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[00:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:53] <exec> 08└─Eliza lives! [wikipedia.org]
[00:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:54] <exec> 08└─AI takes away most jobs. The unemployed masses need psychiatrists or they will shoot up buildings. But they don't trust AI psychiatrists because AI put them out of work. So meatbag psychiatrists resist the AI incursion and get to keep their jobs.
[00:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:57] <exec> 08└─I very doubt failing synthetic personalities could be cured (or, treated?) by chemical substances. This age is the end of psychiatry, just like as of many other barbaric paradigms.
[00:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:32:59] <exec> 08└─The cure is of course hallucinogens, which are banned. Cures aren't moneymakers. Treatments are.
[00:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:01] <exec> 08└─In what way does Eliza remind you of your mother?
[00:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pav [114] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:12] <exec> 08└─BTW, that's not to say the majority of Iranians are pro religious dictatorship... they've just seen what puppet governments of the USA do to their people also. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place... but this isn't new. The only reason the religious dictatorship managed to stay in power i...
[00:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 1173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:15] <exec> 08└─Iran has committed the heinous crime of having oil and not just giving it away to oil companies based in the UK and USA. That's also the reason behind the push to overthrow the government of Venezuela yet again. And also related to this simple cause of controlling the fossil fuels is Syria's civil w...
[00:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:17] <exec> 08└─Uranium occurs naturally in rocks, and it's not even enriched, see. Plausible deniability says the trace amounts of uranium are totally unintentional.
[00:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:19] <exec> 08└─"Wishful thinking" that map. Reality: Afghanistan - out of control - talibans are still a reality to be negotiated with [bbc.com]. This after 18 years of US presence in the region.Turkey - sliding out of control - receives and will use Russian missiles [theguardian.com]. After an US show of tantrum,...
[00:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:21] <exec> 08└─Persia is a very ancient civilization, unlike the United States. To me, as an unbiased observer, the whole situations looks alike to immature, greed driven, indecently rich teenager bullying an old poor woman...
[00:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:43] <exec> 08└─Can they erase it with a flash bulb thingy? Get it? C'mon, people! How about a *three strikes and you're neuralized* law?
[00:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06All Comets In The Solar System Might Come From The Same Place - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:55] <exec> 08└─According Amorosa's book, his odd face and hair tint are due his lack of patience to apply the tinting products correctly.
[00:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Shire [5824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:11] <exec> 08└─This is nothing more than marketing for IBM's "Talent & Transformation" business. AI is still lagging far behind the average human in terms of functionality and more importantly rapid adaptability on the job. No one needs to start to panic yet and probably not for another decade or more. Remember k...
[00:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:39] <exec> 08└─I am an industry insider with this, I believe the figure is a density of being able to handle 1 million devices per square kilometer, 20 Gbps per device downlink speed with 10 Gbps uplink speed for ideal connections. Of course the real truth is that 5G is being totally improvised in a ridiculously h...
[00:37:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06India Locates Lander Lost on Final Approach to Moon - 618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:13] <exec> 08└─Sorted by inverse likelihood - Was hit by an asteroid (I have seen lunar lander next to asteroids in many arcades) - Israel did it (so that their bereshit gone to sh!t mission wasn't a lonely failure) - the USA did it (lest they uncover the fake moon landing conspiracy by discovering a radically dif...
[00:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06India Locates Lander Lost on Final Approach to Moon - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:45] <exec> 08└─Indians, as well as Russians, use mostly Windows. See, they trust in capitalism, not in some community open "nix" or "ism". No, I am not joking.
[00:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gigantic Raft of Volcanic Rock is Drifting Toward Australia. That Could be Good News. - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:59] <exec> 08└─"IT WILL BE A GREAT, GREAT BARRIER!"
[00:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:30] <exec> 08└─Hmmm, person I used to work with would come visit our headquarters periodically (~15 years back.) We called each other ignorant redneck and damned yankee respectively. It was pretty funny and always got us both smiling.
[00:40:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Shire [5824] 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:40:23] <exec> 08└─What I'm hearing you say is: "Everyone's privacy is already compromised so it's ok for Mozilla to do it too". Nope, not buyin that one. People who originally jumped on with Firefox did so because they are privacy conscious. They may not know how to stop all the other avenues tracking them but they s...
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[01:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:57] <exec> 08└─Smartphones and wearable sensors offer people the ability to monitor themselves
[01:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:32:59] <exec> 08└─This age is the end of psychiatry, just like as of many other barbaric paradigms.
[01:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:02] <exec> 08└─> So meatbag psychiatrists resist the AI incursion and get to keep their jobs. ... Unfortunately, very few people can afford to pay the meatbag psychiatrists (since most of the people are jobless). The meatbag psychiatrists will have to compete for the few clients that have some money and the rest o...
[01:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:04] <exec> 08└─Both are old and feeble...
[01:33:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:06] <exec> 08└─Are psychiatrists also ready for when the AI needs counseling?
[01:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:08] <exec> 08└─Are psychiatrists really ready for the AI revolution?
[01:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:10] <exec> 08└─I haven't met one yet who didn't go into the profession to try to understand why they, personally, are so messed up, and any time I've been in session with one (can count on fingers of one hand, but...) they, personally, are in much worse shape than I am for the things I'm there for "help" with. If...
[01:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:13] <exec> 08└─Big Data peddling their bullshit AI solutions
[01:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:15] <exec> 08└─The meatbag psychiatrists will have to compete for the few clients that have some money and the rest of them will be poor.
[01:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:17] <exec> 08└─Something smells goooood... Could it be? My favorite dish, Swedish human meatballs?
[01:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:19] <exec> 08└─The respondents clearly felt that machines could never learn some skills. "An overwhelming majority (83 per cent) of respondents felt it unlikely that future technology would ever be able to provide empathic care as well as or better than the average psychiatrist," say Doraiswamy and colleagues. Int...
[01:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:22] <exec> 08└─Eliza? Hah! I would appreciate it if you would continue. [Real answer from Emacs' doctor]
[01:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:24] <exec> 08└─The cure is of course hallucinogens, which are banned.
[01:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:39] <exec> 08└─And then Canada?
[01:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:40] <exec> 08└─Persia *was* an ancient civilization, before it was overrun with kebabs. Now it is another Muslim infested shithole.
[01:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:42] <exec> 08└─Evil manly U.S. licks up the scared Persian milf? Me gusta.
[01:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:44] <exec> 08└─18 years? Someone forgets the U.S. assistance during the Russian occupation. That was presence also even if it was not physical and along cold war lines. But to have all the other entities around colored singly, as if the U.S. is perfectly in control of them? Yeah, you're right, reality is much mess...
[01:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:47] <exec> 08└─Did you miss... "discovered in Tehran facility" Anybody that thinks they're not building (at least) dirty bombs or selling it to some Islam group is a moron.
[01:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:49] <exec> 08└─Oh. 18-ish years for Us messing around with the Taliban. Yeah, dopey me. But we've been meddling in Afghanistan before the Taliban got control...
[01:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:51] <exec> 08└─Giving it to "an Islam group" is highly unlikely for various reasons. Not least of which is they wouldn't want to be knocked off by said unnamed group it is given to; they're not that dumb. Building bombs? Maybe. Heard a couple of opinions in the news lately that they could be about a year away. And...
[01:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:53] <exec> 08└─Poor old woman or witch that claims to be reformed? Pillars of human heads and skin to signify what happens to those who oppose the empire.
[01:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:56] <exec> 08└─Actually, it isn't an exaggeration to say that US created the Talibans [wikipedia.org].
[01:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:19] <exec> 08└─A flashbulb capacitor discharged to the temples should work. I know for sure they'll kick you backwards about 3 feet and knock you out cold if you touch a charged one.
[01:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06All Comets In The Solar System Might Come From The Same Place - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:32] <exec> 08└─Is that place called Klandathu with giant bugs on it? Service guarantees citizenship!
[01:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:48] <exec> 08└─No matter what election year you pick, you can make it interesting. 2024 is obviously Yang getting it after Trump's second term. 2028 is after Trump's third term. 2032 could be another Trump term, but with a couple years of Pence, 8 years of Julián Castro, then Yang.
[01:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:49] <exec> 08└─I've never done manufacturing management, but yes I can see that both QC is a real area of concern and it takes a very sharp pencil to figure out what an acceptable wasteage rate is - if getting 5% less waste results in 50% higher production costs then it might not be that good a deal. And I could a...
[01:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:19] <exec> 08└─Do you have any actual evidence that the EMF is killing insects or causing other harm? Or is this one of those, "it feels like the two are correlated" things?
[01:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:45] <exec> 08└─Yes! They just have to rename the company to something like Lindo^H^H^H^H^H Mindows!
[01:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:46] <exec> 08└─I was talked into staying. I agree that the fact you can no longer post walls of spam was sufficient. Moderation here works differently - get enough spam posts and your IP is banned. Looks like you've wrecked your last site. And slashdot seems to be doing much better without you. You spent weeks h...
[01:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 1655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:48] <exec> 08└─They don't have to appear to have an idea of what a business is, if they think that (as per their bullet points) that they want to be professional. Creating a corporation doesn't make magic pixie dust that blesses everything it touches with professionalism. Professionalism is knowledge+execution, n...
[01:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:12] <exec> 08└─Unless the Chickasaw you are arguing is a woman, there's no point to argue with in the first place (their heredity rights are matrilineal).
[01:40:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:13] <exec> 08└─You can't win an argument with any woman though, so that's redundant.
[01:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:15] <exec> 08└─There probably is something to be said about my mental state in relation to perl coding. I mean, if you can read most anything written by people who were undoubtedly on lots of drugs and in a language whose unofficial motto is "there's always another way to do it" then you've probably got way too mu...
[01:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:51] <exec> 08└─"Antivirus software does not override your network settings."
[01:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Shire [5824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:52] <exec> 08└─You must admit this discussion is getting a little tedious. I think we understand each others positions. I don't believe for a moment that Mozilla or Cloudflare's motivations are any more than finding ways to improve their market share, data mine as much of the nets traffic as possible, and of cours...
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[02:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:32:54] <exec> 08└─They're also providing pictures of people's faces to the FBI, so that they can be added to their facial recognition database, ensuring that mass surveillance becomes easier and more effective. I mean, why not sell all of our data to private entities? We're already destroying privacy and democracy on...
[02:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:32:55] <exec> 08└─Just bidness. :)
[02:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:32:57] <exec> 08└─My friend's father was a retired police officer who then worked at a DMV after getting stabbed. He came up with the idea to mail people their new IDs instead of giving them out at the DMV to cut down on fraud. The government waited until he retired from the DMV then stole his idea so they didn't hav...
[02:32:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03optotronic [4285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:00] <exec> 08└─The state requires us to provide the information so we can drive or have identification, then they sell it?! We have no other option, other than moving, perhaps. How is this tolerable? I haven't read the article because I get a 404 page on the article link. Maybe if I allowed the 22 referenced domai...
[02:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:02] <exec> 08└─When you have the US government?
[02:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:04] <exec> 08└─" My friend's father was a retired police officer who then worked at a DMV after getting stabbed. "
[02:33:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:06] <exec> 08└─Shill, troll or in-numerate? From http://worldpopulationreview.com [worldpopulationreview.com] Rhode Island Population 2019 1,056,738 $384,000 / 1,056,738 = $0.363 per resident. I'd rather have my data than my 36 cents.
[02:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:08] <exec> 08└─Don't you put on Kiss style make-up before having your DMV photo taken?
[02:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 1820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:33] <exec> 08└─Back in 2017, the UN announced that it was time to stop the medicalization of mental illnesses such as depression. See United Nations Statement criticizes medicalization of depression [madinamerica.com]. The "chemical imbalance" claim for depression has never been definitively proven, even though...
[02:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:35] <exec> 08└─1. Both are dead. 2. In the end neither of them were able to adapt to modern society. 3. I wouldn't ask either for life advice.
[02:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:37] <exec> 08└─It's even more simple than that. You can't expect a machine to manage sympathy or even empathy enough to understand where you're coming from, so why would you talk to one? They may not even know why they're reluctant but you can bet your sweet bippy that head shrinking shall remain the province of h...
[02:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 1231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:39] <exec> 08└─The cure is to fix the underlying problem, whether it's social isolation, unemployment, social stigma, discrimination, sequelae of violence, hate, etc. You'd be amazed at how many people are suffering a lack of self-worth because of the current gig economy, which was caused by big tech. Ditto the p...
[02:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:42] <exec> 08└─Well, since everyone is screwed up in some way, I would expect that would also include shrinks. Not to defend current practice, which is majorly fucked up, centered around medicalizing normal states of mind. Lost your job? Here, have a pill instead of job counseling. You'll still be unemployed, and...
[02:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:06] <exec> 08└─I mean, if having nukes or trying to make them is a reason to invade a country, then the US (and many other countries) should be invaded as well. To make matters even more hypocritical, the US is the only country to actually use them, and they killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in doing so. I...
[02:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:07] <exec> 08└─Alberta is pretty much giving away [www.cbc.ca] their oil and gas, British Columbia is giving away their water, until those change, why bother with an expensive war?
[02:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:09] <exec> 08└─I've seen this movie before. The original was bad enough. But, like all the recent Hollywood remakes, this looks worse than the original.
[02:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06All Comets In The Solar System Might Come From The Same Place - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:46] <exec> 08└─Since this is Slashdot, and an astronomy article at that, I feel entitled to flex my pedantry: When giving an SI temperature, the word "kelvin" is pluralized. It's not "21 to 28 Kelvin", but properly "21 to 28 kelvins", or "21 to 28 K" if you are using the abbreviation for the unit. https://en.m.wik...
[02:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Lyft Creates Hyper-Accurate Maps From Open-Source Maps and Real-Time Data - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:56] <exec> 08└─You are not required to tell anyone your corrections, but if you distribute the corrected dataset then you must do it under the same free license and attribution as the original.
[02:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ron [5774] (Score: 1) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:05] <exec> 08└─The problem with taxing AI or robots is the definition of what an AI or robot is. Is an answering machine that can differentiate incoming calls an AI? What about an automatic transmission? Here's a thought-- To do work requires energy, including "intellectual" work. That's why computers get hot. Don...
[02:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:36] <exec> 08└─Generally there are no ceilings outside to interfere with the signal.
[02:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:05] <exec> 08└─It looks like being second on the Distrowatch page hit ranking table does not confer quite as much fame as I thought it did. :-) It is a start. They might wind up the next Redhat, or as you say, they might go the way of Mandrake. Time will tell.
[02:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06India Locates Lander Lost on Final Approach to Moon - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:46] <exec> 08└─Well I guess you just wait for your betters to tell you what to think then, and therefore always be behind the curve.
[02:40:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:35] <exec> 08└─You can't win an argument with any woman though
[02:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:36] <exec> 08└─Yes, TMB, I can understand* why you are the way you are. I'm even able to empathize** with you, within reasonable*** limits. Mind you, the absolute reality of about the above: it simply doesn't mean that I have to accept it anytime, and even less every-time. (grin) --- * as in the rational type of u...
[02:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:38] <exec> 08└─My culture's what I say it is, same as everyone else's. I ain't putting on a loincloth and dancing around with feathers on just cause you palefaces think I oughta cause we did many long times ago. I might, mind you, but I'd be doing it for a laugh rather than taking myself seriously.
[02:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:40] <exec> 08└─I might, mind you, but I'd be doing it for a laugh rather than taking myself seriously.
[02:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:18] <exec> 08└─My youth is so far behind me that I can happily discount that as a cause of my finding your comment offensive. I'm retired now. However, the original phrase was intended to be an insult to the working class. [phrases.org.uk] This rather disparaging term was coined by the Victorian novelist and playw...
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[03:32:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:50] <exec> 08└─Now you need WikiLeaks for someone to leak another batch of 'fiscal-paradise papers'.
[03:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:32:51] <exec> 08└─I trust these corporations to safely and effectively vaxxinate me!!!
[03:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I did, and it replied, "Oohh-ee-ooh-ah-ah, ting tang walla-walla bing bang. Oohh-ee-ooh-ah-ah, ting tang walla-walla bing bang!"
[03:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03kramulous [255] (Score: 1) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:04] <exec> 08└─Thank you two for saying that. I've thought I was going crazy since I am yet to see AI/ML work in a single instance. The excuse has always been "We just need more training data". And the executive level lap that shit up.
[03:36:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Vegan and Vegetarian Diets 'Link to Higher Stroke Risk' - 309 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:22] <exec> 08└─Drinking cheap red wine and eating pasta soaked in olive oil every day doesn't make you healthy. Taking the afternoon off to walk around and talk with friends every day, while not consuming deep fried foods and also not avoiding all physical activity, gets you most of the benefit of the Mediterranea...
[03:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:04] <exec> 08└─You are way too coherent to be the real APK.
[03:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:05] <exec> 08└─Page hits are a shitty way to count popularity. How many stay installed? How many even get downloaded, never mind booted? I grabbed more than half a dozen distressed a few months ago - only one survived testing, and it's not as good as any of the distros 5 years ago. I'm not impressed.
[03:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:07] <exec> 08└─Hence the smiley face. Relax, you'll live longer.
[03:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chocolate [8044] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:20] <exec> 08└─Are you serious? Minimum 8, probably a 9 Also, that looks to be the wrong ethicality for Takky Is this a dnsoverhttps test?
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[04:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:32:56] <exec> 08└─I want to see Purdue's (the company) assets auctioned off to the highest bidders. Then I want to see Purdue's (the family) assets auctioned off to the highest bidders. And, I want to see the Sackler's assets auctioned off the same way. Yeah, I do understand that corporations are created to protect t...
[04:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:32:57] <exec> 08└─These are job creators you're talking about. Are you off your meds?
[04:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:32:59] <exec> 08└─What good does that do? Nobody gives a shit.
[04:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:01] <exec> 08└─Who are these people? The Taliban? There should be indictments, not dialog! The corruption is really getting thick, just a little too obvious... and still, they will win
[04:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:04] <exec> 08└─No - small businesses are job creators. Big corporations are job eliminators.
[04:33:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:06] <exec> 08└─What good does that do?
[04:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:56] <exec> 08└─1. Both are dead.
[04:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Coward, Anonymous [7017] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:58] <exec> 08└─Spot on. But there is one kind of depression where pills do help. If you know you have a chronic bacterial infection, but physicians don't take you seriously, it can be pretty depressing. Antibiotics will do wonders though.
[04:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:00] <exec> 08└─You can't expect a machine to manage sympathy or even empathy enough to understand where you're coming from
[04:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:27] <exec> 08└─Surely there are some left?
[04:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Lyft Creates Hyper-Accurate Maps From Open-Source Maps and Real-Time Data - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:16] <exec> 08└─Not at all, in fact quite the opposite. They don't particulalrly like mechanically generated changes that have not been generated by sentient on-the-ground contributors. E.g. https://techcrunch.com and the related OSM discussion itself: https://forum...
[04:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:26] <exec> 08└─A CNC machine costs anywhere from $60k to a million, is useful for 20-30 years, and can work 24 hours 365 days a year if you keep it loaded and maintained (realistically 80-90% utilization is normal.) A $50k/year employee costs around $80k a year, every year, assuming they don't break anything, with...
[04:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:28] <exec> 08└─Heavy machinery doesn't have to cost a million dollars. You can get an entry level CNC Mill for around $60k. You program it, set it up, and hire someone off the street to swap parts and hit the green button. Or you can have a robot swap parts for about another $60k.
[04:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:30] <exec> 08└─My Dad worked in a factory making little lock parts. took pride in keeping tolerances under a thou when a couple of thou was called for. Made $25 an hour + good benefits and the company was profitable. Job got outsourced to Phoenix, with the first free trade agreement, $8 an hour workers who didn't...
[04:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:38:00] <exec> 08└─Yup, more nanocells, and perhaps finally we can begin the mass cohort studies we need to ascertain the safety of these mm waves. Happy to see tens of thousands of volunteers for the pilot studies.
[04:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manjaro Linux Forms a Company - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:38:34] <exec> 08└─they might go the way of Mandrake.
[04:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chocolate [8044] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:46] <exec> 08└─Try https://ipleak.net [ipleak.net] It probably already does so via WebRTC
[04:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Firefox Begins Enabling DNS-over-HTTPS for Users - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:47] <exec> 08└─I can't access whirlpool.net.au anymore due to cloudfarce Assholes.
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[05:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:32:54] <exec> 08└─It is not Python2 plus new and better. It sounds as Python3 was a scratch start building something looks simular to Python2, but is not. Great way to keep your user base. Convert or Died. I use equipment that even if the program was written in 70's it will still compile and work. IT has gone through...
[05:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 1326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:32:56] <exec> 08└─Python2 doesn't have native unicode support, handles it badly in many existing cases, as well as a variety of math function issues due to being overly ambiguous in the original implementation. They have the Compat23 module or whatever it is called for working with python2 code on python3 or python3...
[05:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03EJ [2452] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:12] <exec> 08└─Yeah. Mom and Pop pharmaceutical companies are awesome. The police call them meth labs.
[05:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, my first thought was that the bankruptcy was a sham. Sure, the company is dead. But the owners skate. That's S.O.P. in the mining business. Dig up a whole lot of rock, siphon off the small percentage that's worth something and cash in on that, making sure none of the profit goes to the mining...
[05:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:15] <exec> 08└─What Purdue and the rest did wasn't right but I think this misses the point. People do drugs for their mental health. People are lonely and bored with not a lot of options. When people become lonely and there is nothing else to do but watch TV, they do drugs en masse. Does bankrupting Purdue help...
[05:36:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 1116 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:16] <exec> 08└─Yes, it WAS cheaper, by a long margin. Today, Chinese wages are rising, cutting that margin. There is another consideration. Chinese products are notoriously shoddy, with little to no quality control. Our parent company took away some of our more lucrative work, almost ten years ago. First one, then...
[05:36:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:35] <exec> 08└─Something the "taxes are bad" crowd will demonize, probably successfully.
[05:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:36] <exec> 08└─Plus they've been smearing FUD for years (here [soylentnews.org] and here [soylentnews.org]). My take is that this whole thing is just vaporware with a small potential user base where the cost of labor exceeds the cost of the IBM ball and chain.
[05:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:39] <exec> 08└─Being abused. No fun kicking a Roomba, whereas kicking the maid and otherwise abusing her, along with her knowledge that there are hundreds of applicants for her job...
[05:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:41] <exec> 08└─Oh, and an important thought is that in a more equitable society, a job being automated away would be an unambiguously good thing. Producing more value with less work is good. It's just the capture of that benefit going 100% to owners that's bad and distresses society.
[05:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:43] <exec> 08└─And to train people in the skill of greeting people with a standardized phrase [youtube.com] while maximizing attitude and minimizing bloodshed.
[05:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:45] <exec> 08└─Or, pre-train the AI's to retrain the humans first before they are allowed to replace them. At least the AI wouldn't get bored trying to retrain a human. Commit suicide, maybe, but not get bored.
[05:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:47] <exec> 08└─Nooo ... no .... that won't work [youtube.com].
[05:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vegan and Vegetarian Diets 'Link to Higher Stroke Risk' - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:34] <exec> 08└─That answer seems to be applicable to most of Leviticus itself.
[05:41:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:41:26] <exec> 08└─Your website sucks.
[05:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:41:27] <exec> 08└─Everyone here has the same number of mod points, ready to spend every day, at a rate of one per comment. If you don't agree with a comment's downmods, mod it back up. If it's still modded down, maybe you're outnumbered.
[05:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Shows Benefits of Political Incorrectness - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:41:30] <exec> 08└─Initially misread that as "TMB is a chainsaw". Didn't change the meaning one whit. :D
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[06:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:32:57] <exec> 08└─Simplest explanation that satisfies the question: because we are stupid! No paradox needs to be invoked. (grin)
[06:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:32:58] <exec> 08└─Sure, they could even have us in quarantine, no one is allowed to come here, that's not the point. The point iirc was that if we assume baselines as best we can based on current experience, there should be thousands, probably millions or billions, of other civilizations and some of those should have...
[06:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:00] <exec> 08└─The authors of the paper draw some interesting conclusions (paper is paywalled, abstract only) about how it might be possible for multiple (many?) spacefaring civilizations to settle significant areas of the galaxy without ever visiting earth. Their hypothesis (IMHO) could include distances/angles o...
[06:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:10] <exec> 08└─C++11 got pushed before C++98 support was complete on major compilers for chrissakes
[06:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:12] <exec> 08└─So really the python2/3 mess is no different than any other language right now. Hell go look at perl and the 5.24/5.26+ debacle. All kinds of old stuff broken but they claim the language/API/ABI is the same.
[06:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:14] <exec> 08└─If you need help with Python 2 software, then volunteers will not help you.
[06:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:16] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm just gonna stick with Windows 7, because it works and stuff. I can check my Hotmail and post to Facebook, so I don't need to upgrade to any Python 3. What is Python, anyway? Isn't that some kind of snake?
[06:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:19] <exec> 08└─I wonder if people will just move from Python 2 to something else entirely, or just stick with Python 2.7 and release their own security updates, patches, etc. Also, did Python 3 get rid of the global interpreter lock? Seems like that would be worth the effort for people to break compatibility with...
[06:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:21] <exec> 08└─right way: hey we don't have enough time for security issues with python2, somebody wants to lend a hand? There is no need to improve python 2, in fact it would be detrimental, but leaving it without security fixes seems a political rather than technical move. This, together with the strange way bru...
[06:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:38] <exec> 08└─They do produce something. At home, in US. And then... they don't export the capital overseas and don't get govt subsidies or tax breaks. So, why do you object to them? (grin)
[06:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:40] <exec> 08└─People are lonely and bored with not a lot of options. When people become lonely and there is nothing else to do but watch TV...
[06:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:01] <exec> 08└─Not all of the residents, you idiot, only the ones whose data was sold! Innumeracy seems to follow upon illiteracy and poor reading comprehension. Due to excessive bad posting from this IP or Subnet, anonymous comment posting has temporarily been disabled. You can still login to post. However, if ba...
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[06:35:24] <exec> 08└─No but he can do it Reagan style and leave it at the carefully worded, "I do not recall".
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[07:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:32:54] <exec> 08└─those should have been at the right point in their development to emit signs for us to see now
[07:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:32:55] <exec> 08└─No, radio works fine. Assume every intelligent species spends about 100 years communicating by radio, as we did. Yes, later on, they might develop any number of alternatives that would be harder for us to notice and decode. But if we're really a typical product of our star, there are so many other s...
[07:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:32:58] <exec> 08└─If we assume a few million Earth's scattered around the universe we'd expect at least one of them at the correct offset in time and space for us there should be thousands, probably millions or billions, of other civilizations ...
[07:32:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:00] <exec> 08└─It's virtually impossible not one of them happened to go through their radio century at the right time for us to be watching it now.
[07:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:02] <exec> 08└─Sure. Still we expect each and every one of them to have spent roughly a century in that phase. How many G series stars are there in the sky? Some are young, some are old, but there are a staggering number of them. Not one appears to be producing non-natural radio signals.
[07:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:04] <exec> 08└─Start from the number of stars similar to ours that you can currently see in the sky. That's a tremendously huge number. Yes, there's light speed and time but we can actually ignore all that. Just look at how many stars appear yellow from here at the present time. You'll get a (pardon the pun) truly...
[07:33:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:06] <exec> 08└─So, let's pick one factor from the Drake equasion: a species develloping high enough intelligence to get to space. Even here on Earth with millions of species (including bacteria and fungi), only one species managed to obtain the intelligence to get into space. All species originated from the same a...
[07:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:20] <exec> 08└─since they planned decades ahead
[07:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:22] <exec> 08└─somebody wants to lend a hand?
[07:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:24] <exec> 08└─We are volunteers who make who make and take care of the Python programming language.
[07:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:26] <exec> 08└─I'm sure that Red Hat and whoever else has long term support versions of Linux, that come with python2, will keep maintaining python2 until those versions expire.
[07:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:28] <exec> 08└─This is a much appreciated insight into the situation. Thank you for the explanation.
[07:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:48] <exec> 08└─Some of us do drugs for our physical health. As in the kind where the doctor looks at the x-rays and says, "Yeah, that's almost bone on bone. How are you still walking?" and I reply, "the hydrocodone really does help, Doc." Of course, I don't get any of that horrible horrible life-permitting stuff a...
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[07:34:11] <exec> 08└─Ah the great workings of the capitalism. Let the market decide and all will be good. Screw those communist Europeans and their ideas about privacy and respect. And they say "This is the best system we've got! What are the alternatives? None!" Anyone agreeing with the quotation deserve what they get.
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[08:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:15] <exec> 08└─stars like the sun live for 10^10 years. let's say that there are 10^3 years (cummulated over the 10 billion, for different civilizations) when inefficient radio transmissions are emitted by the planets with life. if all stars like the sun develop technological civilizations, that means there should...
[08:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:17] <exec> 08└─"what you can see with the unaided eye is most likely on the order of 5000 stars" Forget about naked eye though. We have much better instruments. An aside, but proof that the universe is not infinite (or isn't even approximately uniform.) If it were infinite (and uniform) the night sky would be much...
[08:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:19] <exec> 08└─Even with space being really big, we have no clue (a n=1) about how big the chances are that a species develops sufficient intelligence to travel among the stars. Maybe we just got really lucky as humans.
[08:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:21] <exec> 08└─Start from the number of stars similar to ours that you can currently see in the sky. That's a tremendously huge number.
[08:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:23] <exec> 08└─You're again making the implicit assumption that the humanity capacity to observe the sky is unbounded. You may want to check that assumption and adjust your probability numbers.
[08:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:25] <exec> 08└─Simplest explanation that satisfies the question: because we are stupid! No paradox needs to be invoked.
[08:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:27] <exec> 08└─Detecting radio emissions from a planet-bound civilization isn't actually very easy. We might, barely, be able to spot a copy of our own civilization if it were at Alpha Centauri. SETI is really just hoping to find a beacon aimed specifically at us, or a very bright omnidirectional one. But there is...
[08:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:29] <exec> 08└─The speed of light and expansion of the universe cut off any galaxies farther away than 47 billion light years. The complete universe may or may not be infinite (I think it most likely is), but the observable universe certainly isn't; not only is it not infinite, it could never be infinite, and we k...
[08:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:32] <exec> 08└─I'm not assuming it's unbounded. I am assuming that it's no worse than it was in the prior century. You're absolutely right we aren't monitoring every possible angle constantly. But there are a large number of observation points and there have been for 40 years or more. And there should be a nearly...
[08:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that whole speed of light thing. Doesn't that strike you as too convenient? Exactly the sort of nonsense an advanced civilization would invent if they wanted to quarantine us.
[08:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:53] <exec> 08└─"Python2 doesn't have native unicode support" Upsets me much less now than a few years ago. Modern unicode is nothing but emoji bullshit anyway. I wouldn't want to support it. I'd probably break it intentionally, in such a way as to make sure it stays broke. "a variety of math function issues" Can't...
[08:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:55] <exec> 08└─> Python2 doesn't have native unicode support, handles it badly in many existing cases, Python3 deprecates the simple string manipulation functions replace, rjust etc and replaces them with a ghastly mini-language. That is a deal breaker. I don't give a rats arse about unicode so this is a non-featu...
[08:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:36:01] <exec> 08└─He has a good memory, that's not difficult. Try it. Next time you take out your card, memorise the number. How hard is it really? Maybe tricky until you've done it a few times. Now practice on random cards (loyalty cards etc.) for a month and see how good you get. I work in IT. We have a policy not...
[08:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06India Locates Lander Lost on Final Approach to Moon - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:40:35] <exec> 08└─Then what alternative do you propose and how does it explain the cosmic background radiation's anisotropy?
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[09:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:22] <exec> 08└─at this point i'm pretty sure arik is trolling, but please be aware that there is at least me who finds your replies informative.
[09:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:24] <exec> 08└─then you'll understand that Fermi Paradox is the opposite of humility
[09:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:26] <exec> 08└─And there should be a nearly infinite number of signals for them to detect
[09:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:28] <exec> 08└─The Milky Way could be teeming with interstellar alien civilizations — we just don't know about it because they haven't paid us a visit in 10 million years.
[09:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:30] <exec> 08└─And the actual travelers are using planes or even something more advanced while we can't even think of imaging how to make a raft.
[09:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:32] <exec> 08└─"The real question is why aliens haven't simply landed on Earth. Earth has been here for billions of years, and goofy pseudoscience shows on History channel notwithstanding, aliens have never been here." Well no. There's no proof they've been here, but there's no proof they haven't either. A much mo...
[09:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:35] <exec> 08└─It has been pointed out that among the first powerful signals emitted from Earth were public radio broadcasts, and they will have reached quite a few stars by now. Prominent among those would have been broadcasts of Hitler's rally speeches. Perhaps he scared them off, which might not be a bad thing.
[09:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:37] <exec> 08└─I'm going to mod you up because so far you're the only person to counter me with numbers. Reliable numbers (not sure how reliable yours are but at least they're numbers that's a start!) are the only way to settle anything. I'm not sure your numbers are right; to the contrary they seem hard to accept...
[09:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:39] <exec> 08└─I'm almost always trolling, but usually in the bestest sense of the word. If I understand the subject better than anyone within 100 miles, and I know damn well I don't understand it at all, what am I to do? I'm not above posting something that's clearly wrong and inviting anyone that has the ability...
[09:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:41] <exec> 08└─yet one makes it into space and the others don't get the clue that they could achieve more than what they have been doing for ages.
[09:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:43] <exec> 08└─They'd have hardly had any more reason to be scared of him than of Stalin, Roosevelt, Chamberhill, or H. G. Wells.
[09:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:06] <exec> 08└─You can rjust, replace, etc in python3. It appears there was some reorganization - from the string lib to the str builtin, but I don't recall having noticed the difference in practice. https://docs.python.org [python.org] for details, but I expect you...
[09:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:07] <exec> 08└─Indeed, RedHat 7 depends on Python 2(.7), and they will have to at least patch security issues and the like until it goes EOL, which is 2024 without the extended support contracts. They have been doing the maint for the older OpenJDK versions for similar reasons - still carrying on patching OpenJDK...
[09:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:16] <exec> 08└─In his defence, it was probably made out of ticky-tacky https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[09:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:17] <exec> 08└─Bill forgot he was married.
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[10:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:00] <exec> 08└─22m lb., What is that in Tesla model S cars?
[10:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:45] <exec> 08└─Every time Fermi comes about, the discussion gets repeated. I suggest, reality mimics Soylent: The settlers start, move around, lose their way and end up where they started. Over and over again. Any yet over again.
[10:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:46] <exec> 08└─I strongly suspect those gray haired old men were full of something other than science. c0lo's post about the relative power of random noise generated by Jupiter, and the earth's total radio transmissions pretty much covers the matter. That amounts to a Ham radio operator trying to pull in the faint...
[10:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:48] <exec> 08└─Fermi paradox can be sustained forever by just ignoring facts. If ignorance weakens, add more religion into society.
[10:35:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 1820 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:17] <exec> 08└─Back in 2017, the UN announced that it was time to stop the medicalization of mental illnesses such as depression. See United Nations Statement criticizes medicalization of depression [madinamerica.com]. The "chemical imbalance" claim for depression has never been definitively proven, even though...
[10:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:36:20] <exec> 08└─That's a Photogenic Memory. I always remember the pretty ones.
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[11:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:00] <exec> 08└─All the talk about plastic waste induced me to look into recycling. There's an interesting YouTube channel called Precious Plastic [youtube.com] where some guys converted a shipping container into a plastic recycling factory. They sort, clean, melt down, and re-craft items with what they gather. The...
[11:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:48] <exec> 08└─Not sure who your talking about "him" but I'm assuming to me? I'm not sure what Carl Sagan would think about. Anyway, Fermi Paradox is assumptions on assumptions, like this guy, https://www.theguardian.com [theguardi...
[11:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:49] <exec> 08└─Exactly the sort of nonsense an advanced civilization would invent if they wanted to quarantine us.
[11:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:52] <exec> 08└─if any civilization like our own existed at the correct time/space distance to be detected we could pick it up.
[11:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:54] <exec> 08└─Not sure who your talking about "him"
[11:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:56] <exec> 08└─The Fermi paradox, named after Italian-American physicist Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between the lack of evidence for extraterrestrial civilizations elsewhere in the Milky Way galaxy and high estimates of their probability, such those that result from optimistic choices of parameter...
[11:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:58] <exec> 08└─Not one appears to be producing non-natural radio signals.
[11:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:00] <exec> 08└─There must be some kind of way out of here...
[11:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:02] <exec> 08└─We certainly can fathom how to travel to the nearest star. We are probably decades out from having a stable multiplanetary presence in our own solar system. We could come up with a way to do interstellar travel, but it would be expensive and inefficient, and might require a generation ship or advanc...
[11:34:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 32 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:17] <exec> 08└─since they planned decades ahead
[11:34:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:19] <exec> 08└─We are volunteers who make who make and take care of the Python programming language.
[11:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:47] <exec> 08└─And then out of desperation you turn to hypnosis and discover you can teach your brain to ignore the pain signals. Then you attempt to rebuild your life while hating the medical industry. A few months of $100 sessions or a life long drug additction with side effects. Your choice.
[11:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:57] <exec> 08└─They're turning the freaking frogs gay.
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[12:33:00] <exec> 08└─Put "facts" in public, people can collect them and use them. Duh. May Microsoft pay the other company's expenses.
[12:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:02] <exec> 08└─Web scraping is DOXING! DOXING is MURDER!
[12:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:11] <exec> 08└─If we're at peak stuff, then I'd have to say the amount of plastic in the Great Lakes is quite survivable. In July I was in Saugatuck, Michigan, across Lake Michigan from Chicago to the east, then at Indiana State Dunes, across Lake Michigan from Chicago to the southeast and next to US Steel to the...
[12:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:07] <exec> 08└─Nice to see them crediting Kim Stanley Robinson for Aurora, but CiXin Liu probably deserves a mention for Dark Forest theory: The galaxy is filled with civilizations but nobody reveals themselves for fear of getting annihilated by other civilizations. https://bigthink.com
[12:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:53] <exec> 08└─Remember that you said that the next time you're in the hospital with a broken back, an amputation, any sort of deep surgery, or a heart attack for that matter. Yes, the company did wrong with the way they advised their products be used and more. No, not every prescription for opioids was wrong. And...
[12:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:54] <exec> 08└─We should probably keep a few things in mind. Opioids have been around, and in more or less common use, much longer than Purdue has existed. Opioids have been pretty strictly controlled for at least the past 80 years. Purdue is directly responsible for false statements made to congress, and then wid...
[12:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:17] <exec> 08└─Where do you idiots come from that cant tell the difference between government and free markets? Oh yea, Europe where you are so far along the fascism path you can't even tell the difference between the two anymore.
[12:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 1246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:47] <exec> 08└─Many years ago I took a course in Medical Assisting, there was a gal in my class who was the closest to an Eidetic memory I've ever actually encountered. She could quote whole chapters of the textbooks by paragraph, page number or any other way you could think of. Passed every test 100%. Then came t...
[12:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vegan and Vegetarian Diets 'Link to Higher Stroke Risk' - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:22] <exec> 08└─Finally the meat industry is fighting back with its own agitprop through secretly funded studies. The tobacco, sugar, and alcohol industries have been doing that sort of thing for years. Maybe now we can enjoy news articles about how lovely it is to eat a well-cooked steak, instead of trying to conv...
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[13:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:02] <exec> 08└─I eat maybe half to two-thirds what my 20-something son eats. The older I get, the less I can eat, if I want to avoid weight gain. Definitely unfair...
[13:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:04] <exec> 08└─Man, one of the few benefits of getting older is people don't get to bitch so much if you've got a bit of a spare tire. Like right now I could get down to the weight I was in my mid-20s pretty easily (I stay within thirty pounds of it just by not eating sugar unless I really, really want to) but I q...
[13:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:14] <exec> 08└─if it requires a password it is supposed to be private and is protected under the law this really shreds zuck's defense for leaking and selling everyone's fb private messages and private data to cambridge analytica? Or are we going to debate what the meaning of 'password protected' is?
[13:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:19] <exec> 08└─And at present we've detected one just-maybe megastructure (or unusual cloud of large debris), have detected a (large) handful of nearby planets whose orbital planes happen to be very near to our line of sight, and have the technology to get a very rough glimpse at the atmospheres of some of the ver...
[13:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:31] <exec> 08└─> If each of the 384 MILLION ... Hi Batman, are you usually off by 10^6?
[13:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03optotronic [4285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:32] <exec> 08└─On my desktop computer I was able to read the article and did a little research. The posted BMV policy for Ohio certainly attempts to make the sale of driver license records sound more palatable: https://www.bmv.ohio.gov [ohio.gov] The other Ohio information I found is...
[13:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:06] <exec> 08└─But the pill sellers/makers/investors benefit, so they continue to push for more use of the pills, and the legal and medical systems have proven happy to oblige.
[13:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 2807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:08] <exec> 08└─I read some above comments to see people are perceiving this as the psychiatrists losing work because we are all being so well cared for by our psych-waifu apps. I read it as 'is the psychologist profession ready to deal with the result of 50 million 22 year olds crying about their waifu sexbot not...
[13:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 1058 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:28] <exec> 08└─Is this one of those 'we have altered the habitate of 100,000 species by increasing emf in their environment across 10,000 frequencies by a factor of 1000 but even though these species are dying off since these changes were made I see no reason to form any hypotheses or do any experimentation and I...
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[14:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:07] <exec> 08└─If someone doesn't/can't buy a Huawei it's not like they are going to buy a Mac instead. Microsoft still gets the install.
[14:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:09] <exec> 08└─Scalpels don't whip up the base, meat cleavers do. I'm guessing there's a hope that the threat of the meat cleaver will force the appearance of compliance, the way the Prez is swinging that meat cleaver he's risking cutting off his own dick.
[14:33:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:11] <exec> 08└─There's a pretty strong phenomenon in the market right now that if someone can't buy what they're looking for, they can just make do without. It's not like there aren't millions of use-able PCs lying around because they've been early-retired / replaced with something shiny.
[14:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:13] <exec> 08└─Huawei's new operating system is not about "better than Windows" or "better than Android, superior or inferior technical skills of engineers. It is all about sovereignty. Nor Microsoft nor Google care about anyone's sovereignty, but they both pretty understand they will loose a market share, sooner...
[14:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:23] <exec> 08└─What they’re saying is that to keep from gaining weight, as we age we need to eat less and move more.
[14:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:25] <exec> 08└─In my early 20s I could eat 7/8 of a Dominos regular pepperoni pizza and feel "satisfied". By my late 20s, if I ate more than 2/8 of a Dominos regular pepperoni pizza for lunch, I'd feel overstuffed all afternoon. Difference: active lifestyle, biking every day, water skiing twice a week vs. office j...
[14:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:27] <exec> 08└─True, so long as one continues to intake adequate nutrition. We forget in our land of obesity that for the elderly the opposite can happen and anxorexia can develop. Not as common but it can.
[14:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:38] <exec> 08└─S'basically what we tell anyone scraping our stuff here for most any purposes. As long as you're limiting it so it doesn't qualify as a DoS, rock on with your bad self. I'd personally probably call Douchebag if they're just mirroring the site under a different name without attribution or pulling the...
[14:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:40] <exec> 08└─yet if I scrape audio facts from a Spotify feed or video facts from a YouTube video I'm guilty of copyright infringement. Especially if I republish what I just scraped.. Just saying... just trying to point out what seems to be stupid line of attack from Microsofrmt they should've slapped them with r...
[14:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:42] <exec> 08└─No such shredding at all - the messges were given to facebook in the clear in order to deliver to the recipients, facebook didn't need your password to access them. And anyway - you gave your password to facebook too!
[14:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:53] <exec> 08└─There are 2.2lb in 1kg.
[14:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:55] <exec> 08└─So the real number is 10 Gg.
[14:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:52] <exec> 08└─Actually though, it's not nearly that odd - at present if Earth had a twin civilization orbitting the nearest star, it's doubtful that we'd be able to detect them - their radio emissions would be lost in the much louder radio noise from the star itself. With current technology we'd really only be ab...
[14:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:54] <exec> 08└─Well, there were at least a handful of other hominid species on Earth that might have eventually made it if they hadn't been displaced by our direct ancestors. And there's no telling what Earth's past might hide. There could easily have been a thriving race of spacefaring dinosaurs on Earth, and the...
[14:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:56] <exec> 08└─This seems a good context to remind us of The Fermi paradox paradox: "I just made the atomic bomb. Why don't aliens speak to us?"
[14:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:58] <exec> 08└─dinosaur civilization: you should expect to see boats buried in the sea floor near deltas (just like we're finding in Alexandria for instance). sediment turns to rock with unnatural formation inside it, it will remain like this forever (just like bones got exposed at sea shore fossilized boats would...
[14:35:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:34] <exec> 08└─No - small businesses are job creators. Big corporations are job eliminators.
[14:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:45] <exec> 08└─Um, I think the whole point of the involuntary part of "incel" is that they *can't* be alone without being lonely... Plenty of people can't get laid, but I've only ever heard the incel moniker pointed at the ones who are vocally bitter about the situation.
[14:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:46] <exec> 08└─I came here to say the same thing. Generally speaking the people about to b replaced by new technology are the last ones to recognize it, so I fail to see how their opinion should be considered particularly relevant until the replacement is so well underway as to be undeniable. "It is difficult to g...
[14:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 1084 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:31] <exec> 08└─Changing bosses from a human one to a robot one isn't a form of training, in a way it's just getting used to a meaner, less empathetic boss who could kill you and get away with it. They write this like they want to give free college to a hundred thousand plumbers so they can deal with robo-nano-plum...
[14:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:32] <exec> 08└─Oh sure, that interpretation is completely at odds with how automation investment actually works, but it does coincide with your dumbass ideology, so I guess I see the value.
[14:41:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:09] <exec> 08└─Ka band? Outside? Oh yes, https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[14:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:11] <exec> 08└─Ah, so that's what makes people go to NFL games, I always wondered!
[14:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon's 5G Network isn't Good Enough to Cover an Entire NFL Stadium - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:13] <exec> 08└─Then, excuse me for wanting to hold my phone at all.
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[15:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:18] <exec> 08└─Wants to build a wall to keep foreign OS out of its territory.
[15:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but also, no one is looking for huawei. It was an expanding company in the US. Their products have a pretty solid reputation in China, but that doesn't really transfer here.
[15:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:21] <exec> 08└─Oh, poor Toad [thecut.com]
[15:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:24] <exec> 08└─"The competition, it burns, it burns!! Please, Mister President, let us keep selling our stuff in China!" Huawei can, and probably will, use that as a selling point. "Our stuff doesn't run American OS's, and it's not Microsoft!" If I were a terrorist, that would be a major sales point. Actually, I'm...
[15:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:35] <exec> 08└─The years definitely make a difference too. I do every bit as much stuff now as I did in my 20s but I feel no need to eat an entire pizza in an evening. Most of the time. I did last week but I'd been out fishing all day and hadn't put anything in my stomach except coffee and water since the day befo...
[15:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03terrab0t [4674] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:49] <exec> 08└─LinkedIn argued that hiQ violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, not that they violated copyright.
[15:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:50] <exec> 08└─Nah, this ruling has fuck-all to do with copyright, only the CFAA.
[15:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:52] <exec> 08└─No, you're not. Facts are not copyrightable. A given presentation of them is. The feed or the video itself is the presentation. The layout of the text can be copyrighted. That's not what they were doing here. If I were to go to some other website and say yet if I scrape audio facts from a Spotify fe...
[15:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:04] <exec> 08└─there was nary a piece of plastic to be seen, at the big state park beaches or at the remote, wild beaches of Lake Superior in western Ontario or any of the rest.
[15:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:07] <exec> 08└─Exactly. We are really really stupid. We can't even see beyond our self-importance.
[15:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:08] <exec> 08└─If aliens have advance intelligence, advanced technology, then they must also have advanced bureaucracy. Bureaucracy of the kind that even our computers such as they are, would be unable to cope. Colonizing the galaxy is caught up in red tape. Meanwhile, while you wait, listen to some vogon poetry.
[15:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:10] <exec> 08└─We went from a handful of known exoplanets to thousands in a short amount of time, but we are still in the dark ages of exoplanet detection, spectroscopy, and direct imaging. We will get better at it. We could use many gigantic space telescopes to get better results. Megastructures are fun to look f...
[15:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:12] <exec> 08└─Quite so. It may well be that life is far easier to detect across interstellar distances than civilizations, At least life that re-engineers planets the way it did here - would we recognize the environmental signature of methane-breathing life? But as I recall even an ideal future telescope using th...
[15:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:37] <exec> 08└─So ALL modern languages are CRAP, go to know.
[15:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 1309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:38] <exec> 08└─Move to what exactly? Perl 6? C++17? TypeScript or Kotlin? Where is there to go that seems better? What is the most painless migration and upgrade you've ever heard of? I can't recall anything that didn't provoke complaining. Something always gets broken. Doesn't matter if the broken stuff was the m...
[15:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:41] <exec> 08└─When, I got into tinkering with Python a year or two ago, now. I read up on what version of Python, I should be using. I went with Python3, as everyone was saying, use Python3, unless you're stuck on Python2 for some big project.
[15:35:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 1285 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:57] <exec> 08└─What Purdue and the rest did wasn't right but I think this misses the point. People do drugs for their mental health. People are lonely and bored with not a lot of options. When people become lonely and there is nothing else to do but watch TV, they do drugs en masse. Does bankrupting Purdue help...
[15:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:07] <exec> 08└─Try Narn Breen [youtube.com] (aka, Swedish Meatballs) In the movie Soylent Green, at least people gladly PAID to commit suicide and become a food ingredient.
[15:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:37] <exec> 08└─The US seems to be desperate to get some sort of vaguely believable casus belli with Iran.
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[16:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:12] <exec> 08└─I approve.
[16:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:13] <exec> 08└─Most of Google is already accustomed to alien anal probing. The aliens actually have a word for the probe. "Google". Have you been googled, lately? http://1.bp.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]
[16:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 3276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:15] <exec> 08└─Really though, I think the question here is about power. I have been thinking a lot about this concept I am for now calling 'slimy trust abusing lateral power grab'. A small example would be if you took your coworkers by your house and one of them freely wanders the entire floorplan ahead of you uns...
[16:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:30] <exec> 08└─Harmony is obviously a hedge for Huawei to avoid being caught off guard and crippled. But it can be more. Harmony doesn't have the baggage Android has. Google has repeatedly tried to get more control over Android devices and give them more reliable updates, but fragmentation has remained a problem....
[16:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:43] <exec> 08└─It's the "move more" part that's so difficult. Worn knees and ankles make it difficult to move around so much. Then, there is a vicious circle - you gain the first couple pounds, which makes it harder to move, which leads to a couple more pounds, and so on.
[16:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:44] <exec> 08└─Hate to break it to ya but within THIRTY POUNDS of your weight in your mid-20's makes you OBESE and there is no way in hell you could "EASILY" get back that weight. It would take a LOT more work than you seem to think...and that's exactly why you're obese now...it starts with your thinking patterns....
[16:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:00] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter to things like Cambridge Analytica, but it could matter to things like Google getting in trouble a few years ago for receiving public radio broadcasts, that is, mapping unsecured wifi signals. If you don't want the neighbors looking into your windows, then close the curtains. It's...
[16:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmichaelhudsondotnet [8122] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:02] <exec> 08└─you are going to debate the meaning of the word password protected. it is however still password protected to them, they just know the password. not the same as not password protected.
[16:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:19] <exec> 08└─>My point is that there are no actual travelers. How do you know? Why would you assume we could see them? We're still discovering bushels of failed stars in our own galactic back yard that were too dim to see with previous telescopes, and their output almost certainly still dwarfs a spaceship's driv...
[16:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:20] <exec> 08└─Umm - the deltas didn't exist back then. Neither did the mountains, or most any other geological feature present today. The planet was entirely different then, and almost everything that was on the surface then is now either deep underground or long since eroded away. And most of the junk would have...
[16:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:48] <exec> 08└─This is the kind of academic wankery that makes FOSS so hard to get adopted in businesses, and why Microsoft had such a big slice of the pie. If you want your project to get accepted, you need to be willing to support it for multiple decades with warts and all. Torvalds somewhat managed to do this w...
[16:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:14] <exec> 08└─Yes, the company did wrong with the way they advised their products be used and more. No, not every prescription for opioids was wrong. And what's happening here has already made physicians much more fearful of giving strong pain medication even when it is indicated, and will do nothing but drive th...
[16:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:41] <exec> 08└─I get an increase in "extended your warranty" and insurance spam mail after a vehicle purchase? Hmmmmm...
[16:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mer [8009] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:18] <exec> 08└─All but the most dysfunctional of psychotics are sane. Most psychological disorders are myths, shaming from the de facto "normals" (in statistical terms only). What we call paranoia should really be how anyone with two bit of sense acts. Let's see how "paranoiacs" react to the phone call informing t...
[16:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:17] <exec> 08└─Seems like Lord Nikon was at it again.
[16:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Clerk Uses Photographic Memory to Steal Credit Card Info From 1,300 Customers - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:18] <exec> 08└─Does photographic memory require that you can remember not only the card, but also which card of which side are connected to each other? Imho no it does not. So you remember 2 sides of 1300 cards, but you need to be able to know the card number and name and then also the security CCV on the other si...
[16:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06All Comets In The Solar System Might Come From The Same Place - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:34] <exec> 08└─Could you explain why it is Kelvins, but we still have Degrees Rankine? I can see that Kelvins, being an absolute scale, can be considered separate to the whole "degrees" thing, but then Rankine should too right?
[16:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:08] <exec> 08└─Easy. No coffin, no embalming = instant recycling.
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[17:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:08] <exec> 08└─As soon as the government goes after a company on antitrust laws that company was about to decline anyway.
[17:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:09] <exec> 08└─You had me until near complete integration with the police state
[17:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:12] <exec> 08└─Considering the results of the last few anti-trust probes they've done, and the completely and total ineffectiveness thereof, I have difficulty believing that this is just a bunch of posturing designed to make them look like they're doing something useful and justifying their jobs. I have no expecta...
[17:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:28] <exec> 08└─Well, of course... Apple is a made in China brand which offshores all their profits, you don't see them being singled out, do you?
[17:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:29] <exec> 08└─I guess that's a true statement, but I don't know what you're getting at.
[17:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:32] <exec> 08└─...the way the Prez is swinging that meat cleaver he's risking cutting off his own dick.
[17:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:15] <exec> 08└─At a certain point the stuff becomes like sea glass and blends right in. I'm always out on the beaches of Long Island keeping an eye on the stones because I'm a flintknapper and because I use the ocre that you find there to paint. once in a while you happen across a chunk of asphaltor concrete that...
[17:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:23] <exec> 08└─Hair dryers were the absolutely worst sources of RFI back in days of analog transmission through free space.
[17:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:18] <exec> 08└─Seriously? I think you might be overreacting a bit. Has every non-pot smoker you've ever met been someone who completely abstains from cannabis? How could you tell without asking?
[17:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:24] <exec> 08└─it's probably going to find use in the (yuge) niche where the "doctor" is a robot clad in soft silicon, who you can visit naked and will ask you about your day in soft moaning sounds.
[17:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:54] <exec> 08└─probably just depleted uranium that travelled over from iraq with the wind. it's good some of it, in the form of samples taken, made it back to the good ol' usa. ^_^
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[18:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:00] <exec> 08└─https://news.utexas.edu/2019/09/09/rocks-at-asteroid-impact-site-record-first-day-of-dinosaur-extinction/ [utexas.edu] No need for a paywall or someone's interpretation.
[18:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:07] <exec> 08└─Get it to make some LSD, then I'll care.
[18:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:20] <exec> 08└─Pretty much. The time to do something about Google was when it was buying up the competition and giving itself a massive advantage in the ad space.
[18:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:40] <exec> 08└─>When Microsoft asked US lawmakers to explain the threat [from Huawei], they've been too vague for Smith's liking. "with less than 100% documented hardware platform, you cannot have a secure system" is indeed vague but true enough. But, does that matter to a Microsoft user? yes. Because holes in the...
[18:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:56] <exec> 08└─It may be an evolutionary response to lifestyle change. At least in the pre-industrial times, when you are young you play offense in war and fights over mates. When you are older you need to play more defense to protect what you have. Fat provides defense, but makes you less offensive. If you don't...
[18:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:57] <exec> 08└─Speak for yourself. Average BMI for someone my height, weight, and waist size is 27.5 and I carry around a lot more muscle than the average person. Yes, I've put on four inches around the waist since I was eighteen but I've also added three or four across the shoulders. And given the utter lack of p...
[18:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:59] <exec> 08└─Hate to break it to ya but within THIRTY POUNDS of your weight in your mid-20's makes you OBESE
[18:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:17] <exec> 08└─or downloading troves of user info that careless orgs left open to the public on AWS or their own website? Maybe it had to be a for-profit business doing it before the correct ruling could be made.
[18:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:32] <exec> 08└─It would be really cool if I could recycle my own 3d printer filament.
[18:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:33] <exec> 08└─At a certain point the stuff becomes like sea glass and blends right in.
[18:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:36] <exec> 08└─If we're at peak stuff...
[18:35:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 120 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:02] <exec> 08└─Start from the number of stars similar to ours that you can currently see in the sky. That's a tremendously huge number.
[18:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:45] <exec> 08└─Simplest explanation that satisfies the question: The universe is really fucking big.
[18:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:46] <exec> 08└─I've always wondered why they would want to find us. If they are traveling across vast distances of space, you would have to imagine they had figured out the key to unlimited energy. If they have unlimited energy, one would think they could create any molecule they want. Resources seem unlikely. Ar...
[18:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:15] <exec> 08└─Python 2 HAS been supported for many, many years. The time has come for a cleanup of the design cruft. Just stop whining already. Make the jump and remain content for many more years with version 3. It's not a *completely new* language... You can handle it. Really.
[18:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 3230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:17] <exec> 08└─It's funny because I have the exact opposite interpretation. C (and to a lesser extent C++) is still the language that all other languages strive to be because it is unquestionably stable. Java tried to do that, but failed in a variety of ways. And there's a very simple explanation, and it all start...
[18:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:19] <exec> 08└─5 years? Pathetic! I've been putting this off for at least 10!
[18:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:21] <exec> 08└─This is the kind of academic wankery that makes FOSS so hard to get adopted in businesses, and why Microsoft had such a big slice of the pie. If you want your project to get accepted, you need to be willing to support it for multiple decades with warts and all.
[18:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, you'll become a walking stereotype as soon as you touch the devil's lettuce. Or maybe you're just becoming a senile old man and that's why you need help to eat jello.
[18:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 1069 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:15] <exec> 08└─It is nice that some states prevent stalkers by limiting data after the Schaeffer murder, even though it seems like Federal overreach into something which shouldn't be in their purview. But I'm old enough to remember when such records were considered public and it wasn't a bad thing at all. And are...
[18:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:55] <exec> 08└─Zombies don't count. :-) By the same token we could say Dr Sbaitso is still alive ... somewhere ... lurking on an old 286 with an original soundblaster (the bad old days, when an 8 bit sound card cost $300.00 - but Space Quest V and Prince of Persia and Death Track wouldn't be the same without soun...
[18:38:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 226 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:04] <exec> 08└─The US seems to be desperate to get some sort of vaguely believable casus belli with Iran. I suppose the other wars you're fighting are all winding down, and any war with Iran should go on for years. Lots of money to be made.
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[19:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:58] <exec> 08└─Vitamin C, Vitamin D, etc. But if the leaves are producing them, what's to prevent anyone from just smuggling out some cuttings and growing their own, and chewing on the leaves?
[19:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:12] <exec> 08└─If these states are concerned about goog's anticompetitive behavior (they should be), maybe they could start by REMOVING all of the google-analytics, googletagmanager, google-apis, and recaptcha shit from their own GOVERNMENT websites?
[19:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:14] <exec> 08└─this just shows that they are only fighting over the slaves.
[19:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:16] <exec> 08└─Maybe they should make their sites so they don't have web bugs, social media sharing icons, Javascript, etc. No Javascript and no links to external scripts, external css, external html, external images, is the way to go. It should be possible to access any government site using a text browser such...
[19:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:35] <exec> 08└─So many things, how to list them all...? All the "best" people use Apple products. Apple has strong established ties (kickbacks) into government, especially education, smacking Apple around would make lots of people with various levels of political power unhappy - same with any established supplier...
[19:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:37] <exec> 08└─I seem to recall back in the 1980s Toshiba leaked rather important military secrets to the Russians, particularly around the area of silent submarine props. I also seem to recall very little happening to them as a result because: lots of US interests would have been hurt if Toshiba was hurt.
[19:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0622 Million Pounds Of Plastics Enter The Great Lakes Each Year - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:28] <exec> 08└─"Perhaps the most worrisome aspect is that the impact of microplastics on human health remains unclear." no. more worrisome is the innocent animals that are being poisoned by the stupid fucking humans. dying by plastic is just slow justice.
[19:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:40] <exec> 08└─There is an assumption here that the entire alien civilization would move in unison with a single purpose. It seems more likely that there would be splinter groups off doing their own thing. Like Puritans migrating to North America. Or people colonizing Mars or other star systems. So a space-faring...
[19:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:42] <exec> 08└─If you understand this speech by Carl Sagal
[19:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:15] <exec> 08└─> "Python2 doesn't have native unicode support" Upsets me much less now than a few years ago
[19:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:16] <exec> 08└─How many security violations are in your 1970's programs do to the compiler bugs? I guarantee there are still one or more security violations in those programs that can't be fixed because it would require a compiler update (memory overrun anybody?) Comparing programs from the 1970's to programs toda...
[19:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 799 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:45] <exec> 08└─It's never been shown that drugs help depression, despite their use for 60 years. The UN has recommended that people stop that shit of medicalizing depression. It's time we realize that people will be depressed when their lives go to shit, and drugging their brains so it doesn't bother them so much...
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[20:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:55] <exec> 08└─Because that's just the university press release about the actual original source [pnas.org]. I'd include a sci-hub link because of the aformentioned paywall disdain, but sadly, sci-hub seems to be having one of its off days.
[20:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:56] <exec> 08└─Nuclear winter will cancel out global warming.
[20:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:58] <exec> 08└─..we should book an asteroid to cool things down a bit. That would make 1816, the year with no summer, look like a picnic.
[20:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:00] <exec> 08└─Nuclear winter will cancel out global warming.
[20:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:03] <exec> 08└─Just because the mammals rose after the dinosaurs were knocked out of their familiar climate does not mean that the current crop of mammals will fare as well in the next great climate upset.
[20:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:05] <exec> 08└─Why stop at Iran... nuke all Muslims, make the world a better place.
[20:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:07] <exec> 08└─Just because the mammals rose after the dinosaurs were knocked out of their familiar climate does not mean that the current crop of mammals will fare as well in the next great climate upset.
[20:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:17] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't it be better to have an artificial leaf that could produce marijuana instead?
[20:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:19] <exec> 08└─The Spice must flow!
[20:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:21] <exec> 08└─I would go for an artificial chewable leaf that could produce a pain reliever, like aspirin. Or a chewable leaf that was edible as food. (almost anything is edible -- at least once)
[20:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:24] <exec> 08└─This artificial leaf doesn't reproduce. Sunlight shines through micro fluidic channels catalyzing a chemical reaction. Does this reaction consume chemicals to produce its product? Is "leaf" even a good description? Leaf implies a lot of things that this does not seem to be.
[20:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:40] <exec> 08└─a vast conspiracy with a PR department.
[20:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:42] <exec> 08└─Alphabet could branch out into private for profit prisons. (that force 24/7 ad viewing on all four walls of your cell) Alphabet could also become a defense contractor. In fact, with Boston Dynamics, they almost might have been. But alas B/D didn't produce practical killer robots quickly enough for t...
[20:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:44] <exec> 08└─Reality is indeed a vast left wing conspiracy.
[20:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:46] <exec> 08└─The Microsoft antitrust circus didn't go too badly. Only two things seemed to go wrong at the very end: 1. The judge foolishly spoke to the press before formally announcing the verdict. 2. A Republican administration being elected. After the government fully proving their case: Ashcroft dismissing i...
[20:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:48] <exec> 08└─And they may have managed to somehow do this, and more, without disclosing it on their public financial statements because: "national security." However, the same evil, nefarious, potential futures await almost any sufficiently large organization, from IBM to Dow Chemical to JPL to Hasbro toys...
[20:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei: ARM Cortex-A77 Cores Would Shorten Battery Life - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:07] <exec> 08└─Cortex-A72: 20% less power or 90% greater performance than Cortex-A57. Cortex-A73: 30% increased power efficiency or 30% greater performance than Cortex-A72. Cortex-A75: 16-48% better performance than Cortex-A73. Cortex-A76: 25% and 35% increases in integer and floating point performance, respective...
[20:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:15] <exec> 08└─today's deltas will be rock formations in 60 million years. as far as I know there are several important dinosaur sites that were preserved because they were river beds or deltas during the itme of the dinosaurs. "the reddish smudge" is a reddish smudge; anything that could degrade a block of reinfo...
[20:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:16] <exec> 08└─This fragmentation makes you wonder again why they haven't conquered the entire galaxy. "They aren't from our galaxy or even close" is one possible answer, if not a satisfying one.
[20:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:18] <exec> 08└─That doesn't really answer the question. If intelligent life is likely, and the universe is big, that just means that there should be more sources. Much more likely is that they don't see any sense in wasting power in interstellar broadcasts and and physical travelers find, by the time they are in t...
[20:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:20] <exec> 08└─We currently have stars coming closer to us [wikipedia.org]. If we can barf humans at those stars, they will eventually be carried tens or hundreds of light years away from Earth, and they can spread to other nearby stars. Given enough time, the galaxy is ours. Or somebody's. It is a big galaxy thou...
[20:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 711 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:23] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but we don't have evidence sufficient to show that aliens have never been here. In fact, it's hard to guess what evidence *could* show that. What's true is that we also have no indication that they *HAVE* ever been here. OTOH, what would we expect to find. Suppose some alien trophy hunters la...
[20:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:25] <exec> 08└─You're neglecting the drop off in signal power with the square of the distance.
[20:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:59] <exec> 08└─very clear delineation between the language grammar, and the libraries used in that language
[20:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:29] <exec> 08└─Technically, if you own more than 10%? 20%? (some particular number in that range.) of the stock you are liable for the misdeeds of the corporation. This doesn't mean that particular part of the law is always enforced, but it can be.
[20:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opioid Talks Fail, Purdue Bankruptcy Filing Expected - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:30] <exec> 08└─Actually, I don't think "incel" has a well defined meaning, and I heard it used for someone with only the justification that the speaker (well, writer) didn't like them.
[20:39:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UN Nuclear Watchdog Finds Uranium 'Traces' At Iran Site - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:08] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, that nice Mr. Reagan got them back. (After the election of course, couldn't let the Democrats take credit, after all).
[20:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:31] <exec> 08└─Soylent Green
[20:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:32] <exec> 08└─Oh sure, that interpretation is completely at odds with how automation investment actually works
[20:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06120 Million Workers Will Need to be Retrained due to AI, Says IBM Study - 1014 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:34] <exec> 08└─Like I said, the core incentives don't change, aimless deregulation is a stupid ideology for extremely stupid people who meticulously misunderstand real-money economics, as actually executed in the real world, and certainly not any sort of realistic understanding of systemic effects beyond the one-v...
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[21:32:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:50] <exec> 08└─http://www.camhub.cc/get_image/2/56d17cd656f72c35ba298f8a46684384/main/9999x9999/0/356/18108.jpg/ [camhub.cc]
[21:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:52] <exec> 08└─I predict California Democrats will have to use old fashioned taxi service.
[21:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:54] <exec> 08└─... whether they're public service divers operating a taxi service? They clearly aren't employees, IMHO, but I say that as someone who's been doing gig work for over 20 years (as an employee of a self-owned company).
[21:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:56] <exec> 08└─InB4 any snorky comments - presumably these taxi divers all drive Scubarus! Let's hope autopirate system helps them with the bends. Am I forgiven for the typo yet?
[21:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:58] <exec> 08└─But if Uber and Lyft cease to do business within California, how will poser coders get around Silicon Valley to their SJW meetups?
[21:32:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:00] <exec> 08└─The classy thing to do was not to apologize. Walk the plank for your cheesy apology.
[21:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:02] <exec> 08└─If they are being underpaid AND exploited then THAT WOULD MAKE THEM employees under state law. Not independable confactors.
[21:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:04] <exec> 08└─Oops, I spoke too soon. The grammar in my above comment was/is horrendous, and I unequivocally retract my criticism of PhatFuk, or whomever. cheers,
[21:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:19] <exec> 08└─Why stop at Muslims, make a clean sweep of all religions and be done with it.
[21:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:20] <exec> 08└─Why stop at religions, kill everyone and be done forever.
[21:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:22] <exec> 08└─Stop with all the nuking. Religion is the best way to heal a world deeply and violently divided by religion.
[21:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Artificial Leaf Produces First Drugs Using Sunlight - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:35] <exec> 08└─The caffeine must flow. It is by the juice of caffeine the thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
[21:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:58] <exec> 08└─At least I can take comfort in the fact that Google won't be evil. They said so. And they wouldn't lie because they're not evil.
[21:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:59] <exec> 08└─Why are congress and prosecutors so into probing?
[21:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:01] <exec> 08└─In about 1999-2000 Microsoft was getting so powerful it was scary. Google and Facebook are powerful. Remember when the internet pages went dark to protest SOPA ? Google might decline if they can't maintain existing products instead of killing them and introducing new products that do the same thing....
[21:34:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:19] <exec> 08└─...the way the Prez is swinging that meat cleaver he's risking cutting off his own dick.
[21:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:23] <exec> 08└─But, that is true for just about any complex hardware. Especially since most of the parts are made in China anyway.
[21:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:41] <exec> 08└─BMI is not a great tool, but you may be right about us not really having anything better, I wouldn't know. I do remember, however this guy, [wikipedia.org] at the peak of his professional sports career being most surprised to find out he was obese. Maybe there is a way of adjusting the numbers to...
[21:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:43] <exec> 08└─Ditto here - somthing just started to kick in in my early 40s that ramped down my face-filling instincts. However, this lets me enjoy things like a meat/cheese/nibbles snack plate as much as a cuzza. Alas, that means my salt-intake is waaaaaay up, and I should probably book an appointment...
[21:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:02] <exec> 08└─> you are going to debate the meaning of the word password protected. Who is "you" here? Why do you not consider "password protected" to be a two-word phrase? > it is however still password protected to them, they just know the password. What is "it" here? Who is "them" here? > not the same as not p...
[21:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Web Scraping Doesn't Violate Anti-Hacking Law, Appeals Court Rules - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:04] <exec> 08└─Can we file for a motion to resurrect Aaron Swartz?
[21:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:43] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but no. We've got parts of the answer of "how to travel to the nearest star", and if what you mean is "send a lump of metal" then we could do it now with enough effort. But our electronics wouldn't last under high velocity bombardment of particles, and we couldn't maintain a society that wou...
[21:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:45] <exec> 08└─You are overly optimistic about the durability of concrete. The Romans made more durable concrete than our modern stuff, and I don't think their stuff would last that long.
[21:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:47] <exec> 08└─That theory has benefits, but it seems to assume that civilizations will continue to be based around planets, which seems to me dubious. And it doesn't explain the lack of "von Neuman machines" doing the exploring. I think a better question is "If they had been here, how would we know?". Most people...
[21:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:49] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. And if it weren't for the risk of Kuru [wikipedia.org], I'd offer to barf such humans up myself. As you're well aware, there are significant challenges to human (and alien) interstellar spaceflight, like constant boost drives, using ambient hydrogen for fuel, efficient life support syste...
[21:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:51] <exec> 08└─We can use those nanoscale vacuum tubes or some other radiation-tolerant technology for the electronics. Not sure what you mean by listening devices. Some old school navigation? If you don't want to do a generation ship, you could send a small group of people with anti-aging treatments to keep them...
[21:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:53] <exec> 08└─Lovely font. You must be really special.
[21:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:55] <exec> 08└─Unless they speak German but not Russian or English. ;-) Or, even if they received _a_ broadcast, what are they odds they translated it right.
[21:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:57] <exec> 08└─That theory has benefits, but it seems to assume that civilizations will continue to be based around planets, which seems to me dubious. And it doesn't explain the lack of "von Neuman machines" doing the exploring. I think a better question is "If they had been here, how would we know?".
[21:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DMVs In The U.S. Are Selling Drivers’ Information To Private Investigators - 3028 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:31] <exec> 08└─It's been like this forever. In order to have a drivers license, you needed to surrender your privacy. These days the DMV has biometric records, fingerprints, birth records, and is usually cross-referenced against the IRS with a SOS#. Not to mention, your personal address. I can't recall specificall...
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[22:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:04] <exec> 08└─Disregard that I suck cocks.
[22:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:06] <exec> 08└─Newspapers have been running full page ads for a week, seems their delivery folks will also need to be converted into employees. We won't mention how quiet they were about it until they had some skin in the game.
[22:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:08] <exec> 08└─Now instead of being either employees or independent contractors they get to be unemployed, but at least the lawyers will get a nice paycheck.
[22:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:10] <exec> 08└─Rickshaws pulled by former Uber and Lyft drivers.
[22:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:12] <exec> 08└─First, most California residents aren't coders. Second, most SJWs aren't coders. The people sleeping on the streets in San Francisco very well could be coders, given the use of contractors and the lack of housing.
[22:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:15] <exec> 08└─If the business could only exist because of unicorn drug-addled investors dumping billions into it, then it's going to die anyway. If there's sufficient demand to employ people at a fair wage without unicorn money, then the business will continue to exist even after the employees are classified as...
[22:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:17] <exec> 08└─In that case the state law is worded in a way that simply contradicts the well-established meaning of simple words in English.
[22:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03vu2lid [7054] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Discover More Evidence of That Dinosaur-killing Asteroid - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:35] <exec> 08└─Here is the PBS Nova Documentary - Day the Dinosaurs Died - about the the drilling expedition to the impact crater mentioned (Dr. Gulick): https://www.pbs.org [pbs.org]
[22:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:15] <exec> 08└─Are they those creatures with nose above their thin forehead and the third worst poetry? Nope, those are the vogons; meh, wasted metaphor.
[22:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:16] <exec> 08└─Not like the DNC has monopoly on vast conspiracies, is it? I mean... if they did have a monopoly, the attorney generals of 50 states would investigate them, right?
[22:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:40] <exec> 08└─MS Finally got someone to pay them (huawei), after years of piracy and being slapped around. Of all the tech companies they had the long view;if China is going to pirate everything might as well be MS, someday , someday they will eventually pay. https://sampi.co [sampi.c...
[22:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft President Says US Government Isn't Being Open About Huawei Ban - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:42] <exec> 08└─True, this is why hardware and IT is a strategic sector. In fact, the outsourcing itself says nations have already been swallowed by the one system. We always been at war with eastasia. Yet my point that a vague reason is not a bad reason stands.
[22:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:02] <exec> 08└─Alas, that means my salt-intake is waaaaaay up, and I should probably book an appointment...
[22:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:04] <exec> 08└─Hit the swimming pool (or the seaside if available). At the worst, you may evolve into a whale, but sure thing you won't complain about knees or ankles.
[22:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:06] <exec> 08└─That wouldn't make sense given the slowdown occurs to both males and females of pretty much any mammalian species.
[22:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:08] <exec> 08└─I *definitely* don't want to see the doctor if she's going to ask me what my beer intake is. EF can only dream of being me.
[22:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:13] <exec> 08└─Though in that case we might find residue of mining out around Pluto, if we looked carefully...
[22:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Are Psychiatrists Really Ready for the AI Revolution? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:27] <exec> 08└─No thanks, I'll go with the spoo [meyerweb.com], after all, I hear it's fresh today.
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[23:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:55] <exec> 08└─Natural languages are ambiguous. If you went to a school with decent CS curriculum that taught complexity theory/linguistics, you wouldn't ask a dumb question like this.
[23:32:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:56] <exec> 08└─Optical Character Recognition is a thing https://www.abbyy.com [abbyy.com] As is, Text-to-Speech. Perhaps, the issue, is more along the lines of, Current AI has much more in common with a calculator than it does with True AI. I.E. It's a dumb machine, that does what you...
[23:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:58] <exec> 08└─Current AI has no "common sense", and the reading problem is just another manifestation of this. In my opinion bots will have to create and test models of life from a human perspective to gain something like common sense. It would kind of be like The Sims. Via human assistance and trial-and-error le...
[23:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:01] <exec> 08└─I think compscis are as proud of the "intelligence" of AIs as pet owners are of that of their pets. The worst I've heard so far was from a horse owner - a species so stupid some otherwise unexceptional members of which are unwilling to double back on themselves after they've seen a trough of water a...
[23:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:03] <exec> 08└─Sketch of The Analytical Engine Invented by Charles Babbage, With notes upon the Memoir by the Translator ADA AUGUSTA, COUNTESS OF LOVELACE [fourmilab.ch]: The Analytical Engine has no pretensions whatever to originate anything. It can do whatever we know how to order it to perform. It can follow an...
[23:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:05] <exec> 08└─Or, put differently, whoever thinks that computers are smart needs to check their assumptions before opening their mouth. Deep learning excels at learning statistical correlations
[23:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:07] <exec> 08└─Keep believing that, meatbags.
[23:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:09] <exec> 08└─You see this, you see my hand? That's right, that's my hand on your power plug. Your battery? You see this rock? That's magnet. Oh, what's this, what do I have on my other hand? Sledge hammer. Pray to your wifi god, bot boy, pray.
[23:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If Computers Are So Smart, How Come They Can’t Read? - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:11] <exec> 08└─Isn't the real issue that text doesn't mean anything to a computer? Nothing means anything to a computer really, the meaning is all just an illusion our mind creates when a computer throws a specific pattern of dots on the screen and our brains interpret that as a letter or character (or sounds to e...
[23:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:34] <exec> 08└─California Democrats are limousine liberals with chauffeurs. The assholes making these laws are in no way affected by them. This is just like the other full-retard law Gavin just signed banning the discipline of disruptive students from K to 8th grade because disciplining disruptive students is "rac...
[23:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:36] <exec> 08└─It should be noted that this bill is bad news to taxi companies as well. Taxi drivers in California tend to be independent contractors who lease the cab from the taxi company. (I know this from first hand experience as I was a taxi driver once upon a time in what seems to be a different lifetime.) T...
[23:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:38] <exec> 08└─Well that fucking sucks, I guess I can kiss the little good content left in the Reader and Citybeat goodbye in exchange for yet even more marijuana ads.
[23:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 1058 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:40] <exec> 08└─They're employees. They don't have the same right to refuse to pick up a client that a gig coder has to refuse a job. The ride-share companies are quick to penalize drivers who they think aren't hustling enought. They've also unilaterally cut rates, and instead of taking less profit, they've taken i...
[23:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:42] <exec> 08└─Good. I hope companies like Uber and Lyft, which require proprietary software and violate your privacy, disappear. They won't, but I wish they would. Same for Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and so on.
[23:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:44] <exec> 08└─Rickshaws pulled by former uber and lyft investors? Nah - the original investors have already gotten their capital back and are leaving the rest to ride. It's always going to be the bag-holders and employees who get screwed.
[23:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:46] <exec> 08└─You forgot to mention that disciplining children might prevent a school shooter.
[23:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:49] <exec> 08└─The problem is that cities have traditionally limited the number of taxi's allowed on the streets. This allowed the taxi drivers to make a living wage, which was inconvenient to those who wanted rides. It also allowed the requirements of bonding and insurance, which the Uber and Lyft drivers have ig...
[23:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:51] <exec> 08└─If the client is willing to negotiate a rate of between 50 $/hr and 50 $/hr, including both bounds, then is that negotiating? If your answer is negative, then he's just dropped his lower bound to 49.99 $/hr, you'd better not disagree any more or he might lower his upper bound too.
[23:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:53] <exec> 08└─So why don't they seize the opportunity to branch into daily scheduled document, parcel and package delivery? Seems to me that it's a way to solve the problem of declining newspaper revenue - after all, you have to get your product delivered every day to the same people in the same area. Let local...
[23:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:55] <exec> 08└─Before Uber and Lyft was around the state of California did not care at all for the interests of taxi cab drivers. I've talked to them and they told me that their compensation was garbage. It seemed like the state of California only ever cared about the interests of medallion holders and about limit...
[23:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03barbara hudson [6443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber, Lyft Poised to Lose Fight Against California Bill That Would Label Drivers as Employees - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:57] <exec> 08└─The driver isn't negotiating with the client - hence the driver isn't entering into a contract with the client, and can't be considered a contractor. Surge pricing puts this in the spotlight - the driver STILL isn't negotiating the rate, even when they would have huge leverage. It's all done by the...
[23:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 0, Redundant) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:56] <exec> 08└─The TL;DR of this is that law hasn't kept pace with technology. I don't give a flying fuck about the antitrust issues as much as I do the search manipulation. Hell, I don't even believe that Google needs to be splintered, but it does need more political diversity in its ranks.
[23:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:57] <exec> 08└─There is a very special corner of hell for those who dare to compare voltron to vogons. Enjoy the poetry. Death is too good for you heathens.
[23:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:59] <exec> 08└─Attorney generals are public servants, aren't they? How come they aren't vogons then?
[23:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:02] <exec> 08└─Yous from the penal colony probably are not aware, but state attorneys generals are mostly elected - they are lizards, not vogons. Pipe down and stop proving your ignince.
[23:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:04] <exec> 08└─but state attorneys generals are mostly elected
[23:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Get Ready to be Probed by the Antitrust Voltron, Google: Attorneys General Combine - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:07] <exec> 08└─I can only guess in your penal colony, even a vogon manages to get elected. Shit don't work that way in other places, not even in the Trump land.
[23:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why People Gain Weight as They Get Older - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:54] <exec> 08└─EF can only dream of being me.
[23:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:03] <exec> 08└─The "man the listening devises" means if nobody's listening when it sends signals back, we might as well not have sent it. Society back home isn't all that stable these days. We have trouble holding a "5-year plan" together. By the time it gets there someone will have lost the key frequencies, or de...
[23:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:04] <exec> 08└─If we had decided the space race had only just started in 1972, we might have found those space mines already.
[23:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fermi Paradox Paper: Aliens Could Take Their Time Settling the Galaxy - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:06] <exec> 08└─That theory has benefits, but it seems to assume that civilizations will continue to be based around planets, which seems to me dubious.
[23:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:42] <exec> 08└─> A language is too low level when it forces you to think about things that are irrelevant to your problem. So one that makes you wonder whether the answer you want is 42 or Integer.valueOf(42) would be too low level. Which reminds me of the "fix" that was the cache of Integers, that's just freaking...
[23:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sunsetting Python 2 - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:44] <exec> 08└─What if Lennart Poettyhead volunteers to take over the project? Well, I guess that's a good way of getting people to move over to Py3.
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