#comments | Logs for 2020-04-23

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[00:00:11] <exec> 08└─The market acts against monopoly rents...
[00:00:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:13] <exec> 08└─When you've finished with Smith, cover Aristotle [libertyfund.org] and come back when you have a grown-up argument in place of silly name calling. 150 years to the day since the birth of Lenin and some people have not only failed to learn but would willingly repeat the disaster.
[00:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Open-Source Program Deepfakes You During Zoom Meetings, in Real Time - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:22] <exec> 08└─On a dating app you might want to deepfake yourself as a younger version of yourself for a better first impression -- that won't immediately be recognized as a flat-out lie when you meet in person. -- hendrik
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[00:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06the New Yorker Adds Co-Op to its Online Crossword Puzzles - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:19] <exec> 08└─All of his answers were long and rambling, and didn't fit in the space provided.
[00:58:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06the New Yorker Adds Co-Op to its Online Crossword Puzzles - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:21] <exec> 08└─NO ID2020 NO MICROCHIP NO MARK WO2020060606 here is the patent for Microsoft 1. WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA , look at the patent number, literally "world order 2020 666" this from the same guy who is publicly saying he wants to put microchip tracking on every human...
[00:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06the New Yorker Adds Co-Op to its Online Crossword Puzzles - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:23] <exec> 08└─I don't understand. What is this? No, seriously, I am not trolling. What the fuck is it yepping about?
[00:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:58:43] <exec> 08└─We all know that Pai has already decided the outcome - any response from the firefighters (or anyone else for that matter) is just going to be binned without being read. In a sense, he's done them a favour, preventing them from having to work on a submission that will make no difference anyway.
[01:00:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:00:30] <exec> 08└─Copying is cheap but R&D is an expensive sunk cost that a business and investors have to recover before profit. Nothing here dictates being an asshole and annoying your customers, so why people are reading my comments as a defense of JD is a mystery to me? We've seen industrial manufacturers trying...
[01:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:00:31] <exec> 08└─"The managers and engineers creating all this DRMed junk aren't a bunch of wasteful west-coasters pushing DRM on honest midwesterners, this is midwesterners doing it to themselves." I give you a hundred to one on the odds for the vast majority of them, being from schools that teach this garbage to t...
[01:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Stealthy Little Drones that Fly Like Insects - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:00:50] <exec> 08└─Windows, eh? My homework!...
[01:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06This Open-Source Program Deepfakes You During Zoom Meetings, in Real Time - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:42] <exec> 08└─tale as old as time beauty and the beast
[01:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court Rules Non-Unanimous Jury Verdicts Unconstitutional - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:03:11] <exec> 08└─"The main difference is that in common law, you are supposed to judge in conformity with past cases, whereas in Napoleonic law the judge just has to read the law" Well, that's not wrong. The main difference is actually that common law precedes the state, the state relies on it for authority and is t...
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[01:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06the New Yorker Adds Co-Op to its Online Crossword Puzzles - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:58:36] <exec> 08└─Have you seen what it’s like out there, Murray? Do you ever actually leave the studio? Everybody just yells and screams at each other. Nobody’s civil anymore. Nobody thinks what it’s like to be the other guy. You think men like Thomas Wayne ever think what it’s like to be someone like me? To...
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[01:58:37] <exec> 08└─I tried your online co-op feature and it paired me up with someone named apk. All of his answers were long and rambling, and didn't fit in the space provided.
[01:58:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:59:00] <exec> 08└─Don't forget Nostradamus. In his crazy drug induced ramblings, you can find "proof" of anything and everything. Who needs the Turner Diaries, when you can fall back on Nostradamus?
[02:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06This Open-Source Program Deepfakes You During Zoom Meetings, in Real Time - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:01] <exec> 08└─It just might work... I have worked among those who would not recognize Eliza. As long as it wore an expensive suit and alluded to extensive wealth and expensive lifestyles, it might pass muster. Everyone would be afraid of it. The emporer has no clothes. And sometimes makes no sense either. But you...
[02:03:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court Rules Non-Unanimous Jury Verdicts Unconstitutional - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:03:31] <exec> 08└─It wasn't me! Somebody is impersonating me!
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[02:57:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacker Used Stolen Active Directory Credentials to Ransom Hospitals - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:57:50] <exec> 08└─Gandalf still hasn't given us the magic incantations and rituals that will keep critical infrastructure "safe" while connected to the World Wide Webs? Imagine that. One more time, people. This can be easily fixed, just by disconnecting. Build a dedicated network, and STRICTLY enforce connections to...
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[02:57:52] <exec> 08└─Jared's starting a task force tomorrow. Barron's going to handle the cyber.
[02:58:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06the New Yorker Adds Co-Op to its Online Crossword Puzzles - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:58:05] <exec> 08└─Thanks.
[02:59:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ancient Recipes Led Scientists to a Long-Lost Natural Blue - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:21] <exec> 08└─I have a program that reports the color at the mouse pointer. The darker of the 2 cloths in the middle of the JPEG you linked gives an average value about 0x081042. That's a pretty good blue for a natural plant substance.
[02:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ChrisMaple [6964] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ancient Recipes Led Scientists to a Long-Lost Natural Blue - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:22] <exec> 08└─You were boring when you did this at slashdot, and you're boring now. Go away.
[02:59:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ancient Recipes Led Scientists to a Long-Lost Natural Blue - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:59:24] <exec> 08└─Someone claiming copyright on that recipe, Turns out it was Disney’s great great great great great (10 more) grandfather who invented it And his copyright on that recipe is still in force, you are going to have to retract the recipe and withdraw all claim to it.
[03:00:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:15] <exec> 08└─Well the engineers probably largely went to school on the east coast, because that's where most tech schools are. The managers could have gone anywhere though. They teach that crap in MBA schools everywhere (in the US) these days. Also, Iowa isn't really a place a lot of non-midwestern people would...
[03:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Study Finds Raw-Type Dog Foods A Major Source Of Multidrug-Resistant Bacteria - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:04:13] <exec> 08└─You don't work in a meat packing plant, so you are OK with adding a new hazard that will never affect you -- only someone ELSE.
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[03:58:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacker Used Stolen Active Directory Credentials to Ransom Hospitals - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:58:06] <exec> 08└─You can't do that! The good folks at Government Inc. needs remote access. Think of the children! /s
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[03:58:07] <exec> 08└─Trump reportedly threatened to fire a top doctor at the CDC for sounding the alarm about the coronavirus in February [businessinsider.com] oh. woops.
[03:59:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Ancient Recipes Led Scientists to a Long-Lost Natural Blue - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:59:39] <exec> 08└─I've told you before I RUN MY OWN BUSINESS & actually have WORTH + real estate holdings galore!
[04:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Adds Two Quad-Cores to the Zen 2 Ryzen 3000 Lineup - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:03] <exec> 08└─AMD Has Updated The Ryzen 3 1200 CPU With 12nm Zen+ Architecture [wccftech.com]
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[05:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Open-Source Program Deepfakes You During Zoom Meetings, in Real Time - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:38] <exec> 08└─I can finally outsource myself and rip all the difference.
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[05:58:31] <exec> 08└─He can just make a ruling with the other rubber stamps on the committee and wait for the courts to make him listen to emergency services again. That should get him through the rest of his term and, having done the bidding of his masters, it's back to his cushy job at Verizon (or whichever telecom ro...
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[05:58:42] <exec> 08└─Gotta admit, Nostradamus is brilliant, you can interpret, after the event obviously, anything you want back into his "predictions".
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[06:57:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:57:51] <exec> 08└─https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/04/22/iran-places-military-satellite-in-orbit/ [spaceflightnow.com] https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com [nasaspaceflight.com]
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[06:57:52] <exec> 08└─All nations are equal, but some are not allowed to send up satellites? All nations have the same rights to self-defense, but some cannot have nukes? And who gets to determine which nations these are? USA is a fucking hypocrite. Until the US stops launching military satellites into space, and gives...
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[06:58:09] <exec> 08└─That Gandalf The White shit sounds racist as fuck to me man.
[06:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:58:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah, forget Pai and the FCC. Talk directly to the telecoms. They aren't being forced to abandon network neutrality, only allowed. Threats of lawsuits and that the rules may come back in November should be persuasive arguments not to be too hasty to dump neutrality.
[07:00:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:36] <exec> 08└─Yes...feeding the troll it is. And thank you sincerely for clarifying. You squarely fall in the "can't tell theory from practice" camp (possibly Asperger related) with some Venn diagram overlap into the other categories I'd mentioned. Possibly also with some socially-sanctioned "greed is good" socio...
[07:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Stealthy Little Drones that Fly Like Insects - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:56] <exec> 08└─What I have been getting lately, is, my dog ate my internet connection. Mostly Wifi. But you know how puppies are. Especially Sad Puppies!!
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[07:58:03] <exec> 08└─MAKE AMERICA LOBOTOMIZED AGAIN ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Untold Story of JFK's Sister, Rosemary Kennedy, and Her Disastrous Lobotomy https://people.com [people.com] The Forgott...
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[07:58:21] <exec> 08└─Once the coronavirus politicking and backslapping is over, perhaps there will be some analysis of the sorry state of IT, supplies and capacity in the US health care system.
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[08:58:18] <exec> 08└─That seems unlikely. Especially an honest appraisal of IT and security. More money in fixing broken stuff forever.
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[08:58:54] <exec> 08└─Start publishing a list of FCC, and any telecom who violates net neutrality, properties with the notation "Emergency Services are Required to Stop for Coffee and Donuts Before Attending These Locations".
[08:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Starlink-6 Launched Wed 2020-04-22 15:30 EDT (19:30 UTC): Successful! [Updated] - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:59:32] <exec> 08└─That's very impressive on its own. With 10 seconds to MECO they analysed and compensated for an engine failure.
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[09:57:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toxin-Producing Bacteria Can Make This Newt Deadly - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:57:56] <exec> 08└─I'm not interested enough to find out what THIS newt actually is.
[09:59:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:59:01] <exec> 08└─I'd expect a tech site to do better. Network neutrality is about the network being neutral. It will deliver packets irrespective of the remote endpoint. It will not prioritise, for example, packets for Amazon Prime Video over ones for Netflix. Reducing speed of all customers when they go over a usag...
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[10:00:36] <exec> 08└─This is confusing. If it's under warranty make the manufacturer repair it. If it's not then what warranty do you have to worry about voiding?
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[10:57:54] <exec> 08└─Got my new Chinese apology for the day! Vicious virus unleashed on the world... apologies, test-tube dropped due to "an oversight by the editor" Milk powder kills dozens of babies... apologies, melamine mixed in due to "an oversight by the editor" Uighurs held in inhuman conditions in concentration...
[10:57:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:57:56] <exec> 08└─post Google Play, Huawei can only lure potential customers by bamboozling them with marketing.
[10:57:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:57:58] <exec> 08└─I know this exact thing happened before.
[10:57:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:58:00] <exec> 08└─Because on the IRC channel, as soon as that story was submitted to the story queue, I announced in a clear voice that they were just copying the trick Nokia pulled nearly a decade ago with their PureView 920 advert: https://www.theverge.com Curious...
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[10:58:09] <exec> 08└─This. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[10:58:11] <exec> 08└─The end times are here, the food supply chain is breaking down and we've got to start eating more varmints. So chip in and stop being poisonous.
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[10:58:14] <exec> 08└─>> we've got to start eating more varmints Chinamen eating varmints is what got us into this mess in the first place... eat beef and chicken, like God intended.
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[11:58:03] <exec> 08└─Also, what's this (from the huawei write-up): 1/1.28-inch sensor That's basically a *2cm* sensor to those who use real units. Where the frick do they have the room for a 2cm sensor in a phone? Lies, damn lies, and marketting...
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[11:58:04] <exec> 08└─Yup: https://www.theverge.com [theverge.com] There's still plenty of cheating going on in the smartphone industry: https://www.anandtech.com
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[11:58:07] <exec> 08└─I like your numbers better. I read that as "quantity 1 of 1.28 inch sensors".
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[12:00:01] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you are referring to humans. The computer(s) in the rocket did the adjustment automatically. It's arguably not a very complex operation. The top priority is getting the payload to its destination. Booster recovery is a secondary objective. Maybe third if you count safety of the booster h...
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[12:01:16] <exec> 08└─Sure, but capitalism is everywhere and will always be. There is as much wrong with capitalism as there is with getting sunburnt. Our societies on earth have decided to be different on how to regulate capitalism, some wish no regulation at all and some adapt capitalism as a tool to better society by...
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[12:59:18] <exec> 08└─[sarc] Sure glad he did such a good job at getting rid of top-level corruption. You know, just for removing corruption and political placemen, I would vote for him 10 times over. Shame I'm not a USian so can't vote at all! Congrats to all Trump supporters for getting Pai in. #MAGA! [/sarc]
[12:59:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:59:19] <exec> 08└─Exactly. The fire department had a contracted data plan that included throttling when they hit a bandwidth limit. Morons on the internet kept saying this was a net neutrality issue. Did AT&T pay more for having packet priority over Verizon? No. That is what net neutrality is.
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[13:01:15] <exec> 08└─Current environmental protection laws make it illegal to modify a tractor's emission related operation. Manufacturers use this as cover to add countermeasures to which support 'I own your tractor'. Perhaps the environmental rules could make it clear that the job of the manufacturer is to design a wo...
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[13:57:58] <exec> 08└─I'll vote for the Intel Pentium anyway - for exactly the reason mentioned in the summary - the FDIV bug [wikipedia.org] was handed in a monumentally terrible way. It was the Boeing 737 MAX of its day. Remember this is a company stuffed to the gills with some of smartest engineers that could be found...
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[13:57:59] <exec> 08└─They mention the TMS9900 as a "bad CPU" without mentioning the TI-99/4a which probably had one of the worst architectures? Imagine running your video card over a parallel port - and that also doubles as your machines main memory. Your BIOS/OS is all written in a slow interpreted language. And all yo...
[13:58:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:01] <exec> 08└─The TMS9900 is actually a good processor. I guess they just think it's a "worst" CPU because it didn't see more widespread use?
[13:58:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:03] <exec> 08└─That processor was great. A lot cheaper than Intel's processors and very fast integer performance. Sure the FPU was garbage and therefore performed poorly in Quake, but used in the appropriate application (eg. business desktops) it was excellent. I'd put the Pentium Pro above it on the list.
[13:58:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:06] <exec> 08└─The first generation of Ryzen Zen was really terrible. When running Linux they crashed more or less daily, making them totally worthless. This was fixed in Zen+ and newer.
[13:58:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:08] <exec> 08└─I'd rate Intel's 386SX and 486SX as pretty bad. They were lobotimized versions of the 386DX and 486DX, for purposes of filling a perceived low end market niche. With the 486DX, Intel finally got rid of another of their marketing ploys, the splitting out of the floating point math, in order to sell t...
[13:58:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03agr [7134] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:10] <exec> 08└─The CPU used a plugboard for some of its instructions.
[13:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dancing Peacock Spiders Turned an Arachnophobe Into an Arachnologist - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:58:47] <exec> 08└─For a hilarious (though not suitable for work or children due to language) introduction to the dancing peacock spider, see this video: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] He (zefrank) has a whole bunch of other animal videos on his YouTube channel. Very entertaining and fairly...
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[14:01:38] <exec> 08└─And thank you sincerely for clarifying. You squarely fall in the "can't tell theory from practice" camp (possibly Asperger related) with some Venn diagram overlap into the other categories I'd mentioned. Possibly also with some socially-sanctioned "greed is good" sociopathy involved.
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[14:57:55] <exec> 08└─I agree with the premise: write your documentation in Doxygen style function level comments - make it clear at least to future you, and hopefully to anyone else coming into the project. In practice, I have wandered through far too many worthless Doxygen documentation sets - empty function descriptio...
[14:58:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:09] <exec> 08└─If someone were to mention that Intel is jewish and hence unworthy for humans, that message would be voted down.
[14:58:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:11] <exec> 08└─You neonazis are lame.
[14:58:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:13] <exec> 08└─I never had any luck with the AMD K6 and other AMD CPUs of that era. Just not stable. Seemed the chips themselves were okay, but I kept running into motherboards that would run a Pentium fine, but not an AMD K5. They were supposed to work with either, but they wouldn't work long with an AMD chip bef...
[14:58:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03zion-fueled [8646] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:15] <exec> 08└─Was it? Because mine is running great. Then again I got it this year, long after linux support matured. Vega must be terrible too because I read about it's linux trouble recently.
[14:58:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:17] <exec> 08└─Ryzen Zen and/or my motherboard MSI B350 Tomahawk was buggy as all get out when I first got it. I picked up a Ryzen 7 1700 right at release date and I had all kinds of trouble with blue screens of death and other issues in general. After a few BIOS updates, everything settled down and it's been soli...
[14:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:50] <exec> 08└─Your TDS is showing again.
[14:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dancing Peacock Spiders Turned an Arachnophobe Into an Arachnologist - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:58:58] <exec> 08└─Awwwwwww
[14:59:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:59:52] <exec> 08└─Exactly. The fire department had a contracted data plan that included throttling when they hit a bandwidth limit. Morons on the internet kept saying this was a net neutrality issue. Did AT&T pay more for having packet priority over Verizon? No. That is what net neutrality is.
[15:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:50] <exec> 08└─Iowa being nothing but a giant, flat cornfield,
[15:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:51] <exec> 08└─Hey, thanks for the laughs, coward. At very least your disconnected ravings seem eloquent. Note to self: I really have to stop dogwhistling to the insane. I'm still convinced of your theory/practice resolution problems, tho. Go out and get some sun. No, really...I mean right now. And remember to tak...
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[15:57:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:59] <exec> 08└─They translate assumptions into code. Those assumptions need to get written down in comments or requirements. Then there's caching the result of a difficult troubleshooting session. My own code had comments that linked to bug report numbers that explained why something was being done in a non-obviou...
[15:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:19] <exec> 08└─I know this is against the rules, but TFA is a good quick read. :) FTFA, TMS9900 was a failure due to 16-bit address bus. IBM chose 8088 because 20-bit. That is a big deal. RAM banking could be done, but that would have caused many programmers angst and lots of errors. Yeah, forget that. Also, there...
[15:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:21] <exec> 08└─I liked that they were very low power. But the Intel P3 was pretty low power too. Besides what you mentioned, they didn't generally work in socket 370 motherboards- you had to have an MB that accepted them. But otherwise I had no problems with them.
[15:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:23] <exec> 08└─I also had some stability problems with them, but I blamed Windoze. Turned out to be MB capacitors! Changed them when they finally started oozing and the cap plague became widely known. Rock-solid after that. Interestingly, that MB ran Linux fine, which is why I blamed Windows. (dual-boot machine of...
[15:58:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:25] <exec> 08└─The error itself is pretty interesting. It's a typo in a lookup table in the microcode. So did someone have to transcribe the table by hand?
[15:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:27] <exec> 08└─Well it was 1956 in all fairness. Vacuum tubes were the current technology. The germanium semiconductor was only discovered 9 years previous.
[15:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:29] <exec> 08└─I remember when Celerons hit the 300MHz and PII was unaffordable, some small computer companies released PCs with 300MHz Pentium I. I had a few of these in my hands, they were made of a copperish laminate as heat spreader. These CPUs required a large heatsink, specific higher voltages and mainboard...
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[15:58:31] <exec> 08└─I know this is against the rules, but TFA is a good quick read. :)
[15:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:45] <exec> 08└─I accept all the other comments saying "It's not only Huawei", but I'm still going to remember this every time I hear them promise something.
[15:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:47] <exec> 08└─Everything released out of China (physical or digital) has to go through the Ministry of Truth. So any mistake/error found are oversight by the editor working there. And if there's no apology, the mistake/error, that you think you found, is intended.
[15:58:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toxin-Producing Bacteria Can Make This Newt Deadly - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:58] <exec> 08└─Basically... It means don't lick a North American newt for a high.
[15:59:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 773 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:07] <exec> 08└─All nations are equal, but some are not allowed to send up satellites? All nations have the same rights to self-defense, but some cannot have nukes? And who gets to determine which nations these are? USA is a fucking hypocrite. Until the US stops launching military satellites into space, and gives...
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[15:59:11] <exec> 08└─Get real. International law was always Caucasian powers making up rules for the rest of the world to follow. Reciprocal treaties? The USA tribe-hopped across the continent, and then island hopped across the pacific making deals with sovereign tribes and then breaking them. Jesus Freaks in the USA? W...
[15:59:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:13] <exec> 08└─Uuh unless Chinese are causasian by your definition.. They can even blow satellites up in orbit
[15:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dancing Peacock Spiders Turned an Arachnophobe Into an Arachnologist - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:23] <exec> 08└─"I was taught that every single spider in the house was going to kill me, and we should squish it and get rid of it," he says.
[15:59:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacker Used Stolen Active Directory Credentials to Ransom Hospitals - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:36] <exec> 08└─It does, but it isn't. Even among African groups day is generally considered safer than night, and, by extension bright things are safer than darker things. There's lots of other stuff going on, and it might be one of the causes of racism, but it's true at a deeper level.
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[16:00:19] <exec> 08└─Pretty much. Right now, you've go ISPs like comcast removing their broadband caps and shockingly the network seems to be holding up just fine on their end. A few websites are slower than usual, but those are on the server end, not my internet connection is. It just reveals that these caps are a scam...
[16:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:20] <exec> 08└─There is a parallel here, between farmers and the military. You use what you have, and abuse it if you have to, because the job has to be done NOW. Whatever is at hand, you adapt it to your needs, because you can't adapt your needs to whatever is at hand. And, yes, survival is at stake, in both case...
[16:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 1522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:21] <exec> 08└─The people buying these tractors need to negotiate all of these terms before buying or else find a competitor. Small businesses that purchase machinery can in fact negotiate terms and they have negotiating power. Big companies don't want to lose revenue even from small customers and they will work w...
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[16:58:01] <exec> 08└─Primarily, the why something is done the way it's done, or at all. Or why it is a bad idea to do something that "naturally should be done", in that particular place (with that something commented out under it). A workaround for something rare, with nothing telling that it IS a workaround nor what it...
[16:58:03] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 637 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:03] <exec> 08└─Another important thing to remember: That your code is well commented does not mean that it is well documented. This is a trap especially easily to fall into when using tools to generate documentation to comments. People think, since the tool generates documentation for them, all they have to do now...
[16:58:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:05] <exec> 08└─Err … noted right after clicking "submit": generate documentation to comments
[16:58:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:07] <exec> 08└─I agree - I'm not a big fan of documentation made with javadoc/doxygen as they tend to provide details but no overview. I prefer an overview, a few examples and then only the surprises documented, rather than a plethora of user_name - Name of the user
[16:58:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:10] <exec> 08└─I think you hit a nerve. You got ranked a 5 in just 15 minutes.
[16:58:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 1278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:12] <exec> 08└─I generally agree with the submitter. Writing comments for my future self is usually the best approach. Things I generally try to comment are: 1. Bits of code that are to solve weird issues and aren't obvious. A recent example was //this is called twice in a row because the first time it is called i...
[16:58:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:14] <exec> 08└─I like to hide my kludges, so no one ever figures out that my masterpiece is just a kludge.
[16:58:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:16] <exec> 08└─If you have code that's more complicated than a typical "shove data from one place to another" kind of thing, a potentially very very useful thing to do is to announce what algorithm you're implementing, where you got it, why you chose it, and why you aren't using a library version of it. That way,...
[16:58:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 2370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:18] <exec> 08└─There are two kinds of good documentation. One kind is written for the user of the software (or even routine) and the other is written for the implementer of the software. It's extremely annoying when, in order to document internal use I need to change variables that should be private to protected.....
[16:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 1885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:20] <exec> 08└─<no-sarcasm> Programmers in their young days think the audience for their code is the compiler. If it compiles, great! Job done. The primary audience is actually someone else ten years later who will be reading your code. The compiler is just part of the machinery that makes the code run. Write your...
[16:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:23] <exec> 08└─When documenting something that is the "obvious" but wrong way of doing something, one remedy is to write the actual wrong code as commented code, with an explanation of why it is wrong. But only when the wrong thing is short, a couple lines.
[16:58:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:25] <exec> 08└─It's also a matter of getting into the habit rather than “uhm, yes, everything is more exciting than that”. In fact a lot of coding is like trying to make a string go in a certain direction by pushing it, compared to which writing text to explain what's going on is downright easy. If you just ge...
[16:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:27] <exec> 08└─an annoying number of comments I come across(that were most likely added by a younger me) are in the format // this code was copied from stackexchange.com/REFERENCE, no idea how it works, but it does fix BUG 0xx
[16:58:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:29] <exec> 08└─I like documentation generated by Javadoc/etc type tools. As long as it is informative and a pleasure to read. Write documentation that way. If you're just pointing out boring mundane details trivially discerned from the code, then you're doing it wrong. You should explain not only what it does. Why...
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[16:58:31] <exec> 08└─IIRC, the gzip, libjpeg, and libpng libraries are like that. Way back in the early 90s, those libs inspired me to write cross-platform C too. They run on just about anything. People forgot that C was designed to be portable, and bought Java's marketing hype. We once interviews a guy who thought the...
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[16:58:33] <exec> 08└─try to label all the potential mines so that the next guy won't step on them.
[16:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickM [2867] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:35] <exec> 08└─In javadoc you are supposed to document a package in package-info.java and a module in module-info.java . With doxygen there is a complex system of grouping to acheive the same result. However, in practice you are right, as it is almost never done. I suppose the justifications behind this omission i...
[16:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:58:38] <exec> 08└─I think the most depressing comment I ever read was in a large C++ project being used for something relatively important. The code itself was a dog's breakfast. I shall paraphrase the comment: "This doesn't work but multi-threaded coding is hard and it's not as bad as it used to be before I fixed it...
[16:59:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:04] <exec> 08└─They all taught us some lessons, and some of them drove compiler development. The Itanium had some interesting features: instructions were bundled into 3 and predicated (bits to select execution or cancellation)128 registersregister windows, explicitly controlledbranch registers which could be loade...
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[16:59:06] <exec> 08└─I was wearing protection!
[16:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:08] <exec> 08└─My first '386 board came with a 287. It surprised me at the time- I thought it had to be a 387 to go with a 386, but evidently 287 is bus compatible. Q: was the 386SX pretty much bus compatible with 286 glue logic? IE, could you pretty much drop a 386SX into a 286 MB design?
[16:59:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:10] <exec> 08└─by removing it from the 486DX and calling that a 486SX. You could add that back in by buying an 80387.
[16:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:12] <exec> 08└─I had a k6-2 and it was rock stable It could not overclock it as the pentium and maybe it is why several people had problems trying to push it too hard, specially with weaker MB whatever CPU, most problems at that time were bad power supply/MB (ie: stable power problems) and bad windows drivers (ver...
[16:59:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:14] <exec> 08└─Was that when they first used the epitaxial process? ;-)
[16:59:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:17] <exec> 08└─Intel had the 8086/8088 pc market, but the market wanted more memory space. So they built a new 80286 cpu with an mmu to provide more memory but unfortunately in a manner incompatible with existing PC s/w. The 386 had a whole different, but compatible mmu.
[16:59:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:19] <exec> 08└─Indeed. Why do you have a problem with that?
[16:59:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:21] <exec> 08└─This. When I worked at Trent University (late 80's) our electronics course lab dealt with hands-on computer interfacing and architecture via the Timex Sinclair. In a bench row of set-ups if one person caused even a minor electrical spike/drop-out by even something as innocuous as turning their power...
[16:59:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:23] <exec> 08└─I had two K6-2s and a K6-III and they were all rock solid. I did have trouble with one but that was bad RAM, not the CPU.
[16:59:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:27] <exec> 08└─In fact of their entire list I'd say only the 9900 was a really bad CPU, mostly because it was such a weird architecture and a royal pain to program. All of the rest were just "didn't really live up to expectations". If you want PITA CPUs, what about the i860, which was a giant minefield of exceptio...
[16:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:29] <exec> 08└─The concept of the Itanium was great; still is. I never used one, so I don't know about the quality of the hardware implementation. The Itanium's downfall is the piss-poor state of software engineering. They couldn't write a compiler that demonstrated the Itanium working faster than a contemporary x...
[16:59:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:32] <exec> 08└─Odd list, I wonder how they define "worst". The worst one would be all the once that got binned at the drawing board or didn't survive the internal testing phase. Most of them doesn't seem to have been bad CPU:s at the time of release, but more of bad in hindsight or perhaps more correct would be th...
[16:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:59:34] <exec> 08└─Please elaborate. The 8086/8088/80186/80188 had 16-bit segment:offset addressing and "all" programs assumed that the segments were overlapping with 16 bytes offset. There were no way out of that without either breaking compatibility, or virtualizing memory. The 80286 introduced protected mode where...
[17:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toxin-Producing Bacteria Can Make This Newt Deadly - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:00] <exec> 08└─OK sticky note: stop eating newts.
[17:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:19] <exec> 08└─And even if it did... I don't care. Thanks for saving my life.
[17:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:21] <exec> 08└─A large part of the country has been nuts for quite some time but until Trump it didn't seem to matter.
[17:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:23] <exec> 08└─Bbut... then how can they innovate with bundles?
[17:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Blasted for “Shameful” Ruling Against Cities and Fire Department - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:25] <exec> 08└─I realize you're being Funny but these shitbags became what they are by precisely the route you outline.
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[17:57:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06We May Have Seen Two Asteroids Annihilate Each Other in Another Solar System - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:57:59] <exec> 08└─You can experience it yourself here [freeasteroids.org].
[17:58:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06We May Have Seen Two Asteroids Annihilate Each Other in Another Solar System - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:00] <exec> 08└─Are you nuts? Flash?
[17:58:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickM [2867] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:29] <exec> 08└─I frequently look at the test of a library to get my usage examples and if the library doesn't minimaly test it's major use cases it is not meant to be used. Evidently this only applies to opensource software.
[17:58:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:30] <exec> 08└─The problem is that those tools create reference documentation. That is a necessary part of documentation, but it is not all documentation you need. Reference documentation is there for people who are already familiar with your code or interface, but need to look up the details. But it is not suffic...
[17:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:32] <exec> 08└─Well, that comment still gave you important information: Don't trust this code.
[17:58:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:34] <exec> 08└─There, I've started us off. You're welcome.
[17:58:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:37] <exec> 08└─Comments are primarily about why you're doing something and what it's supposed to do. The code itself should be written to be as clear as possible about what it's doing. If you're having to comment what the code is doing, it's a good idea to reconsider whether the way it's being done is really a goo...
[17:58:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:39] <exec> 08└─Emacs is an interesting, if antiquated, operating system. To be complete all it needs is a decent editor.
[17:58:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:41] <exec> 08└─I could tell just by looking at the code. I read code first and comments last.
[17:58:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NickM [2867] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:43] <exec> 08└─generate documentation to comments
[17:58:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:45] <exec> 08└─Hopefully, we also long ago learned to use meaningful variable and function names.
[17:58:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:48] <exec> 08└─"The dislike for documenting ones code seems universal among programmers of any field or language" This is true until you get around to needing to maintain something you wrote 5 years ago, and haven't touched since. Coding style evolves over time. There is some old stuff I wrote that I am appalled a...
[17:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:58:50] <exec> 08└─Which reminds me: also document what your function did in the past if that changed.
[17:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:30] <exec> 08└─I also had a K6-2 and had no issues whatsoever. I did spring for a decent motherboard since I needed extra ports for Firewire and such.
[17:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:32] <exec> 08└─I've used Itaniums at my work. They performed fine for our workloads. Yes, modern x86 CPUs use a lot of die space untangling the mess of register re-use and OoO execution. The "belt" architecture from Mill Computing tries to avoid that - it is an interesting architecture. I hope they succeed so we h...
[17:59:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Acabatag [2885] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:34] <exec> 08└─There were proprietary unix boxes that made proper use of the 80286 But the PC clone market barreled forward just using it as a bigger and faster 8088. I am disappointed in the dominance of x86 processors in the list in the article. What a boring subset of cpus. No mention of things like the Intersi...
[17:59:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:36] <exec> 08└─> So they built a new 80286 cpu with an mmu to provide more memory but unfortunately in a manner incompatible with existing PC s/w. I'm not following you. By "existing PC s/w" you mean stuff that ran in "real mode", pretty much on DOS, right? Because there was no MMU in the 86/88, therefor there was...
[17:59:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03agr [7134] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:38] <exec> 08└─There were othe vacuum tube machines of the same era, such as the IBM 650, that had a decent design.
[17:59:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:59:54] <exec> 08└─The company has also updated its original promo video for the contest to remove the claim that the images were taken with Huawei phones.
[18:00:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:00:20] <exec> 08└─The Revolutionary Guard's spokesman, Elon el-Muski, claims to have plans to launch another thousand rockets by year end, along with a fleet of self-driving camels. Much is explained by the 4/20 launch date.
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[18:57:53] <exec> 08└─Nothing of value was lost. Good riddance.
[18:58:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:32] <exec> 08└─In the late '90s I had a CEO who got sold on the Java hype, asked why we weren't coding our (massive) C++ app in Java instead? Well, let's see... when we started this project C++ compilers didn't work so we used C. When Windows 95 rolled around we migrated to C++ to access the standard GUI APIs (and...
[18:58:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:34] <exec> 08└─I do those too... the worst is when the reference is to a site that has since disappeared.
[18:58:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:36] <exec> 08└─The ability to provide overview documentation is clearly and easily implemented in Doxygen. The problem is that nobody ever uses it. I've also worked with a lot of flipside documentation, an architectural overview of the plans that the developers had when they started out. Somehow those never seem t...
[18:58:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:38] <exec> 08└─Anything that addresses a bug-fix is noteworthy. Future me has a tendency to see something that past me did to fix a bug, wonder what idiot would do such a thing, revert it to what far-past me originally wrote, then (hopefully) encounter the bug that the idiotic patch fixed.
[18:58:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:40] <exec> 08└─My dearest wish is to complete a project with only one API. Never happens, but the closer I get to that ideal the easier it is to port the project around to future applications, other developers, etc.
[18:58:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:42] <exec> 08└─As the years roll on, I use private and protected less and less. I'm not writing APIs for other boneheaded programmers to use, I'm writing code that will be shared among a small team of professionals. When I say: "use the getters and setters, unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing" I mean that,...
[18:58:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03YeaWhatevs [5623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:45] <exec> 08└─Given an option, I would rather know what you are trying to accomplish than what you did. If I want to know what you did, I can read the code, but if you tell my what you are trying to do, I can fix its bugs as well.
[18:58:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 1940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:47] <exec> 08└─It's easy to sing the praise of documentation, unit tests, code reviews, etc. How much harder is it to quantify their cost, both in terms of raw time/money, and especially in terms of opportunity cost? Would you rather your fellow developers spent their time adding doxygen description for every in/o...
[18:58:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:49] <exec> 08└─There's no point to private/protected, except as a hack to enable faux-encapsulation using the c struct model. No matter, the compiler and the cache see all! If you want real encapsulation, use a pimpl. If you want perfect, future proofed encapsulation, use a function defined in another translation...
[18:58:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:51] <exec> 08└─Even something as simple as a loop index needs to have a meaningful name. People justify using "x" and "y" by saying that the whole loop only performs 1 or 2 statements... why even bother to put the effort into something so simple? The real answer is that today it is only one or two statements, will...
[18:58:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:53] <exec> 08└─Even something as simple as a loop index needs to have a meaningful name.
[18:59:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:38] <exec> 08└─6x86 was a socket 5/7 processor, not 370. The only real problem with it was that even after multiple die shrinks the clock speed didn't increase much. They managed to get from the original 150MHz up to 300MHz and that was it. AMD and Intel hit 600MHz and beyond and left Cyrix in the dust. The Joshua...
[18:59:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:40] <exec> 08└─I can't remember the manufacturer, but it was an early 8-bit MCU. I was using the NS COP400, which was new at the time, (about 1979) but other people in the lab had to use this device. Horror features included: Executing the code with the memory addresses in Grey-code order to avoid ripple carry. (t...
[18:59:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:59:42] <exec> 08└─This is one of those lists written down to invite disagreement and gather clicks without offering any value.
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[19:00:33] <exec> 08└─Them buggers scare me shitless but I like them since they munch on other nasty critters.
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[19:02:13] <exec> 08└─I am (rather distantly) acquainted with an actual lockheed-martin rocket scientist. Everything else about Spacex was between "yeah, o.k." to "oh, well done there!". But he just couldn't believe their controls engineering. When he saw the video of the first grasshopper, he was very impressed with the...
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[19:57:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:57:59] <exec> 08└─This has been all the rage for 10+ years now. Take old obsolete hardware (computer, console etc) and get some modern hardware kit (ssd, sdcards, usbsticks etc) to load stuff instead of having to use cd, tape, floppies or cartridges. It really cuts down on loading times and you can usually store ever...
[19:58:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:01] <exec> 08└─Sorry we can't all be as smart and miserable as you.
[19:58:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06We May Have Seen Two Asteroids Annihilate Each Other in Another Solar System - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:11] <exec> 08└─https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/science/fomalhaut-exoplanet-asteroid.html [nytimes.com]
[19:58:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Beryllium Sphere (r) (5062) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 470 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:58:21] <exec> 08└─They translate assumptions into code. Those assumptions need to get written down in comments or requirements. Then there's caching the result of a difficult troubleshooting session. My own code had comments that linked to bug report numbers that explained why something was being done in a non-obviou...
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[19:59:02] <exec> 08└─Yup, if you code well, the "what is this doing" becomes obvious. The why is this being done (particularly, as you said, in this way or NOT in that way) is the important thing. Also of key importance (particularly at the interface level) is EXACTLY what is supposed to be getting accomplished, so that...
[19:59:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:03] <exec> 08└─I agree, the comment was probably better than the code.
[19:59:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:05] <exec> 08└─Most of my comments these days are actually "why aren't we doing it this way?" Because there's some obscure issue that it causes elsewhere in the code, so that I don't come back a year later and say "hey, we could do this a lot more simply by just doing X", and then spend the next week figuring out...
[19:59:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:08] <exec> 08└─Even something as simple as a loop index needs to have a meaningful name. People justify using "x" and "y" by saying that the whole loop only performs 1 or 2 statements... why even bother to put the effort into something so simple? The real answer is that today it is only one or two statements, will...
[19:59:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 972 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:44] <exec> 08└─In fact of their entire list I'd say only the 9900 was a really bad CPU, mostly because it was such a weird architecture and a royal pain to program. All of the rest were just "didn't really live up to expectations". If you want PITA CPUs, what about the i860, which was a giant minefield of exceptio...
[19:59:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 2657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:56] <exec> 08└─An appendix in an old computer architecture textbook I studied rips the x86 for being a horrible architecture. The x86 part is a fairly sane and common load and execute, execute and store design. Still too many instructions though. Not enough registers, and too much overly specific register function...
[19:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:59:58] <exec> 08└─Not sure why some didn't like it.
[19:59:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:00] <exec> 08└─The reason for the BCD instructions in the 8086/8088 (as well as some other special instructions like LAHF/SAHF) is the goal of a straightforward mechanical translation of 8080 code into 8086 code. Therefore it was essential that all 8080 functionality was either directly available on the 8086 (such...
[20:00:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:02] <exec> 08└─>the Itanuim ABI? >Itanuim I guess that such an ABI has problems with maintaining endianness :D
[20:00:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03isj [5249] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:04] <exec> 08└─Close enough. BTW: the Itanium was bi-endian. big-endian when running HP-UX and little-endian when running Linux.
[20:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:06] <exec> 08└─This is one of those lists written down to invite disagreement and gather clicks without offering any value.
[20:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:08] <exec> 08└─I don't agree with your assessment, lemme check *clicky* *clicky*
[20:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:11] <exec> 08└─Did you read recently Gilead Sciences (your home company and pride) has had its coronavirus drug failed in the first trial?
[20:00:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 617 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:21] <exec> 08└─Because on the IRC channel, as soon as that story was submitted to the story queue, I announced in a clear voice that they were just copying the trick Nokia pulled nearly a decade ago with their PureView 920 advert: https://www.theverge.com Curious...
[20:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Iran's Revolutionary Guard Says it Launched Satellite Amid US Tensions - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:52] <exec> 08└─All nations are equal, but some are not allowed to send up satellites?
[20:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'Right to Repair' Taken Up by the ACCC in Farmers' Fight to Fix Their Own Tractors - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:06] <exec> 08└─Hey, thanks for the laughs, coward
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[20:57:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:57:57] <exec> 08└─I have 3 of them in my garage, all of them with failed optical drives. It's f'd up that it doesn't use an off the shelf CD/DVD drive on it.
[20:58:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06We May Have Seen Two Asteroids Annihilate Each Other in Another Solar System - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:08] <exec> 08└─First thing I saw too. Flash? Woah. No thanks.
[20:59:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:02] <exec> 08└─// When reading this code, it is important to remember this: http://nonexistantsite.example [nonexistantsite.example]
[20:59:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 504 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:11] <exec> 08└─I'll vote for the Intel Pentium anyway - for exactly the reason mentioned in the summary - the FDIV bug [wikipedia.org] was handed in a monumentally terrible way. It was the Boeing 737 MAX of its day. Remember this is a company stuffed to the gills with some of smartest engineers that could be found...
[20:59:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1357 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:12] <exec> 08└─They mention the TMS9900 as a "bad CPU" without mentioning the TI-99/4a which probably had one of the worst architectures? Imagine running your video card over a parallel port - and that also doubles as your machines main memory. Your BIOS/OS is all written in a slow interpreted language. And all yo...
[20:59:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1628 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:17] <exec> 08└─I'd rate Intel's 386SX and 486SX as pretty bad. They were lobotimized versions of the 386DX and 486DX, for purposes of filling a perceived low end market niche. With the 486DX, Intel finally got rid of another of their marketing ploys, the splitting out of the floating point math, in order to sell t...
[20:59:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 999 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:25] <exec> 08└─I know this is against the rules, but TFA is a good quick read. :) FTFA, TMS9900 was a failure due to 16-bit address bus. IBM chose 8088 because 20-bit. That is a big deal. RAM banking could be done, but that would have caused many programmers angst and lots of errors. Yeah, forget that. Also, there...
[20:59:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 453 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:28] <exec> 08└─I also had some stability problems with them, but I blamed Windoze. Turned out to be MB capacitors! Changed them when they finally started oozing and the cap plague became widely known. Rock-solid after that. Interestingly, that MB ran Linux fine, which is why I blamed Windows. (dual-boot machine of...
[20:59:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isj [5249] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 807 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:34] <exec> 08└─They all taught us some lessons, and some of them drove compiler development. The Itanium had some interesting features: instructions were bundled into 3 and predicated (bits to select execution or cancellation)128 registersregister windows, explicitly controlledbranch registers which could be loade...
[20:59:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 508 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:43] <exec> 08└─This. When I worked at Trent University (late 80's) our electronics course lab dealt with hands-on computer interfacing and architecture via the Timex Sinclair. In a bench row of set-ups if one person caused even a minor electrical spike/drop-out by even something as innocuous as turning their power...
[20:59:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 885 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:47] <exec> 08└─The concept of the Itanium was great; still is. I never used one, so I don't know about the quality of the hardware implementation. The Itanium's downfall is the piss-poor state of software engineering. They couldn't write a compiler that demonstrated the Itanium working faster than a contemporary x...
[21:00:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:05] <exec> 08└─Part of that was Intel not wanting to share enough information for anyone but Intel to make a decent compiler. I say only part because Intel wasn't able to make their compiler produce fast code for Itanic either. Adding insult to injury, Itanic was eye-wateringly expensive (about $10,000 each IIRC)...
[21:00:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:07] <exec> 08└─I am Pentium of Borg, you will be approximated...
[21:00:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:09] <exec> 08└─>Please elaborate. At the time, most code needing more than 64k did arithmetic assuming the segment regs were 16x the offset regs. That gave 1M - what IBM took leaving 640k. Intel decided that this was evil and that they 'owned' the architectural definition of the segment registers. They made the 28...
[21:00:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:11] <exec> 08└─Microcontrollers, as a class. I worked with one where a silicon defect stopped writes to particular code pages - but not in every unit. "The bug can't be in the silicon" I thought, over and over, as I tried to work it out. And we were getting rolls straight from digikey, and the lithography etc all...
[21:00:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:13] <exec> 08└─How many bits differed? 1 bit? -> quite likely a literal cosmic ray, at some stage
[21:00:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:30] <exec> 08└─And why do you think this is the first time Huawei has done this? Cause it isn't.
[21:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:32] <exec> 08└─For any smartphone purchase, you should look at the reviews and not the ads/marketing. I've seen AnandTech do pretty good camera testing: https://www.anandtech.com [anandtech.com] As for Huawei, it could be banned in your country...
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[21:58:04] <exec> 08└─Seriously? Gaikwad? This is a joke article, right? Is he from Gay Bay?
[21:58:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:58:06] <exec> 08└─grocery delivery services
[21:58:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:58:16] <exec> 08└─If they're the fat PS2s you can install a network adapater and HDD then load roms onto there as well. Seen it done before. Or, if you have a decent PC, PCSX2 is a decent PS2 emulator.
[21:59:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:23] <exec> 08└─Some 15 years ago I worked for a bunch of jokers who insisted on Java as the silver bullet to end all IT woes. And then tasked me to write Perl to verify that their code was producing correct results. On the subject of self-documenting code, Python has '''inline docstrings input: your time and...
[21:59:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:24] <exec> 08└─Have you considered writing an abstraction layer? All your mainline code goes through it and it provides a consistant API to your code. Let it handle the vagaries of invoking the underlying APIs? Potentially time-consuming to write, though one could generate much of it with automation that abstracte...
[21:59:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:26] <exec> 08└─You're /so/ behind the times. https://www.emacswiki.org
[21:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:28] <exec> 08└─Since 2006, I have called my abstraction layer "Qt" - it's pretty good, but invariably there's one (or more) other libraries that need to be pulled in. Porting Qt around is relatively easy, the other libraries tend to be a PITA. Projects tend to be all over the map: a 3D radiotherapy treatment plann...
[21:59:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:59:31] <exec> 08└─If the monkey with a keyboard can't figure what you're trying to do, they need to stay the fuck away from your code. And having had to figure it out will means they will have a much more thorough understanding of the code than they could ever get from a comment. So, no, you should never comment the...
[22:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:33] <exec> 08└─Usage patterns, man. With bad caps, doing work under load and under low load can give different outcomes. So maybe peripherals were brought up in a different order, or maybe bootup stressed the bridges differently, or maybe some init or usage pattern was actually identical to both but had a stochast...
[22:00:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:35] <exec> 08└─Are... you serious? I have a similar history and... well, honestly now I'm going to take inventory and make sure I never sound like that. Anyway, whatever you got out of it there's no escaping the fact that you published a low-effort clickbait article. I mean tell me you don't think this wasn't a "l...
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[22:57:57] <exec> 08└─Looks like poetic justice to me. Back in high school the jocks cut lines, billied and were generally good at keeping nerds away from x (where x is something desirable).
[22:57:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:57:58] <exec> 08└─Odd. You see the world as consisting of jocks and nerds? That's all? And, this is your opportunity to get even with the jocks? I'm not sure whether I should recommend professional help, or that you just get out more. You've missed out on somewhere between 75% and 85% of the real world.
[22:58:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:00] <exec> 08└─What does the real world have to do with Pelosi's ice cream parlor? [youtube.com]
[22:58:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:03] <exec> 08└─> ...or that you just get out more. Parent here, note that the whole point of this is that *no one* is getting out more these days. I'm going out ~once a week for grocery shopping and not much else. I didn't write these bots, some developers (nerds) did. Whether or not they thought about it, they ar...
[22:58:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:13] <exec> 08└─The CD/DVD drive it has is necessary for the DRM to work. If you bypass the DRM, you can use whatever drive you want.
[22:58:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06An SSD Can Resurrect Your Old Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Consoles - 1960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:15] <exec> 08└─I would die to get my hands on some old NEO-GEO hardware precisely to run some of those old games. Why? Controller latency. We have a big ass fucking computer in the damn way. Lots of other software running at the same time, USB controllers, and performance issues. The lag may not be a lot, but its...
[22:58:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:58:48] <exec> 08└─an annoying number of comments I come across(that were most likely added by a younger me) are in the format // this code was copied from stackexchange.com/REFERENCE, no idea how it works, but it does fix BUG 0xx
[22:59:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:27] <exec> 08└─Both doxygen and javadoc have been standard for a looong time. Pretty much everyone I worked with new about doxygen (since we were c and didn't use Microsoft tools), and javadoc demonstrates its usefulness in the generated documentation for the idk, so the idk is the best advertisement for javadoc....
[22:59:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:28] <exec> 08└─My most memorable comments are commented code, followed by a few lines of rant, and a link to some public issue tracker. Which is usually followed by some very ugly ass-code with conditions or operations that shouldn't be there. Luckily, my boss still thinks that's funny.
[22:59:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:30] <exec> 08└─Take the extra step of adding the page you reference to the Internet Archive or archive.is (or both), then reference *that* page. Has a better chance of staying alive.
[22:59:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:59:32] <exec> 08└─The only comments I find worthwhile are either the ones along the lines of "done this way because $typical_way is 2^64 times less efficient for this use case" or ones that make me laugh. My personal favorite example of the latter in the original slashcode went something like this: foreach(keys(%$use...
[23:00:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:36] <exec> 08└─Not that terrible, definitely not monumentally, they brought in arguably the best x86 programmer in the world to fix the problem, which he swiftly did. OK, they tried to pretend it didn't exist until Nicely made it public, but when they realised that some action was necessary (who cares about spread...
[23:00:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 1659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:38] <exec> 08└─Itanium was not a bad CPU. Itanium's problem was Intel. Intel, like a large portion of the computer industry, had a massive desire to kill the x86 instruction set in as gruesome, public, and fast of a manner as possible. They already tried once before with a RISC platform, as a matter of fact. Their...
[23:00:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:40] <exec> 08└─Didn't that also suffer from the F00F bug? That can halt the entire computer with a single unprivileged instruction requiring a hard reboot. Better hope you patched your multi-user systems, those with compilers, or those running untrusted code.
[23:00:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Worst CPUs Ever Made - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:42] <exec> 08└─One solution to backwards compatibility while replacing with a nee architecture is to include a VM with the OS. The VM runs the old code. Apple did this to successfully transition CPU architecture 3 times. They are now going to transition CPU again...
[23:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Caught Passing Off DSLR Photos as Being Taken With Smartphones - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, Huawei have form for this. I would not be at all surprised if other phone makers do the same thing though.
[23:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dancing Peacock Spiders Turned an Arachnophobe Into an Arachnologist - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:38] <exec> 08└─Never heard of a Dancing Peacock Spider, but it sure looks cool.
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[23:58:00] <exec> 08└─From "Broadcast Yourself" to "Watch Mainstream TV" in just 15 years? [youtube.com]
[23:58:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:14] <exec> 08└─What exactly is a "fair" advantage?
[23:58:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:15] <exec> 08└─You rip on Gaikwad, but give a pass to Pooja Ahuja?
[23:58:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:17] <exec> 08└─That's easy: Advantages for me are fair, advantages for you are so unfair. Kids express this opinion regularly, adults are smarter so they don't express it but just think it.
[23:58:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People are Making Bots to Snatch Whole Foods Delivery Order Time Slots - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:58:19] <exec> 08└─Everyone needs a little pooja, don't they?
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[23:58:43] <exec> 08└─"That's no planet..."
[23:59:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06"Good Code Documents Itself" and Other Hilarious Jokes You Shouldn’t Tell Yourself - 340 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:59:47] <exec> 08└─The only comments I find worthwhile are either the ones along the lines of "done this way because $typical_way is 2^64 times less efficient for this use case" or ones that make me laugh. My personal favorite example of the latter in the original slashcode went something like this: foreach(keys(%$use...