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[00:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:13] <exec> 08└─Because Soylent editors sure can't...
[00:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:14] <exec> 08└─Can Soylent editors be replaced with Artificial Stupidity?
[00:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:16] <exec> 08└─http://smbc-comics.com/comic/ai-4 [smbc-comics.com]
[00:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:19] <exec> 08└─by c0lo (156) I mean, with the cheap means of creation, do the creation act need further support "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts"? Shouldn't actually the question be "If AI can create, do we need to protect it at all?" (grin)
[00:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:30] <exec> 08└─Pot calling kettle blsck. [...] Yeah, like data sets aren't manufactured in the USA. I'm looking at you, FCC.
[00:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:32] <exec> 08└─Carry on then [youtube.com].
[00:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:51] <exec> 08└─In other words, if they're so concerned, why don't they do something about it instead of submitting?
[00:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:53] <exec> 08└─Wyden stated on the Senate floor that "The Patriot Act was passed a decade ago during a period of understandable fear. Now is the time to revisit this, revisit it and ensure that a better job is done of striking that balance between fighting terror and protecting individual liberty."
[00:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:55] <exec> 08└─No pain no gain. Just saying. On a more practical note, withdrawal of cooperation works wonders. One can start with depositing sanitary products into toilets and take it from there. The bottom line is not to cooperate with any authorities in any form - never do what they ask and always do what they...
[00:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:18] <exec> 08└─You're assuming that much of the value of the data isn't in the delta between the past backup and the current state. This isn't always true.
[00:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 1188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:20] <exec> 08└─The important details [github.com]: The full list of preconditions Nginx + php-fpm, location ~ [^/]\.php(/|$) must be forwarded to php-fpm (maybe the regexp can be stricter, see #1).There must be a PATH_INFO variable assignment via statement fastcgi_param PATH_INFO $fastcgi_path_info;. Also SCRIPT_F...
[00:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:22] <exec> 08└─IOW amateurs will fuck it up.
[00:28:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pre-Installed Apps on Low-End Android Phones are Full of Security Holes - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:40] <exec> 08└─I didn't need to root my phone to delete Facebook.
[00:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:35] <exec> 08└─The rise of rent-seeking in the US economy is "something for nothing" in ways no socialist ever dreamed of. Let's not be selectively blind here: bad economics is bad economics, whether collectivist or (ostensibly) free-market.
[00:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:37] <exec> 08└─If you think somebody is going to randomly volunteer to go out in the middle of the night in dirty weather to repair a broken sewer main out of the goodness of his heart, then you are a fantasist.
[00:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 2403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:39] <exec> 08└─You are absolutely correct that "to each..." seems to remove the economic incentives to strive. There are other kinds of incentives but I won't argue that point, I have a feeling that, on the balance, you're correct, and society needs those material incentives to prosper. But what you are imagining...
[00:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 1454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:41] <exec> 08└─The Puritans didn't exist in Roman times. Just saying. As for UBI, one of the first experiments was done in Canada, the improvement in quality of life, the ability to get more education, etc, is well documented. However, extra education isn't the problem when economies have jobless recoveries, and t...
[00:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:43] <exec> 08└─Communism isn't socialism, get over your ignorance. Canada is a socialist country - public Medicare for all citizens, no copay or deductibles. Quebec has a public pharmacare program for anyone who doesn't have private drug coverage. Other provinces have some more limited version. That doesn't make C...
[00:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:45] <exec> 08└─Depends. A good run-flavoured pudding literally has the proof in the pudding. Just saying. And the higher the proof, the better. Just keep away from open flames.
[00:31:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study: There May be No Such Thing as Objective Reality - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:31:25] <exec> 08└─I don't see any concept of cause in those equations, nor anything useful that has come from examining whether the second law of thermodynamics explains "cause and effect" or not.
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[01:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:19] <exec> 08└─Artificial stupidity is a learned attribute. I learned that in stupidity class 101, but failed the class with an F.
[01:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:20] <exec> 08└─The biggest fucking question is how will that AI feel about us saying no? There are two situations here: 1) The AI is not sentient, has no emotions, and is creating useful content for the rest of us. Those discussing whether or not the AI owns it are very similar to those who pour fake tea into cups...
[01:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:22] <exec> 08└─In my view there should be a whole lot less copyright than there is now, but then my views are probably considered a bit extreme as far as Intellectual Property laws go. I am undecided about Patents, but I think Copyrights should be no longer than 10 years, then should be released to the public dom...
[01:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:25] <exec> 08└─3) The AI is subsentient, but has just enough smarts to launch nukes up your ass if you piss it off in ways you can't comprehend, because lazy people fed all their data into a machine learning algorithm that grew into an autonomous Lovecraftian abomination.
[01:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 1265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:27] <exec> 08└─Of the misuse of the term "Artificial Intelligence." When most people hear "AI" they're thinking about something like HAL9000 or the Terminator. Those don't actually exist. And won't for a very long time, if ever. That type of AI is more properly termed "Artificial General Intelligence" or "Strong A...
[01:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:41] <exec> 08└─Good people are saved. Bad people die. What is not to like here? Get over the fact that this sensible logic is weird by western standards. We have organ shortages right here in the USA. We have numerous bad people staying alive, while numerous good people suffer and die. The fix is obvious.
[01:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:42] <exec> 08└─The fix you propose is not so simple because US prisoners are mostly African-American while those needing organ transplants are white, so the risk of organ rejection is very high. Whereas in China, everyone looks the same and their parts are therefore interchangeable.
[01:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 2052 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:04] <exec> 08└─Hello! I am a hacker who has access to your operating system. I also have full access to your account. I've been watching you for a few months now. The fact is that you were infected with malware through an adult site that you visited. If you are not familiar with this, I will explain. Trojan Virus...
[01:28:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:31] <exec> 08└─For the experienced professional, it is indeed trivial. Care to speculate on the outcome of winging it and performing surgery on your dog, vs taking him to the vet?
[01:28:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:33] <exec> 08└─Personal/home installation of Nextcloud is a pretty common use case. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the vast majority of installations of the community version.
[01:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pre-Installed Apps on Low-End Android Phones are Full of Security Holes - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:52] <exec> 08└─I fail to see your point. 3 phones ago I was annoyed FB was taking up space that was advertised as mine. Last phone I tried to delete it and couldn't. Fast forward to a cat pushing a phone from a stack of library books into a cuppa tea, and me focusing on the cat instead of the phone. Last phone was...
[01:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06One of CRISPR’s Inventors Calls for Controls on Gene-Editing Technology - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:29:24] <exec> 08└─She's a Berkeley bitch, so she's fine with letting bums shit and piss in public for humanitarian reasons, she voted for Hillary, and she's also totally fine with beating up people who believe in free speech and participates in Antifa marches afterwards retreating to her hilltop home in Clairmont or...
[01:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:30:55] <exec> 08└─Civilizations grow more and more complex, in the sense of rules, regulations, bureaucracy, overhead and cruft. Eventually a point is reached where it is more efficient to collapse the whole edifice, despite the resulting chaos. This is the basic theme. How it is triggered and plays out has many vari...
[01:32:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Virgin Galactic Begins ‘Astronaut Readiness Program’ for First Paying Customers - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:05] <exec> 08└─Ban rich people. Starting January 2021.
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[02:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:49] <exec> 08└─Cars have become so safe that it is rare to die in an auto accident. That used to be the best source of donated organs: perfectly healthy young people who arrive badly injured at the hospital and once there decline to the point the medical butchers can slice them open one second after they are decla...
[02:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:50] <exec> 08└─Plus I don't need no AIDS. Ain't nobody got time for that!
[02:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:52] <exec> 08└─Good people are saved. Bad people die. What is not to like here?
[02:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:15] <exec> 08└─The rest of your paragraph is redundant
[02:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:16] <exec> 08└─Relax...its a fake. Besides, the first hacker he sends it to will open the document source, find what the tracker points to, trace that, and see whose interested in the tracking info. Some prankster will be hung up by the balls, and some investigator will get his kudos. It's a sport these days. Like...
[02:30:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 1117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:09] <exec> 08└─Let's assume that this technique can and does work. The problem will become the old classic: "Garbage in, garbage out". Which inputs do you provide. It's well known that the winners write the history books. Plus, in our own time, you can see how those history books have changed. If I go back to my p...
[02:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:09] <exec> 08└─No, Bill Gates is the Emperor, Steve Jobs was the Mule. Richard Stallman is Hari Seldon. Silicon Valley is Trantor. USA is the Empire. FSF is the First Foundation.
[02:31:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study: There May be No Such Thing as Objective Reality - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:50] <exec> 08└─What do you call an alt-right physicist? *SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) Wigner's Fren
[02:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study: There May be No Such Thing as Objective Reality - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:51] <exec> 08└─I think we need a new mod option. How about -1 Ad-Hominem ?
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[03:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:13] <exec> 08└─You're wrong.
[03:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kymation [1047] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:14] <exec> 08└─Every bit of code that has ever been written follows the rules of mathematical logic. That's why every modern language has the same basic functionality: it's merely expressing the rules of mathematics in a usable form. Mathematics has never been copyrightable and never should be. Therefore, all comp...
[03:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:16] <exec> 08└─We have to eliminate all those copyright extensions that make it almost indefinite. Bring it back to the original 28 years absolute max
[03:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:18] <exec> 08└─2. Protocols are underdeveloped. One of the huge arguments made by Google supporters is that API copyright will break protocols. Yes they will. This is a good thing.
[03:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US-CERT Warns of Remotely Exploitable Bugs in Medical Devices - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:26] <exec> 08└─https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/11/13/us-cert-warns-of-critical-flaws-in-medtronic-equipment/ [sophos.com]
[03:27:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 1265 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:40] <exec> 08└─Of the misuse of the term "Artificial Intelligence." When most people hear "AI" they're thinking about something like HAL9000 or the Terminator. Those don't actually exist. And won't for a very long time, if ever. That type of AI is more properly termed "Artificial General Intelligence" or "Strong A...
[03:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:42] <exec> 08└─(I can't stop noting that, even with the benefit of copyright, the act of creating originals seems to be hard) Perhaps there's a method to this madness? Like, "repetitio mater studiorum"... and this is the stage of building the training set for the S/N editorial AI? If so, magister aristarchus needs...
[03:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:44] <exec> 08└─by jb (338) Yet another question deals with possible copyright infringements by an AI. A far more pertinent question would be can the author of an AI be held legally liable for the AI lodging a fraudulent DMCA (or equivalent in other jurisdictions) take-down notice? If not, why not? Or if so, where...
[03:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:46] <exec> 08└─This [soylentnews.org] is an important question that didn't get any answer last time. And thus, I still don't know what "panishing" is. (hint: have mod point to waste on "+Informative/Funny" mods).
[03:28:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:29] <exec> 08└─In other words, if they're so concerned, why don't they do something about it instead of submitting?
[03:28:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:30] <exec> 08└─One can start with depositing sanitary products into toilets and take it from there.
[03:28:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:32] <exec> 08└─The bottom line is not to cooperate with any authorities in any form - never do what they ask and always do what they don't like. The goal would be to crash the current way of life - make it impossible to keep.
[03:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03SDRefugee [4477] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:00] <exec> 08└─I run a small NextCloud install for family/friends, but use Apache2 vs Nginx. I read the whole article and it *appears* that this ransomware is only able to attack NextCloud when Nginx/php-fpm is in use. Am I correct in assuming this is the case?
[03:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:01] <exec> 08└─They [periodic full backups] are extremely difficult to manage
[03:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 2748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:25] <exec> 08└─Pardon the rant, but the Puritans were an outcast sect who voluntarily emigrated (as opposed to the Aussies who involuntarily emigrated), and through a random stroke of luck ended up in the most developed country least destroyed by World War II. Even though they abhor seeing others "not work hard" t...
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[04:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1096 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:15] <exec> 08└─1) Oh do fuck off and die. Even source code should not be copyrightable, much less fucking APIs. Copyright was meant for works of art not functional creations. That's what patents are for. 2) Yeah, all this shit working together nonsense is just a fad. Let's go back to the days where nobody could ta...
[04:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:17] <exec> 08└─Are you trying to get hired [soylentnews.org] by Annette Hurst [techdirt.com]?
[04:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:19] <exec> 08└─Copyright was meant for works of art not functional creations.
[04:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:21] <exec> 08└─Even were I to agree with your assertions, I would not accept that it was reasonable to change the "easement" after decades of public accessibility. Of course, I don't agree. Functions material is not supposed to be copyrightable. At most I would accept patenting the order in which the interfaces we...
[04:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:23] <exec> 08└─Yup, it'd be like asking for copyright on a typewriter. Even brilliantly designed tools are still only tools.
[04:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:26] <exec> 08└─I agree as long as I get copyright ownership over all of the RFC Internet protocols. Shouldn't be a problem, right, since it "will preserve the market space of forward compatibility".
[04:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:08] <exec> 08└─Is he in China? If not then how will he be targeted. Stop trying to police the planet numb-nuts. The thing is average person does not give a fuck whether this happens or not, nor should they.
[04:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:09] <exec> 08└─Is he in China? If not then how will he be targeted
[04:28:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 262 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:17] <exec> 08└─Is that we didn't burn down madison avenue and the whole damned national advertising machine when they first started doing research into how best to manipulate us all psychologically. We're not a decade overdue on dealing with this shit, we're a century overdue.
[04:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study: There May be No Such Thing as Objective Reality - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:32:12] <exec> 08└─You reckon there will be any comments that don't get modded that if we add it?
[04:32:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study: There May be No Such Thing as Objective Reality - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:32:13] <exec> 08└─The older I get, the less it takes to qualify for "at a distance".
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[05:27:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03EJ [2452] 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 13 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:19] <exec> 08└─You're wrong.
[05:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:30] <exec> 08└─Here are my reasons: 1. Good. There shouldn’t be. If you knew anything about Oracle’s algorithmic copyright claims, the why of this would be obvious to you. 2. They’re right and you are wrong, by definition. 3. You are losing all credibility because this is a ludicrous conflation of concepts....
[05:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:31] <exec> 08└─1. poor support for software copyrights at the U.S. Copyright Office
[05:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:33] <exec> 08└─Uh by your own logic you would be in violation of many calls to functions yourself. printf("You would basically have to re-write everything you have.\n"); I used printf as an example here. That thing is everywhere. Implemented thousands of times in many different ways. Code copyright is a fairly *ne...
[05:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:59] <exec> 08└─As soon as that AI can prove itself to be a competent person able to enter contracts, in court.
[05:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Boeing Received 'Unnecessary' Contract Boost for Astronaut Capsule, Watchdog Says - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:30] <exec> 08└─The pigs have yet to achieve orbit, so it is pigs hanging around the launch pad.
[05:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Boeing Received 'Unnecessary' Contract Boost for Astronaut Capsule, Watchdog Says - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:31] <exec> 08└─The Boeing Starliner is being built in Decatur, Alabama. NASA's SLS is being built in Huntsville, Alabama. Senator Richard Shelby is the head of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Guess which state he's from.
[05:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:31:43] <exec> 08└─I partly blame copy protection laws for allowing this. If it weren't for such ridiculous copy protection extensions it would be easier for you to reference these history books and for us to make comparisons between prior books and current ones as these older books would be in the public domain and w...
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[06:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:18] <exec> 08└─"contributed to an important open source software project that is now stored in the arctic vault for safe keeping"
[06:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:20] <exec> 08└─Literally lying on ice.
[06:27:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1096 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:30] <exec> 08└─1) Oh do fuck off and die. Even source code should not be copyrightable, much less fucking APIs. Copyright was meant for works of art not functional creations. That's what patents are for. 2) Yeah, all this shit working together nonsense is just a fad. Let's go back to the days where nobody could ta...
[06:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:40] <exec> 08└─Absolute nonsense. If you want to copyright your software it's easy, you print it and ship them a copy of the book. You should send a few copies to the Library of Congress as well, though it's unfortunately no longer required.
[06:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:07] <exec> 08└─We have quantum computers becoming commercially available, I wouldn't bet your farm that someone hasn't built one capable of true AI.
[06:28:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 1479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:29] <exec> 08└─It's easy to give up and let the Chinese trolls and naysayers spew their sewage about "oh the USA is just as bad", and "it's saving good people!". Well, fuck that. I want to talk to the Chinese shills. I know you almost certainly don't believe in a god, I don't either. I have good reason to believe...
[06:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:29:28] <exec> 08└─Very well put, but such is the situation for pretty much any aspect of system administration. I had somehow fallen into that field, and it took luck to finally shift over to a development job.
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[07:27:18] <exec> 08└─Would there not be inactive projects worth keeping for prosperity? …on having all active public repositories stored by February 2020.
[07:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:20] <exec> 08└─Not to mention all the spam and deleted projects.
[07:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:42] <exec> 08└─One major point in the study of literature is essentially boiling literary works, great and not so great into "API"s. TFA argues there can be only one member of a genre. Just one murder mystery, one horse opera, one romance novel, etc. (note, no space operas at all since they are basically horse ope...
[07:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:43] <exec> 08└─Well, that went well. [youtube.com] (Notice: quote from Cap't Malcolm Reynolds, which should be parsed as Commander Fox, but in the episode wherein a buxom wench kiss-drugs the Captain, no, wait, this is later when she comes back, and so the playing the con on the con-artist is all the more sweeter,...
[07:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 2153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:45] <exec> 08└─Re: "Like or not, the copyright office is almost universally unwilling to review file formats that are aren't developed by Microsoft." Do you have evidence for this? I know MS are big jerks, but they are not the only big jerks. Re: "API copyrights provides an abbreviated basis for for dealing with t...
[07:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:47] <exec> 08└─Copyrighting an API is like copyrighting the address of the grocery store and thereby disallowing anyone from driving there. (You may notice that it's also entirely self-defeating.) P.S. Header files deserve to not exist, as languages better than C don't even need them. All those megabytes of includ...
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[07:32:52] <exec> 08└─Occam's razor is a valuable tool, no doubt. But it makes a great deal of difference if you know more. For example, being grown and used to living in a profoundly fsck'ed society like Ukrainian one. Owner of the whole DDOS infrastructure at 20?? Probably no, but not for sure. Owner of the wholesale b...
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[08:27:30] <exec> 08└─Every bit of code that has ever been written follows the rules of mathematical logic. That's why every modern language has the same basic functionality: it's merely expressing the rules of mathematics in a usable form. Mathematics has never been copyrightable and never should be. Therefore, all comp...
[08:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:48] <exec> 08└─What a beatiful, distopic world of dwarfs crouched to look at their navel... «nanos gigantum humeris insidentes» https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] CYA
[08:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:17] <exec> 08└─I think there is grounds for a type of protective copyright that lasts the life of an author. Not for everything but, for example, writers of series should be able to protect their universe from intruders. Maybe separate the right to create derivative works from the right to control copies. After te...
[08:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:18] <exec> 08└─I have a terrible feeing of déjà vu.
[08:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Laws Against Child Sexual Abuse Imagery Can Make It Harder to Detect - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:22] <exec> 08└─> Why would I put the effort in to satisfy my curiosity? IFYPFY
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[09:27:19] <exec> 08└─> Eaves makes transmission safer by breaking electrical distribution into packets; Yup, 150 packets a second (180 in the USA), we already do that. In order to ensure there's no nett loss of electricity in the system, those 180 packets are also sent back 150 times a second. We call it "AC".
[09:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:56] <exec> 08└─Your argument is excessively reductive, by ignoring emergent properties. Physics is perfectly adequately modelled with just maths, chemistry actually is just physics, biochemistry actually is just chemistry, biology actually is just biochemistry, psychology actually is just biology, psychiatry actua...
[09:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 2714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:57] <exec> 08└─I'm a mathematician and a computer scientist. You're wrong. The facts of maths may well be protected, but copyright is about expression. If I write a maths book, you can't just copy it word for word and sell it or give it away. Same for a computer program. Everyone can write an A* algorithm but YOUR...
[09:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:59] <exec> 08└─I'm narked that when I raised exactly the same point as your initial #1 about 2 months ago, I got dogpiled. However, whoever is prepared to start the discussion in those terms achieves what I wanted to achieve, so all is good. But, in order to throw some splashy shit under the wheels of common-sense...
[09:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:02] <exec> 08└─> Header files deserve to not exist, as languages better than C don't even need them. Strange - I consider those to be languages worse than C. Could it be that you're just expressing personal preferences, rather than facts?
[09:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:04] <exec> 08└─Without doubt the best frist piste ever! Bravo, EJ!
[09:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:55] <exec> 08└─One thing's for sure. People on reddit will say "this isn't really communism". People there with a BA in Useless Studies will insist that "the horse shoe theory is bunk" also, despite communists literally loading people on trains and carting them away nazi style. People like that are why I deleted m...
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[10:28:34] <exec> 08└─So you're saying there should be a long copyright on the API, the method of invoking the characters and places in the author's world, but a short copyright on the author's implementations?
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[10:28:35] <exec> 08└─That condition never applied to humans, why should it apply to anything else?
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[11:27:19] <exec> 08└─It's ok kids. We can now all eat out of our collective dump. Any bets that this will turn out about as good for our health as asbestos?
[11:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Prey-Size Plastics Are Invading Larval Fish Nurseries - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:20] <exec> 08└─There's nothing healthier than a good lawsuit.
[11:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Research Reveals New State Of Matter: A Cooper Pair Metal - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:28] <exec> 08└─Making it into transistors.
[11:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:36] <exec> 08└─I can't wait to have more IT related malfunctions on my grid, which already happened when forced to transition to 'smart' meters, instead of the dumb ones which seemed to report stuff more honestly. >they converted the military’s fleet of B2 bombers to use lithium ion batteries. That's a good idea...
[11:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:28:17] <exec> 08└─I'm narked ...
[11:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:28:18] <exec> 08└─Your argument is excessively reductive...
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[12:27:34] <exec> 08└─Eaves makes transmission safer by breaking electrical distribution into packets; those packets are sent down transmission lines to ensure that there are not faults. If there’s a break in the line, the equipment stops transmitting energy.
[12:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:36] <exec> 08└─* Subject to 100kWh monthly cap, after which we may throttle your electricity to 3V to ensure adequate access for all of our customers.
[12:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:38] <exec> 08└─hmmm making existing wireing more flexible? maybe if the insulation of the existing wireing were (certified) better then what is needed, say for a single phase wire using 380 volt insulation one could and a "smart transformer" to "up" the voltage going in and then back down on the other "end" smart...
[12:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:28:20] <exec> 08└─You must've not said it with as much class and style. Patents are all fine and good for functional stuff (well, they 're another discussion anyway). Copyright is not.
[12:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:28:22] <exec> 08└─Meh, I can't think up a decent "I swear by my pretty floral bonnet" reply before at least one cup of coffee's in my blood system.
[12:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:28:54] <exec> 08└─someone made the a.i.? a.i.s are digital? if it can "feed" itself, walk about, especially into the patent office and make a claim by itself ... then probably "yes".
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[13:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:16] <exec> 08└─Take away legal enforcement of religious dietary laws like Kosher, and its human nature that a zillion people will spring to action demanding to be enslaved by new imaginary dietary purity laws. Honestly its the same thing with speech and lifestyle issues. Marriage, higher ed, new urbanism... A smal...
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[13:27:17] <exec> 08└─Leave the crazies alone. Do not talk to them, do not make eye contact, DO NOT TRY TO SELL TO THEM!
[13:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:19] <exec> 08└─Just make them pay for it. More food preparation space? More cooking space? More workers/time to clean the more equipment after use? Sure, if you're willing to pay for it, someone'll be willing to supply it, that's how a free market works. Your moldburger now costs $50, but that's what you asked for...
[13:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Charged Over Crypto Theft Via SIM Swapping, Death Threats - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:27] <exec> 08└─eight counts of wire fraud, one count of computer fraud and abuse, and one count of aggravated identity theft
[13:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:51] <exec> 08└─LOL I think people are moderating you "disagree" because they don't know about 3phase power. "doesn't this dude know about 60 Hurts, LOL?" An ex coworker went into the electrical distribution industry and the journalist summary makes it sound like they just invented truly ancient monitoring gear yes...
[13:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:53] <exec> 08└─Now, ok, sometimes due to line faults the leccy goes where it ain't supposed to
[13:28:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:37] <exec> 08└─you cannot copyright digital media. as a scientist you know that a computer onky wirks because it processes data and to do that it needs to make (internal) copies. it is a copy machine. next: one should not be able to copyright data/information that helps humans understand the world better and thus...
[13:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:38] <exec> 08└─Who owns the copyright of 'hello world'? In every language there are just so many ways to write it (sure there are countless ways to obfuscate/make it your own but using the most basic cout or printf in main, there's not that many)
[13:28:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:40] <exec> 08└─We would have hundreds of islands of mostly sorta the same software that basically did not do what we want. We have been there already. We called it the 80s.
[13:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of China's Deceased Organ Donation Data Casts Doubt on Organ Transplant Reform - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:35] <exec> 08└─If you're genuinely interested in having some sort of a discussion with people who disagree with you, it might behoove you to not start out by preemptively labeling them all shills, wishing death upon them, and then further adding in a retrofitted 'Death to Imperalists' tagline. Just a thought.
[13:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:00] <exec> 08└─Didn't invent sarcasm with the declaration of independence or whatever, I'm sure they did not operate under a delusion of "approaching an objective truth"
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[14:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:21] <exec> 08└─I also have to guess what your position is on this lawsuit. You've gone on about enslavement, and about food, but this is about someone suit because they believe 'advertised' != 'delivered' product. I frankly think the whole super-veg thing is nuts, but at the same time, if someone advertises someth...
[14:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:22] <exec> 08└─I guess I figured that the things would go through the same broiler (as they only had that, the friers and the microwave to cook with). I guess I never considered that other people wouldn't know... That said, Corporate had lawyers that should have known.
[14:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:25] <exec> 08└─Vegans are extremists, and they display all the classic signs of extremism: Absolutism, black and white vision of the world, excessive emotionality, irrationalism, logically inconsistant beliefs and behaviors. They strongly oppose all forms of animal exploitation, yet 99% of them own pets, which is...
[14:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:09] <exec> 08└─So now is the time to put your earth-shattering Hello World program on GitHub, so that future generations can see your awesomeness! :-)
[14:28:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 135 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:18] <exec> 08└─We have to eliminate all those copyright extensions that make it almost indefinite. Bring it back to the original 28 years absolute max
[14:28:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 2141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:48] <exec> 08└─You make an interesting argument, Anonymous Coward. I think it deserves to be discussed on its merits. But that does not mean that your concept of a protectable API has anything to do with existing copyright law. Copyright law was designed to protect artistic expression. It is needed to ensure that...
[14:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 4238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:49] <exec> 08└─Everything is mathematics - for a given definition of "mathematics", "everything" and "is". "Software is Mathematics" is, at best, a non-falsifiable claim: Ask N mathematicians to define mathematics and you'll get e^(iN) definitions. You can turn an image of Mickey Mouse into the mathematical descri...
[14:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:22] <exec> 08└─We don't have that. What we have should more properly be termed "Expert Systems."
[14:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pre-Installed Apps on Low-End Android Phones are Full of Security Holes - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:04] <exec> 08└─Are they hiring lol I feel the need, the need for auditing!
[14:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:14] <exec> 08└─My kid's high school history fair project is about declarations of rights in the U.S. - starting with "All men are created equal" in 1776, "ex-slaves too" 90 years later. "...and women can vote" ~50 years after that, now, nearly 100 years after that we seem ready to declare women equal to men under...
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[15:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:14] <exec> 08└─And if so, what is the general impression?
[15:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:16] <exec> 08└─It's not without reason to believe a hacker with temporary non-elevated control of a server couldn't successfully follow the automated process as part of an intrusion. Then you could effectively MITM that server for years, and no one would know about it.
[15:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:18] <exec> 08└─In (most?) modern browsers, you can click on the padlock and get all kinds of details, including (fairly prominently, I think) the name of the CA which issued the certificate. On this site, Let's Encrypt.
[15:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:26] <exec> 08└─I.e. "because you can get away with it"
[15:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:38] <exec> 08└─Chicken fries get cooked in the same fryer as regular fries ... I'm pretty sure.
[15:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:39] <exec> 08└─Bug parts in the food. Supposedly, prevalent enough that it's a significant protein source for people in the US.
[15:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:42] <exec> 08└─What makes you think that Burger King isn't delivering? Vegan doesn't mean absolutely no trace of animal parts in food. I think it'd be educational for the defense to calculate how much bug protein the plaintiff consumes in a year and determine how much greater that is than protein transfer from coo...
[15:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:44] <exec> 08└─I wondered if the veggie burger was cooked side-by-side with real meat. But, I didn't care enough to ask. Still don't, really. You bought a burger, and you got a little beef flavoring with it? Cool. Sounds like an added benefit to me. But - people allergic to peanuts - to seafood - eggs, milk, or d...
[15:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:46] <exec> 08└─VERY nice tarring you did there. Where are your feathers? No, not all vegans are extremists. But then again, you've already admitted you wanted to be lumped into a category where you are no smarter than a wolf or bear, so I guess that's understandable.
[15:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Charged Over Crypto Theft Via SIM Swapping, Death Threats - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:55] <exec> 08└─As usual, the telco has no liability in this case? The crooks couldn't have stolen anything, if the telco hadn't cooperated. Telcos have deep pockets, make them replace all the stolen money!
[15:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Charged Over Crypto Theft Via SIM Swapping, Death Threats - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:57] <exec> 08└─You need to have TFA! You must give us your cell phone number! It is for your protection!!1!
[15:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:36] <exec> 08└─Inactive projects may still be used, it could be due to the project being mature so it no longer needs frequent updates, but people may still be using it. Inactive projects also should be preserved for a historical interest. It is also often the case that after the original author has stopped workin...
[15:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:18] <exec> 08└─" But in service to the needs of artistic expression, copyright law allows for existing ideas to be expressed in new ways. Otherwise, a copyright on Sherlock Holmes would pre-empt any other detective stories." So, consider how Harry Potter fits into this. The author created 2 things, the story/plot...
[15:29:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:19] <exec> 08└─"I don't know how a software can escape the clause of "method of operation" (of a computer)." By that logic an auto repair manual would also not be copyrightable.
[15:29:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:21] <exec> 08└─"I used printf as an example here." printf is a single function. An API an a compendium of functions. You cannot copyright the world "printf" (though you can trademark it). But you can copyright for example, the documentation that defines all the built in functions of a language. And if you wrote t...
[15:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:23] <exec> 08└─How does this get a +5 informative.
[15:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:25] <exec> 08└─"Mathematics has never been copyrightable " Perhaps, but "expressing the rules of mathematics in a usable form." is. You can copyright a compendium of mathematical functions, as in the case of a school textbook. -OP Author
[15:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 1208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:51] <exec> 08└─At least in modern times I don't see how people don't see a connection between increasingly bad behavior and the rise of an ever more effeminate, sedate, and unhealthy society. Today any form of resistance is pretty much out of the question unless it's a government, corporate, and media approved #re...
[15:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:52] <exec> 08└─Well said, you and anyone else who likes this comment might like my memes. https://jmichaelhudson.net [jmichaelhudson.net]
[15:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:25] <exec> 08└─You're right. Nginx + NC + Certain configuration parameters including some that were not the recommanded defaults as per the Nextcoud server admin documentation but that are widespread due to people copy/pasting configuration items from obsolete exemple configurations.
[15:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:26] <exec> 08└─It's true, but for individual users' important files, you're often talking about a few small changes to a word document or excel sheet over 24 hours. If programmers ever lose work, it's their own fault for not committing often enough.
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[16:27:15] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 500 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:15] <exec> 08└─First you would need to have control to serve pages on port 80. Lets assume you get that, LE Certificates are only valid for 90 days, so MITMing that server for "years" wouldn't be possible. You could do exactly the same with a certificate from elsewhere, except those certificates do last years (2 y...
[16:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:16] <exec> 08└─Is this what SN uses? And if so, what is the general impression?
[16:27:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 39 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:24] <exec> 08└─I.e. "because you can get away with it"
[16:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:26] <exec> 08└─Elon Musk is whipping your fat corporate ASSES!!
[16:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:44] <exec> 08└─Is there such a thing as allergy to beef?
[16:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:45] <exec> 08└─More food preparation space? More cooking space? More workers/time to clean the more equipment after use? Sure, if you're willing to pay for it, someone'll be willing to supply it, that's how a free market works. Your moldburger now costs $50, but that's what you asked for.
[16:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:47] <exec> 08└─I would have thought that as long as you clean the grill, or keep a designated space for the veggie patties, that would have been sufficient. Not only that, it seems odd that this person is targeting only BK. Literally any and every restaurant of all kinds, unless explicitly designed to be vegan, is...
[16:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:50] <exec> 08└─Agreed. I cannot eat wheat. I will occasionally pay $20 for a gluten free sub at Jersey Mike's, where they wipe everything down and take considerable care to avoid cross-contamination.
[16:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03oumuamua [8401] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:52] <exec> 08└─complete turn around from 2000 https://www.genolve.com [genolve.com]
[16:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:54] <exec> 08└─Old crazy cult goes out of fashion, crazies go and invent a dozen new crazier ones.
[16:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:56] <exec> 08└─Dust mites go in with air; breathing isn't vegan.
[16:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:58] <exec> 08└─What if the field the crop was grown on was fertilized with animal shit? Heck, what if a bird flew over the field and disposed of such?
[16:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, that are. ALL vegans are skinny jeans wearing, Apple loving, U2 listening, judgemental, preachy morons.
[16:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:03] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, racist VLM trying to bring back cultural acceptance of slavery. Does your depravity know no bounds???
[16:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:39] <exec> 08└─They don't do it for TDR, but they do sometimes transmit PLC data [wikipedia.org] over the transmission lines. We hams recently had to register with an organization before we could operate on two new bands that share PLC freqs.
[16:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:53] <exec> 08└─Do they have to find the film reel where my code is stored and do a splice and then burn that footage?
[16:29:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:39] <exec> 08└─"Fuck off with that kind of thinking" If it is thinking that offends you, then I consider your distemper adequate reward. "protocols are NOT the software" Lawfully speaking, or in an engineering context? From an software engineering perspective, certainly protocols are software. They are a "fixed" f...
[16:29:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:40] <exec> 08└─Oh no no no
[16:29:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:42] <exec> 08└─Totally agree with this. The current term lengths are an incursion into the 13th amendment, and represent real fascism. And I mean that from an economics perspective rather than programming perspective. -OP Author
[16:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:44] <exec> 08└─Very good example. Because the steps involved in carrying out a particular repair job are not copyrightable. 1) Elevate car. 2) Remove oil plug. 3) Allow oil to drain out. 4) Remove Filter 5) Put New Filter On. 6) Restore oil plug. 7) De-elevate car. 8) Fill car with oil. You are more than welcome t...
[16:29:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:47] <exec> 08└─"Do you have evidence for this?" They publish a list. "Dumbing stuff down for judges should not be the end goal, but rather doing things RIGHT should be the end goal." I agree with that, but at some point you have to make decisions about practicality. I just got done refactoring a big block of code...
[16:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:49] <exec> 08└─You are a moron.
[16:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 1690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:51] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your reply, " It is a pretty poor fit, really, because it protects the expression of an idea, completely ignoring the idea's utility" Yep. So the question is then whether an API is an expression that is distinct from the source code itself. And certainly it is, because the API can rema...
[16:29:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:53] <exec> 08└─Not necessary. A work is copyrighted once it's "fixed in a tangible medium." Simply writing software makes it automatically copyrighted (for good or bad).
[16:29:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:55] <exec> 08└─"Copyright was meant for works of art not functional creations." Actually, "art" as used in copyright law was about functional creations (as apposed to pure science), that is, technology. It was never about artistic creations.
[16:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:57] <exec> 08└─I wholeheartedly agree! I see value in copyrighting original creative work for the benefit of the creator for a period of time. But not so long that others can't eventually improve upon it, and definitely not so long as to allow their great grandchildren to benefit from it.
[16:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:59] <exec> 08└─Probably because people have already modded several other posts saying "No, you're categorically, point-by-point wrong" up and still have mod points left over they want to express
[16:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:02] <exec> 08└─Is under current law, which makes the claim that copyright office somehow is less supportive than they should be even more laughable. Shouldn't be, however.
[16:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:04] <exec> 08└─I recommend you mosey on down to the auto parts store and check the title pages of the repair manuals.
[16:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:06] <exec> 08└─Actually there are RFC's on protocols that are patented. I've read the submission requirements for the IETF (and previously submitted a draft). They do not distinguish between protocols based on intellectual property ownership. -OP Author
[16:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 1653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:40] <exec> 08└─The counter-example, someone with dementia/alzheimer's. Also, you have to be of a certain age, before you can legally sign a contract without a parent/guardian. You must be competent enough to sign a legal contract. "Artificial intelligence" is more like an idiot savant than a well rounded individua...
[16:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:42] <exec> 08└─There should be a difference between literary and functional works. I was replying to PartTimeZombie's comment that copyright should be 10 years. The 'universe' protection, I think would probably require a new type of right, something applying to an entire corpus. (But it should be traded for a mass...
[16:31:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 1225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:36] <exec> 08└─I have seen evidence I am being tracked when I have no transmitting devices and go to random places, I strongly believe they are putting passive rfid stuff in/on clothing that bounces location data back from people who have been visually linked to that serial. Or something like that, 3d radar imagin...
[16:31:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:37] <exec> 08└─Your pet social theories sound pretty dumb.
[16:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 2282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:39] <exec> 08└─Something harder than anything else - people need to stop hating one another. In my opinion the division in society has been quite intentionally created for the sake of political control. How many people in 2016 voted for Hillary thinking "Yes, this person genuinely stands for what I believe in and...
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[17:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:25] <exec> 08└─DNS admin can set a CAA record to prevent it from happening.
[17:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:26] <exec> 08└─So, if there's a single provider for all this encryption, that means a single entity to be infiltrated/compromised/bullied in order to break all of it.
[17:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 1385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:28] <exec> 08└─Its certainly non-perfect, and belt-and-braces is always better, but if your server (or DNS) gets hacked then you're pretty much fucked anyway. LE's clearly-stated objective is to maximise the use of HTTPS, and automating the process as much as possible is the best way to achieve that (if you're a b...
[17:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:38] <exec> 08└─Well, they don't want to say "The actual price was 89,994,345.99, see this is totally below 90,000,000.00"
[17:27:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 252 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:54] <exec> 08└─VERY nice tarring you did there. Where are your feathers? No, not all vegans are extremists. But then again, you've already admitted you wanted to be lumped into a category where you are no smarter than a wolf or bear, so I guess that's understandable.
[17:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:06] <exec> 08└─Found the regular moron!!
[17:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:07] <exec> 08└─But feathers aren't vegan.
[17:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:09] <exec> 08└─BK doesn't grill their burgers on a flat grill like McDonald's, they use a "flame broiler" which works like the pizza ovens used by the big pizza chains. Burgers get put on a conveyor and sent through the unit. Raw burger goes in one side, cooked burger comes out the other. They would need a separat...
[17:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:12] <exec> 08└─We evil eaters of tasty animals do even know how and why you are losing your marbles. Enjoy: http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]
[17:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:14] <exec> 08└─How dare people eat different food that me! EXTREMISTS!
[17:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:16] <exec> 08└─What about my own FREEDOM to make informed choices about the food I eat. If they advertise something then they damn well better provide it or that's FRAUD. It's up to the courts to decide whether they did, in fact, advertise a completely vegan product. And that's how it's supposed to work...
[17:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 1797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:18] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm allergic to something related to beef. It can't be to beef itself, because I eat and enjoy hamburgers, etc. But I can't wear a leather belt or shoes where the leather touches my skin. Fortunately, shoes are now often plastic and rubber, and I can use suspenders instead of a belt. That said...
[17:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:20] <exec> 08└─How about "There's lots of different people, and they don't all have the same opinion about anything.". You're responding as if "vegan" were a unified whole. It's probably less unified than "soylent news poster".
[17:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:22] <exec> 08└─At the Burger King near me, they have signs that state that the vegetarian patties do get cooked in the same devices as the normal stuff. I didn't think anyone would assume otherwise. I don't recall seeing them advertising it as full vegan. Did they?
[17:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:24] <exec> 08└─FTSFY... Burger King was sued on Monday by a vegan twat who accused the fast-food chain of contaminating its meatless "Impossible" Whoppers by cooking them on the same grills as its traditional meat burgers.
[17:29:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:03] <exec> 08└─My local utility is pioneering something like that [dvigridsolutions.com] for their grid system (and others). Dynamic voltage control for peak demand shaving is one major benefit [dvigridsolutions.com].
[17:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:17] <exec> 08└─Typically, I download a github project,immediately hit a problem, then head to stackoverflow After an apocalypse, Their first problem will be: how to build a computer Next problem: how to generate electricity
[17:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:52] <exec> 08└─I'd bet the farm, six chickens and all rights to my life story that I'll be long dead before anything even approaching "strong AI" exists.
[17:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:53] <exec> 08└─SCOTUS has already bestowed civil rights (And in the case of intellectual property, superior rights) on thin slices of dead tree in a filing cabinet. Why not a brick, a glass of water, some source code, some data, my dick. There it is, I incorporate my dick, and it is therefore exempt from criminal...
[17:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:56] <exec> 08└─No. While expert systems surely still exist, most current AI systems are neural networks. The difference is, with expert systems you still have rules programmed by humans. With neural networks, you essentially fit a generic function with sufficiently many parameters to an example data set, and then...
[17:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:58] <exec> 08└─No. While expert systems surely still exist, most current AI systems are neural networks. The difference is, with expert systems you still have rules programmed by humans. With neural networks, you essentially fit a generic function with sufficiently many parameters to an example data set, and then...
[17:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:55] <exec> 08└─sit in your living room and have a conversation and watch the advertising on the TV change to reflect your ongoing conversation AS YOU SPEAK, your 3rd amendment rights have been violated. The related parties deserve the same response that the redcoats got in 1776.
[17:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:30] <exec> 08└─For the experienced professional, it is indeed trivial.
[17:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New NextCry Ransomware Encrypts Data on NextCloud Linux Servers - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:31] <exec> 08└─I run a small NextCloud install for family/friends, but use Apache2 vs Nginx. I read the whole article and it *appears* that this ransomware is only able to attack NextCloud when Nginx/php-fpm is in use. Am I correct in assuming this is the case?
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[18:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:13] <exec> 08└─I remember on a tour of the Blue Mountains west of Sydney the rangers said the bush fires spread exceptionally fast because the eucalyptus trees expire fine mists of eucalyptus oils that help bush fires crown rapidly. They also said the native bush is adapted to those fires, and that it's part of th...
[18:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 1053 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:28] <exec> 08└─I've used LetsEncrypt for several years now, for a couple of domains that I maintain. I really like them for two reasons: simplicity and price. There is one potential criticism: They make no effort to verify the ownership of a domain. If you know what a certificate means (that your data are encrypte...
[18:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:30] <exec> 08└─My company has saved LOTS of money by using Let's Encrypt where we can, instead of traditional CAs. I can't exactly defend it, but it's a reality that the old process was not handled well by my company. We have trouble with small yearly costs, and they beget other costs: No one is monitoring a subst...
[18:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6x [903] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 1153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:17] <exec> 08└─Yes it is weird, If things that animals excrete are included in 'animal byproducts' (like Milk and honey), why isn't Carbon Dioxide included in animal by products? Taken to its extreme... Animals breath in oxygen. Their metabolism combines the oxygen with carbon, and the animals exhale Carbon Dioxid...
[18:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:19] <exec> 08└─I have ordered a “Garden Burger” countless times in the past and never under any circumstances believed that to mean “prepared in a hermetically sealed environment reducing probability of contact with non-GardenBurger substances to zero” because I’m not insane, stupid, or as evidenced in t...
[18:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:21] <exec> 08└─Fuck. There goes my commitment to breathairianism [rationalwiki.org].
[18:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:23] <exec> 08└─Impossible Feathers are (tm).
[18:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:13] <exec> 08└─printf is a single function. An API an a compendium of functions. You cannot copyright the world "printf" (though you can trademark it).
[18:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:56] <exec> 08└─Communism isn't socialism, get over your ignorance. Canada is a socialist country
[18:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:57] <exec> 08└─I would repair a broken sewer in filthy weather if it really needed to be done
[18:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:59] <exec> 08└─I completely agree with you. In a capitalist, competitive economy there would be no monopolies because market entrants would constantly challenge the status quo trying to get a slice of that sweet, rent-seeking pie. But they don't because we don't live in a capitalist society, but a crony capitalist...
[18:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:01] <exec> 08└─No, amigo, what you get is the same old Free Rider Problem. This has been gamed out for decades. It doesn't work.
[18:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Foundation Trilogy's Psychohistory is No Longer Sci-Fi - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that. It's an apt depiction of market timing. I used to work in mutual funds (Morningstar) and later in hedge funds, and so investment strategies are something we studied keenly. When you look across all of them, from market timers to contrarians and such, over the long term they all unde...
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[19:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:16] <exec> 08└─Aims to extend record of most successful thefts by stealing candy from babies. You'd think he'd want to break his record in a bout against other top-tier grandmasters, not picking on high schoolers.
[19:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:18] <exec> 08└─He's realized what a mistake his career has been and how computers can and will always do it better, so he's giving these kids an education while they still have an opportunity to pick a career that will actually mean something. :-)
[19:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:20] <exec> 08└─Your thoughts are as well conceived as usual. Carlsen was #1 in the world at 19, world champion at 23. Alireza Firouzja is currently #29 in the world (and is likely to move up the rankings fast). Jeffrey Xiong is currently #33 in the world. And, of the 14 players in the event, those two are seeded w...
[19:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:22] <exec> 08└─He's a multimillionaire creating games that people will likely still be discussing and analyzing centuries from now - all the while just for playing a game he loves to play. But you're right, he could be doing something important like working for a company to help them spam users with more ads while...
[19:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:24] <exec> 08└─Um, can't figure out if this is humor or ignorance, though I'm assuming ironic humor because you're smart... But for those who don't read the humor in it, all those "High Schoolers" are Grandmasters. The youngest GM minted to date (as mentioned in the article) was Sergey Karjakin at 12 years, 7 mont...
[19:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:27] <exec> 08└─I figured that might be the case, but, no I didn't actually know they were world-class.
[19:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:29] <exec> 08└─21 is hardly high school - as a young player I'd love to have the chance to play the world champion in a forum like this, even if I might expect a thorough trouncing, just to have the chance is an honor; and though it's unlikely, it's far from impossible to think that some under 21 players have a sh...
[19:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:38] <exec> 08└─I live more than 2,000 km to the west of Sydney, and have been getting incredible sunsets for the last couple of weeks due to the Australian fires. The Sun also looked slightly red to me on Sunday, which I assume is for the same reason.
[19:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:40] <exec> 08└─Bushfire-prone Australia has experienced a horrific start to its fire season, which scientists say is beginning earlier and becoming more extreme as climate change pushes temperatures higher and saps moisture from the environment.
[19:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:56] <exec> 08└─There is one potential criticism: They make no effort to verify the ownership of a domain. If you know what a certificate means (that your data are encrypted in transit), this is fine. However, many people expect a certificate to be a stamp of authenticity and trustworthiness.
[19:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:06] <exec> 08└─The best part is that Starliner is a craft developed for NASA that is unlikely to be used commercially (especially after Starship hits the scene). https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Space Adventures announced that it has acquired rights to sell ticke...
[19:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:49] <exec> 08└─Or...you can fuck right off and worry more about what *you* eat. That's right. Don't be sticking your nose in other people's business. If someone wants to eat healthy, that's their choice. If someone wants to stick shit in their mouth, that's their choice, too. What's it to you anyway?
[19:28:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:51] <exec> 08└─Fertilized with what?
[19:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:53] <exec> 08└─Yes, but that's the key takeaway from lunatics: they're fucking crazy idealogues. You can never please a vegan or have a normal conversation with one, even, because they will always bend every topic around to their dietary idiosyncrasies; I once lost 45 minutes of my life to a vegan who delved into...
[19:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:55] <exec> 08└─That said, Corporate had lawyers that should have known.
[19:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:57] <exec> 08└─They should put in the disclaimer, or cook it on a separate grill. Now if I could just get the coffee shop to use a separate knife for slicing onions. You may not be able to taste real meat in fake meat, but you can definitely taste onion on a bagel that's supposed to be plain. I'm not going to sue...
[19:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:00] <exec> 08└─True vegans need to avoid breathing air because air isn't 100% vegan. You're breathing molecules of animal skin, hair, and feces.
[19:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:02] <exec> 08└─You think lawyers, especially those that Corporate employ, would know anything about what goes on at the business end of a BK?
[19:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:31] <exec> 08└─So you are suggesting that we put into law the motive for killing authors?
[19:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:32] <exec> 08└─I was never terribly interested in Harry Potter and have never read any of the books, or seen the movies, but Harry Potter and The Strange Banana sounds great. Someone should get right on that.
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[20:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:16] <exec> 08└─Sell off stock = something big.
[20:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:17] <exec> 08└─From my own experience during the dot com days, this sort of thing doesn't happen unless the co-founders know something we don't. They are selling off to make whatever money they can before the crap hits the proverbial fan.
[20:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chess: Magnus Carlsen to Meet Top Teens in Pursuit of Record Unbeaten Run - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:31] <exec> 08└─That actually happened to some guy I heard about. His opponent got completely flummoxed and didn't know how to respond to a Queen to Queen's Level 3.
[20:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:41] <exec> 08└─Sssh. You should have figured out by now that he clings to his own alternative facts.
[20:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:43] <exec> 08└─Trees are made of wood and can catch fire. More news at 4:20
[20:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 1346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:02] <exec> 08└─Here's why that doesn't matter: What existed before Let's Encrypt was a system where if you had an identical level of control of a webserver (you need to be able to write to the webroot, and alter the configuration of the webserver, e.g. /etc/nginx or /etc/httpd), you could replace any existing SSL...
[20:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:03] <exec> 08└─yeah but he's talking about extended validation wherein some "authority" datamines the submitter so that they can have a green lock so all the sheople can feel safe while they browse with their slave reporting station.
[20:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:05] <exec> 08└─A somewhat related topic: What do Soylentils think of the proliferation of TLDs?
[20:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:08] <exec> 08└─That was no more true of Let's Encrypt than it was of, say, GoDaddy.
[20:29:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:07] <exec> 08└─Didn't say I was vegan or even vegetarian, dude. Nice try. And you need to read that article a little more closely in addition to my original post, too! By the way, Jeffery Dahmer was a meat eater. So was Charles Manson. They had mental problems. So what does that say about you?
[20:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03gtomorrow [2230] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:09] <exec> 08└─Really? With all due respect to you and your dietary intolerance, you pay $20 for a sandwich that you could make for yourself for $3-5 of ingredients and the same amount of time waiting in line for the special sanitary preparation?? I'm not picking fights here but I find that...looking for the right...
[20:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:11] <exec> 08└─Who read TFS? From TFS: [...] Its website describes the Impossible Burger as "100% Whopper, 0% Beef," and adds that "for guests looking for a meat-free option, a non-broiler method of preparation is available upon request."
[20:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:04] <exec> 08└─No. And it would seem that you are the reason we can't have nice things [soylentnews.org].
[20:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:05] <exec> 08└─(I'll assume Linux code is on Github, but I don't know without checking.) Without including the Windows codebase and modern hardware architecture, what's the point?
[20:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:08] <exec> 08└─What could possibly go wrong?
[20:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:08] <exec> 08└─I didn't say the manuals weren't copyrightable, just the opposite. I said the facts and processes contained in them are not. I recommend you learn what copyright covers and what it does not. Lest you believe a front page telling you, "you can't copy any part of this," not realizing that you can writ...
[20:31:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:10] <exec> 08└─Now let me ask you this: The code does almost exactly the same thing as before, but it LOOKS totally different. So should my previous copyright make my current code undefensable in court?
[20:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:52] <exec> 08└─Have you checked the "adult" section of the store? I'm pretty sure that one has already been made.
[20:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:54] <exec> 08└─writers of series should be able to protect their universe from intruders.
[20:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:51] <exec> 08└─Do what?
[20:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:53] <exec> 08└─A bitcoin wallet by itself is mostly anonymous. The way people are tracked is by using centralized services (like Coinbase) to get their coins which they then transfer under the same address. That's the equivalent, in terms of effective anonymity, of sending somebody a check. Your scammer here is pr...
[20:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Americans and Privacy: Concerned, Confused and Feeling Lack of Control Over Personal Information - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:55] <exec> 08└─no. just stop whoring their asses every chance they get. they fund their own prisons, whine about it and then fund it some more. they actively choose to support their masters and are too lazy to learn about any alternatives. they are pitiful slaves and i'm losing sympathy for them on the daily.
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[21:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:17] <exec> 08└─Sure it is. They want real money in their pockets and want to hand off the risk to someone else.
[21:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:18] <exec> 08└─Well, Its not very healthy EBITDA et al, and continuous need for financing maybe a good reason
[21:27:19] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 587 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:20] <exec> 08└─Despite the rhetoric about "disruption", they were never anything other than an employee-abusing car service with a phone app. They were pretending that the phone app made them a hi-tech company, but really the only unusual thing about them was that they got away with shifting basically the entire b...
[21:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:22] <exec> 08└─That was my first thought too. It isn't clear why Kalanick and Camp sold some of their shares;
[21:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:47] <exec> 08└─Trees are made of wood and can catch fire.
[21:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:11] <exec> 08└─No one is actually allergic to peanuts. It's actually something that was invented by millennial mothers so they could be a nuisance to other people.
[21:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:13] <exec> 08└─having worked at BK, the stuff on the chain the meat is on as it goes through he broiler doesn't really accumulate anything on it except carbon and ash. perhaps the one part that does is the bit that gets the cooked product off the chain after the cooked product is coming out of the fire. that fucke...
[21:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:15] <exec> 08└─Don't forget drinking water... just because drinking water chlorination genocided helpless bacteria and protists, that doesn't magically mean they didn't identify as animals. I'm sure vegans drink a considerable mass of microscopic animal corpses per year. Worse in areas with surface water. Little b...
[21:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:17] <exec> 08└─> No one is actually allergic to peanuts Not quite. In the old days last century there were almost no adults fatally allergic to peanuts, because they all _died_ suddenly early in life. _Now_ that we've been diagnosing it and have a chance of preventing death from it for a few decades we now have a...
[21:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:56] <exec> 08└─I gave him a +1 Funny :) I used to work in the power industry as an electrical engineer. Reading the summary, it sounds like cool Web 2.0 marketing speak. We already overlay network comms signals over power, that's how smart metres are read as well. There's nothing wrong with electrical protection s...
[21:29:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:57] <exec> 08└─Right, I'm pretty familiar with that. The idea that would be fun, in ham radio terms, is slap something like a duplexer on the power line that sends below 160M to the power stuff, and above 160M to what amounts to an antenna analyzer, and I bet stuff like trees growing to touch the wires or high win...
[21:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GitHub Will Store All of its Public Open Source Code in an Arctic Vault - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:15] <exec> 08└─The github page [github.com] says that they use silver halides (like photographs): On February 2, 2020, GitHub will capture a snapshot of every active public repository, to be preserved in the GitHub Arctic Code Vault. This data will be stored on 3,500-foot film reels, provided and encoded by Piql,...
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[22:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:13] <exec> 08└─Remember when the Government picking winners and losers was a bad thing?
[22:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:15] <exec> 08└─"Dangerous" in this case means, not providing a foreign government easy access to your bank account and / or government records/facilities. While, it's definitely too murky to tell, if Huawei is complicit, actively sabotaging, or otherwise. There is little doubt as to China's general attitude with r...
[22:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:17] <exec> 08└─The left-wing extremists at NPR are ignoring real Americans -- as usual. Real Americans don't care about those coastal [wikipedia.org] elites [wikipedia.org]. We want to hear about important stuff, like religious freedom [wikipedia.org] and agricultural issues [wikipedia.org]! Fuck you, NPR! You're...
[22:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I could see your point, if the company was a US company. In this case, it's a foreign company, that is likely acting in bad faith. Also, see Boeing, etc. for examples of winners getting contracts and no one else getting a seat at the table. It's cool that SpaceX is challenging that and winning...
[22:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:21] <exec> 08└─"Dangerous" in this case means, not providing a foreign government easy access to your bank account and / or government records/facilities.
[22:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:34] <exec> 08└─To be fair, one cashed out.. the other did the prudent thing. I think only a loon would leave 1+ billion in a firm, when one could pull 10% of 5% off.. and ensure they are rich forever. But even 27% is hardly 'cashing out'. And he may have other interests.. maybe even other ideas and things he wants...
[22:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:35] <exec> 08└─But even 27% is hardly 'cashing out'.
[22:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:02] <exec> 08└─Its actually worse than that. The oils trapped in the bark can explode due to the high temperatures, so you'd get fireballs shooting out which contributes to the rapid spread of the fires.
[22:28:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03theluggage [1797] 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 1385 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:17] <exec> 08└─Its certainly non-perfect, and belt-and-braces is always better, but if your server (or DNS) gets hacked then you're pretty much fucked anyway. LE's clearly-stated objective is to maximise the use of HTTPS, and automating the process as much as possible is the best way to achieve that (if you're a b...
[22:28:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:25] <exec> 08└─Padding the <li></li> with spaces works: <ul><li> https://crt.sh </li></ul>
[22:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:27] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming you aren't very aware how much of a tool you sound like with your choice of vocabulary.
[22:28:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:30] <exec> 08└─You don't even need to hijack BGP. If you have control of BANKOFARNERICA.COM, then you have control of a domain name that people could easily confuse with that of a major retail bank in the United States. Typosquatting and homoglyph squatting are the Achilles heel of DV certificates in general.
[22:28:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing Provides Damage Control After Inspector General's Report on Commercial Crew Program - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:40] <exec> 08└─Boeing have got fat and lazy. It looks like almost everything they produce is paid for in one way or another by taxpayers, so if they have to compete, they're screwed. They do spend more than almost anyone else on campaign contributions though, so they might be fine after all.
[22:28:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:59] <exec> 08└─Is there such a thing as allergy to beef?
[22:29:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 29 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:22] <exec> 08└─Impossible Feathers are (tm).
[22:29:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:38] <exec> 08└─So we're all murderers in the dust mite court of law!
[22:29:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:40] <exec> 08└─Lawyers don't eat at Burger King mate... they eat cash.
[22:29:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:43] <exec> 08└─I am fairly sure the menu at the drive through at the BK I tried an impossible whopper at said this explicitly, and that you could request a different preparation. Or perhaps the person at the drive-through asked me. I said normal is fine, though it still took extra long to prepare. Burger tasted th...
[22:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:45] <exec> 08└─It's still accurate to the number of significant figures stated. The beef "contamination" by cooking the fake meat on the same grill as the real meat is almost assuredly less than 0.5%. Unless the plaintiff can prove that, it isn't false advertizing.
[22:29:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:47] <exec> 08└─Watch out for bacon worshipers too. I mean, bacon is good food, but people developing an entire cult around it is silly. Also I can't imagine you getting out of your house long enough to actually meet someone with a differing opinion to you.
[22:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah he's a real dick for wanting to do things in public, maybe even fraternize with other humans while participating in their bonding rituals, without being attacked by the very food he eats. What an asshole.
[22:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:51] <exec> 08└─You can acquire a beef allergy from a tick bite [mayoclinic.org].
[22:29:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:53] <exec> 08└─This was already posted -- d'ough.
[22:29:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:56] <exec> 08└─The more effort is spent to shelter expectant mothers and then their progeny from Evil Allergens, the more hysterical and over-the-top the reaction of an untrained immune system of said progeny when the inevitable contact does happen at last. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [ni...
[22:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Charged Over Crypto Theft Via SIM Swapping, Death Threats - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:06] <exec> 08└─The Irish mob has moved into the 21 century. If Whitey [wikipedia.org] were alive today, he'd likely have made congratulatory calls [theintercept.com] to these guys for their creativity and entrepreneurship.
[22:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VoltServer Adds a Data Layer to Electricity Distribution, Could Help Smart Grid Rollout - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:37] <exec> 08└─It can't be all that high tech. They didn't even mention Blockchain and several other buzzwords.
[22:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:58] <exec> 08└─What IDE and API that might that have been?
[22:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 3671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:59] <exec> 08└─"You can't own goals." Sure you can. Patents are issued without workable prototypes all the time. Trademarks are issued for companies that don't yet have customers. "I'm still not clear. I'd probably have to examine a specific specimen of something to know what you have mind. People use them for dif...
[22:32:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gault.Drakkor [1079] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:01] <exec> 08└─How about different rights of copy right have different durations? Full rights: 10 years. Able to restrict commercial or public reproduction: 20 years Rights of attribution: 80 years. As for the topic: I can understand a different form of protection such as an API patent/trademark. That would be it...
[22:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:03] <exec> 08└─People aren't going to stop working together just because of API copyright. The reverse may also be true, which is that because of API stability, FOSS projects that are successful may get more support.
[22:32:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, I'm aware that "useful Arts" in the constitution refers to engineering and such. For the purpose of patents. Unfortunately they were terribly drunk when they wrote that, got confused, and went on to specifically mention authors.
[22:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:08] <exec> 08└─"Worried about making money out of software? Don't, there will still be plenty of people willing to pay you to customize some code for them." What if I'm a programmer and I don't want to wipe some oligarchs ass for a living? What if I want to write MY code with MY API implementation.
[22:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:10] <exec> 08└─"Oh do fuck off and die." I'll do you one better. Your mother smells of elderberries! "they used a single vendor's software, that'll be much better." Considering invasive DNS mining in monopoly telecom markets, isn't that is what is happening now? "Everybody who doesn't code the way you do is doing...
[22:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:12] <exec> 08└─"Astroturfing or just Butthurt?" You really shouldn't talk about your mother that way. Though she does have a tight ass, or so the neighborhood football team tells me.
[22:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The USPTO Wants to Know If Artificial Intelligence Can Own the Content It Creates - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:56] <exec> 08└─That one may have been "Harry Potter orders a pizza".
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[23:27:13] <exec> 08└─The question is liability and culpability for backdoors and no longer allocating personnel dollars (both in institutional knowledge, ongoing design/revisions, and responsibility to maintenance those pages). But harder on the closure of a liability door. If a project is officially EOL'd then the comp...
[23:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel End-of-Lifing BIOS and Driver Downloads for Dusty Hardware - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:14] <exec> 08└─I doubt this is that forward thinking. I'm betting a PHB heard they still had ancient drivers around and cried out: "But we want them to upgrade! Take that down. Now!" regardless that it has no bearing at all on current computer users. Never attribute to well thought out malice what can reasonably b...
[23:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Intel End-of-Lifing BIOS and Driver Downloads for Dusty Hardware - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:16] <exec> 08└─Seriously, what's the harm in keeping them up? You could probably manage the load on that website with a 486sx
[23:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:27] <exec> 08└─That assumes, the US govt. has been strong arming all of the US tech companies in perpetuity. This is less likely, due to the fact that we live in a much more free country, than China. Sure, with the implementation of the "Patriot" Act, there's a lot more to question, but so far we're not disappeari...
[23:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:29] <exec> 08└─Yes, and of course you have proof that Huawei is delivering such data and in the pocket of the Chinese government. Proof that all sorts of security companies and consultants are digging for because the one that could prove it would suddenly become extremely valuable to the prestige of the proving ac...
[23:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:31] <exec> 08└─Comma, inflation, I suppose. But let it aside. This is less likely, due to the fact that we live in a much more free country, than China.
[23:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:33] <exec> 08└─NSA strong arming tech companies? That has been proven unequivocally [wikipedia.org], in more than one instance [wikipedia.org], even if the companies involved were not directly complicit [schneier.com]. Proven far more thoroughly than these allegations against Huawei. Just sayin'.
[23:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:35] <exec> 08└─The problem US govt has with Huawei equipment may be the TLAs can't actually backdoor it without notice.
[23:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06American Giants Get 90 Days To Wrap Up Deals With 'Dangerous' Huawei - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:37] <exec> 08└─Now, look, as someone who lives in a country different from US, extraordinary rendition sounds potentially a bit more unpleasant
[23:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Co-Founders Sell Millions of Shares of Stock in the Company - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:52] <exec> 08└─The rats are abandonning the ship. 'Nuff said.
[23:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Informative) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:20] <exec> 08└─Did you mean East of Sydney? I thought you were a sheepshagger.
[23:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:21] <exec> 08└─New Caledonia, Vanuatu and the NZ's Northern Island [twitter.com] got a share too. Looked like this in places https://pbs.twimg.com [twimg.com]
[23:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sydney Shrouded in Hazardous Smog from Raging Bushfires - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:23] <exec> 08└─Help! Send water!
[23:28:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Let’s Encrypt: An Automated Certificate Authority to Encrypt the Entire Web - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:48] <exec> 08└─LetsEncrpyt and other ACME based systems make no change to that problem. EV certificates are pointless as nobody knows what they even are.
[23:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:05] <exec> 08└─My advice? If you ever meet one, back away slowly.
[23:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:06] <exec> 08└─I'll stop sticking my nose into vegans's business when they stop sticking theirs into mine. I have many vegetarian friends. Throughout the years, they've served me the most delightfull meals I've ever had. I have no problem with them. But they are vegetarians, not fucking vegans. They don't throw a...
[23:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:08] <exec> 08└─And you're just trying to sound smart on the Internet by making completely irrelevant and pointless associations about intelligence and choice of diet. Fuck you too. And by the way, I have more admiration and respect for creatures like wolves and bears than for little fucktards like you.
[23:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger King Grilled by Vegan Over Impossible Burger "Meat Contamination" - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:11] <exec> 08└─I imagine vegans are a lot more likely to drink RO water than non-vegans just because they are more conscientious about that stuff. I'm non-vegan but I try not to drink tap water unless I'm in a situation where I don't really have any reasonable alternatives.
[23:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Research Reveals New State Of Matter: A Cooper Pair Metal - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:36] <exec> 08└─the words "New state of matter" always being thrown around just to overhype the discovery. It's usually either a Solid, Liquid, or gas (and there are some others), just because something that's in one of those states is discovered with a given property doesn't mean it's suddenly a new state of matte...
[23:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Contrary View on API Copyrights - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:24] <exec> 08└─Totally, Something like this needs to happen. The lack of correct handling for software copyright patent is one of the things that is creating a lot of security problems. UI code is expensive. You can write clean protocol code cheaper than UI code. But because the courts and the copyright office don...
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