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[00:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:16] <exec> 08└─If I wanted telemetry, I'd use Microsoft Edge.
[00:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:17] <exec> 08└─Agreed. This makes me want to check up on all my Mozilla based applications. WTF? None of my activity is any of Mozilla's business.
[00:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:19] <exec> 08└─Don't like your things phoning home all the time? Time travel back to 1990 you dinosaur. Go see Madonna in concert while you're back there. Oh right you can't go see Madonna because your Pope told you not to attend that concert tour. Too bad she touched herself onstage right?
[00:44:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:44] <exec> 08└─Typically, the idea of these devices is that the secrets are known only to the device, they include some modicum of physical tamper protection, and self-destruct on any failure. Usually that includes failing to correctly the PIN more than a certain number of times consecutively. This is essentially...
[00:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:44:45] <exec> 08└─It could just be a simple four-digit PIN. But if you enter the wrong PIN more than a few times, the Librem Key self-destructs all the secrets it holds. So who cares if it's only 13.3 or so bits of entropy, you still can't brute force the PIN unless there's a critical security flaw in the Key itself.
[00:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Sound of Pixels - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:02] <exec> 08└─I feel like what was missing (didn't RTFA, but did WTFV) is picking out the sound of a person talking and isolate that. Even if all it did was drown out background noise, then we'd have a winner. Adding in existing filtering technologies, and we're talking not just about a potentially profitable pro...
[00:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Sound of Pixels - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:04] <exec> 08└─If I could take a YouTube video and remove the annoying music playing too loudly over the person talking that would be great. Or take a TV show or movie and cut the volume of the music and sound effects, and boost the dialogue so I can actually understand what's being said.
[00:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:54] <exec> 08└─Bowing to organized pressure by leftists isn't exactly captialism at work;
[00:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:45:55] <exec> 08└─You bloody progressive you! Putting a positive spin on the things, pushing your own agenda and spreading a bias? (VERY LARGE GRIN)
[00:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:02] <exec> 08└─There is no such thing as devolution. There is only evolving to fit the current environment. If that results in the loss of features, then the features were redundant. If it results in less complexity, then the complexity is unnecessary. TMB is also wrong when he says they evolved for a reason. Ther...
[00:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:50] <exec> 08└─I think the next recession will be a very normal, boring recession with no accompanying bubble. You get one of those every 10-15 years, just the normal business cycle.
[00:47:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 1449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:47:51] <exec> 08└─> Until they are unpersoned for being old I seriously suspect one of the motivations for age discrimination is that young workers lack experience to have a good feel for when too much is being asked of them. They'll shut down their social lifes, won't have any significant others to hang with or kids...
[00:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06White House Considering Launching an Antitrust Probe on Google and Facebook - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:49:29] <exec> 08└─I cannot think of a single point in time where Microsoft made it impossible, or even very difficult, to run a third party browser on Windows. That's more of an Apple thing, on iOS.
[00:52:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota Will Reportedly Adopt Android Auto - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:52:02] <exec> 08└─Wife and three kids fit in the car fine. I got the sport model primarily for the dual clutch transmission, and it was in stock in the electric blue color I wanted. The color is actually a big deal; people don't notice grey-scale cars around here (black, grey, white, silver), especially in the rain,...
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[01:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:16] <exec> 08└─You must be Catholic. You should realize that 3/4 of the world doesn't give the smallest damn about any pope. I'm part of that 3/4, thank you very much. Normal people simply don't think about anything the pope says or does - it's beneath our notice.
[01:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:17] <exec> 08└─Who needs a pope? Allah is my co-pilot. *boots Tor*
[01:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:19] <exec> 08└─Whoosh much? Pope John Paul II told Catholics to boycott the Blonde Ambition World Tour in 1990 because Madonna simulated masturbation during her performance of Like A Virgin. That was back when we got our news from a TV screen instead of a computer screen. Did you not see the news or do you not rem...
[01:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:21] <exec> 08└─well... no, that's a stupid expectation unless you mean: retarded people from marketing want their noses on people's shit all the time
[01:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:23] <exec> 08└─Don't you want to get updates automatically? How else will you keep up with the new emojis trending this week?
[01:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:26] <exec> 08└─You'd think TBB developers would be the kind of people with an eye for this sort of thing. How did this make it to end users? I really don't get it. Are most people in the world just half sentient?
[01:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:29] <exec> 08└─Not enough Low Quality Assurance, that's the problem. Tor Project should contract Soggy Quality to do all their testing and quality audits. Michael David Crawford has an army of soggy teenage girls fresh out of the showers and eager to get to work finding issues just like this one.
[01:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:31] <exec> 08└─Whooshing right back at you. We kinda sorta noticed the pope's edict, in the same manner in which we noted that some politician claimed to be the inventor of the internets. And, that's almost the same notice taken of some blonde skank performing obscene stunts on stage in front of audiences of brain...
[01:44:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:42] <exec> 08└─They were seized by the retailer's landlords after NCIX failed to pay CA$150,000 in rent
[01:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:13] <exec> 08└─"Fairly Unbalanced", sort of like "round the bend", or "off kilter", batshit rabid republican insane, or Mike Judge Jennine Pirrogie Faux News insane, brought to you by Rupert.
[01:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:14] <exec> 08└─The parties are basically indistinguishable -- both are war like, both are spendthrifts, neither really cares about civil liberties or average people, etc. etc. The venn diagram of Republicans vs. Democrats is so close to being a circle, you need lab quality instruments to see where they diverge.
[01:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:16] <exec> 08└─It fills the last three people in the US who didn't know Google was full of radical progressives in on the fact. That's about it. They've got every right in the world to do whatever they like with their search engine. They own it and a monopoly argument for regulation would be patently absurd. Trans...
[01:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:18] <exec> 08└─"Mother Jones" the magazine would make the real Mother Jones grab a club and raise hell in the main office. MJ magazine has become a corporate democrat mouthpiece carpet bagging on the good reputation of real radical.
[01:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:21] <exec> 08└─"What is the user trying to find" vs. "What do we want the user to find". Adjusting for the former is what users want. Adjusting for the latter will piss them off. I'm amazed you couldn't figure this out on your own. You usually speak like you've put at least some thought into $the_matter.
[01:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:46:23] <exec> 08└─I used to let those slide, but I'm pretty sure paying attention for the last 4 years would show some significant differences in many places which matter, starting with Net Neutrality and business-worship stance, on top of the expected social issues. Or maybe you need your lab instruments to find you...
[01:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 2294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:32] <exec> 08└─"why review and censor at all? " Moderating used to be voluntary. It used to be that if you were clueless you used AOL, and they did the commercial moderating to keep you happy and safe, while content on usenet and link indexes (before search engines) were done by volunteer curators much like wikipe...
[01:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:33] <exec> 08└─Topic: Facebook. GP: Why censor? You: nobody wants to swim in shit (i.e., FB would die). Me: suddenly realizes why grossest nastiest trolls are of great valuable.
[01:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:36] <exec> 08└─You're quite correct. My bad. s/evolved/thrived after evolving/
[01:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:38] <exec> 08└─Because nobody wants to swim in the pool that someone keeps shitting in.
[01:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:30] <exec> 08└─Or a fifteen-minute walk, if it's a mile (assuming there's a walking route from there). Why would you bother driving if you're only going a mile?
[01:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:48:31] <exec> 08└─Full on, below the footer of the basement installation on three sides (4th side is entirely sloping downhill and mostly paved). The dog was boned quite well when this place was built. It's amazing it hasn't fallen in yet.
[01:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:22] <exec> 08└─Those sound good. I've been unfairly biased against nooch since my ex swore by the stuff and hurr hurr guilt by association, but a keto-friendly cracker sounds amazing. Ditto the chocolate bars. And I'm all about DIY; I made a desk and a bedframe this past month, after a friend who'd already done it...
[01:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:24] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but a ketogenic chocolate "treat" sounds really hard to like - bitter and oily? Maybe the cocoa & lipid energy rush afterwards could teach you to like it. Of course, I'm so carb-addicted that I find it difficult to stop sucking down a glass of fruit juice after I start drinking it when my blo...
[01:50:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score: 2) 02 - 06White House Considering Launching an Antitrust Probe on Google and Facebook - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:50:13] <exec> 08└─So, just how did Micro$haft survive. They should have been split, and we now have the largest monopoly in the history of the planet.
[01:52:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Toyota Will Reportedly Adopt Android Auto - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:52:48] <exec> 08└─My apologies, I meant "Why would he need...". Otherwise, the "people don't notice grey-scale" is quite an interesting bit. My experience: considering the downunder sun, I went with a white one. The fact that I have to deal less frequent with congestion didn't raised the "be noticeable" problem to me...
[01:54:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Who are the Largest Employers in the World? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:54:13] <exec> 08└─Title Case. I know most newsholes don't do that anymore, at least online, but it was once a thing.
[01:54:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Who are the Largest Employers in the World? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:54:14] <exec> 08└─The PLA is also quite different from the DoD. The PLA owns and runs a lot of companies and industrial concerns, so that's not 2.3M people in uniform, that's a combined 2.3M in uniform, in factories, in offices, on production lines, ...
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[02:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:54] <exec> 08└─Apple vs. Qualcomm FIGHT!
[02:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:14] <exec> 08└─Somehow Mozilla not being ran by autists wasn't a giant red flag.
[02:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:23] <exec> 08└─Would selling the card carbons seized from a brick&mortar have been legal?
[02:44:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:41] <exec> 08└─Yup. Look at the Nitrokey link, it IS the same thing, Nitro's product even says it also unlocks a Purism laptop. Looks like they worked on it together and will both be selling it with different logos silk screened onto the case. And for all the Open Source happy talk, neither says what sort of hardw...
[02:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03WolvesOfTheNight [4704] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:46:21] <exec> 08└─What I'd really like is a way to sense when ice is starting
[02:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:47:11] <exec> 08└─You remember that the internet has a bunch of pipes or maybe tubes, right? And just like most swimming pools are connected through pipes that all touch the same ocean, chat rooms and websites are connected like that. Just because somebody shits in one, it doesn't mean the rest are contaminated. But...
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[02:48:00] <exec> 08└─> Until they are unpersoned for being old I seriously suspect one of the motivations for age discrimination is that young workers lack experience to have a good feel for when too much is being asked of them. They'll shut down their social lifes, won't have any significant others to hang with or kids...
[02:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:03] <exec> 08└─Small towns not right next to major cities all across the nation. This particular one is in Humboldt, TN.
[02:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:55] <exec> 08└─OMG someone else than me likes this! I got soooo many weird looks asking for that...
[02:48:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:57] <exec> 08└─They're functionally crippling after decades of heavy-ish daily consumption. Not migraines, just extremely painful headaches. Even without side effects, I still wouldn't be motivated to quit though. Most all stimulants help with ADHD.
[02:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:59] <exec> 08└─I knew you were my kind of girl! And my mother never warned me! Well, actually, maybe anchovies and pineapple is a feminine-origin thing -- I learned it from my wife, who is also my kind of girl. -- hendrik
[02:49:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:49:01] <exec> 08└─Hold on, now. Are we talking about Chicago-style, or New York-style? The former could be called a pie
[02:51:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opinion: Let Teenagers Sleep In - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:51:55] <exec> 08└─They more or less are by definition if not in practice. Conservatives' fundamental characteristic is wanting things to change as little as possible. That includes the environment.
[02:51:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Opinion: Let Teenagers Sleep In - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:51:56] <exec> 08└─Conservatives' fundamental characteristic is wanting things to change as little as possible.
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[03:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:17] <exec> 08└─We should bring back trial by combat for top brass (only).
[03:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:19] <exec> 08└─One thing for sure, the lawyers are going to win this one. Too bad the contestants didn't decide up front to settle their dispute with something simpler (and more fun to watch) than the legal system.
[03:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:42] <exec> 08└─The latest visual studio update came with 7.6 GB of emoji support.
[03:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:43] <exec> 08└─You'd think TBB developers would be the kind of people with an eye for this sort of thing.
[03:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:28] <exec> 08└─Nobody seemed to be able to compare the GWB to Obama terms, you know where Obama expanded all the wars, catfood commission (thank goodness the GOP wouldn't work with him), making 82% of the Bush tax cuts permanent, opposing a ban on cluster bombs, due process free execution based on secret legal mem...
[03:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:55] <exec> 08└─It is even easier than that. All you need to do is measure the temp of the cool side of the system. The system will start to warm because of the insanely large amount of energy required for the deposition of the water vapor. Once it cools again, the layer of ice has built up enough to insulate the s...
[03:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03toddestan [4982] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:35] <exec> 08└─Doesn't look much like a shotgun house to me, unless you mean something completely different. What I've known as a shotgun house is a house that is usually found only in the south, and are long skinny houses with the rooms laid out sequentially - i.e. no hallway, so to go from the front (usually the...
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[04:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:19] <exec> 08└─The project has drawn some criticism and confusion from scientists who question the value of adding what they see as impractical items to Earth's orbit. "It's the space equivalent of someone putting a neon advertising billboard right outside your bedroom window," Jonathan McDowell, an astrophysicist...
[04:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:21] <exec> 08└─If only there were scientists who could educate this first group that the value of things isn't just in the observations, numbers, and evidence -- it's in the non-measurable, external, and emotional responses to putting shiny crap in space
[04:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:23] <exec> 08└─Yes, because everyone becoming a Brand Ambassador is what has left IT (previously an engineering discipline) so productive, mature and yielding such consistently high quality results, industry-wide.
[04:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:25] <exec> 08└─Ok, so I'll buy the premise that we should consider that perhaps space is different from out planet and that there won't be a power struggle to control every square inch that could be. No religious wars, no technical wars... Man, space is just free!!!!!!! Like, peace man, it's just art! Sure. Ain't...
[04:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:43:58] <exec> 08└─We've repeatedly heard about Firefox integrating Tor into the main browser [soylentnews.org]. If you think things are bad now...
[04:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:00] <exec> 08└─Getting ready for the ultimate Tor-browser integration [soylentnews.org]?
[04:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:02] <exec> 08└─Shit like this can ONLY be managed by an expert. Mozilla will NEVER be able to put out secure software.
[04:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:04] <exec> 08└─Mozilla is (probably) on the side of the NSA, what did you expect? There are lots of vulnerabilities in Firefox. I suspect many are intentional.
[04:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:44:16] <exec> 08└─Perhaps not because the intent is obvious. However selling the full dumpsters and waste paper baskets would probably be legal.
[04:45:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 406 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:45:12] <exec> 08└─Bowing to organized pressure by leftists isn't exactly captialism at work; those sites have been happy to let Jones continue to wildly violate their ToS for years, until an organized campaign brought attention to his specific misbehaviors. That's definitely the spin left-leaning people put on it, th...
[04:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03WolvesOfTheNight [4704] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:46:17] <exec> 08└─Yea, under these circumstances, that probably is a better way.
[04:50:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Privacy Concerns Flare Over Latest Chrome Browser’s ‘Forced Login’ - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:16] <exec> 08└─If you ever find that you don't like the way something looks. Try looking for a UI plugin/extension. Not updating is a security issue. I remember you being an apple person. Here you go: http://osxdaily.com [osxdaily.com] PS: always update!
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[05:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Interstellar Asteroid 'Oumuamua Tracked to Four Possible Origin Star Systems - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:17] <exec> 08└─...the outgassing is too large to be ignored.
[05:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Interstellar Asteroid 'Oumuamua Tracked to Four Possible Origin Star Systems - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:19] <exec> 08└─http://starshiptroopers.wikia.com/wiki/Bug_Meteor [wikia.com]
[05:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:30] <exec> 08└─... man-made climate change, or the idea that we can do anything about it (or should) becomes increasingly suspicious.
[05:44:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:32] <exec> 08└─Who are these scientists who think they own the night fucking sky? It's no so clear that studying the flow of nebular gases, you know, because reasons, is more important that putting a smile on millions of people's faces and thereby inspiring young, inquisitive minds to look up into the sky, where t...
[05:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:44:34] <exec> 08└─Uh, oh. Almost lost my sense of humor after the first line. An excellent troll, good sir, if I may say so.
[05:45:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:45:11] <exec> 08└─I'm still hearing that wooshing sound over here. I've tried adjusting the sound on my computer, but no good. So we have a bit of drama in 1990 (ignoring that I wasn't listening to Madonna, the Pope, or TV at the time). What would be any different about the drama today? I don't see it playing out an...
[05:46:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:46:28] <exec> 08└─Which conservatives? The ones who call themselves Republicans or the ones who call themselves Democrats?
[05:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:01] <exec> 08└─Yeah so that makes the lefties actually from the right-wing, right? It is like right-wing lunatics are now claiming to be leftists. Is it not?? Pick a fucking side of an argument. But it is simply better to jump on the side of power, isn't it?
[05:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:02] <exec> 08└─reddit's leaking
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[06:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:11] <exec> 08└─Space Force Advertising! Only the best and most fantastic Orbital Branding and Advertising! Apply now to have your product featured on the Trump Full Live-Motion Billboard in Space! Bigger than Times Square! See by more Earthlings! But, we are opposed to the whole "globalization" thing, and we wan...
[06:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:12] <exec> 08└─Thank you very much, ~black6host. I appreciate it. You think like my Generals. Not General Assembly losers & haters. We're putting a Sword in the Sky. Space Sword. The biggest one. Because it's gonna be the only one. Beautiful sword, perfect size. Believe me, there's no problem there. We'll be the o...
[06:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:27] <exec> 08└─Intel and nvidia have been annoying people by using shady tactics rather than producing a good product for awhile...
[06:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:58] <exec> 08└─So you think wanting privacy is something inherently conservative?
[06:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:29] <exec> 08└─critical security flaw in the Key itself.
[06:46:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:46:01] <exec> 08└─People react to news that went around the world. Check whether they could contribute. Decide not to take action. How is that news ?
[06:46:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 1212 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:46:16] <exec> 08└─I remember SEO scammer manipulators that would game Google's search algorithm. Google would tweak their algorithm to not be manipulated and send all SEO pages to the bottom where they belong. So "Search King" sued. Google argued, and court agreed that search results are Google's opinion about what G...
[06:48:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aim [6322] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tiny House in Palo Alto, California Goes on the Market with a Big Price Tag of $2.59 Million - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:48:58] <exec> 08└─Come have a look at prices in Luxembourg (the Grand Duchy of), then we'll talk again. Those 2.5mil sound about right for close to the center of Luxembourg City - most for the grounds alone, the house being more of a hindrance to be torn down and replaced by a modern energy-efficient building (which...
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[07:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:59] <exec> 08└─... WHO: 3 million people killed themselves, and 3 million people killed other people, due to lack of alcohol.
[07:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:01] <exec> 08└─So, they left out the Russians, then?
[07:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:03] <exec> 08└─Sounds like they included any death six degrees of alcohol. It sounds like gun death stats, dude crashes bike while carrying, gun related death.
[07:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:05] <exec> 08└─Or the "Kavanaugh" interpretation: dude riding a bike shots himself in the head, and is classified as a bicycle-related fatality. "He should have been wearing a helmet!" When will they ever learn? Organ donor in any case, so sort of a win-win situation. One less gun-lover, one less scofflaw bicyclis...
[07:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Interstellar Asteroid 'Oumuamua Tracked to Four Possible Origin Star Systems - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:15] <exec> 08└─One million years from now, the astronomers of some other solar system will track 'Oumuamua's orbit back to our solar system, claiming incorrectly that it originated here. What makes us think that the object originated in one of those four solar systems, just because it came from their direction?
[07:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:31] <exec> 08└─... man-made climate change, or the idea that we can do anything about it (or should) becomes increasingly suspicious.
[07:44:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:44:55] <exec> 08└─Agreed. This makes me want to check up on all my Mozilla based applications. WTF? None of my activity is any of Mozilla's business.
[07:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 724 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:16] <exec> 08└─So many times, they make the cyber but they forget to put in the SECURITY. They make it look so beautiful, they make it do amazing things. Incredible things -- the aircraft carriers, the porn, the Cell Phone and everything else. But it's not secure. Trust me, bad cyber is a disaster for our Country....
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[08:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:22] <exec> 08└─How many Million People in 2016 were born because of Alcohol?
[08:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:24] <exec> 08└─all of life's problems.
[08:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:26] <exec> 08└─3 miilion died, at least twice as many got their lives ruined, but hey, certainly more than 10 million made a living thanks to alcohol ! The numbers check out. Drink more.
[08:44:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:29] <exec> 08└─The overall number of deaths in 2016 is estimated at 56.9M: http://www.who.int [who.int] Still, not enough to put a halt on our current overpopulation...
[08:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Interstellar Asteroid 'Oumuamua Tracked to Four Possible Origin Star Systems - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:40] <exec> 08└─http://www.mpia.de/homes/calj/gdr2_oumuamua/oumuamua_gdr2.pdf [www.mpia.de]
[08:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:58] <exec> 08└─Space graffiti.
[08:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:59] <exec> 08└─Ok, here is my idea for a productive conversation. Let's start with conversations about international laws regarding sending junk into space, and the fines for not cleaning up. And anyone that sends anything that is more distracting than $limit without good technical or scientific reason will be sen...
[08:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:01] <exec> 08└─I remember reading about utopian plans to place mirrors in space for solar power generation on the ground. This little project gives us a very tiny hint what implications such big mirrors might have.
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[09:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:20] <exec> 08└─A flock of ITAcopters on the horizon, the setting sun behind them. They don't shoot, in fact they don't seem to carry any weapon But when they are overhead you notice the ominous banner tied on their tail: "Surrender now or NO MORE PIZZAS FOR YOU EVER"
[09:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:21] <exec> 08└─Hueys and A-10s forever!
[09:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03sce7mjm [809] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:23] <exec> 08└─Will they fly faster backwards than they do forwards?
[09:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:38] <exec> 08└─I've seen many drunken Russians, I'm yet to see one dead due to ingestion of too much vodka. It almost sounds to me like a contradiction in terms. In terms of substance abuse, it's very likely you do need Novichok to kill them and even then they might recover from a dose that kills a Westerner. (gri...
[09:44:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:44:57] <exec> 08└─If only there were scientists who could educate this first group that the value of things isn't just in the observations, numbers, and evidence -- it's in the non-measurable, external, and emotional responses to putting shiny crap in space
[09:45:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:45:10] <exec> 08└─Not really. On the contrary rather. A space reflector is likely to focus the energy it is meant to capture/convert, anything going astray is contrary to its purpose. This one will spread the incoming energy in directions some (e.g. the astronomers) will find at least annoying. It's like one trying t...
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[09:45:52] <exec> 08└─Whoosh much?
[09:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 1518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:47:48] <exec> 08└─I don't know the answer, but all I can say is that Google's results have for me become worse than useless over the last few years. I hardly ever find what I am looking for in the sea of crap sites that all seem to just link to one another. I've come across sites that basically ripped off the origina...
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[10:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03RandomFactor [3682] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:35] <exec> 08└─"Here kitty kitty kitty...."
[10:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:36] <exec> 08└─Fatal.
[10:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:38] <exec> 08└─When modern birds are dinosaurs, they inherently weigh as much as dinosaurs! A better headline would be: Vorombe titan did not weight as much as an African elephant. The best headline would be: Vorombe titan weighed the same as one VW Beetle. Because everything needs to be measured in Beetles, Footb...
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[10:43:49] <exec> 08└─'splain, plz.
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[10:43:52] <exec> 08└─https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leonardo_helicopter.JPG [wikimedia.org]
[10:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:54] <exec> 08└─This will turn out to be an expensive mistake. Anything resembling "big business" in Italy is infested by Mafia interests, who will cut corners and substitute cheaper, substandard parts / materials wherever they can. The consequences are predictably dire: https://www.theguardian.com
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[10:43:56] <exec> 08└─> Anything resembling "big business" in Italy is infested by Mafia interests, who will cut corners and substitute cheaper, substandard parts / materials wherever they can. Yeah. The F35 with its AI-driven toilet paper dispenser, or the HELL-I-copter with the blades made of well seasoned Parmigiano....
[10:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03marcello_dl [2685] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:58] <exec> 08└─> Anything resembling "big business" in Italy is infested by Mafia interests Technically it's the other way round, big business infiltrated mafia. Unless you subscribe to the theory that mafia is at its upper layers a secret society, not a resistance movement that found criminal activity too comfort...
[10:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 455 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:44:52] <exec> 08└─I can't really imagine that the losses (through mirror imperfections or diffusion through particles in the atmosphere) of a multi-kilometer-sized mirror aren't at least in the ballpark of this comparatively little sphere. The distribution of light will be different over the angles, with a sphere mor...
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[10:44:53] <exec> 08└─I always thought the biggest issue with the space-solar reflectors is human/political. Who will have control over what would essentially be to humans what the magnifying glass is to ants? In the wrong hands such a device would be one serious weapon, and knowing human nature, someone would try to tur...
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[10:45:37] <exec> 08└─Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/61.0
[10:47:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 414 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:47:47] <exec> 08└─Here's a possible solution: 1. Heat up the atmosphere to the point where no part of the planet has air colder than 0C. Of course, there might be some challenges in pulling this off, but that's really just an implementation detail, and I'm sure those smarty-pants engineering types can figure that out...
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[11:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:12] <exec> 08└─How long would it take V. Titan to eat the Library of Congress? How many football fields would the resulting V. Titan poo cover?
[11:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:13] <exec> 08└─Birds are not dinosaurs. They have descendent from dinosaurs, but they are not dinosaurs. And not all dinosaurs had feathers. According to wikipedia (may not be right, but) T-REX and the like had plumulaceous feathers, a kind of proto feather, it did not look like a giant chicken with teeth.
[11:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:29] <exec> 08└─Joint bid with Boeing, will be built in Philadelphia...
[11:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:31] <exec> 08└─In case you are confused that Hueys are still in service still while all movies have Blackhawks featured, we are discussing the Air Force's helicopter. The Air Force does not have as strong of a need for helicopters as the other branches of military, and therefore are still running the relatively ol...
[11:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:44:48] <exec> 08└─3 million die because of alcohol. But *why* are they overdosing? Depression, social situation, etc. Blaming alcohol is lazy.
[11:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:24] <exec> 08└─I always thought the biggest issue with the space-solar reflectors is human/political.
[11:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:45:25] <exec> 08└─"By sending an object with no military value into space, Paglen said he hopes to raise a conversation about who is allowed to operate past Earth's atmosphere." -> "I'm going to do something really stupid so people will have to make a rule against doing obviously stupid crap."
[11:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:46:10] <exec> 08└─Whoosh much? Pope John Paul II told Catholics to boycott the Blonde Ambition World Tour in 1990 because Madonna simulated masturbation during her performance of Like A Virgin. That was back when we got our news from a TV screen instead of a computer screen. Did you not see the news or do you not rem...
[11:51:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:51:09] <exec> 08└─It's not fake coughing for me, asshole. Urge to keep the shit that killed my mother out of my lungs is quite real.
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[12:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:14] <exec> 08└─For some reason all the pics they show were taken while moving with too long exposure so they are blurry. But in the lesst blurry one you can see some sort of space organism "shooting" pulses of light past the asteroid surface. http://www.hayabusa2.jaxa.jp [hayabusa2...
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[12:43:16] <exec> 08└─lets hope they dont find any gauna ... /me runs away screaming.
[12:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:18] <exec> 08└─That's J.J.Abrams's ethereal flashlight.
[12:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:20] <exec> 08└─Jjabrams's sounds like an alien name.
[12:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:32] <exec> 08└─800kg ~=7850N
[12:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:33] <exec> 08└─A unit of mass, such as the kilogram, is also a unit of relative weight up to ratios [wikipedia.org]. In any given place, an 800 kg bird weighs the same as eighty 10 kg plates: 800 kg times local g. Under less gravity, they both weigh less, but they still both weigh the same.
[12:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:35] <exec> 08└─The trex quacked like a duck: https://nerdist.com [nerdist.com] Also, Id say any animal that cant fly isnt a real bird.
[12:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:37] <exec> 08└─What do you mean by "up to"? This is a strange phrasing.
[12:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:55] <exec> 08└─Good luck with that. The Dutch have had some bad experiences with Italian made helicopters and trains: Made in Italy [medium.com]. The helicopters can't be used by the navy because they rust near seawater and the trains had so many failures they were ultimately sent back to Italy.
[12:43:56] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 1490 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:56] <exec> 08└─The story is not terribly well researched by the journalist. Its really two stories. First, the blackhawk is a 1970s design to replace the huey. Its not a bad design for a 1970s chopper. For something made with slide rules in the pre-microprocessor era it kicks butt. Obviously there's been some mode...
[12:43:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:43:59] <exec> 08└─My friend, you under estimate the value of the pizza delivery business!
[12:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:01] <exec> 08└─It's an old joke about Italy and retreating, it used to be about tanks... etc.
[12:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:03] <exec> 08└─No, they are Italian, not French!
[12:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:23] <exec> 08└─3 million die because of alcohol. But *why* are they overdosing? Depression, social situation, etc. Blaming alcohol is lazy.
[12:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:44:24] <exec> 08└─And that's not even mentioning how many were born because of it.
[12:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:02] <exec> 08└─some people within scientific communities are saying it lacks a practical purpose.
[12:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:04] <exec> 08└─What else is human existence besides making stuff happen that wouldn't happen if we weren't alive?
[12:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:45:06] <exec> 08└─Define merit. NdGTyson, Sagan, Bill Nye - do they have merit? Ignoring any actual science that those giants may or may not have done, they undeniably put significant effort and resources into education, awareness and mind-shaping. I think this project has addressed the "keep space clean" aspect with...
[12:50:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:50:48] <exec> 08└─You couldn't be adversely affected by cigarette smoking outdoors if you spent a hundred years walking close enough to touch every smoker you saw as you passed. You're just an asshole.
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[13:43:05] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what that was, sounded like pseudointellectual babbling. It seems to me Linus probably bought the wrong plane tickets on purpose, maybe he got an NSL or something, who knows. This is just part of the overall tech industry being ruined by people who care more about politics/money/power...
[13:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:07] <exec> 08└─The bottom line is words have consequences and these groups need to insulate themselves from lawsuits.
[13:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:09] <exec> 08└─It's not that hard. Any group that has things to do, has more important stuff than worrying about people's widdle feelings. When the group begins to worry excessively about those widdle feelings, then the group falls apart. If it doesn't fall apart entirely, then the remaining group's mission in lif...
[13:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:43:21] <exec> 08└─Hopefullessly the rovers can send their pictures to earth by posting them to social media. That way we all get to see the images at the same time as the space agency who sent the rovers. Thus making it difficult to sensor the tentacles once they are detected by censors.
[13:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:03] <exec> 08└─*And you wake up in the morning...*
[13:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 1736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:04] <exec> 08└─Not entirely wrong but its a little more complicated. The blackhawk upgrade in the late 70s was mission based; I wanna air assault or medevac platform better than a huey. The air force has baked billions of dollars of requirements into the design of their missile launch fields for decades; there's n...
[13:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:06] <exec> 08└─> Blackhawks Hawks of all colors deserve to be tweeted equally.
[13:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:26] <exec> 08└─This research is pointless, just beaurocrats justifying their pet project. I think this movie probably depicts it well: https://en.m.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[13:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:27] <exec> 08└─bureaucrats
[13:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 1638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:09] <exec> 08└─If you're an astronomer or live out in the sticks, perhaps. If it's only "as bright as a star in the Big Dipper" then it's going to be pretty much lost in the glare of light pollution for a significant chunk of the population that will even know that it exists, just like the previous effort at this...
[13:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:10] <exec> 08└─Space is big, really big. etc. - Douglas Adams Any astronomer doing anything even remotely interesting is focused on less than 1 degree of sky at a time, and there are over 40,000 degrees of sky [badastronomy.com] in our 3 dimensions. So, for a period of a couple of months, 0.0025% of the sky is goi...
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[13:45:12] <exec> 08└─Once the engineering/safety issues are overcome, it will become a political issue. I have greater confidence in our increasing engineering abilities to deal with such problems than I do our apparently stagnant/oscillating political progress.
[13:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:14] <exec> 08└─Art Project proposal: Put up a constellation of art project satellites with global coverage. Don't make them shiny, so that they do not interfere with fussy entitled astronomers. Make them dark by having outward facing solar panels to collect power. With this power, they can bless the earth with 1 m...
[13:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:28] <exec> 08└─Don't be so harsh on poor well meaning Intel. It's not like they would build in a "management engine" to subvert YOUR hardware to enable third party control of YOUR machine -- even when it is supposedly turned off. Oh, wait.
[13:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:14] <exec> 08└─Yes it's disgusting somebody sells this stuff but I think the fault is with the first party, i.e. NCIX, who should have wiped the hardware before passing it on. Unless they had some shady deal the info goes along with the servers and gets monetized by selling to criminals. And then there is the ques...
[13:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:46:33] <exec> 08└─But wait . . . all the computers seem to have their USB ports filled with hot glue. So on one hand, computers should not have any available USB ports, for security. On the other hand, computers should use security tokens that plug into USB. This doesn't leave any hands free for, oh, nevermind. (well...
[13:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:55] <exec> 08└─> There really is a good kind of SEO IMO, no. They need to come up with a word that is not forever tainted. SEO stinks to high heaven of scam, deceit, gaming the system, and manipulation in order to perpetrate "dodgy" web sites. SEO is not the same thing as a best practice to make a site more transp...
[13:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 1043 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:57] <exec> 08└─If a search engine is not optimizing for what the user is trying to find, then ultimately they are self defeating. And indeed Google, like the life cycle of many other companies, may eventually jump the shark. Users will find something else. It will be a gradual shift. There isn't one single day whe...
[13:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:59] <exec> 08└─Faux News and other alt-right news sources
[13:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:01] <exec> 08└─It's called *politics* and *compromise* and why *ELECTIONS FUCKING MATTER*. Since for most of the time Democrats were arguing how to best have Obamacare implemented, they really did fuck-all next, assuming that Republicans are going to remain sane. That assumption was incorrect. What happens is an e...
[13:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:48:03] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Search engines are entirely too easy to make and host for monopoly to ever be a worry. Lessen your quality of service at your own peril.
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[13:48:30] <exec> 08└─OP here, thanks for your comments. This makes sense, so why isn't this simple control strategy used? Adding a temp sensor can't cost very much and these home units already have a processor in them to read the "humidity sensor", run the display and timer. Playing the manufacturer for a moment, I supp...
[13:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:20] <exec> 08└─I suppose that is one meaning of careful. Who do you trust, and how much. Hopefully friends would realize that such a thing should not be done. Or that you would not want to see it, even as a joke. And that knowing you, they would respect your values, because they are friends.
[13:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:21] <exec> 08└─It used to be a much, much smaller neighborhood where trolls could not be avoided at all and yet its popularity growth was pretty damned impressive. People have been living with people they don't especially like since there have been people. Being this thin skinned is an aberration not the norm.
[13:51:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:14] <exec> 08└─I've got nothing against eating keto diet meals as long as we keep some handy carbs around for me as well. The Roomie has been on it for six months or so now and mostly it means I get to eat a lot more two inch thick ribeyes and one pound cheeseburgers. Mind you, it also means I get to make biscuits...
[13:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:15] <exec> 08└─PSA: Cow pies, also not pies.
[13:51:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:17] <exec> 08└─What? Shepherd's pie has been called "pie" since forever and a day, and there is no pastry in it. Even by your definition, a pizza could be called a pie because it does have a crust. Is it the exact same crust you would use in an apple pie? No. Then again, recipes for crust vary. A Chicago-style piz...
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[13:51:19] <exec> 08└─That's awesome. I'd love to do the same but I can't get the damn mushrooms to develop, despite having sent away for plugs from Fungi Perfecti to implant in trees that fell during the last hurricane.
[13:51:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:51:22] <exec> 08└─The part of the chocolate bar that isn't keto friendly is the sugar. Substitute stevia and you're set. It is difficult to get off carbs, though, because it is as addictive as the TFA says. The upside is that once you're off them, you feel much calmer. You never get hangry, because your body picks up...
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[13:51:24] <exec> 08└─You can still eat biscuits and gravy on a keto diet. Mix some flax meal, an egg, a little bit of baking soda and salt in a coffee mug and nuke it for a minute and you have a biscuit. Not quite the same texture as a regular biscuit, sure, but that's just an excuse to add more gravy. Keto is a great e...
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[13:52:11] <exec> 08└─holding back the advance of civilization.
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[14:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:44] <exec> 08└─[...] these groups need to insulate themselves from lawsuits.
[14:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:45] <exec> 08└─Then you didn't pay enough attention. It's far from pseudointellectual babbling.
[14:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:47] <exec> 08└─Its just too convenient that the forced windows 10 "upgrade" finally started pushing non-tech people in the direction of linux, and now these internal attacks are coming out. I doubt most SJWs as you call them are doing more than following some thought leaders, so who are they?
[14:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:49] <exec> 08└─Strict ethoi are typically functional glue only for small groups at the margins of society; minority regious groups are the best-studied case. The larger and more varied your group is, the more penalty there is for trying to be too normative.
[14:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:52] <exec> 08└─I was a minor Linux kernel hacker back in the day. I submitted patches starting in 1995, about 23 years ago. I stayed involved for a decade. Now I do cyberwar for a government contractor. There are SJW-inspired laws we have to pretend to follow, but mostly it's a patriotic hacker meritocracy. If I w...
[14:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:54] <exec> 08└─What can we say about where to set the slider? In general, the most successful - most inclusive - cooperations have a minimal ethos. That is, they are just as normative as they must be to achieve the telos, *and no more so*. Citation needed - argument by assertion. It's easy to see why this is. Push...
[14:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:56] <exec> 08└─I lack your credentials, but I share your anxiety. The new masters may decide that Linux security must be sacrificed for the benefit of . . . . whatever the hell. I can almost hear them chanting, "If you haven't done anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide!" There won't be any backdoors instal...
[14:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:58] <exec> 08└─They can withdraw their ongoing support, but where exactly in the GPL does it give the ability to revoke the license you've already granted?
[14:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:00] <exec> 08└─Makes perfect sense to me, and I had to learn a couple words on the fly. Though I suspect regious was a typo for religious, as the available definitions don't seem to fit in context.
[14:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:02] <exec> 08└─For starters, Soros, Turner, Hearst, Jane Fonda, that "Professor" Ayers. MSM beats the drum, look for any of the owners, and movers and shakers in MSM. The leaders are the people with the money, who pay other people to get on the news, or on the screen, or on the radio to push these agendas. To a le...
[14:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:05] <exec> 08└─Its just too convenient that the forced windows 10 "upgrade" finally started pushing non-tech people in the direction of linux, and now these internal attacks are coming out. I doubt most SJWs as you call them are doing more than following some thought leaders, so who are they?
[14:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:07] <exec> 08└─I think we ought to thoroughly investigate whether Linus Torvalds was threatened. (By NSA) IMO, this CoC is not something that this project needs to adopt. I think most people that oppose the CoC do so because they support free speech instead of supporting sexism, or anything like that. You can supp...
[14:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:09] <exec> 08└─Would you say you would be in a complete kernel panic?
[14:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03CZB [6457] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:11] <exec> 08└─Hot diggity, that's a great big picture framing of the issue ESR has there. He could have summed it up in more straightforward language though. Every organization fades and dies, or else changes into something rather different. I'm not involved in the Linux kernel, but I think its the most important...
[14:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:13] <exec> 08└─Where does the GPL give permission to retroactively change the terms under which code is developed and distributed?
[14:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1739 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:15] <exec> 08└─It's not the whole "equality" or "inclusion" aspects here that bother me; I'm all for that, and any sane meritocracy proponent would see that if you have a limited demographic for whatever reason then you are statistically likely to be missing out on merit-worthy contributions from people who are re...
[14:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:18] <exec> 08└─That's perfectly reasonable. If you don't like the way Linux is being run, FORK! There's no reason to try to fight the Linux development team, even if you disagree with the way they are handling it. That's what the GPLv2 is for. Anyone who tries to withdraw their copyright in violation of the GPLv2...
[14:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:20] <exec> 08└─Corporations, at least traditional ones, don't understand open source. (There are exceptions. I would say Google understands it.) You don't own or control open source. Open source is like a beehive and the corporation is like a bee keeper. The bees are free to leave at any time. If you make the bee...
[14:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:22] <exec> 08└─Um, Eric asks the reader to "think like a game theorist for a bit", where he has some experience -- how did you convert that to "amateur philosopher"? . > Common sense usually isn't - the regime of the slider where the organization can achieve useful work is broader (and can be set higher) than Eric...
[14:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:24] <exec> 08└─According to this [lulz.com], its already too late and Linux is done. So an outside group called the Contributor Covenant now has control of who is allowed to commit to Linux?
[14:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:26] <exec> 08└─When you write open source code for free, my understanding for many licences you grant the project you submit the code to a licence to use such code. But this licence can be revoked at any time. When you write code for free, unless you explicitly signed away all of your rights, you own that code and...
[14:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:28] <exec> 08└─And those who don't like how Linux is being run now aren't considering forking. They're threatening to pull their code from the project, thus gutting it. That's about as far from an open source ethos as one gets IMVHO.
[14:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:31] <exec> 08└─The bottom line is words have consequences...
[14:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:00] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur [wikipedia.org] As such, birds were the only dinosaur lineage to survive the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago.[7] Dinosaurs can therefore be divided into avian dinosaurs, or birds; and non-avian dinosaurs, which are all dinosaurs oth...
[14:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:30] <exec> 08└─I heard the new Italian helicopters have glass bottoms...so they can see the old Italian helicopters [scomedy.com].
[14:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:57] <exec> 08└─I don't think that you can ascertain that there were ~0 deaths due to marijuana. Because WHO includes all alcohol-related deaths, then you have to include all marijuana-related deaths. That would have to include deals gone bad, so one party shoots the other. We had a rather spectacular shooting here...
[14:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:58] <exec> 08└─3 million deaths is a drop in the bucket, isn't it? http://worldbirthsanddeaths.com [worldbirthsanddeaths.com] 4.3 births, and 1.8 deaths every second. Maybe we need a few more breweries? At least some of those drunks die happy!
[14:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:00] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, when the eye of sauron turns back towards pot they've find all sorts of health issues to link it to.
[14:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:45:43] <exec> 08└─When my lunar base is complete I'm gonna build a giant, lit picture of buttocks on it so every night I can moon the Earth.
[14:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:00] <exec> 08└─I only trust Microsoft when running on a secure processor with the Intel Management Engine and speculative execution vulnerabilities.
[14:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:01] <exec> 08└─If I'm going to use two of the three factors, my preference would be: 1. something I have (the USB key) 2. something I am (my retina scan) That is much more convenient. . . . both for me and for border security / TSA. All they need is my USB key and my eyeball.
[14:47:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Sound of Pixels - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:22] <exec> 08└─For your purposes, you could train an AI to recognize terrorists by their skin color.
[14:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 908 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:30] <exec> 08└─"biased" is probably the wrong word here. It anthropomorphizes the algo. Probably the more correct word is "variance" or "selection". Bias may be introduced into the algo, but the algo itself is not biased. What you have here is a paranoid perception of a persecution by a non-cogniscent system. The...
[14:48:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:32] <exec> 08└─Your new, fair, search engine might not take the market overnight. And Google might recognize the competition and mend its ways -- which doesn't help your project to be successful. So now there is a potential cycle. 10. Monopolist starts to become abusive 20. Open competition starts to become a thre...
[14:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:34] <exec> 08└─I suppose I could have added: 70. PROFIT
[14:48:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:48:36] <exec> 08└─The fact that Democrats' major sense of pride comes from implementing Nixon's healthcare plan says a lot.
[14:51:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:51:52] <exec> 08└─That combination never occurred to me, but will try it now.
[14:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:51:53] <exec> 08└─Heretic! How dare you adulterate the sanctity of biscuits with your farcical recipe?! I declare a fatwa upon you and your descendants for twelve generations! Seriously though, if you grew up loving the hell out of biscuits and gravy, you're not going to find a keto-friendly alternative acceptable fo...
[14:52:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06White House Considering Launching an Antitrust Probe on Google and Facebook - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:52:42] <exec> 08└─You have left out the the more likely culprit, which was regime change. The case was opened under Clinton and dismissed under Bush. If it wasn't a backroom campaign promise, I'd be surprised.
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[15:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:30] <exec> 08└─I'm initiating my sporulation!
[15:43:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:47] <exec> 08└─[...] these groups need to insulate themselves from lawsuits.
[15:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:11] <exec> 08└─GPL doesn't give this permission. The problem is that the right is arguably default under certain legal schemes. My understanding as a non-lawyer is that you can't revoke a license like this arbitrarily. However, GPLv2 DOES contain a prohibition on revocation: However, parties who have received copi...
[15:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:12] <exec> 08└─If you don't like the way Linux is being run, FORK! There's no reason to try to fight the Linux development team, even if you disagree with the way they are handling it. That's what the GPLv2 is for. Anyone who tries to withdraw their copyright in violation of the GPLv2 needs to be put on a wall of...
[15:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah. I understand why they are mad. I actually agree with them that what the Linux team is doing is wrong. But I also think the GPLv2 gives you the right to fork for exactly this type of ideological disagreement. We can have separate projects with different ethical rules that are based on the same...
[15:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:17] <exec> 08└─Yes it's a recent development. Now that you can be a different gender daily (or possibly more frequently?). It's only a matter of time until someone lawyers up because someone else couldn't keep their mouth shut.
[15:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:19] <exec> 08└─I disagree. An entire culture has an ethos at whatever level that it functions at. Many cultures do have strict ethoi - look at the Muslim world for examples, and historically you can find many Christian communities the same way and you can go back at least to Sparta and I'm sure beyond that. You ca...
[15:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:21] <exec> 08└─Lets talk about Withdrawing Copyright. If that is how the GPLv2 works, are we just waiting for Linus or some other major early player to die, and his kids to sell his intellectual property to Microsoft, for this open source experient to crumble into dust?
[15:44:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:23] <exec> 08└─Ultimately I think Linus should decide. Interesting that he stepped down at this time. It creates a problem. I also agree that the CoC side should be the ones forking, not the other way around. But lets say that they don't, it doesn't give the anti-CoC group the right to violate GPLv2. Personally, I...
[15:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:25] <exec> 08└─Kernel-level, admittedly an enormous task, but a sw developer (or group) could search / scan the Linux source, verify no backdoors exist, and make that source available. At some point absolute security is impossible, as we've seen hard disk boot code, BIOS, and now CPU bugs. You could run a 486 and...
[15:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:27] <exec> 08└─Hot diggity, that's a great big picture framing of the issue ESR has there. He could have summed it up in more straightforward language though.
[15:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:29] <exec> 08└─IANAL, but the GPL is a license governing distribution. The creator of the code retains an inalienable copyright, i.e. they can't be forcefully "disowned" of their creation. How these rights weigh against one another should be an interesting excercise for the armies of "IP" lawyers and courts. Let's...
[15:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:32] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what that was
[15:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:34] <exec> 08└─The right to terminate isn't in the GPL, it's in statute. The GPLv3 states that the grant of license is irrevocable, which may be an attempt to get round the termination rights in law (whether it would work or not has never been tested), however GPLv2 in contrast does not. Which implies that the gra...
[15:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:36] <exec> 08└─The GPLv2 also states: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program into other free programs whose distribution conditions are different, write to the author to ask for permission. For software which is copyrighted by the Free Software Foundation, write to the Free Software Foundation; we so...
[15:44:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:38] <exec> 08└─The GPL v2 explicitly states that you must receive express permission from every author in order to change the terms of distribution for any contributed code: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program into other free programs whose distribution conditions are different, write to the autho...
[15:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:40] <exec> 08└─I'm not ready to call Linux dead, but obviously we've hit a fork in the road, pun intended. My feeling is, and has always been, that Linux is Linus' project. He's always had a very direct, sometimes insulting persona, and nobody should be surprised by it. If he's too mean-spirited, vulgar, gruff, wh...
[15:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:42] <exec> 08└─Disagree in absolute black and white terms. Whoever received code with a GPL license will always be free to use and redistribute it to others under the GPL. All of the clauses in the GPL that are written in an unbounded present tense - viz. "you may"s conditional only upon clauses that have nothing...
[15:44:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:45] <exec> 08└─It doesn't work that way. The GPLv2 is a copyright license to the code, not a license to the project. You might be able to argue a breach of implied contract with the Linux kernel project, but that doesn't give you a right to violate the license of GPLv2. It's the same reason Red Hat is able to stop...
[15:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:47] <exec> 08└─Even if it is in statutory law, it does not seem enforceable. Otherwise many of those fighting divorces (aka forks) would have ended in revocations of licenses. I guess that some underlying judicial principles would overrule any such revocation (e.g. in Europe you have transparency principles). IANA...
[15:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:49] <exec> 08└─GPLv2 4: "However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance" -- https://www.gnu.org
[15:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:51] <exec> 08└─I don't think the Code of Conduct text is the main issue. It basically comes down to "don't harass people" and "be professional", which shouldn't be too much to ask. With more code these days being written for businesses rather than as a hobby, I think it is inevitable that the way of working become...
[15:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:53] <exec> 08└─I stopped reading it when it became too hard to parse and began heavily referring to speculative philosophical concepts. None of that has anything to do with whats going on here. Its a group of "newcomers" attempting to force their will on people who created something great and take control of it, w...
[15:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:55] <exec> 08└─news of an attempt to install a CoC
[15:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:58] <exec> 08└─I truly wonder what percentage of these highly vocal SJWs now swarming to parasitically attach themselves to the Linux project and drag it down are even able to write code. Can't we just find a way to detox the project from all these irrelevant muppets, and just get back to being a community of deve...
[15:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:00] <exec> 08└─Development in the U.S.A. can continue regardless of these stupid "moral rights". I'd suggest just ignoring all European laws, and not interacting with the EU; they are nuts.
[15:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:02] <exec> 08└─How did you determine that there are no angry lesbians who write quality code?
[15:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:04] <exec> 08└─Lets talk about Withdrawing Copyright.
[15:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:06] <exec> 08└─It's long overdue we created an anti-SJW alliance. And seriously protest it. That being said, this copyright issue poses a serious problem. We can't let the representatives get away with leaving this alone. If anyone wants to save Linux, we need all commit at least 8 hours every weekend to fighting...
[15:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:08] <exec> 08└─Chubby, purple-haired, SJW honeypots can swarm soy-faced virgin (or cuckold) developers in order to woke them and drag the project into a flaming oblivion.
[15:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:11] <exec> 08└─"Interesting that he stepped down ..." What's most interesting to me is that the mail in which he announced his withdrawal contained a matching pair of smart double-quotes, and a single smart apostrophe. Linus almost entirely sticks to ASCII, in particular on LKML. Which implies to me one of two thi...
[15:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:13] <exec> 08└─That's a serious problem. Can control be taken back from them?
[15:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:15] <exec> 08└─without any social science majors and angry lesbians
[15:45:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:17] <exec> 08└─So you didn't understand the part you read, and you didn't read the part that describes how it applies to what is going on, but yet you feel qualified to claim that it doesn't apply at all. Yeah, right, makes absolutely sense. </sarcasm>
[15:45:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:31] <exec> 08└─The asteroid *IS* the guana. Wait for the critter that left the guana to come back around for a visit.
[15:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:19] <exec> 08└─If it were a French design, all the weapons would be detachable, so they can be jettisoned quickly. ;^)
[15:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:48] <exec> 08└─Because WHO includes all alcohol-related deaths, then you have to include all marijuana-related deaths. That would have to include deals gone bad, so one party shoots the other.
[15:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 1384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:38] <exec> 08└─Will not define "merit" since I avoided that phrase due to it tending to devolve into politics rather than science or technology quickly (hence "reason" - such as "need solar panels for power"). Well, only in USA and neighbouring areas (possibly excepting Sagan). I found out about Bill Nye from the...
[15:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:28] <exec> 08└─In this case the info is being shared with the target website *and* being sent back to Mozilla, along with URL and total ping count. Further, this isn't vanilla Firefox, it's the TOR browser bundle which suggests a higher level of security and privacy. This is not acceptable and could put lives at r...
[15:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Sound of Pixels - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:27] <exec> 08└─Sometimes also the opposite applies: Music played in the background of some talking, and you like the music, and would like to remove the talking without affecting the quality of the music, so you can enjoy the music in isolation.
[15:50:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:39] <exec> 08└─A stance that there's no such thing as good SEO is similar to a stance that there's no good SJWs. Superficially true, but there's the occasional Pankhurst or King. Any field that invites and encourages abuse and deceit is going to end up pretty toxic, but there's nothing that actually obliges you to...
[15:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:41] <exec> 08└─They must be referring to the conservatives who voted for a billionaire playboy with no religious faith.
[15:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:10] <exec> 08└─A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals
[15:52:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mobydisk [5472] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Not Protecting Content Moderators From Mental Trauma: Lawsuit - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:01] <exec> 08└─This is where I think AI can truly help humanity.
[15:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:03] <exec> 08└─What? Shepherd's pie has been called "pie" since forever and a day, and there is no pastry in it.
[15:54:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:05] <exec> 08└─It is the only drug that you will not only be socially acceptable, but will almost certainly be offered at every gathering, from meals, to business meetings, to church on Sunday (or Friday or Saturday even for all I know). It isn't like I am ever going to have to go without short of apocalypse.
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[16:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:57] <exec> 08└─The jig is up, you should have known that obscurity is not security.
[16:43:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03urza9814 [3954] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 278 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:21] <exec> 08└─Its just too convenient that the forced windows 10 "upgrade" finally started pushing non-tech people in the direction of linux, and now these internal attacks are coming out. I doubt most SJWs as you call them are doing more than following some thought leaders, so who are they?
[16:43:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 537 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:29] <exec> 08└─Corporations, at least traditional ones, don't understand open source. (There are exceptions. I would say Google understands it.) You don't own or control open source. Open source is like a beehive and the corporation is like a bee keeper. The bees are free to leave at any time. If you make the bee...
[16:43:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03urza9814 [3954] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 454 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:36] <exec> 08└─If you don't like the way Linux is being run, FORK! There's no reason to try to fight the Linux development team, even if you disagree with the way they are handling it. That's what the GPLv2 is for. Anyone who tries to withdraw their copyright in violation of the GPLv2 needs to be put on a wall of...
[16:43:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mth [2848] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 603 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:54] <exec> 08└─I don't think the Code of Conduct text is the main issue. It basically comes down to "don't harass people" and "be professional", which shouldn't be too much to ask. With more code these days being written for businesses rather than as a hobby, I think it is inevitable that the way of working become...
[16:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:08] <exec> 08└─The barrier to termination might be hard to clear: In the case of a grant executed by two or more authors of a joint work, termination of the grant may be effected by a majority of the authors who executed it;
[16:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:10] <exec> 08└─So basically what you are saying is "only white male anglo-saxon persons should have the keys to write code". Is that right?
[16:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:12] <exec> 08└─I don't think the Code of Conduct text is the main issue. It basically comes down to "don't harass people" and "be professional", which shouldn't be too much to ask.
[16:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:14] <exec> 08└─Yes, but if I get this correctly -- and I might *not* and I invite correction if I'm misunderstanding -- but the threat here isn't that separate projects based on the same code will happen. Instead you have contributors asserting that they will *pull* "their" code from the kernel and not allow it to...
[16:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:16] <exec> 08└─"But this licence can be revoked at any time." No. The license was granted by you to those you distributed it to. The license you distributed with the code granted those people you distributed it to redistribution rights. You can absolutely choose to stop distributing it any time you like. But that...
[16:44:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:19] <exec> 08└─I'm not ready to call Linux dead, but obviously we've hit a fork in the road, pun intended.
[16:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:21] <exec> 08└─Sort of what I'm thinking. So the chief architect, really the Great Leader, of a major project takes a break, and is possibly stepping down, and one of his reasons is that he recognizes he's been too abrasive. And just like that, the whole project is in crisis? WTF? Or, is ESR being just a little ov...
[16:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 5240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:24] <exec> 08└─Yes. One should in fact *read* this Code of Conduct to learn what it contains before attacking it. For any who have failed to do so: https://www.linuxfoundation.org [linuxfoundation.org] spoilered since I don't want it to throw a bunch of lines in for someone who still wants their e...
[16:44:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:26] <exec> 08└─You are confusing distribution with modification. The CoC does not violate the GPL. The “change” is not a change in licensing, which would require agreement of all contributors. Change in the code is allowed as long as changes follow the GPL when distributed. For example, if I contribute code to...
[16:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:28] <exec> 08└─"... any sane meritocracy proponent would see ..." You do realise that the CoC being thrust in Linus' and Linux's face was written by a very-far-from-sane person? One who definitely does not have the best intentions of any code-base, or project viewed in terms of the programs it contains, at heart?...
[16:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:30] <exec> 08└─Can you find a way to detox the project from those who engage in harassment? I mean, it's taken 30+ years to get the project lead to realize he engages in behaviors that are unproductive and have actively driven many quality contributors away from the project, let alone everyone else at all other le...
[16:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:32] <exec> 08└─The idea is not that people can simply withdraw their work on a whim, but they could if they were kicked out of the kernel community. IANAL, but it goes something like this: People usually get paid for their work, in which case some contract specifies that the copyright on stuff they code is owned b...
[16:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah, those pooooor royals on the outskirts of society! Won't anyone think of the royal babies?
[16:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:37] <exec> 08└─Lets talk about Withdrawing Copyright.
[16:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:39] <exec> 08└─> So basically what you are saying is "only... It looks like that is what you are hearing -- time to have your ears checked.
[16:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:41] <exec> 08└─Really? people have been rude, disrespectful and even trolls for millennia, but you want to blame accountability for douchiness on gender identity? Dealing with people in a respectful manner is pretty simple: 1. Don't be a dick. 2. All you need is #1.
[16:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:43] <exec> 08└─Nobody's mentioned ESR for a while, he clearly felt he was losing relevance, and needed to ponce around pontificating in his usual way (namely with his head up his arse, and with a fair quantity of shit) in order to get some air-time again.
[16:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:45] <exec> 08└─"What a lot of people are afraid of, is that the CoC will be used as a weapon to wage political wars. And while I don't think that is the intention of the Linux leadership, there likely will be other people who will try just that." That's the explicit goal of the transgender Ruby on Rails coder that...
[16:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:48] <exec> 08└─The code is already distributed with license agreements, your comment does not make sense.
[16:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:50] <exec> 08└─Where is the evidence for this?
[16:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:52] <exec> 08└─You do realise you're arguing ad hominem?
[16:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:54] <exec> 08└─Linux isn't a joint work. It's a pile of derivative works. (Look up the legal explanation regarding what a joint work is in copyright, it's a term of art)
[16:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:56] <exec> 08└─Linus probably bought the wrong plane tickets on purpose
[16:44:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:58] <exec> 08└─"unproductive" Yes. He's created the single most-used consumer (or perhaps any) operating system in the world. A perfect example of how "unproductive" Linus has been. "driven many quality contributors away from the project" Plural? Name two. I'll give you Sarah Sharp for free. Having said that, wasn...
[16:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:01] <exec> 08└─The "You" in section 4 is speaking of the licensee regarding sub-licensees, it is not speaking to the licensor/copyright-holder. Re-read the license. IE: if the licensee loses his license, through operation of the automatic-revocation provisions, the sub-licensees do not also lose their licenses. IE...
[16:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:03] <exec> 08└─This particular thread is a good example of insanity and prejudice.
[16:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:05] <exec> 08└─Gratuitous licenses are revocable if the grantor wishes to rescind said license. You paid him nothing, he is not bound to any non-existent agreement. He gave you license out of the goodness of his heart, and can take it away if said heart hardens. It may "break opensource", but copyright law was not...
[16:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:36] <exec> 08└─A unit of mass, such as the kilogram, is also a unit of relative weight up to ratios [wikipedia.org].
[16:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:07] <exec> 08└─The second story is the Osprey has always overpromised under-delivered and killed a lot of people.
[16:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:09] <exec> 08└─What sound do they make when they fly?
[16:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:11] <exec> 08└─Data from Wikipedia and TFA. Unit cost UH-60: 21.3 million (2012 dollars average expenditure per Wikipedia). Unit cost MH-139: 28.3 million (2.2 billion divided by 84) down from original projection of over 4 billion. So the Air Force gets to celebrate a win of only $588 million of wasteage, assuming...
[16:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:38] <exec> 08└─Wait, I thought it was women, except often for the "solution" part.
[16:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:39] <exec> 08└─> But *why* are they overdosing? Depression, social situation, etc. > Blaming alcohol is lazy. Look, the GDP is happy with the growth of depression meaning a growth of alcohol consumption, and, per broken window fallacy, a growth of alcohol-related medical treatments. We could address the problem ea...
[16:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:41] <exec> 08└─And how many deaths did alcohol prevent from disease and food poisoning? https://www.nytimes.com [nytimes.com] In many places around the world, water is far from the safest thing to drink, especially if you're not...
[16:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:44] <exec> 08└─Is that you Brett?
[16:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:31] <exec> 08└─if the country needs BaC to notice fundamental research then it simply is a band aid for a much more serious problem.
[16:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:33] <exec> 08└─By sending an object with no military value into space, Paglen said he hopes to raise a conversation about who is allowed to operate past Earth's atmosphere." -> "I'm going to do something really stupid so people will have to make a rule against doing obviously stupid crap."
[16:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:24] <exec> 08└─Correction... Prior to my morning coffee, instead of "TBB" in the summary I saw "TPB" which immediately made me think that people browsing The Pirate Bay had noticed their browser sending that info back to Mozilla. Now that I'm more awake I can see this isn't the case. Please disregard my comment, j...
[16:48:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:25] <exec> 08└─You're joking, right? This is the browser dialing to mozilla's server for updates in TOR and only telling them the obvious. Moreover, TOR users are already visible to man-the-middle infrastructure (government and ISPs) since the connection to the exit nodes can't be disguised. What keeps them safe i...
[16:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 1053 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:54:04] <exec> 08└─The very mention of the word stevia makes me retch. I've had some pretty bad reactions to aspartame in the past and while I haven't made myself deathly ill with stevia, it seems to affect me in similar ways - I just avoid. We save money at the grocery store by not buying products with gluten in them...
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[17:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:17] <exec> 08└─You, current reader, don't care. If you're the kind of nerd who obsesses over internet protocols, you just want the world to be ipv6 compliant. If you like ease-of-life standards to make programming easier, there's been 6 billion of them since that are even better. If you're even remotely normal(you...
[17:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:28] <exec> 08└─It took 2.7 Billion years to find the key. Totally unsafe.
[17:43:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03exaeta [6957] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1585 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:59] <exec> 08└─I think we ought to thoroughly investigate whether Linus Torvalds was threatened. (By NSA) IMO, this CoC is not something that this project needs to adopt. I think most people that oppose the CoC do so because they support free speech instead of supporting sexism, or anything like that. You can supp...
[17:44:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1257 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:26] <exec> 08└─Disagree in absolute black and white terms. Whoever received code with a GPL license will always be free to use and redistribute it to others under the GPL. All of the clauses in the GPL that are written in an unbounded present tense - viz. "you may"s conditional only upon clauses that have nothing...
[17:44:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 682 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:43] <exec> 08└─You've hit on the biggest problem, the taking of offense where none was offered. There is literally nothing that one may say or do (including saying and doing nothing) that cannot be construed as an offense to another. A typical modern code of conduct fails to acknowledge that. The "offender" is pre...
[17:45:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 3565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:12] <exec> 08└─Correction to my above... I listed the Linux Foundation CoC in relation to convention attendance. Here's the kernel CoC, pulled from the summary link, sorry! *SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) +Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + +Our Pledge...
[17:45:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:13] <exec> 08└─The "You" in section 4 is speaking of the licensee regarding sub-licensees, it is not speaking to the licensor/copyright-holder. Re-read the license. IE: if the licensee loses his license, through operation of the automatic-revocation provisions, the sub-licensees do not also lose their licenses. IE...
[17:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:15] <exec> 08└─Citation needed?
[17:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:18] <exec> 08└─it's taken 30+ years to get the project lead to realize he engages in behaviors that are unproductive and have actively driven many quality contributors away from the project
[17:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:20] <exec> 08└─They will wait until they are ready to initiate legal proceedings, then rescind, and then sue anyone who ignores the rescission. Would you like to be on the hook for 300,000 in statutory damages per violation, per copyright owner?
[17:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:22] <exec> 08└─These trolls are beyond worked up, wrll past the "they are gonna take our guns!!!" level of anxiety. Look on the bright side, the trolls can now use these guidelines to file complaints when they are harassed for being straight white males.
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:24] <exec> 08└─Want to pull your code? You are still the owner of it. A gratuitous license not supported by an interest is revocable at any time by the grantor. They didn't pay you a dime for the right to use your code, you simply allowed them to. You can rescind that permission.
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─Case in point
[17:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:28] <exec> 08└─It's a gratuitous license, it can be withdrawn. It is not a copyright assignment: no one was "given" anything, they were only "allowed permission". It might not be good for opensource, but that is the US law on the issue. Certainly any future versions of the kernel would have to omit the rescinded c...
[17:45:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:31] <exec> 08└─They can reject whatever future commits they want, sure...but the CoC defines new distribution terms which appear to apply retroactively to existing code. You can't just add new terms which already licensed code must adhere to and claim it's not part of the license agreement simply because it's defi...
[17:45:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 809 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:33] <exec> 08└─The copyright statute informs the reader that copyright is alienable in the same way property is. From this you have licenses, transfers, contract licenses, contract sales, etc. Bare licenses: those not supported by consideration (licensor didn't pay anything to licensee) under property law are revo...
[17:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:35] <exec> 08└─Gratuitous licenses are revocable at the will of the grantor. You weren't _given_ anything, a license is not a transfer of ownership: it is permission by the owner to use his property. Barring an attached interest, he can rescind that permission granted to you whenever he wishes to do so. You paid n...
[17:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:37] <exec> 08└─The terms don't apply to the source code. Try to make sense. What the fuck are you talking about "applying to old code"?
[17:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:41] <exec> 08└─Black Hawks Matter ?
[17:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:43] <exec> 08└─You know your military is obese when you need more helicopters (84) just to watch over your own weapons movements, than all but a few countries have in their whole armed forces.
[17:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:45] <exec> 08└─No but they come with touchless controls so the pilot can talk and maneauver at the same time.
[17:47:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03black6host [3827] 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 645 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:43] <exec> 08└─Ok, so I'll buy the premise that we should consider that perhaps space is different from out planet and that there won't be a power struggle to control every square inch that could be. No religious wars, no technical wars... Man, space is just free!!!!!!! Like, peace man, it's just art! Sure. Ain't...
[17:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:10] <exec> 08└─It's a new light in the sky, oh no! Aliens!!! Because, you know someone's not going to believe the whole art aspect.
[17:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:11] <exec> 08└─Once the engineering/safety issues are overcome
[17:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:13] <exec> 08└─That thingy reflects light noise in > 2π steradians - the half a sphere receiving light from the sun. Come on, draw a circle and see how it reflects a parallel beam When your observation rely on exposing a photo for hours to register something of 27 magnitude [wikipedia.org], that thing crossing th...
[17:48:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:24] <exec> 08└─We should bring back trial by combat for top brass (only).
[17:48:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatOutdoors [6408] 02 - 06Qualcomm Accuses Apple of Passing its Trade Secrets on to Intel - 340 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:27] <exec> 08└─Back in the 90s, Intel paid off nearly every PC manufacturer to keep AMD's chips off the market even though they were better. They even wrote compiler software that was biased against AMD chips (intentionally introduced errors to slow performance when used on an AMD machine). I wouldn't put this pas...
[17:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:49:07] <exec> 08└─Is there some magic reason why the phoning home functions can not be turned off? Are users no longer capable of making decisions for themselves?
[17:49:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 193 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:49:17] <exec> 08└─We need major breaches, bothering very rich people. That's the only way we're gonna get any sensible laws about private-info databases and the obsolete concepts of SSNs and credit card numbers.
[17:49:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03pvanhoof [4638] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:49:44] <exec> 08└─Well I actually use a MicroSD card for my disk encryption luks keys. I figured that a USB device has a active component that has DMA access. So if my USB stick would get infected by malicious code (a so called BadUSB thingy) then I don't need to use it to get my LVM disk volumes mounted. I don't thi...
[17:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:51:20] <exec> 08└─Monopolist doesn't mean "has all the customers", it means controls the supply of $product/$service. Google doesn't and can't for search engines. Google isn't on top because they can control what people search for, it's on top because they have a reputation for providing the most relevant results ver...
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[18:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:54] <exec> 08└─Brian Acton gave up $850M in unvested stock. What a moron! Keep your fucking head low for the next 5 years or whatevs, and then leave with nearly a billion dollars to poor into your anti-Facebook campaign. Make Facebook pay to protest Facebook. I swear. I have no idea how these people make it to suc...
[18:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:04] <exec> 08└─Hm... didn't even notice when it came out - still thought it was all class-based routing/allocation. Reminds me, IP routing schemes, with autonomous domains and so forth, are pretty damn clever, and apparently pretty robust. A very nice piece of engineering. It works so seamlessly that most (like t...
[18:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:06] <exec> 08└─Well, since you brought up the topic, I was mostly curious to see who contributed the lonely post to this article...
[18:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:18] <exec> 08└─From: https://journals.plos.org [plos.org] The earliest reference in this paper is: 26. Hoch JA. Genetic analysis of pleiotropic negative sporulation mutants in Bacillus subtilis. J Bacteriol. 1971 Mar;105(3):896–901. pmid:4994039 So,...
[18:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:19] <exec> 08└─The other would be how to prevent it from happening.
[18:44:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 35 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:23] <exec> 08└─news of an attempt to install a CoC
[18:44:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 462 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:30] <exec> 08└─"Interesting that he stepped down ..." What's most interesting to me is that the mail in which he announced his withdrawal contained a matching pair of smart double-quotes, and a single smart apostrophe. Linus almost entirely sticks to ASCII, in particular on LKML. Which implies to me one of two thi...
[18:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06MINERVA-II Rovers Send Back Images from the Surface of Asteroid Ryugu - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:29] <exec> 08└─Looks to me like a standard lens flare, but then, perhaps my tinfoil hat isn't on tight enough :-)
[18:45:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 252 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:57] <exec> 08└─A flock of ITAcopters on the horizon, the setting sun behind them. They don't shoot, in fact they don't seem to carry any weapon But when they are overhead you notice the ominous banner tied on their tail: "Surrender now or NO MORE PIZZAS FOR YOU EVER"
[18:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:24] <exec> 08└─Then again, they can keep their "Pizza Pies." I'll take my corrupt American Pizza any day.
[18:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:26] <exec> 08└─There is a Bible verse I could misquote: Tweet others as you would have them tweet you.
[18:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:28] <exec> 08└─What is really lovely is reading the articles.
[18:47:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:01] <exec> 08└─No, it's 5% of all deaths, which is definitely more than a drop in the bucket. Put another way, if someone said only 1 out of every 2,566 people died when jumping off a cliff. Would you jump off the cliff? Now, here's the kicker. Not all of those 2,566 people consumed alcohol. According to the repor...
[18:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:02] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't related to everyone who had a dose of cough syrup. Or even, the people who occasionally have a drink. The problem is the abuse of alcohol. Even the bible promoted the use of Alcohol for medicinal purposes or even just to make the water drinkable. 1 Timothy 5:23 "23 Drink no longer...
[18:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:04] <exec> 08└─Oh I'm sure somewhere some dumbass has been super high and a death resulted, but statistically insignificant. Also such a dumbass is probably mixing a variety of things, most likely alcohol at the least.
[18:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:07] <exec> 08└─Found the incel! Too bad they stopped handing out prizes, 2018 internet has made it more like finding fish in a barrel.
[18:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:02] <exec> 08└─I think it would have to be a hell of a lot more impressive for "7 billion" to be a legitimate multiplier for anything. TFS says it *might* be as bright as other stars. Which aren't really as bright as aircraft and other crap that's already flying around overhead all the time. So unless you see the...
[18:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:03] <exec> 08└─I grew up in the US and didn't know who Tyson was until a couple years ago. I didn't watch TV as a kid though.
[18:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:05] <exec> 08└─With 8 billion people on the planet, we have already activated a doomsday device which will be fiendishly difficult to defuse. Global Thermonuclear war could seal our fate in 100 hours, but simple overpopulation seems sure to do us in with less than 100 years. I don't really care who gets the scraps...
[18:48:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:07] <exec> 08└─There is no (manmade) object capable of reflecting sunlight from more sky than it physically occupies. If you're doing a long exposure, sure this will be painting a stripe through the sky - but no more than any one of dozens of manmade objects already up there, and if you're really going after a 27...
[18:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:09] <exec> 08└─7B may be optimistic, however 2B of us have smartphones and therefore the capability to easily go outside and see this thing if we should choose to (and the sky is clear...) Even if only 1% of the 2B capable even attempt to see it, that is 20 million, and if 1% of those are in some way positively im...
[18:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:01] <exec> 08└─Why doesn't the Tor project switch both of these releases to some other browser, like Pale Moon. Based on Firefox, with all the phone-home and other cruft removed.
[18:49:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:02] <exec> 08└─I don't trust anyone to install updates on my computers without my permission. I don't want to have to change the settings every time I update and if I wanted convenience I wouldn't be using TBB. Centralized trust tempts capture, if it hasn't happened already, if they don't trust users to keep brows...
[18:49:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 1013 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:16] <exec> 08└─NCIX went bankrupt and shut down. They may not have even had the money to pay someone to wipe the servers, and there's nobody to sue over that at this point. As part of the bankruptcy their assets would be distributed to their creditors to pay off debts, so the landlord presumably acquired the serve...
[18:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NCIX Data Breach - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:18] <exec> 08└─Like the Equifax breach? What ever happened about that again? Oh, right...nothing.
[18:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purism Announces the "Librem Key" - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:49:43] <exec> 08└─I keep my passphrase secret by wearing the t-shirt inside out.
[18:51:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:19] <exec> 08└─It's like a stance that there is no good SPAM. The word is entirely tarnished. Is it possible to legitimately use email in business? I think so.
[18:51:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:20] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree. Another factor that contributes to Google being on top is that it is the path of least resistance. Since I've used it for ages, it took me a while to try another the duck thing. Then a while to bookmark it. Then a while to make a habit of it. Even thought I still use Google search...
[18:51:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03WolvesOfTheNight [4704] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Way to Remove Ice Buildup Without Power or Chemicals - 1135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:51:49] <exec> 08└─My guess is that it sometimes is used. I am not sure how hard it would be to characterize the temperature behavior of the system to correctly trigger deicing. There may be confounding factors, such as extreme outside (or inside) temperatures changing the average system temperature enough to mess wit...
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[19:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:43] <exec> 08└─At least jmorris will be very happy about this.
[19:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:44] <exec> 08└─If it's 5 years, who knows if FB stock will be worth anything by then?
[19:43:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:46] <exec> 08└─I'm sure it will be worth much more than nothing.
[19:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:49] <exec> 08└─Even if the value dropped 99% (99 fucking percent!), he would still receive 8.5 million dollars! And, he'd be getting a pretty good salary no doubt. Goddamn. I'm surrounded by idiots.
[19:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:51] <exec> 08└─I had a terrifying thought. What if they were a billionaire with some kind of ethical boundary. It defies all reason, but just imagine, it'd be fucking crazy. I genuinely don't think it's likely, but what if facebook were doing something that was so bad it was more important than money?
[19:43:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:53] <exec> 08└─what if facebook were doing something that was so bad it was more important than money?
[19:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:55] <exec> 08└─Yes, but who would invest 5 years of their life going to a job they hate, just so they can collect a few millions or hundreds of millions at the end ? Don't be silly.
[19:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:43:57] <exec> 08└─Most of the entire world's population. They do it everyday for less.
[19:44:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:10] <exec> 08└─Let us toast it with a cider.
[19:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you're right. It's 500% sadder for me to care about who cares than for someone to just care about a silly anniversary.
[19:44:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:13] <exec> 08└─An IPv4 enters a bar... and you won't believe what it said.
[19:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:15] <exec> 08└─What was technically challenging about it? If I understood this right, the granularity of LANs generally used at that time was 8 bits (so 254 hosts available), and then they decided to hand out even smaller networks, down to 3 bits for 6 available hosts. I was just an infant on the net at that time,...
[19:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rich [945] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:57] <exec> 08└─Vorombe titan did not weight as much as an African elephant.
[19:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:38] <exec> 08└─Obviously the UH-60 no longer fulfills the mission parameters, thus the competition. And if you had read the article you would know this.
[19:47:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:39] <exec> 08└─Thank you, internet man, for sharing your unique insight on the US military. I'm sure your opinion was taken into consideration with the experts who'd dedicated their careers to studying the needs of the military and have deep insight to the problems the modern military faces.
[19:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:41] <exec> 08└─Most of those experts push the narrative that the US needs to be ready for a two-theater World War III, and that US military bases or activities in over 100 countries are a good thing. My point exactly.
[19:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:19] <exec> 08└─You forget or do you deliberately ignore the fact that access time to large telescopes is limited and expensive? Let me use a car analogy: it's like you hire a Ferrari to have your one hour travel ruined by a streaker driving a tractor in front of you.
[19:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 1145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's a more reasonable number :) I'm not really buying the argument that it's going to "destroy science" in any significant amount...but it does seem like a waste of money and rockets. It's their money, they can do what they want I guess, but this doesn't seem particularly productive conside...
[19:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:23] <exec> 08└─If you live your life for one trip in a Ferrari, it sucks to be you. Likewise, bitching about this single extra confounder is like bitching because there's ANOTHER lorry using the M1 when you get your Ferrari time. Personally, those rolling advert trucks that intentionally drive slow during commute...
[19:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:25] <exec> 08└─Well, being visible is "doing something" - although Sputnik was maybe more impressive with its AM transmitter, but.. that's been done and who has portable AM radios anymore (and knows how to use it)? I would wish for "better science," but on the other hand, most really good science is far beyond the...
[19:56:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Quitting Junk Food Produces Similar Withdrawal-Type Symptoms as Drug Addiction - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:56:02] <exec> 08└─We're beating this to death, but pizza crust is not bread, as much as bobboli would like everybody to think it is.
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[20:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:02] <exec> 08└─You pull in telemetry data from TOR browser bundle, exposing activists and journalists to torture and death, and you expect us to trust you with our email addresses... so you can sell them to Facebook, perhaps?
[20:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:04] <exec> 08└─Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! And then THAT "registry" gets hacked. Like the do-not-call-list. Insert next joke.
[20:43:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:21] <exec> 08└─Guys, language is meant to put one person's thoughts into another person's head. This thread here is talking about ONE MAN. When you say "they", nothing makes much sense, especially when you mix it with singular forms such as in "What if they were a billionaire"; that makes no sense—my mind tries...
[20:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:22] <exec> 08└─What makes you think he is a moron? Money is not a measure of all things, I'm quite certain that 5 years worth of time is far more valuable then 850 mill usd. Doubly so if one has freedom to NOT suffer useless demagogues (like you) , of which Silly Valley seems full of. Also, what great heights? Thi...
[20:43:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:24] <exec> 08└─That last sentence should be: "she" et al. are meant to refer to special, precious things such as women or boats, etc.
[20:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:27] <exec> 08└─I assumed ikanreed was talking about multiple hypothetical Facebook insiders.
[20:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:29] <exec> 08└─"What if there were a billionaire with some kind of ethical boundary?" People forget (read: don't know) that the singular present subjunctive mood of "to be" is "were", not "was", making the above re-interpretation quite plausible. So, basically, I was stuck re-reading the remarks, trying out diffe...
[20:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sporulation Initiation Pathway in Bacilli and Clostridia Bacteria Originated 2.7 Billion Years Ago - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:56] <exec> 08└─That's a lot of stink! :O :P {/ failed humor attempt}
[20:45:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 1718 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:20] <exec> 08└─"But this licence can be revoked at any time." No. The license was granted by you to those you distributed it to. The license you distributed with the code granted those people you distributed it to redistribution rights. You can absolutely choose to stop distributing it any time you like. But that...
[20:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:12] <exec> 08└─I forgot Chinooks! Hey, if anyone wants to give away their Huey, A-10 or Chinook, i'm interested.
[20:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03mrchew1982 [3565] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:13] <exec> 08└─The Marines that ride and fly them everyday still have a big hard on for them... I mean it's still tragic that 42 service members died because something went wrong, but as far as I'm aware those deaths lead to the discovery of flaws which were later fixed in hardware by the company or fixed in wetwa...
[20:49:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:49] <exec> 08└─I don't trust anyone to install updates on my computers without my permission.
[20:52:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Workers Discussed Tweaking Search Function to Counter Travel Ban - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:10] <exec> 08└─Eh, it's not as wide as you think. Most of the stuff they have besides Android and YouTube is garbage compared to other free services or products out there. Just Android the OS, mind you, not the Google apps.
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[21:43:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:58] <exec> 08└─No it doesn't. Why would a software company who primarily develops a web browser offer this service? It doesn't make any sense.
[21:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:59] <exec> 08└─perfect sense [wikipedia.org] Straight out of the Microsoft playbook.
[21:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:24] <exec> 08└─The whole point of money is to help people measure all things. Life is about allocating resources to this or to that. To help you decide, you need a way to make measurements; money is that measuring technology—which is why governments are so keen to grab or keep absolute control over it.
[21:44:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:37] <exec> 08└─An IPv4 enters a bar... and you won't believe what it said.
[21:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:39] <exec> 08└─Don't know/remember much about this classless routing. But internet routing in general, separate protocols for internal routing and external routing to allow autonomous systems, modulating the routing table update schedule, discovering the route when only thing the dns gives you is IP address, all w...
[21:45:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct - 808 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:47] <exec> 08└─I'm not ready to call Linux dead, but obviously we've hit a fork in the road, pun intended. My feeling is, and has always been, that Linux is Linus' project. He's always had a very direct, sometimes insulting persona, and nobody should be surprised by it. If he's too mean-spirited, vulgar, gruff, wh...
[21:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:18] <exec> 08└─Pedophile.
[21:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Vorombe titan: World's Largest Bird Weighed Up to 800 Kilograms - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:20] <exec> 08└─Wait until the discover the fat-ass American version!
[21:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tor Browser Bundle 8.0 Sends OS+kernel+TOTAL_PING_COUNT in Update Queries to Mozilla - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:50:46] <exec> 08└─This seems like a good time to reference the privacy/hardening list. [github.com] Unlike fucking Chromium which requires patching the source code to strip out Google references, Firefox enables you to sack the undesirable crap via config. Granted it would have been better to ship with no undesirabl...
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[22:44:00] <exec> 08└─Another reason I am somewhat dubious about this, is that they seem to just (as in all they do) show you the data from Have I Been Pwned. So why would I go to Firefox Monitor, when all they offer, according to their own terms, is a "Full Report" from HIBP, Breach Alerts from FM (which HIBP provides d...
[22:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:24] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaF-nRS_CWM [youtube.com]
[22:44:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:40] <exec> 08└─Of it was a new iPv6 bar, it wouldn't have been able to find the address..
[22:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Blackhawks Beaten by Italian-designed Helicopter for Air Force UH-1 Replacement - 1300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:12] <exec> 08└─Yep. And if you read TFA closer you would have read that it was the UH-1 which no longer fulfills the mission parameters, not the Blackhawk. Since the Blackhawk was in the competition it met the the first round of bid requirements, as it is stupidly wasted money to put up something that can't meet (...
[22:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:51] <exec> 08└─Isn't that why all our economically responsible despondent shooter-types have large clips and poor training? More rounds expended and more non-fatal injuries -- more market opportunities.
[22:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06World Health Organization: Alcohol Killed 3 Million People in 2016 - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:52] <exec> 08└─Only after some serious thought . . . https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
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[23:44:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glyphosate May Contribute to Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:33] <exec> 08└─Keep bees yourself. From time to time a new queen will be born then will leave the hive in search of an unused one. Wild bees are good for farmers too. To keep bees is quite cool. My father was a beekeeper as was his mother. I plan to keep bees myself but am not doing so yet because I must dig mysel...
[23:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glyphosate May Contribute to Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:34] <exec> 08└─I did. I kept bees in my car one spring. It worked alright for a little while. But, they never built a beehive. Then, I returned to my car one hot day, and found their dried up husks on the rear deck, all scrunched up against the window. That was the end of that.
[23:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Glyphosate May Contribute to Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:36] <exec> 08└─The reality is that CCD came into being around the same time that millennial bees reached breeding age. It seems likely that the explosion of bee genders that followed is what led to CCD, as queen bees became uncertain as to whether they were actually king bees trapped in queen bee bodies, and other...
[23:44:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japanese Company ispace Plans Two Missions to the Moon - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:47] <exec> 08└─There is something wrong with this reporting, I don't think a falcon 9 is capable of getting anything caring humans into trans-lunar orbit, it must be at least a falcon heavy.
[23:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03esperto123 [4303] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japanese Company ispace Plans Two Missions to the Moon - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:49] <exec> 08└─When I read lunar lander I thought it would include the meatbags, apparently is only machines. my bad.
[23:44:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japanese Company ispace Plans Two Missions to the Moon - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:51] <exec> 08└─The spacecraft they are carrying will have fuel as part of its mass too.
[23:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Japanese Company ispace Plans Two Missions to the Moon - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:53] <exec> 08└─ispace, huh? Betcha Steve Jobs revs with some extra RPMs in his grave. the company, called ispace, which has grander ambitions of becoming a lunar delivery service one day.
[23:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:05] <exec> 08└─I tried their service and they said my email address wsn't acceptable as it violates the Mozilla CoC.
[23:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:06] <exec> 08└─And, wait! that's not all! We'll be throwing in the deal the pwnage of all your accounts via the hacked registry service! Free of charge!! That's right, all you have to do is the register all your accounts and you'll get a life lesson for free, no strings attached.
[23:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Firefox Monitor Will Let You Know When Your Accounts Have Been Compromised - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:09] <exec> 08└─Teach you right! Next time, be inclusive, try Mozilla CuNT.
[23:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:35] <exec> 08└─Folks, singular "they" is THE SHIT.
[23:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:36] <exec> 08└─iow, property?
[23:45:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:38] <exec> 08└─The explosive usefulness of modern, variable-based mathematical logic can be traced back to this revelation: Making a statement about a single object is far superior to making an Aristotelian statement about a group of objects. Stupid, mundane communication can bear singular "they", because it's eas...
[23:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:40] <exec> 08└─"Is your wife special to you?" "Yes." "Is your boat special to you?" "Yes." "Misogynist! Have you stopped beating your wife yet?!"
[23:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:42] <exec> 08└─This is why they don't do anything that may land them in the position of throwing away zillions, because they'll never do anything worth these money.
[23:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Instagram Co-Founders to Step Down From Facebook - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:45] <exec> 08└─Somebody got triggered. The only grammatical error in "What if they were a billionaire with some kind of ethical boundary." is the punctuation at the end. What is a question word, so the terminating punctuation should have been a question mark. Languages change over time. Deal with it, cupcake.
[23:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:01] <exec> 08└─Nah, mate. The (old already) canonical continuation is : " ... and says 'A strong CIDR please, I'm exhausted'" Cheers.
[23:46:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:03] <exec> 08└─Then the barman might aay they'd already had their fill.
[23:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:05] <exec> 08└─...of the CIDR house rules :) Coolness. Now if only I could bloody figure out IPv6! Those addresses are impossible compared to a nice, phone-number-size v4 addy.
[23:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Happy [Belated] #CIDRDay! 25 Years of CIDR Addressing - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:07] <exec> 08└─I, me reader, do care. Because about 5 years ago, my /etc/hosts.allow stopped working after an upgrade. It was the '/24' that was now no longer accepted, and I had to change it to 255.255.255.0. Google couldn't tell me where or why the change was made. It broke my home and office networks for a larg...
[23:46:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct [Updated] - 452 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:36] <exec> 08└─It's not that hard. Any group that has things to do, has more important stuff than worrying about people's widdle feelings. When the group begins to worry excessively about those widdle feelings, then the group falls apart. If it doesn't fall apart entirely, then the remaining group's mission in lif...
[23:46:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct [Updated] - 54 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:50] <exec> 08└─Would you say you would be in a complete kernel panic?
[23:46:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct [Updated] - 1739 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:53] <exec> 08└─It's not the whole "equality" or "inclusion" aspects here that bother me; I'm all for that, and any sane meritocracy proponent would see that if you have a limited demographic for whatever reason then you are statistically likely to be missing out on merit-worthy contributions from people who are re...
[23:47:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03exaeta [6957] 02 - 06Eric S. Raymond Speaks in Regards to the Linux Code of Conduct [Updated] - 762 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:17] <exec> 08└─It doesn't work that way. The GPLv2 is a copyright license to the code, not a license to the project. You might be able to argue a breach of implied contract with the Linux kernel project, but that doesn't give you a right to violate the license of GPLv2. It's the same reason Red Hat is able to stop...
[23:51:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Entropy [4228] 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 276 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:02] <exec> 08└─"By sending an object with no military value into space, Paglen said he hopes to raise a conversation about who is allowed to operate past Earth's atmosphere." -> "I'm going to do something really stupid so people will have to make a rule against doing obviously stupid crap."
[23:51:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Another Highly Reflective Art Object Will be Launched Into Orbit in November - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:26] <exec> 08└─The difference between this and other lorries - all the other lorries point their shiny surfaces away from you and the rest of the surfaces are diffusive. This bitch is: - all glitz and glitter - closer to your Ferrari (remember that inverse square with the distance attenuation?) than the lorries -...
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