#comments | Logs for 2019-11-06

« return
[00:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[00:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916601
[00:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:18] <exec> 08└─"Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome" Yeah, no shit, What is the point of this post? Just churn out SN's quota?
[00:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:20] <exec> 08└─"Parasites Lost"
[00:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:22] <exec> 08└─Apparently that's mostly a Southern Hemisphere game - the upside-downers tend to carry larger, more visible cohabitating creatures along with them, while the Polaris facing set are more beset by the magical invisible daemons.
[00:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:24] <exec> 08└─Sorry [theinfosphere.org]
[00:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:26] <exec> 08└─i may have a shit eating grin, but i'm not about to start eating shit.
[00:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:27:40] <exec> 08└─Ringworld and Ringworld Engineers are in my collection. They are well worn.
[00:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:06] <exec> 08└─Provide money without increasing supply -> higher prices indeed, but Increase supply -> lower prices.
[00:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:07] <exec> 08└─But looking at the article, and the links from it, it appears that Apple is providing loans to promote housebuilding (loans that presumably will have to be paid back, so it's not really a subsidy) and also loans to help people buy houses (thereby increasing the money that's chasing houses). If they...
[00:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:09] <exec> 08└─There is no increase in real estate supply.
[00:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:15] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, baseline -> firmament. The other axes don't have that divider
[00:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:30:17] <exec> 08└─So... The matter density appears to be about 5% higher than the matter density at which the universe would be flat. What no one is saying is what radius of curvature is consistent with this oversupply of matter.
[00:32:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pav [114] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:29] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you're not old enough to remember when BSD was just becoming competative on the desktop. Apple swooped in, hired away many of the key developers, and made a proprietary fork. This left the BSD desktop bled of developer energy, and pulled away many of those advanced users who would have other...
[00:32:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:30] <exec> 08└─Seems really odd to word it that way if that's what he meant, why even mention "permissive" if you don't mean it?
[00:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Stuck In A Polish Nuclear Weapon Bunker, Cannibal Wood Ants Found The Way Home - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:55] <exec> 08└─Doesn't sound like carpenter ants can create a new queen like honeybees can. Once the queen is gone, that colony eventually dies out. However after about two years there should have been other queens produced to swarm off elsewhere. Not sure if the constrained environment (or perpetual drain on w...
[00:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Android Bug Lets Hackers Plant Malware Via NFC Beaming - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:07] <exec> 08└─"Google said this wasn't meant to happen, as the Android Beam service was never meant as a way to install applications" Why, then, did they program the connection server to accept applications for installation? Google, to back up your assersion, show us the history of the specification document, the...
[00:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Discriminating Diets Of Meat-Eating Dinosaurs - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:35] <exec> 08└─Would have been funnier if he upchucked the lawyer and started to eat grass.
[00:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ends Development on Custom ARM Cores, Signals Layoffs at Austin, Texas R&D Center - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:51] <exec> 08└─Both of those are somewhat special cases. Apple, another multibillion-dollar corporation, does everything it can in-house no matter what the cost, and the CPU with all of its Apple-specific custom features is pretty much the crown jewels of the iEverything ecosystem. Qualcomm, yet another multibilli...
[00:38:23] <exec> count new = 17
[00:38:24] <exec> count top = 0
[00:38:24] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[01:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[01:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916624
[01:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:22] <exec> 08└─The FCC believes the deal will close the digital divide and advance 5G in the US.
[01:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bacterial Arms Race May Shape Gut Microbiome - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:35] <exec> 08└─I know some people within whom the battle among bacteria fighting for survival is not so quiet.
[01:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:50] <exec> 08└─thanks you for helping to bring about the wireheading future. free paperclips all around!
[01:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:51] <exec> 08└─Naaah... they cured me of the addiction to Ringworld novels (grin)
[01:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:54] <exec> 08└─Bullets for the Sackler family then? They're the ones causing the opioid epidemic. Or are we still doing victim blaming?
[01:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:56] <exec> 08└─Just give them some fucking dude weed lmao. If that doesn't do the trick, then spirit journey with DMT or shrooms. Not so sure about processed ergot, but that's better than this shit! "My god man, drilling holes in his head isn't the answer!" The soul must be repaired! You humans already have all yo...
[01:28:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:25] <exec> 08└─You'll see, absent a housing crash real estate prices will go up in the Bay Area.
[01:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:27] <exec> 08└─I want back my 3 minutes of wasted time reading the linked.
[01:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:29] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's $70,000 http://meetingthetwain.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]
[01:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:06] <exec> 08└─And the people who live in racist areas that effectively remove their right to vote. Maybe you should look into the issues before you claim the high ground in total ignorance.
[01:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:07] <exec> 08└─This is not oligarchic crap, quite the opposite actually by making it harder for people to run fraudulent businesses to launder their ill gotten monies and evade taxes. I don't think any honest business has any problem mailing a piece of paper outlining who has a stake in their business.
[01:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:09] <exec> 08└─The difficulty of filling out the form is not an issue, IMO. It's the fact you have to fill out one more form. A small business owner works his arse off already, often times putting in double the hours of any employee. Most small business owners start on less than a shoestring, and work their way up...
[01:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:11] <exec> 08└─People keep saying that. But, when you grab hold of a 20,000 volt power line, reality fries your ass. I guess that is what is meant with that silly saying - liberals will kill you in an instant if you cross them.
[01:32:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:14] <exec> 08└─Yet another alt-left conspiracy theory comes to light . . .
[01:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:16] <exec> 08└─Alrighty boomer
[01:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:18] <exec> 08└─I thought everyone here was a 4chan member. Well, certainly the left-leaning members.
[01:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:20] <exec> 08└─I thought everyone here was a 4chan member. Well, certainly the left-leaning members.
[01:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 1081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:03] <exec> 08└─Why do gnu types persist in believing the existence of a closed-source fork magically destroys its upstream? That's a strawman argument. People adopting GPL/copyleft want all software to be free. There will never be a consumer product running a completely free FreeBSD stack because it's always more...
[01:37:02] <exec> count new = 18
[01:37:02] <exec> count top = 0
[01:37:02] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[02:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[02:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916644
[02:27:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:27] <exec> 08└─The FCC believes the deal will close the digital divide and advance 5G in the US.
[02:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:29] <exec> 08└─The right parts finally got greased. Therefore this is now legally approved. Thank you for your valuable input into this deliberation of a very important subject.
[02:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:31] <exec> 08└─After the others all merged up, why not this too? The result won't even be the biggest. If we should reject this, we also need to break up the bigger companies. This one is nothing.
[02:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:33] <exec> 08└─+1 Have you heard any consumer demands for 5G at all where you are, as I certainly haven't here. I hear complaints about the well-established infrastructures that can penetrate walls and reach for miles (metric ones, obviously), but that can be achieved at very little cost just by organically improv...
[02:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:35] <exec> 08└─But you started this in 1982: https://en.wikipedia.org It's just that you only addresses that one single case and then completely forgot about why you had done it almost immediately afterwards.
[02:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:38] <exec> 08└─I for one welcome the merger of the German carrier (T-Mobile) and the Japanese carrier (Sprint). Now all we need is for All-American AT&T to merge with Verizon again and call itself Allied Mobile. I fully expect a free Trumpfone. Speaking of free, T-Mobile is giving away free mobile hotspots loaded...
[02:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:40] <exec> 08└─have committed to deploying 5G service to cover 97 percent of Americans within three years.
[02:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:42] <exec> 08└─After all this time I still can't grasp why every person need all this mobile shit. Hurray, more clips of family guy and pictures of cats. More stupid alerts about dumb little things that idiots have been conditioned to treat as life and death. Put up with big companies tracking everything you do, b...
[02:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:44] <exec> 08└─I don't think it has much to do with what customers want. Where I live, one of the mobile companies is showing regular ads on TV about how "5G will enable new technologies, like driverless cars" which is obvious bullshit, but they're happy to lie to clueless users. What I am pretty sure is going t...
[02:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:46] <exec> 08└─Wasting my evening posting dumb shit on SoylentNews through a fucking mobile device. Hell YEAH!
[02:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:18] <exec> 08└─You made the whole fucking epidemic in the first place, and your only response is to make things worse!
[02:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:28:50] <exec> 08└─How about Apple pledges to pay its share of taxes.
[02:29:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NYT Report Claims Breathalyzer Readings Can be Highly Inaccurate - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:29:39] <exec> 08└─Citation needed. Not only can you challenge any evidence of any crime in court, any less being a violation of due process, but Iowa has a website specifically designed to assist people who want to challenge their BAC results: https://breathalcohol.iowa.gov [iowa.gov] The only thing even close to wh...
[02:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:30:59] <exec> 08└─You do go off the edge of the Earth if you go UP.
[02:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:31:00] <exec> 08└─The inside and outside of a sphere both have positive curvature, negative curvature is not so straightforward. A plane has zero curvature - simultaneously shoot two projectiles (in frictiononless vacuum, etc) parallel to each other across the surface, a short distance apart, and their paths will for...
[02:32:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:32:40] <exec> 08└─Oh? Have you run a business and dealt with all the regulatory crap? What do you think happens when one of the dozens of documents like this turns out to have an error or gets forgotten?
[02:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:32:42] <exec> 08└─It looks like they are a Public Benefit Corporation registered in Delaware. Now, I'm not licensed in Delaware, but I usually tell my clients here that they are better off forming a new non-profit and then transferring the property over. It isn't too difficult but would probably cost $1000 or less to...
[02:36:56] <exec> count new = 16
[02:36:56] <exec> count top = 1
[02:36:56] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[03:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[03:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916663
[03:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:25] <exec> 08└─Until iRobot decides to target Mexicans, the voracious Central American immigrant that has no natural predators here and so continues to increase in numbers.
[03:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:26] <exec> 08└─Si no hablas al menos un poco de español, vas a tener un tiempo mal :)
[03:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:43] <exec> 08└─German Japanese American... Now there's a real shotgun wedding...
[03:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:45] <exec> 08└─"5G" is really "4.1G". But that didn't stop AT&T from pretending to have it, and then everyone else had to pretend too, to keep up. Now the imaginary technology has new imaginary benefits! Everyone wins!
[03:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:47] <exec> 08└─Breaking up AT&T was a stupid move because we the people love monopoly. Almost every MVNO in America is owned by América Móvil anyway which is reseller of every carrier. Why bother having four or three mobile carriers when we only need one.
[03:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:49] <exec> 08└─Inevitable merger of Axis Mobile with Allied Mobile will be a nuclear wedding.
[03:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:21] <exec> 08└─I think I was up to Man-Kzin Wars V before I finally chilled out on it... was fun for a while though.
[03:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:28:23] <exec> 08└─Given what hallucinogens/entheogens do and how they work, advising most people who are in the kind of situation where opioid addiction is a problem to use them is somewhere between irresponsible and murderous. Bad trips can cause permanent, irreversible mental damage. I'm just glad you didn't sugges...
[03:29:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYT Report Claims Breathalyzer Readings Can be Highly Inaccurate - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:42] <exec> 08└─Which states provide you the option of a blood test instead of a breath test?
[03:29:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYT Report Claims Breathalyzer Readings Can be Highly Inaccurate - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:44] <exec> 08└─I'll believe the justice system is serious about integrity and due process when the people who pencil whip lab tests and calibrations start doing real time in significant numbers. Someone was responsible for servicing the breathalyzer that had rats nesting in it. They couldn't possibly have thought...
[03:29:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYT Report Claims Breathalyzer Readings Can be Highly Inaccurate - 3096 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:29:46] <exec> 08└─Somewhat accountable, yes. The final project I was on was an utter train wreck, so bad that even the military boys couldn't help noticing. Management tried to blame everything on the peons, of which I was one of the most notable. We were all "quitted". But that didn't fool the military, not that tim...
[03:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, but you have to evoke a 3rd dimension to leave the 2D surface. The analog for going "off the edge of the universe" would be traveling through the 4th (or higher) dimensions, possibly encountering other 3D universe "surfaces" along the way. Or perhaps only perceiving a continuous metamorphosis o...
[03:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:31:09] <exec> 08└─"Sufficiently advanced demons and/or aliens are indistinguishable from God." Think about that for a bit.
[03:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:51] <exec> 08└─I was wondering the same thing. The only thing I can think of is the editor didn't consider the connotation of putting quotes around the word "impeachment" in the submission, as without them I don't think it is too bad. But it still doesn't seem real germane to the site, especially since it is not a...
[03:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:53] <exec> 08└─Complying with the law is not a burden,
[03:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:55] <exec> 08└─What's supposed to be the benefit of this law?
[03:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:57] <exec> 08└─That software should be provided for free by the government
[03:33:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 1157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:11] <exec> 08└─Most of the sources asserting that are associated with M$, usually being founded by "former" microsofters who then publish easily debunked studies maligning the GPL and copyleft in general. A red flag in that area is that if one writes or talks about "permissive" or "restrictive" licensing. That's s...
[03:37:10] <exec> count new = 17
[03:37:10] <exec> count top = 1
[03:37:10] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[04:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[04:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916687
[04:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:22] <exec> 08└─I been saying this shit since back in September of 2001 and everyone's all "Poo poo! They'll never do that, this is America!". Well, here's your lesson for the day. Democrat or Republican, they'll take every bit of power and control over your life that you let them get away with. They got this parti...
[04:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03D2 [5107] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:23] <exec> 08└─Get a grip, you paranoid cabbage. This isn't a passport or national ID. First, A passport is quite literally documentation required to cross a border. Nobody needs this just to move around the country. I routinely drive across state borders without needing a passport or Starred ID. As for national I...
[04:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:26] <exec> 08└─Don't subject yourself to TSA.
[04:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:28] <exec> 08└─You don't have a right to a vehicle.
[04:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03D2 [5107] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:30] <exec> 08└─Apparently the AIER is libertarian ranting masquerading as an economic policy think tank. Case in point: nothing economic about this, but here they are, ranting about this encroaching on freedom. FTN. When I want a sensible take on civil liberties, I look to the EFF.
[04:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:32] <exec> 08└─So next time get mad instead of scared. There will still be consequences to not thinking but it'll be someone else having to live with them instead of you.
[04:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:34] <exec> 08└─I can't really see why this is an issue? Most countries in the world have some kind of internal ID mechanism, why do Americans not want it?
[04:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Captival [6866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:36] <exec> 08└─I don't really care if it IS a national ID. As a non-terrorist non-illegal, I already require a State ID anyways, and it's not like the feds can't get that info if they really want it.
[04:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:05] <exec> 08└─5G uses a different set of frequencies than 4G. This means there will need to be more towers for 5G than 4G needs. This means they can locate your position with greater accuracy using 5G than with 4G. It's not consumer demands that are being met.
[04:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:06] <exec> 08└─I am a lucky one who already has 100 from them and in the woods, mind you. My problem is that the plan is drained in a few minutes and then speed drops to a crawl.
[04:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:41] <exec> 08└─I support your thinking regardless of the SJW's on here who feel triggered and will vote you down into oblivion. But I was kind of thinking that we should just collect them all (the junkies) and put them on a remote island and let them figure it out for themselves. We'll offer get out of island jail...
[04:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 1524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:43] <exec> 08└─Your analysis is correct, including the wet dream of a Skynet Trusted Platform Module to add to hooman brains. I'm anxious to see how capital screws up the legal weed. My guess is they'll do it with early harvesting. I've gotten some bud from gray market, and looking at the trichromes under microsco...
[04:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:31:31] <exec> 08└─high/deep is the same dimension ackshually
[04:33:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 1886 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:48] <exec> 08└─FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD all break the ABI every major release distribution. I am not sure this is true. However, they all say "if you plan to break the API, you MUST wait until the next major release". That is why it is called a major release! And ABI changes are typically few and relatively minor...
[04:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:00] <exec> 08└─This, this, this. Question: does *BSD fulfill my use case, i.e., can it run this software on this hardware? No? Then it's useless. I use FreeBSD because that's what FreeNAS uses. The fact that it uses FreeBSD rather than Linux is mostly irrelevant to me, I care about the use case.
[04:36:18] <exec> count new = 14
[04:36:18] <exec> count top = 1
[04:36:18] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[05:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[05:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916704
[05:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:25] <exec> 08└─No right to live, have yooooooooou.
[05:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:26] <exec> 08└─Because if you're not driving, you're not required to carry a driver's license.
[05:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:28] <exec> 08└─Shut up, Elon.
[05:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:30] <exec> 08└─https://www.eff.org/issues/real-id [eff.org] TL;DR: "We also fucking hate Real ID."
[05:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2, Touché) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that ain't something that happens here in the states. We're so big on being pissed off that it's our primary export.
[05:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:35] <exec> 08└─Because we have this funny notion that the government works for us and not the other way around, so it's none of their fucking business who we are unless there's a warrant out for us.
[05:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:37] <exec> 08└─This is post-9/11 America. You're not allowed to be angry. Your beliefs are so badly out of date, you're going to the mental ward.
[05:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:39] <exec> 08└─You might have realized (still waiting for Trump to get it) the govt does not work for you personally. If your countrymen decide it's best for "the country" to give you a lobotomy then you will get one - a nice one probably. You'll be bakc wearing the red hat the next day.
[05:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:41] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that ain't something that happens here in the states. We're so big on being pissed off that it's our primary export.
[05:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:44] <exec> 08└─"...it's none of their fucking business who we are or where we are going", unless there's a warrant issued for us. TFTFY.
[05:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:46] <exec> 08└─Pay up, Bezos.
[05:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:48] <exec> 08└─I can't really see why this is an issue? Most countries in the world have some kind of internal ID mechanism, why do Americans not want it?
[05:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:50] <exec> 08└─Shut up, Elon.
[05:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:00] <exec> 08└─This could be the start of the end. Unregulated robot armies mining the sea for fish. Let's hope some creator invents a robot to eat these robots.
[05:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:23] <exec> 08└─acme mobile. they could dredge up an old road runner cartoon or two for context.
[05:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:00] <exec> 08└─Oof, salvia is something else. It doesn't seem to work for me, but watching videos of people tripping on it is morbidly hilarious. I don't think it has much usefulness. Bad trips can cause permanent, irreversible mental damage.
[05:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:33] <exec> 08└─The people who own houses do not want housing prices to go down. The people who don't own houses want housing prices to go down, until they buy a house, after which they want the prices to go back up.
[05:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:20] <exec> 08└─If Unix had been released under GPL, would we be here talking about it? I first went online with a BSD 4.3 based TCP/IP stack and am posting this with a BSD 4.4 based stack. That freedom to tweek and keep closed the stack while needing to inter-operate was one of the things that allowed the internet...
[05:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:21] <exec> 08└─Read it in context and try again.
[05:36:39] <exec> count new = 19
[05:36:39] <exec> count top = 0
[05:36:39] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[06:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[06:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916724
[06:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:50] <exec> 08└─But I bet you can't stay in Norway without a national ID so long that your kids (who also don't have an ID) are applying to college and wondering if they'll get deported to a country where they don't even speak the language. It's almost like the USA doesn't bother to enforce some laws. No. Wait. It'...
[06:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:52] <exec> 08└─And...? No, really, it's a genuine question: what exactly is your point? I can see many possible interpretations and I have this feeling there may be others that I don't see.
[06:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:02] <exec> 08└─Before I launch onto some save nature meme, I will note the lionfish is an invasive species, covered with poisonous spines, and it wreaks havoc, reproduces like mad, and nothing out there will mess with it. But, once past those poisonous spines, it's a tasty fish. So, we will let the Roomba deal wit...
[06:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:04] <exec> 08└─Somehow after reading the description all I can see is these Sea Roomba's reporting to Box the chrome ice robot. https://youtu.be [youtu.be] Plankton and fish, sea greens and protein from the sea. Fresh as harvest day... Seriously though, how many can one robot harvest? I get the f...
[06:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:06] <exec> 08└─There's always a bigger fishrobot...
[06:29:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:29:07] <exec> 08└─If by "victim" you mean "shit-stained junkie" then sure, them too.
[06:32:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 493 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:32:30] <exec> 08└─Missing the point. It would cause unnecessary work, unnecessary risk, and privacy invasion for NCommander and matt_. All for the crime of paying out of their own pockets to get this place up and running. Or if we didn't pay attention and missed it one time later down the road, they'd get fined aroun...
[06:32:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 1109 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:32:58] <exec> 08└─I've been in business for 15 years and even so, just this year some obscure state agency I'd never heard about wants some data that has taken over a week's worth of hours to complete. So much of this stuff is completely outside the realm of what you would think about -- about three or four years int...
[06:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:43] <exec> 08└─Are you asserting there's no benefit?
[06:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:44] <exec> 08└─Such disclosures are under 5 USC § 552a(b) and are not allowed without the express written permission of the person in the record. There are exceptions to that rule, but they mostly apply to government, law enforcement, or litigation use. Based on the quoted language, I think the writer of the re...
[06:36:31] <exec> count new = 8
[06:36:31] <exec> count top = 2
[06:36:32] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[07:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[07:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916732
[07:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:21] <exec> 08└─Worse, if you get one of these notices (maybe an email, maybe a letter—the law actually does not specify) and accidentally ignore it, you're on the hook for the money with a very limited ability to appeal Bad though the law may be, I'd hope that any sentient being would have the sense to actually...
[07:27:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 83 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:46] <exec> 08└─https://www.eff.org/issues/real-id [eff.org] TL;DR: "We also fucking hate Real ID."
[07:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:58] <exec> 08└─It is a small step: first require that all _persons_ have a valid ID...later define those who fail to produce said ID on demand to be non-_persons_. Nonpersons do not fare well if one's government devolves into oppressive tyranny, and there are signs that such devolution is imminent and unavoidable,...
[07:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:28:00] <exec> 08└─Having a passing familiarity with that lovely country, I'll hazard a guess that the key to their relative success is that their officials, and their population in general, are remarkably uncorrupt and liberal. You wouldn't get the same results with the same system in the USA, or in AU for that matte...
[07:32:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:32:02] <exec> 08└─You're forgetting the Elephants.
[07:36:20] <exec> count new = 4
[07:36:20] <exec> count top = 1
[07:36:20] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[08:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[08:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916740
[08:27:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 1388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:22] <exec> 08└─Because it means the kangaroo court will probably go away fairly quickly. And I think it probably is unconstitutional. This pseudo-court is created in the Office of Copyright, which is under the authority of Article I (Legislative branch). Courts for resolving material disputes between parties need...
[08:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:24] <exec> 08└─Get ready for all the scam/spam letters mimicking these letters then.
[08:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:03] <exec> 08└─Yet voter ID laws you applaud. See the cognitive dissonance inherent in the system!
[08:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:04] <exec> 08└─These types of posts always crack me up because I never see them on CNN et al stories which are all obvious CIA propaganda at this point: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://caitli...
[08:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:28:42] <exec> 08└─Location with 4G was already possible to within 5-10m. I used to work for a company called Cambridge Positioning Systems, back in the 90s when it was only 3G, and they'd mastered that already. That was in the days before GPS on every phone (as mandated by the FCC, for tha chiiiildrun), so did actual...
[08:29:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:29:54] <exec> 08└─Branch out to other cities/states, tech companies or California residents... There is a whole country outside your little navel.
[08:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:32:12] <exec> 08└─Someone actually calculated the average distance in an infinite universe it would be before you got an exact copy of the Earth, including us, and also an exact copy of the Milky Way, they were bloody big numbers, something like 4 to the googol to the googol to the googol, when measured in metres. II...
[08:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:32:14] <exec> 08└─Hurts to ride an epicycle
[08:36:33] <exec> count new = 8
[08:36:34] <exec> count top = 0
[08:36:34] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[09:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[09:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916751
[09:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:33] <exec> 08└─called a 6 week stop on Saturday ... due to fears it could cost votes in marginal constituencies in an unsurprising U-turn just weeks before a general election Fixed that for you
[09:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:44] <exec> 08└─What am I missing? They say that, even if a kernel/disto is theoretically better, they need to run certain software to do something. You tell them to install it. I point out that you can't just install everything across systems, even from Linux to BSD or BSD to BSD. Or did you forget the reason for...
[09:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 2397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:46] <exec> 08└─Very slightly expanded context: "He discusses Linux as the kernel, and BSDes as the kernel. To me though if you use BSDes, you get the whole distribution (guess where the D stands for). A kernel might have superior features, but if the rest of the software doesn't run my workflow I won't use it (I'v...
[09:36:23] <exec> count new = 3
[09:36:23] <exec> count top = 0
[09:36:24] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[10:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[10:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916754
[10:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:27:31] <exec> 08└─This is exactly how I imagine the USA works inside. What's wrong with bankruptcies and ruining lives for profit? Serious crimes against idolic market require serious deterrent... And you Americans voted those lawmakers into power, did you?
[10:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:28:13] <exec> 08└─https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P8JW75Lv25k&t=27 [youtube.com]
[10:28:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06FCC Formally Approves the T-Mobile-Sprint Merger - 773 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:28:40] <exec> 08└─I don't think it has much to do with what customers want. Where I live, one of the mobile companies is showing regular ads on TV about how "5G will enable new technologies, like driverless cars" which is obvious bullshit, but they're happy to lie to clueless users. What I am pretty sure is going t...
[10:29:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 159 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:29:37] <exec> 08└─The Golden State's fundamental housing problem is that state and local laws simply don't allow developers to build enough housing to accommodate rising demand.
[10:36:21] <exec> count new = 2
[10:36:21] <exec> count top = 2
[10:36:22] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[11:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[11:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916756
[11:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:39] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's time for another “shall pass no law” note somewhere in that paperbook. // I don't actually in US, but US copyright issues tend to crawl all over the planet.
[11:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:41] <exec> 08└─I'd hope that any sentient being would have the sense to actually read a letter or email from their government.
[11:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:49] <exec> 08└─Exactly. if the Tories get in, expect this ban to be lifted the very next day.
[11:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:27:51] <exec> 08└─and if Labour gets in expect them to u-turn after 2 years and lift the ban. Wow elections are fun so much choice!
[11:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:28:38] <exec> 08└─Hm. That wasn't the first thing I thought of: Once stunned, the lionfish are vacuumed into a water-filled chamber. From there, the exotic fish may land on restaurant menus be used as ammunition when the machine is set from "suck" to "blow." [youtu.be]
[11:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:32:34] <exec> 08└─Never forget I am not this silver body, Mahrai. I am not an animal brain, I am not even some attempt to produce an AI through software running on a computer. I am a Culture Mind. We are close to gods, and on the far side.
[11:36:33] <exec> count new = 6
[11:36:33] <exec> count top = 0
[11:36:33] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[12:08:02] -!- RandomFactor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[12:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[12:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916765
[12:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:21] <exec> 08└─Replace the head of Hong Kong with democratically elected leadership. Then do the same for China as a whole. Anything else doesn't fix the underlying problem. President Xi Jinping wasn't voted in by Chinese voters and there's no mechanism for kicking him out for the shenanigans going on in Hong Kong...
[12:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:28] <exec> 08└─Doesn't this only show systems with planets directly between Earth and the parent star in a given month? How would this capture something like Jupiter, which orbits once every 11 years, and even if it did transit, would mean less than a 1% chance of it transiting in that month.
[12:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:40] <exec> 08└─copyright laws for digital media is state sanctioned racketeering. "and / or / else" i copyright you!
[12:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:51] <exec> 08└─holy crap! one thousand years of national gas needs! next step will probably be to find ways to use it up in 50 years! as for pesky local protest ... well... just offer profit sharing to towns people. i am sure renovations will also offer more jobs ... paid for by more earthquake profits. ^_^
[12:32:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:32] <exec> 08└─.. so you can prove that the Earth is "a space globe" then. Right?
[12:32:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:33] <exec> 08└─The surface of the Earth is (approximately) a sphere
[12:32:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:36] <exec> 08└─"the universe being flat"
[12:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:23] <exec> 08└─Yes. No benefit. Keep in mind there was no need for the law for generations. What changed?
[12:36:17] <exec> count new = 8
[12:36:17] <exec> count top = 0
[12:36:17] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[13:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[13:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916776
[13:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:41] <exec> 08└─I'm looking at that image [cbsistatic.com] for already 10 minutes and none, not a single star, blinked. I therefore declare the mission a failure and a huge waste of money (which would find a better use if given to me). Is this what you wanted to say?
[13:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:42] <exec> 08└─NASA, 1958: "Permanent, underground base on the Moon by 1968" NASA, 2019:
[13:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:44] <exec> 08└─They run out of special effects budget, can't run a Big Brother house on the Moon for long.
[13:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:43] <exec> 08└─The law only applies to citizens... if you enter the country illegally, you're scott free!
[13:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:32] <exec> 08└─They are artificially increasing the supply of money, which will pump up real estate prices. Anyone who wants to build will have to pay more for that property and then charge more for it to make a profit. This isn't hard to understand.
[13:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:34] <exec> 08└─loans that presumably will have to be paid back, so it's not really a subsidy
[13:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:57] <exec> 08└─The shape of the universe doesn't give a damn about my opinion. Evidence determines the right answer, not my opinion.
[13:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:46] <exec> 08└─Yes. No benefit.
[13:36:10] <exec> count new = 8
[13:36:10] <exec> count top = 0
[13:36:11] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[14:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[14:26:04] <exec> last cid = 916784
[14:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:21] <exec> 08└─Nobody notices the effects of throttling because Soylentils are old people who are nostalgic about dialup and SoylentNews uses a 1990s era codebase unmodified.
[14:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:23] <exec> 08└─If it ain't broke - don't fix it.
[14:27:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:25] <exec> 08└─Don’t hit me with your modem! https://dilbert.com [dilbert.com]
[14:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:27] <exec> 08└─Honestly. It’s like all the n-Chan refugee 4th grade alt-libertarian edgelords found a new home here. Sad.
[14:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:35] <exec> 08└─ZERO COMMENTS means NEEDS MORE NIGGERS
[14:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 2708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:44] <exec> 08└─I don't really think this is the issue. To start with let's try to assess the popularity of the protesters. We can measure this in at least 3 ways: 1) Anecdotal - the least valuable, but in this case it's ubiquitous and also reporting the exact same thing. The protesters had positive to mixed suppor...
[14:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:54] <exec> 08└─Yes, it does only capture exoplanets when they occlude the light from their parent star arriving at earth. As you say, that's only going to happen once every eleven years for a planet with an orbital period like Jupiter's, but it's even worse than that because it relies on the entire *orbit* being a...
[14:28:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 1388 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:02] <exec> 08└─Because it means the kangaroo court will probably go away fairly quickly. And I think it probably is unconstitutional. This pseudo-court is created in the Office of Copyright, which is under the authority of Article I (Legislative branch). Courts for resolving material disputes between parties need...
[14:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:10] <exec> 08└─How often do you check your spam folder? Do you read every political advertisement that you get?
[14:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:57] <exec> 08└─It's still 100% unneeded bullshit as EVERY 9/11 hijack already had a legitimate ID of some sort.
[14:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:50] <exec> 08└─I am certain that they would continue rising without this new forcing.
[14:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:15] <exec> 08└─It looks and measures level.
[14:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:16] <exec> 08└─I think that was Tegmark.
[14:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MyOpinion [6561] (Score: -1) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:19] <exec> 08└─Literal sense: horizontal, planar, level. Are you claiming it is not?
[14:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:21] <exec> 08└─Horizontal and planar are not synonyms.
[14:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 1547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:58] <exec> 08└─As well as reciprocal versus non-reciprocal there is also the scope of licence applicability - essentially what is referred to as the "viral" bit in the GPL, but I don't like that description really. Although GPL is the archetypal reciprocal licence, reciprocity is actually orthogonal / independent...
[14:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stuck In A Polish Nuclear Weapon Bunker, Cannibal Wood Ants Found The Way Home - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:24] <exec> 08└─They think in the short term, they shoot us all in the foot for their personal gain. My friends and I are a different kind of people, and we are a definite side you could choose to be on. It is not like the choices are a. help evil people destroy the world or b. watch evil people destroy the world o...
[14:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Stuck In A Polish Nuclear Weapon Bunker, Cannibal Wood Ants Found The Way Home - 1299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:25] <exec> 08└─+1 informative There is a unified war at the moment AGAINST the people saying 'hey everybody we can sort this out', which is a bummer for me because I am such a person. None of this conflict has any reason behind it, its a bunch of petty faux strongment flicking each other on the underpants while th...
[14:36:36] <exec> count new = 17
[14:36:36] <exec> count top = 1
[14:36:36] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[15:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[15:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916804
[15:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:35] <exec> 08└─"one day of annual profit" ? Is that different than one day's worth of profit?
[15:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:51] <exec> 08└─Ok, so the protesters are probably not well liked. What's it matter?
[15:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 4237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:53] <exec> 08└─In regards to the Chinese voting system, it deserves some consideration. I think a big part of the reason our democratic systems have been failing is because of lowest common denominator issues. Democrats have to promise handouts to people, because it's how they've built their support. Reparations a...
[15:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 1613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:55] <exec> 08└─I think I will choose to be on the side that isn't biting off the ears of their opponents in the street, tough call for many I know. We weren't really prepared for this type of difficult decision in school or any of the books in human history. /s "You know the rulers of the country are truly great a...
[15:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mojibake Tengu [8598] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:27:57] <exec> 08└─Naive western propagandists who promote (and, most obviously, operate) Hong Kong protests are failing to understand two fundamental concepts of Chinese civilization: Huaxia and Tianxia. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] And as...
[15:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 1880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:23] <exec> 08└─What's the one thing you hear again, and again, and AGAIN from all Government agencies concerning their communications? YOU WILL NOT BE CONTACTED FOR PAYMENT BY EMAIL. WE WILL NOT ASK YOUR IDENTITY BY EMAIL. What's the one thing you hear again, and again, and AGAIN from anyone who has half a brain r...
[15:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:24] <exec> 08└─Given the way the vote on this bill turned out, it appears the politicians running against the people we voted in would have done the same thing. Three cheers for a two party system and functionally unlimited campaign donations from corporations.
[15:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:27] <exec> 08└─..continuing... very much in support of bipartisan legislation as well. It used to be proof that the government is still in fact willing to work when in agreement. But sadly that agreement, these days, seems only to occur when both sides have been well bought. My prediction is that this will sail th...
[15:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:29] <exec> 08└─Depends on how it's actually phrased. If it is a 'court', yeah, gone. But there is long precedent to allow administrative agencies to adjudicate matters and allow for administrative fines and penalties to be applied. The key being that there is still the option for judicial oversight of the claim. I...
[15:28:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:31] <exec> 08└─Actually nothing, if the punishment fits the crime. Now, if you can figure out how to vote people into office and not allow big money into the picture to distort the reality field, we'll give you a simultaneous Nobel Peace, Economics, and we'll throw in a Literature Prize too just because it would b...
[15:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:33] <exec> 08└─At least that is the argument put forth here https://www.ipwatchdog.com [ipwatchdog.com]
[15:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:35] <exec> 08└─...when all you had to do to avoid an unconstitutional seizure of your life savings was to not be Black or drive through Texas.
[15:28:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:37] <exec> 08└─The US has the best lawmakers money can buy. The AC on the other hand thinks in terms of constitutionality and legality, because he thinks they apply equally to all in the US, but sadly have been a myth ever since the country was founded.
[15:29:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 183 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:07] <exec> 08└─Because we have this funny notion that the government works for us and not the other way around, so it's none of their fucking business who we are unless there's a warrant out for us.
[15:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:24] <exec> 08└─You're dumb. You're also saying that it's a state-branded national ID.
[15:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:25] <exec> 08└─Interestingly, Norway is number 6 in military spending per capita which makes it number two right after the US if we discount crazy governments. https://www.worldatlas.com [worldatlas.com] Does liberal correlates with militarized?
[15:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03danmars [3662] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 1030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:28] <exec> 08└─My perspective on REAL ID is that it didn't change a whole lot of things; it's primarily a way to bully some lazy states who didn't bother to actually verify who people were, to make them slightly improve the quality of their cards and quit doing crazy things like making them valid for 50 years. A l...
[15:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tokolosh [585] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:30] <exec> 08└─Because we are exceptional, and want to remain that way.
[15:34:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormreaver [5101] 02 - 06House Deals Blow to Millions of Small Businesses by Passing Corporate Transparency Act - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:33] <exec> 08└─...Whenever you hear a bill pass only one chamber (especially in a divided Congress)....
[15:36:56] <exec> count new = 17
[15:36:56] <exec> count top = 2
[15:36:56] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[16:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[16:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916824
[16:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:37] <exec> 08└─Without further diving into TFAs, can I assume of the $60M, $50M were for the claiming attorneys, and $10M are to be paid out to customers, in form of a $2 voucher for each customer, redeemable when signing any 24-month-plan with AT&T?
[16:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:46] <exec> 08└─Sure, the diehard space fans may be making a big deal over this, but to the rest of us it's pretty boring. The first few controlled landings were pretty cool, now they do it so often as to hardly be newsworthy. I wish them great success and for their continued awesomeness to be viewed as boring.
[16:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:59] <exec> 08└─They are clearly tainted by the daj00s for 99 years. Clearly every people should have its own nation and every nation should stick to their own lane.
[16:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03loonycyborg [6905] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:01] <exec> 08└─Current Hong Kong government is direct successor to British colonial administration. It doesn't come from mainland bureaucracy. Yet exactly this government made the decision to ratify those extradition laws that are subject of the riots. Lack of public elections is caused by Britain thinking that Ch...
[16:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 1861 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:03] <exec> 08└─Before hitting on the bill/protests, I think it's relevant to share something. I had an unpleasant epiphany on the coverage of Hong Kong recently when I was trying to find video of the protester shootings. It seemed odd to me that in the era of a protest of a million smartphones, that full in-contex...
[16:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:05] <exec> 08└─Ok, so we have months of protests and you mention out of any useful context a single incident? Well that's how propaganda works. If you've read much of SoylentNews you'll run across criticism of news outlets. They play these games all the time (and get played just as much). That doesn't excuse tyr...
[16:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 1899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:07] <exec> 08└─Something on this topic I've come to realize is that media reporting is useless. You need complete, in context footage. And you need to seek things out rather than passively consuming media. For instance this [rt.com] is a video from today. There was just an overt and seemingly professional assassin...
[16:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 1890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:43] <exec> 08└─This will be used like a weapon by powerful people against their less powerful ideological opponents and will effectively enforce a very fear-based pulbic forum. Wow it is awful. I bet they will have a way to pull it right out of the bank too. Poor people who move, anyone who doesn't have a lawyer,...
[16:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:44] <exec> 08└─"Democracy is the worst form of government...except for all the other ones" is how I've heard it put.
[16:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:46] <exec> 08└─Then we're boned. Not if we vote them out. Nobody is going to save us. We are on our own.
[16:28:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:48] <exec> 08└─*The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.*
[16:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:50] <exec> 08└─An old post from The Other Site I have saved in my files: As a whole, it's not like the police have a great deal of respect for citizens who exercise their rights. So I have to wonder: do they retaliate? Do they suddenly take a really hard look at his driving and see how many things they can charge...
[16:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:53] <exec> 08└─Congress has had no hearings and no debates on so far this session.
[16:29:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:45] <exec> 08└─You might have realized the govt does not work for you personally.
[16:29:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:46] <exec> 08└─Um, no legal nor political science expert here, but USA is a republic, not a democracy, in spite of what is commonly said even by major political figures. Read older political works, speeches, etc.- they always talk about "our republic".
[16:30:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 103 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:57] <exec> 08└─You made the whole fucking epidemic in the first place, and your only response is to make things worse!
[16:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:08] <exec> 08└─This, recruits, is a 20-kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight! Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class Dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Ea...
[16:37:13] <exec> count new = 16
[16:37:13] <exec> count top = 1
[16:37:13] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[17:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[17:26:03] <exec> last cid = 916850
[17:27:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:27] <exec> 08└─But it's only ever going to be used to enforce walled gardens and I hate it due to that reality.
[17:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:29] <exec> 08└─That's not necessarily true. There are many computers that have secure boot features that can't be described as walled gardens. Throw this in there in place of whatever closed Management Engine they use, and you have (probably) improved the situation. Best case scenario, this gets paired with AMD, A...
[17:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:31] <exec> 08└─Don't trust anything with the word "Cambridge" in it, much less Google!
[17:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:33] <exec> 08└─Beat me to it!
[17:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:35] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why "Cambridge" is untrustworthy, but i mostly agree, if they're in a five eyes country, their silicon is less trustworthy. Google/Doubleclick is a huge red flag to me personally. Do they plan on releasing toolchain to build and sign custom firmware for this? I don't see how one can eve...
[17:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:37] <exec> 08└─Yes. But it also can be used to secure your own systems against others. To prevent walled gardens. To prevent corporate injection of crapware. Remember the 2005 SONY Rootkit on an audio CD that installed if you put the CD into your computer?
[17:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:40] <exec> 08└─What if you want to root your phone? Or your computer, or your IOT devices? A lot of us have rooted our devices just to get rid of OEM crapware. I guess if it's really open source maybe we can still hack to improve our own devices...or will we be able to?
[17:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:42] <exec> 08└─To this day, it's still not clear to me what they thought they were going to accomplish with that one.
[17:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:44] <exec> 08└─"We'll see." My guess is that it would never be used in any smartphone except something niche like PinePhone or a crowdfunded phone.
[17:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:46] <exec> 08└─If it is actually open, it could be created by other companies without any involvement from Google.
[17:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aod [7310] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:54] <exec> 08└─Could this be used to create a crystalized structure by applying a current? Say another molecule, that normally would form a liquid, but would become solid under electric charge
[17:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:57] <exec> 08└─Spooky chemical bonds might be harder than an individual ammonia molecule changing shape. And they already used a "very large electric field".
[17:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:11] <exec> 08└─in form of a $2 voucher for each customer, redeemable when signing any 24-month-plan with AT&T?
[17:28:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:13] <exec> 08└─by gum
[17:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:22] <exec> 08└─Falcon 9 is also junk compared to Starship. They want as close to full reusability as possible for their own missions to reduce Starlink costs. But an upper stage is still going to get burnt to a crisp. Testing Starship with Starlink launches is going to get the most bang for their buck. The other n...
[17:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:40] <exec> 08└─Naive western propagandists who promote (and, most obviously, operate) Hong Kong protests
[17:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 1798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:41] <exec> 08└─I think the point of my post is clear. I am not talking about this incident as condemning the protests, but to emphasize that our media coverage is literally less than worthless - it is actively misinforming us. I say this as a pattern because this was obviously not an accident. And I think it's equ...
[17:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:43] <exec> 08└─Yep, when you control the news you can literally get away with murder.
[17:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:25] <exec> 08└─Second verse, outta get better, but it's gonna get worse.
[17:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:19] <exec> 08└─Keep telling yourself that. It's the next step to living in a "papers, please!" country.
[17:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:20] <exec> 08└─Please show me the law that state I have no right to a vehicle. You realize the Bill of Rights does not enumerate your rights, right?
[17:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:22] <exec> 08└─By definition ACs just think it's kewl to write stuff in a little box, click "Submit", and see it published online. Woe dude, awesome! The usefulness of the content is hit-or-miss.
[17:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:46] <exec> 08└─Would you have words to name four dimensions in a simple way?
[17:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Shape Is the Universe? A New Study Suggests We’ve Got It All Wrong - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:47] <exec> 08└─That is interesting. Mind boggling that there would be an infinite number of copies at such average intervals.
[17:37:36] <exec> count new = 24
[17:37:37] <exec> count top = 0
[17:37:37] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[18:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[18:26:04] <exec> last cid = 916877
[18:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:37] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why "Cambridge" is untrustworthy, but i mostly agree, if they're in a five eyes country, their silicon is less trustworthy.
[18:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:39] <exec> 08└─I live in New York City. We used to have leather or rubber straps to hold onto while standing on a train. Now we have steel bars. Literally no one who lives and works in New York City calls MTA riders "straphangers", but for some reason some of the local media insist on using that word. It makes the...
[18:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:03] <exec> 08└─Don't like it...go roll your own. Just don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
[18:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:32] <exec> 08└─Others have commented on who is right and wrong. Putting that aside for a moment, one wonders what is the end game? Hong Kong goes into open revolt; the Chinese military respond; unrest and political violence for decades to come?
[18:28:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 1880 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:59] <exec> 08└─What's the one thing you hear again, and again, and AGAIN from all Government agencies concerning their communications? YOU WILL NOT BE CONTACTED FOR PAYMENT BY EMAIL. WE WILL NOT ASK YOUR IDENTITY BY EMAIL. What's the one thing you hear again, and again, and AGAIN from anyone who has half a brain r...
[18:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:14] <exec> 08└─Actually nothing, if the punishment fits the crime.
[18:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:16] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, it was 410-6, with 16 not voting. Looks like a bipartisan effort to screw over the American people, as bipartisan efforts do the vast majority of the time. You know that when a fair number of Democrats agree with Republicans, something bad is going to happen.
[18:29:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 513 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:33] <exec> 08└─I been saying this shit since back in September of 2001 and everyone's all "Poo poo! They'll never do that, this is America!". Well, here's your lesson for the day. Democrat or Republican, they'll take every bit of power and control over your life that you let them get away with. They got this parti...
[18:29:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 1042 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:57] <exec> 08└─Having a passing familiarity with that lovely country, I'll hazard a guess that the key to their relative success is that their officials, and their population in general, are remarkably uncorrupt and liberal. You wouldn't get the same results with the same system in the USA, or in AU for that matte...
[18:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:13] <exec> 08└─What makes it a big deal is that it removes a huge state right -- self autonomy to license things. There's never been a law saying that California has to allow Texas driver's licenses. That's always been just a courtesy, but that's a'changin. The whole idea of "The United States" is that the states...
[18:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:14] <exec> 08└─I'd say it correlates with being a small country with a relatively tiny population positioned uncomfortably near much larger and historically aggressive military powers, which nonetheless desires to remain independent and in control of their own space.
[18:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:16] <exec> 08└─While You Slept, Government Created a National ID Card
[18:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:30] <exec> 08└─https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-29/shark-tries-to-eat-uwa-underwater-glider-off-perth-yanchep-coast/6813166 [abc.net.au]
[18:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux vs Open Source UNIX - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:22] <exec> 08└─A definite point. There are lots of edge cases, and the LGPL has a wide range of reasonable uses. But it UNIX had been GPL, there never would have been a Linux developed. The LGPL would still be needed for libraries of various sorts. And the BSD + trademark would be needed for interfaces and languag...
[18:37:22] <exec> count new = 11
[18:37:22] <exec> count top = 3
[18:37:22] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[19:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[19:26:04] <exec> last cid = 916898
[19:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:44] <exec> 08└─These are copyright maximalist people. They have their own delusional world. I believe they thought they could get their rootkit onto many PCs and then prevent copyright infringement. The rootkit was intended to prevent ripping audio CDs -- not just SONY's.
[19:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:46] <exec> 08└─Take a swig of hooch and you'll feel better about it.
[19:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cambridge Boffins and Google Unveil OpenTitan, an Open-Source Blueprint for a Root of Trust - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:48] <exec> 08└─That 'non-volatile storage' they mention will have a stage0 bootloader permanently fused into it, like the bootblocks in most ARM SoCs and that per device signatures and checksum/signing of all running code will be required on next generation software and media. Long story short; This will be the en...
[19:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:59] <exec> 08└─Agreed, and terms like "spooky" don't really belong in scientific discussion.
[19:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:01] <exec> 08└─Easy science is already easy to explain or dumb down. Now most of the low hanging fruit is gone and journalists try to kind of dumb down stuff like quantum mechanics. And since it doesn't matter to 99.9% of people, they can just say whatever and get away with it.
[19:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:03] <exec> 08└─Blame Einstein or Einstein worship.
[19:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:06] <exec> 08└─You aren't understanding properly. The math is "solid", and it predicts this kind of reaction. But people live at the macro scale where this kind of reaction cannot be experienced, so when they encounter observable events displaying it, the events don't fit any any accessible model. (Very few people...
[19:28:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chemists Observe “Spooky” Quantum Tunneling - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:08] <exec> 08└─First, Einstein never used "spooky" for tunneling, he used the term for the effect that in quantum mechanics, measuring one system seems to influence a far-away system that no longer is in physical contact with the measured system. Einstein termed that "spooky action at a distance" because he believ...
[19:28:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:25] <exec> 08└─If it ain't broke - don't fix it.
[19:28:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:26] <exec> 08└─You forgot to include "ok boomer".
[19:28:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:28] <exec> 08└─Why should they go to that much trouble? They'll just include a PSA in billing statements that says something bullshit like... "We care about our cunstomers and are raising our data plans an extra 4096 bytes per month"
[19:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:39] <exec> 08└─I haven't thought about it, but you are right about "The Lull". It's been a bit. We're far below last year's launch number.
[19:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:03] <exec> 08└─The opponents of China would like this outcome, as it weakens China. The whole trouble was started with this purpose. People just do not self-organize to protest an insignificant detail of international agreements.
[19:29:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:04] <exec> 08└─Hong Kong demonstrations exhibit no such qualities at all. By a civilization paradigm, they are not Chinese. Why their leaders use biblical (Joshua, Nathan) names?!?? So, to my perception, they are obviously just puppets of the youknowwhom.
[19:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:07] <exec> 08└─People just do not self-organize to protest an insignificant detail of international agreements.
[19:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:18] <exec> 08└─Look at this image: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Some parts will get observed for a lot longer than ~1 month. And that is only the plan for the first 2 years. After that, they could change up the plans and observe a smaller portion of the sky...
[19:29:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 69 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:28] <exec> 08└─Get ready for all the scam/spam letters mimicking these letters then.
[19:29:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:52] <exec> 08└─What a shock. IP lawyers are in favor of more IP laws.
[19:29:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:54] <exec> 08└─This is what the government is doing while everyone is distracted with impeachment.
[19:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:04] <exec> 08└─Yes that lure (1000 years) is going to be too strong for any government to resist. All it will take is a little choppy water on the surface - a national crisis or a world war - and the pipes will go in. Then you'll get your 1000 years of Freedom.
[19:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 1331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:56] <exec> 08└─Your identity is none of the government's business unless required for a legitimate government purpose, and one should not be required to obtain government identification because one is free not to. One may lead a severely limited life without it, but it used to be possible to do so. One might even...
[19:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:57] <exec> 08└─And one has the right to challenge the law in the judiciary. If it indeed removes discovery, then it will be a due process violation and it is only a matter of time until it is struck down. Anyone convicted in the interim where the law change may have played a factor will be turned loose once the la...
[19:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:59] <exec> 08└─Correction... the Heinlein quote is: When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere.
[19:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:02] <exec> 08└─crap... wrong respond to. ;)
[19:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:04] <exec> 08└─Heinlein: When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere.
[19:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:06] <exec> 08└─Agreed, except, again no expert, but I thought "republic" meant we have representatives (and senators), rather than "direct" democracy. And in USA case, the representatives are "democratically elected"*. *Is there any other kind of election? OK, maybe one where the already in place officials elect n...
[19:32:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03conn8d [6887] (Score: 1) 02 - 06In-Brain Electrodes Are the Latest Weapon Against Opioid Addiction - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:23] <exec> 08└─What happened to "just saying no?" That campaign worked extremelly well on the 80's and 90's, no reason it wouldn't work today! https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:38:15] <exec> count new = 26
[19:38:15] <exec> count top = 1
[19:38:15] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[20:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[20:26:04] <exec> last cid = 916932
[20:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:25] <exec> 08└─if it's round why give it's dimensions as 7.5 x 7.5 x 2mm? Wouldn't it be better to say it's a 7.5 cm diameter disk 2mm thick? Or I dunno, there aren't any pictures. Maybe it is a glass square.
[20:27:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:26] <exec> 08└─Almost big enough for a modern video game! I can't wait to see what the final capacity will be when it finally hits the consumer market.
[20:27:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:29] <exec> 08└─Lasts forever, until you drop it.
[20:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:31] <exec> 08└─Did they forget that glass window panes over a couple hundred years old are thicker at the bottom because of gravity?
[20:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:33] <exec> 08└─The electronics and knowledge to read it does not.
[20:27:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:35] <exec> 08└─That never happened.
[20:27:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:37] <exec> 08└─Is this just the next step in the CD->DVD->Blueray iteration of technologies or is there something actually different other than switching from plastic to glass?
[20:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:39] <exec> 08└─Just print microfiche on it. At most you need a strong magnifying glass to read it. Audio wave forms should endure the ages also
[20:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:41] <exec> 08└─Just put a stone instruction manual next to the storage box.
[20:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:44] <exec> 08└─They didn't forget it, because it isn't true. There are places that have been found where the thicker part is at the top. The way they manufactured glass back in the Middle Ages was different than we do now, so there was some amount of flowing as it was cooling, not after. And mounting the panes thi...
[20:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:46] <exec> 08└─This is a niche area of the market. Personally, I thought it beyond corporate thought patterns to actually care enough about things like archival storage. There's a difference between, saying you have an archives, then filling it with film/tape of some sort and actually thinking about how that film/...
[20:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 1187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:48] <exec> 08└─There's no pressing need to create new generations of 12 cm discs anymore. We might see new standards beyond Ultra HD Blu-ray [wikipedia.org] and BDXL [soylentnews.org], but I doubt it. This is about creating WORM or cold storage with as much capacity as possible using technologies like holography....
[20:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03rufty [381] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:50] <exec> 08└─But will this last long enough for the copyright to expire?
[20:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:52] <exec> 08└─75GB? Why that's only 25% less than a 100GB M-DISC [amazon.com]. But then, M-DISC uses a glassy-carbon surface which only lasts thousands of years, so, completely different.
[20:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:54] <exec> 08└─Looks like a rectangle to me in the Variety story attachment where someone is holding a glass recording object in their hand. That page's title is also where "glass disc" comes from. This is the state of journalism.
[20:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:56] <exec> 08└─That's not true. I was told that before too, that glass is still a "supercooled liquid" and as such will still flow (albeit slowly). Then someone on slashdot posted several articles about why that isn't true, and they were pretty interesting to read.
[20:28:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 33 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:44] <exec> 08└─If it ain't broke - don't fix it.
[20:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:06] <exec> 08└─Elon once mentioned that the Fairings were about $6 million per flight, out of a $62 million per flight sticker price. If they can reuse these then it's a nice bump to the per-flight margin. Sidebar: I feel like they are betting the farm on Starship. It's like the field of dreams "build it and they...
[20:29:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 1262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:07] <exec> 08└─SpaceX’s first Falcon 9 launch in months gets a launch date [teslarati.com] SpaceX’s first Falcon 9 launch in more than three months finally has a launch date and it looks like the company’s growing fleet is going to attempt to catch (or land) almost every piece of the rocket, a big first for...
[20:29:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 1795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:10] <exec> 08└─I'd say the bigger bet is Starlink. Although they say they can begin operating with only a fraction of the planned constellation, my guess is that they will spend no less than $5 billion on Starlink under the current plans. 50,000 satellites * $100,000. Remember, the initial satellites will have to...
[20:29:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Urges 'Tougher Line' in Hong Kong after Attack on Xinhua - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:36] <exec> 08└─I read an interesting piece online a few months ago (which I can't find now) which made the point that the US does not have a state-run media, then posed the question that if they did, how would it look any different from what you have now? Not that I am claiming my country is any different. One of...
[20:29:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Panorama Reveals Starry Glory of the Southern Sky - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:50] <exec> 08└─That is not NASA's fault. If politicians did not use NASA's budget as a tool to get re-elected, NASA would no doubt have a Moon base by now.
[20:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:25] <exec> 08└─And the bill was sponsored by a Democrat no less
[20:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:27] <exec> 08└─Jerks on both sides will take any opportunity they can to push through crap like this. That's why the really bad stuff is hidden deep inside of unrelated bills, and it happens from both Rs and Ds.
[20:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:29] <exec> 08└─The trick there is that there has to be someone to vote in as well who's worthy. But I fear all we will have are choices between lizards.
[20:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:35] <exec> 08└─Well stated. I'm always worried when I hear of laws that remove basic rights, due process, etc. I don't like that the police will drag someone away in handcuffs solely on one person's say-so, for example. You've given me some hope, thank you.
[20:31:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bmimatt [5050] (Score: 1) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:37] <exec> 08└─This looks like it is about work eligibility. Here's what CA DMV requires, other than to show up in person: https://realid.dmv.ca.gov [ca.gov]
[20:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:39] <exec> 08└─It's not a courtesy. Full Faith And Credit is Article IV Section 1 of the United States Constitution. (If one has a marriage license in State A, State B must respect the couple is married. A driver's license in State A entitiles one to operate a motor vehicle in State B). It has its thorny issues as...
[20:31:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:41] <exec> 08└─While You Slept, Government Created a framework to coordinate and respect the ID's issued by states who did so consistent with the real ID standard.
[20:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:43] <exec> 08└─Link [dhs.gov]. Q: Will minors need to have driver's licenses/ identification cards to fly domestically? No. TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling with a companion within the United States. The companion will need acceptable identification. Q: What happens t...
[20:37:54] <exec> count new = 29
[20:37:54] <exec> count top = 1
[20:37:54] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[21:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[21:26:04] <exec> last cid = 916980
[21:27:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 33 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:29] <exec> 08└─Lasts forever, until you drop it.
[21:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:43] <exec> 08└─Recordable Blu Ray discs aren't designed to store precious archives in libraries. When I decided what to use to archive my home video projects' source files, I decided on Blu Ray, with the understanding that recordable DVDs last maybe 5 to 20 years, and if you write two copies and verify often enoug...
[21:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:45] <exec> 08└─No spoilers, In the third book they needed a way to record information over eons and settled on: carve it in stone
[21:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Common Joe [33] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:47] <exec> 08└─Wow. I'm one of the lucky 10,000 today. Thank you.
[21:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:49] <exec> 08└─There's a niche demand for storage with a 1,000+ year lifetime. That's perfect for stunts like putting a "Library of Alexandria" on the Moon, but it's also good to have something you can stick in a box unpowered for decades without experiencing any data loss. You can't do that with a penta-level cel...
[21:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:51] <exec> 08└─It's a "proof of concept". You should be comparing it to this thing [wikipedia.org].
[21:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:53] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc [wikipedia.org] In computing and optical disc recording technologies, an optical disc (OD) is a flat, usually circular disc
[21:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:55] <exec> 08└─Not after the Mouse gets wind of it.
[21:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:58] <exec> 08└─Pity the video games won't work in thousands of years' time because the servers needed for the always-on authentication DRM will no longer exist; unless of course the corporations are charitable enoughconsider it profitable to encode the servers on glass as well or go DRM-free.
[21:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:00] <exec> 08└─The ones that were thicker at the top are that way because the earth is flat and it was located near the edge.
[21:28:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:02] <exec> 08└─You just store the cracked version: https://www.geek.com [geek.com] https://www.techspot.com [techspot.com] If no crack, you consider it lost to history.
[21:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:04] <exec> 08└─Since TFA mentions the use of error-correcting codes this is unlikely to be a microfiche-like storage medium. Many years ago I read about a project which did store microfiche-like images on glass, along with instructions on how to use it translated into many languages, which was visible as large tex...
[21:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:36] <exec> 08└─I posted in another thread that we need to hunt down qualified people ourselves and put them under the Sword of Damocles, like jury duty. People that want the job are rarely, if ever, qualified. Whatever, the outcome, lizards or otherwise, is always determined by the voters.
[21:30:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:43] <exec> 08└─called a 6 week stop on Saturday ... due to fears it could cost votes in marginal constituencies in an unsurprising U-turn just weeks before a general election Fixed that for you
[21:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:48] <exec> 08└─No cognitive dissonance is necessary unless you don't see a difference between traveling freely within a country and participating in its elections.
[21:31:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:50] <exec> 08└─quit doing crazy things like making them valid for 50 years
[21:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:52] <exec> 08└─More to the point, everybody who has been to college knows the market for fake driver's licenses, to get alcohol among other things. They also know how easy it has historically been to make.
[21:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Roomba of the Sea to Target Lionfish - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:07] <exec> 08└─Hahaha, love that movie. I was just showing my age apparently!
[21:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Pledges $2.5 Billion to Help Address California's Affordable Housing Crisis - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:49] <exec> 08└─Then raising house prices cannot be cited as a proof for the hypothesis of "money injection into new houses will increase house prices."
[21:36:19] <exec> count new = 17
[21:36:19] <exec> count top = 2
[21:36:19] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[22:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[22:26:04] <exec> last cid = 917003
[22:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Lawmakers Introduce Tough Privacy Bill to Regulate Top Social Media Platforms - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:18] <exec> 08└─The government will make things better! Just like the story about how great the FTC is a couple before this one.
[22:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Lawmakers Introduce Tough Privacy Bill to Regulate Top Social Media Platforms - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:20] <exec> 08└─The Ministry of Truthiness
[22:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Lawmakers Introduce Tough Privacy Bill to Regulate Top Social Media Platforms - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:22] <exec> 08└─There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved by a new government regulation or tax, or several.
[22:27:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Lawmakers Introduce Tough Privacy Bill to Regulate Top Social Media Platforms - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:24] <exec> 08└─There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved by a new government regulation or tax, or several.
[22:27:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Lawmakers Introduce Tough Privacy Bill to Regulate Top Social Media Platforms - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:26] <exec> 08└─Government is like a hammer: it can make things better, or worse. The only people who are actually wrong are the ones who say it always does one or the other.
[22:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:00] <exec> 08└─Ah, this was it: http://rosettaproject.org [rosettaproject.org] In this case the images were actually etched on a nickel substrate and then encased in glass.
[22:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:02] <exec> 08└─Disks, especially blank business card sized CD-R disks [amazon.com] can be rectangular. Square disks. These were fun back in the day. There was a distribution, DSL, I think that was designed to fit into the capacity of this small CD-R.
[22:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:04] <exec> 08└─Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years
[22:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:06] <exec> 08└─I want the data crystals from Babylon 5. Talia : What was he, and what was on that data crystal he gave you? Kosh : Reflection, surprise, terror... for the future.
[22:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:08] <exec> 08└─If you can only fit ten commandments on it, that is rather low data density. No room for a few million additional commandments.
[22:28:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:11] <exec> 08└─Will 75.6 GB be enough to hold the next version of Windows?
[22:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:12] <exec> 08└─ok millenial.
[22:29:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:13] <exec> 08└─Engineer's motto: If it ain't broke, then fix it 'till it is.
[22:29:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Pays $60 Million To Settle Claims It Lied About Unlimited Data Plan - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:15] <exec> 08└─buy gum?
[22:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:29] <exec> 08└─Falcon 9 is also junk compared to Starship.
[22:29:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:30] <exec> 08└─But Falcon 9 makes money and launches payloads today.
[22:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The House Votes in Favor of Disastrous Copyright Bill - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:51] <exec> 08└─How come an AC like you knows this but the lawmakers don't?...
[22:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jay [8679] (Score: 1) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:06] <exec> 08└─So yeah, they want some standards for IDs that states give out if you're going to fly on a plane. And those standards are pretty low, at least in my state. Proof of identity, residency in the state, and some proxy for citizenship, either W-4 or social security card. My wife actually went and got her...
[22:32:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jay [8679] (Score: 1) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:07] <exec> 08└─So your preference is that IDs issued by one state not be respected in another state? Fucking brilliant! That means the only nationally accepted ID would be.....a US Passport. Which is exactly what you're railing on against.
[22:36:36] <exec> count new = 19
[22:36:36] <exec> count top = 0
[22:36:36] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********
[23:26:03] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[23:26:04] <exec> last cid = 917023
[23:27:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Material Increases Volume by 100% in When Electrified - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:21] <exec> 08└─Fix the headline
[23:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:13] <exec> 08└─Sure, it is breakable if you try hard enough, admitted Rowstron. “If you take a hammer to it, you can smash glass.” But absent of such brute force, the medium promises to be very, very safe, he argued: “I feel very confident in it.” From the article.
[23:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Stores 75.6 GB on Glass Disc Designed to Last Thousands of Years - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:15] <exec> 08└─you are you calling square, disc hipster.
[23:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX to Reuse Payload Fairing for First Time on Nov. 11 Launch - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:33] <exec> 08└─The Starship, and the Super Heavy launcher both have a lot more surface area for advertisements.
[23:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fracking Halted in England Over Earthquake Fears - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:05] <exec> 08└─Exploding the ground causes the earth to shake? whoaaaa 'if we just randomly destabilize the ground everything is built on, we will have unlimted energy! We promise nothing will go wrong but if it does, contact our lawyers in panama.' garbage people can ruin anything, even dirt, if told will increas...
[23:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While You Slept, Government Created Internal Passports - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:11] <exec> 08└─I seriously doubt they can resist such powers with any level of military. If they do take it seriously, they should have develop and deploy nuclear weapons. Therefore I suspect they use the power to keep the population in check. Not directly, mind you, but by using propaganda: "join the army or else...
[23:34:59] <exec> count new = 6
[23:34:59] <exec> count top = 0
[23:34:59] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********