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[22:09:12] <paulej72_afk> New developers wiki page with updated information: http://sylnt.us Please have a look.
[21:17:36] <VitaminR> paulej72_afk: my apologies, I'm afk'ing now
[21:16:39] <VitaminR> paulej72_afk: thank you
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[20:38:30] paulej72 changed topic of #dev to: The channel for all your development needs | Learn more about the dev team and how to volunteer at http://sylnt.us | BUGS ---> http://sylnt.us | SlashDev VM torrent @ http://torrents.soylentnews.org | SlashDev VM Instructions http://sylnt.us
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[20:37:32] <paulej72> .topic The channel for all your development needs | Learn more about us and volunteering at http://sylnt.us | BUGS ---> http://sylnt.us | SlashDev VM torrent @ http://torrents.soylentnews.org | SlashDev VM Instructions http://sylnt.us
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[20:37:05] <paulej72> .topic The channel for all your development needs | Learn more about us and volunteering at http://sylnt.us | BUGS ---> http://sylnt.us | SlashDev VM torrent @ http://torrents.soylentnews.org | SlashDev VM Instructions http://sylnt.us
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[19:24:18] <paulej72> VitaminR: Please have a look a wiki.soylentnews.org/wiki/index.php/Development. I am hoping to put up some more information soon abut volunteering.
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[17:37:44] <mrcoolbp> any thoughts on the site?
[17:37:35] <mrcoolbp> my pleasure sir
[17:27:13] <VitaminR> thanks :)
[17:27:05] <mrcoolbp> let me know if I can help, you know how to find me
[17:26:41] <VitaminR> I haven't been at home recently much
[17:26:34] <VitaminR> Just superficially
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[17:10:07] <mrcoolbp> have you been able to talk to any devs?
[17:08:33] <VitaminR> thanks :)
[17:08:31] <VitaminR> quite well
[17:08:15] <mrcoolbp> How goes it VitaminR?
[17:07:53] <VitaminR> hey mrcoolbp
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[16:21:52] <mrcoolbp> what's up everyone?
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[01:26:48] <audioguyafk> gone...
[01:26:16] <audioguyafk> Coffeee. You need some too ? ;-)
[01:25:52] <stderr> audioguy: What kind?
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[01:25:33] <audioguy> I am out to the store to get some more programming juice
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[01:21:07] <audioguy> WE are all trying to figure this mess out, so sharing info needs to be especially good.
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[01:20:04] <audioguy> Have written somewhere what peoples skills are.
[01:19:41] <audioguy> Have written somewhere who is working on what.
[01:19:24] <audioguy> Most pressing needs for me as to dev team:
[01:17:49] <audioguy> Good, important.
[01:17:36] <NCommander> audioguy, I think so.
[01:17:22] <audioguy> Are all the dv team on the mailing list?
[01:17:22] <paulej72> NCommander: I'll need to get access to the production boxes and probably owner access to the GitHub repo. no rush as I really do not want to jump into pushing to production just yet
[01:16:26] <audioguy> I am happy to wokr with paulj in any capacity
[01:15:13] <NCommander> paulej72 is effectively handling the day to day operations for me which is huge. I'll hash out what our short/medium/long term goals towards slash will be, and work w/ him to find volunteers to, as they say, get 'er done
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[01:13:12] <paulej72> OK that is a bit more important
[01:13:12] <audioguy> NC is practical head by virtue of knowlege until we get someone who really knows perl who can 'own' the code.
[01:12:52] <NCommander> paulej72, I'm going to have a writeup on specifically how we're going to operate in depth. I've been slightly tied up making the editorial team cry
[01:12:28] <paulej72> NCommander: I still consider you head catherder for dev
[01:12:23] <audioguy> What NC, worried about a coup? ;-)
[01:12:16] * NCommander formally activates the dev unit, and gives paulej72 his badge of office
[01:11:59] <paulej72> Yes I am fine with that
[01:11:46] <NCommander> paulej72, just remember that audioguy works with you, and you work with me
[01:11:36] <audioguy> negotiate for full access to eveythiing, paul, this is the time to do that.
[01:10:59] <paulej72> NCommander: about being the point man for dev. I am willing to do it if audioguy will be my right hand man
[01:10:09] <NCommander> paulej72, there's no automatic update infrastructure
[01:10:02] <NCommander> paulej72, I do. look at db/mysql/upgrades
[01:10:01] <audioguy> And neither of use have access to real slash site, so cannot grab them,. If you become an overlord you should get access ;-)
[01:09:23] <audioguy> I don't see what that cannot be updated, provided we save certian tables and reload them. That was on my todo list, but right now do not want to do that, as this other problem is more important.
[01:09:03] <paulej72> the issue is NCommander does not yet have the db updates in the repo
[01:08:17] <paulej72> yes so slashcott is definitely got some database stuff missing
[01:08:12] <audioguy> That is maybe why there is an update db function in slash/bin
[01:07:51] <audioguy> Ah, thought so.
[01:07:36] <paulej72> that means that redeploying slash does not update the database
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[01:07:32] <audioguy> Meaning?
[01:07:12] <paulej72> good it does not come back with a redeploy
[01:06:51] <audioguy> Well, tht's progress. Soon wil be ablt to invent a light bulb. ;-)
[01:06:17] <paulej72> audioguy: I killed it on the dev vm, doing a deploy to see if it returns.
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[01:06:09] <audioguy> And now I am itently focues on finding a certain hook in the code to solve the htacces not working problem.
[01:05:28] <audioguy> I was working on a crib sheet when a palace coup interrupted.
[01:04:45] <audioguy> I don't actually remember the command to dlete...
[01:03:54] <audioguy> I actually have no experience with mysql specifically, but ... http://dev.mysql.com ;-)
[01:02:51] <paulej72> audioguy: the table is numbered on cdid so I can delete on that
[01:02:24] <paulej72> NCommander: got that
[01:02:21] <audioguy> So is mine...;-)
[01:02:12] <NCommander> paulej72, mysql -u root
[01:01:09] <paulej72> my my mysql command line stuff is rather rusty do think you could whip up a command to delete the second one
[01:00:02] <paulej72> audioguy: there are two lines with firehose.css as the file and users as the page.
[00:52:29] <audioguy> I need to finish my sql on slash cribsheet to make this easier.
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[00:50:45] <audioguy> How about that! Consistency, we need none of THAT!
[00:50:23] <paulej72> on vm it slashdev
[00:49:54] <audioguy> on slashcoot, the database name is altslashdot, so you need to check and don't assume it makes sense. ;-)
[00:48:57] <audioguy> yes, root works ;-)
[00:48:39] <paulej72> found it, I forgot i was slash, had to log into mysql as root
[00:48:38] <audioguy> ls /var/lib/mysql
[00:48:10] <audioguy> look in /var/lib/mysql. Youhave to use the right database name. I don;t know whatthat is for you, but it shiould be there
[00:47:50] <mattie_p> perl isn't my special snowflake ability
[00:47:40] <mattie_p> dunno - haven't tried it myself
[00:47:29] <audioguy> Try this: mysqldump altslashdot css
[00:47:18] <paulej72> but where is it?
[00:47:14] <mattie_p> I believe I got that info from NCommander
[00:46:57] <mattie_p> paulej72 according to what I heard, the db on dev vm is a fresh, out-of-the-box slash install
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[00:41:50] <martyb> later all!
[00:41:49] <martyb> paulej72: thanks for your understanding. it's the tired, I'm sure.
[00:41:35] <paulej72> on the VM i mean
[00:41:18] <paulej72> when I run mysql in on the db, there is only information_schema and test
[00:41:13] <audioguy> "/var/lib, not /usr"
[00:40:27] <audioguy> You mean the entries for firehose.css in table css? Don't know, can find out quickly though, I think...
[00:40:27] <paulej72> martyb: thats OK, you probably had double vision at the time: either too tired or too much of the drink
[00:40:22] <martyb> paulej72: looks like it *is* 20 characters.
[00:39:33] <martyb> paulej72: Please accept my appologies! I can't seem to count!!!
[00:39:29] <audioguy> It normally lives in usr/lib
[00:39:21] <paulej72> are the entries in the table identical?
[00:38:46] <audioguy> A while back, I thought NCommander tried it. But give it a shot, can't hurt. Maybe you have fixed the other problems by now.
[00:38:12] <paulej72> I can't find the db in vm
[00:37:55] <paulej72> I am not aware that was tried
[00:37:50] <audioguy> There was code in the other css that depended upon the firhose css, but maybe youhave fixed those dependencies?
[00:36:35] <audioguy> Maybe things have changed now.
[00:36:18] <audioguy> I thought this was tried once befroe with bad results, actually.
[00:35:42] <audioguy> I don't know, but slashcott is a good place to try it if thngs are going to break ;-)
[00:34:58] <audioguy> No, probably not.
[00:34:57] <paulej72> do you want to try that on slashcott. also is the db on the dev vm the same as slashcott?
[00:34:05] <paulej72> audioguy: that will not fix the bad css in firehose.css
[00:33:34] <audioguy> paul - You might try just deleting the duplicate copies of the firhose.ccc in databse table css first.
[00:33:11] <martyb> paulej72: Huh? Let me take another look.
[00:32:38] <paulej72> martyb: it is mentioned further down on the bug, but count the number of characters in those name and you will see it is 20. I think different parts of the code have different numbers
[00:32:22] <martyb> I know you've been wicked busy, so no biggee. Just want to make sure it doesn't get ummm over-fixed, yanoo?
[00:31:44] <martyb> if you look down further where I originally reported it, it states 39 characters, as well.
[00:31:27] <martyb> I can't change it (seem to lack write access), can you please correct it?
[00:30:54] <martyb> silent truncation on nickname is *39* characters, not 20.
[00:30:43] <martyb> Take a look at bug: https://github.com
[00:30:19] <paulej72> Yes I am here
[00:29:59] <martyb> just left a msg in #staff; hold on.
[00:29:55] <audioguy> My own inclination is to remove firehose from the code itself first, THEN delete the css.
[00:29:46] <martyb> paulej72: Oh, there you are!
[00:29:10] <audioguy> But I am game for a try - delete from the database to make a quick check
[00:28:41] <audioguy> Bad shit may happen. Didn;t we see this before?
[00:27:48] <paulej72> I have a notion to delete everything in firehose.css and see if anything happens
[00:11:16] <martyb> audioguy: no proublem!
[00:11:01] <audioguy> doubled ;-)
[00:10:54] <martyb> ;^)
[00:10:45] <martyb> audioguy: doouble doouble fire and troouble?
[00:10:26] <martyb> stderr: okay... just did a view source on both pages on my side; I see the same thing.
[00:10:16] <audioguy> They are doouble in the database itself.
[00:09:47] <audioguy> The firehose css is also not the only css that gets doubled, at times.
[00:08:58] <stderr> Removing both of those <link firehose.css> tags fixes the problem.
[00:08:03] <audioguy> It is added live in the call.
[00:07:48] <martyb> stderr: hmmm, I was using the "LiveHTTPHeaders" addon and just shared with you what went down the line... let me take another look.
[00:07:42] <audioguy> The T number is the slash version number
[00:06:54] <stderr> Same T for all of them.
[00:06:20] <stderr> ~stderr/ according to Chromium dev. tools: <title> (with lots of whitespace), <link base.css>, <link firehose.css>, <link firehost.css> again, <link slashcode.css>, <link print.css> and then <script>-tags.
[00:05:10] <stderr> Front page according to Chromium dev. tools: <title>, <link base.css>, <link slashcode.css>, <link print.css> and then a bunch of <script>-tags.
[00:04:43] <martyb> stderr: oops, missed that before those 3 is a get of base.css, with the same T "number"
[00:04:08] <martyb> stderr: all are T_2_5_0_272
[00:03:37] <martyb> stderr: I do not see that.... I see a get of firehose.css, then slashcode.css, and then print.css
[00:01:39] <stderr> And not included at all on the other pages as far as I can tell.
[00:00:39] <stderr> Right after each other... Same media and everything...
[00:00:20] <stderr> ODD!!! On ~stderr firehose.css is included twice.