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[00:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:15] <exec> 08└─They Call Me Nobody [youtube.com]
[00:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:16] <exec> 08└─If you have 16tb on a drive, and you back it up, and the drive dies, then you don't lose any data. Same goes for a 160tb drive. Do not underestimate the ability of SoylentNews users to collect porn.
[00:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:18] <exec> 08└─I get to race such drives and see how long they take to complete a "cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda"
[00:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 1175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:20] <exec> 08└─You could say the same thing about 1GB of data 20 years ago. It's all about price and performance. 20 years ago, how long would 1GB have taken to transfer? a while.. not so bad. Right now, how long does 1TB take to transfer? a while.. not so bad. 20 years from now, how long will 1PB take to transfer...
[00:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:23] <exec> 08└─You know, I used to do that. Then I found out how much faster /dev/null's write speed is and never looked back.
[00:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:25] <exec> 08└─If you're relying on a non-backed-up drive to never fail in a big commercial environment, you have no business making tech decisions in the first place. If you're not, you aren't going to lose any data if it fails and you're going to save tons on power bills by going with the (almost) largest drives...
[00:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:27] <exec> 08└─but in a drive failure of a large drive means a lot of data is going to be lost
[00:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:35] <exec> 08└─This thing won't sell well if it doesn't have the amenities that people have come to expect from Japanese vehicles. You need lots of cup holders and an AV system for viewing tentacle oporn.
[00:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:37] <exec> 08└─Sudden acceleration will launch it right off to Mars. Ohhh.... that's clever.
[00:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:58] <exec> 08└─Oh My God! We need a wall...a Space Wall. Guess that's what the extra $5B the White House has thrown into the new budget proposal is for.
[00:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:59] <exec> 08└─Some of government spending is valuable. Some of it is useless. Your error was concluding it was all useless. The Space Force is intentionally useless: There's neither a known threat of space aliens, nor a known threat of enemy space forces.
[00:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:02] <exec> 08└─Some of government spending is valuable. Some of it is useless.
[00:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03SpockLogic [2762] (Score: 2) 02 - 06For Pi Day, Calculate Pi Yourself Using Two Colliding Balls - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:19] <exec> 08└─And none can compare to the Key Lime I consumed to celebrate the day.
[00:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:34] <exec> 08└─Would you demand that an open, real-time map of all law enforcement officer locations be banned/blocked/eradicated? (That's something that could be done by combining data from many public* street-facing webcams.) *Publicly accessible or homeowners participating in such a project.
[00:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:37] <exec> 08└─Sure, if you're hosting everything on one box with one webserver to do the authing. Using them on our network is complicated as nine kinds of fuck though.
[00:40:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Boeing 737 Max Aircraft Grounded in the U.S. and Dozens of Other Countries - 123 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:40:26] <exec> 08└─I would think the Russians could have he IP address of AF1 just by asking the right person and stroking their delicate ego.
[00:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing 737 Max Aircraft Grounded in the U.S. and Dozens of Other Countries - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:40:40] <exec> 08└─Boeing is hurting bad right now... Lockheed got the contract for the next military airplane, SpaceX is murdering them in the rocket launch business, they almost lost the airtanker bid to BAE for bribery, Airbus is nipping at their heels for passenger jets, China really wants to start making their ow...
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[01:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03NateMich [6662] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:22] <exec> 08└─You may not "lose" the data, but the real issue they are probably talking about is that any given machine is out of service until the data is put back. Of course, a better system is one where these drives are in an array, and when one fails you just change it out and keep going. No downtime required...
[01:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:24] <exec> 08└─I didn't notice a difference in real life read/write times between a usb 3.0 external SSD and a NVMe m.2 SSD. Did I do something wrong?
[01:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:26] <exec> 08└─Is there any commercial application where a drive would not be part of an array? Maybe as an offline backup I suppose.
[01:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:28] <exec> 08└─you can drive the chance of data loss down exponentially if you can make your backups failing independent events.
[01:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:30] <exec> 08└─This is all assuming that rebuild failures aren't a thing, and that the odds of them don't increase astronomically as the capacity of your drives increases.
[01:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:33] <exec> 08└─Sure I want one. But I assume "nobody" wants it due to the price. I have not seen any 16TB drives for sale yet but last I looked the 12TB and 14TB drives were about $700 each or thereabout. Totally not worth it for any or many home systems.
[01:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:35] <exec> 08└─Small businesses. Anyone who moves enough cash to afford someone who knows how to set up an office IT structure has no excuse for not doing so though.
[01:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:37] <exec> 08└─There are viable redundancies to eliminate most any worries available for every level of complexity you can name. Not using them is bloody stupid.
[01:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:39] <exec> 08└─Like I said, if it's important data that's only on one drive, you failed right from the start. RAID and two sets of backups should be the bare minimum for most anything.
[01:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:41] <exec> 08└─There are viable redundancies to eliminate most any worries available for every level of complexity you can name. Not using them is bloody stupid.
[01:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:44] <exec> 08└─The alternative to making the failures of your backups as independent as possible isn't making the failures predictable, it's making sure your backups all fail at the same time. You trade off minimizing the risk of data loss in favour of maximizing the chance that either all your backups work or non...
[01:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:46] <exec> 08└─I'd be very interested in an SSD with 16 TB, provided that, per unit, it doesn't cost more than several decently-configured desktop PCs. These high-end, huge-capacity SSDs tend to have not-so-little gotchas like that. If it's cheap enough I can mitigate potential data loss through multiple redundanc...
[01:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:48] <exec> 08└─But I assume "nobody" wants it due to the price.
[01:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:51] <exec> 08└─No, because that is simply information about their location, not that same information paired with an accusation. Much like gun control, that will be an urban vs rural issue, as cops WILL be getting targeted by gangs for initiation purposes when such an app comes online. However, information alone i...
[01:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Comet Lake Could Boost Mainstream Core Count to 10 to Compete with AMD's Ryzen 3000-Series - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:08] <exec> 08└─What goes around, comes around...
[01:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:56] <exec> 08└─You're not understanding how much of a mess our setup is. If you put all the hostnames that just beryllium uses in one cert, you have to make more than one webserver with many different vhosts on them serve the right response for each and every vhost (certbot trying to do this automatically breaks h...
[01:37:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Combatting Vaccine Misinformation on Facebook - 751 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:33] <exec> 08└─Your other fault: These are not ideas that one "doesn't like". These are ideas which are patent nonsense that any rational thinking person will not accept. I'm very surprised Danny didn't add Holocaust Denial into the mix. No, I don't have to give them "equal time" or acknowledge that someone who be...
[01:41:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Boeing 737 Max Aircraft Grounded in the U.S. and Dozens of Other Countries - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:00] <exec> 08└─It's not a conspiracy, but Boeing is pretty much the US' flag manufacturer for aircraft, and you wouldn't expect the government to cast doubt on their products, nor disrupt the operations of US companies using that hardware, unless it really wasn't politically acceptable anymore. Oh, and as someone...
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[02:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:40] <exec> 08└─Now you point that out I've realised you're right of course. In fact I have turned down a job setting up a server for a small business because it very quickly became clear that they didn't want to spend enough to do it properly. I probably wouldn't have been paid enough to make it worth my while e...
[02:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:42] <exec> 08└─I think we've reached the point ($100) where we would rather have a 1 TB SSD than any HDD in a laptop. Of course, it helps that my primary laptop has a 500 GB HDD. Desktops should have 1+ TB SSD and big HDD only as secondary and/or external storage. Maybe you can fill up a 1 TB SSD with applications...
[02:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:44] <exec> 08└─Another dog-slow and short-lived QLC idiot toy? If a "storage device" needs constantly be backed up onto another reliable one, let's call the second one "storage" and the first "cache", and stop reinventing the square wheel.
[02:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:46] <exec> 08└─Maybe you can fill up a 1 TB SSD with applications alone, but it would take some doing.
[02:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:48] <exec> 08└─Yes, and if you actually care about data integrity in RAID and in those backups, you probably want ECC RAM and a filesystem that can detect and correct random errors and bitrot, like ZFS for example. Once we're talking about data the size of 16 TB, data degradation is likely to happen over time stat...
[02:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbruchon [4473] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:51] <exec> 08└─You're welcome. [youtube.com] Relevant bit is at 2:00-2:15, but watch it all for maximum enjoyment.
[02:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:53] <exec> 08└─The prices may only become reasonable when a smaller quantity of very dense NAND chips are used. Necessitating at least the use of 3D QLC (4 bits per cell) NAND, with its inherent/current speed, endurance, and data retention issues. Ideally, a 16 TB SSD would cost $1,600 (1 TB is $100 on sale or che...
[02:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:55] <exec> 08└─(my point: why should there be a norm on how an SSD needs to be used?)
[02:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03jbruchon [4473] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:57] <exec> 08└─The problem with really huge disks is throughput. I'd gladly have a 4PB disk, but the amount of the disk that can be moved around per minute is a major problem. Sure, incremental backup can skip most of the problem temporarily, but an initial backup or restore of 10TB of data at 100MB/sec average th...
[02:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06For Pi Day, Calculate Pi Yourself Using Two Colliding Balls - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:46] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Mine was also frozen, covered in chocolate, and on a stick. A bit gimmicky but still good -- made with real key limes, which are obviously (ahem) the key.
[02:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06British Parliment Reject Brexit Deal... Again - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:59] <exec> 08└─I've lost track of how many times US citizens are called "the enemy".
[02:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06British Parliment Reject Brexit Deal... Again - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:01] <exec> 08└─As the above shows, despite its nonsensical nature it has a surprising foothold in some areas. Let me guess, the ACs who replied are either American neo-nazis/white supremacists, or white South Africans? That's the two main areas where it's taken hold, among neo-nazis because, well, they're neo-nazi...
[02:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Elon Musk Startup Picked to Build Las Vegas 'People Mover' - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:38] <exec> 08└─Fake news, that was footage of Chinese rockets that he stole and edited as his own
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[03:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:17] <exec> 08└─Again, it’s hard to fault someone for creating an inaccessible experience if they simply haven’t learned the concept exists.
[03:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:18] <exec> 08└─Why should the web be accessible? Ask anyone who is blind, or uses a wheelchair, and they'll deliver a torrent of stories about how governments and corporations can't be bothered to do even the most basic things to help them out. Whether it's curb cuts, or bathrooms, or access to wheelchair accessi...
[03:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:20] <exec> 08└─Or that you don't want to get sued over it -- [google 'accessibility lawsuits']. Looks like Internet and IRL accessibility lawsuits have been increasing in the last couple of years.
[03:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:56] <exec> 08└─http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2016/187/Caching-with-an-SSD [linux-magazine.com] https://github.com [github.com]
[03:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:58] <exec> 08└─Yes (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250099 [newegg.com]). The USB 3.0 bus is limited to 5Gbps. Most USB SSD's are sata, adapted to USB, so at most SATA3 (6Gbps) for USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (ugh, that article). The disk posted above, PCIe 3.0 x4, is rated at 3400MB/s (27Gbps). I ha...
[03:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:00] <exec> 08└─One of the biggest data hogs is high resolution or raw video.
[03:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farkus888 [5159] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:02] <exec> 08└─The problem is raid rebuild times. There is a relationship between bus speed and size. SATA II had this problem at the end. Drives so slow but big you'd get additional failures and lose the array before a rebuild could complete. After all once one drive from a lot fails the others are likely close b...
[03:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:04] <exec> 08└─If you don't want to pick and choose which data should go where, maybe you want to use a hybrid hard drive (SSHD).
[03:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 1101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:07] <exec> 08└─When we're talking about enterprise storage, larger is not always better. Generally drives are ganged together in groups. More drives generally translates to better performance but higher cost. An array of 8 drives, for instance, may have 2 drive redundancy. Let's say that two drives fail and the co...
[03:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:09] <exec> 08└─based on the conversations I've had today, seems to be that inflection point; no-one wants to lose 16TB of data in one go
[03:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:11] <exec> 08└─Well I tried it. I put my data I wanted to read on the NVMe m.2 drive and timed it. Then I did the same from the external, it made almost no difference. Maybe for my task the actual reading of the data wasn't the bottleneck or something.
[03:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:13] <exec> 08└─the nsa backs up my data. i'm good.
[03:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:23] <exec> 08└─That's old school. It needs to have VR headset holders and integrated teledildonics.
[03:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:26] <exec> 08└─Is it just me, or would this become one of the largest rovers/vehicles that humans have ever landed on another celestial body? The Apollo Lunar Module was wider than 6 meters but only had 6.7 cubic meters of usable volume. The Curiosity rover is 2.9 m long by 2.7 m wide by 2.2 m in height. This plan...
[03:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:50] <exec> 08└─Your error was concluding it was all useless.
[03:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:51] <exec> 08└─Oh My God! We need a wall...a Space Wall. Guess that's what the extra $5B the White House has thrown into the new budget proposal is for.
[03:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:53] <exec> 08└─The year is 500bc. The not-so-friendly nation south the Mediterranean sea is rumored to be developing a new form of warfare called "navel". What do you do? Do you fund a nation-wide project to develop and build ships? Do you build a series of forts across your shore line? No. You do something much b...
[03:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:55] <exec> 08└─The United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) was a Unified Combatant Command of the United States Department of Defense, created in 1985 to coordinate the use of outer space by the United States Armed Forces.
[03:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:57] <exec> 08└─Supposedly this is negative against Trump? But actually the punic wars were what brought Rome to its peak, so that hardly tells the story you imply. A better analogy would be the US is Carthage/Phoenicians and have a secret mining base on the moon or an asteroid or wherever so can pay back debts at...
[03:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:32] <exec> 08└─I don't get the sense that the Citizen app is overrun by anti-police sentiment. But if there were such a noise, it could be enabled by any other avenue for anonymously disseminating opinions in a local area. Yik Yak [wikipedia.org] (RIP) comes to mind. Although these could be shut down for one reaso...
[03:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:34] <exec> 08└─The ethnic gang problem is getting out of hand
[03:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Comet Lake Could Boost Mainstream Core Count to 10 to Compete with AMD's Ryzen 3000-Series - 1097 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:52] <exec> 08└─I'm eager to see 8-16 cores become mainstream, but there will be cases when the core count is overkill or most cores are idling most of the time. What was great about Ryzen (the original) is that it delivered up to 8 real cores (not 4x 2 "core" modules, which led to a lawsuit), along with a huge ~52...
[03:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Comet Lake Could Boost Mainstream Core Count to 10 to Compete with AMD's Ryzen 3000-Series - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:54] <exec> 08└─keep adding cores. and vector instructions. features >> correctness.
[03:37:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snow [1601] 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 56 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:03] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your hard work on keeping this site great.
[03:37:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03martyb [76] 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 647 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:16] <exec> 08└─1) Your monitoring infrastructure should be testing all your certs anyway, so any that are due for renewal get flagged up as warnings, and that are invalidly deployed or expired get flagged up as criticals 2) You should be automating this -- at the very least have a process that generates the correc...
[03:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:43] <exec> 08└─DHS?
[03:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:44] <exec> 08└─This demonstrates the attitude of a good sys admin. https://xkcd.com [xkcd.com]
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[04:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:14] <exec> 08└─
[04:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:15] <exec> 08└─fixed
[04:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:26] <exec> 08└─even when a project has millions of dollars, getting money/time spent on hidden tags, tab order, and ensuring the.colours work in black/white/reverse is impossible when the standard help text is still being written the week before go-live.
[04:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:27] <exec> 08└─...how we could make the web live up to its promise as a truly universal medium, one that could be accessed by anyone, anywhere, regardless of ability or need.
[04:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:13] <exec> 08└─If you have 16tb on a drive, and you back it up, and the drive dies, then you don't lose any data.
[04:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:15] <exec> 08└─You're making assumptions about data use. In one of my applications, the data needs to be on faster (secondary) store than the program. (The program fits in RAM when loaded, and if that takes a few seconds, who cares. The data is accessed in random chunks repeatedly and doesn't fit in RAM.) OTOH, I...
[04:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:17] <exec> 08└─If you're talking about personal machines, restoring 500 GB to a 16 TB drive isn't any slower than restoring 500 GB to a 1 TB drive. If the 16 TB isn't too expensive it would definitely be a good option for data hoarders. If you're talking about servers, it's all in the cloud and datacenters. No one...
[04:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:19] <exec> 08└─Depends on how important the server was to their business. Or at least how important they thought it was. You can occasionally get a small business that has a genuine need for a server and knows it but either quality is somewhat rare. Most can get by just fine with like half a dozen low-end-workstat...
[04:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:22] <exec> 08└─OTOH, I still don't really trust SSDs because of random file system erases that happened in earlier years. Perhaps they've fixed that problem, but the last time I was told it was fixed a couple of other people chimed in that "No it wasn't". I understand that it's faster, but unreliability is a trade...
[04:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:24] <exec> 08└─Based on my experience, both consumer at at home and enterprise in the office, reliability picked at 250G spinning drives. Perhaps 500G were almost the same. From that point on it was all downturn.
[04:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:26] <exec> 08└─There is no properly designed situation where losing a drive of any size is a significant annoyance. If you find yourself in such a situation, you built your shit wrong. Now most people are not going to want to buy the largest drives because they're pricey as all fuck, they want something about one...
[04:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:05] <exec> 08└─where's the kaboom? ( https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] )
[04:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Comet Lake Could Boost Mainstream Core Count to 10 to Compete with AMD's Ryzen 3000-Series - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:01] <exec> 08└─One man's bug is the NSA's feature.
[04:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:53] <exec> 08└─Just out of interest, for martyb and Buzzard, how long did it take to do this and how much effort was it? I'm kinda curious. I'm sure you've discovered my deep and abiding interest in pain. At present I'm writing the definitive work on the subject. So, let's just start with what we have. What did th...
[04:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:54] <exec> 08└─Thank you for your hard work on keeping this site great.
[04:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:41] <exec> 08└─Yup, now they've got tens of millions of lines of code that's pretty awful instead of just thousands of lines of code that's pretty awful.
[04:40:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:42] <exec> 08└─I believe you will find that cost is equivalent to asking price, whereas value is equivalent to bidding price. If you ever find yourself in possession of something you consider extremely valuable and attempt to convert that value to something else, you will find that bidding price is the only one th...
[04:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:45] <exec> 08└─Anti-vaxxers are grassroots. Perhaps unhinged, under-educated unequivocal nut jobs, but they're not really propagandists - they're (mostly) too disorganized for propaganda, they're more of the gossip, rumor and conspiracy theory set. Should you listen to them as a source of factual information? Hell...
[04:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:47] <exec> 08└─If the tens of millions of lines doesn't implode under its own weight, that's actually some kind of impressive. With just a few thousand lines of code, you can do some pretty awful things that still creak by as "useable."
[04:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:49] <exec> 08└─Predicting market moves is all about predicting most people's behavior...people who buy things in the market, at least. The dataset Facebook streams and collects is really valuable when it comes to predicting people's behavior.
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[05:34:31] <exec> 08└─Ahh...as Wyatt (Peter Fonda's character in "Easy Rider" says to Billy (Dennis Hopper), "We Blew it man, we blew it."
[05:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:32] <exec> 08└─Oh...and while I'm still up, Many thanks for all the recent work you've put in on this site. Glad to see you've survived all the storms that were around you in the last few weeks. Cheers, looks like good fishing weather is coming soon.
[05:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 6128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:34] <exec> 08└─I've stopped counting the number of sites that are so badly written that they need to be Nuked & Paved. Things like: OnMouseOver events. Really? What if the visitor isn't using a mouse? "But it reacts to touch input!" BFG. I'm not using a touch screen device. Next? I can *try* to interact with such...
[05:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:35:27] <exec> 08└─Do not underestimate the ability of SoylentNews users to collect porn.
[05:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:35:28] <exec> 08└─How fast can you download 16TB?
[05:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:35:30] <exec> 08└─If you want something, you should download a copy if you ever want to see it again. Try streaming the Brenton Tarrant Facebook live video. Possible, but not so easy.
[05:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:58] <exec> 08└─Our configuration management system is Paul. "Hey Paul, what's the latest on X?". Occasionally we have to reinstall beer in Paul, particularly on Friday afternoons, but apart from that it works OK.
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[06:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:23] <exec> 08└─Now that I'm getting older I find myself nesting more. I'm cooking away and yelling at the kids to get off my lawn. While I bake cookies for them. I think, perhaps, when I've got a nice hot batch of oatmeal raisin cookies to munch on that perhaps I'll curl up with some Tolkien. It's been 40 years or...
[06:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:25] <exec> 08└─Try the audiobooks with a hot cup of tea and a nice fire. As I age, I find that reading makes me as sleepy as Bilbo when he retired to Rivendale.
[06:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:40] <exec> 08└─I am quite anal about alt tags and do try to keep my sites accessible. Part of this is knowing some disabled people and watching them have a hard time. As far as disabling scripting, i go a little further. i disable scripting, images and style sheets, and in-browser media playback. Not because i am...
[06:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:42] <exec> 08└─The honest truth is that most of the time it's not that difficult or expensive to be accessible, it's just a matter of deciding that it matters.
[06:34:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 1175 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:53] <exec> 08└─You could say the same thing about 1GB of data 20 years ago. It's all about price and performance. 20 years ago, how long would 1GB have taken to transfer? a while.. not so bad. Right now, how long does 1TB take to transfer? a while.. not so bad. 20 years from now, how long will 1PB take to transfer...
[06:34:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:54] <exec> 08└─You know, I used to do that. Then I found out how much faster /dev/null's write speed is and never looked back.
[06:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:38] <exec> 08└─Torrents at 10 megabytes per second total? Filled in less than a month.
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[07:34:14] <exec> 08└─A guy's hand up your ass.
[07:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:16] <exec> 08└─That's just to insert the dosimeter. For your safety, of course.
[07:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:18] <exec> 08└─Was there not a graphic file of this floating about the intertubes? Ah, yes! Here it is! [blogspot.com] Ionizing radiation is no one's friend, and copping a feel is not nice, either. Why do you think all those TSA agents kept showing up when they were not getting paid? Yep, it was the live-action mo...
[07:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:26] <exec> 08└─Supposing I am the kind of artist who creates AI-generated art, it's not too far a stretch of the imagination to believe that I'm the kind of artist who indulges in a little AI-generated art speculation? Kind of goes hand-in-glove.
[07:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:28] <exec> 08└─You could even be an AI artwork created by another AI.
[07:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:31] <exec> 08└─Anyone ever seen the BBC program "Fake or Fortune"? Take an artwork, where you're not quite sure whether it was painted by X, or by friend of X. It's the same painting either way: there's no question of its authenticity, or age, or whatever. It's only a question of who held the brush at the time. Di...
[07:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:33] <exec> 08└─Seems like a good place to pay respects to the good olde https://electricsheep.org [electricsheep.org]
[07:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 849 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:59] <exec> 08└─I don't maintain any (commercial) websites anymore, just my private one, and one with projects for my students. So I'm out-of-date on web design. That said... ...how can any site be "accessible", if it relies on scripts and CSS-trickery to render things? How is Lynx, or a screen reader, supposed to...
[07:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing 737 Max Aircraft Grounded in the U.S. and Dozens of Other Countries - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:32] <exec> 08└─That’s not the order of events, but I didn’t mention trump at all. The order of events were countries from singapore to austrailia to France to Uk to Canada had grounded them, but the faa was still saying they were fine. Then the faa finally changed their mind days after the second crash of a br...
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[08:34:24] <exec> 08└─Neutrons on a plane! I bet there’s protons too. https://youtu.be [youtu.be] Atoms! Six of them! Take him away
[08:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:26] <exec> 08└─"I have had it with these motherhugging neutrons on this motherhugging plane!"
[08:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Captival [6866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:36] <exec> 08└─I had a look at that faceless series linked in the story, and I'm very suspicious. Not because it's too good to be AI, but because it is NOT good enough for it. Go have a look at Studio Painter [synthetik.com], which is a nice piece of art software I use now and again. There's some really impressive...
[08:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:38] <exec> 08└─I've passed into an age where I start to appreciate art (as a child I never understood why anyone would be interested in it). The most important aspect in it is that you have to like and enjoy to look at it, or that it has a connection with you. Lot of these "high-price increasing masterpieces" are,...
[08:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:05] <exec> 08└─I mean leave the presentation for the end user to worry about, just provide the raw materials you wish. This is how it should work if you ask me. Different people, different preferences. It's really hard to grasp, I know.
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[09:34:30] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the increased neutron flux is triggering bugs in the airplane software. Thasts why there's so many crashes near the equator recently.
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[09:34:43] <exec> 08└─Gerald Scarfe (of /Yes (Prime) Minister/ credits, and Pink Floyd's /The Wall/, fame) did an expose of this ages back too (80s/90s probably). One bit I remember was when he attempted to hawk a piece which he titled /Blue Moons/, created by his butt-cheeks after a visit to a dish of paint, to various...
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[09:35:06] <exec> 08└─I've stopped counting the number of sites that are so badly written that they need to be Nuked & Paved. Things like: OnMouseOver events. Really? What if the visitor isn't using a mouse? "But it reacts to touch input!" BFG. I'm not using a touch screen device. Next? I can *try* to interact with such...
[09:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:11] <exec> 08└─the fetish for lots of whitespace and images. Well, I have looked at the pictures, and I ca assure you that at least 90% are stock pictures completely unrelated to the story anyway. But don't worry about the headlines, the complete lack of punctuation and mania for puns ensures that most people can...
[09:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 805 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:14] <exec> 08└─What if I told you that seventy percent of all bridges were structurally unsound? Then you would have lost the plot. "Compliance" is not a relevant metric for most web sites. More than 50% of all websites are unuseable by people with average ability - but this is a clue to the fact that the content...
[09:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:16] <exec> 08└─I mean leave the presentation for the end user to worry about, just provide the raw materials you wish. Are you suggesting we should go back to how it was 20 years ago - before "flash" was invented? Suggesting the content that matters, and not the presentation? You must be a nerd!
[09:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:21] <exec> 08└─They already know how to make things tough.. https://www.topgear.com [topgear.com] https://topgear.fandom.com [fandom.com]
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[10:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:32] <exec> 08└─You have it quite backwards. The neutrons come in, due to global warming they have expanded in recent years, removing space available to electrons (that's the software, you know). This makes computers calculate slower of course (that's why computers are always slower than advertised) leading to all...
[10:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:17] <exec> 08└─As someone who cares about accessibility, what I notice the most is not sites doing nothing to aid accessibility, it's sites actively doing something that harms accessibility. Anyone who uses javascript to do something CSS can do (such as roll-over/pull-down menus) should be shot. Anyone who uses ja...
[10:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:18] <exec> 08└─I'm writing a site which will display a selection of paragraph-length chunks of data to the viewer, but I want to only display the first line of each chunk by default, and then expand the full paragraph if clicked on. What is the most reader-freindly way of doing this? I have a CSS-based solution th...
[10:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:20] <exec> 08└─Do you think lynx or screen readers makes sense of the CSS-based menus I created here: http://ratewhisky.org ? It was designed from the ground up with both GUI browsers and console browsers in mind. (And as you can tell, I couldn't decide how I wanted it to appear in a text brows...
[10:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:23] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the semantic web has been implemented by taking the uglyweb, and pasting a shed load of extra tags and attributes on top of it so that the important bits can be identified, rather than by stripping off all the ugly and just presenting the facts.
[10:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 976 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:25] <exec> 08└─That's not whataboutary. Whataboutary is found in a dialogue: A: Your side is associated with negative property X B: Your side is also associated with negative property X. (Usually worded as "what about the X that your side is associated with") Neither statement need be false for whatabo...
[10:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 1538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:36:21] <exec> 08└─Cost is the only factor here. If 32Tb drives were cheap enough that you could have two, you'd do that. 16Tb is likely where 2 x 8Tb costs much less than 1 x 16Tb, which is why they don't want them. They'd rather get 8Tb of slightly-more-redundant storage. And with enterprise-level SSDs, you can get...
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[11:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:42] <exec> 08└─Dang! Are you a Markov Chain Generator with some semantics filtering so that the topics seem slightly related? They definitely would pass the Turing test with a layman on the other side.
[11:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:43] <exec> 08└─More like a Markov pyramid of needs. I mean, just about everything is made up of stuff needing neutrons, right? Gotta be one of the lower pyramid levels!
[11:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 3745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:35:34] <exec> 08└─Simple. Don't pull fancy tricks. Just present the data in a flat, right out up front, unhidden, unmoving, no scripting/CSS fluff. Just. Plain. Text. on a plain HTML page. Consider how your site would (not) work if the only way to interact with it is to have it read aloud from beginning to end. If yo...
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[12:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03noneof_theabove [6189] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:17] <exec> 08└─Most research at leading universities is payed for with Tax Payer Funds. Somewhat like the Planned Parenthood bull*t. A PP location may not be doing abortions, but they received federal funds for "planning" and the Right Wing Nuts want them shut down anyway. UNIVERSITIES SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET "I...
[12:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:18] <exec> 08└─The universities have just become a PR wing for venture capitalists and corporations at this point.
[12:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:21] <exec> 08└─add to this the fact that a naturally occuring protein cannot be patented. It's just DNA>-RNA->amino acids. The very fact the academics are arguing over its "provenance" shows how corrupt the system is.
[12:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:23] <exec> 08└─It has been normalized. They would probably say that they are being compensated for their hard work, and at least they aren't patenting human genes. It would be possible to adjust funding sources if some law ever threatened their ability to patent tax-payer funded discoveries.
[12:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:50] <exec> 08└─I mean, just about everything is made up of stuff needing neutrons, right?
[12:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:05] <exec> 08└─Just going by the results, this is kiddie stuff. Real "AI art" should be fun and free, or super advanced like the AI-created "sculpture" in Journeyman Project 2. Other acceptable answers include forgeries created by AI or made with AI assistance. You could come up with a "lost painting" by some famo...
[12:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 1741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:44] <exec> 08└─Sure, I want the raw HTML to be as universally as useful as possible, to browsers great and small, to readers, to scrapers (the more lightweight a page is, the less imposition a spider visiting it is), etc., even to a human just reading the HTML! But what I'm talking about is *enhancing* - actually...
[12:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:42] <exec> 08└─If you want something, you should download a copy if you ever want to see it again. Try streaming the Brenton Tarrant Facebook live video. Possible, but not so easy.
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[13:34:18] <exec> 08└─These are just the first dominos to fall. With governments and administrations that have enemies lists we are going to see much more of this type of thing, and much much worse. When the press is reviled for reporting what government, military and police officials are doing we need to pay attention....
[13:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:29] <exec> 08└─It would be possible to adjust funding sources if some law ever threatened their ability to patent tax-payer funded discoveries.
[13:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toshiba Roadmap Includes Both MAMR and HAMR Hard Drives, as Well as TDMR and Shingles - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:36] <exec> 08└─It's MAMR time! Meh, nobody needs more than 16 TB of hard drive space. ---MS Bob.
[13:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toshiba Roadmap Includes Both MAMR and HAMR Hard Drives, as Well as TDMR and Shingles - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:38] <exec> 08└─Seagate Plans 36 TB HAMR HDDs by 2022, 48 TB by 2024 [soylentnews.org] Seagate Readying 16-24 TB HAMR HDDs, and Hard Drives With Two Actuators [soylentnews.org]
[13:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:00] <exec> 08└─That's a good point. If anything we don't have enough neutrons to waste on radiation. Get those free neutrons into deuterium, stat!
[13:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:02] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. Neutrons are harmless - nearly half your weight is made up of neutrons, and they don't carry any electrical charge so how can they hurt you? Its like all those silly people worrying about carbon dioxide, which animals have been breathing out since 4004BC, and is so safe that they put it in...
[13:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:18] <exec> 08└─Cross off safe-from-AI jobs list: artist Sure you may not like this particular iteration but someone with cash did like it. Also note that art is the area many people thought forever safe from AI; they’d tell you “if AI does take our jobs we can all be artists”
[13:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:19] <exec> 08└─learn to paint, they said, the car factory is a nice place, they said.
[13:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:21] <exec> 08└─> Rich fools wanting to be parted from their money. It's worse than that, it's not the full of bliss rich throwing money around. It's the social ladder climbing rich who needs something that is both new and flashy to distinguish himself from his peers. It's like the quest of social influencers for a...
[13:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:24] <exec> 08└─I've passed into an age where I start to appreciate art (as a child I never understood why anyone would be interested in it). Usually it has something to do with erectile dysfunction too.
[13:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:26] <exec> 08└─An artist's compensation isn't necessarily correlated with their talent or creative output. The job can often be called con artist, or schmoozer. "AI" hasn't even scored a win here since it was just some human artists who fiddled around on a computer and submitted it to an auction house. The real wo...
[13:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:05] <exec> 08└─The trend that drives me nuts - the fetish for lots of whitespace and images. Smartphones have small screens - you'd think sites would want more information density, not less. Yet: our bank changed their site, so that it now fits only 1/4 as many transactions on the screen (seriously, used to be 20,...
[13:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:06] <exec> 08└─How about keeping the HTML clean and having a separate Javascript file that shrinks the size of a div containing the paragraph text (with appropriate CSS to truncate overflow) and attaches a click event to a small button image which regrows the div and turns off text truncation when clicked. That wa...
[13:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:06] <exec> 08└─1 Tb = 125 GB. You mean 1 TB. Honestly, we need to just stop making consumer HDDs and pour the manufacturing and clout into making more and cheaper SSDs instead.
[13:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:23] <exec> 08└─Some twits decided to map a map in Australia of the location of cattle farms. Guess what happened next. No. Putting information online is not always helpful.
[13:38:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Citizen" Real-Time Crime Alerting App Expands to Los Angeles - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:25] <exec> 08└─It sounds like it was very helpful. Just not to the cattle farmers. So what's your next move, Aussies? Ban maps?
[13:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:39] <exec> 08└─Shitpoint
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[14:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 1344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:20] <exec> 08└─"We, most of us, speaking for myself, consider the wall immoral, ineffective and expensive......we have a responsibility, all of us, to secure our borders, north, south, and coming in by plane on our coasts, three coasts, north, south, and west, and that's responsibility we honor, but we do so by ho...
[14:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:21] <exec> 08└─When the press is reviled for reporting what government, military and police officials are doing we need to pay attention. If what is reported is true, then anyone trying to stop it or label the reporters as "enmities of the state" is endangering the 1st Amendment for all of us.
[14:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 1196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:47] <exec> 08└─It is interesting to see open source principles applied to hardware. As in the early days of software the GPL was necessary to prevent *cough* Microsoft from stealing open source code, while hoarding their own closed source code. (There I said it and named their name.) Now talk about Hardware and na...
[14:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:07] <exec> 08└─These are "albedo neutrons": https://www.jhuapl.edu [jhuapl.edu] They do the opposite of CO2.
[14:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:08] <exec> 08└─Just to correct the summary, the neutrons are obviously NOT cosmic rays. Free neutrons have a half life of only about 10 minutes before decaying into hydrogen, and reach energies above 20MeV when traveling at relativistic velocities that would slow their local time significantly. Therefore, these ne...
[14:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:10] <exec> 08└─wait I thought it was 4019BC. Every year, the counter increments because it's always been 6000 years since creation.
[14:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 1634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:12] <exec> 08└─You're being funny, but you're also advancing one of the great misunderstandings about CO2. Generally speaking ecological CO2 such as produced when breathing, burning wood, or brewing alcohol isn't a problem - the planet has a nice relatively stable ecological carbon cycle that circulates carbon bet...
[14:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:15] <exec> 08└─runaway greenhouse process that would have likely otherwise ended with Earth looking much more similar to Venus.
[14:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:17] <exec> 08└─It takes ~336,000 J/kg to evaporate water. So this process would require 1.6e26 J, or about half the entire output of the sun. https://en.wikipedia.org(energy) [wikipedia.org]
[14:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 1025 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:46] <exec> 08└─The article had a few scans of Tolkien's art, so that's something. But what I want to know, is when will the public have high quality scans of famous visual art available online, just a quick search away? I have occasionally gone looking, and too often find people are clutching the originals like th...
[14:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:17] <exec> 08└─I don't want to say you are missing the point, but you are fixing something that isn't broke by the means of breaking what doesn't need fixing. It will work for you, but not for the intents nor reasonings you are hoping for. It could very well be that the tools used to help scrape websites need to b...
[14:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:18] <exec> 08└─There is no properly designed situation where losing a drive of any size is a significant annoyance.
[14:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:19] <exec> 08└─>If a "storage device" needs constantly be backed up onto another reliable one, Except that's true of *every* storage device, regardless of reliability, because there's no such thing as a truly reliable device. There's only two kinds of data in the world: that which you've already backed up to an in...
[14:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:32] <exec> 08└─... What will be truly amazing is the Peak Driving charges the astronauts will have to pay on their Uber bill.
[14:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:47] <exec> 08└─try thinking for yourself instead of just listening to others.
[14:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:48] <exec> 08└─Not mentioned by anyone yet, but people were unable to use their Oculus Rift devices (even for SteamVR) because the server was down.
[14:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook [Was] Down - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:50] <exec> 08└─If I think for myself, then I wouldn't listen to you telling me to think for myself. Therefore, I would not be thinking for myself but listening to others.
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[15:34:18] <exec> 08└─You say that like it's a bad thing.
[15:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:19] <exec> 08└─Whatever else did they expect? That poor DNA, waits and waits for millennia, only to be put in a mouse? It's like putting my AI to sleep() and it being woken up by systemd. Do you think I wouldn't scream myself to death? Wouldn't you?
[15:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:22] <exec> 08└─researchers extracted cells from Yuka, a woolly mammoth mummy (Mammuthus primigenius) whose remains were discovered in the Siberian permafrost in 2011. Then, the scientists recovered the least-damaged nuclei (structures that contain genetic material) from each cell and popped the nuclei into mouse e...
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[15:34:31] <exec> 08└─When the press is reviled for reporting what government, military and police officials are doing we need to pay attention. If what is reported is true, then anyone trying to stop it or label the reporters as "enmities of the state" is endangering the 1st Amendment for all of us.
[15:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:34] <exec> 08└─The Open Society Foundations of George Soros and the Atlantic Philanthropies of General Atlantic [archive.is] want you to think it is somehow bad that the Department of Homeland Security is doing its job by investigating agents of a foreign power that is paying mercenaries to invade the United State...
[15:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:36] <exec> 08└─Oh no, not the George Soros boogieman. George Soros is the monster that hides under Boomers' beds. Remember, its ok to give up liberties if you are giving them up to Republicans.
[15:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Tokolosh [585] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:38] <exec> 08└─Once you've built the big machinery of political power, remember you won't always be the one to run it. -- P. J. O'Rourke
[15:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:40] <exec> 08└─Many dominos indeed, for example the Integrity Initiative. It is likely you haven't heard about this yet, as intended. Data was obtained by anonymous: https://www.cyberguerrilla.org [cyberguerrilla.org] Good coverage o...
[15:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:42] <exec> 08└─The simple fact is that the US "national security" agencies have never been politically neutral organizations, nor have they ever been concerned with whether their actions are legal. They have no particular interest in protecting American civilians - their actual goals are, in rough order: 1. Protec...
[15:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:45] <exec> 08└─Dear Dumb Dem Moderators, why "Offtopic"? The topic is the Crisis (National Emergency) on our Southern Border. The "migrant caravans heading from Central America [Middle East] to the United States." The people that are funding the Caravans. And how we're using Surveilance to solve that one. Somethin...
[15:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:07] <exec> 08└─Is a viral open source license needed?
[15:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:08] <exec> 08└─I heard that term used pejoratively back in the Y! SCOX days. (SCO vs IBM)
[15:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:34] <exec> 08└─A free testicular cancer exam as part of TSA's service. TSA is your fiend. Trust the TSA.
[15:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:35] <exec> 08└─In the helpful spirit of homeopathy, anti-vaxxers, flat earthers and climate change deniers, let me offer the helpful tip that you can protect yourself from those stray protons by using a cloth mask that has been dipped in lemon juice. Its True! I read it on the intarwebs! A video even proves it is...
[15:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 1339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:37] <exec> 08└─Funny thing about water - it doesn't stop evaporating until you either lower the temperature or saturate the atmosphere. And water is a potent greenhouse gas, the more water there is in the atmosphere, the higher the temperature climbs, and the more water is required to saturate it. Water alone is s...
[15:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:39] <exec> 08└─Double check that table - that's half the output of the sun in *one second* Meanwhile the Earth intercepts about 4.6*10^-10 of the sun's total output So, to receive that much power would require 1.6e26 J * 2 * 4.6*10^-10 = ~ 37*10^15 seconds, or about 1 billion years - less than 1/4 of the age of th...
[15:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:42] <exec> 08└─I get: secPerYear = (60*60*24*365) = 31,536,000 (1.6e26 * 2 * 4.6e-10)/31536000 = 4.67 billion years
[15:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:44] <exec> 08└─The energy to evaporate the water will also increase as the pressure rises. At Venus pressures water doesn't boil until 300 C: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com [engineeringtoolbox.com]
[15:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:46] <exec> 08└─Don't blame the universe for Badvertisements.
[15:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:06] <exec> 08└─They told me my house would be a good place to start.
[15:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:08] <exec> 08└─Is it Art? Or has the AI been exposed to or ingested some LDS?
[15:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:51] <exec> 08└─I was going to reply that a simple answer to lack of accessibility is that it is not a PHB priority. Profit above all else. But your post points out that the winds could change.
[15:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:52] <exec> 08└─What if I told you that seventy percent of all bridges were structurally unsound?
[15:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:54] <exec> 08└─s/or/are/
[15:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:57] <exec> 08└─Considering the blingtastic awfulness of modern websites, you're out of luck. *One of those people, who would like DSL* I moved recently, closer in to a town, but my previous fixed wireless provider couldn't find a tower that could service me. So, I'm stuck looking for a decent ISP that doesn't want...
[15:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:58] <exec> 08└─If you want something, you should download a copy if you ever want to see it again.
[15:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:00] <exec> 08└─That ignorant video suggests that you cannot shard /dev/null in order to gain superior write performance. Here are helpful tips for the skeptics. Make /dev/null scalable in case you are doing too much IO to /dev/null! Shard /dev/null into multiple nodes. Create a /dev/null1 like this: $ sudo mknod -...
[15:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:02] <exec> 08└─I own one of these bad boys and a 512GB same brand. They're both doing quite well. Mushkin Enhanced Reactor 2.5" 1TB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDRE1TB - Sale Price $135. https://www.newegg.com
[15:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:04] <exec> 08└─Desktops should have 1+ TB SSD and big HDD only as secondary and/or external storage.
[15:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:06] <exec> 08└─I am not sure your argument is relevant for the data center. Whether a single 16Tb drive fails or 10 1.6Tb drives does not matter for the data center. There will be an average file-restore capacity needed in the network and it does not matter to which drives it goes. Smaller data centers could see s...
[15:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:08] <exec> 08└─Expert advice: a raid array of SD cards. For reliability! All of those SD cards connected to the raspberry pi by a single USB connector for convenience. Then make it into a storage and media server. (do I need an /s tag here?)
[15:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:21] <exec> 08└─I'm picturing something similar to the mini-bus like vehicle portrayed in the 'Lost in Space' TV series. And from extensive research via anime, I would expect a pressurized crew cabin, with a 'changing'/storage area w/ airlock for the spacesuits. I have not seen any proposed plans, and this is entir...
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[16:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:22] <exec> 08└─How big was it?
[16:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:23] <exec> 08└─Depends on your view of how the dinosaurs came about. There are some who believe that part of the reason the world was destroyed by the flood is due to genetic manipulations. I.E. playing god with genetics and creating the dinosaurs. Along with all the rest of the horrible things they were doing to...
[16:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:26] <exec> 08└─If you are superstitious, you should recognize that all the good (and bad) of modern life is a result in meddling in god(s)' domain(s). Even something as simple as gardening.
[16:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:41] <exec> 08└─"...based in New York, the UK, the EU, and a handful of other allied nations..." I'm not entirely sure I'd classify New York as an allied nation. Generally speaking, you can count on allies to be friendly or at least treat you with benign neglect. As a proud citizen of Flyoverstan, I can say that at...
[16:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:43] <exec> 08└─This "caravan" shit is obviously a public relations setup. Some big money went into it. And I for one, am interested myself. I hope they publicize the info they gather. By the way, why is nobody talking about the CIA breaking into North Korea's embassy in Madrid? That's some serious shit!
[16:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03edinlinux [4637] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:45] <exec> 08└─Trump being a wacko aside (I didn't vote for him), there are something like between 15 or 20million illegals in this country, depending on which side you ask, mostly walking across the desert from Mexico (or caravan'ing or whatever). If that is not an invasion then I am not sure what is.. (sheesh, t...
[16:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:47] <exec> 08└─Good job for NBC to have published this, this is what journalists should be doing. On the other hand, this is also what our state security services should be doing. Lest we forget, there is a great human tragedy that was unleashed by a group of (naive?) virtue signallers and social justice warriors....
[16:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:49] <exec> 08└─The leadership staff of the state security organs were drawn from East Cost (including New York) high society scions that went to ivy league schools.
[16:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:51] <exec> 08└─Like a little punk bitch you deleted your violence inducing tweet. What a goddamn coward wrapped in a shitty orange skin. Anyone supporting Trump now is a violent sociopath AND coward, a weird despicable combo.
[16:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:54] <exec> 08└─This "caravan" shit is obviously a public relations setup. Some big money went into it. And I for one, am interested myself. I hope they publicize the info they gather.
[16:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:56] <exec> 08└─https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/09/free-societies-russia-misinformation-integrity-initiative [theguardian.com]
[16:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:58] <exec> 08└─When people enter your country to live and work it is not an invasion. Such shitty rhetoric trying to incite violence. You may not have voted for Trump but you do sound like a smarter version of him.
[16:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:00] <exec> 08└─so then just get rid of the border entirely, and let anyone who wants to come, come in then... how exactly do you expect that to turn out in the end? (there are over 500 million people in Central and South America who then could just 'walk in' or 'caravan in') There is nothing wrong with immigration...
[16:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:03] <exec> 08└─>When people enter your country to live and work it is not an invasion. Tell that to the Romans after the barbarians came to 'live and work', or to the Japanese after the Russians came to the northern islands at the end of WWII to 'live and work', or to the aboriginals of Australia (or the USA and C...
[16:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:05] <exec> 08└─why "Offtopic"?
[16:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:33] <exec> 08└─Open Software can also be valuable for all parties. In the Java-centric world where I live, there are TONS and TONS literally an embarrassment of open source riches. All interoperable. Mostly licensed under the Apache 2 license rather than GPL. Using a license like Apache 2 (but also others MIT, BSD...
[16:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:06] <exec> 08└─Evaporation doesn't rely on boiling, and happens at pretty much any temperature. It accelerates as you approach boiling, and slowing it will reduce the equilibrium humidity somewhat, but it's not going to fundamentally alter the process. Especially if we're only talking 2atm instead of Venus's 90atm...
[16:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:07] <exec> 08└─Quite so. I went back and added the two that I had forgotten, and then adjusted the result in the wrong direction. Except, actually it was the *right* direction (increasing the power decreases time needed to to receive X energy) , and the rest of my math was completely wrong. Too early for math I gu...
[16:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:10] <exec> 08└─Especially if we're only talking 2atm instead of Venus's 90atm.
[16:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:12] <exec> 08└─...cloth mask that has been dipped in lemon juice.
[16:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:14] <exec> 08└─I guess you don't realize that it's 2019+4019-1=6037 years since 4019 BCE.
[16:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:16] <exec> 08└─I don't want temperatures like Venus - temperatures too high to support complex life are quite sufficient for us to be "Venus-like" enough for me.
[16:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:18] <exec> 08└─I don't want temperatures like Venus - temperatures too high to support complex life are quite sufficient for us to be "Venus-like" enough for me.
[16:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:40] <exec> 08└─Back then we had this kind of cute tricks too, like computer generated poetry. About that time the AI hype crashed, because funders finally wanted to see real value.
[16:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:41] <exec> 08└─Yes...but the price bid is a bit beyond the means of most artists...
[16:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but it stopped working on my Linux systems. It's good to hear that it still works on Android and Apple.
[16:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:55] <exec> 08└─It's a way to ensure that only those who live in or can travel to big cities maintain their stranglehold on culture. They don't want the unwashed masses to be able to access such information because it helps them maintain their elite and special status.
[16:37:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 159 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:06] <exec> 08└─...how we could make the web live up to its promise as a truly universal medium, one that could be accessed by anyone, anywhere, regardless of ability or need.
[16:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ShadowSystems [6185] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 1689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:32] <exec> 08└─You call it "enhancement", assistive tech interfaces call it a right pain in the ass. Why bother hiding/truncating it at all? That's just a fancy visual trick to make the content look a specific way, a way that doesn't translate to a non visual interface. Think of a sheet of binder paper. You can't...
[16:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:33] <exec> 08└─From TFS: even including throwbacks like using tables for layout
[16:38:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:41] <exec> 08└─you have no business making tech decisions in the first place.
[16:38:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:43] <exec> 08└─If nobody wants SSDs bigger than 16 TB but bigger HDDs are okay, then could the objection be overcome if someone would make SSDs that are spun while in operation?
[16:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:45] <exec> 08└─True. I am concerned [wikipedia.org] that I might not be able to find Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up".
[16:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Development Agency Established Within U.S. Department of Defense - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:28] <exec> 08└─I agree that fusion research is a chancy bet, and we don't know the odds. That said, "larger is better" is not proven. It's better in some ways, e.g. it makes it easier to heat, but it's worse in other ways, e.g. flow instabilities are harder to control. And it also depends on the approach. Tokamaks...
[16:41:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:21] <exec> 08└─Which goes back to the question of why use a wildcard cert
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[17:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:18] <exec> 08└─they may be caused by an increase in the number of phat phuckers forming the two-backed monster.
[17:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:19] <exec> 08└─Which could easily be described as tectonic collisions.
[17:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:22] <exec> 08└─The process is simple. Much of the rock in Earth’s mantle is composed largely of silicate, and when exposed to the air, it will naturally react with carbon dioxide, forming new minerals that sequester carbon as a solid.
[17:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:24] <exec> 08└─they may be caused by an increase in the number of phat phuckers forming the two-backed monst
[17:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:36] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one thinking about movies like "Night of the living dead" or "Pet cemetery" right now ?
[17:34:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Tokolosh [585] 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 121 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:48] <exec> 08└─Once you've built the big machinery of political power, remember you won't always be the one to run it. -- P. J. O'Rourke
[17:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:06] <exec> 08└─so then just get rid of the border entirely, and let anyone who wants to come, come in then...
[17:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:07] <exec> 08└─Dear Dumb Dem Moderators, why "Offtopic"?
[17:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:09] <exec> 08└─There is nothing wrong with immigration, provided it is based on merit
[17:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:12] <exec> 08└─George Soros is the monster that hides under Boomers' beds.
[17:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:14] <exec> 08└─It's not a strawman . Right now the border is defacto already open What do you suggest then? Open or closed? How do you decide who gets to come and 'live and work' then?
[17:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:16] <exec> 08└─The people who want to live and work here have legal ways to come do so. The process could certainly stand to be improved and sped up, but unless we actually stop illegal crossings, there's no way to know if any individual coming across illegally is someone looking for a better life, a drug/sex traf...
[17:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:18] <exec> 08└─It's not a strawman . Right now the border is defacto already open What do you suggest then? Open or closed? How do you decide who gets to come and 'live and work' then?
[17:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:20] <exec> 08└─When people enter your country to live and work it is not an invasion.
[17:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:23] <exec> 08└─A discussion on who we should let into the country is pointless unless we can stop people from just walking across. But I would be in favor of allowing anyone in who truly just wants a chance to contribute to the country and earn an honest living. Put up the wall and we can let them in while stoppin...
[17:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:25] <exec> 08└─Ah, someone brought up the Romans already.
[17:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:27] <exec> 08└─The problem is that about 1/2 the population is willing to turn a blind eye to it because . . . . Trump.
[17:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:29] <exec> 08└─20 million already got through and more come each day (several hundreds to thousands) Looks pretty open to me..
[17:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:31] <exec> 08└─If that is not an invasion then I am not sure what is.
[17:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:34] <exec> 08└─It can't be that difficult. 20 million illegal invaders is 2 in 35 Americans. Ask the D.H.S. to organize you into armed "gilets brunes" groups (something tells me they would be good at this task). Then just round up everybody in groups of 35, using roadblocks, checkpoints at malls and gas stations,...
[17:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:36] <exec> 08└─How many times must people post the FACTS that the vast majority of illegal immigration is due to overstaying visas after people come in legally. You're probably the type that would view Puerto Ricans as illegal immigrants too.
[17:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:47] <exec> 08└─I wish. Unfortunately, before the governments got involved in research, it was largely corporate, and right now the corporations already have too much power. So getting the governments out would make things worse. What is needed, instead, is a requirement that patents are not transferable. And that...
[17:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:49] <exec> 08└─P.S.: Not transferable includes also not transferable by purchase of a currently owning entity.
[17:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, that matches with the "Total energy from the Sun that strikes the face of the Earth each year" I see there now. So, pile on enough greenhouse-effect insulation, and it would take less than a century to *completely* vaporize the Earth's oceans.
[17:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:47] <exec> 08└─> NOT cosmic rays Most particle physicists refer to cosmic rays but they really mean secondary particles induced by cosmic rays. For example, at sea level, away from any radioactive or artificial radiation sources, the majority of incident particles are muons (half life 2.2e-6 seconds) created by pi...
[17:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:50] <exec> 08└─Peak temperatures are rather irrelevant, you can always find somewhere to hide. And the Moon's average temperature varies between 215K at the equator, to 104K above 85* latitude. Meanwhile the Earth's average is currently 287K, and only has to increase by 86C to make it awful difficult to find liqui...
[17:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:52] <exec> 08└─I didn't realize that SN was populated primarily by particle physicists. Experts take all sorts of linguistic short-cuts when talking amongst themselves. When talking to laymen however, it's important to not do that or you just spread confusion and misinformation.
[17:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:54] <exec> 08└─Well, it depends on exactly what you're asking. So long as a planet is in thermal equilibrium (i.e. not currently heating or cooling) it will always emit *exactly* 100% as much average energy as it's receiving from the sun. Any less, and that excess energy must be accumulating on the planet, causing...
[17:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:56] <exec> 08└─I think you left out black body radiation. As the temperature of the earth increases, the amount of heat it radiates increases. IIRC this is a fourth power law. So it should mean you are overestimating the rise in temperature. (By how much, though?)
[17:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:58] <exec> 08└─It's worth mentioning that at the current thermal discrepency though the imbalance in received versus radiated light is *tiny* - it's only the truly mind-boggling absolute amount of solar energy hitting the Earth that allows a tiny imbalance to cause as much heating as we're seeing.
[17:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:01] <exec> 08└─Sorry for confusing all you laymen. I think it's pretty obvious what is meant however, even to people so uninformed as SN readers.
[17:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 2152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:03] <exec> 08└─Not really - that's doesn't factor into things as much until you start looking at the *consequences* of the increased greenhouse gasses. If you increase the planet's temperature by 1*C, you increase the water in the atmosphere by somewhere around 7% to maintain equilibrium humidity. Now, the consequ...
[17:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:05] <exec> 08└─I didn't really understand the original since I thought neutrons didn't interact with much and I thought cosmic rays were solar system source gamma rays and I'm a physics lab demonstrator. It never hurts to form your responses with people in mind who don't travel in the same circles as you do. Other...
[17:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:07] <exec> 08└─Really? You think most SN readers are aware that the half-life of a neutron is such that such low-energy neutron radiation couldn't possibly be cosmic rays and must be secondary radiation? Now, we have a bunch of clever people here, that's a big part of the reason I take part in the discussions. But...
[17:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:32] <exec> 08└─Jackson Pollock is not a fair example. Most people who recognize his style don't understand the deeper layers of it. I'm one who doesn't understand it, but there's been a thorough computer analysis, and he isn't working at anything approaching random. There's a message there, even though I don't und...
[17:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:45] <exec> 08└─those who live in or can travel to big cities
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[18:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:14] <exec> 08└─Didn't they announce that they were going to be making a bunch of sweeping changes to narrow the viewership of alt-fact videos like conspiracies, anti-vax, extremism, etc? Seems to logical to me that alt-right videos would get caught up in that net.
[18:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:16] <exec> 08└─Alt-right, or whatever - Youtube and it's parent Google have decided that they are the gatekeepers. They will decide what is fit for the public to see. "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
[18:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:18] <exec> 08└─alt-fact videos like conspiracies, anti-vax, extremism
[18:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:20] <exec> 08└─Yeah, Youtube stopped recommending conspiracy videos like chemtrails, gay frogs, flat earth, anti-wax, Sandy Hook, 9/11 and so on. Guys like Alex Jones are less likely to be recommended and if you have people like that on a podcast...
[18:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:31] <exec> 08└─ugh
[18:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:32] <exec> 08└─Yay science! I haven't heard this one before, very interesting. Not something for us to worry about in the short term, just another thing to keep track of. See you coal rollers, just wait long enough and you'll become environmentalists saving us from carbon sequestration.
[18:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:34] <exec> 08└─How about this one. Use nukes to create a large crevice, hopefully exposing carbon-thirsty rock and maybe causing a little nuclear winter on the side.
[18:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:36] <exec> 08└─Not new #lame #stupid
[18:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:34] <exec> 08└─Ummm what now? In no way will that stop the exploiters. Immigrants are easily exploited because they don't know labor laws and their employment prospects are shitty if they don't speak English very well. The wall is stupid, full stop. It has been sold to you through a variety of emotional fear-monge...
[18:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:35] <exec> 08└─Would it be stretching the point too far to suggest we take your "immigration based on merit" concept and expand on it just a bit? Why not just simplify it all and just go with merit-based citizenship, regardless of how you got here? Immigration, kidnapping, birth... doesn't matter. As soon as they...
[18:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:37] <exec> 08└─You forgot the opening <sarcasm> line and now my browser is stuck in a dark place. Thaaaanks
[18:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:39] <exec> 08└─"A coalition of human rights groups and technology organizations has blasted House Democrats’ high-tech border security proposal as a potentially invasive form of surveillance that would curtail Americans' privacy and target minorities. 'We know that the border is often a testing ground for survei...
[18:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:42] <exec> 08└─That's not policy, it's from a poem written by a Zionist activist.
[18:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:44] <exec> 08└─Here is an estimate from a site tracking "undocumented" who crossed the border (so presumably they are pro illegal immigration, using that loaded "undocumented" word) https://www.factcheck.org [factcheck.org] And even their number is still over 10 million!! (g...
[18:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:46] <exec> 08└─All those things happen only if the 'invadees' resist the invasion.. Right now we are not resisting.. The Chinese PLA could come in the same way and do the same thing if no one here resisted, and it would still be an invasion..
[18:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:49] <exec> 08└─Actually, if we started enforcing immigration laws, and started mass deportations of illegals, you certainly *would* start to see those things and such instability as the mass deportations continued (since it is actually an invasion).
[18:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:51] <exec> 08└─Yup, illegals are like 8% of the US population today. It will be very hard to deport so many now without serious levels of civil unrest or even a real civil war in some regions of the country (i.e. California, where Hispanics now outnumber any other ethnic group). It has gone on for so long now, it...
[18:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:53] <exec> 08└─We actually have a better chance than usual to reverse some of these abuses.
[18:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:55] <exec> 08└─Here is an estimate from a site tracking "undocumented" who crossed the border (so presumably they are pro illegal immigration, using that loaded "undocumented" word) https://www.factcheck.org [factcheck.org] [factcheck.org] And even their number is still over...
[18:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:58] <exec> 08└─Deusvincere'd already?
[18:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 2034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:00] <exec> 08└─(cont) "We will push for a smart, effective border security posture, one that does not rely on costly physical barriers. House Democrats’ proposal funds: .....New cutting edge technology along the border to improve situational awareness" The Press Release of the Dem proposal (Jan.). And those of y...
[18:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:02] <exec> 08└─Right now we are not resisting..
[18:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:04] <exec> 08└─why "Offtopic"?
[18:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:07] <exec> 08└─George Soros is wealthy; incredibly wealthy. George Soros has a political agenda. He does not dispute nor does he try to hide his political strategy and he uses his wealth with great success to achieve that goal. He is no different philosophically than Rupert Murdoch but only resides on a different...
[18:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:09] <exec> 08└─How is that an argument against the wall? Besides, it will stop certain forms of exploitation. Specifically, the coyotes who smuggle people across the border away from the official ports of entry.
[18:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:11] <exec> 08└─Link [elpais.com]: At least two of the 10 assailants who broke into the embassy and interrogated diplomatic staff have been identified and have connections to the US intelligence agency. The CIA has denied any involvement but government sources say their response was "unconvincing."
[18:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:31] <exec> 08└─Well, if you're a demonstrator these details may come up at some point, so let me correct you a bit: You're right about neutrons not interacting much, they pretty much have to collide head-on with the infinitesimally small nucleus of an atom to interact at all. So, once they're produced they tend to...
[18:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:33] <exec> 08└─~1.5 atm down some mineshafts and see the temperature already rises 42 K
[18:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:35] <exec> 08└─My bad, from this article [niscair.res.in].
[18:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 977 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:01] <exec> 08└─Well, I was going to link this but didn't: https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com] You could use an algorithm to judge the similarity of a painting to Jackson Pollock, and then tweak your robot/algorithm accordin...
[18:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:03] <exec> 08└─Plenty of people do this stuff for free. But it looks like someone got paid a lot of money for what could have been days or hours of work.
[18:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exhibition at Morgan Library in New York of Original JRR Tolkien Illustrations - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:17] <exec> 08└─I got to see it MANY years ago. No photograph can do justice to it. The thickness and iridescence of the paint is amazing.
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[19:34:18] <exec> 08└─It even helpfully refers to the ole idiot-tube right in the name.
[19:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:19] <exec> 08└─If your post was a youtube video, it would have been similarly affected. That's because you are stretching the truth to the breaking point just to satisfy your narrative. Youtube is not blocking access to anything. If you really want to watch your conspiracy and anti-vax videos, they're still there....
[19:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:22] <exec> 08└─Are you against platforms trying to exercise a measure of control for things they might not like on their platform? I am conflicted about it. I would rather they not have to restrict anything. In principle. In practice, I am of the opinion that social media may be tearing apart the fabric of society...
[19:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:24] <exec> 08└─I don't particularly care what a company chooses to do with their platform, but I also don't have to continue to use their platform. I was recently watching a Scott Adams video where he talked with someone about various ways the climate can be effected. Scott was playing the part of AGW advocate and...
[19:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:26] <exec> 08└─The real alt-right just wants to put the USA first, but the political competition (religious right, corporate globalist libertarian right, and all kinds of left) don't want the threat of that winning message. The solution for them is two-fold. First, smear the alt-right unjustly, by labeling all sor...
[19:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:28] <exec> 08└─s-t-f-u!
[19:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:31] <exec> 08└─yeah, richard spencer is an agent of some kind and isn't even where he's said to be politically. the fake news are these media whore propaganda platforms.
[19:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:33] <exec> 08└─It might be a step in the right direction if we were to extend anti-libel laws to include provably false information that doesn't specifically target an individual. Of course we'd probably still be running into the same problems with standing and proof-of-harm that makes it basically impossible to (...
[19:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:35] <exec> 08└─I've never looked at videos like this, and I don't think any were recommended to me by YouTube. So where do I fit in the scheme of things?
[19:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:38] <exec> 08└─Are you against platforms trying to exercise a measure of control for things they might not like on their platform?
[19:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:40] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is a smear. I have been walking those paths and listening to those people for the last three years. They are not crazy and they are not stupid. They're quite intelligent and make good arguments. I often disagree with them, but the way Google and others are de-platforming them makes me angry...
[19:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:42] <exec> 08└─Well, if you've got a AGW denier "playing the part of AGW advocate", then it's almost by definition fake news, is it not? At best they're going to misrepresent the arguments due to ignorance, and at worst via intentional deception.
[19:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:44] <exec> 08└─They're not suppressing speech - the videos are still available if you care to look for them. They're just no longer actively *promoting* them via their recommendation engine.
[19:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:47] <exec> 08└─I have also noticed that starting last week videos from those kinds of voices have started glitching, freezing, and crashing. It's not 100%, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to write a probability function to cause those problems with enough randomness to create plausible deniability....
[19:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:49] <exec> 08└─Beauty is they already have those papers, about conspiracies, anti-vax etc, lined up for the next conference.
[19:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:51] <exec> 08└─lololol cognitive dissonance laid bare! nice point.
[19:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:53] <exec> 08└─You're normal
[19:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:56] <exec> 08└─It is suppression. Douglas Adams had a brilliant bit about the notice for the demolition of Arthur Dent's house being in a sub-basement of the council building behind a door that said, "Beware of Cheetah." This is a less comical version of that. Instead of neutrally recommending content based on wha...
[19:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:58] <exec> 08└─Welcome to capitalism. Deplatforming is well within Alphabet DBA Google's rights. They own the platform. If the platform doesn't have the content you want, it's up to you to move to a different platform. Additionally, a private server (platform) can be had from Linode for as little as $20/month. The...
[19:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:00] <exec> 08└─Haha! What's truly lololol is that this IS an aristarchus sub! D'oh!
[19:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:15] <exec> 08└─Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Teutonic Collisions
[19:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:16] <exec> 08└─ugh
[19:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:31] <exec> 08└─I think I have a decent working knowledge of the text of the Bible. playing god with genetics and creating the dinosaurs
[19:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:32] <exec> 08└─If Mammoth DNA is going to activate due to human meddling, I would rather it be in Easter Eggs than in Mouse Eggs.
[19:36:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:35] <exec> 08└─Or Obama, prior to 2016.
[19:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:37] <exec> 08└─Many dominos dies to bring us this news.
[19:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:39] <exec> 08└─Yes. That wouldn't hurt.
[19:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:41] <exec> 08└─When people enter your country to live and work it is not an invasion.
[19:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:43] <exec> 08└─forgot the </sarcasm> tag..
[19:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:46] <exec> 08└─forgot the </sarcasm> tag..
[19:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:48] <exec> 08└─[...] Are they utterly overwhelming the local police forces and military to the point where they can't function in an area formerly under the control of the United States? [...]
[19:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:50] <exec> 08└─anti trump protestors is one thing, but investigating who is organizing to bring in illegal immigrants is totally the fucking job of the DHS, assuming the dept. exists in the first place.
[19:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:52] <exec> 08└─yes it is. just because they are not using organized violence doesn't mean they were invited, dumb fucker.
[19:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:54] <exec> 08└─dude you can't know any of that even from the people living next door to you
[19:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth Biosciences has Exclusive License for Cas14 Protein from University of California, Berkeley - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:08] <exec> 08└─They will make some convoluted argument that they are not patenting nature. They are patenting the techniques and tools and anything else not nailed down, that comes anywhere close to how they achieved their results. But the results themselves are not patented. Unless they can get away with that too...
[19:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:27] <exec> 08└─Linux and Erik Estrada is an unbeatable combination!
[19:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:28] <exec> 08└─Oh my. Groan. grown
[19:37:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 597 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:49] <exec> 08└─Just to correct the summary, the neutrons are obviously NOT cosmic rays. Free neutrons have a half life of only about 10 minutes before decaying into hydrogen, and reach energies above 20MeV when traveling at relativistic velocities that would slow their local time significantly. Therefore, these ne...
[19:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:49] <exec> 08└─learn to paint, they said, the car factory is a nice place, they said.
[19:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meta: Site Certificates Updated - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:29] <exec> 08└─If you put all the hostnames that just beryllium uses in one cert, you have to make more than one webserver with many different vhosts
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[20:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:11] <exec> 08└─Wonder if Trump will ever say RADICAL RIGHTWING TERRORIST?
[20:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:13] <exec> 08└─“You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough peo...
[20:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:15] <exec> 08└─Kebab Removed https://www.reuters.com [reuters.com] https://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com]
[20:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:17] <exec> 08└─The killer used a maximum level of internet culture references and claimed "right-wing" motives. But his actions didn't help his alleged side, so who was he working for? And where do you get illegal guns in NZ? No one is crazy. There is always a reason.
[20:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:20] <exec> 08└─spoken like a true crazy person...
[20:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:22] <exec> 08└─From the shooters manifesto: Were/are you "right wing"? Depending on the definition, sure. Were/are you "left wing"? Depending on the definition, sure. Were/are you a socialist? Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their inten...
[20:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:24] <exec> 08└─So the guy was very confused and post-truthy, what a surprise.
[20:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:26] <exec> 08└─Just standard conspiracy theory thinking.
[20:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:29] <exec> 08└─His description of Trump: " a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose"
[20:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:31] <exec> 08└─It's about 55,000 killed in Muslim attacks every year. We'd need 3 of these attacks every day to even up the rate, and then we'd still need to make up for the previous 1300 years. Also, since Muslims are now supposedly the left (got a couple in congress even), I see you've given up on LGBT rights an...
[20:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:02] <exec> 08└─Youtube only ever recommends music to me. Then again, I don't really use it for other purposes. And while I'm all for freedom of expression, that includes the right of private organizations to modulate its own expression. As long as it's not mandated by the government, it's not censorship -- it's th...
[20:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:04] <exec> 08└─"Recommended" doesn't mean YouTube endorses the video. It just means based on what a user has searched for and watched before the videos are 'recommended' as being related to that type of content, and/or watched by other users who also watched the videos that user has watched. Dropping obviously rel...
[20:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 1078 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:06] <exec> 08└─The problem with this nonsensical theory is that it's not an association, but a direct connection. The "alt-right" correctly realized that correctly calling themselves Neo-Nazi (from hence much of their ideology) would have a negative marketing effect. Back in the 90s, Umberto Eco published an essay...
[20:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:08] <exec> 08└─And while I'm all for freedom of expression, that includes the right of private organizations to modulate its own expression. As long as it's not mandated by the government, it's not censorship -- it's the exercise of free speech. And if you object to that exercise you can vote with your feet and yo...
[20:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:10] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I must disagree. The entire concept of a recommendation engine is to steer what people watch. The "neutral" form tries to steer them towards things they're more likely to sit through the ads for. A more socially responsible version will also try to steer them away from provably false content...
[20:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:12] <exec> 08└─actually endorsing what they have to say, which is what the 'recommended' feed was effectively doing.
[20:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:15] <exec> 08└─Genocide has always followed a predictable pattern, and it always start with speech of a particular kind. The form of that speech is readily identifiable. So it's not trying to silence what "we don't like", it's trying to silence people advocating allowing genocide to become a policy topic. Genocide...
[20:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 1372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:17] <exec> 08└─Phone Book? What? I know you live in Crooklyn. I live in the city. so I know that NY Telephone/Nynex/Bell Atlantic/Verizon/whatever those scumbags are calling themselves these days stopped distributing those more than ten years ago. I just looked myself up on whitepages.com and I'm there. My address...
[20:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:19] <exec> 08└─Youtube and it's parent Google have decided that they are the gatekeepers
[20:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:21] <exec> 08└─You don't say!
[20:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 5355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:23] <exec> 08└─De-platforming is fake news, or essentially meaningless. It's difficult for people to put what the Internet is into perspective. Google is at most providing what amounts to private property whereby people can "visit" and peruse content. Just like a 7-11 can refuse service with "No shoes, no shirt, n...
[20:35:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 234 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:47] <exec> 08└─Whatever else did they expect? That poor DNA, waits and waits for millennia, only to be put in a mouse? It's like putting my AI to sleep() and it being woken up by systemd. Do you think I wouldn't scream myself to death? Wouldn't you?
[20:36:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 735 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:09] <exec> 08└─The simple fact is that the US "national security" agencies have never been politically neutral organizations, nor have they ever been concerned with whether their actions are legal. They have no particular interest in protecting American civilians - their actual goals are, in rough order: 1. Protec...
[20:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 3019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:07] <exec> 08└─"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United Stat...
[20:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:09] <exec> 08└─While we’re there, they should weigh up the whole population and kick out the bottom X percent irrespective of citizenship. That would be merit based without the grandfathering in of all the lazy fat ‘American’ assholes that are a drain on society.
[20:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 1029 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:11] <exec> 08└─How would a wall stop smugglers? Why wouldn't the people smugglers still smuggle people to the border and supply people with chutes and ladders? You would still need to staff the border the same way to catch everyone on the U.S. side of this wall you propose. Now you've spent money on a wall that...
[20:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:13] <exec> 08└─Sadly these current news don't come a surprise. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:15] <exec> 08└─sorry. i'm tired. i shall hope that the grues walk past you.
[20:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:49] <exec> 08└─i was glad to hear about this recently. open hardware (or at least trustable) is needed yesterday!
[20:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux Foundation and RISC-V Proponents Launch CHIPS Alliance - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:51] <exec> 08└─Looks like the TAPR and OHL both require reciprocity. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] "Viral" is probably not a very good term because the copyleft clauses are only triggered by somebody choosing to distribute derivatives.
[20:38:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 1634 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:14] <exec> 08└─You're being funny, but you're also advancing one of the great misunderstandings about CO2. Generally speaking ecological CO2 such as produced when breathing, burning wood, or brewing alcohol isn't a problem - the planet has a nice relatively stable ecological carbon cycle that circulates carbon bet...
[20:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:45] <exec> 08└─"I'm sorry, we have to perform this exam on *all* fliers selected for enhanced screening. If you do not present them for our inspection, ma'am, we will require that customs impound you until we can locate and inspect them." "Oh, uh ... I left them at home. They're ... on my dog!" "Dog ... dog ... ok...
[20:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:47] <exec> 08└─In theory the amount of biomass could grow to absorb it, but we don't see that happening.
[20:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:49] <exec> 08└─Thank you. I couldn't have even estimated that.
[20:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:51] <exec> 08└─You're being funny, but you're also advancing one of the great misunderstandings about CO2.
[20:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:20] <exec> 08└─OK. So it could paint in the style of Pollock. But Pollock was only partially about his style...from his point of view, perhaps not even partially, but from someone who doesn't understand him, that's all they see. Somehow Pollock was encoding some meaning into his work. I don't understand it, but I...
[20:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:22] <exec> 08└─what, bots have erections now? what will they think of next?
[20:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:24] <exec> 08└─> there's a story about Picasso Currently reading Norman Mailer's "Portrait of Picasso as a young man" -- good fun read, with many photos of his works in the context of his friends and lovers at the time they were painted. Picasso started painting very young, and early on learned to work very fast,...
[20:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:17] <exec> 08└─I bet techy people could make it change sooner if desired -- add a one-click 'Sue this website' button to the plugin, have it forward to a handful of lawyers familiar with ADA enforcement, and social-mediasize it with the disabled community. The threat alone might be enough to make this start changi...
[20:40:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:18] <exec> 08└─A better comparison would be: ``What if I told you that x% of people can't use 70% of bridges easily and y% can't practically use them.''
[20:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What’s One Thing I Wish I Understood Better About Web Accessibility? - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:20] <exec> 08└─Let's start here [youtube.com] and work our way forward.
[20:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:44] <exec> 08└─hmm, i want one of those!
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[21:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:28] <exec> 08└─This guy is basically Manson. "This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines,"
[21:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:30] <exec> 08└─Ask Andrew Yang [thedailybeast.com] how he feels about that.
[21:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:32] <exec> 08└─Conservative Candace Owens ‘influenced me above all’: New Zealand gunman [nypost.com] Conservative commentator Candace Owens was the biggest influence on the white supremacist who slaughtered 49 worshipers in two New Zealand mosques, he claims in his rambling manifesto.
[21:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:34] <exec> 08└─This has CIA all over it... right down to the lone gunman.
[21:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:37] <exec> 08└─This guy is basically Manson.
[21:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:39] <exec> 08└─No one is crazy.
[21:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:41] <exec> 08└─He self-identified as an "eco-fascist". Fascism grew from Marxism, that is not "post-truth" it is hard, indisputable fact.
[21:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:44] <exec> 08└─A black conservative influenced a psychopathic white supremacist? Think about why he name checked her - you're being played.
[21:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:46] <exec> 08└─So he actually isn't like Manson at all.
[21:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:48] <exec> 08└─He's conservative and he likes Trump. He's a rightwing terrorist, THE END. Why are there never any leftwing terrorists, I wonder...
[21:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:50] <exec> 08└─As all good nutjubs he needs a manifesto. As far as recent once go his ain't bad, it's fairly short and he seem to be somewhat on point and it doesn't appear to be a massive cut-n-paste-job like the one that Breivik produced as he tries to explain his world views and what needs to be done according...
[21:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:53] <exec> 08└─The first nutjob didn't succeed so what makes you think nutjub number two is going to do better? But as previously noted this guy isn't Manson on the basis of Manson not actually doing the deed himself, if there is a Manson that would be the guy, if there is one, that directed this guy to go and kil...
[21:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:55] <exec> 08└─Editing. In the last few years I've been ignoring everything written about writings, and just reading the writings myself. Anyway, entire quote: "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no."
[21:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:57] <exec> 08└─For some reason, it seems off the table to even try to discuss any kind of common sense measures. Clearly there are individuals who should not have guns. When Columbine school shooting happened, we were promised "This will never happen again" but how many school shootings have there been? And other...
[21:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:00] <exec> 08└─You read the news reports about the manifesto, not the manifesto itself.
[21:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:02] <exec> 08└─He raises some interesting points that are well supported by historical precedents, but it's hard to take him seriously when he's in the PewDiePie camp.
[21:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:04] <exec> 08└─Maybe leftists don't have a culture of target practice? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:06] <exec> 08└─It's about 55,000 killed in Muslim attacks every year.
[21:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:09] <exec> 08└─Dude, no one in New Zealand is allowed to have guns and this tragedy still happened. If those Muslims had been carrying, the death toll would have been a lot lower. Arm the Muslims now!
[21:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:11] <exec> 08└─Informative? Our resident DNC Donor left out salient details that don't fit his narrative. Here's the full description: As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.
[21:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:13] <exec> 08└─Wonder if Trump will ever say RADICAL RIGHTWING TERRORIST?
[21:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:15] <exec> 08└─I've read a few manifestos before. It seems that invariably, the press describes them as "rambling" even if not actually the case.
[21:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:17] <exec> 08└─I would agree that there are interesting aspects in it. If anything really drags it down it's his little Q&A session, I assume he is trying to be funny or just taking the piss out of people alternatively he is trying to speak with his target audience (young people and internet trolls?). It seems in...
[21:35:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 256 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:26] <exec> 08└─Alt-right, or whatever - Youtube and it's parent Google have decided that they are the gatekeepers. They will decide what is fit for the public to see. "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
[21:35:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilsa [6082] 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 559 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:31] <exec> 08└─If your post was a youtube video, it would have been similarly affected. That's because you are stretching the truth to the breaking point just to satisfy your narrative. Youtube is not blocking access to anything. If you really want to watch your conspiracy and anti-vax videos, they're still there....
[21:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:01] <exec> 08└─Fuck all of this, can't somebody just host content who only cares about serving their users? But what if somebody is wrong! Won't somebody think of the morons‽
[21:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:02] <exec> 08└─Nazi policy is to control industry via the government, ban guns, support abortion... does that really sound like the right? You're just mixing things up, probably on purpose. Surprise me: admit you were wrong.
[21:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:05] <exec> 08└─endorse [merriam-webster.com] : to approve openly endorse an idea especially : to express support or approval of publicly and definitely endorse a mayoral candidate b : to recommend (something, such as a product or service) usually for financial compensation
[21:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:07] <exec> 08└─Fuck all of this, can't somebody just host content who only cares about serving their users?
[21:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 1054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:09] <exec> 08└─You seem to have written this assuming nobody will ever be mistaken about whether something is genocide or not, the folks who believe in 'white genocide' are a real counterexample in today's society of why people need to be willing to consider that what they currently view as genocide (i.e. mass imm...
[21:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:11] <exec> 08└─A p2p www replacement would be a helluva thing to see.
[21:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:14] <exec> 08└─many churches would be up in arms about having to include "scientific evidence refutes this" disclaimers on so very much of their material.
[21:36:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:16] <exec> 08└─Check out the original sub, that's some serious snark, there. Right next to the alt-right video.
[21:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:18] <exec> 08└─They are not crazy and they are not stupid.
[21:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:20] <exec> 08└─Hey, AC! Prof. AC here! Bring your weak little mind into my classroom, and I will have you indoctrinated before you can recite π! First, I will display the instruments of indoctrination. Words, many words, words representing ideas, ideas that are the material of reasoning. Then I will require you t...
[21:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Major Ice Ages may be Caused by Tectonic Collisions - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:37] <exec> 08└─I knew scientists would come up with a solution.
[21:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:53] <exec> 08└─-squints- Where exactly did they mention imaginary sky fairies? I need to know so I can get properly pissed off.
[21:38:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:12] <exec> 08└─I mean, we do call them "The Fourth Estate,"
[21:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 1703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:13] <exec> 08└─You stop smugglers by making it unprofitable for them. You stop illegals by enforcing police surveillance of where you find them: at work sites. Less illegals means less people smugglers. Give large rewards to people who snitch on employers that employ illegals. Your employer will now think twice to...
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[21:38:16] <exec> 08└─you can use mine, I had one too many.
[21:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:18] <exec> 08└─I remember when George Soros had a project to ask Western European universities to send old typewriters and stencil machines to the students in Timişoara, after the dictator's death. I can really not imagine Rupert Murdoch doing something like that, ever. To enable journalism by people not under yo...
[21:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Neutrons Detected on Commercial Airplane Flights - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:51] <exec> 08└─"If you do not present them for our inspection, ma'am, we will require that customs impound you until we can locate and inspect them."
[21:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The AI-Art Gold Rush Is Here - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:24] <exec> 08└─Somehow Pollock was encoding some meaning into his work.
[21:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03jlv [3756] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Nobody" Wants SSDs with Over 16 TB of Storage? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:30] <exec> 08└─"Nobody wants hard drives with over 25GB of storage" - 20 years ago After all, how are you going to back that up?
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[22:34:15] <exec> 08└─GEOS was great on my Commodore 64. And now it's finally out in the world again. HOORAY!
[22:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DOS Shell PC/GEOS Released as Open Source, Active Development Restarting - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:17] <exec> 08└─'member Quantum Link & Club Caribe?
[22:34:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:25] <exec> 08└─Wonder if Trump will ever say RADICAL RIGHTWING TERRORIST?
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[22:34:27] <exec> 08└─“You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough peo...
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[22:34:35] <exec> 08└─His description of Trump: " a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose"
[22:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:00] <exec> 08└─So do you think killing a bunch of innocents in New Zealand is somehow justified by the amount of people that Saudi Arabia, Iran, and a bunch of other Islamic countries kill? If not, why is that even relevant to this discussion?
[22:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:01] <exec> 08└─He's conservative and he likes Trump.
[22:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:04] <exec> 08└─Note the lack of the usual suspects on this story, I guess ignoring right wing terrorism lets them continue walking the MAGA path.
[22:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:06] <exec> 08└─Didn't the second mosque shoot back? That is what heard at least, but I haven't seen that in any of the news coverage.
[22:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:08] <exec> 08└─If those Muslims had been carrying, the death toll would have been a lot lower
[22:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:10] <exec> 08└─I would say that is probably true. A possible reason could be that they are usually against the system and the press is part of the system so the press is not about to print the manifesto of some mass-murderer and at the same time tell all their readers/viewers that this guy has some solid points in...
[22:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:13] <exec> 08└─There's 1 gun for every 4 people in NZ, they don't have to be registered. In addition, there is no ban on semi-automatic weapons like in other civilized countries. I suspect that tougher gun laws will come out of this.
[22:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:15] <exec> 08└─Why are there never any leftwing terrorists, I wonder...
[22:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 1632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:17] <exec> 08└─I'll say this, terrorism has many sides. Many forms. And I'm against all forms of terrorism. The bad, and the good. The Muslim, the anti Muslim, and the everything else. We're fighting all of them, very successfully. We did Travel Ban, we cut down tremendously on the Terror Tourists coming into our...
[22:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:19] <exec> 08└─no one in New Zealand is allowed to have guns
[22:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:22] <exec> 08└─I have to say this one is. I've read Elliot Rodger's manifesto, and it was much more coherent than this piece. I was surprised that George Soros wasn't mentioned. He did talk about the "resurrected Knights Templar" and "Knight Justiciar Breivik" giving him "the blessing for this attack". MSM will be...
[22:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:24] <exec> 08└─From the manifesto: Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights in the New Zealand? The gun owners of New Zealand are a beaten, miserable bunch of baby boomers, who have long since given up the fight.When was the last time they won increased rights? Their loss was inevitable.I...
[22:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:26] <exec> 08└─"Punching a Nazi" is not terrorism, it is law enforcement. Nazis were made illegal after WWII. False equivalency, khallow, and not a very good one. Are you feeling alright?
[22:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:28] <exec> 08└─Your list is exclusively terrorism. Islam is not limited to grand scale attacks. If a Muslim decides to quietly murder somebody in a hate crime against Christianity, that doesn't count. For example, a child who gets baptized Catholic has left Islam and thus all Muslims have a religious duty to kill...
[22:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:31] <exec> 08└─Silly references to PewDiePie and Fortnite sort of seem to put him in that corner.
[22:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:33] <exec> 08└─Well thats probably because columbine happened after they banned the guns used in columbine.
[22:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:35] <exec> 08└─The terrorist has been planning this attack for four years, as stated by the terrorist.
[22:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:37] <exec> 08└─What I found very interesting is that NZ police is asking the footage of the attack not to be shared online: Police are aware there is extremely distressing footage relating to the incident in Christchurch circulating online ... We would strongly urge that the link not be shared. We are working to h...
[22:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:40] <exec> 08└─"But I have only had brief contact with Knight Justiciar Breivik, receiving a blessing for my mission after contacting his brother knights."
[22:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:42] <exec> 08└─Bullshit. People in their right minds don't do shit like this.
[22:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:44] <exec> 08└─"Punching a Nazi communist" is not terrorism, it is law enforcement.
[22:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 2785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:46] <exec> 08└─Time Zone is incredible. One of the most complicated things Man has ever devised. In my Time Zone, it's now Friday. March 15. And you're quoting my exclusive interview with Breitbart, which I gave on Monday (my time). March 11. Very successful interview, they did many stories from that one. Which, b...
[22:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:49] <exec> 08└─Nazis are only illegal in Germany dumbass. In America we have freedom of speech (for now)
[22:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:51] <exec> 08└─Bingo.
[22:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:53] <exec> 08└─I understood out of that, that he contacted some people who called themselves the Knights Templar, who put him in contact with Breivik, and the two then phoned/wrote each other. Norway may have been honoring Breivik's (and this guy's) privacy, but intelligence agencies are probably going to have som...
[22:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:56] <exec> 08└─You still don't have any citation for your number. Nor what your "killed by Muslims" means. Hey, look, Brazil is mostly Catholic, I bet from the 56,101 killings in 2017 at least 50,000 were "killed by Christians" [wikipedia.org]. I wonder what "killed by Christians" number would be worldwide.
[22:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:58] <exec> 08└─https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47584603 [bbc.com] You are fucking lousy at spreading fake news. But then not telling the truth does not seem to stop Faux News, Bretfart, nor our wacky POTUS.
[22:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:00] <exec> 08└─Fired back in self defense... but missed. We should sign Muslims up for target practice courses. Of course that might backfire next time one of those camel-fuckers decides to go jihadi on the USA. Maybe the easiest solution is to move them all back to Saudi Arabia.
[22:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:02] <exec> 08└─Bingo.
[22:36:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:55] <exec> 08└─actually endorsing what they have to say
[22:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:56] <exec> 08└─which is what the 'recommended' feed was effectively doing.
[22:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:58] <exec> 08└─I guess that means you'll be voting for the candidate that wants to break up these gatekeepers. Sen Warren will appreciate your support.
[22:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:00] <exec> 08└─Not promoting is not the same as suppression. Are grocery stores suppressing the products that they don't put at the end of the aisle but keep on the shelves? If so, then what the fuck would you call actively taking product off the shelf?
[22:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:03] <exec> 08└─Free Speech isn't the first amendment to your constitution.
[22:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:36] <exec> 08└─I have already commented about this but the flood is fascinating. The shape of the continents today is one of a smaller sphere broken up by expansion [youtube.com] . A smaller sphere would spin faster to conserve momentum so people would more easily get to mathusalem-tier ages because there would be...
[22:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mammoth DNA Activates Briefly in Mouse Eggs - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:37] <exec> 08└─You cannot meddle in a transcendent god's domain any more that donkey kong can get you a beer.
[22:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aod [7310] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Toyota to Design Japanese Moon Rover - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:26] <exec> 08└─If is the same team that designed the Hilux Pickup, it will last till next century
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[23:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Model Y Will be a Test of Tesla's Popularity - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:13] <exec> 08└─Good luck getting warranty service after that.
[23:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Model Y Will be a Test of Tesla's Popularity - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:14] <exec> 08└─A favorite trick for car thieves is to break the triangular back window in the S which isn't alarmed. If that happens, it's a $1200 repair. The sweet smell of Musk while being boned.
[23:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DOS Shell PC/GEOS Released as Open Source, Active Development Restarting - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:24] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(16-bit_operating_system) [wikipedia.org] I wonder if the sucker run on FreeDOS?
[23:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DOS Shell PC/GEOS Released as Open Source, Active Development Restarting - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:26] <exec> 08└─I had an autoexec.bat and config.sys for 2-3 games, plus one for work (yeah, I worked from home fairly often in the 80s). The work one just made a big ramdisk, copied the source code from floppies to the ramdisk, and my makefile copied files back to the disk after a successful compilation. I hate to...
[23:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:36] <exec> 08└─That comment is not insightful. I won't feel the slightest twinge of sympathy for a Nazi getting punched, but I won't feel any guilt for the puncher to get charged with assault. Do not normalize violence as a means of handling arguments, no matter how shitty the other person is.
[23:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:38] <exec> 08└─From the shooters manifesto:...
[23:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:40] <exec> 08└─And water is not wet, the pope does not wear a funny hat and bears don't shit in the woods ... other hard, indisputable facts.
[23:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:42] <exec> 08└─You're quoting Brenton Tarrant Great Replacement Manifesto, from Scribd. Very interesting reading, is it very interesting? That one is something I haven't read yet. But, I read what the Washington Times said about it. And they had a little bit more of a quote than what you put. Otherwise known as, c...
[23:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:44] <exec> 08└─He's a rightwing terrorist, THE END.
[23:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:46] <exec> 08└─It's not torture it's ... ENHANCED INTERROGATION!!1
[23:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:49] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what radical, right/left wing or even means.
[23:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:51] <exec> 08└─That's what he just said.
[23:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:53] <exec> 08└─I have a message for NZ police, when it comes to this narrow issue: fuck you.
[23:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:56] <exec> 08└─And what do you think the difference is?
[23:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:58] <exec> 08└─She said it too.
[23:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:00] <exec> 08└─In America we have freedom of speech (for now)
[23:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:03] <exec> 08└─Muslims killed in Christchurch. Christ... Church... wtf were Mohammed fanboys doing there?
[23:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 0649 Dead in Christchurch, New Zealand Terror Attack - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:05] <exec> 08└─And water is not wet, the pope does not wear a funny hat and bears don't shit in the woods ... other hard, indisputable facts.
[23:36:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 310 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:39] <exec> 08└─And while I'm all for freedom of expression, that includes the right of private organizations to modulate its own expression. As long as it's not mandated by the government, it's not censorship -- it's the exercise of free speech. And if you object to that exercise you can vote with your feet and yo...
[23:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:03] <exec> 08└─You are far too optimistic, the world isn't so convenient as to make critically important facts obvious. Indeed the world hardly seems to care how important something is to us when providing (or not) evidence for it. Most people aren't nonracist because they've read the papers proving it, they're no...
[23:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube Recommendations for 'Alt-Right' Videos have Dropped Dramatically, Study Shows - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:04] <exec> 08└─But that's not at all what's happening. Like your phone number, the content is still there if you go looking for it, they're just no longer recommending it. It's more like if the phone book publisher refused to sell you a front-page ad, or UPS refused to hand out fliers advertising your company to t...
[23:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:02] <exec> 08└─Wow. Troll? The OP stated only the facts: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[23:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:03] <exec> 08└─What have the Romans ever done for us?
[23:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Homeland Security’s Intelligence Overreach: Two Cases Illustrate Risks to Civil Society - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:06] <exec> 08└─TL;DR: The news media isn't engaged in any serious attempt to be a "4th estate." They're just another commercial entity, and a particularly slimy one, at that.
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