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[00:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:54] <exec> 08└─Software may be hard, but hardware is harder. (Quoting the owner/designer of a small bicycle manufacturing company.) Amirite that Andy Rubin, who was so good at software, failed to realize the complexities of making hardware?
[00:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:55] <exec> 08└─So are we about done with smartphones? I remember back before the iPhone, people only grudgingly put up with cellphones with built in computers/PDAs, they were a business thing. Then Apple came along and suddenly they became a ladies fashion accessory. There is no place to go now. They are done.
[00:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:57] <exec> 08└─Nope, they are our constant brain-washing companions. Something to stare into so we can ignore the fscked up world around us. I refuse to have one.
[00:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:59] <exec> 08└─Internet bad.
[00:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:01] <exec> 08└─There is plenty more to do with smartphones -- 3D touch interfaces in air for example. If you had bothered to read a few articles, you'd see that Andy Rubin got himself into some #metoo trouble while at Google and was forced out as a result -- and he got a 90M golden parachute on his way out. He was...
[00:24:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:09] <exec> 08└─So, how are those rapid, mandatory, updates working out for you kids?
[00:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:20] <exec> 08└─This is just begging to be put into an infographic on a t-shirt....
[00:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:23] <exec> 08└─And people would still use windoze.
[00:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:25] <exec> 08└─Hey! I'm free to spend my money and support whomever I'd like! From someone to preach to me that it's a "real shame" that I paid for Windows Pro just makes me feel like someone is telling me what to do, what is right and what is wrong. I moved away from that stuff when I left my parent's home oh so...
[00:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 Pro Can't Handle AMD's 64-Core Threadripper 3990X... Try Intel's Clear Linux Instead - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:09] <exec> 08└─I'm just sipping my mango rosewater lemon kombucha vanilla chai grande latte here at St@rb___s while waiting for the docker instance on my Macbook to finish computing. It would really help with the street cred if I could plug in a Linux machine to get "real work done". Plus, if were a USB slave I'd...
[00:29:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:53] <exec> 08└─Keeping into account the EV nature of Tesla and knowing EV are going to be the mainstream, some/many of those bugs are unavoidable or moot (e.g. no transmission/gear box necessary, but the acceleration cannot be mechanical anymore, you will need to deal with PWM for acceleration control and PID regu...
[00:29:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:55] <exec> 08└─No need to crash the vehicle! Zap the occupants! Fry the pitiful humans!
[00:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:21] <exec> 08└─Redundant but TRUE!
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[01:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:02] <exec> 08└─I'm typing this comment on a phone so hahahaha fuck you.
[01:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:03] <exec> 08└─Entering a crowded market is difficult when you're basically just rebadging the same Qualcomm Snapdragon based platform that your competitors are using. They tried something radically different with GEM. It seems to have garnered little interest.
[01:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:05] <exec> 08└─Sadist.
[01:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:07] <exec> 08└─I don't think Andy Rubin put much of his own money into Essential. He managed to raise $350 million in "outside funding" which would be the venture capital crowd. Pissing the VC's money up against a wall is a good thing, because Essential will have used a lot of that money to pay people, meaning th...
[01:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:27] <exec> 08└─"We won't tell you which files are executable, but if you click one, it's YOUR fault", OH wait, they already did that one.
[01:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:29] <exec> 08└─If the user consented to using that interface, I don't think its "rape", technically.
[01:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:24:31] <exec> 08└─people never read the terms of interface rape
[01:25:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Windows 10 Pro Can't Handle AMD's 64-Core Threadripper 3990X... Try Intel's Clear Linux Instead - 25 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:03] <exec> 08└─a console OS like windows
[01:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Postmates Dealt Blow as California Judge Denies AB 5 Injunction - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:48] <exec> 08└─You have asked the wrong question in that case, and are playing directly into the hands of your awful health insurance industry when you ask that question.
[01:26:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:36] <exec> 08└─[citation needed] *grin*
[01:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:38] <exec> 08└─Sure sure, you do realize that your reply is barely even tangential to the point right? Someone fact checking someone else is not censorship. I guess Facebook using such fact checkers to remove your posts would be censorship, but from the typical conservative/libertarian standpoint I do believe "pri...
[01:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:40] <exec> 08└─Because Hillary gots electrolemails. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[01:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:46] <exec> 08└─The slightly more nuanced concept of "afterlife" is that the memory / legacy left behind among the living is the "spirit" of the deceased.
[01:28:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:47] <exec> 08└─Even worse than that, imagine something out of "Surface Detail." Imagine "keep paying us, or you really will not like what happens to your precious daughter next time you log in," then on next login, the entire virtual landscape is red-hot metal and your virtual "daughter" is covered in full-thickne...
[01:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:10] <exec> 08└─and for somebody that lives in the UK (correct if I'm wrong)
[01:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:12] <exec> 08└─Many new cars don't have switches that disconnect anything. "Turning the ignition off" sends a signal to the computer to tell it to stop. Some people worry about things like : https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[01:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:14] <exec> 08└─But I still want a way of making sure that cruise control is off and drive to the wheels is disabled - if I could afford an electric car I'd be willing to pay extra for a clutch somewhere between the motor and wheels.
[01:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:16] <exec> 08└─Thus, any analogy requires a validation of its applicability. A lot boils down to the contract of sale which the original owner has with Tesla.
[01:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:18] <exec> 08└─Don't be a stooge - unless Tesla can show an agreement between the current owner and Tesla, possession is 100% of the law. Tesla pulled a fast one. The owner is too chicken shit to go after them., same as 99.99% of the people whose computers got screwed up after an unauthorized Windows upgrade. Took...
[01:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:20] <exec> 08└─The law is clear - you cannot repossess anything from a 3rd party without a court judgment. And you can't seize even stolen goods unless you're a cop or bailiff. I don't see why people don't get this? Even a copyright violation doesn't give you the right to remotely disable software or barge into a...
[01:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:22] <exec> 08└─Your contract with someone else does not bind me.
[01:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:24] <exec> 08└─Well, the rego in Australia does transfer - the "road tax" for the car was paid already.
[01:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:26] <exec> 08└─Oh come off it. Even grease monkeys at the local garage could handle pre-electronic automotive electrical systems. The ignition systems were dead easy - after a while you could adjust points by eye and timing by ear. Everything else was pretty straight forward 12v wiring, including replacement of de...
[01:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:28] <exec> 08└─The Magnusson-Moss Act did away with the "only we can legally serviceor repair your vehicle and it can't use aftermarket parts" shenanigans. Seems to me that would also apply to jail breaking your Tesla.
[01:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:30] <exec> 08└─That would be fine if you actually owned the Brooklyn bridge. Can you drop it over that river in my backyard over there? Thanks. The contract you have with Brooklyn saying their garbage trucks can drive across it to get to Brooklyn is your problem.
[01:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:32] <exec> 08└─If the car needs to talk to a mothership to navigate, even if it's just for map updates, it's not autonomous by definition.
[01:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:34] <exec> 08└─Also, the Magnusson-Moss act gives the current owner the right to repair the vehicle without going through the dealer, So jail breaking is perfectly legal, same as any other aftermarket stuff from any supplier. They can't even void the warranty unless they can prove the aftermarket part was defecti...
[01:32:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Carbon Dioxide Emissions Defying Expectations - 926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:43] <exec> 08└─Not disagreeing, but can you elaborate more on the "very lucrative scam going"? As for the progressive base falling for them, it's not like they have much of a choice. We have a two-party system guaranteed by Duverger's Law, so naturally progressives (just like any voting group) have to pick the par...
[01:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Carbon Dioxide Emissions Defying Expectations - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure about that. I really don't like some of the things China does (concentration camps, artificial military islands, etc.), but I have to admit their political leadership seems to actually know what it's doing. The amount that country has improved economically over the past 30 years is j...
[01:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:03] <exec> 08└─I'm using Devuan as a desktop system and a home server for a few years now. Works fine. No systemd. And you don't need to install or use their default desktop. I don't even know what it is. I use lxqt. -- hendrik
[01:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:04] <exec> 08└─Medvedev. I'm not sure of the spelling either, but I googled it just now.
[01:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:06] <exec> 08└─I'm running Devuan on my 32-bit computer.
[01:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:08] <exec> 08└─Were those 3's meant to represent broken hearts? Because an unbroken heart is written '<3'.
[01:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe just finding all your settings is an NP-complete problem?
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[02:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:02] <exec> 08└─Nokia and Ericsson both provide 5G gear. The only reason why Hwawei is such a big deal is because its offerings are cheap, and when you're rolling out a prototype network, using cheap shit isn't always the best option backdoors or not -- especially when the country making it is being eaten alive fro...
[02:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:03] <exec> 08└─Do as we say, not as we do.
[02:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:05] <exec> 08└─The NSA was formed pretty much for the purpose of snooping the first transatlantic cable. So yeah, we have been systematically violating the 4th, since the inception of a telecommunications. Personally I think there is a jealousy thing going on here. The NSA ripped open a phone to splice in a chip a...
[02:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:07] <exec> 08└─You're sounding particularly stupid today. Missed your meds?
[02:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:09] <exec> 08└─The US has been doing it to everyone else for as long as it could, and Americans aren't exempt either. However, it's possible for both things to be true at the same time, and that's a hell of a lot more likely than just the US doing it.
[02:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:11] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think it's one step further. "Only we're supposed to be able to do that!"
[02:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:13] <exec> 08└─The NSA was formed pretty much for the purpose of snooping the first transatlantic cable. So yeah, we have been systematically violating the 4th, since the inception of a telecommunications.
[02:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:15] <exec> 08└─No more stupid than usual, no. Why do you ask?
[02:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:31] <exec> 08└─It seems Ars Technica needs proofreaders, or new ones: Essential was Andy Rubin's next company after his previous gig at Google, where he lead the development of Android, taking the OS from nothing to the world's most popular operating system.
[02:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:33] <exec> 08└─Worth $360 million [nytimes.com]
[02:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:35] <exec> 08└─I think that smartphones *could* be a good idea. But not as "smartphones." As portable application/data platforms. Back in the late '90s I was thinking that as computing power and storage capacity increased, in smaller and smaller packages, that we could have a hand-held device that *was* your compu...
[02:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:37] <exec> 08└─Things went downhill after they lost the talented Peter Bright aka @DrPizza.
[02:24:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 593 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:52] <exec> 08└─What's a real shame is that you paid it at all. It only enables their bullshit behavior, which is continually getting worse. The state of things right now versus 10 years ago is farking horrible. It may not be easy, but move away completely. The more time you spend in their environment, the harder i...
[02:24:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:24:59] <exec> 08└─But, it's just rape with a micro soft dick. Nobody really minds, much.
[02:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:01] <exec> 08└─From someone to preach to me that it's a "real shame" that I paid for Windows Pro just makes me feel like someone is telling me what to do, what is right and what is wrong.
[02:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:03] <exec> 08└─gasoline or gunpowder
[02:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Postmates Dealt Blow as California Judge Denies AB 5 Injunction - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:23] <exec> 08└─You may be deliberately misunderstanding me. "Government run" healthcare would be stupid, so nobody has their government run their healthcare system. What they do is have a publicly funded system that healthcare experts run. As an example, when Mrs. PartTimeZombie fell down the stairs a couple of...
[02:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03helel [2949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Postmates Dealt Blow as California Judge Denies AB 5 Injunction - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:25] <exec> 08└─The right question to ask would be "Are you willing to give the a handful of sociopaths with business degrees 100% control of what healthcare you and everybody receives?" If they answer "no" then they are clearly against the "free market" solution we are using now and can be assumed to favor governm...
[02:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:15] <exec> 08└─Yeah...it's weird how the same people who keep going "she lost, get over it" just can't seem to get over it. Then again, a fair number of them fly the Confederate battle flag, i.e., the 160-year-old Traitors' Cum Sock On a Stick, so... :D
[02:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06South Korea's Government Explores Move from Windows to Linux Desktop - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:40] <exec> 08└─You slightly misunderstood me. I'm not saying it is bad to be wined and dined. Nor did I say it was bad to get a discount or announce your intentions. Now that I'm thinking of it, I'm not really passing a value judgment. Instead, I'm commenting that if I were a more jaded, the entire reason for the...
[02:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:15] <exec> 08└─20 years back, there was a northern service early train at about £25 return, leave Manchester at 7AM, depart Euston at 8PM. At 3% pa, that ticket should be around £45 but today the cheapest I can find is £175, dropping to £111 with a 5am departure. You can get a plane for less and £175 is aroun...
[02:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 1287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:27] <exec> 08└─Quick, patent that as a business model! We're going to be RICH! Not just billionaires, we'll be MILLIONAIRES! (no, I'm not an Austin Powers fan, but that quote stuck with me). There was a sci-fi story where people could visit AI copies of the dead, but they would gradually deteriorate on purpose to...
[02:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:28] <exec> 08└─You're probably thinking of this sci-fi tear jerker presented by Dust: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] The blurb: "What if Wendy" by James A. Sims As her deceased daughter's birthday approaches, Dr. Mara Stevens begins to ask herself, what if Wendy hadn't died? WHAT IF WEND...
[02:29:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:30] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's the one. It's a story repeated often enough throughout human history, but here, we have tech to make things worse or better. Nice catch! And for the rest of you, it's a pleasant enough mini-movie to distract you for several minutes when you don't really want to tend to business.
[02:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:05] <exec> 08└─Are we still in the context of EV? 'Cause it seems we're talking together and understanding each other separately.
[02:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:07] <exec> 08└─So jail breaking is perfectly legal, same as any other aftermarket stuff from any supplier.
[02:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:09] <exec> 08└─True. I forgot about point 2.
[02:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:11] <exec> 08└─10 amp is not EV. You're the one who brought up conventional automotive amperages, not me. Even at 400 volts, 10 amps is only about 6 horsepower. Might be good for a lawnmower or a golf cart, but not a passenger car.
[02:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:13] <exec> 08└─10 amp is not EV Not, it's not. However it's the limit in which you will start needing to pay attention to the rating of the electronic components you are using and the point in which you need to start thinking twice about controlling the current with a simple mechanical trimpot/rheostat.
[02:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:15] <exec> 08└─Old home thermostats had no problems controlling electrical heating systems running at 220/240v and 25a. Aviation circuits run at 480v to save weight. The switches were purely mechanical. So are circuit breakers in my power box. Mechanical switches can control 10kvolt circuits running 100 - 400 amps...
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[02:34:48] <exec> 08└─Generally you're right, but for sure Slackware and Alpine have 32-bit versions.
[02:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:50] <exec> 08└─Thanks! I'll try it. Over the years I've tried Debian, Ubuntu, and Mint and liked them, but generally I prefer simpler smaller less "stuff". Hardware is bigger and faster now so it'll be okay. Is there a good GUI-based package manager for Devuan?
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[03:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:11] <exec> 08└─The coronavirus is relevant - how? The virus news is little more than a month old at this point, right? The US government declared War on Huawei more than two years ago, right? And, "cheap" is relative. Pretty much all of the world's electronics are made in China these days, isn't it? OK, not all, b...
[03:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:13] <exec> 08└─We're coming for you, Anonymous Coward. The first rule of Four Bears is, nobody talks about Four Bears. - NSA
[03:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:15] <exec> 08└─It's been widely known amongst techies that the NSA has been spying on us since the 80s, starting with the notorious phone closet in the bay area. The NSA has been caught red handed several times. Yet some rando Chinese company, whom most people had never heard of until maybe a year ago, is now the...
[03:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:17] <exec> 08└─Yea, that's my initial reaction as well - Huawei can point to all sort of other entities committing the crime all they want, but that doesn't really absolve them from the allegations. Its like the support of their claim that they don't have the capability to do it others doing it better - weak sauce...
[03:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:24:36] <exec> 08└─I'm using it to write this. The reception isn't very good and the touchscreen sucks horribly, but it has good specs. For $1000, definitely not a good value at all. I got mine on fire sale for $250, and it was probably worth that. It looks amazing, but appearance isn't everything. Best part is that i...
[03:25:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:04] <exec> 08└─Fair enough, I guess. You're right. A woman has every right to stay with the man that beats her. Every right to still love and support him, and speak about the nice parts of his character. At the same time, everyone else on the outside of that relationship is quite reasonable calling the whole situa...
[03:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:05] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously comparing my choice of Windows over Linux with domestic violence?
[03:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:07] <exec> 08└─Why aren't you using Freshbooks? https://www.freshbooks.com [freshbooks.com] There are a few alternatives to Quickbooks for Linux Distros: https://alternativeto.net [alternativeto.net]
[03:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:09] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously comparing my choice of Windows over Linux with domestic violence?
[03:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah...sounds like a protection racket to me. "Nice little computer you got there. Be a shame if anything bad were to happen to it. So if you give us some money every so often, we won't hurt your little computer".
[03:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Bird Flocks With Multiple Species Behave Like K-Pop Groups - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:26] <exec> 08└─Another click, another phys.org bullpost
[03:26:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Uber, Postmates Dealt Blow as California Judge Denies AB 5 Injunction - 470 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:22] <exec> 08└─More reasonable, the human workers should receive all routine maintainance and repairs (healthcare) the ability to afford good food (properly conditioned power), and adequate shelter. If (for example) fast food restaurants treated their equipment like they treat their workers, the fry vat would be i...
[03:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:24] <exec> 08└─No no no no, facts have to come from twitter. There is a specific twitter account they need to come from though
[03:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Historic Crew Dragon Flight Now Targeted for an Early May Launch - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:37] <exec> 08└─Do you imply that private enterprize is way below communist one?
[03:29:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sorrow-Stricken Mother Reunites With Deceased Daughter in Virtual World - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:38] <exec> 08└─That is really twisting the definition of "life".
[03:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:21] <exec> 08└─Tesla will simply team up with magnavolt to dissuade jailbreakers, see this promo video https://youtu.be [youtu.be]
[03:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:22] <exec> 08└─Making is good, and I sincerely hope we continue to make progress in what can be accomplished in the garage, but it's a bit silly to suggest that it's mere existence invalidates any concerns for large corporations claiming "ours is ours. Yours is also ours now.".
[03:31:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:24] <exec> 08└─What do you think people did before the transistor was invented?
[03:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:26] <exec> 08└─but it's a bit silly to suggest that it's mere existence invalidates any concerns for large corporations claiming "ours is ours. Yours is also ours now.".
[03:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:28] <exec> 08└─In other words you can't admit you were wrong about 10a power and are deflecting. And electric cars are also wasting resources in comparison to public transit - even diesel hybrid buses are greener than individual electric cars: and of course pedal power and walking are even greener. And so are golf...
[03:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:30] <exec> 08└─In other words you can't admit you were wrong about 10a power and are deflecting.
[03:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:32] <exec> 08└─This [clutch in driveline] will absolutely kill your mileage and likely fry your motor...
[03:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Carbon Dioxide Emissions Defying Expectations - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:44] <exec> 08└─Not disagreeing, but can you elaborate more on the "very lucrative scam going"?
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[04:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:56] <exec> 08└─AMD can issue a press release and gets tens of thousands of people watching a product announcement stream on YouTube. That info is immediately reposted on hundreds of tech sites. Samsung and others can do the same. it's where companies hammer out deals behind the scenes
[04:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:23:58] <exec> 08└─Without a doubt this will benefit the big players (e.g. Apple, Samsung), as they don't rely on MWC to cut deals like this. It will be very interesting to see how this year plays out without MWC. It's possible that the industry works out other ways to get business done. If that happens (which I think...
[04:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:00] <exec> 08└─Maybe the industry will figure out how to run a virtual trade show on their phones!
[04:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:18] <exec> 08└─Huawei pointing the finger to the NSA is beside the point. For most Americans, it's a given that the NSA will be snooping your data, whether legal or not. That much can't be avoided. What we're talking about is (supposedly) putting extra snooping on top of that by adding Huawei gear, and sending dat...
[04:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:11] <exec> 08└─I was channeling a sassy black woman, so I wouldn't exactly say seriously. That said however, I stand by the analogy. For what it's worth, I used Windows my whole life till their telemetry bullshit in Windows 7. I disabled it at first, used pirate versions that had already been cleared by many other...
[04:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:25] <exec> 08└─What are the costs of maintaining highway infrastructure versus high speed rail maintenance?
[04:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People Are Jailbreaking Used Teslas to Get the Features They Expect - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:31:29] <exec> 08└─I did call it a safety device, not something to misuse on a daily basis.
[04:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Brings on NASA's Former top Spaceflight Official as it Prepares to Launch First Astronauts - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:31:42] <exec> 08└─https://twitter.com/Lori_Garver/status/1227314895533813761 [twitter.com]
[04:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 7 "You Don't Have Permission to Shutdown and Restart This Computer" - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:09] <exec> 08└─Not sure. I normally use aptitude in interactive mode. Oh! Synaptic seems to be available. I just looked and found it under "preferences" on LXQt's main menu. -- hendrik
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[05:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:08] <exec> 08└─Commie China is mightier than Google/Apple/Princess Cruise all put together. The Power of Stir-fried Bats! What happened to batman, btw?
[05:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:10] <exec> 08└─This could well spell the end of the company-sponsored trade show junket for good.
[05:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:12] <exec> 08└─The Joker made him drink the soup.
[05:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:14] <exec> 08└─Virtual reality attendance of virtual trade shows. It was probably coming soon even without the hot new trend of superbugs destroying conferences.
[05:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:16] <exec> 08└─You're thinking about consumer shows. Trade shows are where retailers link up with suppliers and go through their on-display products. For small Chinese suppliers it's quite devastating not having a platform to meet up with the likes of Wallmart.
[05:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:18] <exec> 08└─Bat soup? That's like ... cannibalism or sum. I don't mean to judge, though.
[05:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:20] <exec> 08└─It's always sad when people are dying, but a disease that managed to take out the smartphone industry could have been a net benefit. Maybe next plague.
[05:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:22] <exec> 08└─"Maybe next plague. " Yeah, this one won't do. It killed loads in China, but mostly in the city of Wuhan and the province of Hubei where the city sits in, and outside that, even in China, it appears to be viral infectrion no worse than a common flu. I have no love for the xi the poo regime, but I pr...
[05:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:42] <exec> 08└─You're sounding particularly stupid today. Missed your meds?
[05:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:44] <exec> 08└─Whether the US is stealing my data or not, I still don't want China (or any other country, for that matter) to collect data about me.
[05:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:46] <exec> 08└─Yea, that's my initial reaction as well - Huawei can point to all sort of other entities committing the crime all they want, but that doesn't really absolve them from the allegations.
[05:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:48] <exec> 08└─If it's a matter of choice, I'd rather China/Russia/Zimbabwe be spying on me than the NSA or other domestic services. At least until we get the Mossad and the globohomo out of our intelligence agencies and they re-learn how to focus on real threats instead of people voting for the wrong candidate or...
[05:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:08] <exec> 08└─Things went downhill at Ars at least a couple of years before he left, when the staff was suddenly severely cut back, the site's interface became optimized just for mobiles, and the remaining staff began placing a much bigger emphasis on making videos instead of writing articles.
[05:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06MWC Barcelona 2020: "Mobile World Congress" or "Most Won't Come"? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:32:35] <exec> 08└─Other thing I am looking to confirm is any bodies moving after being diagnosed as dead, and, not kidding, I heard one report of 'cannabilistic' properties. But only the one.
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[06:24:16] <exec> 08└─Batman? Still a year away [wikipedia.org]
[06:24:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:17] <exec> 08└─The Coronavirus won't destroy trade shows per-se, but if businesses can successfully achieve the goals that would normally be achieved at the trade show this year (without having to actually attend the trade show), then they may decide that the show is no longer a cost-efficient way of getting thing...
[06:24:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:41] <exec> 08└─The first rule of Four Bears is, nobody talks about Four Bears
[06:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:43] <exec> 08└─Why isn't Drump spouting off about this Washington Post article being anti-American propaganda the from known Left-loving mainstream media? Surely this is the time to call "fake news!" to preserve the nation's global standing in international eyes, right? Right?
[06:24:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:45] <exec> 08└─> Never mind nobody has ever found a backdoor in their equipment. Oh, right. Those secure enclaves which authorize updates peripheral firmware and processor microcode are locked with a key given only to the hardware purchaser. And never used for security or performance updates with something only Hu...
[06:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:47] <exec> 08└─UGH! Another Aristaph post!
[06:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:24:49] <exec> 08└─America started tapping telegraph lines during their civil war in the 1860's, not too mention sending false information.
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[06:25:43] <exec> 08└─newer than LGA775 or the X58 LGA1366? An AMD system newer than AM3+? An AMD or Nvidia GPU newer than RX580 or GM1xx? USB3? All of these are capable of spying on you or restricting your rightful use of your system to varying degrees. Same with the RPi4 and all the RK3399 based hardware, nevermind the...
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[06:27:55] <exec> 08└─[spoiler] Donald Trump's account.
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[07:23:55] <exec> 08└─The same as it ever was. New and shiny, easy distractions, humans get sucked in. Fads come and go, and addictive activities have been around forever. Society will come to terms with it, people will learn to regulate, the next generation of kids will hopefully be taught better. I also think a large p...
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[07:23:57] <exec> 08└─I thought it might be because of a feedback loop between video-on-demand and longer-story-arc content constructed more to blur episode boundaries.
[07:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:59] <exec> 08└─We grow bored, oh powers that SoylentNews Eds be, with the quality of submissions. Any more like this, and I may have to go to Boing-boing-boing. Seriously.
[07:25:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:48] <exec> 08└─It was an Alien Anal probe you could use as radar or a weapon if I remember correctly. Yes South Park is starting to become like the 'Simpsons did it!' episode they parodied it with.
[07:26:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 Pro Can't Handle AMD's 64-Core Threadripper 3990X... Try Intel's Clear Linux Instead - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:34] <exec> 08└─"Nertz to that," I say. NeXT buying Apple was the best thing that could have happened to Apple.
[07:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:29:03] <exec> 08└─Scotland may have responsibility for their own rail infrastructure, but they get a budget for it too. Because the UK is spending all this extra money on high-speed rail in England, the federal funding rules (Barnett formula) mean that Scotland gets a certain proportion of the total cost to spend as...
[07:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:29:05] <exec> 08└─It will once the second phase is built (assuming it is built as currently planned).
[07:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:29:07] <exec> 08└─Which is part of why the rail company have been able to increase the anytime fare so high: they've got a captive audience.
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[08:23:58] <exec> 08└─We grow bored, ... Seriously.
[08:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:23:59] <exec> 08└─Or, instead, Actual Soylentils could submit articles of interest, much as the beloved aristarchus does with some persistance and regularity. Couldn't hurt. We should all take a clue from Phoenix666: The man can sub!
[08:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:01] <exec> 08└─I find porn can pull me away.
[08:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:03] <exec> 08└─aristarchus is bored? I'll believe it when he leaves.
[08:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:05] <exec> 08└─of pervasive surveillance when you are out in society. With every passing year I feel more comfortable in my house, the last bastion of privacy in an otherwise privacy-free world. Maybe i could move to the country, or emigrate somewhere it is less pervasive, but for how long, and at what cost?
[08:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:24:07] <exec> 08└─It wasn't until I was there, on my knees, clutching the fully erect penis of the legendary bigfoot where I could comfort. I burned my face into his large, hairy scrotum and cried for a solid ten minutes. Afterwards he showed me how to give oral though, so at least I have that going for me.
[08:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:02] <exec> 08└─I was sure my first trip to the zoo as a 70 year old would be boring. Not at all! I was picked from a crowd of tourists to insert my albino penis into an elephant's anus. I never knew home until that moment. The moment I dumped my load into a feisty elephant's anus. I disassociated a bit and turned...
[08:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Frosty Piss [4971] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:24] <exec> 08└─And that is the point. This project was DOA.
[08:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Second GPU Cloudburst Experiment Yields New Findings: 100 fp32 PFLOPS Readily Available in the Cloud - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:40] <exec> 08└─Oh, I dunno, analysing the behaviour of neutrinos is I think a worthy use of that energy. Getting a small step closer to unlocking the mysteries of the universe is a wonderful goal in my book, and its sad to see you value it on the level of analysing market valuations.
[08:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:17] <exec> 08└─You obviously haven't been paying attention to her urges.
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[09:24:11] <exec> 08└─Aristarchus has been here since the beginning. And his case, FuckBeta started circa 235BC. We are not likely to be rid of him anytime soon. On the other hand, Runaway's diet is extremely unhealthy. We expect a life-interrupting medical event any day now.
[09:24:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:12] <exec> 08└─I also think a ... etc..
[09:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:15] <exec> 08└─sorta started to hate programming
[09:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:24:17] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately yes. Graduated physics, no chance in hell to make a living, I made a profession from what was a hobby at the time.
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[09:25:12] <exec> 08└─China typically looks for things like military and intellectual property secrets
[09:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:13] <exec> 08└─maybe this wowway "attack" isn't about the present but more about the future. the "security agencies" of the country now that telecoms will keep exploding (growth). maybe the wowway equipment doesnt have backdoors (just software error like any software does.) but if they cede the field to woway toda...
[09:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:28] <exec> 08└─I guess Facebook using such fact checkers to remove your posts would be censorship, but [reasons why some people think that's ok].
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[10:23:55] <exec> 08└─But then I met a beautiful mermaid, who told me the ocean floor was not flat, but actually round, kind of like her titties. After convincing me to share her "air", I found we could both explore together as I no longer required oxygen. I didn't breathe the water, I just didn't need to breathe anymore...
[10:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:24:15] <exec> 08└─We? Speak for yourself. I will never have any DRM'd crap on any of my computers.
[10:25:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 516 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:27] <exec> 08└─I don't think Andy Rubin put much of his own money into Essential. He managed to raise $350 million in "outside funding" which would be the venture capital crowd. Pissing the VC's money up against a wall is a good thing, because Essential will have used a lot of that money to pay people, meaning th...
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[10:26:57] <exec> 08└─64 threads should be enough for anybody.
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[11:27:39] <exec> 08└─The right question is: "Do you feel that decisions about your health should be performed by businessmen with no medical background and a vested interest in paying out a minimum, by certified health care professionals with a vested interest in restoring your health, or something else?" Only answering...
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[12:24:22] <exec> 08└─You're right that there could be a feedback loop now - but the longer-story-arc thing got trendy back in the 90s (with shows like Murder One, Babylon 5 and Buffy) when a 'box set' was a bookshelf full of VHS tapes for True Fans only... and the "ongoing story" format was basically borrowed from soap...
[12:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:24:23] <exec> 08└─How about binge submitting? (Hint: the writing will spare you the reading)
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[12:26:18] <exec> 08└─The user/victim of Windows 10 (it should be called Windows SAD, for spyware, adware, DRM) is not the main enabler. Windows was made worse and worse over time and users were made to accept it by the tactics of planned (and enforced) obsolesence, perpetual beta test, and reinventing the wheel that are...
[12:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Atoms Create Stable Qubits For Quantum Computing - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:18] <exec> 08└─Bohr's model had orbits, not orbitals. Orbitals are the single-electron quantum eigenstates predicted by quantum mechanics. Orbital states are still an approximation (because they neglect electron correlations and treat the electromagnetic field classically) but a much better one than Bohr's orbits....
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[13:27:26] <exec> 08└─It certainly looks interesting, however note that up to now they only did single-qubit operations. While those are of course important, the true power of quantum computation comes with two-qubit operations. Before they did that, I'd be careful about judging the promise. For example, with photons we...
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[14:24:09] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a great project. I hope it succeeds. Mostly I hope it locates shipwrecks and sunken dwellings so underwater archaeologists can dive on them and uncover new chapters in the human story. For example, we've learned a lot from chance finds in Doggerland [wikipedia.org] and from shipwrec...
[14:24:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:24:33] <exec> 08└─My kids still watch Netflix. (I won't let them watch Hulu because of all the commercials.) But I noticed that Netflix has suddenly added movies that people actually want to see back to their library, movies like Inception and Dirty Harry. We all know that Netflix has minute metrics on viewer habits...
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[14:24:59] <exec> 08└─If they're dependent only on this one trade show to make business connections they're dead anyway. It's just another marketing tool, not "the one and only." And seriously, nobody's really interested in another 250 different generic Android phones anyway. Same as tablets. No longer a hot commodity it...
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[14:25:01] <exec> 08└─AMD can issue a press release and gets tens of thousands of people watching a product announcement stream on YouTube.
[14:25:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 600 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:18] <exec> 08└─It's been widely known amongst techies that the NSA has been spying on us since the 80s, starting with the notorious phone closet in the bay area. The NSA has been caught red handed several times. Yet some rando Chinese company, whom most people had never heard of until maybe a year ago, is now the...
[14:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:33] <exec> 08└─Those things do not go on black market for sale on their own, you know. Governments do not operate malware rings, just make their criminals an offer they cannot refuse, and it is not state coffers that are paying them.
[14:26:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:06] <exec> 08└─How the fuck do you even? Who accidentally puts in the equivalent of a "mv /home/userfoo /home/userfoo.bak" in an OS patch?! Oh wait. I heard "homed" is a thing now. Never mind - the Linux community won't have to feel left out much longer on this topic either...
[14:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:32] <exec> 08└─Absolutely not. Your choice is being compared with enabling a domestic abuser. The offense might differ in degree, but the experiences of the victims are similar. To be fair, abusers are really, really good - exceptional even - at making their victims feel like they're the ones that did something wr...
[14:29:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 1099 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:57] <exec> 08└─You can also fly from Manchester to London, it's a similar price, but the frequency is far worse. If you care more about cost than time, you can travel from manchester to london for £45 return, departing Manchester after 0729, returning from Euston at any time after 0845. Takes about 4h, so still f...
[14:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:59] <exec> 08└─Yes, the strongest argument against HS2 is "they won't build it to the north". Even then it will at least help Birmingham
[14:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 1800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:01] <exec> 08└─Almost everything you've written is wrong > I can get from London to Leeds for far less than £100 by car, including parking Parking in central london, plus congestion charge, will set you back nearly that much, unless you're parking someone miles from your destination and relying on the tube Train...
[14:30:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:03] <exec> 08└─Yet far more people will choose to pay far far more to travel by train. I think that shows what a bad idea long distance buses are.
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[15:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobmorning [6045] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:24:08] <exec> 08└─https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2019/05/06/elon-musks-war-on-lidar-who-is-right-and-why-do-they-think-that/#74fb9c5c2a3b [forbes.com] A family member works for one of the autonomous geo-fenced autonomous auto companies. As told to me: any precip beyond a mist renders LIDAR useless, sleet/...
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[15:24:16] <exec> 08└─In naval battle simulations of opponents with equal resources, the side that goes for a huge number of small ships clearly dominates the side that goes for a small number of huge ships. A minimal (unmanned) mapping submarine that is _just_ capable of reaching the target area and returning the desire...
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[15:24:41] <exec> 08└─Hence the old saw "never do anything you enjoy as a job because eventually you'll hate it." Unfortunately it's true. It proves that "get a job doing something you really enjoy and you'll never have to really work another day of your life" is full of crap, because once the fun is gone, what do you do...
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[15:24:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah, doesn't that suck (for real). I have a few friends that became scientists. They were shocked and amazed and alarmed and then upset and depressed that their friends in IT were making more money and doing work that wasn't nearly as political (as, perhaps, a government lab) and wasn't nearly as d...
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[15:26:43] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously comparing my choice of Windows over Linux with domestic violence?
[15:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobmorning [6045] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:45] <exec> 08└─Interesting, I'll take a look at it.
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[16:23:53] <exec> 08└─So what is Calamares? Google just gives me fried squid recipes.
[16:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:07] <exec> 08└─Expand your viewpoint? Do cameras work in mist and sleet/snow? In some respects like dynamic range, eyes are considerably better than most cameras - https://www.cambridgeincolour.com [cambridgeincolour.com] From my limited reading (several auto trade magazines/site...
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[16:24:43] <exec> 08└─Human sleepcycles have been disrupted by TV ever since it first entered the market and it has been keeping people up past their bedtime ever since. Feeling sleepy at 8PM in the 60's? Instead of reading a good book in bed until you fall asleep, now you can lay on the couch and intermittently doze whi...
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[16:24:44] <exec> 08└─Here, in the last bit: Before the advent of streaming, people had to wait for a week before a new episode of a TV series was released. But streaming platforms now often release whole series of episodes in one go. Their system also automatically plays the teaser of the next episode. This strategy cha...
[16:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hybrid Microscope Could Bring Digital Biopsy to the Clinic - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:24:51] <exec> 08└─technically , quite interesting adding different measurement platforms to observe the *same* sample. Obviously, needs a blockchain....;-)
[16:25:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Fluffeh [954] 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:25] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think it's one step further. "Only we're supposed to be able to do that!"
[16:25:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mykl [1112] 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 490 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:32] <exec> 08└─Huawei pointing the finger to the NSA is beside the point. For most Americans, it's a given that the NSA will be snooping your data, whether legal or not. That much can't be avoided. What we're talking about is (supposedly) putting extra snooping on top of that by adding Huawei gear, and sending dat...
[16:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:46] <exec> 08└─Oh, right. Those secure enclaves which authorize updates peripheral firmware and processor microcode are locked with a key given only to the hardware purchaser. And never used for security or performance updates with something only Huawei-signed. And right, they're violating Chinese law by not only...
[16:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:10] <exec> 08└─I had 2. I liked the phone, when it worked. The first was DOA, don't remember the specific issue. The second worked for a week before it developed the same issue. I got a different phone after that.
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[17:24:03] <exec> 08└─http://calamares.io/ [calamares.io]
[17:24:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:04] <exec> 08└─Noodly appendages are noodly appendages, no matter what they try to name it.
[17:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:06] <exec> 08└─Google can't seem to direct me to a place that will actually sell me a board like what Mr. Carter has... I'd like to buy one if it's not too expensive, say $100 or less.
[17:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 1218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:08] <exec> 08└─I really want to see a continued emphasis on lower power in computing. I would be a much bigger fan of the Intel NUC line if they didn't have fans anymore, but they seem to be drifting development back into the higher power draws again - even killing their smaller form factor variants presumably due...
[17:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:22] <exec> 08└─It is interesting that the only most popular device that can drive a car, a Human, uses a combination of stereoscopic vision, mirrors, hearing, and feeling to drive. Yet most of the devices on the market use Lidar. Since humans also created the system of roads, cars, and laws; we must conclude that...
[17:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:32] <exec> 08└─The Zerg win again?
[17:25:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:01] <exec> 08└─added movies that people actually want to see back to their library, movies like Inception and Dirty Harry
[17:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hybrid Microscope Could Bring Digital Biopsy to the Clinic - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:09] <exec> 08└─It would be interested to see this idea adapted for the open-source Open Flexure [openflexure.org] microscope.
[17:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:07] <exec> 08└─Read your history douche. You aren't half as right as you think you are.
[17:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:08] <exec> 08└─And the UK has an institution specifically investigating Huawei's 5G offerings with complete access to source code. Over several years they have not found any evidence of embedded malware. Sounds like such inspection would be useful with a lot of software we already rely on every day.
[17:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:10] <exec> 08└─What Washington post story? The one we have is from ArsTechnica.
[17:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:44] <exec> 08└─Yes indeed, there are a multitude of different options. I should have said that for people that need to be in London for the start of the working day, the anytime ticket is so high because they have a captive audience. (Except for those few that will choose to fly. But the air market for Manchester...
[17:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:45] <exec> 08└─Still other options - like travelling the night before. If your limit is “travelling from central London to central Manchester in under 2.5 hours” then yes, there are limited choices. But if fares were too high someone would start a London city to Barton scheduled flight. Fact is that plenty of...
[17:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Historic Crew Dragon Flight Now Targeted for an Early May Launch - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:01] <exec> 08└─The difference is that the government is not a private company. The Martin company was a contractor. SpaceX might at some point launch private commercial astronauts for its own commercial (non government) purposes. There is a difference. Maybe you don't see it as a BIG difference, but it is a differ...
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[18:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:53] <exec> 08└─At the current rate of progress, scientists' estimate of Earth's creation time will coincide with that given in the Bible.
[18:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:55] <exec> 08└─wait did't they figure 5000 years in the bronze age?
[18:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:57] <exec> 08└─There's age and there's creation time. The Earth is estimated to be 6000 years old,[citation needed] but it was created in one day.[citation needed]
[18:23:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:23:59] <exec> 08└─If we start on Earth-2 with this kind of time table, that'll coincide with around when I'll be able to retire there.
[18:24:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:01] <exec> 08└─At the current rate of progress, scientists' estimate of Earth's creation time will coincide with that given in the Bible.
[18:24:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:03] <exec> 08└─Turns out, figuring out exactly what was going on millions of years ago is kinda hard. Go figure!
[18:24:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:15] <exec> 08└─It's software that offers functionality which Poettering hasn't incorporated into SystemD yet.
[18:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:16] <exec> 08└─I would be a much bigger fan of the Intel NUC line if they didn't have fans anymore
[18:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:31] <exec> 08└─** and a pox upon them both for some of the GPPs that lurk around here, self-loathing being one of the common traits
[18:25:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:10] <exec> 08└─You get +3 anonymous upmods Someone should make a sketch where a couple of guys in trench coats just follow someone around, some minor law is broken and they pull in the coats as witnesses and the defendant asks "you really had these guys follow me around just for that?" and the judge replies "well...
[18:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:12] <exec> 08└─Rogue chemist? Sheeeit, do you know how much rogue physicists get paid? Actually, nothing. They get paid in food, shelter, and threats to their family. Fuckin' dictators want their big boom booms but never wanna pay a decent henchman wage.
[18:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:14] <exec> 08└─On my streaming system, when you reach the end of an episode, a press of the pause button ends the current episode, but launches the next one. To disengage you have either kill the power, switch to another TV input, or press pause a second time (or home).
[18:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:16] <exec> 08└─SG1 is probably my favorite show of all time. Enjoyed it up to the end of Season 10. Had it kept going and kept their style I would still be happily watching it yet. I was afraid it would change after RDA retired more or less, but it stayed interesting to me. Enjoyed Atlantis thoroughly too. Univers...
[18:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:18] <exec> 08└─Programming is great if you're writing code you care about. If you're writing software you want to use yourself. Programming isn't so hot if you're writing code you don't care about. That's the difference between a hobby and a job.
[18:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:20] <exec> 08└─My Netflix has a configuration option where you can specify not to automatically start the next episode. I have to ask to see it if I want to. My Crave subscription (another streaming service here) automatically goes episode to episode without pause unless I explicitly stop it. I much prefer the Net...
[18:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hybrid Microscope Could Bring Digital Biopsy to the Clinic - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:30] <exec> 08└─IANAL, but it is probably illegal for someone to access this paper for free and without a subscription via Sci-Hub at this URL: https://sci-hub.tw [sci-hub.tw]
[18:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:52] <exec> 08└─it appears to be viral infectrion no worse than a common flu.
[18:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 1397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:31] <exec> 08└─I have no clue and I wish more people would post and respond to these types of posts rather than ranting and whining about things we already know (Stop using SoylentNews as your emotional dumping ground please. Get a real friend for that). My only guess is when testing patches, the developers genera...
[18:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, the absolute speed of a high-speed train is higher. But you have to travel on their schedule. You have to try to get tickets. You have to lug your gear to the station and hope the train doesn't lose it. You have to submit to an anal probe and advanced genital fondling from security. And unless...
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[19:23:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:54] <exec> 08└─Does Apple get a break there because the employees enjoy it?
[19:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:55] <exec> 08└─Other companies don't get a financial break if their employees have job satisfaction. Why should Apple?
[19:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:08] <exec> 08└─Citation: "The Bible", Moses (with assitance from God), circa 1300 BC.
[19:24:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:23] <exec> 08└─So - the point of lower power is, in part, to reduce fan dependency. At ~10W you can start to have a really nice, small, passively cooled package. At ~1W like the Pi Zero, it's pretty well small as it can get - the cable connectors are starting to drive the form factor instead of the active componen...
[19:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:24] <exec> 08└─As I seem to recall, the IBM PC was the first popular microcomputer to have fans. The "holy trinity" introduced in 1977 (TRS-80, Apple II, Commodore PET) did not have fans. There were some bigger "microcomputers" in larger cabinets, for business, that may have had fans, but I don't know.
[19:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:26] <exec> 08└─I had an Atari 800 in 1982 - I believe its 6502 ran a bit under 2MHz, and its RAM came on 16K cards which were prone to overheating, unless you removed the "user friendly case" that the boards were mounted in and just stuck the bare cards in the slots - then they had enough passive cooling to keep t...
[19:24:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:42] <exec> 08└─But is Lidar better?
[19:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:43] <exec> 08└─>> we just don't have the processing power in our computers yet to handle it? Add to that the central focus acuity of the constantly moving (saccade) eyes and the local processing in the retina -- still much better (I believe) than affordable cameras for the driving task.
[19:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:55] <exec> 08└─The only reason the Zerg don't overrun the whole universe is because Blizzard keeps tweaking their balance downward... ;-)
[19:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:56] <exec> 08└─So we need a large number of cheap, high explosive attack drone boats. Like bees. A swarm that can overwhelm the defenses of the ship being attacked. A minimal unmanned mapping submarine could be expendable. It surfaces, phones home via satellite, then heads home if possible, or scuttles itself into...
[19:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:33] <exec> 08└─a lot of shows run very similar style based on suspense. Unfortunately there is rarely anything to wait for and the journey is nothing great.
[19:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:34] <exec> 08└─of pervasive surveillance when you are out in society.
[19:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:46] <exec> 08└─...are dependent financially on some particular piece of software to run their business or are (emotionally) dependent on gaming in the Windows world.
[19:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:48] <exec> 08└─Possibly. Sometimes they just do not want to learn something else. i.e. As I said, inertia. Just like an abused mate that doesn't want to find someone else. "He may hit me, but he takes care of me."
[19:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:12] <exec> 08└─I hesitate to even file this under "critical thinking needed" since it is more like basic reading comprehension, but OK let's try and sort this out. "Someone fact checking someone else is not censorship." Completely accurate. "Facebook using such fact checkers to remove your posts would be censorshi...
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[20:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:56] <exec> 08└─I don't quite understand what Apple's position is here. If you can't leave until your employer lets you leave, how is that time you're waiting not considered work time?
[20:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:57] <exec> 08└─You know... the Amazon case. I'd like to give you the name of it, but none of the craptastic articles would give me the name either: https://www.cnet.com [cnet.com] https://www.latimes.com
[20:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:59] <exec> 08└─So, the final step is clear... How could this possibly have happened?!
[20:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:02] <exec> 08└─But not enough to say that Apple's gonna owe them ... bag-time.
[20:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:04] <exec> 08└─Their point was that the employees didn't have to bring bags to work with them, therefore Apple's allowing them to bring their bags was of benefit and convenience to the employees and it was an costly to the company to have a manager immediately available for bag searches. Therefore the employees we...
[20:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:06] <exec> 08└─Nope. Amazon does not require their employees to change / cover up their official company workwear before leaving the building.
[20:24:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:08] <exec> 08└─how is that time you're waiting not considered work time?
[20:24:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:10] <exec> 08└─Dear Apple, Think Differenter! Furnish employees with Apple uniforms for work. When turned inside out, the clothes now look like regular diverse street clothes not associated with employment at Apple. Employees don't need a change of clothes. They just turn their clothes inside-out.
[20:24:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:12] <exec> 08└─So the court ruled in favor of the employees in this case but against them in one about Amazon? https://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com]
[20:24:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:14] <exec> 08└─But not enough to say that Apple's gonna owe them ... bag-time.
[20:24:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:28] <exec> 08└─A mistake was made.
[20:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:29] <exec> 08└─Well yeah, the earth was spinning real slow back then. I'm just happy it was there when I got here.
[20:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:31] <exec> 08└─6 days. On the Sabbath, God rested.
[20:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:33] <exec> 08└─Science Magazine and Science Advances are different titles published by AAAS. Science Advances is their new open access journal, while Science Magazine is older but paywalled.
[20:24:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:50] <exec> 08└─Apple III, as I recall, was the first one to be right on the edge of desperately needing a fan. I remember many times I could stop typing, reach my fingers to its lower sides and feel how "warm" the metal underbelly was. (elevated off desk by rubber feet) And sometimes "warm" was an understatement....
[20:24:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:24:52] <exec> 08└─maybe this is just basement computer user lore myth but wasn't mips always a bit geared towards i/o; emphasizing the computer on a network? arm on the other hand ... a capable low-power standalone calculator?
[20:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Lidar Makers are Coping with Slow Progress of Self-Driving Tech - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:11] <exec> 08└─i think my vr uses lidar? anyways, methinks self driving cars just means you will not own a car but rent one for use sans driver. ofc those that can still afford a car in the future can send it to go pick up the actual physical calories after placing them in shopping cart in VR-shopping mall(tm) at...
[20:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:24] <exec> 08└─google earth shows some strange near straight line scars in the big oceans. i suppose these are made by legless dragon worms that roam the inside of the earth and appear when they burrow too close to the surface?
[20:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:02] <exec> 08└─While Babylon 5 is but one of many ongoing stories, B5 is fairly unique in that it had an actual climactic ending. Not a forced, contrived ending. But a real, satisfying, emotional end. Yet one that left open possibilities for other story arc series to start. We need more of THAT.
[20:26:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:03] <exec> 08└─But not for very long. Then what do you do? Homework? Binge watch TV but forget to turn the TV on first? Watch Barney the purple dinosaur and try to learn his songs?
[20:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:06] <exec> 08└─Do you have Intel Management Engine?
[20:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:08] <exec> 08└─once you've seen Clint Eastwood in a few movies, you know his acting style and how things are going to play out.
[20:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:10] <exec> 08└─Human sleepcycles are responsible for loss of ad revenue and something must be done about this!
[20:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:12] <exec> 08└─I first wrote about tech dysphoria a decade ago on the green site. I'm seeing more evidence that it's a thing as time goes on. Dysphoria: A mood of general dissatisfaction, restlessness, depression, and anxiety; a feeling of unpleasantness or discomfort. The opposite of euphoria.
[20:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:14] <exec> 08└─I didn't think they had a plot. Or acting. Binge watch 3 of them and it's just one big Groundhog Day.
[20:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:16] <exec> 08└─Because if you had to actually choose to watch the next episode, you might think "that episode was crap! I'll find something else." Repeat show after show, day after day, and you'll cancel your subscription because you realize it's mostly crap.
[20:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:18] <exec> 08└─It may not be much of a plot. But it's a plot. Poor suffering hero (or plain ol' ordinary guy) treated badly by evil bully(ies). After great injustice, he turns into super conquering hero and beats up all the bad guys with the violence of an evil bully. And gets the girl. Everyone lives happily ever...
[20:26:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:51] <exec> 08└─Does anyone really get excited over yet another smartphone any more, except the freaks who keep jazzing over non-operational crap
[20:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:52] <exec> 08└─It will be very interesting to see how this year plays out without MWC.
[20:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:55] <exec> 08└─a disease that managed to take out the smartphone industry could have been a net benefit. Maybe next plague.
[20:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:57] <exec> 08└─According to the urban dictionary it's is [urbandictionary.com]. Though I should imagine that like words such as centre, defence, etc,. there are alternative spellings.
[20:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:59] <exec> 08└─The link actually seems to say the opposite. But I suppose it depends upon what the meaning of the word 'iz' is.
[20:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:01] <exec> 08└─Alternative spellings are the wrong colour of grey. Forcing the reader to consider the 96% of the world population who live outside of US borders.
[20:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:38] <exec> 08└─As you say, the US subverting hardware and software of espionage purposes is long proven from Mark Klein to Snowden while the allegations against Huawei have no credible evidence yet proposed. But the fact that the United States is already guilty of such behavior is exactly why it feels justified in...
[20:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Fires Back, Points To US’ History Of Spying On Phone Networks - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:40] <exec> 08└─But the allegations against Huawei are only allegation, not evidence. (Unlike the opposite where evidence actually exists against the US). Those making the allegation are the ones who have the obligation to actually present evidence if they want the allegations believed. And I can very much believe...
[20:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:46] <exec> 08└─yes, you're free to do what you want, like a whore is. you fund the enemy of free humanity b/c you're too stupid and whorish to do what's right. your use case breeds STDs, you nasty skank.
[20:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Postmates Dealt Blow as California Judge Denies AB 5 Injunction - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:14] <exec> 08└─If Uber weren't suited whores they would move the fuck out of California. If...
[20:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Starts a Fact-Checking Partnership with Reuters - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:12] <exec> 08└─I'm honestly a little worried about how emotionally compromised these d00ds are, their need to "win" seems to trump everything else. Argue a point where they think they are right and logic, decency, and basic common sense just disappear in the most unironic way. I do believe this is the precursor to...
[20:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:24] <exec> 08└─i wonder what it's going to look like when a sand nigger sets off a bomb at 250mph.
[20:32:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New UK High Speed Railway Approved - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:25] <exec> 08└─If you've got a few thousand people travelling to London for the day, where would you park all those self-driving cars?
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[21:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Research Finds Earth's Oldest-Known Asteroid Strike Linked to `Big Thaw' - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:57] <exec> 08└─Well about time to give the asteroid a name, no? "howdareu" is OK?
[21:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Research Finds Earth's Oldest-Known Asteroid Strike Linked to `Big Thaw' - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:59] <exec> 08└─Squashtheabo
[21:24:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03krishnoid [1156] 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 63 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:11] <exec> 08└─But not enough to say that Apple's gonna owe them ... bag-time.
[21:24:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:20] <exec> 08└─" employees can't wear their workwear outside the workplace and therefore bringing something to put their Apple shirts in was actually of convenience to the company. "
[21:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:38] <exec> 08└─Turns out, figuring out exactly what was going on billions of years ago is kinda hard. Go figure!
[21:24:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:57] <exec> 08└─Mac had a power supply that could just barely power the machine without a single miliwatt to spare
[21:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:31] <exec> 08└─i heard about these mermaids. but i think you mean "oilmaids" and "oilmen". a sub species. from memory they inhabit the ocean just off the coast of texas -aka- the mexican gulf. there seems to plans to devide it into two parts with a underwater wall ...
[21:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:32] <exec> 08└─scuttles itself into shrapnel if unable to make it back home.
[21:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:21] <exec> 08└─I see. I'm not the customer Crave is aiming for. I subscribe to Crave because there are specific things I want to watch and they happen to be on Crave. Specifically, at the moment, Dr. Who and Picard. And I always stop after an episode, even if I plan to watch the next episode soon. But Netflix does...
[21:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:22] <exec> 08└─lol, they never figuered out how to make stargates themselfs ..one would think with a them trips and brains and even "accidental" stranding on a "stargate making" factory ship that the culmination of the series would be that humans would become the new gate builders and seeders. but no ... funny con...
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[22:23:56] <exec> 08└─ThisIsWhyEveryBeastInOzHasABadAttitude-1
[22:23:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Research Finds Earth's Oldest-Known Asteroid Strike Linked to `Big Thaw' - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:57] <exec> 08└─UStrikeForTheFutureIStruckForThePast
[22:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Research Finds Earth's Oldest-Known Asteroid Strike Linked to `Big Thaw' - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:23:59] <exec> 08└─on a second thought, it is preferable IStrike4GlobalWarming
[22:24:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 869 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:12] <exec> 08└─Their point was that the employees didn't have to bring bags to work with them, therefore Apple's allowing them to bring their bags was of benefit and convenience to the employees and it was an costly to the company to have a manager immediately available for bag searches. Therefore the employees we...
[22:24:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:20] <exec> 08└─What's really messed up is that they are treating their employees like criminals and searching them routinely. If I was ever asked to let management comb through my belongings before I leave, I would let them know that the only other check I will ever get from them is my final paycheck.
[22:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:22] <exec> 08└─Different court and Ca state law verses the Federal policy of "throw 'em to the wolves". Also, Ca's courts haven't been stacked by cheap labor conservatives the way the federal courts have been. The idea that if you're not free to leave, you're on the clock seems quite obvious to anyone who has EVER...
[22:24:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:24] <exec> 08└─If they wear their uniforms in an unsupervised situation they might hold wear them wrong.
[22:24:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:26] <exec> 08└─Helpful fellow zombie: rolls them back to you.
[22:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:45] <exec> 08└─Actually the bible doesn't tell how long it took to create the Earth. All it tells about it is: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Everything else happened afterwards.
[22:24:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:24:46] <exec> 08└─make me think they interviewed God.
[22:25:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 1511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:07] <exec> 08└─Steve Jobs insistence on a 128 K Mac only didn't last long. That was an ego thing. Jobs originally wanted to limit it to 64 K so he should show how much better 'his' machine was than 'woz' Apple II. Reality set in. Developers said more memory is strictly necessary. So the 512 K "fat" mac was born. T...
[22:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03dwilson [2599] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Initial Experiments with the Loongson Pi 2K - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:08] <exec> 08└─---- WARNING! offtopic below ---- By the way, has anybody tried obtaining the Raspberry Pi accelerator license keys? Do they make any noticeable performance improvements? Video playback is already smooth in the non-accelerated system, but the Kodi menu rendering is pretty slow/laggy. I don't mind th...
[22:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06'One More Episode, Please?' Why We Can't Stop Binge-Watching on Netflix - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:31] <exec> 08└─humans would become the new gate builders and seeders. but no ...
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[23:24:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06New Research Finds Earth's Oldest-Known Asteroid Strike Linked to `Big Thaw' - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:05] <exec> 08└─Calculations indicated that an impact into an ice-covered continent could have sent half a trillion tons of water vapour – an important greenhouse gas – into the atmosphere. This finding raises the question whether this impact may have tipped the scales enough to end glacial conditions.
[23:24:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:30] <exec> 08└─Thank you. That does make sense. I don't agree with it, but I can understand the basis of their argument.
[23:24:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Must Pay Store Employees for Bag-Search Time, Court Rules - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:31] <exec> 08└─Make the shirts reverse to a MS shirt. That should fix the problem.
[23:24:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:53] <exec> 08└─Robert V. Gentry has done interesting research on the matter and has interesting arguments. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It's been years since I've actually read this in depth and I don't remember much of it by now but I found the argument to be interesting and I re...
[23:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Earth Created in Only 5 Million Years - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:55] <exec> 08└─(the same poster, just wanted to add some things but I got interrupted). (to be added to the fourth paragraph) Some of arguments that young earth creationists come up with to fit the evidence within their model can be quite hilarious (that's not to say that I am or am not a young earth creationist,...
[23:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ocean Infinity: Exploration Company Goes for Robot Boats at Scale - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:51] <exec> 08└─Don't look now but there's one right behind yoiu.
[23:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With MWC Barcelona 2020 Canceled, Most New Android Phones Face a Tough Debut - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:19] <exec> 08└─It's only in the last 3 centuries that anyone even bothered to standardize spelling. Just look at Shakespeare - he spelled his name at least 6 different ways. I liked the approach in Clipper - the keyword COLOUR and COLOR were both fine. I used to make #define for allowing two different spellings f...
[23:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Andy Rubin's Smartphone Startup, Essential, is Dead - 1553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:22] <exec> 08└─They FIRED Peter Bright's sicko PEDO in jail ass and here's your proof moron https://www.dailydot.com [dailydot.com] and as far as "journalists" (losers) go? Let's quote a REAL WRITER (Mark Twain/Samuel Clemens) "... public opinion of a nation is cr...
[23:28:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Windows 10 KB4532693 Update Bug Hides User Data, Loads Wrong Profile - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:43] <exec> 08└─"We won't tell you which files are executable, but if you click one, it's YOUR fault", OH wait, they already did that one.
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