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[12:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:08] <exec> 08└─Every insane person already had an account, the sane will not create new accounts because they are sane, and all new registrations prior to this point were bots.
[12:29:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Touché) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:10] <exec> 08└─PS: Insane here refers strictly to using social media in the first place.
[12:29:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:12] <exec> 08└─> and all new registrations prior to this point were bots SO FUCKING WHAT
[12:29:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:14] <exec> 08└─Sounds like MDC's FB friends?
[12:29:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 90 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:31] <exec> 08└─Do we really want to be talking about other countries being run like a criminal syndicate?
[12:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:33] <exec> 08└─What::About::Ism
[12:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:35] <exec> 08└─Knee::Jerk::Reaction
[12:29:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:37] <exec> 08└─Orange::Man::Bad
[12:29:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:39] <exec> 08└─Colons::colons::colons
[12:29:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:42] <exec> 08└─Yes. Note that what "other" countries are is not the same for everyone here. For example, for me the USA belong to that category. I suspect for you it doesn't.
[12:29:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:44] <exec> 08└─Intestines::intestines::intestines
[12:29:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:46] <exec> 08└─back::to::work
[12:29:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 417 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:48] <exec> 08└─so, which criminal syndicates were used to baseline internet activity? Do they get dumps of convicted criminal's gang's internet histories and map usage to time? Were they comparing one particular identified group, or are they drawing conclusions based on assumptions based on guesses? Or, are the re...
[12:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:51] <exec> 08└─If you use the internet for anything else than porn and games you're a dirty criminal. At least this is the impression I'm left with having read the fine summary.
[12:29:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:53] <exec> 08└─so, which criminal syndicates were used to baseline internet activity? ... Were they comparing one particular identified group, or are they drawing conclusions based on assumptions based on guesses?
[12:29:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:55] <exec> 08└─How does one access to the internet without a computer? Without an ISP? Electricity? What?
[12:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06"Schrödinger's Bacterium" Could Be a Quantum Biology Milestone - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:04] <exec> 08└─The experiment was successful; up to six bacteria did appear to couple in this manner.
[12:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Schrödinger's Bacterium" Could Be a Quantum Biology Milestone - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:07] <exec> 08└─I agree, the article doesn't present the science well at all. What is most obviously missing is how the evidence makes any other interpretation unlikely - if there were not quantum entanglement going on, how would the results of the experiment be different. That is, after all, what makes scientific...
[12:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Schrödinger's Bacterium" Could Be a Quantum Biology Milestone - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:09] <exec> 08└─What is most obviously missing is how the evidence makes any other interpretation unlikely
[12:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:18] <exec> 08└─Now the big ISPs can't claim extra infrastructure costs for installing new fiber, and, and, and, net neutrality will be a moot point because everything will be so cheap. And then I woke up.
[12:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:20] <exec> 08└─Aussies as the RMIT guys may be... but, in a typical blind-sighted way, our politicians decided NBN will be using fixed wireless at 512kbaud, because that should be enough for everybody in non-metropolitan areas [zdnet.com]
[12:30:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:23] <exec> 08└─If these things work and get adopted, the reality will be somewhere between "no change" and the utopian scenario. Increasing the TB/s that can be sent over fiber is only one piece of the puzzle. Other equipment will have to be upgraded. Cheaper bandwidth is a good thing. Video is the top use of band...
[12:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:31] <exec> 08└─This is just further proof that professional programmers are actually dumbasses who don't employ even the most basic abstractions.
[12:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:33] <exec> 08└─Are you seriously trying to put the latest and greatest video card into a 32 bit computer? Come on dude - there is "backward compatibility", but FFS, you simply cannot make use of a GTX 1080 in a TRS-80. As for 32 bit operating systems on 64 bit capable systems - you've already foregone using the CP...
[12:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:35] <exec> 08└─AMD is saying they are dropping support for a product that has hitherto been supported on 32-bit machines.
[12:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:37] <exec> 08└─I have a Radeon HD 5450 (the lowest and cheapest of the 5000 series) in a 64bit computer. AMD announced some 5 years ago that they would not be updating the drivers for the 5000 series any more, and so there was no point downloading and updating to their latest drivers. But, as is typical, they didn...
[12:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:40] <exec> 08└─That's the problem with proprietary software; it ain't your property.
[12:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:42] <exec> 08└─AMD is saying they are dropping support for a product that has hitherto been supported on 32-bit machines.
[12:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:44] <exec> 08└─Latest x86 is 390.87 legacy (2018.8.27) while the latest x86_64 is 410.57 stable (2018.10.25): https://www.nvidia.com [nvidia.com] Pretty sure all the 32bit proprietary games and CAD software require the 32bit drivers so they won't be supported on new nVidia graphics cards now. That...
[12:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:46] <exec> 08└─Just a reminder that 32-bit Windows 10 is still out there. When people were tricked in to upgrading from Windows 7 to 10 they automatically got the same bit-nes as they were already running, and Windows 7-32 bit was the most common for several years after it came out. Granted, most people who are ru...
[12:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:48] <exec> 08└─The reason that you can't put it in a trash 80 is that the bus it uses isn't supported by the trash 80. However, the bus it uses is supported by some 32-bit processors, so there's no similarity between these two situations. Don't get me wrong, as someone who's been 64-bit since the 90s (DEC Alpha fa...
[12:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:51] <exec> 08└─Why so far fetched? Always remember: you can tune a file system, but you cannot tune a fish.
[12:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:53] <exec> 08└─Unless written direectly in ASSEM and code per CPU model, there is NO, repeat NO, reason to need one over the other,, they code is equal. This is purely a money grab. DESTORY the old so they buy a new. ANYONE who is believes other wise is foul who deserve the cash being SUCKED from their pockets. WR...
[12:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:03] <exec> 08└─Nobody's Cellphone Is Really That Secure
[12:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:05] <exec> 08└─Heh... Seriously, we all knew this right?
[12:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:07] <exec> 08└─" Don't think the attacker has to put his eavesdropping antenna on the White House lawn; the Russian Embassy is close enough. "
[12:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:10] <exec> 08└─Regardless of who is in the White House, and what device is in their pocket, it's pretty safe to assume that every single embassy in D.C., especially the Russians and the Chinese, is trying to listen. Picking "the Chinese" would be more fashionable, but the Russians have been in the DC listening bus...
[12:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:12] <exec> 08└─I can see the Soviet embassy from my office. Big white building on the top of one of the highest hills in DC. Great for listening. Our embassy in Moscow is situated in the crappiest location possible.
[12:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:14] <exec> 08└─My previous cell phone is amazingly secure. It's been at the bottom of a lake for a decade or so because it rang at me one time too many while I was fishing.
[12:31:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:16] <exec> 08└─on my cellphone. We've had 10-20 years to figure out security on PCs, and what, less than 10 for cellphones? Not to mention cellphones seem to like bleeding edge tech (NFC anyone). I'll let you find the security holes, maybe in 5-10 years I'll trust my cell phone enough to access my bank account on...
[12:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:19] <exec> 08└─"I can see the Soviet embassy from my office." Really? Interesting. So what year is it in your office?
[12:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:21] <exec> 08└─The NSA seems to prefer bulk eavesdropping on the planet's major communications links and then picking out individuals of interest.
[12:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:23] <exec> 08└─s/individual of interest/political office holder/ The NSA is probably the single most dangerous of America's enemies.
[12:31:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:25] <exec> 08└─The only truly secure storage is one where not even you can access the information.
[12:31:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:27] <exec> 08└─Not having service means you're not allowed to access the network, it doesn't somehow magically stop Powers That Be spying on you using your device. Just like removing a SIM card renders the device somewhat useless ... for you, not them. Phones are devil's tools.
[12:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:30] <exec> 08└─Naw, there's zero change of our Watchers acting in a bad way. Can't happen in the USA. Or is there? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[12:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:32] <exec> 08└─I can see the Soviet embassy from my office.
[12:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:34] <exec> 08└─The only truly secure storage is one where not even you can access the information.
[12:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:36] <exec> 08└─S'true. It's almost certain no tasks will be accomplished when my FISH scheduler is engaged.
[12:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:39] <exec> 08└─Political office holder, or outside political organizer, or business leader, or the new beau of someone working for the NSA, or local law enforcement investigating something the TLAs don't want to be made public, or member of a religion the TLAs don't like, or ... There's a lot of things you can do...
[12:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:49] <exec> 08└─My proposal: solve the issue of "personal data privacy and the cessation of online tracking" as one of the social problem. You reckon it will be accepted by Google?
[12:31:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:51] <exec> 08└─Because the end justifying the means has never caused any problems. Especially when you talk about the good of the people, of the nation, of the international community.
[12:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:53] <exec> 08└─"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil AI is that good AI does nothing (or doesn't exist)." "The only thing that stops a guy with a bad AI is a guy with a good AI." I'll go with it. I for one welcome our new benevolent artificial intelligences.
[12:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:56] <exec> 08└─I for one welcome our new benevolent artificial intelligences.
[12:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:31:58] <exec> 08└─I have a very specific proposal in this space. Imagine an AI that would spend time online instead of me - clicking likes and reading news and adds - just pretending to be me but with different configurable properties - say hard working professional; liberal NY style socialite. I even have a rather c...
[12:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:00] <exec> 08└─"personal data privacy and the cessation of online tracking"
[12:32:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:02] <exec> 08└─Google have pretty much said, "Friendship with America ended, now China is my new best friend and fuck human rights and all that" and this little benevolent streak from them is a big "fuck you" to the few employees and others who don't yet hate them. It's like a rich fat dude making a starving homel...
[12:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:05] <exec> 08└─What if the AI is basically Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher in making policies? What if it was Chairman Mao? Are you going to disagree with the AI that you helped create? If so, what is the point of all that effort just to disagree with policies made by AI when you can simply disagree with any cu...
[12:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:07] <exec> 08└─Define "Good"
[12:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:09] <exec> 08└─Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If their Ai starts acting like a Conservative, will they pull the plug or start fuckign with the algorithm? (obviously actual self-reflection if that happens is out of the question).
[12:32:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:11] <exec> 08└─If their Ai starts acting like a Conservative, will they pull the plug or start fuckign with the algorithm?
[12:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Big Bees Fly Better in Hotter Temps Than Smaller Ones Do - 1679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:20] <exec> 08└─It was dark. It was almost too dark to see, but if one strained their eyes, they could still manage. If one looked down the long portion of this relatively narrow space, they could see old, tall brick walls to both their left and their right. It was a city alleyway. A man stood in the center. Someth...
[12:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Big Bees Fly Better in Hotter Temps Than Smaller Ones Do - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:23] <exec> 08└─*holding a lighter with a jerrican in reach* Gallons petrol per square foot kitchen please.
[12:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Big Bees Fly Better in Hotter Temps Than Smaller Ones Do - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:25] <exec> 08└─Larger wings work better at higher density altitude.
[12:32:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Big Bees Fly Better in Hotter Temps Than Smaller Ones Do - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:27] <exec> 08└─A bee bit my bottom ... now my bottom's big - Homer Simpson
[12:32:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:36] <exec> 08└─I got taken in by this stupid guerrilla ad campaign, and I hate it. I never bought the things (no one close to me is color blind), but I genuinely believed they worked based on stupid-ass youtube videos. As much as I've made this about myself and being a fuckin dupe: fuck everyone making medical cla...
[12:32:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:38] <exec> 08└─It has taken this long?
[12:32:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 1694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:41] <exec> 08└─I never saw claims it creates color vision in colorblind people. But what it does do is to enhance separation, i.e. stimulation distance of colors. I've got a pair, they work. Naturally I can't tell certain shades of dark green, dark brown and dark red apart, which sucks because I design websites. B...
[12:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:43] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that rings a bell: https://metro.co.uk [metro.co.uk] https://www.reddit.com [reddit.com]
[12:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:45] <exec> 08└─What I am describing are emissive lights instead of reflective, I wonder what would happen if they repeated the experience with emissive lights instead of reflected light.
[12:32:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:47] <exec> 08└─That's the thing. None of those look any different.
[12:32:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:50] <exec> 08└─I was fooled too. I couldn't fathom how it could possibly work but I suspended my disbelief because it seemed like such an easy lie to disprove. Oh well live and learn.
[12:32:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:52] <exec> 08└─Scratch another victory for the social media juggernaut...
[12:32:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 1286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:54] <exec> 08└─You wondered about Redskins the same way I did. I saw the team logo, the red Indian, and thought that was the color of their skins. Pretty cool too. That, and in my upbringing I saw a lot of Looney Toons, and they depicted some Native Americans as deeply brown bordering on red too. No big deal to me...
[12:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 944 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:56] <exec> 08└─Various glasses have been around for just about forever. Have you ever tried "shooting glasses"? They usually look yellow, or yellowish. They claim to make targets easier to see, blah blah blah. And, they DO have an effect on your vision. Yes, things really do look different through the shooting gla...
[12:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03xhedit [6669] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:32:58] <exec> 08└─Uh, tanned native americans actually do have red skin undertones. My father is 1/4 native and when he worked in the sun all summer you could absolutely see it.
[12:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03xhedit [6669] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:01] <exec> 08└─I was at a hamfest this summer and some old professors were raving about these enchroma glasses and had a few pairs and were letting people try them. I'm not colorblind, but no other glasses have ever made colors pop the way these glasses did, and I've used all sorts of crazy sunglasses with differe...
[12:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:03] <exec> 08└─I think there is one of these every few years. I remember at least 4 times in the last couple of decades my parents have asked me if I'd seen whatever new incarnation of the same tech was doing the rounds.
[12:33:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:05] <exec> 08└─I haven't seen the youtube videos, but saw a thing on the Innovation Nation TV show about them. I remember thinking that if they'd had these things when I was born, my dad would have been an indoor wireman rather than a lineman, because he was color blind (that term annoyed him; he could see color b...
[12:33:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:07] <exec> 08└─My color blind dad bought a car when I was a baby. My mom was horrified when he brought it home because it was a hideous color. Dad thought it was gray.
[12:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:19] <exec> 08└─This article was better left unpublished. We should not be discussing these things. Takyon should be ashamed! Sulla social credit score +10 Takyon social credit rating -100
[12:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:21] <exec> 08└─Europe and the US/Canada has environmental protections. Those protections cost money. Manufacturing was off-shored to various places in Africa, India, China, and the rest of Asia. No protections, meaning, the manufacturers can do whatever the hell they want.
[12:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:23] <exec> 08└─Every time I read / hear someone raging against the USA's political machine and the USA's corporations that are killing the planet, I think about articles like this. Yes, the USA needs to take care of the environment and not restrict their citizens' fundamental rights. That doesn't mean the USA is t...
[12:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:25] <exec> 08└─Man, who'd have guessed lax environmental protections and totalitarian social controls go together?
[12:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:28] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much is self-hatred vs foreign influence.
[12:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:30] <exec> 08└─A wave of research studies that began in the 1990s is focusing on the possible connection between the Nazi movement and today's green movement. In 1935, two years after the Nazis rose to power, the German government passed a Reich law for the protection of the natural environment, a law whose scope...
[12:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:32] <exec> 08└─The US is not the worst offender in some categories, in other ones it is the worst. People who live in the US and pay taxes in the US may be more concerned about bad things that are being perpetrated in or by the US. Addressing one's own faults is more likely to accomplish something than is ignoring...
[12:33:33] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 631 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:34] <exec> 08└─Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen. If, that is, that's what the voters really chose. There are a lot of questions about possible Russian interference that are still largely uninvestigated. It's weird how all sorts of rules t...
[12:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:37] <exec> 08└─At some point foreign influence is self-propagating. Which makes things like "Fake News" (factually incorrect statements and/or propaganda from other countries targeting US citizens to promote their ideologies) on Facebook and the like very detrimental to our society. Netflix has to include a certai...
[12:33:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 798 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:39] <exec> 08└─Ahhhh, so now the Climate Change supporters are Nazi's? Man, some of you deniers are just plain fucking nuts. First, it's the science is corrupt (which is partially true), now it's that the people behind it are pushing a fucking Nazi agenda from the early 1930's? I can believe that some of it is rel...
[12:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:41] <exec> 08└─While pointing fingers won't necessarily help. Totally ignoring what other countries are doing won't help either. Raging against our own corporate entities won't help, if we're already doing quite a good job when compared to the rest of the world. It won't matter a whole lot globally, if the United...
[12:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:43] <exec> 08└─Working out pretty good so far. Strong economy means more people can afford to buy their preference, this benefits clean energy Reduction of troop levels and military action in Syria, turning what President Obama said was a generational conflict into almost nothing Things are going significantly bet...
[12:33:44] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1203 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:46] <exec> 08└─Yep. That's why we should've raised up and revolted in this country back in the mid 70's. Outlawed outsourcing by simple trade tariffs. Not designed to punish, but to remove any and all economic advantage of outsourcing production. It will cost local business the *exact* same costs for outsourced pr...
[12:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:48] <exec> 08└─All the above post was intended to do was show that reducing environmental policies has nothing to do with a government being fascist, as fascists governments can also be pro-environment. I realized that the most likely response I would get was someone calling me a Nazi, so I used an Israeli link as...
[12:33:49] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Freeman [732] 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 729 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:50] <exec> 08└─What the Democrats failed to realize, is how toxic Hillary Clinton has become politically. Yes, she was / is a powerful female politician. I have no doubt, she could do the job, I just don't trust her to do the job. Even less so than Trump. Which is saying a whole lot in and of itself. Sure, there a...
[12:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:52] <exec> 08└─Outlawed outsourcing by simple trade tariffs.
[12:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:54] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I realize this as it becomes a fad. I've been on the internet since it was a government only thing - before it was called the internet, and also with BBSes and have noticed very sharp shifts in public opinion out of seemingly nowhere and have long wondered about this. Could be an eternal Septe...
[12:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: -1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:57] <exec> 08└─damn you are one dumb motherfucker
[12:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:59] <exec> 08└─Then you need to make simple tariffs, at the top level (Federal), and if necessary, we need an Article 5 convention to put those tariffs into a Constitutional Amendment. The tariff really is simple. You don't leave it static. It is whatever it *needs* to be to eliminate the monetary benefit of choos...
[12:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:01] <exec> 08└─a little rebellion now and then is a good thing
[12:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: -1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:03] <exec> 08└─who the fuck are you idiot? I haven't seen you before. do you know what comparative advantage is? you know, from highschool econ. you want americans doing what cheap unskilled chinese labor does? yes, steel factory workers are unskilled labor. do you know how pollution works? it doesn't go from chin...
[12:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:05] <exec> 08└─> Then you need to make simple tariffs You don't understand the power of lobbying, do you? Trump's tariffs have been "adjusted" all over the map already by powerful lobbies that want to protect their current "good thing".
[12:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:08] <exec> 08└─Do we have any epidemiologists in the audience? ... eastern China is the source of at least half of the 40,000 tonnes of carbon tetrachloride emissions currently entering the atmosphere each year.
[12:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:10] <exec> 08└─...also ensuring our destruction
[12:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:12] <exec> 08└─Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen
[12:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:14] <exec> 08└─Carbon tet is a known carcinogen and, I believe a pretty powerful one.
[12:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:17] <exec> 08└─You're so dumb it makes me sad. You should study less highschool econ and more science. Do you realize that there is only 1 atmosphere on this planet, the one and same whether you're in China or US of fucking A. Have you ever heard about climate change buddy? Do you get TV in your cave? Makes me won...
[12:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:19] <exec> 08└─Do you know the Anna Karenina principle?
[12:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:21] <exec> 08└─But you're not doing a good job! USA is #2 largest greenhouse gas emitter of the 200 or so countries... And if you look at the emissions per capita USA is doing MUCH worse than e.g. China. Stats for example here. [wikipedia.org] China also produces twice the amount and share of total renewable elect...
[12:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:23] <exec> 08└─and you must destroy the village country to save it
[12:34:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:25] <exec> 08└─Translation: I don't understand the power of corruption. Bull-fucking-shit, I don't. I'm saying what we need to do to help the Middle Class. However, the only advocates for the Middle Class, or Lobbyists, ARE OUR FUCKING SENATORS IN THE FIRST PLACE. So the people who should be representing the inter...
[12:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:28] <exec> 08└─Ah. This is also proof that vegetarians are Literal Hitler! I'm certain no fallacies have been committed in reaching these conclusions! But wait... I sense a problem! Hitler persecuted the homosexuals and the Communist Party, which was working with the Communist International (a.k.a. Third Internati...
[12:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:30] <exec> 08└─Wolf-PAC [wolf-pac.com]?
[12:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:32] <exec> 08└─You forget the best: no oreo in the White House.
[12:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:34] <exec> 08└─Steel... which reminds me that our common little evil Russia does not dump cheap steel on the US market (which it could easily do) but instead invests and rebuilds American steel industry. Here is an example https://nlmk.com [nlmk.com] Another big Russian c...
[12:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:36] <exec> 08└─Gotta be some reason he's still posting even though he posts at -1. Though can't we eliminate Russian troll since wouldn't a Russian troll move to another account as soon as their account started posting at 0, not keep going after it was posting at -1? I guess that leaves dumbass on the table as a p...
[12:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:39] <exec> 08└─Strong economy
[12:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:41] <exec> 08└─Yes, very interesting, thanks. I've always been leery of bleach-containing cleaners, do my best to avoid them but the SO is a big fan of sparkling white sinks and toilets. Going forward I'm going to only open such containers outdoors or in well ventilated spaces... and suggest that she do the same.
[12:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:43] <exec> 08└─Fascism - n. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
[12:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:45] <exec> 08└─I was, for suggesting the "RAYCISS" fact that China is a greater environmental issue than plastic straws, and that international manufacturing should be the nearly focus of any environmentalists who consider themselves considered for the entire globe's welfare, rather than simply their immediate env...
[12:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: -1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:47] <exec> 08└─my parents are originally from moscow, and I'm 90% fluent in Russian, so I guess you're right tupoy mudak. "-1"? you have your internet content censored by random people on the internet? literally everyone I know reads at -1, starting w/.in the late 90s. you're on the wrong site buddy. reddit is wha...
[12:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:50] <exec> 08└─Neat. I'm all for an Article V Convention. Since it truly is bipartisan, most people here should be too. At 75%, that's a high threshold ensuring bipartisan amendments. Thanks for sharing.
[12:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 2309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:52] <exec> 08└─I took "science" and not econ, both in school and in college, so let me clear some things up. 90% of pollution produced in China would not in any way reach the US - it is simply too far. Pollution is heavy, it does not go high up in a jetstream and traverse vast oceans. Things that break down...
[12:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:54] <exec> 08└─Anna Karenina principle
[12:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:56] <exec> 08└─simple tariffs
[12:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:58] <exec> 08└─we outlaw outsourcing entirely. No tariffs required, because they are no imports.
[12:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:01] <exec> 08└─*sort* lol An amusing dumbass at least. But that's cool you're almost fluent in Russian. One thing I regret in life was not learning Dutch from my great-grandma. Great-great-grandma came over to America on the boat. Great-grandma was fluent of course. Grandma was 90% fluent. Mom knew a few words. Me...
[12:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:03] <exec> 08└─> You're complaining that someone in a different state farts and it smells in your house. No, we don't really have "1 atmosphere" when it comes to pollution. We have many localized bodies of air, where the heavy pollution particles are generated and settle in the immediate area. It's why you don't w...
[12:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:05] <exec> 08└─What??!! You're telling me that we're paying for Trump to have special all-white Oreos made for him? Quick call the congressional budget office.
[12:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:07] <exec> 08└─Me to. Where is the "Prophetic" mod?
[12:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:10] <exec> 08└─I'd agree with Eternal September, which I count as the transition from the Second Age to the Third Age. Opinions would shift as democratization increases during the early Third age, but as corporations begin to exert influence in the late Third Age, opinions shift again. We're starting to see the tr...
[12:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:12] <exec> 08└─The Christian Science Monitor. Seriously - why are you on this site? This is literally not the forum for you. This is a tiny community. If you are thinking to agitate or piss off people, all you are going to do here is have a small handfull of people laugh at you. Very small. Would your idiot trolli...
[12:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fakefuck39 [6620] (Score: -1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:14] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what your first line means - I'm guessing a grammar error. I am "almost" fluent in French too, having lived there for 4 years. I am far from fluent in Korean, Ukrainian, and Spanish. I understand Polish and Romanian but don't speak them. My wife speaks 4. I have also been to ~80 count...
[12:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:16] <exec> 08└─Do... do you truly not understand, generally, how CFCs interact with the atmosphere and environment?
[12:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:18] <exec> 08└─I used an Israeli link as support because then calling me a Nazi for trusting Israelis would be pointless.
[12:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:20] <exec> 08└─No, you make trade agreements that force other countries to protect the environment. Seems a lot simpler than your "simple tariff". What "simple tariff" does is make everyone poorer for no reason whatsoever. Anyway, it's quite idiotic for America to push tariffs after becoming the defacto world rese...
[12:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:23] <exec> 08└─Holy fuck man. Your seem to have a beautiful summary of Fox News propaganda. Goebbels would be proud.
[12:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:25] <exec> 08└─The Chinese don't care about their own people's present-day - why should they care about another country's future?
[12:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:27] <exec> 08└─You can get all your salami, cheese and wine from the EU where we have very good environmental protection laws.
[12:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:29] <exec> 08└─Greenhouse gas? Do you mean the most important greenhouse gas, water? Because I think you'll find that the Amazon river is the largest emission of water by a single country. Of course, that is not in vapor form and even if it was it would be dwarfed by the water vapor coming off the oceans.
[12:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Megahard [4782] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:40] <exec> 08└─https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/about/contact-slac/ [stanford.edu]
[12:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Insightful) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:41] <exec> 08└─I suspect the only "profitable" way to run such a "startup" would be to get some government to force taxpayers to fund it. The only thing here that is man-made is the hysteria.
[12:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:43] <exec> 08└─After they collect the carbon, they can sell it as fuel. The economics of this is a joke. First of all you have a Tragedy of the Commons. Cleaning up the commons is a thankless task. Who will be taxed or otherwise forced to fund this boondoggle? Second of all you have an energy problem. You're essen...
[12:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:46] <exec> 08└─I have a system for completely organic and sustainable solar-powered carbon sequestration, available at an extremely low cost of under $0.10 per unit. They can be installed in a wide variety of locations all around the globe. This system is already in use across vast swaths of the US, Canada, Europe...
[12:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:48] <exec> 08└─What a shortsighted view. It looks like initial funding is done by private investors. If there are successes and they require additional funding to scale up, then that could and should be funded by taxing carbon emissions.
[12:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:50] <exec> 08└─Trees can die or catch fire and release that CO2 back into the air. I do wonder about large scale tree farms where the trees are harvested and then buried in a deep, sealed pit.
[12:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 1599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:52] <exec> 08└─Capturing carbon and selling it as fuel would be great...if you had some enormous energy supply to do it. Obviously putting fuel molecules "back together" would take more energy than was originally produced by burning them. The real problem is not thermodynamics but efficiency. Unless a very high ef...
[12:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:55] <exec> 08└─Just what I was thinking. Growing plants is the easy part. Happens naturally all the time. The problem is stopping the vegetation from returning all that carbon to the air when it burns or rots. As to dumping dead vegetation into the ground (perhaps coal mines would be appropriate?) the energy and e...
[12:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:57] <exec> 08└─"Troll"? Repost! I suspect the only "profitable" way to run such a "startup" would be to get some government to force taxpayers to fund it. The only thing here that is man-made is the hysteria.
[12:35:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:59] <exec> 08└─You know how you figure out what society needs or wants, what the requisite resources should cost, who should be paying for it all, and how complex flows of resources should be sustained in the long run (even without people realizing that they're working together)? Capitalism. The problem here is a...
[12:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:01] <exec> 08└─That is the idea. Create a "perceived" problem and then "solve" it, getting paid both times. There was a cruise ship, the Costa Concordia, which sank and the cost of recovery kept increasing. It became more than the cost to build the ship. You have to congratulate them at their genius. Getting paid...
[12:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:04] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately when government gets involved that $0.10 tree is going to several thousand per tree, or at least this is the case for my local municipality. 1. You need to find a proposed location for the tree 2. You need to have a locator go out and make sure there are no ground wires or pipes that a...
[12:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:06] <exec> 08└─You missed a couple steps, Profit, being the most important. 1. Grow Trees 2. Make stuff out of trees 3. Sell wood Products 3a. Profit! 4. Collect old used goods and charge the customer for disposal 4a. Profit! 5. Bury wood deep underground Semi serious question: Do landfills generate Carbon Credits...
[12:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:08] <exec> 08└─If what you say accurately reflects the norm, then it's probably a rare case where deregulation actually makes a lot of sense. There should still be environmental protections if it's an existing natural habitat, but on brownfield any trees are better than no trees with the exception of some of the m...
[12:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:10] <exec> 08└─Yeah, there seems to be a real edge to believing our entire first world is just straight banking on cost-efficient commercial fusion to bail us out and planning everything like its a certainty.
[12:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:12] <exec> 08└─"Comment Below Threshold"? I didn't write that!... Repost! I suspect the only "profitable" way to run such a "startup" would be to get some government to force taxpayers to fund it. The only thing here that is man-made is the hysteria.
[12:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:15] <exec> 08└─I actually don't think this is a case where deregulation helps, and this is not the process for everyone who might want to install a tree, just if the muni tries to do it. Sorry for lack of clarity.
[12:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:17] <exec> 08└─You forgot 5a,b,c; bribe legislators and get paid for burying wood too.
[12:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:19] <exec> 08└─The carbon problem is only a "perceived problem" which does not exist in reality. Carbon dioxide is taken up by plants and without CO2, there would be no plants and we would all die as a result.
[12:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:21] <exec> 08└─Here's two solutions you haven't considered: Launch the trees into space. Seriously, use a rocket and put the carbon in orbit. What can go wrong? Give somebody like Musk the responsibility to put all the trees into space. Hand wave away all the CO2 the rocket produces because the carbon the trees se...
[12:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:23] <exec> 08└─Apology accepted :)
[12:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:26] <exec> 08└─Yes, yes, and this is why we need to kill all men and move forward with that angelic contract system thingie. I thought we'd covered all this territory before.
[12:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Michael [7157] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:28] <exec> 08└─Burning off the hydrogen-rich volatiles to leave charcoal would give you a bury-able substance which doesn't decay for centuries. It's also a phenomenal soil amendment for holding water and nutrients, which is likely to give extra carbon capture by increasing biomass in/on soil. Even in a relatively...
[12:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:30] <exec> 08└─The 'Murrican exit from climate change treaties (teaties? hah!) also has something to do with solving the problem. A perceived problem is created by 'Murrican industries carbon-dioxiding the air and another sister company begins the cleanup process. Both get paid. Create the problem. Solve the said...
[12:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:32] <exec> 08└─Some territory, yes. All this territory? Naaah.
[12:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:35] <exec> 08└─Obviously putting fuel molecules "back together" would take more energy than was originally produced by burning them
[12:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:37] <exec> 08└─Well, what else is left to explore? Dazzle me with your superior intellect!
[12:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:39] <exec> 08└─I'm still waiting on these: https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com] https://spectrum.ieee.org [ieee.org]
[12:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:41] <exec> 08└─Those happened in 2014. If no progress was visible by today, either: - they were successful beyond their dreams (and the tech is used by NSA to crack encryption at Terahertz clock speed) or - there's nothing there, the technology failed to deliver the promises
[12:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:55] <exec> 08└─People get lost in their abstract discussions, building world views that don't actually apply to reality. Where are the concrete examples of sustained, systemic problems? I'd wager they don't exist.
[12:36:56] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 441 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:56] <exec> 08└─Okay, here's an article [lwn.net] documenting 9 concrete examples of specific behavior in open source communities that drove some people away and others to raise this concern and push for this change. Now, I've been around the internet enough to understand that there's a canned response to answering...
[12:36:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 956 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:59] <exec> 08└─And let's not forget when an individual in a group not well-represented by diversity standards (transgendered people) suffered temporary insanity [freworld.info], in the opinion of this writer, to the detriment of both GNU and her specific project, libreboot, eventually resulting in some leadership...
[12:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:01] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but that's not what I had in mind. Software (and FOSS in particular) is the domain of people who don't want to meet face-to-face, especially in large numbers at a special-purpose event. Hell, you can say something stronger: They WANT not to meet in meatspace. No wonder there's a huge fucking...
[12:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:03] <exec> 08└─I disagree with making "diversity" a goal.
[12:37:04] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Snospar [5366] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 42 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:05] <exec> 08└─force everyone to voluntarily think alike.
[12:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 4, Flamebait) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:08] <exec> 08└─As a hard nosed computer nerd, fuck you, and your pretense.
[12:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:10] <exec> 08└─You ought to introspect about why my comments hurt you so badly.
[12:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:12] <exec> 08└─That's generally what these kind communications are going for from the sounds of it. You can essentially sum them up to "Think before you speak like an asshole."
[12:37:13] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:14] <exec> 08└─You left out the corporate PR people, and the hired booth babes. The real problem is taking a microscopic fraction of the community exclusively being weirdos, outliers, and drones, mix, observe the mixture is all messed up, and make inaccurately conclusions about the entire community. A sports analo...
[12:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:16] <exec> 08└─Doesn't sound like respect to me. But everybody's different. Or maybe not anymore. Glad I'm no longer involved.
[12:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:19] <exec> 08└─The difference between kind communication guidelines and a code of conduct
[12:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:21] <exec> 08└─From your link: this document is now renamed and replaced by a Code of Conduct [sqlite.org]
[12:37:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 138 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:23] <exec> 08└─Because you're a pretentious moron who thinks they can speak for me, because you never think about things at all? Yeah, I think that's it.
[12:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:25] <exec> 08└─Not "they".
[12:37:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:27] <exec> 08└─documenting 9 concrete examples of specific behavior in open source communities
[12:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:30] <exec> 08└─This tranny is opposed to CoCs and identity politics.... Oh well. Doesn't matter.
[12:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:32] <exec> 08└─You're being used by the people with whom you disagree. Unfortunately, this requires you to speak out explicitly against them.
[12:37:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah they really caved on that. The Mozilla Guidelines document is interesting because its basically a "declaration of independence" or "sovereignty declaration" WRT corporate speak and corporate trademarks. Its not really a story about how they like to talk, but mostly a story about how they (for s...
[12:37:35] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's a real stretch to guess that one right there. Who ever could've guessed.
[12:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:39] <exec> 08└─This objection feels a bit pedantic, but I guess it deserves addressing. Yes, of course OS culture is not a monolith. There have long been subgroups and individuals that don't have these problems, and not every concern for broad systemic problems represent universal systemic problems.
[12:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:41] <exec> 08└─Well, I mean, it is exactly what you Nazi shits say when you're worried someone with qualms about not being a piece of shit might see, right? This whole "find a private discord, plan a genocide, come up with carefully whitewashed white power slogans for the center right to mindlessly defend" thing i...
[12:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:43] <exec> 08└─The only special forms are the feminine forms; everything else in English is gender-neutral, and is only "masculine" in the sense that it is "not feminine".
[12:37:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:45] <exec> 08└─force everyone to voluntarily think alike.
[12:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:48] <exec> 08└─You seem to be trying really hard to incite others to feel and act like you. Sorry, Charlie, but we're not taking the bait. If you need to be told to treat others with common courtesy and respect, then you have already failed as a human being. No guidelines or code of conduct is ever going to reach...
[12:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:50] <exec> 08└─People like you always make me smile. I smile because I'm happy that there are so few of you and that I am not one of you. There are so many choices in life that are much harder than "should I be an asshole?" - yet you stumble on the easy stuff. Best of luck in life because you're going to need it.
[12:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 854 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:52] <exec> 08└─Yes, I'm very much aware of that. I have spoken out explicitly against them. It changes nothing. The "alt-right" right-wing authoritarian tribe continues to press for laws and policies that harm trans folks and continues to spout off their version of gender theory that is no less divorced from reali...
[12:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:54] <exec> 08└─I disagree with making "diversity" a goal.
[12:37:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:57] <exec> 08└─Forgot to mention. Diversity for the sake of diversity is not my goal in life.
[12:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:59] <exec> 08└─You can't have diversity and avoid conflict. Diversity means differences and differences are what create conflict.
[12:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:01] <exec> 08└─Damn, man, you nailed it. Modded up, and thank you.
[12:38:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:03] <exec> 08└─Can you elaborate? I can't understand a word you're saying. Maybe verbosity will clear things up.
[12:38:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:06] <exec> 08└─It's hilarious that you are unable to perceive the irony of your comment.
[12:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:08] <exec> 08└─The GNU Project encourages contributions from anyone who wishes to advance the development of the GNU system, regardless of gender, race, religion, cultural background, and any other demographic characteristics, as well as personal political views.
[12:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:10] <exec> 08└─A man has a protuberance, while a woman has a hole. That's diametrically opposing diversity, but it need to be disagreeable opposition; indeed, it may be a complementary relationship that is found to be quite agreeable. Division of LaborIt takes a whole village.Symbiosisetc. So, the real question is...
[12:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:12] <exec> 08└─Reading through your comments here makes me think that you're a bigot, a racist, and a sexist. I wouldn't want to associate with you on any project; you seem like a real loser.
[12:38:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:14] <exec> 08└─VLM has posted in the past about their covert nazi shit. That's one half The other half is paying attention to the shit the nazis gen up to direct the national converastion towards a stupider place "it's okay to be white" and shit like that was genuinely created for people like you to eat up and reg...
[12:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:17] <exec> 08└─Theoretically, no. In practice, yes. That aside, wrong and right are irrelevant to your point unless you believe it is okay to control what others are allowed to think. Personally, I think it's vastly more ethical to be wrong on any matter of ethics (excluding the following) than it is to try to con...
[12:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:19] <exec> 08└─i don't have a problem with anything except being told how i'm supposed to refer to people's gender (or anything else they make up). if you want to call yourself something different than what I might use, then that's fine. but don't try to tell tell me how to talk. maybe i'd just use an asterisk. ex...
[12:38:20] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 984 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:21] <exec> 08└─I recall hanging out in #debian and meeting some obnoxious people, both among the help seekers and the help givers. But, Microsoft had already said linux is cancer so I knew trolls were already out. Whenever you suspect trolls (be them there or not) you tend to become unfazed. On an online game I ha...
[12:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:23] <exec> 08└─And now we're back to absolutely brainless opinions stated as objective fact. Oh well. It was a nice diversion.
[12:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:26] <exec> 08└─Your statements imply that you believe taxation is an unacceptable way to organize society's resources.
[12:38:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:28] <exec> 08└─We are talking about the mozilla that ousted Eich...
[12:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:30] <exec> 08└─I wonder whether they are all evil white cishet males.
[12:38:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 965 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:32] <exec> 08└─Sorry this is a bit tangential, but on the subject of booth babes... My best friend is a mask maker, Commedia dell'Arte performer, playwright, juggler, professional clown, and actor with many bit parts to his credit (If you ever saw Hackers, he was the guy playing chess with the protagonist in Washi...
[12:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:34] <exec> 08└─Anyone who wants to force me to communicate only in a way they approve had better be ready to fight and ready to die.
[12:38:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:37] <exec> 08└─Do you even grammar bro?
[12:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:39] <exec> 08└─You may perceive it that way, and you could make an argument that they are being "mean" to you. However, having your misbehavior called out isn't really the time to try and reverse-asshole the situation. Own your shit asshole and stop trying to project it away.
[12:38:40] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1563 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:41] <exec> 08└─Well - maybe we can agree that "it's okay to be white" is stupid. I don't have to apologize, or ask anyone's approval for being mostly white. I am what I am, and anyone who doesn't like it can just fuck off. Do any soylentils feel compelled to apologize for being Black, Indian, Puerto Rican, Catholi...
[12:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:43] <exec> 08└─> Diversity means differences and differences are what create conflict. Resolving conflicts peacefully is how things move forward. Avoiding conflicts altogether often means a systems far too closed to potentially important input. But when race or gender or anything else pops into application coding,...
[12:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:46] <exec> 08└─Considering that you and the other respondent in this thread immediately resorted to profanity, name calling, and insults, I'd say that any bait has already been devoured.
[12:38:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:48] <exec> 08└─"I don't have to apologize, or ask anyone's approval for being mostly white." I haven't heard/seen a single person say you have to apologize. More stupid whinging about things that aren't happening. The real point wooshed over your head so fast you must have some sort of mental schizophrenia brewing...
[12:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:50] <exec> 08└─All of the problems disappear under this interpretation of English; everything makes sense, and requires very little change. Furthermore, this is the quintessential human experience: He and she did it in front of them. The pronouns are perfectly chosen for one human to convey to another human almost...
[12:38:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:52] <exec> 08└─Yes, her story is why Rush Limbaugh promulgates one of his Undeniable Truths: 24: Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society. Obviously your friend had no need for feminism, as an attractive woman equality with men in all things would be an obvious...
[12:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:54] <exec> 08└─Well if you're playing at their house then sorry bud you'd better follow the rules or GTFO. Fight and die? Lol, save your rhetoric for when there is an actual problem. Kinda poor taste to make death threats over ideology right now, hopefully you are capable of figuring out why that is.
[12:38:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:57] <exec> 08└─"Forgive me for being white. Please, take my spot instead."
[12:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:59] <exec> 08└─I didn't realize the passive-aggressive asshole is actually a group of people who are being mean to me.
[12:39:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:01] <exec> 08└─At the same time, and prior to, the European ghettos, the Jews didn't feel especially compelled to recreate Israel. Only when the pogroms became unbearable, only after the Nazis attempted to exterminate them, did the Jews find the will, along with the backing, to take back Israel.
[12:39:02] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 891 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:03] <exec> 08└─Since you're so smart - you should elaborate. Really, all you've done here is to make some empty rhetorical remarks. Is affirmative action racist, or is it not? Is all this diversity bullshit racist, or is it not? Every bit of it is intentionally designed to hold down a white person, while some OTHE...
[12:39:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, Balfour 1917. And, in fact, there were rabble rousers in Israel prior to WW2 stirring the pot. My statement stands - there was little push, and little support for Israel, until WW2. WW2 opened the floodgates.
[12:39:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:08] <exec> 08└─Problems with your thinking: 1. #2 has rarely, if ever, been shown to work in the real world. Once you accept the premise that diversity is a goal though, the failure to work always proceeds to #1 and destruction. 2., You also ASSume diversity, in the narrow SJW sense, is desirable. That of course r...
[12:39:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:10] <exec> 08└─I had never hear that perspective before,
[12:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:12] <exec> 08└─Keep your chair-normative comments to yourself, mkay?
[12:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:15] <exec> 08└─So you believe that the other side is equivalent to comic book villians, and you explain the fact that their rhetoric doesn't seem to rise to the level of comic book villians as being a ploy to attract more people to their true, secret, cause. This reminds me of a certain other poster who says that...
[12:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:17] <exec> 08└─Except that isn't how it works. The swarm YOU in YOUR house and demand your submission to this increasingly insane rules. Linus Torvalds is only the most visible example. Notice now many projects were happy and productive until a certain unspeakable horror went riding from project to project demandi...
[12:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:19] <exec> 08└─They did it in front of them. My my someone caught the short bus this morning.
[12:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:21] <exec> 08└─>It never ends because they are not interested in the outcome but in the process. I'm perpetually annoyed by that treadmill as well, but let me offer a different interpretation: The Vocal Minority uses Negro as an insult so often that the insulting snear effectively becomes part of the definition of...
[12:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:24] <exec> 08└─"it's okay to be white"
[12:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheFool [7105] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:26] <exec> 08└─Stallman seems to have a pretty kind heart, even though I disagree with him on many things. That's probably why it's all requests and encouragements, but no demands. A good person will do good even with a complete lack of laws forcing them to do good. He's asking the readers to be good people, not t...
[12:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:28] <exec> 08└─Did you really trade your phone call for a few minutes of internet access? Seems odd you'd waste it on posting here.
[12:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:30] <exec> 08└─Bigot!
[12:39:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:33] <exec> 08└─Are we weaklings now? Someone needs to call the "or else" out already. What can they do, call your job? Leaflet your neighbors like scientology?
[12:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:35] <exec> 08└─That is exactly what was happening. It would call your HR dept and you either obeyed or found yourself unemployable in the IT industry.
[12:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:37] <exec> 08└─Extend that perspective, just a little, if you will. I've commented before about women who WANT to be housewives.
[12:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:39] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry you're so scared of someone different from you.
[12:39:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:41] <exec> 08└─Yes. The rules are so increasingly insane. Oh, wait. [citation needed]
[12:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:44] <exec> 08└─Everyone needs to be told to treat others with common courtesy and respect. Ok ok, maybe 1% of the population is going to figure it out for themselves, or just naturally do so, but the rest need to be TOLD. Usually this is done by parents, but not everyone is so lucky to have decent parents or even...
[12:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:46] <exec> 08└─differences are what create conflict.
[12:39:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:48] <exec> 08└─Well since you're such a moron who can't bother to learn about the things you whinge whinge WHIIIINGE on about "For federal contractors and subcontractors, affirmative action must be taken by covered employers to recruit and advance qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered...
[12:39:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:50] <exec> 08└─Who cares what they say, just toss em' in the lake and see if they float.
[12:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:52] <exec> 08└─Challenging bad behavoir and/or calling it out is an unfortunate necessity. Passively letting it continue is the same as encouraging and approving it. If you don't stand up to those who wish to be abusive then they are emboldened. You may be OK with that but I am not.
[12:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:55] <exec> 08└─24: Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society.
[12:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:57] <exec> 08└─Diversity isn't the goal. It's a byproduct of not chasing away people who are different than you. But, if your goal is to mark your territory by chasing away anyone who is, or thinks, different than you then it's understandable that you would mistakenly assume that diversity is the goal (since it is...
[12:39:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:59] <exec> 08└─I don't think anyone has ever attempted a study, to find out how many women would stay at home, if they were able.
[12:40:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:01] <exec> 08└─I hear whistles carried on the wind. Lo, what darkness falls upon this land? A fearful wind, tearing at the fabric of homogeneity is whipping up terrors unknown. The storm brings tricks for all the kids who dare be different, white ropes and smoldering crosses. Jmorris cries for the first time in hi...
[12:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:04] <exec> 08└─I wonder how many men would choose the same if they were able.
[12:40:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:06] <exec> 08└─In fact, women have more agency than men. Women are in complete control of whether they reproduce. Women get to vote without being subject to the draft. The majority of tax monies are paid by men, while the majority of welfare benefits are received by women. The family courts have been shown to be b...
[12:40:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:08] <exec> 08└─I reject your notion that there is "systemic prejudice'.
[12:40:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:10] <exec> 08└─Wait, you think a conspiracy of nazis sets the slogans for moderate-right US citizens? So, what, like at a convention or something? They run some brainstorming groups and then vote?
[12:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:12] <exec> 08└─We should of course be "encouraging" people to think before they speak and treat those around them with some respect - even when they disagree with your own point of view.
[12:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:15] <exec> 08└─In fact, women have more agency than men. Women are in complete control of whether they reproduce. Women get to vote without being subject to the draft. The majority of tax monies are paid by men, while the majority of welfare benefits are received by women. The family courts have been shown to be b...
[12:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:17] <exec> 08└─Poor Eichmann got punched in the face... *sad puppies*
[12:40:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:19] <exec> 08└─Diversity should not be an only goal, that's for sure. More, diversity in the utopian way propagated by modern left-oriented politics just cannot be maintained. Imagine we have a project with 15 people. We already have 5-6 minority groups. But how about e.g. hair color? I know that it is no way rela...
[12:40:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 637 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:21] <exec> 08└─In fact, women have more agency than men. Women are in complete control of whether they reproduce. Women get to vote without being subject to the draft. The majority of tax monies are paid by men, while the majority of welfare benefits are received by women. The family courts have been shown to be b...
[12:40:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:23] <exec> 08└─Brainstorming? Brainstormfronting!
[12:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:26] <exec> 08└─How very wight of you!
[12:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:28] <exec> 08└─And how very wight of you, too!!
[12:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 1069 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:30] <exec> 08└─You describe something that indeed happens, but then the elite deciding what you can utter or not, would stop trying after the first step because it is clearly a lost cause (failing theoretically and practically, no less). Any name is ultimately conventional. Of course if you are offensive you carry...
[12:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:32] <exec> 08└─First zionist congress, 1897...
[12:40:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GNU Kind Communication Guidelines - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:35] <exec> 08└─Women are in complete control of whether they reproduce.
[12:40:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hubble Space Telescope Resumes Normal Science Operations - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:45] <exec> 08└─The helium filled ones, they never go down, helium keeps them floatin' Or better still, some SDDs.
[12:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hubble Space Telescope Resumes Normal Science Operations - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:47] <exec> 08└─? The problem was with a gyroscope that was was acting up. Not any information storage device. Also, the first Flash Drive was introduced about a decade after the Hubble Space Telescope was launched. Perhaps you were trying to post somewhere else?
[12:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hubble Space Telescope Resumes Normal Science Operations - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:49] <exec> 08└─Great that the space telescope is still usable and this problem with the gyros could be overcome. But for a fraction of the amount of money that's been blown on the ISS, to say nothing of military spending, we could have had a dozen space telescopes up. What's the plan for when the Hubble finally di...
[12:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hubble Space Telescope Resumes Normal Science Operations - 1394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:52] <exec> 08└─If BFR is flying, it should be feasible and relatively cheap to authorize a controlled landing of Hubble. But really, space telescopes are always most useful in space, even if Hubble eventually drops from best in class to #37 or something. We should figure out ways to send cheap robotic servicing mi...
[12:41:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:02] <exec> 08└─GCC VLAs are more useful but c99 ones are practically useless, so I can see why they didn't bother refactoring into those for clang. Basically you can only have 1 in a struct, it has to be at the end, and because of those rules if you have a vla in a struct, it then can no longer be included in anot...
[12:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:05] <exec> 08└─What is meant by VLA in context of the article? Presumably we are not talking about C++ std::vector here. Is it the thing where you can have variable number of arguments in the function call? Or something like size_t array_size = sizeof(int)*10; int* my_array = malloc(array_size); (Forgive my poor C...
[12:41:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03mth [2848] 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 266 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:07] <exec> 08└─It is literally arrays: int my_array[array_size]; where array_size is not a compile-time constant. This has been a GCC extension for a long time, but wasn't part of the spec until C99 and apparently GCC still allows more than the spec. More info: GCC docs [gnu.org].
[12:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:09] <exec> 08└─You probably mean "by value" instead of "by pointer". It is perfectly fine to include a reference to such a struct (aka pointer) into another one.
[12:41:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:11] <exec> 08└─Damn, you clang! Damn you clang to hell! Context Hint: GCC Plugin discussion.
[12:41:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:13] <exec> 08└─Use one of these: int *my_array = malloc(10 * sizeof *my_array); int *my_array = malloc(10*sizeof *my_array); In this case though, it's more like: int *my_array[array_size]; // array_size is a function arg
[12:41:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:15] <exec> 08└─So how do you have a variable amount of instances to something that you can go through easily by incrementing/decrementing etc.?
[12:41:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 2771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:18] <exec> 08└─One of the biggest lacks in Fortran 77 is any sort of dynamic memory allocation. Instead, what the programmer has to do is calculate the maximum possible size for every data structure, to know what sizes to declare the arrays. For example, if you use a queue to do a flood fill sort of operation in F...
[12:41:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:20] <exec> 08└─Not precise..... You now ended up with a variable lenght array of integer pointers instead of integers... Different example: void foo_with_alloc(size_t array_size) { int *my_array = malloc(sizeof(int) * array_size); /* do foo */ free(my_array); } And replace it with: voi...
[12:41:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 1980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:22] <exec> 08└─The functionality would be pretty much the same, but the I suspect the in-memory structures would be very different, which can have profound performance implications in some situations. (I'm not actually familiar with using VLAs, but given their syntax and the language rules I only see one obvious c...
[12:41:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 676 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:24] <exec> 08└─With pointers and heap-based arrays. The big difference is in where the array is allocated - are the surrounding variables immediately adjacent to the array contents, or just to a pointer to an array that's floating around at some random place in memory. That can have some profound performance impli...
[12:41:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:26] <exec> 08└─Is there any specific reason they want to compile Linux with clang?
[12:41:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:29] <exec> 08└─Ideology. There's a lot of fashionable hostility to the GPL and similar licenses. But seriously, code quality improves when you can get it to compile, run and behave correctly with different compilers. I've worked on commercial projects in the past that were compiled routinely with various versions...
[12:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:31] <exec> 08└─I did! I actually noticed the type and commented with the correction below, but it seems that the site ate it :( I didn't notice before I went back to work after lunch. I meant to type "except by pointer"
[12:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Kernel Is Now VLA-Free: A Win For Security, Less Overhead & Better For Clang - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:33] <exec> 08└─If your goal is to remove security nightmares, that is.
[12:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:43] <exec> 08└─3...2...1...
[12:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:45] <exec> 08└─Amazon is not a bubble. They do not provide a basic web portal and karaoke songs. This is very bubly and ridiculous.
[12:41:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:47] <exec> 08└─Why do gooood girls like baaaaaad guys? [youtube.com]
[12:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:49] <exec> 08└─Amazon is certainly part of the bubble.
[12:41:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:52] <exec> 08└─Or as popular as AOL or Compuserve?
[12:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:05] <exec> 08└─Do we know what he actually posted? I've not seen it anywhere. Was it something that actually should have been pulled or was it something Gab should have protected?
[12:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:06] <exec> 08└─https://archive.li/k63LE [archive.li]
[12:42:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:08] <exec> 08└─You have to develop a peer to peer network. We have to tear down the walls the ISPs are putting up.
[12:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:10] <exec> 08└─Right, so a bunch of tripe which if you were to sensor you'd need to also sensor your orange top.
[12:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:13] <exec> 08└─I expect some of the Gab crowd will move on to the dark web. The censorship by payment processors was used to threaten WikiLeaks years ago.
[12:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:15] <exec> 08└─I have mixed feelings about bradley13, first, that he may actually be 13. Second, that he purports to be a teacher, and as such should have gotten the lovely "active shooter" training that all American Teachers have gotten, where you are supposed to hide, flee, or crap your pants. So I can only hope...
[12:42:16] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03inertnet [4071] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 391 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:17] <exec> 08└─I think it's unwise to block people on the fringes. They will only move to realms that are much harder to monitor. It would be better to allow as much free speech as possible, not just because it's the right thing to do, but also to be able to keep an eye on those that may go evil. Let others be dis...
[12:42:18] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Unixnut [5779] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 772 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:19] <exec> 08└─Based on what I have read, the shooter had accounts on facebook, twitter and gab (and probably others), and he posted the same general tripe on all of them. Yet so far it seems only gab that is having the rug pulled under it, despite gab apparently being the first one to pull the guys account and re...
[12:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:21] <exec> 08└─the shooter had accounts on facebook, twitter
[12:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:24] <exec> 08└─Why hasn't there been any blowback against FB or twitter?
[12:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:26] <exec> 08└─This is ridiculous. Who is Gab's ISP? so I can add them to my shit list...
[12:42:27] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 674 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:28] <exec> 08└─My guess is that the blowback is being directed to Gab.ai to take the heat off of the more culpable combination of Twitter and Faecebook. The mainstream media should be protecting the freedom of the press if not also more generally the freedom of speech. However, they are doing the opposite. There...
[12:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:30] <exec> 08└─NO, we need to keep these fringe people on the fringes, wearing their fringes, so that they know that they are fringe, or not normal. We need to keep them embarrassed enough to not state their opinions in public, we need to make "Politically Correct" a force to be reckoned with, so that if one of th...
[12:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:32] <exec> 08└─Joylent, based in California. It seems stupid for Gab to use a US-based provider, much less one in California.
[12:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:35] <exec> 08└─also sensor your orange top.
[12:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1969 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:37] <exec> 08└─Mmmmm-hmmmm. Make the world safe for normies, right? Lemme think a second or two. How many neat things are there that were invented by normies? Hmmmm - I'm having a hard time with this one. How about Turing? He's pretty normal, isn't he? Except he was queer as a three dollar bill. No matter your vie...
[12:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:39] <exec> 08└─Does it matter? We don't pull posts around here unless they're illegal, which is a higher standard than Gab even. This could just as easily have been us.
[12:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:41] <exec> 08└─And thirdly because he has feelz and he mixes them. Nothing wrong with the crap the shooter posted, but his feelz got mixed, more specifically, by the Gab founders.
[12:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:43] <exec> 08└─In Gab's defense, they're Americans. Not only are they Americans, but they are American's whose voices are on the list to be silenced. Gab exists because the media has attempted to silence them, but they are still Americans. They naively believed that if they could escape the corporate bullshit cens...
[12:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:46] <exec> 08└─and free speech should be guaranteed, even if the platforms are technically private.
[12:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:48] <exec> 08└─I think it's unwise to block people on the fringes.
[12:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:50] <exec> 08└─Now, get off the grass, dumbass.
[12:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:52] <exec> 08└─They wouldn't be the first to fold and be forgotten.
[12:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:54] <exec> 08└─It seems stupid for Gab to use a US-based provider, much less one in California.
[12:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:57] <exec> 08└─It sure as hell isn't your lawn. But, I'll have to agree that it's not mine. It's the wife's lawn. Some of her people have lived here for thousands of years. And, the wife expects me to shoot dumb animals that become nuisances.
[12:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:59] <exec> 08└─Correction: They are not Americans. Some of them may be physical residents, but they are no Americans.
[12:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:01] <exec> 08└─All this vitriol and harsh talk! Surely it would have been better to have a nice, rational, middle-of-the-road aristarchus submission [soylentnews.org] on this topic? Peace and love to all Soylentils!
[12:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:03] <exec> 08└─citation needed
[12:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:05] <exec> 08└─My guess is that the blowback is being directed to Gab.ai to take the heat off of the more culpable combination of Twitter and Faecebook.
[12:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:08] <exec> 08└─You must be taking you meds, Ari. That post was almost lucid. Good boy!
[12:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:10] <exec> 08└─Except that if the social control media service happens to market itself as a pubic forum [theatlantic.com], especially when it gets used as a public forum by government officials for communications of office [eff.org], then in the freedom of speech obligation applies. Government officials are not u...
[12:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:12] <exec> 08└─Except that if the social control media service happens to market itself as a pubic forum [theatlantic.com], especially when it gets used as a public forum by government officials for communications of office [eff.org], then in the freedom of speech obligation applies.
[12:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:14] <exec> 08└─They waived that intentionally and with premeditation by presenting their service as a public service and building their marketshare upon that claim. If they had stayed a private, members-only club behind some kind of paywall or other obstruction then of course they can behave in whatever way they w...
[12:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:16] <exec> 08└─And, the wife expects me to shoot dumb animals that become nuisances.
[12:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:19] <exec> 08└─They waived that intentionally and with premeditation by presenting their service as a public service and building their marketshare upon that claim.
[12:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:21] <exec> 08└─Re-read the links two levels up. One is from the EFF the other from The Atlantic.
[12:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:23] <exec> 08└─"Get the armadillo gun [cnn.com], Bernie [wikipedia.org]!"
[12:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:25] <exec> 08└─If people can not express themselves through words, they will do so through violence.
[12:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:27] <exec> 08└─But what does an ed say? Poor aristarchus didn't get his gab sub merged
[12:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:30] <exec> 08└─Ok. The Atlantic Despite what you may have read on Twitter, the judge did not hold that Twitter is public property
[12:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:32] <exec> 08└─Let's get some data instead of opinion, for example from the Anti-Defamation League. [adl.org]
[12:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:34] <exec> 08└─> russian troll deflects by not responding the the assertions made in the post
[12:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:36] <exec> 08└─Gab is presumably easier to cut off. Facebook and Twitter are presumably not contained in a single data center behind a single ISP.
[12:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:38] <exec> 08└─A measly 28 deaths per year. Doesn't seem like it's worth eliminating free speech.
[12:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:41] <exec> 08└─Find a new registrar, douchebags. You're not the victims here.
[12:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:43] <exec> 08└─His posts indicate he is a real anti-Semite, and that he hates Trump because he reckons Trump is not an anti-Semite.
[12:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:45] <exec> 08└─I agree this is the right way to go. Suppressing their speech only drives them underground and intensifies their sense of persecution. To them, suppression proves they're right. Worse, it proves to others around them that they are right. Contrary to what censors think, censorship greatly increases t...
[12:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:47] <exec> 08└─Alt-math? 2+2=5
[12:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:50] <exec> 08└─11 people are dead. SN censors aristarchus subs. And yet, they still have the gall to act like victims.
[12:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:52] <exec> 08└─I think that submission would have been fine if you hadn't taken potshots at other Soylentils in it.
[12:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:54] <exec> 08└─How about you define what you mean by "normal"?
[12:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheFool [7105] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:56] <exec> 08└─I have to wonder what you'd do if SoylentNews's host threatened to pull the rug out from under you if you didn't delete a single user's posts, though. Hopefully we never have to see that happen, but who knows with how things are going.
[12:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:59] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure that mental model is scientifically useful to explain observed phenomena or predict future observations. How about this hypothesis... what if the dominant propaganda doesn't actually work, and they're the crazies? Then, for self protection they'd need to censor somewhat more rational in...
[12:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:01] <exec> 08└─No True Scotsman [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] Honestly, I rarely see it stated so plainly; usually when people display their inability to think they're at least not quite as obvious about it.
[12:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:03] <exec> 08└─He hates Trump because he thinks Trump isn't extreme enough. It's novel, though disturbing, that a man who stokes his base by promising to punish people his base hates is disliked by someone who doesn't think Trump hates enough. Like my dad always says "People are complicated."
[12:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:05] <exec> 08└─You have to develop a peer to peer network.
[12:44:06] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 84 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:08] <exec> 08└─Obligatory notice that all lawns may in fact belong to me. (c) (tm) (arr) (wahdahte)
[12:44:09] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ilsa [6082] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 68 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:10] <exec> 08└─If you want free speech, you apparently don't want to be in the U.S.
[12:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:12] <exec> 08└─We have multiple backups going back daily for a week, weekly for a month, and monthly for three months of everything worth saving (and a bunch of stuff not worth saving) from each server with an entirely different hosting company. We'd just switch hosts. Frankly, if it wouldn't be a huge pain in my...
[12:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:14] <exec> 08└─It is an interesting question. The green site had its share of pressure, I remember the scientologists being particularly difficult. Back then, /. did in fact start pulling articles and topics/posts when pressured, and it did cause quite a bit commotion in the community, but in the end, it survived...
[12:44:15] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:16] <exec> 08└─Shooter is an asshole who posted crap without threats on Gab. Gab deplatormed. Mail bomber is an asshole who posted stuff, including a threat to a specific person, on Twitter. Twitter is fine. https://reason.com [reason.com]
[12:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:19] <exec> 08└─War, censorship, and the invention of “fake news” [wsws.org] The “new cold war,” censorship, and the future of the internet [wsws.org] Facebook’s purge of left-wing media: A frontal assault on freedom of speech [wsws.org] The US military’s vision for state censorship [wsws.org] Silicon V...
[12:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:21] <exec> 08└─If the R team still has a majority in the House after the 6th, I hope somebody kicks your nuts in, old man. You idiots truly do not get that your brand of right-wing authoritarianism is no better than the other brand of right-wing authoritarianism. In fact, it's idiots like you that created the alt-...
[12:44:22] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1757 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:23] <exec> 08└─From their root home page [gab.com]: Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet...
[12:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:25] <exec> 08└─I would be surprised to learn that Facebook isn't its own ISP. But if anybody decides to cut off Twitter over the raving posts of some dangerous lunatic, I'm not gonna shed a tear at the loss.
[12:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:27] <exec> 08└─implement coinpayments.net gateway with privacy capable and standard coins. you can apply a discount for privacy coins or coins in general. coinpayments.net will even auto reconcile your wallets to USD for you if you want them to. once you've gotten enough people paying with coins you can disable PP...
[12:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:30] <exec> 08└─... Tweeter is still owned by... whoever owns Tweet. 1st amendment does not apply to private entity.
[12:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:32] <exec> 08└─Trump has not espoused anti-Semitism. He has been the most pro-Israel of recent presidents. He moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, which his predecessors feared to do because it would enrage Palestinians. Trump's daughter also married a Jew and converted to Judaism. He has also won several awards fro...
[12:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:34] <exec> 08└─Except that it isn't as clear as that when discussing Net Neutrality [arstechnica.com], back when they were in favor of it. More specifically the carriers argued that forcing them to allow all traffic would be a violation of the ISP's First Amendment rights. The FCC argued that the job of an ISP as...
[12:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:36] <exec> 08└─It is funny how that works. "Adversity doesn't build your character. Adversity reveals your character." That's a bit of what we're seeing here. People who only support free speech when they agree with what is being said are no champions of free speech at all. We have an Establishment-driven narrativ...
[12:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:39] <exec> 08└─Is that to insinuate that their speech is less deserving of freedom than others'? I hear and read speech all the time that is stupid, uninformed, and hateful. That, though, is the price of living in a free society. If I muzzle them, then why shouldn't they also muzzle me?
[12:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:41] <exec> 08└─You should not be surprised. The Democratic Party is a right-wing party, and the SJWs and their friends in #metoo are a right-wing authoritarian movement. The only confusion is that the press keeps printing Democratic Party propaganda saying that it somehow represents progressives, and we mistake th...
[12:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:43] <exec> 08└─I cannot believe that we still have to argue why free speech is good. We fought literal Nazis to defend it. We fought a long Cold War against communism to defend it. It is enshrined in our Constitution and is still taught to every school child in the USA. Yet here we are in 2018, having to argue yet...
[12:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:45] <exec> 08└─Net Neutrality isn't at issue here. The ISP terminated their client's contract for (presumably) going against some arbitrary terms and conditions. They are not taking it upon themselves to selectively manage the client's content. They are simply firing a client they don't want. And what does the fir...
[12:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:48] <exec> 08└─If ISP's are common carriers then they are more than just businesses. They are providers of telecommunications infrastructure. They would indeed be limited to whom they could deny access to. At a minimum they could not discriminate or allow terms and conditions which allow for discrimination. "We do...
[12:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:50] <exec> 08└─There is a difference between the 1st Amendment and the concept of Free Speech. The 1st amendment disallows the government from impeding on your right to free speech. Free speech as a concept is literally what it says. Free speech. No government involved. No qualifiers. That is the worst xkcd ever p...
[12:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:52] <exec> 08└─git trulled biatch
[12:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:54] <exec> 08└─You know that editors quite frequently modify the text of submissions yes? It is amusing that for "free speech" SN seems to draw the line at story submissions. So SN is free but not really, color me surprised (please don't shoot me in the back)
[12:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:57] <exec> 08└─Don't even try reason with these people. Orange man bad. Another man did a bad thing. The bad Orange man responsible. That is about the limit of their arguments. When a supposed (guy was registered Dim by screenshots I saw until after he was arrested, his social media was following lots Lefties and...
[12:44:58] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1290 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:59] <exec> 08└─Notice how many dogs aren't barking here. Where is the EFF? Weren't they founded for exactly this fight? The closest one can find on their website is a bland statement of non-support for corporate censorship. Not opposition you understand, because the effort is lead by "friends" they work with on so...
[12:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:01] <exec> 08└─As long as courts continue to allow money to be a form of political expression, those with more money will have more political speech. This is just a bunch of mangy curs growling over some dropped tidbits.
[12:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:03] <exec> 08└─There aren't any. The banned have already tried everything. Visa and Mastercard are the blockage, none trades without the mark of one or both of those beasts. When you get the Paypal / Stripe ban you find every smaller processor will also refuse your business and you can't even make your own. Loss o...
[12:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:06] <exec> 08└─The difference here it is a corporate issue and not a governmental one wrt organizations like the ACLU. I.e. It is a matter of contract law between businesses and not between citizens and the government. This does highlight the modern day problem that speech is now more governed by corporations and...
[12:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:08] <exec> 08└─Add Microsoft's Azure to the list, they booted them earlier. They were at least White[1] about it, giving two weeks notice so Gab could move without downtime. The really damnable thing here is this Korean owned (supposedly Samsung is at the top of the who owns who tree for Joylent, always hard to re...
[12:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:10] <exec> 08└─I don't know, I think I have grown to understand over the years that Civil Discord is nearly impossible in person, and totally impossible on the internet. In person at least you know you go to far the person will hit you, unless that is what you want, which it often is.... But on the interne? Forget...
[12:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:12] <exec> 08└─Don't over think this. Everybody and their dog had been trying to shut gab down for over a year. As "reasons" appear or can be rationalized, they will be deplatformed. Do not overthink the tenuous or non-existent linkage between the two events because there really isn't one.
[12:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:15] <exec> 08└─This does highlight the modern day problem that speech is now more governed by corporations and not the government, so the First Ammendment is not applicable.
[12:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:17] <exec> 08└─Don't try that crap on me, we all know it is a lie. Antifa is a terror organization. This is not debatable. The definition of terrorism is violence directed at civilian populations to induce them to vote in a certain way. That is the stated purpose of Antifa, therefore it is a terrorist organization...
[12:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:19] <exec> 08└─Correct. The whole "private company v. government agency" thing is just a convenient excuse when corporate control of the levers of government is so widespread. In A Corporatist System Of Government, Corporate Censorship Is State Censorship [caitlinjohnstone.com] In a corporatist system of governmen...
[12:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:21] <exec> 08└─Oh yes, the "impartial" ADL. I would think you were smart enough to see bullshit when you see it, but I guess not. Here are classic trappings of a framing. No breakdown by year (harder to fact check), no definition of "extrimist-related" (what does that mean?), and of course the fucking topping on t...
[12:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Walzmyn [987] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:24] <exec> 08└─That was my point, was it actually illegal stuff that should have been pulled? From what I saw in that archive, it was stupid, but not illegal
[12:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:26] <exec> 08└─Right, that's one of the benefits of true free speech. When people actually feel free to say whatever they want, others can look at some of their ideas and point them out as wrong. It's how humans actually make real progress. Like back when the law said you're allowed to literally own other people,...
[12:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:28] <exec> 08└─$ dig stormfront.net ; > DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-61.el7 > stormfront.net ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 27 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;stormfront.net....
[12:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:30] <exec> 08└─Not the original AC but I am going to take this opportunity to give my $0.02 worth. Is that to insinuate that their speech is less deserving of freedom than others'?
[12:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:32] <exec> 08└─Another Caitlin fan! There's a lot I disagree with her about, but we're very in sync on the establishment media.
[12:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:35] <exec> 08└─Also please note that Joylent is owned by Samsung. So the US taxpayers pay for a military that protects South Korea, where Samsung is, so that Samsung's subsidiary can turn around and attack the freedom of speech of Americans. How very nice of them.
[12:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:37] <exec> 08└─The feds should be seething to host this site. Imagine how they would love to have a real-time feed of the IP addresses of potential extremists. As for those asking why Facebook and Twitter aren't being taken down since he posted his vitriol there too: I think the problem is that gab is perceived as...
[12:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:39] <exec> 08└─Skimming the Wikpedia article on Gab that is linked in the summary: Founder and CEO Andrew Torba cited "the entirely left-leaning Big Social monopoly"[24] as part of the inspiration for Gab
[12:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:41] <exec> 08└─You seem to conflate free speech with freedom of consequences from speech. If you spout off crap that has no other purpose other than to promote harm to others, you are going to get smacked down. This has been the case probably since the dawn of man, as most primitive societies treated that sort of...
[12:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Social Media and the Pittsburgh Shooter: Gab.com Going Down - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:43] <exec> 08└─As to the first amendment, I thought I was clear above. If they are common carriers then ISPs don't have a right to impede traffic. (I would expect a court challenge to hosting and transmission to be equally successful.) If they are not common carriers the ISP has every right to impede traffic for a...
[12:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:55] <exec> 08└─So? Not on Linux, can't be bothered.
[12:45:56] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 292 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:56] <exec> 08└─It was intuitive. I didn't have to search for anything. It was all right there, and made sense. I hate most of today's office apps, and I loathe what Microsoft has done to the entire office suite world. Runnerup would be Star Office. I can't think of any others that are worth bothering with.
[12:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:58] <exec> 08└─WP6 for DOS was the pinnacle, at least in my mind at the time. Even odds if I tried it today I'd be annoyed with the time-wasting 'GUI' enhancements over 5.1, but still, I'd like to try it. I have a feeling out of the stack of original 3.5" floppies on which I have it stored several have probably go...
[12:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 1143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:01] <exec> 08└─There was a port of WordPerfect to Linux, by the Corel corporation. Here is a link to a post at the Old, Nasty, and now totally redundant site: https://linux.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] . But it did not stick. WordPerfect was designed by mor...
[12:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:03] <exec> 08└─No? I'm surprised. I doubt they've updated it much since the version that was available for Linux. Of course, it was a binary blob, not real software, so you would have to run it in a vm; but then again you have to do that for an up to date web browser today so who would even notice? IIRC the Office...
[12:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:05] <exec> 08└─Thanks for reminding me- I have it somewhere. It seems like a very long time ago. I remember it ran in its own Wine environment. It was cool that Corel made it for Linux but I remember feeling like it was cheating, but I'm sure they would never have sold enough to recover their development costs for...
[12:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:07] <exec> 08└─WP8, not the latest on sale (9) WP8 unsupported on more recent releases, YMMV see here [reddit.com]
[12:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:10] <exec> 08└─Of late I've been using the generally excellent FocusWriter [gottcode.org] full screen editor for distraction free writing
[12:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:12] <exec> 08└─When I saw WordPerfect 4.2 and gave it a spin, I thought it was a pre-alpha leak or a cracked edition of pre-alpha binaries. One thing that I thought was outrageous was that people through no fault of their own could end up with defective markup and you'd have to go into the reveal codes mode and ma...
[12:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:14] <exec> 08└─One thing that I thought was outrageous was that people through no fault of their own could end up with defective markup and you'd have to go into the reveal codes mode and manually diagnose and fix the error caused by the program.
[12:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:16] <exec> 08└─Alt-F11 does it for me :)
[12:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 1771 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:18] <exec> 08└─To digress briefly, I started with v4.2 as well, using another of its strengths - cross platform support; I was using it on DOS and at least three UNIX flavours concurrently. IIRC, the DOS version was still written almost entirely in assembly at that point, although 5.1 was probably the release most...
[12:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03MuadDib [4439] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:21] <exec> 08└─Latex anyone??? Much clearer ad all codes are plain ASCII.
[12:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:23] <exec> 08└─Oh, many loved being able to dig around in the codes to correct markup in WordPerfect. However, time spend dorking with markup was not time spend on the task at hand. In other words it was an unproductive waste of time and resources. Writing is a creative task for the most part and the number of hou...
[12:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Shire [5824] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:25] <exec> 08└─I was one of the beta testers for WP for Xenix and still have a copy of the software. Primarily ran it on Wyse150 terminals and it worked really well. Those were simpler times when you could run an entire office on a single Motorola 68000.
[12:46:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03drussell [2678] 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 1142 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:27] <exec> 08└─I use WordPerfect 10 and 11 as my main word processor. (Some machines that I use it on have 10 installed, some 11.) Reveal codes is essential for doing good, efficient, consistent layouts. That is why it is still widely used for preparing legal documents. I often "fix" people's Word documents by hav...
[12:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 971 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:30] <exec> 08└─There was a "Wordperfect 9" for Linux but it was a complete re-write from a third party, authorized by Corel, rather than a port of the Windows version. I still have a copy somewhere on some old machines. It was free, you just had to register and get a serial number code at install time. It was actu...
[12:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:32] <exec> 08└─On second thought, I think I was wrong... It was 8 for Linux, right around the time that 9 for Windows came out.
[12:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:34] <exec> 08└─WordPerfect 19 is the current version for Windows, not 9.
[12:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:36] <exec> 08└─Eh, what's one 1 between friends? In any case, there's no recent WP version on Linux.
[12:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:38] <exec> 08└─I've found that most software gets worse with each subsequent release. With the exception of the addition of inline multimedia, I'd be 100% happy with vax mail and lse (still my favorite text editor).
[12:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:41] <exec> 08└─WordPerfect was designed by mormans[sic]. . .
[12:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:43] <exec> 08└─Similar experience for me too. I'll have to dig up my Linux Corel WP. 8 sounds about right. I'll comment sometime later if I find it. My memory is that it felt very slow, which is no surprise given the Wine library call layers. But in those days I felt most things X-windows were slow no matter how m...
[12:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:45] <exec> 08└─Latex anyone??? Much clearer ad all codes are plain ASCII.
[12:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:47] <exec> 08└─WordPerfect 19 is the current version for Windows, not 9.
[12:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:50] <exec> 08└─Windows will still interrupt and ask to install the new update ...
[12:46:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03McGruber [3038] 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 1128 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:52] <exec> 08└─Wordperfect 5.1 (and earlier) were designed to be used by secretaries who had been trained to be amazingly fast touch typists. Back then, colleges actually offered degrees in "Secretarial Science" - women took classes where they learned to type fast and accurately, how to file, how to accurate notes...
[12:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:54] <exec> 08└─Well if it were coded by Mermen, it would be rather soggy. And nothing to say about the denigration of lawyers? Provo is a nice town, from what I hear, but the way WordPerfect was sold off to Novell, and then to Corel, where it was left to die, does resemble an awful lot of business that comes out o...
[12:46:55] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 608 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:56] <exec> 08└─No. My personal alternative to LaTeX (la-tech), is to viciously beat the head of my penis with a ball-peen hammer for 15 minutes. That's not a word processing program in any sense of the word, but a medieval torture device. LaTeX is something that some scientists need to learn because their document...
[12:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:58] <exec> 08└─The advantage of revealing codes (ie the markup) was to undo the mess that the user themselves might have created in the process of arranging the format and then perhaps re-arranging because the boss demanded a different layout. It was not to have fun examining the markup, as you seem to assume. Aft...
[12:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:01] <exec> 08└─Word was much more friendly to the occasional user and the "hunt-n-peck" keyboard user. There were many more of those than trained secretaries, so Word won out.
[12:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03sez11a [6954] (Score: 1) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:03] <exec> 08└─This is precisely the reason I'm working on VimStar: https://github.com [github.com] This is a Neovim/Vim distribution with a focus on writing. It works right now if you use Neovim; I haven't tested it with Vim yet, or on operating systems other than Linux, which is why there's no re...
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[12:47:05] <exec> 08└─Except it is more of a programming language rather than markup…
[12:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:08] <exec> 08└─Just FYI, it's a myth that using WINE libraries causes a slow down, or for that matter that simply running windows binaries through WINE causes a slowdown either. Wine is not an emulator, or a vm, it's better to think of it as a port of the Win32 subsystem to X. There's no 'translation overhead' bec...
[12:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:10] <exec> 08└─You mean like when I'm trying to edit a numbered list in Word and it randomly scrambles fonts/bold, etc? This shit drives me insane. I usually wind up having to completely re-type it as copy/paste keeps the scrambled fonts and "paste special" doesn't even help. I usually write technical docs with th...
[12:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03dw861 [1561] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:12] <exec> 08└─I love this word processor and run several flavours of WordPerfect on Linux: "WordPerfect for Linux" 8.1 runs on 32-bit Debian distros (as well as several others). As a native Linux application, it does not use WINE. For more info consult Peter Stone's excellent page: http://xwp8users.com [xwp8user...
[12:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:14] <exec> 08└─Sigh. In the context of "Corel still sells Wordperfect Office" I'm saying: whatever they are selling now does not runs on Linux, so I'm not interested to buy or to use what are they selling now Full of redundant repetitions as it may be, I hope I made myself clear enough this time: I'm not saying th...
[12:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:16] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't know what M$ Word does to its documents but judging from the overall quality of the company's products I would expect many bad things from it, too, far more that the occasional troubles that WordPerfect makes. However, WordPerfect and M$ Word are not the only choices. Try upgrading to Lib...
[12:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:19] <exec> 08└─Disagree. I took notes in math and CS and could only do so either freehand with later transcription, or in raw LaTeX, which also needed a pass afterwards for spare and missing slashes and sanity checking brackets etc. Every other digital input method I tried failed, including 'e-ink' since the degre...
[12:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:21] <exec> 08└─Yup. I know a writer and a policy wonk who use WP outta the 80s (mayyybe 90s) because it works like a charm for them. The writer uses word on her macbook and hates it.
[12:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Evidence Suggests That Kordylewski Dust Clouds Orbit Near Earth - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:31] <exec> 08└─We can't see them with the naked eye. Astronomy instruments haven't confirmed them in all these years, until now. To find them, you have to use polarized lenses, and you still don't actually see the clouds, you just see the effects of the polarization. So, you could drive right through them at relat...
[12:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Evidence Suggests That Kordylewski Dust Clouds Orbit Near Earth - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:33] <exec> 08└─It's not gravitationally stable, so the composition could change a lot over time.
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[13:28:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:57] <exec> 08└─if big companies can outsource to find cheaper employees then the consumer can find cheaper options too, right? Right?
[13:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:58] <exec> 08└─What we need is more mexican drugs.
[13:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:01] <exec> 08└─This will provide corporate motivation to invade Mexico to squeeze more money out of the remaining workers in the USA. I would be nervous if I were in the Mexican government. The narcos want you bribed, killed, or seemingly preferably both, the USA oil companies want what drippy trickle remains of n...
[13:29:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:03] <exec> 08└─I don't always feel compelled to talk about Utah when it is mentioned here, but I did hear about this one on the radio, and do indeed feel compelled to comment. While the radio station I listen to — a very liberal station — thought this was a horrible idea, and instead we should have a single-pa...
[13:32:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:37] <exec> 08└─Neat. I'm all for an Article V Convention. Since it truly is bipartisan, most people here should be too. At 75%, that's a high threshold ensuring bipartisan amendments.
[13:32:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:39] <exec> 08└─The Christian Science Monitor. Seriously - why are you on this site?
[13:32:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:41] <exec> 08└─But you're not doing a good job! USA is #2 largest greenhouse gas emitter of the 200 or so countries...
[13:38:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nuke [3162] 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 877 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:26] <exec> 08└─The advantage of revealing codes (ie the markup) was to undo the mess that the user themselves might have created in the process of arranging the format and then perhaps re-arranging because the boss demanded a different layout. It was not to have fun examining the markup, as you seem to assume. Aft...
[13:38:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06WordPerfect for DOS: The Program That Refuses to Die - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:38] <exec> 08└─LaTeX is something that some scientists need to learn because their documents are too complicated to write in M$ Word, because word processors don't support mathematical equations and symbols very well. Then they get converted to PDF for the rest of the world.
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[14:29:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:02] <exec> 08└─If those exact drugs were approved for sale in the US, you wouldn't need to cross the border, you could just import them. But you can't do that because our legislators claim these may be different drugs, they aren't tested for US regulations, and therefore they aren't approved for sale. And yet...it...
[14:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:03] <exec> 08└─My employer's health plan has a different solution this year that I hadn't seen before. For expensive long term use drugs they will give them to you for free if you don't mind them being imported from overseas and waiting for shipping (so you need to get an extra prescription in advance). They say t...
[14:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:17] <exec> 08└─Fuck this criminal psychopathic pussy-grabbing child-molesting miserable sack of puss. And fuck all his disgusting followers, driven only by bitterness, anger and hate.
[14:29:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:18] <exec> 08└─Informative? I can't tell whether this is hypocritical or sarcastic.
[14:29:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:21] <exec> 08└─What is trump even doing posting on some pissy little private third party web site? So they are imposing their own rules? Well, cry me a frikkin river. What's that? You think Tweeter is some kind of public utility like roads or electric poles? Sorry, that is not the case. Trump should get his own we...
[14:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:23] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the US government should temporarily host a Gab server to prevent the deplatforming of a Twatter competitor, and publish to both equally. The anti-free-speechers will wail and gnash their teeth, but they would do so anyway.
[14:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:11] <exec> 08└─I think they mean circularly polarized
[14:31:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 164 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:03] <exec> 08└─My proposal: solve the issue of "personal data privacy and the cessation of online tracking" as one of the social problem. You reckon it will be accepted by Google?
[14:33:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:01] <exec> 08└─Just went looking for an older reference on acid rain and found that one from The Christian Science Monitor. There are plenty more, but as noted, this paper was highly respected for straight reporting back in the '80s. Anyway, the point was that coal burning plants in the midwest USA were causing ac...
[14:33:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:03] <exec> 08└─Placing a stupid and hateful troll in the White House is the worst act of national self-hatred I've ever seen.
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[15:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:41] <exec> 08└─A couple hot dogs would be easy, but I'm saving those for when I truly do not feel like cooking. I never tire of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. A zucchini, onion and cheese omelette would be best, but I do not yet feel sufficiently ambitious. I recently realized I wasn't eating enough vegetable...
[15:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:43] <exec> 08└─And yet when your same stupid asinine attitude towards climate change creates a sustained multiyear drought in Honduras, and thousands of now failing farmers become refugees fleeing for cooler climates, then you flip your shit?
[15:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:45] <exec> 08└─I must admit that Global Warming denialists are inventive when it comes to explaining away all these consequences of Anthropogenic Global Warming, without admitting Global Warming has any bearing on the matter, even if much of their reasoning falls apart with the least little push. Of late, they see...
[15:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:00] <exec> 08└─And yet...it's legal for a US insurance company to pay US patients to go purchase, import, and use these unapproved drugs? WTF?
[15:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:01] <exec> 08└─It's a great idea, 'cause it seems that REAL competition is being eliminated in North America: huge corps allowed to merge to make mega corps, less competition means higher prices (as well as being incredibly STUPID!) More power to the people: glad to see there is some intelligence left in the world...
[15:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:04] <exec> 08└─Drugs in mexico are the exact same as in the USA. Not only chemically but in many times the brand name is the same as well.
[15:29:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 73 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:15] <exec> 08└─> and all new registrations prior to this point were bots SO FUCKING WHAT
[15:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Touché) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:22] <exec> 08└─In the case of Trump it should be a grab server.
[15:29:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:24] <exec> 08└─Informative? I can't tell whether this is hypocritical or sarcastic.
[15:29:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:27] <exec> 08└─What is trump even doing posting on some pissy little private third party web site? So they are imposing their own rules? Well, cry me a frikkin river. What's that? You think Tweeter is some kind of public utility like roads or electric poles? Sorry, that is not the case.
[15:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:29] <exec> 08└─I'm the OP and honestly, I'm puzzled by this as well...
[15:29:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hyperloop Startup Says Construction on Abu Dhabi Track Will Commence in Q3 2019 - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:29:39] <exec> 08└─I know, most of you don't watch videos - but try this. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[15:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:01] <exec> 08└─Sneakernet.
[15:30:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:02] <exec> 08└─Go look at pictures of north korea. Life is different for the elites.
[15:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:04] <exec> 08└─It's not even a comparison. People in china travel to the border to gawk at north koreans That said I don't see how a shift to business use indicates that they're using it like a criminal syndicate. I think the fact they generally operate like a criminal syndicate might indicate that.
[15:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:46] <exec> 08└─I remember a day when one could fit a fun game in 4k bytes of memory.
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[16:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:13] <exec> 08└─At this point, I thought the big question was "potentially life bearing" as a big open-question research thing. If we had the resources and technology needed to get our gooey flesh-bag selves to these planets for colonizing, we'd have the resources and technology to rearrange our own solar system to...
[16:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:14] <exec> 08└─We can't even engineer a parasol to shield the earth from part of the sun's emissions. I don't mean to put the earth in darkness - just a parasol or mirror to deflect a small percentage of the energy we absorb. The greenhouse won't heat up, if the excess energy is deflected away, can it? What would...
[16:28:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:25] <exec> 08└─He'll change his tune when the suckkinis are extincted. Who the hell wants to suck a kini anyway?
[16:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zanothis [3445] (Score: 1) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 1184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:42] <exec> 08└─A quick search on Avonex, listed in TFA, indicates that it is manufactured by an American pharmaceutical company. I haven't been able to find where they manufacture this particular drug, but we'll assume for the sake of argument that it's manufactured in the USA. That would mean that the medications...
[16:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:28:44] <exec> 08└─Additionally, these medications ARE approved for sale in the USA, they just cost 3x as much because we have no bargaining power with which to stop outrageous drug price increases. If you recall, Australia had a similar problem with Adobe products, though at least Photoshop isn't required to treat de...
[16:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:05] <exec> 08└─It already does [whitehouse.gov], but Trump doesn't care to use it.
[16:29:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:07] <exec> 08└─Trump should get his own website. With blackjack! And hookers! Ah, forget the website.
[16:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:09] <exec> 08└─To anyone dumb enough to keep saying that Twitter is a "private company": Prince Alwaleed Meets Twitter Management in New York [mideast-times.com] HRH Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, Chairman of Kingdom Holding Company (KHC), met with Mr. Dick Costolo, CEO of Twitter, Mr. Ali Rowghan...
[16:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:11] <exec> 08└─[Kids] observe how the selfish parents get their needs met by others. They learn how manipulation and using guilt gets the parent what he or she wants. They develop a false self and use aggression and intimidation to get their way.[13] Some of the most common issues in narcissistic parenting are due...
[16:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hyperloop Startup Says Construction on Abu Dhabi Track Will Commence in Q3 2019 - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:21] <exec> 08└─Let me guess... Garfield. I figured it out! You're Jim Davis!
[16:29:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hyperloop Startup Says Construction on Abu Dhabi Track Will Commence in Q3 2019 - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:24] <exec> 08└─You get three guesses, you know. You just blew two of them away. Don't be so wasteful!!
[16:29:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Analysis of North Korea's Internet Traffic Shows a Nation Run Like a Criminal Syndicate - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:47] <exec> 08└─That was pretty much my impression from reading TFA as well. It talks about North Korea cryptocurrency raids, then goes on to correlate traffic to where North Koreans are living or studying, but internet traffic is disproportionate to the amount living/working in China and Russia, and that 12 to 16...
[16:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:07] <exec> 08└─360 VR is already here, it's just not widely adopted, yet. Seriously, I really like playing with my Vive and I could see myself greatly enjoying a Planet Earth like VR title. Even, if they just made it more like watching an IMAX film, that would be quite the experience.
[16:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:09] <exec> 08└─We need to go deeper. We need to go to 32K resolution 360° VR [soylentnews.org]. You can specify the Hz. How about 240?
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[16:30:30] <exec> 08└─SIGH
[16:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:31] <exec> 08└─I would argue that a 4k or 10k game had enough technical limitations that it reduced the fun quality of the game. Not that it wasn't a great game for the system it was created on, just that it could have been much more fun with a little bit more resources. Games like X-COM, Master of Magic, and Ulti...
[16:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:51] <exec> 08└─Weird, I wonder why the word "leather" doesn't appear anywhere on this Wikipedia article all about the term "Redskin" and its origins. https://en.wikipedia.org(slang) [wikipedia.org]
[16:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:52] <exec> 08└─I'm 100% European descent for at least 10 generations. Most likely 20+. In the summer, my skin as red skin undertones, you could absolutely see it. Just because you have slightly tanned skin, doesn't make you "red". Otherwise lots of people in Asia are also "redskins"
[16:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:08] <exec> 08└─Well with Trump and Pruitt removing all the hard won protections id say there is good reason to worry.
[16:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bytedance: The World's Most Valuable Startup - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:30] <exec> 08└─They are responsible for a constant stream of spam across the internet. All TikTok does is grab other peoples videos, slap their watermark on them, and spam them to social media. 3 billion? Investing in pure hype with no substance. Seems standard practice.
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[17:28:47] <exec> 08└─The problem with this strategy, is while it's sufficient to mitigate climate change up to around 350 ppm(given the numbers you provide and some napkin math), it also diminishes, you know, plant and algae growth. Which are big ol carbon sinks. And sources of food. 3-6% less food might be semi-sustain...
[17:28:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:49] <exec> 08└─https://www.technologyreview.com/s/511016/a-cheap-and-easy-plan-to-stop-global-warming/ [technologyreview.com]
[17:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:51] <exec> 08└─https://www.technologyreview.com/s/511016/a-cheap-and-easy-plan-to-stop-global-warming/ [technologyreview.com] https://www.technologyreview.com [technologyreview.com]
[17:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:53] <exec> 08└─Consider me fully informed on the aerosol proposals. "what if we brought back acid rain?" is sure a take on climate change, though.
[17:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:55] <exec> 08└─Ah, I always wondered what the humans in the Matrix world did to "scorch the sky."
[17:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:06] <exec> 08└─Nah, the crops that are at risk of (complete) unfarmability are ones with hyper-narrow growing conditions: coffee, vanilla, cacao, certain mountain berries. Baby's first garden veggies are all things that are specifically easy for anyone to and climate tolerant: tomato, zuccs, squash, beans, lettuce...
[17:29:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 1581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:19] <exec> 08└─I don't always feel compelled to talk about Utah when it is mentioned here, but I did hear about this one on the radio, and do indeed feel compelled to comment. While the radio station I listen to — a very liberal station — thought this was a horrible idea, and instead we should have a single-pa...
[17:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:27] <exec> 08└─Except they are the same drugs. They probably came off of the same production line. This is just a way around the corruption between big pharma and the feds that is intended to trap U.S. citizens in a broken market.
[17:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:29] <exec> 08└─> But that only works if you can still charge a higher price somewhere else in order to make up the R&D costs. This has been the party line from Big Pharma for quite some time. I'm not sure I believe it anymore, at least not without questioning a few other things like excessive executive pay/perks/b...
[17:29:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:31] <exec> 08└─Yet according to the FDA it's still illegal to import them, even for personal use, because the FDA hasn't approved those specific pills. Even if it's the same brand and product. If it IS legal to do this, then why can't I just use one of the many websites which promise an online consultation with a...
[17:29:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:57] <exec> 08└─Heck, I expect my hookers to actually be of legal age.
[17:31:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:44] <exec> 08└─Dead battery might make it inaccessible online, though.
[17:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain_nifty [4252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:04] <exec> 08└─I can not think of any social problem, that is not quantitatively improved by reducing the number of humans. Less humans = Less problems, therefore -> kill all humans. Seriously for supposedly smart people, they are being incredibly dumb, this is how you build skynet!
[17:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:59] <exec> 08└─The Christian Science Monitor is an excellent newspaper for objective news. The Christian Science stuff is restricted to one regular article which is clearly labeled as such.
[17:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:38] <exec> 08└─Those ITRS roadmaps that looked at stuff like Silicon-germanium, carbon nanotubes, etc. predicted that many of those technologies were 10-15 years from being realized. 4 years is fine. Tack on some extra time to account for people laughing at the idea of a return to "vacuum tubes".
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[18:28:29] <exec> 08└─Not to go off on a tangent, but what's their angle here?
[18:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:44] <exec> 08└─We currently emit the stuff near the ground. Switch to electric cars, solar, fusion, etc. and inject it into the stratosphere instead. FTA you were fully informed about: By 2070, he estimates, the program would need to be injecting a bit more than a million tons per year using a fleet of a hundred a...
[18:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:45] <exec> 08└─Ah, yes. The movie that justified using humans as "batteries" by throwing in "a form of fusion". That even more vague throwaway line should definitely inform our geoengineering efforts.
[18:28:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:48] <exec> 08└─At this point, I thought the big question was "potentially life bearing" as a big open-question research thing.
[18:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:01] <exec> 08└─then homestead it. Lots of my ancestors were homesteaders. However true homesteading isn't done anymore. Back in the day you could improve some unimproved land, and if five years later you had a productive farm or ranch, a house, barn and other outbuildings, you would "settle up", in which that land...
[18:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 841 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:23] <exec> 08└─They're playing a game of brinksmanship. Customs can't crack down too hard or the people in D.C. that want to kill the ACA and promote the "free" market would be forced to admit that they've done their damnedest to make the market non-free. It's popcorn time. Since we're talking about big bucks, thi...
[18:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:24] <exec> 08└─Sure, they're the same drugs, but they're still illegal to import. Doesn't matter if you're doing it personally, on behalf of a company, or a company importing in bulk. It's still illegal. And this company is paying people to violate that law. If the law is so goddamn broken, FIX IT instead of just...
[18:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:26] <exec> 08└─My employer's health plan has a different solution this year that I hadn't seen before. For expensive long term use drugs they will give them to you for free if you don't mind them being imported from overseas and waiting for shipping (so you need to get an extra prescription in advance). They say t...
[18:29:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:52] <exec> 08└─For the love of Michio Kaku hug your kids!!!! You see what happens when you don't?!?!
[18:29:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:29:54] <exec> 08└─Really interesting, this describes many people I knew growing up. All children of Boomers. And wow, if you think they fuck their own kids up, talk to someone who had boomer parents _and then_ narcissistic boomer in-laws.
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[19:28:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Watch Closely as NASA Deploys the World's Biggest Parachute at Supersonic Speeds - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:34] <exec> 08└─If the mission gets pushed back at all we might see a BFR land on Mars before the parachute is used
[19:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:44] <exec> 08└─Seen Wolowitz back to space to install them on HUBBLE. Small, light and NO moving parts. a prefect fit for the myopic telescope with glasses.
[19:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:46] <exec> 08└─In my work I use fiber optic based gyros for heading measurement, these gyros are awesome, very compact and much better to maintain than the mechanical one, the "only" problem is that they cost about 3 times as much. I assume that the 30 times more precise is compared to the previous miniature optic...
[19:28:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:48] <exec> 08└─I guess it's our turn to analyze the spin in this news.
[19:28:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:51] <exec> 08└─From the abstract: "The proof-of-concept device is capable of detecting phase shifts 30 times smaller than state-of-the-art miniature fibre-optic gyroscopes, despite being 500 times smaller in size" - yes, compared to minis not to navy balloons. Their techniques solve issues that larger units don't...
[19:28:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:28:53] <exec> 08└─"reciprocal sensitivity enhancement." sounds kinky tbh
[19:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:22] <exec> 08└─They gotta practice those mental gymnastics or they'll all commit hari-kiri before 2020.
[19:29:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:23] <exec> 08└─How many zucchini per growing season do you think it takes to get a reasonable 1500 calorie a day diet?
[19:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:25] <exec> 08└─Trump said it would "go back". So there! Birds can always fly higher. I like birds. I like BIRDS! We all liked birds!
[19:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:50] <exec> 08└─See my comments about brinksmanship and our bought congress. In particular talk to the congress critters that don't want single payer or the ACA because "free market" and then don't want the free market either because.....well, they've carefully avoided actually answering that question. Basically, w...
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[19:29:51] <exec> 08└─Basically, we have a congress that wants to give us the worst possible solution and since it is unwilling to bend on the issue we are now seeing open defiance.
[19:29:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:53] <exec> 08└─Do you guys still have to put your bartenders behind a giant burka?
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[19:29:56] <exec> 08└─(unless the person seeking their importation could establish that the drugs were needed to refill a prescription while traveling or were otherwise needed while traveling)
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[19:29:58] <exec> 08└─Yes, except that the DNC doesn't want single payer any more than the GOP does. That would definitely kill a very big golden goose. You people simply have to vote this shit out, starting next week!
[19:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:00] <exec> 08└─You have the congress that you voted for! Don't forget that as you reelect 95% of them every time the opportunity to fix the problem comes around.
[19:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:02] <exec> 08└─I doubt any individual is going to have any problems here. The last thing the GOP wants is to shine a bright light on this issue. Also, this is the insurance plan provided as a benefit to Utah State employees and it has the backing of the state government. So any light that shines there would also o...
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[19:30:29] <exec> 08└─I think zis gets to zee very heart of your problems. I am thinkink you should come back, zit on ze little couch and twoooly get in touch weeth your repressed memories.
[19:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:30] <exec> 08└─Does paying a nanny or service to do it for you count ?
[19:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:33] <exec> 08└─FYI pus has one s. Trump is a bag of pus. If he were a bag of cats, he'd be less rotten, and we'd all be happier. If only!
[19:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:35] <exec> 08└─Where? in Thailand?
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[19:30:37] <exec> 08└─Followed your link and read Trump's remarks upon arriving in Illinois. Unbelievable.
[19:32:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Nobody’s Cellphone Is Really That Secure - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:17] <exec> 08└─s/individual of interest/political office holder/ The NSA is probably the single most dangerous of America's enemies.
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[20:28:42] <exec> 08└─Just want to say thanks for not only supplying a direct youtube link, but also having it set to the exact time the parachute deploys.
[20:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03hereweareagain [6590] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:58] <exec> 08└─Would be interesting to see what they could do with say, motorcycle applications...
[20:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:59] <exec> 08└─The gyros in the Hubble are stabilizers. Optical gyros can't do that.
[20:29:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:01] <exec> 08└─Testing my memory, weren't the first optical angular rate sensors called "ring laser gyros"? They were, iirc, briefcase sized and many thousands of $$$. Used to measure continental drift...?
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[20:29:33] <exec> 08└─Cause apparently, the world is short on pigeons.
[20:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:34] <exec> 08└─Mr. Koch and his friends spend a huge amount of money convincing people to support his view. Just like the tobacco industry did when questions were being asked about the health costs of smoking. I live in a country where birds took the ecological niches that mammals took everywhere else, including...
[20:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:07] <exec> 08└─Part of the DNC doesn't want it. art does. The part that doesn't got a slap to the back of the head and is widely seen to be the reason Trump won the election last time.
[20:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:08] <exec> 08└─You are aware that I don't get to vote for all of them, arent you? I voted for the ones that support single payer.
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[20:30:32] <exec> 08└─[Kids] observe how the selfish parents get their needs met by others. They learn how manipulation and using guilt gets the parent what he or she wants. They develop a false self and use aggression and intimidation to get their way.[13] Some of the most common issues in narcissistic parenting are due...
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[20:30:42] <exec> 08└─allegedly child-molesting.
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[21:28:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:53] <exec> 08└─i've been scouting craigslist for a linux gaming machine that would work without kernel blobs, and o. m. g. for $650 or so there's an amazing choice of very nice-looking rigs with gtx 1060, an nvidia card they say plays really well with linux-libre. my ny resolution, i tell ya.
[21:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:55] <exec> 08└─Walmart is as big a symptom of American decline as Trump presidency.
[21:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:57] <exec> 08└─Half the portion for twice the price.
[21:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:59] <exec> 08└─an nvidia card they say plays really well with linux-libre.
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[21:29:01] <exec> 08└─good to know about GTX 780ti, i can see them used systems for sale as well :)
[21:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:04] <exec> 08└─You can see on the Phoronix graphs that the 780ti really dominates the benchmarks for the nouveau driver. They seem to be going for about $180 used on ebay. Note: If you see someone on ebay selling an Nvidia card "brand new" "unbranded" from China, the chances that it's a fake (an older, slower card...
[21:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Watch Closely as NASA Deploys the World's Biggest Parachute at Supersonic Speeds - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:14] <exec> 08└─Mars 2020 [wikipedia.org] is based on proven technologies from the Curiosity mission, such as the infamous "rocket crane", but it has different science instruments. The 2020 launch window [wikipedia.org] enables spacecraft to get to Mars quicker and cheaper. ExoMars rover, Mars Hope, a "2020 Chinese...
[21:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Watch Closely as NASA Deploys the World's Biggest Parachute at Supersonic Speeds - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:16] <exec> 08└─> Mars 2020 [wikipedia.org] is based on proven technologies from the Curiosity mission, > such as the infamous "rocket crane", but it has different science instruments. Good for science, bad for getting the public excited about funding more science.
[21:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:34] <exec> 08└─> I'm willing to admit I just *might* be wrong... Are you? Absolutely, after writing a couple of engineering reference/text books and then getting feedback on typos and more serious errors, I'm perfectly happy to admit that I'm wrong. I usually go back to our final draft, to make sure the error wasn...
[21:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:36] <exec> 08└─Who cares much about the "size" of the loop? The inside of the loop is usable for other things. I don't think it even has to be circular. I believe all that counts is that the loop opening is planar, and even if it isn't, you will just get sensitivity to any other planes in the geometry you used. Th...
[21:29:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:38] <exec> 08└─Oh yes...size of the opening will determine the wavelengths per radian. (I am posting from a phone at DelTaco, as I no longer have internet at my house... My posts have to be far fewer and brief, and often incomplete ).
[21:29:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:55] <exec> 08└─So those articles are from 2013 and 2016, has there been any update on the real world test of this using a balloon? I was going to go down the rabbithole of reading the documentation on the Keith Group website but if you already have it would save me some time.
[21:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:56] <exec> 08└─Or instead of cluttering up outer space even more, make vast tracts of those films that radiate in the "window" of infrared wavelengths that go readily through the atmosphere. e.g. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] e.g. https://soylentnews.org
[21:29:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:29:58] <exec> 08└─...and pave the Earth [archive.org] with the stuff.
[21:30:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 1001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:00] <exec> 08└─Planned for Spring to Fall 2019: https://projects.iq.harvard.edu [harvard.edu] What is the status for locating and timing of the experiment? We are exploring possible locations in the United States. We have not scheduled dates for engineering or science flights and we are engaged...
[21:30:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:03] <exec> 08└─The calculation ignores the heat capacity and rotation rate of the planet. Just compare to the LRO diviner data on moon temperatures. The average tempetature is like 100K less than what they "predict" for a planet without an atmosphere in Earth's orbit (255 K). https://www.sciencedirect.com
[21:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mountain Birds on 'Escalator to Extinction' as Planet Warms - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:23] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM [youtube.com] Pretty useful opinion with the facts to back it up.
[21:30:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:32] <exec> 08└─What we need is more mexican drugs.
[21:30:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:57] <exec> 08└─That is all irrelevant. What I am saying is that if you don't produce an alternative to the DNC/GOP monolith, you will get nowhere. You will be forever distracted with 'this part-that part' (good cop-bad cop).
[21:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:59] <exec> 08└─I would love to see a poll taken by the general American public that asks if they consider equivalent foreign pharmaceuticals "dangerous" compared to what you buy in the US. Hell, when I look at where my "American" drugs were made, frequently it says "India" or "Mexico" ! LET'S CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN...
[21:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:33] <exec> 08└─A caregiver... not ideal I think. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:34] <exec> 08└─Well Trump likes the Soviet hookers... Not sure of their age though... https://www.newsweek.com [newsweek.com] https://www.mirror.co.uk [mirror.co.uk]
[21:32:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Nanophotonic Twisted Light Device Could Increase Optical Fiber Bandwidth by Orders of Magnitude - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:32] <exec> 08└─Circular polarization would give you two more modes, left and right. The hyperbolic language suggests that there is more to it than that, though. Maybe it's linearly polarized, but the angle of polarization is swept around the circle at varying frequency. I suppose that would give a channel count of...
[21:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:19] <exec> 08└─Interesting. The etymology of the word though is unfortunately accurate, although disputed by some. The term "red-skin" was, in fact used in conjunction with scalp hunting in the 19th century. In 1863 a Winona, Minnesota, newspaper, the Daily Republican, printed an announcement: "The state reward fo...
[21:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Debunk the Effectiveness of EnChroma Glasses for Colorblind People - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:21] <exec> 08└─It's under dispute. However, if you do research it, those newspapers from the time use the term red-skin with a hyphen, and are very unambiguously clear that it refers to rewards for dead Native Americans. Whether or not that has anything to with the origins of the team mascot is certainly up for ar...
[21:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06More Evidence Points to Chinese Origin for Ozone-Depleting Chemical Emissions - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:39] <exec> 08└─The point would be the attempt to take back our lives, and to organize as a people once again. Your point is not lost on me either. Trump and has shitbags are discussing abrogating the 14th right now. Graham is backing it with legislation, but the Orange Anus is boasting that "they're telling me I c...
[21:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Y Combinator Requests Startups for Atmospheric CO2 Removal - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:20] <exec> 08└─So [xkcd.com], between 'we haven't finished inventing it yet' and 'It hasn't been conclusively proven it is impossible'.
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[22:28:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06TruffleBot: Electronic Nose Technology on Top of a Raspberry Pi - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:55] <exec> 08└─Correct outcome, 80% of the time. In laboratory conditions without cross contamination. And with a process that should get more ambiguous with each new scent compared because of narrowing criteria for success? Now I'm no fancy statistician, but shouldn't this be functionally useless in the real worl...
[22:28:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06TruffleBot: Electronic Nose Technology on Top of a Raspberry Pi - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:56] <exec> 08└─In an analysis of nine odors, including those from cider vinegar, lime juice, beer, wine, and vodka (and using ambient air as a control), the team found that chemical sensors alone accurately identified an odor about 80 percent of the time. The addition of sniffing improved accuracy to 90 percent. T...
[22:29:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:07] <exec> 08└─an nvidia card they say plays really well with linux-libre.
[22:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:11] <exec> 08└─Importing everything from the countries with the lowest cost of living and fewest safety regulations to sell at first-world prices? I thought that was called globalism.
[22:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:13] <exec> 08└─Also be wary of ex-bitcoiners who realized they were losing money but also overclocked their GPUs for months at a time just above peak safe operating temperature. GPU lemons abound in some places.
[22:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:15] <exec> 08└─I will post again. Sears wasn't no Neiman Marcus, but it sold quality merchandise with top quality service. Walmart sold some stuff at cheap price, while bilking on others with mislabeling. They pay crap for their employees, and the service is as you would expect Today, Walmart represent the working...
[22:29:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03esperto123 [4303] 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 481 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:39] <exec> 08└─In my work I use fiber optic based gyros for heading measurement, these gyros are awesome, very compact and much better to maintain than the mechanical one, the "only" problem is that they cost about 3 times as much. I assume that the 30 times more precise is compared to the previous miniature optic...
[22:29:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:49] <exec> 08└─And why not? Movement is movement. If it detects movement then a counter force can be use of correct it. If the Gyro on HUBBLE are just big dumb spinning flywheels, then call them that.
[22:29:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny Optical Gyroscopes Could Replace MicroElectroMechanical Sensors in Devices - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:50] <exec> 08└─Let us note that a ring laser gyroscope has no moving parts.
[22:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:17] <exec> 08└─The calculation doesnt even work for the case of the earth.
[22:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:16] <exec> 08└─'insane idioticy' works just fine within the today's corpocracy. It's unfair to blame the messenger for the world's insanity of the present. Want proof, you say? Read TFS again and assess if a state-sponsored healthcare tourism is not an admission of failure to protect the interest of the state's ci...
[22:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:17] <exec> 08└─I agree. Big Pharma are not handing out lower prices in other countries because they are good guys. Rather, they are charging more than market price for drugs in the USA because they can, since all involved parties (insurers, pharma, hospitals, politicians) have created the conditions that make it s...
[22:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:20] <exec> 08└─LET'S CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN.
[22:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:56] <exec> 08└─Ok... so in other words, with the amount of hate spewing from your post, you should go fuck yourself?
[22:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Complains About Twitter Removing His Followers - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:57] <exec> 08└─Sign up for Twitter, preferably on a fresh device. Better yet, do this on two devices, one to be conservative and one to be liberal. For the conservative one: First note that twitter suggests several liberals for you to follow. This is plainly insulting. Ignore that. Immediately follow a bunch of co...
[22:32:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Schrödinger's Bacterium" Could Be a Quantum Biology Milestone - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:45] <exec> 08└─This appears to be a bacterial laser. Can be make it work with sharks, or at least sea bass?
[22:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Ceases Graphics Driver Development for 32-Bit Operating Systems - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:24] <exec> 08└─I agree. There's nothing technically stopping a 100 gigabyte game from being fun, since you can fit all the code you want in there before moving on to the evul graphics (cue the angry gameplay vs. graphics anon). But a 4 KB/KiB game is going to be limited by the file size. It could be fun, and it mi...
[22:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:13] <exec> 08└─We can fight human trafficing, rape, low wages, drug abuse, housing shortages, identity theft, and gun runners. What we'll do is use AI to recognize people crossing our borders, then have it alert ICE. We'll also use it to detect people deeper in the USA who may have overstayed a visa or may be abou...
[22:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Pledges $25 Million to "AI for Social Good" Program - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:14] <exec> 08└─Done and done. [reddit.com]
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[23:29:08] <exec> 08└─Yes this is something. Add in mechanical teeth to chew up raccoons, a servo-controlled tail wagger and a hydrogen sulfide emitter for authentic silent stinkers and you've got the makings of a realistic robotic dog.
[23:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:26] <exec> 08└─Globalism, as constructed in the 1990s, is the idea that everything is connected and the effects of no problem is strictly limited to the region where it's most prevalent; just a mode of understanding. The way right wingers use the word you'd think it was the neoliberal free-trade free-market ideolo...
[23:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:27] <exec> 08└─Sears? Sounds familiar. Oh, yeah: From largest US retailer to possible bankruptcy, Sears lines up emergency financing for potential filing [cnbc.com] Sears store closing list: 142 more Sears, Kmart locations closing in Chapter 11 bankruptcy [usatoday.com] Sears, a Onetime Retail Giant, Now Banks on...
[23:29:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 1151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:29] <exec> 08└─Did the rise of Walmart kill Sears? Or did Sears kill Sears? How Sears wasted $6 billion that could have kept it out of bankruptcy [cnn.com] Would $6 billion in cash have kept Sears out of bankruptcy? It sure wouldn't have hurt. Sears' ability to stay in business is in doubt [cnn.com] after the comp...
[23:29:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:31] <exec> 08└─https://www.walmart.com/browse/shop-desktops-by-type/gaming-desktops/3944_3951_132982_1231068_1097445?cat_id=3944_3951_132982_1231068_1097445&facet=pickup_and_delivery%3AFREE+Pickup+Today#searchProductResult [walmart.com] The article only provides one example priced at $1899: OP Gaming Desktop DTW2,...
[23:29:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:34] <exec> 08└─Yes, but then Lampert and his Wall Street pals would still be holding the $6 billion of stock they sold back, which would hurt the yacht manufacturing sector.
[23:29:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Launches its Own "Overpowered" Line of Gaming PCs - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:36] <exec> 08└─How many ways is this just wrong? Well, there is my personal contempt for all things Intel. Why are there no AMD offerings? Worse, they've chosen the most invasive operating system ever. Microsoft has been handed ownership of these computers with the installation of Windows 10. There is probably a d...
[23:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Gaia Observations Could Reduce the Number of Exoplanets Considered Potentially Habitable - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:35] <exec> 08└─I think it was all explained in the animatrix.
[23:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06To Fight High Drug Prices, Utah Will Pay for Public Employees to go Fill Prescriptions in Mexico - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:35] <exec> 08└─But the flow of money is from government printing press to pharma company. YOU are the middleman in this scenario and I'm sure both the others would be glad to get rid of you if they could.
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