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[16:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:23] <exec> 08└─Is that John McAfee is not going to sever and eat his own genitalia. Who can get invested in cryptocurrency after that kind of lie.
[16:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:25] <exec> 08└─> This is because the 2020 U.S. presidential candidate still [38 days ago] stands by his prediction that bitcoin will reach $1,000,000 by the end of next year. https://finance.yahoo.com [yahoo.com]
[16:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:27] <exec> 08└─More trustworthy than Baltimore govt.
[16:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:29] <exec> 08└─After the mining epoch finishes, if someone suddenly steals all the existing bitcoins, the game is all over, isn't it? He could not spend them either, because everyone would knew it is him... The end of bitcoin, as spectacular as it could be.
[16:14:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 361 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:40] <exec> 08└─You must be new to Internet discussions. Online, you only need to assert something for it to be true, especially if you post anonymously. And if you respond to the post, you're supposed to keep track of which Anonymous Coward is which, using the same powers and technologies that support the assertio...
[16:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:46] <exec> 08└─Licensing would have had nothing to do with it unless they planned on modifying bash itself, which would be entirely unnecessary except in trivial manners that nobody would care about sharing or not. Also, you can write bash scripts all day long, patent them, slap any license you care to on them, an...
[16:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 1474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:48] <exec> 08└─Apple's aversion to GPLv3 is well known, and very possibly well founded*, they've been refusing to put new GPLv3 stuff in for years so phasing out of older dated GPLv2 stuff is natural and expected - in fact I'm surprised it took that long (it's years since I've spent enough time on MacOS to actuall...
[16:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:51] <exec> 08└─Agreed, in principle. However, the point seems more far reaching. Apple wants to be able to make it more difficult to replicate the system at will. Having the potential to create an incompatible shell to reach compatibility with which would take real effort seems to be what Apple wants. See: gcc/llv...
[16:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:53] <exec> 08└─On restricting the Tivoisation clause to consumer products, I recall a major argument being things like medical hardware such as CAT-scan machines, IV medicine dispensers, etc., that can easily kill you and require extensive testing before certification. Requiring signed binaries is a great way to s...
[16:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:55] <exec> 08└─I've been using OSX for probably 12 years or so on laptops and Linux on my desktop since 2000. I had always like my Macs until everything after Snow Leopard. Since then, they just have gotten harder and harder to use and the interface less and less convenient. One example, the maximize button now ma...
[16:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:57] <exec> 08└─When I was your age, we always wrote using a heavy dead-tree brick called a dictionnary, in the dark, and without glasses.
[16:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:59] <exec> 08└─That could be easily solved by a chained signing procedure (like what is the reality of Linux secure boot): binaries must be signed, but you can install additional keys by a more involved/physical procedure. For example, the medical devices could come with a sealed box containing a USB-key that can...
[16:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TechieRefugee [5665] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:02] <exec> 08└─I just recently started playing with zsh myself and a couple of things I like so far are that rather than printing the entire path to your PWD, it just prints the name of your PWD before the prompt (there might be a setting for disabling this on bash, I dunno; never realized how much it bothered me...
[16:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mike [823] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:04] <exec> 08└─"... it just prints the name of your PWD before the prompt (there might be a setting for disabling this on bash, I dunno; never realized how much it bothered me until I switched to zsh)." The bash prompt is adjustable. IIRC, originally it didn't default to showing the current path at all. But you ca...
[16:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─So are csh / tcsh, some like ksh, Plan 9 shell, etc. It partly depends on what you like and are used to. csh supports more programming functionality for advanced scripting, and zsh combines aspects of most of them. You can have bash as your CLI, but still have zsh, csh, tcsh, etc., all installed, an...
[16:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:09] <exec> 08└─In contrast v3 (the actual terms) is over twice as long and not discernibly better at anything other than stirring up controversy exacerbating licence-compatibility problems and turning people i in licensing terms it's tl;du; - too-long didn't-use.
[16:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:11] <exec> 08└─Indeed, I can believe Apple is anti-GPL on principle, but I doubt that spurred this move. Apple people have been complaining ever since they switched to BASH, a lot of people liked tcsh better.
[16:15:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03inertnet [4071] 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 336 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:23] <exec> 08└─If devices are designed to transmit anything while you think that you've switched off the transmitter, it will make it so much easier for thieves to find these expensive devices inside, for instance, locked cars. "Even if I tracked you walking around, I wouldn't be able to recognize you were the sam...
[16:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:32] <exec> 08└─We'll, to be fair, you have to compare Apples to Apples.
[16:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:34] <exec> 08└─I think anything broadcasting Bluetooth unattended including when the device is nominally powered down becomes a more attractive target.
[16:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:36] <exec> 08└─This one is really brilliant. For so long, Cell Phones kept getting smaller & smaller. Becoming so easy to loose. And by the way, very hard to dial -- especially for "people" like me who have very big fingers. They forgot the Big Hands folks. But Apple didn't forget. So they did something else. Know...
[16:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:39] <exec> 08└─If I need Bluetooth, that's great, I'll have it on. Otherwise, why drain your battery by running yet another radio running on it even in receive mode? #GettingRidOfHeadphoneJacksSuck (And a strawman you can conveniently burn is that I have personally observed my devices have less operation time with...
[16:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Blacklisting Predicted to Cause DRAM Prices to Drop 15% - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:50] <exec> 08└─DRAMS, for a long time is something almost nobody could afford. Ever since Ronnie Reagan put MAJOR RESTRICTIONS on them. No more -- because of me. Something nobody thought would happen -- it's happening. You're welcome. Enjoy you're beautiful, and very affordable DRAMS, folks!!!
[16:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03cyberthanasis [5212] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Qualcomm Invests in RISC-V Startup SiFive - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:57] <exec> 08└─I would love to run Linux on a RISC-V computer, provided that Windows is unable to run on it.
[16:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:22] <exec> 08└─Prohibition 2.0 in the USA is in the works.
[16:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:23] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. What exactly is going to be "banned" by the government during "Prohibition 2.0"? Alcohol? I highly doubt that. I'm really interested in what you think will be prohibited this time.
[16:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:25] <exec> 08└─I'd rather risk the Ham Sandwich than the Alcohol. Because I saw what happened to my brother. He was a great guy, a fantastic guy, a handsome person. But he got stuck on alcohol. And it had a profound impact and ultimately Freddy became an alcoholic and died of alcoholism. He would tell me, "don't d...
[16:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:28] <exec> 08└─The act of drinking itself wasn't prohibited then. "Prohibition" is wrongly applied although this was certainly a crusade of the temperance movement. This same act would be a somewhat convenient way of establishing a money laundering operation back then. Today, one might take it down by having the d...
[16:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:50] <exec> 08└─Sounds like 2 words. But in fact it's one very big word. Very big name in the EMAILS and the everything else. 100% American (Jobs). One of our biggest, most successful Companies. And the folks that choose Microsoft Cyber don't worry about these kinds of problems. Be smart!!!!
[16:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency Wallet GateHub Hacked, Nearly $10 Million Stolen - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:03] <exec> 08└─For some strange reason, a lot of people are willing to exchange stuff of value for miscellaneous cryptocurrencies
[16:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Anthropocene Angst and Godzilla's Growth - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:22] <exec> 08└─Shin Gojira [imdb.com] Just my humble opinion; out of all of the movies, and I have seen them all (repeatedly), it is one of the best so far. A worthy reboot to the 1954 original, updated for today's culture.
[16:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Anthropocene Angst and Godzilla's Growth - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:24] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure King Kong has grown faster. He even has a longer track record. His 1933 debut makes him 21 years older. But why let facts get in the way of your hyperbole.
[16:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Anthropocene Angst and Godzilla's Growth - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:26] <exec> 08└─Gojira's size has varied wildly over the years, one of the better size comparison [newsweek.com] charts I've seen
[16:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ajit Pai Works to Cap Funding for Rural and Poor People, Gets GOP Backing - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:44] <exec> 08└─This isn't about me. The folks you want to persuade don't read Soylent, and don't know it exists. Go do your missionary work among the heathens, not on high street.
[16:20:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03CheesyMoo [6853] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Maker Faire & MAKE: Magazine Lays off All Staff & Pauses All Operations - 1372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:45] <exec> 08└─Okay so print media is dead (or dying, if you insist) and corporate sponsors didn't help out at the Faire this year. My question is, how much of this is market forces versus how much would be incompetence by the company? I have been following MAKE nearly since its beginning, and I volunteered at the...
[16:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China So Desperate for Australian Milk they Send Warships to Collect - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:21:46] <exec> 08└─I don't know if it still applies, but there was a fairly long period where New Zealand wouldn't allow in any nuclear armed ships. Since the USA won't confirm which ships have them, it meant that they basically banned the US Navy.
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[17:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:28] <exec> 08└─Hackers more trustworthy, yes. Because they do what they say. But imagine a new advertising slogan to regain people's trust in Bitcoin: Bitcoin -- More Trustworthy than the Baltimore Government !
[17:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:30] <exec> 08└─What? If someone stole ALL the bitcoins, then ECDSA is broken and so is much of the Internet. Plus mining rewards don't end for another 100 years or so.
[17:14:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 1435 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:49] <exec> 08└─I've been using OSX for probably 12 years or so on laptops and Linux on my desktop since 2000. I had always like my Macs until everything after Snow Leopard. Since then, they just have gotten harder and harder to use and the interface less and less convenient. One example, the maximize button now ma...
[17:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:57] <exec> 08└─The bash prompt is adjustable. IIRC
[17:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:00] <exec> 08└─The bash prompt is indeed very customizable, and you can make that the default if you change your .bash_profile (or system-wide in /etc/profile and a few other places). For example, this will put your current path in brackets into the bash prompt: PS1="[ \w ] $"
[17:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:02] <exec> 08└─Of course, if zsh respects the "#!/bin/bash" at the top of those scripts, and you install bash alongside zsh, it is less of a problem, ... unless of course your admins wrote "#!/bin/sh" and just assumed that "sh" always pointed to "bash".
[17:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:04] <exec> 08└─It's been a while since I looked at zsh, but I remember two features that were particularly nice (not sure if they're in recent bash): The ** glob recursively expands directories and replaces a lot of find | xargs uses. For example, **/*.h will find all header files in a directory tree. Global alias...
[17:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:28] <exec> 08└─You still can't verify that the audited code is the production code. At some point, some level of trust is required if you are relying on a third party to do anything for you.
[17:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Blacklisting Predicted to Cause DRAM Prices to Drop 15% - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:41] <exec> 08└─With all that cheap memory, there's plenty of room for additional logic and snarky comments.
[17:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Huawei Blacklisting Predicted to Cause DRAM Prices to Drop 15% - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:42] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] only lists three current DRAM manufacturers: Micron (US), Samsung (SK) and Hynix (SK).
[17:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:17] <exec> 08└─Alcohol consumption is certainly not victimless a lot of the time
[17:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:19] <exec> 08└─Well, but there's more to it than that. At the time a husband usually had legal control over his wife's money and property. Someone who was a drunken gambler could easily impoverish a woman who could otherwise support herself, or even herself and her family. So the roots of the temperance movement a...
[17:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:21] <exec> 08└─Well, but there's more to it than that. At the time a husband usually had legal control over his wife's money and property. Someone who was a drunken gambler could easily impoverish a woman who could otherwise support herself, or even herself and her family.
[17:16:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency Wallet GateHub Hacked, Nearly $10 Million Stolen - 1289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:56] <exec> 08└─Although I take your point and have advocated it myself previously there is also a concept that one can reach an intrinsic valuation [investopedia.com] on anything that you wish to. It just isn't an objective valuation, or more appropriately one has to likewise evaluate the scale or setting which ag...
[17:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Anthropocene Angst and Godzilla's Growth - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:18] <exec> 08└─Tfa says longest 'series'. Summary error.
[17:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06238 Google Play Apps with 440 Million Installs Made Phones Nearly Unusable - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:50] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but don't you get tired of trying to shove the Unisonic phone in your pocket? And that whole thing of having an unbroken line trailing you whenever you leave your desk to go somewhere... Mine always got broken by being run over or people suing me for tripping them whenever I went to the store.
[17:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ajit Pai Works to Cap Funding for Rural and Poor People, Gets GOP Backing - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:38] <exec> 08└─So stating facts is "missionary" work now? Besides, have you read the many comments here parroting the "Ds hate America and want to close your church and town hall and replace them with mosques and Sharia," narrative or something similarly ridiculous? Engaging people in conversation and discussion i...
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[18:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NPC-131072 [7144] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:25] <exec> 08└─Hello frens, While we celebrate this great news, it's important to remember that nazis hide behind comedy [spectator.us] history [twitter.com] and ambient music [twitter.com] Those of us on the morally superior left must resist! [twitter.com]
[18:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:45] <exec> 08└─Get ready for Quantum Break!
[18:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:47] <exec> 08└─Is that like Spring Break, but shorter?
[18:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:49] <exec> 08└─I thought Quantum Break was what happens when Quantum Leap cuts to commercials.
[18:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:20] <exec> 08└─Distributing GPL'd software unmodified still triggers the patent licensing. If someone puts something in bash that infringes an Apple patent and Apple distributes it, then Apple is granting everyone a license to that patent. This means that, if you want to maintain a defensive patent portfolio, then...
[18:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:22] <exec> 08└─If you're writing scripts for deployment on multiple systems, you should be using POSIX shell and #!/bin/sh, not anything specific to bash, zsh, dash, or whatever your favourite interactive shell is. Anything that stops people relying on bashisms for portable UNIX software is a big win.
[18:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:24] <exec> 08└─The method I chews is to sleep with a dictionary. I fined that I tend two absorb the speling by osmosis. Better than speling lessens. It blue my mined how vary much it effected my spelling. Now I can flecks my speling mussels awl the thyme. Now I use a pare of dictionaries with won under my feat. Bu...
[18:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Huawei Blacklisting Predicted to Cause DRAM Prices to Drop 15% - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:02] <exec> 08└─Most consumers buy RAM already installed in a system. ASUS, Acer, TSMC, etc. are based in Taiwan. U.S./South Korea business is obviously not affected* by dueling tariffs. etc. etc. etc. *Not in the same way as U.S./China business.
[18:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Qualcomm Invests in RISC-V Startup SiFive - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:11] <exec> 08└─So if Windows is able to run on it, what do?
[18:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:46] <exec> 08└─Sure, but can we take a moment to amuse ourselves on the use of a human construct as a metaphor for human activity? Tis the age of meta! All those poor 80's kids headbanging to the wrong trend :(
[18:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:10] <exec> 08└─No, the problem is Ubuntu's claim that running old versions is more secure. Recent versions of Ubuntu ship with Exim 4.92, but the long-term support release 16.04 ships with 4.86.2, which is vulnerable. If you aren't using the LTS version of Ubuntu, then you're fine. If you are, then you have a pote...
[18:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:11] <exec> 08└─Off topic, but does Debian / apt have an equivalent of FreeBSD's 'pkg audit' command to tell me if there are any known (published) vulnerabilities in installed packages?
[18:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maggotbrain [6063] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:13] <exec> 08└─You might want to take a look at the apt-listbugs package https://packages.debian.org [debian.org]. "apt-listbugs is a tool which retrieves bug reports from the Debian Bug Tracking System and lists them. Especially, it is intended to be invoked before each installation/upgrade by AP...
[18:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:15] <exec> 08└─Both are "mail servers", if it comes down to semantics.
[18:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ajit Pai Works to Cap Funding for Rural and Poor People, Gets GOP Backing - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:13] <exec> 08└─:facepalm: The cycle continues.
[18:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Want Good Night Sleep? Delete That Sleep-Tracking App, Expert Advises - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:49] <exec> 08└─Typos are forever.
[18:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Barnes & Noble set to be Sold to Elliott Management for about $683 Million - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:12] <exec> 08└─Any chance that they'll sell ebooks to people outside the USA again?
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[19:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:12] <exec> 08└─The rest of this is ultimately a smokescreen, however much it may motivate activists on either side it doesn't matter to the companies involved. Legacy media is dying, and they're demanding alphabet prop them up. Both by demonetizing and banning anyone that dares to take them on, and by "raising up...
[19:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:13] <exec> 08└─Eh, youtube isn't the only channel on the internet. If they want to shed some of their audience, let them.
[19:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:15] <exec> 08└─"Removing more hateful and supremacist content from YouTube" remember whitey, continuing to exist is supremacist. "by specifically prohibiting videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, relig...
[19:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:17] <exec> 08└─Vox Media has its turn. Luckily, its own employees will lead to its downfall: Vox Union Reaches Accord With Publisher a Day After Walkout [bloomberg.com] Bonus: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[19:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:20] <exec> 08└─Some content is clearly undesirable (pro-Nazi rants, holocaust deniers, Islamic State promotional videos) but a lot is borderline. Who's the censors at Google, and by what rules do they judge what's acceptable and what isn't? And acceptable for whom? I realize Google is a private company and they de...
[19:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:22] <exec> 08└─by specifically prohibiting videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status.
[19:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:24] <exec> 08└─ISP's are next to censor content.
[19:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:26] <exec> 08└─In the end, it is really simple. Either private companies have no right to dominate public speech channels or private companies have to comply with free speech rights. We should give them a choice - stay below 1% of population engagement or allow free speech.
[19:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:29] <exec> 08└─AT&T in the days of its glory, got its ass handed to it for less.
[19:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NPC-131072 [7144] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:31] <exec> 08└─Hello fren, Are you saying the media are acting like a cartel or something? No platforms for nazis [thepostmillennial.com] is not a difficult concept. There need be no financial incentive [nytimes.com] to do the right thing.
[19:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:33] <exec> 08└─"Finally, we will remove content denying that well-documented violent events, like the Holocaust or the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary, took place."
[19:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:35] <exec> 08└─I realize Google is a private company and they decide what activities they want on their networks. Still, Youtube videos have an impact on public opinions and policies, so I feel we-the-people and our elected representatives should have a say in this
[19:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:38] <exec> 08└─They are the first! The only real issue with the internet is service provision. It's too easy to block.
[19:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:40] <exec> 08└─That is because the courts had not yet been acquired by corporate America. Only the politicians.
[19:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:42] <exec> 08└─"alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation" Yeah... so that would be a ban on "Allahu Akbar". Often badly mistranslated, it means something more like "our god is greate...
[19:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:44] <exec> 08└─"Wah they're attacking Joe Rogan for the fake crime of constantly having guests on whose positions include ethnic cleansing" The intellectual vacuousness of "You call everyone you don't like nazis" (But please ignore that the article I'm losing my mind over clearly differentiated between being nazis...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:47] <exec> 08└─Everything would be ideallic and conflict free if we would simply have the will to eliminate all conflicts at the source. The root cause of conflict is diversity of opinion. Force everyone to have the same opinion, and also force them to like it. Now you have no conflicts, but have eliminated divers...
[19:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─You can always just do it yourself [duckduckgo.com]. What's that? It's harder to make money [investopedia.com] that way? I guess the question then becomes, "Why am I posting this stuff? Am I trying to get ideas and arguments in which I believe out there? Am I posting what I *think* will get me as ma...
[19:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CERN’s LHCb Experiment Reports Observation of Exotic Pentaquark Particles - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:56] <exec> 08└─Make a big boom or gtfo.
[19:15:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 287 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:44] <exec> 08└─If you're writing scripts for deployment on multiple systems, you should be using POSIX shell and #!/bin/sh, not anything specific to bash, zsh, dash, or whatever your favourite interactive shell is. Anything that stops people relying on bashisms for portable UNIX software is a big win.
[19:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:47] <exec> 08└─I could read and understand GPLv2. GPLv3 is difficult to impossible to understand. And even worse is LGPLv3. It $INCLUDEs the entire GPLv3 into it before adding even more text. There are other, even moderately long, open source licenses that I can read and comprehend.
[19:15:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:49] <exec> 08└─> Are you saying that v3 is the systemd of GPL? Probably - at least in that I use neither...
[19:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03nishi.b [4243] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:51] <exec> 08└─The explanation I read years ago was that the GPL 2 was beeing abused in the following way: a company uses a GPL software and modifies it. As long as it is not distributed, they do not have to distribute their modifications to the source code. Some companies then argued that they created appliances...
[19:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:53] <exec> 08└─it sounds like you are describing the AGPL, not just GPLv3.
[19:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:18] <exec> 08└─This is probably using some features of Bluetooth Low Energy which is included in Bluetooth 4.0 and above. It doesn’t use standard Bluetooth modulation or protocols and was designed to work with ultra low power devices like coin cell powered devices. Inherent to BLE is a randomised and encrypted a...
[19:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Qualcomm Invests in RISC-V Startup SiFive - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:40] <exec> 08└─Take it out behind the shed, put a bullet in it :). Don't want that disease spreading.
[19:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Qualcomm Invests in RISC-V Startup SiFive - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:42] <exec> 08└─I'm glad SiFive got investment but i'm sure Qualcomm will find a way to scum it up.
[19:17:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 1019 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:01] <exec> 08└─Not quite the same thing, but many states still have bizarre alcohol laws in the U.S., many tied to food. For example, in Pennsylvania [wikipedia.org], you can only sell beer and wine if you sell food. (Mostly: there are exceptions for beer distributors and wineries.) That has led to the bizarre sit...
[19:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:40] <exec> 08└─you goofballs are supposed to be using postfix, ffs.
[19:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency Wallet GateHub Hacked, Nearly $10 Million Stolen - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:56] <exec> 08└─lmao! if you were holding xrp you deserve to have all your coin stolen. banksters' slaves!
[19:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Anthropocene Angst and Godzilla's Growth - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:19] <exec> 08└─Bah... reviewers almost never like movies that I like. It's a Godzilla movie! What did they expect? I expected giant monsters fighting each other with humans underfoot, and got exactly that. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Why should I care about some artsy-fartsy reviewer who didn't?
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[20:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Touché) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:22] <exec> 08└─meet the real world!
[20:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:23] <exec> 08└─"Man bites Dog" racist dogwhistle article?
[20:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:25] <exec> 08└─Forget about World Wart III . . . we are now fighting the Third-World War.
[20:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:28] <exec> 08└─The blacks and the college dean have no morals.
[20:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:30] <exec> 08└─A good example of extremism. Glad this time they got what they deserved.
[20:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:32] <exec> 08└─And look who came running in with his Lilly white tail wagging. Runaway just can't shake his KKK roots.
[20:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:35] <exec> 08└─That is probably more than a single bakery can make in a lifetime, they can all retire, especially if they get the triple amount
[20:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:01] <exec> 08└─The thing is, to replace Youtube, all that needs to happen is that some other video site offers competing content that's better. And hosting videos is a pretty easy thing to do: There are free tools you can use as video players, the data is a few hundred MB, it's so simple I could figure it out with...
[20:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mer [8009] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:02] <exec> 08└─The stinker is that despite cranking the vice again and again they each time take down pundits that have unpopular opinions but are by no mean fascists and the nazi problem doesn't really shrink. It's true you've got the scum of the earth using the platforms, actual nazis, pedophiles, terrorists......
[20:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:05] <exec> 08└─This solution is unworkable as described. How will it lead to increased taxes, increased spying, and/or increased bans on stuff people like?
[20:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:07] <exec> 08└─1) I believe that YouTube has the right to host whatever content, or ban whatever content, they want. Free speech does not guarantee that a multinational corporation will distribute your speech for free. And before you ask, no, I do not think a cake-baker in West Jesus, Missouri should be forced to...
[20:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:09] <exec> 08└─and by "raising up authoritative voices" which is code for promoting properties of the big media companies.
[20:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:11] <exec> 08└─Don't be daft. Of course not. You just outlawed marketing :)
[20:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:14] <exec> 08└─There's a sci-fi dystopia novel in here somewhere...
[20:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:16] <exec> 08└─a cake-baker in West Jesus, Missouri should be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding. If they want to turn away a customer, let them fuck themselves all they want.
[20:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1076 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:18] <exec> 08└─> Also, your argument applied to print media would demand that the New York Times.... Don't be a tard, or expect everyone else here to be one. The NYT is clearly a publisher and this free to publish or not publish with very few restrictions other than settlements in or out of court when (not if)( th...
[20:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:20] <exec> 08└─Shhhhh... Don't tell them!
[20:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:23] <exec> 08└─Remember, SJWs Always Lie. While they did nuke every mention of Nazis, apparently including every documentary on WWII (ironic to do that right after the big D-Day remembrance, or is it?) that wasn't their real target, only chaff. They are nuking the anti-vaxxers, the low card diet promoters, Anti Wa...
[20:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:25] <exec> 08└─Wah they're attacking Joe Rogan for the fake crime of constantly having guests on whose positions include ethnic cleansing
[20:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:24] <exec> 08└─Shirley Apple is not preventing a developer from installing bash themselves. Of course, that still has a problem if you want to write scripts to run on someone else's machine.
[20:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:26] <exec> 08└─Colors are nice addition if done right. Around here, one thing we do is change the color of the user and "host" portions of the prompt depending on the logged in user and the hostname and IP address. This prevents some of losing where you are in tmux/screen and where you are logged in. Going to run...
[20:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mer [8009] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:53] <exec> 08└─What brands are you buying that makes smaller and smaller phones? Most phones coming out today are larger than my old CLIÉ, only thinner.
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[21:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:16] <exec> 08└─2019 Build Castle 2020 Fill castle moat with lava 2021 Kidnap princess 2022 plumber uses axe to chop bridge, dropping me into lava
[21:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:31] <exec> 08└─I see a future with a franchise bakery outside of every university.
[21:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:32] <exec> 08└─Students: commit crime. Pretty much undisputed. College faculty get in on a politically-correct hatefest against the crime victims. College faculty, among other people, make unsupported, strongly negative statements against crime victims. Some folks in a jury say this ain't right. Guess all the juro...
[21:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:35] <exec> 08└─You might be surprised at how much a bakery can make. Note that the elder of the two owners is in his 90's. He has devoted a long life to the bakery. All the dollars the bakery has made in that lifetime, adjusted for inflation? The net profit may well exceed 10 million of today's dollars.
[21:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:37] <exec> 08└─The Tennessee Star looks like a local newspaper, but it's not. It is a news aggregator/opinion site with significant bias and unknown ownership.
[21:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:39] <exec> 08└─I think covered on John Oliver a few weeks/months back. I forget who the central owner is, but they have 'local newspaper' websites all over the US pushing stories like these to foment discord between ethnic groups, locals, and other people who don't factcheck. Take it with a grain of salt until you...
[21:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:41] <exec> 08└─^Found the SJW^ Real justice is sweet! Fuck the SJW's.
[21:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:44] <exec> 08└─It's something, eh? It isn't enough for rich spoiled rotten SJW fucktards who hate America, but it's something. When the school adds a fee to cover the fine, some Antifa might have to skimp on the high-fashion designer assault costumes. Basically the reaction was: "How dare you hold persons of color...
[21:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 2409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:46] <exec> 08└─That's what I said when it happened in New York. In Central Park in New York. Lady goes Jogging in Central Park. And the Rapists, the Murderers & the Muggers got her. Raped her. Beat her. And left her for dead. She wasn't dead. But, she didn't remember what happened -- Brain Damage. I said, I want t...
[21:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:48] <exec> 08└─ftfy: Take it with a grain of salt until you can verify the court cast, local news coverage, and other details.
[21:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:27] <exec> 08└─Twitter? You linked to Twitter!! You must be new here. Only TRDT links to Twitter.
[21:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Captival [6866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:28] <exec> 08└─The Chinese Government denies Tianneman Square. Google is happy to work with them. Half the Middle East denies the Holocaust. Google is happy to work with them. Europe spent a decade covering up multiple massive child rape/sex slave operations in their own countries. Google is happy to work with the...
[21:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:31] <exec> 08└─Someone else did a better breakdown than I ever could [twitter.com] Since that doesn't actually list the worst offenders: *Peter Bogghossian, a real piece of shit with the flimsiest of academic covers. Has written that all Muslims should be seen as exactly as threatening as Islamists because a gros...
[21:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:33] <exec> 08└─That's the paranoid alt-righty way of looking at sure. Especially, when you're already using terms like "alternative-facts". How's that saying go? You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts?
[21:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:35] <exec> 08└─People choose YouTube over IndieWeb solutions in order to have a chance to be listed in the recommended videos at the right colum of a YouTube video page. Recommendation is something that IndieWeb has historically failed at [indieweb.org]. Let's say I were to set up video on my own website. Now I ne...
[21:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:37] <exec> 08└─Now that sounds like a damn good idea. Jesus could have said, "marketing is the root of all evil".
[21:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:39] <exec> 08└─The Chinese Government denies Tianneman Square. Google is happy to work with them.
[21:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:42] <exec> 08└─I'd guess it was Lois Lowry's The Giver, but that title might call to mind the second page of Goatse.
[21:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:44] <exec> 08└─Very sad what's happening on Twitter. Twitter should let the banned Conservative Voices back onto their platform, without restriction. It’s called Freedom of Speech, remember. They are making a Giant Mistake!!
[21:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:46] <exec> 08└─Huxley's Brave New World. For example The World Consensus Encyclopedia. In Orwell's 1984 not everyone did think alike, even if that was what everyone was supposed to do. In Brave New World, everyone was drugged out on Soma to avoid the pain of real life.
[21:16:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 781 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:38] <exec> 08└─Distributing GPL'd software unmodified still triggers the patent licensing. If someone puts something in bash that infringes an Apple patent and Apple distributes it, then Apple is granting everyone a license to that patent. This means that, if you want to maintain a defensive patent portfolio, then...
[21:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:47] <exec> 08└─My Man.. ,br> I hate that maximize problem. I use spectacle for window management which has a real full screen action. Natural scrolling gets me every time, but at least they give you a system preferences setting for it. They have been going downhill for a while but its not as bad as windows though...
[21:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:49] <exec> 08└─Ah, indeed, you opinion is to be held in much higher regard than mine because I am Anonymous Coward and you are RS3. We can draw great distinction between the two of us because I didn't sign up and post anonymously while you signed up for a "handle" and post anonymously.
[21:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:51] <exec> 08└─That is an option, and stop calling me Shirley Apple. I am AC, hear me roar.
[21:16:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:54] <exec> 08└─"The bash prompt is adjustable" everything gnu is adjustable. and adjustable. and adjustable. no time to get anything done, gotta adjust.
[21:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:56] <exec> 08└─Bash (readline) has double asterisk too, added with v4. "shopt globstar" to check status (default is off, IIRC). shopt -s to set, or -u to unset. For alias expansion, I guess what you mean and need is alias-expand-line, not bind to anything by default.
[21:17:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 512 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:04] <exec> 08└─The only way to truly know that such a feature works as advertised, has no backdoors, doesn't track, doesn't retain info it claims not to, etc. would be the ability to audit the source code. Unfortunately, of course, Apple is not likely to release that. So, no, I don't have any good reason to believ...
[21:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:19] <exec> 08└─Caffiene.
[21:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:47] <exec> 08└─It's the graybeard Qmail Admins laughing at the postfix and exim hipsters...
[21:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New RCE Vulnerability Impacts Nearly Half of the Internet's Email Servers - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:48] <exec> 08└─The official Debian tool is the DEBian SECurity ANalyzer, with the somewhat poorly named package "debsecan" in the repos. It does depend on Python (2 or 3 depending on your release) and recommends Exim (so if you don't want Exim, then "--no-install-recommends" is highly recommended).
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[22:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:12] <exec> 08└─Pay - provided I'm 100% my private data isn't sold behind my back anyway.
[22:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:14] <exec> 08└─:-) You will never know for sure.... Six months from now you will read about another data "leak"...
[22:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:16] <exec> 08└─How naive and innocent to believe paying keeps data from being monetized... give your pet unicorn a hug for me.
[22:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:18] <exec> 08└─These guys have been busy tanking their usage percentage for years; who the FUCK do they think is going to PAY to use the pathetic Chrome-imitating-but-not-as-good, hey-we-used-to-have-a-good-extension-system-oops-we-got-rid-of-it drivel FF has become? The should just take Firefox out behind the she...
[22:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:20] <exec> 08└─Yep. That's mostly why I never pay for promises I'm sold that I can't verify.
[22:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:23] <exec> 08└─We're talking about Mozilla here. They'll use your money to pay executive bonuses and then use the money from monetizing your data to install new bathrooms for several additional genders. Win-win.
[22:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:25] <exec> 08└─Aah, the beauty of irony...
[22:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe someone that doesn't want to give Google anything more than they have to. Enjoy your ads and google tracking.
[22:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mer [8009] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:29] <exec> 08└─Maybe you can use an adblocker with it but it seems pretty counterproductive. Brave is 100% ad-centric. It blocks ads by defaul (and replaces them with crypto mining, behaviour tracking and a slew of other stupid shit but that's not the point). Whoever is using brave is either believing in their pon...
[22:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:32] <exec> 08└─The problem with paying Mozilla is that that implies we approve of all the nonsense they've been doing with Firefox development for the last several years. If I could pay them a negative amount of money to get them to stop mangling Firefox further, I would.
[22:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:34] <exec> 08└─hey-we-used-to-have-a-good-extension-system-oops-we-got-rid-of-it
[22:14:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 144 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:50] <exec> 08└─The Tennessee Star looks like a local newspaper, but it's not. It is a news aggregator/opinion site with significant bias and unknown ownership.
[22:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:56] <exec> 08└─... dog whistling. Disappointed and sad.
[22:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:59] <exec> 08└─SJW administration goes back to their tenured gender study "research", students get a tuition increase to pay off the judgment along with some donations made by alumni.
[22:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:01] <exec> 08└─These assholes took an incident of someone attempting to purchase booze with a fake ID and getting caught, and blew it all out of proportion just to get "street cred" after firing some crackpot professor who happened to be be black. Read the PDF in the second link; it is astoundingly clear that ther...
[22:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:03] <exec> 08└─The people truly responsible for this won't pay a single penny from their own pocket. The "college" will pay, which means every single student, including the black ones, present and future, and the teachers with their paycuts; that is for those who won't get fired to balance the budget. That's justi...
[22:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:05] <exec> 08└─Is the dumbest fucking term I've come across lately. If everyone can know the clear intent of something then how is it a "dog whistle"?
[22:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:08] <exec> 08└─Oh go fuck yourself with this dog whistle bullshit. Explain exactly what racist thing occurred.
[22:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:10] <exec> 08└─Oh yes, I get it. As The Ohio Star reported Sunday:
[22:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:12] <exec> 08└─Snowflakes don't stand a chance when confronted with the power of black ice [youtu.be]! Or the other way around in this case. Something like that.
[22:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:14] <exec> 08└─The problem is probably the source. As pointed out above The Tennessee Star is not a local news site, but is one of many carbon-copy sites made to specifically appear to be local news sites. They purposefully run stories designed to foster outrage. It's a real shame you Americans are so frightene...
[22:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:03] <exec> 08└─For the first time in my life I'm going to pull all my archives from Gmail and be prepared to have all my Google stuff shut down for "hate speech." Too bad my university uses Google services, I was really enjoying having my own .edu address.
[22:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:05] <exec> 08└─You are not quite correct. What is FACT? A thing done; an action performed or an Incident transpiring; an event or circumstance; an actual occurrence. In the earlier days of the law “fact” was used almost exclusively in the sense of “action”or “deed;” but, although this usage survives, i...
[22:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:07] <exec> 08└─Many "proud" voices silenced at Facebook. They banned Minister Farrakhan, Alex/Infowars, Laura Loomer, and the fabulous Milo Y. Along with many others. And, I tried to tell you. But, censored by Editor Janrinok because, "oh, that's political." It's political because it came from me. If it came from...
[22:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:09] <exec> 08└─So you're saying people putting out fiction and trying to portray them as fact, then. Thank you.
[22:16:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:11] <exec> 08└─From what I understand, Youtube was operating at a loss because a monster like Google could afford to host fuckhuge amounts of data files like videos, for free, to be data-mined. Unfortunately, only monsters have the pockets deep enough to maintain an unpaid video hosting service. Which is why we al...
[22:16:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:14] <exec> 08└─I agree with you. Now will you put down the gun?
[22:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:16] <exec> 08└─This moronic farce (which becomes even more moronic when you realize that this poseur can't even touch the levels of idiocy of the real deal) of a user,rDT [soylentnews.org] is here to soak up downmods so that other folks get a pass as everyone is downmodding this garbage. I mean, what other reason...
[22:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:18] <exec> 08└─Uhhhhhh, no. Alternative facts in this case refers to that scarecrow Kelly Anne responding to facts contrasted with Whitehouse lies by saying, "These are alternative facts". Meaning, you can have two diametrically opposing statements of information, one a fact, one a lie, and somehow they both becom...
[22:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:20] <exec> 08└─How did you get to 2nd page of Goatse?
[22:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:22] <exec> 08└─Well, point in fact, marketing uses the tools of the root of all evil; Deception and Manipulation. I remember learning about marketing at one point, and it was exceedingly clear. Marketing was about manipulation at its core, and the truth was entirely unnecessary, and in some cases, counter producti...
[22:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:25] <exec> 08└─You're free to exercise your religion, but only to the extent it doesn't affect others or their liberty. You're not free to use you're religion, or your freedom of religion, to justify discrimination. That's bullshit.
[22:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03sshelton76 [7978] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:47] <exec> 08└─Interesting articles and summary. Especially good timing. We just finished building our crypto-exchange platform and we discussed the possibility of exactly this kind of attack, and eventually decided to not use certain frameworks and techniques that would have made it easier for us to scale, but al...
[22:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:34] <exec> 08└─or we just took one damn minute to proofread things manually before submitting them
[22:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:35] <exec> 08└─And yet you still offer no evidence.
[22:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:37] <exec> 08└─You're showing your stupidity, and my next sentence pointing it out feels like taking candy from a child. See, the difference is, when people here want to have a discussion they can have a continuum when there's consistency in addressing someone by a unique identifier. Most of you ACs just want to c...
[22:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:40] <exec> 08└─I am not running snow leopard any longer, it was EOLed some time ago. I was just saying that snow leopard was the last version I liked. I don't even pay attention the names any more. I'm running various versions of $someMountain on each of my machines. With the machine I have connected to my CNC I w...
[22:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:42] <exec> 08└─Oh -- and thank you for spectacle!
[22:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:44] <exec> 08└─Colors are nice addition if done right. Around here, one thing we do is change the color of the user and "host" portions of the prompt depending on the logged in user and the hostname and IP address. This prevents some of losing where you are in tmux/screen and where you are logged in.
[22:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:46] <exec> 08└─Bash kicked my dog and made unkind comments about my trousers being out of style.
[22:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:13] <exec> 08└─True, though if you actually have access to the source code, you should be able to compile it yourself if you so choose. I realize many people may not choose to do that, but it's possible with open source. It's not when the source is not available.
[22:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:15] <exec> 08└─Yea, but you still can't verify the back end software being run by Apple, even if you compile it. To do that, Apple would have to let literally anyone come in at any time and run their own hash function generator against the binaries they are running in production to verify they match the binaries c...
[22:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VacuumTube [7693] (Score: 1) 02 - 06To Evade Pre-Prohibition Drinking Laws, New Yorkers Created the World's Worst Sandwich - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:13] <exec> 08└─"the 'drug war' that cannot be 'won' and is of benefit only to padding the pockets of the police industrial complex." Correct, but don't forget the "press industrial complex", who also benefit. It's a symbiotic relationship.
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[23:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces New Xbox Console and xCloud Streaming Game Service - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:06] <exec> 08└─Oh cool even more ways for me to not own my stuff that I pay for! Sign me up!
[23:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Announces New Xbox Console and xCloud Streaming Game Service - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:07] <exec> 08└─And this time it doesn't mean Direct Rendering Manager, but that Digital Rights Management crap. Now you don't even own/audit the data inside your own GPU anymore!
[23:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:26] <exec> 08└─A proper non-profit/not-for-profit supporting an open source codebase and a minimally hands-on series of web services. They shouldn't be doing social outreach. They shouldn't be pretending they're a movement. They should only have one mission goal and focus on that. And anyone involved who wants to...
[23:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:28] <exec> 08└─I'd absolutely consider paying if the premium services represented a good value add for me. I'd seriously consider donating otherwise. "The should just take Firefox out behind the shed, shoot it in the head, and ask somebody else to take over the codebase. Or I guess it's already open source, so...u...
[23:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:30] <exec> 08└─Six months? Damn but you're an optimist.
[23:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 1175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:32] <exec> 08└─Pay, but only for purely open source code. Instead of having licensing and all that bullshit, just charge for support and access to blacklisting services. Make it a service actually worth paying for. The features are super simple: 1) Fingerprint anonymization - Collect all fingerprints from existing...
[23:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Future of Browsers - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:34] <exec> 08└─See subject. I'm on Falkon and learning to use Surf. I've been warning people for years now that corporations and moneyed interests are going to turn what used to be general-purpose computing into a commercialized, Balkanized Hellscape, and as usual, no one listens to Cassandra^W Marissa. It's being...
[23:14:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 367 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:52] <exec> 08└─I think covered on John Oliver a few weeks/months back. I forget who the central owner is, but they have 'local newspaper' websites all over the US pushing stories like these to foment discord between ethnic groups, locals, and other people who don't factcheck. Take it with a grain of salt until you...
[23:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:06] <exec> 08└─Jacobson - scandinaviuan IMIGRANT! Gockowski - polish IMAGRUNT! froth, foam, froth, foam!!!!
[23:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:08] <exec> 08└─no no no - an armed society is a *polite* society, not a *frightened* one.
[23:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:10] <exec> 08└─You seem concerned by this - are you a socialist justice worrier?
[23:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:12] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, they will raise tuition and Snowflakes will beg Uncle Bernie to wipe their College Debt clean.
[23:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 1022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:14] <exec> 08└─It takes 5 seconds (click their DMCA link to find who owns the IP on the site(s), type the owning company's name into your favourite search engine) to find this: https://www.snopes.com """ Hiding in Plain Sight: PAC-Connected Activists Set Up ‘Loca...
[23:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:16] <exec> 08└─SJW must write a paper. Title page: "_____ is Racist", I'll fill that out later, once I get more of an idea of what I can libel.
[23:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:18] <exec> 08└─Your opinion of the Tennessee star is valid IMVHO. But in this case, link to the story in the NY Times [nytimes.com], unless they got duped.
[23:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:21] <exec> 08└─True. In this case, however, the New York times has repeated the claims outlines in the story (see above under ElizabethGreene's post). Maybe sometimes a cigar is just a method of killing yourself?
[23:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:23] <exec> 08└─Yes, and note the links in the summary right here to CNN and Inside Higher Ed. Plenty of other info about this case out there.
[23:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:25] <exec> 08└─What source? Sorry, but look at the freakin' summary, which is a quote from a CNN article, with the link to the CNN article at the top. The only Tennessee Star link is near the bottom of the summary, which just gives the further detail about the email, which is also mentioned in the CNN article and...
[23:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bakery Wins Defamation Case Against Oberlin College - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:27] <exec> 08└─+1 Yes! Read the PDF. As a non-yank, it's fascinating how messy a game of chess this has become. It's becoming clear how one side was playing the long game, and I'm only up to page 9.
[23:15:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 1787 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:53] <exec> 08└─You can always just do it yourself [duckduckgo.com]. What's that? It's harder to make money [investopedia.com] that way? I guess the question then becomes, "Why am I posting this stuff? Am I trying to get ideas and arguments in which I believe out there? Am I posting what I *think* will get me as ma...
[23:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:27] <exec> 08└─Hardly 'alt-right'. The numbers prove it. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[23:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:29] <exec> 08└─That's not really necessary. All we have to do is actually give them the option of complying with the common carrier rules (no moderation of content) or they get the same regulation (and liability) as other publishers. That'd shut this down quickly, because they simply can't afford to actually curat...
[23:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:31] <exec> 08└─Damn jmorris, always asking for more regulation...
[23:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:33] <exec> 08└─Personally I'm dubious but keeping an eye on the anti-vax movement. They have really upped the number of things they vaccinate kids against in a pretty short time. So the evidence to date isn't convincing but the reaction implies there is something being hidden from the public. The government would...
[23:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:35] <exec> 08└─'Speak friend and enter'
[23:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:38] <exec> 08└─Click..through? Click on? Find the hyperlinked pixel*? *do not do this at work
[23:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:40] <exec> 08└─I'm hear to talk about -- write about -- the News. The REAL NEWS. And the very politically biased, very Censored & twisted version of it that they call Soylent News. But you, apparently are here to censor. And kiss the asses of youre fellow censors. Enjoy!
[23:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:42] <exec> 08└─abandoned plans to actually release the rumored GFW-compliant Dragonfly search engine
[23:16:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:44] <exec> 08└─Geez Louise! I didn't even mod you down. Why don't you give it a rest, friend. Doesn't it make your head hurt to blather on like that? What's more, I'm not censoring you. I'm not even calling you a moron. I'm saying that your moronic blather doesn't even match the levels of dumb of the jackass you p...
[23:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Clamps Down Further on Undesireable Speech - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:16:47] <exec> 08└─Soo~ooo, what you're saying is some sane, targeted regulation might be just what the doctor ordered...? :) My, my, my...
[23:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:10] <exec> 08└─But, you'll never hear the FULL story from Soylent News. Because Politically Biased Editors "don't think it makes sense" to put up the rest of the story. They censored that one. Because the Mayor of Baltimore is -- you guessed it -- a Dem. foxnews.com/tech/google-baltimores-ransomware-attack [foxnew...
[23:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency News - A Round-Up of Submissions - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:12] <exec> 08└─It's like there are some 5 people who say they invented the telephone. :) It's sad having superior technology isn't enough and often gets trumped by superior marketing etc bs.
[23:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:05] <exec> 08└─That makes scents.
[23:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Does MacOS Catalina Use Zsh Instead of Bash? - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:06] <exec> 08└─I am AC, hear me roar.
[23:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Clever Cryptography Behind Apple’s “Find My” Feature - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:36] <exec> 08└─Trust Apple or not, this is a pretty cool scheme and potentially worth adopting more widely outside iDevices. With network meshes becoming more ubiquitous as our connective tech evolves, beyond 5G and bluetooth 5 even, things like these will be more realizable at a global scale, even more importantl...
[23:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptocurrency Wallet GateHub Hacked, Nearly $10 Million Stolen - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:20:20] <exec> 08└─Cookies in browsers are not secure, especially with the Intel hacks that can be implemented in JavaScript to dump cookies in other sessions.
[23:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ajit Pai Works to Cap Funding for Rural and Poor People, Gets GOP Backing - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:22:05] <exec> 08└─I would argue that as you have never managed more than two parties in over 200 years of voting, your system is broken. If your politicians are not frightened of losing their jobs they won't listen, and as yours almost never lose, they don't.
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