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[00:23:04] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 291 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:04] <exec> 08└─You might be doing a cost/benefit analysis, and decided if the risks of breaking the law make the benefits worthwhile, which is only necessary if there is a risk. These laws were broken by the servants of your ruling class, so there is no real risk, as there will never be any consequences.
[00:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:06] <exec> 08└─But more importantly, I'm not sure why the usefulness of the collected data enters into the picture. The minute it's illegal, it's unacceptable - useful or not.
[00:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:13] <exec> 08└─It would be interesting in many use cases. Like we take dirty water, let the lighter shit float to the top and remove it. Then we vibrate it and let the heavier shit float on top and remove that. I bet that's easier and less wasteful than filtering at the bottom of the tank. Now if we could only fig...
[00:23:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:49] <exec> 08└─I should have expected that. So not a slippery slope, just a quick duct tape to be replaced by a solid ethical fix. Well, good job then, and I apologize for jumping the gun, you loser hippy on his 800th hour of looking at a fucking tree from his floater-mobile.
[00:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:51] <exec> 08└─That particular A/C is a flat-earther. Don't expect him to understand your excellent joke. Whoosh! is a phrase invented for him.
[00:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:53] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure I saw them play a gig in the early 90's.
[00:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:55] <exec> 08└─Suck it, noob. --TMB
[00:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:57] <exec> 08└─How is politics non-commercial when there's so much money involved?
[00:24:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 246 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:07] <exec> 08└─When I was young, I couldn't wait for the future we were promised in hopeful Sci-Fi stories. When I was barely into adulthood, I lamented that we didn't appear to be any closer to the future. Now I just see stories like this and cry for the past.
[00:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:27] <exec> 08└─My wife developed a template for all of her Humanities essays at University, including structure, layout of arguments, smart sounding phrasing etc. It also included standard paragraph opening lines and conclusions with little [insert here] markers for the appropriate spots. She would then take the t...
[00:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sonamchauhan [6546] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:28] <exec> 08└─Why attribute incompetence when ingenuity fits ?. :) Distopia, the distant utopia.
[00:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03sonamchauhan [6546] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:30] <exec> 08└─If this is a real school (not a MOOC), then teachers (or more accurately their management) are cheating students of teaching time. Is it any wonder they respond how they're taught?
[00:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HammeredGlass [12241] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Mistakenly Approved a Widely-Used Malware to Run on Macs - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:41] <exec> 08└─Facebook Google Microsoft etc.
[00:32:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Lunar Mining Looms, a Change of Perspective Could Protect Earth's Ancient Companion - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:29] <exec> 08└─There are a (very) few species of fish that can survive without water for extended periods, but I've never heard of fish eggs doing so. Unlike seeds which are dehydrated and chemically inert until activated, eggs are mostly water with a living embryo. Fish get trapped in ponds when floodwater recede...
[00:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Lunar Mining Looms, a Change of Perspective Could Protect Earth's Ancient Companion - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:30] <exec> 08└─Not to mention, at present I don't believe there is any country on Earth that has a credible claim to jurisdiction on the moon. Codified law generally doesn't exist until an area is occupied by a (quasi-)government willing and able to enforce it. And who's laws would apply? Almost everything is lega...
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[01:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:56] <exec> 08└─If it works like other stuff in Windows, expect real videos to labeled "fake" and viceversa! Not trusting this tool am I
[01:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:57] <exec> 08└─It works by detecting the blending boundary of the deepfake and subtle fading or greyscale elements that might not be detectable by the human eye.
[01:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:10] <exec> 08└─The spying isn't useless. the story is useless! the moderator is useless! you're all useless!
[01:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:12] <exec> 08└─Well it is the NSA we're talking about. Almost none of the three letter agencies really care about due process anymore. Just throw in the terrorist word and the law doesn't apply anymore - at least, no law that respect the constitution.
[01:23:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:14] <exec> 08└─These laws were broken by the servants of your ruling class, so there is no real risk, as there will never be any consequences.
[01:23:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:51] <exec> 08└─Eh, I really can't tell the difference between politics and goatse most days.
[01:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:02] <exec> 08└─I don't. I was making fun of the people here who regularly do.
[01:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:04] <exec> 08└─One is horrific and the other, uh, nevermind.
[01:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:36] <exec> 08└─This particular AP history class was about a bell curve, and once you had been placed on it- your position did not vary. FWIW, I aced the computer scored tests, so I could at least multiple choice better than the A-curve paper writers.
[01:26:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] 02 - 06Facebook Pilot Links User Profiles with Online News Subscriptions - 30 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:16] <exec> 08└─Can you even avoid FB anymore?
[01:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:09] <exec> 08└─Someone using Perl has no business criticizing Java or Garbage Collection. Nasty but only because it's true. :-)
[01:28:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:10] <exec> 08└─The ketone situation is complex. If you are not type I diabetic, ketones happen only when you're HYPOglycemic. They are part of the alternative metabolism that converts fats to ketones that the brain can use. Normally there's no problem with that, it starts well before the reserves of blood sugar be...
[01:32:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Lunar Mining Looms, a Change of Perspective Could Protect Earth's Ancient Companion - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:41] <exec> 08└─It probably was just a 100x uptick in infant survival, really wild, even the good habitat on the river was nowhere near as fish-dense as the ponds after the flood. Ordinary, non-flood ponding would attract turtles, otter, birds and alligators. Post flood there was just an amazing surplus of fish and...
[01:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Lunar Mining Looms, a Change of Perspective Could Protect Earth's Ancient Companion - 1361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:42] <exec> 08└─I suppose that depends on what you mean by a commercially significant presence. SpaceX's Starship is making a pretty good argument that we'll be able to land a 5-story building on the moon within the decade, maybe even by 2004, and then fly it back to Earth. Quite possibly more cheaply than we can c...
[01:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Lunar Mining Looms, a Change of Perspective Could Protect Earth's Ancient Companion - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:44] <exec> 08└─And who's laws would apply?
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[02:23:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:10] <exec> 08└─artificially produced test sets.. https://www.arxiv-vanity.com [arxiv-vanity.com] https://www.arxiv-vanity.com [arxiv-vanity.com] It will detect the test videos, sometimes.
[02:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:11] <exec> 08└─I am very uncomfortable with Microsoft, Google, Facebook, or any other tech giant preparing these argument from authority spiels. "Our algorithm blah blah blah with an nn% accuracy rate blah blah blah." It's all bullshit. CEO's and the like tell the engineers what they want, the engineers set about...
[02:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:28] <exec> 08└─We shouldn't even have those people here. It's nuts. They follow a violent belief system that prohibits accepting the legitimacy of our non-religious government. The belief system declares that we are inferior beings, to be enslaved and raped and killed. It also requires dishonesty toward us, and it...
[02:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:30] <exec> 08└─That's a fair description of the US's Dominionist cohort, except they call Allah God while the Somali Muslims call God Allah. Hm...it's almost like the entire Abrahamic family of religions is deeply diseased and insane.
[02:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:32] <exec> 08└─"I'm not out of order! YOU'RE out of order! You want the truth?! YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
[02:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:41] <exec> 08└─I bet that's easier and less wasteful than filtering at the bottom of the tank.
[02:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:43] <exec> 08└─From what I understand by reading this, you don't need to lift any water. Just making it vibrate at a certain frequency makes stuff heavier than water float to the top. Resonant vibration takes almost no energy. It's a small wave that propagates throughout the water. Think of it this way. Put a spea...
[02:24:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 52 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:24] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure I saw them play a gig in the early 90's.
[02:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:29] <exec> 08└─His professionalism is still lower than his modesty and level of consciousness on his intellectual limits.
[02:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:31] <exec> 08└─Funny. It was funny when it came out and is still worth watching now.
[02:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:33] <exec> 08└─Thanks TMB. And thank you Soylentils because this story has some of the funniest comments in a long while (well, except for fakefuck's of course ;) ).
[02:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:36] <exec> 08└─...there *are* limits to free speech. And they can be imposed from above by the ruling party, a sort of "governing body" if you will. And while this is more restrictions up-front than "say whatever wherever whenever," it actually improves quality of life and freedom and the free flow of information,...
[02:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:09] <exec> 08└─I really like that idea although I'd worry if all the essays contained some duplicate phrases that the teacher might notice them anyway. You can get tools that automatically vary the wording of a text though so it wouldn't be too hard to refine the technique.
[02:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:45] <exec> 08└─Not to mention, anyone looking at that post would probably be thinking he's nuttier than a 55-gallon drum of pickled squirrel testicles as it is...hooo-leee SHIT.
[02:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03evilcam [3239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China is Working to Double Nuclear Warheads in the Next Decade - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:43] <exec> 08└─My understanding is it's a bitch to sink a carrier.
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[03:23:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:23] <exec> 08└─It was plenty useful, just not on paper. You find a bunch of criminals, and use parallel construction to arrest them. You can't admit what you actually used in a court or it gets thrown out. A long time ago, while living in France, I was shopping around ebay for some chemicals, some water aspirators...
[03:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:24] <exec> 08└─Seems like they got scammed...
[03:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:27] <exec> 08└─Economic penalty? You sound like some sort of marxist. Just keep shoveling your tax money into those massively profitable corporations that might all fail because of Covid-19 like a good capitalist ok?
[03:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:29] <exec> 08└─I would say anyone who believes in a religion is by definition insane. It doesn't mean a god cannot exist. The chances of that are astronomically low based on the observable universe, to it's the same as making up a 3-assed space-pig and assuming that exists. so insane.
[03:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:31] <exec> 08└─I say we kick you out first.
[03:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:33] <exec> 08└─Economic penalty? You sound like some sort of marxist.
[03:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:35] <exec> 08└─The food is great though!
[03:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:46] <exec> 08└─Think of it this way. Put a speaker underwater and play a tone. You can hear it under the water. That's a vibration.
[03:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03everdred [110] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:34] <exec> 08└─Really? I'm pretty sure my post was Spam.
[03:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:36] <exec> 08└─With goatse, there's only one giver and one receiver. :-) And participation is by mutual agreement (I hope).
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[04:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Halts Oculus Quest Sales in Germany Amid Privacy Concerns - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:06] <exec> 08└─And all 3 prospective German customers were devastated.
[04:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:19] <exec> 08└─Not to worry- it'll soon figure out that Windows itself is a deepfake and delete it.
[04:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:47] <exec> 08└─The real problem is that it's unconstitutional, not that it's not useful. If it were useful, that would be worse, because it would apparently legitimize the unconstitutional, democracy-destroying mass surveillance in many people's eyes.
[04:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:48] <exec> 08└─That is some quality use of irony. You should classes for hipsters so they'll quit screwing it up.
[04:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:49] <exec> 08└─You don't, of course. Signal and noise. Posting something to a physical bulletin board: signal. Throwing a bucket of paint on it or posting tons of copies of the same thing that cover up other conversation: noise.
[04:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:51] <exec> 08└─He's funny to me. Mostly cause he's mastered something almost, but not quite, entirely unlike rational discourse. I have an odd sense of humor though.
[04:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:54] <exec> 08└─Well, there'll be a dozen or two more by the time it hits the repo (I like things done properly.) but this will do for the moment.
[04:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:56] <exec> 08└─No worries, yo. A good admin knows to make as many things his users' problems as he possibly can. Woe be unto those whose admin is also the code monkey.
[04:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:58] <exec> 08└─Partially intentional. Making it abundantly clear that us staff are not ever going to be some magical paragons of virtue or whatnot keeps you lot from being able to hold me to some higher standard than yourselves. You want to beat me in an argument, you're going to have to earn it; dragging it into...
[04:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:32] <exec> 08└─If that had happened to me in the 7th grade, my parents wouldn't have helped me cheat, they would've been down at the school admin office the next morning demanding to know why the teacher wasn't doing his/her job and what was going to be done about it.
[04:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:29:08] <exec> 08└─The Democratic platform is to reform the system.
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[05:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Halts Oculus Quest Sales in Germany Amid Privacy Concerns - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:19] <exec> 08└─Facebook requires that all persons who value their privacy refrain from buying Oculus products.
[05:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:31] <exec> 08└─Tell me again, why I should trust any of the megacorporations?
[05:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:32] <exec> 08└─Two possibilities. One, it doesn't work reliably, in which case it's useless. Two, it works reliably, in which case it will be used to train systems to produce better, undetectable deepfakes.
[05:23:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:34] <exec> 08└─Actually, I can prepare my own canned beans, LOL!
[05:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:05] <exec> 08└─Bless you, Now my turn.
[05:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:06] <exec> 08└─Nice and simple! That's the guy I want running the country.
[05:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:09] <exec> 08└─Not clear about what you're saying, Buzz? You are just a Arkansas version asshole, since moving to the "Mother of Arkansas" Tennessee? Or that your idea of professionalism is reducing yourself to the level of an apk, which I can totally see you doing. But, my point was, as a professional code-monkey...
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[06:23:00] <exec> 08└─It seems highly likely to me that this uses the exact same transparent screen technology that Xaomi was demonstrating just weeks ago [soylentnews.org] and the media were calling "useless".
[06:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:02] <exec> 08└─I'll bet the customer is government. Please, put cameras on devices that people won't tape over. That they won't put lens caps or other blockers on. And now, make it sound like a good thing! Yes, make our targets think you're doing them a favour, so they'll embrace it! Oh, and maybe we'll have enoug...
[06:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:04] <exec> 08└─"And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Xiaomi's new Abyss. Have a look.
[06:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:26] <exec> 08└─https://growagoodlife.com/canning-dried-beans/ [growagoodlife.com]
[06:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:27] <exec> 08└─Finally, we will know who is the real Runaway1956, and who is the DeepFake, althought it is possible that he has been down there so long, that not even Runawy1965 knows who Runaway1956 is. Untie the Right! Dyslexics for Congerass!!
[06:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:23:55] <exec> 08└─Cypher : You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? [Takes a bite of steak] Cypher : Ignorance is bliss.
[06:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:06] <exec> 08└─that's not how a wave works. if there's a piece of heavy stuff on top, the wave pushes it up, then the heavy stuff pushes it down as the wave goes down. that wave then goes to the bottom, pushes off the bottom, and comes back on top to push on the heavy stuff. heavy stuff stays on top. no energy is...
[06:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Weird Physics of Levitating Liquids and Upside-Down Buoyancy - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:07] <exec> 08└─Must've been nice in that magic universe of yours. Unfortunately, in our universe, you get to consume energy to keep the things excited when they would just want to come resting in the lowest potential energy possible. And, gosh, our universe is so perverse in finding ways to dissipate the energy yo...
[06:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Pilot Links User Profiles with Online News Subscriptions - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:35] <exec> 08└─And you don't complain?
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[07:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:02] <exec> 08└─Customers don't want this, or at least don't care about this, but these are what companies are offering. The small amount of space for a speaker and camera at the top of the phone and a few buttons on the bottom wasn't a problem. I suppose this is better than having notches on the screen. But I rath...
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[07:23:03] <exec> 08└─"Innovations" like these are what you do to differentiate your product from the competition when all products are basically identical. Camera notches, this behind the screen camera, etc., are the 21st century equivalent of tail fins on a car: attention getters that are completely unnecessary and tha...
[07:23:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:05] <exec> 08└─I would think that if a nefarious agent were behind this, that they would have kept it secret, so that no-one would suspect that the video display doubled as a camera to spy on them. Releasing this as a new feature on a phone sort of ruins the possibility of sneaking it into other models. Now folks...
[07:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:08] <exec> 08└─So it is no more useless, but useful for another useless feature. JK, a cam behind the screen has the big advantage of having the user watch the other guy and not the camera while chatting. Finally video chat resembles sf movies. Also, better telescreens, but I would not consider this an advance.
[07:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:10] <exec> 08└─"And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." Very deep. Soundd like the gynecologist motto.
[07:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:12] <exec> 08└─I guess not even their marketing dept realized that saving space and design are secondary advantages than putting a cam in the center of the screen you are using for videoconferencing. Some engineer should unglue from the videogame and tell em.
[07:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:36] <exec> 08└─Any such tool can be used in an adversarial approach to make the deep fake network escape the detection.
[07:25:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03loonycyborg [6905] 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 248 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:27] <exec> 08└─Applying some silly algorithm over large load of data isn't how intelligence works. So we shouldn't use term "artificial intelligence" for technologies like this. This insults all sapient beings. A more correct term would be "bruteforce computing".
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[08:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:16] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter if you see a grey square above someone's head in a Zoom call.
[08:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:17] <exec> 08└─I agree: this might be boon for videoconferencing. On the other hand, it might just slip into uncanny valley. Humans are very good at noticing slight oddities, and if the camera is in roughly the right place, but not exactly the right place it could well be noticeable at a subliminal level. People m...
[08:23:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:20] <exec> 08└─In fact putting it at a golden ratio instead of the center on the vertical axis might help further.
[08:23:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:47] <exec> 08└─Unless they trained them with the videos Ghislaine Maxwell may leak, so that they are all tagged fake. We're talking about microsoft here, that's one step lower than the average corporation which is one step lower than the average mafia cartel.
[08:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:16] <exec> 08└─Unless that other someone was parallelconstructing your case. And you won't really know if he was.
[08:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:28] <exec> 08└─Must be a JS thing.. I don't see it.
[08:29:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:29:40] <exec> 08└─It's problematic in that it's a very ambiguous term, in particular it opens the gates for hardliners to claim it means "abolish the police". The sentiment is right but the marketing isn't so good. Maybe "demilitarise the police" would be a better term, it doesn't quite cover the same ground but it's...
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[09:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Noble Metals Dissolved without Aqua Regia - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:03] <exec> 08└─Or at least no-one's ever proven that it doesn't, there was no trace of gold left in the crater afterwards.
[09:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Noble Metals Dissolved without Aqua Regia - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:05] <exec> 08└─Aqua regia will give you chloride ions and nitrate ions in solution. This new mix give you chloride ions and nitrate ions in solution. Sounds like they've created hydrated sameoldium sameoldiate.
[09:23:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Noble Metals Dissolved without Aqua Regia - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:07] <exec> 08└─Well, maybe ClF5 [wikipedia.org] then. I mean, only noble gases, nitrogen, oxygen and fluorine won't react with it.
[09:23:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Noble Metals Dissolved without Aqua Regia - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:09] <exec> 08└─Sounds like they've created hydrated sameoldium sameoldiate.
[09:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:28] <exec> 08└─Good thinking but hiding in plain sight is the only long term viable option. Nobody can leak what is already out there. Sooner or later one repairman would notice strange circuitry. So they simply advertise the feature. Same as publishing the patents for coronaviruses, in fact.
[09:23:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Halts Oculus Quest Sales in Germany Amid Privacy Concerns - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:23:38] <exec> 08└─I ordered a VR set from Valve - 8+ weeks wait...
[09:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:26] <exec> 08└─So, I am insane?
[09:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:38] <exec> 08└─> the folks using any other downmod on obvious Spam As a noobtard... the spam was trollish and flamey so I clicked the first mod that got rid of it from my screen. I didn't realise there was a technical difference. Sorry bout that.
[09:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but your parents would have still been raised with expectations of humanity [wikipedia.org] in our social structures. Nowadays, anything resembling that is considered quaint and maladjusted.
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[09:28:28] <exec> 08└─Was disappointed.
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[10:23:15] <exec> 08└─the list of things that dissolve gold, order by ascending efficiency. 1. this thing 2. acqua regia 3. girlfriend 4. wife 5. ex wife
[10:23:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:23:36] <exec> 08└─It sounds like Nietzsche [reddit.com].
[10:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:34] <exec> 08└─Throw a kebab on top of Eritrean or Ethiopean food and you have the same thing without the crazy.
[10:24:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:35] <exec> 08└─The NSA spying has exposed a critical weakness in the American republic. That agency willfully violated the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, and the people in that agency who directed it to do so are suffering no consequences for the epic abuse of millions of Americans (well, all of them,...
[10:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:37] <exec> 08└─So, I am insane?
[10:24:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:40] <exec> 08└─> nobody's going to jail or anything for it Nobody except Snowden?
[10:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:42] <exec> 08└─There is an assumption in your logic - that breaking the law has to be associated with a penalty. This is the case for criminal law but not civil law. I rather think the constitution is more like civil law.
[10:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:44] <exec> 08└─https://rationalwiki.org/w/images/8/8d/American_Taliban.jpg [rationalwiki.org]
[10:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:46] <exec> 08└─Wow, that is some unabashed dehumanization.
[10:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:48] <exec> 08└─I would say anyone who believes in a religion is by definition insane
[10:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:50] <exec> 08└─So, who has standing to sue for violating the constitution, under your civil law assumption?
[10:25:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 20 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:43] <exec> 08└─Suck it, noob. --TMB
[10:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:04] <exec> 08└─[Grabbing bucket of popcorn and propping feet up] No, no. Don't mind me. I'm just enjoying the show between you two.
[10:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:05] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, I betcha TMB would not touch that job with a ten foot pole. Seems I always seem to have to choose between D and R, neither of which much appeal to me. But as long as they are bickering, neither gets anything done. And that's usually a good thing.
[10:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:42] <exec> 08└─This list of examples from a single guy sounds utterly ridiculous, but it isn't. This is how bad some schools are these days. The writer was AC, but I'll sign my name here to support that what it is said is actually correct.
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[11:23:57] <exec> 08└─That's the real kicker, isn't it? I mean, if I were to decide to break the law, I would expect to gain something from it. I think most people expect to gain something from breaking the law. Whether that gain be 2 seconds from running a stop sign, or a few thousand dollars gained through theft, we wa...
[11:31:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03qzm [3260] 02 - 06US Hails New Milestone in Development of Hypersonic Weapons - 621 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:31:02] <exec> 08└─Of course, why do you think all of the heads of the tech corps are working so hard supporting 'socialism'? Is it because they believe in wealth redistribution? perhaps they believe in the removal of property ownership? No, its because socialism ALWAYS includes a ruling class, and they see themselves...
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[12:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:23:00] <exec> 08└─That's better than fusion by half, twice as likely to actually happen. (2x0 = what?)
[12:31:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Hails New Milestone in Development of Hypersonic Weapons - 2902 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah I was struck by the coincidence too. As I write here, the sort of tech and social organization used to create, say, hypersonic nuclear missiles out of fear could instead make the world a better place out of joy: https://pdfernhout.net [...
[12:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Hails New Milestone in Development of Hypersonic Weapons - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:22] <exec> 08└─... to use the technology of abundance to create artificial scarcity instead.
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[13:23:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Complains, Apple Responds: iOS 14's big Privacy Change Gets Postponed - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:03] <exec> 08└─This is is definitely a disappointing time for Apple to start listening to developer complaints. Not horribly surprising, given facebook’s reach, especially with an upcoming election, but disappointing.
[13:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Complains, Apple Responds: iOS 14's big Privacy Change Gets Postponed - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:05] <exec> 08└─-You can't TELL them we are spying on them, then they wont let us spy! -oh, ok.
[13:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:42] <exec> 08└─It probably wasn't particularly useful in this case as the money had to get out of the country and to those groups somehow. Given the amount of attention that money traveling through the banking system gets, I'd be surprised if they were really counting on phone details for the conviction. More like...
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[13:24:43] <exec> 08└─The big issue with this is that it's bullshit. I don't know about the laws over there, but in the US, they would need a lot more than you going slightly over the speed limit in order to do any investigation. Going a bit over the speed limit would allow them to pull the vehicle over and not much else...
[13:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:45] <exec> 08└─It's been ages, but isn't this one also the one that ultimately got Assange in all that trouble?
[13:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:48] <exec> 08└─Not really, why do you think the mentally ill are subhuman?
[13:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:50] <exec> 08└─See, that is the beauty of it, since they spied of everyone the loss is felt evenly among "all" Americans and so no one does! Its the perfect crime!
[13:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:05] <exec> 08└─It’s all a matter of what’s inside the ring.
[13:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:43] <exec> 08└─Years ago when I took a journalism class, the teacher was fond of warning us "not to allow Bill Gates to correct our work." And there was a good reason for that, computers at the time did a shit job of checking grammar. They're still bad at it, but they've gotten a lot better. AI like this is someth...
[13:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:45] <exec> 08└─Giving the teachers what they ask for is more or less what the K-12 education is about. The teachers are supposed to be asking for things that are in alignment with the state standards and the state standards are supposed to be in alignment with what the students need for college or whatever comes n...
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[14:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:24] <exec> 08└─60 megawatts is small... Give us 20 kilowatts, one for each home, right there in the basement. You get free hot water too.
[14:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:25] <exec> 08└─The modular reactors are light-water reactors, which are the vast majority of reactors now operating. But modular reactors are designed to use less water than traditional reactors and have a passive safety system so they shut down without human action should something go wrong. Key features of this...
[14:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Noble Metals Dissolved without Aqua Regia - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:23:46] <exec> 08└─Bad solution. Should've try diamonds.
[14:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:08] <exec> 08└─Yeah, a few buttons and a speaker grill give a device a bit of character. A plain, wafer-thin, rounded cuboid that looks like little more than a disembodied screen is dull as fuck, and these trends mean all smartphones look the same. Then there's the appalling ergonomics. I fully agree with the othe...
[14:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:10] <exec> 08└─Bad analogy in one way though because the tail fins are a huge visual cue whereas this behind-screen camera presumably won't be seen at all which will just make the phone look featureless and bland. I suppose the nearest car analogy would be a de-chromed, de-bumpered custom with shaved door handles....
[14:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Halts Oculus Quest Sales in Germany Amid Privacy Concerns - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:21] <exec> 08└─The more headlines there are like this, hopefully the greater the awareness of the privacy implications (and ideally less cultural acceptance of them). Still, how many people would even see this headline outside of Nerdland, except possibly in Germany? I bet there's a pretty significant proportion o...
[14:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:41] <exec> 08└─Can't they just feed this same algorithm back into the adversarial side of the generative adversarial network that is being used to create the deepfakes? That's the whole underlying structure of the algorithm in the first place "Evolve to fool this thing that evolves to correctly identify the thing...
[14:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:26] <exec> 08└─isn't there a whistle blower law protecting people who tell on those who are breaking the law? Shouldn't Snowden get some protection under that law: he exposed the US government doing illegal things. Snowden should be hailed as a hero: instead, he's a criminal in exile who exposed criminals who are...
[14:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 852 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:22] <exec> 08└─Other aspect of schooling beyond regurgitation: https://www.life-enthusiast.com [life-enthusiast.com] "Look again at the seven lessons of school teaching: confusion, class position, indifference, emotional and intellectual dependency, conditional self-es...
[14:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:24] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOT3BvhjXcA [youtube.com] Also: https://inallthings.org [inallthings.org] And in general: https://archive.org [archive.org] One major perspective problem in the USA is that people confus...
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[15:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wool-Like Material Can Remember and Change Shape - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:59] <exec> 08└─but would it be self drying?
[15:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:10] <exec> 08└─I need 1.21 Jiggawatts! -Marty
[15:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:11] <exec> 08└─Yea...I was hoping this was going to be Thorium finally getting put to use. Still, it sounds like incremental improvements, rather than a running and hiding from big bad nuclear. Let's just hope this unmeltdownable reactor doesn't hit an iceberg, because that'd set us back decades yet again.
[15:23:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:13] <exec> 08└─American reactors have been able to shut themselves down automatically for decades. The moment they lose power to the core, the control rods fall in and the fuel rods fall out. There's nothing particularly new about that which wasn't possible decades ago.
[15:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:15] <exec> 08└─What you describe is an active system. There are failure modes whereby the control rods are not dropped/etc. High pressure water reactors have a passive system - if the water gets too hot, the density decreases so that the water becomes a worse moderator and the reaction slows. Note this prevents th...
[15:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:18] <exec> 08└─I always had a problem with gravity. It only works if the center of gravity did not shift. Should it not be spring loaded? I am sure they thought of this, but spring loaded seems more likely to work even in case where the CG moves due to some bad things happening.
[15:23:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Complains, Apple Responds: iOS 14's big Privacy Change Gets Postponed - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:27] <exec> 08└─In 2020, you have to have been living under one massive rock to think Facebook - or Google, or Amazon, or Microsoft, or indeed Apple, or any goddamn big data company - isn't tracking you. Nobody needs Apple to tell them that. And that's the scary part: peoeple know, yet they don't give a rat's ass a...
[15:23:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 456 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:23:46] <exec> 08└─I'll bet the customer is government. Please, put cameras on devices that people won't tape over. That they won't put lens caps or other blockers on. And now, make it sound like a good thing! Yes, make our targets think you're doing them a favour, so they'll embrace it! Oh, and maybe we'll have enoug...
[15:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:02] <exec> 08└─"... they're all just flat rounded cuboids" Just like all today's cars are bubble-rectangleoids with rounded corners! I just found a BETTER CAR ANALOGY!
[15:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tork [3914] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:03] <exec> 08└─It seems highly likely to me that this uses the exact same transparent screen technology that Xaomi was demonstrating just weeks ago [soylentnews.org] and the media were calling "useless".
[15:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:05] <exec> 08└─People move around, and heads appear in different positions on screens, so the camera (or cameras) may not correspond exactly with the potion of the pupil(s) of the displayed image, so the gaze direction of the person viewing the screen will be slightly off. Humans are very sensitive to gaze directi...
[15:24:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 1211 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:24] <exec> 08└─I am very uncomfortable with Microsoft, Google, Facebook, or any other tech giant preparing these argument from authority spiels. "Our algorithm blah blah blah with an nn% accuracy rate blah blah blah." It's all bullshit. CEO's and the like tell the engineers what they want, the engineers set about...
[15:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces a Deepfake Detector Tool - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:34] <exec> 08└─Shh, don't tell anybody. We could enter an infinite funding loop.
[15:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:20] <exec> 08└─So can I assume that was you who started this subthread to begin with?
[15:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:21] <exec> 08└─Hell yes you're insane, and not just because of what you believe. You claim to hold certain moral positions and act and speak in ways directly counter to them. That sounds like insanity to me. Your constant adulation of the Canaanite Genocide Fairy is a big part of the pathology but it's not the who...
[15:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:23] <exec> 08└─If you wave enough American flags, it's not a crime. Read the Constitution.
[15:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:26] <exec> 08└─Ah he still believes in fairy tales. Time to put down the toy whistle, son.
[15:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:28] <exec> 08└─You claim to hold certain moral positions and act and speak in ways directly counter to them. That sounds like insanity to me
[15:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:43] <exec> 08└─Butbutbutbut MUH FREEZE PEACH! Please, you're a goddamn hypocrite. You're always about the fewest restrictions up front and your whole worldview is "fuck you I won't do what you tell me." Idiot rebel without a clue. Welcome to the tragedy of the commons; some 2000+ years of history, philosophy, and...
[15:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:44] <exec> 08└─Once I bribe you you'll understand.
[15:26:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:46] <exec> 08└─But, my point was, as a professional code-monkey, you should never take it personally.
[15:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:49] <exec> 08└─Tragedy of the commons implies that a commonly used resource is not maintained by the beneficiaries. It is closer to the opposite of what is happening here - enabling and enhancing maintenance (moderation) by the beneficiaries of the commons (in this case the forums). Additionally this is not a...
[15:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 5822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:31] <exec> 08└─"Public Schools Look Like Prisons For A Reason!" https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] "Prison vs. School" https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Also: https://themindunleashed.com [themindu...
[15:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules Geofence Warrants are Unconstitutional - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:42] <exec> 08└─Don't know yet. What am I looking for?
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[16:23:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wool-Like Material Can Remember and Change Shape - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:15] <exec> 08└─There might be many applications of this technology. What if textiles could straighten out when removed from the dryer, as if they had just been ironed? What if flags could stiffen when blown (cooled down) by wind? What cloth based auto body panels could remain rigid -- as long as you don't get them...
[16:23:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wool-Like Material Can Remember and Change Shape - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:17] <exec> 08└─Neo sez, "Whoa!"
[16:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wool-Like Material Can Remember and Change Shape - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:19] <exec> 08└─Lone Ranger: Woe! Neo: Party on Dudes!
[16:23:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:34] <exec> 08└─Wait, is that the new math, isn't the answer always 2 or was it 5? No, no, 3 sir! 3! Wait, no, I think this one is a trick question.
[16:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:35] <exec> 08└─And had enough of them to only use a partial set at any one time. The problem with springs is that given too much time sprung they can seize, bind, or otherwise lose their mechanical force. Given that this is a reactor that may be lasting 20+ years with little or no maintenance (if I am remembering...
[16:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Gives First-Ever OK for Small Commercial Nuclear Reactor - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:37] <exec> 08└─Go all the way, don’t forget it’s idiocracy out there: Unicorn Rainbow Magic Power Booster
[16:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Complains, Apple Responds: iOS 14's big Privacy Change Gets Postponed - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:49] <exec> 08└─You just know there was one.
[16:24:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Behind-the-Screen Cameras Come to Smartphones - 297 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:14] <exec> 08└─So it is no more useless, but useful for another useless feature. JK, a cam behind the screen has the big advantage of having the user watch the other guy and not the camera while chatting. Finally video chat resembles sf movies. Also, better telescreens, but I would not consider this an advance.
[16:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Halts Oculus Quest Sales in Germany Amid Privacy Concerns - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:38] <exec> 08└─I noticed that a month or two ago. I also noticed that the prices on e-bay for an Index, were in most cases, more than buying a new one. I guess they're having some supply issues and/or there's been a massive uptick in the number of people wanting to purchase a Valve Index. It would be hilarious, if...
[16:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:51] <exec> 08└─Until someone is willing to 'call in' the debt from outside the system, there is no way for individuals inside the system to prove the coffers are dry. Thanks to all currency being replaced with not just fiat, but actually 'virtual' currency, it's easy to make up whatever numbers are needed, and tha...
[16:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:52] <exec> 08└─You forgot to log in, Fusty :)
[16:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:55] <exec> 08└─Even worse was UK government threatening to shut down a newspaper unless they returned/destroyed files.
[16:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03leon_the_cat [10052] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSA Spying Exposed by Snowden Was Illegal and Not Very Useful, Court Says - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:57] <exec> 08└─and misleading. It generalizes "not very useful" but the article is specific to a case.
[16:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 2529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:18] <exec> 08└─The logic here doesn't make sense. I don't agree with barbara hudson about banning AC posting. I work in the public sector and frequently criticize my employer's COVID-19 decisions and their management on other matters. If I had to create an account, I'd probably be less willing to post here. That s...
[16:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Loser Noobs and Their Contributions to the Site - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:20] <exec> 08└─I agree that the use of moderation as an agree/disagree vote is a problem and requires limits on mod points. I understand this is a major reason why admins won't police moderation. But spam mods are already carved out as an exception and editors do review those. So if the editors can agree to review...
[16:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:03] <exec> 08└─https://www.cbsnews.com/news/professor-jessica-krug-admits-she-lied-about-being-black-george-washington-university/ [cbsnews.com]
[16:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Students Figured Out their Tests Were Graded by AI -- And The Easy Way to Cheat - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:04] <exec> 08└─I think the word we are all actually looking for with stuff like the fancy AI freeform short answer checker is "regex."
[16:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules Geofence Warrants are Unconstitutional - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:18] <exec> 08└─I generally agree with you except one but perhaps the most important point. I don't believe any more that individual actions can change anything at this point. I believe there will be blood. Civil war in worst case. The best case scenario is shock therapy Pinochet style. I make my plans according to...
[16:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:47] <exec> 08└─There is that self-righteous anger assuming anyone sent to prison deserves whatever happens to them. Pretty cravem.
[16:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:48] <exec> 08└─Back to the important part where a non-violent person is jailed ovef posession and then allowed to die without medical aid. Fuck you and your ridiculous anger at anything and everything that tweaks your nose.
[16:31:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:51] <exec> 08└─Why should AC be removed? The options to ignore ACs are decent enough. Or do you simply want to be able to know who says what?
[16:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06When Asthma in Jail Becomes a Death Sentence - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:53] <exec> 08└─It was Bill Clinton who was the latest architect. He "reformed" - destroyed - welfate system and with the help of libirals built zero tolerance policies pretty much everywhere. The result was that all who left welfare went to prisons. That's exactly why poor hate Clintons and voted Trump to the offi...
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