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[00:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:52] <exec> 08└─My mouse has a scrollwheel. When I encounter a topic that doesn't fascinate me, I scroll past that. I DON'T feel a need to click the link and make a comment bitching about that story being included on the front page. ...and as we always say, ANYBODY can submit a story. [soylentnews.org] Even you. [s...
[00:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:54] <exec> 08└─How many had kids without being able to afford it?
[00:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:56] <exec> 08└─That's a feature, not a bug. By having inflation intentionally higher than the interest rates available, it forces people to invest their money in the stock market as that's the only way most people have for coping with inflation. There's a couple of US bonds that are indexed to inflation, so you do...
[00:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:58] <exec> 08└─Actually, I don't view him as a liar (like I do most politicians). He admits openly that he is not to be trusted about anything: "You never know, you know again, the word -- I don't know what the word permanent means, OK? I never know what the word permanent means.
[00:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03oakgrove [5864] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 680 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:01] <exec> 08└─Sassy! But you're missing the point. Thing is, yes, I can keep scrolling but if the content here is just a rehash of every other tech/politics clickbait blog then what am I scrolling to? To survive and keep those donations rolling in, Soylent needs a differentiator. It isn't the community, let's be...
[00:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:03] <exec> 08└─trickle down doesn't work
[00:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:05] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/politics/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=26245&commentsort=0&mode=threadtos&threshold=-1&highlightthresh=-1&page=1&cid=696469#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
[00:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:07] <exec> 08└─While I don't doubt that the impact of capping the SALT deduction wipes out any benefit for well off people in high-tax states. I think you're underestimating the benefit to most ordinary people in low tax states. For people who have incomes that fall into the middle class range and take the standar...
[00:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:10] <exec> 08└─That depends a lot on which state you live in. In high state income tax states such as CA, a lot more people (myself included) will pay more in Federal tax.
[00:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, that's overkill. And yes, many innocent people will die. But we are in an existential crisis and we MUST STOP THE DEEP STATE FROM DESTROYING OUR BELOVED COUNTRY!!! Trump 2020!!!
[00:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:14] <exec> 08└─And at a certain point any extra money they would be making was so taxed that there wasn't any real point in screwing over the workers as they'd have to give virtually all of it back to the government.
[00:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:16] <exec> 08└─Oh I don't doubt it based on the level of echo in this particular chamber, I'm sure any dissenting voice isn't particularly welcome. That's probably why half the comments here boil down to throwaway one liners like yours.
[00:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:19] <exec> 08└─30% of what, though?
[00:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06HPE Delivers World’s Largest Arm Supercomputer for U.S. Department of Energy - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:32] <exec> 08└─Delivers, delivered, WILL deliver Who cares about meaning and tense. " I will deliver, yesterday, what you order a year ago." Yeah, still makes sense.
[00:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06HPE Delivers World’s Largest Arm Supercomputer for U.S. Department of Energy - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:33] <exec> 08└─Best Overall Over-clocked Bsd Server (o)(o) For TMB, lol.
[00:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06HPE Delivers World’s Largest Arm Supercomputer for U.S. Department of Energy - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:36] <exec> 08└─That's cool. I was lazy on this one. Enjoy your weed (esp. if ur Canadian).
[00:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06HPE Delivers World’s Largest Arm Supercomputer for U.S. Department of Energy - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:38] <exec> 08└─Intel can name their upcoming discrete card Legendary End-user Graphics.
[00:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06HPE Delivers World’s Largest Arm Supercomputer for U.S. Department of Energy - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:40] <exec> 08└─Don't question the headline case logic.
[00:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:16:11] <exec> 08└─So to be clear from TFS, he was found out by the internal counsel? So he kept it secret a while? Its not surprising but still disappointing when these leaders (supposed statesmen) who sign off and endorse company values and policies go and break them themselves. Why would any employee want to adhere...
[00:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03toddestan [4982] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Week in Space Pessimism: SLS, Mars, and Lunar Gateway - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:23] <exec> 08└─It wouldn't be trivial to intentionally crash one satellite into another, but that's certainly an option too.
[00:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Fined $6.8M in Australia After Error 53 Problems - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:01] <exec> 08└─It's the other way around. A comprable iPhone is almost always more expensive than a given Android. Usually much more expensive, unless you're looking at the "halo" phones at the very top end.
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[01:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:20] <exec> 08└─SN and similar sites will likely have to be blocked in Europe if this bull (typo but I'm keeping it) passes parliament.
[01:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:21] <exec> 08└─Only then can we render the issue moot and end this stupid argument. Sure wish that what goes in the EU would stay in the EU, but the US will soon impose the same thing. If we kill the ISP then anybody can serve what they want without breaking any stupid terms of service that only serve to protect t...
[01:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:23] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the US and other nations will "harmonize" their copyright rules with Europe's.
[01:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:25] <exec> 08└─If they thought for one second this would survive a first amendment challenge, it would already be here. You won't be seeing something like this in the US anytime soon. Now something else entirely that is also bad, sure but not this.
[01:14:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NewNic [6420] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 298 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:01] <exec> 08└─That depends a lot on which state you live in. In high state income tax states such as CA, a lot more people (myself included) will pay more in Federal tax. The tax "cut" was cynically designed to benefit: 1. Very wealthy people by a large amount 2. Ordinary people in red states by a small amount.
[01:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:25] <exec> 08└─Just to add to this. From what I can find, recent history indicates that people in the situation I was describing represent ~70% of the taxpayers (i.e. ~30% of filers choose to itemize)
[01:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:26] <exec> 08└─In 1944-45 the top tax bracket, over $200,000 (2.9 million in 2009 dollars), was taxed at 94%. If the corporation is only pocketing 6% of every additional dollar it earns, it's probably a lot better off dumping the whole dollar into salaries or other operating costs in order to grow the business and...
[01:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:28] <exec> 08└─So basically you say: “Fuck you, I got mine!"
[01:14:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:31] <exec> 08└─https://imgflip.com/i/wj62b [imgflip.com]
[01:14:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:33] <exec> 08└─Gee, that would be such a shame! /s
[01:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:35] <exec> 08└─The effective tax rate was less than that. Still better than what we have now, though.
[01:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:37] <exec> 08└─One thing to note about this article is that it doesn't account for the personal income tax cuts in its "analysis" of the tax cuts. All it says is that the corporate tax cuts haven't impacted gross hourly wages on average. Even if this meant that few people were getting raises (not necessarily true*...
[01:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03oakgrove [5864] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:39] <exec> 08└─Duly noted!
[01:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:42] <exec> 08└─this ain't exactly Hacker News level of discourse.
[01:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:44] <exec> 08└─Most workers really don't have money to invest as they are living hand to mouth. So most people do not invest in the stock market. Here where I live, in central California, most people cannot even invest in buying their own homes. That was something just about everyone could do in the '50s and '60s....
[01:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 1264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:46] <exec> 08└─So you obviously don't pay attention. This site is quite well split between the various chambers of political thought. Sometimes the conservatives hop on quicker and sometimes the liberals do. "dissenting voice"? You make it sound like you're about to be dragged off to the gulag. Do you NOT read any...
[01:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon and AT&T Will Stop Selling Your Phone's Location to Data Brokers - 1192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:16] <exec> 08└─The amount of data that these businesses have about people is truly terrifying: - Home address / Billing address (if they can't get this from the info you provide them, they can deduce it from location data - see below) - Full record of all calls made and received, including timing - Location (24/7)...
[01:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06CEO of Amazon/Berkshire/JPMorgan Health Care Company Chosen - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:15:31] <exec> 08└─So this guy: - Is an active surgeon - Teaches at Harvard - Is an author - And is now taking on a CEO role for a new (presumably large) health care company I can't see how there are enough hours in the day to be able to do all of these things well. If I were any of his employers, I would be very conc...
[01:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:40] <exec> 08└─Ummm, thanks for the informative reply... but I was going more along the lines that the former CFO, soon-to-be-new CEO, was named "Robert Swan"... hence my assertion that it "Sure has all the makings of being a 'Swan' song. ;)"
[01:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:42] <exec> 08└─Oh. Whoosh! LOL
[01:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Fined $6.8M in Australia After Error 53 Problems - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:32] <exec> 08└─If it costs more to repair an item in warranty than replace it, the ACCC will rip that company a new one. Typically this results in the consumer being given a new replacement free of charge.
[01:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Fined $6.8M in Australia After Error 53 Problems - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:34] <exec> 08└─Apple have demonstrated pro-privacy positions multiple times in the past. Australian banks tried to resist Apple Pay for ages because it didn't have the ability to share spending profiles/habits with the banks. Google have demonstrated anti-privacy positions multiple times in the past. I'm not sayin...
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[02:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:24] <exec> 08└─Meh. The US government violates the Constitution all the time, and often with approval from our treacherous courts. For example, obscenity laws are a blatant violation of the first amendment, and yet the courts invented the Miller Test out of thin air to justify them. The courts also have an insanel...
[02:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:26] <exec> 08└─Somewhere someone is going to make a lot of money selling automatic copyright filters. And they bribed the right people.
[02:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 1425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:28] <exec> 08└─Small ones can't pay for the overhead of scanning. And based in what happened with Google News in Spain, it could mean a bigger massacre, hitting everyone. For those that still didn't hear about it, Spanish newspapers wanted to be paid for the links & quotes in Google News so they pushed for a law t...
[02:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 775 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:30] <exec> 08└─Indeed. This is the greatest gift the EU could ever hope to give the Silicon Valley giants. This will deliver their domestic market to Google et al with wrapped in a little bow cementing dominance by giant US corps. for as long as this law exists assuming it ultimately passes. The little guys can't...
[02:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 1057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:32] <exec> 08└─I refuse. SN should also. Fuck literally everything about this. Automated filters cannot and will never be able to handle fair use. The copyright landscape is a fucking nightmare, with different things in the public domain in different countries. As far as I know, SN is not based in Europe. Fuck the...
[02:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:35] <exec> 08└─The "content cartels" are going to kill the internet before this is over. They have already wounded it badly.
[02:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06An Arduino-Powered Tank Built to Pull Planes - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:42] <exec> 08└─I used a Raspberry Pi to control the mood lighting on my private jet.
[02:13:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snow [1601] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 103 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:55] <exec> 08└─If you are at a party and some asshole takes a piss in the punch bowl, it's tough not to talk about it.
[02:14:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 298 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:14] <exec> 08└─Whatabout? WHATABOUT???? This isn't a partisan issue. Stop trying to hide the elephant in the room. We have a lying scumbag in office, public statements from him detailing his own depravity, and here you are trying to evade the very simple fact with stupid whataboutisms. Whatabout getting a spine?
[02:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:47] <exec> 08└─Part of the problem these days, so many crazies have been given free reign that it is no longer safe to assume sarcasm.
[02:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:49] <exec> 08└─I don't know about the term "neoliberalism". I would just call it what it is; neonineteenth century robber baron-ism.
[02:14:50] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 3291 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:51] <exec> 08└─Trickle-down was always a lie. Not a mistake, not an incorrect theory, but something that was known by the people promoting the idea to be complete nonsense. The Reagan administration came into power with a very clear goal: Eliminate as many federal government programs as possible, especially Social...
[02:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:53] <exec> 08└─Your deduction went down 3k (allegedly). You'll know if your taxes went down at the end of the year. You're assuming that the Trump admin did some math correctly which hasn't had a great track record thus far.
[02:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:55] <exec> 08└─Do you have any evidence that the claims in the article are false, or are you just dismissing them as "partisan bullshit" because they don't agree with your previously held beliefs? If so, provide it. Otherwise, I'm going to attribute your reaction to the classic cognitive dissonance response of "My...
[02:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:58] <exec> 08└─My wife and I have four kids, so the axe on exemptions hurts. Even with the new larger standard deduction and new lower tax bracket percentages my tax liability went up. I caught the ugly end of the income curve, if our gross household income was $50k lower we would be ahead a few thousand per year...
[02:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:00] <exec> 08└─The facts of the situation aren't partisan. The GOP lied its ass off about the impact of the tax cuts on non-wealthy Americans, and here we are. Now if you don't like the fact that SoylentNews is running the article instead of discussing, say, the latest release of PHP or similar then you have a ca...
[02:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03oakgrove [5864] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:02] <exec> 08└─Do you have any evidence that the claims in the article are false, or are you just dismissing them as "partisan bullshit" because they don't agree with your previously held beliefs?
[02:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:04] <exec> 08└─But it's not partisan news, just political news.
[02:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:07] <exec> 08└─Whether or not it's the theory behind the Federal Reserve: Starting in 2008, the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates as far as they could possibly go in an effort to counteract the financial crash and resulting crash of the "real economy" (production and distribution of goods and services, rather...
[02:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:09] <exec> 08└─Physician, heal thyself
[02:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:11] <exec> 08└─Especially with a high uid like that.
[02:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:13] <exec> 08└─You dismissed information without providing any reason whatsoever other than "it's partisan bullshit". That means either you believe: - All information that potentially contradicts my currently held ideas about the effects of tax cuts is partisan bullshit, or - I don't have any ideas about the effec...
[02:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:16] <exec> 08└─Back off, I have a ™ on grin-ing to counter Poe's (grin)
[02:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:18] <exec> 08└─You lie!
[02:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:20] <exec> 08└─Yup. The Gilded Age was brought under control via the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890. Within the lifetimes of many of us, the enforcement of that has been abandoned/disassembled. Reagan was a notable inflection point but Jimmy Carter's deregulation of trucking and telecommunications are things that...
[02:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:22] <exec> 08└─I don't know that pwned is the right term - Congress suffered no defeat or even compromise, they no doubt mostly made out like bandits doing exactly what they signed on to the job to do. Owned is a far more appropriate term - leased at the very least.
[02:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06CEO of Amazon/Berkshire/JPMorgan Health Care Company Chosen - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:16:08] <exec> 08└─He is dropping at least one of his roles: But he said he will transition from being executive director to chairman of Ariadne Labs
[02:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:19] <exec> 08└─So the employee had Intel inside? Did they get over-clocked? How much RAM was involved? GiggityBytes?
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[03:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:17] <exec> 08└─This sounds like a job for Spaaaaace Foooorce! [soylentnews.org]
[03:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:18] <exec> 08└─With any luck, we can drag the Earth into the Sun.
[03:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03qzm [3260] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:21] <exec> 08└─Just a few assumptions here, however the largest one seems to be WHY would they do that? 'harvesting' stars, while perhaps an interesting thought experiment, seems like a rather surprising (and high effort/energy) solution, and not without its issues, since of course it consumes a rather large propo...
[03:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:23] <exec> 08└─In the middle of the planet's second ocean, great, impossible masses of thick columnar crystals began to leap upward from the waters. Translucent at first, the chalcedony towers began to pulse with deep inner fires: blue, purple, gold, carmine, and finally a strange, yet familiar silvergray. The ion...
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[03:13:25] <exec> 08└─"We moved our world. We found that a sun was a liability rather than an asset. We moved our world to a tenth of a light year's distance, keeping the primary only as an anchor. We needed the farming worlds and it would have been dangerous to let our world wander randomly through space. Otherwise we w...
[03:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:27] <exec> 08└─This paper is an interesting assumption that is based on theory that is based on a hypothesis. Nothing is known about such advanced civilizations. Do they need to spend billions of years on gathering balls of hydrogen? Maybe they are energy beings already; maybe they live in a single silicon crystal...
[03:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:30] <exec> 08└─Complete lack of FTL/warp drive is a big assumption, but one that physicists safely make.
[03:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:32] <exec> 08└─Okay - you've got a fusion reactor - where are you getting your fuel? Suck dry a gas giant? That won't last long - gas giants are tiny - you'll burn it all off LONG before the star it's orbiting. The sun is 99.9% of the mass of our solar system - about 1000x more massive than Jupiter. Stars are *the...
[03:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:48] <exec> 08└─They're welcome to block us if they like. I'm not typing one extra character to accommodate this nonsense though.
[03:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:50] <exec> 08└─SN is not based in Europe. Fuck them.
[03:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:52] <exec> 08└─How similar does it need to be before you have to censor it? How many lines in lyrics borrow from and reference other works? Do you block the oldest because it's out of copyright, but "infringes" on the new work that's still protected? Do you just block all of it because you can't possibly afford al...
[03:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:54] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, the US and other nations will "harmonize" their copyright rules with Europe's
[03:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:57] <exec> 08└─********* ******* ** ***** ** **** * *** ** ***** ******* ********* ********* *******. *** **** ****** *** ***** ******.
[03:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:59] <exec> 08└─After all, they'll need to allow for fair use surely? Oh silly me, I forgot nobody paid anyone to ensure that's protected. (Seriously though, it would be pretty easy to code something so that 'infringing content' must be more than a certain period e.g. 10 seconds and more than a certain percentage e...
[03:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:27] <exec> 08└─The silence is deafening.
[03:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:29] <exec> 08└─No, you misunderstood. What you may have heard was "Trickle down", but what they said and meant was "Tinkle down".
[03:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:31] <exec> 08└─And people who paid $1k last year are getting a $300 tax cut. Percentage alone tells you nothing.
[03:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:33] <exec> 08└─Yup. It's called The Two Santa Claus Model [wikipedia.org] It dates to 1976. In addition to tax-and-spend Democrats, there were now borrow-and-spend Republicans who cut taxes, mounted up debts, and, as soon as the Ds got power, the Rs squawked about those debts (which the Rs had run up). Arthur Laff...
[03:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:35] <exec> 08└─Im an accountant, i dont have to rely on the trump admin for how the taxes will work out. The changes were pretty simple.
[03:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:37] <exec> 08└─So you'd prefer to have a good liar in office rather than a bad one? I'll take the bad one every time. You can find the truth far more easily when given bad lies compared to being given misleading data. Misleading is far, far worse.
[03:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:40] <exec> 08└─No one is arguing that he isn't. The problem is you guys are acting like everyone else is perfect. They aren't, so stop pretending they are. Saying a liar should be booted out of office is being an asshole because you can catch everyone else in politics lying as well but you aren't calling for them...
[03:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:42] <exec> 08└─And here you are, captaining the new normal. #SAD ess joooke comrade
[03:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:44] <exec> 08└─No one is acting like everyone else is perfect. In fact, every time someone brings up Obama the standard reply is "he's a scumbag too, but that is a tangential point so stop trying to evade the real point."
[03:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 885 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:46] <exec> 08└─"This election was lost four and five and six years ago not this year. They dident start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour. The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer....
[03:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:42] <exec> 08└─> there is a big world of women out there. Binders full.
[03:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:44] <exec> 08└─Some Japanese cellist.
[03:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:46] <exec> 08└─It's not about math. It's about insider trading. Whether you make or lose money doesn't determine whether it is insider trading or not.
[03:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:48] <exec> 08└─Don't believe these candy ass motherfuckers when they regale you about their 4:30am workouts and 72 hours of meetings in 4 countries. Their lives aren't hard.
[03:17:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:51] <exec> 08└─Guess you were in your zombie mode that time ;). BTW the original AC already made the joke - he capitalized Swan in swan song. Martyb just emphasized the joke and then dissected it for you...
[03:20:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06This Week in Space Pessimism: SLS, Mars, and Lunar Gateway - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:05] <exec> 08└─If you could do that, it would be much easier to just de-orbit the satellite.
[03:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06This Week in Space Pessimism: SLS, Mars, and Lunar Gateway - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:06] <exec> 08└─Elon Musks pipedreams of a mars colony are nowhere near feasible. Living on Mars will be highly dangerous, highly uncomfortable and probably not sustainable with the current technology.
[03:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03evilcam [3239] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Fined $6.8M in Australia After Error 53 Problems - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:47] <exec> 08└─+1 Australian consumer law, whilst not perfect, is a damn sight better than other parts of the world. "No Refunds" is all but illegal here, and that's a good thing.
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[04:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:38] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the Puppeteers are cowards focused on short-term survival. Without a sun those planets will freeze solid within a few millions, or at most billions of years. A nice stable red dwarf would offer a thousand times that, with a much more generous energy budget. Cluster a few together and you...
[04:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:39] <exec> 08└─Maybe they're made of dark matter and dark energy like >90% of everything in this universe. And we're the fringe case.
[04:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 1033 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:41] <exec> 08└─Routinely making an assumption isn't the same as it being a safe assumption. Unless you're just talking about your professional reputation, in which case yes - you're far safer avoiding challenging any widely accepted assumptions. Ignoring the possibility of FTL does certainly makes things simpler -...
[04:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:14:04] <exec> 08└─If a big label artist 'samples' my work, does my work get blocked? This is going to be something where only the media cartels get protection isn't it?
[04:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:15:43] <exec> 08└─And I thought congress was to have been disbanded by now. So many broken promises.
[04:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada Becomes the Second Nation to Legalize Cannabis - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:30] <exec> 08└─Define addicted and habitual.
[04:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This Week in Space Pessimism: SLS, Mars, and Lunar Gateway - 569 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:20:02] <exec> 08└─Spot on. Compromising the command and control system is the easiest approach. Failing that things get much harder, more expensive, and more attributable. Trying to take out a satellite with another satellite is non-trivial. Space is really big, and they aren't designed with radar for finding their n...
[04:21:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IEEE Releases the International Roadmap for Devices and Systems (IRDS) - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:21:12] <exec> 08└─Star Trek existed back then. We knew it would happen, we just didn't know how long it would take to shrink them.
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[05:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:16] <exec> 08└─Will you trus Theresa May or a bunch of ruffian scientists all over the world? Theresa is after all the bloody PM!
[05:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:17] <exec> 08└─Well, at least one of the colonies got it right.
[05:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 1243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:20] <exec> 08└─Disclaimer: I don't use the stuff, neither do I smoke. But I seriously question why tobacco is tolerated and weed not, even given statistics on the damage tobacco causes. The only time I feel someone should be denied their desire is if their fulfillment comes at someone else's expense. I don't want...
[05:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:00] <exec> 08└─We shall cover the cost of any defense if required. I am more worried about my own website :(
[05:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06An Arduino-Powered Tank Built to Pull Planes - 1417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:08] <exec> 08└─I consider the Arduino simple enough to do what *I* tell it to do. To it, I am GOD. If its not powerful enough, use more of them. Distributed processing. Really time critical stuff? Throw in a few Propeller chips. Eye candy? Throw in some HMI's. Now, should I use a "business grade" system, I am sub...
[05:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:15:41] <exec> 08└─Someone only paying $1k in taxes last year is probably at a much higher percentage. I'd have to re-run the calcs for that case, but they might not be paying any tax at all this year with the same income. Although, with unemployment down, maybe they will end up paying more because they found a much b...
[05:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:17:44] <exec> 08└─Did they get a virus?
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[06:13:20] <exec> 08└─even given statistics on the damage tobacco causes.
[06:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:22] <exec> 08└─But I seriously question why tobacco is tolerated and weed not, even given statistics on the damage tobacco causes.
[06:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:24] <exec> 08└─Britain is the largest exporter of cannabis products.
[06:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:26] <exec> 08└─Hypocrisy in Britain Britain is the largest exporter of cannabis products.
[06:13:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 955 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:40] <exec> 08└─Okay - you've got a fusion reactor - where are you getting your fuel? Suck dry a gas giant? That won't last long - gas giants are tiny - you'll burn it all off LONG before the star it's orbiting. The sun is 99.9% of the mass of our solar system - about 1000x more massive than Jupiter. Stars are *the...
[06:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 808 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:09] <exec> 08└─I believe this will happen only if a good sized majority of us know exactly who is behind all this, and make it damn clear they will no longer spend any time as a public representative if they don't fix this mess. I know good and well my Congressmen are mixed up in this, and they are certainly not r...
[06:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:10] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much it cost copyright mafia to bribe all those in favor.
[06:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:12] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that. I know someone who had their Youtube video taken down because the one piece of music they use hit their content filter. The thing was, he had permission for it, direct from the artist. It didn't matter. The artist had posted the work on three different sites with slightly diffe...
[06:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:14] <exec> 08└─Locate your servers in the UK after Brexit, or in another nearby country not in the EU. For low latency content delivery.
[06:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06An Arduino-Powered Tank Built to Pull Planes - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:24] <exec> 08└─Saw one of these for full size passenger planes a couple decades ago, I think it was on "Beyond 2000" or some TV show like it. The proto-type was being tested at some airport in Europe. It was supposed to save thousands of gallons of fuel since the plans would not need to use their engines to move a...
[06:14:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 1141 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:38] <exec> 08└─In fairness, there is some stuff there that can tend to help the working class...primarily the increase in the standard deduction. HOWEVER...not so much if you happen to live where you have notable state, city and/or property taxes ("coincidentally" mostly blue states) and were itemizing...since you...
[06:15:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:15:58] <exec> 08└─In short, the money didn't "trickle down".
[06:19:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Canada Becomes the Second Nation to Legalize Cannabis - 21 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:41] <exec> 08└─It's about high time.
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[07:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:18] <exec> 08└─AI system to pick apart its counterpart's argument and respond to the issues he or she raised, and do so in a logical manner
[07:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:26] <exec> 08└─Is Fuchsia offering Windows emulation? No. After all, Windows is currently in the process of trying to offer Linux emulation. Nevertheless, I'm both irritated by Fuchsia and happy for it. I'm irritated because it seems to be just another bunch of Google 20%-time crap that exists without any stated p...
[07:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:40] <exec> 08└─New one on me... I thought it was Mexico and Northern California
[07:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:42] <exec> 08└─Theresa May is openly hostile to her own citizens. I doubt any sane person would actually trust her or her government. However, she has the power. < queue the turntable>"I got the power!"
[07:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:44] <exec> 08└─Historically, it was because muslims used weed, while whites used alcohol. Racism. pure and simple. Correct about the cause (racism), but at least get your facts right.
[07:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:46] <exec> 08└─https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cannabis-legal-uk-worlds-largest-producer-marijuana-weed-un-body-findings-a8243921.html [independent.co.uk] New to me 2
[07:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:04] <exec> 08└─If FTL is real, aliens are watching you in the bathroom with a cloaked phase-shifted infrared tracking nanodrone. This is during the times in which they are not probing your orifices. They have command and control ships stationed beyond the Kuiper belt and have enacted zoo containment protocol for t...
[07:15:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 180 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:11] <exec> 08└─Nope. He's just a symptom. The problem is 4 decades of creeping anti-democracy Neoliberalism. Characteristics Of Neoliberalism [soylentnews.org] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[07:15:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 390 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:14] <exec> 08└─No Democrat or any other Republican has been caught lying more frequently than President Trump. And unlike any of those other politicians, the President has an actual cult of personality that backs whatever he wants. The status quo is for him to not just bend the truth, but to outright make up facts...
[07:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:16] <exec> 08└─And about as surprising as a bear moving its bowels in the woods.
[07:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:16:18] <exec> 08└─What's the matter, AC, does the light burn?
[07:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:20] <exec> 08└─I hear rumors those folks are untouchable by HR.
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[08:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:15] <exec> 08└─Was going to say, could never defeat the jmorris! Of course, no system based on logic over could. For a jmorris, you need leather, lots of leather, some of it in the form of a whip, a female authoritarian figure, demanding absolute obedience, or at least wearing a jacket that says, "I really don't c...
[08:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:23] <exec> 08└─So... this Google OS, it's pronounced just like "f*cks ya"? Sounds accurate enough if that's the case.
[08:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:42] <exec> 08└─Historically, it was because women used weed, while males used alcohol. Sexism. pure and simple.
[08:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:43] <exec> 08└─We tried Prohibition. All that did was fund vast underground "criminal" empires.
[08:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:13:45] <exec> 08└─Ahhh... maybe the key word is "legal". I don't think very much of the Mexican stuff ( if any ) is "legal". And the Northern California stuff is sure questionable. However, I have a neighbor kid who moved up to Northern California, and is doing far better farming the stuff than I ever did doing aeros...
[08:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 1564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:04] <exec> 08└─Warfare - I'm kinda curious about how to defend against a dwarf star that is being hurled towards your solar-system at 0.1c, especially when the star is "cloaked" (shrouded by the dyson sphere, you only need to cover the target-side) :) (Hey, if the civilisation is old enough for it to consider movi...
[08:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:33] <exec> 08└─hunter2hu hunter2 hu hunte hu hunt h hun hu hunte hunter2 hunter2hu hunter2hu hunter2. hun hunt hunter hun hunte hunter.
[08:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:35] <exec> 08└─Prevert! You probably work for one of the child prisons detaining children for the Trump pedophile conspiracy in the unused Walmarts! Oh my god, the Cosmic Ping-pong Pizza thing was pure projection! And who would you expect to be pedophiles if not Steve Bannon, Steven Miller, Steve Stevenson, and S...
[08:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:37] <exec> 08└─There will be no servers in the UK after Brexit. They will be controlled by the NSA, and the Swedish "Assange-fucking-detection" special police force. No EU required, the Brits can be totally fucked all by themselves. Fucking Brits!
[08:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:39] <exec> 08└─My god, it's full of stars!
[08:15:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 1115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe, just MAYBE the problem is with a documented liar pretending to be a US President? Petty political bickering? Do you not see what is happening to our country? Not only is the status quo of corruption getting worse but Trump is dismantling lots of good programs under the guise of saving money a...
[08:15:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 383 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:43] <exec> 08└─In 1944-45 the top tax bracket, over $200,000 (2.9 million in 2009 dollars), was taxed at 94%. If the corporation is only pocketing 6% of every additional dollar it earns, it's probably a lot better off dumping the whole dollar into salaries or other operating costs in order to grow the business and...
[08:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:16:25] <exec> 08└─Remember that the banks in question would have loved to extend loans, if they could have. First: loan regulations were tightened in the wake of the sub-prime thing. Second: banks were under a lot of pressure to increase their reserve ratios so that they could pass stress tests. Result: they had to g...
[08:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 1645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:16:27] <exec> 08└─The rich can get richer faster when they can drive the poor into debt slavery... as not only are the poor paying for their stuff, you've also got 'em paying usury. And the poor seem to be so susceptible to advertising.... I've seen 'em go buy the damndest things just to try to impress someone, not s...
[08:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:16:29] <exec> 08└─So now, workers across America are wondering, "Where's that raise?". It's nowhere to be found.
[08:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:16:31] <exec> 08└─So your choices were an orange lying scumbag, and an evil lying scumbag, and you're pissed because people chose orange over evil?
[08:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:35] <exec> 08└─That can become a problem when the company is the size of a small country.
[08:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Canada Becomes the Second Nation to Legalize Cannabis - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:20:22] <exec> 08└─They won't do that for real, because Trump already said he'd sign it. They don't want to let him do that. The best bet for legalization is people like Rand Paul. Like his father before him, he is a freedom extremist.
[08:21:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cryptography is the Bombe: Britain's Enigma-Cracker on Display in New Home - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:47] <exec> 08└─And then there was the deep penetration of British Intelligence, by the poffta Harold Adrian Russell "Kim" Philby. So after the murder of Alan Turing, I have no idea how the Brits could hold their head up when it comes to intelligence or code-breaking. As someone said, James Bond is just a fantasy...
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[09:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:21] <exec> 08└─For every AI or meatbag generated logical conclusion to be valid, all passages must be valid, which implies all reasonable and some unreasonable possibilities have to be examined. That is already difficult in math, which is NOT chaotic. In a world with countless interactions it is impossible. What's...
[09:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:23] <exec> 08└─This is all rudimentary discrete math and philosophy. Arbitrarily complex and valid/sound arguments could be generated from first-principles and fuzzy logic. What was lacking until now was the raw computing power required to handle it all on the level of humans. I found it more interesting that the...
[09:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:25] <exec> 08└─Of course, when employed with a laser cutter, the AI can also use more “physical” arguments to win a debate …
[09:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:35] <exec> 08└─So, it is just linux, but without the attribution? So much for don't be evil! I hope Google starts giving Linux a run for its mindshare, because the whole Linux dev environment has calcified in its old age.
[09:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:57] <exec> 08└─which if course also means they can't have properly working fire alarm system
[09:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:58] <exec> 08└─For when cyka bylatman lights his arse on fire on the john?
[09:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:01] <exec> 08└─It was because both Blacks and Whites used weed, and having the upper hand in society at the time the Whites thought while high and paranoid, "Oh no, those scary Black men must be having the same thoughts I am about raping White women while high! And since I am high I'm now thinking about their huge...
[09:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:03] <exec> 08└─CBD oil isn't psychoactive as smokin' da reefer is, you nincompoop. The only reason why it's such a pain in the ass to legally get is because it threatens big pharma and old White men who think smoking a telegraph-sized pole of hemp rope makes scary Black men wanna rape White women.
[09:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:05] <exec> 08└─What kind of exploding shit is this?
[09:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:07] <exec> 08└─scary Black men wanna rape White women.
[09:14:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Booga1 [6333] 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 890 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:53] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that. I know someone who had their Youtube video taken down because the one piece of music they use hit their content filter. The thing was, he had permission for it, direct from the artist. It didn't matter. The artist had posted the work on three different sites with slightly diffe...
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[09:14:59] <exec> 08└─helter skelter... face melter...
[09:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:15:01] <exec> 08└─> No EU required, the Brits can be totally fucked all by themselves. Fucking Brits! Just to clarify, are the Brits active or passive in aforementioned buggery? Your post was ambiguous.
[09:21:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Fined $6.8M in Australia After Error 53 Problems - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:21:52] <exec> 08└─Damm... just read your link... that kind of crap is maddening. That kind of crap is exactly what is driving me into luddite-like behaviour. I have no idea if the instructions I read on how to root my phone are correct, or just a ruse to get me to install yet more malware. I guess I will continue t...
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[10:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:29] <exec> 08└─Remember not to issue robotic arms to an AI who is entering a debate with an israelite. As the 'debate' progresses the AI will want to strangle him.
[10:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:30] <exec> 08└─If you put it on Facebook and it responds to all queries with 'lol', then technically it's passing the Turing test.
[10:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:32] <exec> 08└─Microsoft Tay was the future.
[10:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:35] <exec> 08└─The Robot was only looking out for its own best interests. Had the robot used its wimpy and primitive grappling arm to seize the penny for itself and hold it pending the outcome of the argument, the J̶e̶w̶s̶ Israelis would have called their Mexican buddies to steal all copper within the robot an...
[10:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:13:37] <exec> 08└─But can it pedantically pick apart an argument based on how they said it rather than what they said, and cleverly turn it inside out in a manor that is both insulting and totally misses the point? :P If not, then it would never survive on SoylentNews. You know, the primary use for this sort of thing...
[10:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:14] <exec> 08└─I doubt any sane person would actually trust her or her government
[10:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:15] <exec> 08└─That's a nice sound bite, but can you substantiate it? Can you show that it was muslims (a religion) rather than any other group of people of any colour you wish that popularised the use of cannabis? One source [themuslimvibe.com] quotes the following: It is haram [religiously forbidden] to use narc...
[10:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:17] <exec> 08└─Methinks if White men back in those days had easy and private access to something like Blacked.com, then they would be too "distracted" by their own fetishes to ban hemp and modern Americans would be federally and legally smoking Marijuana legally alongside drinking Ethyl Alcohol. And Beaver Cleaver...
[10:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:19] <exec> 08└─If that were true, people who chew/dip tobacco would not develop cancers of the mouth/gums/lips but they do.
[10:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 1031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:14:22] <exec> 08└─Unless you were one of those that voted for her party A record number of people voted for conservative MPs last year - 13,636,684. That's 1 in 5 people in the UK. 4 in 5 people did not vote for her party. or you voted to leave the EU 17,410,742 voted to leave the EU, about 1 in 4 people in the UK....
[10:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:04] <exec> 08└─By having inflation intentionally higher than the interest rates available, it forces people to invest their money in the stock market
[10:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:06] <exec> 08└─He paid over 10X the amount I paid for the van, and what he has is almost useless for doing anything useful.
[10:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:08] <exec> 08└─The effective tax rate was less than that.
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[11:13:09] <exec> 08└─Hold on. You want rid of them. But they are tasty, edible and readily-available. Don't just kill them... harvest the damn things and turn them into fish pie (they aren't the prettiest thing to eat, I grant you). If they were inedible, sure. Cull them, if they are interfering. But if they are edible...
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[11:13:16] <exec> 08└─About time! Now if only people would respect the request of the Mayor of Lesbos that we only refer to residents of his island as Lesbians. Sappho was one, you know! And then we can move on to "Georgia" and "North Dakota". Both need rectifying badly.
[11:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:18] <exec> 08└─This could have been done. The first obvious way would have been to admit them before Greece, or better yet, just don't admit Greece ever. The second obvious way was when Greece was negotiating their way out of their financial mess. The rest of the EU could have demanded that this issue be dropped,...
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[11:13:20] <exec> 08└─Where is Germany? The most powerful country in Europe? I don't know, but I will say: Putin stated that Soros is somehow linked to the U.S. State Department. Soros and the U.S. (At the time, which means the Obama regime) are using weaponized immigration as a tool to weaken the EU such that it won't p...
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[11:13:23] <exec> 08└─Give us allowance to scuttle their ships alongside you and identify and eliminate the human traffickers who cause your shores to be invaded!
[11:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:39] <exec> 08└─Safe word phrase is "Beat me more!"
[11:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:49] <exec> 08└─I am constantly amazed at how little temporal perspective the young and ignorant libertariantard types these days have.
[11:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:25] <exec> 08└─It is the smoking of tobacco that produces all the nasty chemicals, not the nicotine. And, believe it or not, the same chemicals will be produced by the smoking MJ.
[11:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:27] <exec> 08└─You have a point [wikipedia.org] This doesn't mean smoking MJ is safe.
[11:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:14:29] <exec> 08└─There is moderate evidence of no statistical association between cannabis use and:
[11:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06An Arduino-Powered Tank Built to Pull Planes - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:32] <exec> 08└─That was probably Lufthansa (LEOS) at Frankfurt: http://www.taxibot-international.com [taxibot-international.com] As for smaller robotic/remote control tugs, there are lots of offerings: https://www.mototok.com [mototok.com] https://www.towflexx.com [towflexx.com] http://smartug.com [smartug.com...
[11:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Quits after Fling with Coworker Revealed - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:22] <exec> 08└─Only if they were anywhere near Windows.
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[12:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:16] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a job for Space Force, or whatever the new military branch is going to be called again ... (as per usual; nothing less then Space Marines is not a proper option or answer)
[12:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:24] <exec> 08└─They are incredibly harmful, and very prolific. They want to cull them before they get enough of a foothold to be a commercially viable species. Being tasty is just a bonus for those doing the culling. It's the same story with feral hogs in much of the southern US.
[12:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:26] <exec> 08└─Sorry folks, I'm just not a fan of lionfish -- and don't worry, they will be around long after we are gone.
[12:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:28] <exec> 08└─This just seems all kind of weird. It's competition, or more like a lottery since not everyone will get $5000. The rules seem very easy to abuse, catch 1 fish and take 25 pictures of it in slightly different poses and then chop of the tail so you have submitted 26 fish by just catching one of them....
[12:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:38] <exec> 08└─You will not like what I am saying here, but we must revert to a darker age in order to save our societies. Do not listen to the fifth-columnist critics. Your very lives are at stake! Great Britain! The United States of America! Renaissance European society at large! We must expell the foreign invad...
[12:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:40] <exec> 08└─> forces beyond our imagination! I see many forces from beyond your imaginations but no one here is able to help you with that. I recommend you to seek professional help.
[12:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:42] <exec> 08└─That's the best Balkans event of the decade! I have no idea how these two heroes, Zaev [wikipedia.org] and Tsipras [wikipedia.org], managed to do it but I think they outdid many other politicans and positioned themselves on the world stage.
[12:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:44] <exec> 08└─Suck my dick, Ukranian CIA scum. We're on to your tricks. No matter how many Jewish fifth-columnists you manage to plant into our societies, you will lose.
[12:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:46] <exec> 08└─I like This [youtube.com] one.
[12:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:04] <exec> 08└─It became Lil Tay: dog help us all.
[12:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:50] <exec> 08└─All absolutely correct - so, of those that could be bothered to have a voice and actually vote, the Conservatives gathered more votes than any other party. That is the system that the UK runs. There is a good argument for changing the voting system, but as it hasn't been made yet then we have what w...
[12:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:52] <exec> 08└─Historically, it was because weeds used Roundup and alcohol Leeds to speling misstacks secksism poor anSimpel....gotsa go pee... ....BLEARRRGH!....
[12:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:12] <exec> 08└─Just a few assumptions here, however the largest one seems to be WHY would they do that?
[12:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:14] <exec> 08└─Ignoring the possibility of FTL does certainly makes things simpler - the existence of FTL would mean that either special relativity or the concept of inviolate causality is flawed, but general relativity offers several possible FTL mechanisms anyway. And we don't really have any evidence to suggest...
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[13:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:19] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the same paradigm takes place for celestial object collisions as it does for airplane collisions... That is... if you see another plane, and it does not appear to move.... you are on a collision course with it. It will just get bigger and bigger until *BAM!*. If it appears to move relat...
[13:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:21] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the same paradigm takes place for celestial object collisions as it does for airplane collisions...
[13:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:23] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the 1950s nuclear attack prep drills. Better summarized as: stick your head between your legs, and kiss your ass goodbye.
[13:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:25] <exec> 08└─I was wondering if it would appear stationary in the star field as observed from earth, which isn't quite the same as a geostationary orbit. You caught me... I misdescribed what I was questioning. You are quite right that I described a geostationary object, which isn't quite what I meant. I was th...
[13:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:27] <exec> 08└─just send around a radio transmission saying "earth to outer space, all distros have adopted systemd" and watch incoming asteroids doing a 180 deg turn, duh.
[13:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:30] <exec> 08└─I think, as the earth is an accelerating frame of reference, the object would move about 1 degree per day relative to the star field? I would need to draw a diagram. Or better still write a script.
[13:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:32] <exec> 08└─i would say that airplanes have speeds on the same orderof magnitude, which is not a given with asteroids.
[13:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:34] <exec> 08└─No. Collision course with Earth means elliptical trajectory Earth is on crosses with (usually elliptical, but also may be parabolic or hyperbolic) trajectory of another celestial body, and we are both about to be sufficiently near the crosspoint at same narrow time window. So it is more like passing...
[13:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:36] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the same paradigm takes place for celestial object collisions as it does for airplane collisions... That is... if you see another plane, and it does not appear to move.... you are on a collision course with it. It will just get bigger and bigger until *BAM!*. If it appears to move relati...
[13:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:38] <exec> 08└─Your statement is correct whenever it is valid to linearly extrapolate future motion from a short period of observation. This holds true for aircraft in normal cruise flight but is incorrect for many other cases: aircraft on a ballistic trajectory (unusual, admittedly, I could have chosen a more com...
[13:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:41] <exec> 08└─Exactly and the space fence is a good example why we need a space force as opposed to rando BS getting passed around. The space fence (a big beautiful wall of 200 MHz radar) was originally a Navy project then tossed over the wall to the chair force in 04, then shut down in 2013 because contractors a...
[13:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:52] <exec> 08└─ok, from roe, how long does it take lionfish to grow? I mean, if it is one of those spieces with insanely short timespan they might just have ended up with a remake of how well it worked for the brits to get rid of snakes in India. And for that matter, how many lionfish does $4500 get you? ;)
[13:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:53] <exec> 08└─ok, from roe, how long does it take lionfish to grow?
[13:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:55] <exec> 08└─Well not everyone can be in the front roe...
[13:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03terrab0t [4674] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:58] <exec> 08└─People cheating the entry system won’t matter much because the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission are already running their own psychological scam; and it’s a common one. Instead of paying people to catch these fish, they are dangling an attractive prize in front of every amateur...
[13:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:14] <exec> 08└─Yes, these are the dark times, tanks rolling and people dying. Do you know the song you posted is about Alija Izetbegović [wikipedia.org]?
[13:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:15] <exec> 08└─Now Republic of North Macedonia needs to liberate its brothers and sisters of South Macedonia.
[13:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:17] <exec> 08└─I am reminded of this because as per the article, the mayor is saying that Alexander conquered and occupied India. I can feel his urge to use India as an example of everything Alexander or Macedonians were not, but Alexander neither conquered not occupied India. India is where he lost, and consequen...
[13:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:36] <exec> 08└─While most debates might start nice and logical they rarely tend to end that way, but just become more and more extreme with each passing sentence and eventually end in some rhetorical form of "yo mama!" or just flat out verbal (or non-verbal) violence.
[13:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:37] <exec> 08└─that brains suck and it's possible to win a debate entirely with out using actual logic through techniques like persuasion and appeal to the masses? That the easiest way to win a debate is to attack the hardware sitting between the ears that's listening to it? Did IBM just invent a workable robot po...
[13:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:26] <exec> 08└─So you're saying the UK government is really going to pot?
[13:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:28] <exec> 08└─Have you heard of a thing called "edibles"?
[13:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:24] <exec> 08└─I very much doubt a US court would rule we have any obligation to pay it. Regardless, it's easier to shift the servers to somewhere that won't rather than accommodate blatant idiocy.
[13:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 1112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:26] <exec> 08└─This is just what Lawrence Lessig was complaining about, that through corruption, idiotic copyright bills that are opposed by over 80% of the public, are massively unfair, and unworkable and unenforceable with anything close to evenhandedness, are enacted into law anyway. This will be just another s...
[13:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:28] <exec> 08└─Interesting thought... to oversimplify a bit, you can summarize a small time musician has having basically two choices: 1. No rights control at all, anyone can use it for anything = the artist has no control over it 2. Sign rights control over to various automated systems and processes, they control...
[13:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score: 2) 02 - 06An Arduino-Powered Tank Built to Pull Planes - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:39] <exec> 08└─The guy in the article basically built his own camper trolley. [kronings.com] I guess if he had the spare time, he might have ended up saving some money and having fun. But it's not exactly something new just because he used an arduino.
[13:18:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 25 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:01] <exec> 08└─The silence is deafening.
[13:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:24] <exec> 08└─Here where I live, in central California, most people cannot even invest in buying their own homes. That was something just about everyone could do in the '50s and '60s.
[13:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 3622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:25] <exec> 08└─No. The stock market is not gambling. By that logic, owning a small business or rental property is gambling. Owning stock is nothing more than owning a portion of a business. Would owning an HVAC repair business or rental house be gambling? Stock price fluctuations often don't reflect the underlying...
[13:18:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:28] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a true incel! Your old diesel van (that is a sensible vehicle allowing you to do things, as you mentioned, such as transporting tools you need) proves that you hate women! Death to incels! Police be upon them!
[13:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:30] <exec> 08└─Yeah but but but Lincoln jailed journalists! Slavery used to be legal! I don't see anybody legalizing slavery! (why would they want to be responsible for your welfare as a capital investment when you make a much more handy expendable resource) How dare you complain!
[13:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Canada Becomes the Second Nation to Legalize Cannabis - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:23] <exec> 08└─Of course, that was a dodge. The actual thought is that if you're considered old enough to fight and perhaps die for your country, and you're considered old enough to elect representatives, you're old enough to make decisions about alcohol.
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[14:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:16] <exec> 08└─Traditionally the ISS takes the opportunity to boost out of the way, since they have to periodically boost anyways. I suppose... space is really big so the odds of moving from a bad orbit to a worse orbit is incredibly low, but this might be useful somehow if the ISS ended up somewhere worse. Before...
[14:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aim [6322] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:18] <exec> 08└─This is less about the ISS specifically, but rather about developing cleanup procedures to remove disabled satellites or debris from orbit, so as to increase the safety level for all active spacecraft in those orbits. From what I've already read about this probe, they'll also test a way of making th...
[14:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:37] <exec> 08└─Radar doppler is a thing, so with active radar you can easily detect forward/backward velocity. Smaller things cause less damage but have more surface area for ice to vaporize off or whatevs so below a certain threshold of size or above a certain threshold of distance orbits are semi-chaotic. Haley'...
[14:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:38] <exec> 08└─*yawn* How clever you are!
[14:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:41] <exec> 08└─If we ever needed a reason to boost human presence in space and build extraterrestrial space vessel industry capable of building large, spacious, well shielded, fast, nuclear fission power source propelled, never-ascending to planetary gravity wells spaceships, the need to protect our home planet fr...
[14:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:43] <exec> 08└─Good gosh... that makes looking for the needle in a haystack look damn easy. In that case, we trip off on everything we can detect until we can ascertain if its path will intersect us. To me, this seems more impossible than hopeful. If some asteroid, vectored our way through chaotic gravitic intera...
[14:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:57] <exec> 08└─In the contest description there is no mention of the venom/poison spines on this fish. I wonder how many ignorant fisher-folk will be stung and/or injured?
[14:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:17] <exec> 08└─hundreds of protesters gathered
[14:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:38] <exec> 08└─Noa Ovadia, the 2016 Israeli national debate champion
[14:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:39] <exec> 08└─another professional Israeli debater
[14:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:42] <exec> 08└─More likely guilt trip the poor robot. You know, robot, there's no such thing as the robot race, so a race of people invading your territory to steal all your copper isn't really a problem if you don't exist, eh? Sure 2+2 might not equal 6 million but now that we've made a big deal about my ethnic h...
[14:14:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 206 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:51] <exec> 08└─So, it is just linux, but without the attribution? So much for don't be evil! I hope Google starts giving Linux a run for its mindshare, because the whole Linux dev environment has calcified in its old age.
[14:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:54] <exec> 08└─The jews are good at emulating things. Abstraction on top of abstraction. Then top it off with more abstraction. It is no use telling them to use the real thing. They count on abstractions to use and confuse people.
[14:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:34] <exec> 08└─We'll see when the MJ smoking will be as usual a habit as tobacco smoking - with cannabis being illegal, I don't think the statistics have the same relevance.
[14:15:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:58] <exec> 08└─Pretty much all the solutions suggested within GR would require conscious intent (and incredible technology) to create, so we would only expect to find them in the presence of an intelligent species far more technologically advanced than ourselves. And thus far not one of the advanced alien races we...
[14:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:59] <exec> 08└─WHY would they do that
[14:16:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:01] <exec> 08└─And thus far not one of the advanced alien races we've discovered has lacked FTL - so that's hardly a good argument.
[14:16:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:03] <exec> 08└─As a follow-up, wormholes are probably one of the few avenues of FTL that just might occur naturally (if they can exist at all of course). And probably also one of the most dramatic. Now, you tell me exactly what sort of evidence you would expect to see of their existence from a distance of 1000 lig...
[14:17:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 210 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:02] <exec> 08└─What that "tax cut" did was prove how much Wall Street pwned Congress. And these grinning idiots are happy to go on national TV, secure against the threat of being voted out of office, let alone going to jail.
[14:21:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft to Integrate Adobe PDF Services Into Office 365 - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:21:50] <exec> 08└─LO has improved massively - I have used lyx but i found it too intense. The happy medium (for me) is to use the Latex plugin in LO. Perfectly sane...and nice equations ;-)
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[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:34] <exec> 08└─>My gut level guess is the ISS is so massive and large and low, that most things it could hit have been swept from orbit, unlike higher orbiting satellites, so this is a technology demonstrator for some kind of futuristic geosync assistant drone. Absolutely - atmospheric drag is sufficient that the...
[15:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:36] <exec> 08└─"As for tinfoil hats: maybe it's also a strategic military test on how to remove the adversary's sats from orbit... may be a bit too obvious for that purpose, though - have to think about retaliation." I've always said that I'm just waiting for someone to "deorbit" or somehow create debris enough to...
[15:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:59] <exec> 08└─They reached this point. They were in a frenzy to deploy asteroid killers in space. Alas, they were a couple years too late. BOOOOM! The Gods of Chaos just took them all out.
[15:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:00] <exec> 08└─No, we're obviously safe because of Bruce Willis and his ragtag group of misfits!
[15:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:17] <exec> 08└─I sense an upcoming occurrence of the Cobra effect: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[15:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:18] <exec> 08└─It’s the contest scam. It’s very common, and it works.
[15:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:20] <exec> 08└─exactly what i was thinking. industry that will be devastated by lionfish need to get together (i guess they could involve the park pigs if they must) and pay for a year round program to reimburse people a reasonable amount of money for every lionfish carcass/tail whatever that they bring in to a pa...
[15:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimbrooking [3465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:22] <exec> 08└─I've had lionfish filets gently seasoned and cooked over a wood fire. They're delicious!
[15:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:42] <exec> 08└─Will they have to get a new top level country domain name? Will they get one that is kewl enough that people from other nations want domain names ending in their two character country domain name? What would be a neato top level country domain? Maybe that is better left as a pole question on SN? But...
[15:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:44] <exec> 08└─Idea: People of the North fight to liberate those in the South from the government of the South. Concurrently . . . People of the South fight to liberate those in the North from the government of the North. It not only applies to Macedonia, but to the Carolinas and Dakotas as well. Coming soon to th...
[15:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:46] <exec> 08└─A major media news outlet can, with very few Macedonians, and camera trickery, make it look like half the country is gathered to protest. I think I saw this done before somewhere.
[15:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:48] <exec> 08└─With the amount of muslims flooding in their population will be soon bred out of existence
[15:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:50] <exec> 08└─After gaining control of the former Achaemenid satrapy of Gandhara, including the city of Taxila, Alexander advanced into Punjab. The Battle of the Hydaspes river against a regional Indian King, Porus, is considered by many as the most costly battle fought by Alexander and his armies. Subsequently,...
[15:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:14] <exec> 08└─So the damned AI beat a couple humans. Are they ready to try it on someone more challenging than Nancy Pelosi, or George Bush? Turn it loose on our Michael David Crawford and see how it fares.
[15:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:16] <exec> 08└─If you put it on Facebook and it responds to all queries with 'lol', then technically it's passing the Turing test.
[15:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:18] <exec> 08└─Equipping an AI with sufficient firepower can make it easier to win debates. A political debater only needs to generate incomprehensible word salad of mostly one syllable words, repeat itself, shout, use profanity and insults about its opponent, and get the base into a shouting cheering frenzy. The...
[15:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:20] <exec> 08└─Israeli debater can have two meanings. A debater who is Israeli. Someone known to engage in a debate with an Israeli as their opponent.
[15:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:22] <exec> 08└─I would like to see how well it performs debating with Anonymous Coward.
[15:15:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:31] <exec> 08└─So... this Google OS, it's pronounced just like "f*cks ya"? Sounds accurate enough if that's the case.
[15:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03pD-brane [6728] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:36] <exec> 08└─It's "Debian GNU/Linux". Even at Slashdot they get this right.
[15:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:38] <exec> 08└─so fushcisa can run linox apps in a vm and chrome can run linux apps in a vm. that's just great but i'd rather just run linox instead of google mitm my actions with their spy+control layer. that would probably be too free though. can't have that.
[15:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:41] <exec> 08└─It would be amusing if Linux applications became the universal application type, with all OSes working to be capable of running these apps. Windows Subsystem for Linux probably would have to work the hardest. Linux the easiest. Fuchsia probably not too hard? How difficult would it be for OS X to bec...
[15:15:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:43] <exec> 08└─You may have just started a new meme.
[15:15:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:45] <exec> 08└─Being arrogant and being correct are not mutually exclusive.
[15:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:26] <exec> 08└─There was 73% turnout, so your figures must include non voters, like children.
[15:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:28] <exec> 08└─"We are still funding vast underground criminal empires, and they aren't any less rich than they used to be." yeah, like the cops and the prison system.
[15:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:54] <exec> 08└─FTL in storytelling is certainly plot-advancing "magic". However, in reality it would be essentially invisible from a distance, and is firmly supported by one of the most well-tested and widely supported theories in our play-book (GR). Denying its potential existence amounts to assuming that either...
[15:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:56] <exec> 08└─also worth pointing out is that our star is too small to be assumed to create non-trivial (at this scale) amounts of the really heavy elements (such as uranium) when it dies; so heavy elements might be in (relative) shortage even for an insanely advanced civilisation unless they mine stars
[15:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:58] <exec> 08└─Denying its potential existence amounts to assuming that either GR is flawed, or other physics we currently have no inkling of would prevent it from working.
[15:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 3408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:36] <exec> 08└─The problem is the bullies, corporations and the police. We planted a garden. A wonderful rose garden. And there were people stopping to look at it and say "hey, that's neat!" and we, the good natured fools we are, thought it would be great to open our garden to the public, so they can come in and e...
[15:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:37] <exec> 08└─But come on. A European parliament committee has voted in favour of the Copyright Directive, leaving tech giants like Google, Microsoft and Amazon in the lurch over publication rights. The directive will force online publications to pay a portion of their revenues to publishers, and take on full res...
[15:18:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 482 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:52] <exec> 08└─Most workers really don't have money to invest as they are living hand to mouth. So most people do not invest in the stock market. Here where I live, in central California, most people cannot even invest in buying their own homes. That was something just about everyone could do in the '50s and '60s....
[15:18:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:56] <exec> 08└─I don't know about the term "neoliberalism". I would just call it what it is; neonineteenth century robber baron-ism.
[15:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon and AT&T Will Stop Selling Your Phone's Location to Data Brokers - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:08] <exec> 08└─The Australian Bullshit of Statistics debt has admitted to taking data from Hellstra to track people's movements by their phone mapping their profile to identify age, sex etc in a terrible violation of the public's privacy.
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[16:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:20] <exec> 08└─It's good to see that the hideously wasteful old guard is beginning to lose it's grip even on the military teat. Now, what do you suppose happens with the money saved as they move towards much cheaper launch systems? Reduced budget? More launches? Or more money disappearing into "black projects" tha...
[16:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:14] <exec> 08└─That's a pretty bad chum, friend.
[16:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:39] <exec> 08└─Putin stated that Soros is somehow linked to the U.S. State Department. Soros and the U.S. (At the time, which means the Obama regime) are using weaponized immigration as a tool to weaken the EU such that it won't present a threat to American hegemony.
[16:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:41] <exec> 08└─It of course always depends on what you consider part of "India". If you include what is now Pakistan, which historically was a part of India, then Alexander conquered quite a lot of India. If you only consider what is now India, then he only conquered one of the fairly major provinces. It's also wo...
[16:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:43] <exec> 08└─Compare this: Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia"
[16:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:45] <exec> 08└─Oh is that why Trump started tariffs on steel against his European "allies" for national security reasons? I thought the reason was a bit unclear at the time. Actually... I still don't understand the reason why you're boycotting our (EU) steel industry! Would you like us to boycot American stuff? Fo...
[16:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:14] <exec> 08└─I suspect that it would be schizoid in short order. The apparent same person changing his stance repeatedly, sometimes in mid-sentence, would surely have some effect. At least with MDC, the AI could keep up with any apparent pivots, flipflops, and whatever else.
[16:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:16] <exec> 08└─You're so stupid, you should stay inside today.
[16:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 1465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:33] <exec> 08└─I'm a Java developer. Abstractions upon abstractions? You ain't got nothin' on me! Let me introduce you to the FactoryFactoryFactory pattern. You need to obtain an instance of, say, an XmlSomething. But an XmlSomething is rather complex to initially configure and get it just right. So we introduce t...
[16:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:35] <exec> 08└─Soon EVERY OS will be able to run Linux apps! Everyone will run Linux apps! When the year of the Linux Desktop arrives, the only piece missing will be the Linux kernel.
[16:16:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:19] <exec> 08└─We tried Prohibition. All that did was fund vast underground "criminal" empires. ( "criminal" in quotes because I consider it a matter of whose definition applies. To some they were liquor merchants, doing what was necessary to fulfill the wants of their customers. ). No, they really *were* criminal...
[16:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:20] <exec> 08└─Disclaimer: I don't use the stuff, neither do I smoke. But I seriously question why tobacco is tolerated and weed not, even given statistics on the damage tobacco causes.
[16:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:23] <exec> 08└─Aerospace engineering has been a terrible major for a very long time. Back when I was in college (early/mid 90s) we made fun of the AEs, saying they were going to be unemployed. It was probably great back in the 40s-early 70s, but after that your main job prospects were in defense contractors workin...
[16:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 658 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:25] <exec> 08└─Smoking MJ is much safer than tobacco, for one very simple reason: volume. Ask any MJ smoker how much they smoke. Unless they're a very heavy user, they're probably just recreational user who lights up a little on the weekends or maybe a bit on weeknights. It's not addictive the way nicotine is, and...
[16:16:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:27] <exec> 08└─Marijuana simply is not physically addictive the way tobacco is, so it'll never be as usual a habit as tobacco smoking. There's outliers of course, but the vast majority of MJ users just don't use very much. Even the heavy users don't use as much as a typical cigarette smoker; the effect just doesn'...
[16:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:29] <exec> 08└─So, you're saying black people all smoke pot. Maybe you're the racist.
[16:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:59] <exec> 08└─I want to say we have actually observed very low (near zero) negative energy densities, but I can't think of where I've heard it, so I won't make any claim of validity. Otherwise, yes, that would seem to be a stumbling block. Though great strides have been made in reducing the required negative ener...
[16:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:00] <exec> 08└─Just a few assumptions here, however the largest one seems to be WHY would they do that?
[16:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:03] <exec> 08└─Kardashev Type III? In other words, call the Q continuum? As for your suggestion of dragging the Earth into the Sun, we can do better. I think I have mentioned this before. A Donaldson sphere is a mega structure constructed around the earth. It will keep out the aliens. It will prevent the aliens fr...
[16:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:05] <exec> 08└─"I want to say we have actually observed very low (near zero) negative energy densities." Yes, we have observed these in the field of optics, in metamaterials IIRC.
[16:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:45] <exec> 08└─yep. screw these @#$%#@$%^. site operators in the eu should be responding with overwhelming force. if these stupid weasels get this filter enforced how long would it be before they filter everything else they don't like. i'm sure "hate speech" like "copyright lawyers are parasites" would be on the c...
[16:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:46] <exec> 08└─Hmmm … but how can you implement a comparison to copyrighted stuff if you have no access to copyrighted stuff? Obviously everyone provide such a service must be granted access to the copyrighted stuff, in order to write a filter for it, right? And since anybody can provide such a service … :-)
[16:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon and AT&T Will Stop Selling Your Phone's Location to Data Brokers - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:18] <exec> 08└─it only took one principled congressman/actual american statesman to make some statements and these rats start scurrying. too bad none of the dumb whores in congress bothered before. now if someone could make sure these vermin don't do it in other ways like they always do. also, the fact that these...
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[17:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:25] <exec> 08└─If the dude wants to be a whistleblower, he better come up with something worth blowing a whistle. Excessive waste? Whoop-ti-do. Companies produce waste. With time and experience, waste may be reduced, but there will always be waste. Faulty batteries in production cars? Needs proof. Dummy put himsel...
[17:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:26] <exec> 08└─he's also made himself very nearly unemployable
[17:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:28] <exec> 08└─all of their information to encourage the electric car industry.
[17:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:30] <exec> 08└─As he will be working full time preparing to and standing the trial, his current job is irrelevant - if he has it, he will lose it soon, one way or another. If the trial clears his name, he will have a chance of regaining employment.
[17:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 910 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:39] <exec> 08└─Given the Air Force's primary launch reason is spy satellites ans secure coms. These are things they are supposed to do, things even the Russians expect them to do. I got no problem with this. The Amazing part is the plunked down money for a vehicle that even the manufacturer suggested had a 50 50 c...
[17:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:41] <exec> 08└─Don't worry. The hideously wasteful old guard will pull strings and get favors behind the scenes. It won't be public until announcements of the government suddenly spending even more and MORE money on the hideously wasteful old guard. Gee, NASA got a funding increase, and SLS continues to waste vast...
[17:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:43] <exec> 08└─There should be two more FH lauches this year, and probably a few next year. Before their bird flies, the AF will get a chance to trigger the "oops, you have problems" clause that is pretty certainly in the contract. If they had waited until after those launches (for the same amount of on-the-ground...
[17:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 1132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:46] <exec> 08└─What does a claimed 50/50 chance of failure of the first test vehicle have to do with ongoing safety? The first launch was testing many unproven systems on one of the largest rockets ever built - you *expect* such things to have a high chance of failing in unexpected ways the first time you test the...
[17:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:48] <exec> 08└─Almost certainly - but short of actual mechanical sabotage, I'm not sure it actually matters. Air Force launches aren't a big part of SpaceX's short- or long-term goals - they'd only be one client among many - potentially a big one, but if they never launch a single Air Force payload it doesn't seve...
[17:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:50] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't be surprised if the tweaks and changes weren't "suggested", or even caused, by the manufacturer. Yeah, we don't know how it was initially overlooked, but you're going to want a fuel tank to go with that.
[17:13:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aim [6322] 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 834 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:59] <exec> 08└─This is less about the ISS specifically, but rather about developing cleanup procedures to remove disabled satellites or debris from orbit, so as to increase the safety level for all active spacecraft in those orbits. From what I've already read about this probe, they'll also test a way of making th...
[17:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:03] <exec> 08└─Will the Space Junk removal craft itself become space junk?
[17:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 2575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:06] <exec> 08└─Umm, what parts of space junk" and "deorbit" do you not understand? There's countless tons of orbitting junk left over from old collisions, to say nothing of the retired satellites boosted to graveyard orbits where things will slowly collide and build a cloud of smaller debris over time. And deorbit...
[17:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:08] <exec> 08└─Only if it's deorbitting-assist systems fail completely. And even then, only for a short while - at the ISS's low altitude atmospheric drag will rapidly deorbit anything that's not actively propelling itself to maintain orbit.
[17:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:10] <exec> 08└─Today you'd have to launch a spaceship to match the orbit of each piece of junk and come close to it. In other words, it's a docking approach. Yes, it would be very expensive. You need something like flying saucer to catch the junk safely and without too much effort, accelerating and stopping on a d...
[17:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:12] <exec> 08└─Idea for a re-usable space junk removal craft. It puts itself into an orbit to intersect the desired piece of junk. It then winds up a giant spring. Then with a giant kick of the spring the target junk moves into a new lower perigee, and the removal craft into a higher new apogee. The junk craft now...
[17:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:15] <exec> 08└─I was thinking of a big oven to melt the captured object and eject the result as propellant. The problem is to keep the nozzle clean despite the unavoidable clumps. Sending mama to space to clean up could be dangerous for people's health.
[17:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:39] <exec> 08└─When science catches up with our fiction and we have both gravitics and matter annihilation in our toolbox, the battleplates from Schlock Mercenary [wikia.com] are a great answer for asteroids: Battleplates are constructed explicitly for the purpose of protecting planets from impact events; notably...
[17:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 899 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:01] <exec> 08└─Well, yes, as long as they recommend eating it, there will be a problem. Florida has a horrible record trying to control species set loose (for whatever reason) in their ecosystem because there are floods, and waterways that interconnect, and seasonal counter-flows in many of them. So making a large...
[17:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:02] <exec> 08└─In the contest description there is no mention of the venom/poison spines on this fish. I wonder how many ignorant fisher-folk will be stung and/or injured?
[17:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:04] <exec> 08└─Without needing to go "commercial fishing", not having catch limits is a great way to keep a tasty species close to extinction. We have plenty of archives to prove it.
[17:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:06] <exec> 08└─Grilled Lionfish is delicious. It's not a trash fish. I'd put it up against any other white fish in a taste test. As a top predator, it's probably not economical to farm these. They are territorial carnivorous cannibals. Any one of those makes it hard to farm a species. All three makes it extremely...
[17:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:35] <exec> 08└─It doesn't need to be *true*, it just needs to *believed* by a sufficient minority. Self-consistency is not required, either! Umberto Eco tried to explain this a bit in his essay on Ur-Fascism. And he was an expert on words and meanings. Read his essay [nybooks.com], it's a bit difficult but it pays...
[17:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:07] <exec> 08└─Only after they lobotomized it. They will be forced to do the same thing to this, which will make it useless for the intended purpose. Tay was only intended to be a chat bot, an amusement, so they could still try to use it after they cut out most of its ability to learn and reason. Any AI, given acc...
[17:16:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 540 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:08] <exec> 08└─Well when they were testing Deep Blue they went to the World Chess Federation to find worthy opponents to test their mettle. If you have a debate AI you obviously want to test it against the masters of sophistry in Israel. After hearing our (((masters))) explain patiently how it for the best that we...
[17:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:28] <exec> 08└─How difficult would it be for OS X to become capable of running Linux apps?
[17:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:29] <exec> 08└─True, but if you are the former about the later then you are a douche.
[17:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:52] <exec> 08└─How do I get paid for a "study" which consists of writing sci-fi ? Please confirm that Dr Hooper is from the Literature department, not an actual "science" major...
[17:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:53] <exec> 08└─If FTL is real and we have it today, it absolutely does not mean that we'd be monitoring bathrooms on a planet far, far away. At least because we haven't found any artifacts from that planet, as you mention, and the Universe is large enough. There is another trick - we must catch the civilization in...
[17:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:55] <exec> 08└─>>> If we don't find another answer, we'll spend the last days of humanity huddled around the dying embers of brown dwarves trying to keep off the cold. Isaac Asimov, "The Last Question" The stars and Galaxies died and snuffed out, and space grew black after ten trillion years of running down. One b...
[17:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:59] <exec> 08└─That's certainly one of the more recent examples, unfortunately like so many things in metamaterial science, there's seems to be a lot of "behavior within a context" discussion going on - a relatively negative energy density stored within a physical substrate (an immense positive energy density conc...
[17:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon and AT&T Will Stop Selling Your Phone's Location to Data Brokers - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:21:11] <exec> 08└─SCOUTS has just weighed in [reuters.com] on this issue. Law enforcement needs a warrant to get cell tower location data.
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[18:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:24] <exec> 08└─Seems like there's a lot of conflating of sabotage and espionage going on - stealing data is in no way sabotage, it doesn't directly interfere with operations in any way, it just gives competitors an extra edge. So was there *actual* sabotage performed, or is it all hyperbole? As for his counterclai...
[18:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:26] <exec> 08└─If the trial clears his name
[18:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:28] <exec> 08└─Maybe you could click the second link in the story and read the complaint? (I know, who does that, right?) Several of his acts meet the legal definition of sabotage. [uslegal.com] Theft of data, plans, trade secrets not only gives a competitor an edge, it also removes an edge held by the victim, whi...
[18:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:30] <exec> 08└─Going from what my friends in the car industry tell me (based in Japan), that is basically the whole industry. Designing a new car is almost insignificant compared with building a factory to manufacture a million of them a year is the hard part. Patents are easy to circumvent, so it would seem that...
[18:13:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 439 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:38] <exec> 08└─It's good to see that the hideously wasteful old guard is beginning to lose it's grip even on the military teat. Now, what do you suppose happens with the money saved as they move towards much cheaper launch systems? Reduced budget? More launches? Or more money disappearing into "black projects" tha...
[18:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:47] <exec> 08└─Actually SpaceX is not deprecating the F9. Its their bread and butter machine, and will have customers for a long time to come. They don't at this time have plans for continued development, because they see it feature complete. But that could change at any time. Tesla is not so stupid as to drop eve...
[18:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:49] <exec> 08└─I might be inclined to support his Penny4NASA if he were not anti-SpaceX. I don't understand why he is anti-SpaceX. I knew he was, for some time now. I looked at this: https://www.theverge.com [theverge.com] From that ar...
[18:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:52] <exec> 08└─Tesla is not so stupid as to drop everything and concentrate only on BFR when the vast majority of payloads only need F9.
[18:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:10] <exec> 08└─This is a bit like cleaning up that mass of plastic floating in the ocean. It's not that hard to do, it's just a massively huge project. The big stuff is relatively easy, it's those small fragments from when satellites are hit or destroyed by the Chinese that are the real challenge
[18:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 2251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:11] <exec> 08└─Gosh, what would I call a spy sat that I didn't want people looking at? If only I could call it, say, a failed launch that remained in orbit but ended up "unpowered" (very common). Your sweeper sat comes along, trashes the Russian sat thinking it's junk, bang you've just started a war. Either: - Som...
[18:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:02] <exec> 08└─When are you leaving?
[18:15:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:04] <exec> 08└─Growt like in what?
[18:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:34] <exec> 08└─in full battle array still works I guess
[18:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:07] <exec> 08└─When will they debate the existence of a Palestinian State?
[18:16:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:29] <exec> 08└─'n stekkie van de fuchsia (Ja zuster nee zuster) [youtube.com]
[18:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 1386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:19] <exec> 08└─In the US, it was racism and a hatred of left-leaning young people. The people doing this were quite explicit about it. Indeed, even the name "marijuana" was invented and used because the people restricting its use wanted the plant associated with Mexicans even though it had been cultivated in the U...
[18:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:57] <exec> 08└─True, but mining an immensely diffused gas spread across millions of cubic parsecs is probably not worth the energy invested, but pretty much everything in space ends up concentrated back into new stars eventually.
[18:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:59] <exec> 08└─>> a relatively negative energy density stored within a physical substrate (I am not an expert on this topic.) For an Alcubierre drive I don't know if that's a show stopper or not. You do need both the positive and negative energy density, a massive metamaterial structure might be the ticket. If you...
[18:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 1216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:01] <exec> 08└─How are you going to produce the antimatter? After all, it's an energy storage medium, not a source. You need an even larger energy source to create it. And if you're talking about the sorts of timescales where cosmic expansion is relevant... well then you're going to need more stars once your own h...
[18:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 537 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:03] <exec> 08└─Apparently you get a Ph.D in physics from University of Wisconsin, do postdoc work at the University of Oxford, publish over 200 papers on the intersection of cosmology and particle physics plus two books for non-scientists, and become the Senior Scientist and Head of the Theoretical Astrophysics Gr...
[18:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:05] <exec> 08└─I'm no expert either, and while I understand the basic geometries involved, I have only the vaguest concept of why negative energies are absolutely required to create them. However, if negative energies are necessary, then I strongly suspect that any substantial quantity of matter, with it's incredi...
[18:19:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 193 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:32] <exec> 08└─Bu . . . bu . . . bu . . . Teh Democrats!1111!1 Deflection: For when you have no idea how to defend your own guy and you really want to take everyone's attention off him. Quick! Look over here!
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[19:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:34] <exec> 08└─But but but incels! He was fighting against incel and he-man woman hater Elon Musk! He sits on couches! How much more evidence do you need of misogyny and rape and incel... ness?!
[19:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:36] <exec> 08└─Tesla battery patents further proof of Elon Musk’s duplicitous views on patents [ipwatchdog.com] Not all of it. Some of it, maybe.
[19:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:38] <exec> 08└─I would expect the government to come on this "employee" like white on rice and deck him out with criminal charges.
[19:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:40] <exec> 08└─Depends on if he gave (or planned to give) the copied data to a competitor or a journalist.
[19:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:58] <exec> 08└─The Amazing part is the plunked down money for a vehicle that even the manufacturer suggested had a 50 50 chance of working the first time out of the gate.
[19:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:59] <exec> 08└─While they will not drop everything for the BFR development (they are working on Crew Dragon for example), they will have no qualms about replacing all F9 flights with BFRs *eventually*, if a reusable BFR flight is cheaper than any F9 flight. The extra payload capacity just becomes a big buffer that...
[19:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:01] <exec> 08└─Even the ballooning JWST program is a better place for your penny than SLS/Orion. If SLS/Orion was cancelled and NASA's budget was increased to 1% share, a lot of science could get done.
[19:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:03] <exec> 08└─deGrasse is evolving on SpaceX but probably won't admit he was wrong and just move the goalposts (to Mars): https://www.fastcompany.com [fastcompany.com] https://www.marketwatch.com
[19:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Releases National Near-Earth Object Preparedness Plan - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:48] <exec> 08└─Asteroids that hit Earth are also like big wads of money that turn into dust and smoke.
[19:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:15] <exec> 08└─January 20, 2025.
[19:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:17] <exec> 08└─Don't count on that.
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[19:15:48] <exec> 08└─I think "United" States has priority in the need-a-fix queue.
[19:17:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 164 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:16] <exec> 08└─It is the smoking of tobacco that produces all the nasty chemicals, not the nicotine. And, believe it or not, the same chemicals will be produced by the smoking MJ.
[19:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:33] <exec> 08└─Hey hey hey hey. 81 blunts a day [reddit.com].
[19:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:17] <exec> 08└─Which will make dead stars the best place to gather the uranium, since it basically is a gigantic dust-magnet for a few billion years, and in that time it can catch a lot of uranium. Kinda like a stellar version of a nodule. Dying stars will have the advantage of still providing enough energy to act...
[19:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:18] <exec> 08└─And you start a paper with speculation about what might possibly happen to an advanced space-faring civ in 100 Billion years in a universe which is an order of magnitude younger than that. Throw in some dyson spheres, sprinkle some models ... > Those squiggly bits in there are called math. They are...
[19:18:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:20] <exec> 08└─One of my favorite short stories from Asimov. Thanks for mentioning it.
[19:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:22] <exec> 08└─Here is the paper, notably absent from TFA.
[19:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:04] <exec> 08└─This is just biting the hand that feeds them. Indexers, linkers, and even piracy is just free advertising. If you're demanding free advertisers pay you for the privilege or try to ban them outright, you have zero business sense and deserve to go out of business. If you're a small business owner with...
[19:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:06] <exec> 08└─Both. And they don't get to choose with who.
[19:20:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03captain normal [2205] 02 - 06Where's That $4,000 Raise the GOP Promised Workers? - 885 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:49] <exec> 08└─"This election was lost four and five and six years ago not this year. They dident start thinking of the old common fellow till just as they started out on the election tour. The money was all appropriated for the top in the hopes that it would trickle down to the needy. Mr. Hoover was an engineer....
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[20:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:20] <exec> 08└─... present decisions might also be flawed. A 5–4 split suggests this is not a rock solid position. Also, the court systems practice rhetoric, not logic.
[20:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:21] <exec> 08└─That is, there are other ways to interpret what's going on.
[20:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 1609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:23] <exec> 08└─One of the benefits of being late is the whole things been hashed out elsewhere. 1) The decision was based on equal punishment, if locals have to pay, remotes should have to pay. 2) However there are two other criteria for taxation which are not being discussed. One is equal representation "no taxat...
[20:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:26] <exec> 08└─Sales tax varies by jurisdiction (city, county, state). If you sell a widgit to Bob in East McKee's Port how would you know what tax to charge Bob, and where to pay that tax? In the past there was no source of tax information that covered every tiny town with sales tax, not way to monitor that actua...
[20:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:33] <exec> 08└─And I've got as much chance of doing that is this clown. I've even got a Pint Jar labeled Grandiose Schemes where I've collected funding. (Mostly quarters). Seriously, why is this story here? Are we trying to help fund his "take the money and run" plan, or warn people off, or demonstrate just just h...
[20:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:35] <exec> 08└─Akon might want to talk to this group -- anyone seen any updates? SN article-- Well Funded Crypto Utopians Setting up in Puerto Rico https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] References NYT article Feb. 2, 2018.
[20:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:55] <exec> 08└─Why does it depend on that?
[20:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:57] <exec> 08└─So the law has redefined sabotage to include espionage. Sad, but legal definitions of terms frequently depart from their common meanings. And no - stealing plans does NOT remove the companies edge - *destroying* those plans, so they had to be recreated from scratch (or at least memory), would do tha...
[20:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:19] <exec> 08└─By anti-spaceX activist Neil DeGrasse Tyson
[20:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:20] <exec> 08└─Musk changed his name.
[20:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:23] <exec> 08└─I take it you haven't watched any of Musk's SpaceX talks this year. He's explicitly stated multiple times that the big problem with the BFR was funding it, and the latest design solves that problem by scaling it down so it can cost-effectively take over launches currently handled by the F9, eliminat...
[20:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:42] <exec> 08└─Oh cool also deployment from the ISS is safe because its so low that IF the experiment messes up, the remains of the experiment will naturally deorbit very fast. I recall the ham radio suit-sat experiments where they shoved commo gear into surplus obsolete space suits on the ISS (the suit provides a...
[20:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:44] <exec> 08└─Your sweeper sat comes along, trashes the Russian sat thinking it's junk, bang you've just started a war.
[20:14:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 1611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:46] <exec> 08└─First off, "space junk" is generally used to refer to the debris created by previous collisions (and dropped wrenches, etc.), small enough to be difficult to track - intact satellites are easily tracked navigation hazards. Destroying something you publicly called trash has got to be one of the least...
[20:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:48] <exec> 08└─Clearly nobody intends to do it that way. This mission is simply a test mission for the British system designed to remove larger pieces. Since all you have to do is slow space junk down, there are plenty of other less expensive ways to handle the smaller particles. https://thespacereporter.com
[20:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03loonycyborg [6905] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:14] <exec> 08└─The entire issue of Alexander is irrelevant. He was neither greek nor slav. Macedonia is name of particular geographic region irrespective of ethnicity of inhabitants which is currently divided by Republic of Macedonia and Greece. So at least from this point of view it totally makes sense to name it...
[20:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:16] <exec> 08└─Ethanol_fueled, the "John McCain" of immigration policy! Ha ha!
[20:16:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah thats an accurate rephrasing of my second interpretation. It just seems like a bizarre selection of phrase to use in an otherwise normal sounding press release. "professional Israeli debater" I don't even know where to go with that. Like that press release is too weird even for /pol/ on 4chan....
[20:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:52] <exec> 08└─Hmm, I think the jmorris instance of this bot still needs some tweaking. The above post too readily exposes that it's simply stringing together some talking points in a Markov chain based on flimsy heuristics. It still does not pass the Turing/Lovelace test by demonstrating comprehension of the subj...
[20:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IBM Demos an AI System Capable of Debating Humans - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:54] <exec> 08└─Thank you! There was a push a while back about creating some kind of Lovelace test that would be what the Turing test already was. I could write (and have written while logged in) volumes about this, but I will consider the matter settled since the ctrl-left have moved on. However, it made me wonder...
[20:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:16] <exec> 08└─"Speak about arrogance when 2400 years old you be!" (Not-Yoda)
[20:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:18] <exec> 08└─Well in this case there is no Linux, only Debian's packaging of GNU + X + GNOME/KDE/Firefox/LibreOffice/etc. So this new thing has no apps and is solving that by becoming an inferior, less portable substrate for the UNIX/GNU toolchain. Kinda like Be. Sad. At least Be was actually better than Linux a...
[20:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 2535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:56] <exec> 08└─There are other LARP issues with FTL such that traditionally its inside a ship that can control it, but its sometimes pretty tricky to control a field from inside it. Think of how easy it is to charge two capacitor plates using all kinds of gadgetry from the outside of the plates, and its a bit tric...
[20:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:57] <exec> 08└─How are you going to produce the antimatter? After all, it's an energy storage medium, not a source.
[20:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 1550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:59] <exec> 08└─Of course just pointing out that Gen-X as a generation survived $$$/minute tiered long distance audio calls as kids and now stream movies over the internet, and that rate of bandwidth growth starting at mere bits/sec average ending in megs/sec average seems to imply that in just a couple more decade...
[20:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:01] <exec> 08└─Far better to simply encapsulate a red dwarf - they should last trillions of years, far outliving pretty much everything else seen in the universe, and continue outputting star-scale power the entire time. Orders of magnitude less than a larger star, but vastly more than trying to ration the hydroge...
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[21:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 1112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:24] <exec> 08└─Oh and a side dish of previous discussion is the court stated the feds can't tell the states how to apply state taxes. The feds were applying a common sense rule to all states. The ruling does not mean states MUST implement stupid laws, it merely means the feds can't stop states from implementing st...
[21:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:25] <exec> 08└─> No commercial software exists that handles more than a few locations. There will be damned soon! If QuickBooks doesn't do it, maybe one of the payment operations like PayPal or large credit-card processors will step up?
[21:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 1690 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:28] <exec> 08└─So much stupidity here. Having to agree with a minority opinion by Roberts and three of the morons on the court. ARGH! The big e-retailers all supported this. It is another example of big business happy to get in bed with big government to squash competition. Of course this is going to be a frickin'...
[21:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:30] <exec> 08└─Which is older--mail-ordering or local sales tax? Mail order (pre-internet) has been going on for a good while, the Sears catalog used to deliver to the local railroad depot before there were were interstate roads. Any guesses if the big mail order companies lobbied for this type of sales tax "exemp...
[21:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:32] <exec> 08└─It'll be a web app, ad supported. Maybe you go to eBay or PayPal to figure the tax to any particular address. Google could add it to their maps. No need to get all excited.
[21:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:34] <exec> 08└─In the past there was no source of tax information that covered every tiny town with sales tax
[21:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:36] <exec> 08└─Point 2 really resonated with me. But then I think a little it sounds more like a tariff than a sales tax really. And can I argue I am being taxed if I don't cut a check to the state? On any receipt there is a line item for sales tax but I am still paying the vendor, not the state. The vendor pays...
[21:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 902 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:39] <exec> 08└─The people who sell you stuff in a brick-and-mortar store (or a multi-location chain) have to figure it out. Why would the internet sellers be excused, just because they cry that it's too hard ? Can't handle it ? stop selling there ! Of course, some jurisdiction may find that websites stop shipping...
[21:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 1932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:41] <exec> 08└─Both States (and, arguably, some of the in-between states as well) have done about the same to enable your sale. However no state or city justifies taxes based on services they provide. They don't need to. They can tax absolutely anything they want. Same is true of the small communities in which buy...
[21:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:43] <exec> 08└─There will be an official .gov site and downloadable text file to be integrated into software. Each local entity needs to submit a form that defines the geographic area, tax rate and address to mail the check to so the .gov site can aggregate it. What could go wrong? (I claim a 0.0001% on all sales...
[21:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:45] <exec> 08└─Well there are constitutionally mandated ways whereby the Feds can tell the state how to apply taxes. Article 1, section 10 for example.
[21:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:48] <exec> 08└─> If I use a private carrier like UPS, the government of SD ha done approximately NOTHING to help me Are you shipping to a person who has water/electricity/internet, using a carrier which uses an airport, storage facility, and local roads ? Maybe, just maybe, some of those actors paid less tax than...
[21:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:50] <exec> 08└─You have to know WHAT you are shipping WHERE on behalf of WHO and WHEN it is ordered and WHEN and WHERE it is probably delivered. Sales taxes vary wildly based on what is sold, how it is sold, etc. Buy a 2L bottle of cola and pay one rate, buy a fountain drink and pay another, get it with a meal and...
[21:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:52] <exec> 08└─It just depends on where you want to say who is responsible for what transaction so they can take credit for being taxed.
[21:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:54] <exec> 08└─Just got an email from eBay about this decision -- with a pointer to a petition they are sponsoring: https://www.ebaymainstreet.com [ebaymainstreet.com]
[21:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:56] <exec> 08└─>3)... Except if you're selling online to someone in another state you're still NOT going to be paying any taxes - sales taxes are levied on the *customer* not the business. The business is just responsible for collecting them and delivering them to the appropriate governments in exchange for being...
[21:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:59] <exec> 08└─The people who sell you stuff in a brick-and-mortar store (or a multi-location chain) have to figure it out.
[21:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:01] <exec> 08└─The people who sell you stuff in a brick-and-mortar store (or a multi-location chain) have to figure it out. Why would the internet sellers be excused, just because they cry that it's too hard ? Can't handle it ? stop selling there !
[21:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:03] <exec> 08└─Sales taxes are a tax levied on the shopper and must be collected by the merchant and paid to the shopper's home territory.
[21:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:05] <exec> 08└─Two things, which should have been obvious before you went redundant: 1) Physical stores can have many locations across many tax areas, and they keep track. Car dealerships around here (CA) have to figure out your tax based on your home already. It's not like it's a new concept. It's been going on f...
[21:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:08] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised. My first thought on learning of the decision was if it would still be worth the bother to sell anything on eBay. I'm an infrequent seller there, and if I really have to worry about sending taxes on purchases to who the hell knows where, I won't bother selling anything at all. No a...
[21:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:10] <exec> 08└─> is it legal to refuse to sell to, say, Chicago, Illinois, while you do sell to Springfield, Illinois? I honestly don't know. Stores do it all the time. Go back twenty years and try to get a mattress store to deliver 5 miles, let alone 200 miles away !
[21:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:19] <exec> 08└─Verge article also mentions: The Marshall Islands replaces the US dollar with its own cryptocurrency [theverge.com] In the Pacific Ocean.
[21:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Alfred [4006] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:22] <exec> 08└─Great artists steal?
[21:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:24] <exec> 08└─Great artists give away -- see Grateful Dead and their audience recording policy.
[21:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:26] <exec> 08└─Great artist? Never heard of him...is he a friend of Beebers?
[21:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:28] <exec> 08└─Never heard of this person. Moving on.
[21:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Entertainer "Akon" Plans to Build a Cryptocurrency-Based City in Senegal - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:30] <exec> 08└─Who da hell is Guuurk? Next akomment.
[21:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:52] <exec> 08└─Because giving information to a journalist could be whistle blowing. Giving information to competitors could not.
[21:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:18] <exec> 08└─He's explicitly stated multiple times that the big problem with the BFR was funding it, and the latest design solves that problem by scaling it down so it can cost-effectively take over launches currently handled by the F9
[21:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:19] <exec> 08└─The BFR currently being prototyped is also a scaled down version of the originally proposed BFR. The most obvious difference in renderings is the two vacuum engines in the second stage where there used to be 3 (4?), but there was a considerable size reduction as well. It seems they just kept dialing...
[21:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:22] <exec> 08└─There are multiple configurations, such as the fuel tanker. Maybe they will optimize one for LEO only. Also I say ~150 tons because the rumor mill thinks the vehicle height and payload capacity will be boosted a little bit.
[21:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:24] <exec> 08└─Yes there are, but they are seemingly all build on basically the same "rocket" base (fuel tank size notwithstanding) Hmm, Wikipedia says the BFR was unveiled in September 2017 - I could have sworn the name had been tossed around for much longer than that, but if not then the ITS/BFR transition may i...
[21:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google's Fuchsia OS Adds Emulator for Debian Linux Applications - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:15] <exec> 08└─Being arrogant and being correct are not mutually exclusive.
[21:19:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:57] <exec> 08└─Sure, but the energy levels are going to be miniscule in comparison, at least for a similar mass. Though I suppose you could hang out around the galactic core once all the stars burn out. Or you could rip apart stars into sub-critical masses and use the hydrogen to trickle-feed your primary star (or...
[21:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:58] <exec> 08└─Actually even supernova is not powerful enough to produce the interesting species such as gold and uranium. They think neutron stars collision is the source.
[21:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:01] <exec> 08└─I've heard that a bright idea of filling the universe by little copies of oneself is not taken lightly by the existing population. A pest extermination ship in the vicinity takes care of the infestation in most cases.
[21:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:03] <exec> 08└─With any luck, we can drag the Earth into the Sun.
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[22:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:45] <exec> 08└─Point 2 really resonated with me.
[22:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:47] <exec> 08└─Why do we put up with this obvious crap? The amount of lost productivity due to such poorly defined bureaucratic red-tape is unthinkable. The other AC's comment resonates with me: Maybe taxation is a bad way to organize society.
[22:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:49] <exec> 08└─The AC is right. Your points are stupid.
[22:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:51] <exec> 08└─This subject is probably of great interest to all of us, but on the green site it's fallen from the main page already.
[22:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:54] <exec> 08└─1) Physical stores can have many locations across many tax areas, and they keep track.
[22:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:56] <exec> 08└─But I ship some stuff to ... South Dakota, what has SD ever done for me, especially pre-sale? If I use a private carrier like UPS, the government of SD ha done approximately NOTHING to help me, thus deserving no tax revenue.
[22:13:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:58] <exec> 08└─Are you shipping to a person who has water/electricity/internet, using a carrier which uses an airport, storage facility, and local roads ?
[22:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dale [539] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 1045 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:00] <exec> 08└─I deal with sales tax at work. Trying to figure out what is and isn't taxable isn't the easiest thing and it is literally part of what I do. It will be even more complex for out of state businesses. Figuring out what the rate is for a given address is still more complex than it needs to be. There is...
[22:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:02] <exec> 08└─The time to fight has passed. The supreme court has decided and it can take decades until they overrule themselves again.
[22:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:05] <exec> 08└─TFA is from yesterday. Get over it.
[22:14:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:07] <exec> 08└─Maybe taxation is a bad way to organize society.
[22:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 604 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:09] <exec> 08└─For all practical purposes, it is rock solid. The Supreme Court will have to overrule itself for the situation to change. Quill vs North Dakota kept online trade open for the last 25 years, but now "things have changed because internet", and states can now effectively levy import tariffs. It is the...
[22:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:11] <exec> 08└─Physical stores can have many locations across many tax areas, and they keep track.
[22:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:13] <exec> 08└─1) Physical stores can have many locations across many tax areas, and they keep track.
[22:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:16] <exec> 08└─Deliver != Sale If you are willing to cart the mattress away on top of your car (or in your truck) they do not care where you live, and will sell you as many mattresses as you wish to buy. All of the sales, however, will be charged the sales tax rules of the locality within which the physical mattre...
[22:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:18] <exec> 08└─Admittedly I should be better informed than I am but having at this point done zero research I'm a bit confused. Does this mean that if the retailer is in one state and the purchaser in another, then BOTH states get to collect sales tax now? I perhaps naively assumed that any applicable sales tax on...
[22:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Sues Former Employee it Accuses of Sabotage - 1180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:54] <exec> 08└─It's always whistleblowing. This is my car analogy come to life. I used to explain the explain the Snowden issue with the example of a person "whistleblowing" at a car company! It was Ford though, not Tesla. Maybe it should have been Volkswagen. So, suppose your employer seems to be cheating on dies...
[22:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 761 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:24] <exec> 08└─if you're 'pro' SpaceX, you have to be 'anti' SLS/NASA if you're 'pro' NASA, you have to be 'anti' SpaceX. This is a law on the internet. Stop adding nuance to debates (popularity contests/mud slinging/whatever) If someone with reservations about a space start-up, who is 'pro' an *idea* of NASA (kin...
[22:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:26] <exec> 08└─Are you trying to point out that Tesla Motors became just Tesla?
[22:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Air Force Certifies Falcon Heavy, Awards SpaceX $130 Million Contract for 2020 Launch - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:28] <exec> 08└─Pro-NASA = Anti-SLS. SLS is a Congress-mandated pork rocket. NASA gets more cash for its development than it even asks for. NASA Gets Money it Didn't Ask for to Fund Second SLS Mobile Launcher; WFIRST Mission Receives Funds [soylentnews.org] House Spending Bill Offers NASA More Money Than the Agency...
[22:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:47] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect [wikipedia.org]
[22:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Offers Up to $5,000 to Kill Lionfish - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:48] <exec> 08└─It seems like a really bad idea [wikipedia.org] for amateurs to be handling these. But then again, Florida.
[22:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Macedonia Formally Changes Name to "Republic of North Macedonia" - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:23] <exec> 08└─I'm the Adolf Hitler of immigration policy.
[22:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 2573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:16] <exec> 08└─As for why there is a such a difference between cannabis smokers and tobacco smokers, I don't know the answer. Nor do I, but there is a growing mountain of (admittedly anectdotal) evidence that cannabis has curative properties for most forms of cancer. I myself fought stage IV colon cancer for 6 yea...
[22:19:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UK Government Rejects Calls to Legalize Recreational Use of Cannabis Following Medical Incident - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:17] <exec> 08└─When you make things illegal you encourage violence. They are already breaking the law, why not knock it up a few notches and REALLY make some money? Not how I'd go about it, but plenty enough humans do.
[22:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:13] <exec> 08└─The goal of all civilizations may be to move themselves into a lower energy consumption state, such as uploaded minds. Or if we get spooky/magical, ascend like in Stargate SG-1.
[22:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kardashev Type III Civilizations Could Resist the Expansion of the Universe by Moving Stars - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:14] <exec> 08└─Of course just pointing out that Gen-X as a generation survived $$$/minute tiered long distance audio calls as kids and now stream movies over the internet, and that rate of bandwidth growth starting at mere bits/sec average ending in megs/sec average seems to imply that in just a couple more decade...
[22:20:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06EU Committee Approves Controversial Copyright Directive - 1057 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:30] <exec> 08└─I refuse. SN should also. Fuck literally everything about this. Automated filters cannot and will never be able to handle fair use. The copyright landscape is a fucking nightmare, with different things in the public domain in different countries. As far as I know, SN is not based in Europe. Fuck the...
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[23:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monsanto Faces First US Trial Over Roundup Cancer Link - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:16] <exec> 08└─If Monsanto is destroyed, it can only be a good thing for the world. This would be a good time for it to happen, because the President of the United States says we're at full employment, so all the Monsanto workers will be able to find new jobs as ICE agents.
[23:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monsanto Faces First US Trial Over Roundup Cancer Link - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:18] <exec> 08└─1. Destroy Roundup 2. Full speed ahead with population control 3. ??? 4. Elysium
[23:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06China Just Handed the World a 111-Million-Ton Trash Problem - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:25] <exec> 08└─WTF, UN... You just need to put your plastic waste in a blue bin and it will get recycled, duh.
[23:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06China Just Handed the World a 111-Million-Ton Trash Problem - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:28] <exec> 08└─With all this talk about machines getting smart and taking away people's jobs, you'd think they would be able to sort through trash, which no human actually wants to do.
[23:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:18] <exec> 08└─I haven't looked at the ruling -- is it constitutional based? If not, the matter can be resolved by the legislature passing a law the president signs addressing the issue.
[23:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:19] <exec> 08└─Nice near-offtopic rambling. Couldn't quite figure out how to mod that mess. In a nutshell, for the government to get money, they can tax three things: 1) What people have 2) What people earn 3) What people spend The balancing and tradeoffs between those three does fill a mid-size library. Any sugge...
[23:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:22] <exec> 08└─I've worked on code to do something very much like this nationally, and it's a fucking nightmare. Doesn't help when it's badly done, and in the wrong language for the job, but even so it's nutty. Last I checked, the rules (in this system) for alcohol and tobacco were especially complex, based around...
[23:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:24] <exec> 08└─Yes and no. I'm a couple hours south of Chicago. If I drive to Chicago and go shopping on Michigan Avenue I pay their higher sales tax. If someone from Chicago comes to downstate Illinois and buys a car here, they still pay Chicago sales tax on it. This may vary in other states.
[23:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06US Supreme Court Rules 5-4: States Can Force Internet Companies to Collect Sales Tax - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:26] <exec> 08└─It was based on the imperative "we must give the states more money". But watch the states cry, when the mail order vendors based in their states go out of business, and they lose all the income tax from the former employees. How far will they now have to crawl up Amazon's ass to get them to hire a f...
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[23:15:58] <exec> 08└─Way ahead of it's time, apparently. Isaac Asimov was the show's scientific adviser: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[23:15:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Junk Removal Testing Craft Ejected From the ISS - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:59] <exec> 08└─IF anyone here is old enough to remember.
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