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[00:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mycelia (Fungi) Extracts Can Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:21] <exec> 08└─how many bees waste their resources in pursuit of artificial light.
[00:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mycelia (Fungi) Extracts Can Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:23] <exec> 08└─artificial light is "medicinal"?
[00:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mycelia (Fungi) Extracts Can Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:25] <exec> 08└─Not to grow them. Maybe just throw them out into your yard and hope for the best.
[00:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:52] <exec> 08└─You seemed pretty crazy from the first paragraph, but the last one clinched it. Nobody in their right mind goes and sits in an uncomfortable waiting room for 8 hours just because they feel like it.
[00:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 1052 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:54] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the 21st century, Rip van Winkle! I am very sorry to inform you, but for quite a while now, SCOTUS has used the following process: 1. Would the Ninth or Tenth Amendment prohibit the law? If yes, proceed to the next step. If no, proceed to the next step. 2. Does the law involve commerce of...
[00:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:56] <exec> 08└─And shopping around isn't an option...
[00:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:58] <exec> 08└─Good thing single payer fell out of favor. It's all about Medicare for all these days.
[00:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:00] <exec> 08└─Paying cash for my bloodwork labs cost like $700. Cost to insurace? $40 billed to insurance. A whole fucking order of magnitude less. Office visits same thing but less dramatic. Without insurace? $125. With insurance? $50 billed to insurance, plus my co-pay. Is there a specific procedure or state or...
[00:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:02] <exec> 08└─You would first do it to go in for a non-emergency. Eg, the optometrist, dentist, dermatologist, or whatever. Then realize that you should be figuring out what you want to happen in an emergency beforehand. Here is an example: I have experienced this myself. I went to an in-network imaging center fo...
[00:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:05] <exec> 08└─Does the place know you have health insurance?
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[00:45:15] <exec> 08└─The correct term for these is Telescreen.
[00:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Facebook Announces a Smart Voice-Controlled Display - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:24] <exec> 08└─I never cease to be amazed with what people will embrace. It's like there's wave upon wave of fresh young people who increasingly care less about privacy. Seriously, WTF is wrong with society?
[00:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Announces a Smart Voice-Controlled Display - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:26] <exec> 08└─Someone better keep reminding them who owns Instagram first.
[00:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 1992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:57] <exec> 08└─There is other evidence *possible*, but like evidence for String Theory, even if the theory is valid is no guarantee that such evidence can actually exist - that part depends on optimistic assumptions about the boundary conditions being true. *IF* DM is normal matter within the still-not-ruled-out s...
[00:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:46:58] <exec> 08└─until someone comes up with an alternative, it's the model to use.
[00:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:00] <exec> 08└─typo: "How do you even "use" such a theory?"
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[01:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:12] <exec> 08└─So now they can grow immature people, the best immature people ever, believe me!
[01:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:14] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokanovsky%27s_Process [wikipedia.org]
[01:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:16] <exec> 08└─Premature ejacu... no, premature fertilization is the root of all evil.
[01:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:18] <exec> 08└─How about some research to make fewer of us? This is fine too I guess, but put it in a time capsule for when we are extinct. Only this time remember to put a big fucking warning sticker on the jar!
[01:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:20] <exec> 08└─Yep, no need for women any more. All the utopias and religions can come true. Including our Greek ideals https://plato.stanford.edu [stanford.edu]
[01:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mycelia (Fungi) Extracts Can Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:36] <exec> 08└─Once you have them, you can grow them in a closet with the light of a single led. Some have even done it a locked cabinet or enclosed opaque plastic tote with christmas lights. Tens of thousands of people are doing it without getting caught. Selling or distributing the grown mushrooms is what will g...
[01:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:13] <exec> 08└─In a few years, I am wrapping up and moving off to a civilized country with a decent, sane medical care. America is fucked. There is no cure.
[01:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:14] <exec> 08└─The policy proposal, which you can read here, essentially bars out-of-network doctors from billing patients directly for their care. Instead, they would have to seek payment from the insurance plan. This would mean that in the cases above, the out-of-network doctors couldn't send those big bills to...
[01:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Announces a Smart Voice-Controlled Display - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:37] <exec> 08└─I don't know... I grew up watching sci-fi where the dream was a future in which everything was driven or augmented with technology and companies like Google, Amazon, and now Facebook are making some of that tech a reality. I'm glad I'm living in a time where I can choose to enrich my life with their...
[01:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:43] <exec> 08└─Another tactic is to make underfunded promises, letting people die on a waiting list, of course with some people jumping the queue because some animals are more equal than others.
[01:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 2705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:19] <exec> 08└─Except, MOND's answer isn't actually accurate - much closer than GR without DM, but still not accurate (though the inaccuracy could likely be resolved with a light smattering of nonluminous normal matter MACHOs) MOND is also useless for predicting the acceleration of any stars in the "transition reg...
[01:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:42] <exec> 08└─In the 16th and 17th century almost all of the wars were fought for religious reasons, unless Catholic France was fighting Catholic Spain. Fun fact: The 30 years war (1618 - 1638) killed something like 25% of the German population, and as many as half of all German men in some places. Yeah, OK it'...
[01:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:44] <exec> 08└─That they leave out 2°C is because they are already saying that 2°C is very bad and should be avoided "at all costs", so obviously >2°C should also be avoided "at all cost". That leaves 1.5°C, from what I read in the local paper, the IPCC thinks that we may be able to limit it to 1.5°C but that...
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[02:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:09] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what Elon Musk is doing by trying to figure out how to remove people from the planet?
[02:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:05] <exec> 08└─Quit trying to take my choice away.
[02:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:06] <exec> 08└─When I had my heart attack, a little Indian lady came to my bed in the emergency room and put her cool little hand on my head and told me I am going to be fine. Never saw her again and she was not associated with the hospital and did not accept my insurance. I ended up with a different doctor who is...
[02:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:08] <exec> 08└─Was not insured at the time.
[02:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 928 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:11] <exec> 08└─I think what this is saying is instead of the vendor billing the patient then expecting the patient with no medical training to argue with their insurer about the medical necessity of everything to recoup what the patient pays to the vendor (or the collection agency the vendor turns the bill over to...
[02:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:13] <exec> 08└─Whoops! That's wasn't the preview button! I meant that I am comparing the cost from when I did not have insurance vs. my current situation with insurance. Though it occurs to me... you're not taking advantage of sliding scale programs and other charities meant for low income people without insurance...
[02:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:15] <exec> 08└─I think it roughly translates as: "You or your loved one as been injured or is sick, so we're going to take all your money when we treat you. Then, we are going to force you to incur a huge debt as well, because we can".
[02:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:17] <exec> 08└─Wow, that's appalling. Your insurance company gets to decide which doctor you see.
[02:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:19] <exec> 08└─Translation: it will hand over even more of your money to the insurance companies, while giving you less care, and you idiots will declare the problem fixed. I keep waiting to wake up in bed in a cold sweat and realize this was all just a bad dream, but the Dallas theory has yet to work out for me,...
[02:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:22] <exec> 08└─Indirectly, of course. They don't just come out and tell me that I can't see Dr. Nguyen - instead they make life difficult for the doctor, and cheat him out of money. The doctor can't stay in business if he doesn't get paid. Nor can he spend all his time playing the telephone game, trying to get pai...
[02:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:24] <exec> 08└─It will take representatives in the house and senate with the country's best interest in heart and mind. Gotta vote for 'em
[02:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:46:53] <exec> 08└─Citation needed. "Pair of Babies" is not useful even as a Google term. But at this point, if you're trying to raise funds for something insurance won't cover, odds are you'll need to leave the country anyway to be able to afford it. Note: if you're talking about Alfie Evans, no doctor anywhere in th...
[02:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:30] <exec> 08└─Yes, AI has been around for a few decades now
[02:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:31] <exec> 08└─I trust you mean AS (artificial stupidity)
[02:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:33] <exec> 08└─I does beat NSA - National Stupidity Agency - already though.
[02:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What You Need to Know About the First-ever DNSSEC Root Key Rollover on October 11, 2018 - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:02] <exec> 08└─IT wouldn't allow it since it hasn't had any updates for more than a year, and assumed to contain security flaws. The solution is to rewrite it so it has updates for the coming years and be allowed to operate.
[02:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:49:01] <exec> 08└─Colour me unsurprised. A panel whose continued funding and influence on policy is dependent on doom mongering hysteria about the climate changing, issues report predicting horrible doom real soon now (tm) due to the climate changing.
[02:50:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Increasingly Human-Like Robots Spark Fascination and Fear - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:13] <exec> 08└─Let's try humanly impossible - I can imagine voice articulated blow jobs.
[02:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Increasingly Human-Like Robots Spark Fascination and Fear - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:15] <exec> 08└─I guess you haven't seen Wall Street robots.
[02:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Increasingly Human-Like Robots Spark Fascination and Fear - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:17] <exec> 08└─"Gnnnghnyooo"
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[03:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:57] <exec> 08└─What is this, a scientist week? Why are them scientists doing all these shits, on SoylentNews no less? What's going on here?
[03:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:11] <exec> 08└─And you can call anyone complaining about there suddenly being a hunting season on women a homophobe. Win-win.
[03:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:11] <exec> 08└─Electrical standards? Fire protection standards?
[03:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Want to Use Dirty Nappies as a Source of Raw Materials - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:46:07] <exec> 08└─It's what I read first.
[03:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 1781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:27] <exec> 08└─It comes down to how exactly you define "intelligence" - a topic of much debate. I would assert that it's something separate from consciousness, or even awareness, and perhaps not dependent upon them. Natural evolution comes up with very creative, intelligent designs, despite having no consciousness...
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[04:44:11] <exec> 08└─Why are them scientists doing all these shits, on SoylentNews no less?
[04:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:33] <exec> 08└─I hear commercials on the radio every day about how fire standards are subpar where I live.
[04:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:34] <exec> 08└─No, I meant simply saying you don't have insurance. It sounds like maybe whoever you went to had some really crappy contract with the insurance company that required them to charge you x times more. Or maybe, was it before and after obamacare?
[04:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Announces a Smart Voice-Controlled Display - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:59] <exec> 08└─Watch out for the next tags, after #gamergate, after BLM and Charlotteville, after #metoo, after Kavanaugh, after all these have gone stale, they are bound to find something fresh and amplify it - if there's nothing trending, if there's no participation in 'social media', they are out of business. A...
[04:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:10] <exec> 08└─You still get laws with single payer as the government doesn't like spending so much money on preventable problems. OTOH, you also get things like free vaccinations, free stop smoking help and drugs, government buildings with no junk food (unless you bring your own) and lots of propaganda designed t...
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[04:47:11] <exec> 08└─If there taxes went up by a couple of percent, they'd be screaming about the theft, who cares if overall they're wealthier.
[04:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:13] <exec> 08└─Sadly, that sort of knee-jerk reaction is quite common.
[04:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 2672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:22] <exec> 08└─> Some people try to break it down into "natural" climate change and "man made" climate change, but I don't see the distinction, as man is itself a piece of nature, so our changing of the environment is as natural as anything else. There is such a thing as taking responsibility for our actions. Call...
[04:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:23] <exec> 08└─Calculate "climate sensitivity" for yourself one day from the data the same the people publishing papers do. Its the exact same number as the standard error on a linear regression between "forcings" and "temperature".
[04:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Species-rich Forests Store Twice as Much Carbon as Monocultures - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:41] <exec> 08└─Aren't Redwoods slow to rot? Around here, some of the old growth forests are mostly Western Red Cedar (Arborvitae) and the trunks can take centuries to rot and return the carbon to the ecosystem. Similar with Douglas Fir, though they rot faster then Cedar, compared to Western Hemlock, they're pretty...
[04:49:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Species-rich Forests Store Twice as Much Carbon as Monocultures - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:49:42] <exec> 08└─Another consideration is mixed forests are likely to have nursery trees. Around here, first the Alder move in. Grow really fast, fix nitrogen, drop lots of leaves as fertilizer, die fairly quick and rot quick. Then you might get Maples, which also enrich the soil with leaves, and finally you get the...
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[05:43:59] <exec> 08└─Google failure. "Extremely low use rate" seems to be the language I have heard elsewhere. Most sessions lasting for ~5 seconds. Off to the trash heap of other abandoned Google projects.
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[05:44:33] <exec> 08└─They could also provide a way for infertile people or same-sex partners to produce a child made from their own DNA.
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[05:45:40] <exec> 08└─Do they not post prices? I'm in BC (every Province is slightly different). Took someone to emergency recently, big sign with prices, both for Canadian residents (just over $500 IIRC) and higher for foreigners ($700 or $800 IIRC). Same at the Drs office, a price list of stuff that isn't covered, eg $...
[05:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:41] <exec> 08└─When I had my heart attack, a little Indian lady came to my bed in the emergency room and put her cool little hand on my head and told me I am going to be fine. Never saw her again and she was not associated with the hospital and did not accept my insurance.
[05:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Goghit [6530] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Want to Use Dirty Nappies as a Source of Raw Materials - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:46:35] <exec> 08└─Same thing for my two children, except we used vinegar and water in the diaper pail. A couple of years ago when my daughter was getting ready for her first she was fussing about opinions on the internet that vingar would rot the diapers out prematurely. I pointed to our stack of wiping rags that inc...
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[05:47:15] <exec> 08└─This is about Alfie Evans and Charlie Gard. That "miracle result" is a straw man. Nobody was expecting a miracle. People are expecting freedom, parental rights, autonomy, the right to die peacefully at home, the right to go elsewhere for a second opinion, and the right to go to a hospital that is wi...
[05:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:54] <exec> 08└─MOND's answer isn't actually accurate
[05:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:56] <exec> 08└─You didn't share any data, just a graph without any details and some ferociously wide error bars.
[05:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:49:24] <exec> 08└─Kind of like the persecution of folks who cast aspersions on the quality of the data provided by the advocates of human caused climate change. https://realclimatescience.com [realclimatescience.com] https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com
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[06:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:45] <exec> 08└─The real failure is that Google cannot be trusted with anything of importance, and people who have followed Google's behavior pattern of abandoning projects know this is true. - So the REAL failure is the loss of credibility -- Google is as trustworthy as a crack whore.
[06:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:47] <exec> 08└─Hah, you'd be lucky if a google+ page had even finished loading in those 5 seconds!
[06:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:49] <exec> 08└─Maybe Facebook can go next?
[06:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:51] <exec> 08└─Google executive Ben Smith has issued a press release or sorts about the first four findings from Project Strobe [www.blog.google], the audit of many of its services. He also wrote about Google's initial responses to these findings. I'll paraphrase the findings: First, Google+ did not gain enough t...
[06:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:43:53] <exec> 08└─So it's mixed news then - the general public is insane - but not nearly so insane as alphabet soup would like them to be.
[06:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:36] <exec> 08└─I can't go anywhere else in the world to get my freedom. The USA is all there is. If the USA falls, then I don't have freedom. If you hate freedom, you have so many choices! Take the UK for example. You get the NHS, you're totally safe in London because it is prohibited to carry knives, cameras are...
[06:45:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:38] <exec> 08└─Before shit hits the fan, I could decide to buy a different insurance. I can get a cheap crappy one, saving the money. It's a gamble I ought to be allowed to take. Who are you to stop me? I can even take that to the extreme, getting no insurance at all. I can get a fancy one, with special on-call se...
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[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─Wasn't it just about conclusively proven that hyper-threading had design-level flaws that resulted in security issues? Oh wait, I forget, that's all "operating as designed" and "Intel believes its products are the most secure in the world". I'll pass on Intel processors until they smarten up again,...
[07:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:04] <exec> 08└─How about a single core that's properly documented and not defective by design? I'd actually pay money for that. But I don't think I'd trust Intel to manufacture it.
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[07:44:52] <exec> 08└─A sudden image of Peter Thiel, rubbing his hands together, and intoning, "Excellent!"
[07:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:47:43] <exec> 08└─"For 2015/16, the overall NHS budget was around £116.4 billion" ($152.2bn). Seriously, guys, wake up. Your "non-fatal" healthcare costs TEN TIMES AS MUCH as our ENTIRE healthcare for the whole country that we give to everyone for free (you can pay if you like, but on top of basic care). For a count...
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[07:49:57] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'm sure people in Africa/SE Asia making $1 a month will pitch in with their $385 a year any day now.
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[08:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:08] <exec> 08└─There cannot be such a thing as a "mainstream" 8-core CPU. Look at your average user - they have some application open that might make serious use of 1, or at most 2 cores. Toss in another one to handle background work by the OS, and you're done. Even then, those 2-3 cores will spend most of their t...
[08:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:10] <exec> 08└─Damn, knew i should have kept the scare quotes. Actually, you know what? I will write "mainstream 16-core" without scare quotes next year when AMD debuts it. And here's your mainstream use case... uh... streaming your video game in 4K while using Discord Facebook Messenger!
[08:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:12] <exec> 08└─Nonsense. The extra 6.5 CPUs are for the nice chaps at MI5. You don't want the commies to win, do you?
[08:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:25] <exec> 08└─Second, the public wants more fine-grained control over data leakage from Google's services.
[08:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:26] <exec> 08└─an internal Google memo that said doing so would draw "immediate regulatory interest"
[08:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hubble Telescope Placed into Safe Mode after Gyroscope Failure - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:33] <exec> 08└─I've seen people saying that three gyros are the best (which intuitively makes sense if you have one for each axis), and that two gyros isn't much better than one, and that they are prepared for this because they knew that the gyros would eventually wear out anyway. But I haven't seen exactly what c...
[08:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:43] <exec> 08└─I can't make my left hand agree on the same strategy as my right when I'm playing Tetris, I can't see how adding two more brains would make that task more effective ..
[08:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:00] <exec> 08└─Isn't that what Elon Musk is doing by trying to figure out how to remove some people from the planet?
[08:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:01] <exec> 08└─Or maybe we could reduce the red tape ... so... partners who are willing and able to provide loving homes could do so
[08:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:47:45] <exec> 08└─For the same reason it would be illegal to sell miracle radium water to someone with a terminal disease. The straw man belongs to you: I guess it would be embarrassing if the treatment worked after the parents are told that their baby is to die.
[08:49:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:49:58] <exec> 08└─There is such a thing as taking responsibility for our actions. Calling everything we do "natural" is a cop out. No one wants to ride in a car in which the driver takes his hands off the wheel and declares he's going to let nature take its course.
[08:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 1429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:00] <exec> 08└─Yes, listed buildings are very different, but they are not listed just because they are old. Usually there is a reason for it, perhaps they (or the area they are in) are unique in environment/architecture, or have some historic value. When I talk about old Victorian houses, I mean the things like th...
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[09:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:22] <exec> 08└─What I don't get, what's the fascination/attraction in using those stretch limousines? I'd rather hire a bus or a train car, be them customised but with enough room to stand and move around, I see those limos more like a sarcophagus in the space available to move.
[09:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:24] <exec> 08└─Hire company was owned by an Indian, and it sounds like it was run to Indian standards.
[09:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 1558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:26] <exec> 08└─Unlicensed driver, unroadworthy vehicle, but most importantly: NO evidence of any use of the DAMN SEATBELTS. "Shortly before the crash, one of the victims inside the limousine sent a text suggesting that she was worried about the vehicle’s condition, using a profanity to describe the car." It's a...
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[09:44:28] <exec> 08└─If you read a bit more about this case (follow the links) you will gather that the limo did not have seat belts, and they are not legally required in stretch limos because they are classes as buses. It sounds as if a bigger factor was lack of brakes, as there are said to be no skid marks. I am wonde...
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[09:44:30] <exec> 08└─I have never been in one but I can see the attraction for special occasions. They are just posh people carriers and I see nothing wrong with that in principle. Some commentators are complaining that stretch limos are not made to adequate standards and are too big for the roads (even in the USA? Have...
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[09:44:44] <exec> 08└─Just like the previous generation of disappointing CPUs, these will not be available for months, or will carry hugely inflated prices. Intel cannot even keep up with the current demand for 8000 series CPUs.
[09:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:46] <exec> 08└─> Look at your average user - they have some application open that might make serious use of 1, or at most 2 cores. And one of those applications will be a web browser, with multiple tabs open, almost guaranteed. And because today's ad-polluted web takes so fricken long to load a page (I swear pages...
[09:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:48] <exec> 08└─Which is obviously not compatible with security of said user against third parties.
[09:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:55] <exec> 08└─Aviation safety.
[09:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:56] <exec> 08└─Scenario 1: Before Obamacare. Without insurance. $700 for bloodwork. What magic words was I supposed to say? Scenario 2: After Obamacare. With insurance. $40.
[09:50:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:50:54] <exec> 08└─Calculate "climate sensitivity" for yourself one day from the data the same the people publishing papers do. Its the exact same number as the standard error on a linear regression between "forcings" and "temperature".
[09:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:50:56] <exec> 08└─or dirty bombs to get used by a terrorist group
[09:50:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:50:58] <exec> 08└─It never amazes me how some people so easily dismiss climate scientist for their greed for a few $10K, but the fossil fuel industries' billions in profits are beyond reproach.
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[10:43:54] <exec> 08└─They can pack as many people in a limo as in a telephone booth :) Just look at India, they pack more people into a city than any other country in the world, other than maybe China.
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[10:43:56] <exec> 08└─I am wondering how they got 17 passengers into a stretch limo; it does not look big enough for that number.
[10:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:58] <exec> 08└─Apparently, they rented a *bus*. Then the bus broke down and the company sent them that limo instead as replacement so they are not stranded. The company seems shady. https://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] One friend of Ms. McGowan said that...
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[10:44:50] <exec> 08└─*SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) The three brains capture the scientists, enslave them, and force them to fight gladiatorial contests for their entertainment and gambling pleasure.
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[10:45:10] <exec> 08└─Or foster homes. Especially those British Parliament abused for 30+ years, or the variety of abuse stories you can hear from kids right here in the US. Adoption is no more of a risk to those children than remaining in a system with plenty of institutionalized abuse and corruption, and at least with...
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[10:46:21] <exec> 08└─20-30 years ago, I would have agreed with you. The rates for kaiser have steadily increased while the quality of care of kaiser has steadily decreased for the past 2.5-3 decades. And I say this as someone who had excellent pediatric care from them for most of my first decade of life, including a lif...
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[10:46:23] <exec> 08└─No idea, some places might have contracts with insurers so they need to charge you more though. Dont go to those places.
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[10:47:18] <exec> 08└─The 'welfare mom' you were just sneering at won't be able to afford the reusable nappies either, let alone the facilities to wash and dry them. Using a laundrette might be interesting (some don't do hot washes at all - or didn't used to, it's been a while...). The biggest hurdle though will be the u...
[10:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Scientists Want to Use Dirty Nappies as a Source of Raw Materials - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:19] <exec> 08└─The disposable ones just need to have the true cost of disposing of them assessed up front. The 'welfare mom' you were just sneering at won't be able to afford them, and their babies will be happier in soft natural cloth.
[10:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:06] <exec> 08└─However you look at it, you're paying AT LEAST twice as much as you should be doing because of your ridiculous system.
[10:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:08] <exec> 08└─Maybe he's speaking of Medicaid or the Veterans Health Administration both which badly implement single payer for target groups of poor people and military veterans.
[10:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:10] <exec> 08└─We can pass a bazillion poorly considered laws to chip away at that price tag percent by percent, or we can implement a single payer healthcare system and slash the bill by 75%.
[10:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:48:12] <exec> 08└─How would we reduce the GDP by cutting the per-capita health care costs by 75%? Unless you mean GDP as measured in such a way that we could triple it by sending out crews to break windows.
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[11:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:43:46] <exec> 08└─While nothing about all this rocket sciencey stuff is *easy*, I'd say this sounds like one of the less challenging problems to address: 1 - Drop a big heavy projectile out of orbit to smash the ice spikes and create a smooth(ish) crater / landing zone. 2 - Land there. And of course observing the imp...
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[11:44:02] <exec> 08└─They are just posh people carriers and I see nothing wrong with that in principle.
[11:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:04] <exec> 08└─Fuck! A nasty way to go.
[11:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:06] <exec> 08└─THERE SHOULD BE NO CONSUMER CARS ON THE ROADS AT ALL. Those people are mostly drunk.
[11:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:08] <exec> 08└─I used to do client work for Tiffany's in Parsippany, NJ. The car service they used occasionally ran out of the regular town cars, so they sent actual limousines instead. They are a silly vehicle. When the driver accelerates, you slide all the way to the back. When he brakes, you slide all the way t...
[11:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:26] <exec> 08└─Lets face it: They don't have a solution so they're ignoring the problem.
[11:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:44] <exec> 08└─"whether we could accurately identify the users to inform" - the compromise was complete, and we don't have logs indicating who was compromised or how much was taken, and we're using that as an excuse to not inform the victims at all because they'd have to admit the scope. "whether there was any evi...
[11:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:06] <exec> 08└─I swear that summary reads like an episode of Fringe...
[11:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Blymie [4020] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Mycelia (Fungi) Extracts Can Reduce Viruses in Honey Bees - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:43] <exec> 08└─I've never seen such behaviour, so I Googled before replying to (what I thought) was an insane comment. Seems like this typically doesn't happen, unless: https://journals.plos.org [plos.org] https://www.zombeewatch.org [zombeewatch.org] "Honey bees in...
[11:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:48:26] <exec> 08└─How would we reduce the GDP by cutting the per-capita health care costs by 75%?
[11:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:49:07] <exec> 08└─Obviously you didnt follow the earlier link to the blog post the figure came from, so meh... your loss.
[11:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:49:09] <exec> 08└─> which exceed by far anything yet created by the mind of Man in both intricacy, and often, efficiency? If I throw a rock off a cliff, the pattern of debris will be very intricate. It is an efficient manner in which one can break rocks. Is the rock, therefore, intelligent?
[11:50:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:50:44] <exec> 08└─To repeat what I said earlier, we pulled a lot of carbon out of the ground. We are causing this climate change. It's not good.
[11:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:50:46] <exec> 08└─On the second link, the last time someone (c0lo) put up that silly comic, I wrote [soylentnews.org] this: "Creating the better world" is part of the hoax. For example, Germany and Denmark created a better world by doubling the cost of their electricity while doing nothing to reduce their carbon foot...
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[12:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:39] <exec> 08└─[...] Now imagine a phony video of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un announcing a missile strike. The White House would have mere minutes to determine whether the clip was genuine and whether it warranted a retaliatory strike.
[12:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:41] <exec> 08└─Now imagine a phony video of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un announcing a missile strike. The White House would have mere minutes to determine whether the clip was genuine and whether it warranted a retaliatory strike.
[12:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:43] <exec> 08└─Meh, useful would be putting my face on Ron Jeremy or Batman.
[12:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:45] <exec> 08└─Now imagine thousands of launch detection assets with the capability to confirm/deny an actual launch, everything from satellite to ground based radar, ship based radar and in-country on the ground assets with eyes on the launch sites. Sure, go on alert for the fake video, but anyone who takes actio...
[12:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:47] <exec> 08└─Ok, I can certainly see some problems from this kind of tech...but this seems like a really awful example. The only way they've got "minutes" to decide is if the announcement is made in a live broadcast. So supposing some idiot on the web gets their hands on this tech, they've still gotta fake a liv...
[12:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:58] <exec> 08└─While nothing about all this rocket sciencey stuff is *easy*, I'd say this sounds like one of the less challenging problems to address: 1 - Drop a big heavy projectile out of orbit to...
[12:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:00] <exec> 08└─You're presuming that you can carry something massive enough to destroy a five-storey-high wall of ice under the influence of low gravity. Pretty much, the Earth probably couldn't afford to put that kind of mass into space, let alone use it as a throwaway landing-site-clearance device.
[12:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:20] <exec> 08└─and again [guinnessworldrecords.com] (world record - 58 people on a motorcycle, "riding" 1.5km)
[12:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:21] <exec> 08└─But judging by the colour of the relatives seen in the news I don't think the passengers in the limo were Indians, so they would not have been inclined to that sort of squeeze.
[12:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 2328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:23] <exec> 08└─I don't care whether it did or not, or whether it was required to or not - I'm talking about people wearing seatbelts. My comment stands whether you're in a tuk-tuk or an 18-ton lorry. This is not about a legal technicality when riding in an unsafe vehicle with an unlicenced driver.... this is about...
[12:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:41] <exec> 08└─Are you calling the ME behind every new Intel CPU defective? For shame. Don't you trust your government?
[12:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:42] <exec> 08└─Try OpenRISC or even some of the ARM microcontrollers that are now FGPA-able for free. Oops... you mean you want a top-performance, state-of-the-art, incredibly-expensive-to-manufacture, fully documented, bug-free, high-performance processor? Cheap, fast, secure, pick any two.
[12:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 2037 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:44] <exec> 08└─Not really surprising, is it? All the Intel performance came from speculative execution - you were effectively following all paths after a decision and executing all the things you would do for both paths, but then just throwing away the "not used" result. That's been shown to be inherently flawed u...
[12:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hubble Telescope Placed into Safe Mode after Gyroscope Failure - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:09] <exec> 08└─But I haven't seen exactly what capabilities are lost as a result of going from three gyros to one.
[12:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hubble Telescope Placed into Safe Mode after Gyroscope Failure - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:10] <exec> 08└─Or maybe rephrased with 3 to 6 gyros you can take as long of a photo as you want as long as the sun or earth don't pass thru the image LOL. But with 1 gyro everything is going to appear as a short arc, so you gotta take 100 short photos and stack them, which will burn a lot of bandwidth. There are a...
[12:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:23] <exec> 08└─The article doesn't say how much calibration they had to perform for each group of test subjects, to make sure they were isolating the correct signal from the senders' brains.
[12:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:44] <exec> 08└─Those are not mutually exclusive options. Not every couple wants to raise others' children.
[12:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:59] <exec> 08└─“It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it”.
[12:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Want to Use Dirty Nappies as a Source of Raw Materials - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:47:59] <exec> 08└─LMAO.
[12:51:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:51:11] <exec> 08└─One wonders what a "real argument" would look like?
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[13:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:27] <exec> 08└─From the TFA: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide al...
[13:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:28] <exec> 08└─anyone who takes action based solely upon a video announcement is beyond foolish. You do know who is president?
[13:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:30] <exec> 08└─The only way they've got "minutes" to decide is if the announcement is made in a live broadcast.
[13:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:33] <exec> 08└─'tis was nagging me for so long: How did luke skywalker end up in kilrathi space? Now we know! all fake!
[13:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:35] <exec> 08└─lol: that's like saying "you can't see me. I am invisible." duh, obviously the server hosting their "(geo locked) award-winning" news is totally accesible and visible from europe?
[13:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:37] <exec> 08└─He would probably assume its fakenews, like that recent nyt fiasco: https://www.bbc.com [bbc.com]
[13:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:39] <exec> 08└─> my face on batman about as useful as your face behind a guy fawkes mask, tbh.
[13:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:41] <exec> 08└─> anyone who takes action based solely upon a video announcement is beyond foolish A kavanaugh in one, here.
[13:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:44] <exec> 08└─Is a fake video really much worse than getting your information from people who just repeat what anonymous "officials" told them? I feel like the news has already been scraping the bottom of the barrel for so long that these fake videos wont really have much effect.
[13:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:16] <exec> 08└─I about 90% agree with you, with the engineering caveat that: Now imagine a 70mph head-on crash with speeds in the 140-150mph difference range.
[13:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:17] <exec> 08└─there are at least 20 people here who aren't blameless because they decided not to put a seatbelt on
[13:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:19] <exec> 08└─That actually looks safer. They are all wearing helmets and matching uniforms, and it is obvious they are going for the record, not just piling people into an unsafe vehicle.
[13:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:21] <exec> 08└─If skid marks are found they can be useful data, but there are several factors which could exclude usefulness including slightest condensation / dampness, oil film, mud / dirt film, etc. Also, if the limo had operational anti-lock brakes, skid marks won't likely happen: https://www.ncjrs.gov
[13:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:23] <exec> 08└─I think ledow's point is that the limo should have been required by law to have seatbelts. The individuals could have chosen to not get into the limo when they discovered it did not have seatbelts.
[13:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:26] <exec> 08└─Naah. It's just limo companies in general. They're all shady as shit. Place I work currently won't take them on as customers because they'll always rack up a huge bill and then disappear into the night without paying a cent. (They'd even reverse the set-up fee.) We'll do logistics companies, even on...
[13:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:47] <exec> 08└─Thanks to the whole webapps mentality, web browsers have become virtual machines. Never mind that CPUs are rarely utilized to capacity unless the dataset can fit inside cache. This because reading anything from ram, never mind HDD/SSD, will have the CPU sit idle for "ages".
[13:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:48] <exec> 08└─Then why are mobile processors cranking up the number of cores? It feels like all phones are octacore now, and while some of it may be bloat I can't imagine the budget phones shipping with any more than required.
[13:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:50] <exec> 08└─As you know, I have a running war with the Fake News Media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on Earth. And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the Intel community. And I just want to let you know, it's exactly the opposite -- exactly. I absolutely love what our Intel guys...
[13:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:07] <exec> 08└─In particular after the "material design" rework, with its constantly expanding and collapsing posts...
[13:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:08] <exec> 08└─So they don't know who may have been affected by this, but they were able to determine that they would not suffer any competative losses. "We're not sure who this hurt but we know it wasn't us!"
[13:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:32] <exec> 08└─Trump, alt-right and ctrl-left and whatnot have become boring subjects by predictability and the level of discussion.
[13:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 2, Touché) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:33] <exec> 08└─While the giant fighting robots may not be ready, we will at least be able to achieve the highest known densities of munitions per cargobay in record time.
[13:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 1473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:18] <exec> 08└─Cost benefit analysis shows that going forward, rising sea levels will cost us a lot more than the value of that energy we obtained. We have a lot of coastal infrastructure that will be rendered useless if it goes underwater. Over 1 billion people may have to pick up and move to higher ground, or dr...
[13:51:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:19] <exec> 08└─Cost benefit analysis shows that going forward, rising sea levels will cost us a lot more than the value of that energy we obtained.
[13:51:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IPCC Warns of Climate Change Consequences, Calls for $2.4 Trillion Annual Investment in Renewables - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:21] <exec> 08└─We wanted to stay central, and a large proportion of the buildings in the old town are of a similar age and style. We found a place that was recently renovated, from cellar to roof, and were happy with the concept that what we'd be buying would not need any changes. Technically, we were right, but j...
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[14:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:25] <exec> 08└─I won't comment on the conversion cost, because I don't know if 250k euros is a lot or a little compared to the cost of the boat. I know it is about the average cost of a family house, so "bloody expensive" to me. What they do say is that it will take about 12 years to recoup the cost. My question i...
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[14:43:26] <exec> 08└─> people will move to it without needing coercion by threat of force Demonstrated to be false throughout human history. If you have already invested recently in X because all your other assets use X, then transferring your company to Y is less lucrative. Investment inertia is a thing. > beyond reduc...
[14:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03pe1rxq [844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:28] <exec> 08└─The 12 year recoup is for the whole conversion. So not only the batteries, but also a new engine and stripping it and modifying it to accommodate the new engine and batteries. So the recoup time for the batteries will be less than 12 years. As for lithium-iron-phosphate: they are supposed to last mo...
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[14:43:31] <exec> 08└─I won't comment on the conversion cost, because I don't know if 250k euros is a lot or a little compared to the cost of the boat.
[14:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:52] <exec> 08└─>we are doing unspeakable things with the info we collect from the visitors of our site, so we can't show it in EU anymore, sucks to be you. FTFY
[14:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:53] <exec> 08└─I long for a world where global leaders - even backwater ones like the president of North Korea - have public keys published via official channels so that authentic announcements can be instantly verified. World governments already embrace the utility of encryption for their own use (if not the Peop...
[14:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:55] <exec> 08└─It sure is handy to have all physical evidence removed from consideration, eh? That way, you can turn all legal and political contests into contests of credibility and personal belief. So, to use a completely random example, if there's a video of a cop shooting a civilian in the back, the defense ca...
[14:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:58] <exec> 08└─Or if somebody unearthed a video of Donald Trump actually taking orders from Vladimir Putin, it could be safely dismissed as "fake news" by those inclined to believe Donald Trump.
[14:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:09] <exec> 08└─But for humans.
[14:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:21] <exec> 08└─Subject-line snark stolen from https://www.flutterby.com [flutterby.com]
[14:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:48] <exec> 08└─The article doesn't say how much calibration they had to perform for each group of test subjects, to make sure they were isolating the correct signal from the senders' brains.
[14:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Kicking Space Exploration Into Hyperdrive—Here's How - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:49:54] <exec> 08└─It comes down to how exactly you define "intelligence" - a topic of much debate.
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[15:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:29] <exec> 08└─Just as the ages of CP/M, MS-DOS, and MS Windows have ended
[15:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:30] <exec> 08└─Eeloo [kerbalspaceprogram.com] and Tizer [tizer.co.uk] You're welcome.
[15:43:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 129 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:43] <exec> 08└─I won't comment on the conversion cost, because I don't know if 250k euros is a lot or a little compared to the cost of the boat.
[15:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:44] <exec> 08└─Demonstrated to be false throughout human history. If you have already invested recently in X because all your other assets use X, then transferring your company to Y is less lucrative. Investment inertia is a thing.
[15:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:46] <exec> 08└─As a general rule, if a new technology is better than the old one , as experienced by the buyer, people will move to it without needing coercion by threat of force
[15:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:48] <exec> 08└─I seem to remember reading somewhere that the 85% of the cost of a battery electric drivetrain is in the batteries. Is that not the case? As such I would expect the cost of the batteries to be the main initial (and ongoing cost) of running such a machine. If it takes 12 years to break even on the in...
[15:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 1669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:51] <exec> 08└─"Are measures like these heavy-handed, or necessary to move mankind past dependence on fossil fuels?" Such measures are necessary, especially if you need it done within a certain time frame. The "invisible hand of the market" takes a long time to get things like this conversion done. People don't li...
[15:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:53] <exec> 08└─If the break-even cost is done correctly, it would include the battery replacement, i.e. the sustained operation on battery (incl. replacement) will amortize within 12 yrs.
[15:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:55] <exec> 08└─"Are measures like these heavy-handed, or necessary to move mankind past dependence on fossil fuels?"
[15:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:57] <exec> 08└─Here in this case, the buyer has to pay a significant cost for only a 12y return, the new tech improves the lives of everyone else, not so much for the buyer. Hence the legislation.
[15:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:59] <exec> 08└─How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost
[15:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:28] <exec> 08└─Why would they announce?
[15:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:39] <exec> 08└─They mean penitentes [wikipedia.org]
[15:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:11] <exec> 08└─because wearing matching uniforms makes it safer somehow
[15:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:13] <exec> 08└─Who in the 21st century still thinks that it's OK to drink in a car?
[15:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:15] <exec> 08└─You don't see a problem with allowing an unsafe vehicle on public roads for the sole reason of letting idiots flaunt their wealth and class?
[15:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:17] <exec> 08└─"If it was up to me, we wouldn't have open roofs, motorcycles or two sitters on the roads." - It's not up to you, you pathetic worthless whining bitch. SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE SHUTS YOU UP.
[15:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:59] <exec> 08└─Didn't they force everybody on YouTube to get a google plus account?
[15:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Want to Use Dirty Nappies as a Source of Raw Materials - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:59] <exec> 08└─Disagree. The time, expense, and effort spent actually *recycling* the materials should be part of the upfront cost. When you buy that big bag of disposable diapers, you have ALREADY PAID for the recycling. Makes sense to me. Will that cost make them prohibitively expensive? Maybe - maybe not. Perso...
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[16:43:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:23] <exec> 08└─Just as the ages of CP/M, MS-DOS, and MS Windows have ended
[16:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:25] <exec> 08└─Yeah, those statements are straight-up nonsense. Likewise any idea that Android is under any stress or threat. Clickbait.
[16:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:27] <exec> 08└─Yeaaaah, mabe let Google make atleast a beta release of Fuschia, before starting your predictions. Tizen is dead in the phone area. Nobody gives a shit about some Huawei propietary crap. 5 years, there's still half the Android users running versions 5 years or older. Good luck taking over Android wi...
[16:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:29] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the new web, where anyone with an opinion is treated as if that opinion was actually worth the bandwidth to bring it to you. Newspapers used to filter opinion pieces that were too easily shot down (unless they needed to please someone famous, or the boss, of course).
[16:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:31] <exec> 08└─We call it Fucksya, Google will just call it Chrome or Android. All they need to do is make it compatible with what they have.
[16:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:34] <exec> 08└─And what stops EU from fining providers of those OS as well? This "fine" is racket money. Want to sell in EU? Pay us this much.
[16:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 1179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:55] <exec> 08└─>Unless the better thing is really that much better to be worth abandoning your investment. True. However, that is *very* rarely the case. Even less so when most of the benefits are spread across society, while the costs are carried by the individual making the decision. Tragedy of the commons, and...
[16:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:57] <exec> 08└─That statistic (85% of cost) is probably for cars, which don't have the same types of costs as boats when you are talking about drive trains. This conversion was probably moderately expensive in terms of re-fitting the boats, because a diesel engine is really almost nothing like an electric motor pa...
[16:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:59] <exec> 08└─I like this personally as an idea, because diesel boat engine fumes make me sick to my stomach. I very rarely get sea-sick, but when I'm on a diesel fishing boat that is idling I get sick quickly from the fumes. I am stateside, btw, so maybe Amsterdam enforces better exhaust cleaning on their ships...
[16:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:01] <exec> 08└─As a general rule, if a new technology is better than the old one, people will move to it without needing coercion by threat of force
[16:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:03] <exec> 08└─I agree - particularly if we can feed the batteries from nuclear power plants, oh, wait...
[16:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:32] <exec> 08└─anyone who takes action based solely upon a video announcement is beyond foolish. You do know who is president?
[16:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:33] <exec> 08└─Why would they announce?
[16:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:35] <exec> 08└─Nutter nutter on the loose Whose opressioon shall he use? What a sucker What a tool Hear ye hear ye we found our resident fool
[16:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:49] <exec> 08└─Why assume it would be heavy? A suitcase nuke detonated a few stories above ground would probably do the job just fine - and your astronauts are already shielded against radiation anyway, just give it a few weeks before landing for the really "hot" fallout to decay. Even a conventional explosive air...
[16:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:50] <exec> 08└─Right you are! Story updated... and thanks!!
[16:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:52] <exec> 08└─I especially liked "pentitentes", where they apparently realized they'd been spelling it wrong, and decided to try something a little different.
[16:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:26] <exec> 08└─Seat belts interfere with the ability to bang and drink at the back. They also would require properly designing their attachment points, when limos are made via sawzall, pipes, and some sheet metal (look for it if you never did, there is no crashworthiness in a limo). More to the point, if the whole...
[16:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:49] <exec> 08└─I don't think you get to pick two with either Intel or RISC.
[16:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:50] <exec> 08└─I think you actually got the number of +s right, or underestimated it. Sad!
[16:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:53] <exec> 08└─There is a battery benefit to staying in deep sleep as long as possible, then firing up the CPU to do everything that's waiting as fast as you can before going back to sleep. Which is totally irrelevant to the fact that "my phone has more core than yours, and higher benchmarks in games you don't pla...
[16:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:14] <exec> 08└─I dunno, seems like they've had pretty stable google mail and google search services.
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[17:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:18] <exec> 08└─There it is folks. The merger of state and corporate power. Staring you in the face. Ain't no one got any excuse now for saying it's not happening here.
[17:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:19] <exec> 08└─There it is folks. The merger of state and corporate power. Staring you in the face. Ain't no one got any excuse now for saying it's not happening here.
[17:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:21] <exec> 08└─The US military spends a lot of time drafting plans top invade Russia, Zimbabwe, Singapore, or London... Few of the things they say or plan are designed to be actually put in place.
[17:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:23] <exec> 08└─Netflix recently cut the comments section for each movie. Now, you can only give a movie a thumbs up or a thumbs down. I'm sure that helps cut down on the cost of moderating the comments, but I can help feeling like that's not the right way to go. Nowadays, the news is so biased, it's hardly worth l...
[17:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:26] <exec> 08└─The Military plans for a lot of things that never happen but the plans are in place if they are needed.
[17:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:28] <exec> 08└─It's definition applies to basically every single government that has ever existed. My guess is that Dinesh D'Souza is correct [amazon.com]: The Academic left, having fled (literally) the horrors of its doctrine in Europe, has spent a great deal of time obfuscating what "fascism" means, moving it ca...
[17:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:30] <exec> 08└─Thumbs up or Thumbs un-up. It's double-plus ungood, comrade.
[17:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:32] <exec> 08└─The private sector, therefore, must do the dirty work of the government, because government propaganda is viewed with suspicion by the population. “Business and the private sector may not naturally understand the role they play in combating disinformation, but theirs is one of the most important...
[17:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:34] <exec> 08└─The powerful side which has totally engulfed the DNC and GOP. Got any more partisan hackery you'd like to spread this today?
[17:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:37] <exec> 08└─Which side are the fascists again?
[17:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:39] <exec> 08└─here's yet another collection of partial definitions for you, then. Eco explains that it is a vague term, that can be applied to a broad selection of different organizations. It is not meant to be a clear or self-consistent definition. Ur-Fascism, by Umberto Eco [nybooks.com]
[17:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:53] <exec> 08└─PS. Fuschia is a stupid name.
[17:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:54] <exec> 08└─You're just jealous because the EU sees monopoly abuse as a failure of a market that needs correcting, rather than as a success story to be celebrated and spread to other markets.
[17:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:20] <exec> 08└─The diesel boats emit some really nasty pollution at/below street level in a very dense and not always windy city. Everybody's taxes go to healthcare. The many boat owners (and those houseboats are really really expensive) are asked to stop causing their fellow citizens to get sicker, costing everyo...
[17:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:22] <exec> 08└─The smell is due to the fuel that is being used, if you were to run a Diesel engine on waste vegetable oil it would smell like a chip shop.
[17:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:55] <exec> 08└─Wing Commander Prophecy was really fun back in the day. The control scheme hasn't aged well, though. Then again, maybe I'm just too pampered from newer games that explain their control schemes.
[17:46:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 2037 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:06] <exec> 08└─Not really surprising, is it? All the Intel performance came from speculative execution - you were effectively following all paths after a decision and executing all the things you would do for both paths, but then just throwing away the "not used" result. That's been shown to be inherently flawed u...
[17:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:13] <exec> 08└─Literally, the only thing going for Intel in that list is Fast, because they certainly aren't cheap and their security was worse by design than AMD. I've been building my personal computers with AMD parts for a decade. All four of the machines I built are still functional, only thing that's gone out...
[17:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03doke [6955] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:15] <exec> 08└─Intel is using NDA embargoes to block third party reviews of their new chip until the 19th. However, they commissioned and published their own review. To no one's surprise, that review has been shown to be highly biased. In my opinion, these actions show Intel's ethics can't be trusted. https://www....
[17:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:18] <exec> 08└─Intel hasn't been trutworthy since 15+ years ago when they were...making offers OEMs couldn't refuse...not to use AMD products.
[17:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:41] <exec> 08└─I was waiting and waiting for an integration of Google Photos with Google+ . That never happened which indicates Google+ has been on death row for years.
[17:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Connect 3 Actual Human Brains (Then Make Them Play Tetris) - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:07] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah! We're monkeying the crap outta it!
[17:47:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 439 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:59] <exec> 08└─This seems like a stupid plan. So someone is going to pay either: The median in-network rate negotiated by health plans 125 percent of the average amount paid to similar providers in the same geographic area Am I the only one who can see several ways unscrupulous people are going to profit even mo...
[17:48:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:02] <exec> 08└─Why do you claim they have less right to to choose the direction of their supposedly democratic homeland than you do?
[17:48:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03crafoo [6639] 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 769 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:06] <exec> 08└─More than heavily-regulated, these industries are poorly-regulated. I think it's fine to heavily regulate an industry as long as it is warranted and the regulations are in the best interest of the population. Instead, I think these two industries regulations are riddled with weird loop-holes, money-...
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[17:48:48] <exec> 08└─What can happen (the "suprise billing" they mention) is thus: 1) Patient goes into Emergency Room and gets treatment. 2) The hospital has no contract with that particular insurance company. 3A) Insurance company has some requirement for payment of the patient's care the hospital did not comply with....
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[18:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:20] <exec> 08└─Pay now or pay later but we're going to pay. The problem with paying later is that there always seems to be interest tacked on. Probably very high interest in this case. Unfortunately money rules and short term planning has become the norm for many. As long as we make a buck today we'll worry abou...
[18:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:21] <exec> 08└─I hope this really is the final call. Everyone already knows about this climate theory of theirs. Regardless of whether it is correct they've presented no viable plan to do anything about it, but all the plans revolve around raisng taxes and giving the money to themselves and friends. So, regardless...
[18:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 1329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:44] <exec> 08└─First off, nice source. And interesting interpretation of a paper on combating disinformation (you know, the stuff every one was mad about with Russia and the election?) You can't have it both ways. Either you want governments and social media companies to combat this type of interference or you don...
[18:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:45] <exec> 08└─You have to recognize that what's bad either way is the idea of a government itself—the idea that society should be built atop this one, peculiar organization that takes resources at gunpoint against an individual's will. Put another way: This article only exists, because you're being forced to pa...
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[18:43:47] <exec> 08└─WSWS actually runs some pretty good original research. I've never seen anything like this from the news: https://www.wsws.org [wsws.org]
[18:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Barenflimski [6836] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:49] <exec> 08└─When I read this I don't see some evil plan to combine corporations and military. They already work in tandem, and have forever. I see the Military doing what it does. I then see it being bifurcated, and use as talking points for someone else's agenda to further polarize the electorate. As long as...
[18:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 2444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:52] <exec> 08└─The US military brass firmly believes that the reason they lost the Vietnam War was that they were "stabbed in the back" by the lefties at home. (Sound familiar? That's exactly what the Nazis claimed was the reason that Germany lost WWI.) They of course determined that they had to correct that probl...
[18:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:11] <exec> 08└─Google couldn't even spell Googol.
[18:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:12] <exec> 08└─So, 88%+ market share is considered "ended"?
[18:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:14] <exec> 08└─Android can be forked if Google gets too carried away. That way phone vendors don't have to completely start from scratch. However, I imagine Google may start using IBM/MS-style F.U.D. to keep their control over the OS.
[18:44:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 603 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:56] <exec> 08└─Ok, I can certainly see some problems from this kind of tech...but this seems like a really awful example. The only way they've got "minutes" to decide is if the announcement is made in a live broadcast. So supposing some idiot on the web gets their hands on this tech, they've still gotta fake a liv...
[18:44:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 96 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:59] <exec> 08└─The only way they've got "minutes" to decide is if the announcement is made in a live broadcast.
[18:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:15] <exec> 08└─> anyone who takes action based solely upon a video announcement is beyond foolish. Dumber than a flock of Palins.
[18:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:17] <exec> 08└─if somebody unearthed a video of Donald Trump actually taking orders from Vladimir Putin, it could be safely dismissed as "fake news" by those inclined to believe Donald Trump.
[18:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:34] <exec> 08└─FATALITY!!! Yeah....that's all I got...
[18:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:11] <exec> 08└─> Seat belts interfere with the ability to bang... No, they enable myriad new positions.
[18:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:13] <exec> 08└─Ahaha, you still drink?
[18:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:15] <exec> 08└─I don't see how a party bus with people walking around is any more safe than a limo. Any ground vehicle that allows passengers to move freely around inside them is going to be dangerous. Perhaps a limo can be safe-enough at 35mph city street level driving. Though even a speed limit following 35+35 m...
[18:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:17] <exec> 08└─Only if there were people riding on the roof and it had no doors.
[18:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:19] <exec> 08└─I don't see how a party bus with people walking around is any more safe than a limo. Any ground vehicle that allows passengers to move freely around inside them is going to be dangerous. Perhaps a limo can be safe-enough at 35mph city street level driving. Though even a speed limit following 35+35 m...
[18:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:50] <exec> 08└─I don't want hyper threading. I want more REAL cores.
[18:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Annual Price Tag for Non-Fatal Injuries in the US Tops $1.8 Trillion - 567 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:14] <exec> 08└─So no causal link that you know of? But even based on your data and assuming you are correct even without being able to show a causal link, I'll bet a 50% savings would still make a lot of people very happy. Note in the graph in your link how far out of line the U.S. is with the rest of the world (o...
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[19:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:14] <exec> 08└─Our funding is running out, let's see if we can get some panic back in the headlines /sarc Seriously, climate science is in such a pathetic state that it's impossible to take it seriously. Lost date, secret algorithms. Poorly positioned stations, unexplainable corrections. With all the hype, the num...
[19:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:15] <exec> 08└─Build solar, nuke and wind plants. How's that for a plan?
[19:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:18] <exec> 08└─The final final call, so soon after the last one [soylentnews.org] too! Are we green or are we being duped :P
[19:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:20] <exec> 08└─It's better to burn through those fossil fuels now, because not only does that raise people out of poverty, but it literally gives us the energy to pursue better energy technologies and conservation/reclamation methods. Also, science isn't a democracy. Consensus has nothing to do with science, espec...
[19:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:22] <exec> 08└─So if climate change results in mass starvation or displacement you'll be the first to offer your home and provisions right? I mean really, we want to hold our politicians accountable but how about the hordes of idiots that promote such politicians? That give the stupidity legitimacy through the oft...
[19:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:24] <exec> 08└─People would/are already building them when it makes sense, unless prevented by the same organizations behind these calls. Who do you think is against decentralized electricity generation?
[19:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:27] <exec> 08└─Yea, if the climate ever changes in a way that makes things worse for someone itll be bradley13's fault...
[19:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:29] <exec> 08└─How do you trust a field that can't see the obvious staring them right in the face? They are acolytes of the Prince of the Power of the Air. For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie. ipfs.io [ipfs.io]
[19:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:31] <exec> 08└─Yes it will be. At least he'll share the blame with millions of other morons, but yes. Why have we had so little action? Because a good portion of the population bought the propaganda from the oil companies, and even now after those same companies admitted to lying about climate change we STILL have...
[19:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:33] <exec> 08└─Climate change concern has no necessary relation to a sustainable energy future. In fact, you would be best off dropping the climate change angle altogether if that is your true concern, since it only confuses/obfuscates the actual issue.
[19:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 713 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:35] <exec> 08└─I shoulda been more careful about clicking that link. Don't get too crazy, there isn't much point in debating whether we live in a simulation or not. What does that change about your daily life? If everything is an illusion except you then that is a recipe for sociopath/psycho behavior. If everythin...
[19:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:38] <exec> 08└─"We don't wanna, we like things the way they are, and you can't make us do anything about this problem." I mean, there's layers of rationalizations on top of that, but that's the gist of the response. And yes, I include the people who are in denial about the problem: The fact that they keep on getti...
[19:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:40] <exec> 08└─It's better to burn through those fossil fuels now, because not only does that raise people out of poverty, but it literally gives us the energy to pursue better energy technologies and conservation/reclamation methods. Also, science isn't a democracy. Consensus has nothing to do with science, espec...
[19:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:42] <exec> 08└─There is no simulation. But atheists are more amenable to evidence suggesting there is a simulation, than the actual reality behind it. And once you see the evidence, you can not un-see it.
[19:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:44] <exec> 08└─Its the opposite, the closer you look the more nonsensical the entire thing appears. Like the averaging of temperatures instead of energy, and worse, that goes on.
[19:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:46] <exec> 08└─We already have the technologies. You advocate burning through all the oil, gas, and coal? You shouldn't even be allowed to use the word "science". Go circle jerk with the other consensus-loving sheeple who think they are oh-so-insightful but are really oh-so-brainwashed.
[19:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:48] <exec> 08└─If you've got a viable alternative, then what are you waiting for??? Go deploy it! If it's viable, then it'll work—that's what "viable" means. Subsidizing an alternative doesn't count, because it hides the true costs (and, yes, I realize that fossil fuels are subsidized, too). The only way we can...
[19:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:51] <exec> 08└─No, the actual issue is that our current methods of power generation are destabilizing the global climate much quicker than the natural oscillations that occur. Just because you are a cynical fool who has bought into the "liberal climate change conspiracy" does not make it less valid a reason to red...
[19:44:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 152 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:01] <exec> 08└─There it is folks. The merger of state and corporate power. Staring you in the face. Ain't no one got any excuse now for saying it's not happening here.
[19:44:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 2444 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:17] <exec> 08└─The US military brass firmly believes that the reason they lost the Vietnam War was that they were "stabbed in the back" by the lefties at home. (Sound familiar? That's exactly what the Nazis claimed was the reason that Germany lost WWI.) They of course determined that they had to correct that probl...
[19:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:19] <exec> 08└─The final say: Idiots should not comment on topics they do not understand Addendum: Anarchy is stoopid mmkay?
[19:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:21] <exec> 08└─They don't have these kinds of problems (or discussions) in dictatorial regimes. I'm just sayin'
[19:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:23] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the rundown. As much as I dislike Violently Imposed Monopoly guy and the ideological naivete there is something to be said for reducing the hierarchical command structure that humanity has grown so comfortable with. It is pretty basic human nature, people look for leaders. However, as wit...
[19:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:25] <exec> 08└─I agree with you there--the comments at the end are the most interesting part of a story, now. A decent moderation system like SN has helps boost the signal to noise ratio. It has been glaring, too, how many "news" sites have eliminated comments sections entirely. They don't want to be challenged b...
[19:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:27] <exec> 08└─Can we having an educated populace that can find the truth themselves, instead of needing it spoon fed to them by anyone?
[19:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:29] <exec> 08└─This proposal is un-American. It's a clone of what the Chinese are implementing. Dissent is at the heart of discourse in a democracy. Dialogue instead of monologue is the hallmark of the Information Age. Shutting down conversation because the powers-that-be don't like what the rabble are saying exem...
[19:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:32] <exec> 08└─Not really. As a whole we tend to suck at it due to our internal biases. Just look at the anti-vax movement (which is a textbook example of what the paper is in this article is actually talking about). Hell look at the reactions to this post from a bunch of people who didn't read the paper but accep...
[19:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:34] <exec> 08└─Power.
[19:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:51] <exec> 08└─The Limo company is owned by a criminal Pakistani who was apparently set up in this business as an FBI informant. It turns out that his vehicles aren't road worthy and his drivers aren't trained or licensed. What culpability does the FBI have, for creating this situation?
[19:46:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:53] <exec> 08└─That's a very interesting point. Though in the article's case, it was a limo in a severe state of disrepair hitting a parked car and pedestrians. I expect a party bus in a similar state of disrepair would be just as dangerous. A 20 passenger bus would be closer to 10,000 lbs. Though I think the real...
[19:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Announces a Smart Voice-Controlled Display - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:18] <exec> 08└─Or we could ask for companies in the future to develop products driven or augmented with technology without Big Brother spying on us and reporting back to mama everywhere we are and everything we do and not sell that information. We have the right to force companies to respect our privacy, so you're...
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[20:43:11] <exec> 08└─Appeal court judges ruled that the severity and scope of the climate crisis demanded greenhouse gas reductions of at least 25% by 2020 [...] Countries have an obligation to protect their citizens against climate change. [...] One of two newly opened coal plants would have to be shut down to comply w...
[20:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:42] <exec> 08└─..... you clearly need to go back to school instead of parroting talking points you heard from someone you think is smart all the anti-climate change stuff I've ever seen has a lot of almost credible sounding science stuff, but science bullshit is the easiest kind of bullshit to make up as you can s...
[20:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:43] <exec> 08└─Here is what was written: All I'm asking for is that he put his money where his mouth is. If he isn't willing to take that chance then why not promote a more sustainable energy future? Why continue obfuscating the problem and preventing people from galvanizing on the topic?
[20:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:45] <exec> 08└─That is beyond stupid as usual vim guy. The market will decide that all the infrastructure is too costly to replace or remove so the ststus quo will co tinue as that macimizes profits while minimizing costs. Future consequences are not even considered. History shows that i am right and you are a del...
[20:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:47] <exec> 08└─Meh. My guess is that the nukes will fly in the next 10-20 years. On the bright side, if there's a nuclear winter (another "controversy" that's controversial only for certain people who really really really want the USA to blow its nuclear wad and don't give a shit what the consequences are so want...
[20:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:50] <exec> 08└─Who's building nuclear plants other than China? Last I heard, everyone else was shutting theirs down. US standard quality of life is 250kwh/person/day. Increasing the number of nuclear plants in the US by 10x would deliver this much energy.
[20:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:52] <exec> 08└─No it won't. Everybody knows it'll be janrinok's fault!
[20:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 2122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:54] <exec> 08└─I'm conflicted as to who to actually believe with regards to the "Global Warming" / Climate Change problem. I'm not conflicted when it comes to the environment. What if, the whole business of Global Warming amounts to not a big deal? All you're pushing for is people believe that the world is going t...
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[20:43:56] <exec> 08└─Lets say you have a certain amount of energy radiating from a surface. To convert to a temperature you use the stefan-boltzmann law[1], which I'll simplify to just being a fourth-root transformation for demonstration purposes: Which of these is the correct temperature to use? a = c(10, 100, 1000) #...
[20:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:58] <exec> 08└─India, Russia ink action plan to set up 6 more nuclear reactors in India [indiatimes.com] India nearing completion of 500 MW commercial fast breeder reactor [nextbigfuture.com] Japan Court Allows Nuclear Reactor to Reopen in Boost to Abe’s Energy Push [bloomberg.com] A Japanese court paved the way...
[20:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:00] <exec> 08└─To continue from my comment yesterday. [soylentnews.org] Let's not shoot the messengers. We have the AGW crowd solution [twitter.com] and the capitalist solution. [nature.com] One of these is possible without tyranny, which would you prefer?
[20:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 1028 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:03] <exec> 08└─I for one would welcome a nuclear plant in my back yard, unfortunately my backwards state (Oregon) is completely uninterested in a real solution to the issue because of the NIMBYs. I think it would be wise for the species to draw down use of fossil fuels and transition to newer forms of power genera...
[20:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:05] <exec> 08└─When the people telling me to change my way of life give up meat, cars, air conditioning, almonds, heaters, private jets, etc then I will consider making the change. Those in power that are legitimately concerned need to walk the talk.
[20:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 1137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:07] <exec> 08└─Might not the issue be that they have been preaching the same doom and gloom scenarios now for about four or five decades. It's bordering (or already crossed over into) becoming a cry wolf scenario (even tho it might not be false) and normal people (or the "idiots") have pretty much stopped paying a...
[20:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:09] <exec> 08└─"We don't wanna, we like things the way they are, and you can't make us do anything about this problem."
[20:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:42] <exec> 08└─There is always a balance that must be made between individual and group control. Dictstors are the worst of both, individuals wielding total group control. Stateless society is stupid because then one group can go rogue and take over the planet with a butter knife.
[20:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:43] <exec> 08└─They don't want their glaring omissions or mistakes called out. They don't want to engage with the world because it's harder to have a conversation than to deliver a soliloquy.
[20:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:05] <exec> 08└─They already do have control over forking... The Google Play Store. It only exists on open source Android forks to basically allow google to add its tracking powers to those people. However, it is powerful because anyone that has bought multiple programs from google already do not need to but them a...
[20:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:06] <exec> 08└─Wall off the cellular phome/modem if you must, but I want root install/boot control over ALL the rest, dammit!
[20:45:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 604 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:57] <exec> 08└─It sure is handy to have all physical evidence removed from consideration, eh? That way, you can turn all legal and political contests into contests of credibility and personal belief. So, to use a completely random example, if there's a video of a cop shooting a civilian in the back, the defense ca...
[20:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:06] <exec> 08└─So in other words, they don't comply with the GDPR. Best viewed with a pi-hole.
[20:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 1173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:56] <exec> 08└─That's because your physicians are still honest, mostly. Find me anyone, anywhere who will rightfully and honestly tell you what the bill to fix your car will be beforehand. Or your washing machine. The best you will hope for is someone to tell you, "Well, if it is *X*, and *X* only, and there are n...
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[21:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:42] <exec> 08└─My my how the brain can pretzel itself into any form necessary to preserve its own bullshit. For some straaange reason I just can't imagine the country shutting off power plants with no alternatives ready whatsoever.
[21:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:43] <exec> 08└─For some straaange reason I just can't imagine the country shutting off power plants with no alternatives ready whatsoever.
[21:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:45] <exec> 08└─Van der Zanden added that a 25% emissions cut by 2020 was “feasible” and said that the Dutch environmental assessment agency would deliver an update on the outlook for doing so next spring.
[21:43:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03black6host [3827] 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 339 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:55] <exec> 08└─Pay now or pay later but we're going to pay. The problem with paying later is that there always seems to be interest tacked on. Probably very high interest in this case. Unfortunately money rules and short term planning has become the norm for many. As long as we make a buck today we'll worry abou...
[21:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03CZB [6457] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:30] <exec> 08└─Correct me if I'm wrong, but, It seems like the main source of human co2 emissions is burning fossil fuel, and the best alternative is small scalable nuke plants. For absorbing co2, the best method so far is growing plants. As a farmer I know that all agricultural and forest land use decisions are s...
[21:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:31] <exec> 08└─Notice how most of the Canadians are huddled against the US border trying to stay warm? Secretly, the Canadians are hoping for a lot more than 1.5C. They want at least 15C. Imagine if the temperature band from Cuba to Ohio were centered on Canada. The place might be habitable!
[21:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, it is up to the idiots to figure out. A climate scientist is no more qualified to dictate economic policy than an economist is qualified to pass judgement on a climate science. Nor are they in a position TO dictate policy because they arn't privy to all the possible variables that a politician...
[21:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:36] <exec> 08└─Or instead of passing the buck along you can make whatever incremental changes you are OK with. Maybe eat a little less meat? Have one day a week meat-free? Try to drive less and carpool more? Plan your activities to reduce last-minute drives to the store? Upgrade to more efficient appliances and ve...
[21:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:38] <exec> 08└─The problem is that the people in charge of the decisions are the ones who know they have the power/money/ability to avoid the problem. China is trying to de-smog because it's hard to breathe in Beijing, where the power-that-be live. But when you talk about sea rising by meters, and droughts, to peo...
[21:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:40] <exec> 08└─Oh fuck off already. Just admit that you will NEVER accept climate research because you have some kind of perverse emotional investment in the status quo and are unwilling to accept that you might possibly be responsible, even indirectly, to the fact that in less than a century the world as we know...
[21:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:42] <exec> 08└─People respond better to positive incentives (profit motive) than they do to possible bad things (fear motive).
[21:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:44] <exec> 08└─Those in power that are legitimately concerned need to walk the talk.
[21:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:47] <exec> 08└─Only now that climate change is undeniable
[21:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:49] <exec> 08└─I grew up with liberal parents in a very liberal area and the late teen and early adult years were rough ideologically because I still had to learn how shitty the world was, how many bad things are done by the government. I always figured the government was too big to get away with the horrors that...
[21:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:51] <exec> 08└─Actually if they eat almost only meat but cut out grains and sugar many people will eat a lot less (fewer hunger cravings). If you want people to stop overeating the best way (for many) involves a high percentage of meat in the diet. So, I don't know how it would work out but your plan of cutting ou...
[21:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:53] <exec> 08└─the majority of counter arguments are no longer "climate change isn't real!"
[21:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:55] <exec> 08└─No. It's largely because extremely wealthy interests have an interest in propagandising against the climate science and have been very successful. They have also used their money to dictate US energy policies. This piece lays it out pretty clearly. [newyorker.com] When your big political donors tel...
[21:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:57] <exec> 08└─Ugh, you're spewing right-wing propaganda points. So basically stop trying to make a positive change for humanity because there may be a 5% chance that human society won't collapse under the current weight? Let's see, what would happen you want to know? Well for starters we would stop pumping poison...
[21:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:00] <exec> 08└─But atheists are more amenable to evidence suggesting there is a simulation
[21:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 1683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:02] <exec> 08└─That's a good start. Some other things that should be on the list: 1. Bring building insulation up to modern standards more universally. Even if you think AGW is complete nonsense, this is a worthwhile spend for building owners this applies to, for the simple reason that it will cut utility bills an...
[21:45:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 124 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:20] <exec> 08└─The powerful side which has totally engulfed the DNC and GOP. Got any more partisan hackery you'd like to spread this today?
[21:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 1309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:39] <exec> 08└─Not in a society where every child spends their entire childhood being conditioned to sit still and memorize facts from authority, and questioning of the presented facts is punished. This is modern education. And by now, almost the entire population has been raised that way. Since they have been tra...
[21:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:41] <exec> 08└─Thank you for putting the effort into this post. It is already modded +5 but in my view ought to be modded +6. As you noted, the US military learned an awful lot of lessons from Vietnam, one of which may have been that there's no need to win a war, the population just needs to accept the need to k...
[21:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:03] <exec> 08└─If you count what most people actually use, which includes smartphones, tablets, and netbooks
[21:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:30] <exec> 08└─... you would find half way through the recoup that you need to re-buy a new set of batteries, pushing your recoup forward by another 12 years or so
[21:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:32] <exec> 08└─The article you linked to and the way you linked it seems quite pessimistic,. An electric bus powered by a diesel generator. Not sure if you actually read all of the article though: A Welsh Government spokeswoman said: "The diesel generator is not a permanent fixture and is used solely for the trial...
[21:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:09] <exec> 08└─Thankfully, Palin, GWB, Carrot Top, Slick Willie, Ronnie and the rest of them weren't as completely in control as they are portrayed to be in movies. At least that's what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.
[21:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hai [1725] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:48:11] <exec> 08└─Bringing new meaning to safe sex.
[21:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Announces 9th Generation Desktop Processors, Including a Mainstream 8-Core CPU - 2082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:48:45] <exec> 08└─Most phones have different cores for different purposes. For example, 4 performance cores and 4 lower power cores. Or 2 performance cores, 2-4 regular cores, and 4 lower power cores. DynamIQ is the successor to big.LITTLE [wikipedia.org] and can allow weirder configurations [anandtech.com]: Another...
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[21:48:46] <exec> 08└─A good read: https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[21:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google+ Shut Down After Data Breach and Cover-Up are Exposed - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:10] <exec> 08└─But the corresponding success is that the EU will not have any budget deficit in the foreseable future.
[21:51:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 1013 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:17] <exec> 08└─You can pay that correct rate if the physician has a cash-discount rate. In theory that cash discount rate still cannot be lower than the highest amount that any insurance contract will reimburse. If the insurance company finds out that a provider is in fact regularly taking less money from a cash-p...
[21:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Bipartisan Plan to End Surprise Emergency Room Bills, Explained - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:18] <exec> 08└─The way you could do that is to compare prices in aggregate before the emergency, and then use the ER that worked best for you in terms of price/location. However, since no one will give prices, you are left with picking the closest one because they like to not give you actual choices.
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[22:43:33] <exec> 08└─... and your brain softens enough that you'll believe in AGW.
[22:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:34] <exec> 08└─The problem is that a handful of small "advanced" countries like the Netherlands or New Zealand make life exceptionally expensive for their own citizens by having all sorts of eco-taxes in place. Meanwhile, 96% of the world does not give a fig and continue trying to "develop" from their 3rd world ex...
[22:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:36] <exec> 08└─Bingo; they will (through intermediaries to make it politically correct) buy from Russia.
[22:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:39] <exec> 08└─Ah yes, the "Al Gore does it, so it must be OK" defense. I'll freely admit the dude is a bit hypocritical, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about global climate change. Well, I'm going to suggest you change your way of life a bit, and I don't generally eat meat, don't use AC, have never owned a priv...
[22:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:40] <exec> 08└─there's no indication at all that a system able to support such a simulation is practical, not only using any technology we have, but also any technology we can extrapolate to, no matter how far we go ahead using what we know.
[22:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:42] <exec> 08└─According to the nutjobs round here they are already being bombarded with all the variables politicians deal with, AKA money!
[22:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:44] <exec> 08└─BZZZZT WRONG You can achieve the same thing with plant proteins. No one should substitute their meat protein for carbs. Here, get informed https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[22:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:47] <exec> 08└─People are terrible at assessing risk, and hate any kind of change. For a long time most people refused to wear seatbelts because... it's a little uncomfortable? It took explicit laws and decades of graphic TV advertisements to hammer it through to people that when shit gets fucked, seat belts can p...
[22:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:49] <exec> 08└─That is because you are easily wowed and have zero concept about the limitations behind *our* video games. To simulate a universe where the people inside can verify "physical reality" with a variety of experiments would be insanely hard. It goes way beyond just simulating reality at the Large Hadron...
[22:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:51] <exec> 08└─The climate scientists aren't qualified to dictate economic or public policy. They'll just tell you to get ready to multiply most of your spreadsheet's variables by (current_temperature +3C)/current_temperature.
[22:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:53] <exec> 08└─Wow, you are not just an ancap nutter but truly a fucking moron. Your "capitalist solution" is a plan that has no market for the extracted carbon and thus relies on government subsidies to exist. Environmental protection has always been costly, Capitalism by definition is not even interested in it....
[22:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:55] <exec> 08└─I was looking at this table a few days ago [world-nuclear.org]; can anyone provide corroboration on it? I can't tell how reputable the website is.
[22:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:57] <exec> 08└─And enough land will be freed from permafrost that you can house all the displaced people from the equator ;)
[22:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:00] <exec> 08└─In retrospect, it would seem like this information would be really difficult to falsify. Still, who knows how far fake news can go. Maybe they're actually coal plants or stage sets deepfaked as nuclear plants -- or maybe they just deepfaked the inspectors.
[22:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:02] <exec> 08└─Ok, let's take this seriously. Stop ALL rocket launches, ALL commercial flights, and remove ALL i-c-e's over 3.0L from the roads. Sorry Bubba, no more v8 5.7L trucks. No more AMG 6.3L Mercs, no more Dodge Vipers, no F1 or F-anything racing. In terms of trade and services, what stops, stops. Tough. W...
[22:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:04] <exec> 08└─One side effect of global warming I find almost no one considering is that grain belts are going to move rather far north. Siberia may become the world's breadbasket. What country "owns" Siberia? Russia. If the prospect of the Midwest becoming a desert and Russia essentially controlling the world's...
[22:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 853 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:42] <exec> 08└─The problem with guys like Mr. Vim is they have a small kernel of truth, but they surround it by a giant, rancid overripe avocado of bullshit, much of which is contradictory to the truth they insist they are working to preserve and promote. This is something I've noticed with the right-wingers I've...
[22:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:44] <exec> 08└─It's a clone of what the Chinese are implementing.
[22:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:35] <exec> 08└─So a boat. That sits in water. Running entirely on electric. With lithium batteries. There's... something... I don't know... call me crazy... unfortunate about that? Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of electricity on big boats. I'm just not sure I want to be near one when it hits something,...
[22:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06As Fake Videos Become More Realistic, Seeing Shouldn't Always be Believing - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:10] <exec> 08└─About as useful as a face on a bot? ;-)
[22:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Limousine Crash in New York was the Deadliest U.S. Transportation Accident in 9 Years - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:13] <exec> 08└─None. Sovereign immunity.
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[23:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Buys ABQ Studios in Albuquerque, New Mexico - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:21] <exec> 08└─Hollywood (in the wider sense of the term) is really good at getting taxpayers to fund their business for them. I'm sure the state of New Mexico and the city of Albuquerque will provide huge piles of taxpayers cash to these guys, then when everyone gets sick of paying, and nobody can provide any ev...
[23:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Buys ABQ Studios in Albuquerque, New Mexico - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:23] <exec> 08└─s/Hollywood/Corporate_America
[23:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Buys ABQ Studios in Albuquerque, New Mexico - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:25] <exec> 08└─To be fair, it's not just corporate America, because it happens here too. Every time it stops raining for more than a few weeks (like, you know in the summer) the farmers all start squealing that they're going to go out of business if they don't get "help" from the government. It seems to me that...
[23:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Buys ABQ Studios in Albuquerque, New Mexico - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:27] <exec> 08└─New Mexico does offer a limited number of filming incentives, which generate a substantial return on investment. I haven't heard any mention of Netflix getting any special treatment though, and I suspect it would face an uphill battle since our current Governor has shown herself to be quite hostile...
[23:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:41] <exec> 08└─It is perfectly fair up to the point where quality of life conditions between so called developed and developing countries switch. Than there will be a WWIII where new winners come up. Regardless, they are not going to be Dutch; forgetaboutit.
[23:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:42] <exec> 08└─> For some straaange reason I just can't imagine the country shutting off power plants with no alternatives ready whatsoever. Well, the Japanese learnt to waste a bit less, and it mostly worked. The Germans barely had more time, yet they did. But it's either gonna be open season for building windmil...
[23:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:44] <exec> 08└─The government plans to deliver a report on what to do by next spring. So they will have at most 10 months
[23:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:46] <exec> 08└─If only the Netherlands were near a large body of water where wind powered turbines could be sited ....
[23:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netherlands ordered to increase greenhouse emissions cuts - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:49] <exec> 08└─Which means what? All I did is read TFA, in there they say according to the ruling they need to do this by 2020.
[23:44:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 505 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:45] <exec> 08└─No. It's largely because extremely wealthy interests have an interest in propagandising against the climate science and have been very successful. They have also used their money to dictate US energy policies. This piece lays it out pretty clearly. [newyorker.com] When your big political donors tel...
[23:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:02] <exec> 08└─It's better to burn through those fossil fuels now, because not only does that raise people out of poverty, but it literally gives us the energy to pursue better energy technologies and conservation/reclamation methods. Also, science isn't a democracy. Consensus has nothing to do with science, espec...
[23:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:04] <exec> 08└─If you've got a viable alternative, then what are you waiting for??? Go deploy it! If it's viable, then it'll work—that's what "viable" means. Subsidizing an alternative doesn't count, because it hides the true costs (and, yes, I realize that fossil fuels are subsidized, too). The only way we can...
[23:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:06] <exec> 08└─It is probably possible, but a vegan-low carb diet sounds really annoying. How are you going to eat a vegetarian diet with under 50 carbs per day?
[23:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:08] <exec> 08└─The Canadians know where all the hot air in coming from.
[23:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:10] <exec> 08└─One side effect of global warming I find almost no one considering is that grain belts are going to move rather far north.
[23:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Climate Report: Scientists Politely Urge 'Act Now, Idiots' - 1566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:13] <exec> 08└─1 and 3 imply you know more about the economics of retrofitting an existing building than the owners with actual money on the table instead of bullshitting. If you were only bullshitting it wouldn't matter but people like you tend to want laws to make other people be as smart as you when your genius...
[23:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The US Military's Vision for State Censorship - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:53] <exec> 08└─You seem to think the concept of a "stateless society" implies no weapons (or butter-proof vests, for that matter) exist. Even if that were somehow true, I don't think I'm unique in having a number of agricultural tools in the shed that easily trump your butter-knife.
[23:46:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 126 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:07] <exec> 08└─We call it Fucksya, Google will just call it Chrome or Android. All they need to do is make it compatible with what they have.
[23:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Now Is the Time to Start Planning for the Post-Android World - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:17] <exec> 08└─Apart from a Federal Government department back in the 1990's, I have yet to see any company in Australia running anything but Windows and MS Office on desktops. Servers are Microsoft of some sort, or, rarely, some places have Cisco stuff running. Microsoft isn't going away any time soon. As for pho...
[23:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Amsterdam's Canal Boats Are Going Electric - at a Cost - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:49] <exec> 08└─And this is different from a boat-load of diesel or bunker fuel exactly how? Think, man! Think!
[23:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ice Spikes Could Complicate Europa Landings - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:42] <exec> 08└─Why assume it would be heavy?
[23:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:50:16] <exec> 08└─See honey, its those damn scientists! That's why I'm failing all those paternity tests!
[23:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create Immature Human Eggs Out of Blood Cells - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:50:18] <exec> 08└─http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sperm+donor+paternity+case [lmgtfy.com]
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