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[23:47:19] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I'm gonna grab foodstuff, I'll be back on a bit later but feel free to ping me
[23:44:47] <mrcoolbp> takyon: when you think it's ready, set it for release 3 hours after the story I just moved to the top " topics/submissions working"
[23:40:39] <mrcoolbp> do that
[23:40:37] <mrcoolbp> that's fine
[23:40:35] <mrcoolbp> yes
[23:37:56] <takyon> if I save the disney story, that removes it from the dev submissions list?
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[23:27:59] <mrcoolbp> post 4k uids are not anyway
[23:27:44] <mrcoolbp> new users aren't even on dev
[23:27:35] <mrcoolbp> sometimes they update dev and use different dumps
[23:27:27] <mrcoolbp> depends on when the dump is from
[23:27:17] <takyon> aye
[23:27:10] <takyon> so if you change it one, it remains the site-generated one in dev
[23:26:44] <mrcoolbp> when you changed it on prod, the dev (older dump) db still had your old one
[23:26:20] <mrcoolbp> no, they are seperate DBs
[23:26:13] <takyon> that's a security issue
[23:26:09] <takyon> I'm pretty sure it took my old password, not my new one
[23:26:04] <mrcoolbp> ?
[23:25:59] <takyon> oh wow
[23:25:39] <mrcoolbp> i can change the password if ya want
[23:25:31] <mrcoolbp> takyon: password issue?
[23:25:06] <takyon> I can't login to dev.soylentnews.org
[23:24:36] <mrcoolbp> 2 is usually good enough
[23:24:28] <mrcoolbp> or any 2 of those
[23:24:23] <mrcoolbp> can do the disney story also if ya want
[23:24:09] <mrcoolbp> takyon: you'll find 3 directly below \/ \/ \/ Editor Training Submissions Below This Line \/ \/ \/
[23:23:55] <mrcoolbp> takyon: use the stories that have "*DELETE THIS LINE* " on the righthand side (and yes, do delete that line)
[23:23:25] <takyon> from the actual submissions list?
[23:22:55] <mrcoolbp> we usually ask for 2-3 stories actually
[23:22:42] <mrcoolbp> takyon: our M.O. for approving editors is asking them to edit a test submission and post it to the mainpage of dev for our review
[23:22:05] <mrcoolbp> I'll get the authors_cache rebuilt in a few minutes (so you can post stories that don't have a blank author) but feel free to start messing around immediately
[23:21:57] <takyon> do I need to post a test story over there
[23:20:48] <mrcoolbp> takyon: you have full editor privs on dev.soylentnews.org
[23:18:25] <mrcoolbp> sec
[23:16:27] <takyon> shoot me an email... or I guess I'll notice if my account is upgraded
[23:16:10] <takyon> that's about it I think
[23:14:55] <mrcoolbp> stories/mainpage are reverse
[23:14:47] <mrcoolbp> submissions is straight chron
[23:14:41] <mrcoolbp> yeah
[23:14:38] <mrcoolbp> submissions list is chron I think
[23:14:23] <mrcoolbp> nah, they are both revers
[23:13:44] <takyon> the story list is in chronological order rather than the reverse chronological order of pending stories, right
[23:12:51] <mrcoolbp> judging by the questions and your attention to detail, you'll have no problem = )
[23:12:41] <takyon> cool
[23:12:34] <mrcoolbp> if we sign off on you of course
[23:12:16] <takyon> do I get a soylent email
[23:12:08] <mrcoolbp> our motto is "go ahead and try to break dev" I mean that's what it's there for
[23:11:32] <mrcoolbp> yeah, hate those
[23:11:25] <takyon> ah yeah can't forget the autoplay
[23:11:25] <mrcoolbp> takyon: if you want to learn more about the merge function submit two stories to dev server, and merge them in submissions and play around = )
[23:10:34] <mrcoolbp> takyon, more answers: brand new editors are encouraged to uncheck "display" if they are unsure, paywalls are a good place to use [brackets] (I also do this for excessive ads or autoplay videos to warn users)
[23:09:10] <mrcoolbp> another*
[23:09:07] <mrcoolbp> could always ping anonther editor on #editorial
[23:08:55] <mrcoolbp> agreed, they all depend on the situation, one must use judgement
[23:08:37] <takyon> well there's several ways to fix the spelling/grammar, but using [sic] is substantially different approach than making a correction
[23:08:18] <mrcoolbp> to answer your question, looks like the "submission" link goes to the "merged submission" I mentioned above
[23:07:44] <mrcoolbp> but some may use [sic] there
[23:07:33] <mrcoolbp> I would post the story with "unless [you] perform" or "unless [one performs] encryption"
[23:06:43] <takyon> "This is probably not a concern unless you're perform encryption"
[23:06:09] <takyon> well there are mistakes that need a square bracket fix like this line from my latest submission...
[23:06:01] <mrcoolbp> s'how I was taught
[23:05:24] <mrcoolbp> obviously it's best to leave quotes alone as much as possible, but I do change puntation to follow the presented format
[23:05:13] <takyon> yeah I can start it
[23:04:53] <mrcoolbp> takyon: yeah if you want to help us write that guide, it's a living document
[23:04:32] <mrcoolbp> when you merge two stories in the submission queue, it makes a new "submission" with both submissions written in the "body text" area
[23:04:11] <takyon> the stuff I mentioned could go in the style guide
[23:03:42] <mrcoolbp> takyon: I'm looking at a submission from a merge
[23:03:24] <mrcoolbp> aye, you can do that
[23:02:05] <takyon> square brackets is for correcting misspelling in quoted material and such
[23:01:38] <takyon> I didn't say anything about editor notes
[23:00:59] <mrcoolbp> takyon: you generally don't want to add editors notes, but I think there is a short policy on them, maybe in story style
[23:00:15] <mrcoolbp> let me check on how it handles the submission on a merged story
[22:59:49] <takyon> well when that solar aircraft story posted there was like 3 at once. I look at the submission list a lot so I've seen other instances
[22:59:44] <mrcoolbp> but I can explain (btw this is "dev" we should probably be in #editorial but no matter, we don't use this channel much)
[22:59:14] <mrcoolbp> merge isn't used very often
[22:57:42] <takyon> So my questions boil down to: Is there anything additional needed to know about the "merge" function, how does clicking the original submission link handle 2 or more merged stories, do new/any editors uncheck the "Display" checkbox when submitting stories they are unsure about, and are there any policies about square bracket corrections, paywalls, and additional links at the end of the summary
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