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[13:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:15] <exec> 08└─Somebody finally took the time to think about wax on fruit and how to do it better? When I lived in Miami I had a very productive avocado tree in the backyard, I used to make (but not eat) guacamole with the push-lawnmower. I also developed a nasty allergy to avocado which went away a few years afte...
[13:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:23] <exec> 08└─So Trump went to Singapore and managed to get permission from Kim to 1) Hang a picture of Kim on the whitehouse wall 2) Stop military exercises with South Korea He's a great negotiator.
[13:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:25] <exec> 08└─I can't say that I really care about this North Korea business, but if Trump actually cared about saving money, he wouldn't have signed off on a large increase in military spending when we already have a ridiculously bloated military. Not only that, but he would completely end the 7+ interventions a...
[13:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:27] <exec> 08└─Saved money, huh? How nice. Did it move the Doomsday clock back? Do Republicans suddenly care about Balancing the Budget again? I read there's over $1 trillion in spending planned for nuclear weapons, and, astonishingly, that was before Trump. Trump of course wants to spend even more on nukes. Maybe...
[13:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03OrugTor [5147] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:29] <exec> 08└─My first reaction was amazement at the inarticulacy. The man sounds retarded.
[13:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Isolate Protein Data From the Tiniest of Caches -- Single Human Cells - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:37] <exec> 08└─It's neat to see research results like this from a National Lab -- all that money is going to something constructive (instead of destructive, which I think was the original goal of many of the national labs).
[13:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:49] <exec> 08└─Could we please get some clarification between when we are talking about the A-10 Warthog ground attack plane that Americans use to kill friendly forces like the Brits in Iraq, and some alleged English highway where British murdering perverts leave their victims? Thank you.
[13:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:50] <exec> 08└─Putting a prop up front impedes visibility. It was justified prior to jet engines because twin-engine planes were expensive and pusher props have numerous issues: hit by ice off the wings, engine overheating, ground strike, etc. We can and should make a few modest upgrades. Recently, geared turbofan...
[13:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:52] <exec> 08└─You're just anti-Brrrt: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:54] <exec> 08└─Imagine the F35A for close air support, aka "low and slow"... The only time the F35A is capable of low and slow is on the runway. Even compared to the other F35s, the F35A is the worst. The F35C has larger wings and is at least capable of going slow enough to land on a carrier, while the F35B can te...
[13:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, but I am pro-Brexit! England for Anglo-Saxon invaders, I say!
[13:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:59] <exec> 08└─Well, if the air space is uncontested, then the enemy obviously doesn't have a lot of game, and army grunts can handle things on the ground by themselves.
[13:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:01] <exec> 08└─And, oh, my apologies! A French Highway in Britain. "But you're French! What are you doing in England?" "Go way, or I will taunt you a second thyme! Pffft! Pffft!"
[13:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:03] <exec> 08└─Kinda of the cowardly American approach. I prefer the Browncoats. "We are just too pretty for God to let us die!"
[13:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:05] <exec> 08└─You don't see the prop, even looking right through it. Neither does your own radar, or your targeting system, or your FLIR. As the story points out OA-X wasn't a single aircraft, it was a competition. There were 4 or 5 contenders but only two made it to the final selection stage. https://en.wikipedi...
[13:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:08] <exec> 08└─And if the airspace IS contested, you can't afford to go slow. Just because the A10 is slow doesn't mean it is optimum. Hitting the target while being too fast to be hit your self is far more preferable.
[13:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:10] <exec> 08└─the F35: close air support when you don't *need* close air support. Perfect for war games and parades!
[13:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03aim [6322] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:12] <exec> 08└─Looking at Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], it looks like the contestants are all re-purposed trainers and light recon planes - even a crop duster (Dusty Crophopper from Planes!), for $DEITY sake! None of these were designed for the purpose at hand, namely loitering over a small-arms infected territory, b...
[13:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:14] <exec> 08└─Also, look at what they're considering: "AirTractor and L3's AT-802L Longsword; Sierra Nevada and Embraer's A-29 Super Tucano; and Textron and AirLand LLC's Beechcraft AT-6B Wolverine". Holy fsck, a cropduster, an actual military aircraft sourced from Brazil, and a basic trainer. Is this actually th...
[13:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:17] <exec> 08└─What about a Shturmovik? That seems to fit their requirements exactly, and it already has a proven track record.
[13:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:19] <exec> 08└─I thought F-35s were supposed to have VTOL/loitering in air capability?
[13:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:21] <exec> 08└─I mean, the design itself is solid from what I understand. There's a lot of things where the left and right have been specifically designed to be interchangeable, so you can store less parts. Its supposedly able to take a heap of damage, and has been designed that way, placement of the engines, armo...
[13:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:23] <exec> 08└─The VTOL version is the F35B, aka the marines version. And it's actually STOVL (short take off, vertical landing) except at airshows, because it can only hover with no weapons or with an empty tank. F35A (the one discussed here) is the small winged airforce version. F35C is the larger winged carrier...
[13:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:26] <exec> 08└─"Too fast to be hit yourself" is a lot faster than "too fast to aim".
[13:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:28] <exec> 08└─The general design of the A-10 is excellent.
[13:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:30] <exec> 08└─What they actually need is a drone, probably a drone just robust enough to carry a few gatling guns like puff [wikipedia.org] and take a few hits.
[13:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:32] <exec> 08└─Turbine / turbofan engines are incredibly expensive, often more expensive than the airframe+avionics of the aircraft they power. Turboprops are a step toward more economical power.
[13:14:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:35] <exec> 08└─We're headed there... every major wargame simulation that includes economic considerations finds that a massive number of cheap fighting assets easily overwhelms an equivalently budgeted force of more sophisticated fighting assets. All the cheap force needs is enough "boom" to take out the expensive...
[13:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Revek [5022] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:37] <exec> 08└─Its was perfectly engineered and has a long life span. Still pretty cheap to maintain and finally extremely effective. Its keeping these air craft manufacturers from selling more shit we don't need. So of course it has to go.
[13:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:39] <exec> 08└─Is there a recent FF incident with British troops I didn't hear about, or are you referring to the discredited USA-Today article that used baked numbers [jqpublicblog.com] to misrepresent the friendly-fire risk of A10 missions?
[13:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:47] <exec> 08└─So ... seeing how it all turned out, how likely is it that the initial child porn accusations were completely manufactured? Keep that in mind, anytime you see it happening again. The US is not governed by the rule of law anymore. It is governed by the rule of might, and the law is just a fig leaf to...
[13:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:49] <exec> 08└─This is why making it illegal to merely possess something (child porn, drugs, etc.) is so dangerous; it is all too easy to plant the thing that is illegal. Police do that all too often with drugs, and it's even easier with child porn, which is just data.
[13:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:52] <exec> 08└─Gee, you just noticed? Laws are merely an apparatus of the state, selectively enforced to ensure compliance. I keep trying to explain that laws are like tools, you control the tools, not the other way around. Now throw in some PR and everyone and their dogs will cheer for it, those opposing it will...
[13:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:54] <exec> 08└─I wish to possess slaves and plutonium.
[13:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:56] <exec> 08└─That's totally fine with me ... provided that: 1. You handle the plutonium safely (fire-protected storage, radiation shielded, keep away from kids, do not pollute the air or groundwater with dust, adequate protection against theft). Since these things tend to be handled loosely even by professionals...
[13:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 912 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:58] <exec> 08└─the argument against random people playing with plutonium is different from the argument against drug/child porn possession. with the latter, they say "well the producers of these objects are bad people, and they do bad things, so by owning their output, you are supporting them". with plutonium, I w...
[13:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:01] <exec> 08└─The tl;dr point: "how likely is it that the initial child porn and the subsequent leaking accusations were completely manufactured?". With the consequence of: So do not anger the mighty, or they will ruin your life, if only to strike fear into the hearts of other opponents (not enemies!).
[13:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:09] <exec> 08└─Feeding a URL to archive.li (and its old browser) sometimes fails completely without any indication of what went wrong. WTF?? [archive.li] (orig) [mediamatters.org] The other day, I found a site that does things properly (and explains to the folks scratching their head just WTF is going on). http://...
[13:15:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:11] <exec> 08└─one of these days I'll figure out how to set up my own local MITM proxy so I can browse plain old http again without all of the pointless errors about certificates and "unable to complete secure transaction" allowing webtards to decide what software I can run (by deliberately breaking everything els...
[13:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:14] <exec> 08└─The last nail in the coffin would be, formally and finally, to ban application fallback to the hopelessly insecure TLS 1.0 and 1.1 standards.
[13:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:16] <exec> 08└─TLS 1.0 has been in use for years. Was anyone actually pwned in the wild because of those weaknesses? People are far more likely to be pwned by governments/corporations using their CA certs to MITM people. There have been actual real cases of this happening: https://www.theregister.co.uk
[13:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:18] <exec> 08└─As a followup based on a PM, since I never set any benchmark for what resources it would take, let's say you can call something "hopelessy insecure" if you can achieve either full plaintext recovery or full message forgery in close to real time, say 5 seconds or less. That figure is chosen so it won...
[13:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:20] <exec> 08└─I would still not consider that "hopelessly insecure". For me, hopelessly insecure is when a non-expert with access to Google can break the security in 5 minutes or less. If someone is able to break Paypal or eBay, it might just mean that that person is good at this (or: spend enough effort to defea...
[13:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 1451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:22] <exec> 08└─Really? I've seen certificate errors about... what... once a year or less. Considering the sheer number of websites I visit, and that most of those errors are literally insecure websites, that's nowhere near a hassle. The threat isn't from ISPs. It's from ANY malware on your network or anywhere in t...
[13:15:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 3368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:25] <exec> 08└─Oh come on. The first was written in 1998, you really expect it to still be secure: https://www.gracefulsecurity.com [gracefulsecurity.com] DROWN: "It allows an attacker who has an effective man-in-the-middle to break the encryption of a TLS connection in under eight hours w...
[13:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:27] <exec> 08└─The only ones in there that are a real threat, fallback to insecure ciphers and implementation bugs, aren't helped by going to TLS 1.2 or 1.3. In addition several of the attacks you've cited there as if they were attacks on the main protocol are simply fallback attacks, e.g. DROWN, which is an attac...
[13:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:29] <exec> 08└─So you are just posting a huge list without actually reading it and pretending it actually supports your claim? The only one on that list i saw that had anything to do with TLS 1.0 or 1.1 was beast, only TLS 1.0 was vulnerable not 1.1 like you claimed. There are several about cypher suites, those ca...
[13:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:31] <exec> 08└─Plus, there's no excuse for even internal services not to have a valid TLS nowadays. They are literally free (LetsEncrypt).
[13:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:39] <exec> 08└─..What if I'm proficient at everything? Does that mean I'm good with my right hand, left hand, and the one in the middle?
[13:15:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03beernutz [4365] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:42] <exec> 08└─The left/right brain idea has been studied a LOT and in many ways completely dis-proven, or so I thought. https://www.psychologytoday.com [psychologytoday.com]
[13:15:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:44] <exec> 08└─Consider that if you ask around, everyone who happens to have that third arm that you speak about will declare proficiency in its use.
[13:15:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:46] <exec> 08└─Well, it's said that 10,000 hours of "practice" in anything will make you a world-class expert...
[13:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:48] <exec> 08└─Narcissistic personality disorder is another fake one. Winning tremendously is not a disease!!!
[13:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:50] <exec> 08└─Who are you kidding? You'll be claiming mental deficiency as soon as you're charged with your first batch of felonies.
[13:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 2181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:53] <exec> 08└─Recent NPR expose on the "Balanced Brain" scam by some quack chiropactor (but I repeat myself) claiming to treat autism spectrum, at great expense. https://www.npr.org
[13:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:55] <exec> 08└─I'm mostly ambidextrous. Everything except writing is easily done with my left hand, and in many cases preferred. For example, I don't feel uncomfortable using my PC mouse left handed, and I default to the left hand for touchpads on laptops. Maybe this partially explains why I'm such a fucking nutca...
[13:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:57] <exec> 08└─I'm kinda surprised we haven't really pinned down what causes handedness, and what purpose it serves. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] The linked wiki is interesting in some ways. One conclusion of the fraternal birth order is...
[13:16:05] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Mykl [1112] 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 809 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:06] <exec> 08└─Hang on, I'm having a hard time working out who I'm supposed to be supporting here. Should I be cheering on China for sticking it to Trump with tariffs and introducing him to unintended consequences? Or saluting Congress for taking a hard line against those who would deal with evil dictatorships lik...
[13:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:08] <exec> 08└─Whatever opposes Trumpf the most.
[13:16:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:11] <exec> 08└─Bad idea, it will mean too many jobs in China lost. Keep the deal I made, VERY FAIR to all sides. To all sides!!!!
[13:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:13] <exec> 08└─Not sure why we should care about Iran. ZTE was ready to pay $1.5B for their misdeeds, real or imaginary. The tariff war is profitable only to resellers, who take %% off the price, and to the government (that already has enough.) To everyone else it's a new tax.
[13:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 1601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:15] <exec> 08└─-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 hehehehe donnie should make a deal with china already, something along the lines of they display his cheap crap all along their great wall, while he's solving their ethnic minority problems. nuke taiwan, send ninja squads to steal all tibetan children,...
[13:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:17] <exec> 08└─"Who knew [fill-in-the-blank] was so complicated?"
[13:16:19] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 38 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:20] <exec> 08└─Not sure why we should care about Iran
[13:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:22] <exec> 08└─All those american workers in all those cellphone factories are very happy about this.
[13:16:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:24] <exec> 08└─Possibly you're being sarcastic. Or possibly you're very dumb or don't like to read. Because our Senate wants to stop ZTE from buying American cellphone parts. As a punishment to ZTE. But if it happens it will hurt our great American workers. Who I always, always put first!!!!
[13:16:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:26] <exec> 08└─Well played. Get to be the good cop while talking to the Chinese, and still NOT lose any bargaining chips. Bout time those guys in Congress get with the game plan. Better to let Congress play bad cop for a while. They think they are winning. Chuckle.
[13:16:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 1783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:29] <exec> 08└─How about a different idea? Each of the actors involved, including the US politicians and the US voters, has good points and bad points. Take domestic politics, for instance. I mostly despise our "left", but from time to time, they have a good idea. I despise our "right" a little less, but from time...
[13:16:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:31] <exec> 08└─-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Also, I'm badly in need of cash to support my drug habit. Will be in Balboa Park this evening, willing to perform deviant sex acts for twenty dollars a pop. Will be dressed in hot pink shorts and lavender wife beater T. ~ the mouth of anonymous 0x9932F...
[13:16:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:33] <exec> 08└─Help me SoylentNews - tell me what to think please!
[13:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:35] <exec> 08└─How do you suppose that Trump is colluding with the D team? It seems more likely to me that Trump went off script, and the real ruling class is correcting it. The only way we can correct for that is to vote out the 85 senators that voted to pass the bill. Both the R teamers and the D teamers need to...
[13:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:38] <exec> 08└─If you need to focus on one I'd go with this one: "Or asking myself why it's so bad to deal with Iran but not with Saudi Arabia (and then remembering money)?"
[13:16:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:40] <exec> 08└─Unless
[13:16:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 314 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:42] <exec> 08└─"We hate Iran because the constant propaganda we get tells us to. We hate them because they had the audacity to remove the dictator we forced on them." And mostly because our foreign policy has become captive of the Israeli and Saudi interests, and both of them would desperately like to see us bomb...
[13:16:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:44] <exec> 08└─They make comparable phones 5 times cheaper. Just saying...
[13:16:46] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 412 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:46] <exec> 08└─USA doesn't have a Left. The Dumbocrats are only slightly less Right.[1] [politicalcompass.org] Don't believe me? Ask a bigwig. [google.com] [1] ...and that chart is skewed to the left. Nader hardly ever mentions worker-owned cooperatives[2]--and then only in passing. I have NEVER heard Kucinich men...
[13:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:49] <exec> 08└─Upon agreeing to ease up on ZTE, Trump's development project in Indonesia got a $half-billion investment from China.gov. [google.com] The dude can't go an hour without violating one of the multiple instances of emoluments clauses in the Constitution. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[13:16:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:51] <exec> 08└─all the evil things that ZTE did (or did not) do, our own corporations are doing as bad and worse, all over the world.
[13:16:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:53] <exec> 08└─Lorax? Is that you? Have you ever noticed that Trump resembles the Lorax? I think I need a Sneed.
[13:16:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:55] <exec> 08└─Or possibly you're very dumb or don't like to read.
[13:16:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:16:57] <exec> 08└─I think you should be adding "Why are we even talking about this since Trump can easily veto their objection and let his business deal continue."
[13:16:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:00] <exec> 08└─And, keep in mind that all the evil things that ZTE did (or did not) do, our own corporations are doing as bad and worse, all over the world.
[13:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:02] <exec> 08└─The dude can't go an hour without violating one of the multiple instances of emoluments clauses in the Constitution.
[13:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:04] <exec> 08└─Help me SoylentNews - tell me what to think please!
[13:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:06] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't coming up with a case. The problem is that both House and Senate need to overwhelmingly support it.
[13:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:08] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't coming up with a case. The problem is that both House and Senate need to overwhelmingly support it.
[13:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:11] <exec> 08└─Trump is the Once-ler. Perhaps GP is a green Lorax? Are sneeds non-GMO, cruelty-free, zero-emissions, and sustainable? The Once-ler's family from Weehawken must have an immortal trademark or patent or similar on the name Thneed™, further illustrating the problems caused by excessive capitalism.
[13:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:13] <exec> 08└─Help me SoylentNews - tell me what to think please!
[13:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:15] <exec> 08└─With 2/3s of both houses of congress, the elites can override Trump's veto.
[13:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:17] <exec> 08└─Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! UID 6614! UID 6614! UID 6614!
[13:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:26] <exec> 08└─The scale of ContentID/demonetization/etc. madness exceeds anything that could possibly be encompassed by this story. I guess the news here is that some big+legit channels have been hit by it. They are the channels most likely to get the mistake resolved in their favor... https://www.youtube.com
[13:17:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:28] <exec> 08└─My wild guess is that someone who doesn't know how neural network works and on what case it should be used, trained it on some sample and decided to apply it. But anyway, I find the situation highly amusing.
[13:17:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:30] <exec> 08└─Indeed, one might say the NN was trained to take a wild guess.
[13:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:32] <exec> 08└─If you're using gratis SAAS, you're the product, not the customer. Don't act surprised when the response of the vendor's customer service department leaves something to be desired.
[13:17:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03pipedwho [2032] 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 218 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:34] <exec> 08└─For every one of these high profile accounts there are probably 100,000 ‘nobodies’ that have befallen the same fate. At least these high profile guys have a chance of getting the situation resolved in their favour.
[13:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03citizenr [2737] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:37] <exec> 08└─https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blender-videos-worldwide/ [blender.org] >I’ve received an update from our experts stating that you need to enable ads for your video. Once you enable, your video will be available in the USA.
[13:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:39] <exec> 08└─It seems the issue is about monetization. See contract [blender.org] from BF page with news [blender.org] (search "Tuesday 19 June 2018, by Ton Roosendaal", in case it moved down the page... #anchors are haaaaaaaaaard, they had to replace the functionality with JS and "Be awesome in space" tooltip i...
[13:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:41] <exec> 08└─Hardly, it sounds quite clear that it's youtubes 'anti-piracy' filters that are to blame. Which isn't surprising. You can no more detect piracy than you can detect sin. Physical tests for theological essences isn't really something that works.
[13:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:43] <exec> 08└─I'm just waiting for youtube's piracy filter to turn their entire site in to one big "404 not found - Sorry about that :\" page.
[13:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:46] <exec> 08└─Then in a couple of days you will get a mea culpa from YT. They will fix that one instance and leave the others twisting in the wind. Congratulations youtube you are killing the golden goose!
[13:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:48] <exec> 08└─It's amusing since if you want to be on the safe side everything except the MIT and officially free stuff should be blocked. But then how many would watch Youtube?
[13:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:50] <exec> 08└─They are the channels most likely to get the mistake resolved in their favor
[13:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 1145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:52] <exec> 08└─Does anyone remember Trans-X? If you say it out loud, it sounds like "trans sex." And they had one hit, so far ahead of its time. They sang, "stop living on video." When hardly anybody did that. Everybody danced to that song. Nobody really listened to it. But it came true. Because we're all living o...
[13:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:54] <exec> 08└─For me it does nothing, click any of the thumbnails and orange line renders at top of page, then nothing (this is with JS, FF52ESR).
[13:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:57] <exec> 08└─I though the "you can run your videos ad free, for free" model was a bit too good to be true. But from YouTube POV if these channels are getting thousands of views a day then they are going to want a bite of the pie. I always wanted to know why some videos have a single advert and others can have 4+...
[13:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:59] <exec> 08└─Thank you, really.. I've been having their "Message on the radio" stuck in my head for weeks without being able to get it out. Now I can finally listen to it so I at least will have more than a single verse stuck..
[13:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:01] <exec> 08└─I've tried blender.org videos with a few browsers with javascript enabled. Pale Moon doesn't work. This is the great promise of the web, realized! One, universal, compatible platform to publish your "apps"! Cross-platform far better than those dummies who write native applications for the OS! CAN'T...
[13:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:10] <exec> 08└─Get in here kurenai, it's habbening! (At least it's not SpaceX.) If this is a "boy who cried wolf" play to keep the stock from tanking, Musk will never live this down. Even if the sabotage is true, will it help him get the company back on track and hitting/exceeding production targets? ie. How bad w...
[13:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:12] <exec> 08└─The search for a scapegoat started. This means that Musk will have to surrender some position, and there is no way to cover it up. He also preemptively attacked the likely critics. A sad sight.
[13:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:14] <exec> 08└─http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/19/technology/tesla-fire-musk-note/index.html [cnn.com] In an email to Tesla employees late Sunday night, CEO Elon Musk says that an unnamed employee admitted to sabotaging the company's Freemont, California plant. And of course CNN never lies. Also at https://www.pcmag....
[13:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:16] <exec> 08└─It would have been easy to believe the sabotage story months ago, but with stuff like this coming out, you have to wonder if it is just a desperate strategy to keep the hype train moving full speed ahead: Elon Musk's Pravda: "'Rate My Professor' but for Journalists" [soylentnews.org] Why did it take...
[13:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:19] <exec> 08└─The source is still the Musk email, so grain of salt. Let's see the employee fess up in an apology video, or get prosecuted for it.
[13:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:21] <exec> 08└─Tesla CEO Elon Musk has accused a Tesla employee of "quite extensive and damaging sabotage to our operations," according to an email obtained by CNBC. In the all-hands email to Tesla staff, Musk wrote that the employee had made "direct code changes" to the company's production systems
[13:18:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:23] <exec> 08└─Hahahahaha, secret proprietary code can't get a decent review because one would have to jump through flaming hoops just to get read access? Who would have thunk it... In other news, Elon Musk is stuck with permanent erection ever since he was able to push "direct code changes" into cars ostensibly...
[13:18:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:25] <exec> 08└─inb5 Autopilot deaths get blamed on employ33 c0de sab0tage.
[13:18:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Sulla [5173] 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:27] <exec> 08└─Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then - Philip K. Dick
[13:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:30] <exec> 08└─flaming hoops
[13:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 1403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:32] <exec> 08└─The problem is that a lot of car companies are throwing tons of money into electric cars. They aren't trying to crush it, they're trying to tap it. Which could lend credence to "exporting large amounts of Tesla's data to unknown third parties". Perhaps they are only entering into the market because...
[13:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:34] <exec> 08└─Odd to see so much scepticism for what is essentially a basic fact and a recognized and often-utilized tool in capitalistic competition. Given the companies and people Tesla is working against, I'm frankly shocked we haven't heard about many more instances of things like this. I expected them to go...
[13:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:36] <exec> 08└─so much scepticism
[13:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:38] <exec> 08└─One of my favorite SF books is Pillar to the Sky by William Forstchen about a billionaire spending ~100 billion to build a space elevator. *SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) In the book some company paid off a rogue actor country to shoot missiles midway up the space elevator to bri...
[13:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:41] <exec> 08└─unnamed employee admitted to sabotaging the company's Freemont, California plant.
[13:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:43] <exec> 08└─I for one hope we let capitalism run its course and Tesla dies for not just thinking about the next quarter. Why aren't these greedy bastards at Tesla more concerned about MY dividend.
[13:18:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:45] <exec> 08└─It can't last forever. They have to roll out some cars. If they can't hit production targets, it doesn't matter if the issue is hubris or saboteurs.
[13:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:47] <exec> 08└─No worries until he moves into a hotel and wraps himself in saran wrap. Come to think of it, there aren't likely any germs on Mars.
[13:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:49] <exec> 08└─Musk's story smells bad even with the very little I've read. Without RTFA, I can see he is exaggerating and even imagining the supposed damage that occurred. > exporting "large amounts" of Tesla's data to unknown third parties. So, some data was copied? But, it wasn't maliciously altered or deleted?...
[13:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:52] <exec> 08└─ELON MUSK: 'If We Published Patents, It Would Be Farcical' [businessinsider.com] (SpaceX) All Our Patent Are Belong To You [tesla.com] Tesla battery patents further proof of Elon Musk’s duplicitous views on patents [ipwatchdog.com] Tesla continues to rack up patents despite Elon Musk’s supposed...
[13:18:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:54] <exec> 08└─Just give it some time - the first SpaceX sabotage will be done by Putin himself.
[13:18:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:56] <exec> 08└─No: Russia may lack the funds to compete with SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket [arstechnica.com] More likely is United Launch Alliance for the sabotage play, and China for stealing as many SpaceX trade secrets as possible by hacking or spies within the company.
[13:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 1531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:58] <exec> 08└─I know nothing about what Tesla's running in their plant, but I do know a thing or two about process automation. So, on the subject of code reviews... 'real' software (like the browser I write this in or the kernel that runs the operating system on this PC), and PLC or other automation software (lik...
[13:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:00] <exec> 08└─The problem is that a lot of car companies are throwing tons of money into electric cars. They aren't trying to crush it, they're trying to tap it.
[13:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 875 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:03] <exec> 08└─That is true over the long run, but Elon has many more cards to play. He's a strategic thinker, and quite driven. No matter what else you might think about the guy, you have to grant him that because he's trying to change the world in material ways across several dimensions with several companies. H...
[13:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 2235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:05] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile, it looks like Chevy Bolt sales are slightly exceeding the production schedule, see https://insideevs.com [insideevs.com] This is pretty recent, from June 1, 2018: ... In March and April, the Chevrolet Volt [plug-in hybrid] barely edge...
[13:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03jasassin [3566] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:13] <exec> 08└─Do birthdays count when you're already dead?
[13:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 1905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:15] <exec> 08└─It is official; Surveys now confirm: The EU is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered EU last week when Italian minister Matteo Salvini denied human trafficking vessels the right to make port. With immigration pressures on Italy and Greece already at breaking point; political...
[13:19:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 0, Offtopic) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:17] <exec> 08└─Tourism numbers in France and Germany have dwindled due to terrorism https://data.worldbank.org [worldbank.org] So for 2016: Germany 2016 record high, 1.5% up on 2015 France was at 2012 levels, with a 1% fall in 2016 from 2015 T...
[13:19:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:19] <exec> 08└─Every couple years I take another look at FreeBSD or OpenBSD. Even tried NetBSD. It usually gets pretty tedious pretty quickly. As a general purpose work platform, you are always way behind the feature curve of just about ports package you would want to use, therefore requiring you to build them fro...
[13:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:22] <exec> 08└─I use OpenBSD exclusively, except for a few ARM boards that aren't well supported, and I've always found ports to be pretty up-to-date. The only ports I've modified from the original is urxvt to add the scrolling support patch, and a git flavor of luakit because they changed a bunch of configuration...
[13:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:24] <exec> 08└─The best part of the BSDs is carefully debugging and patching a lib/program just to watch it disappear into a proprietary corporate product. You know the ones - muli-billion dollar company that never pushes out its fixes/updates to the public. Yeah, that's the best part of the BSDs.
[13:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:26] <exec> 08└─Google seems to think so, they're doodle celebrates some dead bodies birthday almost every day it seems.
[13:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:28] <exec> 08└─Dead at age 24 [freebsd.org], too danged young.
[13:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:31] <exec> 08└─Of course that is the license and not the operating system. Your patches can remain free and open. If you want to make a principled stand, you can license your patched version under the GPL.
[13:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:41] <exec> 08└─So last week we get a story of how Sony is screwing over their own console owners re: Fortnite [soylentnews.org], and how they are too inept to deal with it. Now Microsoft says "hold my beer". How on earth do they think no one is watching or that no one will notice? The internet never forgets.
[13:19:42] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 775 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:43] <exec> 08└─IBM didn't do anything worse than Coca-Cola, BMW, Volkswagon, DuPont, JP Morgan, and lots of other companies. Which is to say, they did business with the Nazis, but that wasn't unusual, because the only side corporations are ever on is that of making more money for their shareholders. Business has n...
[13:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:45] <exec> 08└─K.G.B I.C.E kgb ice kgb ice ice kgb ice kgb Yup, sounding less and less like a coincidence!
[13:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:48] <exec> 08└─"ICE's decision to accelerate IT modernization using Azure Government will help them innovate faster while reducing the burden of legacy IT. The agency is currently implementing transformative technologies for homeland security and public safety, and we're proud to support this work with our mission...
[13:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:50] <exec> 08└─As long as there is an official government agency wanting to buy (insert anything here) there will be companies willing to sell. The nerd rage from those that want to eliminate borders (while wondering why nobody can make a living wage) isn't going to change that. Amazon is currently getting pickete...
[13:19:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:52] <exec> 08└─I would hope so. I use them all of the time
[13:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:54] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile all that 'watching' and 'noticing' has no effect on market share and revenues. SNAFU!
[13:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:56] <exec> 08└─Deporting illegal immigrants is now comparable to gassing 6 million Jews? Usually when an adult is detained by law enforcement, they are separated from their children.
[13:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:59] <exec> 08└─The internet never forgets.
[13:20:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:01] <exec> 08└─We do need to eliminate borders! People have a right to go and live where they want. Discrimination based of place of birth is just as bad as that based on skin color, gender, etc. You just have to make it flow both ways. They come here for the money, we go there to civilize the savages. Start with...
[13:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:03] <exec> 08└─Ice's job is to enforce the border Why is this a problem? Theres something like 25 million illegals in this country. And if news reports are to be believed, another 2000 kids (and their families) have showed up in the last 6 weeks alone. We are destined to become another central american country if...
[13:20:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 3, Offtopic) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, I am using linux exclusively right now... Back in the 90's I was even using OS/2. I have referred to Microsoft as, Micro$oft, "Micro & soft", and just plain M$ among other things. HOWEVER, as much as I hate Microsoft, holding them to blame over the recent ICE policies is pointless. They are a b...
[13:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:08] <exec> 08└─The outrage industry must be a lucrative one. They certainly have enough employees.
[13:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:10] <exec> 08└─I see. This is so we can quantify innocence measured in 'degrees of separation'? Sorry, man, the foot soldiers doing the general's dirty work are the evil ones.
[13:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:12] <exec> 08└─When they install showers and new industrial bread oven in ex-Walmart stores, there is nothing to worry about. The dog kennels for kids really look fun to play in. Dodge ball anyone?
[13:20:14] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 958 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:15] <exec> 08└─First, ICE needs to be abolished. It is a big government agency designed to be abused, and it's completely out of control. There is absolutely no need for ICE and there was no need for ICE when it was created in 2003 during the panic after 9/11. Second, when this shit with the kiddie internment camp...
[13:20:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:17] <exec> 08└─They aren't doing this. So no I'm not worried. .
[13:20:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:19] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't the foot soldiers in this case be the actual ICE agents? Or would the foot soldiers be the republican congress critters that are too afraid to step up to the shitstorm known as Trump?
[13:20:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:21] <exec> 08└─ICE exists to enforce immigration lawIllegal immigration is a crime'undesirables' have been prohibited entry since the Page Act of 1875ICE are holding aliens until they can be lawfully deported while the Nazi's prevented Jews from leavingYou're a moron!
[13:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:23] <exec> 08└─I repaired your error : The outrage industry must be a lucrative one. They certainly have enough CUSTOMERS.
[13:20:25] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 233 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:26] <exec> 08└─You can enforce the borders without doing this. Don't be a fucking numpty. Wanna get serious about cracking down on illegals? Fine the ever-loving FUCK out of any company that employs them. You'll see that shit go down reeeeal quick.
[13:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:28] <exec> 08└─What the OP wrote is NOT flamebait. It is a statement which contains facts and it is presented in a very rational manner. That it was modded as flamebait shows just what a high percentage of stupid people spend time on Soylent. If any of you fools ever become adults, you will rightly be deeply embar...
[13:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:30] <exec> 08└─The company has since restored the press release's original language, and called its removal a "mistake."
[13:20:32] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:32] <exec> 08└─Suddenly conservatives are totally fine with the government kidnapping people's children.
[13:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:35] <exec> 08└─It's hard to understand because the law was written with the intent to sabotage its own enforcement by making the consequences of enforcement a political landmine. That way some congresscritters can look "tough on immigration" while others show their "humanitarian" cred all while preventing any mean...
[13:20:36] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 118 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:37] <exec> 08└─The nerd rage from those that want to eliminate borders Frojack can only win fights against men made out of straw. SAD
[13:20:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:39] <exec> 08└─You can enforce the borders without doing this.
[13:20:40] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 131 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:41] <exec> 08└─Ice's job is to enforce the border You do realize that it's possible to deport people without stealing their children first, right?
[13:20:43] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:43] <exec> 08└─Illegal immigration is a crime Kidnapping is also a crime. How about we deport these criminals without becoming criminals ourselves in the process?
[13:20:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:46] <exec> 08└─Please specify HOW. 1: put entire family in a bus. 2: drive bus to Mexico.
[13:20:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 255 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:48] <exec> 08└─You are repeating a LIE. The law absolutely does not require separating children from their families. This is entirely the result of a Jeff Sessions policy decision: Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry [justice.gov]
[13:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:50] <exec> 08└─Sane people are fine with laws against criminals being enforced. If a parent endangers their child, the child is taken into protective custody. Take a child into a country illegally, the child will be taken into custody when the parents are arrested. Law should be updated to charge reckless parents...
[13:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:53] <exec> 08└─They don't get a right to due process in your world?
[13:20:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:55] <exec> 08└─Nobody is being kidnapped by law enforcement, try ms13 if you want evidence of that.
[13:20:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 859 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:57] <exec> 08└─Gassing the Jews did not come out of the blue. It was preceded by a series of deliberate, planned, measurered steps that were 100% clear in retrospect. You're seeing the exact same pattern in the USA, and it has gone far beyond the "Then they came for the Trade Unionists..." part. Thing is, you're c...
[13:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:59] <exec> 08└─Tell that to your congressmen. The executive branch can only execute the laws written by the legislative branch. So, if you have a problem with the law being enforced as written, then get it changed. I'm with you on increased penalties for employment of illegal immigrants and I think we could modif...
[13:21:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:01] <exec> 08└─How on earth do they think no one is watching or that no one will notice? The internet never forgets.
[13:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:03] <exec> 08└─As long as the children are put into the fluffy cloud instead of cages, I'm down wit dat, mon.
[13:21:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:06] <exec> 08└─What part is a lie? The law requires separation of children from their families if the adult parents/guardians are being detained for prosecution and there are no family members legally in the country that are willing to accept custody. If that isn't the case, then ICE is illegally kidnapping people...
[13:21:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:08] <exec> 08└─Actually no its not.. the 'process' imposed by current legislation is why this whole round-about approach is happening. If it was as simple as 'apprehend and instantly deport', they would be doing it already..
[13:21:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:10] <exec> 08└─It is certainly possible, but it requires changing the law to allow that to happen.
[13:21:12] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1466 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:12] <exec> 08└─What part is a lie? The law requires separation of children from their families if the adult parents/guardians are being detained for prosecution and there are no family members legally in the country that are willing to accept custody. That is simply FALSE. Why the hell do you think they only STAR...
[13:21:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:15] <exec> 08└─Then the kids get locked up with the parents. I am very liberal in many areas, but no you don't just let them go free inside the country. So here are the options: Immediate repatriation, no due process. Family stays locked up together until everyone involved is cleared to leave Kids get sent to sepe...
[13:21:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:17] <exec> 08└─It is certainly possible, but it requires changing the law to allow that to happen. Show me the law liar.
[13:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:19] <exec> 08└─You do realize that it's possible to deport people without stealing their children first, right?
[13:21:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:21] <exec> 08└─That because for a lot of people, if they want to fly they either grow wings or fly United.
[13:21:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:23] <exec> 08└─All right stop Immigration edition ICE is back with a brand new invention Beaner grabs hold of a shower curtain Wall mart knows that this business is certain Will it ever stop? Yo, I don't know Build the wall and never go To the border, they'll not be here in the first place Lefty up the stake but c...
[13:21:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:26] <exec> 08└─https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/training/xus/crcl/asylumseekers/crcl_asylum/pdfs/Immigration%20and%20Nationality%20Act%20101(a)(42).pdf [dhs.gov] Immediate deportation is not possible if the illegal immigrant utters one word: Refugee. Also helps their case if the second word is Lawyer. (42) The...
[13:21:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:28] <exec> 08└─So build the wall! [independent.co.uk]
[13:21:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:30] <exec> 08└─Or, instead of flying, they get to where they're going via train, bus, or car. Or they get to an airport that another airline flies out of via train, bus, or car. It's not like flying is the only way to get from point A to point B. Yes, doing that might cost time and/or otherwise be a pain in the tu...
[13:21:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:32] <exec> 08└─The only policy change that occurred in May 2018 is that ICE was directed to prosecute all illegal immigration cases.
[13:21:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:35] <exec> 08└─Some people don't forget. I haven't, but I also haven't had any opportunity whatsoever to use their services. I live in the Southwest United States, and unsurprisingly, Southwest Airlines is about the only airline for me. Spirit can come in cheaper, but once you add bag costs and some water to drink...
[13:21:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:37] <exec> 08└─ice ice kgb vanilla ice ice kgb word to your mother
[13:21:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:39] <exec> 08└─Personally, I boycott United. But I have done so for a long time because of their shitty service.
[13:21:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:41] <exec> 08└─Stream video, and broadcast TV over the border. Show gruesome torture. Nobody else will make the trip. Fewer people would get hurt, because almost nobody would be crazy enough to try. Any style will do: ancient, medieval, high-tech... We can sandpaper them to death. We can use the breaking wheel. We...
[13:21:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:44] <exec> 08└─We should be at least as free as caribou to go where the food is.
[13:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:46] <exec> 08└─U.S. Code § 1325. It is illegal to cross the border anywhere but at a port of entry. The adults who cross illegally are detained immediately and criminally charged, making the minors with them legally "unaccompanied minors" and the law is followed for their processing separately from the parents. T...
[13:21:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:48] <exec> 08└─So, honest question: If the 25 million people you mentioned had gone through the same sort of process as, say, your ancestors might have on Ellis Island, would you still have a problem with them? That process would look something like: 1. Check that your country of origin doesn't think you're someon...
[13:21:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:50] <exec> 08└─We can sandpaper them to death. We can use the breaking wheel. We can crucify them. We can stone them. We can submerge them in acid. We can catapult them. We can fire them from cannons. We can draw and quarter them. We can starve them. We can smoke them. We can boil them.
[13:21:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:52] <exec> 08└─I can't speak for the OP, but I think we should definitely have a streamlined immigration process along those lines, but there's a strong argument that we should be a bit more selective than we were in the early 20th century. Since then we have implemented some social welfare programs and grown in p...
[13:21:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:55] <exec> 08└─"The only policy change that occurred in May 2018 is that ICE was directed to prosecute all illegal immigration cases." I haven't researched this as thoroughly as one might and it's possible I'm wrong, but as far as I know, what you're saying here is exactly the truth of the matter. The change was t...
[13:21:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:57] <exec> 08└─What do you call that thing? You know, where you mix a nice chunky soup up of monopolies, regulatory capture, tissue-thin barrier between corporate and government job-hopping. What's it called? You know, when corporations and government just kind of, fade into each other with no clear boundary?
[13:21:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:21:59] <exec> 08└─The EU!
[13:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03pipedwho [2032] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:01] <exec> 08└─So true, this pre-judgement 'zero tolerance' policy is equivalent to having a policy jail all cases of assault pre-trial, even where there is a clear claim of self-defence. If someone attacks you, there is legal recourse since your act of self-defence was forced on you. The same is true for an actua...
[13:22:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:03] <exec> 08└─I know, right? CNN - The long, strong arm of the NSA - July 27, 1998 http://edition.cnn.com [cnn.com]
[13:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:06] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I think there's absolutely room for debate about whether a zero-tolerance policy makes sense. There's also a need to debate whether we should allow for families to be detained together when they cross the border illegally and how we can do that while still protecting minors from child smuggl...
[13:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aegis [6714] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:08] <exec> 08└─LOL, "Refugee" is a term of art for a LEGAL immigrant! [uscis.gov] Refugee status is a form of protection that may be granted to people who meet the definition of refugee and who are of special humanitarian concern to the United States.
[13:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:10] <exec> 08└─It's the emotional hot button issue going into the midterms. The Democrats don't want people to think rationally; "think of the children" is pure emotional manipulation. The popular opinion is that some democrats need to stop thinking of children [youtu.be]
[13:22:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:12] <exec> 08└─Funny, but an equally funny response would be 'The USA!'
[13:22:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:14] <exec> 08└─Right and the minute someone utters the word "refugee" they cannot be instantly deported, they must be detained until they've been processed.
[13:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:17] <exec> 08└─Gassing the Jews did not come out of the blue. It was preceded by a series of deliberate, planned, measurered steps that were 100% clear in retrospect. You're seeing the exact same pattern in the USA, and it has gone far beyond the "Then they came for the Trade Unionists..." part.
[13:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:19] <exec> 08└─^ good flow
[13:22:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:21] <exec> 08└─The trump administration are imprisoning, among other people, ASYLUM SEEKERS andthe part where they're separating the children of asylum seekers from their parents is unprecedented in law and custom, a clear violation of human rights, and a giant 'fuck you too' to several international treaties the...
[13:22:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:23] <exec> 08└─Oh the humanity! They force those poor ICE agents to do some actual police work? Say it ain't so!!! Da fuck is wrong with you?
[13:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:26] <exec> 08└─Guess it is time for the US to follow Spain's lead. Show the world we're not a country of cowards. Just in case any of you rejects miss the point, kick out the government and get a special election going.
[13:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:28] <exec> 08└─uneducated white men
[13:22:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:30] <exec> 08└─Let me tell you, we did a couple of examples. Which the Fake News MSM ignored. Claudia Patricia Gómez González and Roxana Hernandez. RIP!!!! And you'll be seeing more and more examples, believe me. Until our Border is safe and our Immigration Law is fixed. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full fundi...
[13:22:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:32] <exec> 08└─The Constitution does not allow for this process as far as I know. We would need to elect enough state-level politicians for the states to call an Article V convention.
[13:22:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:34] <exec> 08└─At least you are stupid enough to say what is the obvious subtext to carrying this fucking stupid article. So I will break my normal policy of ignoring ACs and use your post. The American People get to decide whether we want be a bordersless shithole and they decided. The election of 2016 was very c...
[13:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:37] <exec> 08└─They said I couldn't do tariffs. But that I can do treaties (w/Senate) & Executive Orders. And we needed tariffs very badly. So I'm putting tariffs in Executive Orders. And it's working, nobody told me "no." WIN!!!!
[13:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:39] <exec> 08└─But in that case, the children aren't typically also incarcerated or institutionalized. If you want to deport them, then drop them off together on the other side of whatever border they crossed.
[13:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:41] <exec> 08└─Da fuck is wrong with you?
[13:22:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:43] <exec> 08└─"My personal take is that we shouldn't tolerate any illegal crossings" And that still sounds like the zero tolerance nonsense coming right back out. There are lots of technically illegal acts that are not actually unlawful. This is the space that is under attack, the space they want to erase from ou...
[13:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:46] <exec> 08└─Still has yet to go after the trade unionists and Communists too.
[13:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:48] <exec> 08└─Don't blame congress for anything. They are doing what they are told. Blame the people that keep reelecting them instead taking the initiative to replace them. The voters are the foot soldiers, just as much to blame for everything we suffer as anybody else you can conjure up.
[13:22:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:50] <exec> 08└─Another example of why majority rule sucks. The law is as ass, capricious and fickle. Borders exist to serve the slave trade. They are prison walls and must be torn down. Some rights are truly inherent. The freedom of movement is one of those that shouldn't subject to whims of the moron majority. Bu...
[13:22:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:52] <exec> 08└─Actually we have almost always separated children from accompanying adults, because we have no documentation or way to determine if that's a loving father-daughter couple or a pimp with an underage sex slave. So I guess you're for child sex trafficking then? Far from unprecedented, we've had this as...
[13:22:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:54] <exec> 08└─Please specify HOW. If you bothered to read the rest of the post, you would have your answer. Most illegals are trucked in by big agriculture and textile industries.
[13:22:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:57] <exec> 08└─Does that even MEAN anything?
[13:22:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:22:59] <exec> 08└─Fascism, if you're Mussolini. Isn't he the one who said (translated) "Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is a merger of the powers of the corporation and the state?"
[13:23:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:01] <exec> 08└─Not seeing the language your citing: https://www.law.cornell.edu [cornell.edu]
[13:23:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:03] <exec> 08└─I generally agree that zero tolerance policies are garbage, but illegal immigration is a special case. Most infractions are transitory in nature. An offense is committed and then people go back to normal legal activity. Illegal immigration, however is a continuous status. They don't have legal stand...
[13:23:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:06] <exec> 08└─Amazon is currently getting picketed in Seattle over selling their Facial Recognition system to Police. Stonewalling, as you would expect.
[13:23:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:08] <exec> 08└─This is simply not the case, not what we're talking about, at all. This is about policy concerning asylum seekers. They flee here and apply for asylum, there is a review process that takes some time, and eventually they either are approved for asylum, or it's denied and they're deported. None of tha...
[13:23:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03edinlinux [4637] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:10] <exec> 08└─I am the OP, sure I will answer.. If they went through the process, then yes..fine. however, in that case, it is unlikely all 25 million would have gotten in. Why, because US immigration policy favors people from many countries (not just from Mexico). It also favors people with educations, and who c...
[13:23:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:12] <exec> 08└─I love how people are invoking Godwin's law in response to random crap at the same time Holocaust: Yemen Edition is currently in the works.
[13:23:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:14] <exec> 08└─My first reaction was that this article was about Microsoft ICE [microsoft.com] (Image Composite Editor).
[13:23:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:17] <exec> 08└─Sure, the internet never forgets. But most people aren't on the internet - they're on Facebook, Twitter and WhatsApp.
[13:23:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:19] <exec> 08└─because we have no documentation or way to determine if that's a loving father-daughter couple or a pimp with an underage sex slave
[13:23:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:21] <exec> 08└─And the moderates to radicalize them, then used the 'plight of the persecuted Jews' to get the country they had been carefully buying up land and committing acts of terrorism in for years in their attempts to create a Zionist state. The creation of Israel makes Machiavelli and Sun Tzu proud.
[13:23:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:29] <exec> 08└─I have been using MIUI for last 5 years and I think it is better than all the other flavors.
[13:23:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:31] <exec> 08└─N/T
[13:23:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:33] <exec> 08└─What a disgrace. Try 5-8 years. Much closer to the real life expectancy of the hardware.
[13:23:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:35] <exec> 08└─It certainly isn't AOSP, which is total perfunctory trash.
[13:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:38] <exec> 08└─Xiaomi's MIUI? In my experience it's quite bloated and buggy (not fatally but even 3GB RAM is not enough in many cases). That said the second space feature is interesting.
[13:23:39] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 736 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:40] <exec> 08└─Not AOSP. But rather unmodified Android. Only the bare stock applications that make the device useful. Dialer, Browser, Contacts, Camera, etc. Basically exactly what comes on the Pixel, and formerly Nexus phones from Google. And . . . the Play Store. NO BLOATWARE. No special craptacular offers. No f...
[13:23:41] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 115 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:42] <exec> 08└─The purpose of a non-replaceable battery is to limit that 5-8 year hardware life to the 2 year life of the battery.
[13:23:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:44] <exec> 08└─Well, MIUI is just a launcher so it's still stock where it counts.
[13:23:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:47] <exec> 08└─Which has only managed to make me use my phone less and be more power conscious! Feature not a bug?
[13:23:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:49] <exec> 08└─All Android phones should run Replicant. There shouldn't be any proprietary software on my phone.
[13:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:51] <exec> 08└─Feel free to setup all the layers of the ecosystem and open-source it for the rest of us.
[13:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:53] <exec> 08└─"The rest of us" is too stupid to set up anything that doesn't come from playstore and too cheap to pay for it anyways.
[13:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:55] <exec> 08└─You are talking about exceptions here, most androids have replaceable batteries.
[13:23:57] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:23:58] <exec> 08└─most androids have replaceable batteries.
[13:23:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:00] <exec> 08└─Oh, forgot to mention... Look at the release dates on those High scoring repair-ability devices, compared to the very low scoring ones. Old phones repairable. New phones not.
[13:24:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:02] <exec> 08└─Wrong. The Nexus 4 shipped without the default browser and mail app. The Pixel devices went even further then that: 1. Mail -> Gmail 2. Browser -> Chrome 2. Dialer -> Pixel Dialer 4. Camera -> Google Camera 5. Launcher - Now / Pixel launcher Oh, and there was a shit ton of bloatware in the Nexus wit...
[13:24:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:04] <exec> 08└─Bugger. I accidently* purchased a second hand Google Nexus 6P which has updated itself to v8.1, which is nice. It is a pretty fast phone and actually works really well, but I am going to have to install a new battery. I have checked it against your ifixit link, and it scores: . 2 Nexus 6P 201...
[13:24:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:06] <exec> 08└─Maybe the site has run low on funding? Or buying one iPhone X means you can't buy 5 other phones to open up ;). Compare Mi A1 (not rated/listed, released Sep 2017): https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] With the Redmi Note 3 (rated as 8 ): https://www.youtube.com
[13:24:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:09] <exec> 08└─Looks tricky, good luck: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[13:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:11] <exec> 08└─See comments on videos too: What none of the videos I watched mention: on the outer edge of the screen is a thin rubber band - you need to pry on the OUTSIDE of that band to separate the shell from the phone's screen/innards. Otherwise CRACK your glass will go - as seen first hand :) :/
[13:24:21] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1961 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:21] <exec> 08└─http://epistle.us/inspiration/godwillsaveme.html [epistle.us] God Will Save Me A terrible storm came into a town and local officials sent out an emergency warning that the riverbanks would soon overflow and flood the nearby homes. They ordered everyone in the town to evacuate immediately. A faithful...
[13:24:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:24] <exec> 08└─It was a glorious day for religitard rights.
[13:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:26] <exec> 08└─.....People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Huh....who's right?
[13:24:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:28] <exec> 08└─Yup.... (in other words, use your head not the Good Book)
[13:24:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:30] <exec> 08└─Yup.... (in other words, use your head not the Good Book)
[13:24:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 554 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:32] <exec> 08└─Non-fundie: Oh no, health checks show my unborn child is going to be stillborn, fatally deformed or severely disabled, maybe I should have a termination. Guess what doesn't show on the death statistics? Fundie: Health checks? Pah, baby's gonna come anyway and God will decide if it lives or dies....
[13:24:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:35] <exec> 08└─You're a moron.
[13:24:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:37] <exec> 08└─No, you're projecting. Read the post again, give it some thought, and try again with less partisan trolling.
[13:24:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:39] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=18/06/19/026219 [soylentnews.org] The previous article was data collected from obituaries instead of mortality data, and published by psychologists not epidemiologists. This article was published by sociologists in the "Journal for the Scientific Study of Relig...
[13:24:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:41] <exec> 08└─Having read the thing extensively, including some of the New Testament in Koine, I have to say I wasn't particularly impressed. Buddhism has better ethics, Jesus comes off as a complete lunatic with the same kind of cultish assholery as the Heaven's Gate crowd, and all those promises about the end o...
[13:24:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:43] <exec> 08└─Easily solved: The infants are not yet religious. So when they die, they actually reinforce that statistics. ;-)
[13:24:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, I always use my copy of the Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, then use my head to ignore most of the bad advice and pray Marvin will recover from his depression and save me in the nick of time.
[13:24:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:48] <exec> 08└─Maybe - both? It's possible that the live longer article is right, AND this article is right. Maybe we need to discriminate between the various religions to get at the truth.
[13:24:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:50] <exec> 08└─Why do you think religion cannot be scientifically studied? It is a phenomenon occurring in the real world, therefore it can be studied. Note that studying religion is not the same as theology. A religion scientists may say: "This is the percentage of self-declared Christians who attend church on Su...
[13:24:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1464 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:52] <exec> 08└─I guess i look at it as: I grew up Presbyterian (sort of.... went to a Presbyterian church, anyways). What i gleaned from all that was "be a good person... treat others how you'd want to be treated". I don't steal, cheat on my wife, etc etc because that is who i want to be (not because i have the fe...
[13:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:54] <exec> 08└─Speaking of the Good Book, this particular Bible verse seems particularly relevant to these fools: Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his ange...
[13:24:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:57] <exec> 08└─Huh....who's right?
[13:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:24:59] <exec> 08└─I wonder if these no-medicine sects are exclusive enough that there is any noticeable evolutionary effect? Probably not yet, as they have only been around a short while AFAIK, and they probably wouldn't consent to having DNA taken or studied, but it would be interesting to see how populations practi...
[13:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:01] <exec> 08└─In addition to the exclusion of abortion which skews the numbers (not only in terms of abortion-as-birth-control, but abortion of a baby likely to die anyway), the direction of causality is being assumed without evidence. Perhaps people who suffer more death for whatever reason need to actually beli...
[13:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:03] <exec> 08└─"If God lets you live in a time and place where medical science is so advanced, is it not equivalent to casting yourself down from a pinnacle of the temple to refuse these blessings of advanced medical science when you are seriously ill?" It *might* be. You would really have to examine a specific ca...
[13:25:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:05] <exec> 08└─Evolution happening at a drastically higher scale in Fundamental Christian Areas... OK I admit even that is a bit more ironic.
[13:25:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:08] <exec> 08└─It wasn't 'clearly rushed through' the acceptance process at all. One of our aims is to vary the stories that we publish in any particular timeframe. There are were very few stories that I felt were good enough to be published in the submissions queue when I logged on this morning, and we prefer not...
[13:25:09] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:10] <exec> 08└─Too much organized religion is just a scam, a money grab and/or a power grab.
[13:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:12] <exec> 08└─we prefer not to lower our standards simply because they are the only stories left in the queue
[13:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:14] <exec> 08└─Non-fundie: Oh no, health checks show my unborn child is going to be stillborn, fatally deformed or severely disabled, maybe I should have a termination. Guess what doesn't show on the death statistics? Fundie: Health checks? Pah, baby's gonna come anyway and God will decide if it lives or dies. Gue...
[13:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:17] <exec> 08└─Sorry...begs the question that the Fundies have fewer abortions...
[13:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:19] <exec> 08└─You're treating this like boring *old* science. This is exciting *new* science. You don't have to worry about pesky things like bias, falsifiability, or correlation and causation. Just read three paragraphs in a magazine article at the dentist and refuse to question any of it. Now you're doing scien...
[13:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:21] <exec> 08└─This article talks specifically about Christian fundamentalists. It notes that the higher infant mortality rates aren't observed in other Christian denominations. That other article was about much more general religious affiliations, including but not limited to Christian fundamentalism.
[13:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:23] <exec> 08└─A fair number of the anti-vax nutjobs are fundamentalist Christians. And guess what? If you don't vaccinate your kids, they can die of the diseases you didn't vaccinate them against. All because you were scared of modern science with its scary-sounding hard-to-pronounce words based on Latin and Gree...
[13:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:25] <exec> 08└─No, that is why we have a discussion, so that people can put their views and counter-views forward. Simple suppressing the stories means that we have no discussion. Because you are an AC I cannot tell which comments in the discussion are yours, but I do not see any that raise the issue of correlatio...
[13:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:28] <exec> 08└─all those promises about the end of the world happening while some people almost 2,000 years ago were still alive, uh, kinda didn't happen.
[13:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:30] <exec> 08└─Ah here's your comment - I must refresh my page more often. But it is hardly a major contribution to the discussion - you have simply made claims about 'pesky things'. How would you counter the bias (which bias?) if it was your study? What exactly do you mean by falsifiability - what is being falsif...
[13:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:32] <exec> 08└─Because you are an AC...Are you afraid that someone might not agree with your views?
[13:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:34] <exec> 08└─Falsifiability applies to other "science" posts here. This one is pure correlation, causation, as the first post in the thread which was not me also pointed out. Try running a Ctrl-F on the word "abortion", you'll find more posts than just mine pointing out how worthless this study is.
[13:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:36] <exec> 08└─The two aren't mutually exclusive even if it's the same religion.
[13:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:39] <exec> 08└─Jesus hates babies, but he loves old people.
[13:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:41] <exec> 08└─This article was published by sociologists in the "Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion" which sounds like almost pure bullshit.
[13:25:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:43] <exec> 08└─It is honestly baffling how often I see this idea around here and Slashdot (which this site used to be much better than, but seems to sink closer to that level daily), that the only reason a person might post on the internet without making up a little identity to attach all their thoughts to is fear...
[13:25:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:45] <exec> 08└─And in further news the study shows the main cause for the infant morality rates in Christian fundamentalists areas were primarily due to rectal/colon failure due to excess penile insertion.
[13:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:47] <exec> 08└─Now, what would be really interesting is to add the abortion stats from the relevant areas into these numbers and look again.
[13:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:50] <exec> 08└─It's been stated a dozen times. If I search the comments of this page for the word "abortion", I get 18 results. If I search the article you posted, I get zero. We're having a conversation about infant mortality and religious fundamentalism. Is the problem clear yet?
[13:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:52] <exec> 08└─So, the poster asked for "abortion stats from the relevant areas" in regard to Christian fundamentalists, and you post about Eastern Africa?
[13:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:54] <exec> 08└─Maybe some of us just see going around signing your "name" on everything you type into a keyboard as narcissism?
[13:25:55] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:56] <exec> 08└─Fuck the bible. The entire fucking bullshit filled thing. And flush it down the toilet where it belongs.
[13:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:58] <exec> 08└─It's frustrating to try to hold a conversation with an AC and then find out that two or three of them have been in the thread and never bothered to tell you till later.
[13:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:01] <exec> 08└─So the only problem is abortion. I said that in far fewer words that you did. If I search the article you posted, I get zero.
[13:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:03] <exec> 08└─I'm discounting the study because it is impossible to make any sort of conclusion out of it that isn't an assumption of causality. The one that has been chosen, "Christian fundamentalists have higher infant mortality rates" is only one of several dozen equally valid conclusions they could have reach...
[13:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:05] <exec> 08└─The big disadvantage of posting anon is inability to edit posts, so unfortunately I'll have to assume everyone can just pretend the bullet points are in there.
[13:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:07] <exec> 08└─If you are going to discriminate, I suggest UK vs USA might be a useful basis to start. It would certainly be worth mentioning in relation to the studies. Religion in the UK and USA are substantially different. It is also worth pointing out that Jesus was Jewish - as was the entire old testament (So...
[13:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:10] <exec> 08└─Matthew 10:23 for a start, and there are parallel passages in Luke and Mark. And I didn't even need to fuckin' look that one up. Don't go toe-to-toe with me on the Bible, Tango; you will not win.
[13:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:12] <exec> 08└─Islamic fundamentalists have higher infant mortality rates
[13:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:14] <exec> 08└─People living in the USA of other religions appear to have been considered. If you are talking about outside the USA, then your comment is irrelevant - they are re not part of the discussion.
[13:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:16] <exec> 08└─You have read the article, or even the summary, haven't you?
[13:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:18] <exec> 08└─If you are going to discriminate, I suggest you go after the Protestants, of every flavor. The Jews and the Catholics are cool...
[13:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:21] <exec> 08└─Additionally, there is no Islamic fundamentalist movement in the United States to be reflected in these statistics and have anything to compare to. "Christian fundamentalists" are the only fundamentalists we have in any sort of significant number, so they're essentially being compared to non-fundame...
[13:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:23] <exec> 08└─worse at surviving*
[13:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:25] <exec> 08└─When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
[13:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:27] <exec> 08└─Their fecundity would compensate for excess mortality. Assuming they hang around for long enough and are isolated enough, they would probably end up physically healthier and mentally inferior to the general population. Simple evolution in that direction would be enhanced by the sickest/smartest givi...
[13:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:30] <exec> 08└─The article and study abstract mention "fundamentalist christians" as well as protestants and catholics
[13:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:32] <exec> 08└─Dude, the study is grouped by counties. That means it literally only covers three religions. "Fundamentalist Christianity", Protestantism and Catholicism. There is a non-zero number of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and Atheists in this country, but this study will never have anything to say about them beca...
[13:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:34] <exec> 08└─Expand the dataset to somewhere with a high population of first generation immigrants from a fundamentalist Islamic country like Europe and the picture changes.
[13:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:36] <exec> 08└─To further drive this point home, because I know you will willfully misinterpret it: Suffolk County, Massachusetts (Boston) is a Catholic county. Fairfax County, Virginia is a Protestant county. Sullivan County, Tennesee is a Fundamentalist Christian county. If you think the life expectancies in the...
[13:26:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:38] <exec> 08└─it doesn't matter to me which of the invisible beings that you want to worship you choose. But, if you do make a choice, then the study finds that it can affect the life expectancy in ways that you wouldn't have imagined
[13:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 1385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:41] <exec> 08└─Oh come now. The Bible is an Iron Age history, with, sadly, a whole lot of religious propaganda baked in. However there are reasons for that. As a tool to aid religious leaders in maintaining and spreading the faith, it was a brilliant success. The problem is that today there are still millions of p...
[13:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:43] <exec> 08└─How about https://www.biblegateway.com [biblegateway.com] Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.
[13:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:45] <exec> 08└─.....People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Huh....who's right?
[13:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:47] <exec> 08└─Catholic religion is best religion. But yeah. Don't christian fundamentalists reject evidence & science-based medicine where it contradicts their faith? You can do that, but looks like you have to pay the price.
[13:26:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:49] <exec> 08└─The Kingdom of Heaven is KFC gravy! ;)
[13:26:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:52] <exec> 08└─Christian parents are culling the weak when they let their children die for lack of medical attention. Naturally this leads to the survivors being stronger than average, so they live longer. The two studies are perfectly consistent. thanks
[13:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:54] <exec> 08└─I thought I just got done debunking this a week or two ago?
[13:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeVilla [5354] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:56] <exec> 08└─Maybe religious folks just have more of a bathtub curve for their mean time time to failure?
[13:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:58] <exec> 08└─Many evangelicals feel relying on gov't "feeds the beast" in a general sense such that giving them tax money for medical welfare grows the gov't in general so that it allegedly takes over other areas of life. Therefore, they'll accept a degree of medical risk, including death, to prevent "The Govern...
[13:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:01] <exec> 08└─But if they really reject all modern medical science, that would mean that their fecundity is also at 18th century levels. Can you imagine what childbirth was like before modern obstetrics? Complications in childbirth were the single largest cause of female mortality before the science of obstetrics...
[13:27:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:03] <exec> 08└─Only the strong survive!
[13:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:05] <exec> 08└─Also consider "soon" in relation to the proposed cosmology. From the creation to the birth of the savior was 5,000 years, right? (It's been a /very/ long time since I cared to study the bible.) The birth of the savior is our calendar epoch, so we easily know how long it's been. 29% of the supposed l...
[13:27:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:07] <exec> 08└─You would interpret it as saying that because you want to protect your faith. That's cowardly. Let Jesus speak for himself, even if he's wrong.
[13:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:10] <exec> 08└─Bingo. And for bonus funsies, anyone who reads Koine knows the word for "generation" here means a literal generation, here and everywhere else it's used :D
[13:27:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:12] <exec> 08└─"From the creation to the birth of the savior was 5,000 years, right?" The short answer is "no." The Bible does not contain a chronology or timeline, and nowhere does it give the number you seek, nor any combination of numbers that can be reliably used to generate that number. Many biblical scholars...
[13:27:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 2001 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:14] <exec> 08└─"Matthew 10:23 for a start, and there are parallel passages in Luke and Mark. And I didn't even need to fuckin' look that one up." That would be more impressive if you'd come up with a better proof text. I'm not sure what translation you're thinking of, but in the KJV it looks reasonably good; "But...
[13:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:16] <exec> 08└─Eastern Africa seems to be quite Christian fundamentalists, no? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It seems easy for people to dismiss inconvenient reality, but it's still reality. Not having access to birth control and making talking about sex as...
[13:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:18] <exec> 08└─Damn, you might just have to judge each comment on the merits of its own argument. Frustrating indeed.
[13:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:21] <exec> 08└─If you think the life expectancies in these areas are different because of religion and not because of their economies, you are hopelessly naive about the world you live in.
[13:27:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:29] <exec> 08└─Meow Meow Dipshit is the script-kiddie of biohackers.
[13:27:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:32] <exec> 08└─Why was he granted an appeal if he plead guilty? Incompetent legal counsel? If the embedded chip worked, and the machine accepted it as a form of payment, then there was no crime in the first place.
[13:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:34] <exec> 08└─Is that seriously his name?
[13:27:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:36] <exec> 08└─He who represents himself has a fool for a client.
[13:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:38] <exec> 08└─In civilized countries you can change your name to whatever you want. I wouldn't like to be this guys' kid though. Somehow I don't think this name will lead to the right kind of popularity in school. Although, if I were a judge, I would allow the kid to change their name before the age of 18.
[13:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:40] <exec> 08└─Quote original story: The lawyer representing Mr Meow Meow argued...
[13:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:43] <exec> 08└─Changing names existed long before civilized countries, in fact long before countries at all. It was usually the refuge of scoundrels.
[13:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:45] <exec> 08└─Meow Meow Dipshit
[13:27:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:47] <exec> 08└─And this is why, as a species, we are doomed.
[13:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:49] <exec> 08└─The biohacker community appears to be flooded with people exhibiting Histrionic personality disorder. First we had the story of the dead carnival barker in the sensory thank and now this clown. Whenever I see someone pulling hand waving "look at me" stunts, I write them off as frauds. File this unde...
[13:27:51] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 219 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:52] <exec> 08└─Biohackers who shove contraband in through their sphincter muscles are routinely prosecuted when caught. This biohacker pushes a chip under his skin, and he gets a way with it? Whatever happened to equality and justice?
[13:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:54] <exec> 08└─I think he was implying that you probably represent yourself. It would explain a lot.
[13:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:56] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't like to be this guys' kid though.
[13:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farmer Tim [6490] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:58] <exec> 08└─Not only is that his name, he ran for a seat in the last federal election. I voted for him, partially because the Science Party’s platform [soylentnews.org] is slightly less batshit crazy* than the other parties, and partially because I wanted to hear “Mr Meow-Ludo Disco Gamma Meow Meow has the...
[13:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farmer Tim [6490] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:00] <exec> 08└─Ugh, SN ate my link...it’s https://www.scienceparty.org.au [scienceparty.org.au]
[13:28:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:03] <exec> 08└─In my defense, that was before he proved himself a complete idiot by implanting a tracking device (and I told him exactly that a couple of months ago).
[13:28:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:05] <exec> 08└─There is a selection bias. You are more likely to hear about the ones causing controversy or getting offed, because that's what sells newspapers... I mean baits clicks.
[13:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:07] <exec> 08└─Better to be a script kiddie and do something easy than attempt something out of your league and cause infection, paralysis, death, etc. In 20 years the chip implanting will really be script kiddie stuff. Unless it's a brain computer interface being implanted.
[13:28:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:09] <exec> 08└─I voted for the parry in the senate. Having candidates with PhDs in science is preferable to populist old fogeys like Hanson or Hinch. Particularly with regards climate science, the gutting of the CSIRO and plots to privatise the ABC and BOM.
[13:28:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03petecox [3228] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:12] <exec> 08└─The issue is whether tampering with a credit card shaped government dispensed transport ticket is valid if the customer can no longer produce said card intact. He's a harmless eccentric so they make an exception but what it boils down to is that the NSW government employs hundreds of hired goons to...
[13:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:14] <exec> 08└─Pure guesswork, here, but there was probably no denying that he did violate some terms of use, such as perhaps "you must hand over your ticket for inspection, when asked to by transport personnel", or something similar. So he pleaded guilty on the obvious in both trials. However, rather clearly, he...
[13:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farmer Tim [6490] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:16] <exec> 08└─To answer the first question, a smartphone (or Opal card, and I have two of those, both topped up with cash so they aren’t linked to me in any database) can be easily switched off or left somewhere should the need arise, an implant can’t. A wearable like a bracelet or ring has similar convenienc...
[13:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:18] <exec> 08└─Fair enough, it is not a very sophisticated hack. It seems like his future plans would allow the thing to be turned off/updated. He said he was planning to push the boundary even further, replacing his Opal chip with one that will hold all of his personal information, including credit cards and memb...
[13:28:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:21] <exec> 08└─Parry the Platypus? He's my nemesis!
[13:28:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:23] <exec> 08└─Hmm. Wonder if this judge will live long enough to be prosecuting people for NOT having their implanted transportation ID and credit chip.
[13:28:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:31] <exec> 08└─causing consumers to pay more than they should.
[13:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:33] <exec> 08└─There's no problem with that and so long as Apple aren't locking out competing application stores and repositories, no problem here either. Is there an FDroid for iOS?
[13:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:35] <exec> 08└─The Philanderer adminstration was pushing anti-trust proceedings against Microsoft. The Chimp administration had those proceedings dismissed. The Cocoa administration did some minor good for consumers (except for that stupid ass health care thing). The Orangutan administration is busy rolling back a...
[13:28:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:38] <exec> 08└─The Cocoa administration did some minor good for consumers (except for that stupid ass health care thing).
[13:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Adamsjas [4507] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:40] <exec> 08└─Sort of sad how slowly the wheels of justice turn isn't it.
[13:28:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:42] <exec> 08└─So in khallow's world, the CFPB is more frightening than the CIA and the military industrial complex, the latter being merely hypothetical, short-term threats to democracy. Very interesting. Congress is always to blame anyway, whether it's the CFPB or the AUMF. Congress is bought and paid for. Nobod...
[13:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06U.S. Supreme Court to Hear Apple App Store Antitrust Case - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:44] <exec> 08└─So in khallow's world, the CFPB is more frightening than the CIA and the military industrial complex
[13:28:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:58] <exec> 08└─In Australia if you don't speak they hang up.
[13:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:00] <exec> 08└─So the GP was correct, Android automatically turns on the GPS and makes GPS location available to 911 call centers. Another example of Apple late to the party, inventing the perfectly obvious, and calling it new. There is nothing new here. It's been the law of the land for decades, and Android does...
[13:29:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:02] <exec> 08└─We didn't have cell phones, of course. We didn't have 911. We didn't even have EMT's. At age three or four, I escaped my mother, and spent an entire afternoon, hidden in a meadow, playing with toads, snakes, snails. At age 6, I decided to go home with a friend, and rode his bus instead of my own. It...
[13:29:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:04] <exec> 08└─"He's at 4th and Bimmer.....5th and Bimmer....6th and Bimmer..." Headline news: man dies on bus after apping 911...." Yeah, our only lifelines were our friends: "You broke your leg? I'll run, get help." "Your head smashed open?....nice knowing you buddy." "That poisonous snake bit your penis? BYEEE!...
[13:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:06] <exec> 08└─ROFLMAO - that damned snake is famous, isn't it?
[13:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:08] <exec> 08└─LOL you still believe in the police system and first responders! How adorable. Got news. You bust your head open and you still will bleed out. Cops and EMTs are too busy responding to 911's that have the possibility of producing a conviction.
[13:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kalas [4247] (Score: 1) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:11] <exec> 08└─Well that's a relief to know, because I just assumed all modern GPS-capable phones would push out my location to the dispatcher when calling. I'm all for privacy but calling 911 is the one time I absolutely want the person I'm speaking with to know where I'm at, and share that info as needed.
[13:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iOS 12 to Automatically Share Exact Location With Emergency Responders - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:13] <exec> 08└─You live in the good ol' USA USA USA, don't you!? In Canada, you get a good response (usually, lol)
[13:29:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 130 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:27] <exec> 08└─Better to die sooner as a lonely free thinker than to live longer listening to fools trying to brainwash you with their mythology.
[13:29:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1696 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:42] <exec> 08└─Having a social support network of friends or family that care about you and that you care about is linked to living longer even without considering things like having people support you through cancer treatment. People with a safety network like that are more likely to take their medicines, eat hea...
[13:29:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:54] <exec> 08└─Fascinating. Link to a discussion about Pastafarianism on an ex-muslim board and get modded "flamebait". Presumably from a moderator that has no problem being openly critical of Christianity -- there'll be no redemption from the Flying Spaghetti Monster for such hypocritical moderators.
[13:29:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:55] <exec> 08└─More people would physically gather together to share their general hobbies and interests.
[13:29:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:57] <exec> 08└─Fearing death is foolish. It's going to happen no matter what you try to do about it. Give it a healthy respect but don't actually worry about it.
[13:29:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:29:59] <exec> 08└─Also, ask the polygamist Mormons about that too and they will argue they can are allowed to have more than 4 wives.
[13:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:02] <exec> 08└─Something is missing here. Otherwise, expanding it to the world would mean that people in Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan and other very religious places should live longer than people in Scandinavia and other mostly non-religious places.
[13:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:04] <exec> 08└─People with religious affiliations live forever.
[13:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:06] <exec> 08└─It's the dying slowly, painfully and tortuously bit that worries me. If death results in oblivion then there's nothing to fear. But given we still don't understand consciousness it's hard to say for sure what happens. It could be our consciousness continues detached - no memory or senses to "read" f...
[13:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:08] <exec> 08└─If Jobs is any example to go by comparing longevity to Gates. . .
[13:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:10] <exec> 08└─If they hadn't already normalised for regional differences, how would the result be meaningful?
[13:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:13] <exec> 08└─You're not allowed to marry wives who are sisters to each other so maybe it's also a matter of how many mother-in-laws you can handle... ;)
[13:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:15] <exec> 08└─> was calculated after taking into account the sex and marital status of those who died, two factors that have strong effects on lifespan. Might as well write article "Religious people are middle class". Gah. Social "Science"
[13:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but don't forget that you need to drink enough to shorten your kidney and liver's lifespans so that they pack out just at the same time as your heart and lungs, there's no point in dying with any healthy organs.
[13:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 997 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:19] <exec> 08└─I think brainwashing people to Buddhism or the more harmless forms of Christianity[1] is preferable to having them being brainwashed by whoever is paying for those ads/shows on TV. It's like humans getting cowpox first before being exposed to smallpox. Better to have them stuck in something fairly h...
[13:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:21] <exec> 08└─Also, social media is rendering traditional obituaries obsolete. If they can't even be arsed to get the freely available morality statistics from health departments, I can't be arsed to pay attention to this "study".
[13:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:24] <exec> 08└─There's the old British model of the private club, or perhaps the pub at the end of the street. People would congregate there far more than once a week. In the US we tend towards social clubs, Elks Moose, Lions (ooh my!) VFW, etc. There's sewing clubs, hackers clubs, and pickup basketball. While I f...
[13:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:26] <exec> 08└─I'll just say, as a former UU, and as someone related to a UU minister, you don't have to go every Sunday morning if you don't feel like it, and nobody will look down on you for doing that. Also, UUs vary a lot by congregation, so if there are multiple churches in your area you might do some shoppin...
[13:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:28] <exec> 08└─"not enough to sacrifice an hour every Sunday morning. " In the context of your post, that is kinda funny. You were looking for an "extended family", but weren't willing to sacrifice an hour a week? And, uhhh, how solid a community were you expecting in return for just an hour per week? In context,...
[13:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:30] <exec> 08└─*cough* Try the obverse of that coin. Religion is so pervasive because there aren't any other communities willing or able to fill the role. You mention a root problem? Maybe the root problem is, so very damned few people care about the people around them. Those who do care, and seek out like minded...
[13:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:32] <exec> 08└─So they managed to live for 4 more boring years, praying and meditating... and they're the winners?
[13:30:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:35] <exec> 08└─What's lower form? If suffering is really the problem, and the goal is the cessation of suffering, and the root of suffering is desire wouldn't humans suffer more than a virus? Viruses likely have far fewer desires than humans. If so wouldn't viruses be higher forms and closer to nirvana than humans...
[13:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:37] <exec> 08└─I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.
[13:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:39] <exec> 08└─The atheists in those places tend to die earlier than the religious folk in those places.
[13:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:41] <exec> 08└─I think you've hit the nail on the head. Religion has become a substituite for recreation in many people's eyes. As a result, people who are not religious are alienated and suicides and mass murders go up because of lack of social structure.
[13:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:43] <exec> 08└─Your post rates an "AMEN, BROTHER!" and an up mod.
[13:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:46] <exec> 08└─Over here at The Peoples Temple they give us Kool-Aid.
[13:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:48] <exec> 08└─I'm sure my answer to this is extremely typical, but I'm just too busy. I have four kids, two dogs, and an insomniac wife. So between soccer, rugby, football, dance, gymnastics, Girl Scouts, chorus, band, and the fact that my wife works some weekends and sleeps others... dragging everyone somewhere...
[13:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:50] <exec> 08└─Sigh You die right now: you have started Infinity now. I die 80 years from now, I don't start infinity for another 80 years. INFINITY does not even enter ANY equation for another 80 years for me. 80 + X = 80 AND X, not "forget you lived 80 years altogether, you've ALWAYS been infinite, it doesn't ma...
[13:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:52] <exec> 08└─I suspect it's mostly due to beng less likely to abuse alcohol given how harmful it is. I wonder if the study would show the same result if they controlled for alcohol and illegal drugs. A lot of people don't realise it, but ethanol (ethyl alcohol, also known as drinking alcohol) is a potent drug. I...
[13:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:54] <exec> 08└─The little quote at the bottom of the page says, "All most men really want in life is a wife, a house, two kids and a car, a cat, no maybe a dog. Ummm, scratch one of the kids and add a dog. Definitely a dog."
[13:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:57] <exec> 08└─I don't think religion is the main reason why "statistically conservative Americans are generally happier than liberals". Remember, there are non-religious conservatives (Anonymous Coward for example) and there are religious liberals (Pope Francis for example). How can you be happy if you are consta...
[13:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:59] <exec> 08└─It is unfortunate that there are so many bitter comments here against something that has been observed by many to increase lifespan and happiness. We could debate endlessly and not convince each other, no matter how much negativity is expressed. But I can say from personal experience and long observ...
[13:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:01] <exec> 08└─*effects I apologize for any other mistakes. I typed this on mobile.
[13:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:03] <exec> 08└─It's just that you don't understand infinity. The 80 years do matter for the (finite) life before death. They don't make a difference for the supposed infinite life after death.
[13:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03exaeta [6957] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:05] <exec> 08└─I've always taken the position that "Infinity" is a condition-set of equations or bounds rather than a "number". If you adopt the principle that nothing can be equal to infinity and only a member of the "infinite set" you can do very useful tranformations on infinite series that yield correct result...
[13:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:08] <exec> 08└─Well see, now you're agreeing with both her AND me: "The 80 years do matter for the (finite) life before death. " If you live for 80 years before dying THEN you enter the after life. If you die right now, you will enter the after life (and Infinity) RIGHT NOW. x=after life (infinity) 80, then x = 80...
[13:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:10] <exec> 08└─People's mind change all the time. The study doesn't count the people who said "god, please don't let me die. I believe in you! " and died anyway.
[13:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:12] <exec> 08└─Sigh You die right now: you have started Infinity now. I die 80 years from now, I don't start infinity for another 80 years.
[13:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:14] <exec> 08└─The cracker thing are for wimps - I know people that are into vore* :) Think about that the next time someone dressed in fancy robes tells you to munch down on a jewish carpenter ;) (* Vorarephilia)
[13:31:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:16] <exec> 08└─An interesting idea that simply doesn't hold up. If it were true I'd expect a lot more good coming out of church groups, but instead they are almost always cultish social groups. Just an extension of tribalism, with some of the most vile humans hiding amongst "god's sheep". *cough* maybe you're just...
[13:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:18] <exec> 08└─Real leftists don't feel guilt over their ancestor's misdeeds or gloat over their ancestor's accomplishments; they know that the past is a thing to be learned from so that we can avoid emulating it in the future. None of my ancestors are documented in history as owning slaves, but even if they were,...
[13:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:21] <exec> 08└─Nah, just someone who took the post at face value instead of investigating the link to find out it is a joke.
[13:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:23] <exec> 08└─While you have seemed to take a healthy perspective from your religious affiliation there are many who do not. Religion has spawned more wars and bigotry than anything else in human history. Religion is not the necessary ingredient here, the real trick comes from the people who try and make a better...
[13:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:25] <exec> 08└─I have traveled some over the years, met many, and I don't believe others would say that to you. Nor is it the official doctrine or teachings or in the manuals or culture. There are consequences for actions, justice AND mercy, and opportunity for all to make informed choices.
[13:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:28] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I was aware of those things, but I felt like we would attend so infrequently that we would miss most of the benefits. If you show up once every six weeks, even if everyone is welcoming you're not going to develop much of the same camaraderie you would get for being regulars. That said, the...
[13:31:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:30] <exec> 08└─Sadly, many who wanted to fight a war or do other bad things have used religion as an excuse, which didn't necessarily make it right. Some people doing wrong doesn't mean true principles are wrong. God is our Father and has a plan, and gives commandments for our happiness, but gives us agency to cho...
[13:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:32] <exec> 08└─That was definitely my first thought. I'm an atheist. I definitely do not want an obituary. I eat healthy, excersize, sleep enough... and I would not be included in this data set.
[13:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:34] <exec> 08└─Yeah. Bunch of moochers waiting on other people to die so they can get free replacement parts. Get a job.
[13:31:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:37] <exec> 08└─We get it - you hate Christians. You envy their community, their power, their self assurance, their inner peace. Don't like Christians? Don't associate with them. Meanwhile, despite all their faults, Christians tend to be community oriented. Christians seek, and give help within the community. Bette...
[13:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:39] <exec> 08└─It could be our consciousness continues detached - no memory or senses to "read" from or write to.
[13:31:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:41] <exec> 08└─Mormon wars? Missouri, or Utah?
[13:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:43] <exec> 08└─Sometimes self-defense makes sense, such as if others continually chase you and your loved ones out. Obviously there is more to the story than a few words. I recommend reading up on why people were willing to sacrifice so much -- lds.org and other sources have much documentation.
[13:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score: 1) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:45] <exec> 08└─I again recommend getting information from a variety of sources, then deciding which are most likely trustworthy.
[13:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:48] <exec> 08└─... get the freely available morality statistics from health departments
[13:31:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03crafoo [6639] 02 - 06Potential New Treatment for Drug Addiction Relapse Revealed - 230 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:56] <exec> 08└─Drug addict gets sober and remembers why they started taking drugs in the first place. Returning someone to their hopeless environment and not expecting them to try to escape the only way they feel like they can.. that's insanity.
[13:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Potential New Treatment for Drug Addiction Relapse Revealed - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:59] <exec> 08└─Returning someone to their hopeless environment and not expecting them to try to escape the only way they feel like they can.. that's insanity.
[13:32:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Potential New Treatment for Drug Addiction Relapse Revealed - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:01] <exec> 08└─The useful bits... The Bath team wanted to test the effect of using a blocker for a brain neurotransmitter called acetylcholine, which is involved in memory processes. They tested the effect of a blocker of a specific receptor for acetylcholine -- the alpha7 nicotinic receptor -- to see if this migh...
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[14:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:18] <exec> 08└─Avacado is a Mexican food and should stay the hell out of our fine country.
[14:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Revek [5022] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:20] <exec> 08└─Lets face it, if there was a person out there who was out front on the whole avocado toast thing it was geeky bill and co.
[14:13:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03isostatic [365] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 185 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:27] <exec> 08└─So Trump went to Singapore and managed to get permission from Kim to 1) Hang a picture of Kim on the whitehouse wall 2) Stop military exercises with South Korea He's a great negotiator.
[14:13:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 541 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:30] <exec> 08└─Saved money, huh? How nice. Did it move the Doomsday clock back? Do Republicans suddenly care about Balancing the Budget again? I read there's over $1 trillion in spending planned for nuclear weapons, and, astonishingly, that was before Trump. Trump of course wants to spend even more on nukes. Maybe...
[14:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:33] <exec> 08└─I can't say that I really care about this North Korea business, but if Trump actually cared about saving money, he wouldn't have signed off on a large increase in military spending when we already have a ridiculously bloated military
[14:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:35] <exec> 08└─what happened is that kim won. he gets to do whatever he wants inside his country (which was his goal), and the threat from outside the country has been reduced, plus he'll get more money from the outside. my hope (and it is just hope, since I have no facts to base this on) is that this was indeed e...
[14:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:38] <exec> 08└─He can restart the unnecessary war exercises easily. If all of the talk, ego stroking, and concessions don't result in the goal of halting/reversing NK's nuclear program, he can act accordingly.
[14:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 1744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:40] <exec> 08└─And in the meantime coordination between forces is disrupted - you only get to do that for so long (and due to rotation of troops and units the time is not long at all). Denuclearization will take time, and my bet is that degradation of coordination will set in before it is complete. When/if exercis...
[14:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Isolate Protein Data From the Tiniest of Caches -- Single Human Cells - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:49] <exec> 08└─the politics of the national labs, however, is ferocious. Like all government funding, senators want the most for their backers , no matter how stupid an idea....
[14:14:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 1440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:26] <exec> 08└─Oh, no; Air Force brass hates it too. It doesn't fit their idea of a "sexy" airframe, and they didn't want to buy it in the first place. [dtic.mil] Close air support is a mission that the Air Force doesn't want to do right, and won't let the Army do for itself. On top of all that, since the Air Forc...
[14:14:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 141 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:48] <exec> 08└─The last nail in the coffin would be, formally and finally, to ban application fallback to the hopelessly insecure TLS 1.0 and 1.1 standards.
[14:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:14:58] <exec> 08└─Something like what SSH does would be safer - e.g. if a cert changes unexpectedly the user is warned
[14:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 1394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:00] <exec> 08└─You mean apart form the ones that say TLS, even TLS 1.2 (Logjam), TLS 1.0 (BEAST) etc. and yet we were actually TALKING specifically about TLS 1.0 and 1.1... And several of them mention the fix is to upgrade to TLS 1.2 (or else they'd say 1.1, wouldn't they?), talk about TLS (not SSL, e.g. BREACH, C...
[14:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:02] <exec> 08└─username.dyndns.org Or any of a dozen supported rivals, many of them free. Next question?
[14:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:15:18] <exec> 08└─but I find left-handed people kind of disgusting.
[14:16:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 1636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:16:55] <exec> 08└─I disagree, The rail infrastructure companies will likely grow as E-cars become accepted. Like it or not they are always going to have a range issue, and rail is more efficient than cars or trucks for long hauls. The more likely scenario is that as cars go electric, rail picks up the long haul slack...
[14:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should All Android Phones Run Stock Android? - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:27] <exec> 08└─Android phones run Android by definition. PCs can run almost anything, e.g. macOS, GNU, BSD, Windows. So the question would be: Should PCs run stock macOS, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, Windows, etc... or Should Windows PCs run stock Windows.
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[15:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:22] <exec> 08└─Mice can navigate in space? Didn't I read something about that in a Douglas Adams book once?
[15:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 1299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:24] <exec> 08└─There isn't any, on a layperson's level. It's been known that glial cells are as vital as neurons, though this hasn't always been the case. https://www.the-scientist.com [the-scientist.com] https://www.scientificamerican.com
[15:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:35] <exec> 08└─Ummm, are you objecting to the Avocados or to the Mexicans? How about tomatoes (which came from South America), are you off those too? You must have a pretty limited diet if you don't eat [insert list of crops not native to continental USA].
[15:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:49] <exec> 08└─You're overstating your case with the loss of coordination. It's just as easy to move some S. Koreans to Kansas, or California, or New Hampshire for training, as it is for us to move stuff over there. Training together doesn't actually require that you be in South Korea to do it.
[15:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:51] <exec> 08└─As a retard i rezent dat.
[15:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:53] <exec> 08└─The world can't wait for you to step up and show everybody how it's done.
[15:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 2026 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:55] <exec> 08└─These "wargames" have been little more than expensive provocations from the start. Clinton (wisely) suspended them for a couple of years and not by coincidence there was a period when the north was open to diplomacy, which ended when domestic politics forced him to restart. That was 1998, and set th...
[15:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:57] <exec> 08└─Depends. I have long wondered why South Korea and Japan keep offering to be the battlegrounds for the (back then) upcoming nuclear war between the USA and North Korea. If the talks between North and South Korea turns gets better results than the talks between NK and the USA, he may end up wanting to...
[15:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 1665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:00] <exec> 08└─He tried to get the USA out of the war in Syria. But every time he started doing stuff about it, "Assad conveniently gasses Syrian children". I highly doubt Assad or Trump were involved in those gas attacks, but what do you expect Trump to do? Take a higher risk to fight against those who want all t...
[15:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:02] <exec> 08└─Trump got something out of it: In his own mind and the minds of his believers, he got to look like a great diplomat on TV, and present further evidence that either he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize or the Nobel committee are a bunch of liberals who didn't give him one because they don't want to acknow...
[15:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:48] <exec> 08└─Expensive? Really? My understanding is that it costs only a fraction as much as any of the alternatives proposed so far. From what I can find the A-10 unit cost is $18.8 million, while it's "replacement", the F-35A has unit costs of $148 million - almost 8x as much.
[15:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:49] <exec> 08└─Our new space force will pick up the slack. We'll shoot em from our space ships.
[15:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:52] <exec> 08└─So we're going to replace one of our most effective and beloved jets with a Cessna. Makes perfect sense. Won't even be that difficult to train people. What's that? You took a flying lesson in a Cessna 172? Well this is the same thing but with light weapons.
[15:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:54] <exec> 08└─something relatively inexpensive and easy to maintain that could be flown from relatively unimproved airfields to conduct armed reconnaissance, interdiction, and close air support missions.
[15:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:56] <exec> 08└─the F-35A has unit costs of $148 million
[15:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:14:58] <exec> 08└─That's starting to sound like the Bradley [youtu.be].
[15:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:00] <exec> 08└─Probably something that flew in Vietnam. I wonder what aircraft fits that description...
[15:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:15] <exec> 08└─or ... basically any other forbidden object that doesn't require sustenance and doesn't think for itself
[15:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:53] <exec> 08└─One explanation I've seen proposed is combat advantage - something which until quite recently played a major role in our species - warfare, raiding parties, etc. A left-handed combatant (swords, clubs, fists, etc) has a significant advantage because they will be familiar with fighting right-handed o...
[15:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:15:54] <exec> 08└─He may claim mental deficiencies, but the IRS won't grant exemptions for them.
[15:16:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:35] <exec> 08└─I'm well aware of that. I've been on the internet since the turn of the century, and then some. I've been talking to real lefties, mostly from Europe, for a lot of that time. But, at least five other people found your post informative. Maybe you need to keep on preaching that part of your sermons. M...
[15:16:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:36] <exec> 08└─Well, now, Ilpapa, or Lilpapa, or whatever - I would appreciate you pointing out exactly where I "apologized" for being American. Didn't happen, did it? What I said was, we have plenty of evil sumbitches to go around, right here in America. The bastards climbed to the top of a dog-eat-dog world, bec...
[15:16:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:39] <exec> 08└─Oh, FFS - Iran didn't "steal" anything from the US/UK and/or British Petroleum. The Ottoman fell apart (with our help, of course) and we colonized the place. Iranians were pretty happy with the state of affairs, but they wanted a little more money. We balked over a few cents more, for what the Irani...
[15:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:41] <exec> 08└─Dafuq? Are you just feeling argumentative? Or, you got a thing for Fakebeldin? "both House and Senate need to overwhelmingly support it." re impeachment If a supermajority of both the House and the Senate does not support an impeachment of the president, then there can be no conviction. Without the...
[15:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:54] <exec> 08└─As a general purpose work platform, you are always way behind the feature curve of just about ports package you would want to use. So that they can be guaranteed stable and reliable, unlike where they are on the bleeding edge, and things that were working keep falling over in a heap.
[15:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FreeBSD Celebrates 25th Anniversary, Tuesday, June 19th - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:55] <exec> 08└─Feminists and SJWs love shoving their CoCs down people's throats.
[15:18:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Microsoft Proudly Supports ICE In Its Work - 859 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:39] <exec> 08└─Gassing the Jews did not come out of the blue. It was preceded by a series of deliberate, planned, measurered steps that were 100% clear in retrospect. You're seeing the exact same pattern in the USA, and it has gone far beyond the "Then they came for the Trade Unionists..." part. Thing is, you're c...
[15:21:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:43] <exec> 08└─The kingdom of God began in 33AD, when the centurion says Uh oh. The kingdom of a god (there where god rules) is more general than a second jerusalem coming from the sky as described in the apocalypse, so, maybe, it is not the books who are the problem.
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[16:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:37] <exec> 08└─Does that really matter, as long as it's not poisonous? You don't eat the peel of an avocado, you cut it apart and pull off the peel and eat the interior (minus the giant seed).
[16:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:39] <exec> 08└─You don't eat the seed?
[16:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:41] <exec> 08└─Omg people are doing it: https://www.livestrong.com [livestrong.com] http://www.health.com [health.com]
[16:13:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 233 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:51] <exec> 08└─I can't say that I really care about this North Korea business, but if Trump actually cared about saving money, he wouldn't have signed off on a large increase in military spending when we already have a ridiculously bloated military
[16:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:03] <exec> 08└─In contrast Clinton
[16:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 1863 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:04] <exec> 08└─"I have long wondered why South Korea and Japan keep offering to be the battlegrounds for the (back then) upcoming nuclear war between the USA and North Korea." In a word, history. For a second, add nationalism. The Korean Empire was annexed by the Empire of Japan in 1910. It was ruled by Japan for...
[16:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:06] <exec> 08└─So Bill Clinton gave him everything and he got nothing in return!?! How inexperienced.
[16:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:08] <exec> 08└─China is only required by treaty to get involved if North Korea is attacked first. They don't have to help North Korea if North Korea does the attacking first. China is all for status quo. They don't want millions of refugees from North Korea. They've plenty of people of their own to worry about.
[16:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:11] <exec> 08└─Retarded is maybe a bit much. After all, he can read, write and speak at a fourth grade level.
[16:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:13] <exec> 08└─"more than a parade where missile tractors and battalions march in front of the Great Leader" so the parade in D.C. is still on?
[16:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:06] <exec> 08└─IIRC it was about 10 years ago. I remember that the UK vehicles were marked on the roofs (Orange spot?) and the pilots realised their mistake as they were firing.
[16:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 830 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:08] <exec> 08└─I definitely hear what you're saying, but it's worth noting that even the human-readable simplified spec that made it into the summary for this competition focuses on robustness and ability to fly from relatively unimproved airstrips. I bet they aren't offering contracts with 10 figures attached for...
[16:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:10] <exec> 08└─A-1 Skyraider
[16:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:25] <exec> 08└─So ... seeing how it all turned out, how likely is it that the initial child porn accusations were completely manufactured?
[16:15:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:46] <exec> 08└─Translation: I work for NSA and would really like if you wouldn't fix potential vulnerabilities before we use them against you.
[16:15:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:47] <exec> 08└─The protocols are broken. They are crackable NOW. Using commodity hardware and a MITM.
[16:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:16:06] <exec> 08└─I suppose that xenophobia can explain that. Who else do you find disgusting? Asians? Chinese?
[16:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Musk Alleges Tesla Model 3 Production Has Been Sabotaged, According To CNBC - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:49] <exec> 08└─Siemens, Allen-Bradley, Parker IQAN, Opto, the brand doesn't matter
[16:21:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:21:55] <exec> 08└─You would interpret it as saying that because you want to protect your faith. That's cowardly.
[16:21:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:21:56] <exec> 08└─some appeals to authority (Jesus in this case)
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[17:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:16] <exec> 08└─Neil Degrasse Tyson is clearly vying for the slot but seems to make science seem more elitist, more pedantic (read literally any of his tweets) and thus appears to miss the point entirely
[17:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:25] <exec> 08└─The news is that SoylentNews became the "I Fucking Love Science" Facebook fan page at some point when we weren't paying attention.
[17:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:28] <exec> 08└─And equally wrong is the notion that the prime function of nurses and other staff are to help support doctors in running a hospital
[17:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:41] <exec> 08└─It's gonna be a shock when he realizes that the tumbleweed is an Evil Russian Invader.
[17:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:10] <exec> 08└─It's just as easy to move some S. Koreans to Kansas, or California, or New Hampshire for training, as it is for us to move stuff over there.
[17:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe what the US needs is an invasion just like Iraq received in 2003. Liberate us from Trump and his followers, stop this irresponsible regime from obtaining Weapons of Mass Destruction, and we'll be a happy, stable, prosperous democracy again.
[17:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:13] <exec> 08└─The world can't wait for you to step up and show everybody how it's done.
[17:14:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:16] <exec> 08└─Why continue to beat the war drums after every reason for the war is long dead?
[17:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:18] <exec> 08└─The last invasions initiated by a western nation other than US were the Hitler's ones.
[17:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:20] <exec> 08└─The world can't wait for you to step up and show everybody how it's done. I count two sentences with proper punctuation and spelling and no blatant lies. So, he kinda just did...
[17:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:22] <exec> 08└─The last invasions initiated by a western nation other than US were the Hitler's ones.
[17:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:25] <exec> 08└─Doesn't that kind of depend on one's feelings about Crimea?
[17:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:19] <exec> 08└─Did you include the cost of the pilot? They cost alot and are hard to replace.
[17:16:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:18] <exec> 08└─No, just lefties for some reason. [shudders]
[17:16:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 286 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:45] <exec> 08└─Upon agreeing to ease up on ZTE, Trump's development project in Indonesia got a $half-billion investment from China.gov. [google.com] The dude can't go an hour without violating one of the multiple instances of emoluments clauses in the Constitution. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[17:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:03] <exec> 08└─All that need be done, is to stir up the villagers with their torches and pitchforks. And, after the big housecleaning, we start enforcing sensible laws.
[17:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:05] <exec> 08└─Kim is a liberal dictator? Shirley you jest.
[17:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:07] <exec> 08└─Next year both Trump and Pence will be impeached and convicted leaving Pelosi as President.
[17:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:09] <exec> 08└─ITYM Lummox.
[17:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:11] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't coming up with a case. The problem is that both House and Senate need to overwhelmingly support it. The problem is Republicans. Full Stop.
[17:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:36] <exec> 08└─Javascript was a mistake.
[17:22:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03danuk [5137] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Infant Mortality Rates Higher in Areas with More Christian Fundamentalists - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:19] <exec> 08└─People With Religious Affiliations Live Longer https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[17:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:52] <exec> 08└─Very true. It's a shame that these frauds probably ruining it for legit researchers.
[17:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Biohacker With Implanted Card Escapes Conviction - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:54] <exec> 08└─No amount of antics and resulting legislation can stop people from doing biology/chemistry. Just look at the Drug War.
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[18:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:17] <exec> 08└─any debris larger than five millimeters that is expected to remain in orbit for more than 25 years is to be justified on the basis of cost and mission requirements.
[18:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:18] <exec> 08└─evaluated and justified on the basis of cost effectiveness and mission requirements.
[18:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:21] <exec> 08└─Will the debris be managed the way managers usually manage things on the surface of the planet? Perhaps by executive order space debris should only threaten non US satellites. And what's wrong with Space Debris? We have the best space debris! The best. The very best. Other world leaders call me all...
[18:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:30] <exec> 08└─Why is this being decided in Texas. Samsung could drive over to the South Korean university, and settle it in country. South Korea is a signatory to patent treaties, they can litigate any patent in their own courts.
[18:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:40] <exec> 08└─Science!
[18:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:42] <exec> 08└─And equally wrong is the notion that the prime function of nurses and other staff are to help support doctors in running a hospital.
[18:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:44] <exec> 08└─Which one of my 60 billion or so glial cells is the one that's the key?
[18:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:00] <exec> 08└─Avacado is a Mexican food and should stay the hell out of our fine country. Good news! The longer shelf life will allow us to ship them in from Guatemala instead. Problem solved?
[18:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:01] <exec> 08└─The problem for me is *when* the thing will be ripe. In stores, it is usually not ripe yet or over-ripe. I then have to plan when it will be ripe and put it next to bananas and other fruit to fasten/slow down the ripening process based on my meal plans. Avocado is tricky I find. Good, but tricky non...
[18:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:38] <exec> 08└─"Wargames" sounds innocuous but if you look at these things from the northerners point of view they're anything but. What actually happens is that the military of two much larger nations go through all the steps of launching a full-scale invasion of your country, by air land and sea, including nucle...
[18:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:39] <exec> 08└─Hey now, we also got a weakly worded letter that promises to talk about a more strongly worded letter at some point!
[18:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:36] <exec> 08└─As soon as it survives this: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[18:15:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:15:38] <exec> 08└─That is what the pilot tub is for.
[18:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdccdevel [1329] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 2398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:16] <exec> 08└─I have to work with equipment that has this sort of problem ALL THE TIME. There is a LOT of equipment out there, on Enterprise LANs and WANs, and in peoples homes, that use old versions of TLS and even SSL to encrypt web browser access. That equipment (most of it) absolutely CAN NOT be upgraded as y...
[18:16:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 1399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:37] <exec> 08└─There's more than one left-brain/right-brain theory. One of them has been disproven. Some of them have been called into question, and a few seem reasonably solid. The "bicameral brain" hypothesis has pretty much been disproven. The ones about some forms of epilepsy tending to start on one side and s...
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[18:16:39] <exec> 08└─FWIW, there are some problems for which chiropracty is the best treatment available. The problem is, that most chiropractors don't know their limits, and they're working on invalid theories.
[18:16:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:41] <exec> 08└─I think the word you're looking for is "sinister".
[18:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:31] <exec> 08└─Trouble is that the Rs have become the party of Trump. It is the Trump fans that are their constituency, and they know it.
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[19:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:23] <exec> 08└─Well, the US system is /not/ a "cesspool of political bias"? Maybe it is time to leave the UN too? It seems that collaboration is overrated in the US. It looks like the Not-Invented-Here-syndrome is taking over.
[19:13:24] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 914 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:25] <exec> 08└─The US has not been in any kind of position to lecture anybody on human rights for a very very long time (if ever). For a long time, the US government has: - imprisoned the largest number of people on Earth, both per capita and in total numbers - executed more people than all countries other than Ch...
[19:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:27] <exec> 08└─Seeing how the US is operating concentration camps and forcibly separating children from parents along the US-Mexican border right now... it sounds appropriate that they would withdraw themselves from any pretense of evaluating or passing judgement on human rights.
[19:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:29] <exec> 08└─US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley announced the United States is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council Tuesday, accusing the body of bias against US ally Israel and a failure to hold human rights abusers accountable.
[19:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:31] <exec> 08└─So where exactly ARE they keeping the parents? I'm guessing in some facility that is likely worse? And I'm guessing they separate males and females so if both parents happen to be present, they will be split up. And I think it is a good guess that the USA does not have documentation on every single...
[19:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:42] <exec> 08└─You forgot to put on your RealDonnaldTrump hat. Fake account owner exposed!
[19:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:44] <exec> 08└─I, for one, welcome our new space garbagemen [wikipedia.org].
[19:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:54] <exec> 08└─Why Do Patent Trolls Go to Texas? It’s Not for the BBQ [eff.org] The Town That Trolls Built [bloomberg.com] Many patent-holders stop looking to East Texas following Supreme Court ruling [arstechnica.com] Hopefully it is on the decline.
[19:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bryan [29] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:56] <exec> 08└─Half a billion to a patent troll here, half a billion to another NPE there, multiple billions for having the 'courage' to have rounded corners and an unlock slider. At what point does a company just throw in the towel and give up on backwards countries with imaginary property laws?
[19:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:27] <exec> 08└─Actually avocado trees grow and produce quite well in many areas of the U.S., especially in California and Florida. It is true that most of the avocados consumed in the U.S. are imported from Mexico where the modern verities seem to have originated. However they do grow well in temperate climates sa...
[19:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:06] <exec> 08└─Ahh now that's an interesting wrinkle I didn't see, thanks. That's not the same thing at all, although I'd say the implications are generally similar. There doesn't seem to be much of a downside aside from at the personal level for personnel that might have been looking forward to it, and in the con...
[19:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:08] <exec> 08└─The part of Russia people actually live in is in Europe....Personally I think of them as much more European than Asian, since they had (have?) a large Eastern Orthodox population and were generally involved in European political maneuvering until WWI. Generally speaking, the current consensus would...
[19:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:10] <exec> 08└─Saved money, huh? The US Military budget was just INCREASED by 82 billion dollars. [washingtonpost.com]
[19:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:12] <exec> 08└─So Bill Clinton gave him everything and he got nothing in return!?! How inexperienced. Nope, the NK submitted to nuclear inspections in return for that concession: The government announced Wednesday that a major U.S.-South Korean military exercise will be deferred until late this year and could be c...
[19:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:14] <exec> 08└─President Obama lost Crimea. Just so you understand, this was before I got there. President Obama lost Crimea. Because Putin didn’t respect President Obama. President Obama lost Crimea because President Putin didn’t respect President Obama, didn’t respect our Country and didn’t respect Ukrai...
[19:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:14] <exec> 08└─The wiki link I posted above says that there are only two contenders left. Both are probably faster than the A10. ;-)
[19:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:15] <exec> 08└─The problem is also one of having enough A-10s in the theater you need them right now. They are slow, and fairly large (wing span wise), and its hard to get them to where you need them. The size of aircraft they are considering could probably fit 4 or 5 in a C5A, especially if they request folding w...
[19:16:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:17] <exec> 08└─Too fast for humans to aim. Hint: Its not 1944 any more.
[19:16:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 459 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:25] <exec> 08└─So ... seeing how it all turned out, how likely is it that the initial child porn accusations were completely manufactured? Keep that in mind, anytime you see it happening again. The US is not governed by the rule of law anymore. It is governed by the rule of might, and the law is just a fig leaf to...
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[20:13:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 237 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:24] <exec> 08└─US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley announced the United States is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council Tuesday, accusing the body of bias against US ally Israel and a failure to hold human rights abusers accountable.
[20:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:26] <exec> 08└─The HRC [ifex.org] is a sick joke. Revisit the Rwandan genocide or observe the current situation in the Yemen, I'm sure we'll get an apology for the latter some day too. The UN is a Fabian project and should be disbanded.
[20:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:28] <exec> 08└─Accusations of bias tend to say a lot more about the person making the accusation than they do about the person being accused. That's why, when parodying the ridiculousness of those sorts of claims, Stephen Colbert argued "Reality has a well-known liberal bias".
[20:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:31] <exec> 08└─yet not surprising. Terrible is the new normal, thanks stupid clickbait media fuckers!
[20:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:33] <exec> 08└─In other news, Donald Trump deports the Statue of Liberty back to France. Say's we don't need her anymore.
[20:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:35] <exec> 08└─the US is operating concentration camps
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:37] <exec> 08└─LOL [dailycaller.com]
[20:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:39] <exec> 08└─The UN has largely succeeded at what it was really set up to do in the late 1940's, namely stop a humanity-ending World War III by at least keeping diplomatic channels open between the US, USSR (now Russia), and China. The members of the Security Council with veto power have veto power because any o...
[20:13:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:42] <exec> 08└─More evidence from the original gewg_: UN Report: USA is a "Shithole Country" [soylentnews.org] sourcing Common Dreams and Counterpunch. wswswswsws ran an article today about wealth stratification [wsws.org]. It concludes (in usual wswswswswsws style): The working class has no choice but to confront...
[20:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:44] <exec> 08└─Ohh....scary liberals "weaponized" one of the great symbols of Liberty in our nation. By pointing out that Republicans are now opposed to it....
[20:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:46] <exec> 08└─And to take it a step further, we now have a president who's totally enamored with (even jealous of) the worst dictators and tyrants in the world...Putin, Kim Jung Un, Duterte, Xi Jinping and his now-infinite term etc, etc. I wish that was just some liberal spin, but he keeps telling us directly [th...
[20:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:48] <exec> 08└─The US created those laws. That is no excuse. It's absolutely despicable. All of America should be ashamed. American 'Christians' that bindly look the other way when it's inconvienient to accept reality are terrible people. I hope there is a hell so they can rot in it. America used to be a moral lea...
[20:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:50] <exec> 08└─Scared person just so afraid of brown people taking der jerrrbs they forget where they came from. This black/white method of viewing reality is stupid. No one is saying we need completely open borders to let anyone and everyone in, but what Trump is doing now is just downright evil. First they came...
[20:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:53] <exec> 08└─The Great Deporter In Chief Obama set new records for kicking illegals out, without getting all our Friends -and the Pope- to scream about his methods.
[20:13:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:55] <exec> 08└─The US created those laws. That is no excuse.
[20:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:57] <exec> 08└─Looks like instead of predicting FEMA concentration camps, we should have been predicting ICE concentration camps. From wswswswsws today 6/20 The United States of America: Land of internment camps [wsws.org]: Guards subject many children to verbal, physical and sexual abuse.
[20:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:59] <exec> 08└─Those Americans are idiots fueled by hatred against elitist liberals. It is insane how their hatred has blinded them to the trumpster fire burning right in front of them.
[20:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:01] <exec> 08└─I don't blame the border agents. I actually feel sorry for them too. I place the blame squarely on Trump and his administration as well as the spineless scumbags you call Congress.
[20:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:04] <exec> 08└─"Let them hate as long as they fear." (c) Caligula
[20:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:06] <exec> 08└─You didn't read TFA then? If I stick a plaque with an Adam Smith quote on the Lenin statue in Seattle, would communists then be opposed to communism because they disagree with the text?
[20:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 1762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:08] <exec> 08└─I can't believe you overlooked that we are now running concentration camps for children torn away from their parents. This draws a rather scary parallel to history. Jewish children were ripped from their mothers, fathers, and grandparents and violently separated too. Also incarcerated via metal fenc...
[20:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:10] <exec> 08└─Nationalism and populism are a nasty pair.
[20:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:13] <exec> 08└─Blame the media. This is one of the reasons we need to bust up the media monopolies, important matters go unnoticed when the oligarchy desires it. Without the media making a stink about something it is near impossible to rally the people.
[20:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:15] <exec> 08└─Fine, the US should just repeal all of their immigration laws. It's a democracy, vote. And let everyone just walk in freely, bringing crime, taking US jobs, not paying taxes, damaging the economy, and so on. Oh, wait, people in the US want to protect their own economy and protect their own children?...
[20:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:17] <exec> 08└─I can't believe you overlooked that we are now running concentration camps for children torn away from their parents.
[20:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 741 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:19] <exec> 08└─Liberal News media were carrying video of these "children" being "herded" to the showers (which were promptly called gas chambers). All the "kids" were gang-age males. Many of whom arrived without a parent in site according to one report. And the girls? https://losangeles.cbslocal.com
[20:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:21] <exec> 08└─The UN has largely succeeded at what it was really set up to do
[20:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:24] <exec> 08└─Mike Godwin, the man who created Godwin's Law, has something to say about the Trump administration: https://twitter.com [twitter.com]
[20:14:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:26] <exec> 08└─I place the blame squarely on Trump and his administration
[20:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:29] <exec> 08└─I don't blame the border agents. I actually feel sorry for them too.
[20:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:40] <exec> 08└─Sorry. I'm not RealDonaldTrump.
[20:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe the university's patent is legit, and Samsung infringed on it because they consider getting punished by the courts just a cost of doing business (which they can delay by years with appeals).
[20:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:07] <exec> 08└─better that than " I fuckin love politics !!!"
[20:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:27] <exec> 08└─but why is that so bad I cannot find solid information.
[20:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:29] <exec> 08└─awnsering to myself, it is mostly harmless unless you eat ton of it, but even then gastrointesnial distress will probably save you... it is not toxic enought to be poisonous to dogs, and dogs are poor metabolizer of almost anything. https://spoonuniversity.com
[20:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Avocados With Double the Shelf Life Debut in the U.S. - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:31] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjRWh3TW_ms [youtube.com]
[20:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:17] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I can easily envision turning whichever of these planes wins the competition into a drone, "manned" remotely. Get them cheap enough that you don't break the bank when some get shot down, and put the pilots in a cargo container (or E-8C JSTARS) somewhere near enough that you don't need that...
[20:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah, fake news with cooked numbers according to revisionist history, then. Remember, the first rule of friendly fire is that it isn't.
[20:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:21] <exec> 08└─Drones, yes. But A10s are predominantly tank buster, and their gatling guns are mostly shooting armor piercing rounds, at light armored vehicles or pickup trucks. Nobody is expecting these to be used against massed ground troops. When ISIS was on the prowl (and Obama letting them run wild), that was...
[20:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:23] <exec> 08└─Seriously, you post a link to a two hour video?
[20:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:25] <exec> 08└─the Air Force might slip Iron Mike in the cockpit and turn it over to the boys in Creech to fly
[20:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:42] <exec> 08└─It's worse. A "computer" is just an object. Pass it around to a bunch of people in an office, show it to the people on the street, and not one of them could differentiate between a file server, mail server, or workstation. Yet, a man paid for by the state says it contains the worst possible things w...
[20:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:30] <exec> 08└─And Leftie hillbillies that are right-wing! [uncontrollable shuddering]
[20:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 2320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:21] <exec> 08└─You're falling back into Cold War bullshit. First, from 1917 until 1924 (when Lenin died and Stalin grabbed power), USSR had a successful form of both. [google.com] N.B. A soviet is a council: workers council, consumers council, town council, whatever. It was aggression (not competition) from Capita...
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[21:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:17] <exec> 08└─I remember prying the top off an EEPROM or DRAM, writing a program that mapped cells to pixels, and used it as a rudimentary camera. It was B&W with really bad resolution (you could tell when you passed a finger over it, that was about all). We probably got the idea from Byte or somesuch, we sure di...
[21:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 923 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:00] <exec> 08└─No blame for Mexico, sending and financing these rush-to-the-border marches? https://www.fairus.org [fairus.org] You seem to be under the delusion that all at once, a bunch of people suddenly decide to march their children 1000 miles with...
[21:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 1150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:01] <exec> 08└─Except of course, as an SJW, Colbert was lying and projecting. Call him on it and he will happily demonstrate the 2nd Law as well when he doubles down on the stupid. Progressivism is mostly based on denying reality and science. It is a dark and twisted religion. The U.N. is another horrible lie we s...
[21:14:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:03] <exec> 08└─The US has not been in any kind of position to lecture anybody on human rights for a very very long time
[21:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:05] <exec> 08└─In other news, Donald Trump deports the Statue of Liberty back to France. Say's we don't need her anymore.
[21:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:08] <exec> 08└─I hope there is a hell so they can rot in it.
[21:14:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:10] <exec> 08└─I can't believe you overlooked that we are now running concentration camps for children torn away from their parents. This draws a rather scary parallel to history. Jewish children were ripped from their mothers, fathers, and grandparents and violently separated too. Also incarcerated via metal fenc...
[21:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:12] <exec> 08└─iberal society depends on the rule of law,
[21:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:14] <exec> 08└─Apparently, its not possible to embarrass Mexico or any other central american country.
[21:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:17] <exec> 08└─Sure and Trump, who was not responsible for existing legislation, has just signed an executive order to that effect.
[21:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:19] <exec> 08└─How old are these kids? [npr.org]
[21:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:21] <exec> 08└─All the "kids" were gang-age males.
[21:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:23] <exec> 08└─You just know jmorris is always tagged when playing duck duck goose because he has all the right steps.
[21:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 1385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:25] <exec> 08└─1. Most of the kids weren't "ripped from their parents". Many are unrelated being used as human shields and for trafficking. Once we established the rule that having a child in toe would let you skip detention the invaders adapted to that change in the rules. 2. They can be reunited any time they wa...
[21:14:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:27] <exec> 08└─You throw SJW around so often it is meaningless. Just like Chicken Little and The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Maybe it's time for you to update your routine?
[21:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:30] <exec> 08└─There is no Heaven or Hell. Hell would be an improvement. Also Trump a good Presbyterian boy who dindu nuffin. I read it on his Wiki.
[21:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:32] <exec> 08└─financing these rush-to-the-border marches
[21:14:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:34] <exec> 08└─They can;t defend it so all they do is lie, lie, and lie some more.
[21:14:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:36] <exec> 08└─More stupidity, what is the point in discussing anything with you fools? Just keep that hate train rolling, eventually you'll drag us all into hell.
[21:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:39] <exec> 08└─More stupidity, what is the point in discussing anything with you fools?
[21:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:41] <exec> 08└─Kinda the perfect thing there when the inventor of Godwin's Law demonstrates it for everyone. There is a lesson there that the Left can ignore. You morons still can't admit the basic truth. This how you got Trump. This is how you will get more Trump. And even the ones on the Left who can see it can'...
[21:14:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:43] <exec> 08└─One of the people heavily involved in creating the UN is only a couple of degrees of separation from me, because he was married to one of my great-aunts. We've never heard of anything remotely of the sort of what your link describes. So either he was extremely good at keeping his mouth shut (his wif...
[21:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:45] <exec> 08└─You throw SJW around so often it is meaningless.
[21:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:47] <exec> 08└─One report, from FOX
[21:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:49] <exec> 08└─Wow! I mean, yeah, it's pure -1 Flamebait. But, on the other hand, if you want to read an example of the mind-numbing level of projection conservatives are willing to engage in it's +1 Informative.
[21:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:52] <exec> 08└─Yup. As soon as the media is finally silenced, we can have our fun with all those undesirables. I hear the weather is lovely in Dachau this time of the year.
[21:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:54] <exec> 08└─gang-age males
[21:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:56] <exec> 08└─1. For a meaningless term all the right people sure do instantly know when they have been insulted. It works. 2. They SJWs themselves named themselves. We just weaponized it back on them by flipping it to a term of ridicule. 3. Social Justice is a contradiction in terms. None will debate me on that...
[21:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:58] <exec> 08└─and so he ruined it by saying it on twitter. this is my surprised face.
[21:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:22] <exec> 08└─after a federal jury in Texas
[21:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Samsung Ordered to Pay $400 Million in FinFET Patent Infringement Case - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:24] <exec> 08└─public university patent are of debatable morality but the patent itself is pretty legit. it describe a problem with physical tech and explain not only the solution but what was tried before reaching it: However, the source/drain region formed in thin body region has the same nano-size body width as...
[21:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 1095 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:38] <exec> 08└─Yep. There are still doctors like that, too. And generally speaking staff likes to make sure physicians have what they need to be able to treat patients with maximum concentration. But a hospital nurse is not the physician's employee nor is the physician likely the nurse's supervisor anymore, as it...
[21:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Often Overlooked Glial Cell Is Key To Learning And Memory - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:40] <exec> 08└─It also didn't used to be that a nurse would be sued for malpractice ... Those days are gone, too.
[21:16:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 280 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:17] <exec> 08└─You're overstating your case with the loss of coordination. It's just as easy to move some S. Koreans to Kansas, or California, or New Hampshire for training, as it is for us to move stuff over there. Training together doesn't actually require that you be in South Korea to do it.
[21:16:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 1863 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:25] <exec> 08└─"I have long wondered why South Korea and Japan keep offering to be the battlegrounds for the (back then) upcoming nuclear war between the USA and North Korea." In a word, history. For a second, add nationalism. The Korean Empire was annexed by the Empire of Japan in 1910. It was ruled by Japan for...
[21:16:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:46] <exec> 08└─We shouldn't care if Kim gets everything he wants, excepting that which conflicts with what we want. Supposedly he gave up more than nukes. Artillery aimed at Seoul will be moved elsewhere.
[21:16:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:47] <exec> 08└─You left out the USSR's role in all this. The USSR declared war with Japan, conveniently right after we had already gone nuclear. Instead of saying "no thanks, too late" we let the USSR grab a few islands from Japan (which is a sore point in Japan to this day) and then let the USSR administer half o...
[21:16:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:16:49] <exec> 08└─You should stop bringing up someone who didn't get the cut. It makes you sound like a broken record. We are talking about the current situation, not what you think would have happened if someone else was president. We are talking about what IS happening. Try to keep up.
[21:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:57] <exec> 08└─If you haven't seen it, it's worth the time when you've got 2 hours to spare. I'm assuming that more than one reader is familiar with the epic saga...
[21:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spook brat [775] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:58] <exec> 08└─Yeah, fake news with cooked numbers according to revisionist history, then.
[21:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:00] <exec> 08└─A-10 aircraft go into places where they get shot up. You need 2 engines. Yes, there are a few options for twin-engine prop planes (twin-boom like the P-38 or P-61, push-pull like the Cessna O-2 Skymaster, or out on the wings) but nobody is proposing that. The PW1200G is about right. It is a tiny bit...
[21:18:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Air Force Tests Two Turboprops as Potential A-10 “Replacements” - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:02] <exec> 08└─Cessna actually did put out a fairly successful light ground attack aircraft used during Vietnam: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:18:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 254 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:11] <exec> 08└─This is why making it illegal to merely possess something (child porn, drugs, etc.) is so dangerous; it is all too easy to plant the thing that is illegal. Police do that all too often with drugs, and it's even easier with child porn, which is just data.
[21:18:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:22] <exec> 08└─Turning it around then, this is the kind of person the government hires for sensitive positions after an exhaustive background check? Similarly with the armed FBI agent who ends up shooting somebody in a club after doing a backflip while drinking.
[21:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomtomtom [340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06It's Time for TLS 1.0 and 1.1 to Die - 973 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:46] <exec> 08└─There are ways we can improve on this. The "ssh model" (trust on first use), for servers you connect to frequently, is better in many ways than trusting the very large number of CAs out there *every* time you connect. That's why things like HPKP certificate pinning exist - to try to combine the two....
[21:18:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Mykl [1112] 02 - 06Why Being Left-Handed Matters for Mental Health Treatment - 97 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:56] <exec> 08└─Well, it's said that 10,000 hours of "practice" in anything will make you a world-class expert...
[21:19:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 1783 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:28] <exec> 08└─How about a different idea? Each of the actors involved, including the US politicians and the US voters, has good points and bad points. Take domestic politics, for instance. I mostly despise our "left", but from time to time, they have a good idea. I despise our "right" a little less, but from time...
[21:19:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] 02 - 06President Trump Trumped as US Senate Votes to Reinstate ZTE Ban - 117 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:45] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't coming up with a case. The problem is that both House and Senate need to overwhelmingly support it.
[21:20:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] 02 - 06YouTube’s Piracy Filter Blocks MIT Courses, Blender Videos, and More - 338 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:22] <exec> 08└─I though the "you can run your videos ad free, for free" model was a bit too good to be true. But from YouTube POV if these channels are getting thousands of views a day then they are going to want a bite of the pie. I always wanted to know why some videos have a single advert and others can have 4+...
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[22:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:24] <exec> 08└─The Micron Eye It had gaps in it because the array divided into quadrants
[22:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:26] <exec> 08└─The really impressive applications for this kind of sensor would be low light stuff - they don't mention the resolution, but if this is even 1080p but with starlight vision capability, that would make an awesome way to video night hunting lions, etc.
[22:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:28] <exec> 08└─It's 120 megapixel so those are going to be some really big images. That size and that pixel count will make for some sweet astrophotography. And expensive. Really, really really expensive. But really sweet.
[22:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:30] <exec> 08└─Hunting lions with a 20cm sensor means: get very close to the lion, or carry a lens as big as a can(n)on, or put up with some slight vignetting.
[22:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:33] <exec> 08└─As I read the article, that's another sensor that's 120MP, not this one...
[22:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:35] <exec> 08└─That's why the company is called Cannon, right? Personally, I prefer to be some distance from the lions when filming, especially with a 100kg camera+lens to maneuver, so a reflector telephoto isn't a bad thing (and, yeah, reflector lenses do have some funky flare effects...)
[22:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:37] <exec> 08└─Would this sensor make sense to use for large ground telescopes or space telescopes?
[22:13:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 265 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:48] <exec> 08└─Seeing how the US is operating concentration camps and forcibly separating children from parents along the US-Mexican border right now... it sounds appropriate that they would withdraw themselves from any pretense of evaluating or passing judgement on human rights.
[22:14:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 396 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:00] <exec> 08└─And to take it a step further, we now have a president who's totally enamored with (even jealous of) the worst dictators and tyrants in the world...Putin, Kim Jung Un, Duterte, Xi Jinping and his now-infinite term etc, etc. I wish that was just some liberal spin, but he keeps telling us directly [th...
[22:14:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snow [1601] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 541 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:01] <exec> 08└─The US created those laws. That is no excuse. It's absolutely despicable. All of America should be ashamed. American 'Christians' that bindly look the other way when it's inconvienient to accept reality are terrible people. I hope there is a hell so they can rot in it. America used to be a moral lea...
[22:14:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 1762 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:11] <exec> 08└─I can't believe you overlooked that we are now running concentration camps for children torn away from their parents. This draws a rather scary parallel to history. Jewish children were ripped from their mothers, fathers, and grandparents and violently separated too. Also incarcerated via metal fenc...
[22:14:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ilPapa [2366] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 170 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:19] <exec> 08└─Mike Godwin, the man who created Godwin's Law, has something to say about the Trump administration: https://twitter.com [twitter.com]
[22:14:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 104 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:25] <exec> 08└─The US has not been in any kind of position to lecture anybody on human rights for a very very long time
[22:14:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:43] <exec> 08└─You throw SJW around so often it is meaningless.
[22:14:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:45] <exec> 08└─Wow! I mean, yeah, it's pure -1 Flamebait. But, on the other hand, if you want to read an example of the mind-numbing level of projection conservatives are willing to engage in it's +1 Informative.
[22:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:51] <exec> 08└─You keep repeating that mantra but it doesn't make it so. You, jmorris, are no George Constanta.
[22:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:54] <exec> 08└─I know, it's like the left don't realize Who signed the main piece of legislation at play. [wikipedia.org] Or that Trump shouldn't be legislating by executive order [whitehouse.gov] (like Obama) because Cryin' Chuck Schemer and friends still refuse to work with the administration on legislation.
[22:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:56] <exec> 08└─nah, the Statue itself is fine. Lovely gift from the French people. The stupid poem some (((usual suspects))) stuck on the pedestal is another story. The inversion of the meaning of the Statue of Liberty from Liberty shining a beacon of liberty to a benighted unfree world into some sick "dump your s...
[22:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:14:58] <exec> 08└─Does that mean Mueller can use waterboarding?
[22:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:00] <exec> 08└─So youre a raging ball of hate. Got it, moving on.
[22:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:02] <exec> 08└─It is funny how you trot out Bbbbut Ooobamaaaa when no one mentioned him or made a comparison. Lots of shit sludes through without gaining national attention, go whatabout somewhere else.
[22:15:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:05] <exec> 08└─Nazi Germany also enforced its laws.
[22:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:07] <exec> 08└─Because your points are tired and lame. There is nothing to discuss, you just want to derail the conversation into an argument about societys evolution.
[22:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:10] <exec> 08└─Wow...rich. The fact that you think any of that means shit says it all. I've got one: Go fuck yourself. Can you figure out who I'm insulting?
[22:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:12] <exec> 08└─I'm don't understand why they think it's an insult. What's wrong with social justice? What's wrong with wanting a more just society? They (jmorris and people who think like him) are so enamoured of the super-wealthy that they can't see that they are merely the useful idiots in the plans made by the...
[22:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:14] <exec> 08└─How are there Americans who aren't bothered by this?
[22:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:17] <exec> 08└─In a world where the vast majority of Nation States were unfree hellholes ruled over by tyrants
[22:15:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:19] <exec> 08└─I'm don't understand why they think it's an insult.
[22:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:22] <exec> 08└─Fat floats. Probably not much good there. *sips coffee*
[22:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:24] <exec> 08└─Your TDS is flaring up again. You can tell by the level of projection and sublimated anger.
[22:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:26] <exec> 08└─It took a super-state[*] to overcome them and declare their laws unjust. Who is going to overcome the USA to judge its laws? [*] A coalition of several countries.
[22:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:28] <exec> 08└─Thomas Sowell? Um, jmorris, you know, he's black! What exact kind of n*********** kyke are you?
[22:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:30] <exec> 08└─So, it's a race thing? Checks out.
[22:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:33] <exec> 08└─There goes that SJW reality again, with its "facts" and well-known liberal bias! Oh, the Huge Manatee!
[22:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:15:35] <exec> 08└─It is funny how you trot out Bbbbut Ooobamaaaa when no one mentioned him or made a comparison.
[22:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:23] <exec> 08└─America used to have the greatest military, we used to be so powerful militarily. We actually used to have a beautiful Naval Base in Kansas. Near Olathe, where there was that terrible shooting. But my predecessors, very foolishly, shut it down. Here we are, protecting Korea. Protecting Japan, German...
[22:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:25] <exec> 08└─but that is hardly an offensive posture they have been holding for half a century.
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[23:13:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Venus’ Thick Atmosphere Speeds Up the Planet's Spin - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:17] <exec> 08└─Venus is pretty much the white person of planets; slow rotation, windy, and influenced by the sun.
[23:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Venus’ Thick Atmosphere Speeds Up the Planet's Spin - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:19] <exec> 08└─Perhaps they are being driven by an electric current. [youtube.com]
[23:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Venus’ Thick Atmosphere Speeds Up the Planet's Spin - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:21] <exec> 08└─So, there's that.
[23:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06This is What Canon's Largest CMOS Sensor Looks Like Next to a DSLR - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:35] <exec> 08└─I've photographed lions (in the wild). During the daytime, they mostly sleep and if you poke them with a stick, they might be bothered enough to roll over and yawn. The closest 'I've ever been to one (in an open land rover) is about half a meter (have video, but no photographs of that encounter).
[23:14:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 170 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:04] <exec> 08└─Those Americans are idiots fueled by hatred against elitist liberals. It is insane how their hatred has blinded them to the trumpster fire burning right in front of them.
[23:14:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NewNic [6420] 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 52 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:56] <exec> 08└─How are there Americans who aren't bothered by this?
[23:15:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:07] <exec> 08└─No, the claim was that enforcing the law is somehow a violation of the principles on which the US was founded as represented by the Statue of Liberty. That claim was wrong! [inthepastlane.com] Your attempts to reframe the argument and hurl insults do not a victory make.
[23:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:08] <exec> 08└─Dumbass lets the point soar above his head. I'm shocked, absolutely SHOCKED that you're too triggered to even comprehend some simple statements. Further solidifies my opinion that discussing anything with Trump supporters or their cousins is just a waste of time. Here is a clue, I'm not arguing agai...
[23:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:10] <exec> 08└─Coffee this late in the day? MADMAN!
[23:15:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:12] <exec> 08└─Also Trump a good Presbyterian boy who dindu nuffin. I read it on his Wiki.
[23:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:15] <exec> 08└─The Fabians’ Beatrice Webb produced the Minority Report to the Poor Law Commission, which helped to herald a welfare state based on the idea of social justice for all. Fabians invented the idea of a national health service. We pioneered comprehensive education. We pioneered the idea of a United Na...
[23:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:17] <exec> 08└─If you can't understand why the massive amount of xenophobia being pushed on to you is a bad thing then you are beyond help. You are being manipulated just like the Germans were manipulated by the Nazis. Ramp up hateful untrue rhetoric to gain popular support for evil shit. Personally I believe you...
[23:15:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:20] <exec> 08└─I thought "WOMP! WOMP!" was the sound of Corey Ledendowski in Federal *******in the*** Prison? You going there, too, jmorris? You see, this is how we got Trump. It is a massive Left wing conspiracy, mostly aimed at taking out the DINOs, the ones who since the Clinton co-option have taken over the D...
[23:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:22] <exec> 08└─Import the Third World, become the Third World.
[23:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:24] <exec> 08└─WHO WANTS SOME?
[23:15:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:26] <exec> 08└─What's wrong with "social justice" is when it becomes a newspeak term appropriated by right-wing authoritarians. I think a more appropriate term to describe the pseudo-left right-wing authoritarianism that gave rise to the alt-right is the ctrl-left. The ctrl-left is in favor of segregation (black o...
[23:15:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:28] <exec> 08└─Teach your kids mandarin.
[23:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:31] <exec> 08└─Sure and Trump, who was not responsible for existing legislation, has just signed an executive order to that effect.
[23:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:33] <exec> 08└─Who made America... what?
[23:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:35] <exec> 08└─So? There is no inconsistency between rejecting blank slate "every racial group (which doesn't even exist according to $current_year doctrine... until you aren't meeting your non-existent hiring quota) is exactly the same as every other in every statistically meaningful way" idiocy and recognizing e...
[23:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:37] <exec> 08└─Guía del Migrante Mexicano translated to English [theamericanresistance.com]. I fail to see much there that is nefarious.
[23:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Withdraws From United Nations Human Rights Council - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:39] <exec> 08└─If you can't understand why the massive amount of xenophobia being pushed on to you is a bad thing then you are beyond help.
[23:15:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:52] <exec> 08└─Translation: nobody, repeat: NOBODY is going to clean up the garbage.They just want to be able to use their own killsats with impunity and avoid the friendly fire. Only the Chinese actually tested a killsat in orbit AFAIK, but you may safely assume the US and Russia have the capability as well.
[23:15:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Space Policy Directive-3 Calls for U.S. to Manage Space Debris - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:53] <exec> 08└─Astronauts eject UK-led space junk demo mission [bbc.com] Literally today.
[23:17:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Pentagon Confirms Halt of War Games With South Korea - 178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:19] <exec> 08└─The world can't wait for you to step up and show everybody how it's done. I count two sentences with proper punctuation and spelling and no blatant lies. So, he kinda just did...
[23:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Employee Charged In Leak Of Classified Hacking Tools - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:02] <exec> 08└─this is the kind of person the government hires for sensitive positions after an exhaustive background check?
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