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[00:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:51] <exec> 08└─I have seen enough catfish to know where this is going.
[00:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:03] <exec> 08└─Santa Claus' sleigh?
[00:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:04] <exec> 08└─Pretty soon they're going to be making all our astronomical discoveries, and we're going to be washing their laundry.
[00:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:06] <exec> 08└─Why would the Enterprise transmit '6EQUJ5' ?
[00:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:08] <exec> 08└─The Signal was a trial TEST on reciprocal sagacity of earthlings, and its results – on the ready for Contact.
[00:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:11] <exec> 08└─They've been making all the medical discoveries recently too. Not kidding that I quit due to it being overrun BS a few years ago (surely I am not alone in reading the signs) and ever since it is over 80% Chinese authors on that specific topic. Just when you thought it couldn't continue...
[00:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:10] <exec> 08└─Here's 30 https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[00:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:12] <exec> 08└─If you really did what you said, I simultaneously pity and admire you. Putting ourselves through that kind of stress generally isn't worthwhile. You're a drop in the bucket. Plip! Yes, most people who accumulate power stay within the system, but they don't *all* work the same way (Soros vs. Koch) an...
[00:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:14] <exec> 08└─practices that would never fly in any other industry.
[00:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:16] <exec> 08└─If you've got engineering buddies, go for a trebuchet, they're much more interesting ;)
[00:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:18] <exec> 08└─free-market capitalism is not practiced in the US
[00:35:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Feel the Beep: This Album is Played Entirely on a PC Motherboard Speaker - 612 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:53] <exec> 08└─Back in the day, goofing around on an aging IBM PC, I figured out how to not only get single beeps out but create the illusion of chords by rapidly switching between the notes in the chord. So if you wanted C,E,G at the same time, you'd work out the frequencies for C, E, and G, and then do each one...
[00:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fortnite Killer? Apex Legends Notches 10 Million Players in Three Days - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:30] <exec> 08└─Open Source Ruined My Life
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[01:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:55] <exec> 08└─You say that like a man who has never had a parasite^wpartner of the opposite sex.
[01:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:56] <exec> 08└─If males have impressive tentacles, females will see them as high quality partners.
[01:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:58] <exec> 08└─Torches would make ... Catfish and Calamari. Catamari? Calafish?
[01:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:00] <exec> 08└─But the japanese knew
[01:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:03] <exec> 08└─"Yes," replied Bonita Hatcher. We were wed on July 22, 2000 in Pippy Park, in St. John's Newfoundland. Your. Move.
[01:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:05] <exec> 08└─You probably just hadn't found the right one [fandom.com] yet. Don't worry, there's lots ... never mind.
[01:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:21] <exec> 08└─Given it's orbit is in a different plane to the planets i.e. it's vertical, the chance of collision is probably far far less than if it were in the same plane. It probably doesn't even cross either planet's orbit due to the inclination of it's own orbit.
[01:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:22] <exec> 08└─It was the black knight satellite: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[01:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:28] <exec> 08└─pathetic little people who aspire to little more than to be rich men's poodles
[01:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:29] <exec> 08└─Tell that to the Gaslighting Obstructing and Projecting peeps
[01:39:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fortnite Killer? Apex Legends Notches 10 Million Players in Three Days - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:42] <exec> 08└─Try gEdit from the first few builds of Slackware that bundled it. I rest my case.
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[02:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:49] <exec> 08└─Could be an incoming Russian ICBM.
[02:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:51] <exec> 08└─https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/why-is-mars-sometimes-bright-and-sometimes-faint [earthsky.org]
[02:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:06] <exec> 08└─My condolences. Your point?
[02:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:07] <exec> 08└─Three seasons? STAR TREK only got three seasons.
[02:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:10] <exec> 08└─Oh I'm sorry I wasn't trying to be rude. Your. Point?
[02:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:12] <exec> 08└─Then the villagers with the pitchforks and torches.
[02:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06AT&T Sued by Sprint, Must Defend Decision to Tell Users That 4G is “5G E” - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:55] <exec> 08└─When AT&T calls, they always talk that way. No one knows what they are saying. I thought it went without saying that when AT&T says anything, consider the source. Just saying what my personal take on that company.
[02:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06AT&T Sued by Sprint, Must Defend Decision to Tell Users That 4G is “5G E” - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:56] <exec> 08└─Or when some old goat hawks funeral insurance and reverse mortgages to seniors.
[02:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Sued by Sprint, Must Defend Decision to Tell Users That 4G is “5G E” - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:59] <exec> 08└─Yes, those are shitty too, but at least the insurance guys are actually selling a product. The farming shills and the fishing industry liers are trying to convince people that black is white. It's working too.
[02:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 3146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:38] <exec> 08└─I fought the hospital for a year over that bill. Demanded the line item break down. Questioned their numbers, the items, the insurance adjustments. The bill just seemed too high. Their fantasy list price was $21k. Insurance adjusted it to about $4k, and I was on the hook for the entire amount thanks...
[02:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:40] <exec> 08└─Lots of places, lifetimes are getting shorter now. It is also at least partially attributable to drug companies. Drug company pushes opiate, often with lies about safety, patient gets hooked, can't get legal opiate, switches to black market and gets shitty opiate that kills them.
[02:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:42] <exec> 08└─You need somewhere to grow. Most landlords won't allow it, same with condo associations.
[02:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ubuntu Kernel Update Utility (Ukuu) Moves To A Paid Licensing Model With The Latest Release  - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:39:37] <exec> 08└─It's been awhile but there used to be a relatively easy way to make a versioned kernel deb package as well. It did mean compiling it yourself.
[02:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ubuntu Kernel Update Utility (Ukuu) Moves To A Paid Licensing Model With The Latest Release  - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:39:38] <exec> 08└─Sometimes people want the latest or newer (beta) and Ubuntu etc are months or more behind?
[02:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fortnite Killer? Apex Legends Notches 10 Million Players in Three Days - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:01] <exec> 08└─Try gEdit from the first few builds of Slackware that bundled it.
[02:40:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fortnite Killer? Apex Legends Notches 10 Million Players in Three Days - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:02] <exec> 08└─"Release Early, Release Often" is The Problem, not The Solution. I contribute to Open Source, but before I submit _any_ of my patches, I _test_ them, for example with Valgrind [valgrind.org]. Your. Move. Sigh. Kids These Days.
[02:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson to Become the First U.S. Drugmaker to List Drug Prices in TV Commercials - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:29] <exec> 08└─No, I don't have them. I've slain all my dragons, laid my ghosts to rest, and defeated all my enemies. Thank you for your interest though.
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[03:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:51] <exec> 08└─I can't agree more with the premise behind TFA. Some of the interface elements within iOS now are so pared back, they may as well be hidden. I was using the 'Share' popup screen in iOS' "News" app for a couple of months before realising that the options presented on the screen are actually part of a...
[03:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:52] <exec> 08└─You say that like it's a bad thing.
[03:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:54] <exec> 08└─I hope the moron who invented the flat BS dies in hellfire. I have an Asus tablet running Android 4.2, they never updated it past that, it was a Nexus 7 clone with SD card slot. Everything on it is clear and readable, menus are easily distinguishable. Total Commander are icons can't be confused. On...
[03:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:04] <exec> 08└─How do people using glasses use telescopres? I used to eyball the location then point the scope, but if I need to take my glasses off this doesn't seem to work. Then again this is a nerd hobby so I must be missing something. So what is the best eye-glasses - astronomy method you know?
[03:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:06] <exec> 08└─***\Mods please delete or mod down the typo-filled post above. /*** How do people using glasses use telescopes? I used to eyeball the location then point the scope, but if I need to take my glasses off this doesn't seem to work. Then again this is a nerd hobby so I must be missing something. So what...
[03:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:24] <exec> 08└─Good Lord. That might be the strangest link I have clicked on today. Thanks.
[03:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:26] <exec> 08└─I didn't realize you meant no offense. My point is that _women_ are into me too. I am Bisexual, and came out to Bonita very early on when we were just dating. She was _completely_ cool about it; all she asked was that I remain faithful to her, which I did for the entire eleven years she and I were t...
[03:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:28] <exec> 08└─I blame TMB. I suspect he is doing more than Noodling those catfish! Miscegenation!! Oh, Lordy!
[03:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:57] <exec> 08└─I was thinking about countries with proper healthcare, not that ridiculous cash-grab you guys suffer with in the US.
[03:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:59] <exec> 08└─When you say "lots of places" and "opiates" you're talking about "lots of places in the US" because you have the worst possible health system. As far as I can tell, no other first-world country has the opiate problem you guys have, and we also have proper taxpayer funded healthcare. Maybe not lett...
[03:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:01] <exec> 08└─You might be interested to know that Andrew Wakefield lied about that and was struck off.
[03:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:03] <exec> 08└─proper healthcare
[03:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:05] <exec> 08└─Actually I was including parts of Canada, BC in particular where the opiate crisis has set back the average males lifetime length prediction slightly. [url:https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bc+opioid+crisis]
[03:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Montana Cat Lives after Being Frozen - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:04] <exec> 08└─The temperature reading really depends on where the thermometer is inserted. I can attest that sometimes getting a reading from a cat is difficult to say the least, they are all squirms and scratches all of a sudden when they work out what you want to do. *sips coffee*
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[04:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 1703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:54] <exec> 08└─My friend's first job out of Caltech was to work on Mentor Graphics' [mentor.com] Electronic Design Automation suite. At the time it was written in PASCAL and full of Apollo-specific code. Rather than use p2c - which in my own experience while the C was largely unreadable, the accuracy of the transl...
[04:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:55] <exec> 08└─example? I'm too lazy
[04:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:58] <exec> 08└─Making text hard to read makes the text harder to read. Disguising elements by not distinguishing them makes it hard to discern selectable and editable things from static elements. Hiding features and controls makes it hard to discover them. Grass is green. Water is wet. Today's UI designers need to...
[04:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:00] <exec> 08└─on one hand, simple can mean clean. On the other, eventually, simple removes everything useful, so users end up either pressing/clicking/poking everywhere to try and make something work, OR they find work-arounds of varying levels of technology (most recent example: Screen shots of a status page to...
[04:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:02] <exec> 08└─Despite these limitations flat design is becoming more and more common, and criticism of experts in HCI and usability is generally ignored by the software industry and graphic designers.
[04:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ken_g6 [3706] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:04] <exec> 08└─Flat design is a style of interface design emphasizing minimum use of stylistic elements that give the illusion of three dimensions (such as the use of drop shadows, gradients or textures) and is focused on a minimalist use of simple elements, typography and flat colors.
[04:35:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 282 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:33] <exec> 08└─Oh yes, highly illegal, and unethical, and immoral. But the medical industry abuses the high esteem the public has for medicine to get away with price gouging, price fixing, kickbacks, bribery, and other corrupt and monopolistic practices that would never fly in any other industry.
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[05:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:52] <exec> 08└─This is about taxing businesses that lay down asphalt parking lots so large that they overload the sewage system. In other words, it's about taxing companies that externalize the problem they create onto the taxpaying community. The tax sounds fair to me.
[05:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03qzm [3260] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:53] <exec> 08└─And yet it will mostly be applied to private individuals, while those large business will be exempt because 'job creation'. I guess you find that fair?
[05:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:55] <exec> 08└─This. Businesses that absolutely expect me to pay them if I want to take something from their store figure they don't need to pay if they damage the environment, film at 11.
[05:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:11] <exec> 08└─What's the definition of traditional design? Designing for functionality? No wonder then that it outperforms designing not for functionality. 1. Design something that works well. 2. Need to justify paycheck 3. Create new designs every year that by definition are not the best functioning design, sinc...
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[05:34:13] <exec> 08└─There's a good reason why iphone jailbreakers have been producing a shitload of themes and skins, most of which aimed at reproducing, with more or less success, the skeuomorphic design pre-ios 7. I recently pulled out my old iphone 4. It was still on ios 6. My God, the instant you start interacting...
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[05:34:15] <exec> 08└─Recently Google Image Search started to serve me a new style. Instead of results organized in lines, with preview opening a new horizontal block, it now shows multiple columns of different height items and the preview on the side and sticky, leaving less columns as scrollable. With first click it ev...
[05:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:17] <exec> 08└─N.S. Sherlock Institute Study ... etc ...
[05:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:19] <exec> 08└─IIRC, there are old books about design that are backed up by usability research from the 70s-80s that apparently is long forgotten, or just _flately_ ignored probably because it's old so it's useless or that people before were dumb, something close.
[05:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:21] <exec> 08└─If it is so obviously evident and evidently obvious that "flat design" is so baderest, how come we get this in all applications starting from mobile and ending with... the fucking Visual Studio?
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[06:33:47] <exec> 08└─First, it's an Airbus. That should say enough. Second, it's just useless, purely a political ploy that failed miserably. Break 'em up, and use 'em to make an artificial reef or something.The 747 is the one true jumbo and will forever remain so. The machine only gets better and better. As always, whe...
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[06:33:57] <exec> 08└─So don't grant the breaks.
[06:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:00] <exec> 08└─You weren't allowed to use rain barrels because it was feared it would deplete the groundwater. That law was rescinded.
[06:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:02] <exec> 08└─Multiple states have had issues with this. https://www.sightline.org [sightline.org] https://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] On the opposite end of the spectrum, you can get a rebate instead of a tax or ban: https://doee.dc.gov
[06:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:04] <exec> 08└─It's not even about the environment (for people who don't care about it): asphalted surfaces are known to increase the severity of floods that cost millions in property damage and inflict untold misery onto homeowners.
[06:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:26] <exec> 08└─Most likely some idiot with too much authority wanted to distinguish their product from all the rest (the ones that followed some form of design rules) so had some artsy types create something that was completely the opposite of usable but that s/he thought looked pretty. The sheep saw that and, ins...
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[06:34:27] <exec> 08└─I have been trying to figure this out for ages. To me, KDE3.5 and 4.x were the peak of design for the desktop for OSS, Windows XP and 7 for the MS side, and OS X from, say, 10.4 to 10.10 or whenever they went full flat-tard on us. I've watched the flat design take over with a mixture of disbelief an...
[06:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:29] <exec> 08└─Ah, "late.0" Good times.
[06:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:01] <exec> 08└─Speaking entirely seriously here...have you seen how real life tentacles move? They're not phallic, they're more like a cross between a finger and a tongue. I would definitely try that once, so long as whatever-it-was wasn't hurting me, infecting me, or turning me into some sort of walking brood pou...
[06:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopdevil [3356] (Score: 1) 02 - 06 Major Security Breach Found in Hospital and Supermarket Refrigeration Systems - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:49] <exec> 08└─Oddly enough, this isn't enough to protect things that have no security. Anyone that wants access will get it. Maybe don't connect it to a network, disable IO, disconnect power and do a bunch of other things that make it unusable, then you might get lucky. I don't get the "hide your head in the sand...
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[06:38:28] <exec> 08└─They should just put a shortcut to edge called internet explorer in paver if the actual internet explorer and start Fielding big requests. Anything broken by this change shouldn't exist anyway, so we all win.
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[07:33:49] <exec> 08└─The 747 is the one true jumbo and will forever remain so.... As always, when you want quality, you buy American, even now.
[07:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:50] <exec> 08└─-1 Troll Oh dear! I've offended some arrogant (probably French) Europussy! When are you damn people going to admit that you're as savage as the Romans said you were?! Ooof! They should've wiped you all out when they had the chance! *If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going!*
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[07:33:52] <exec> 08└─Airports require major rework to handle the A380, and few have done that. The wingtips stick out too far, intruding into taxiways and clipping light poles. Even the engines are out too far, sucking up off-pavement debris, but that is less of a problem. The "super" designation delays following aircra...
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[07:33:54] <exec> 08└─Fleet size is not at all comparable. There are way more 747 flying. It also isn't right to compare old times, with different navigation gear and safety protocols. The 747 even got bombed out of the sky (Libya) and shot out of the sky (USSR).
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[07:33:57] <exec> 08└─How many 747s have been wrecked since 2007? Consider that the 380 flies maybe 1/100th of the daily miles a 747 does, and also consider the type of work they do. Let's see how the scarebus does in 50 years. In fact, how much you want to bet there won't be a single A-380 in airworthy condition in 40 y...
[07:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:59] <exec> 08└─It's the most comfortable plane I've ever cattle-classed on intercontinental flights. But airlines want it to have a bigger cargo hold, and lose two engines. They just need to get certified to fly on two engines right after takeoff, and find a way to reduce the drag from the other two. I don't think...
[07:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:01] <exec> 08└─Fleet size is not at all comparable.
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[07:34:09] <exec> 08└─This is about taxing businesses that lay down asphalt parking lots so large that they overload the sewage system. In other words, it's about taxing companies that externalize the problem they create onto the taxpaying community. The tax sounds fair to me.
[07:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:17] <exec> 08└─Exactly. It's not taxing rain, its taxing "pollutant-filled stormwater runoff". Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, I shouldn't be subsidising someone else's effluent flow.
[07:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 2439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:19] <exec> 08└─AC already answered you, and provided links. My take on all of this is corruption and greed. Nowhere in the eastern US do people claim these "water rights". So far as I am aware, no place in the world does so. Maybe some desert countries (think Saharan countries) or maybe Australia. It seems a uniqu...
[07:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:21] <exec> 08└─There's that too. Asphalt doesn't absorb much rain water.
[07:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:23] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately our politicians have increased the volume of their effluent flows...
[07:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:48] <exec> 08└─Apparently, iOS is a flat design. The opposite seems to be skeuomorphic design.
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[07:34:49] <exec> 08└─the job was handed over to the artsy-fartsy glue huffers.
[07:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:51] <exec> 08└─To me, KDE3.5 and 4.x were the peak of design for the desktop for OSS, Windows XP and 7 for the MS side, and OS X from, say, 10.4 to 10.10 or whenever they went full flat-tard on us.
[07:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fennec [7053] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:34:54] <exec> 08└─I think flat design is meant to guide you and control what you're seeing. If there is nothing to "distract" you from the content you spend more time being brainwashed. If you can't find options anymore then there is no more customisation to support. It's not the interface that is being dumbed down b...
[07:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Sued by Sprint, Must Defend Decision to Tell Users That 4G is “5G E” - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:13] <exec> 08└─> if the judge doesn't smack the shit out of them we know why. Don't underestimate AT&T lawyers. "5G E" does not exist, it's not a standard, so it means whatever they decide it means. Is it stupid, misleading, and should be illegal in a country with proper consumer protections ? Sure ! Slam dunk ! W...
[07:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:02] <exec> 08└─Weirdest of all was radically different prices for the same things. For 3 $2 bags of saline solution for which the hospital charged $307 each, insurance adjusted them to $150, $64, and $27 respectively. I wanted to know how that was not a mistake, and no one could explain it. It's their business to...
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[07:39:16] <exec> 08└─LEGO my Eggo!
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[08:34:04] <exec> 08└─The 747 has been involved in 146 aviation accidents and incidents, including 61 accidents and hull losses which resulted in 3722 fatalities.
[08:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:23] <exec> 08└─there are upstream vs downstream arguments of river water all over the world. Israel is quite touchy about the Jordanian River water flow, for example. The US & Canada periodically have to negotiate about the Canadian dams on the upper Columbia River in British Columbia. And so on.
[08:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aim [6322] (Score: 2) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:02] <exec> 08└─You may want a Telrad. Look it up e.g. here [teleskop-express.de].
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[09:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Xbox Live to Connect with Android, iOS, Nintendo Switch Players - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:55] <exec> 08└─The only reason Microsoft is doing this is because they lost this generation's console war [geek.com], as how the submitter may say, "bigly." Sony ate Microsoft's lunch by selling roughly two PlayStation 4s for every Xbox One sold. It didn't help that Microsoft, for whatever reason, had few exclusiv...
[09:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:57] <exec> 08└─What's the definition of traditional design?
[09:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:58] <exec> 08└─The end of scourge design is not near. *sigh*
[09:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:00] <exec> 08└─Only if you're using a pretty peculiar scale.
[09:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:02] <exec> 08└─Where did the flat aesthetic begin? I have been trying to figure this out for ages.
[09:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:05] <exec> 08└─I had to use someone's work phone to get a number and make a call. On an iPhone. You know, I've heard so much about how great iPhones are over the years. So. I had to get help. From someone in the office. Who uses an iPhone. FFS. I have used an android and previously a Nokia for years. I almost got...
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[10:33:46] <exec> 08└─You say that like it's a bad thing.
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[10:33:54] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure it's they lost the latest battle of the console war. It seems to me that it dovetails with their strategy to get everyone running Windows even if they don't pay for it, and offer everything as SaaS. As long as people are using the Microsoft ecosystem, they're getting a slice of the p...
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[10:33:56] <exec> 08└─Wash rinse repeat for PS5
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[10:34:11] <exec> 08└─I'll tell you, Airbus has NOTHING like a 757. I bought mine from Paul Allen of Microsoft (RIP!!!). And turned it into a real beauty. Did you know my 757 was featured on the Discovery Channel as the world's most luxurious jetliner? It's bigger than Air Force One, which is a step down from this in eve...
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[10:34:41] <exec> 08└─Making text hard to read makes the text harder to read. Disguising elements by not distinguishing them makes it hard to discern selectable and editable things from static elements. Hiding features and controls makes it hard to discover them. Grass is green. Water is wet. Today's UI designers need to...
[10:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:03] <exec> 08└─The emperor gets confused by all the lines, 3D buttons, and icons. He's old, and he wants simpler things so he can tap the right thing with his trembling finger and without his reading glasses. I'm still not sure whether it's the blue blood that gives him the ability to find where things can be acti...
[10:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 2186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:05] <exec> 08└─Going back to skeuomorphic UI design, will fail. Why? - because the hardware / physical world stuff has also all gone "flat" ("but it looks good"). Of course it doesn't work so well there either... Even in hardware, buttons are not buttons any more, they are not raised, they do not move when pushed,...
[10:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:07] <exec> 08└─OTOH HCI studies start from the flawed premise that the interface should be made as clear and palatable as possible to facilitate the work of the user. I have found no evidence whatsoever that this is the case and plenty of evidence to the contrary. In fact I find a waste of time to enumerate user h...
[10:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06See Mars Near the Moon Tonight - Where to look - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:18] <exec> 08└─With all the light pollution where I'm living, I'll be lucky if I manage to see the Moon. It's been ages since I saw anything else in the night sky.
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[10:37:45] <exec> 08└─This is reminiscent of Monty Python's spring surprise [youtube.com]. I suppose this could be grounds for not granting them a patent.
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[11:34:18] <exec> 08└─The French are true fighters -- incredibly tough and patriotic like nobody else. Those are people with a lot of heart. They're a great example, and inspiration, for my military. And we're going to do a magnificent parade like they have in France. The missiles, the tanks. Millions of brave soldiers m...
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[11:34:38] <exec> 08└─Aha, but is there a "no breaks" clause in the bill? ;)
[11:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:39] <exec> 08└─https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/dams-china-turn-mekong-river-discord [yale.edu] Time to kick China out of Tibet.
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[11:35:50] <exec> 08└─Considering the easy misreading as Aristarchus kellerae, this leads to a very disturbing mental image.
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[11:38:10] <exec> 08└─Back in the days of Windows 3.1 (and, possibly, Windows 95), I remember installing a Windows driver that allowed sounds to be played through the PC speaker. I think it produced much better sounds than those in this album. A quick search found this [winworldpc.com] driver, which may or may not have b...
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[11:38:38] <exec> 08└─It's funny how all the racist comments show such a high level of stupidity. Correlation?
[11:39:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03acid andy [1683] 02 - 06Microsoft Begs You to Stop Using Internet Explorer - 224 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:08] <exec> 08└─It took over a year to get that one straightened out until the head of the department finally had his computer replaced and suddenly understood our complaints when he couldn't use the application which required pressing F12.
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[12:33:57] <exec> 08└─Isn't the whole point to lyft and uber that they don't maintain their own fleet? Is there any surcharge for these high cost specialty vehicles to incent people to obtain and make them available? Are taxi companies proper out of business?
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[12:34:24] <exec> 08└─As airports become more and more crowded, bundling more passengers into fewer lift-offs/landings will be one of the few options to further fuel aviation growth in the future. From what I read about the A380 developments, my understanding is that airlines indeed appreciated the A380 as being a soluti...
[12:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:46] <exec> 08└─In the UK the local tax on your house or property includes a component for dealing with rainwater - including maintenance of rivers. It is clearly listed in your annual property tax statement, and no-one much has issues with the principle of it. The bigger the house or business the more tax they pay...
[12:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:47] <exec> 08└─Richmond, VA already taxes you for storm runoff [richmondgov.com].
[12:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:49] <exec> 08└─There's a lot to be said for and against dams. On the plus side, they do tend to tame the rivers. Trap the floodwater, as much as possible, then release it throughout the dry season. Those interested in the water for irrigation should appreciate that benefit.
[12:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:26] <exec> 08└─Don't "real" designers go on retreats to learn to eat kale and wheatgrass, and come back wearing skivvies and polished leather shoes without socks, and thinking everything could do with more white space, even the little icons...and everything should be shades of one colour..
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[13:33:50] <exec> 08└─These algorithms will just optimize for whatever you set as the target. If you choose number of paper clips produced it will gladly choose to consume all minerals in the entire solar system in order to make unused paper clips. https://wiki.lesswrong.com [lesswrong.com]
[13:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:51] <exec> 08└─You know the end of a business cycle (in general or for a specific industry) is approaching when the addicts come up with infinitely complicated schemes to squeeze those last drops of blood from a stone. The short term story is "cool optimization strategy brah". The long term story is they're done,...
[13:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:59] <exec> 08└─I promised to get Apple to build a big plant in the United States or many big plants in the United States. Promise kept! Chrysler is coming back to the USA, from Mexico and many others will follow. Tax cut money to employees is pouring into our economy with many more companies announcing. American b...
[13:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:01] <exec> 08└─not a apple fan (or (l)user) but i hope they will blaze the way for a modem that can talk to another modem without having to go thru a tower with AP-like (access point) equipment from other manufacturers: "oh please, please, please ^insert cell tower equipment manufacturer^ tell us the secrit sauce...
[13:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:58] <exec> 08└─I doubt the people at the bottom of that river appreciate their subsistence livelihood being drained away
[13:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:37] <exec> 08└─Why in the loweet fricking hell does my Ubuntu 18.04 have a "slide up to unlock" ON MY FUCKING DESKTOP MACHINE </rage>
[13:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Newly Discovered Asteroid Orbits Between Mercury and Venus, With Shortest Year of Any Known Asteroid - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:29] <exec> 08└─This asteroid sounds like a great target to test landers and sample return missions. It's close enough to not require years of travel, and its orbit would grant us a view from outside the ecliptic plane.
[13:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06 Major Security Breach Found in Hospital and Supermarket Refrigeration Systems - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:03] <exec> 08└─I like this story because it combines two bad ideas in an interesting way. There's never been a situation where putting a thermostat on the internet is good, and there's never been a situation where putting a fridge on the internet is good, therefore some idiot combined both and put a fridge thermos...
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[14:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:47] <exec> 08└─She went to all the trouble of gimping her devices for a story when she could have had a paid, week long fishing trip somewhere with shit for signal.
[14:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:49] <exec> 08└─And she never tried the real challenge - trying to survive without using or relying on anything that runs Linux. With that kind of restriction, she'd probably not even have got to her VPN, let alone out the far side.
[14:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:51] <exec> 08└─She could still have gone fishing though. Some people...
[14:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:53] <exec> 08└─I don't think the point of the story was, "Can you do without technology for a week" but "Can you use technology, but boycott a specific company, for a week"
[14:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:04] <exec> 08└─I always thought the whole point of granting scholarships is to provide top-class education to poor but qualified students who might otherwise be unable to afford such education. If you wanted to maximise profits, then you'd probably be better off not bothering to offer any scholarships at all, and...
[14:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 2518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:06] <exec> 08└─Someone correct me if I am mistaken. "...instead of offering a $20,000 scholarship to one needy student, they could divide the same amount into four scholarships of $5,000 each and dangle them in front to wealthier students who might otherwise choose a different school. Luring four paying students i...
[14:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:08] <exec> 08└─> just provide your education at whatever price the market will bear. Say we have 100 potential students. 50 students will pay $10000, 50 students will pay $20000 for the same programme, because they have more money but less ability to get into a better university. Now say we have 100 places to fill...
[14:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:11] <exec> 08└─> Blaming machine learning or AI or whatever is just really weak blame deflection I see this behaviour all the time in graduate students (and even more senior academics). Prof: "Why does the graph look like that?" Student: "The computer said so" Prof: "But Why did the computer say so?" Student looks...
[14:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03danaris [3853] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:21] <exec> 08└─Are you suggesting that Apple build some sort of iPhone-to-iPhone mesh network that completely bypasses the cellular networks? I can see there being certain useful applications of that (at least in big cities where at any given time, you've got at least a decent possibility of being within range of...
[14:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lyft Says It Has More Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles Available in NYC - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:31] <exec> 08└─The ADA says the business has to make a reasonable accommodataion if needed. For a company with many vehicles, making some ADA seems reasonable. For a single person on a shoestring, using their car part time to sell rides, it seems not. These business are a bit of both, so the question of reasonable...
[14:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03eravnrekaree [555] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 952 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:58] <exec> 08└─I think its a general lack of demand for huge airplanes. The 747 is also being discontinued. It seems the airlines prefer smaller aircraft. Perhaps its because they can more easily add and remove capacity from a route and are not stuck with huge aircraft they cannot fill, and with smaller craft you...
[14:35:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 2186 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:57] <exec> 08└─Going back to skeuomorphic UI design, will fail. Why? - because the hardware / physical world stuff has also all gone "flat" ("but it looks good"). Of course it doesn't work so well there either... Even in hardware, buttons are not buttons any more, they are not raised, they do not move when pushed,...
[14:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:02] <exec> 08└─https://duckduckgo.com/?ko=-1&q=soylent+green&ia=images&iax=images [duckduckgo.com] Have you tried duckduckgo? It's like Google used to be. Simple, straight forward, trustworthy. I appreciate what Google has done for the Internet. For a while now I have strongly suspected that they have lost the plo...
[14:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:04] <exec> 08└─I started when that company had 300 people and bugged out halfway through the 8.0 debacle. I've never regretted it.
[14:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:06] <exec> 08└─for that you have to first scroll left and right through dozens of options to find and select "oven" That's so the manufacturer can use the same UI on the combination oven/refrigerator/freezer/food dryer. Remember! Software is expensive!
[14:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:08] <exec> 08└─On new Android versions it's all gone to flat shit
[14:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:11] <exec> 08└─skeuomorphic design always turns painfully anacronistic, with kids under the age of 40 mystified by a UI made entirely of floppy disks, filmstrip reels, walkman UIs, slide rule radio dials, just madness. Meanwhile I like UIs that expand my possibilities perhaps in an abstract manner, not a VRML repr...
[14:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:13] <exec> 08└─I have absolutely no idea what's wrong with Apple's design team.
[14:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:15] <exec> 08└─There's a lesson I forgot to mention that usability and appearance are uncorrelated or possibly anti-correlated in UI work. The ideal UI to actually use is a nice incredibly unflashy and unimpressive CLI. Hollywood UIs always look cool but are essentially unusable in practice. Note that the people...
[14:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:17] <exec> 08└─Did someone look at the Windows ... and think "that's been such a brilliant success we just have to copy it in Linux"?
[14:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:19] <exec> 08└─But it was really expensive and looks really good
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[15:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:56] <exec> 08└─Or, more to the point: look at all the stuff that depends on company X that you wouldn't have thought did...
[15:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:57] <exec> 08└─Right but my point was she could have cheated and enjoyed herself on the company dime instead of dealing with headaches.
[15:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:00] <exec> 08└─i've been living without those shitty corporations since a few years now and don't need to write on my blog about it and yes I don't have one because shitty services are shitty. fools however are still falling prey of those corporations
[15:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:02] <exec> 08└─blocks Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Amazon for a week each
[15:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:04] <exec> 08└─She failed. Everything she owns or uses has some connection to those mentioned. The supermarket she buys her food from probably uses one of those services, the water utility that fills her toilet is probably connected to some Amazon server, the doctor she goes to, banking, ... on and on it goes. If...
[15:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:06] <exec> 08└─He then used the VPN to block my devices from being able to use the IP addresses owned by ... Apple
[15:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 1417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:09] <exec> 08└─It's not really news. Try doing the same and remove, say, Cisco... or Huawei. At least when something uses Amazon you stand half a chance of knowing that just by blocking their IP ranges. But you have no idea if they are using them on the backend, or behind a proxy of some kind, to actually provide...
[15:34:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 2518 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:20] <exec> 08└─Someone correct me if I am mistaken. "...instead of offering a $20,000 scholarship to one needy student, they could divide the same amount into four scholarships of $5,000 each and dangle them in front to wealthier students who might otherwise choose a different school. Luring four paying students i...
[15:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:24] <exec> 08└─Yea, these humans should be fired though. Programming a computer to give money to rich people but not poor people and then blaming the computer for doing that is just dumb.
[15:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:27] <exec> 08└─Nb: presumably amazon will start doing this (maybe they already have).
[15:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:29] <exec> 08└─> If memory serves they were doing that 19 years ago and got busted for a Robinson-Patman Act violation. Presumably, in the US this is true...
[15:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:31] <exec> 08└─Luring four paying students instead of one nonpayer would create $240,000 in additional tuition revenue over four years."
[15:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:33] <exec> 08└─Seconded. I'm sure there are countless cases where use of machine learning algorithms did have unintended consequences. But this is clearly not one of them, the school intentionally cut support for poorer students in favor of getting more tuition from wealthier ones. Maybe they should rewrite the he...
[15:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:36] <exec> 08└─Ah I found it, Sept 2000 regarding DVD sales, looks like Amazon violated Robinson-Patman regarding DVD prices (and Diamond Rio mp3 players) but they were never charged or punished, just issued an "oh shit we messed up" and a claim they'd no longer violate the act. Its hard to search because as you'd...
[15:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:38] <exec> 08└─I'm completely in favor of skipping college unless you have a clear career path lined up that makes the investment worthwhile. There is nothing wrong with being an electrician, plumber, or similar. But as a general thing keep in mind supply and demand: going to tech school is only the smart move whe...
[15:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:48] <exec> 08└─Haven't the relevant technologies, like Bluetooth, NFC, and WiFi Direct, been around for a while?
[15:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lyft Says It Has More Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles Available in NYC - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:59] <exec> 08└─I wonder if Uber and Lyfrt allow vehicles with car seats? Or if you bring your own car seat? Maybe not because it's a liability?
[15:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:27] <exec> 08└─583 of those fatalities were in a single incident [wikipedia.org] when 2 collided into one another on the ground. It was caused by the KLM captain being an jackass, and could have happened in any two airliners. All fatal 747 incidents since 2010 [wikipedia.org] have been cargo aircraft, which seem t...
[15:35:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 171 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:41] <exec> 08└─Exactly. It's not taxing rain, its taxing "pollutant-filled stormwater runoff". Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, I shouldn't be subsidising someone else's effluent flow.
[15:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:53] <exec> 08└─Other US states have passed this same tax and it works similarly to what you describe. It's in your property tax. Each municipality can decide how to calculate the fee: using either a flat rate or a rate based on impermeable surfaces. Some very rural counties use a different calculation for farms, b...
[15:36:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 194 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:14] <exec> 08└─If it is so obviously evident and evidently obvious that "flat design" is so baderest, how come we get this in all applications starting from mobile and ending with... the fucking Visual Studio?
[15:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:16] <exec> 08└─Well with advances in robotic dexterity and methods of motion you might be able to come up with something. You would have to spend a lot of time researching which tentacle wiggles are the most "exciting." I'm sure you will have plenty of volunteers for that. I bet there is a market for a foot long t...
[15:37:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Apple to Developers: Disclose Screen Recording or Get Booted From App Store - 1597 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:41] <exec> 08└─You mean that their super-duper "code review" process can't detect this?! (Of course it can't. If you don't want people recording the screen, do NOT provide them with access to the screen memory except for what they need to draw their app - i.e. precisely nothing but an app-specific surface) There a...
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[16:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:52] <exec> 08└─No, I mean, really, so what? The truth doesn't need you to believe it to remain true. As long as information isn't being suppressed, what business is it or mine, yours, or whoever's what someone wants to believe? I mean, you don't see me going around advocating for suppression of the blatantly contr...
[16:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:54] <exec> 08└─Its tied to beliefs about racism In fact, about one-in-five U.S. adults reject the basic idea that life on Earth has evolved at all.
[16:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:56] <exec> 08└─I prefer the Darwin awards instead, that said one clearly isn't possible without the other. But it's more Darwinism in practice and action instead of just the theory. Real life examples that people can clearly see and understand. Still it's always interesting to see and note that that Darwinism and...
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[16:33:58] <exec> 08└─For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie. Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse [siderus.io] It has blood on it! [siderus.io] ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander [archive.org] Losing my religion [siderus.io]
[16:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:00] <exec> 08└─Maybe you should try to stop conflating the theory of evolution with the theory of common descent. It is entirely possible, and scientific, to agree with the former and disagree with the latter.
[16:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:02] <exec> 08└─I wonder what the overlap is between climate change denial and evolution denial.
[16:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 2433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:05] <exec> 08└─A theoretical model with remarkable prediction capabilities that might enhance your interpretation would be leftism as a religion. Screeching about how we must all be converted to believe in evolution is literally the same mindset as preaching about Jesus to the choir or to the heathens, its about b...
[16:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 2096 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:07] <exec> 08└─Plate tectonics denial is another one of those topics where belief or disbelief has no effect on daily life for 99.999% of the population, although its highly effective at freaking people out. I had a roommate who became a geologist... its funny to troll future little proto-wanna-be geologists with...
[16:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:09] <exec> 08└─It's so refreshing to have all the buttons pressed so the looneys can froth off again. This site is really losing its original vision. Moar froth! Moaaaarr!
[16:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:12] <exec> 08└─So, an Asian elephant is smarter than an African elephant? Think it's the ears?
[16:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 2122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, pretty much the entire gospel is about how contemporary Judaism had been contorted by self-righteous hypocrites (the Pharisees) in order to fit into the Roman system. Those hypocrites were experts at playing everybody for status. They set themselves up as the most righteous Jews, heirs of the...
[16:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:16] <exec> 08└─However, people in power will be influenced by their own worldview. I don't want people who are in charge of education being so ill-educated that they reject, and even interfere with the teaching of, hard science (it is hard science, it's makes predictions that are testable, and to assume that princ...
[16:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:18] <exec> 08└─If evolution is true then there is no such thing as equality. If survival of the fittest is how the universe works then I can shoot you in the face and take your stuff, you just weren't fit enough. Blonde hair blue eye platforms are dependent on one genetic strain rising above all others and it can'...
[16:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:21] <exec> 08└─I wont search these people out to tell them they are wrong but if it comes up in conversation, say like an article like this one, then I wpuld have no problem stating my opinion. Since when does TMB care about not being an asshole anyway?
[16:34:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:31] <exec> 08└─I don't think the point of the story was, "Can you do without technology for a week" but "Can you use technology, but boycott a specific company, for a week"
[16:34:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 108 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:33] <exec> 08└─Or, more to the point: look at all the stuff that depends on company X that you wouldn't have thought did...
[16:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:41] <exec> 08└─She blocked all IP addresses for: Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Amazon (first, isn't that "...and Amazon" a redundant redundancy?) Why would I want to block ALL KNOWN IP addresses for these companies? I'm assuming that includes their hosting services? If I use Netflix, should I care that...
[16:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:44] <exec> 08└─You have no idea how hard it is to find a phone that's not touched by Apple or Google.
[16:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:46] <exec> 08└─This is true. This is so true. It's known as Cloud Digital. Or Cloud Cyber. And every time our C.I.A. drones somebody, Jeff Bozo makes a couple bucks. From the Intelligence Community Information Technology Enterprise, the I.C.I.T.E. Say that one out loud. But not where "Alexa" can hear you!!!
[16:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:48] <exec> 08└─Indeed. It's not really hard to be without them if you want to. Problem here is she is a bit of a cunt that wants to eat the cookie and also not at about the same time. She wants to live her urban metropolitan life with all the bling bling. She wants her Apple and Google and Amazon cause they make h...
[16:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:50] <exec> 08└─I'm waiting for part 8: blocking the NSA.
[16:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 1249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:52] <exec> 08└─pshaw! i am appalled at the comments so far:"it's not THAT bad."?!? it's freaking horrible! wake up people! i understand if computer-sheep go about their business relying nonchalantly on the data whore houses, but people reading soylent? the next step (and a constructive step it would be indeed), is...
[16:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:55] <exec> 08└─Indeed. It's not really hard to be without them if you want to. You didn't actually read the summary, did you?
[16:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:57] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you should start a VPN service for people which does just that -- block the big 5. I suppose you could give users a checkbox list so they could ban some or all. I don't doubt there'd be some buyers out there.
[16:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the fundamental mistake was to make the university a business, which means the mandate to maximize profits. It was not the AI that made this decision.
[16:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:19] <exec> 08└─Universities offering perks to those who don't need them and students who won't need the degree since they are already lined up for senior partner at daddy's firm. Doesn't this all sounds absoutely pointless?
[16:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 2138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:21] <exec> 08└─I would agree with your observations generally, with some fine tuning, that it takes a much higher IQ to be an electrician than perhaps a school teacher, which limits supply, and you can't ship an electrican's job to India quite as easily as shipping an accountants job or a software dev. Also its in...
[16:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 1675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:32] <exec> 08└─Nor would they be able to without using cellular frequencies which would need a licence to prove it can interoperate with those exact companies you want to bypass. Modems transmit as well as receive, remember. If they used different frequencies, then they might as well use 802.11. They'll quickly fi...
[16:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:33] <exec> 08└─Newsflash: Jobs is NOT coming back. He came back to Apple once. But no more.
[16:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:36] <exec> 08└─Modern micro controllers make lots of DIY things possible. What if you could create your own box that legally used some part of the spectrum such that two of your DIY "modems" could talk to each other. Your modem could offer Bluetooth or USB to the device. Then your smartphones, laptops, chromebooks...
[16:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:14] <exec> 08└─When is the last time the French won a war, or completed a canal without having to call the good ol' USA in to bail them out? Our relationship with them is very incestuous, which I guess is needed, because the Brits don't even offer the courtesy of a reach around.
[16:37:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fennec [7053] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 427 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:08] <exec> 08└─I think flat design is meant to guide you and control what you're seeing. If there is nothing to "distract" you from the content you spend more time being brainwashed. If you can't find options anymore then there is no more customisation to support. It's not the interface that is being dumbed down b...
[16:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 3280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:28] <exec> 08└─tl;dr: it goes back to marketing taking over the web, form over function and marketing materials didn't have 3d controls. I think it began in the late 90's, in fact I saw it happen first hand (but in just one of many many places where it happened round the world). It began when marketing noticed the...
[16:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:30] <exec> 08└─As usual, things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler.
[16:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:32] <exec> 08└─Navigation by dead reckoning.
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[17:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:50] <exec> 08└─Why are so many of these objects shaped like dumbbells?
[17:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:52] <exec> 08└─That's part of how matter coalescences. It's two smaller objects that came in contact with each other gently enough to not destroy each other. Just look at how many binary objects exist in the universe and it shouldn't be so surprising that smaller objects can be binary as well. But, IANAAstrophysic...
[17:33:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 712 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:00] <exec> 08└─No, I mean, really, so what? The truth doesn't need you to believe it to remain true. As long as information isn't being suppressed, what business is it or mine, yours, or whoever's what someone wants to believe? I mean, you don't see me going around advocating for suppression of the blatantly contr...
[17:34:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 628 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:11] <exec> 08└─However, people in power will be influenced by their own worldview. I don't want people who are in charge of education being so ill-educated that they reject, and even interfere with the teaching of, hard science (it is hard science, it's makes predictions that are testable, and to assume that princ...
[17:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:14] <exec> 08└─I'll take the pee and go p-hacking by throwing anti-vaxxers in the mix.
[17:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:16] <exec> 08└─Here, here! That is right. You have the right and privilege to be wrong as do I. Truth is truth no matter if you believe or understand it it's still true and you cant change it. However, I am not aware of anything in evolution that says I have to be nice or not eat any other animal.
[17:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:19] <exec> 08└─I was first going to say, that there's someone mistaking evolution and origin of species, but after "about one-in-five U.S. adults reject the basic idea that life on Earth has evolved at all" i'm actually wondering WTF. I can understand that some idiot is arquing against the origin of species, but a...
[17:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:21] <exec> 08└─What's scientific about a fairytale that stems from a past where science didn't even exist?
[17:34:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:23] <exec> 08└─No, I mean, really, so what? “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” -- Voltaire
[17:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:25] <exec> 08└─-1 off topic
[17:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:28] <exec> 08└─And? It's not hurting anyone for them to believe something silly unless you consider exposure to things you disagree with as harm, which would be pretty fucked up of you.
[17:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:30] <exec> 08└─Then vote for people who don't. Problem solved without any jackboots necessary.
[17:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:32] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't go for the full 4/5 there, but racism is definitely an element of evolution. Not the science, of course. "Adaptability" is not equivalent to superiority, and any attempt to scientifically define "superiority" is a pseudo-scientific waste of effort. But too many serious scientists have tri...
[17:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:34] <exec> 08└─You're mistaking my hobby (bitchslapping noobs on the Internet) for the entirety of who I am.
[17:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:37] <exec> 08└─If evolution is true then there is no such thing as equality.
[17:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:39] <exec> 08└─If they didn't want to be eaten, they shouldn't have evolved to be delicious.
[17:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:41] <exec> 08└─What people can make you believe is on you not them.
[17:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:43] <exec> 08└─The emphasis on "Darwin day" shows that some of the people who understand evolution is real aren't immune to magical thinking themselves. Evolution isn't more or less real on "Darwin days" than on other days.
[17:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:45] <exec> 08└─I don't want people who are in charge of education being so ill-educated that they reject, and even interfere with the teaching of, hard science
[17:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:48] <exec> 08└─whichever groups have the best adapted traits are not inherently superior
[17:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:50] <exec> 08└─...is literally the same mindset as preaching about Jesus to the choir or to the heathens... Not really, we have evidence for our theory.
[17:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:52] <exec> 08└─Anti-racism is not a denial of evolution. First, actual genetic variations in humans have not all that much to do with "race" as commonly defined. There are all kinds of genetic variations that have no effect whatsoever on skin color, hair type, or eye shape, and those variations are not geographica...
[17:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:54] <exec> 08└─There's admittedly very little solid argument to support that all races/genders/etc. are, on average, "equal" by any objective measure. HOWEVER: the important thing to keep in mind is that standard deviation is generally much larger than the difference between the mean. As an example: Group X may av...
[17:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:57] <exec> 08└─self-righteous hypocrites (the Pharisees)
[17:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:59] <exec> 08└─Buzzy writes: "Just let people live their lives, even if they want to do it in a way you think is silly. Don't be any bigger an asshole than you need to be." Words of wisdom. Seriously, the older I get, the more I think that's the best philosophy of life.
[17:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:01] <exec> 08└─Zealot by Reza Aslan
[17:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:03] <exec> 08└─Alas that vid seems to cut off part way through the talk, whilst he's racing down the phylogenic tree. Fortunately, if that bit interests you, rather than the history he started with, he has a whole series about the phylogenic classification of life that's now up to 37 parts, IIRC, just check his yo...
[17:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:06] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, the preachers think the same thing. Thats kinda my point.
[17:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:08] <exec> 08└─whichever groups have the best adapted traits are not inherently superior That doesn't sound so logical. I think you're trying to say something like "not being a jerk to your inferiors is an inherent virtue worth cultivating" is probably what you're trying to say; No, I interpret his comment differ...
[17:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:10] <exec> 08└─How do you figure that's magical thinking? We celebrate Washington's birthday, despite the fact that the U.S. isn't any more or less free or democratic than on any other day of the year. We celebrate M.L. King Jr. day, despite the fact that racism isn't any more or less solved than on any other day....
[17:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:12] <exec> 08└─credentials to claim authority
[17:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:15] <exec> 08└─I think it is more that a certain type of person is always going to turn to some father figure and if it isn't a religious organization it will be the state. It is better to have the religious organizations competing with the State for telling them what to do then to let these merge into one (basica...
[17:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:17] <exec> 08└─You mean other than the fact that these are the same mouth breathers that fight tooth and nail against doing the research necessary to solve our problems, right? These are the same people that constantly fight against doing research because they're not secure in their beliefs. If they were so secure...
[17:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:19] <exec> 08└─Oh boy, that one again. Global warming doesn't exist because the temperature difference between night and day is vastly larger than the average temperature in 1979 and 2019. you'd expect an intelligence-based job to be occupied by slightly more X's than Y's
[17:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:21] <exec> 08└─That's a false equivalency, there's literally no evidence to hold any of that up. Which is a large part of why religion is on a decline more or less globally. People are just increasingly tired of something that contributes so little to society in the current time and causes so many problems. Anybod...
[17:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:24] <exec> 08└─That assumes there's somebody to vote for. The US has two rightwing parties. Voting for the Democrats is somewhat better on a small number of issues, but they're every bit as corrupt as the GOP is. They hand out committee positions purely based upon donor contributions, not on which member would be...
[17:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 946 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:26] <exec> 08└─Not every position of power or influence is elected, far from it. Even within your own devolutionary domains, let alone ones you have no influence over, which can affect your. And you're presiming that you have a functioning democracy, something the US definitely does not have.If one side of Texarka...
[17:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:51] <exec> 08└─Fishing is boring
[17:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:53] <exec> 08└─Even if you rewind your life to approximately 1978 levels of technology, you can't rewind the rest of the world. If you go shopping, the point of sale device is almost certainly running Windows or iOS. If you make a phone call, the person on the other end is probably using a phone with Android or iO...
[17:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 1011 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:55] <exec> 08└─no no no. it might work but the spirit of doing what you propose is the same spirit that governs the "big 5". you "do think" FOR the user, without the user having a clue. and after being abused enough by (l)users (knowingly or unknowingly), bills will have to be paid and then the hunt for profit beg...
[17:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:57] <exec> 08└─Only when it's slow. Which is why you swap lies with the old men or set your catfish rods out and take a nap. Kids today, have to be provided outside entertainment the whole time they're awake. It's really pathetic.
[17:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:59] <exec> 08└─Why would I want to block ALL KNOWN IP addresses for these companies? I'm assuming that includes their hosting services?
[17:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:02] <exec> 08└─That's easy, I've got this setup. All you have to do is [user disconnected]
[17:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:38] <exec> 08└─Tim Cook looking over his garden: "Hmmm...it needs something more. Slaves! Make that wall higher!"
[17:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:40] <exec> 08└─This is just vertical integration and a smart move by Apple. Buying parts from a competitor? [9to5mac.com] Stupid move. Buying parts from a company [wikipedia.org] that sues you constantly? Bad move. Buying parts from a company and running it into the ground [soylentnews.org]? Bold move. Making your...
[17:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lyft Says It Has More Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles Available in NYC - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:51] <exec> 08└─Your argument sounds to me like an argument that the Uber and Lyft business model was illegal from that start, and that it just took people awhile to notice. As to your question, many taxi companies that were previously operating well, but with a low margin have gone out of business. Others have mer...
[17:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:23] <exec> 08└─it's just useless, purely a political ploy that failed miserably. Break 'em up, and use 'em to make an artificial reef or something.
[17:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:24] <exec> 08└─a. You switched planes. b. There is still a fleet size difference. Boeing is making crazy numbers of the 787. The 380 is rare.
[17:37:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nuke [3162] 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 346 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:45] <exec> 08└─In the UK the local tax on your house or property includes a component for dealing with rainwater - including maintenance of rivers. It is clearly listed in your annual property tax statement, and no-one much has issues with the principle of it. The bigger the house or business the more tax they pay...
[17:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:51] <exec> 08└─Exactly. It's not taxing rain, its taxing "pollutant-filled stormwater runoff". Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, I shouldn't be subsidising someone else's effluent flow. Right, those stormwater systems are not free. Who exactly do they think should pay for them. Oh, nevermind, conservative math......
[17:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:53] <exec> 08└─That argument can be handled by treaties. (Treaties, of course, are frequently broken. Oh well.) The thing that's harder to handle is the changes it causes in the environment. Some of the changes are beneficial to people, but often only to *some* people. And locally adapted plants and animals freque...
[17:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:55] <exec> 08└─From the article: Under the law, the utilities can levy steep fees on properties with large parking lots, long driveways, or big buildings — which create the most runoff.
[17:38:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 977 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:18] <exec> 08└─I have been trying to figure this out for ages. To me, KDE3.5 and 4.x were the peak of design for the desktop for OSS, Windows XP and 7 for the MS side, and OS X from, say, 10.4 to 10.10 or whenever they went full flat-tard on us. I've watched the flat design take over with a mixture of disbelief an...
[17:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:47] <exec> 08└─Flat looks like Star Trek TNG UI.
[17:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:48] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure systemd has shit-all to do with UI.
[17:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:50] <exec> 08└─"simpleton mode" good, "so simple, that you can't differentiate" not good. Seriously, you want a simple interface that's easy to navigate. What you don't want is a simple interface, that's not easy to navigate. Simple != User Friendly.
[17:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:27] <exec> 08└─Ah.....DON'T turn them into walking brood pouches. I knew I was doing something wrong!
[17:42:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Fiber’s Biggest Failure: ISP Will Turn Service Off in Louisville - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:19] <exec> 08└─Haha! Gives another meaning to shitty internet connection :D But seriously, I read an article in 2013 explaining how lack of strong governance in India has given rise to jugaad [wikipedia.org] or hacky solutions. That article was pro-libertarian, going as far as calling India the best example of suc...
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[18:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:53] <exec> 08└─There is still a gravity component of about .002 m/s^2 at their surfaces of the major axis, so that even if they bounce off each other the first time, there is an opportunity for them to eventually achieve equilibrium as two objects bound by a small gravitational force. The velocity vectors of thei...
[18:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:55] <exec> 08└─Presumably the nearest alien civilization has genitalia shaped like dumbells--it is the only logical explanation.
[18:34:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 144 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:30] <exec> 08└─I don't want people who are in charge of education being so ill-educated that they reject, and even interfere with the teaching of, hard science
[18:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:52] <exec> 08└─Creation gobbledygook just doesn't have the gravitas. (Side note - spellchecker corrected my first attempt at "gobblygook" - it's a real word!)
[18:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:53] <exec> 08└─You are conflating arguments. The bit you should be addressing is "I don't want people who are in charge of education being so ill-educated that they reject, and even interfere with the teaching of, hard science" but you seem to be focusing more on "personal opinions are fine stop the wrong-think wi...
[18:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:55] <exec> 08└─umm ok? here I'll order some Confidence Boosters™ for you
[18:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:58] <exec> 08└─That is a very fine philosophy to live by in your personal life, but maybe you missed the end of TFS. In Indiana, senator Dennis Kruse introduced a bill that would, among other things, "require the teaching of various theories concerning the origin of life, including creation science."
[18:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:00] <exec> 08└─The Catholic Church officially still holds geocentrism to be true, and Galileo to be incorrect.
[18:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:02] <exec> 08└─Fuck off racist twat **Do not engage VLM on race topics, he is a racist hiding behind a halfway open closet door**
[18:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:05] <exec> 08└─Most people are wired like that and those that aren't aren't necessarily any better at separating superstition from reality. The only people more obnoxious than the true-believers are the skeptics. The lengths they'll go to in order to debunk things is insane. And often times it gets chalked up to c...
[18:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:07] <exec> 08└─While I agree with you on the frothy loonies this site was founded on "simple design, no censorship, community for the people not profit." It has stuck to those principles quite well, sadly there was a big overlap between those ideologies and the vile fuckups who disliked being "censored" for their...
[18:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:09] <exec> 08└─It is when their misinformation is forming their voting pattern. We have 3 choices - work to get voters to deal with reality, suppress their vote, or have them elect idiots. We are currently mostly going with option 3 and it's failing spectacularly. I find option 2 repugnant. That leaves me with opt...
[18:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 3313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:11] <exec> 08└─Your claim seems very fuzzy; somehow a genetic mutation resulting in cancer of the breast "proves" that genetic mutation resulting in cancer of the throat. If you're not a racist, how could you possibly know what racists think? You seem rather certain that because only euros have the gene to digest...
[18:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:14] <exec> 08└─I chalked it up to one of those high functioning disorders, finding logical faults when totally unnecessary.
[18:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:16] <exec> 08└─Not really. That's why feminists have been winning the last few decades. They decry any actual research that doesn't confirm their beliefs and as a result, it's gotten tougher and tougher to conduct objective research on things like domestic violence because nobody wants to have the consequences of...
[18:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:18] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one who has actually read the goddamn boring book? SO BORING. I didn't enjoy the style one bit. But it was boring for a reason - so that there would be no mistaking the author's meaning, and no possibility of "you're making shit up" or "you left something out" accusations. And it cause...
[18:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:21] <exec> 08└─I think if someone could ask a dolphin or chimpanzee (using sign language) if they believe in evolution, and the answer is yes, then it would be proven. The chance of two species coming up with the same wrong theory is too low.
[18:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:23] <exec> 08└─"hiding" ... ok then, AC. You have to remember its the current year; in 2019 "being racist" merely means being well educated in biology or statistics. Or being relatively immune to logical fallacies in arguments. Or merely being white. Under 2019 definitions, sure, that's me alright. Its not exactly...
[18:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:25] <exec> 08└─Racist!!! You know that Dolphins are "differently-abled" and as such are unable to sign.
[18:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:27] <exec> 08└─Citation: https://www.usnews.com [usnews.com] Pope Francis good enough for you? Ex cathedra, and all that. Or John Paul II, on Gallileo Gallilei: https://www.newscientist.com
[18:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:30] <exec> 08└─No, neither of those are good enough. Were the declarations of 500 years ago rescinded? Answer: No. Francis is also wrong. He is a practicer of Lawlessness.
[18:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:02] <exec> 08└─Yes. I didn't have a mobile telephone until a month ago (I'm 59). The cafeteria I go to had a loyalty program wherein buying nine coffees got you a free tenth and was kept track of via a cardboard card that the cashier hole-punched. Then they went to an "app". Brought new meaning to the phrase "loya...
[18:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lyft Says It Has More Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles Available in NYC - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:52] <exec> 08└─I do Uber on the side and people occasionally bring a child seat or booster seat for their kid. I'm not sure how it affects liability for either myself or Uber but I'd like to know.
[18:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:25] <exec> 08└─They can't easily reuse the 380 line for other planes, because it's so huge, it takes the space of two 320s. The other problem with the 380 is the stupid "let's make everyone happy" arrangement, which brings to the south of France giants part made all over Europe, requiring special convoys and Belug...
[18:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:26] <exec> 08└─The Concorde answered the question, "How fast can we go before it gets too expensive?". The A380 seems to answer the question, "How big can we go before it gets too expensive". Planes don't make money unless you fill them. I suspect the A380 is hard to fill sometimes. Both planes had their own kinds...
[18:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:28] <exec> 08└─The 380 is rare. Thank goodness for that! Let's hope it goes extinct! It's a giant step backwards in sensible aircraft design. It's a *Brooklyn Bridge for sale*. Emirates was told to buy, or be invaded.
[18:37:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 26 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:39] <exec> 08└─So don't grant the breaks.
[18:38:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 859 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:14] <exec> 08└─There's a good reason why iphone jailbreakers have been producing a shitload of themes and skins, most of which aimed at reproducing, with more or less success, the skeuomorphic design pre-ios 7. I recently pulled out my old iphone 4. It was still on ios 6. My God, the instant you start interacting...
[18:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:51] <exec> 08└─The ideal UI to actually use is a nice incredibly unflashy and unimpressive CLI
[18:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:53] <exec> 08└─Except it ain't the "oldsters" that invented flat design.
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[19:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:50] <exec> 08└─It's posted twice.
[19:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:51] <exec> 08└─Deja Vu
[19:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:53] <exec> 08└─She had a macro in MS Word to dedupe, but with no microsoft and no nearby perl hacker to help her, she was doomed.
[19:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmn32480 [443] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:55] <exec> 08└─Nearly the first thing I put in the queue in months and I hosed it all up. I'll go back into hiding.
[19:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:58] <exec> 08└─You can't escape Goorgle.
[19:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:00] <exec> 08└─Third time's the charm?
[19:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:02] <exec> 08└─Hosed? Hoser? Hmmmm . . .
[19:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:14] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't it be much more likely for them to bounce off or obliterate each other?
[19:34:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Whoever [4524] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 80 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:27] <exec> 08└─I wonder what the overlap is between climate change denial and evolution denial.
[19:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:30] <exec> 08└─You know that Dolphins are "differently-abled" and as such are unable to sign.
[19:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:31] <exec> 08└─it is just a personal choice of reference frame.
[19:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:34] <exec> 08└─In a democracy you need enlightened voters or you end up with Trump. Even in just capitalism you should have perfectly informed participants for the system to work as intended. So that.
[19:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:36] <exec> 08└─I expect a khallow journal on how Big Oil is not funding anti-evolution propaganda, real soon now.
[19:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 3429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:38] <exec> 08└─I am not on that team, but my observation of their actions would imply they're kinda into academic scientific literary crit on the Bible. So what the author thinks, and what the author wrote, are not the point, its more like trying to gain insight on contemporary modern society (for possibly weird v...
[19:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:40] <exec> 08└─Can't read, huh? Must be a "Christian, not Catholic" sort of Christian. A Moron. Last week, 359 years later, the Church finally agreed. At a ceremony in Rome, before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope John Paul II officially declared that Galileo was right. The formal rehabilitation was based...
[19:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:43] <exec> 08└─Washington's birthday
[19:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:45] <exec> 08└─Obviously the Flintstones isn't a documentary, stone-radio-waves weren't preserved in the geological record. Think of it as a reenactment - like the civil war.
[19:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:47] <exec> 08└─Poop Pius XII, ENCYCLICAL: HUMANI GENERIS [vatican.va] , Given at Rome, at St. Peter's, 12 August 1950, 5. If anyone examines the state of affairs outside the Christian fold, he will easily discover the principle trends that not a few learned men are following. Some imprudently and indiscreetly hold...
[19:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 2437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:49] <exec> 08└─I see it didn't take any time at all for this thread to swerve into religion. Evolution, and science, is not about belief, hasn't anything to do with belief and faith. The core tenets of Christianity are Christian charity, turn the other cheek, love your neighbor as yourself. It's love, peace, chari...
[19:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:51] <exec> 08└─Declaring corporations to be people is a legal loophole to achieve a financial stability that otherwise won't exist. It is what gives legal basis to a contract between you and a corporation. It is purely a legal technicality. Your rest of the post stands true. Democrats and Republicans are both beho...
[19:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:54] <exec> 08└─We are all equal in our Creator's eyes. Faith in God has inspired men and women to sacrifice for the needy, to deploy to wars overseas, and to lock arms at home, to ensure equal rights for every man, woman and child in our land. We are not just flesh and bone and blood. We are human beings, with sou...
[19:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:56] <exec> 08└─You get 0 for history and advice to do more homework. Colonial armies were very diverse. In fact, all over history, any army that was successful was incredibly diverse. Seriously, you didn't think a bunch of British people were enough to defeat the whole world without enlisting locals, right? In fac...
[19:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:58] <exec> 08└─so assuming that there's nothing there even when the arguments to say that there's nothing there are just as bad is hypocritical.
[19:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:01] <exec> 08└─That's a false equivalency, there's literally no evidence to hold any of that up.
[19:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:03] <exec> 08└─But they did not repeal the original findings. Geocentrism is still on the books.
[19:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 751 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:05] <exec> 08└─He is not arguing, he is summarizing a huge amount of scientific literature on the matter of race. If you want to have a debate, really, it is unfair to expect everyone else to put an increasing amount of effort into educating you while you don't make any efforts otherwise. So here is my solution: Q...
[19:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 1008 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:38] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty handy with computers -- started in about 1982 with a CoCo -- I'm easily in the top 1% of users skill wise, which means I know enough to know that there's a HUGE amount of stuff I don't. To really do this right, I'd probably have to quit my day job and spend the next year studying but even...
[19:38:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:32] <exec> 08└─So you can start taxing those politicians! Remember, NO BREAKS.
[19:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:34] <exec> 08└─Then measures like this might be seen as excuses to bend provisions of the several states' constitutions that limit property tax.
[19:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:36] <exec> 08└─Aha, but is there a "no breaks" clause in the bill? ;)
[19:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:32] <exec> 08└─Erhman's Commentary: "Things will get worse before they will get better? Who said things would get better?"
[19:39:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 1863 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:33] <exec> 08└─Historically it seems proven based on examples that discovery can be much better with CLIs. CLIs are usually more consistent and less surprising. Certainly to be usable at all it has to be localized and internationalized. Certainly CLIs are more reproducible and easier to talk about, being in the fo...
[19:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:35] <exec> 08└─Thanks to Red Hat's submarine takeover of GNOME, it's got everything to do with the UI.
[19:40:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Armor Plated Tentacle Fish - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:13] <exec> 08└─This fish is indistinguishable from the plecostomus in my living room aquarium. By the way, those aren't tentacles. Thd word tentacles implies that they can be used for grabbing and or swimming. They look more like a bristly growth.
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[20:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimbrooking [3465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:50] <exec> 08└─No spammers, no DDOS attacke, no hackers from Russian sources? Hope the test lasts, say 25 years.
[20:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:51] <exec> 08└─They'll just launch previously scheduled attacks from a nearby country.
[20:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:06] <exec> 08└─Did it go better this time?
[20:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:07] <exec> 08└─'bah humbug! No Soup for you!
[20:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:09] <exec> 08└─Maybe she finally learnt about Tizen, Linux, Blackberry OS, OpenStreetMap, going to the corner store, and surviving without scrolling on the phone first thing every morning. It's 2019, and people seem to act as stuff that didn't exist 15 years ago is now unavoidable. (Store's POS software is indeed...
[20:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:12] <exec> 08└─Google is the only one of those I deliberately use - for the maps and Streetview. I don't find life difficult as a result. Of course I might unconsciously use a website running on a Microsoft server, and maybe Facebook collects data on me from some sites, but at least I make sure that my own website...
[20:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Horizons Departing View of Ultima Thule Reveals Flattened Shape - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:24] <exec> 08└─It seems like every single one they send a probe to has a dumbbell shape.
[20:35:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1772 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:04] <exec> 08└─Anti-racism is not a denial of evolution. First, actual genetic variations in humans have not all that much to do with "race" as commonly defined. There are all kinds of genetic variations that have no effect whatsoever on skin color, hair type, or eye shape, and those variations are not geographica...
[20:35:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 615 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:15] <exec> 08└─You mean other than the fact that these are the same mouth breathers that fight tooth and nail against doing the research necessary to solve our problems, right? These are the same people that constantly fight against doing research because they're not secure in their beliefs. If they were so secure...
[20:35:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 306 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:31] <exec> 08└─It is when their misinformation is forming their voting pattern. We have 3 choices - work to get voters to deal with reality, suppress their vote, or have them elect idiots. We are currently mostly going with option 3 and it's failing spectacularly. I find option 2 repugnant. That leaves me with opt...
[20:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:58] <exec> 08└─Is 1000 "scientists"[*] a significant number of people rejecting it? https://www.thecollegefix.com [* The cynic in me tells me that some of those "scientists" are women's studies scientists or ethnic hair braiding made up history scien...
[20:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:00] <exec> 08└─Don't bother. The A/C is probably khallow, who looks at the evidence you provide that prove him incorrect in his weird, tiny little world view, and and then sticks his fingers in his ears and screams "I CAN'T HEAR YOU"!!!!!
[20:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:02] <exec> 08└─in 2019 "being racist" merely means being well educated in biology or statistics.
[20:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:04] <exec> 08└─haha no, I know I'm on the correct side of the argument because SCIENCE and because I pay attention to the racist shit you post. You've toned it down a lot recently, but as long as you keep engaging the topic I will be pointing out that your somewhat more reasonable arguments these days are still co...
[20:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:06] <exec> 08└─Citation lacking. What "books"?
[20:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:08] <exec> 08└─What about the In praeclara summorum? In it, Pope Benedict XV stated, "though this Earth on which we live may not be the center of the universe as at one time was thought, it was the scene of the original happiness of our first ancestors, witness of their unhappy fall, as too of the Redemption of ma...
[20:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:11] <exec> 08└─But they did not repeal the original findings. Geocentrism is still on the books.
[20:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:13] <exec> 08└─From the earlier cited Humani Generis [vatican.va] of Pope Pius XII (Hitler's Pope) 41. For this reason, after mature reflexion and consideration before God, that We may not be wanting in Our sacred duty, We charge the Bishops and the Superiors General of Religious Orders, binding them most seriousl...
[20:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:15] <exec> 08└─“A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism” is a simple, 32-word statement that reads:         “We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encourage...
[20:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:18] <exec> 08└─Michael Behe
[20:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 1554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:20] <exec> 08└─It doesn't really matter. For alt-right types like VLM, it's all motte and bailey. "You can generate estimated regional origin based on full genome sequencing"(which is mostly true, but with serious caveats they will never, ever acknowledge) is what they want you to agree is possible, and as soon as...
[20:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:22] <exec> 08└─My mother-in-law is in the middle. She knows that species adapt to changes in their niche, bacteria gain resistance, etc. BUT, it is Satan doing it to work behind the scenes, because it is impossible for a dumb code to rewrite itself, and no single mutation creates new information, so it must be THE...
[20:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:24] <exec> 08└─But if you x-ray the flipper you see all the same bones you have in your hand.
[20:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:58] <exec> 08└─But not where "Alexa" can hear you!!!
[20:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 904 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:59] <exec> 08└─A general purpose computer does not seem to be what most people want nor is it something they have a use for. What most people want is to be able to fool themselves into thinking they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires. The entire thing is predicated on magical thinking. That is, if they have...
[20:38:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Jersey Wants to Tax the Rain - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:57] <exec> 08└─Asphalt doesn't absorb much rain water.
[20:41:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AT&T Sued by Sprint, Must Defend Decision to Tell Users That 4G is “5G E” - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:26] <exec> 08└─Yes - I would like to invest in the inevitable lawsuit.
[20:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:16] <exec> 08└─you might be interested to know that not everyone bases their opinions on a fucking meme!
[20:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:17] <exec> 08└─"proper taxpayer funded healthcare" lmao! what a fucking slave. just wait, dipshit. if brain damaging (it's a verb, look it up) your own kids on command isn't enough, soon they will be giving you more instructions. like, your mom is too old, you have to push the button. or your son has been brainwas...
[20:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Companies are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:19] <exec> 08└─you can probably change your diet long term and cure yourself. try that.
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[21:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:55] <exec> 08└─One CIA to spoof them all... Judging by mass media reports, it's working like a charm.
[21:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:57] <exec> 08└─It's only been 2 or 3 years since Russia blocked Amazon Web Services when a previous attempt at censorship failed. They wanted content removed from the Internet and cited Russian law. The people with the content moved it to AWS as a work around. Russia blocked AWS to work around the work around. The...
[21:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:59] <exec> 08└─My fear is the unblockable security upgrade sent in response to some squabble whose purpose is to brick anything that accepts it.
[21:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:01] <exec> 08└─hehe nice thinking, it would be like signing the attack though. So it's probably the Chinese that will experiment a bit knowing that the blame would fall on Russians. At least, that's what Putin wants you to believe. I suggest giving the final touches to the porn collection you built over time and t...
[21:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:04] <exec> 08└─Parts of AWS IP space was still blocked at the world cup -- couldn't get to a lightsail server I had.
[21:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:21] <exec> 08└─Apparently we've grown enough to start inheriting the problems of "The Green Site," including duplicate article submissions. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. However, I think I can live with it; it's definitely better than having no submissions. However, if you a SolyentNews Beta... (Even as an A...
[21:35:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 2437 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:58] <exec> 08└─I see it didn't take any time at all for this thread to swerve into religion. Evolution, and science, is not about belief, hasn't anything to do with belief and faith. The core tenets of Christianity are Christian charity, turn the other cheek, love your neighbor as yourself. It's love, peace, chari...
[21:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:21] <exec> 08└─Literated people form Japan to Mexico, Canada, Russia, China has no doubt. Not even Islamic fanatics are very adamant about evolution In this matter, USA is an abnormality in developed world.
[21:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06February 12 is Darwin Day and Evolution is Still Controversial - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:22] <exec> 08└─It is a direct observation... We directly observed this moth change it's colors in response to changes in it's environment. [wikipedia.org]
[21:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:59] <exec> 08└─Maybe she did, ...as she was checking out her shopping cart with the fishing gear she realized it was an Amazon shopping cart...
[21:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:57] <exec> 08└─Whoops, somewhat redundant beginning. Oh well. The main criticism was that flat design ignores the three-dimensional nature of the human brain, which is extremely sensitive to visual cues linking interfaces to the real world.
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[22:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:51] <exec> 08└─They can't predict shit. They can interpret existing data, such as the location where one starts navigation being a luser's home or place of employment, but they can't predict that today I may just want to stop by the supermarket before going to work. Just as I can't predict whether Google's navigat...
[22:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:52] <exec> 08└─We hear your concerns. That's why we're announcing the new GooBook Brain Implant, allowing us to provide relevant information to you as soon you need it.
[22:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:55] <exec> 08└─Most people are creatures of habit. And the companies did read that message you got to pick up some milk on the way home. Since you buy ice cream every other week, they know you'll be headed back right after, without stopping at the bar.
[22:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:57] <exec> 08└─Whole world is fucked up. There's only one (or two) questions. What are you doing about it? What can one do?
[22:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:59] <exec> 08└─A couple years ago, in the mountains, not in a busy city, on a fairly obscure road, Google was able to tell me about a delay ahead. Sure enough when we got there, a line of cars greeted us. We thought that was amazing how Google could know that in a place not that heavily trafficked normally. I real...
[22:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:01] <exec> 08└─They also recently introduced their new scholarship (don't click it at work) for females called GooGirls. [googirls.com]
[22:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:04] <exec> 08└─" hey google, can you recommend a movie I might like? "
[22:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 958 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:18] <exec> 08└─Earlier today this was also up on Slashdot. Many of the comments were really stupid, like wishing that it will be permanently disconnected. Do they not understand that Internet is needed for the population there, so they have a better chance to get information and not what their authorities want to...
[22:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:19] <exec> 08└─Ok, Just take the idea on it's own. Forget who's doing it. It's not a bad idea. I hope we're doing, or thinking of doing, the same here (US). I'd certainly be wary of routing all traffic through government routing points but even that makes sense if you think you've been compromised and don't want...
[22:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:21] <exec> 08└─Bricks are unhackable. Problem solved. :)
[22:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:24] <exec> 08└─A lot of the problems with Russia could be solved if Putin (aged 66) retires and he does not have a capable and charismatic successor who can fill his power vacuum, leading to the collapse of United Russia and restoration of democracy. Punishing Russian citizens for their government or wishing for t...
[22:34:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:26] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch [wikipedia.org]
[22:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:28] <exec> 08└─The deep state has spent the last two years sowing hate against Russia. I'm not surprised that even libertarian nerds are foaming at the mouth to deny that outgroup a right to use the Internet.
[22:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:30] <exec> 08└─The state-sponsored stuff, sure, and they probably do at least some of that anyway, just for plausible deniability and obfuscation of the actual operator behind a given attack. The various home/business user's PCs co-opted into botnets and VMs hosted at "bullet proof" hosting farms used by both stat...
[22:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:33] <exec> 08└─The next time a Comcast hub or something goes down, that should be the email/tweet/etc they send. "Just doing an unscheduled internet outage test to simulate a cyberwar. No nuclear missiles that we can detect have been launched, but rest assured if we can't even detect them, it'll probably be quick...
[22:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:35] <exec> 08└─> fill his power vacuum, > leading to the collapse of United Russia and restoration of democracy Sorry, but that's not how these things work, according to every historian who ever lived.
[22:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 1179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:37] <exec> 08└─BGP is still pretty fragile, despite a lot of recent efforts to shore up security and authenticate/validate IP route information and updates. It's not that long ago that we were discussion how quite large amounts of traffic got "accidentally" re-routed from the US via Russia or China and back again,...
[22:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:39] <exec> 08└─There were stupid comments on Slashdot? In other news, water is wet.
[22:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:42] <exec> 08└─The cyberattack side of the military doesn't have to be offline. In fact, if the cyberattack side of the military is engaged in a digital pearl harbor attack, then it would be good for the rest of the entire country to be off the net to prevent retaliation attacks.
[22:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:44] <exec> 08└─Yes, there were. But we get a higher class of stupid comments here. As you can tell by what you're reading. So be happy.
[22:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:03] <exec> 08└─What about duckduckgo?
[22:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 1007 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:04] <exec> 08└─But why totally dump ultra-portative computing? It;s a part which allows productivity too. I do not own smartphone for security reasons and I just have an old Samsung which lasts a month on one charge, but I use a small UMPC which works as well as smartphone, but has Linux. I found G maps hard to ab...
[22:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gizmodo Writer Experiments Blocking Amazon, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple From Her Life - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:42] <exec> 08└─You are a catfisher? This. Explains. So. Much.
[22:38:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 957 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:03] <exec> 08└─I'm completely in favor of skipping college unless you have a clear career path lined up that makes the investment worthwhile. There is nothing wrong with being an electrician, plumber, or similar. But as a general thing keep in mind supply and demand: going to tech school is only the smart move whe...
[22:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:07] <exec> 08└─This has nothing to do with ML, and everything to do with a bunch of greedy jerks trying to maximize their revenue. I mean, seriously? WTF did they think was going to happen if they target wealthy students at the expense of poor students?
[22:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trust but Verify: Machine Learning’s Magic Masks Hidden Frailties - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:09] <exec> 08└─Certainly. See the Tesla "autopilot" people. They're not gonna verify anything in any significant way before trusting the machine with their/other lives.
[22:39:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03krishnoid [1156] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 186 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:57] <exec> 08└─Despite these limitations flat design is becoming more and more common, and criticism of experts in HCI and usability is generally ignored by the software industry and graphic designers.
[22:40:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:32] <exec> 08└─As usual, things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler.
[22:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:45] <exec> 08└─Because the old way is old and clearly inferior. And we can't make new things look like old things because then people will think the new things are also old, and thus also inferior. So it is imperative that we throw the baby out with the bathwater, give the basin a good scrubbing to make sure they...
[22:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuyOnTheInterwebs [6936] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:46] <exec> 08└─Seriously. I managed to snap the end off a Harbor Freight box end wrench while removing a stuck pedal from my GF's bike. I stood there looking at the broken bit on the ground with my mouth open, thinking; How do you fsck up a box end wrench, fer crissake?
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[23:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:58] <exec> 08└─I expect the Russians and Saudis have already thought of that. The data could be collected in really subtle ways, such as a game that uses your location data somehow.
[23:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:00] <exec> 08└─For some reason my organization uses outlook for their email. This means if I buy plane tickets Microsoft reads my email and puts it on some a calendar I have never seen nor want they made for me. I don't want Microsoft to read my emails but do want to keep using that address.
[23:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:02] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming that you want in on that secret too... =) (not that there is anything wrong with that.)
[23:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:04] <exec> 08└─Black male/White female couple
[23:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 1173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:06] <exec> 08└─They may not be able to predict if you need to pick up milk and/or diapers for the kid on the way home. However, they will be able to predict how much money you make based on where you work, valuations/appraisals of houses where you live, and based on what type of store you shop at. Walmart, Aldi, G...
[23:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:09] <exec> 08└─So they can't keep an individual's records - so no following you around after the fact. But how many makes an aggregate? Tow data points? So you and your wife's phones... 3? Add 1 kid. 50? A single school bus...
[23:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:11] <exec> 08└─That's a nice one of your mom and sister. Got any others?
[23:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:13] <exec> 08└─This may be a crack at last year's "Black Lives Matter The Movie" ; although I don't remember an albino panther in it. Maybe it was just a token.
[23:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:15] <exec> 08└─(don't click it at work)
[23:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most Americans Don't Realize What Companies Can Predict from Their Data - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:18] <exec> 08└─They can't predict shit. They can interpret existing data, such as the location where one starts navigation being a luser's home or place of employment, but they can't predict that today I may just want to stop by the supermarket before going to work. Just as I can't predict whether Google's navigat...
[23:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:45] <exec> 08└─Slashdot has been neocon bullshit for as long as I can remember. Then Rob Malda went to work for the neocon Washington Post.
[23:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:47] <exec> 08└─I agree that it would take something special. Really, if you think about it, the Russians can take what they learn, shore up things they consider critical, and hopefully learn more to be able to better protect themselves in the future. It will leave them in a better position than when they started,...
[23:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:49] <exec> 08└─By now they are stockpiling cat's videos in order to achieve the success of the operation.
[23:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:51] <exec> 08└─The test is due to happen before 1 April but no exact date has been set.
[23:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Russia Plans Brief Disconnection From the Internet for Internal Traffic Test - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:53] <exec> 08└─Whatever makes you believe that things will become better when Putin goes? Why would his handpicked puppet replacement somehow do things differently? They have a system in place, it works for them. Sure it might suck a bit, or much, for the population in general but that is hardly their main concern...
[23:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:14] <exec> 08└─the networks which focus on user's privacy, [...] are quite deserted.
[23:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:15] <exec> 08└─How could you possibly tell? Stackoverflow communities are my social media now.
[23:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:18] <exec> 08└─I was driving around another city using OSM maps. It worked really well. I have have Google Maps (usually disabled) on my phone, but the OSM was better. Gmaps for accuracy. OSM for features, in particular l offline mode. Due to navigation disagreements I was at the point of it being worth shelling o...
[23:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Gone - Breaking Up With Big Tech - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:20] <exec> 08└─What about duckduckgo?
[23:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:38] <exec> 08└─Has anyone checked His grave in Palo Alto lately?
[23:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple’s Internal Hardware Team is Working on Modems Now - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:40] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we hung around for 3 days and nights, but nothing happened. I think we were lied to.
[23:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06A380 Cancellations by Qantas Raise new Questions About the Superjumbo's Future - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:28] <exec> 08└─That works out to 41,400 to 61,416 virgins that Allah has to allocate to his martyred followers every time one of these crashes into a US building. Is that sustainable??
[23:40:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 3280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:40:50] <exec> 08└─tl;dr: it goes back to marketing taking over the web, form over function and marketing materials didn't have 3d controls. I think it began in the late 90's, in fact I saw it happen first hand (but in just one of many many places where it happened round the world). It began when marketing noticed the...
[23:41:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Study Demonstrates Flat Design Interfaces are Measurably Worse - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:41:05] <exec> 08└─I caught one of those in my hipster trap (bear trap with a can of PBR on the plunger...) the other day. Oddly, convincing him that having only one leg was a "minimalist aesthetic" didn't seem to go over too well.
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