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[00:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:52] <exec> 08└─I was brought up Roman Catholic. I attended a Roman Catholic elementary school, a Roman Catholic middle school, a Roman Catholic high school, and a Roman Catholic university. In fact, I had plans to enter the seminary after getting my bachelor's degree, but that didn't work out for various reasons....
[00:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:53] <exec> 08└─Looks like our Old Runaway is still sitting on the porch yelling at "those people".
[00:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 1997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:55] <exec> 08└─Your argument is flawed. Just because you assert there exists a "highest truth", for some definition of highest, doesn't imply either that your argument is fallacious or that you're claiming to know what that "highest truth" is. For some definitions of "highest truth" assuming its existence is both...
[00:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:59] <exec> 08└─Wrong... pastafarian Muslims believe in the FSM.
[00:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:00] <exec> 08└─From TFS: This change occurred primarily because of the rise of modern science and a consensus among philosophers that arguments for the existence of gods, souls, afterlife and the like were unconvincing.
[00:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:02] <exec> 08└─Atheism has taken a hold of western civilization the past sixty or so years, and it has turned the western civilization to crap.
[00:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:04] <exec> 08└─Fools say "The only true god is this one." Wise men say "Really? Prove it." There. Fixed that for you.
[00:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:07] <exec> 08└─How are they Muslims then? Somali pirates fighting the good fight on the high seas against global warming?
[00:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:09] <exec> 08└─Apparition's belief is based on: The more we believe in our own supremacy, the more degenerate of a society we become. So I choose to believe.
[00:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:11] <exec> 08└─Replace Highest Truth with Dark Matter and you have the state of science today.
[00:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:13] <exec> 08└─So very few get this. Instead we get the simplistic fallacies exhibited in TFA. An assumption that the most ludicrous version of theism possible is the only version, beating up the straw man, declaring victory. Yes, Moses encountered something incredible, something even he didn't really have the voc...
[00:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:16] <exec> 08└─Doctors (the medical kind) are generally not scientists. Their medical training and practice is that of a skilled technician. You probably don't want someone experimenting on you.
[00:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:18] <exec> 08└─mine are based more around biology and computer programming
[00:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:20] <exec> 08└─I'm more interested in why Bot isn't helping the turtle.
[00:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:22] <exec> 08└─The capacity to embrace religion appears to be an inborn trait of humans. As far as I know, there have been no major civilizations that did not have religion.
[00:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:25] <exec> 08└─Your argument is flawed. Just because you assert there exists a "highest truth", for some definition of highest, doesn't imply either that your argument is fallacious or that you're claiming to know what that "highest truth" is.
[00:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:27] <exec> 08└─I completely disagree: 'believing' in something better or greater has led to too many problems in this world ("You don't believe in MY better/greater, I will kill you!" I have seen too many 'believers' who talk the talk, and "Jesus saved me!" and watched them fool around on their spouses, do drugs,...
[00:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:29] <exec> 08└─You think that's a rebuttal of some sort? Theists use terms like "faith" and "believe" while many atheists genuinely think their beliefs are facts. The latter isn't only less wise, it's actually provably delusional.
[00:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:31] <exec> 08└─Somewhere around the years 500 to 1700, give or take a few centuries, Christianity dominated Europe. People were serious about it, with the inquisition and all. Imagine if that hadn't happened. Europe would be under sharia. You could marry a 7-year-old, stone a slut, or chuck an LGBT from a rooftop....
[00:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:34] <exec> 08└─Fools say "There is no God." Wise men say "Fuck if I know." Any philosopher worth the name already understands this.
[00:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:36] <exec> 08└─I no longer believe in the existence of a god. I am not sure that I ever did. I was brought up by a Catholic mother and an atheist father. I took part in the rituals, even as an adult. Now, I believe that we can give meaning to life by attempting to leave the world a better place than it was when we...
[00:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:38] <exec> 08└─1. Are the religious philosophers and scientists older? 2. Are they able to think for themselves or are they more like sheeple? 3. .. 4. ??? 5. Pedophilic Profit!
[00:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:40] <exec> 08└─For starters, it gives a society a more or less unified and much more stable moral code. I very much prefer having many flavors of religion to one or none but if that were not an option I'd come down in favor of one. And not practice it.
[00:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:43] <exec> 08└─you should see my reply to Don Trump, above.
[00:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:45] <exec> 08└─What do you mean, tired of getting trolled into defending believers? You yourself essentially believe the entirety of reality is Yahweh's VMWare session, more or less. Has something changed your mind since last we spoke a couple of weeks ago?
[00:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:47] <exec> 08└─a sentient all-steel teapot made of marshmallows
[00:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:49] <exec> 08└─Fools say "There is no God." Wise men say "Fuck if I know."
[00:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:52] <exec> 08└─The more we believe in our own supremacy, the more degenerate of a society we become.
[00:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:54] <exec> 08└─It's done it by taking away any reason for people not to do whatever the heck they want. Now, I'm not saying that everyone needs to be told what is right or what is wrong, nor do they need some method to enforce it. But many people do, and the steady increase of atheism has slowly chipped away at so...
[00:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:56] <exec> 08└─Not much for the readin' of the history books are you? We've seen over and over what happens when we get only one religion, especially what happens to those who don't practice it. Mark my words, some of the souls of those who suffered and died in the various Inquisitions still linger in the places o...
[00:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Desalination Pours Billions of Liters of Toxic Brine into Oceans - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:38:05] <exec> 08└─presumably have higher concentrations of the target metals.
[00:39:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:04] <exec> 08└─What do you mean "again"? You're far more likely to be murdered today than you were in the actual wild west. Doesn't say much for the usefulness of having all these police around constantly invading our privacy and infringing on our liberties, does it? It's kind of odd that you'd think the states th...
[00:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:06] <exec> 08└─If you just calmed down for a second, you might have realized I meant the Civil War you guys had not so long ago when I put "again". The states you claim control the food and water of the rich states only do so because of the massive subsidies they are paid to do that farming. The rich states woul...
[00:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:08] <exec> 08└─they are unaccountable to anyone. Vee haf vays...
[00:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:10] <exec> 08└─the federal government's private key
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[01:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:39] <exec> 08└─Netflix, you are your own worst enemy.
[01:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:41] <exec> 08└─Now we can stop talking about religion, and, . . . NO! Fortnight? Bigger than HBO? Bigger than Netflix? Bigger than God? Repent, Soylentils! Truly this is the End of Times. Or at least of CableTV.
[01:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:43] <exec> 08└─Can someone explain fortnite's popularity to me? It doesn't seem like this game is any different than dozens of first person shooters that came before it. Why this one?
[01:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:45] <exec> 08└─"Can someone explain fortnite's popularity ?" - The masses are a bunch of IDIOTS. Fortnite is "popular" with them, in the same way that the "food" served at McDonald's is "popular" with idiots. Popularity doesn't mean it's good : popularity just means a lot of idiots like it.
[01:33:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 491 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:57] <exec> 08└─Once you have decided that there exists a Highest Truth that you can't demonstrate with evidence and such, you have given up your ability to observe, evaluate, and reason. No matter what you observe or are presented with you will evaluate it as subservient to that Highest Truth, even if it's evidenc...
[01:34:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 143 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:02] <exec> 08└─Still, despite the view of professional philosophers and world-class scientists, religious beliefs have a universal appeal. What explains this?
[01:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:37] <exec> 08└─"Fuck if I know," is really no different from "I don't hold that belief." There is a profound difference between lack of belief and active disbelief. Any philosopher or scientist who chooses the latter needs their credentials revoked on grounds of incompetence.
[01:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:39] <exec> 08└─For starters, it gives a society a more or less unified and much more stable moral code.
[01:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:41] <exec> 08└─History is precisely why I said what I did. It was in the context of a binary choice between one or zero. Stalin and Mao showed us which is the more bloody choice quite effectively.
[01:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:43] <exec> 08└─Science, medicine, and religion are not diametrically opposed. I know of a great many practicing Christian and Jewish scientists and doctors. So, scientific and medical progression doesn't necessitate atheism, or vice versa. Same for technology and agriculture.
[01:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:45] <exec> 08└─I agree, as long as you distinguish between believers and 'believers'. They may have gotten away with it, but (legitimate question) how many 'believers' are willing to say out loud, 'the Lord encourages me to do this [youtube.com]'?
[01:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:47] <exec> 08└─Marry a 7 year old, stone a slut, or chuck an LGBT from a rooftop... And what is the downside of sharia again?
[01:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:50] <exec> 08└─Yes. They do. They keep people from killing each other en masse over conflicting morality. That was demonstrated quite effectively in the 1860s. Now whether their intrinsic value outweighs a social change you desire is another matter entirely.
[01:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 3126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:52] <exec> 08└─Public service message: people, most often apologists for Islam or Christianity, attempt to smuggle their murderous demon of a God-figure into the discussion after they've softened you up with "well, there could be *a* God." Don't fall for it. Yahweh (and, so far, every other God-figure of his ilk.....
[01:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:54] <exec> 08└─Not quite. Nothing is taken away unless the religion is mandated. Voluntarily giving something up is not the same as having it taken. Even those who decide not to volunteer tend to share greatly in the morality of the religion of the majority if there is one though.
[01:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:56] <exec> 08└─Oh please, state communism and hard statism in general *are* religions. Remember all those pictures of Dear Leader which you weren't supposed to look directly at lest you go blind? If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has rituals like a religion, it's a religious duck.
[01:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:59] <exec> 08└─It's done it by taking away any reason for people not to do whatever the heck they want.
[01:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:01] <exec> 08└─Talking the talk is not the same thing as believing. Also, if you want to compare misdeeds records, you're going to want to get erase Stalin, Mao, and friends from the history books first. Active disbelievers have caused far more death and suffering in the past hundred years than believers have over...
[01:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:03] <exec> 08└─But why should we care for that teapot at all if we've searched and searched and still can't find it. Seems like after some time we can just write off the claim. What makes this god figure so totally unlike that teapot, and why does he need a starship/naquadah/nuclear war/etc exactly?
[01:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:05] <exec> 08└─Remember all those pictures of Dear Leader which you weren't supposed to look directly at lest you go blind?
[01:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:07] <exec> 08└─I don't fundamentally disagree. I'm not myself a theist but people speaking publicly as atheists have generally been incredible assholes and given the word a bad name, so I refuse to claim it. I think you'll find that societies enforcing atheism have caused far more death and suffering per time span...
[01:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:10] <exec> 08└─Fools say "There is no God."
[01:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:12] <exec> 08└─So, scientific and medical progression doesn't necessitate atheism, or vice versa. Same for technology and agriculture.
[01:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:14] <exec> 08└─Yes. Now get off my lawn, and stop throwing rocks at my dog.
[01:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:16] <exec> 08└─...it's actually provably delusional.
[01:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:19] <exec> 08└─Also, if you want to compare misdeeds records, you're going to want to get erase Stalin, Mao, and friends from the history books first.
[01:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:21] <exec> 08└─You're genuinely not getting the difference between uncertainty and affirmative disbelief? You might want to stay out of quantum physics.
[01:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Redundant) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 1865 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:23] <exec> 08└─You want a real answer? Well - it's all right there in their Koran. Anyone who leaves the faith is to be put to death. It's really that simple. The priesthood pries into every person's life, looking for anything "wrong" that they can punish, thus bolstering their authority. And, it's not just author...
[01:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:26] <exec> 08└─You're a fool for stating as fact something you believe but cannot prove. Moreover, you're an intentional fool for stating it after hearing its foolishness explained.
[01:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:29] <exec> 08└─Somali only believe in religion when it suits them. This can change from one minute to the next.
[01:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:31] <exec> 08└─Unilaterally expanding the definition to the point that it has no meaning is not going to win you this argument.
[01:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:33] <exec> 08└─You might want to stay out of quantum physics.
[01:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:36] <exec> 08└─Name the religions you believe were better than Christianity, if you would then. I'll be particularly noting the ones you're forced to leave out.
[01:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:38] <exec> 08└─Now you've done it! You have summoned Schroedinger's God! This will not end well. Or it will. No way of telling until we open the God-box. But then, I do know how Indiana Jones and the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" turned out. Don't open the box. Better not to know.
[01:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:40] <exec> 08└─So, if the Pope, and the other high ups who knew it was going on and helped hide it, are 'believers' and not Believers..... Not saying much for organized religion. I still say too many believers talk too much. More walking needed.
[01:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:42] <exec> 08└─She was a widow in her 20s. A muckety muck came along long after he was dead and decided they'd rather have a pedophile prophet than one who took sloppy seconds and retcon'd her as a child.
[01:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:45] <exec> 08└─Furthermore, a perfect being does not and indeed cannot create imperfection.
[01:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA's Juno Spacecraft Captures Jupiter's Massive Storms, Revealing Planet's "Striking Blemish" - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:17] <exec> 08└─I read a book once that featured the protagonist falling, sans spacesuit, through the atmosphere of a gas giant. He had been deposited within a ribbon of breathable air at survivable pressure and Earth-like gravity, I believe while riding in a boat, and it took him some time to realize what was happ...
[01:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:08] <exec> 08└─I also just have one kidney. Had kidney cancer, they caught very early it while looking for something else, so removal of the kidney removed all the cancer. Happy ending. Not entirely happy. When they take your kidney out, they take out the lymph nodes that hook up to your kidney as well. A small pe...
[01:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03wirelessduck [3407] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:09] <exec> 08└─The story is from Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, so unsurprising that the "journalist" hasn't done their research.
[01:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:11] <exec> 08└─And some people honestly want to lower voting age to 16. Are you fucking kidding me?
[01:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists ID Another Possible Threat to Orcas: Pink Salmon - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:41] <exec> 08└─Only if those particular orca know that trick and only if Pink salmon swim in schools. The Wikipedia article on carousel feeding [wikipedia.org] refers to "Norwegian orca" and "Norwegian herring" which is a strong indication it's a behavior seen in the North Atlantic. But also we need to note that s...
[01:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists ID Another Possible Threat to Orcas: Pink Salmon - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:42] <exec> 08└─Some species are so sensitive that a change in ambient noise will interrupt their breeding cycle and drive them extinct - most of those species are already extinct. Orcas are notoriously adaptable, I'm fairly sure that "too many pink salmon" isn't a problem that, by itself, would lead to mass starva...
[01:40:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:07] <exec> 08└─The 'blues' from Mississippi are nothing like the 'blues' from Hollywood. And thought they won't admit it, the reds suck more money from the feds than the blues. That's a big part of the national paradox. What color is the biggest welfare state? And open borders are a two way street. It's always abo...
[01:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:08] <exec> 08└─Hmm, didn't know the vehicle had a choice... What does the driver do? Adjust the climate control?
[01:40:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:10] <exec> 08└─Vell, ve had better make use of zose vays soon, before ze court ends up 7-2 hardline Neocon und ve end up back in zer nineteenth century viz ze "Vhites Only" signs all over zer place again.
[01:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:12] <exec> 08└─Those subsidies are there to keep food from commanding market value and starving those in cities who have no means to produce their own. No other reason.
[01:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:15] <exec> 08└─I've heard that argument before and it doesn't float any better now than it ever has. They keep voting to turn off the Open Wallet policy and the blues keep telling them no. I see no fault in trying to get a bit of your tax dollars that you had to pay for programs you don't want back through those v...
[01:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:17] <exec> 08└─Oh, I was talking about the musical style rather than state colors, by the way. People got tired of staying where they couldn't make ends meet and headed upriver, which is how we got the all that fine electric blues coming out of Chicago and Detroit.
[01:40:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:19] <exec> 08└─That is the exact opposite of what farming subsidies are for. They're actually to give the farmers a margin on the cost of production. Have you never wondered why farmers protest when anyone ever talks about taking their "incentives" away? If the farmers could make more money without the subsidies...
[01:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Summit Between President Trump and Kim Jong-Un Planned for Late February - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:59] <exec> 08└─B H Obama sold weapons to Vietnam, a country with endless human rights abuses. He bowed before foreign Monarchs, a much bigger stain on our countries honor than giving a compliment.
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[02:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:43] <exec> 08└─Fortnite is "free."Younger people tend to be very competitive, so they like shooters.Epic Games paid a bunch of YouTube and Twitch video game streamer "personalities" to play and recommend Fortnite.Children and teenagers tend to watch these YouTube and Twitch video game streamer "personalities" beca...
[02:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:45] <exec> 08└─I'm not a gamer, but it seems to me most games can't hold attention long enough to be a threat to a TV subscription. I see games like World of Warcraft which has no doubt made a hefty return on the original development investment, but how common are these games? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't m...
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[02:33:47] <exec> 08└─I don't play fortnight myself. But I know it's popular for the same reasons that Overwatch and TF2 are popular. The game is actually half decent. The majority of modern shooter games are, frankly, garbage. TF2 pioneered the "shooter that doesn't suck" genre, and 8-9 years later people wondering why...
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[02:33:49] <exec> 08└─I found this take: which I think is a much better piece than the Gamasutra piece. [variety.com] It starts: It may be mostly gamesmanship to downplay looming threats, but Netflix says it’s not really focused on rival streaming-video services from Amazon, Hulu, Disney, WarnerMedia or other big playe...
[02:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:52] <exec> 08└─I have x number of hours to have fun. Especially now that it's dark early I'm playing Dishonored 2 instead of watching TV. During the summer I'll be playing something different. I often have the "I'm tired of playing games, I should watch some TV show instead". Note how my goto is video games, not T...
[02:34:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 724 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:23] <exec> 08└─So very few get this. Instead we get the simplistic fallacies exhibited in TFA. An assumption that the most ludicrous version of theism possible is the only version, beating up the straw man, declaring victory. Yes, Moses encountered something incredible, something even he didn't really have the voc...
[02:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:16] <exec> 08└─Once you have decided that there exists a Highest Truth that you can't demonstrate with evidence and such, you have given up your ability to observe, evaluate, and reason.
[02:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:17] <exec> 08└─Boy it's a good thing Judaism and Christianity were never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever anything like this, nor is anyone from either of those two religions trying to impose theocracy anywhere in the world. Isn't it?
[02:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:19] <exec> 08└─Just think if the Mongols had managed to take all of Europe, except for Ireland, of course, to avoid the nasty "Irish Revenge" during the Mongexist. Lamaism, or northern Buddhism. Not quite your orthodox Buddhism, but still far superior to any monotheistic faith. For one thing, there is no god in Bu...
[02:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:21] <exec> 08└─Most forms of Buddhism. The more peaceful parts of Shinto, i.e., the ones not equating their Emperor with the Sun God and kamikaze'ing planes into the sea. The Egyptian pantheon. The Greek pantheon. Deism. Pastafarianism, insofar as that can be considered a religion. 19th century Spiritism. Some bra...
[02:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:24] <exec> 08└─Stalin and Mao showed us which is the more bloody choice quite effectively.
[02:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:26] <exec> 08└─The problem with this is that "there is a god" is exactly as evidence-free as "there is a sentient all-steel teapot made of marshmallows."
[02:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:28] <exec> 08└─Once you have decided that there exists a Highest Truth that you can't demonstrate with evidence and such, you have given up your ability to observe, evaluate, and reason.
[02:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:30] <exec> 08└─I am feeling a need for a "theology for Soylentils" journal entry. Azuma is correct. A perfect being does not create imperfect things, it just fails to create perfect things, so the lack of being that is imperfection does not actually exist, since it is not. But there is an entire doctrine of the Gr...
[02:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:33] <exec> 08└─Because it would be less perfect than a being that did not create imperfection. I know, this sounds like the old Holy Hand-grenade of Antioch scene after a while, but if it makes you feel any better, I'm just taking the old Thomists and their ilk to task and running with their ideas to the logical c...
[02:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:35] <exec> 08└─Fools say "There is no God." Wise men say "Fuck if I know."
[02:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:37] <exec> 08└─Atheism may not have caused the actions of Stalin and Mao, but because there was atheism there was nothing to hold them back. A religious set of ideals and morals would have caused people to realize how wrong it was.
[02:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:39] <exec> 08└─Well tell your dog to get back under the trailer.
[02:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:42] <exec> 08└─Neither is moving the goalposts, carrion-breath. At the end of the day, unthinking obedience to ANY authority, secular or religious, eventually leads to disaster, and it's no surprise that the trappings of religion pop up almost verbatim in dictatorships, because the common aim in both is control of...
[02:35:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:44] <exec> 08└─So nothing should ever be stated as fact. We will remember that whenever visiting whatever universe you live in. (Statement qualifier: Within 95% probability, one unknown variable, only some rules of reality apply, offer void in Nebraska)
[02:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, because as we all know, religion has never ever ever in all of history inspired, instigated, condoned, or encouraged genocide. Nope. Never. No~ope. And no religion has ever said it promises in effect infinite, eternal, endless, deathless genocide against non-believers. Nooooope. So superior. V...
[02:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:48] <exec> 08└─Not much for the readin' of the history books are you? We've seen over and over what happens when we get only one religion, especially what happens to those who don't practice it.
[02:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:50] <exec> 08└─Yes! My ancient aliens+lizard people+star{gate,trek} theory still has a chance! So, it is not certain, but it could be the case that Yahweh is a renegade Anunnaki [wikipedia.org]! The only evidence I have to offer is an explosion on the moon documented by Gervase of Canterbury (who I'm told is very...
[02:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:53] <exec> 08└─Theism tends to be a source of "don't do this" because "we said so", rather than "because it is actually bad."
[02:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:55] <exec> 08└─because there was atheism there was nothing to hold them back
[02:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:57] <exec> 08└─No, you're not. Stalin and Mao (and also Hitler but for different reasons) were not really atheists at all
[02:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 988 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:59] <exec> 08└─My shifting of POV supernaturalnatural to realabstraction is simply a way to disprove the universality of concepts/reasoning that people express and talk about, like they had actual meaning. (if creation needs a creator where is the creator's creator, where is the evidence of god, impossibility of o...
[02:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:02] <exec> 08└─Don't confuse the inability to prove universal negatives with specific negative cases.
[02:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 1253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:04] <exec> 08└─Your quotes argue that a famous scientist was a theist and another famous scientist was a strong agnostic. That does not validate either the conclusion that (a) these 2 scientists were beyond questioning, or (b) God exists. When it comes to the science at least, both have been demonstrated to be par...
[02:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:06] <exec> 08└─I was raised southern baptist. When I was 10-11 I started asking questions. The answers I got were all variations of "ya gotta have faith". If I had faith would I be asking these questions? Killer was the pastor did an entire sermon on the Beatles Revolution song. I'd heard the song and all I could...
[02:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:08] <exec> 08└─If you are going to use teapots in your examples/analogies, use Russell's teapot
[02:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03kai_h [1524] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mortal Kombat 11 has Rousey as Sonya Blade - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:23] <exec> 08└─MK11 - Featuring (the voice of) Ronda Rousey as Sonya Blade.
[02:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:35] <exec> 08└─A kidney? I thought they only cost an arm and a leg. Must be a new model.
[02:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:36] <exec> 08└─Attention whore getting attention.
[02:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 1636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:38] <exec> 08└─"'specify that unaddressed authority be reserved for the people over the states" The preamble defines both the origin of authority and the scope of the document when it says "We the people". The 10th amendment says: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited b...
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[02:43:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, but the "republicans" were always in favor. The "democrats" used to pretend they weren't.
[02:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Summit Between President Trump and Kim Jong-Un Planned for Late February - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:21] <exec> 08└─https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/05/24/us/politics/24jacob-cnd/24jacob-cnd-jumbo.jpg [nyt.com]
[02:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Crustaceans and a Tardigrade Found in Antarctic Subglacial Lake - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:49] <exec> 08└─True - but once you get deep enough that you can't find solid stone anymore, I'm willing to bet that nothing carbon-based can exist. Now if some sort of non-organic life arose independently in that inferno environment it would be deeply fascinating to study, but I'm not holding my breath. Though hey...
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[03:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:55] <exec> 08└─Hopefully the end of Cable TV. (or a least made to become a shadow of it current self.) Actually there are many cord cutters now... they are a minority but increasing every year. Many are going to Netflix... or Hulu.. or Sling... or one of the multiple other current and future competitors. Personall...
[03:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:57] <exec> 08└─Disney thinks people are prepared to pay $10 to stream CBS without ads?
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[03:33:59] <exec> 08└─I have not played Fortnight. (FPS is not my favorite type of game, linux is not supported, and I try to avoid "Freemium/Pay2Win" games.) I have played Factorio [factorio.com]. I have also played Rimworld [rimworldgame.com]. These are mind engaging games and I have over 1200 hours in each according t...
[03:34:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:29] <exec> 08└─Replace Highest Truth with Dark Matter and you have the state of science today.
[03:35:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 216 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:23] <exec> 08└─Boy it's a good thing Judaism and Christianity were never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever anything like this, nor is anyone from either of those two religions trying to impose theocracy anywhere in the world. Isn't it?
[03:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:16] <exec> 08└─He got a new iPhone, a good 7 years stretch, $300k AND now gets to stay in bed all day?
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[03:38:00] <exec> 08└─I was thinking of a fun possibility for Planet 9. Suppose it's a double planet? And, that each one was about 3 Earth masses? Might be a bit harder to find that.
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[04:33:40] <exec> 08└─French cars are often technically interesting, but aside from that they're pretty much crap with respect to quality and reliability. French cars are not even sold in the US market any more and there are good reasons for that, which relate to the aforementioned issues. Nissan builds a good product an...
[04:34:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:26] <exec> 08└─Fools say "The only true god is this one." Wise men say "Really? Prove it." There. Fixed that for you.
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[05:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:39] <exec> 08└─Given Renault owns a majority stake in Nissan, answering that question is probably not the driver for Renault; the question would be more like "What's in it for Renault?" This is an interesting move, makes the conspiracy theory of the arrest a signal from the Japs to the Frenchies to back-off seems...
[05:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:40] <exec> 08└─More importantly why now rather than after the dust settles a bit? This kind of fubar is why the Japanese are so resistant to mixing in foreign businesses in the first place. They wouldn't have had this crap in the first place if Nissan had remained under Japanese ownership. What the French have to...
[05:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:43] <exec> 08└─It's a bit late for the French government to intervene - since the imprisonment of Carlos Ghosn it was apparent that Japan wants to return the company to the Japanese System. Since Renault's leadership took over, the company has been pulled along the playbook of Western management, including changin...
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[05:33:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe they're just really annoyed with Frenchies making a mess in Japan. MtGOX's chief Mark Karpelès is out on bail in Japan, still waiting to be tried himself.
[05:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 1115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:03] <exec> 08└─To me, this has a specific meaning. If you watch Netflix, chances are by now you have multiple service subscriptions (Prime, etc.). So, essentially, you're not looking to pick the best medium to watch your show. Nope. You're basically paying for multiple cable packages (cheaper for now, but we will...
[05:34:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 189 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:17] <exec> 08└─doctors seem to beleive in a higher power (and possible participate in organised religion). Bucking trends [mdmag.com], or is it some social conservatism? Who knows, lets ask god. [nih.gov]
[05:34:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 155 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:23] <exec> 08└─They are using God for the fall guy in case things don't go as expected. Its a social thing. In the same vein that wearing a necktie legitimizes assholery.
[05:36:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 830 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:49] <exec> 08└─There's a couple of things wrong with this story. Being on dialysis does not mean that you're bedridden for life. My wife is on dialysis; she's been on dialysis for eight years. She gets up and walks around just fine. Yes, it sucks; she sits in a chair for four hours at a stretch, three times a week...
[05:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:22] <exec> 08└─Good luck with the reproction part.
[05:38:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exomoon Confirmation Remains Elusive - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:38:07] <exec> 08└─I don't see a large binary planet being split evenly like that. Works for some asteroid pairs, but multiple Earth masses? If two binary planet components were separated by a relatively long distance (like up to 1 AU), that could lower their brightness since they wouldn't appear as one object. It cou...
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[06:33:45] <exec> 08└─In Japan, the biggest market will be in funerals and crematoriums. They're going extinct.
[06:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:46] <exec> 08└─The price of used schoolgirl panties will skyrocket as they continue to have fewer children.
[06:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:48] <exec> 08└─At the time, Rensult had $.
[06:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:50] <exec> 08└─They'll just make their society do with less people. Decreasing demand for people is the way of the world, and a lesson Americans better learn before another generation is deep in debt trying to get a job that pays the bills.
[06:34:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 204 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:34] <exec> 08└─From TFS: This change occurred primarily because of the rise of modern science and a consensus among philosophers that arguments for the existence of gods, souls, afterlife and the like were unconvincing.
[06:35:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:36] <exec> 08└─Stalin and Mao showed us which is the more bloody choice quite effectively.
[06:35:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 331 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, because as we all know, religion has never ever ever in all of history inspired, instigated, condoned, or encouraged genocide. Nope. Never. No~ope. And no religion has ever said it promises in effect infinite, eternal, endless, deathless genocide against non-believers. Nooooope. So superior. V...
[06:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:37:29] <exec> 08└─Praise The Baby Jesus that I walk everywhere, I have may have seizures and do not. I'll come up with the money to join a gym even if I have to knock over a liquor store. THANK YOU for your warning AC. Were it that your warning not to have been the result of your great pain. :-(
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[06:41:34] <exec> 08└─KWallet FTW
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[07:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:55] <exec> 08└─Eonomy of scale, design skills, global reach.. in some cases, the cars are more alike [caradvice.com.au] than they seem. Don't forget India [wikipedia.org]
[07:35:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 1865 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:27] <exec> 08└─You want a real answer? Well - it's all right there in their Koran. Anyone who leaves the faith is to be put to death. It's really that simple. The priesthood pries into every person's life, looking for anything "wrong" that they can punish, thus bolstering their authority. And, it's not just author...
[07:35:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 171 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:37] <exec> 08└─Once you have decided that there exists a Highest Truth that you can't demonstrate with evidence and such, you have given up your ability to observe, evaluate, and reason.
[07:35:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 171 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:44] <exec> 08└─Once you have decided that there exists a Highest Truth that you can't demonstrate with evidence and such, you have given up your ability to observe, evaluate, and reason.
[07:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mortal Kombat 11 has Rousey as Sonya Blade - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:20] <exec> 08└─.;.and that's what makes MK awesome. You know, I don't think it's trying to be a thoughtful or accurate portrayal of anything. It's trying to be over-the-top and fun. And it works.
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[08:33:35] <exec> 08└─But too bad so much damage has already been done. Their easiest route would probably be to create an emergency point release for Debian and "merge" Devuan code back into Debian.
[08:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:37] <exec> 08└─I wish him a happy holiday. I'll be working hard!
[08:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03zeigerpuppy [1298] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:39] <exec> 08└─I really hope Debian maintainers come to their senses on systemd. SysVinit was/is far from perfect but at least it's a robust init system that does exactly that... init. I don't even know what systemd is anymore, but it feels like some ameaboid that took user 0 perms and then started vomiting code o...
[08:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:41] <exec> 08└─Why would merging be necessary? It may not even be desirable. All of the alternatives still exist, within Debian. All that need be done, is to package Debian to use an alternative init. Devuan is a done deal, they've split. It may not be possible for some of those people who left to come back into t...
[08:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:43] <exec> 08└─You are assuming that systemd is just another init system. There are entire sites devoted to the idea that it is a RH world domination scheme, instead.
[08:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:45] <exec> 08└─[laughs in AntiX]
[08:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:48] <exec> 08└─since he is the maintainer of systemd, he gets a medal for the inhuman effort and a lifetime supply of Valium. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO LAUGH THIS IS A TRUE STORY
[08:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:10] <exec> 08└─and eliminate a large conflict of interest prior to the proposed merger?
[08:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:11] <exec> 08└─Where those tentacles will move into? Inquiring minds want to know.
[08:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:31] <exec> 08└─Your friends say, "oh, let's eat at McDonald's -- or Wendy's or Burger King." Otherwise known as B.K. And I said to my tax guy, let's do B.K.'s, he did a double take. Anyway, your friends want to eat Fast Food with you, what do you do? What can you do -- you eat it, right? In massive amounts. And Fo...
[08:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:52] <exec> 08└─As pointed out in the comments and the summary itself, the story is from 2011. Apple is going down in flames in 2019.
[08:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New Summit Between President Trump and Kim Jong-Un Planned for Late February - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:43:41] <exec> 08└─https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/336226/75 [newsmax.com] Many such citations. Japanese emperor and the Saudi king for starters. I understand why he did it, a respect thing, but that doesn't make it right. Even if it was an unconscious thing someone needs to be fired for not coaching him.
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[09:33:47] <exec> 08└─Most of the non-systemd Linux distributions are only maintained by one or two core developers each and are therefore vulnerable to the bus factor [wikipedia.org]. A major Linux distribution backing away from systemd would be a welcome development.
[09:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:48] <exec> 08└─There is unlikely to be a merging of the two communities and that shouldn't happen. Devuan does more than just remove systemd by the way, as it tries to adhere more strictly to "Unix philosophy" and treats users needs as a high priority. More than that, there are attempts to improve upon processes b...
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[09:33:50] <exec> 08└─Debian is important because other distributions base themselves upon it, so decisions made by the Debian maintainers affect other distributions. While some people would prefer it if Debian mandated that packages were init-agnostic, the Debian maintainers have not done so*, and followed their own pro...
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[09:33:53] <exec> 08└─A major Linux distribution backing away from systemd would be a welcome development./ A major Linux distribution mandating packages support a choice of inits would be welcome. There is more to systemd than just the init. That said, I find it odd (read crazy) that choosing a particular Desktop Enviro...
[09:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:55] <exec> 08└─A major Linux distribution backing away from systemd would be a welcome development.
[09:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:57] <exec> 08└─IBM may have other plans
[09:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, time is very limited. Though not all games are the same, for example when playing single player strategy games, I can comfortably watch reruns of my favorite shows on another monitor.
[09:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:38:04] <exec> 08└─I certainly hope that I raise my own kids such that I can expect them not to sell body parts.
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[10:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:54] <exec> 08└─A major Linux distribution mandating packages support a choice of inits would be welcome.
[10:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:56] <exec> 08└─I have to agree with that diversity is a strength of GNU+Linux distros. Being able to choose a distro to fit any given need has always been a big bonus, but it's less and less if everyone does everything same as systemd attempts to do. It would be difficult for every distro to mandate init agnostici...
[10:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:58] <exec> 08└─While there are some valid concerns about systemd, soylentnews usually falls into an inebriation-driven strawman-hitting group-think delirium, missing those valid concerns entirely. If you read the thread, there seems to be indeed one inept developer. However, within a single day he gets overruled b...
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[10:34:00] <exec> 08└─In fact, it was Mr 'WONTFIX' Poettering who was the voice of reason. I thought, all-in-all this was a perfectly reasonable outcome, and it's a shame the Debian guy left half way through.
[10:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 2821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:08] <exec> 08└─And like all these things, since the days of Tenebrae Quake, etc. I think I'd rather have the non-raytraced version, that runs at a decent speed on sensible hardware. I compare it to the way that we don't have movie cameras that you can just take into a building and "film" without studio lights, met...
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[10:34:11] <exec> 08└─Hehe, he applied neural-network simulation processing after the noisy picture output. Much like our brain "smoothens" the raw eye data for us. I expect new phenomena out of this, like "blind spot", "blue/gold dress" etc. Also worth applying on real-world noisy videos such as night cam output.
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[10:34:13] <exec> 08└─What's "realistic" is defined when the NN is trained. Once in grasp of the "reality", it can be made to an insane amount of HDR or pastel colors or just gamma or whatever.
[10:37:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 378 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:37:32] <exec> 08└─"you can't expect a 17 year old to know better." Are you kidding me? At 10, I knew better than to sell bits of my body for any reason at all - let alone to buy a fucking consumer electronics product. If you reckon it's normal for a 17 year old nowadays to think a kidney is worth selling, it says som...
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[10:37:49] <exec> 08└─He is bedridden now, but not from dialysis. He is suffering from MODS since the surgery. This was caused by sepsis, which was caused by an infection he picked up, which was caused by bad post-operative care. The story conflated the bedridden state with having to have dialysis, when both those condit...
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[10:40:09] <exec> 08└─Couldn't you get Sodium from some other source(Sodium sesquicarbonate?) and make NaCl? (or make Potassium chloride or whatever.)
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[11:33:38] <exec> 08└─Don't you *&$%&#s dare make the battery thinner/smaller just because you've got better energy density! My phone is already too damn thin and doesn't last more than a day on a full charge. Back in myyy day I could go a week without charging. I'd like that experience again.
[11:34:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:04] <exec> 08└─A major Linux distribution mandating packages support a choice of inits would be welcome.
[11:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:08] <exec> 08└─IBM's bread and butter has been in selling expensive consultancy for their own, frequently overcomplicated and fragile, solutions. The invention of systemd is probably what gave them a hard-on for RH in the first place.
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[11:34:10] <exec> 08└─Really? To me it appears that Mr Biebl's notice on the mailing list is what prompted escalation of the issue and Pottering to consider that *maybe* breaking existing rules wasn't very nice .. but he really didn't seem all that concerned about it ... because the rule 'wasn't well written'. The fact r...
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[11:34:13] <exec> 08└─Devuan is still based upon Debian. There's absolutely nothing preventing the modified subset of packages being folded back in. And, with the creation of the debian-init-diversity list, there are people from several distributions collaborating on this, and some of the Devuan developers are pushing so...
[11:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score: 2) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:40] <exec> 08└─Nissan builds a good product and has for many years.
[11:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:30] <exec> 08└─They actually played NiN and Skinny Puppy.
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[12:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:39] <exec> 08└─The more energy stored will enable bigger explosions? If true, I don't want this in my smartphone.
[12:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:40] <exec> 08└─Too late... They already thought of it. :-) From the article: “Imagine a car having the same size battery as a Tesla that could travel 10 times farther or you charge 10 times less frequently, or the battery is 10 times lighter.” Anyway, for an electric car I'd gladly meet hem halfway: 5 times fa...
[12:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:42] <exec> 08└─We used to have a choice. The regular phone with the wires. The car phone. When you got out of the car, that one stayed there. Or, the portable phone. You carry it around, it's a briefcase. And it did phone calls. You had papers, too bad, better hire a guy to carry your 2nd. briefcase. If your phone...
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[12:33:45] <exec> 08└─The same size but smaller. The Metric System is very strange.....
[12:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:47] <exec> 08└─They could do the same size of explosions. But, 10 times more of them. Or, same size, same number. From a smaller & lighter phone.
[12:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:49] <exec> 08└─That's just the Canadian Metric System at work :-) The real Metric System works fine... Imagine how much greater America could have been using that... :-D
[12:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:51] <exec> 08└─5 times farther and "5 times lighter" needs energy density improvement factor of 25, not 10.
[12:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:24] <exec> 08└─Dunno how your family works but mine can exchange harsh words at Thanksgiving and be throwing back nog together at Christmas. We always eventually remember that standing by family is far more important than any disagreements we might have.
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[13:33:49] <exec> 08└─When I can buy it, then I'll be interested. Something tells me that if I come back to this article in 5 years time, the technology would have mysteriously dried up / been bought out / disappeared / be unheard of. Same as all the other battery tech advancements. Until, quite literally, I can pick one...
[13:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:50] <exec> 08└─Good to realize someone pays attention :-) But, yeah, 0.5 times the weight and 5 times farther would work fine too. :-D
[13:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:52] <exec> 08└─Wait for today's press release.
[13:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:55] <exec> 08└─Now with EVEN MORE PLASTIC
[13:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:57] <exec> 08└─I believe you should change your expectations. This is research, so naturally the chance of it getting real is tiny. As a matter of example, consider non-volatile no-moving-parts storage 10-15 yrs ago, we were in a very similar situation. 20 approaches published each year but no real progress. Today...
[13:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mini-Monsters with Multiple Heads Created in the Lab - 991 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:04] <exec> 08└─I understand that fiction is fiction and that science fiction is especially bad at "making things up for a good story." However, taking an immortal creature and then mutating it seems like recipe for things going horribly wrong. I doubt that it will end up with a grey-goo style disaster, or those "e...
[13:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:32] <exec> 08└─Gentoo is a major distribution, it's just not the major distribution for people who don't want to fundamentally understand their system.
[13:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:34] <exec> 08└─as long as you agree that I make a better potato salad, it's all good.
[13:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:36] <exec> 08└─systemD totally needs a bit-torrent subsystem : ]
[13:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mortal Kombat 11 has Rousey as Sonya Blade - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:31] <exec> 08└─Fine. You win.
[13:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:41:56] <exec> 08└─I see that you don't understand even the most basic supply and demand dynamics. I'd explain it but I get the impression you're not inclined to learn them.
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[14:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 8311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:40] <exec> 08└─The author of the GPL licensed text-mode casino game "GPC-Slots 2" has rescinded the license from the "Geek feminist" collective. ( https://lkml.org [lkml.org] ) ( https://slashdot.org [slashdot.org] ) [Notice: the revocation of the "Geek Femin...
[14:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:00] <exec> 08└─You go to the Coke machine, you put in your Quarters. But, no Coke. Because you put one in that doesn't say Quarter. It says 25 cents -- it's actually less. Big ugly Moose giving you the stink eye. Same size, less money -- so sneaky -- Canada!
[14:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mini-Monsters with Multiple Heads Created in the Lab - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:08] <exec> 08└─I don't believe something like this could end up causing a science fiction style disaster, because this creature doesn't evolve, as long as it stays immortal. It could get ugly if it reproduces at a fast rate, and its offspring inherits immortality though.
[14:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:39] <exec> 08└─I must admit I was slightly surprised at Michael Biebl being surprised. I mean this is systemd we're talking about here, not something sane. It's like being a courtier to Charles the Mad (an actual King of France who among other things thought he was made of glass and could break if touched) and thi...
[14:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 3531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:41] <exec> 08└─The author of the GPL licensed text-mode casino game "GPC-Slots 2" has rescinded the license from the "Geek feminist" collective. ( https://lkml.org [lkml.org] ) ( https://slashdot.org [slashdot.org] ) [Notice: the revocation of the "Geek Femin...
[14:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:43] <exec> 08└─Charles the Mad was made of glass though...
[14:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:45] <exec> 08└─Because of all the systemd bindings to packages that have nothing to do with init (which BTW is the single biggest architectural flaw of systemd), regular binary package distros pretty much have to make a choice, whether to support systemd while making everybody else 2nd class citizens where things...
[14:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:13] <exec> 08└─Knowing Renault controls Nissan, where's the conflict of interest when a major stakeholder of Renault advances the idea of a full merger?
[14:35:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:14] <exec> 08└─Detaining investors to force "regime change" in their companies is going to make people think twice about investing in Japan.
[14:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rupert Pupnick [7277] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:37] <exec> 08└─Also extensive character customization including “dance moves” ...
[14:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:02] <exec> 08└─People here seem to be taking the wrong moral from this message. Everybody is saying he's stupid to have sold his kidney, and he is. But the idea that "OMG, why did he let somebody cut into him?" is not the problem. The exact same thing could be said for a kidney donor trying to save the life of som...
[14:40:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Desalination Pours Billions of Liters of Toxic Brine into Oceans - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:59] <exec> 08└─This is the theory which has been said and restated for literally hundreds of years. See Malthusian Catastrophe [wikipedia.org], when the world population was something like 1/100th of what we have now. I'll fully agree there is some limit to the number of people the world can support, but why are a...
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[15:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:35] <exec> 08└─REAL social interaction doesn't require a computer. Get your sorry asses out in the real world and talk to people face to face. If you can't handle that, kill yourself. You will not be missed.
[15:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:37] <exec> 08└─But wouldn't that mean you need to talk to people in person (ie, "face-to-face")?
[15:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:39] <exec> 08└─I know the common thinking was that "Haha, no one uses Google Plus." While mostly true compared to Facebook and/or Twitter, it did have a few hundred thousand die-hard users. For some reason that I will never fathom, back around 2011/2012, most tabletop gamers gave up on blogs and online forums, and...
[15:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:48] <exec> 08└─You could more productively focus on things that would benefit every single American. For example: working towards Hawaii passing legislation that would protect great white sharks right to mate with any gender of their choosing.
[15:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:50] <exec> 08└─She also leads cage-free shark diving tours.
[15:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:11] <exec> 08└─Just for info, the role of graphite is to absorb the lithium ions after a discharge from the lithium alloy cathode to the graphite anode. Graphite has nice planes structure which means that lithium ions slide alongside the carbon atoms, and then slide right out again during a charge without too much...
[15:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:12] <exec> 08└─I found a nice linky with pics: https://batteryuniversity.com [batteryuniversity.com]
[15:34:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 552 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:45] <exec> 08└─Really? To me it appears that Mr Biebl's notice on the mailing list is what prompted escalation of the issue and Pottering to consider that *maybe* breaking existing rules wasn't very nice .. but he really didn't seem all that concerned about it ... because the rule 'wasn't well written'. The fact r...
[15:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:55] <exec> 08└─Than me? Almost certainly. I've never made any so as long as yours is better than an absence of potato salad, it's better than mine.
[15:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:57] <exec> 08└─There are entire sites devoted to the idea that it is a RH world domination scheme
[15:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:59] <exec> 08└─Devuan is still based upon Debian.
[15:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:01] <exec> 08└─First, it is amusing that you would use the monkey-banana-water-spary experiment even after Ballmer is no longer part of Microsoft. Second, nobody wants to be the first to break ranks and say The Microsoft Has No Clothes!
[15:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:03] <exec> 08└─Mmmmmmm . . . Us Poles have a couple of reputations. The first is for being stupid, and that is mostly unjustified. We have our share of stupids, but not excessive. The second is for being stubborn, which is entirely justified. My great aunts Helen (she with the flaming red hair and temper) and Mary...
[15:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:05] <exec> 08└─That particular bit of culture is likely a significant contributor to other demographics kicking your asses financially. Tight families are one of the strongest methods ever developed for wealth conservation and fiscal progression.
[15:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 1304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:08] <exec> 08└─"break a metric ton of machines" Redhat already did that once before, or does nobody remember that interface names made sense before redhat fucked them up? Systemd is a trojan horse. It always was. I get that it is important to know bus location of a card. But what makes more sense, serializing the...
[15:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06French Government Seeks Integration of Renault and Nissan Automakers - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:38] <exec> 08└─America
[15:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:26] <exec> 08└─"Hey, I have two brains, right? A right brain and a left brain! I'll just sell one of them!"
[15:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 866 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:27] <exec> 08└─I was amused that realDonaldTrump brags about being rich and implies that somehow makes his sperm more attractive to clients of a sperm bank. Then you point out how sperm donation now comes with the strings of child support (aka, wealth transfer) attached. On a different note, maybe "sperm donation"...
[15:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03EEMac [6423] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:29] <exec> 08└─At least one of our friends, and all of our nephews, have fully bought into the "must upgrade phone NOW" message. When they learned we had phones that were (gasp) two and three years old respectively, each of them said, word-for-word: "You have to upgrade." It was a knee-jerk reaction. There was lit...
[15:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exomoon Confirmation Remains Elusive - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:15] <exec> 08└─Well, I think a double planet is very unlikely, but it's still a fun thought. One thing about the simulations that show the existence of a Planet 9, is that by the chance of being the outermost of the giant planets, Neptune is awfully important, and the rest don't seem to much matter. But if there i...
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[16:33:45] <exec> 08└─lacking in options for a place to move to. There's always Facebook, but given the anti-Facebook culture prevalent in the G+ network
[16:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:47] <exec> 08└─The real world is vastly overrated.
[16:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:49] <exec> 08└─Yep. Like I posted above, many moved to Mastodon, Hubzilla, and/or Friendica.
[16:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:52] <exec> 08└─"The real world is vastly overrated." . Says the child who doesn't even know where the electric power that runs his computer comes from.
[16:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:12] <exec> 08└─Just a side note for the poster (and any other person really) that archive.is is in the process of being taken over, and archive.fo should be used. source: https://twitter.com [twitter.com] https://twitter.com [twitter.com]
[16:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:13] <exec> 08└─I modded you Funny. because the first 10 spamposts from you was a bit annoying, but now you've become sort of a meme to me apparently. I chuckled when I got to the end of the discussion and found your autistic OCD non-sense there. Can't promise I'll vote you funny next time.
[16:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:16] <exec> 08└─Good. I was able to mod him (MikeeUSA [wikia.com]) spam because you modded him up.
[16:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:27] <exec> 08└─A Quake II port only managing 1440P@60Hz? And we want these beyond pathetic numbers, why?
[16:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, BUT Fortnite only has 1 offering (the game) and is 2 decades younger than Netflix. Not really an apples to apples comparison there.
[16:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:13] <exec> 08└─It's because they can get people to write articles like these.
[16:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:42] <exec> 08└─I think the moral of the story might have been that when you have a black market operation, your post operative care(and operative care) is likely vastly inferior. So the safety of the entire procedure is likely quite a bit lower. ;)
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[17:33:35] <exec> 08└─This is probably why men wince every single time that they see another man get whacked in the family jewels.
[17:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:49] <exec> 08└─This is one of the reasons why it was so foolish of all those people to sign up with FB. When FB does horrible things, you have to move entire groups, similarly you're seeing that with G+ where everybody has to move and if they don't move to the same place, you get fracturing. It's not like back in...
[17:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:50] <exec> 08└─That's why I think it was stupid for people to move off of blogs and online forums and concentrate on Google Plus. It was brought up several times over the years by various people, but even a few years in when it was clear that Google Plus was largely a failure, "Oh, Google will never shut it down,...
[17:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:53] <exec> 08└─Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter! But seriously, I never knew of online tabletop gaming being managed online despite it being rather obvious. Been out of tabletop gaming for some years in a community (just Mrs. Lawn and I playing Zombiecide and some others o...
[17:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:55] <exec> 08└─I don't care if it's G+, Facebook, Twitter, or whatever else. Long read here about Swedish kids and Televerket, in the '80's. https://medium.com [medium.com] To summarize the story, kids discovered how to use the state-run phone syst...
[17:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:06] <exec> 08└─If they don't eat conservationists handed to them on a plate, even hot blonde ones, just what do they eat? BTW, that link choked my browser (FF 60.4) for a short while.
[17:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mini-Monsters with Multiple Heads Created in the Lab - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:37] <exec> 08└─Have you seen Kathy Griffin? I see her in nightmares. Horrible!!
[17:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mini-Monsters with Multiple Heads Created in the Lab - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:38] <exec> 08└─Is she holding your head? Barron's head?
[17:34:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Apparition [6835] 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 247 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:53] <exec> 08└─Most of the non-systemd Linux distributions are only maintained by one or two core developers each and are therefore vulnerable to the bus factor [wikipedia.org]. A major Linux distribution backing away from systemd would be a welcome development.
[17:34:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 1523 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:55] <exec> 08└─Debian is important because other distributions base themselves upon it, so decisions made by the Debian maintainers affect other distributions. While some people would prefer it if Debian mandated that packages were init-agnostic, the Debian maintainers have not done so*, and followed their own pro...
[17:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:24] <exec> 08└─http://www.humorpower.com/art-rulethree.html [humorpower.com]
[17:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:26] <exec> 08└─My 3 rules are Buy American. And Hire American!!
[17:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 1671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:28] <exec> 08└─From what I can gather: Lennart has a vision of how the entirety of Linux userspace ought to look. However, he also seems either unwilling or unable to articulate what that idea actually is in any form other than code, so instead of writing out some sort of design document he instead writes oodles o...
[17:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:39] <exec> 08└─Because real-time ray/path tracing is the future.
[17:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:40] <exec> 08└─This is another tool in the toolbox. Some will use it to great effect, others will use it sloppily (see HDR [resetera.com]). Your artists would suddenly be just model-makers and have to include the right wattage of lighting all the way down the entire underground level or you're just in a black pit...
[17:36:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Apparition [6835] 02 - 06Religion's smart-people problem: The shaky intellectual foundations of absolute faith - 897 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:49] <exec> 08└─I was brought up Roman Catholic. I attended a Roman Catholic elementary school, a Roman Catholic middle school, a Roman Catholic high school, and a Roman Catholic university. In fact, I had plans to enter the seminary after getting my bachelor's degree, but that didn't work out for various reasons....
[17:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mortal Kombat 11 has Rousey as Sonya Blade - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:38:35] <exec> 08└─Don't worry about the guns. Worry about the way these very violent Games & Movies are shaping young people’s thoughts -- big problem. "Congress should fund research into the effects that violent video games have on young minds." Barrack Obama. Need Rating System!!!
[17:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:59] <exec> 08└─His family was awarded $300k in compensation - that's probably more than he could earn his entire life.
[17:40:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:00] <exec> 08└─He's not dead, though, or even unable to reproduce - he's just bedridden.
[17:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most Users Don't Know Facebook Keeps a List of Their Interests, Traits - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:58] <exec> 08└─Um, no. You have to log into the Facebook with your login. (TFA is about Facebook, not browsing in general.) Sure, you may have concealed your location and whatnot... but you are STILL giving Facebook what you're interested in, how long you look at it, what you click on, what you don't, what videos...
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[18:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:38] <exec> 08└─“saying it would not be mandatory”. At least, not at first. Wait until people get used to the idea, then the rules will change ever so slightly.
[18:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:40] <exec> 08└─Trump should focus on repealing all the unnecessary and poorly written laws and regulations, not adding more crap.
[18:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:48] <exec> 08└─Quite likely. It's also quite possibly an evolved survival trait given that an aversion to repeated pain is a good thing if you're doing potentially dangerous tasks (since it incentivizes you to figure out ways to avoid pain and thus injury in the future) but highly undesirable in people who have to...
[18:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:06] <exec> 08└─other than search and gmail, is there anything google hasn't orphaned?
[18:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:07] <exec> 08└─AdSense, Doubleclick, and YouTube.
[18:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:42] <exec> 08└─Why wait? Why not release the press now? Especially if someone is caught in that press. Is this press on some sort of time lock?
[18:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:43] <exec> 08└─If smaller phones can have bigger explosions, then shouldn't the TSA be taking them away?
[18:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:42] <exec> 08└─Lennart Poettering was also behind PulseAudio [wikipedia.org], which generates heated opinions as well. It is not welcomed with unalloyed enthusiasm, and certainly, my experiences of its use on Ubuntu-based distributions (which Poettering says have not integrated Pulseaudio properly) is poor - pavuc...
[18:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:55] <exec> 08└─Okay, I just held some printer paper up to the screen and tried it on this picture [wikimedia.org]. I don't get the difficulty.
[18:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:56] <exec> 08└─You have two working eyes. Ray and GPUs are blind.
[18:37:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Religion's Smart-People Problem: The Shaky Intellectual Foundations of Absolute Faith - 215 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:21] <exec> 08└─You think that's a rebuttal of some sort? Theists use terms like "faith" and "believe" while many atheists genuinely think their beliefs are facts. The latter isn't only less wise, it's actually provably delusional.
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[19:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:39] <exec> 08└─Wow...rather than this Orwellian approach, how about we just overturn existing "voter id" laws and all the other voter suppression efforts put through under the guise of preventing voter fraud that's never actually happened? How's that for a plan?
[19:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kalas [4247] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:40] <exec> 08└─FUCK NO!
[19:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:42] <exec> 08└─Well it's slightly less concerning given this quote from the article: “A lot of people are against a national photo ID,” said Wachtel. “[Our proposal] is nothing more than affording every citizen, who already has a Social Security card, the option of having the photo put on the card so they ca...
[19:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:45] <exec> 08└─It is just another thing for the government to spend 10x more than necessary on. I remember when I got my last drivers license update, the middle eastern guy in front of me was repeating "Jan x, 197x" over and over like he was trying to memorize his birthday. Then the cameraman burst out laughing sa...
[19:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:47] <exec> 08└─Look, I'm against a national ID as much as the next anti-big-government guy. Saying having to present an ID to vote is suppressing minority voting is some epically racist bullshit to be saying on Dr. King's birthday though. Do you genuinely believe black folks are too stupid or poor to fill out a fo...
[19:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 1224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:49] <exec> 08└─There already IS a national ID, called a "passport", which SUPERSEDES state ID like a driver license. It might be convenient to have a passport-level-of-trust ID that was good EVERYWHERE in the country - ALL states, ALL purposes - and was also a wallet-sized card instead of a booklet. (Hint: Global...
[19:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:51] <exec> 08└─So like a wallet sized version of a passport? It exists: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:54] <exec> 08└─I believe that folks in hourly wage jobs have more trouble getting to the state DMV two counties over during banker's hours, especially if they don't drive and the DMV is on some highway with no sidewalks. On the other hand, my father, a lawyer born and raised in New York City, NEVER DROVE and NEVER...
[19:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopdevil [3356] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:56] <exec> 08└─I'm struggling to figure out what problem this is a solution to, though.
[19:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:58] <exec> 08└─Do you genuinely believe black folks are too stupid or poor to fill out a form and pay $15?
[19:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 614 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:00] <exec> 08└─Which would beg the question: Why is it the Federal government's job to issue any kind of ID? (Hint: the first sentence here [wikipedia.org] might give the reason why they exist.) Maybe a Federal identification used for purposes other than international travel would be the next step along the lines...
[19:34:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 335 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:09] <exec> 08└─Quite likely. It's also quite possibly an evolved survival trait given that an aversion to repeated pain is a good thing if you're doing potentially dangerous tasks (since it incentivizes you to figure out ways to avoid pain and thus injury in the future) but highly undesirable in people who have to...
[19:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:11] <exec> 08└─Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do Correct, most women wouldn't continue to read SoylentNews.
[19:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:13] <exec> 08└─Do more men than women switch from Windows to Linux?
[19:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:33] <exec> 08└─Why are you so hostile? How are people not being able to talk to other people hurt you in any way? What's your major malfunction?
[19:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:44] <exec> 08└─Internet trolls.
[19:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 3419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:08] <exec> 08└─I have some serious problems with systemd. The Logging facilities are atrocious, and the software is poorly documented, unintuitive, and non-deterministic in some instances. Mostly though, I dislike it because the lead developer is so arrogant he has no problems dumping decades of status quo built f...
[19:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:10] <exec> 08└─:) The thing is that in 2019 we don't want a distro that requires a double PhD in CS. We need something to put on a disc/usb and hand it to Joe Public, Auntie May, install for family, friends - and not open up a can of whoopass that immunises them from ever trying Linux again. So we need a mainstrea...
[19:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:12] <exec> 08└─Opinion: It seems distribution developers are starting to get the stick too, not just users with their "errors" (taken from a reply). Will distributions finally wake up or is that they don't still grok the attitude of projects like this?
[19:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:14] <exec> 08└─The fact that the open source community didn't dump Gnome on the trash heap of software history when they did so has always astonished me.
[19:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:17] <exec> 08└─Yes, IBM's bread and butter, since the early 60s, has been: "we make it so complicated, you need us to help you manage it for yourself. Systemd fits right into that mold.
[19:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:19] <exec> 08└─Just like Ubuntu add featureware onto Debian and Mint in turn repair the damage from both upstreams. Hey, what would we call a Mint derived from Devuan instead of Debian? Muant?
[19:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:21] <exec> 08└─Oops, your iPhone was made in China by not one American worker. Buy/Hire American indeed...
[19:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:23] <exec> 08└─I don't know if the problem is with Firefox, Ubuntu, or PulseAudio,
[19:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:25] <exec> 08└─Debian puts the poison in, and then Devuan takes it back out.
[19:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:28] <exec> 08└─IoT devices will still be capable of being operated without systemd as there are strong incentives to do so:
[19:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:30] <exec> 08└─So, like I said then. Also, just a side note, if you're a competent sysadmin, you don't play it all day long. You hardly ever have to play it at all because you've automated away everything that doesn't require your constant attention.
[19:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Q2VKPT: An Open Source Game Demo with Real-Time Path Tracing - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:45] <exec> 08└─Well the solution's obvious then, just use this one [nocookie.net] instead. Geez, you'd think they would have thought of this before.
[19:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Claims Fortnite is Now a Bigger Competitor than HBO - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:32] <exec> 08└─I imagine the executives at Disney who make those sorts of decisions have no clue what their potential customers want.
[19:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sen. Marco Rubio Wants to Ban States from Protecting Consumer Privacy - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:15] <exec> 08└─You're delusional if you think farmers are anything other than price takers. Any search will explain it to you.
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[20:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:42] <exec> 08└─I made the assertion that it was good because the application was for legitimate medical reasons that posed life-threatening risks to patients, and all FUD about the "risks" of genome editing were stupid and facile in the face of actual application. I would like to revise my position on the grounds...
[20:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:43] <exec> 08└─http://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/69460068 [4channel.org] (Also a picture of lain, who is a good girl)
[20:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:45] <exec> 08└─any experimental medical treatment that forges ethics reviews is not an experimental treatment at all
[20:34:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 91 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:03] <exec> 08└─Do you genuinely believe black folks are too stupid or poor to fill out a form and pay $15?
[20:34:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:06] <exec> 08└─If it exists, more and more things WILL require it, you can bet on that. I don't have or need one now and I don't want to. I'm struggling to figure out what problem this is a solution to, though.
[20:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:08] <exec> 08└─I remember when I got my last drivers license update, the middle eastern guy in front of me was repeating "Jan x, 197x" over and over like he was trying to memorize his birthday.
[20:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:11] <exec> 08└─Really, why is this needed? We already have a well accepted form of national ID: A passport. You can even get a passport card to carry in your wallet now (good for ground entry into Canada/Mexico as well). We also have this at the state level: Drivers license or State ID (if you don't want/can't get...
[20:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:13] <exec> 08└─Only about 40% of americans even bother to vote, and of those, half deliberately choose the most disgusting, psychopathic, degenerate piece of shit candidate, just for the lulz or to stick it to the "establishment", whatever the fuck that is.
[20:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:15] <exec> 08└─I don't know, even MDC can get his hands on $15. I should also note that the Obamacare individual mandate (R.I.P.) was asking a lot more than $15, for a lot less than being able to vote.
[20:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:26] <exec> 08└─Without this difference no woman would have a second child.
[20:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:47] <exec> 08└─BBS's should make a comeback! maybe we can just use ssh instead of telnet to keep it at least a little secure. getting people to change their ways from emojis and pictures to actual writing might be hard though. but sometimes it requires effort to be social anonymously and without adults/capitalism...
[20:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:48] <exec> 08└─What about the people who moved off Orkut to Google+?
[20:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:00] <exec> 08└─There is a serious point to be made, despite the stupid comments. The oceans of our planet have had sharks for something like 420 million years. About the only organisms that have been around longer are the jellyfish. Something like 100 million sharks are murdered every year for stupid "traditiona...
[20:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mini-Monsters with Multiple Heads Created in the Lab - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:37] <exec> 08└─I initially thought that the word "Meth" was inadvertently omitted from the headline. Imagine my surprise.
[20:36:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 219 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:02] <exec> 08└─IBM's bread and butter has been in selling expensive consultancy for their own, frequently overcomplicated and fragile, solutions. The invention of systemd is probably what gave them a hard-on for RH in the first place.
[20:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:38] <exec> 08└─Your volume problem is what systemd calls "Flat volumes [freedesktop.org]" (/etc/pulse/daemon.conf: "flat-volumes = yes"), where the application volume is relative to the hardware's maximum volume and scales the master bus to the loudest application. It's a copycat of Windows' mixer since Vista or s...
[20:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:39] <exec> 08└─Debian distributes non-free, just makes it clear and opt-in. With modern computers, it's more probable that you need the non-free installer than the fully free. Even if you do the extra hops (extract disk and install by debootstrap, eg), you will have to install non-free to get things working (or bu...
[20:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:42] <exec> 08└─That would be a good thing for Mint to take notice of.
[20:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:44] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you misunderstand. Debian is committed to no non-free packages. In order to add something non-free to debian, the user must specifically seek out and add it manually. This is in stark contract to Devuan, who couldn't care less, and who install non-free packages automatically and silently, pr...
[20:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:46] <exec> 08└─PS: If you're writing network security scripts, or "Portable Security Policies" and can't be bothered to figure out how to make it device name agnostic, WTF are you doing writing "security scripts" in the first place? Seriously? Shell variables, Environment variables, SED, M4, Even Perl will fix tha...
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[21:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:35] <exec> 08└─I trust doctors so much more now that they are suppressing information about the outcomes from past treatments. But really, the loss of trust has been going on for awhile. That is why so many people are turning to (mostly) placebo homeopathic/naturopathic treatments. At least these treatments are le...
[21:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:46] <exec> 08└─How do we know he didn't forge the results? Until someone can follow his instructions and replicate this then who cares? Plus his results looked too good to be true since the "genetically modified" embryos actually survived better than normal ones. Since when does chopping up their dna lead to incre...
[21:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's exactly why routine trivial violations of medical research process guidelines are enough to completely reverse my perception of the whole thing. Science, as a process, is more vulnerable to fraud and lax procedure than we usually give it credit for.
[21:34:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 491 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:04] <exec> 08└─I believe that folks in hourly wage jobs have more trouble getting to the state DMV two counties over during banker's hours, especially if they don't drive and the DMV is on some highway with no sidewalks. On the other hand, my father, a lawyer born and raised in New York City, NEVER DROVE and NEVER...
[21:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:13] <exec> 08└─I can tell you what good it would do: Those who voted for Trump are generally government-distrusting people. That is, people who are the least likely to get such an ID card. If such an ID card is required to vote, then it would remove those voters. ;-)
[21:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:15] <exec> 08└─Presumably a national ID card would state whether you are a citizen or not. Some states, like California, will give their state drivers' licenses out to non-citizens, so possession of a state ID card proves nothing as far as citizenship goes. The reason this may be considered a civil rights issue is...
[21:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:18] <exec> 08└─A drivers license isn't meant to be a security document. It's primary and original purpose is to show that you passed some instructional classes and a written test showing you know how to operate a standard vehicle and know what most traffic signs mean.
[21:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:20] <exec> 08└─You have to show ID to buy a pack of smokes which are basically only self-harmful, but it's such a burden to produce an ID to vote? I'm a lefty and I'm just not bothered by it.
[21:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:22] <exec> 08└─The solution is to make the ID card (as distinct from a driver's license) free. I'm not going to do an exhaustive search of states with free ID cards, but here's how to get one in Wisconsin: https://www.bringitwisconsin.com [bringitwisconsin.com]
[21:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:24] <exec> 08└─A Federally issued photo ID that "... would not be mandatory and would only be an option for those who sought it."
[21:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:27] <exec> 08└─I agree. Clinton voters are gross.
[21:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 4600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:29] <exec> 08└─While I am usually against anti-privacy things, I actually like the idea of a National ID card. But, for my support, it needs to replace the others. Get rid of State Drivers Licenses, State/County IDs, and even social security and medicare cards. Replace them all with this one single entity. As for...
[21:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:31] <exec> 08└─Its primary purpose is to prove you are old enough to buy booze and cigarettes.
[21:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:33] <exec> 08└─Wasn't there a youtube video where they interviews a bunch of racists at berkely who said blacks were too dumb/lazy/poor/whatever to get IDs , and then went to harlem (in NYC) where everyone had an ID and even knew exactly where the nearest DMV was?
[21:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:36] <exec> 08└─When is he going to start doing that instead of pushing for the unnecessary walls?
[21:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:38] <exec> 08└─half deliberately choose the most disgusting, psychopathic, degenerate piece of shit candidate
[21:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:40] <exec> 08└─Look, if people want to vote for Hillary, that's their right.
[21:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:42] <exec> 08└─You could make the ID card a tax writeoff... It might be already anyway. It should be at least.
[21:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:45] <exec> 08└─I don't know. This whole wall thing looks like some sort of theatre. Why did he wait for democrats to have the majority in the house of representatives to do this? And since when do democrats care if the government pisses away $5 billion on some pork spending? The whole thing looks like a distractio...
[21:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:47] <exec> 08└─Which would beg the question: Why is it the
[21:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:49] <exec> 08└─Which would beg the question
[21:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 1351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:51] <exec> 08└─The same reasons they would have problems showing up for jury duty, are the same reasons they have problems commuting two counties over, waiting in line for an hour, showing supporting documents, paying for transportation, and finding the time off work. Employers are fucking demons and don't give tw...
[21:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:53] <exec> 08└─Two counties over? Where are you located, that some counties don't have a DMV office? All of the offices that I know of are located in downtown areas, accessible to wheelchairs, or whoever might come along. The hardest thing about getting to a DMV is learning where it is located. More conspicuous si...
[21:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:56] <exec> 08└─The solution is to make the ID card (as distinct from a driver's license) free.
[21:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:58] <exec> 08└─So, the guy who juggles three jobs, can't find time to get to the DMV? Or to vote? I don't think you give him enough credit.
[21:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:09] <exec> 08└─I can't believe in this day and age we could have such a transphobic patriarchal intolerant article. Women and men are the exact same in every way and its all about how you feel. Did they judge the "men" and "women" based on their gentic sex or their identified gender? If so, why didn't they look at...
[21:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:11] <exec> 08└─It's possible too that reinjury is worse than injury so there might be evolutionary advantages to behavioral quirks that enccourage you to not get injured in the same place twice. but highly undesirable in people who have to go through the pain of childbirth.
[21:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:13] <exec> 08└─From TFS: Closer examinations revealed that, at least in mice, the context-dependent pain hypersensitivity was dependent on testosterone. The pain memories disappeared in castrated male rodents, and it emerged in ovariectomized female animals infused with testosterone.
[21:35:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Apparition [6835] 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 1164 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:23] <exec> 08└─I know the common thinking was that "Haha, no one uses Google Plus." While mostly true compared to Facebook and/or Twitter, it did have a few hundred thousand die-hard users. For some reason that I will never fathom, back around 2011/2012, most tabletop gamers gave up on blogs and online forums, and...
[21:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:36] <exec> 08└─from the wall socket that mommy said i should stop poking with my fork because the electricity monster doesnt like that duh!
[21:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:38] <exec> 08└─But can your "real world" do Angst+? I think not!
[21:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:40] <exec> 08└─You will not be missed.
[21:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:52] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you think my comment was stupid but there was in fact a serious question in there. Which is : what do these things eat and why do they not eat a human being even when it would be easy to do so?
[21:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:54] <exec> 08└─Maybe they eat when they're hungry, not just because there is a buffet line like obesity Joe at the buffet line. The lady probably knows her thing and not to lead herself or her customers into the water where sharks are looking for a feeding. That particular great white probably stuffed itself full...
[21:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, this. Takes only one success. We had dozens of ideas for dramatically improving batteries. It's really only a matter of time before we find one that overcomes all the problems and leads to clearly better batteries. And we've already seen big improvements. Lithium based battery tech is really no...
[21:37:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 3419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:21] <exec> 08└─I have some serious problems with systemd. The Logging facilities are atrocious, and the software is poorly documented, unintuitive, and non-deterministic in some instances. Mostly though, I dislike it because the lead developer is so arrogant he has no problems dumping decades of status quo built f...
[21:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:38] <exec> 08└─While I personally haven't run into any of the systemd issues that other people have reported, I can respect the current outcry of systemd being a sprawling mess that sticks its fingers in things it has no business too. The thing is, the old init system is crap. Large swaths of quasi-system level an...
[21:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:39] <exec> 08└─"his is in stark contract to Devuan, who couldn't care less, and who install non-free packages automatically and silently, providing them whether needed or not."
[21:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, Debian cares... latelly without long term vision: 4. Our priorities are our users and free software We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software community. We will place their interests first in our priorities. We will support the needs of our users for operation in many...
[21:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:44] <exec> 08└─Olimex tries to use whatever is avaliable, so if Debian has systemd, that's what they use, no optimizations. Now Olimex is even trying more generic images, one that supports multiple versions instead of a single board, to reduce work. They picked Ubuntu Bionic Desktop and Debian Stretch Server as ba...
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[22:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:36] <exec> 08└─"Every good doctor has a personal cemetery."
[22:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:38] <exec> 08└─And so does every bad doctor. Obviously that isnt a suitable metric for assessing the performance of a doctor. Also, doctors know how to game these numbers and will often refuse to treat difficult cases.
[22:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:40] <exec> 08└─This is similar to attorneys. The success rate is something to consider, but there's a big difference between professionals that only take easy cases and those that take more difficult ones. If a doctor is losing tons of patients that have difficult to treat conditions or are old, that's one thing,...
[22:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:37] <exec> 08└─I know multiple people who don't drive. They all have state ids? Why?
[22:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:39] <exec> 08└─I've never had to show supporting documentation to renew my driver's license. I walk in, show my expired or expiring DL, slap some cash on the counter, wait a few minutes, step in front of the photo screen, and five minutes later, I'm out the door with a still warm laminated card in my wallet. BUT,...
[22:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:41] <exec> 08└─That seems contrary to what Dems are always telling us. An ID card will supposedly remove the Dem voting base: illegals, blacks who are too ignorant to get to the DMV, and ????
[22:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:43] <exec> 08└─Double plus good: .gov gets a photo for their face recognition software.
[22:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:45] <exec> 08└─It might be convenient to have a passport-level-of-trust ID that was good EVERYWHERE in the country - ALL states, ALL purposes
[22:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:48] <exec> 08└─I'm sure your state still collects SSNs, even if they don't put them on their licenses. Plus, how did you get your current license without presenting your old one? If you haven't gone through what GP went through yet, you're lucky your old state forgot - for now. There's no statute of limitations fo...
[22:35:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Apparition [6835] 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 34 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:20] <exec> 08└─AdSense, Doubleclick, and YouTube.
[22:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Come Face to Face With Huge Great White Shark - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:42] <exec> 08└─I wasn't getting at you specifically, but sharks eat whatever doesn't eat them. Most sharks don't eat people because humans are not really a recognized prey, (or, of course they're not big enough) but of course a surfer in a wetsuit looks a lot like a seal, so they do get bitten every now and then....
[22:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Silicon Particles Could Power Lithium Ion Batteries with 10 Times More Capacity - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:09] <exec> 08└─When you can buy it, it will have an energy density far greater than that of a hand-grenade. And you'll keep it in your trouser pocket. Better breed soon, just in case something nasty takes all three legs off.
[22:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:31] <exec> 08└─That's was a popular conspiracy theory until IBM bought Redhat
[22:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:32] <exec> 08└─Upstart lost most of its momentum when Ubuntu switched to systemd, but it still exists. Gentoo has OpenRC, which is like sysVinit but with much less cruft. There are only so many choices in the init system department. I think there are one or two other systems that are not widely used.
[22:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:34] <exec> 08└─Scripts can be improved: ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: lvm2-lvmpolld # Required-Start: $local_fs # Required-Stop: $local_fs # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 # Default-Stop: 0 1 6 # Short-Description: LVM2 poll daemon ### END INIT INFO DESC="LVM2 poll daemon" DAEMON=/sbin/lvmpolld DAEMON_ARGS="-...
[22:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One of Debian's Developers Takes Vacation from Packaging systemd - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:37] <exec> 08└─It's not just "beginners." When you have a server with multiple interfaces and need the names to never change, you can be expected to be someone who knows what they are doing and can enable this feature. On the other hand, most desktops, laptops, and many servers have only one interface, or maybe on...
[22:40:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Religion's Smart-People Problem: The Shaky Intellectual Foundations of Absolute Faith - 312 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:40:14] <exec> 08└─Neither is moving the goalposts, carrion-breath. At the end of the day, unthinking obedience to ANY authority, secular or religious, eventually leads to disaster, and it's no surprise that the trappings of religion pop up almost verbatim in dictatorships, because the common aim in both is control of...
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[23:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:48] <exec> 08└─So, I ask: Which is better: losing the professional to endless retribution, or have them subject to professional review / scrutiny, and give them a chance at rehabilitation? The same goes for anyone, really. Someone on probation is already being watched. Do we (your average citizen / jobs provider)...
[23:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Revek [5022] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:50] <exec> 08└─Remove all reference to them including what they want kept. I'm thinking google shouldn't limit themselves just to their illegal actions but remove all content pertaining to them including articles about the victory over them. The right to be forgotten is just giving them a second chance to commit a...
[23:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dutch Surgeon Wins Landmark 'Right to be Forgotten' Case - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:52] <exec> 08└─"Society" prefers direct retribution. Societ y is just a mob with (some) enforced limits. Burnings, lynchings, summary justice and the rest are all about mob behaviour. Elected judges appeal to this by having "lock-'em up" platforms (and history) Bill Clinton as Governer refused clemency for a badly...
[23:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Confirms That He Jiankui Illegally Edited Human Embryo Genomes - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks for revising your position. It is sad how rare that seems to be these days. HIV was not a legitimate medical risk to the babies as the mother was HIV negative and, even if she were HIV positive, there are treatment protocols that substantially reduce vertical transmission. Furthermore, there...
[23:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:56] <exec> 08└─Tax write-off is not free of charge. if one is under the threshold to pay taxes, the one pays for it in full.
[23:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:58] <exec> 08└─I know multiple people who don't drive. They all have state ids? Why?
[23:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:00] <exec> 08└─And since when do democrats care if the government pisses away $5 billion on some pork spending?
[23:35:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:02] <exec> 08└─And being over the (elevated) personal exemption. That was a real "let them eat cake" comment.
[23:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:05] <exec> 08└─Passports currently don't have an address that can 1) serve as proof of residency for voting purposes, and 2) provide the government with a current address to send the SWAT team to at 4am. If I move, I do not have to get my passport updated. I am required to update my state record. If I didn't drive...
[23:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:07] <exec> 08└─That which is not forbidden is mandatory
[23:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:09] <exec> 08└─Then add it to the refund check.
[23:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:11] <exec> 08└─Myth? They are available in every single state: https://www.dmv.org [dmv.org] Sorry, but if you don't know anyone with a state id instead of a license you are either very privileged and in a bubble or not actually from the US.
[23:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Civil Rights Group Calls for Creation of a National ID Card - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:14] <exec> 08└─Damn you're stupid. Impressive levels you've reached, really!
[23:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:28] <exec> 08└─Such as "can anyone replicate this?" The people who write these university press releases and the "journalists" who report on them are worse for science than any church or flat earth society could ever be.
[23:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Men React to Repeated Painful Experiences Differently Than Women Do - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:30] <exec> 08└─Nothing painful about that... The real pain is staying with windows with microsoft slurping all your personal data and just surfing the internet is all that is needed to get a virus.
[23:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:56] <exec> 08└─Since you can export your data [google.com], are there other online services that you could import it into? Seems like it would be a business opportunity to give these angst-ridden individuals a social media site to at least temporarily land on for their post-breakup rebound.
[23:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Death of Google+ Causing Angst - 2930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:58] <exec> 08└─And there is the connection. It's in the Internet wire we all have in houses. But it is not used as intended. The problem started by going from semi-decentralized network based partially on mutual knowledge (who is who / who can do what) to platform-dependent centralization when nobody knows nobody,...
[23:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Teen Bedridden for Life after Selling Kidney for an iPhone - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:39] <exec> 08└─Or have it done on the NHS.
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