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[12:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Captival [6866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:24] <exec> 08└─Offer them the opportunity to enrich themselves via corruption, bribery and graft. Suddenly they will become very interested in public transportation.
[12:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:25] <exec> 08└─Moving cars around is not what most people deem "public transportation" The boring test tunnel is a similar width as a typical tube tunnel, which can carry about 30,000 people an hour
[12:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 1946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:28] <exec> 08└─Elon came to me, he asked for my blessing for the tunnel from New York to Washington. Going through Philadelphia and Baltimore. I said, hold on. Because I heard, the girth isn't big. So many tunnels are tremendously big around, you could be inside one and not even know it. But Elon's are not, they'r...
[12:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:36] <exec> 08└─I only have two real concerns about this device: 1) The hardware is laughably outdated 2) There will probably never even be as many apps as on fdroid currently. It's too bad really, because a Linux phone would be something I'd really like and would even pay that kind of money for.
[12:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:38] <exec> 08└─If you trust the power management chip, and you trust the OS, then these switches should be unnecessary because there's already a pair of switches to each of the peripherals - namely their power domain and their clock domain. Without power they'll do nothing, without a clock they'll go nowhere. If y...
[12:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:40] <exec> 08└─Those are good points. When I turn off wifi or mobile data on my android phone, I can see the difference in battery life without any doubt. I suppose they could still occasionally kick on and scan something though, which wouldn't satisfy someone if they're that paranoid about it.
[12:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:42] <exec> 08└─Phone. Possibly voip calls. SMS. Hat is all a mobile phone needs. Add a browser, remove the need for many "apps" Why does a phone have to double as a tablet or tiny laptop?
[12:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:45] <exec> 08└─Too many "ifs". With a mechanical switch (and an X-ray of the circuit board that shows no extra traces that could circumvent the switch), off really means off.
[12:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:47] <exec> 08└─Why does a phone have to double as a tablet or tiny laptop?
[12:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheFool [7105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:49] <exec> 08└─It is the only truly correct way to go about it. But yes, it's probably overkill for most. Trusting a piece of software to be bug-free is a very bold statement (some might claim it's an impossible one), and the OS is only software. So, no, I can't trust it. I can accept that I can't trust it - but i...
[12:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:57] <exec> 08└─Original article -> Phoronix article -> redox-os.org -> Redox-OS documentation -> Redox book -> "What Redox is", where I finally find out WTF this thing actually is (a Posix microkernel written in Rust), and why I don't care about it.
[12:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:00] <exec> 08└─It's not even planned to be POSIX compliant.
[12:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:02] <exec> 08└─Oh, this page [redox-os.org] says "We have modest compatibility with POSIX, allowing Redox to run many programs without porting", so I assumed there'd be Posix there. If not then I'm even less interested in it.
[12:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:04] <exec> 08└─It's the second article published on Redox OS in a month so I didn't want to be redundant or seem like I'm trying to draw the summary out. But, and forgive me as I know this may seem like a big stretch, you could scroll down to the bottom of the summary and see links to prior Soylent News stories on...
[12:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:12] <exec> 08└─I've seen this number get inflated from the originally reported 57K or so first to 500K and then to "Million-ish" in the span of a day. Talk about clickbait.
[12:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:14] <exec> 08└─Maybe they got new data and wanted to err on the side of caution, like proper investigators should... I personally think this is news because of the official source. Even 1 machine is too many.
[12:38:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:16] <exec> 08└─They confirmed 57K infected users, because those were running Kaspersky software. They estimate that about 1 million people total were infected by using the compromised Asus software.
[12:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:18] <exec> 08└─> That infected build of the utility was designed to spy on roughly 600 machines, identified by their network MAC addresses. So who knew to spy on just those MAC addresses, and to whom where those victimized machines shipped?
[12:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:21] <exec> 08└─So who knew to spy on just those MAC addresses, and to whom where those victimized machines shipped?
[12:38:28] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03martyb [76] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 318 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:29] <exec> 08└─I never actually met him, but feel like I just lost a good friend. First learned of him from his posts on the green site. Then after the Slashcott he posted frequently here. Seemed like a good guy with a big heart who made the best of his life he could, even as he struggled with mental illness. I'm...
[12:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:31] <exec> 08└─I'm going to miss him.
[12:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:34] <exec> 08└─He had more friends than detractors here, and some of the best off-topic comments. He was very self-deprecating, and would often upmod jokes made at his expense. I think I was only slightly concerned by the weird last journal [soylentnews.org] he made because he had posted similar stuff before. I ch...
[12:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:36] <exec> 08└─Rest in peace, MDC. I confess I didn't pay much attention to his posts and never engaged with him, but he was a Soylentil and when you saw his name you always knew you were in the right place.
[12:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:38] <exec> 08└─https://www.facebook.com/repeatiblehairstyle/posts/2224008081183756 [facebook.com] https://www.facebook.com [facebook.com] https://www.facebook.com [facebook.com]
[12:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:40] <exec> 08└─I'll pour one out for you tonight buddy. This place won't be the same without you.
[12:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:43] <exec> 08└─Why is it always the good ones who die and the a-holes stick around forever.
[12:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:45] <exec> 08└─Shit. The world just got worse.
[12:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:47] <exec> 08└─Dealing with mental illness is an iffy proposition at best. It's a shame we don't have better ways to treat such diseases. MDC was, for all his (mostly endearing) wackiness, good to have around here. He will be missed by many, including me.
[12:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:49] <exec> 08└─I lost a friend to suicide. He was a nice person, a businessman, a job creator, and a person who collected pictures of 12-year-old girls naked. He got reported, lost his business, and ended up on the sex offender list. He tried to keep doing something, ending up making useless jewelry, but that was...
[12:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:52] <exec> 08└─He was smart, but irrational. Likable, but crazy. As much as he stroked some people the wrong way, I don't think I recall he ever lost his temper with people here. My longest interaction with him was trying to convince him not to buy that stupid buttcoin miner rig. He ended up buying it, and as expe...
[12:38:53] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Tork [3914] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 478 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:54] <exec> 08└─I feel like I've known MDC for precisely as long as I've been visiting SoylentNews. I feel like every time I've read one of his posts he was genuinely trying to provide some helpful insight. He wanted to share to help others. I feel like... it sucks because something nice in this world is, after tod...
[12:38:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:56] <exec> 08└─He had more friends than detractors here, and some of the best off-topic comments.
[12:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:58] <exec> 08└─I happen to think jmorris is in the top 10 best around here. He's up there with VLM, Runaway1956, and The Mighty Buzzard. He has the clear and logical thinking that so many lack. MDC seems to have been a socialist. That always leads to mass murder. MDC also personally took it upon himself to hurt pe...
[12:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:01] <exec> 08└─I engaged with him a few times here, very likable guy, a bit nutty but never an ass. Open and honest about his condition. Sad to hear he took his own life. One of the more interesting people here, I will certainly miss him. RIP MDC.
[12:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:03] <exec> 08└─Just sad.
[12:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:05] <exec> 08└─That isn't his style. Read his many journal entries and see. Don't pour one out. Rub one out. His photo is on Facebook and on his web site, just in case you need some, uh, inspiration.
[12:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:08] <exec> 08└─When I first ran across his posts here I thought he was crazy, as he seemed to oscillate between deeply insightful and insanely off-topic, and I was saddened to learn later on that it was rather literally true. Even sadder now because even in the times he didn't contribute good insights, he could us...
[12:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:10] <exec> 08└─"I hate MDC because my friend is sexually interested in children" MDC was fightin' the good fight to protect those who could not protect themselves, even when he could not protect himself.
[12:39:11] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03TaxiCabJesus [6455] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 2178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:12] <exec> 08└─Oh man... I met Michael David Crawford (MDC) for the first time when he was mickeyed up in the San Louis Obispo (SLO) County Jail, in November 2012. One of the other kuro5hin.org users had figured out that MDC hadn't been posting because he was in jail. He'd headed south from Portland area, wrecked...
[12:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:14] <exec> 08└─I think people who bring up petty quarrels at a virtual funeral are assholes.
[12:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:17] <exec> 08└─I never paid much attention to MDC's posts, and I've been here since the very earliest days of Soylent News' existence. I feel kind of bad about it now. I saw his journal post and thought he was joking/being melodramatic. I wasn't following anything of his closely. I even posted one of my usual trol...
[12:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:19] <exec> 08└─Hate to say it, but I gotta agree. Reading his posts and following his life, alcohol never seemed to be his style as much as his interest in sex and accompanying colorful descriptions. I'm sad he couldn't get help that would, well, help him.
[12:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:21] <exec> 08└─RIP MDC. Always enjoyed everything you did. You will be missed.
[12:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:24] <exec> 08└─May MDC achieve peace of mind in the afterlife that he had a problem with achieving in the physical realm. I had never met him... But I did have a respect for him. I feel bad now that I took a few jabs at a few of his comments, even though in the name of fun/humor, even though as mentioned, he gener...
[12:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:26] <exec> 08└─most polarising Maddest Most frustrating Truly unique. He will be missed.
[12:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:28] <exec> 08└─Wikipedia named him non-notable about ten years ago.
[12:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:30] <exec> 08└─I couldn't put it better myself. Absolutely could not put it better. My thoughts, prayers and condolences are with Michael's family, friends and colleagues. God and your Country are with you!
[12:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03lizardloop [4716] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:33] <exec> 08└─I didn't know the guy but I was struck by his journal posts. Even reached out to him by email to say how entertaining I found his writings. Hope you have a better one MDC! Sorry to see you're gone.
[12:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:35] <exec> 08└─He writes he was in coma for 3 days. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] We really don't treat crazy people right.
[12:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:37] <exec> 08└─It is always sad to hear news of a friend's passing away. Although most of us never met MDC, he was a member of our community and a regular contributor. We all knew that he had problems - he himself made no secret of it - but our community will miss him. My thoughts are with his friends and family.
[12:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 2253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:40] <exec> 08└─I'm not glad he's dead, but hopefully he's free from his demons, such as they may be. In the spirit of actually reading the article, I see he has bequeathed a bunch of stuff to SN: I give, devise and Bequeath to SOYLENTNEWS PBC, a Delaware Public Benefit Corporation, the Copyrights to each file, inc...
[12:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:42] <exec> 08└─MDC only tracked down people who were publicly sharing CP. He didn't break into computers. So if 'your friend' got busted it was because he was providing CP to other people, not just holding a stash.
[12:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 2132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:44] <exec> 08└─if the cited will is real/legal, who has to deal with this? I give, devise and Bequeath to SOYLENTNEWS PBC, a Delaware Public Benefit Corporation, the Copyrights to each file, including but not limited to Text, Digital or Silver Halide Firm or Paper Image, Word Processor, Spreadsheet that any one or...
[12:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:46] <exec> 08└─He seems like the kind of guy who would live stream his suicide, or at least write a script to automatically upload photos as he dies. Is there any actual info about a method, a time, or a place? How about "MDC did it with the lead pipe in the ballroom" or "MDC did it with the candlestick in the lib...
[12:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:49] <exec> 08└─Can we (S/N) arrange for his sites to stay up? Warplife.com at the very least?
[12:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:51] <exec> 08└─Strangely, that domain isn't in his will
[12:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:53] <exec> 08└─Smart idea. Another of Michael's very special sights -- and one of my top favorites of the entire www -- is hydrogenbomb.org.
[12:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 1707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:55] <exec> 08└─I will confess to having foed him, not because I disliked anything about him, it's just that I couldn't deal with that level of off-the-wall sureality at unexpected moments in threads. I tend to prefer my SN reading boring - just the facts, ma'am - when I'm pressed for time. Of course, individual po...
[12:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:57] <exec> 08└─Thank you for being the good neighbour that Michael clearly needed.
[12:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:00] <exec> 08└─http://93.174.104.65 [93.174.104.65] goes to warplife.com. The copyright for the content is thus assigned to Stefan Pietrzcak Youngs. However, the ownership of domain name itself doesn't seem to be assigned to anyone.
[12:40:01] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 1063 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:02] <exec> 08└─I came here when I was reading but the Slashdot beta. But I stayed because of MDC. His honesty about himself and his struggles gave me the strength I needed to seek out help. Prior to my encounters with his writings, I thought I was normal and the world was crazy. My mind was filled with all kinds o...
[12:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:04] <exec> 08└─Such a sad ending for an intelligent but troubled person. I tried to engage him on SN whenever I could, and defend him when necessary. I also sent him the MBP power adaptor and donated to his go fund me page. He didn't ask for much, but the one thing he lusted after was a resolution to his mental il...
[12:40:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:06] <exec> 08└─https://web.archive.org/web/20190124222828/http://www.warplife.com/ [archive.org] https://web.archive.org [archive.org] (seemed to me that the essays weren't linked to the root of the site) https://web.archive.org
[12:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:09] <exec> 08└─I understand and agree with the sentiment of your comment, but I would rather remember MDC for what he was and what he did and the fact that he was one of us.
[12:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:12] <exec> 08└─If we can get in contact with an executor before they expire, then that's one possibility. At least if we can ensure his robots.txt files permit the wayback machine, then they will at least be preserved, even if it's rather faceless, is designed precisely for this purpose. Another alternative, looki...
[12:40:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:14] <exec> 08└─At least if we can ensure his robots.txt files permit the wayback machine
[12:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:16] <exec> 08└─I'd missed this in his LW&T: I give, devise and bequeath to His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso the Title and Ownership of the Internet Domain Names “soggy.jobs”, “uae.org.in”, “hydrogenbomb.org”, “globalemployerindex.com”, “globalemployerindex.jobs” as well as the Tr...
[12:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:18] <exec> 08└─In memory of MDC, I think tonight we should all go out and GET BLOWN THROUGH A GLORY HOLE, it's what he would have wanted.
[12:40:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:21] <exec> 08└─Yup, saw that back when he first posted it. I'll probably be the one gathering it all up but I won't have time to do much of anything with it beyond that for a while. I'll post a story about it when it's all squared away and if any of you lot see something you'd like to maintain and keep developing,...
[12:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:23] <exec> 08└─His posts over the past few months had increasingly concerned me, especially once he mentioned losing Medicaid and seemed to be stuck relying on crisis doses of his psych meds at the ER when desperate rather than being able to get full coverage again. I just figured that I was misinterpreting things...
[12:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:25] <exec> 08└─Mike, you were nuttier than squirrel shit but you were intelligent, funny, and had a better attitude towards life, the universe, and everything than most people. We'll miss you, you goofy bastard.
[12:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 1802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:27] <exec> 08└─His posts stood out as being rather more personal, and therefore vulnerable. He used his real name, not some handle. Nevertheless, I also did not pay especial attention to his posts and journal entries. There are many worthy people on here, and no one can get all the attention they perhaps deserve....
[12:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:29] <exec> 08└─His posts stood out as being rather more personal, and therefore vulnerable. He used his real name, not some handle.
[12:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:32] <exec> 08└─Found his website, so many years ago, while trying to learn C++, was then taken in by the miscellanea on warplife, such as on ethics and especially 'the strange pill'. The website itself epitomizes the best of what the WWW was, before it turned to whatever-it-has-become, so I thought of it as a kind...
[12:40:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:34] <exec> 08└─Maybe we can put a quote or two of his in the quotations thing. "You say that like it's a bad thing." "I Am Eternally In Your Debt." "The Mind Simply Reels." "Thank You For Your Submission. Our customer service personnel will respond to your request in the order it was received." etc.
[12:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:42] <exec> 08└─Focusing mainly on short-term growth is probably the leading cause of longer-term severe corporate blunders, often leading to eventual oblivion.
[12:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:45] <exec> 08└─So when their cars careem out of control, you know why.
[12:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:47] <exec> 08└─Yup, came to say the same thing, Careem is too close to Careen for English speakers. Turnabout for all the USA companies that choose names with unfortunate meanings in other languages.
[12:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:49] <exec> 08└─The English speakers will be using Uber. Or if they are in the Middle East, maybe their Uber app will hail a Careen driver.
[12:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:51] <exec> 08└─Short-term growth
[12:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:53] <exec> 08└─The transition to driverless will be crucial. Suddenly instead of having its contractor peons handle the fares, Uber will need to maintain its own fleet of vehicles. Google/Waymo has been buying tens of thousands of vehicles for this purpose, and is building a driverless car factory. Lyft and others...
[12:40:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:56] <exec> 08└─The transition to driverless will be crucial.
[12:40:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:58] <exec> 08└─Out in the Middle East I think they speak mostly Arabic or an Arabic-related language, so the association would not occur to them. It'd look like كريم, and means 'generous' or 'noble'. It's also a fairly common name, and I think most of us know of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
[12:40:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:00] <exec> 08└─When they start hauling agricultural products, they can be called "Careem of Wheat".
[12:41:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:02] <exec> 08└─Admit it, your "Careem of Wheat" brain fart came from the current "fortune", which I'm seeing as: Out of the mouths of babes does often come cereal.
[12:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:04] <exec> 08└─Hmm, maybe driverless doesn't have to work. Someone just has to get Uber to bankrupt itself trying to respond (Star Wars style).
[12:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:12] <exec> 08└─We need someone to load all those sick people up, and bring them to America!
[12:41:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:14] <exec> 08└─It's nothing personal. This needs to be stopped. Ebola can not survive nuclear incineration. The same goes for polio. We want it gone. Several world leaders have the ability to cleanse the world in less than an hour. In either case, we won't miss the people. They are useless at best.
[12:41:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:17] <exec> 08└─Where have we seen that before?
[12:41:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:19] <exec> 08└─The zombie apocalypse?
[12:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:21] <exec> 08└─You don't appear to be up on world events. You might want to look at the wildlife around Chernobyl. Life adapts, and ebola is part of life. You're not going to wipe out ebola by nuking Africa, or any parts of Africa. If, by chance, that worked, the radiation being spread around the world would proba...
[12:41:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:23] <exec> 08└─Yup, nukes [youtube.com] are definitely not the precedent here.
[12:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:26] <exec> 08└─The only part of Chernobyl that counts is deep inside the reactor. Life sure did die there, and any disease contained solely within it is long gone. Of course you know what I mean though. I mean heating the Ebola into plasma, ripping all the molecules apart into ions. Yes, I do like big bombs. I lik...
[12:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:28] <exec> 08└─There's quite a lot going on in DR Congo. Black Agenda Report has ongoing coverage [blackagendareport.com]. See also Congo in the Abyss [consortiumnews.com].
[12:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:30] <exec> 08└─Start that sprayer at your house first.
[12:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:32] <exec> 08└─Just so you know who shot you. :)
[12:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:35] <exec> 08└─It's nothing personal. This needs to be stopped. [...] In either case, we won't miss the people. They are useless at best.
[12:41:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:37] <exec> 08└─Yet another "open label" study. I can't believe they are getting away with this obvious scam: https://www.who.int [who.int]
[12:41:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03chewbacon [1032] 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:39] <exec> 08└─And what if they cannot afford to leave?
[12:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:41] <exec> 08└─Burning hospitals in areas with poverty, poor sanitation and ongoing epidemics is effectively biological warfare by indirect means.
[12:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 1048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:44] <exec> 08└─Even if I am more useless than the people in the ebola outbreak -- so what? There's no ebola where I am. It's not like we gave them ebola in order to have an excuse to kill them. If they didn't have ebola, we wouldn't want to do anything to them. But they do have ebola. I'm not the nuke 'em all AC a...
[12:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:46] <exec> 08└─Look at the By Line. It's another Beth Mole number. The Editors, for some reason, absolutely love these Beth Mole articles from Arse Tecnics. Beth is always out for someone's blood. Today it's the folks in Nambia we're supposed to hate & fear. Yesterday they got the torches & pitchforks out for the...
[12:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:48] <exec> 08└─I ask this purely in the interest of science, and of furthering the collective understanding of the human race: ...what the ever-loving chthonic fuck is wrong with you?! How is this even relevant? You're even more pathetic than Trump continuing his feud with a dead man.
[12:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:50] <exec> 08└─So you're saying that if I can save millions by killing you and the handful of others like you, I should absolutely do it?
[12:41:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:53] <exec> 08└─I touched Reply, my "Reply" went to the wrong place. But, look who wrote the article -- Beth Mole. I'm a germophobe, I wash my hands as often as possible because of germs. But Beth takes it much farther. And I would say, too far. It must be very scarey for our Seventh Day Adventists, our Orthodox Je...
[12:41:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:55] <exec> 08└─The death rate seems to be about 50% of patients bad enough to get diagnosed in war torn countries with poor availability of support (eg just keeping the person hydrated). It also looks like *at least* 15-50% of people in the region get exposed but don't get sick enough to get diagnosed, since that'...
[12:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:57] <exec> 08└─When it's the people with the disease doing the burning then it's effectively suicide not warfare.
[12:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:59] <exec> 08└─It's negroes in Africa. Helping them is hopeless.
[12:42:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:01] <exec> 08└─That's why I don't take vaccines. Life is too good.
[12:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:04] <exec> 08└─There's no ebola where I am.
[12:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:06] <exec> 08└─Charlottesville [wikipedia.org]
[12:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:08] <exec> 08└─Let me be the first one to tell you to get out of your mom's basement.
[12:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:16] <exec> 08└─Hopefully the vote fails. If not, there may be a market for a U.S. based news aggregator/news search engine and isn't bound by E.U. law to thrive. Just make sure you have no plans to visit the E.U. and you're golden!
[12:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:18] <exec> 08└─It is also widely protested [soylentnews.org]
[12:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 1041 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:20] <exec> 08└─I know this site has a predominantly US readership, but this is a tremendous and very frightening issue. If passed, the exact same machinery to enforce copyright can easily be turned on images of a certain red hat, or text that favors a given candidate - automatic censorship. At least right now site...
[12:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:22] <exec> 08└─There's a precedent [reuters.com]. So, yes, we've seen a protest against rampant copyright.
[12:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:25] <exec> 08└─aims to help news organizations collect more licensing fees
[12:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:27] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the same crowd
[12:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:29] <exec> 08└─the legislation's goals are incoherent or contradictory
[12:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:31] <exec> 08└─Why is it that proposals that are opposed by 80% or more of the people won't die and stay dead? The answer is, in a word, corruption. People the world over do not want extreme copyright. I also wonder at the plutocrats who want more, more, more, and can't ever satisfy their greed. What's with these...
[12:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:34] <exec> 08└─I'm from the US and this scares me. I see the US going to shit so I want to keep my options open, but everywhere else is going to shit just as fast if not faster. My current plan is to think happy thoughts.
[12:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:36] <exec> 08└─What's with these people who are bribing the politicians? They have mental issues.
[12:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03loonycyborg [6905] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:38] <exec> 08└─The whole idea of copyright is extreme. There is no particular reason that giving monopolies is appropriate way to "reward" creators. Only reason it exists as is is because it's based on older institution which was used for ideology control, by organizations like Spanish Inquisition. Copyright basic...
[12:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:40] <exec> 08└─Apparently the whole thing is part of a dirty deal. France wanted draconian copyright, Germany wanted the Russian gas pipeline. So they made a dirty deal: Germany won't weaken the copyright directive, France will accept the pipeline. https://mobile.twitter.com [tw...
[12:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:49] <exec> 08└─Before they turn into gangstas.
[12:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:51] <exec> 08└─As soon as I see the following headline: Police security system to give aspiring student youtubers live access to body camera feeds.
[12:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:53] <exec> 08└─A nip-slip can happen at any age.
[12:42:54] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 200 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:55] <exec> 08└─See, I figured the purpose of this was to get the kids (and their parents) used to being on the receiving end of an authoritarian state now, so they won't complain when it's imposed on everybody else.
[12:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:57] <exec> 08└─Increased focus of addressing student behavioral issues instead of fortification? Yeah, doesn't sound too bad. The implied tracking of the workforce in having them wear pendants that can report their location to.... anyone with the correct passkeys? Not so much. The ability, if a citizen alarm is ra...
[12:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:00] <exec> 08└─Especially if there are cameras in the bathrooms. That way, the pedophiles, hebephiles [wikipedia.org] *and* ephebophiles [wikipedia.org] will all get to watch the objects of their desires. "This will be a great new dating app! But wait, there's more! This new system is Roy Moore Approved™! Unsurp...
[12:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:02] <exec> 08└─Who watches the watchmen (as they jerk off uncontrollably)?
[12:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:04] <exec> 08└─The voyeurs, of course...But then, there won't be anyone to watch them masturbate. Hmm...I guess they could video themselves masturbating, which could then be used for SexEd classes -- and the circle is complete! Hooray for technology!!!
[12:43:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:06] <exec> 08└─Bingo. Schoolkids used to being watched will be adults used to being watched. I wouldn't even object to total surveillance, but it implies a clean slate approach and is difficult to keep, as it implies surveillance of the guys doing the surveillance and of everybody who counts and of every transacti...
[12:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:09] <exec> 08└─Do they come with built-in ink vials to identify who pulled the alarm? Or is that left as an educational opportunity for the students interested in identifying the narcs in their midst?
[12:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:11] <exec> 08└─Let me know when the advertisers get uncomfortable and demonetize the feed.
[12:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:13] <exec> 08└─And there I thought that Zero Tolerance policies, armed guards and drills, ROTC, and Pledging Alegiance to the Flag every morning (while learning jack shit about a dangerous outside world shrunk by misleading maps) were already doing that.
[12:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:15] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqC3FNNOaI [youtube.com]
[12:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 974 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:18] <exec> 08└─Seems like all these systems are _re_active in nature. Don't _stop_ travesties from occuring, don't work to better society and make it so these things don't happen. Instead, _when_ these things happen, and they're now part of the plan, make real good sure you can catch the fell'er who done did it! T...
[12:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:20] <exec> 08└─In a free society the job of the police is to make the lives of the citizens easier. In an authoritarian society the job of the citizens is to make the lives of the police easier.
[12:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:22] <exec> 08└─Important to have cameras everywhere
[12:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:24] <exec> 08└─You mean, before they turn into politicians.
[12:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:26] <exec> 08└─The school in suburban Dayton would have blue pull-alarms throughout the building, similar to red fire alarms, which teachers or students could pull in an emergency. If an alarm is pulled, the system would alert first responders to the location and nature of the emergency via pendants worn by staff.
[12:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Education and Science Giant Elsevier Left Users' Passwords Exposed Online - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:34] <exec> 08└─Does it allow everyone to avoid Elsevier's thieving paywall? It's a public service. It's a scientific experiment. Someone will write a paper about it.
[12:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Education and Science Giant Elsevier Left Users' Passwords Exposed Online - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:37] <exec> 08└─Perhaps. Though if someone writes a paper about it, it will probably end up archived behind a paywall at some other publishing giant's website.
[12:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Education and Science Giant Elsevier Left Users' Passwords Exposed Online - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:39] <exec> 08└─That was my first question. Where can I get the data dump, because I'd love to mirror every drop of content they have over to b-ok.org.
[12:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Education and Science Giant Elsevier Left Users' Passwords Exposed Online - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:41] <exec> 08└─ElseView.
[12:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:50] <exec> 08└─We just build Gen 4 nuclear reactors and burn the fuel we already have lying around instead of shoving in mountains and then let fusion happens when it does without suffering in the meantime.
[12:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 1204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:52] <exec> 08└─For the love of G-d please do something. I can so perfectly envision the refined and professional circle this idea was refined by; their stoic figures seated around a dark table, faces masked in shadow. "To make fusion cheaper.....", began Brother Prometheus (Mr Scientist person in TFS), "Go on" sai...
[12:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:55] <exec> 08└─I think he's basically just applying these new high temperature superconducting (HTS) magnets to the existing compact facility designs...
[12:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:57] <exec> 08└─They are doing something, you just didn't read thoroughly enough. The possibility for "compact" designs actually affect the viability of the fusion reactors. This is NOT about you getting your own Mr. Fusion on the back of your Tesla. "The bottom line, he said, is that the lower aspect ratio “is r...
[12:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:59] <exec> 08└─What kind of simulators do we have? Have we fed in parameters for previous designs and gotten results comparable to what those designs did? It seems like we could save a lot of time and money if we got one running as a simulation on a supercomputer before actually building it.
[12:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:01] <exec> 08└─not good enough. best supercomputers are not good enough to simulate the entire thing properly.
[12:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:03] <exec> 08└─But will it be called magic?
[12:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:06] <exec> 08└─I heard "Tokamak", I know what that is, but for some REALLY schtooooopid reason my brain kept shouting "Taco Bell!" over every "Tokamak". So we get compact, portable, personal TacoBells that we can use to generate power? Given the amount of gas I make after eating there, I'm fairly sure I'll be able...
[12:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:08] <exec> 08└─is 60 years of failure a scam?
[12:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:10] <exec> 08└─No.
[12:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:12] <exec> 08└─They're so full of it. Where are you going to dissipate all the heat? Present growth rates have us boiling off the oceans in less than 500 years [ucsd.edu]
[12:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:16] <exec> 08└─Your quoted section definitely gives a more concise reason as to why this proposal was significant. Wish that had been in TFS.
[12:44:16] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03RamiK [1813] 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 146 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:17] <exec> 08└─I was about to link Tom Murphy's later, more famous, post on the subject: https://dothemath.ucsd.edu [ucsd.edu]
[12:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:19] <exec> 08└─If you can violate the First Law of Thermodynamics to create unlimited energy out of thin air on Earth, surely you can just as easily create an unlimited heat sink to somehow take away any of the excess without increasing entropy. Because we're well into the realm of magical thinking here: Even Pons...
[12:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:22] <exec> 08└─It's fairly critical to get the fusion stuff rolled out as fast and as far as possible - with the backlash on fission lately, it's our only hope for a future that lacks a major extinction event and homo sapiens population crash.
[12:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:24] <exec> 08└─Compact designs also help with quicker iterations. I saw an interesting propaganda video on the skunkworks website that talked about it. https://www.lockheedmartin.com [lockheedmartin.com]
[12:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:26] <exec> 08└─I had been looking for these. Thanks to both of you.
[12:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:28] <exec> 08└─With unlimited energy, you can heat pump it to the stars: sink one side of your heat pump into the ocean - extract heat from there, then connect the other side to a massive IR emitter pointed straight up through cloudless skies (make it strong enough and it should send the clouds away...) Is SETI lo...
[12:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:31] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=30569&page=1&cid=814505#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] https://www.nextbigfuture.com [nextbigfuture.com]
[12:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:33] <exec> 08└─With fusion they at least appear to be trying, but failing. This to me seems like a problem that is much harder than was expected, not necessarily a scam.
[12:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:35] <exec> 08└─The unlimited energy isn't coming from thin air, anymore than Hiroshima and Nagasaki did - or the heat from the Sun. Instead of a heat-sink, I propose running a heat pump to reject high energy IR to space - sourced from fusion to power the pump and heat from the oceans.
[12:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:37] <exec> 08└─IDK but what are we going to do with all these heavy elements? We'd have to redefine the meaning of: "Eat lead you filthy animal!"
[12:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:39] <exec> 08└─When we run out of energy and all we have is a cold and dense planet, it's not going to be me running to the supermarket to buy some more energy and light elements for Earth. Intergalactic-salemen are an unpleasant bunch to do business with.
[12:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:42] <exec> 08└─You'll kill all your birds that way. All your birds, killed. The eagles and the everything else. You know, the environmentalists never talk about that. We need all forms of energy. But we must protect our magnificent birds.
[12:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:44] <exec> 08└─Super-150 IQ mongreloid here. Don't worry. It's still inconceivable.
[12:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:46] <exec> 08└─Clean coal never killed any birds, unlike wind turbines.
[12:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:48] <exec> 08└─A.K.A.: if we don't go into space much sooner than the next 400 years, we're doomed to a flat-lined economy which will be even less friendly to such "frivolous wastes of time and resources."
[12:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:50] <exec> 08└─Could also pump it into the mantle to help keep the magma flowing... wouldn't want the volcanoes to stop altogether.
[12:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:53] <exec> 08└─Your heat pump will have to be at least as massive and big as the entire planet. The Star Trek stuff is pretty much off the table for now, until someone can show us everything we know is wrong.
[12:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:55] <exec> 08└─That heat pump is going to need a beanstalk for a radiator, and I don't thing carbon fibers are strong enough. Either that or you're going to need to make some really high plateau hot enough to change the climate over the entire globe. A low red hot should probably be hot enough. Now, how do you pum...
[12:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:57] <exec> 08└─That's actually a much better idea. It would be less efficient, as you're pumping against a stronger gradient, but you could do it from several locations. Of course, it means you need to use something hotter than molten rock as your working fluid.
[12:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:59] <exec> 08└─A steady state economy is not flat-lined by any means. Infinite growth will give you this [wordpress.com].
[12:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:01] <exec> 08└─If you can violate the First Law of Thermodynamics to create unlimited energy out of thin air on Earth,
[12:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:04] <exec> 08└─McDonalds already has methane collectors under the seats in the dining area that they use to cook your Big Mac.
[12:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:06] <exec> 08└─Could also pump it into the mantle to help keep the magma flowing That would be a cool trick! If we dig a hole deep enough, do you think the earth will pop like a balloon? That would definitely suck..
[12:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:08] <exec> 08└─Can tokamak fusion facilities, the most widely used devices for harvesting on Earth the fusion reactions that power the sun and stars, be developed more quickly to produce safe, clean, and virtually limitless energy for generating electricity?
[12:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:10] <exec> 08└─Your farts may become superconductive [wikipedia.org] if you compress them strong enough. In 2015, hydrogen sulfide (H2S) under extremely high pressure (around 150 gigapascals) was found to undergo superconducting transition near 203 K (-70 °C), due the formation of H3S, a new record high temperatu...
[12:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:13] <exec> 08└─Your proposed methodology needs refining: The letter to a representative must include a large check in exchange for this effort.
[12:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:15] <exec> 08└─Everyone should read Strunk and White's Elements of Style [washington.edu] before they try to write on the Internet.
[12:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:17] <exec> 08└─It wasn't in TFS, but it was in TFA.
[12:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:19] <exec> 08└─It seems like we could save a lot of time and money if we got one running as a simulation on a supercomputer before actually building it.
[12:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:21] <exec> 08└─is 60 years of failure a scam?
[12:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:24] <exec> 08└─They're so full of it. Where are you going to dissipate all the heat? Present growth rates have us boiling off the oceans in less than 500 years [ucsd.edu]
[12:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:26] <exec> 08└─We would fuck ourselves up so completely and totally nobody would believe it. It's not like we're using any of the existing technologies for reasonable purposes and wielding UNLIMITED ENERGY is prone to give people some even more funky ideas...
[12:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:28] <exec> 08└─Will it be "too cheap to meter"?
[12:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:30] <exec> 08└─It took the Universe millions of years to create the Sun. And you're complaining that Man can't do it in 60 years?
[12:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:33] <exec> 08└─A steady state economy is not flat-lined by any means. Infinite growth will give you this [wordpress.com].
[12:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:35] <exec> 08└─Everyone should read Strunk and White's Elements of Style [washington.edu] before they try to write. Full stop.
[12:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:37] <exec> 08└─Was humanity to ever invent fusion
[12:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:39] <exec> 08└─Chinese say they will do it this year. https://www.sciencealert.com [sciencealert.com] Yet another Sputnik Moment coming? https://www.usingenglish.com [usingenglish.com] We already lost 5G, i...
[12:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:42] <exec> 08└─Toke a Mac?
[12:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:44] <exec> 08└─The easier, and only long term, answer to continued economic growth is expansion to space.
[12:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:46] <exec> 08└─The oceans would seem to be a good heat conductor for global distribution, let them bring the heat to the pump. A breakthrough in higher temperature superconductors would be a nice thing to conduct heat up a beanstalk, although I think that replacing the telescope farm at the top of Mauna Kea with a...
[12:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:48] <exec> 08└─I don't think the working fluid is going to be as challenging as the conduits to carry it, particularly under pressure.
[12:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:50] <exec> 08└─Super-150 IQ mongreloid here. Don't worry. It's still inconceivable.
[12:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 3475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:53] <exec> 08└─Some curious points... - The (by a replier's post) "phenomenally faithful" graph of energy usage in all forms shows that energy usage has tapered off in recent years, and in fact _damn_near_ flatlined. Huh. Almost as though we're becoming much more efficient in what we're doing. - All of this depend...
[12:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:55] <exec> 08└─Ima gonna promise him a reasonable percent of profits (say, 60%?) from the generated energy. I bet he's gonna take the deal, he may be stupid enough.
[12:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:57] <exec> 08└─And that will become practical the moment we break the light barrier. Who's gonna be our next Chuck Yeager?
[12:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:59] <exec> 08└─No, that's Lisp ;-P
[12:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:01] <exec> 08└─150? That's so cute.
[12:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:04] <exec> 08└─I prefer "Style: Toward Clarity and Grace" by Joseph Williams. Instead of endless talking about making your writing "forcible" it teaches how to make it _clear_. The teaching part includes worked-out examples of refactoring terrible prose into something that communicates well.
[12:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:06] <exec> 08└─We already have several means of converting heat to other forms of energy. They don't even have to be all that efficient if you're just talking waste heat. So what if they lose 90% (not actually lost, just not going into the specific form you want it in) of the potential energy in waste heat?
[12:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 1118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:08] <exec> 08└─Sadly the biggest problem seems to be getting funded - a big part of the reason that fusion is forever 20 years away, is that they still haven't finished delivering the funding that was supposed to be delivered over the course of the first 20 years. If you promised me 2 billion dollars over 20 years...
[12:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:10] <exec> 08└─It's not 60 years of failure, it is 60 years of finding bigger and more expensive ways of finding out what won't work, pace Edison. Learning what doesn't work is an important part of progress - ask any kid learning to ride a bicycle.
[12:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:12] <exec> 08└─Well, Ussherly [wikipedia.org] 4004+2019 = 6023 years if you are quibbling. OTOH, if you take the view the Sun was formed in a star-forming nebula, then the process of gravitational collapse, possibly triggered by a supernova, took roughly 105 years. Without a triggering nearby supernova, it takes l...
[12:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:15] <exec> 08└─Was Were humanity to ever invent fusion
[12:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:17] <exec> 08└─Then maybe researchers should stop saying "it's so-and-so many years in the future" and start saying "it's so-and-so many dollars in the future".
[12:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:19] <exec> 08└─Yup. There's a big difference between wanting to accelerate development of fusion reactors and actually accelerating development. As half a century of work in this area has more than shown us, fusion reactors will always be the technology of the future. Unless it's that really big pre-built one, who...
[12:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe it would be easier to exploit explore Europa before exploding exploring Triton? Or is Europa made more difficult a target due to Jupiter? Radiation? Navigation difficulty? Other? Is the greater distance to Triton irrelevant? Do we know more about Europa already? If so, doesn't that make missio...
[12:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kanisae [1908] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:30] <exec> 08└─The radiation environment at Europa is intense due to the proximity of Jupiter and the ice is thought to be quite thick. Callisto is in some ways a far better choice for life due to its low radiation environment.
[12:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:32] <exec> 08└─i guess it's going to need the dumping of a small pile of pooh-tonium on otherworldly pristine ground to make it work :( well i hope they can install a small spy-cam on the bot too so we can spy on the neptunias ...
[12:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:34] <exec> 08└─If a mission is going to travel out further than Jupiter, what about Enceladus which is a moon of Saturn. It seems to be thermally active beneath the ice. If a mission can go further out than Neptune, what about Miranda which is a moon of Uranus. (forget the adolescent joke about Uranus, it is prope...
[12:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:36] <exec> 08└─With all these ice-ball-but-maybe-with-life planets, I mean. When the amount of energy introduced into the ecosystem via sunlight/thermal vents/whatever per day is so slow, does that slow down metabolic processes? Evolution? Are the functional populations all tiny because of limited food, and would...
[12:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:39] <exec> 08└─It is possible in some of these cases for the internal heat to decrease. But sometimes conditions are good: Porous Core Could be Keeping Enceladus Warm [soylentnews.org]
[12:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:41] <exec> 08└─The miles-thick icy shell(s) should protect life close to Jupiter. But it still makes it a pain to send spacecraft there.
[12:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:43] <exec> 08└─Miles thick makes it difficult to penetrate too.
[12:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:45] <exec> 08└─From what I'm reading, this would be a ~$500 million class flyby mission. Just send orbiters to Uranus and Neptune already.
[12:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:48] <exec> 08└─I think that all chemical processes would slow because of the lack of energy in the system.
[12:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:50] <exec> 08└─Sure, I agree it can be more than warm enough for liquid water, but in terms of coherent energy that can be used for the processes life needs, the total amount being brought in each day is way way way way lower than earth's insolation that our plants and phytoplankton eat. Orders of magnitude less.
[12:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:52] <exec> 08└─The hope is that life is clustered around hydrothermal vents. Minerals In Plumes of Enceladus Indicate Hydrothermal Activity [soylentnews.org] Hydrogen Emitted by Enceladus, More Evidence of Plumes at Europa [soylentnews.org] Complex Organic Molecules Found on Enceladus [soylentnews.org] Did life on...
[12:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:54] <exec> 08└─Just wanted ignore how the speed of chemical reactions decay exponentially with the drop in temperature; if it has oceans and geysers, it has life.
[12:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:57] <exec> 08└─According to Louise Prockter, chief investigator for Trident, now is the time to launch a Triton mission as it's vital to find out if the moon hosts alien life.
[12:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:59] <exec> 08└─If it has an internal ocean, it has a substantial heating mechanism.
[12:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:01] <exec> 08└─If it has an internal ocean, it has a substantial heating mechanism.
[12:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:03] <exec> 08└─Indeed, lets probe Uranus...
[12:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:05] <exec> 08└─Objects at or beyond the frost line tend to have a lot of water. The objects in question [wikipedia.org] have a much higher proportion of water ice than Earth, possibly over 50%. Given enough internal or tidal heating, they can have liquid water oceans. Mass of Ceres [wikipedia.org] = 0.00015 Earths...
[12:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:08] <exec> 08└─Something in the 'liquid nitrogen' and 'liquid water' in close association is wrong. Just sayin.
[12:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:10] <exec> 08└─I don't know how to respond to things sometimes. You've very thoroughly answered a slightly different question than the one that interests me, with good quality information that I already know pretty well. It's not like I want to be angry about that, you're doing a kind an informative thing, but not...
[12:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:13] <exec> 08└─Hint: A hydrothermal vent inside an icy world isn't going to have orders of magnitude less energy than one on Earth. Maybe less, and less of them, but if life is super easy to get started, it might not matter.
[12:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:21] <exec> 08└─Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline
[12:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:23] <exec> 08└─Mushrooms are good. I eat them just because I like them. But - it seems stupid to start eating a bunch of them because some team found some kind of correlation between mushrooms and senility. One of those Ten Commandments etched into stone was Correlation ≠ Causation.
[12:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:25] <exec> 08└─It's a good rationalization if you were wanting to do it anyway. Sorta like how I often say my coffee drinking is strictly for the health benefits. Now I can say the same for my liking fried mushrooms and mushroom gravy. :)
[12:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:27] <exec> 08└─They still can't decide if the rules were written on two tablets or on one tablet and copied to the other. If they can't even get that right... ?
[12:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheFool [7105] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's a correlation study, rather than causation? It might be that those who don't like mushrooms are already in cognitive decline :)
[12:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:32] <exec> 08└─Forget coffee: There have been a bunch of studies extolling the health benefits of beer and wine. Yeah, that's why I drink them.
[12:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:34] <exec> 08└─I'll take your share of Psylocibin.
[12:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:36] <exec> 08└─These days, you can 3-D print the things, nano-sized, by the billions.
[12:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:39] <exec> 08└─+1 touche = +1 ishouldhavethoughtofthat
[12:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:41] <exec> 08└─I think you've got to go for steamed mushrooms to get the benefit...though I'm sure the ADC (American Dairy Council) would recommend butter fried. OTOH, I more frequently have fresh mushrooms in salad, and the summary didn't mention those.
[12:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:43] <exec> 08└─How do you think Mario keeps on functioning after repeated cranial trauma to brick walls and metal mystery boxes? It's the 'shrooms, man! For your retro Dad joke of the day I heard Bill Clinton ate them, but didn't swallow. Off to go put some mushrooms on my sphaghetti and meatball lunch. They're ma...
[12:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:46] <exec> 08└─I've seen shrooms dried, but I didn't know you could cook them. I though cooking would break down the active ingredients. I wonder what the flavour would be like...
[12:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:48] <exec> 08└─1 ishouldhavethoughtofthat
[12:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:50] <exec> 08└─Still tastes like shit. I've seen people make soup out of them.
[12:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:52] <exec> 08└─I often get mushrooms if I hit a salad bar. And, I like steamed ones too, so all is good. :)
[12:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:01] <exec> 08└─That's a brilliant idea! You send a call to them for a service and they come to your house. We could call it a housecall!
[12:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:03] <exec> 08└─They shouldn't be just randomly fiddling with the epidemiology of these various viral diseases. They can cause a lot of damage by messing with the susceptible/infected/recovered ratio, even triggering epidemics.
[12:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Redundant) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:05] <exec> 08└─which will target a viral illness in adults.
[12:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:07] <exec> 08└─They shouldn't be just randomly fiddling with the epidemiology of these various viral diseases.
[12:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:09] <exec> 08└─What the fuck is in those flu "vaccines" that they're that desperate to shoot into everyone?
[12:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:12] <exec> 08└─If you have no idea how many people are currently infected, no idea how many are immune, no idea where you are in the seasonal cycle, no idea how fast immunity wanes after vaccine vs wildtype infection, it is basically randomly fiddling.
[12:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:14] <exec> 08└─It's not what is in the vaccines, its so they can covertly harvest a tissue/dna sample. https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[12:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:16] <exec> 08└─If you have no idea how many people are currently infected, no idea how many are immune, no idea where you are in the seasonal cycle, no idea how fast immunity wanes after vaccine vs wildtype infection, it is basically randomly fiddling.
[12:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:18] <exec> 08└─They have no idea for the flu, and it gets worse from there.
[12:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:21] <exec> 08└─Which is why I laughed so hard at the idea. With USPS in charge it will never work and they will botch it for sure, all while NOT saving money. UPS is better, but still...
[12:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:23] <exec> 08└─A more brillianter idea! UPS drops off a box. When the anti-vaxxer picks it up, a needle is forced out through the cardboard, instantly vaccinating the person who picks up the package. What could go wrong?
[12:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:25] <exec> 08└─is this an anti-zombie vaccine, which is the only hope for mankind in the coming End Times?
[12:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:28] <exec> 08└─Imagine the UPS pickers, working in the land of milk and honey, carefully sorting packages while sipping tea: one flat screen tv here, one inflatable doll there, oh what's this, oh yes, ms. smith vaccine, nice lady, goes here. Now imagine reality. People will be injected with mouthwash by mistake, a...
[12:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:30] <exec> 08└─The vaccinations are cheaper than the cost of chemtrails. Remember: they are out to get you!
[12:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:32] <exec> 08└─I hope I didn't need an /s tag on that.
[12:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:34] <exec> 08└─And the syringes get smashed when the driver throws the box at your front door.
[12:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:37] <exec> 08└─If they want a change at 100% participation, it'll have to be USPS. UPS and FedEx don't come to my door. They drop it off at the local post office and make them do the last leg.
[12:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:39] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately they have no vacine for stupidity.
[12:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:41] <exec> 08└─What the fuck is in those flu "vaccines" that they're that desperate to shoot into everyone?
[12:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:43] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, the ol' swab your cheek and send it back to us scam.
[12:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:45] <exec> 08└─That number is totally made up, there is no way to ever check their models are at all accurate.
[12:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:48] <exec> 08└─They shouldn't be just randomly fiddling with the epidemiology of these various viral diseases. They can cause a lot of damage by messing with the susceptible/infected/recovered ratio, even triggering epidemics.
[12:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:50] <exec> 08└─Sure they do: one dose of Vitamin L at high speed, administered intercranially. Problem is, the side effects almost invariably include death.
[12:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UPS Eyes In-Home Health Services With U.S. Vaccine Project - 1205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:48:52] <exec> 08└─It's certainly possible that they're simply doing their best to prevent influenza, as you state. I judge it to be a very low probability. First, the idea that a government agency gives a fuck about any of the public seems laughable. Second, the CDC has put out studies on gun ownership, which is outs...
[12:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:01] <exec> 08└─As far as developers go, he's such an incredibly somber person that you have to watch your time going to his site. There's great fun and insight to be had checking-up on his projects and experiments from time to time. Check out his work on hash-functions after you spent some time with endlessh.
[12:49:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:03] <exec> 08└─This is a neat trick, but I wonder who the cretins are doing the probing. Some organized group(s)? Buncha random individuals/script kiddies?
[12:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:05] <exec> 08└─In the comments someone said to put "Tiananmen square" in the response, then they stop. I guess for New Zealand you can put that manifesto now.
[12:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:08] <exec> 08└─This could easily lead to the host machine running out of file descriptors, so be sure to use only disposable machines. Before I firewalled off my ssh port, I was getting thousands of connection attempts per day, so it wouldn't have taken long for my machine to become unusable using this technique.
[12:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:10] <exec> 08└─I see minimal probes if I move my ash port to something other than 22, and instead of wasting a connection for a week, why not just add the remote to the firewall after a few minutes?
[12:49:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:12] <exec> 08└─What happens to the cheap-o router/firewall with all the hanging connections? Sounds like a good test for it. I wouldn't put the sshd behind a NAT port forward. It might be nice to add the IP from the ones that don't hang to a drop all list. Those connections are the ones that are likely to be a rea...
[12:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:14] <exec> 08└─Resources that the bot has to waste on your machine, can't be used to probe other machines on the net. The tarpit sends data to the bot that it needs to check before it can do attempts to login... this data never validates... so it will never login, but the connection stays alive.
[12:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:16] <exec> 08└─Probably infected bots ran by people that never update their software.
[12:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:19] <exec> 08└─Non infected bots might do a better job. Especially if those bots can be distributed to many Windoze PCs without their owners' knowledge. Vaccinate your bots!
[12:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:21] <exec> 08└─So I assume that this cannot run along side a real SSL implementation on your system? Eg, real SSL and tarpit SSL are mutually exclusive?
[12:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:23] <exec> 08└─I always feel like going after the IPs doing these connections and wipe their systems, but apart from being illegal, the time spent to fight back against an endless flood of attackers won't give me pleasure with the prospect of wasting most of my life doing it. I do like everyone else and set up a p...
[12:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:26] <exec> 08└─Literally has nothing to do with SSL. SSH is a tool for logging in remotely to your machine in order to control it. SSL is a protocol for validating the trustworthyness of a server and establishing an encrypted connection. As for it living along side proper SSH, yes it should be fine. Just move SSH...
[12:49:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:28] <exec> 08└─Indeed, he bumps the real sshd to an alternative port, so the tarpit suck connections to the default port. My firewall NATs 6 machines, so I just have a bank of ports 222x, one forwarded to sshd on each machine, and so this tarpit on 22 would work for me - it could be forwarded to the unimportant Ra...
[12:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:30] <exec> 08└─This for SSH, not SSL. As to runing both a normal SSH server and a tar pit on the same port, it might be possible to do some kind of multiplexing with sslh [github.com]. But I don't think so. Off the top of my head I'd have to say I'm not sure how it could work since both an attack and a legitimate...
[12:49:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:32] <exec> 08└─YOU ARE IN A MAZE OF TWISTY LITTLE PASSAGES, ALL ALIKE.
[12:49:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 281 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:34] <exec> 08└─If you use fail2ban or sshguard, you could maybe use the triggered firewall rule to route the bot to an interal port running the tar pit. Normal connections would pass through to the SSH daemon, as expected, but offending IP addresses would get routed internally to somewhere else.
[12:49:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:37] <exec> 08└─I used to run a honeypot. These guys would leave big text files full of username/passwords and sites. Bad news is most of the time they're coming from other hacked boxes.
[12:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:39] <exec> 08└─Yes, you're right. Not enough caffeine yet. I meant SSH. I wrote SSL.
[12:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:41] <exec> 08└─I also am aware that it is possible to have both SSH and SSL on the same port. SSLH – Share A Same Port For HTTPS, SSH, And OpenVPN https://www.ostechnix.com [ostechnix.com] Applicative Protocol Multiplexer (e.g. share SSH and HTTPS on the same port) https://github.com
[12:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:43] <exec> 08└─Sorry not enough caffeine when I wrote SSL when I meant SSH. Yes it is possible to have SSL and SSH on the same port, see my reply a few up above.
[12:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:46] <exec> 08└─Sorry I wrote SSL when I meant SSH. For SSH, I have one forwarded to a non standard port in the 3xxx range. I could forward more as you describe. I suppose then the standard SSH port could run the tarpit. But it would be really cool to be able to mix the tarpit with a real SSH implementation if that...
[12:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:48] <exec> 08└─I like that approach.
[12:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:50] <exec> 08└─The combination of fail2ban banning by tarpitting is indeed an interesting solution. I did plan to write a lightweight fail2ban replacement at some point (installed size half a meg? for something that just calls notify/poll and matches a few regexps and optionally calls some scripts, that sounds lik...
[12:49:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:52] <exec> 08└─If your needs are not complex, then the replacement can be quite short. I have one which is less than 10 lines of AWK. Though it depends on probes making specific errors, it seems to get nearly all of them quickly. I should connect it to a tar pit maybe but would want to re-write the tar pit in perl...
[12:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:54] <exec> 08└─Using the Chinese Firewall against them. Nice.
[12:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:57] <exec> 08└─Are you likely to be eaten by a grue?
[12:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:49:59] <exec> 08└─something other than 22
[12:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:01] <exec> 08└─so I just have a bank of ports 222x
[12:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:03] <exec> 08└─Some years ago I had tried fail2ban and either had trouble getting it to work or just considered it too complicated. Too many years to remember. Have any of you tried "pam shield"?
[12:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:06] <exec> 08└─There are people who don't update their bots? Shame on them!
[12:50:07] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:08] <exec> 08└─I'd just use the port number written backwards. :-)
[12:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:10] <exec> 08└─I didn't see any mention that it is pitch black. Of course it might be that I just couldn't see that text because it is pitch black …
[12:50:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:12] <exec> 08└─So if you've got a reason to have a real sshd on port 22, it might be a good idea to tarpit all the other ports with "22" in their number?
[12:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 3061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:14] <exec> 08└─Rather than waste my resources responding to obviously malicious communications, I just block them. The way I do this is looked-down-upon for reasons I can't fathom. I don't pretend it's secure. I claim that it stops random automated spam rather than specifically-targeted attacks, which are the main...
[12:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03dwilson [2599] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:17] <exec> 08└─Rather than waste my resources responding to obviously malicious communications, I just block them. The way I do this is looked-down-upon for reasons I can't fathom.
[12:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:19] <exec> 08└─As I've mentioned above in another post. I use a whitelist to limit the problem. I know which subnet the authorized logins are going to come from, no reason to let the whole world open a connection. Having limited the scope of the problem, an automated log-monitoring system for banning unauthorized...
[12:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:21] <exec> 08└─Don't tell our resident Genuine People Personality, it might crush its diodes.
[12:50:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:23] <exec> 08└─Create a fake user that has a name formed from a sequence of random characters and numbers. Set SSH to only allow logins from that user. Assign that user the shell /bin/rbash Then, have real users immediately 'su' to their actual account. 'fail2ban' failed logins.
[12:50:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:26] <exec> 08└─The article doesn't mention the TARPIT netfilter (iptables) target. It seems that it would solve a lot of the problems discussed, as only netfilter (in the kernel) has to track the connection, so less memory is needed than running a userland process, no file descriptors to run out of, etc. A process...
[12:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:28] <exec> 08└─you use port 104? commander data
[12:50:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:30] <exec> 08└─What's the point of this? I hope everyone realizes that these probes are all bots. No one's time is wasted except your own setting up the honeypot. The client sleeping on the socket read is using the same amount of electricity as your server sleeping on the socket write, and it's probably not even t...
[12:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:32] <exec> 08└─WRONG! People (witches) who cast spells on the President need to be Investigated. Lock Her up!
[12:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:35] <exec> 08└─Off by 2.
[12:50:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:37] <exec> 08└─Err … I shouldn't try to calculate while listening to the news …
[12:50:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:39] <exec> 08└─I forgot to give the correct correction: Off by 5. And yes, this time I'm sure.
[12:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:42] <exec> 08└─Err … no, off by 7 -- off by 5 from my previous wrong result!
[12:50:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:44] <exec> 08└─I have no idea looks like a small tutorial on threads, polls and sockets?
[12:50:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:46] <exec> 08└─In this case, unfortunately, it's relying on a quirk of badly-written software, I assume OpenSSH since that's the de facto standard. I've just connected with the SSH client I use and got.. hmm, closed the window, something like "Server sent excessive amounts of data without an SSH ID string", all in...
[12:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Endlessh: an SSH Tarpit - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:48] <exec> 08└─I moved my SSH to port 80, and I found I was getting thousands of probing attacks a day there.
[12:50:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:59] <exec> 08└─You'd have to be an idiot to let your adversary build your communications nodes. No evidence is needed. The NSA knows how easy it is to slip backdoors into systems. Whether China is more of an adversary to the EU than the US is a different question.
[12:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:01] <exec> 08└─Whether China is more of an adversary to the EU than the US is a different question.
[12:51:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:03] <exec> 08└─The fourth dimension of this thing, is the national cyberdefence departments on the rise in every memberstate of the EU and their attempt to use a government backed mandate to force companies into their sandboxing monitoring network. That is a digusting thing that we need to follow very closely in t...
[12:51:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:05] <exec> 08└─You'd have to be an idiot to let your adversary build your communications nodes.
[12:51:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tokolosh [585] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:07] <exec> 08└─So I guess Nokia is the best option.
[12:51:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:10] <exec> 08└─Something like this can't be hidden forever. Either, it will come to light that indeed Huawei and / or the Chinese government was/is actively doing so or it will be bogus and essentially part of the Trade War between the US/China.
[12:51:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:12] <exec> 08└─PERKELE!!!
[12:51:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:14] <exec> 08└─Doesn't have to be hidden if it can be denied. The client says a device is spying. It's dissected and we discover it is running non-standard firmware. Huawei says they shipped it with standard firmware. The blame finger is pointed away from Huawei and towards some invisible middle-man. YW
[12:51:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:16] <exec> 08└─...I'm assuming some US companies bribed some US government officials...
[12:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:19] <exec> 08└─The best government your money can buy, yes.
[12:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:21] <exec> 08└─Not my government, but yes. I think that's they way they like it.
[12:51:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:23] <exec> 08└─You'd have to be an idiot to send cleartext data over comms infrastructure that persons you don't trust have built. So make sure your data is encrypted and check for integrity at your endpoints. Then you shouldn't have to care who is listening in the middle.
[12:51:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:25] <exec> 08└─Not my government, but yes.
[12:51:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:28] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure about Australia, but the New Zealand government is so frightened of angering our trade partners that we tolerate a Chinese spy sitting in our parliament. [newsroom.co.nz] We also give citizenship to wealthy foreigners despite the fact they fit exactly none of the criterion. [theguardia...
[12:51:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:30] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure about Australia
[12:51:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:32] <exec> 08└─I think their wrongdoing consists of not putting in the five-eyes mandated backdoors.
[12:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU to Drop Threat of Huawei Ban but Wants 5G Risks Monitored - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:34] <exec> 08└─The fact that Huawei is a successful Chinese company is evidence of their wrongdoing. There are no large successful Chinese companies that aren't in bed with the PRC/Communist Party, because success in China requires that you be butt buddies with the PRC. It's like claiming illegal income on your ta...
[12:51:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 2115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:49] <exec> 08└─I'm a great believer in feedback. I would hypothesize that the rituals and behavioral codes evolve to reflect and codify the society's standards and needs, and society itself reinforces those religious beliefs. Even though I am not religious myself, I find myself fascinated by the cathedrals and cha...
[12:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:55] <exec> 08└─Bot got logic bombed by a Sony cd in 2005 and was never the same since.
[12:51:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Roo_Boy [1762] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:57] <exec> 08└─"Phwar, look at that ass the neighbour just got" "No honey, your not allowed to covet that because, um, er.... god said so" "Aww crap, well, how about I kill the neighbour, take his ass and while I'm at it I'll 'take' his wife" "Woo, no, god also said killing would send you to hell and having relati...
[12:51:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:59] <exec> 08└─Einstein claimed we live in a matrix but totally misunderstood what the matrix is.
[12:52:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:01] <exec> 08└─As living standards increased, is it a coincidence that the Puritans, Calvinists and others started emphasizing the benefits of hard work?
[12:52:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Interesting) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:03] <exec> 08└─But Jewish bullshit artists research this? Counter example: The Chinese. They pretty much never went for macro scale organized religion, and they've been a complex society for a while.
[12:52:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 1924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:06] <exec> 08└─Okay, here's where you're full of it. :) You're making the same mistake as the postmodernists and the enlightenment philosophers back in the day: that there was no value in the religions to the mass of people, only to those at the top of the hierarchies. And that religion was just a means for the po...
[12:52:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:08] <exec> 08└─So in other words, humans do the right thing for the wrong reasons because humans are stupid. Instead of behaving themselves because they are supposed to be civilized people in a large civilization, they make up some imaginary friend with superpowers that will magically punish anyone that disagrees...
[12:52:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:10] <exec> 08└─Swedish women are antiracist due to to kind good natured temperament of swedes in Sweden. It is a pity their centuries old culture is being destroyed by immigrants but that's their own fault. They made the problem. They must fix it. Their ancestors knew how. They must learn from the past to have a f...
[12:52:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 2158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:12] <exec> 08└─People are still trying to figure out the purpose of religion, assuming that people consciously invented it. But I highly doubt it was all that intentional. This study implies that religion is a consequence of complex society, and I would interpret this to mean that it arose out of many people indep...
[12:52:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:15] <exec> 08└─The paper('s summary's first few sentences; I'm not reading this nonsense either...) says big Gods always come from big societies. Not that big societies always create big Gods.
[12:52:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:17] <exec> 08└─Delusions of grandeur aside, the Jews were (and are) a micro tribe.
[12:52:18] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 1030 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:19] <exec> 08└─Well that's the kicker, isn't it? If you need to work hard in order to survive, then you don't actually need a work ethic, you just need a survival impulse. And those come installed as part of the standard biological package. You don't need a work ethic as a cultural concept until it's possible for...
[12:52:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:22] <exec> 08└─What appears to be many is actually just one.
[12:52:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:24] <exec> 08└─maybe there was this one dude in the smallish hunter-gatherer group who was a bit taller, stronger and quicker then the rest and he did many things that helped the group survive better and have more surviving offsprings (in dunno, maybe he single-highhandedly build a fence or stone wall towards the...
[12:52:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 1219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:26] <exec> 08└─You seem to be overlooking one important details in connecting the tearing-down of hierarchy with the World Wars. Namely, that no one on either side had any interest in tearing down hierarchies. The "communist" countries often talked a good line during the revolution, but all they did was transfer w...
[12:52:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:28] <exec> 08└─The Christian god, whether the angry, abusive one or the rebooted loving and forgiving one, and the associated myths are nothing but a hodge-podge assembly cherry-picked from a slough of other, earlier gods and myths.
[12:52:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:31] <exec> 08└─they were willing to invest time and sweat that they could hardly spare I don't know if everybody in Europe spent their entire lives pulling ox carts full of rotting cadavers. They may have spent most of their time getting drunk off of very "ripe" fermented fruits and grains. Maybe they built the th...
[12:52:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:33] <exec> 08└─With a big mouth!
[12:52:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sourcery42 [6400] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:35] <exec> 08└─I once saw a middle aged British man flying there. He appeared to be falling, but then he inexplicably missed the ground. While I thought it rather strange, it just isn't my problem.
[12:52:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:37] <exec> 08└─https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe [wikipedia.org]
[12:52:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6x [903] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:40] <exec> 08└─WTF??? Einstein used matrices and linear algebra in a system of geometry (Riemann Geometry) to describe a mathematical framework for 4 dimensional space time. This in no way implies 'We live in a Matrix'. The idea is completely ridiculous! Your comment sounds wacky to think that linear algebra could...
[12:52:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:42] <exec> 08└─1 out of 0 moderators prefer pointless bots? Or, 0 out of 1 moderators prefer pointy bots? I'm not sure how to interpret that moderation. I guess I should plug it into a matrix.
[12:52:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:44] <exec> 08└─I've always thought that people built those cathedrals precisely because they were dirt poor. If you and all your kin live in mud huts with thatch roofs that can be readily blow away by a modest storm, you may just want to build a substantial community shelter. Those huge cathedrals weren't knocked...
[12:52:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:46] <exec> 08└─no one on either side had any interest in tearing down hierarchies
[12:52:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:48] <exec> 08└─And, per Peter Gabriel, we shall worship in a big church, and heaven will be a big heaven and we will walk through the front door?
[12:52:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:51] <exec> 08└─This study implies that religion is a consequence of complex society
[12:52:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:53] <exec> 08└─the Jews were (and are) a micro tribe.
[12:52:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:55] <exec> 08└─I had the pleasure of visiting a tiny Norman chapel in Kent once. I was told it was one of the first churches built after the 1066 invasion, which may well be true. The walls are about 1.5 metres thick stone, and the windows are arrow slits. It doesn't take much imagination to figure out why they b...
[12:52:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:52:57] <exec> 08└─Whenever I see a string of conversations between AC, I of course assume it's someone having fun talking to himself. What else to assume of a coward?
[12:52:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:00] <exec> 08└─When you're killing people by the tens of millions, there is SOMETHING wrong, isn't there?
[12:53:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:02] <exec> 08└─in both Russia and China the communists won because they were not replacing people with a proven track record of success, they were replacing brutal, corrupt warlords or dictators
[12:53:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:04] <exec> 08└─None of that is true, I'm sorry to tell you. And they proceeded to kill or imprison the people with the proven track record of success.
[12:53:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:06] <exec> 08└─Eastern Pennsylvania, one of those little towns near Hershey, has something similar. The settlers built their fort out of slate, approximately a yard thick. It's the only structure I've ever seen built of flint. The sheets of rock weren't trimmed very meticulously, especially on the outside, they we...
[12:53:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:08] <exec> 08└─If you need to work hard in order to survive, then you don't actually need a work ethic, you just need a survival impulse.
[12:53:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:11] <exec> 08└─The problem with your "Communism murdered millions of people, therefore it's bad" trope is that it's not really true. What is true is that in both the Soviet Union and China millions died during periods of political upheaval, but when you assert "Communism killed them" you're over simplifying it.
[12:53:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:13] <exec> 08└─That is interesting. I would not have thought of any American towns being walled like so many European ones are, but I suppose during the colonial period they needed to be. Interestingly the walls of Canterbury in Kent are made of flint too. The Romans built them and they were maintained ever since....
[12:53:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:15] <exec> 08└─Oh, the town isn't walled, I don't think it ever was. The fortress, as it stands today, is a two story structure, approximately 100 yards long, and maybe 75 yards deep. Back when the town was beginning, it was probably large enough for the entire population to get inside. I don't even know if the fo...
[12:53:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:17] <exec> 08└─He said we lived in a "optical delusion" (simulation), and wanted to break out of it: “A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feeling as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of...
[12:53:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:20] <exec> 08└─whoa dude! the fact that every AC before you is a complete moron who's never read anything buy official history don't give you the right of spew all these unconfortable truths! also it's a complete waste like you know throwing pearls to pigs
[12:53:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:22] <exec> 08└─The problem with communism is that it was usually used or taken over by, totalitarians. For a country full of serfs or the equivalent, communism sounds great, get rid of the government, share everything and have a pure democracy, but it seems every communist revolution saw totalitarians take charge...
[12:53:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:24] <exec> 08└─Quebec city was walled https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] and I believe the Spanish also built walls around some (many?) of their cities. Forts all over N. America were usually walled with logs and the townspeople would retreat to them in case of attack.
[12:53:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 1247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:26] <exec> 08└─>Needing to survive doesn't mean you know how to survive. Nope, but starvation goes a long way to motivate you to do whatever is needed. And any individual that fails is eliminated from the gene pool, so if somebody "doesn't know how to survive", it's because we created a society so alien from the n...
[12:53:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:28] <exec> 08└─>Religions with powerful gods are a consequence of a complex society I think you're overreaching, their findings were "moralizing gods usually followed increases in social complexity". Not powerful, monotheistic gods, just moralizing ones - as in they are claimed to care about the way people conduct...
[12:53:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:31] <exec> 08└─No question that "stuff" was torn down - but the only "stuff" relevant to CW's comment is hierarchy, which was decidedly NOT torn down. There was no lack of hierarchy in the new order, just a change in who was at the top.
[12:53:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:33] <exec> 08└─I don't buy, for example, that the Holodomor [wikipedia.org] would have happened under the Czarists.
[12:53:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:53:35] <exec> 08└─I don't know about you, but I'm on my way. I'm making it.
[12:54:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03istartedi [123] 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 696 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:04] <exec> 08└─As much as I would have liked to drop French for a programming language, that would not have been good. Learning a foreign language doesn't just involve an alternative syntax and vocabulary. It also encompasses culture, cuisine, history, and politics. It opens doors into other *human* societies. Sor...
[12:54:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:15] <exec> 08└─Anyone studying history of the twentieth and twenty-first century will still need to learn English.
[12:54:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:16] <exec> 08└─You might as well go for Japanese, it's one of the easier languages to pick up in many people's opinions. The killer, as always, is colloquialisms.
[12:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:19] <exec> 08└─Screw you "professor of languages and literatures"
[12:54:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:21] <exec> 08└─The major argument for learning a second language in the US is that it exposes you to new ways of thinking. Computer languages do this even moreso as logic is an entirely new concept to most of humanity. If you live in a tiny country that relies on international trade and does not have the current l...
[12:54:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:23] <exec> 08└─Exactly. If we steal the useful bits of another language, we don't have to waste time learning it.
[12:54:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:25] <exec> 08└─The font is you, the layout is us.
[12:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:28] <exec> 08└─At higher levels of math, there is as much vocabulary or more than many programming languages. So, with enough math you should be able to get your foreign language requirement too.
[12:54:29] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 138 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:30] <exec> 08└─I couldn't pass a foreign language course to saving my life, yet in the past forty years I probably written code in over thirty languages.
[12:54:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:32] <exec> 08└─They avoid new "key words" - analogous perhaps to verbs from the compiler's perspective - but every new function, class, and variable name is still a word in the vocabulary, wouldn't you say? Functionally all proper nouns from the compiler's perspective, but often verbs or phrases from the programme...
[12:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:34] <exec> 08└─Language classes wouldn't be GPA killing wastes of time, if we'd actually be willing to pay what it costs to get and support competent people teaching the classes. There are some competent people, but the pay and generally terrible work conditions drive most out after a few years. Language instructi...
[12:54:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:36] <exec> 08└─But, when our robot overlords rise up and prosper, computer coders are likely the only ones who can speak with them in their native tongue. (Still, by the time the robots are prospering, they can probably speak our languages better than we can...)
[12:54:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:39] <exec> 08└─Lisp languages allow you to build any language you want. What kind of iteration and flow of control mechanisms do you want? What kind of function invocation? Recursion? Other flow control mechanisms? Invent your own new ones! Exceptions? Stack unwinding? What kind of variable scoping do you want? Wh...
[12:54:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:41] <exec> 08└─Computer languages don't do anything in the curriculum to further that goal that isn't better done in math. The US isn't going to be the center of trade much longer with this sort of extreme narcissism. Also, having to always interact with people in your own language places you at an extreme disadva...
[12:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:43] <exec> 08└─When you learn to speak English, and learn to read and write, get back to us.
[12:54:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:46] <exec> 08└─The main issue with language in the K-12 system is that it's not taught effectively. The time and resources available should really be more of a light conversational class with far less grammar. If a student can't carry on a basica conversation, even if limited in scope, then all the grammar rules i...
[12:54:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 1931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:48] <exec> 08└─PE is valuable to almost everyone, because almost everyone gets insufficient exercise to maintain their body and promote healthy growth, which is especially important in the developing years. The sports-obsession of most PE classes however is completely gratuitous for most people if not outright cou...
[12:54:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 1169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:50] <exec> 08└─> it exposes you to new ways of thinking Only if you're not fluent in math yet. It's arguably a decent substitute for a mid-level math credit on those grounds, but not a foreign language. Computer languages are designed to issue commands to a glorified calculator. They expose you to new ways of thin...
[12:54:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:52] <exec> 08└─Recognizing facts is not even mild narcissism, much less extreme, and the fact of the matter is we are the world's most influential economic superpower. If we weren't, we couldn't get away with most of us speaking only English. But we are. Laziness? Probably. Narcissism? Nope.
[12:54:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:55] <exec> 08└─Human language in contrast is designed to communicate. To allow the efficient, bi-directional exchange of complex human concepts - something computer languages can't do at all.
[12:54:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:57] <exec> 08└─the i in "iostream" is a different font then the i in "while". I guess the lines starting with "#" are in fixed-width, the rest not. this is firefox version a million or whatever they're at, on ubuntu.
[12:54:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:54:59] <exec> 08└─No. Next article.
[12:55:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:01] <exec> 08└─i would not say that a programming language is a foreign language. i good programming language however is completely encapsulated in the venn diagram-circle labeled "logic". languages intersect the venn-diagram of logic. sometimes more, sometimes less. some even try to avoid intersecting it all toge...
[12:55:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:03] <exec> 08└─As a professor of languages and literatures, I am naturally skeptical of such a position. I fervently believe that foreign language learning is essential for children’s development into informed and productive citizens of the world.
[12:55:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03AssCork [6255] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:06] <exec> 08└─All the pain and torture of learning French with none of the fun of unit-tests.
[12:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:08] <exec> 08└─Most people retain hardly any of the maths they are taught in high school beyond what they already knew from middle school. Same goes for ‘coding’. I can teach someone in a week to ‘code’ as well as most retain from a year long course in HS. At least the foreign language exposes the student...
[12:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:10] <exec> 08└─We can do that without learning French. Culture: be lazy, demand that the government make you impossible to fire, go on strike, riot Cuisine: whine... I mean wine, and cheese. They eat horses and snails. History: attacked Russia in the winter and lost, defeated by Germany and saved by the USA, did t...
[12:55:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:12] <exec> 08└─You failed to say anything about what happened after you read it... Or was your point that basic logic classes should take precedence over both of them?
[12:55:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 1048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:15] <exec> 08└─This may be news for you, but... we don't require calculus for graduation. My wife's sister whined to us that she had to pass an algebra class in college. In college!!! In other words, she graduated from high school without it. I see that in the graduation requirements for my kid's college too; a bi...
[12:55:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:17] <exec> 08└─Techs need foreign language. If not just wel round. But to understand that dates have many many formats. Ca;aendars have different alignments. Names are not just First and Last, let along character sets and sorting rules.
[12:55:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:19] <exec> 08└─echo "me: ^M $(CC) sandwich.c" >makefile && sudo make me
[12:55:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:21] <exec> 08└─Having American students learn Spanish is an acceptance and encouragement of the conquest of America. It is an enabler. I'm doing my part, prohibiting my kids from learning Spanish. Do your part. Also, when you hear Spanish, call ICE.
[12:55:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:24] <exec> 08└─Lets go for the same benchmark. Out of 100 people, do more than two retain any of the knowledge they pick up in the class?
[12:55:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:26] <exec> 08└─Aaaah, the Pascal pointer syntax! It burnssss!
[12:55:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 4030 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:28] <exec> 08└─Even the least attentive kids that have passed the exams for a foreign language in high school will retain some portion of the information. Like any other high school subject, that is not likely to lead to fluency unless there are other factors involved (eg. pet hobby related to the subject matter,...
[12:55:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03brausch [3519] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:30] <exec> 08└─I took two years of Latin in high school (almost 50 years ago). I've since earned multiple engineering and computer science degrees and programmed professionally in 15 or so computer languages. None of them has helped my human communication skills as much as the two years of Latin helped my English.
[12:55:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:33] <exec> 08└─"As a professor of languages and literatures" (which isn't a word, by the way. "Literature" is an uncountable noun, meaning it is neither singular nor plural, and does not have a plural form) I don't think he is qualified to speak about computer languages. You see, a shitty programmer writes code fo...
[12:55:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:35] <exec> 08└─Have you ever taken a graduate-level math class? Math gets pretty frigging abstract - real mathematicians don't do arithmetic, they formulate and prove theorems and develop algorithms. And to do so they must decompose their claims into tiny steps that invoke only a single previously-proven theorem a...
[12:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:37] <exec> 08└─Programming languages are indeed about getting stuff done rather than discussing them but they most assuredly both invite and demand new ways of thinking about things, which is the claim the "everyone must learn other languages" folks are always making to justify their position. Between the several...
[12:55:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Is Computer Code a Foreign Language? - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:39] <exec> 08└─> Very hard to become the Pope without learning Latin. In totally unrelated news, a rather high ranking priest forgets the verb [youtu.be] when giving the urbi et orbi absolution of sins. (I guess the Holy Spirit was like: "You called? Where am I supposed to go, chief?"). As for the topic, no it's n...
[12:55:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 836 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:55:49] <exec> 08└─Leaving aside the whole big city arrogance thing (and the ridiculous pronouncements and judgments of such snobs) this is not at all like "owning a horse will be quaint." Back in the day when horses were the transportation tool, the vast majority of people in massive cities didn't own them either but...
[12:56:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:16] <exec> 08└─> schedule it in advance so it arrives around the exact time you want it to show up. And if a gazillion others want to get somewhere at the same time, a bidding war will ensue for the scarce resource. As long as there are rush hours, because businesses open and close around the same time of day, the...
[12:56:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:18] <exec> 08└─> Car ownership is now pricier than car leasing ... Maybe for some cases, but not if you buy a used car and maintain it. Or, if you don't put many miles on your car (so the fixed costs like insurance dominate).
[12:56:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:20] <exec> 08└─Can someone explain to me how driverless rideshare cars drastically reduce the number of cars in the system (as is being claimed for a metro area)? I
[12:56:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:22] <exec> 08└─Ok, previous AC here. Sounds like there isn't any magic sauce, just incremental improvements available. From all the hype, I thought I might be missing something? Note that ridesharing is already a thing, so any increase in that segment will also be incremental. See for example, https://www.rideshar...
[12:56:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:25] <exec> 08└─Car ownership is now pricier than car leasing
[12:56:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:27] <exec> 08└─Moreover, TFA's comparison with horses taking over from cars is utter nonsense. Cars and horses, apart from both being forms of transport, are otherwise radically different - in speed for a start. OTOH, cars that are owned and cars that are hired are very similar; in fact the difference is only visi...
[12:56:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:29] <exec> 08└─I don't know about OP's boss, but my move from the city to the country increased my commute distance by 10 mi, but reduced my commute time by 15 min because I no longer need to go across the entire city and deal with traffic the entire way.
[12:56:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:31] <exec> 08└─Where exactly will said tongue lashing be applied? *cough*
[12:56:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:33] <exec> 08└─Newer cars require to be plugged into a computer to be maintained. Only authorised mechanics who sign expensive NDAs get the software. Soon you will be SOL
[12:56:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:36] <exec> 08└─I will die before I buy another car. I don't say that because I am particularly old or sick, but because I am at the front end of one of the next major secular trends in tech.
[12:56:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:38] <exec> 08└─A slightly longer commute in exchange for a nice private country home? I'd do it in a heartbeat.
[12:56:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 1314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:40] <exec> 08└─Malls are the ideal suburban travel hubs of the future. You don't think there is any way that someone could start putting shit that people need inside the giant empty malls of america? That empty sears? With it's loading bays, full service garages with lifts and everything? Plus they can fill the re...
[12:56:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:42] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of unoccupied land :-) There's usually a pretty good reason for that. On the other hand, there is Palm Springs.
[12:56:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:44] <exec> 08└─Even that is high. I just checked Craigslist and there's a place that will board for $100/mo you feed, or $150/mo and they feed. It doesn't say anything about exercise though. Usually you can find somebody who wants to ride your horse once in a while. The hard part is probably getting the proper dai...
[12:56:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:47] <exec> 08└─Commutte time is not always wasted. For example, now that I do not commutte I struggle to find the time in my day to listen to audio books.
[12:56:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:49] <exec> 08└─> Then, you account for the possiblity of sharing. First, for peak hours, you will be able to select what of group of people you feel comfortable to share with Why have the passengers in the same open compartment? Why not have partitions that allow you to have some security and privacy? Imagine a 4-...
[12:56:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:51] <exec> 08└─Darn, I got stuck reading that post for hours!
[12:56:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 4069 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:54] <exec> 08└─I'm middle-aged, I have a car in good shape with a lifetime powertrain warranty (and the way I keep my cars, I expect it to last another 20 years.) I do not expect to own another car in my lifetime even though I have owned 8 other cars previously. Thanks to the internet, I can work at home, shop at...
[12:56:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:56] <exec> 08└─Can someone explain to me how driverless rideshare cars drastically reduce the number of cars in the system (as is being claimed for a metro area)? I can see a small reduction because some small number of people don't travel during rush hour, that's about it??
[12:56:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:56:58] <exec> 08└─She also doesn't spend any precious time listening to her upstairs neighbors clacking around.
[12:56:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:00] <exec> 08└─And cows taking over from cars is udder nonsense.
[12:57:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:03] <exec> 08└─There's usually a pretty good reason for that.
[12:57:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:05] <exec> 08└─On the whole land gets more valuable. Sure places like Detroit may go down in value, but nowhere near as much as cars, or a conservative sandwich heavy portfolio [youtube.com]
[12:57:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:07] <exec> 08└─Consider an evacuation from a class 5 hurricane. All vehicles need to go the same direction. All vehicles are going a long distance. It is thus nearly impossible to reuse the vehicles; they are occupied and moving far away. The government even reverses the direction on one side of the freeway, doubl...
[12:57:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:09] <exec> 08└─Nailed it in one. It adds about 20 minutes to her commute, but she's an audiobook addict, so doesn't mind.
[12:57:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:11] <exec> 08└─Cars that are hired are much like horses that were hired. Urban people did not own a horse, they called a cab or rented. In the future, I think rural people will still own cars (just like they owned horses) as it is hard to depend on a cab in the countryside
[12:57:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Car Ownership Soon Become "Quaint"? - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:14] <exec> 08└─With horses, of course!
[12:57:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:37] <exec> 08└─Remember IE6?
[12:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:38] <exec> 08└─Yes, barely ever used it- probably only for Windows Update. I don't quite understand what you're getting at. Are you a web developer?
[12:57:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:40] <exec> 08└─Standardization is good, but this isn't that. This, is Monopoly.
[12:57:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:43] <exec> 08└─Does this mean node on ChakraCore is dead?
[12:57:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:45] <exec> 08└─WTF sort of "animations and touches" can Microsoft add that any sane person would want? Clippy? Windows 10 nagware? A monthly browser subscription fee?
[12:57:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:47] <exec> 08└─Devil's advocate: But that's what Linux is (and FreeBSD to some extent a well). The Linux APIs are standard by virtue of being a monopoly. Most software written for Linux cannot interoperate with any other kernel (not counting compatibility libraries/compilers that abstract away the Linux specific s...
[12:57:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:49] <exec> 08└─Part of what I do involves web dev. Another is fixing problems with vendor products where possible. We don't want another situation where a dominant browser screws the eco system so badly hacks are needed for years to dodge around problems. I've only just forgotten the crap with IE10/IE11. Edge has...
[12:57:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A First Look at Microsoft’s New Chromium-powered Edge Browser - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:57:52] <exec> 08└─Heat death of the universe would also bring about standardization.
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[13:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:30] <exec> 08└─The boring test tunnel is a similar width as a typical tube tunnel, which can carry about 30,000 people an hour
[13:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:31] <exec> 08└─So there is actually someone in a high position who has not fallen for Musk's charm and hype. They must be a unique case, a PhD study in psychology for someone?
[13:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:33] <exec> 08└─Not enough $s.
[13:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:58] <exec> 08└─Whatever you think about Redox itself, I like the idea that someone has created a libc in Rust. This means that what they have created got the potential to be used by other OS. I think it is good to have an alternative with memory safety guaranties to "normal" libc (whatever it is gnu libc, musl or...
[13:38:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 240 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:25] <exec> 08└─Dealing with mental illness is an iffy proposition at best. It's a shame we don't have better ways to treat such diseases. MDC was, for all his (mostly endearing) wackiness, good to have around here. He will be missed by many, including me.
[13:38:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:37] <exec> 08└─I think people who bring up petty quarrels at a virtual funeral are assholes.
[13:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:14] <exec> 08└─I don't know if anything could have been changed by MDC or anyone else to improve things. He was chaotic in both helpful and unhelpful ways both to himself and others - he could be clear-thinking and lucid in some areas, and differently sane in others - I'm fairly sure the decisions he made made sen...
[13:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:15] <exec> 08└─One of the most interesting people I have met online. I really liked him for being funny, odd and intelligent. Rest in peace.
[13:39:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 271 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:55] <exec> 08└─I ask this purely in the interest of science, and of furthering the collective understanding of the human race: ...what the ever-loving chthonic fuck is wrong with you?! How is this even relevant? You're even more pathetic than Trump continuing his feud with a dead man.
[13:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:24] <exec> 08└─That turd passed (348 yes, 274 no, 36 abstain/absent votes) and should now be implemented within two years.
[13:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:25] <exec> 08└─It's done
[13:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:51] <exec> 08└─Schools in Homs or Mosul wouldn't be able to afford LifeAlert pendants for all the staff. (I presume that's what these are if they can alert to "the location and nature of the emergency.") But, staff location tracking aside, it sounds very similar to these [rathsecurity.com], only indoors. The blue...
[13:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:52] <exec> 08└─Just tap your heels twice and all your trouble are gone.
[13:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:54] <exec> 08└─Well said. Yet it has seemed like for a long time the concept that "you won't get away with it, we will catch you and you'll be in for a nice long stay with Bubba," has had deterrent effects. "Go ahead, but think and don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time." But from 9/11 to Brenton Tarr...
[13:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:03] <exec> 08└─Nope, but starvation goes a long way to motivate you to do whatever is needed. And any individual that fails is eliminated from the gene pool, so if somebody "doesn't know how to survive", it's because we created a society so alien from the natural order that instinct is insufficient.
[13:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:05] <exec> 08└─They killed and imprisoned the people who had enslaved them for generations.
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[14:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:01] <exec> 08└─...bugfree 100% secure software is a myth
[14:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:24] <exec> 08└─Do a lot of people have PCs that just automatically download malware because Cloud? I mean the pcs, not the operating systems.
[14:39:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 285 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:27] <exec> 08└─Maybe we can put a quote or two of his in the quotations thing. "You say that like it's a bad thing." "I Am Eternally In Your Debt." "The Mind Simply Reels." "Thank You For Your Submission. Our customer service personnel will respond to your request in the order it was received." etc.
[14:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Codesmith [5811] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:30] <exec> 08└─Well shit. Odd and off-the-wall, but generally worth reading. The world's a little less interesting now.
[14:39:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:32] <exec> 08└─Similar concerns here. I was thinking it sucked, but, I didn't see a suicide coming. Such is health care in America - if you've got a steady job, you can probably afford the basics, and maybe better than just basics. If you're not working steady, things go to hell fast. MDC probably should have been...
[14:39:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:34] <exec> 08└─He seems like the kind of guy who would live stream his suicide
[14:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:37] <exec> 08└─I thought everyone knew the answer to that. Are you slow, or what? https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[14:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:39] <exec> 08└─I happened to think MDC was a good guy. Mixed up, confused, and misinformed in some respects, but a good guy all the same. For those who are Catholic, a votive candle wouldn't be wasted on the man. Hell, I might light one, and I'm not even Catholic.
[14:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:48] <exec> 08└─You can always do like the old days, be a pirate! We can't do anything about stupid laws forced upon us by a strong force of powerful and stupid, but we can have our fun in the tunnels beneath society.
[14:41:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:17] <exec> 08└─It doesn't mean that we need to do something to attempt to avoid that same event in the future. Sometimes bad things happen and no set of reasonable preparations would have avoided them. An example is school shootings(or knife attacks, or bomb attacks) a reasonable sounding response might be give po...
[14:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Only_Mortal [7122] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:43] <exec> 08└─What ever happended to their skunk-works reactor on a semi-trailer project? I'd offer that if those brains can't get it really working there's either not the political will or our physics/engineering isn't as good as we'd hope.
[14:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:31] <exec> 08└─Notice that in both your cases, we have actual weather to blame? Meanwhile for the Holodomor, one immediately has to go to Soviet agricultural policy to find the causes of the famine. Let's not pretend the Czarist regime was anything but brutal and incompetent.
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[15:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:26] <exec> 08└─So, is something wrong? Just standard fat cutting? Did that many people work themselves out of a job? One might assume that at a certain point, you will need fewer people to manage more servers, but a really big layoff would seem to indicate something else. There's a huge difference between 0.4% and...
[15:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:27] <exec> 08└─> The insider [...] recounted being summoned to an office last week with other team members, and being told to leave that afternoon. No notice, no task handover period, nothing? Yay, awesome way to say "thanks for all your work".
[15:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:29] <exec> 08└─but anything that's bad for Oracle looks good to me. There is nothing I like about the company. Is there any chance that Oracle will follow SCO into history?
[15:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bussdriver [6876] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:38] <exec> 08└─It probably applies to most everything. 80% of youtube is toxic shit which causes long term harm. Is the 20% of harmless or useful content worth it? That is the real question. Some people learn a few things... their betterment offsets the 80% who get worse? People digging past the click-bait traps t...
[15:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:40] <exec> 08└─Don't worry about the percentages. Just do your best. Live a good life. Vote for decent social security. If people follow your example, all the better.
[15:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:43] <exec> 08└─You seem to be referring to the "lowest common denominator". Those people who spend their days being entertained by LCD entertainers, are, in and of themselves, LCD's. No, they aren't worse, after seeing the trash on television, or on the movie screens, or on Youtube. They are exactly the persons be...
[15:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 1452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:10] <exec> 08└─>if...you trust the OS That's just it though - you can never completely trust the OS. Even if it's not malicious in any way, it's also basically guaranteed to not be perfect, and so malware will inevitably be able to bypass any software restrictions. As for seeing the evidence on an ammeter - assumi...
[15:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:22] <exec> 08└─and why we should care: Redox is a Unix-like microkernel operating system written in the programming language Rust, a language with a strong focus on safety, stability, and high performance.[2][3][4] Redox aims to be secure, usable, and free. Redox is inspired by prior kernels and operating systems,...
[15:39:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 196 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:33] <exec> 08└─Mike, you were nuttier than squirrel shit but you were intelligent, funny, and had a better attitude towards life, the universe, and everything than most people. We'll miss you, you goofy bastard.
[15:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:45] <exec> 08└─Yeah, his posts started getting weirder and ..uh...more prolific?.... lately, posting about EVERYTHING.... .....i have so little time anymore and wasn't keeping up on his posts which just seemed 'crazy' lately. Crazy like a fox. Too bad. RIP.
[15:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, suicide is pretty unexpected. But from what I understand people who are talk about committing suicide are less likely to do it than those who are thinking about it but don't tell anyone. I guess him saying his funeral would be on April 1st was the only hint to it that he gave.
[15:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:49] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Bnk6VU53Y [youtube.com]
[15:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:51] <exec> 08└─So, your friend was a dirt-bag scum sucking asshole. Why do you have a problem with MDC again?
[15:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:53] <exec> 08└─I always think of MDC as Michael Crawford. Fraaaaaank! https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Good show. Good man. Rest. in. peace. and stay crazy... your kind of crazy was nice and respectful. The world needed more of you and less of assholes.
[15:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:55] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upaXfd6INpI [youtube.com]
[15:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:58] <exec> 08└─I will confess to having foed him, not because I disliked anything about him, it's just that I couldn't deal with that level of off-the-wall sureality at unexpected moments in threads.
[15:40:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 17 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:08] <exec> 08└─Short-term growth
[15:40:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:47] <exec> 08└─Came in expecting racist trolls, was sad I was correct.
[15:40:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:49] <exec> 08└─So - you expect Trump to let the zombies get him, just because they were dead, and are now undead? You let him feud with the dead guy, FFS. As for O'Bummer - what's your problem with me putting him in perspective? WTF, are former presidents suddenly sacrosanct, or some such shit? I regularly bash AL...
[15:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03J_Darnley [5679] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:51] <exec> 08└─I love you Ebola-chan!
[15:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:53] <exec> 08└─The comments really took a nose dive from the start. Ebola is endemic to really poor areas of the world, is quite resilient, and very deadly. Those are the kinds of things that really make Ebola scary. Also, air travel has brought the world mere hours apart from any other place in the world. It's un...
[15:41:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 700 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:25] <exec> 08└─Increased focus of addressing student behavioral issues instead of fortification? Yeah, doesn't sound too bad. The implied tracking of the workforce in having them wear pendants that can report their location to.... anyone with the correct passkeys? Not so much. The ability, if a citizen alarm is ra...
[15:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:43] <exec> 08└─Agree with everyone saying that prevention would be better. Given current society, it makes sense: After an event, one would want police able to review the cameras, so giving them live access to the cameras IN EMERGENCY is comparable to setting off the fire alarm or the sprinklers IN EMERGENCY. So i...
[15:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:10] <exec> 08└─There is a rich field in simulating high density plasmas contained in magnetic fields. Lots of codes exist to do the magnetohydrodynamics correctly, for example by solving Vlasov equation, or doing Particle-in-Cell calculation, or solving for the coulomb potential using fourier transform analysis. P...
[15:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:00] <exec> 08└─They wouldn't have starved under a capitalist system.
[15:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Complex Societies Gave Birth to Big Gods, Not the Other Way Around - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:01] <exec> 08└─Point taken. I did overstate my point. Thank you for that perspective.
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[16:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:27] <exec> 08└─I printed a page for my coworkers some year back. I think it was still during Obama's time.
[16:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:29] <exec> 08└─Yup. Heard about it years ago. It turns out that being ready for the Zombie apocalypse is similar to being ready for most major natural disasters, except for the number of weapons likely to be used.
[16:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:31] <exec> 08└─Even the likes of the CDC has a sense of humor.
[16:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:33] <exec> 08└─me2. Possibly from around here actually: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[16:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:36] <exec> 08└─Telling you where you can loot firearms and explosives during the Zombie Apocalypse. :-)
[16:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:46] <exec> 08└─What happened to all that "the cloud is the future" bullshit? That was where all the rainbows ended and there was some sort of infinite pot of gold. So they are sending away all their foreign workers then? To expensive? Looking to rehire them back in India again for cents on the dollar?
[16:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:48] <exec> 08└─Well, it's obvious the work wasn't worth much to them if they need no handover. If they were documentation freaks, that will teach them.
[16:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:51] <exec> 08└─No notice, no task handover period, nothing? Yay, awesome way to say "thanks for all your work".
[16:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:53] <exec> 08└─When I was a young buck, I slew a mighty lion, they called me Lion Slayer. A few years later, I single-handedly shot five stampeding elephants from trampling over a farm, they called me Protector of Farms. Then I shot a single arrow into the heart of a dragon that had been terrorising villages, and...
[16:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:55] <exec> 08└─I only feel bad for the employees. After all, as a company that seems more interested in hiring lawyers to sue than it wants to hire tech people to create good products. Magic 8-Ball says "Outlook Cloudy".
[16:38:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 378 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:03] <exec> 08└─So rich people can be luddites too. Avoiding tech is just as stupid as letting it run your life. Smart people use tech with intention. Avoid bad tech like mindless infinity pools and choose good tech like all the free educational material. Sure YouTube has pewdiepie, it also has khan academy. Knowin...
[16:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:08] <exec> 08└─So rich people can be luddites too. Avoiding tech is just as stupid as letting it run your life. Smart people use tech with intention.
[16:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:10] <exec> 08└─Not answering e-mail is what my wife does. She sort of checks it, but she doesn't communicate that way. Totally ignoring e-mail is a viable option, but blaming e-mail for social issues is crazy. I go without a phone for a day quite frequently, because I forgot it at home. Social networks are code wo...
[16:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:12] <exec> 08└─If human contact is now a "luxury good", is it OK for me to pay for it like I would any other luxury item?
[16:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:25] <exec> 08└─How come they don't put the trucks between the cars, instead of under them? You got the truck, put a big post in the middle, and that's the coupling. Discuss?
[16:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:27] <exec> 08└─Here's what I'm looking for [wikimedia.org]. You need half the trucks this way.
[16:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:29] <exec> 08└─We don't want a tunnel. We want a Monorail! With windows!
[16:38:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:31] <exec> 08└─You seem to have mistaken them for Boeing, et al.
[16:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:34] <exec> 08└─Most definitely, this. It seems to me that Musk's companies are doing things the right way. I.E. no bribes, corruption, etc.
[16:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:36] <exec> 08└─In time, all things shall pass.
[16:38:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Pino P [4721] 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:47] <exec> 08└─Why does a phone have to double as a tablet or tiny laptop?
[16:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:53] <exec> 08└─Remove the battery... What? You can't? Oopsy Daisy! Be careful what you buy.. Sorry folks, but if the machine has power, it is being tracked.
[16:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:55] <exec> 08└─if the machine has power, it is being tracked.
[16:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:19] <exec> 08└─I believe it. ASUS is a major brand, I assume that bloatware was pre-installed on their system, with auto-updates enabled. Your typical friendly nerd wouldn't necessarily be telling granny to disable that thing that provides free security updates, either.
[16:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Spyware Sneaks into 'Million-ish' Asus PCs via Poisoned Software Updates, Says Kaspersky - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:20] <exec> 08└─This has nothing to do with "cloud". PCs have been shipping with manufacturers' software, as well as 3rd party software, that is set to auto-update by default for a looooong time. Long before "cloud" was a thing.
[16:39:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:40] <exec> 08└─He had more friends than detractors here, and some of the best off-topic comments.
[16:40:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:17] <exec> 08└─In memory of MDC, I think tonight we should all go out and GET BLOWN THROUGH A GLORY HOLE, it's what he would have wanted.
[16:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:39] <exec> 08└─For those who don't put any stock in that song - try this much later live version. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Just look at all of the old, worn-out, has beens, both on and off the stage.
[16:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:40] <exec> 08└─That would be fitting and those are pretty good quotes.
[16:40:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:43] <exec> 08└─Life is like a box of chocolates. At the end, You're left with the one nobody else wants.
[16:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:45] <exec> 08└─Seconded. MDC raised issues no one else did and made many discussions worthwhile engaging in that I'd usually just not care about. He would be sorely missed.
[16:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:39] <exec> 08└─I favor containment -- a complete quarantine of the area.
[16:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:40] <exec> 08└─So you're saying that if I can save millions by killing you and the handful of others like you, I should absolutely do it?
[16:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:42] <exec> 08└─You kinda maybe deserve an "interesting", possibly an "informative". Pretty much all of America has forgotten what a quarantine is. I don't have first hand knowledge, but I got the impression that violating quarantine in days long past was a capital offense.
[16:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:45] <exec> 08└─The comments really took a nose dive from the start.
[16:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:47] <exec> 08└─very deadly
[16:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:05] <exec> 08└─I think people underestimate the attractiveness of Mars, Venus, the Asteroids, and even Jovian/Saturnian moons as compared to an Earth with 100B homo-sapiens resident.
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[17:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:29] <exec> 08└─Have your stuff printed in the US - if you can afford it. Deal with China at your own risk and according to what money you're willing to fork off.
[17:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03broggyr [3589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:30] <exec> 08└─How's that cost-saving measure working out for you now?
[17:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:42] <exec> 08└─And drugs -- oh, wrong department.
[17:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:44] <exec> 08└─What about flamethrowers? Those would be good for an ebola outbreak as well.
[17:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, and they've found that the popularity of it made it a good choice for doing some public health education. They have lesson plans about emergency preparedness for teachers they disguise as "zombie apocalypse" material. If you call your emergency supplies a "bug out bag" and omit the guns, sudden...
[17:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:48] <exec> 08└─+1 Troll!
[17:37:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:57] <exec> 08└─but anything that's bad for Oracle looks good to me. There is nothing I like about the company. Is there any chance that Oracle will follow SCO into history?
[17:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:04] <exec> 08└─Would you let Oracle handle your cloud infrastructure? Perhaps the problem is that in a lot of people won't touch then with a ten foot pole after getting locked to their database and going through unlubed licensing increases. They really are a complete asshole of a company. I'm probably giving peopl...
[17:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:07] <exec> 08└─HR Mangler: "Um ... severance pay is handled by our HR branch in New Delhi. Here is their number, toll charges may apply and there can be some delays. Its best if you can speak Hindi."
[17:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 1637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:20] <exec> 08└─Kids need to 'experience' things LIVE: they need to fall down and hurt themselves, as in fall off the monkey bars and maybe break an arm. They then learn there are limitations to what they can do and can't do, etc. they learn about gravity, physics. I am not on Facebook and don't miss anything about...
[17:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:22] <exec> 08└─I modded you insightful: i remind my wife about important emails pertaining to her, but beyond that... social networking is stupid: as in garbage. Too many people thinking you want to know about their poop schedule. I am her personal secretary, but only because she doesn't know what "Just open a tab...
[17:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:24] <exec> 08└─is it really so impossible for middle-class and poor people to use less tech?
[17:38:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:43] <exec> 08└─No denying that (although 100+ years ago digging large wide tunnels wasn't as easy as now. Victoria line probably should have been bigger. JLE was, and Crossrail obviously is) However if you're going to build a small tunnel and transport 30-50 cars a minute in it, it's not really what most people co...
[17:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:14] <exec> 08└─Are you saying the microkernel is a bad thing?
[17:39:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 475 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:37] <exec> 08└─He had more friends than detractors here, and some of the best off-topic comments. He was very self-deprecating, and would often upmod jokes made at his expense. I think I was only slightly concerned by the weird last journal [soylentnews.org] he made because he had posted similar stuff before. I ch...
[17:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:50] <exec> 08└─Well poop. Every community needs a few colorful yet eccentric characters and MBC certainly was that. We are all diminished by his passing.
[17:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:08] <exec> 08└─Driverless cars are far from cheap. Owning the cars is a major change in the cost structure for Uber. "we're bleeding money and could lose many customers if we stopped subsidizing rides below costs, but if our murderous tech catches up, and gets approved for deployment by hundreds of agencies, we ca...
[17:41:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:51] <exec> 08└─I've never before felt so clearly that we need a "Nazi" mod. Calling a spade a spade.
[17:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Copyright Directive Vote Set for Tuesday - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:13] <exec> 08└─As much as I hate facebook, and the fact that google no longer "does no evil"; I hope that both of them block all relevant services in the EU. Google did this in Spain about 5 years ago and I remember the Spainish newspapers saw website traffic drop like a rock afterwards.
[17:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:12] <exec> 08└─an Earth with 100B homo-sapiens resident That's very unlikely... We're just like any other species, we will reach a limit that cannot be extended. It's really nothing to be concerned about.
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[18:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:25] <exec> 08└─Cthulhu didn't want that supplement to be published, and therefore made the government burn it.
[18:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:26] <exec> 08└─They got a refund, so it's just a delay ... It's their fault though. To avoid censorship, they tried to make Cthulhu friendlier-looking, rounded his face and gave it a gentle smile and colorful skin, which caused the editor to worry that it was the Evil Winnie The Pooh !
[18:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:28] <exec> 08└─Chemical factory fire may havebeen the same cover story, forthe printing was too realistic.
[18:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:31] <exec> 08└─Somebody needs to make a movie where tentacles start coming out of more and more places in China. It could be done as B-grade horror/monster stuff but totally inspired by their "polite society" having angered a monster or species they don't understand. It would be much like Godzilla is kind of campy...
[18:37:32] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 657 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I don't the idea that it was documented carefully from their website. http://sonsofthesingularity.com [sonsofthesingularity.com] Description of conflicts between communists, nationalists, a jewish tycoon, gangsters, and even the Japanese. Depictions of men bearing a red banner f...
[18:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03etherscythe [937] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:35] <exec> 08└─Burning just seems like such a waste. Seriously, destroy it and give back the deposit - fine. But burning? That's a symbolic action. They should probably announce what their beef with it was, otherwise the conspiracy theories are going to scare off their business. Plus, they have enough air quality...
[18:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:38] <exec> 08└─To avoid censorship, they tried to make Cthulhu friendlier-looking, rounded his face and gave it a gentle smile and colorful skin
[18:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:40] <exec> 08└─and then the SJW's in this country follow. We're just about in the same situation here.
[18:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:42] <exec> 08└─I am wondering what possible confusion of ideas could lead someone to state that nuclear issues in Godzilla are "subtext".
[18:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:44] <exec> 08└─Chinese corruption > Chinese ideology: It's far more likely the Chinese print failed to pay their monthly bribe to the officials to let them do business or that a rival print wanted them out of business so they bribed an official to get the job done.
[18:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:00] <exec> 08└─You would not say that if you ever had to debug CDC7600 assembler!
[18:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:02] <exec> 08└─So you leave your guns to be flooded in your home?
[18:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:04] <exec> 08└─Everyone except the submitter (DannyB) and martyb, apparently.
[18:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 2717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:21] <exec> 08└─I followed SCO daily for, well, to this very day actually. (Status: nothing going on except rotting corpse waiting on next move from appeals court which is expected within one quarter of a galactic rotation.) While SCO did some damage to the credibility of Linux in the early days, that didn't last l...
[18:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:22] <exec> 08└─The real question is, why would I use Oracle's cloud services when I can use AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, or even a dingy 486 with a 2400 baud modem in a mouldy basement?
[18:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:39] <exec> 08└─It's more a reflection of the fact that we've collectively allowed a bunch of rich kleptocrats to steal away any real humanity for a large part of the population. This is largely the result of increased work hours, decreased access to money to spend on vacations and outings with friends. Not to ment...
[18:38:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03etherscythe [937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:41] <exec> 08└─is it really so impossible for middle-class and poor people to use less tech?
[18:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:43] <exec> 08└─It's also good to vote for people who don't take away school lunches for four year olds. Just thinking of GWB.
[18:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:45] <exec> 08└─Lol no Stop Trying to Have Sex with Your Professional Cuddler [vice.com] Forget Free Hugs. Now You Can Make $80 to $100 an Hour as a Professional Cuddler [inc.com] The Men Who Pay to Be Cuddled [vice.com] The Therapists Whose Side Gig Is Professional Cuddling [vice.com]
[18:40:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stormwyrm [717] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 355 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:13] <exec> 08└─When I first ran across his posts here I thought he was crazy, as he seemed to oscillate between deeply insightful and insanely off-topic, and I was saddened to learn later on that it was rather literally true. Even sadder now because even in the times he didn't contribute good insights, he could us...
[18:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:11] <exec> 08└─I know I can't fill the void he left. Probably no group of us could either.
[18:41:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedIsNotGreen [2191] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:13] <exec> 08└─Though we never spoke directly, I'll miss you.
[18:41:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:15] <exec> 08└─I wish I had fucking put two and two together on this. No, there's probably nothing I could've done or said, but the homelessness, the cries for help about finding work and a home (a place in the world)...I should've had a little more empathy. So fucking regrettable. Everyone is an individual, but f...
[18:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 2389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:34] <exec> 08└─I think Google has a good chance of doing it, and Uber would have to respond if Waymo fares ended up being something like 20-50% of what Uber/taxi fares are. The response could cause Uber to completely unravel, run over more pedestrians, etc. Waymo Orders Thousands More Chrysler Pacifica Minivans fo...
[18:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:09] <exec> 08└─I'm in the camp that the purpose of police is to stop and punish crimes. Prevention should be left to those that understand that aspect (community leaders, NGOs, educators). The police have too much power to be granted that kind of access.
[18:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:39] <exec> 08└─compacting tokamacs is probably just a scam to get engineers to think how best to remove the heat from inside to the outside to make steam and drive a windmill in a box. once they got a compact design they'll throw away the fusion part and throw the new and improved heat removel device into the next...
[18:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Wants to Explore Neptune’s Moon Triton—Solar System’s Coldest Object May Have Ocean Life - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:08] <exec> 08└─Hmm...urgent calls to send craft...Trident [wikipedia.org] program...alien life...this is some quality conspiracy stuff, man!
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[19:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:35] <exec> 08└─That's the human beings who make art. Their budgets are rarely affected by the greedy fucks this law benefits getting a slightly longer tail on sales.
[19:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:36] <exec> 08└─Gotta defeat the censorship! Help us make the ISP obsolete! They only serve the tyrant
[19:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:38] <exec> 08└─A "link tax free" http header (and meta element) and a GPML (General Public Meme License) that may be retroactively applied to existing content. Any articles without the link tax free header should not ever be linked anywhere. A GPML could be retroactively applied by major rights holders without fur...
[19:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:57] <exec> 08└─You're living in New Zealand?
[19:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:59] <exec> 08└─My exposure to Godzilla is limited to some old school badly dubbed stuff a long time ago. Based on your reply, I'm guessing they made this theme more explicit in later revisions?
[19:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:01] <exec> 08└─Ha, no, in the USA, we leave the censorhip to *private entities*, like Amazon, Paypal, the credit card companies, and the Southern Poverty Law Center!
[19:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:03] <exec> 08└─Censorship is Obscene. Therefore it should be censored.
[19:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:05] <exec> 08└─In that case wouldn't the Chinese government be indiscriminate in what materials it decided to burn?
[19:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:08] <exec> 08└─They should probably announce what their beef with it was, otherwise the conspiracy theories are going to scare off their business.
[19:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:10] <exec> 08└─In the US nobody will ever be able to trumple on your rights and free speech.
[19:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:12] <exec> 08└─But burning? That's a symbolic action.
[19:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:14] <exec> 08└─"If there were any silver lining to this unfortunate state of affairs it would be the notoriety this book will now receive as a result." I see the Streisand effect is in full force. Those who attempt to censor seem to never learn from this.
[19:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:33] <exec> 08└─The 2nd amendment types call that "lost in a boating accident".
[19:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:35] <exec> 08└─A newer SN article leads me to believe China is in need of flame throwers right now.
[19:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:37] <exec> 08└─Yep. That may be the case.
[19:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:39] <exec> 08└─Exactly. They picked zombies in the (probably overly optimistic) hope that if people see or hear anything about the simulated preparedness exercises they won't think it's real and start a panic.
[19:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:58] <exec> 08└─Oracle seems to get as much love as Tobacco, Big Pharma and those behind the Flint MI water catastrophe.
[19:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03einar [494] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:59] <exec> 08└─Learning about any change in the oracle cloud strategy would actually be really important. Where I work, it feels as if oracle is trying to drag their customers with force into their cloud. Products we use in our systems are slowly becoming cloud offerings. Cloud offerings only available in the orac...
[19:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:20] <exec> 08└─Forget email, when have rich people ever answered their snail email? That's what the hot secretary is for.
[19:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:22] <exec> 08└─Apparently, professional cuddling is a thing now. As pointed out by takyon in a post below.
[19:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:24] <exec> 08└─They're job creators! I'm surprised I ran across this just last night [youtube.com].
[19:40:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:02] <exec> 08└─That's a long explanation that doesn't answer my question. I'm sort of feeling put off by Librem's marketing-ese. Anyway, is lockdown mode a physical disconnection or a software signal based on the position of three switches? If it is just a software signal based on three switches being set to off:...
[19:41:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 313 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:26] <exec> 08└─Yup, saw that back when he first posted it. I'll probably be the one gathering it all up but I won't have time to do much of anything with it beyond that for a while. I'll post a story about it when it's all squared away and if any of you lot see something you'd like to maintain and keep developing,...
[19:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:55] <exec> 08└─Collecting pictures of naked children in published photography books by "renowned" photographers (Sally Mann, Jock Sturges) at Amazon is okay. Collecting pictures of naked children over the internet taken by (ahem) "interested amateurs" is not okay. Yeah, that seems inconsistent to me, too. *shrug*
[19:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:57] <exec> 08└─He asks that his body be dumped in somebody's driveway in Hawaii. WTF. He means it I think. He did stream his life, and he automated lots of stuff, which is why I would expect him to have code running as he died. What that code would do I don't know, but posting photos or video is the obvious. Somet...
[19:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:59] <exec> 08└─MDC would not have been able to get disability. Thanks to various laws cracking down on disability, it is very hard to get it for the conditions that I am aware of his having. Short of a crooked P.C.P., diagnosing doctor or repeated holds, mental conditions like his are very difficult to get disabil...
[19:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:01] <exec> 08└─And it's stuff like this that makes me think that universal health care and universal basic income would save lives. I didn't always agree with MDC, but I never wanted this kind of end to his story, and I have to think that getting the pills he needed to control his illnesses would have made the dif...
[19:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:21] <exec> 08└─Somehow, I think $0.35 per mile is optimistic, considering real-life maintenance, wasted miles going between fares, and just the silly fact that people putting down actual billions to buy those assets rarely have the patience to wait 5 years to see a tiny ROI. They'll charge a buck or two, probably...
[19:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:23] <exec> 08└─Not competing on price? Tough sell for a service that you have to download a new app for, and is newfangled driverless. I'll give you $0.75/mile, which would still be a substantial improvement in many cases. Where it could really matter are cities where surge pricing multiplies the cost of your trip...
[19:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:06] <exec> 08└─Obviously, it wasn't those suffering from Ebola that burnt the hospitals. They may get it later, but for now it was a military tactic.
[19:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:08] <exec> 08└─“In light of these two violent incidents, we have no choice but to suspend our activities until further notice. "
[19:43:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 974 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:50] <exec> 08└─Seems like all these systems are _re_active in nature. Don't _stop_ travesties from occuring, don't work to better society and make it so these things don't happen. Instead, _when_ these things happen, and they're now part of the plan, make real good sure you can catch the fell'er who done did it! T...
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[20:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:41] <exec> 08└─I personally will do my best to avoid any service, that complies with this shit, be that an EU or non-EU company.
[20:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:43] <exec> 08└─Or should i say EU hostage?
[20:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:45] <exec> 08└─Boon for U.S. journalism, all the brits will view our sites instead! I think Europe will probably reconsider it after they see the result.
[20:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:47] <exec> 08└─They probably have assets in the EU that they can't afford to lose. That problem can be corrected in some cases.
[20:37:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:49] <exec> 08└─that may be true in the short term - but I'll wager that there are some very smart folks writing a pile of $SCRIPTS to basically isolate country by country. Having said that, imagine having to get your news (i.e. $MEDIA) from a torrent or TOR? The idiots in govt don't understand technology. They do...
[20:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:52] <exec> 08└─My decision to block Europe from my few websites when the GDPR landed last year was the correct correct call. Goodbye, Europe.
[20:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheFool [7105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:54] <exec> 08└─I think it's more likely that the brits end up with a hosting boom, honestly. They shouldn't be paying link tax either if they go through with Brexit.
[20:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:56] <exec> 08└─What changes, if any, will this cause where you work?
[20:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:24] <exec> 08└─Obligatory Free Speech Explanation https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com] You have a leg to stand on, when the government is the one doing it. As was the case here, the Chinese Government officials didn't like it, so they burned it. Thankfully, they were reimbursed, but that just says the printer wants t...
[20:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:25] <exec> 08└─The Chinese government seems to have a policy regarding allowing printing plants to crank out material the government finds objectionable even if is not going to be sold in China. This article [techdirt.com] sheds some light on this practice.
[20:38:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:27] <exec> 08└─More news at 11.
[20:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:29] <exec> 08└─They could even do a sequel where a Pooh-bear fights a giant squid.
[20:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:32] <exec> 08└─Concurred. Not to claim that there is no corruption in PRC, but it is well known how far they will go to censor dissent from their ideology. Hence the fact that there were state censors reviewing the books being printed in the first place. That said, the video of the guy also made it clear he was ve...
[20:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:34] <exec> 08└─No he's in Russia
[20:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:57] <exec> 08└─i want to delicately clean the blood from under her nails while she chews on my brain
[20:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:58] <exec> 08└─“It was a pleasure to burn.”
[20:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:20] <exec> 08└─Oracle tends to use lawyers to increase profit... whether to sue customers who are unwittingly out of compliance with an existing customer contract, or Google who had an agreement to use Java technologies in Android before Oracle bought Sun and later sued over the issue. People tend to think poorly...
[20:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:21] <exec> 08└─Oracle tends to do anything, no matter how despicable, to increase profit. Oracle's lawsuit over Android is one of my favorite things to dislike Oracle for. I'm sure other people dislike Oracle for other reasons. Maybe I wasn't clear and should have indicated that Oracle deserves the love it gets, s...
[20:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:45] <exec> 08└─Kids need to 'experience' things LIVE: they need to fall down and hurt themselves, as in fall off the monkey bars and maybe break an arm. They then learn there are limitations to what they can do and can't do, etc.
[20:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:47] <exec> 08└─Well, you can use one of the percentages [wikipedia.org] as a good starting point.
[20:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:49] <exec> 08└─Sweet gigs if you can get it, and yes, some people do get paid to eat food and make various noises on camera, possibly to a small private audience. At $80/hour, you could probably scrape by cuddling just 3 hours a week. Anything over that can start adding luxuries to your life. And you could certain...
[20:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:51] <exec> 08└─Having real physical interaction in a classroom and real back-and-forth contact with a teacher is still useful for education.
[20:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:53] <exec> 08└─The real winners will figure out how to marketize, equitize and invest in a physical contacts exchange. Hell, I'm willing to put a little money into hey wait a sec ... Create market for legal physical contact Equitize market Create indexes Create first index fund, leveraging financial marketing of s...
[20:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:55] <exec> 08└─That's a lovely bunch of wishes, put those in one hand.... Core curriculum, standardized tests, etc. all BEG to be unified into a single server of all educational material and put on repeat-play for the 180 days of the year that the schools are legally obligated to keep your kids off the streets for...
[20:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 1356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:15] <exec> 08└─When I was an engineer for the London Underground Railway, I did propose something like that; they are called articulated trains. There are disadvantages however :- (1) The distance between the trucks needs to be the same as conventional because of tunnel clearance on curves*, and as the car bodies...
[20:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:16] <exec> 08└─They must be a unique case, a PhD study in psychology for someone?
[20:40:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:36] <exec> 08└─That's a long explanation that doesn't answer my question. I'm sort of feeling put off by Librem's marketing-ese. Anyway, is lockdown mode a physical disconnection or a software signal based on the position of three switches?
[20:41:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sulla [5173] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 192 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:29] <exec> 08└─"I hate MDC because my friend is sexually interested in children" MDC was fightin' the good fight to protect those who could not protect themselves, even when he could not protect himself.
[20:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:33] <exec> 08└─"Life will be a very great deal less weird without you!"
[20:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:35] <exec> 08└─Elsewhere he talks about that guy being a doctor and him wanting that guy to perform the autopsy and then to be cremated afterwards. Or at least that was my understanding.
[20:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:37] <exec> 08└─Maybe I missed it. But did anyone actually confirm his passing? In his last posting he said that his only hope is the paramedics getting to him in time, did he call the paramedics or was this just a "if someone cares they will call for me"? I might be understanding what he said incorrectly.
[20:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:39] <exec> 08└─Oh blimey. R.I.P. MDC. I felt so sorry for him, when he wrote that he was homeless and was sick.
[20:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Massive Ebola Outbreak Continues to Rage; Case Count Surpasses 1,000 - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:46] <exec> 08└─Also: "The army and the police caught one of the attackers," Kanyamanda said, saying he was a member of the Mai-Mai rebel group.
[20:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06School Security System to Give Police Access to Camera Feeds - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:40] <exec> 08└─But the false desire to "do something" even if it wouldn't have helped is rampant.
[20:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Education and Science Giant Elsevier Left Users' Passwords Exposed Online - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:51] <exec> 08└─My thoughts exactly. But sheesh, I've spent god knows how many hours trying to find other copies of stuff that they've locked out of view by looking elsewhere on the net when all I had to do was look for the users&passwords on their servers. Dammit.
[20:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:13] <exec> 08└─It's really nothing to be concerned about.
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[21:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:25] <exec> 08└─Now people who don't hang out on this site can have sex without worrying about paternity suits. Bad news for gold-digging women.
[21:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:27] <exec> 08└─Dr. Wang. Such a suitable name.
[21:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:29] <exec> 08└─Now I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger, But she ain't hanging with no non-placebo 11-beta-MNTDC clinical trials subjects ...
[21:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:31] <exec> 08└─So, this could all still be for naught, if the efficacy is something around 50% or even 75% to 80%. It could be very useful, but I'll hold off judgement until it's demonstrably as good as or better than birth control pills for women.
[21:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:33] <exec> 08└─Multiple (2+) forms of birth control are recommended, although you can do much better than 80%.
[21:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:36] <exec> 08└─From TFA Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans
[21:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:38] <exec> 08└─> Multiple (2+) forms of birth control are recommended 1. Take the male contraceptive 2. Take the morning after pill Bu . . . bu . . . but . . . I took the emergency contraceptive, aka the morning after pill, and she still got pregnant anyway!
[21:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:57] <exec> 08└─Anonymous Euro-Politicians that reconsider and fix their previous mistakes? Are you new to this planet? That sort of thing just never happen.
[21:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:59] <exec> 08└─USC? I heard was quite a scandal with those guys. Something about desperate Bedford wives and their sprouts...
[21:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:01] <exec> 08└─Probably not, they will still want some kind of trade deal etc with Europe and just like other European countries that are not also EU-members tend to follow a lot of the rules anyway just so there won't be any trade issues. They are super-bitchy about that down in Brussels. If that was to be the ca...
[21:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:03] <exec> 08└─IIRC, parts of Europe already tried this by ruling that search engines had to pay news agencies to link to them. News agencies cheered. Google and friends decided they didn't want to pay so they deleted them from their indices. The news agencies then moaned and whined bitterly that nobody was visiti...
[21:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:05] <exec> 08└─What exactly does this block of your accomplish? Are you afraid of being punished by the EU, trying to teach EU citizens a lesson, or something else?
[21:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:08] <exec> 08└─GDPR was a good thing.
[21:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:10] <exec> 08└─We only operate in North America, and we blocked Europeans already when the GDPR came into effect. This isn't even to say that I think GDPR is a bad idea, there was just no reason to allow Europeans to visit the website any more since they can't really do anything with it anyway. The real question i...
[21:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:12] <exec> 08└─EU directives are "binding" in that the member nations need to make laws to "match them". But only the national laws will be actual real laws with penalties and enforcement. Their wording and application will make all the difference. Yet this is a sad day. Having said that I do hope that go-ogle and...
[21:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:14] <exec> 08└─Anonymous Euro-Politicians that reconsider and fix their previous mistakes? Are you new to this planet? That sort of thing just never happen. It did with software patents back in the early naughts. Poland saved the day by casting the deciding vote to ixnay software patents in the EU, very late in th...
[21:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:49] <exec> 08└─It's "PRESIDENT Trumple". Show more respect to YOUR REGULARLY ELECTED President WHOSE TIES TO RUSSIA WERE FAKE NEWS, you soft bag of meat.
[21:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:50] <exec> 08└─Sure, sure, but then, qui censet ipsos censores?
[21:38:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:53] <exec> 08└─In the US nobody will ever be able to trumple on your rights and free speech.
[21:38:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:55] <exec> 08└─You mean Pooh-Bear fights The Great Pumpkin over trade ... and they both lose.
[21:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:57] <exec> 08└─The Streisand effect does work in countries where the one trying to suppress the coverage is in control of the heavily censored media. Or, I doubt there's any coverage of this in the Chinese press.
[21:38:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:59] <exec> 08└─Or they realize what happens to anything produced that doesn't pass QA / isn't supposed to be sold. (It gets sold out the back door ...)
[21:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:02] <exec> 08└─Unlike the British government, which has gone to enormous lengths to have no policies at all, but if it had one, it would probably have to burn it.
[21:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:27] <exec> 08└─Sense of humour? How dare you sir!? I find that highly offensive. There is no "Zombie Apocalypse" at all. When those of us who live an undead lifestyle visit, you should do the sensible thing and sit quietly outside with your head exposed. These CDC people are just making things so difficult with...
[21:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:28] <exec> 08└─Thank you. The only +1 Insightful comment in the whole thread. Your dead will be swift and painless.
[21:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:30] <exec> 08└─And here I thought zombies were slow and painful...
[21:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:53] <exec> 08└─For good reason, from what I understand. The huge multi-national I work for had Oracle's hooks deep into it, but when they demanded several hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra license fees last year the powers that be decided to give them the flick. I'm sure that came as a huge surprise to L...
[21:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:25] <exec> 08└─I would never send my kids to a tech free school, that is the phrase that drove my luddites comment. I think the blocks and time away from screens is critical, but the kids can't do robotics, electronics or programming projects in a tech free environment. With those kind of resources being thrown at...
[21:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:26] <exec> 08└─But if you're rich, you take real classes, not Khan academy.
[21:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:28] <exec> 08└─Oh, the SRA cards. My teacher always wanted me to do those, and I kept refusing. Mostly because she was pushing me to it. I always thought it stood for Supplemental Reading Assignment, but it apparently is https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06State Officials Bored by The Boring Company - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:50] <exec> 08└─Yet the London Underground carries nearly 1.4bn passengers a year, and has been in operation - sometimes with the exact same tunnels - for over a hundred years. I don't claim the LU is anywhere near perfection, but I think the OP's point is right - you could do an awful lot more with such tunnels th...
[21:41:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:23] <exec> 08└─The hardware support is pretty limited too: There is no USB HID driver, so a USB keyboard or mouse will not work. There is a PS/2 driver, which works with the keyboards and touchpads in many laptops.
[21:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:13] <exec> 08└─As an autistic nerd, I now see the sign from his more recent comments here, but only in hindsight. His Caltech jive got on my nerve, but now I see that was a sign of his isolation and alienation. Editors: Tell us of his funeral, if you can, so that I can at least send some flowers.
[21:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:14] <exec> 08└─He fell thru the cracks... if he was a little crazier he'd have been taken care of like a coma patient, or a little more connected to reality and he'd have been able to fill out his paperwork keeping medicare and his mind drugs.
[21:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:47] <exec> 08└─Which one will be practical first?: 1. Flying cars 2. Fusion 3. Robots that do the laundry and dishes unattended 4. Lunar vacations
[21:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Speeding the Development of Fusion Power to Create Unlimited Energy on Earth - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:49] <exec> 08└─Actually, I was saying 7,700 million years, not 7,700 years. Age of Universe: ~12,300 million years Age of the Sun: ~4,600 million years. You do the math. I already did.
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[22:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:35] <exec> 08└─The pill for women has some side effects (weight gain, libido reduction, moodiness, headaches...) A male pill might be a good thing. A few of the participants reported fatigue, headaches, and acne during the experiment.
[22:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:37] <exec> 08└─Condom + contraceptive though. Still, where is this [soylentnews.org]?
[22:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:39] <exec> 08└─I won't be letting satan into my sperm.
[22:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:41] <exec> 08└─Paradox of choice; already too many options out there. No barrier for STDs so useless for casual dating sex, girl has to trust the guy way too much for casual sex anyway. For mostly monogamous couples there's already so many options I'm struggling to think of the situation. When all else fails is a...
[22:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:44] <exec> 08└─She said she felt she was guided into this field.
[22:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:46] <exec> 08└─I guess that takes me back to wondering which will come first. Male contraceptive. Or putting humans on Mars.
[22:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:48] <exec> 08└─The side effects might include permanent emasculation after using the pill for a period of time, exactly what the khazar jewish rats designed it for. They paid money so non-jewish men can be emasculated and unable to have children, or these effect appearing in their children if and when they do have...
[22:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:50] <exec> 08└─Point I was gonna make : which girl is going to trust a guy that swears he took the pill, when it's his pleasure but her risk ? Also, after getting snipped, men still output swimmers for almost two months. That's a long time ... trust me. Also : > will decrease sperm production while preserving libi...
[22:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 1414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:53] <exec> 08└─There are reasons why it's easier for a female pill. Females have a cycle based hormonal balance and some of the states of this cycle are non fertile. A lot of the side effects are actually due to getting off of the pill during placebo week. Something totally unnecessary. Actually, staying on the pi...
[22:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:55] <exec> 08└─I think you missed the point. If they found out it was NOT safe, how many people would they be able to get to volunteer to find out if it was effective? This trial was with ~40 people. From what I can tell, there were no adverse reactions so severe to preclude going into further testing. And that wa...
[22:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:57] <exec> 08└─There is a dangerous time, when you have 1 or 2 kids with her, maybe even 3. She might get the idea to run off, thinking she will get child support (probably correct) and a better man (probably wrong, now that she isn't pristine). Marriages fall apart partly because women remember their youthful day...
[22:38:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:27] <exec> 08└─I didn't give a single fuck about the GDPR, because I live in the land of the free. It was a good call.
[22:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:28] <exec> 08└─Of course, that was before fascism started infecting places like Poland, Hungary, Italy, etc., so it's anyone's guess as to whether or not that can be repeated (and the corporate cabal pushing this has probably learned from that experience, or their lobbyists have).
[22:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:30] <exec> 08└─This did happen... https://www.zdnet.com [zdnet.com] While the linked article was dated right before the law took effect, all the Spainish newspapers cried afterword because the traffic on their websi...
[22:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:33] <exec> 08└─This isn't even to say that I think GDPR is a bad idea,
[22:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:15] <exec> 08└─It doesn't have to be in the press for the Chinese people to learn of it in the 21st century. And yes, even with the great firewall.
[22:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:17] <exec> 08└─They are gradually tightening their grip on Hong Kong. At least according to something I watched recently on Netflix. (world's busiest cities)
[22:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:19] <exec> 08└─They don't have to lawyer you into oblivion. They can simply remove your video from YouTube, your app from iTunes, your product from Amazon, etc. It's about time Apple was on the wrong end of a patent lawsuit that bites. Pinch to Zoom. And Bouncy Scrolling. Apple wanted 100% of retail price of phone...
[22:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:21] <exec> 08└─I am left wondering how Cthulhu rates on the Trump Book Flammability Index?
[22:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:24] <exec> 08└─233C
[22:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PSA: the CDC Website on Zombie Preparedness - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:51] <exec> 08└─Are you calling Obama "ebola" ?
[22:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:15] <exec> 08└─Not only that, they're billing everyone on every product by per physical CPU cost. even Java is now licensed that way. if you run on 1 VM with 2 virtual cores, you get billed for the 100 physical cores underlying the VM farm. Either pay them shit loads of licensing cost or move you apps into their c...
[22:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:50] <exec> 08└─Yes They are called "pimps"
[22:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:34] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/03/06/1449226 [soylentnews.org]
[22:41:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:35] <exec> 08└─There is too much junk there: "powering off ...." this clearly suggests shutdown on signal, ie, software switch. "Cut power" -- that sounds more like a physical disconnection but it may not be. The marketing-ese is getting in the way of clarity and I don't actually know if what they are talking abou...
[22:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:41:50] <exec> 08└─I wondered, so I downloaded the live disc and booted into it on a Dell laptop I had available. It is a 51 MB download so I was not expecting a lot, which is what I got. It runs reasonably well, but with no indication as to whether I have a network connection, or how to set one up. It comes with a...
[22:42:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 226 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:16] <exec> 08└─https://www.facebook.com/repeatiblehairstyle/posts/2224008081183756 [facebook.com] https://www.facebook.com [facebook.com] https://www.facebook.com [facebook.com]
[22:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:42] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry things had to end like that, Mike. I'll miss you.
[22:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:43] <exec> 08└─Many years ago I posted about my depression on kuro5hin and MDC was one of the few who took it seriously and gave good advice. After kuro5hin went to hell I lost track of him until recently when I saw that he posted here. May he rest in peace.
[22:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 1410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:46] <exec> 08└─Yep, yours is the best post I want to stick a reply on, that was my feeling exactly. Never met MDC, never knew him, interacted with him here through a handful of comments and replies, read far more of his comments and posts, often knowing the user before even looking at the user ID. To me he was jus...
[22:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:48] <exec> 08└─Second.
[22:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eating Mushrooms May Reduce the Risk of Cognitive Decline - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:11] <exec> 08└─Tastes more like snails mixed with dirt minus the sand with earthworm thrown in for flavor Don't ask me how I know this.
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[23:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tizan [3245] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purdue Pharma to Pay $270 Million Settlement to Oklahoma - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:29] <exec> 08└─They paid family members $4bn ...Guess how much profit they made...this is not even causing a dent 48000 overdose in 2017 https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[23:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:56] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHOpWD5ESso [youtube.com]
[23:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:57] <exec> 08└─The pill for women has some side effects (weight gain, libido reduction, moodiness, headaches...)
[23:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:00] <exec> 08└─All-natural birth control, 100% free, always on hand.
[23:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:02] <exec> 08└─Think 70's, us kids didn't really know what was involved at the time They made a new birth control for guys! Yeah? Yeah, it changes your blood type. / my how technology has changed since then // then again, my younger mistakes would have been 18 by the time DNA came around /// Me? I kept in touch wi...
[23:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:04] <exec> 08└─Single guys in a committed relationship that may lead to marriage look like the target market. Avoiding or significantly reducing the risk of birth control sabotage or mistake babies is worth lots. (theoretically used as male & female pills both)
[23:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Potential Male Birth Control Pill Has Just Been Shown Safe in Humans for the First Time - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:06] <exec> 08└─Copy pasted from that site: C O R R U P T T H E M A L L O R R U P T T H E M A L L
[23:38:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Europe's Controversial Overhaul of Online Copyright Receives Final Approval - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:40] <exec> 08└─They’ve been looking for it for many, many years. To protect the intellectual property and creative genius of America’s -- and the World's -- incredible movie makers, TV studios and musicians. "Streaming" has made our majestic culture more accessible than ever, yet laws have not kept up with the...
[23:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chinese Government Burns "Call of Cthulhu" Supplement - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:30] <exec> 08└─Have your stuff printed in the US - if you can afford it. Deal with China at your own risk and according to what money you're willing to fork off.
[23:40:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03einar [494] 02 - 06Oracle Swings Axe on Cloud Infrastructure Corps Amid Possible Bloodbath at Big Red - 723 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:40:18] <exec> 08└─Learning about any change in the oracle cloud strategy would actually be really important. Where I work, it feels as if oracle is trying to drag their customers with force into their cloud. Products we use in our systems are slowly becoming cloud offerings. Cloud offerings only available in the orac...
[23:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lockdown Mode on the Librem 5: Beyond Hardware Kill Switches - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:41:42] <exec> 08└─No, it really isn't marketing-ese. It is very clear they are referring to a hardware switch if you read it.
[23:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Redox OS 0.5 Released - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:41:58] <exec> 08└─C library written in Rust
[23:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:53] <exec> 08└─I say it like that that's a bad thing.
[23:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Michael David Crawford Passes Away - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:54] <exec> 08└─It's a tragedy that people like our very own MDC find their lives shortened so. Many fine tributes have already been left here, but MDC was a good guy, and a courageous fighter. Despite the obstacles life put in his way, his human spirit shone through.
[23:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Preparing to Acquire Middle Eastern Rival Careem for $3.1 Billion - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:16] <exec> 08└─I think he's hiding under the name Roger Murdock now.
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