'm up for whatever. But I will stream a series, and then buy it on permanent media if we like it enough
[00:34:08] <fyngyrz> we bough an old church, then basically built the entire interior around a home theater concept. So we do like our vidya
[00:34:16] <fyngyrz> (bought)
[00:34:52] <fyngyrz> our ISP here isn't really good enough to get through streaming an entire movie at 4k anyway
[00:35:04] <chromas> Does it have a big bell?
[00:35:18] <fyngyrz> I pay for a lot of bandwidth... but I don't reliably *get* it
[00:35:44] <fyngyrz> No bell. Was pretty much an empty cube once we threw out the pews and etc.
[00:35:48] <fyngyrz> it's big though
[00:36:13] <fyngyrz> these were "Nazerenes", and they didn't go in for bells and gold and the like
[00:36:43] <fyngyrz> I would like to build a tower onto it and put an observatory up there, but it's one of those "getRoundToIt things
[00:37:10] <chromas> Aw. It'd be great to ring the bell whenever you're getting ready to watch a movie
[00:37:11] <fyngyrz> there would be contractors everywhere for a couple months, disruptions... leaves me meh most of the time
[00:37:40] <fyngyrz> There are neighbors. Don't think they'd appreciate it
[00:38:15] <Kuro> That sounds pretty epic converting an old building like a church into a vidya watching room
[00:38:50] <fyngyrz> we like it a lot. Not for everyone, obviously, but it was what we really wanted to do. Place came up cheap as hell, and I was like, MINE. :)
[00:39:00] <Kuro> I'm the same, if I really like a movie/tv series after watching it streamed I buy a used Blueray off amazon and rip it
[00:39:23] <fyngyrz> ah, you have a media server?
[00:39:55] <Kuro> Yeah, I have a mac mini with itunes running and do the sharing thing to the appletvs/ios devices
[00:40:04] <fyngyrz> there you go
[00:41:13] <fyngyrz> I'm still kind of stuck on the physicality of shelves full of media... but we're getting kind of full up, and I may just slam a few terabytes into service and repurpose the media shelves
[00:41:28] <Kuro> but ripping/encoding takes forever. luckily theres a great write up and automator scripts for OS X that do all the work and fill out the meta data
[00:41:37] <fyngyrz> I've got some space tower macs that I could load up with big drives
[00:41:49] <fyngyrz> lots of cores, fast, etc
[00:41:57] <fyngyrz> s/space/spare/
[00:42:10] <Kuro> I keep the Physical media just because its easier to browse than scrolling thgouth the movie lists on the device
[00:42:36] <fyngyrz> yeah. Some theater software does a decent job of showing covers, etc
[00:42:59] <fyngyrz> There was a mac app... some media library thing... I own it, can't remember, haven't used it in a while
[00:43:15] <fyngyrz> used a shelf metaphor... very nice, actually
[00:43:39] <Kuro> the apple eco system does it decently, but im old school and like looking at the spines... pretend im at a blockbuster too
[00:44:01] <fyngyrz> ah "Delicious LIbrary"
[00:44:20] <Kuro> really wish they never got rid of the cover flow gimmick
[00:44:58] <fyngyrz> https://www.delicious-monster.com
[00:45:11] <fyngyrz> um... got rid of?
[00:45:19] <fyngyrz> I thought it was still a thing
[00:45:44] <Kuro> you cant browse your album with coveflow in ios anymore AFAIK
[00:46:25] <Kuro> removed in ios 8.4 according to a reddit post
[00:46:38] <fyngyrz> oh, iOS. I don't use iOS. I was thinking OSX, which does still do it
[00:47:15] <Kuro> sorry, should have clarified
[00:49:16] <fyngyrz> I should also say, by "still", I mean OS X 10.12.6, which is the latest I've been forced into
[00:50:22] <Kuro> I still run 10.11.6 on a mid 2012 MBPr and im reluctant to upgrade
[00:50:58] <fyngyrz> I develop under a 10.6.8 VM so my stuff will work from there forward. :)
[00:51:11] <Kuro> \o/
[00:51:50] <fyngyrz> I have tens of thousands of users; can't be stepping on their toes because Apple has sme new whiz-bang horsehit
[00:52:14] <fyngyrz> they're gonna fuck me with this no-more-32-bit shit, though
[00:52:14] <Kuro> 0_0 thats a lot
[00:52:52] <Kuro> yeah, Apple needs to worry more about tightening up their software game and make it not so buggy or crap
[00:53:07] <fyngyrz> yeah... I pretty much have the premiere app of its type for the Mac, and the userbase is new and growing, so I'm on top at least until someone kicks my ass for me. :)
[00:53:25] <fyngyrz> Which I am quite sure someone will
[00:53:31] <Kuro> but then again... market dictates and most of its users that just want to look at Instagram FB Twitter and use googles suite of products
[00:54:03] <fyngyrz> not for my stuff though. Google has nothing, and never will have anything. It's realtime stuff, browsers can't get there from here
[00:54:17] <fyngyrz> the few attempts to do so have been laughable
[00:54:29] <Kuro> oh yeah, there will always be a market for the "pro" cant be run in a brwoser apps
[00:54:55] <fyngyrz> you need a host computer with some serious whipass. I warm up your cores for you. :)
[00:55:04] <Kuro> this coming from an Outlook user that hates using email in a browser window...
[00:55:08] <fyngyrz> 24 cores? Fine. Gimme.
[00:55:16] <Kuro> moar cores!!!
[00:55:25] <fyngyrz> always, always moar corez
[00:55:39] <Kuro> more minions to do the work
[00:56:20] <fyngyrz> I write image processing stuff too; in the current effort, I figure out how many cores you havem, then let you say how many I can use, then I slice the image into that many segments and hammer it
[00:56:36] <Kuro> mmmmm tasty
[00:56:45] <Kuro> thats smart software
[00:56:48] <fyngyrz> If you can put 24 or more cores into it, you get some pretty fast results, at least for a CPU
[00:57:11] <Kuro> like having a render farm in your physical cpu
[00:57:21] <fyngyrz> GPUs are something else. But Apple keeps changing the playing field there, and again, I like to write so everyone can play
[00:57:36] <fyngyrz> so I write for the CPU only
[00:58:11] <fyngyrz> Some days I think they should rename Apple to "WeMoveTheGoalposts, Inc."
[00:58:22] <Kuro> which is probably easier too being that the drivers for GPUs are so finicky... but then again apple hates GPUs it seems
[00:58:36] <Kuro> Ha
[00:58:44] <fyngyrz> they have a whole API to use them... but it sucks, and it keeps chaning
[00:58:48] <fyngyrz> changing
[00:59:56] <Kuro> ugg
[01:00:18] <Kuro> I think im not the only one thats not a fan of these yearly big OS updates that break everything?
[01:00:31] <fyngyrz> I try to use as few Apple APIs as possible. Write my own stuff. That way, they change something, I'm immune
[01:00:40] <fyngyrz> oh man, you said it
[01:00:41] <Kuro> smarts
[01:01:34] <fyngyrz> did that with microsoft too... after getting burned a few times with them having/making bugs (and nto fixing them), I laid down the law: If they break it, we rewrite it on our own, fixed. Solved a lot of problems.
[01:01:57] <Kuro> let me use my OS for 3-4 years an be done with it. Id rather have improvesments in the OS under the hood rather than updates to the eyecandy of the UI and other stupid needless features
[01:02:52] <fyngyrz> wouldn't that be [shouts in Apple's direction]: NICE YOU FUCKERS?
[01:03:03] <Kuro> Yeah, MSFT following in apples path was not too welcome.. as is MSFTs choice to make Server so relient or linked to the cloud
[01:03:32] * Kuro waves the bird towards the Apple Spaceship
[01:03:59] * fyngyrz co-birds
[01:04:19] <Kuro> no. I dont want my local domain name to have anything to do with FQDNs.....
[01:04:52] <fyngyrz> mmmmph
[01:05:13] * Kuro keeps preaching to the choir
[01:05:23] <fyngyrz> s'truth
[01:05:26] <fyngyrz> peach on
[01:05:47] <fyngyrz> or preach, even. Typo to those who typo against us
[01:05:59] <fyngyrz> (r)amen
[01:06:06] <Kuro> and let me create an account with an email address and passwrod. no i wont give you my phone number or use a twitter/fb/msft live account to log in
[01:06:10] <Kuro> mmmm ramen
[01:06:37] <fyngyrz> where /MSG is a BAD thing
[01:06:57] <Kuro> MSG being bad for you is based on a flawed study
[01:07:07] <chromas> msg++
[01:07:07] <Bender> karma - msg: 1
[01:07:15] <fyngyrz> MSG is good. /MSG means "not MSG"
[01:07:27] <fyngyrz> msg++
[01:07:28] <Bender> karma - msg: 2
[01:08:00] <Kuro> ooooo. programming humor
[01:08:19] <fyngyrz> {guilty}
[01:08:19] <fungus> guilty
[01:08:21] <fyngyrz> {guilty}
[01:08:21] <fungus> umm... ooops?
[01:08:22] <fyngyrz> {guilty}
[01:08:22] <fungus> points finger at self
[01:08:23] <fyngyrz> {guilty}
[01:08:23] <fungus> guilty
[01:08:24] <fyngyrz> {guilty}
[01:08:24] <fungus> mea culpa
[01:08:27] <fyngyrz> :)
[01:08:42] * Kuro submits thead to bash dot org as a funny
[01:08:46] <Kuro> thread
[01:10:32] <fyngyrz> I need mor guilty instances
[01:11:58] <Kuro> I wonder if you could puppet/chef or aws cloudformation to spin up more guilty instances
[01:12:18] <fyngyrz> amazon is pre-guilty as I understand it
[01:13:46] <Kuro> what about by association?
[01:14:17] <fyngyrz> hmm, yes, that too
[01:14:42] <fyngyrz> although they did put out some good songs for the genre
[01:15:06] * Kuro pulls out a map.... is clearly lost
[01:15:31] <fyngyrz> https://en.wikipedia.org
[01:15:32] <exec> └─ 13The Association - Wikipedia
[01:15:44] <Kuro> ahhhhhh
[01:15:52] <fyngyrz> I"m old :)
[01:17:56] <Kuro> Oh, they sing Windy
[01:18:03] <Kuro> why didnt you just say that! lol
[01:18:34] <fyngyrz> because YOU said "association" :)
[01:18:51] <fyngyrz> and that was my... association
[01:19:01] <fyngyrz> wait, I think I'm in a recursive loop here
[01:19:10] <fyngyrz> [*pop*]
[01:19:21] <Kuro> goes the fyngyrz
[01:19:23] * fyngyrz reboots
[01:21:06] * fyngyrz Welcome to Atheism 1.0. GOD.SYS Not Found. Continue? Y
[01:21:41] <fyngyrz> Think I'll can that
[01:21:57] <Kuro> lol
[01:23:33] <fyngyrz> {reboot}
[01:23:33] <fungus> Welcome to Atheism 1.0.
[01:23:33] <fungus> GOD.SYS not found
[01:23:34] <fungus> Continue? Y/N: y
[01:23:34] <fungus> 11==>
[01:24:01] * chromas installs Atheism+
[01:24:04] <fyngyrz> needs moar green
[01:24:33] <fyngyrz> {reboot}
[01:24:33] <fungus> 03Welcome to Atheism 1.0.
[01:24:33] <fungus> 03GOD.SYS not found
[01:24:34] <fungus> 03Continue? Y/N: y
[01:24:34] <fungus> 11==>
[01:25:34] <fyngyrz> {reboot}
[01:25:34] <fungus> 03Welcome to Atheism 1.0.
[01:25:35] <fungus> 03GOD.SYS not found, switching default to REALITY.SYS
[01:25:35] <fungus> 03Continue? Y/N: y
[01:25:36] <fungus> 11==>
[01:25:39] <fyngyrz> there we go
[01:26:30] <fyngyrz> actually should be doing this nonsense over in test. Wanders over there
[01:26:34] <fyngyrz> #test
[01:29:07] <Kuro> i think you wanted /join #test lol
[01:33:12] <fyngyrz> oh no, I was already in there, I was just replacing the "test" in the above with "#test"
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[01:44:48] <Kuro_> ah ok
[01:45:27] <Kuro_> damnit still have a rogue session running... brb
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[01:45:56] <chromas> /nick Kuro ;)
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[01:46:40] <Kuro> ok, back
[01:47:12] <Kuro> I had a screen session borked with an instance of irssi running logged in
[01:47:25] <Kuro> woudl that have kicked off the old session?
[01:47:58] <chromas> The new session just gets a different nick
[01:48:17] <chromas> You can have multiple sessions with the same account though
[01:49:31] <Kuro> ahhh TIL thanks
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[22:12:41] <Kuro> so sidebar question about how you guys are running the soylentnews site, you guys buy a ssl cert, using letsencrypt or something else?
[22:44:05] <TheMightyBuzzard> Kuro, both. we use a gandi cert for soylentnews.org. and letsencrypt certs for everything else.
[22:45:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> gandi cert is JUST for soylentnews.org. all the other *.soylentnews.org hosts are le.
[22:49:59] <Kuro> Cool cool, thanks!
[22:51:52] <Kuro> I think I'm going to initially attempt using the cert manager with aws initially (makes notes to document the process for anyone else) and if thats too cumbersome go with letsencrypt
[22:58:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> knod knod. you can get away with one cert. we just like having several boxes for redundancy and other services like irc.
[22:58:33] <TheMightyBuzzard> food time, back later
[23:07:41] <chromas> We just need someone to invent certscale blockchain
[23:09:44] <Kuro> yeah, just us a wildcard IIRC
[23:09:55] <Kuro> oooo thats an interesting idea chromas
[23:10:10] <Kuro> blockchain all the things!
[23:11:01] <chromas> Whatever happened to the Web of Trust? I bet Big Cert was responsible for its demise
[23:13:21] <Kuro> Big Tabacco, Big Media, Big Cert
[23:14:24] <Kuro> I think the moment the web went from sharing information publicly and tacked on making financial transactions and such the web of trust went the wayside
[23:16:06] * chromas invents xml-based dht blockhain dns+cert hybrid
[23:16:14] <Kuro> accelerated once the Firesheep plugin and hijacking Facebook sessions then the uncovering of prism and such put the use of certs/SSL into hyper drive
[23:16:21] * chromas adds it to systemd
[23:16:42] * Kuro hands chromas an award for creating such an amazing hybrid