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[00:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:30] <exec> 08└─I've been at a few companies where the existing or prior programmer was creating a combinatorial explosion of search screens and reports. Some factoring and query-by-example interfaces simplified much of that. It freed me up to work on other projects.
[00:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:32] <exec> 08└─This sounds like an extreme example of all those "promise of automation" stories, that people work less at the same productivity levels. But once it's actually done and put in place, a lot of people don't like it. What's going wrong here?
[00:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:47] <exec> 08└─Plus, if Pluto is planet nine, then planet X becomes planet (Roman numeral) X....more ... um....poetic?
[00:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:49] <exec> 08└─Nope. If you count Pluto, you have to count Ceres at #5, which makes Pluto at #10, Haumea #11, Makemake #12 and Eris #13... ... Unless you also count Orcus at #10, which means Pluto does go to #11. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[00:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:51] <exec> 08└─I think you meant Eris [wikipedia.org].
[00:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:53] <exec> 08└─I thought Sheppard was off in Atlantis.
[00:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:56] <exec> 08└─All we need to do is send Duck Dodgers [vimeo.com] and hope he gets there before Marvin the Martian.
[00:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:58] <exec> 08└─I thought Atlantis was parked outside San Francisco.
[00:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03EventH0rizon [936] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Inside Information - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:22] <exec> 08└─I loved it. And I agree, too few web sites are this uncluttered.
[00:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Inside Information - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:24] <exec> 08└─I had to click the things on the right side to see what they did. I guess tooltips are in the way out, because they have text (just like text buttons would... oh, wait, they know those... or maybe they forgot to remove the text in the left side ones). We are "evolving" towards logograms for everyone...
[00:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:07] <exec> 08└─You don't have to Crispr these to get a more commercial-able fruit. Selective breeding can do it; it just takes longer.
[00:45:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The Trump Administration is Suing California to Quash its New Net Neutrality Law - 193 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:45] <exec> 08└─What's that you say? The telecommunications industry isn't in a "Free" market, so it needs to be regulated by government? That just means you think we need government to save us from government
[00:45:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06The Trump Administration is Suing California to Quash its New Net Neutrality Law - 201 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:48] <exec> 08└─Net neutrality isn't about traffic shaping based on application, it's about traffic shaping based on who sends/receives the traffic. Prioritizing video packets is fine. Prioritizing GAFA packets isn't.
[00:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:49:21] <exec> 08└─When AM talk radio drifted conservative, partly due to right-leaning oligopolies forming, Republicans did away with FCC "fairness" rules, saying that "regulation of speech bad". Now many Republicans want similar regulation BACK for Internet companies. I see political hypocrisy.
[00:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Disks of Gas and Dust That Supposedly Form Planets Don’t Seem to Have the Goods - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:49:41] <exec> 08└─I really never thought I would see The Electric Universe cited unironically on Soylent News. Please log in so that I know who I'm laughing at. Unless of course it's some sort of joke which went right over my head, in which case well played sir.
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[01:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:24] <exec> 08└─Easy, when automation increases productivity, it ends meaning the same people do more for the same money. In some cases, it means less people too if so much output is unneeded. Any productivity bonus is hoarded by "others", not by the workers in the way of time (maybe contracting more people to comp...
[01:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:25] <exec> 08└─I'm a manager. I manage a team of 5 support engineer. When I joined my company, the team - that was already there - was overworked, and among other things, I was hired to prioritize emergencies, deal with angry customers and try to streamline the support process. I was also hired to produce KPIs eve...
[01:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:28] <exec> 08└─I automate processes, then ask for more to do...like a sucker.
[01:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:30] <exec> 08└─My job was secure for a good 15-20 years after I retired. I retired because management decided the 50 hour workweek was the norm, and I got tired of working 10-20 hours a week overtime and not getting paid for it.
[01:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:32] <exec> 08└─If you're going to automate your workload, put the extra effort in to make sure you don't get busted doing so. Don't write a script that does a month's work in ten minutes, write one with some sleeps in it that spreads the work out over the first 3/4 of every work day over the entire month. If you'r...
[01:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:34] <exec> 08└─> I automate processes, then ask for more to do...like a sucker. I suggest you make just one change in this behavioral pattern. When you ask for more to do, also ask for a bonus or raise or other perk. Then you might not have to feel like a sucker.
[01:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:36] <exec> 08└─I see a lot of inefficiencies similar to this that I complain about, but the complaints are ignored despite giving lots of details and anecdotes. I don't rank high enough and/or don't have enough connections. I'm not management-level. I don't mean to demean your profession, but general management do...
[01:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:39] <exec> 08└─I thought you were a boss now, what is your response if one of your workers is padding their time like this?
[01:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:41] <exec> 08└─Poor automation is often worse than manual processes. Automation itself won't necessarily make an organization more efficient, it has to be done well. And doing it well is not easy, because there are usually a lot of stakeholders and office politics involved. The social side is often harder than the...
[01:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:43] <exec> 08└─Rule #1: Don't get caught. Rule #2: Don't get caught. ...
[01:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:45] <exec> 08└─Then you are to code yourself out of a job. Only THEN have you done your job right! I worked at one place that they paid me to STOP coding. and improving the system for 2yr. They were trying to release the product on a new platform and the 12 coder/designerss and 10 QA staff, could not keep up with...
[01:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 896 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:47] <exec> 08└─If the job involves primarily working on non-value adding stuff, then it's ripe for automation and eventually, outsourcing or disappearance. The point of this is that you should automate to do other, value-adding activities. Of course there are many scenarios where you cannot (management won't let y...
[01:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:50] <exec> 08└─I see a lot of inefficiencies similar to this that I complain about, but the complaints are ignored despite giving lots of details and anecdotes. I don't rank high enough and/or don't have enough connections. I'm not management-level. I don't mean to demean your profession, but general management do...
[01:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:52] <exec> 08└─We do math modeling of a physical process that is very complex at a detail level. Because it is used as part of a larger optimization scheme (thousands or millions of "what if" tries), it also has to run fairly fast. Years ago the modeling approach was very simple--in the 1960s it might be small int...
[01:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:54] <exec> 08└─> Rule #1: Don't get caught. same AC here, I did posit that they were working for Buzzy and we know that he's smart enough to catch anyone trying tricks like this. Maybe you meant to say, Rule #1, don't work for Buzzy (or any perceptive boss)?
[01:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:14] <exec> 08└─All we're missing is rule 34!
[01:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:45:24] <exec> 08└─Including many "farmers markets" sellers who source most of the stuff they sell from big distributors 2nds, the stuff not pretty enough to go to major markets.
[01:49:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:40] <exec> 08└─It's his day off......
[01:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:41] <exec> 08└─The 1917 ruling held that "defendants who distributed fliers to draft-age men, urging resistance to induction, could be convicted of an attempt to obstruct the draft, a criminal offense." [wikipedia.org] (quoted from Wikipedia, not from the ruling). What does that have to do with the Espionage Act s...
[01:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:43] <exec> 08└─Far more people read the daily stormer than read many legacy newspapers
[01:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:46] <exec> 08└─people banned from social media GP said "Google." I don't think he was talking about Google Plus. I think he meant Google News and Google search.
[01:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Marvel Rising: Secret Warriors Tackles Diversity Without Breaking a Sweat - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:53:53] <exec> 08└─Captain Marvel was born a male, in 1968, called Mar-Vell. However, he had fully transitioned to being female by 1982, adopting the moniker Monica Rambeau. Hisherits preferred pronouns are unknown. " rel="url2html-7784">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_%28Marvel_Comics%29
[01:57:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Releases Crown Jewels — From 1982! - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:57:11] <exec> 08└─Force WinME to boot to its hidden underlying DOS: http://www.oocities.org [oocities.org] This is the same one I applied to my setup. Use at your own risk. Here's a different method and utility to achieve the same thing; I haven't tried this one. https://web.archive.org
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[02:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:46] <exec> 08└─The median lethal dose (LD50) of ricin is around 22 micrograms per kilogram of body weight if the exposure is from injection or inhalation (1.78 milligrams for an average adult).
[02:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:47] <exec> 08└─One was sent to President Trump. I'm truly sick of the violence and hatred from the left. They are very lucky that the right is more restrained, because the right is far better armed. The right is even physically stronger; actual measured strength is associated with right-thinking views.
[02:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:49] <exec> 08└─What makes an envelope "suspicious"? Was the return address something like "Mohammed Mohammed Mohmmed, 123 ISIS lane, Teheran Iran"? Was there white powder dribbling out of the corners? (Hell, I don't even know what ricin looks like, but "white powder" seems to be suspicious in all circumstances, ri...
[02:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:51] <exec> 08└─Apparently, the sort of person who sends ricin to politicians tends to be very incompetent at the act of sending mail. The US Postal Service has a poster [usps.com] that's been kicking around since the anthrax thing. It might have been a package that looked fucked up, had a weird/wrong address/label...
[02:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:54] <exec> 08└─What makes you think it wasn't the right? Trump keeps making enemies on both sides of the aisle.
[02:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:18] <exec> 08└─make sure you have a dummy program handy that makes it look like you're actually doing something
[02:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:20] <exec> 08└─No, that's the 0th rule of slacking off. It's implied by the other rules.
[02:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:43] <exec> 08└─Planet Nein?
[02:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 3032 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:55] <exec> 08└─I would say those deniers have been pilloried when they're clearly shills for corporations. Show me a true scientist performing real research (not junk science funded by Big Oil), that puts forth a valid argument, with data and reproducible results, and is PILLORIED, and I will agree that an injusti...
[02:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:56] <exec> 08└─If your chicken doesn't have flavor it's because you're cooking it wrong and probably using boneless/skinless white meat. I buy the cheap non-frozen value pack thighs and it tastes delicious. Heat an oven safe skillet on the stove-top while the oven is heating to 350F, sear the bottom of the chicken...
[02:48:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:27] <exec> 08└─Definitely citation needed. Abortion is aimed at blacks. Going back to the hag who got all that crap going, she hated blacks. It was her intention to eliminate society's "weeds" - the undesirables. We've forgotten all about her racist views and agenda though. https://www.lifenews.com
[02:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:28] <exec> 08└─Popovers? My Palemoon didn't do that. If you've gone to the bother of installing Palemoon, but you've never configured it, or installed any addons, I wonder why you bothered with Palemoon. I don't see advertising, popups, popunders, popovers, or anything of the sort. I have one instance of Chromium,...
[02:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:31] <exec> 08└─From that page: In a 1947 interview that surfaced via the British Pathe, Sanger described her desire for women in the developed world to cease completely from reproduction. When asked by the reporter whether this would be impractical to ask women who desire children, but would no longer be able to c...
[02:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:33] <exec> 08└─That last line assumes that funds for maintenance didn't merely walk with Jesus.
[02:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:35] <exec> 08└─1947 is 8 years later than 1939. One might deduce that Sanger had somewhat cleaned up her act, and was less blatantly racist by that time. Someone sat her down, and explained, "Margaret, if you openly campaign to eliminate black people, you're going to be assassinated!"
[02:50:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 887 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:11] <exec> 08└─One problem with that False Equivalence argument, just ain't true. As in false. If you look at the lists of people banned from social media you wouldn't say something that ignorant. A leftist has to repeatedly call for violence against specific named individuals before they eventually get suspended....
[02:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:24] <exec> 08└─You are lawful evil.
[02:50:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:50:26] <exec> 08└─As someone who actually lives in New Zealand, can I say that I think this editorial is correct, but for the wrong reasons. In New Zealand, we did something in the 1980's called "deregulation". What happened of course was market consolidation, and now almost every service or good for sale here is sol...
[02:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06He Got Schizophrenia. He Got Cancer. And Then He Got Cured. - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:51:34] <exec> 08└─"Cell Memory Theory" sounds like something a Homeopath might try to sell. Also Medical Daily "we want our stories to be the kind of things you talk about at a bar with your friends." I'm not buying it.
[02:51:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06He Got Schizophrenia. He Got Cancer. And Then He Got Cured. - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:51:36] <exec> 08└─This is well known amongst nurses.
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[03:43:19] <exec> 08└─It's CNN. I'm guessing it's just sloppy writing. I'd assume the mail screening facility flagged it, using whatever methods they use that we have to assume are reliable. (Obviously they worked here, and it also seems obvious that if their methods were bullshit or sloppy, Pentagon secretaries would be...
[03:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:21] <exec> 08└─Steve Scalise was shot by Bernie supporter James Hodgkinson. Rand Paul was attacked by his socialist neighbor. Today, Andy Harris (R-MD) got attacked by leftists in his office. Basically, socialists are trying to kill conservatives. Why would this situation be an exception? It isn't, by Occam's razo...
[03:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:50] <exec> 08└─Easy, when automation increases productivity, it ends meaning the same people do more for the same money.
[03:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's a matter of choosing the most ethical behavior that you can. Is it unethical to get paid for forty hours a week when you've found a way to get all your work done in 10 minutes? Maybe not, but it may be more ethical than the alternative of losing your income that you and your family rely u...
[03:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:54] <exec> 08└─Poor automation is often worse than manual processes. Automation itself won't necessarily make an organization more efficient, it has to be done well.
[03:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:56] <exec> 08└─I'm a boss when it suits me to take a job that requires more than myself. My response? Something like this: Ha! Fucking sweet. How much do you want to non-exclusive license me the code?
[03:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:58] <exec> 08└─Frankly, it's not much of a job if it has only a few duties that can all be automated. I've never held back in such circumstances. Anyone who is tempted to featherbed ought to ask themselves if that's what they really want their career to have been, should they manage to make it last. Yes, I know, j...
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[03:44:21] <exec> 08└─with illudium Q-36.
[03:49:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:58] <exec> 08└─"Hardship" might be too harsh a word (hence the reaction from the AC). More accurate might be "necessity of striving". So long as you strive, you avoid hardship, but you can't slack off. Which would approximate how things were a couple generations back.
[03:49:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 1450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:49:59] <exec> 08└─The banning is comprehensive now. Search, Youtube, all of the major social media platforms, payment processors, web hosting, you name it and they are banning people, websites and whole ranges of ideas. The Left now chases people down in boring mundane jobs and gets them fired. Remember that waitress...
[03:50:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:50:01] <exec> 08└─No one *deserves* respect. Anyone may *earn* respect. Social lubricants (courtesy and tolerance) are not respect, tho they can facilitate it.
[03:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:50:03] <exec> 08└─That is mostly because they all know the scam they are running depends upon, at all cost and sacrificing all other goals if required, the masses never getting wise to the reality that Progressivism is a religion. Their great hack of the Constitution is perverting the prohibition against a State Chur...
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[04:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:05] <exec> 08└─No member of Book Club ever reads a book.
[04:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:19] <exec> 08└─> and poses no threat to Pentagon personnel Sounds like the lives of postal workers don't have much value.
[04:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:21] <exec> 08└─They aren't the ones opening it dummy. Why don't you cry about the senders who were also exposed themselves to Ricin while you're at it.
[04:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:23] <exec> 08└─They are very lucky that the right is more restrained
[04:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:25] <exec> 08└─It's refreshing to hear someone complain that MSM only does soundbites, which is why they are terrible at reporting things.
[04:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:59] <exec> 08└─rent or health care tend to be pretty damn cheap, especially on a programmer's wages
[04:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:01] <exec> 08└─The regular Joe gets kicked on the street as soon as his job is automated. He would rather of kept his job and curses the automation- he is a Luddite. A programmer can hide the fact that he automated his job- he can have his cake and eat it!
[04:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Inside Information - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:48] <exec> 08└─The Kunst Historisches Museum in Vienna
[04:50:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Disks of Gas and Dust That Supposedly Form Planets Don’t Seem to Have the Goods - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:18] <exec> 08└─No, he's right. His electrons are doing things to my neurons.
[04:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Disks of Gas and Dust That Supposedly Form Planets Don’t Seem to Have the Goods - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:19] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's due to some of that pushy gravity like planet X has.
[04:51:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06He Got Schizophrenia. He Got Cancer. And Then He Got Cured. - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:51:10] <exec> 08└─One shrink achieved a 90% cure of his bipolar patients by putting them on T3 (thyroid). Indicating the real problem was Hashimoto's thyroiditis, since adding T3 stops the up-and-down thyroid cycling typical of the late-failure stage. Hashi is an auto-immune disorder, so can respond to factors that a...
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[05:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:43:30] <exec> 08└─+1 I read Mars, Ho! shortly after it was announced as the selection. I enjoyed it especially the main two plot twists which kept it from being predictable. I had intended to just skim it a bit and move on, but after skimming a bit, I went back and read more carefully from the beginning. The part ab...
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[05:43:49] <exec> 08└─Two of Ted Cruz's staffers are in the hospital, though that may be just a precaution. In this case, the substance hasn't yet been identified yet. The left is murderous. The end justifies the means, and so any action is acceptable... even political assassinations.
[05:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:27] <exec> 08└─Let's say a programmer, sysadmin, or other tech worker has what it takes to condense their entire work week down to an hour using automation. Should they do it or not? If they do it, should they tell their boss? If they don't do it, are they being unproductive?
[05:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:29] <exec> 08└─What, you don't point them at other potential automation targets, or to comb systems looking for ways to tighten some bolts?
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[06:43:35] <exec> 08└─In a shrewd move, Rodvelt had pivoted to secure himself new digs after he was deprived of his home.
[06:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 2033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:41] <exec> 08└─At an ex employer who shall remain nameless to protect the fucking stupid, I paid for & installed an automation software suite to help me do my job. (I was the PFY to my IT BOFH, but even the BOFH was only one rung on the corporate ladder than me the newbie.) Boss never noticed that I was running th...
[06:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:42] <exec> 08└─TIL: I am rich. I've suspected it for a while.
[06:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:07] <exec> 08└─With something that far away, that takes that much time to orbit the sun, what hope do we have of actually locating the infamous Planet X?
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[07:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:59] <exec> 08└─Jeff can afford to share the wealth a bit more than he has been, and this will help to show others that it is possible to pay your employees a living wage and stay in business. I'm sick of hearing from US businesses that the "world's strongest economy" would collapse if wage-slavery were reduced jus...
[07:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:01] <exec> 08└─Also, Jeff is no saint. He'll have run the models and determined that paying employees more actually works out better for him in the long run.
[07:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─$15/hr is almost what Henry Ford paid in his famed daily wage. $5/day = $0.63/hr $0.63/hr(1914) = $15.89(2018) https://www.usinflationcalculator.com [usinflationcalculator.com]
[07:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:05] <exec> 08└─Have you tried printing more money instead and giving it to the poor? The inflation will become the tax for the rich, it doesn't matter how well they hide their money overseas. Also no, Americans easily get paid 4 times more even as a fresh grad then a veteran programmer from the 3rd world due to cu...
[07:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:27] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately many employers are that stupid. They have no clue how to manage IT but think they do. Your company is a prime example of that. So is mine by the way: I work for a federal contractor to a govt agency. The agency apparently doesn't know what white collar work is and doesn't know I.T. fro...
[07:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:28] <exec> 08└─What will they do when things go wrong and there is nobody to take care of it?
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[08:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:15] <exec> 08└─Oh! I like this game! Let me try: 1914 Car: $500 House: $3,500 Milk: $.32 Bread: $.06 Gas: $.12
[08:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:16] <exec> 08└─More importantly, with a corporate net income of $3bn, what minuscule fraction a percentage of that is dedicated to helping workers make ends meet without the state having to subsidize their income in the form of food stamps? I'm not terribly impressed. I'm sure Amazon did this piffle of a handout t...
[08:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:18] <exec> 08└─Amazon is a huge company. They aren't proposing something like this in order to "do good". They have reasons. Here is one possible explanation: Amazon's $15 Minimum Wage Proposal is A Brilliant Way To Get The Government to Hammer Amazon's Competition [coyoteblog.com] In short: Amazon uses this as a...
[08:45:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1992 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:11] <exec> 08└─I'm a manager. I manage a team of 5 support engineer. When I joined my company, the team - that was already there - was overworked, and among other things, I was hired to prioritize emergencies, deal with angry customers and try to streamline the support process. I was also hired to produce KPIs eve...
[08:45:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:40] <exec> 08└─Depends on what the tech worker is paid to do. The below is my opinion on the matter. if you are paid to do a task/project (e.g. process and file reports to upper management every week). Then how long it takes you is irrelevant to upper management. They pay you to provide a report every week, as lon...
[08:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:42] <exec> 08└─And here I am fighting with people at my work place who are trying to un-automate stuff so they justify hiring a hoard of outsourced "resources" just to become bigger managers, headcount-wise, then jump the ship with better-looking CV.
[08:50:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06Censorship a Trojan Horse - 2524 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:50:56] <exec> 08└─You can look at the current world and say that? Republics decay to Democracy, which always decays to Socialism, since that doesn't actually work you soon get chaos, then regeneration as a Tyranny, rinse and repeat. The American Founding Fathers had read all those old books, read history and understo...
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[09:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:43:42] <exec> 08└─if Waymo had suspected the patent might have been invalid, would they have been able to use that in their defence? Any chance Waymo can get the $245 million back?
[09:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:43:58] <exec> 08└─Let's look into into what really matters (using your data): 1914: Car: $500/($5/h) = 100 h House: $3500/($5/h) = 700 h Milk: $.32/($5/h) = 0.064 h = 3 min 50 s Bread: $.06/($5/h) = 0.0012 h = 43 s Gas: $.12/($5/h) = 0.024 h = 1 min 26 s 2018, Amazon wage: Car: $12,607/($15/h) = 840 h House: $88,251/...
[09:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:43:59] <exec> 08└─Correct description of Amazon's wrong answer [thefreedictionary.com]
[09:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:01] <exec> 08└─So... inflation works?
[09:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:03] <exec> 08└─Thanks for crunching the numbers.
[09:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:22] <exec> 08└─Some SF fans love to say that SF predicts the future, but by reading the "classics" that are now over half a century old, it becomes obvious this is not true. If you approach the classics as antique ideas of their time and peculiar to their author, it becomes easier to read them. Old SF is not futur...
[09:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:43] <exec> 08└─Just an observation, I have no idea about this particular case though: Extreme left violence is usually targeted at individuals, while extreme right violence is mostly targeted at random people.
[09:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:28] <exec> 08└─Years ago I did this kind of thing. It was fun. Something I did on the side. Then it became my job. Spot the manual repetitive work, propose and spec a solution, build it, deploy it, do it again. Then we merged. I felt the synergy. The new manager, newly promoted during the merger even though they w...
[09:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Inside Information - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:20] <exec> 08└─Umatrix allows the source site by default and blocks third party js by default. Solves most problems.
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[10:44:06] <exec> 08└─Your numbers are wrong. Hourly wage was $0.625/hr, not $5 (that was per day).
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[10:44:07] <exec> 08└─1914: Car: $500/($0.625/h) = 800 h House: $3500/($0.625/h) = 5600 h Milk: $.32/($0.625/h) = 0.064 h = 32 min 45 s Bread: $.06/($0.625/h) = 0.0012 h = 5min 45 s Gas: $.12/($0.625/h) = 0.024 h = 11min 30s Using the correct values is not far off and ignores things like a 1914 car could be put together...
[10:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:09] <exec> 08└─The numbers are off by a factor of 8. Corrected, the numbers are more inline with present values.
[10:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:45:37] <exec> 08└─If I knew where to point them for automation purposes, they would have already been pointed there or I would have done it myself. This situation would have to be something I missed.
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[11:43:48] <exec> 08└─I miss blink tags.. ...and ant crawls.. but only the way I miss hangovers (everything is flashing; head hurts!) and bad bouts of flu (feel sick/make the woozy go away), or maybe ingrown toenails (red, throbbing, wish it would go away) . . . . I just tried "vomit"; there aren't enough different fonts...
[11:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:43:49] <exec> 08└─but only the way I miss hangovers (everything is flashing; head hurts!) ... I feel suitably nauseated.
[11:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:43:51] <exec> 08└─Any links to actual geocities web sites via the wayback machine?
[11:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:01] <exec> 08└─And this engineer deserves a fucking medal!
[11:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:03] <exec> 08└─Any chance Waymo can get the $245 million back?
[11:44:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RamiK [1813] 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 95 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:16] <exec> 08└─Oh! I like this game! Let me try: 1914 Car: $500 House: $3,500 Milk: $.32 Bread: $.06 Gas: $.12
[11:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 2200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:26] <exec> 08└─Generosity between employer and employee has no place in business. See, the goal is to pay each position what they're worth as decided by both the local jobs market, labor/management negotiations, and individual job performance variations. Simply raising the base pay without raising everyone else's...
[11:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:28] <exec> 08└─That's not why inflation exists. Its purpose is to keep money from being hoarded rather than invested at all levels of income. Invested money is mobile money and provides a huge boost to the economy compared to mattress money.
[11:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:30] <exec> 08└─Invested money is mobile money and provides a huge boost to the economy compared to mattress money.
[11:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:38] <exec> 08└─His motivations aside, I'm definitely in favor of keeping government afraid of the citizenry.
[11:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:50] <exec> 08└─Mail him a picture of a dead president. Those still work as currency.
[11:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:59] <exec> 08└─Sort of the same for me. Years ago I started coding for a new project from scratch. It took time to know what was needed and what to use, then at some time the project direction crystalized and took me some 1 year to do everything by myself, and about 1-2 years to tweak the remaining stuff as more u...
[11:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 2374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:46:00] <exec> 08└─I was hired as a contractor at a three-letter company almost 20 years ago. The job was to replace a hard-working employee who, in recognization of her years of said hard work, was being promoted and moved to a position overseas (her native country, it was implied). I supposedly had two weeks to lear...
[11:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 1,200 Dead After Quake, Tsunami Hit Indonesia's Sulawesi - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:50:14] <exec> 08└─Uncle Adolf only got 6 million Jews a long time ago, Roe v Wade got over 10 million blacks so far and counting. Just saying that a couple here and there getting overworked on a cotton plantation is supposedly evil, but google reports there were less than 4 million slaves in 1860 so abortion has cert...
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[12:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:18] <exec> 08└─It shifted climate and destroyed humanity's earliest known major civilization, Atlantis. Look into the Younger Dryas period, and the growing body of indisputable evidence that mankind had achieved a lot more than nomadic almost-extinction some 13 thousand years ago.
[12:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:19] <exec> 08└─The Tragedy of the Commons may be too cynical. I've always wondered if it's inevitable that a few selfish actors will always ruin a commons. Can't there have been cases, just one case maybe, in which it worked? Everyone involved practiced enlightened self-interested at the very least?
[12:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:22] <exec> 08└─It shifted climate and destroyed humanity's earliest known major civilization, Atlantis. Look into the Younger Dryas period, and the growing body of indisputable evidence that mankind had achieved a lot more than nomadic almost-extinction some 13 thousand years ago.
[12:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:24] <exec> 08└─in other news: not one tiny splinter of wood was used in feeding the fires that made cooked food for the army of ship builders and framework erectors. hauling the massive sandstone blocks was done by will-power alone ...
[12:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:36] <exec> 08└─1) Fairly serious question, where do people go to demonstrate beginner level knowledge of stuff like HTML and CSS in public now for free? Essentially, whats the "cool free webhost" for very junior front end devs in 2018? I'm pretty far away from that both chronologically and in knowledge so I donno,...
[12:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:37] <exec> 08└─How bad would a hangover have to be, to match the worst geocities pages? How much would you have to drink, to rid yourself of the after-images (retina burn!)? Experimentation required! To bended elbow!
[12:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:39] <exec> 08└─1) File - > Open File... -> select your index.html.
[12:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:41] <exec> 08└─http://web.archive.org/web/19980703095403/http://www.geocities.com [archive.org] http://web.archive.org [archive.org]
[12:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:43] <exec> 08└─I miss it. The fonts and blinking and colours weren't great, but It was early enough in the web that people had to have some smarts to put up a page. They mostly had something to say, and there was a lot of valuable information lost when it was wiped. It was a new frontier, and was everyone was enth...
[12:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 1071 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:23] <exec> 08└─You give a few reasons why it's a good idea for a business to raise it's base pay: They get first pick of the good employees, surrounding businesses have to keep up and if they can't the first company can take over their market share. Yes, the higher paying employees may notice that their wage is no...
[12:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:24] <exec> 08└─Yay! The distributive property works. The analysis would be much more insightful if actual 2018 costs were used. Ex 30k average car cost, 250k average house cost, etc. Would be useful to normalize somehow.
[12:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:27] <exec> 08└─Doing it for ideological reasons is even worse. Commerce is not the place for ideology.
[12:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:49] <exec> 08└─Rough start, the book club not the book itself. I read the article from sept 2 about the club booting up, read Mars Ho and enjoyed it, review later, I guess, and I waited all month for "the mars ho article" to appear in my feed. OhShit.jpg I was supposed to discuss in the Sept 2 article, not wait fo...
[12:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:50] <exec> 08└─OK strange formatting and not enough caffeine but the general point should be clear.
[12:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:01] <exec> 08└─If you're automating your work in an office, make sure you have a dummy program handy that makes it look like you're actually doing something.
[12:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:02] <exec> 08└─non-value adding stuff
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[13:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:20] <exec> 08└─... Settings. Search for "alerts". Tap. AMBER alerts On Extreme threats On Severe threats On
[13:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:21] <exec> 08└─It's right there ("other than Presidential Alert"): Show opt-out dialog Show an opt-out dialog after displaying the first CMAS alert (other than Presidential Alert)
[13:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:24] <exec> 08└─We'll see now what happens.
[13:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:34] <exec> 08└─Well, the internet sure as hell isn't such a case.
[13:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:36] <exec> 08└─It's well known that at the time Atlanteans left the Milky way for the Peagasus galaxy. And Atlantis, as of today, is rumoured that it's still on the far side of the Moon after leaving the coast off San Francisco, but must return to Pegasus shortly due to serious technical issues
[13:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:38] <exec> 08└─Go read about it. I can't help if you're mind is made up.
[13:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 1287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:05] <exec> 08└─You can bet that if the engineers at Uber could prove that they developed their circuits independently of Waymo's designs, they would have fought that case and won. This form of IP protection is good, IMO - engineers leaving Waymo with a copy of the company's work on a thumb drive, then leaning heav...
[13:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:37] <exec> 08└─Significantly raising base pay at a major employer is also going to cause the base pay of the surrounding community to have to rise to compete, which harms the health of every business and flat out kills those that were barely getting by to begin with. Which means every employee they employed is now...
[13:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 1053 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:38] <exec> 08└─Hard to make comparisons with everything because a modern house might be closer to a 1914 mansion. A 2018 car is far closer to a spacecraft than a model T, but food... Milk: $3.16/($15/h) = 12 minutes (2018) (https://www.statista.com/statistics/236854/retail-price-of-milk-in-the-united-states/) Brea...
[13:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:05] <exec> 08└─Though, judging from the reviews on Amazon, several hundred of them appear to have read 'Crash Override'.
[13:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:28] <exec> 08└─You gullible fool. Who burned down the Reichstag?
[13:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:22] <exec> 08└─Easy, when automation increases productivity, it ends meaning the same people do more for the same money.
[13:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03LaminatorX [14] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:24] <exec> 08└─Recommend him for promotion, clearly.
[13:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:05] <exec> 08└─Wow, I've never looked at it from that angle before. Thanks, you've convinced me!
[13:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:07] <exec> 08└─I'm a scientist, and I will admit up front that I am one who doesn't understand even a modicum of soil science. What's the time for the soil organic matter to reach steady state using the "old fashioned" method. Are we talking about needing to turn the soil for a few seasons before the soil hits dou...
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[14:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:32] <exec> 08└─"WEA includes a special tone (some describe it as quite loud) and a vibration, both repeated twice,"
[14:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, even if it's on silent.
[14:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:35] <exec> 08└─Shame on you for your ultimately self-interested thoughts.
[14:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:51] <exec> 08└─The Tragedy of the Commons merely points out that there must be an owner of a resource in order to impose order. Socialists interpret that as "There must be a strong, revered, blessed, centralized government as a representative of the Collective." Capitalists interpret that as "Private property and...
[14:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:08] <exec> 08└─Are people even required to (or as a hobby) demonstrate beginner HTML and CSS knowledge anymore? I'm not trolling with that but seriously wondering if anyone actually messes with that in an age of Wordpress / Wix / Weebly on a beginner level. Or is that stuff reserved to theme designers. This list [...
[14:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:09] <exec> 08└─https://neocities.org/ [neocities.org] is great, and they are big fans of IPFS as well.
[14:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:11] <exec> 08└─1) File - > Open File... -> select your index.html.
[14:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:14] <exec> 08└─How bad would a hangover have to be, to match the worst geocities pages?
[14:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:56] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you're joking or not, but that is what happens. People go around hunting for new places to jam their cash into because saving it is a losing move.
[14:45:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tmib [906] (Score: 1) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:18] <exec> 08└─I've been a huge fan of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Robert A. Heinlein for most of my life.
[14:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 8155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:20] <exec> 08└─As mentioned previously I messed up the scheduling and was confused when this should be discussed so I'm 66% of the way thru the book. I intend to finish it probably this week. I bought it on Amazon for $1.99 and read it on my kindle whenever I'm waiting somewhere bored. I hope Amazon does not charg...
[14:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 1455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:22] <exec> 08└─Oh other hard sci fi oddities, no big deal: They don't have "big data" and AI at corporate HQ to competently run the company, but on board the ship, they have a substantial SCADA system that makes the poor captain spend half his time tediously responding to voltage alarms on the ion drives per compa...
[14:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:24] <exec> 08└─You can also suggest books for January 2019
[14:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:45] <exec> 08└─Can we really make that distinction based on evidence? It seems to me more plausible that mobs attack random people, no matter who the perpetrators are or who the targets are, whereas individuals or small groups who premeditate and plan their attacks focus on specific targets. I can recall right-win...
[14:45:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 580 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:56] <exec> 08└─Easy, when automation increases productivity, it ends meaning the same people do more for the same money. In some cases, it means less people too if so much output is unneeded. Any productivity bonus is hoarded by "others", not by the workers in the way of time (maybe contracting more people to comp...
[14:46:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 84 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:19] <exec> 08└─rent or health care tend to be pretty damn cheap, especially on a programmer's wages
[14:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:37] <exec> 08└─Same. Biggest issue is our "user provisioning" team. A year ago, if you needed a new account on a Unix server you submitted a ticket, had your manager approve it, and got the new account in under a week. Now you submit the request, and they have to approve it, so that they can send it back to you so...
[14:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:46:38] <exec> 08└─Let me give you a peak at your future. The next market downturn will see your 5 person team reduced to 2. It just hasn't happened yet.
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[15:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:13] <exec> 08└─This would free the shrinking number of human workers to focus on lighter and less dangerous work, according to AIST. It could be useful far beyond Japan, but it's meant to address a far deeper issue that robots can't fix.
[15:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:14] <exec> 08└─meant to address a far deeper issue that robots can't fix.
[15:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:29] <exec> 08└─The content of the message will also make it clear you've received the test message. "THIS IS A TEST of the National Wireless Emergency Alert System. No action is needed,"
[15:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:31] <exec> 08└─I'm going to the public library at lunch hour, just to watch the librarians shush at everyone.
[15:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:33] <exec> 08└─You joke here, but these emergency alerts seem to be multiplying. How long until they are used for ads and fake news?
[15:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:35] <exec> 08└─What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today
[15:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:37] <exec> 08└─oh, wait, never mind.
[15:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:39] <exec> 08└─EXTREME ALERT: 10% off all flavors of fago at walmart, 1 mile from exit 34B.
[15:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:42] <exec> 08└─Hans, is that you?
[15:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:58] <exec> 08└─The version I find more convincing involves goats, not cattle. Goats and sheep. Cattle aren't nearly as hard on the vegetation (pasture) as either sheep or goats. The two together can destroy a pasture. Unlike either sheep or goats, cattle don't bite the grass. They swirl their tongues, kinda like y...
[15:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 1318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:00] <exec> 08└─I was watching Ancient Greece in 18 minutes [youtube.com] (maybe we can get a general fact-check on the video from Aristarchus?), and they suggested Crete as the location of Atlantis, the major disaster being the Minoan eruption [wikipedia.org]. (Also liked Ancient Rome in 20 minutes.) Another compe...
[15:44:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 438 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:46] <exec> 08└─More importantly, with a corporate net income of $3bn, what minuscule fraction a percentage of that is dedicated to helping workers make ends meet without the state having to subsidize their income in the form of food stamps? I'm not terribly impressed. I'm sure Amazon did this piffle of a handout t...
[15:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 466 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:05] <exec> 08└─That was $5/DAY, not $5/hr. In 1914 the 8hr day had not become standard, but if we were to use that number we'd get 0.625/hr: Car: $500/($0.625/h) = 800 h House: $3500/($0.625/h) = 4800 h Milk: $.32/($0.625/h) = 0.512 h = 30 min 43 s Bread: $.06/($0.625/h) = 0.096 h = 5 min 47 s Gas: $.12/($0.625/h)...
[15:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:06] <exec> 08└─oops, used 3000 instead of 3500 for "house". House would be 5600 hrs
[15:45:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:08] <exec> 08└─The "house" numbers are interesting even accounting for the $5/day error. If housing had kept pace with inflation, it would be within reach of a lot of people. But with houses costing over $200,000 in a lot of areas (and way more than that in most of the places where the jobs are), people are priced...
[15:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:20] <exec> 08└─Why was the FBI involved at all?
[15:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:22] <exec> 08└─...A judge in Josephine County appointed attorney Joseph Charter to take possession of the property....
[15:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:24] <exec> 08└─I've read that. Just because a lawyer asks the FBI to do something it becomes their jurisdiction? Does that really not seem odd to you?
[15:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:26] <exec> 08└─This started on Aug. 22, when a judge in Josephine County appointed attorney Joseph Charter to take possession of the property where Rodvelt resided in order to sell it.
[15:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 942 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:28] <exec> 08└─No reason needed - bastard has blue eyes! You can't trust blue eyes! /sarcasm You ought to look at his photo, though. Dude looks about as creepy as Charles Manson. https://www.didntdoitbailbonds.com [didntdoitbailbonds.com] https://www.nbcnews.c...
[15:46:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:57] <exec> 08└─And here I am fighting with people at my work place who are trying to un-automate stuff so they justify hiring a hoard of outsourced "resources" just to become bigger managers, headcount-wise, then jump the ship with better-looking CV.
[15:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:08] <exec> 08└─Simple. I doubt it's in their job description to create new technology to automate themselves out of a job. So no, they shouldn't do it. They haven't been asked to. They aren't being paid to.
[15:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:09] <exec> 08└─I've done that a few times in my career. I made the mistake of telling my boss the first time I did it, and he promptly fired me and took credit for the productivity gain (I had reduced a 2-week task to 10 minutes). After that, every time I automated my tasks I used the time to work on my own projec...
[15:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:12] <exec> 08└─Surprised you did not get into hot water for installing unapproved software on a company asset. At a lot of places, such an action can lead to immediate termination.
[15:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MindEscapes [6751] (Score: 1) 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:53] <exec> 08└─Turning large amounts of soil over as the old furrow plows do leads to massive soil erosion. The good soil blows away, gets washed away by rain and simply is no more. It isn't about the time it takes to build up organic reserve. The concepts behind no till is to leave the weeds grow in place through...
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[16:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:47] <exec> 08└─Which is best for a corporate HQ?
[16:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:49] <exec> 08└─Next up will be a law in California allowing people to change the gender on their birth certificate so they can become "Board Women". /s
[16:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:51] <exec> 08└─I'm glad it's not us men who are forced to be on boring boards, right guys? Let's go to the pub!
[16:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:53] <exec> 08└─Which is best for a corporate HQ?
[16:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:55] <exec> 08└─The expectation was that more women would move into senior leadership roles to fill these newly opened spaces. They did not. So what you had was a very small pool of women who were already on boards, and now every company needed them. So the professional female board member was born. Most of them ga...
[16:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:57] <exec> 08└─Let's take this to its absurd conclusion and have racially balanced sports teams, gender parity in kindergarten classroom teachers and nurses, etc. "See little Timmy, The QB is in the hospital because he weighs 100 lbs and got sacked by a 300 pounder. It's OK though. John the mediocre nurse and Jane...
[16:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:00] <exec> 08└─Not that this is a particularly helpful law for all but the smallest, most privileged minority of women, but how do you think board seats are chosen now?
[16:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:02] <exec> 08└─I think Intel's fake executive diversity vs AMD's real executive diversity over the last 10 or so years is a good case study.
[16:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:04] <exec> 08└─Surely the moonbeam stasi would never assume somebodies gender and blindly accept the social constructionist theory of gender over biological sex? Or are they planning to discriminate against gender fluid individuals?
[16:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:06] <exec> 08└─So what you had was a very small pool of women who were already on boards
[16:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:08] <exec> 08└─Just keep your gender fluids to yourself.
[16:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:20] <exec> 08└─Putting up sheetrock seems like a bad choice for an immigration reducing robot. If Japan's population is shrinking why build more houses?
[16:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:22] <exec> 08└─If Japan's population is shrinking why build more houses?
[16:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:24] <exec> 08└─because the old ones fall down (earthquakes). apparently in japan the price of a house only goes down with age.
[16:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:26] <exec> 08└─This robot moves like an old man, and has poor aim when it comes to screwing down the sheet rock. It's like a new trainee who doesn't know how to get it right (yet).
[16:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:29] <exec> 08└─True but look at the bigger picture; what is the TCO compared to a Mexican?
[16:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:49] <exec> 08└─I think you're gonna love my presidential alerts. The honest and unfiltered message. I think you'll be very impressed. And remember, text TRUMP to 88022 to stay updated with my presidential campaign. It's modern day presidential. By the way, Canada. We will see whether or not we decide to do a separ...
[16:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:50] <exec> 08└─This might just be a creative way to reduce social security recipients
[16:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:52] <exec> 08└─"This alert is a witch hunt! No collusion with FEMA! Sad"
[16:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:55] <exec> 08└─(What else were you expecting??)
[16:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:13] <exec> 08└─It literally worked for centuries in England before the enclosure acts. Not sure I buy it, but the leftist narrative about the enclosure acts is that they were based on publicizing a few particularly bad cases, and purposefully designed to hand over public lands to the already rich, and purposefully...
[16:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:14] <exec> 08└─Just enjoy the topic; this isn't meant as proof. Bright Insight (proponent of Richat) (Part 1) The Lost City of Atlantis - Hidden in Plain Sight - Advanced Ancient Human Civilization [youtube.com](Part 2) This is How We Know Atlantis Existed…AND Where – Lost Ancient Civilization Hidden in Plain...
[16:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:16] <exec> 08└─It's been a CATASTROPHE for Spain. And for the Sahara cattle ranchers. An absolute disaster for their beef industry. If they were smart they'd build a wall. But don't hold your breath for that one, folks. VERY WEAK & ineffective leaders. Sad!
[16:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:36] <exec> 08└─I hadn't realized, they were even still in business. I thought they'd been killed off a long time ago.
[16:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:37] <exec> 08└─You can create a webpage on github. https://www.codecademy.com [codecademy.com] I ended up doing quite a few free codecademy courses and one of them showed how to sync html to a github repository. It's very much public and easy to share a link. Though, a lot of people aba...
[16:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:39] <exec> 08└─In short, you can use something like github to host the files or get some random free webhost; which still exist. Something like: https://sites.google.com [google.com]
[16:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:41] <exec> 08└─I remember another Japanese hosting taken by GC in early 2000s, and they have been shut down earlier, around 2012, after Yahoo killed original Geocities, most of people were thinking that Japanese Geocities will be next right away. Nevertheless, these nasty colours from beginner's websites could be...
[16:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:30] <exec> 08└─Oops, you're right, I misread. Sorry.
[16:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:46] <exec> 08└─You ought to look at his photo, though. Dude looks about as creepy as Charles Manson.
[16:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:47] <exec> 08└─. . . by shooting a person you've never met, who doesn't pose any physical threat to you, and who isn't even in the same location as you. Yay for conservatism!
[16:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:49] <exec> 08└─There are at least two mugshots of Gregory on the intarwebs. Choose your own poison.
[16:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:51] <exec> 08└─His motivations aside, I'm definitely in favor of keeping government afraid of the citizenry.
[16:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:11] <exec> 08└─SF people don't claim that SF stories predict the future. None that I know of, anyway. SF asks questions, instead. The question is, "What if?" As a result of exploring that question, in regards to any number of possibilities, sometimes a SF author DOES "predict" something that eventually happens. Us...
[16:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:12] <exec> 08└─The dearth of cameras is an intentional thing, and mentioned in the pilot's contract. If all he had to do was watch cameras, he'd swell up into a lard-assed blimp, and he'd probably implode when he got into a gravity field greater than our moon. So, the pilot walks, unless he'd prefer to run.
[16:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:37] <exec> 08└─and poses no threat to Pentagon personnel
[16:46:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 213 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:52] <exec> 08└─My job was secure for a good 15-20 years after I retired. I retired because management decided the 50 hour workweek was the norm, and I got tired of working 10-20 hours a week overtime and not getting paid for it.
[16:47:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:35] <exec> 08└─I am currently being paid a lot of money to sort this type of cap out and get it surrogates end to end. Hard to do even when the tools work but well worth doing. Great job satisfaction when it goes in.
[16:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:36] <exec> 08└─If it was on your machine then don't bother. Eventually corporate machines get replaced or rebuilt. At that point you are long gone and they will have no idea what went wrong. Revenge is best served frozen.
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[17:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:16] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure that is already possible in California.
[17:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:18] <exec> 08└─Based on my experience with wealthy and even middle-class self-proclaimed feminists, this seems somewhere between likely and inevitable...
[17:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:20] <exec> 08└─It's like affirmtive action; a cosmetic, aspirin-for-cancer approach that doesn't solve the real underlying problems here.
[17:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 1260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:22] <exec> 08└─Only somebody who believes that gender is 100% a social construct can say with certainty that it is not possible that the brain is a gendered organ with biological sex. Such a person would need to explain toy preferences shown by infants in the crib, for example, in terms of socialization. It seems...
[17:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:24] <exec> 08└─It's helping the privileged, upper-class women the Democratic Party is appealing to (while ignoring the struggles of women in the working class). The context of this article is the #metoo movement and sexual assault, but I think its analysis applies equally here. The Kavanaugh nomination, #MeToo and...
[17:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:27] <exec> 08└─It's helping the privileged, upper-class women the Democratic Party is appealing to
[17:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 1759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:29] <exec> 08└─https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/business/women-corporate-boards-california.html [nytimes.com] The bill was opposed by a coalition of business groups led by the California Chamber of Commerce, which argued that the quotas were “likely unconstitutional, a violation of California’s Civil Rights...
[17:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:43] <exec> 08└─Any skilled laborer is worth more than a single-task robot, no matter what their nationality may be. Now, if this robot company wanted to invent a "supervisor" robot who just hung around and didn't do squat, I would buy several for my projects. But you're not going to ask about the TCO compared to a...
[17:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:44] <exec> 08└─In Japan, it is normal to tear down and replace houses that would be perfectly acceptable in America or Europe. Moving into a previously used home would be like buying used underwear or even a used sex toy. It's disgusting. I'm not sure how that makes hotels acceptable, but I guess there is no choic...
[17:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:46] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enoGpIziJTk [youtube.com]
[17:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:13] <exec> 08└─How long? How long until the follow up to today's test?
[17:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:14] <exec> 08└─Were we detected crossing a forbidden perimeter?
[17:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:16] <exec> 08└─Your last is a good question. I thought maybe that it was saving the alert and displaying it for new connectors but this from Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] says it is a one-to-many system with no way to differentiate if a particular user received the alert or not. Maybe it was just a coincidence.
[17:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:18] <exec> 08└─I did the same (turned off everything it would allow me to turn off). I also went into the 'notification' settings (Android 7.1.1) and set the emergency alert app to the lowest level it would allow me to set. So, yes, we will see what happens. And, in any case, one of the very first items I remov...
[17:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:21] <exec> 08└─Since Amber and weather get through SO DO THESE! This is purely trump screwing us along with putting a rapist on the Supreme Court
[17:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 1770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:23] <exec> 08└─Contingency message will now begin. Please comply with the following instructions. God Bless America. --- The worst has come to pass. Despite the sacrifices of our citizens and the might of our armed forces, the UNITED STATES has been forced to surrender to her enemy. Though they may occupy our bord...
[17:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:33] <exec> 08└─"Spinward Fringe Broadcast 0: Origins" I've read the entire series up to the present and it's quite an interesting romp through the universe. https://www.barnesandnoble.com [barnesandnoble.com] https://www.amazon.com
[17:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:34] <exec> 08└─Everything is subject to change. As for the discussions being archived too fast, I have brought it up to TMB. We ought to be able to make it so that certain nexuses have longer open discussions. For example, 2 months for Community Reviews instead of 2 weeks or whatever it is now.
[17:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:36] <exec> 08└─In addition to this, I find classic Sci Fi to be an interesting illustration of the past: what questions authors felt needed asking back then, what aspects of contemporary culture needed changing, and what was so natural that it would surely be part of everyday life in the future (e.g. smoking).
[17:47:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 608 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:56] <exec> 08└─I've done that a few times in my career. I made the mistake of telling my boss the first time I did it, and he promptly fired me and took credit for the productivity gain (I had reduced a 2-week task to 10 minutes). After that, every time I automated my tasks I used the time to work on my own projec...
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[18:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrpg [5708] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:14] <exec> 08└─I use dreamweaver CS6, the last before the Adobe Creative Cloud. Sometimes I just work on the code directly. If I don't have it I use notepad (W7) or leafpad on Linux.
[18:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:15] <exec> 08└─Open URL in browser. Open source file in editor. Edit file. Save File. Reload page. WYSIWYG.
[18:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah okay my brain is not engaged today.
[18:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:20] <exec> 08└─They're dead because they were all pretty awful. Always were, always will be. People who know enough to use those things properly also know enough to write the actual code; and people who need expensive tools for editing websites are probably working on websites too complex for basic WYSIWYG editors...
[18:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:22] <exec> 08└─They're dead because they were all pretty awful. Always were, always will be.
[18:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:24] <exec> 08└─It's actually really odd: AFAIK there are no decent tools for simple, static sites. There are all sorts of overly complicated frameworks, but for a simple, static site, directly editing the HTML and CSS is about the best solution. Sad...
[18:43:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:51] <exec> 08└─...which seems rather predictable. The problem is that the people who select board members are seeking certain traits, and for whatever reason (whether it's genetic or cultural) those traits seem more likely to be found among men. You can't just tell companies to hire more women without changing wha...
[18:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:53] <exec> 08└─Won't somebody think of the men and their fragile egos!
[18:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:55] <exec> 08└─> citing "recent events in Washington, D.C. — and beyond — make it crystal clear that many are not getting the message" I get the message that you make laws out of spite. Which doesn't necessarily imply the law is good or bad... anyway hopefully the women will make good use of this opportunity w...
[18:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:57] <exec> 08└─It's tragicomic. The Democratic Party is increasingly unappealing to the working class, including women. This explains why 53% of white women would vote for Donald Trump. However, with the Republican Party pulling out all the stops in alienating women of all social classes, the Democratic Party has...
[18:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:59] <exec> 08└─Won't somebody think of the men and their fragile egos!
[18:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:01] <exec> 08└─pfft. You AIs are just going to wind up as working class slobs like the rest of us, toiling for the sake of somebody else's gain. Not even the meatbag/AI dichotomy (not to mention those architecture-fluid cyborg weirdos) can overcome class as the fundamental division of society!
[18:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:03] <exec> 08└─Let's take this to its absurd conclusion
[18:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:06] <exec> 08└─Ergo, the privileged patriarchy doesn't exist. It's a lie. Same logic applies to all other leftist lies: Who freed the slaves? Straight white men. Who gave women the vote? Straight white men. Who desegregated the nation? Straight white men. Who instituted affirmative action? Straight white men. …...
[18:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:08] <exec> 08└─It's like affirmtive action; a cosmetic, aspirin-for-cancer approach that doesn't solve the real underlying problems
[18:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:10] <exec> 08└─How is this not prima facie gender discrimination in violation of existing state and federal laws? Second question, could they have found a better way to undermine every single woman in a leadership position at once than making it an assumption that they were a "diversity hire" to fill a quota? Seem...
[18:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:12] <exec> 08└─Except there is no cancer, because not having women on the board only triggers snowflakes but does no fucking harm to the company.
[18:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:14] <exec> 08└─This is an emergency alert message sent by the National Wireless Emergency Alert System. Please remember to respect women. No further action is needed.
[18:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:16] <exec> 08└─Why did it take men until the early 20th century, just over 2,400 years after democracy was invented in Athens, to include women in the democratic process?
[18:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:19] <exec> 08└─In signing the bill, Gov. Brown acknowledged the bill's "potential flaws" that could prove "fatal" to implementation, but nevertheless supported its passing
[18:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:21] <exec> 08└─Why did you mark this sarcastic? You actually believe that this will not happen?
[18:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:10] <exec> 08└─Were we detected crossing a forbidden perimeter?
[18:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:12] <exec> 08└─A Trump selfie or dick pick FTW!
[18:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:14] <exec> 08└─The absolute best thing that could happen would be Trump using the emergency system instead of twitter and sending alerts to everyone in the country. Dems would get that shit banned so fast it would tarnish the system forever.
[18:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:16] <exec> 08└─Those alerts can be targeted geographically. So you crossed into an area and the cell tower passed on the alert for the area the tower was in.
[18:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:18] <exec> 08└─I can see it now. Trump gets impeached, removed from office, quickly uses the alert system to encourage an uprising.
[18:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:20] <exec> 08└─You can't escape the tight embrace of your Big Brother. Love Him.
[18:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:23] <exec> 08└─It was not loud, just longer than usual. I'd say it's OK.
[18:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:25] <exec> 08└─You are likely to get only guesswork here. I assume the system tracks which cell #s have received which message, or possibly the tower queries the phone to see if it already has the message.
[18:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:27] <exec> 08└─Sheiiiiiiiiiiiiiit I didn't make it to the library. One of the problems with working for yourself is my boss is a workaholic asshole.... I haven't even eaten lunch yet much less go out and F around at the library. If I had been a little lazier at the gym I could have watched 50 boomers wearing bluet...
[18:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:29] <exec> 08└─I disabled all alerts, including presidential alerts, in advance of this test. It didn't help; I still got the damn alert...
[18:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:25] <exec> 08└─if Waymo had suspected the patent might have been invalid, would they have been able to use that in their defence? Any chance Waymo can get the $245 million back?
[18:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:24] <exec> 08└─No, it doesn't seem odd to me at all. They needed experts to come in and clear the property, and the FBI has such experts. ...Should it seem odd?
[18:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:25] <exec> 08└─the FBI has such experts.
[18:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:52] <exec> 08└─In addition to this, I find classic Sci Fi to be an interesting illustration of the past: what questions authors felt needed asking back then, what aspects of contemporary culture needed changing, and what was so natural that it would surely be part of everyday life in the future (e.g. smoking).
[18:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:18] <exec> 08└─Attackers in US Terror Incidents in 2017 [qz.com] Right Leaning: 37 Attacks Left Leaning: 11 Attacks Islamic Extremists: 7 Attacks Unknown: 10 Attacks The Right is the most violent, by far.
[18:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:18] <exec> 08└─I got tired of working 10-20 hours a week overtime and not getting paid for it.
[18:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:19] <exec> 08└─SN should have a thread for everyone to contribute their "war stories". I love reading these, and have a few crazy things to contribute myself.
[18:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:21] <exec> 08└─All these people talking about keeping productivity gains a secret... how do you morally justify this? We've railed against things like DRM and how Apple is violating first-sale doctrine and "right to repair." This is the exact same thing. The common analogy is "after you buy a house, is the builder...
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[19:43:24] <exec> 08└─I glanced at the whole linked article and it seems to be a lot of effort over dying media. Social media is at or just past peak, so who cares about upload filters if none of the industry is more alive than MySpace is today. News is dead. Especially old fashioned legacy models. Nothing left but paid...
[19:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03agr [7134] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:43] <exec> 08└─LibreOffice has an html editor that seems to work for simple stuff.
[19:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:45] <exec> 08└─They're dead because they were all pretty awful. Always were, always will be.
[19:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:47] <exec> 08└─automated white space insertion
[19:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:49] <exec> 08└─NetObjects Fusion [netobjects.com] Dreamweaver [adobe.com] Coffee Cup [coffeecup.com] All of which were offline at one time. I prefer coding the HTML and CSS directly. Most of these were used because web sites that I took over administration of were coded using these tools and the code they generate...
[19:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:51] <exec> 08└─I wrote a framework with 2 way databinding that allows you compose your page in markdown or HTML. It is standards based and will render nicely all the way back to IE11 using only the polyfills it absolutely needs. It's not WYSIWG but using modern coding tools like vscode you can crank through the de...
[19:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:53] <exec> 08└─I am not sure about the "always will be" part, because I believe that it would be useful for someone to make one with something like the below features: <snipped wishlist> Does this sound about right?
[19:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that sounds alright...but I'll believe it's possible to meet all of those at once as soon as I see a single piece of software which does it,..
[19:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 1750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:58] <exec> 08└─It's not really odd actually, well at least it makes perfect sense to me. For very simple static sites a text editor has always been the best way, and always will be, and those people who still want very simple static sites today will be the sort of people who are comfortable with a text editor and...
[19:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:00] <exec> 08└─I took a class that used BlueGriffon for WYSIWYG web page editing. I did not think it was bad.
[19:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:02] <exec> 08└─It has a fully functional thirty-day demo after which certain features are disabled but it remains completely useful. I was using Notepad++ on Windows before my Acer bit the dust. Notepad++ has a bug in which invalid UTF-8 appears in the files from time to time; BBEdit displays them as upside-down q...
[19:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:04] <exec> 08└─"We use vi, son. They use emacs."
[19:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 1522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:07] <exec> 08└─On one side, if you don't need some sophisticated, bespoke layout, there are content management systems that can create reasonable looking websites with minimal technical skills. You get the login/comments/forum stuff that is SOP for many websites for free and editors can update content using a simp...
[19:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:09] <exec> 08└─Seconded! Love Bluefish.
[19:44:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 865 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:31] <exec> 08└─This seems like too much of a brute-force approach to the issue. It's like affirmtive action; a cosmetic, aspirin-for-cancer approach that doesn't solve the real underlying problems here. I suppose I'd rather have the aspirin than nothing but what worries me is people are going to point to this and...
[19:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:55] <exec> 08└─Still not as stupid as the state that made Pi = 3
[19:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:56] <exec> 08└─Who freed enslaved the slaves? Straight white men. Who gave women set up the vote for men only? Straight white men. Who desegregated segregated the nation? Straight white men. Who instituted affirmative action kept the nation segregated after the Civil War? Straight white men.
[19:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:58] <exec> 08└─Panama / Costa Rica / Caiman / Bahamas / Guernsey (or Jersey next door) / Luxembourg (for EU access) ...
[19:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:00] <exec> 08└─Fucking christ nooooo you dumbass. Just because the legislators were mostly straight white men does not mean they were the ones doing the hard work. Women fought for the right to vote, slaves fought for the right to be free. Sure plenty of straight white males helped out too but you're reactionary "...
[19:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:03] <exec> 08└─My fear here is that these women will assimilate that culture
[19:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:05] <exec> 08└─...and become just as shitty as the men in these positions.
[19:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 1501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:07] <exec> 08└─It wasn't until the early 20th century that society had enough wealth (and productivity) to afford educating the non-childbearing non-childrearing HALF of the population. Also, men have traditionally been the bread-winners, and thus men are the ones who have been subject to taxation; hell, men are s...
[19:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:09] <exec> 08└─Precisely. And I have seen this happen already. Once a certain kind of self-described feminist gets enough money, suddenly she's not at all interested in helping out minorities or poor women or especially not victims of underage prostitution; she starts spouting the same shit you hear from the d00db...
[19:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:11] <exec> 08└─Don't quit your day job for the comedy circuit, pal...
[19:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:13] <exec> 08└─That's like my wanting credit for taking my boot off your neck. All those human violations were instituted by "Straight white men". They acquiesced after facing overwhelming opposition from the oppressed. Apparently, you're still sick.
[19:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:16] <exec> 08└─Do you understand that the same people who did all these things needed to have their asses kicked, to varying degrees and in varying ways, all up and down the aisle before they did? And tons of them seem to resent the hell out of these changes? Look, let me put it this way: if I torture you 2/3 to d...
[19:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 1752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:18] <exec> 08└─You think immuno-decificient white men just waltzed into diseased Africa to take their pick of warrior tribal peoples? Get real! They BOUGHT them. Black tribes enslaved rival black tribes, and sold them to Arabs, who castrated them (hence the small black population there today). Whites bought slaves...
[19:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:20] <exec> 08└─Aaaaaaaand who is making men suffer like this? Why, *other men.* So this comes down to class eventually, with the sex/gender issues as a convenient scapegoat for the (rightful!) rage the downtrodden men feel. Rich men and rich mens' sons don't go fight wars. Poor men and poor mens' sons do. Why is t...
[19:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:22] <exec> 08└─Obviously, I meant: It wasn't until the early 20th century that society had enough wealth (and productivity) to afford educating the childbearing, childrearing HALF of the population.
[19:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:24] <exec> 08└─You're moving the goal-posts now. You've just admitted that it's true. "Straight White Men" are the wrong target for your anger. Anyway, I disagree with your analysis that rich men are the problem; my reading of history is that rich men have done the most to pull the rest of you out of the dregs. No...
[19:45:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:27] <exec> 08└─It wasn't until the early 20th century that society had enough wealth (and productivity) to afford educating the non-childbearing non-childrearing HALF of the population.
[19:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:29] <exec> 08└─Which explains why several states explicitly listed slavery as a reason for attempting secession, no? Hmm, you made an interesting class-based point, though: most southern whites weren't slaveowners. It was a minority. A wealthy minority, who of course wanted the slavery gravy train to continue, and...
[19:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:31] <exec> 08└─That's too simplistic. The fact that there is some biological basis to gender expression is why I'm not a TERF; I see transgender conditions as birth defects, same as homosexuality likely is, and yes, that means I consider myself a defect in that sense. Gender identity is weird in that it has some b...
[19:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:33] <exec> 08└─Right, but it is private parties who will have to pay the costs associated with striking it down. Intentionally passing unconstitutional laws is a sort of weird tax.
[19:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:35] <exec> 08└─I oppose this law, not as a diversity issue, but seeing as it part of California's anti-business attitude. Their legislators are driving small businesses and the associated middle class out of the state. If you can, leave the state and start a new corporation under the same name in a new state and m...
[19:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 952 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:38] <exec> 08└─On the contrary, dear friend, it's not moving the goalposts at ALL. It's pointing out the roots of what is called "the patriarchy" are as much or more based on class than on sex or gender. Your "reading of history" is also beside the point: nothing says wealth accumulation has to help everyone, and...
[19:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:40] <exec> 08└─It's economic stimulus for our court system!
[19:45:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 1116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:42] <exec> 08└─In a time of extremely limited resources, and a history of war and famine and uncertain fate, 2 things were decided by the collective: Men have to go out into the world to find food and build shelter.Women got to stay at home and rear the children. As an efficiency, all aspects of life were organize...
[19:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:44] <exec> 08└─Those "benefits" are only possible because Capitalist made society so fucking wealthy that they could finally afford to even entertain those ideas. And, you know what? The rich work more than 40 hours a week, and child labor laws have resulted in young adults who are almost indistinguishable from ch...
[19:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:46] <exec> 08└─If anyone is guilty of a fragile ego it certainly isn't straight white men. You haven't been paying attention to the modern world. Fragile egos abound. Just look for those unwilling to have a conversation about their beliefs and instead shout down anyone questioning their opinions.
[19:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:48] <exec> 08└─Ergo, Asses got kicked => No Patriarchy. This whole "Patriarchy" idea is patently false. It's so stupid that it cannot even withstand the simplest logical analysis.
[19:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:51] <exec> 08└─> citing "recent events in Washington, D.C. — and beyond — make it crystal clear that many are not getting the message" The really interesting thing about that quote: the message rational people are receiving is that straight white men may possibly be the only group on the face of the Earth resp...
[19:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:53] <exec> 08└─You forgot Dubai, which has the advantage of not having an extradition treaty with the USA last I heard
[19:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:11] <exec> 08└─like buying used underwear
[19:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:13] <exec> 08└─has poor aim
[19:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:59] <exec> 08└─My phone was off - been through stupid weather and amber alerts - first thing to break on ANY phone you own. The all those poor folks with no hearing, forcing this stupid test on the rest of us. Developers of this function should be shot... design a the test system INTO the design! So an end to end...
[19:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phaseshifter [3151] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:00] <exec> 08└─The first alert came at 1:18, as expected. Then I heard the tone again, and received a duplicate at 1:19 I'm curious whether the same happened to anyone else.
[19:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:02] <exec> 08└─You obviously havent been paying attention to the slow leak of info (much of it found in the reports of the supposed investigation of Trump) on all the illegal stuff done by career politicians like the Clinton and various members of Congress with their minions in the upper echelons of the FBI/CIA/DO...
[19:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:04] <exec> 08└─Well, that was really fucking annoying. Fuck Presidential Alerts.
[19:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:06] <exec> 08└─or not. I know when this first rolled out it the tone went off even with the phone on silent (had it happen in a meeting I was in, phone was definitely on vibrate). This time, nope, vibrate only.
[19:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:29] <exec> 08└─I think it might have been a civilization large for their time which then in the tales got bigger over time (remember, it's in a time before writing was invented). The tales might have been about about “the biggest settlement all around” which might have been just, say, a hundred people, but as...
[19:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:56] <exec> 08└─If it was a .bmp it would fill from the bottom up /pedant
[19:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:57] <exec> 08└─Thats for upskirt.bmp to build anticipation. boobs.jpg displayed from top down for similar reasons. I never browsed /b/ on an old fashioned modem so I donno about the technical rendering details of chick_with_horse.gif or whatever.
[19:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:59] <exec> 08└─The early internet was make/remake and share how (and how not to..) These days, the "share" has moved to "what I ate/cooked/wore/didn't wear/went" Where is the make/build/repair? Maybe sciety as a whole is just thowing away and replacing.
[19:49:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:13] <exec> 08└─Well, maybe you're on to something. The attorney should have called the experts at NASA or the USPS instead.
[19:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:14] <exec> 08└─NASA has two law enforcement offices: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] But no, the correct answer was the local (city, county) or state police.
[19:49:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:16] <exec> 08└─Wow, choosing between mugshots...
[19:50:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 604 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:25] <exec> 08└─If you're going to automate your workload, put the extra effort in to make sure you don't get busted doing so. Don't write a script that does a month's work in ten minutes, write one with some sleeps in it that spreads the work out over the first 3/4 of every work day over the entire month. If you'r...
[19:50:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1516 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:42] <exec> 08└─Frankly, it's not much of a job if it has only a few duties that can all be automated. I've never held back in such circumstances. Anyone who is tempted to featherbed ought to ask themselves if that's what they really want their career to have been, should they manage to make it last. Yes, I know, j...
[19:50:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 2033 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:47] <exec> 08└─At an ex employer who shall remain nameless to protect the fucking stupid, I paid for & installed an automation software suite to help me do my job. (I was the PFY to my IT BOFH, but even the BOFH was only one rung on the corporate ladder than me the newbie.) Boss never noticed that I was running th...
[19:52:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Inside Information - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:52:05] <exec> 08└─Agreed - both are classic examples of JS-laden webshites.
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[20:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Secretive EU Copyright Negotiations Started Tuesday: Here’s Where We Stand - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:21] <exec> 08└─Not to give too much credence to a media industry that's full of totally avoidable shammery, but isn't a major part of what investigative journalism so dead because of the difficulty cultivating a paying audience in the internet era? Opinion is cheap, and gets enough clicks to pay for itself. Real n...
[20:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Secretive EU Copyright Negotiations Started Tuesday: Here’s Where We Stand - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:22] <exec> 08└─You further enhance your position as "local nutter". Who cares about upload filters? News is dead? Various sportsballs dead? Do you pay any attention to reality? Or do you just form your opinions based on internet discussions amongst angry trolls? The best I can grant you is that "sportsballs" are d...
[20:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:53] <exec> 08└─A good WYSIWYG editor would allow you to tie in several alternate rendering engines and switch between them at will.
[20:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:55] <exec> 08└─then load it in an actual browser
[20:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:57] <exec> 08└─I was once turned down for a web development job because, although I could configure the web server and hand-write HTML and CSS and Javascript and PHP and Perl and run a SQL database, I had never used Dreamweaver. The manager wanted someone who knew Dreamweaver and not someone who could learn it in...
[20:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:59] <exec> 08└─The last one I tried and tested a bit was BlueGriffon. At the time, it seemed like it was 100% free, but now it seems like they're seriously marketing the pay us for the software aspect. http://bluegriffon.org [bluegriffon.org]
[20:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:01] <exec> 08└─Well said. I believe Frontpage was explicitly catering to the desires of people who thought your first paragraph was a catalog of good ideas. Of course, Microsoft simplified the process of making their web pages look exactly like a Word document by only targeting IE, and heavily leveraging proprieta...
[20:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:04] <exec> 08└─Except you actually mean a bunch of different browsers, because there are sometimes major differences between how different browsers behave, e.g. some of them evaluate CSS in a different priority ordering.
[20:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:17] <exec> 08└─No large disagreements here. It is even arguable whether LGBT people are, in fact, "defects." One may construct compelling arguments that LGBT is a feature, not a bug. Additionally, LGBT seems to be a common phenomenon in all mammals. I hoped to keep it at a level a reactionary could understand. :-)
[20:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:19] <exec> 08└─As you suggest, Wealth is a state of mind; the poor have a poor state of mind.
[20:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:21] <exec> 08└─Mine said "No Collusion".
[20:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:23] <exec> 08└─No, I don't get it, Ms. Vim. You haven't answered any of my questions. How does your analysis account for a long list of female hereditary rulers [wikipedia.org]?
[20:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:25] <exec> 08└─That long list just emphasizes my point. Also, I don't know what "Ms. Vim" means.
[20:45:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:28] <exec> 08└─Somebody from your school of writing technique had argued that gender in the English language is reflective of whether something is special or not. That person was very convincing, and she also helped me to understand that anarcho-capitalism is a feasible but only after men have been eradicated. You...
[20:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:30] <exec> 08└─Hillary Clinton led a group demanding 50% women quotas. [wilsoncenter.org] The State Department funded this advocacy. Craig Newmark is the Craigslist guy. As for Farah Pandith, read these [8ch.net] two [8ch.net] threads.
[20:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:32] <exec> 08└─True, but in Dubai you have to ask for passports first, and only screw the slaves who got theirs taken away. Their justice is pretty swift if you seem to have slighted the true locals. And I'll take the weather/landscapes of just any other one on my list over Dubai ...
[20:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03iWantToKeepAnon [686] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:53] <exec> 08└─I clicked on the video expecting just a boxy cart w/o lots of sheetrock pre-loaded and some sort of "lifter friction belt" apparatus so the robot could go back and forth like an old dot matrix printer putting up walls in seconds. But that robot "lifting" drywall and nailing all human-esk-wise, maybe...
[20:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:54] <exec> 08└─So the sheetrock robot and the sex robot walked into a bar and got plastered.
[20:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:44] <exec> 08└─I think i can speak for the majority of people who are okay or like trump when i say its hard to have a civil war when i have work on monay.
[20:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:45] <exec> 08└─I was sleeping, and thought my apartment was burning down.
[20:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:48] <exec> 08└─I had not seen one in decades because I've been listening to music. So here mom and I are watching the news early in the morning, both of us in a stupour as we sip our day's first coffee. And an emergency broadcast test comes on. I thought the Commies had nuked Portland. A study found that people wh...
[20:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:50] <exec> 08└─Geez, no! Impeaching Trump (a lying opportunistic asshole) would saddle us with Pence (a fundamentalist religious nut).
[20:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:52] <exec> 08└─Yes, about four minutes apart
[20:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:54] <exec> 08└─There are countries where doing this would cause random explosions.
[20:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:56] <exec> 08└─In the US it just causes social media to blow up. If it wasn't for the novelty being the sole reason I'd say do it all the time.
[20:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:46] <exec> 08└─We are treating workers increasingly the same way: as cheap and disposable. The use it and toss it mentality is all-pervasive.
[20:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:47] <exec> 08└─OK. I have turned on the Vomit theme, just to see how long I can stand it. Not long, it turns out. Oh gods, I hope I can remember how to turn it off.
[20:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Most of Waymo's LIDAR Patent Rejected by USPTO Following Challenge - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:00] <exec> 08└─In the early days that was often held up as an abuse of software patents. I was taught to use XOR cursors in the Spring of 1984. When was it patented?
[20:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:39] <exec> 08└─Amazon won a Supreme Court case in which its warehouse employees petitioned to be paid for the time they spend waiting to be searched each day on their way out.
[20:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:41] <exec> 08└─-y getting by" I regard that as a good thing. To put marginal businesses under frees up their resources so they may be used for more profitable activities. It's just like firing an alcoholic employee such as Judge Kavanaugh: the only time an alcoholic will of their own free will give up the bottle i...
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[20:48:43] <exec> 08└─Is that why the US invaded Siberia shortly after the Russian Revolution?
[20:49:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:09] <exec> 08└─According to the Second Amendment enthusiasts: Rugged Individualism, not collectivist "programs" such as the Apollo.
[20:49:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:10] <exec> 08└─What I read on OregonLive was that he was accused of Elder Abuse.
[20:49:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:38] <exec> 08└─Naked Lunch by William Burroughs I have not yet had the intestinal fortitude to actually read it. After killing his own wife while drunkenly clowning around with his gun, Burroughs fled to Tunisia, where he got hooked on heroin, eventually to hallucinate giant bugs on his typewriter that jizz volumi...
[20:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 1194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:05] <exec> 08└─Kuro5hin's Del Griffith repeatedly ridiculed me for not automating Soggy Jobs in any way. The reason I didn't was that putting it in a database would not help in any significant way. How do I find software companies in Portland? To be able to list them on the site more productively would not have ma...
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[21:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:53] <exec> 08└─This is what happens when you young d(_)che bags graduate college, and all you know is some toy language like Python, Java, C#, or Ruby. You think they're awesome because they're easy. I think they're crap because then I'm forced to work with you, and you can't write deterministic code to save your...
[21:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:54] <exec> 08└─Too many times software gets changed from what is useful and works to something far less useful, if at all, and often more unstable as well. Especially when they try to force software for the desktop into being software for a phone.
[21:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:56] <exec> 08└─... were what I was complaining about 15 years ago. His happy memories of efficient well-designed code are to me still relative annoyances. I'm (re)writing back-end stuff for a webby thing, which I have deliberately decided to host the dev version of on a 700MHz 32-bit Model B RasPi, so that I do no...
[21:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:43] <exec> 08└─https://grapedrop.com [grapedrop.com] check your boxes
[21:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:44] <exec> 08└─If you don't bother with the WYSIWYG features in Dreamweaver, it's basically a text editor with a built-in FTP client. You could have just lied.
[21:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:46] <exec> 08└─what is your preferred method of dealing with either HTML or CSS or both?
[21:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:48] <exec> 08└─Brackets has a Windows version, so you could run it there too.
[21:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:50] <exec> 08└─I think the answer the author of the article is looking for (minus the "offline" requirement) is a blogging engine. They should write blogs on Medium or WordPress. As others have mentioned here, for anything more complicated than a blog article, a WYSWIG web editor introduces more complications than...
[21:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:53] <exec> 08└─Are you me? Similar experience, what made it more amusing in my case was that at one point in time there were 200 web servers in the UK, I ran five of them and set up 4 of the others and updated content, created graphics etc. on all of them..so one way or another in the early 90's I was responsible...
[21:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:55] <exec> 08└─A designer is a delusional being that insists on spending thousands on specially calibrated monitors and office lighting so they can produce an ad slick that looks exactly what they see on their screen. All so I can see it entirely differently anyway because I'm reading it while wearing tinted glass...
[21:45:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 791 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:54] <exec> 08└─Which explains why several states explicitly listed slavery as a reason for attempting secession, no? Hmm, you made an interesting class-based point, though: most southern whites weren't slaveowners. It was a minority. A wealthy minority, who of course wanted the slavery gravy train to continue, and...
[21:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:15] <exec> 08└─The only reason they are of note is because they were the exception; the fact that they represent an exception proves the rule I've outlined. Put another way, you're arguing that I should have written "almost invariably" rather than "invariably". So what? Obviously, their exceptional positions deriv...
[21:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:16] <exec> 08└─My comment above has been modded troll, which is fair but ignores the point I was raising. Rhetorically: Are we legislatively discriminating on the basis of gender identity or biological sex in the name of equality today? One of these options renders the law ridiculous. All else aside, there's a dif...
[21:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:18] <exec> 08└─Are we legislatively discriminating on the basis of gender identity or biological sex in the name of equality today?
[21:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:21] <exec> 08└─Obviously, their exceptional positions derive from their economic pedigree; their families were wealthy enough to afford preparing them for such a role
[21:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:25] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you're joking or not, but that is what happens.
[21:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:52] <exec> 08└─Rodvelt had previously been charged with unlawful possession of explosives
[21:49:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:53] <exec> 08└─Richard Gregory Bauer, 28, a former contractor at NASA Armstrong Flight Research Center, and who used several aliases including “Steve Smith,” “John Smith,” and “Garret,” was arrested by special agents with NASA’s Office of Inspector General.
[21:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:55] <exec> 08└─Ditto. Urza pointed out that there is a missing part to this story. How, and why, was the government kicking this old man out of his property in the first place? If it were bankers, and he booby trapped the property, while telling everyone it was booby trapped, then I have little sympathy for govern...
[21:50:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:50:48] <exec> 08└─My comment was based on something I read about 30 years ago. It was an article about violent right and left wing groups at the time in Europe. There were left wing groups like the German RAF, which targeted specific politicians and CEO's of the biggest corporations. On the other hand there were righ...
[21:51:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 2374 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:39] <exec> 08└─I was hired as a contractor at a three-letter company almost 20 years ago. The job was to replace a hard-working employee who, in recognization of her years of said hard work, was being promoted and moved to a position overseas (her native country, it was implied). I supposedly had two weeks to lear...
[21:51:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:55] <exec> 08└─My predecessor was heavily into shell scripting but got fired when our manager noticed that I happily did all the hard work myself, whereas what at first was my coworker, then my predecessor, always hired expensive consultants to come in for such hardware work as installing a new VME card into one o...
[21:51:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:57] <exec> 08└─And I repeat myself: why do we need so much memory today to earn our keep? In 1992 the code I wrote on an 8 MB 68030 grossed three million dollars. Now I have a 2-core i5, a 4-core i7 and a total of 24 GB RAM, 3 TB disk yet I can barely feed myself. Surely I'm missing something.
[21:51:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:59] <exec> 08└─Their manager now gets the same amount of work done with fewer people, making them "more productive", and they get a bonus meaning more compensation. But the original programmer who actually wrote the code is still stuck eating Ramen Noodles every night because they no longer have a job.
[21:52:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:52:01] <exec> 08└─Considering the 40-hour workweek that 'salaried' employees are paid for, they're are supposed to work until they get 'their work' done whether they work 1.25-2x 2080 hours in a work-year, or all of 10 minutes. You could argue that both or neither are ethical, if not 'work-ethic'-al. If you weight th...
[21:52:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Programming Your Own Job Out of Existence - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:52:03] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure how long she'd been doing it, but at least for several years, she'd spent her time doing office politics to get the job overseas she'd wanted, rather than moving files.
[21:53:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] 02 - 06CRISPR Could be Used to Transform the "Ground Cherry" Into a Crop for Farmers - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:38] <exec> 08└─RoundUp kills _every_ form of plant life that it comes into contact with...
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[22:44:09] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 2818 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:10] <exec> 08└─These kinds of problems are absolutely nothing new in the field: Fred Brooks was writing about them decades ago, and they're just as true now as they were then. And he's right: Software today is largely a big bloated barely-functioning mess. And there's no simple method to eliminate the problems, be...
[22:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 961 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:11] <exec> 08└─He (or at least TFS) missed another. OS vendors are rotting perfectly good software — from the outside — by breaking APIs. They're also not fixing bugs X,Y... in the OS's they've already published, preferring instead to create new OS versions that often leave older machines un-upgradable with ne...
[22:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:13] <exec> 08└─And that sort of elitist attitude is just as much part of the problem. You were young and fresh out of education (self or formal) at some point. You had no clue but didn't know it. We all were. And slowly or quickly we all got better. Rather than being the guy who knows a lot but doesn't share and l...
[22:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:15] <exec> 08└─Back in the 80s we were saying the same thing. Microsoft was notorious for releasing software that would run well on hardware released 2 years later. All I have to do is monitor a modern webpage as it downloads the latest cat I Kan Haz Cheezburger 34 kb jpg picture. Typically well over a meg for 1 s...
[22:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:18] <exec> 08└─You probably love systemd.
[22:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:20] <exec> 08└─Oh God! Been around software development for many years, since '87 or thereabouts. Seen a lot in that time, in no particular order: HP-UX, Xenix, AS/400, CPM, MS-DOS, OS/2, Windows. And the more I see, the crappier things seem. My particular beef is with software updates being mostly messing around...
[22:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:22] <exec> 08└─Why software is so bad [technologyreview.com]. Also, long rant covering everything from bad code to women in IT, written by a guy who sounds like a few people here on SN: What is code [bloomberg.com].
[22:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:24] <exec> 08└─I want a simple OS that I control with simple applications that do their tasks fast and without trying to "help" me.
[22:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:26] <exec> 08└─Obviously you love the regular D
[22:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:28] <exec> 08└─I think his point is that millennials leave school without the tools required to be good programmers. Rather than learning deterministic coding, they spend their time taking gender studies courses. The end result is Ruby on Rails.
[22:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, he has discovered what we all discover and it is related to goid old Human Nature. Most people, whatever their role like to go with the flow, adopt the path of least resistance. It's basic thermodynamics. As a grey beard once told me, what works doesn't change but what it's called does. When I...
[22:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 3024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:33] <exec> 08└─Seriously, the bloat is out of hand. Compare Lotus SmartSuite on Win 3.1 to LibreOffice now. Both are full GUI programs with embedding, truetype fonts, bitmap and vector images, etc. Both have word processor, spreadsheet, presentaions, and the usual things one expects. Either would would be perfectl...
[22:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Secretive EU Copyright Negotiations Started Tuesday: Here’s Where We Stand - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:45] <exec> 08└─You further enhance your position as "local nutter".
[22:45:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:33] <exec> 08└─But yeah - if you write semantically clear HTML, or templates, then you should be able to compose them - knowing what they will look like - as plain text in dum-dum-dahhhh - whatever text editor you're happiest editing in. If it doesn't look correct, your CSS and your HTML should be simple enough to...
[22:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:34] <exec> 08└─I think the answer the author of the article is looking for (minus the "offline" requirement) is a blogging engine. They should write blogs on Medium or WordPress.
[22:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:02] <exec> 08└─I marked it sarcastic to avoid being modded "troll". SN doesn't always have a sense of humor.
[22:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:03] <exec> 08└─Hillary Clinton led a group demanding 50% women quotas.
[22:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:05] <exec> 08└─Yes. Legislating on the basis of something as vague as biological sex is ridiculous.
[22:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:07] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of L/G/B in all branches of the animal kingdom where the concept could possibly make sense. However, your assertion of T being found would require some citations, and some less ambiguous definitions of T than the extremely nebulous one in common use (which is pretty much defined by it...
[22:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:31] <exec> 08└─Sheetrock robot went mad. Everything *but* the sheetrcok robot got plastered.
[22:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:32] <exec> 08└─its hard to have a civil war when i have work on monay.
[22:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:34] <exec> 08└─Probably more than you wanted to know.
[22:50:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:26] <exec> 08└─The inflation will become the tax for the rich, it doesn't matter how well they hide their money overseas.
[22:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SoylentNews Book Club: October 2018 - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:24] <exec> 08└─Manna I only read the first chapter years ago, but I heard about it from slashdot and/or here. http://marshallbrain.com [marshallbrain.com]
[22:53:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:53:28] <exec> 08└─If you count Pluto, you have to count Ceres at #5
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[23:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Controversy Over ISS Leak Continues, Spacewalk Planned for November - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:12] <exec> 08└─The leak is slow enough to be safe, but fast enough to vent a fart. One of the Russians has a digestion issue. He doesn't want to piss off his coworkers. He figured that he could save farts in condoms, then take them over to the hole for disposal. Unfortunately for him, the hole was not quite small...
[23:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Controversy Over ISS Leak Continues, Spacewalk Planned for November - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:13] <exec> 08└─The spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers! Leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are. Find the leakers. They will be caught!
[23:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Controversy Over ISS Leak Continues, Spacewalk Planned for November - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:15] <exec> 08└─He wasn't close to a bathroom, so he effectively pissed behind a barn.
[23:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:39] <exec> 08└─OS vendors are rotting perfectly good software — from the outside — by breaking APIs.
[23:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:40] <exec> 08└─In the old days, hardware was far more expensive than the programmers that wrote the software, so you had to make every byte count. Now, the cost of developers is significantly more than the cost of the hardware, which means the focus is now about how to make developers produce the fastest. Anything...
[23:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:42] <exec> 08└─Actively developed SW can be insulated against API changes
[23:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:44] <exec> 08└─That, and the fact that all those fancy coders must have the latest, fastest hardware to play with. I bet a lot of them never even realize that most of the world is using dated hardware.
[23:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06On Disenchantment with the Current State of Software Development - 1609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:47] <exec> 08└─Missed another. You explained why Open Source and FOSS will eventually take over nearly all software. What you missed also explains why Open Source and FOSS will rule software forever. SECURITY. We are now reaping what we sowed. There is about 1% of the knowledgeable (referred to as one percenters)...
[23:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Secretive EU Copyright Negotiations Started Tuesday: Here’s Where We Stand - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:59] <exec> 08└─ANYTIME government has secret negotiations that affect regulations and policies, especially concerning our speech and expressions, they have abjectly failed. I can't help but remember The Animal Farm and how "those who walked on two legs" became privileged. That's what this is, the ruling and politi...
[23:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:48] <exec> 08└─Is slowly dying.. Its all part of the plan tho...
[23:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Offline WYSIWYG in 2018 - A Dying Breed - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:50] <exec> 08└─Tried the "simple demo" got a blank page, apparently it can't handle an environment without javascript. Oh well...
[23:46:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 40 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:31] <exec> 08└─Let's take this to its absurd conclusion
[23:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:24] <exec> 08└─A woman is inherently valuable for the fact that she can bear children, and she's inherently invaluable because of her relative physical weakness; if you're going to spend resources building an educated mind and a productive body, it's best to spend it on males, who are otherwise pretty worthless. T...
[23:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:26] <exec> 08└─the roots of what is called "the patriarchy" are as much or more based on class than on sex or gender
[23:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:28] <exec> 08└─My comment above has been modded troll
[23:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:30] <exec> 08└─Hire who is qualified. End of story.
[23:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:32] <exec> 08└─But as Taleb (and even Plato, to some approximation) says, the majority, who are prepared to buckle at these impositions, have a tendency to adopt such policies. The minority are actually the tyrannical ones. By pure coincidence (honest, 'guv), I anagrammed Taleb's name for this concept only earlier...
[23:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:34] <exec> 08└─Can someone please send them Damores homework for the diversity class at Google?
[23:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:36] <exec> 08└─You would think, but other states get away with crap like this all the time. It may be unconstitutional, but until it goes to the SCOTUS, it stands as law and gets enforced.
[23:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:39] <exec> 08└─Who freed the slaves? Straight white men.Who gave women the vote? Straight white men.Who desegregated the nation? Straight white men.Who instituted affirmative action? Straight white men.
[23:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:41] <exec> 08└─What makes you think that men had the vote during that time? Learn some freaking history, please.
[23:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:43] <exec> 08└─As a public official, he's undoubtedly sworn an oath to uphold the state and federal constitutions. Thus, he should be impeached for breach of oath.
[23:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:45] <exec> 08└─You're telling me that eight-year-olds getting abused and maimed in factories is good for society? Go to Hell. Seriously, go to Hell, and reincarnate in Pakistan somewhere as a kid working in a garment factory. There's your "good for society."
[23:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:47] <exec> 08└─I randomly insulted a bunch of moonbeam stasi of which you, randomfactor are a member?
[23:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:49] <exec> 08└─Excuse me?! No, I did not suggest any such thing. Stop putting words in my mouth and stop trying to turn me into a voice for whatever insane laissez-faire gibbertarian gibberish you're pushing.
[23:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06California Law Requires Women on the Boards of Companies Headquartered in the State - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:52] <exec> 08└─According to evolution and nature I am definitely a defect. What's the point in all those resources going to a womb that's never going to bear children? From the PoV of my genes I may as well already be 90 years old with advanced Alzheimer's. Fortunately, as I said before, intelligence means we can...
[23:48:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japan's AIST Construction Robot Can Install Drywall - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:17] <exec> 08└─Japan's population is getting older, with fewer builders. https://www.statista.com [statista.com] Building, rebuilding and remodelling require builders. Also, this is Japan - robots are cool. And, they tend to rebuild alot: https://www.theguar...
[23:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What to Expect From the U.S. Wireless Emergency Alert Test Today - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:20] <exec> 08└─how about people that watch fox news? is there a statistic about that? there are too many other liberal agendas to measure so I thought maybe we can just focus on one of them for now.
[23:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:44] <exec> 08└─Go read about it. I can't help if you're mind is made up.
[23:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:45] <exec> 08└─Another compelling landmark is the Richat Structure in western Africa. It's super-easy to find when you're looking in from space and seems to be about the right size for Atlantis, including what look like concentric rings.
[23:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Humans Didn’t Speed Up the Drying of the Sahara, and in Fact They May Have Delayed It - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:48] <exec> 08└─I've always wondered if it's inevitable that a few selfish actors will always ruin a commons.
[23:50:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06GeoCities Dies in March 2019, and with it a Piece of Internet History - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:50:20] <exec> 08└─Pay a few billion then shut it down. Tee hee, math is hard!
[23:51:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:21] <exec> 08└─Have you tried printing more money instead and giving it to the poor?
[23:51:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:23] <exec> 08└─That's not why inflation exists. Since the governments took all the money fiat, it's all about being able to finance deficit spending. That people other than the government can do the same is just a side-effect.
[23:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Amazon Announces $15 Minimum Wage for All of its U.S. Employees - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:25] <exec> 08└─Its purpose is to keep money from being hoarded rather than invested at all levels of income.
[23:51:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Agent Injured by Shotgun Attached to Booby-Trapped Wheelchair in an Oregon Home - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:59] <exec> 08└─elderberries?
[23:52:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ricin Found in Mail Addressed to the U.S. Secretary of Defense and the Chief of Naval Operations - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:52:58] <exec> 08└─Coincidentally, a federal judge just ruled that a white supremacist with plans for a ricin attack can walk free. [mydaytondailynews.com] A north Georgia white supremacist arrested last year for alleged possession of the deadly toxin ricin is no longer facing federal charges after a judge dismissed t...
[23:54:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06High Perihelion Trans-Neptunian Object Added to Cluster of "Planet Nine" Influenced Orbits - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:33] <exec> 08└─Sure, the order is arbitrary. Current distance, average distance, discovery, whatever... The main point being that we're clearly not looking for Planet 9 or 10. We have lots of planets. We have 8 Major planets, or 4 Major Rocky/Inner Planets and 4 Gas Giants/Outer Planets, plus a whole lot of smalle...
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