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[00:44:40] <Bytram> while we are working on subscriptions, I found a couple minor mistakes in: edit;subscribe;default
[00:45:04] <Bytram> (1) "subcription" should be "subscription" (a letter "s" is missing)
[00:45:46] <Bytram> (2) There is a place with a doubled period: " in US dollars.. (Price "
[00:47:11] <Bytram> (3) actually, that whole sentence could stand to be rewritten. It needs a more positive statement suggesting paying more than the minimum, but I'm struggling atm to come up with a better wording.
[00:47:22] <Bytram> current wording:
[00:47:22] <Bytram> Length of subscription and price. Choose the length of the subscription and if you want you can purchase your subscription for custom price, in US dollars.. (Price must be equal or greater than the default minimum values.)
[00:47:45] <Bytram> hmmm
[00:50:25] <Bytram> Select subscription duration and payment amount in US dollars. <b>Note:</b> The amount shown is the <em>minimum</em> amount; many have supported the site by paying much more.
[00:51:12] <Bytram> thoughts?
[00:51:43] <Bytram> TheMightyBuzzard: Xyem: paulej72: NCommander: ^^^
[07:23:13] <Xyem> PR for "subcription" fix is done.
[07:38:13] <Xyem> "<b>Duration and price:</b> Choose a subscription duration and set the price you wish to pay for it. Defaults are the minimum for that duration but you can support SoylentNews more by increasing the amount."
[07:38:56] <Xyem> I'd prefer to put "USD" after each field.
[07:39:07] <Xyem> 30 days: [ 4.00] USD
[07:39:13] <Xyem> 180 days: [12.00] USD
[07:41:44] <Xyem> Or in it's own sentence ("All prices are in USD") right above them, rather than "hiding" it in the middle of a paragraph.
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[10:22:23] -!- Xyem [Xyem!~Xyem@jpj687207-lumn53-3-0-acpu775.4-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #dev
[10:22:43] <TheMightyBuzzard> Xyem, add it to the PR then.
[10:23:21] Xyem is now known as SoyGuest61945
[10:32:36] <Bytram> Xyem: Your rewording is much better... go for it!
[10:32:59] SoyGuest61945 is now known as Xyem
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[10:33:18] -!- mode/#dev [+v Xyem] by Hera
[10:33:53] <Bytram> oh, THERE you are!
[10:33:55] <Bytram> Xyem: Your rewording is much better... go for it!
[10:39:55] <Xyem> Nickserv decided I couldn't be Xyem anymore.
[10:40:18] <Xyem> Then when I identified, I got booted from irc.perl.org :P
[10:40:39] <chromas> perl has its own network?
[10:40:55] <chromas> I sure hope its server is written in perl (but not 6)
[10:45:34] <Xyem> It does. Not sure if it is for perl itself, or just projects using perl though.
[11:12:12] <Xyem> I will update the PR later with the wording change. A little bit busy at work to do it now.
[11:12:45] <Xyem> Basically, rebuilding a database from *images* of the database's output, which has changed several times..
[11:13:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> oooh, fun
[11:19:44] <TheMightyBuzzard> Bytram, no notes on the release story
[11:20:26] <Bytram> huh? I don't understand
[11:21:06] <TheMightyBuzzard> i have no notes to add to it
[11:21:21] <Bytram> oh? neat! you mean I got everything?
[11:21:30] <TheMightyBuzzard> far as i saw
[11:21:49] <Bytram> on the site OS changeover... who did I lleave out?
[11:21:58] <TheMightyBuzzard> might ask pj
[11:22:16] <TheMightyBuzzard> tons but you weren't going for comprehensive so...
[11:23:44] * Bytram looks at the list of folks in the, umm, channel and I don't recall any editors or bots doing any of the changeover... I think I got 'em all.
[11:26:54] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh, ya. audioguy and ncommander did the vast majority of it with Deucalion pulling up third place by virtue of trying to get a second irc server set up on lithium
[11:27:21] <Bytram> yep, I think I had them in there. also mechanicjay and PJ
[11:27:45] <TheMightyBuzzard> the rest of us mostly just back-seat admin'd
[11:28:35] <Bytram> nodnod
[11:28:40] <Bytram> looks like I got 'em all then
[12:12:36] * Xyem twitches
[12:12:41] <Xyem> Same text, different files.
[12:13:49] <Bytram> Xyem: Hmmm?
[12:14:36] <Bytram> did you think you were in #editorial ??
[12:14:39] <Xyem> acsub and edit have the same text in them, but they are not subtemplates. So you could end up changing one, but not the other.
[12:15:59] <Bytram> you talking about filters?
[12:16:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> different logic in them?
[12:16:37] <Bytram> anyway, too hot to think... am hitting the showers... afk for a bit.
[12:16:43] <Xyem> The templates for the Subscribe plugin.
[12:17:44] <Xyem> The rewording I am doing is in two files, rather than being in a subtemplate and called up in them.
[12:18:13] <Xyem> Can I deploy this to check it looks right?
[12:18:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> if there's any differing non-text elements, that'd be why. it being largely easier to copy pasta than refactor.
[12:18:47] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, go fer it. i'm not doing anything today.
[12:19:41] <TheMightyBuzzard> mind you any unmerged prs won't be reflected in dev's current state except the one you're working on.
[12:20:03] <TheMightyBuzzard> can lead to some funkiness where you're expecting something to be there and it's not occasionally.
[12:20:04] <Xyem> Is it possible to refactor things like that?
[12:20:20] <Xyem> As in, can I move that part of it into a subtemplate?
[12:20:53] <TheMightyBuzzard> oh sure, if you prefer. it's not especially hurting anything how it is but it wouldn't hurt anything refactored either.
[12:22:14] <TheMightyBuzzard> generally, unless there's going to be a significant performance impact, i prefer whatever way is quickest to code up in instances like that.
[12:22:25] <Xyem> Awesome.
[12:22:39] <Xyem> Eh, I don't mind if others do the "quick code" and I go in later and refactor it.
[12:23:19] <TheMightyBuzzard> so i'd just edit the two templates unless there were a non-aesthetic reason to refactor. it don't bug me if someone else spends their time doing it though.
[12:23:50] <Xyem> I'm just editing them both for now. I've added it to my TODO to subtemplate it.
[12:25:02] <TheMightyBuzzard> adding a new template note: you'll need to add the new file to PLUGIN file for that plugin.
[12:25:18] <TheMightyBuzzard> or it won't get picked up for installing
[12:25:28] <Xyem> Ah okay, thanks.
[12:25:57] <Xyem> The rewording is a little different to what I put in IRC, is it okay?
[12:26:09] <TheMightyBuzzard> long as it works
[12:26:59] <TheMightyBuzzard> ya, thas fine
[12:27:24] <TheMightyBuzzard> must now find breakfast and ++ my coffee
[12:32:34] <Xyem> Huh, github has updated my PR. That's not quite what I wanted..
[12:32:46] <Xyem> But it works, I guess.
[19:21:33] <Deucalion> Xyem - what happened with you nick? Was it the perl irc saying you could no longer be Xyem or SN's?
[19:21:55] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, I still haven't got the 2nd ircd stood up. Work's been kicking my ass. Weekend off though.
[19:23:56] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, nifty. hopefully pj will have it as well and we can get this site update done too.
[19:24:20] <Deucalion> TheMightyBuzzard, have what?
[19:24:49] <TheMightyBuzzard> the weekend off
[19:27:12] <Deucalion> Is the next plan to move Bery over to gentoo? I've not checked any of the bots compile (other than eggdrop), but ircd and services do. The bots are all just perl and/or java IIRC so I'm sure they can be wrangled to work - none of them are essential I don;t think. Although doesn't Bender have something to do with bitpay or something completely unassociated with IRC? Mebbe I'm thinking of the twitter stuff. $deity knows, I'm bushed.
[19:28:38] <Deucalion> TMB ^^
[19:29:31] <TheMightyBuzzard> Deucalion, no. next is the unused load balancer
[19:30:01] <TheMightyBuzzard> bender does the facebook and twitter posting
[19:30:17] <TheMightyBuzzard> nothing associated with finances
[19:39:05] <Deucalion> aight, definitely nothing crucical then :D As long as we backup the sylnt ~ then we can restore them back in one by one and stand them up. Crucial thing is the ircd and services. I'm aiming to get the 2nd ircd up first. That'll retain all the channel modes / topics. Most users will get disconnected for the duration but we'll be able to direct in on irc2.sylnt.us - or maybe not bother and just use audioguy's adminchat thingamy - which I have no idea
[19:39:05] <Deucalion> what that is, but I'm sure it'll work fine
[19:52:24] <Xyem> Deucalion: I think I got bounced from SN's IRC, so nickserv gave me a another name, perl IRC booting me was probably just a co-incidence.
[19:54:37] <Deucalion> Xyem, yeh if you timeout and reconnect, the window to auth to nickserv is pretty darn short before you get re-nicked. Good reason to automate it in your client or bouncer :D
[19:55:40] <Deucalion> Let me know if it reoccurs annoyingly and I'll dive some logs. But I'm too lazy to bother with that for one instance :D
[19:58:15] <Xyem> No worries, I need to set this connection up with the bouncer, which can do identify for me.