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[00:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:21] <exec> 08└─It's called an air well. https://en.wikipedia.org(condenser) [wikipedia.org]
[00:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03SemperOSS [5072] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:22] <exec> 08└─At last some scientist has read Frank Herbert's Dune and acted upon it.
[00:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:25] <exec> 08└─I think they're using a different and more compact technology that the Fremen had. IIUC the Fremen technology was basically based around cooling air until it reached its dew point.
[00:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:45] <exec> 08└─I see you've finally started to grow a healthy skepticism bone. Good On Ya. Their head surgeries were performed mostly on crazy people, for which they could find no other cure, but who were otherwise healthy. Civil War surgeries were to remove bullets. Not the same thing. Their statistics came from...
[00:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:46] <exec> 08└─I mostly agree that there were plenty of germs around the Americas pre-Columbus, and Peruvians, Incas et.al. had their own cities with clusters of humans to breed human specific germs, but... I don't think that the American cities were as dense or well connected as the cess-pool commerce centers of...
[00:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:48] <exec> 08└─Could it just be that they had a lot more "volunteers" (or victims) to practice their trepanation on? Lots of human sacrifice -- willing and unwilling, prisoners of war and all kinds of unseemly people that probably didn't mind terribly to die for their Gods (or had a choice). I guess they could hav...
[00:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:51] <exec> 08└─I'm also wondering: did they know "wash your hands" worked better than "Next! No...the blood and gore on my hands will be just fine inside this next body"
[00:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:53] <exec> 08└─I suspect that the main difference was the theory of "laudable pus". Surgeons used to be proud of not washing their hands between patients. Probably that exact preference wasn't followed on a battlefield, but it inspired a lot of associated customs.
[00:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:55] <exec> 08└─There are different groups of actors involved with different goals. At least some pharmaceutical companies actively refuse to investigate something that would result in a cure for something for which there currently exists a treatment. Other health practitioners look avidly for cures...but many of t...
[00:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:57] <exec> 08└─This is usually determined in archaeological finds by whether the bones started to heal. I haven't read this particular article, but I'd assume that was the practice in this study.
[00:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:00] <exec> 08└─Believe me, there's nothing monotonic about Dr. Ben Carson, our greatest brain surgeon!!!!
[00:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:18] <exec> 08└─the database would crawl to a halt from all the writes
[00:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:19] <exec> 08└─I had no idea my husband was sexually abusing me.
[00:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:22] <exec> 08└─"it's a well-understood rule that the guy who's trying to turn a peaceful protest into a riot is 9 times out of 10 an undercover cop."
[00:34:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 92 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:33] <exec> 08└─There's a rumor that BFR's height will be increased to make it taller than Saturn V and SLS.
[00:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The FCC Explicitly Bans Unauthorized Phone Bill Charges - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:34:52] <exec> 08└─Won't matter. Your next bill will just include a tiny boilerplate saying "Paying this bill serves as your acceptance that all charges are authorized charges", or maybe they do another totally useless GDPR-like pop-up on your device saying you authorize the charges, and you need to pay off your phone...
[00:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:19] <exec> 08└─There is a bit of an imbalance there. The FBI (and any other LEO) can and does deliberately lie to you. They are expressly permitted to. If your reply contains anything they can prove untrue, even if in response to their lies, you have committed a chargeable offence. The only rational behaviour is t...
[00:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:50] <exec> 08└─Isn't that why we have all been paying into a federal fund on our phone bill for decades? Then they pirated that off for Schools. Then for budget balances etc. This is broken windows theory all over again. Saddling Amtrak with a boat load of employees forever (while wailing about how inefficient Amt...
[00:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:52] <exec> 08└─Bullshit. A bill that will force Amtrak to employ at least one ticketing agent in every state that it serves. Now what good is one ticketing agent in a state, when you have to GO there to talk to them, possibly weeks ahead of your actual trip. Why can't they just Call Julie [amtrak.com] like everybo...
[00:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:54] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of train over airlines for shorter journeys, and especially for particularly scenic routes and/or routes with a bit of history, but coast-to-coast by train is perhaps a bit much,
[00:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Derf the [4919] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How Much Is Wildlife Tourism Affecting The Animals It Targets? - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:24] <exec> 08└─Just as bad if you ask any Paua (Abalone, but better) fisherman from Stewart Island. Free diving and collecting with a hand held knife is the only legal fishing method for Paua in NZ, so when the commercial White Pointer Feeding-in-the-presents-of-humans-in-the-water operations set up in their fishi...
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[01:33:15] <exec> 08└─Fresh & Delicious KDE Applications for Windows 32+64bit [and other OS] ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### ##### "Welcome to the Binary Factory for KDE. This CI system is intended to generate binary installers for macOS and Windows, as well as AppImages for Linux for the set...
[01:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 1516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:17] <exec> 08└─"How dare you!" "No, how dare you! I can't believe you'd suggest such an evil thing!" Two men could be heard arguing in the park. Each of them were furious enough to scare away most onlookers, and so no one had stopped their heated argument quite yet. What were they arguing about? One man suggested...
[01:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:19] <exec> 08└─Why hasn't Apple made people more aware of this potential violation of their privacy?
[01:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:36] <exec> 08└─You can't harvest enough water from dry air to be worth anything. Extremely simple chemistry equations you probably learned in high school make this quite clear. There is no amount of cleverness that will make it possible to extract meaningful amounts of water from air that doesn't contain much wate...
[01:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:37] <exec> 08└─It's solar. And maybe it wouldn't work in a rain forest. But it works in sunny Arizona. And maybe we'll build it into our magnificent Border Wall!!!!
[01:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:39] <exec> 08└─Using a kilogram of MOF
[01:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:42] <exec> 08└─What would happen if you had thousands or millions of these units collecting water in Arizona or another desert area? Would humidity levels drop semi-permanently?
[01:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:10] <exec> 08└─Ay, makes sense. Thanks!
[01:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:11] <exec> 08└─Even worse, not washing their hands after performing an autopsy. It's also interesting the resistance those surgeons showed against the germ theory of disease.
[01:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:46] <exec> 08└─The phallic competition theory explains these expenditures better than the any gains to scientific understanding. Why not spend this money on unmanned probes which provide actual scientific bang for the buck. Humans aren't going anywhere. Also, is no one disturbed by the incursion of one person's pr...
[01:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:34:48] <exec> 08└─You've been a slave your entire life, so that's nothing new. Spy satellites are going to go up no matter what the cost, SpaceX doesn't change that. And they can already see your shitstained pants from orbit.
[01:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:32] <exec> 08└─The only rational behaviour is to repeat "I invoke my right to remain silent. I want my lawyer." as a response to every question.
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[02:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:25] <exec> 08└─Google does this with Android and with most of their apps. You are supposed to be able to control this tracking , but none of their directions to do so seem to work. The problem seems to that Google has become too big. There are too many different departments overlapping in development and no oversi...
[02:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2, Offtopic) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 740 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:26] <exec> 08└─The human body is like a battery, folks. We're born with a certain amount of energy. When we waste it on exercise, we become VERY SLOW & TIRED. I've always been a great athlete -- I was the best baseball player in New York, the Red Sox were looking at me very seriously. But when the bone spurs hit I...
[02:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:29] <exec> 08└─(cont) So many of my athlete friends -- the ones that exercise, and the ones that don't -- are thinking about Fit Bit. To show off their cyber smarts. And to track their movements for the Social Media. Great to know that iphone can do that too. Thanks Apple, thanks Tim!!!!
[02:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:31] <exec> 08└─but none of their directions to do so seem to work
[02:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:33] <exec> 08└─Now that you are in Singapore, here's your chance -- challenge Rocketman to a few rounds of sumo wrestling! Show him who's boss.
[02:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:36] <exec> 08└─If the phone tracks you, it's pointless to complain that it also calculates where you stay more. The latter is directly derived from the former.
[02:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:56] <exec> 08└─What little wild life and plants there is there, would certainly be affected I would think. Many desert animals rely on air extraction.
[02:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:58] <exec> 08└─Define "meaningful amounts". (See, I'm even giving you a chance to define your own weasel words.). How bout 25 gallons of clean drinking water per day? Does that mean anything to you? https://www.smithsonianmag.com [smithsonianma...
[02:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:00] <exec> 08└─Yep, plus there is this: "Last October, a University of California, Berkeley, team headed down to the Arizona desert, plopped their newest prototype water harvester into the backyard of a tract home and started sucking water out of the air without any power other than sunlight..." Wonder if this tra...
[02:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:02] <exec> 08└─One missing piece of data -- the relative humidity in Arizona isn't all that low, see https://www.currentresults.com [currentresults.com] Average yearly relative humidity (%) Daily Place Morning Afternoon 53 Flagstaff 59 39 37 Phoenix 47 23 38...
[02:34:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03HiThere [866] 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 180 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:29] <exec> 08└─This is usually determined in archaeological finds by whether the bones started to heal. I haven't read this particular article, but I'd assume that was the practice in this study.
[02:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:33] <exec> 08└─between 17 and 25 percent
[02:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:35] <exec> 08└─Last surgery I was in, the surgeon left a bone chip in... clear as anything on the post-op X-ray. After 6 weeks of therapy at his PT clinic (for a wound that should have healed up in 2), osteomyelitis presented to noone's great surprise and I was offered another surgery (after all, you've probably h...
[02:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:37] <exec> 08└─There are still physicians (and even surgeons) who are resistant to hand washing guidelines. The surgeons are in a minority, but in clinical practice it's reversed. Every single credible study ever published finds positive results for caregivers washing their hands between patients, but when you're...
[02:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:40] <exec> 08└─The mantra is "pay for outcome" but that road to progress is going to be long and rocky.
[02:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:42] <exec> 08└─I think Civil War surgeons got all the practice they could handle...
[02:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:19] <exec> 08└─A fully reusable rocket that can deliver 150 tons to low Earth orbit (maybe more with a height increase) certainly advances scientific understanding by allowing for more bang for the buck when launching telescopes and unmanned probes. Try thinking before you comment. hallowed public property
[02:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:20] <exec> 08└─Why not spend this money on unmanned probes which provide actual scientific bang for the buck.
[02:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06SpaceX Plans to Expand Presence at Kennedy Space Center - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:23] <exec> 08└─Also, is no one disturbed by the incursion of one person's private vanity statues onto hallowed public property?
[02:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:06] <exec> 08└─But it doesn't, right? I used to work in PayPal when it was still part of eBay, so I know somethings about how it works. It is eBay's curse that they cater to 2nd-hand market and 2nd-hand market is full of shady sellers and buyers. I know you hate eBay, but let me tell you it is totally dependent on...
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[02:36:40] <exec> 08└─Calm yourself before you have a stroke. Whether you like it or not any service run by the government needs to be able to take cash payments at the point of sale. Just because you want the government and the banking industry to be able to track each and every transaction doesn't mean the rest of us h...
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[03:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:19] <exec> 08└─Fortunately nobody can currently see what's in that particular porn stash except the owner, so you don't need to set up a dead man's script to wipe it when you croak.
[03:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:21] <exec> 08└─[the brain] contains all our memories and thoughts.
[03:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fnord666 [652] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:37] <exec> 08└─This was previously known as Frequent Locations and has been a [businessinsider.com] thing [bgr.com] since 2015 at least. It's even in the same location in the settings menus.
[03:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:02] <exec> 08└─The AC on my house in Arizona has been producing this much water per day at least since 1990. And hey, since I put up some solar panels and a big inverter ten years ago, it has been 100% solar powered. I wouldn't drink the water without filtering it and running it through a UV sanitizer (legionaires...
[03:34:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:04] <exec> 08└─Air wells have been used for thousands of years. The use of MOF is the new bit. https://en.wikipedia.org(condenser)#Zibold%27s_collector [wikipedia.org]
[03:34:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 662 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:45] <exec> 08└─The accuracy of 85% clearly is wrong. What is classified as non-violent today is certainly not classified as non-violent tomorrow. Therefore, the accuracy is 100% for all future violent acts. Just be prepared to defend yourself against the drone evidence. You cannot deny your guilty attitude. You ar...
[03:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:00] <exec> 08└─Some evidence here, but not much data. There are some links... https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[03:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:04] <exec> 08└─Why are the FBI charges "alleged", but his Wannacry "heorism" is stated as fact? I'm no fan of the FBI, but their charges are at least as believable at his self-reporting that "I stumbled on an IP address that stops Wannacry".
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[04:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:15] <exec> 08└─> ...and our city will be linked to Seoul by road," says Li. "Pyongyang would just be a stop on the way." For some reason the line above reminded me of this-- https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Imagine if the novel were set in N. Korea?
[04:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 1131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:24] <exec> 08└─Perhaps. My interpretation is that it does, in fact, contain all the memories, personality, skills, etc of a person. That does not rule out some conscious observer who inhabits the experience of that person yet is independent of it and not destroyed when the brain disappears. However, when inhabitin...
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[04:33:26] <exec> 08└─This website is going whack. Fuck you, I guess? Are you editors thinking?
[04:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:29] <exec> 08└─Not the AC but humans have another big bunch of neurons elsewhere: https://www.scientificamerican.com [scientificamerican.com] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org [hopkinsmedicine.org] So it's unlikely that the brain co...
[04:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:31] <exec> 08└─I am sure the emaciated Jews in the concentration camps were "strangely beautiful."
[04:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:14] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't make a difference unless they were inside a climate controlled house. There are trillions of tons of water in the atmosphere.
[04:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:15] <exec> 08└─It's possible to pull water out of the air, just not as much as that KS indicated and not with so little energy. Personally, I can't see how they could possibly do this in a way that's efficient enough to be worthwhile. At a certain point, having cities in certain areas is just not viable. I'm also...
[04:34:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 286 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:23] <exec> 08└─In Incan times, the mortality rate was between 17 and 25 percent, and during the Civil War, it was between 46 and 56 percent. That's a big difference. The question is how did the ancient Peruvian surgeons have outcomes that far surpassed those of surgeons during the American Civil War?
[04:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:17] <exec> 08└─And why should we expect balance? It's not like law enforcement is a sporting match where it doesn't matter who wins. If it's the FBI vs. criminals, society wants the FBI to win and fairness doesn't apply. Of course it's unclear who is criminal and we don't want a police state, so it's better that t...
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[05:33:42] <exec> 08└─they bayesians were upset with the frequentist locations, so adjusted their prior significants
[05:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:11] <exec> 08└─Yup, we're pretty much in "windmills stop the winds" orders of magnitude.
[05:34:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:47] <exec> 08└─No - the rules as they stand are simple, easily understood and consistent. It's like speaking in a public forum - once we have spoken, the words are out. There is always an opportunity to later issue a correction or retraction. When I reply to a post I am replying on the basis of what I have seen wr...
[05:34:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:49] <exec> 08└─surgeon left a bone chip in... clear as anything on the post-op X-ray
[05:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:51] <exec> 08└─isn't the mortality rate of those patients recovered by grave robbers closer to 100%
[05:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:36:51] <exec> 08└─Telstra still manages to service* all of Australia. Yeah, it costs them, but they do it (because they're forced to). *) Commence commentary about use of "Telstra" and "service" in the same sentence.
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[06:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:11] <exec> 08└─constipation, dehydration. And the list goes on. Sounds like fun! Like everything, if you eat too much of it, you get sick (even carrots) https://www.webmd.com [webmd.com] https://www.telegraph.co.uk
[06:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:13] <exec> 08└─It can also block the oral meds if they are prescribed or urgently needed on emergency basis.
[06:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:15] <exec> 08└─It actually is healthy in the right circumstances. For example if you're a raw water fan you can pack the length of your throat with activated charcoal and reproduce the effect of drinking tap water by running your raw water through it. Healthy plus healthy must mean extra healthy, right?
[06:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:17] <exec> 08└─In a January interview with Imbibe, Bittermens founder Avery Glasser joked that he was going to make an activated charcoal cocktail called “See Ya In Nine Months,” referring to its potential to produce an unplanned pregnancy.
[06:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:26] <exec> 08└─I'm going to say, denuke. Denuclearize. And I'll bring you the most MAGNIFICENT five-star hotel. Like you've never seen in your entire life. Pyongyang, they have a building called the Ryugyong Hotel. Left over from Soviet times, never finished, very sad shape -- but it's their tallest building. And...
[06:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:29] <exec> 08└─And you could stop on the way to your Roadside Attraction for a Roadside Picnic [wikipedia.org].
[06:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:28] <exec> 08└─Yes, plus there's this rebuttal for at least one of those schemes/scams: https://www.youtube.com
[06:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03qzm [3260] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:07] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you can also comment on why the study is comparing what are almost certainly severe trauma patients (civil war cases) with that are most likely religious/psychological patients (peru) who were most likely in otherwise good health? My assumption is that they wanted to push some preconception...
[06:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:34] <exec> 08└─I know you hate eBay
[06:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilPapa [2366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Valve Still Lives in the Waking Nightmare of Web 2.0 - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:40:16] <exec> 08└─Why would you have an expectation that your post would end up on their website otherwise? Valve has pretty low hurdles for game publishing once you get past the censored subjects. Breibart has a very restrictive conditions on what they public even once you get past the ideological bias.
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[07:33:17] <exec> 08└─They make it in a pill, they call it the fart pill. I took it on Cinco de Mayo because I ate A LOT of Hispanic. And Hispanic makes you fart. Makes you go "TRUMP!" As everybody knows. Let me tell you, it was NOT GREAT. Going to try the probiotic!!!
[07:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:19] <exec> 08└─I've had it as a "diy" remedy from crushed aquarium filter bricks after eating something with veggies that had been sprayed by a nasty herbicide. It worked. This is just like chewing gum and laxative properties or any acidic food and ulcer risks. All the risks are tied to a big consumption.
[07:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:29] <exec> 08└─I'd just like to add that for any Koreans interesting in meeting the Dear Leader Who is a Perfect Incarnation of the Appearance That a Leader Should Have, I can arrange it for a mere $100,000 campaign contribution. I'll even throw in a meeting with Kim Jong-un at no cost.
[07:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 2113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:42] <exec> 08└─I was being Palmer then, and Norris, and dog. I gathered around with the other biomass and watched as Copper cut me open and pulled out my insides. I watched as he dislodged something from behind my eyes: an organ of some kind. It was malformed and incomplete, but its essentials were clear enough. I...
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[07:37:12] <exec> 08└─I thought I'd implied that I already have - and a few cruises like Hurtigruten's route up the coast of Norway - but they've all generally been extremely scenic pretty much throughout. I've spent a fair bit of time in the interior of the US, covering over a dozen states from border to border by road...
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[08:33:17] <exec> 08└─"How dare you!" "No, how dare you! I can't believe you'd suggest doing such a disgusting thing!" Two men could be heard arguing in the park. Each of them were furious enough to scare away most onlookers, and so no one had stopped their heated argument quite yet. This continued for a few more minutes...
[08:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:30] <exec> 08└─As a bonus, you don't get any of that pesky fluoride you find in tap water. Also, would it distill the water, effectively turning it into something that will suck the salt out of your body? Or are salts and other minerals too small (?) to be removed by activated charcoal?
[08:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:32] <exec> 08└─You ate a lot of Hispanic? So, THAT'S WHY you're not going after the illegals. You're eating them. Is it still cannibalism when and orange guy eats browns?
[08:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 1545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:34] <exec> 08└─"How dare you!" "No, how dare you! I can't believe you'd suggest doing such a disgusting thing!" Two men could be heard arguing in the park. Each of them were furious enough to scare away most onlookers, and so no one had stopped their heated argument quite yet. This continued for a few more minutes...
[08:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 1020 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:45] <exec> 08└─In the imho unlikely event that Kim Jong-un is not merely toying with western leaders, it still spells mostly bad news for the people of North Korea. If relations between the DPRK and the west stabilize, the chance of deposing that absolute abomination of a human being becomes much smaller. I don't...
[08:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:46] <exec> 08└─I've looked at the article and somewhat understand how these MOFs look like, but what I would like to see is how safe these compounds are.
[08:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:34:48] <exec> 08└─Using a kilogram of MOF[*], they were able to capture about 7 ounces of water
[08:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Project Fusion: Tor Integration With Firefox May Finally be Happening - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:38:17] <exec> 08└─I want to think of Firefox as the browser for the security & privacy minded
[08:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Valve Still Lives in the Waking Nightmare of Web 2.0 - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:40:38] <exec> 08└─The degree to which people on this thread go along with this SJW language and concepts is shocking and gay.
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[09:33:14] <exec> 08└─it did take quite a while for it to actually happen. I guess they would have recommended something if it had taken much longer. I think that's when I felt the most useless that I've ever felt... (we're fine, subsequent pregnancies gave us two healthy and exhausting boys).
[09:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:37] <exec> 08└─If you want black poo, just drink plenty of Guinness, preferably in Ireland. No charcoal required, and it's good for you (tried and tested for generations). I remember an Irish colleague from years ago, who wouldn't drink Guinness in England because it's not the proper stuff, saying "I hate this ***...
[09:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03pvanhoof [4638] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:02] <exec> 08└─And it might not be true. We have in our intestins a autonomous nervous system. "The ENS is also called the second brain." https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] The enteric nervous system has been described as a "second brain" for several reasons. The enteric nervous s...
[09:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:52] <exec> 08└─"About" makes it also sound very scientific. Could've been 6 ounce, could've been 8. I dunno exactly.
[09:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 2667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:33] <exec> 08└─It took a while. Read about the sad story of Ignaz Semmelweis [wikipedia.org], the Austrian physician who determined that if the attending physician washed his hands before attending to a women in childbirth, the woman was significantly less likely to die of puerperal fever. He was ignored. Oliver W...
[09:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:34] <exec> 08└─Bone heals and remodels at a reasonably well quantified rate as long as the person is alive. By examining the edges of the hole it is possible to come up with a reasonable estimate of how long the person lived after the hole was made.
[09:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:57] <exec> 08└─Well, I can name the 9 for you. Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, Bob Lambert, and Bob Lambert.
[09:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:05] <exec> 08└─When prosecutors and DAs start worrying about convicting the guilty rather than racking up a high score, I will start believing it is not a game.
[09:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:42] <exec> 08└─I know that in China specifically, train travel is still a normal way of traveling between cities and the government spends a lot of time and money keeping it that way.
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[10:33:16] <exec> 08└─My backpack containing a stick with my project's complete svn tree just got stolen. Can you set me up with a pistol? I understand that's far quicker than using this handy rope I presently have at my disposal.
[10:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSF Supports Development of New Nationwide Data Storage Network - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:24] <exec> 08└─but to enable academics to use each others' computers without having to actually visit these computers in person. However that often required them to FTP huge data sets to those other computers. While far less costly than plane fare is was slow as well as a heavy drain on the ARPANET's scarce resour...
[10:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:41] <exec> 08└─A modest current is applied beneath buried pipes and some distance away, with that current flowing through the ground. It's polarity is such that it prevents galvanic corrosion. So just reverse that current. Have A Nice Day! :)
[10:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 1728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:42] <exec> 08└─I was in the Emergency Room a while back for what turned out to be Hyponatremia that was caused by my Psychogenic Polydipsia. Hyponatremia is a potentially deadly deficiency of sodium ion in one's blood. It can be cause by drinking too much water in a very short time. A fraternity pledge died of a h...
[10:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:44] <exec> 08└─Digested blood is black. It makes sense to ban the sale of charcoal in restaurants because eating it would lead a cancer victim to think he was just fine and so didn't need to see a doctor.
[10:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:47] <exec> 08└─Ahh, the art of true, skillful trolling. How I've missed it.
[10:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:49] <exec> 08└─Talk to your doctor if you eat coal. Every. Single. Day.
[10:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:00] <exec> 08└─I want to see Kim Jong-un die a slow, agonizing death, in public view for his victims. I'd risk my life to have a realistic chance of having that come to pass.
[10:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:15] <exec> 08└─This, followed by NK adjacent Real Estate? Mike Pence, is that you?
[10:38:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Could Become the Second Country to Legalize Mitochondrial Replacement Therapy - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:08] <exec> 08└─Hrmmm, If I edited my hair to make myself a ginger would I still be my parents child? (Probably not once I was disowned I suppose)
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[11:33:14] <exec> 08└─A load of boulder dash, this Dr Levy has run the gauntlet of a manic if minor campaign as if he were a football manager rather than a member of the elite. Perhaps he can super hang on with a deus ex machina great escape but should also consider going back to skool.
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[11:33:15] <exec> 08└─Other than T-Shirts with my original drawings [warplife.com] on them, I don't have a clue what to offer as crowdfunding swag. I've been building out The Global Computer Employer Index [soggy.jobs] to demonstrate to journalists and to potential funders that it's not just vaporware. There are about te...
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[11:33:32] <exec> 08└─> FTP huge data sets ... datasets that could exceed ten million bytes in some extreme cases.
[11:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:54] <exec> 08└─Also, would it distill the water, effectively turning it into something that will suck the salt out of your body?
[11:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:56] <exec> 08└─I remember an Irish colleague from years ago, who wouldn't drink Guinness in England because it's not the proper stuff, saying "I hate this **** English beer, makes your shit brown".
[11:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:58] <exec> 08└─I ate A LOT of Hispanic.
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[11:34:11] <exec> 08└─I suspect this is just more of that "anti-trump blindness". Peace with north korea is actually bad because Kim Jong Un is evil, china, etc. Stock market being up is actually bad since the crash will only be bigger later. Super Corps bringing money back from overseas and investing in the US is actual...
[11:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:27] <exec> 08└─Yea, I'd say with 100% certainty that the claim "*all* memories are stored in the brain" is wrong. Unless you want to start doing stuff like using a circular definition of memory.
[11:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:45] <exec> 08└─> iPhone Always Tracks your Movements > The feature can be disabled, and history of data collected can be deleted So which is it? Always, or "By default"? I've just checked my phone, and it's set to "Off". The cell network is keeping track of where I am and I have no control over that other than tur...
[11:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:00] <exec> 08└─I would be most unamused to find that my reply (some minutes later) was invalidated by an edit between the time I hit "reply" and the time I hit "submit". (What are we going to do - lock posts whilst ever there is a reply pending? For how long?)
[11:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:02] <exec> 08└─If you're responding to something specific, it's always a good idea to: quote
[11:36:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 489 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:18] <exec> 08└─If citizens in general have use of this technology, they'll have a much easier time identifying the police agents provocateur in crowd the cops want to beat up, whose job is to create a violent disturbance so that the cops have an excuse to attack the crowd. Among activist types, it's a well-underst...
[11:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Could Become the Second Country to Legalize Mitochondrial Replacement Therapy - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:38:25] <exec> 08└─> I mean, the Earth is already overcrowded Just out of interest, what is your justification for this statement?
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[12:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:14] <exec> 08└─social media influencers
[12:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NSF Supports Development of New Nationwide Data Storage Network - 990 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:39] <exec> 08└─... it's the metadata and indexing that's important. Without a well-defined way to represent the contents of the datasets and a way to effectively search them, all the data storage in the world is useless by anyone outside your group. If I have a simple dataset of time vs temperature for my area, th...
[12:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:04] <exec> 08└─Someone I know is somewhat hyponatremic. A pair of motivated nephrologists prescribed Ure-Na. Perhaps you've heard of it, tried it? How did you find an "uncommonly diligent" doctor?
[12:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:06] <exec> 08└─Is it still cannibalism when an orange guy eats browns?
[12:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03pvanhoof [4638] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:36] <exec> 08└─It's for example possible that when you ate something wrong, and you felt terrible because of it, that in future your body reminds you of the past experience not merely using the memory of the brain in your skull but also using its enteric nervous system. Implying, basically, that 'my stomach is try...
[12:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:29] <exec> 08└─Clearly a windtrap (I'm biased, of course).
[12:36:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:13] <exec> 08└─Surely the surgeon would have corrected that as a matter of professional pride?
[12:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:14] <exec> 08└─As someone else already noticed, drilling a hole in their skull during or just after battle when you have a pile of patients isn't really the same as being able to take your time. So conditions probably do matter.
[12:36:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Muad'Dave [1413] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:17] <exec> 08└─I didn't RTFA, but I assume you could at least get a decent idea of the mortality rate by comparing skulls with trepanation holes with no bone regrowth at the margins (died) vs those that did (survived some amount of time).
[12:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:39] <exec> 08└─This font tells we need a movie about future crime boss Al Drone.
[12:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:41] <exec> 08└─As in, you don't believe that that's a police tactic in use right now? Here's some undercover cops in Canada getting caught [thestar.com]. Here's the Brits doing the same thing [theguardian.com]. Here's an in-depth look at the US efforts to use this tactic [thenation.com]. Here's an admission of it...
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[13:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:17] <exec> 08└─Start by sending Friend Requests to everyone you know. Allow some time for them to respond. Then point out to them that there is far far more to the Internet than just Facebook. A survey found that many people think Facebook and the Internet are the same thing. I met my lady on Facebook. She only ow...
[13:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:18] <exec> 08└─He had to start paying Twitter when he reached 20,000 followers. That was five or ten years ago. He's an activist for the bisexual, polyamourous, progress political and computer communities. Some of his followers follow _me_ now. To snarf some of his computer industry followers turned about to requi...
[13:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:11] <exec> 08└─Speaking of Asians, why do Japanese girls squeak when they are getting railed in their pornos? They sound like a dog's chew toy.
[13:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:12] <exec> 08└─Charcoal is the closest thing in real-life to Harry Potter's bezoar [wikia.com]. The same qualities that make charred oak casks [vinepair.com] effective at "smoothing" the taste of whiskey and activated charcoal fish tank filters help to keep the imprisoned fish healthy. It's physical structure acts...
[13:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:15] <exec> 08└─I only eat the tinned version, sir. Always best when you get your coal in can, sir.
[13:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:17] <exec> 08└─You mean 8 as in while having 6?
[13:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:19] <exec> 08└─A member of what used to be kuro5hin.org. Her nick was mariahkillschickens. At the time she was an Emergency Room resident in Buffalo New York. She treated a Schizophrenic patient who kept demanding to be permitted to urinate. He clearly wasn't diabetic so she investigated further. Had he been diabe...
[13:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:33] <exec> 08└─When you hear of aggressive speculation like this, you have to ask, does it exist because enough people know something or because enough people don't? Wouldn't be hard, for example, for a few politicians or bureaucrats in the know to start buying, or for someone already owning a lot of property to s...
[13:35:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:10] <exec> 08└─They renamed it for the usual reason of software and business renaming to avoid the negativity associated with the previous name?
[13:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:11] <exec> 08└─How do you know your personal data is actually deleted? We live in an age where data is the new gold.
[13:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:33] <exec> 08└─Soylentnews can't even get paging right. If you move back to previous, dated pages you'll see they contain posts from neighboring days. How about they fix the tiny things before they try something major like changing how posting works.
[13:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:59] <exec> 08└─What a good way to get even or revenge or just piss off someone you hate
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[13:37:00] <exec> 08└─In other news, in January 2020 India deployed over one million Real-Time Drone Surveillance System units to cover major Indian cities specifically targeting eve teasers and rapists. By March 2020 over 8 million individuals had been identified as sex offenders including a quarter of India's parliamen...
[13:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The FCC Explicitly Bans Unauthorized Phone Bill Charges - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:36] <exec> 08└─is that legal cause some employers try the same thing and find that yes their employee can take them to court usually on the grounds that said contract is not valid
[13:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:10] <exec> 08└─If it's the FBI vs. criminals, society wants the FBI to win
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[14:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:15] <exec> 08└─Not only is labor participation at the lowest rate in 40 years, labor participation rate has been stagnant for the entirety of the 2010s. There is a Greatest Recession on, whether you want to believe it or not.
[14:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 1203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:16] <exec> 08└─It's the same kind of thing that has been true in job markets forever: when times are good, it's easy to get a job. If you get laid off (though no personal fault), it's usually due to difficult economic circumstances for your employer, their field, or as often the broader market. Ergo: when you get...
[14:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:18] <exec> 08└─First, it means that you can save up during good years for the bad ones. You should be doing that anyway, but I'm not your mother. Second, it illustrates one of the benefits of recessions. Namely, that it's a time when businesses figure out how to do their business better (and/or get out of the way...
[14:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:29] <exec> 08└─It is not Presidential -- it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL. Make America Great Again!
[14:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:39] <exec> 08└─You commie bastard! Giving people things for free! How dare you undermine our great american way?
[14:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:41] <exec> 08└─This doesn't make any sense. The mockup of the device they proposed to produce does indeed look like a 'console' but the ZX Spectrum was a general purpose computer. Chiclet keys but a keyboard nonetheless. How is this fatally keyboardless 'console' relate to the ZX Spectrum, and why should I care? A...
[14:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Drug Combination Offers More Effective Care For Patients Suffering Miscarriage - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:51] <exec> 08└─@VP [twitter.com] Pence says those drugs are abortion pills. RU-486 and the other. So important to our wonderful young ladies. But our taxpayers won't pay for them. Hyde Amendment!!!!
[14:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:33] <exec> 08└─Does a local health department have the right to tell you what you can eat, when the national authority in charge, the FDA, has not prohibited it. Should it?
[14:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:35] <exec> 08└─Part of me hates to say (type) it, but you're making the strong case for AI replacing doctors. IBM Watson, are you listening? Of course you are.
[14:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:37] <exec> 08└─The People - the state - the federal government for all matters interstate That's the chain of command.
[14:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:39] <exec> 08└─If you insist that only national authorities can take certain actions, then those actions will only be taken at massive scale with no testing at smaller scales first. Or not at all. I'm guessing you're pulling for the latter, Mr. Regulatory Capture.
[14:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:42] <exec> 08└─They're not telling anybody what they can and can't eat. They're telling people what they can and can't serve to customers. Those are very different things. But, then again, small government people tend to be complete dipshits that will put random things in their mouths because freedom. It's somewha...
[14:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:44] <exec> 08└─It's what plants crave.
[14:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:46] <exec> 08└─Does a local health department have the right to tell you what you can eat, when the national authority in charge, the FDA, has not prohibited it. Should it?
[14:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:49] <exec> 08└─Go away, 'baitin!
[14:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:14] <exec> 08└─My guess (without reading TFA) is 200 g of water. This is 7.055 oz.
[14:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:03] <exec> 08└─They probably look for signs of healing of the skull. If there is significant healing, the patient probably survived the trepanation, if not, the patient died shortly after the trepanation (not sure whether they can infer that cause of death was the procedure itself).
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[15:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:22] <exec> 08└─The release notes don't say what changed. Is there a summary of the changes? The editor edited out the question.
[15:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:23] <exec> 08└─Devuan 1 was based on Jessie, and this new version is based on the Stretch, so it gets updated version of all packages. I think that's what is relevant for most users. I'm giving Gentoo a try now, but I'll probably get back to Devuan on the next reinstall.
[15:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:26] <exec> 08└─One big change, ZFS on root is now supported in the ASCII repository--so there's less dicking around to make that work. Also, Java 8 is in the ASCII repository but not in the Jessie repository (minecraft is the reason I know this). I've been meaning to upgrade, this looks like a good reason to apt-g...
[15:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:36] <exec> 08└─First, it means that you can save up during good years for the bad ones. You should be doing that anyway, but I'm not your mother.
[15:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:38] <exec> 08└─Advice which makes sense only if the base rate is above inflation.
[15:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:40] <exec> 08└─Now let's here how lack of personal responsibility is really the root of all problems and the virtue of personal responsibility will protect from these dire straits,
[15:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:42] <exec> 08└─Arguments don't become less true just because they've been said before.
[15:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:44] <exec> 08└─Advice which makes sense only if the base rate is above inflation.
[15:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:47] <exec> 08└─You can't store money you don't have. And an awful lot of the jobs that are going away due to robots and efficiency gains are minimum wage jobs. It never ceases to amaze me how people that are doing well seem to believe that everybody has the same situation. For an increasing share of the total jobs...
[15:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:49] <exec> 08└─And where does somebody making minimum wage get that money to invest you fucking moron. This advice is well and good if you happen to be well off, but a larger and larger share of Americans works a minimum wage job with no benefits and falling further and further behind as the cost of living continu...
[15:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:51] <exec> 08└─They also don't become more true just by repeating them over and over again. Most people aren't saving their money because they don't have any to save. The cost of living has increased massively when compared with the rate at which pay has increased. We've got asshats like Bezos hoarding huge sums o...
[15:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:53] <exec> 08└─Awww but khallow's ideology requires that we ignore anything that doesn't back up the ol bootstrap and save fiscal responsibility trope. Khallow and friends have swallowed the koolaid and are the greater barrier to effexting change.
[15:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:56] <exec> 08└─So what? Economic activity (not growth) is not the ultimate goal of an economy.
[15:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:58] <exec> 08└─Ya, khallow will be one of the ones with their backs against the wall. No one appreciates apologists of evil. Almost moreso when such apologies are shrouded in suppised common sense.
[15:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:00] <exec> 08└─But but but those poor people are all buying the latest iphones and signingbup for luxury car payments!!! And they have cheap high qualuty TVs! How can they complain when they live better than medievsl kings????????? /s just in case
[15:34:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:02] <exec> 08└─For an increasing share of the total jobs, the pay is below what it costs to live and still have money left over at the end of the month for frivolous things like emergency savings and health care.
[15:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:05] <exec> 08└─> The cost of living has increased massively when compared with the rate at which pay has increased. I always struggle with the "cost of living" arguments that float around. When I was poor (student) I quite happily lived off GBP 5k per annum. Even subtracting off a bit of sponging off parents and s...
[15:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:07] <exec> 08└─Awww but khallow's ideology requires that we ignore anything that doesn't back up the ol bootstrap and save fiscal responsibility trope.
[15:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:09] <exec> 08└─There is no discussion with a brainwashed fool, the call to discuss ideas is just more bullshit to try and make yourself appear reasonable and open to better ideas. Ive read enough of your opinions to know it is a waste of time.
[15:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:11] <exec> 08└─I think the real truth that can be explored when comparing those with to those without might be summed up as: "What would you do for $10?" If you've got a million in the bank and 20K coming in per month, probably nothing at all - it's a waste of your time to even think about it If you're homeless an...
[15:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:14] <exec> 08└─10 years is a long time, right around the time of the depression. Things changed drastically afterwards. Also, in the UK you dont have to worry about medical costs, and being a young student is one of the only times you can afford to live so cheaply. Your solution is that fsmilies should pack in 3x...
[15:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:33] <exec> 08└─RMS once pointed out to me that "Information doesn't want to be free. Information doesn't want to be anything." He's always been quite pedantic about the importance of correct language. So I replaced "info wants..." in an essay I wrote with "It's not because Information wants to be Free, but because...
[15:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:33] <exec> 08└─Guru meditation & lp0 on fire
[15:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:35] <exec> 08└─Okay. On the subject of yummy gritty charcoal, we assume that the national authority in charge, the FDA*, has not prohibited it
[15:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:37] <exec> 08└─small government people tend to...fight hardest against any effort to limit the unsafe things
[15:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:39] <exec> 08└─Activated charcoal does have a major medical usage: first response to poison ingestion. So if you consider your medication poison, grab some activated charcoal! https://en.wikipedia.org(medication) [wikipedia.org]
[15:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Remarkable Skill of Ancient Peru's Cranial Surgeons - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:54] <exec> 08└─signs of healing of the skull...: if not, the patient died shortly after the trepanation (not sure whether they can infer that cause of death was the procedure itself).
[15:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Marcus Hutchins, WannaCry-Killer, Hit With Four New Charges by the FBI - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:32] <exec> 08└─It also end up sounding like it went something like this: FBI: He's guily Marcus: I'm not. FBI: He's guily, and now he's lying!
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[16:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:17] <exec> 08└─Nothing will impress a date more than being able to whip out a PowerPoint presentation of your latest trip to the comic book convention.
[16:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:18] <exec> 08└─"Are you pleased to see me or is that a projector in your pocket"?
[16:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:20] <exec> 08└─Just whip it out.
[16:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:31] <exec> 08└─Is it possible to run a KDE desktop on it without systemd? I haven't been following the metasticization.
[16:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03zoward [4734] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:34] <exec> 08└─...so old it wouldn't support the hardware I wanted to run it on without rolling a custom kernel. Now that ASCII's released I'll be installing it on my home server first chance I get. Congrats to the Devuan team for reaching the next milestone!
[16:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:36] <exec> 08└─I subscribe to Xfce and MATE desktop enviroments. My last foray into KDE was Slackware 13.37--so, I have no idea about anything current. Though you might be in luck. According to the Devuan website [devuan.org], the default is Xfce, but it can run Cinnamon, KDE, LXQt, and MATE without any special mo...
[16:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:38] <exec> 08└─updated version of all packages.... that's what is relevant for most users.
[16:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:07] <exec> 08└─GENIUS!! "Simply dont work for that low of pay or figure out how to lower your cost of living" ha!! Id like you to go visit Compton in LA and spread your wisdom. Please, bring the wisdom of fiscal responsibility to a neighborhood in need!
[16:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 1430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:08] <exec> 08└─I made it through two years of graduate school on $16K USD income plus another $3-4K sponge off of my parents (insurance, gifts, etc.) and that not only paid for my food, shelter, education and transportation, it also financed long overseas vacations in the summers. What it did not do was save ANYTH...
[16:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:11] <exec> 08└─Obviously a Slytherin.
[16:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:13] <exec> 08└─Which it is for the stock market
[16:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:15] <exec> 08└─If through individual responsibility (or merely foresight), they had saved a bunch of money during good times, then the bad times would be lessened.
[16:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:18] <exec> 08└─It isn't hypothetical, it happens to a lot of people. I'm sure you knew that, but when you use "hypothetical" you give people a way to pretend reality is different than it is.
[16:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:20] <exec> 08└─But you don't understand. It's the victim's fault!
[16:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:31] <exec> 08└─Sure. I read that 20 years ago, except it said 'AOL' instead of Facebook. I'm old enough now to accept that if the world wants to disappear up its own ass, like an Escher drawing in the style of Bosch, then I am powerless to prevent it. So I'll pass, thanks.
[16:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:32] <exec> 08└─Social Media Influencers are the new Multi-Level Marketers. If your friend is a Social Media Influencer, he is not your friend.
[16:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:35] <exec> 08└─You think the economy, global warming, overpopulation, liberals, commies, conservatives, are a problem? Just think what would happen, if a large asteroid were to hit the earth. Most of those problems would be moot or much more limited in influence. I believe in God, but for Atheists extinction level...
[16:34:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:46] <exec> 08└─People also like Coffee Mugs and USB Drives.
[16:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:51] <exec> 08└─Is it still cannibalism when and orange guy eats browns?
[16:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:52] <exec> 08└─And for that, they can squat on my activated charcoal finger.
[16:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:54] <exec> 08└─There's a number of useful things that you can do with Activated Charcoal. I just wouldn't have listed Ice Cream ingredient as a good one. It also goes down the gullet like a mud pie. No, not the delicious chocolate pie. The one made of dirt. It's great for soaking up bad things in your stomach and...
[16:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:26] <exec> 08└─There are some studies that indicate that microbes can influence your gut to influence your brain: https://www.scientificamerican.com [scientificamerican.com] There are also some correlations between gut microbes and behavior but the cause-effec...
[16:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:27] <exec> 08└─... and see how many people reply 'Eugh! What's that?'
[16:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:29] <exec> 08└─That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. I know some of you are going to say "I did look it up, and that's not true." That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in...
[16:37:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:26] <exec> 08└─Obviously, they mean Arizonan Imperial Ounces.
[16:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:27] <exec> 08└─How big does a MOF have to be before it becomes a Grand MOF?
[16:40:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dltaylor [4693] 02 - 06Senator Makes Amtrak Hire Ticket Agents Because 30% of West Virginia Lacks Internet - 232 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:02] <exec> 08└─He should force the scamming telecoms to quit padding their bottom lines and build out the rural lines for which they have been collecting money. 30 years in prison for the execs and Boards of Directors for fraud sounds about right.
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[17:33:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:12] <exec> 08└─feature
[17:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:13] <exec> 08└─The Global Warming Hoax is #FakeNews planted in the media by Crooked Hiliary. MAGA!
[17:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:15] <exec> 08└─Better hope not. At least if it's man-made we can do something about it. Some of those natural warming cycles have been pretty nasty in the past.
[17:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:18] <exec> 08└─Getting real tired of these big oil CROOKS drilling on the moon for PROFIT and destroying the beautiful lunar atmosphere. It seems pretty widely accepted that things are getting warmer and all the arguing comes down to the cause. What I always had a problem with was not that there is man caused warm...
[17:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:20] <exec> 08└─The natural cooling cycles were pretty nasty too - just sayin...
[17:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:22] <exec> 08└─Astronauts with Apollo 15 and 17 drilled holes into the lunar surface, up to depths of 2.3 metres, and probes measured the temperature at several depths in the holes. These were long-term experiments, left in place after the astronauts departed, and transmitting data back to Earth.
[17:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Freeman [732] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:33] <exec> 08└─Projectors aren't a mainstream media consumption device. TVs have better picture at a fraction of the cost. Size used to be the main difference, but now you can get a 65" TV for $500. A portable projectable display that doesn't take up much space, but has poor quality in bright light. Yeah, everyone...
[17:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:35] <exec> 08└─Sad to discover it was a pocket projector, not a pocket protector.
[17:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:49] <exec> 08└─Devuan, on the other hand, now includes packages from non-free right on the install media and silently installs them by default if it can match non-free firmware or support packages to the target install hardware.
[17:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:50] <exec> 08└─Yes. I've been running a machine with Devuan Ascii + KDE since the beta came out, and it works fine. I had to do some d*cking around with dbus/consolekit conf files in order to make reboot& shutdown work properly, though. Don't know if they've fixed that for the actual release.
[17:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:52] <exec> 08└─Devuan...now includes packages from non-free... on the [official] install media
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[17:34:10] <exec> 08└─They also don't become more true just by repeating them over and over again. Most people aren't saving their money because they don't have any to save. The cost of living has increased massively when compared with the rate at which pay has increased. We've got asshats like Bezos hoarding huge sums o...
[17:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:29] <exec> 08└─> I know it's free in the UK, but bear with our backwards economics for a moment) They started charging for university in the UK. I was in the first wave, and fought to stop them charging - almost got thrown out for it. > car, Car is a luxury in UK for most students. But we have a different infrastr...
[17:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 745 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:30] <exec> 08└─I didn't really get that sense from reading it. I figured it was a sarcastic jab at the whole notion of "personal responsibility" when compared to the real economic conditions the working class faces. (Especially consider the advantage somebody in his scenario would have if, instead of getting loans...
[17:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:32] <exec> 08└─You are doing i wrong and now you are angry and flinging ad hominems. You need to challenge opponents statements by determining where are the boundaries within which they hold true, so that you and the opponent can agree upon the model. Then, you together determine if the boundaries have been crosse...
[17:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:35] <exec> 08└─because some rich people on Wall Street were extremely irresponsible
[17:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:37] <exec> 08└─> First, it means that you can save up during good years for the bad ones. You should be doing that anyway, but I'm not your mother. Pulling a comment up the thread, and editing... I was doing "back-of-the-envelope" style calculation. For south of england (relatively expensive). For a family 2 adult...
[17:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 2965 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:39] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure at what time or place accommodation in central London was possible at £5k a year (assuming you mean zone 1 when you say "central") but I've been living in the big smoke for over 20 years and never managed to spend so little except when I was in student halls. I was lucky enough to be a...
[17:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:42] <exec> 08└─I know three people who figured out they don't need to work to maintain their lifestyle. Own a house, get a roommate to pay all the bills. One got appendicitis, but it was covered by medicaid. Another finally went back to work, but found that her work health plan wasn't as good as medicaid she was g...
[17:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:44] <exec> 08└─Sorry, not an American, who is the issuer of student loans, and what is the collateral? From the story it seems like you can never default on the student loan, is that right? Is such an arrangement you can' get out of even legal, constitutional? What happens to you if you just never pay anything bac...
[17:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:46] <exec> 08└─Half the population is not competent to manage their own money. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] A Global Financial Literacy Test Finds That Just 57% Of Adults In U.S. Are Financially Literate https://www.forbes.com
[17:34:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:48] <exec> 08└─I have a hunch that "c" is originally this: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] , so his name in his native language probably sounds more like "Meirko Druch-ah", not "Draka" like Malfoy. The meaning of the name is, approximately, "Placid Thorn". Hmm ... "Placido Espina", it translat...
[17:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:02] <exec> 08└─You think a god would intervene to redirect one cosmically tiny asteroid?
[17:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:15] <exec> 08└─My older sister Jean sells stuff like mugs and t-shirts with her drawings on them through one of those print-on-demand swag services. I'll ask her which such service she recommends.
[17:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:16] <exec> 08└─The ZX Spectrum was a general purpose computer, but in reality every Spectrum owner I knew used it to play games, or to develop games (and every Spectrum developer I knew was writing games). Console hardware format to play Spectrum games therefore kind of makes sense. Except for the fact that there...
[17:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:25] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I'm always a bit shocked at how many people are willing to cede their rights to a huge unresponsive bureaucracy, but they get concerned when local government takes action, where they are much more likely to have a voice and direct access to local government representatives to have an influe...
[17:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:58] <exec> 08└─Eh, well.
[17:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real-Time Drone Surveillance System for Violent Individuals Identification - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:15] <exec> 08└─"By the 2035 all muslims had fled India" But how are we going to get the Hindu nationalists to flee India?
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[18:33:13] <exec> 08└─"Zero is a difficult concept to understand and a mathematical skill that doesn't come easily -- it takes children a few years to learn," Dyer said. "We've long believed only humans had the intelligence to get the concept, but recent research has shown monkeys and birds have the brains for it as well...
[18:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:27] <exec> 08└─Observe the following two quotes, both describing the same set of measurements: So this darker lunar surface...absorbed more of the Sun's heat, raising the Moon's surface temperature by a few degrees.
[18:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:28] <exec> 08└─That warming is because of the SUV that was sent in the 70s. Built with old norms not following the current low emission trend.
[18:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 1925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:31] <exec> 08└─Even if it's not man-made, we could still do something about it. Let's say, for instance, that the Earth was warming up due to a change in solar emissions. We can't change what the sun is doing with our currently available technology. But we can take concrete steps to reduce how much of that solar r...
[18:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:33] <exec> 08└─Al Gore hasn't had much to do with climate change arguments since around 2007 or so. He's a great straw man, of course, but the big names promoting the idea that climate change is happening around right now are Bill Nye, Michael Shermer, and Neil deGrasse Tyson. The smaller names promoting the idea...
[18:33:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:35] <exec> 08└─Considering how few people that have actually been to the moon that would be scarey then wouldn't it. There is only something like 12 humans that have ever actually been ON the moon, I could have missed some people. But if those 12 people can make the temperature increase by several degrees all by t...
[18:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:37] <exec> 08└─As best as I can tell, the claim is "NASA conveniently forgot measurements from the 1970's that the Moon was heating up, so therefor there's some sort of massive conspiracy involving NASA misreporting the numbers on Earth's temperature, so therefor the Earth isn't heating up."
[18:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:40] <exec> 08└─Because the moon is flat too. That's how.
[18:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:42] <exec> 08└─a few years ago I came up with the idea of plotting the quantity and severity of wildfires vs. the date. I thought of this because that was a particularly bad year for fires in the west. I asked an actual Fire Chief about this and he told me that someone is already doing it. Sorry, didn't think to a...
[18:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:44] <exec> 08└─Its not that they didn't land stuff on the moon, its that there are a bunch of oddities surrounding the human moon landing videos and pics shared with the public. Almost like they did run a parallel "fake moon landing" project and then commingled the results with real moon landing stuff for whatever...
[18:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:46] <exec> 08└─The sun really could be getting warmer if it has a very slow oscillation in its diameter. Cepheid variables do that, with their peak brightness being related to their period. They were the first "Standard Candle" that enabled us to measure the distances to other galaxies.
[18:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:49] <exec> 08└─that's already a problem in the low-lying islands just off the coast of Louisiana. Also some of the Pacific atolls.
[18:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:51] <exec> 08└─Wildfires are a tricky thing to use as evidence because of differences in how forests were managed over the decades. Wildfires were necessary to have on a small scale to clear the deadwood to keep massive fires from occuring, by cracking down and eliminating as many small fires as necessary it leave...
[18:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:53] <exec> 08└─we can demonstrate that more CO2 in air causes it to warm up in fairly simple lab experiments [acs.org].
[18:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:55] <exec> 08└─I Am Absolutely Serious: Increased rainfall during the winter and spring led to increased undergrowth in Washington's and Oregon's forests a few years ago. When summer came much of that undergrowth dried out, resulting in lots of tasty fuel for hungry arsonists.
[18:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:58] <exec> 08└─I'm unsure of the realities of IR temperature measurements, but I'm curious if telescopes can measure the temperature of the lunar surface. This would help with my two questions: 1. Is the warming localized to the astronauts locations? 2. Does the temperature stabilize at a warmer temperature after...
[18:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:09] <exec> 08└─Someone should market a pocket projector protector, they'd clean up.
[18:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Pocket Projector Uses Raspberry Pi - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:10] <exec> 08└─Something like this?: https://www.banggood.com [banggood.com] Disclaimer: I did zero research on this product, I just did a quick look for a cheap portable projector from my favourite China...
[18:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:28] <exec> 08└─Don't know about KDE 4+ but if you liked KDE 3.5 then you might consider the Trinity Desktop Environment, based on my personal experience it runs great on Devuan. I've been using TDE since KDE 4 came out and Devuan for the last 3 months (upgraded from Debian Wheezy finally), Live DVD of TDE on Devu...
[18:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:15] <exec> 08└─Most people aren't competent enough to manage money if they had any.
[18:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:16] <exec> 08└─It isn't hypothetical, it happens to a lot of people.
[18:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03suburbanitemediocrity [6844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:18] <exec> 08└─Why do they get to have kids they can't afford and I have to wait? It's very unfair and unequal.
[18:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:21] <exec> 08└─Sorry, not an American, who is the issuer of student loans, and what is the collateral? From the story it seems like you can never default on the student loan, is that right? Is such an arrangement you can't get out of even legal, constitutional?
[18:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:23] <exec> 08└─Those robots all require custom firmware [soggywizards.com].
[18:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:52] <exec> 08└─"it can't be "faster" (but still the same speed as a Spectrum), it can't have more memory (but still exactly emulate a 16/48k Spectrum) it can't have better graphics (exactly the same as the Spectrum)" I don't know if you mean these things are impossible, or just that they clearly aren't what's bein...
[18:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NSF Supports Development of New Nationwide Data Storage Network - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:12] <exec> 08└─at least it intended to when I was in grad school. For a little while I was in a group at SLAC that was designing a C++ replacement for the byzantine CERNLIB. That replacement included a self-describing data format. But I got a little loopy and so dropped out of school. I didn't follow their efforts...
[18:37:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Subsentient [1111] 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 1020 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:10] <exec> 08└─In the imho unlikely event that Kim Jong-un is not merely toying with western leaders, it still spells mostly bad news for the people of North Korea. If relations between the DPRK and the west stabilize, the chance of deposing that absolute abomination of a human being becomes much smaller. I don't...
[18:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Real Estate Booming in Chinese-NK Border Town - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:15] <exec> 08└─Now if only a single one of your examples had actually happened you might have a point!
[18:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03pvanhoof [4638] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:36] <exec> 08└─I for one welcome our gut overlords.
[18:37:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06iPhone Always Tracks your Movements - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:37:57] <exec> 08└─How about because most people don't care? I don't mind my phone recording my location, I mind my phone allowing anyone other than me and explicitly authorised programs under my control to access that data. Tracking my location and storing it on device, encrypted really doesn't seem like a problem to...
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[19:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:22] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Nothing about ZERO was learned or understood. They learned to AVOID the "elements" to get more food.
[19:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:23] <exec> 08└─They learned to AVOID the "elements" to get more food.
[19:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:25] <exec> 08└─I would think so. All animals know how to avoid enemies. Two wasps... one wasp... no wasps! The danger is gone!
[19:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:53] <exec> 08└─Al Gore hasn't had much to do with climate change arguments since around 2007 or so.
[19:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 595 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:55] <exec> 08└─Im pretty sure you want the LRO diviner project: overview: http://staff.diviner.ucla.edu [ucla.edu] data: http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu [wustl.edu] Paper: We have compiled all nadir observations (defined here to be emission angles <10 °relative to a sphere)...
[19:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:57] <exec> 08└─The astronauts walked on the moon. And their footprints warmed the moon. If you believe the story. Singapore, huge crowds, so many people walking, walking. To see me. And it's warm, it's in the 80s. Possibly there's something to the story. And we can cool our cities, our planet, by walking less. Dri...
[19:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:59] <exec> 08└─So true, there is a cooling, and there's a heating. I mean look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be global warming. That wasn't working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place. The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they're settin...
[19:34:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03requerdanos [5997] 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 75 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:25] <exec> 08└─updated version of all packages.... that's what is relevant for most users.
[19:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 1225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:30] <exec> 08└─And quite frankly if firmware is the only non-free item they include, I would suggest they just provide two install cd images if needed. Personally though, we've lost the 'liberated hardware battle' at least on x86. Signed/Binary firmware is required top to bottom now, including reportable serials t...
[19:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:32] <exec> 08└─it's understandable that you are a lazy, whining whore, but you shouldn't expect that every distro pander to your ignorance and dependence. or the disgusting hardware vendors you blindly and so willingly fund. Principled distributions can take a stand for freedom and you can take your whore ass down...
[19:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:35] <exec> 08└─i have no plans to use it anytime soon but i'm glad non systemd distros exist, just in case i decide to jump ship one day.
[19:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:37] <exec> 08└─If you're so pure, then don't go buying hardware with nothing but non-free firmware drivers. That way you won't get non-free software installed on your machine. In the real world, there are people who need to run Devuan on machines available to them, or in the marketplace. Many of them are free soft...
[19:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 1712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:29] <exec> 08└─I think this is a case where both sides of the spectrum are right. Wages haven't kept pace with the inflation of health care and housing; most people suck at managing money. I guarantee the hypothetical person making 35k could have done more to reduce expenses and bring in more money. Roomates, movi...
[19:35:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:30] <exec> 08└─Some of the "rah rah freedom contingent" (libertarians, at least) are quite against the current college loan structure. It's not an inherent contradiction, just the usual vested-interests-and-path-dependence idiocy the US usually gets up to.
[19:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:33] <exec> 08└─Nah, sometimes experience indicates that sometimes it is wasted effort to have a real debate. The problems are obvious, the solutions less so. Until khallow can acknowledge reality there is no discussion worth having.
[19:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Drug Combination Offers More Effective Care For Patients Suffering Miscarriage - 1356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:11] <exec> 08└─Our family has had miscarriages as well. They recommended the surgical procedure, as it would be less traumatic, for both. On the first one, we opted not. It was a bit before the expulsion phase, but the doctors assured us that the risk of infection was low, as long as the membranes don't rupture. I...
[19:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:12] <exec> 08└─New Yorkers (and others) are crazy. Never heard of such a thing until this article. Eating charcoal is a disorder called Pica. To me, black coloured ice cream is licorice flavoured. My parents hated it, because the inevitable drips permanently stained our clothes.
[19:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Video of a Freshly-Removed Human Brain is Strangely Beautiful - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:49] <exec> 08└─I was just about to say this, but yeah, I have heard about fecal transplants changing the behavior of people (primarily the food they crave), and it is hypothesized that the gut bacteria is telling your brain what to eat. So if you wipe out your micro-biome and replace it with a new one, your gut wi...
[19:38:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fresh Water from Air - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:50] <exec> 08└─"'m also somewhat curious what the impact of sucking that moisture out of the air would be." this is what i was thinking. if there's only a little moisture in the air and you come in and steal it, like an asshole, what happens to the ecosystem that was depending on that.
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[20:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:19] <exec> 08└─Pen/pencil and paper. And searching? Who's gonna care about your writings? KISS wins.
[20:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:20] <exec> 08└─I had trouble when I first tried XFS, maybe 18 years ago. Lately it's been fine. My demands are modest.
[20:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 1638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:22] <exec> 08└─Clay tablets and some sticks. Couldn't be easier to use, and we've got some of those that have survived thousands of years still intact. Plus in most places on Earth at least you could easily produce replacement parts from the dirt laying around you. If that's too much weight, you can use paper and...
[20:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:25] <exec> 08└─Bashblog, [github.com] Void [www.gget.it] or hugo [gohugo.io] with grep on your source files for searchability.
[20:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:27] <exec> 08└─"Imagine being isolated off-grid for an unknown number of years." About Wednesday afternoon that usually sounds very appealing. Maybe Antarctica. Naw... Too many people. I'll hold out for the Moon.
[20:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:29] <exec> 08└─Honestly, if you want a solid computer you're looking for 80's/90's stuff that lasts for decades. Some of that stuff was running up until it was tossed in a dumpster. I'm thinking m68k, EEPROMs, flash, drams and srams with a mono lcd.
[20:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:40] <exec> 08└─https://youtu.be/7Kd3R_RlXgc [youtu.be]
[20:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:42] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps the researcher failed to understand that the "zero" is not simply the concept of "nothing", but a symbolic representation of said concept. Which is where the difficulty seems to lie for human kids at least: How can something denote nothing, and what should that be good for?
[20:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:15] <exec> 08└─The difference is that these values are not global (lunar) measures at all, but just a few local probes at locations where - by definition - the astronaut had been active. Moon does not have an atmosphere to transfer heat over any significant range. Thermal transfer through the rock/dust itself will...
[20:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:16] <exec> 08└─Again, calling someone a Troll for saying "hey maybe we should also consider the Sun's impact to better understand what is causing this" is what makes people flat out reject the movement to stop climate change. As we work to try and reduce and correct our excess emissions we will eventually get to t...
[20:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:52] <exec> 08└─Damn straight I should. If it doesn't work out of the box, you fucked up. Windows and OSX work out of the box just fine, and that is what 99.9% of people care about dumbass. Eat a cinderblock. Principled distributions can take a stand for freedom and you can take your whore ass down the road or bac...
[20:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:47] <exec> 08└─libertarians [...] are quite against the current college loan structure That would be counter to the "Privatize everything; deregulate everything" mantra of Libertarianism. Being able to gouge a client eternally, with him having no alternatives, sounds to me exactly like Libertarianism AKA The Law o...
[20:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:48] <exec> 08└─Explain to me where this (admittedly hypothetical but entirely plausible) person was irresponsible.
[20:35:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:51] <exec> 08└─who is the issuer of student loans,
[20:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:53] <exec> 08└─When I was at Uni in Miami, average low-end 1 bedroom apartment rent was $550/mo, and you could get that down by finding a roommate and renting a 2 bedrooom for $650 per month. I managed to do that one better and rent a room in a house that 6 of us got together to rent and my share was only $150 a m...
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[20:35:55] <exec> 08└─Part of the problem is that the loan counseling to get a student loan lies to people considering it. They claim that it can be discharged by bankruptcy court, but I don't know that it's true. On top of that, the interest for a government student loan maxes out at 10.5% which is absolutely ridiculous...
[20:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:58] <exec> 08└─What's forcing you to wait? Or have you chosen to wait until you can afford to have kids? In some situations kids are a form of investment: they're a cost now but in 20-30+ years hopefully they'll do better than you have and be able to take care of you. I also imagine if the poor waited to have kids...
[20:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:00] <exec> 08└─Imagine this scenario
[20:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:03] <exec> 08└─Just for fun, around here and "averageish" 2+2 family: Rent - $1200 per month Food - $500 per month Bills - $250 per month Car - $300 per month Of course, all of that can vary - usually the 2+2 family needs 2 cars so that the adults can both have jobs. Rent can be creatively lowered, and bills are h...
[20:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:05] <exec> 08└─we shouldn't have national-scale minimum wages
[20:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 0, Flamebait) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:07] <exec> 08└─They also don't become more true just by repeating them over and over again. Most people aren't saving their money because they don't have any to save.
[20:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:09] <exec> 08└─Being able to gouge a client eternally, with him having no alternatives, sounds to me exactly like Libertarianism AKA The Law of the Jungle AKA Only the Strongest Survive.
[20:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:12] <exec> 08└─Nah, sometimes experience indicates that sometimes it is wasted effort to have a real debate.
[20:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 655 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:42] <exec> 08└─> I don't know if you mean these things are impossible, or just that they clearly aren't what's being done here. What I meant was that it isn't possible for a V2.0 (or "+") replica to be faster than a v1.0 replica - each of them either replicates the speed of the original spectrum, or it's a poor re...
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[21:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:30] <exec> 08└─I learned in today's SoylentNews that too many people walked on the moon. Their footprints have made it VERY HOT there. And all that heat may make the moon glow. Very soon you'll be able to see it at night or even during the day!!!
[21:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:32] <exec> 08└─Punch cards or chains. No really. Since that is about where you can expect to figure out how to read it and also build a primitive computer without really good chemical or metallurgical plants. It also have the advantage that it can be operated without electricity (just imagine what you can do with...
[21:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:34] <exec> 08└─Please don't feed the tool^Wtroll.
[21:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's still not going to survive if you trip and smash the thing against a rock though, so you'd likely still want at least one spare...and with size/weight considerations you might be better off with a redundant array of garbage SBCs compared to a single ancient but robust luggable. Depends...
[21:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:38] <exec> 08└─There is an video journaling app called 1 second everyday. After a month I can already see the output from this will be remarkable. It's not something you'd use on a desert island, but modern minimalists living without an app enabled smartphone probably are not a large subset of the SoylentNews audi...
[21:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:41] <exec> 08└─I wrote a journal in HTML with simple features like anchors for each date and some basic CSS styling. Back it up periodically on separate media. You could even add inline SVG drawings, all in the same file.
[21:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:43] <exec> 08└─I prefer to use Gmail and the NSA. It will take many acts from Congress before those data centers will shutdown.
[21:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:45] <exec> 08└─No grid. What you going to plug those energy sucking old pigs into? A Current Bush.
[21:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:48] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Pens, maybe. Lots of them. Spiral bound notebooks. The size that fits easily in sip lock bags. I've used these for years. Two rules: Date Every page. Add a checkbox in front of every action item.
[21:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:50] <exec> 08└─i have weekly logs containing all my bookmarks, webcaptures, screenshots, journals, project-logs, plans, ticklers, things to memorize .. going back 5 years next month. its free. and out of the box.. you just have to put it together the way you want to .. without an instruction manual of course :) .....
[21:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:52] <exec> 08└─What you going to plug those energy sucking old pigs into? A Current Bush.
[21:34:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:05] <exec> 08└─They probably simply ended up regarding the "elements" as contenders, competition, even in the absence of any threat.
[21:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:39] <exec> 08└─The fact that somebody else is doing that plotting doesn't automatically mean you shouldn't also do it on your own, especially if you doubted the results coming from the somebody else. My point was that the people who are denying that the Earth is getting warmer almost definitely have all the equipm...
[21:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:41] <exec> 08└─[sea rise is] already a problem in the low-lying islands just off the coast of Louisiana.
[21:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:43] <exec> 08└─Sorry about that: correct link [acs.org]. This targets middle-schoolers.
[21:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:45] <exec> 08└─When I was in grade school, we used to get these 'papers' called Weekly Reader (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Reader). I think it was supposed to teach us something. Anyway, I remember one story was about coastal erosion and how South Carolina was going to be gone by sometime in the 80's. I r...
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[21:34:48] <exec> 08└─I'll tell you what. I have an open mind to it. You can make lots of cases for different views. I have a totally open mind. Maybe there's global warming and maybe there isn't. If there isn't, we won't do anything about it. And if there is we won't do anything about it.
[21:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Devuan 2.0.0 Released - Debian Without systemd - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:23] <exec> 08└─The answer to non-free software is not more non-free software, regardless of how abysmal the current situation is.
[21:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:30] <exec> 08└─So: positive feedback loop. Which, despite the emotional prejudice of the word positive, is a very bad thing. Booms boom bigger, busts bust deeper, reduction of security, increase of stress, chaos, crime, mental breakdowns, mass shootings, etc.
[21:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:32] <exec> 08└─Not due to growth, due to bubble blowing central banks buying corporate bonds and companies engaging in stock buy-backs.
[21:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:34] <exec> 08└─That's already in practice
[21:36:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:36] <exec> 08└─about half of people with families are only just covering the basic bills
[21:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:38] <exec> 08└─the responsible people are negative feedback
[21:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:41] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, in the my logical universe we shouldn't have national-scale minimum wages
[21:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:43] <exec> 08└─If only you guys would spend the same sort of effort making decent arguments as you do rationalizing why you should ignore disagreement! and if we used Bhutan's GHI
[21:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 1424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:45] <exec> 08└─I think the obvious rebuttal is that if the working class organized within a libertarian political system, the working class could demand a sufficient share of the wealth to act as the cyclical dampener you're suggesting. This would probably be a better and more scalable solution than using the poli...
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[21:37:16] <exec> 08└─The turbo button is a good example: It allowed to run games at original speed, while still allowing the computer to run at a faster speed. A more advanced interface might allow to give a speed factor, that is, you can play a game at original speed, at 1.5x speed (for the challenge, or because the or...
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[22:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06AT&T Imposes Another $5 Price Hike on Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:22] <exec> 08└─The data is unlimited! The throttling is unlimited! The price increases are unlimited! It's the bestest unlimited plan evar!
[22:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AT&T Imposes Another $5 Price Hike on Grandfathered Unlimited Data Plans - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:23] <exec> 08└─This is so depressingly common it's hardly news. Big, powerful organization releases feeble excuse, with no proof, no data to back up their claims. No one is fooled, but hardly anyone does anything so they get away with their evasions and manure anyway. Sure wish consumers had more energy and less t...
[22:33:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 85 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:32] <exec> 08└─Pen/pencil and paper. And searching? Who's gonna care about your writings? KISS wins.
[22:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:49] <exec> 08└─Is it ok if I feed the garden gnome? He's casting a hungry look at a my tomato plants.
[22:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:50] <exec> 08└─I keep a small notebook in my back pocket. Quick and handy for short info like model numbers and/or serial numbers.
[22:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:53] <exec> 08└─If we're starting from an assumption that you can have a computer system that will survive whatever duration is required in whatever environment it's required for, then surely you could also have a sufficient quantity of solar panels (plus the requisite redundant backups). But that does make the old...
[22:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:55] <exec> 08└─All of my notes, some writings and every idea starts out as scribbles on paper for me. Thought for the task you described I have pretty much transitioned to using my cellphone to snap a pic of parts/name plates/tags/etc. But for sure, paper wins as the best medium for writings and doodles.
[22:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 697 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:57] <exec> 08└─If you actually want it to last, make sure paper is acid-free, preferably archival grade. Personally, I'd go with cotton rag paper for anything I wanted to preserve long-term. And make sure you have a good source for ink that will last a long time unless you want to learn to make your own. Having a...
[22:34:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 1925 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:25] <exec> 08└─Even if it's not man-made, we could still do something about it. Let's say, for instance, that the Earth was warming up due to a change in solar emissions. We can't change what the sun is doing with our currently available technology. But we can take concrete steps to reduce how much of that solar r...
[22:34:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 277 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:28] <exec> 08└─As best as I can tell, the claim is "NASA conveniently forgot measurements from the 1970's that the Moon was heating up, so therefor there's some sort of massive conspiracy involving NASA misreporting the numbers on Earth's temperature, so therefor the Earth isn't heating up."
[22:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:50] <exec> 08└─Ok, the experiment is filling two 2 liters halfway with water stoppering the top and shining a heat lamp on them. Then you drop 3 alka-seltzer tablets into one, restopper it, and measure the temperature of the air in the upper half of both. Then at the end you use your chromebook to explain "How hav...
[22:34:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:51] <exec> 08└─Even some Doctor Who and Star Trek episohave been lost forever. Maybe nerds are just bad at long term storage.
[22:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:53] <exec> 08└─We can't change what the sun is doing with our currently available technology. But we can take concrete steps to reduce how much of that solar radiation gets stuck in Earth's atmosphere
[22:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:56] <exec> 08└─Context is your friend
[22:34:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:58] <exec> 08└─We could of course remove our added contribution but considering the extent and dramatic increases in temp in some of the past hot periods, it would be a drop in the bucket over the long term. I just really find it funny when deniers bring up "it's just a natural increase!" BS. That doesn't make the...
[22:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:00] <exec> 08└─Did those episodes cost 107 billion (2016-adjusted) dollars? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[22:37:22] <exec> 08└─...it can't have more memory (but still exactly emulate a 16/48k Spectrum)
[22:38:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:32] <exec> 08└─Seriously, water? Like, from the toilet? I'd think the electrolytes would have what plants crave.
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[23:33:28] <exec> 08└─I dislike abusive companies and AT&T (and Verizon, Comcast, and all the others) as much as anybody. That being said... really? What are people complaining about? The company didn't sign a contract saying "this is your price forever." The customers don't have a 10-year contract with them (and if AT&T...
[23:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:57] <exec> 08└─If SD cards are so awful, why do I hear that SSDs are pretty good now? They've maybe pulled ahead of HDDs in reliability.
[23:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03curril [5717] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Suggestions for a Minimalist Journaling System? - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:59] <exec> 08└─If you are going to use electronics, TiddlyWiki is a great journaling tool. Everything, including the application, is stored in an HTML file so it can be read on almost any device and the file format is likely to be supported long into the future. Saving changes can be a bit clunky depending on what...
[23:34:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tfried [5534] 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 285 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:11] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps the researcher failed to understand that the "zero" is not simply the concept of "nothing", but a symbolic representation of said concept. Which is where the difficulty seems to lie for human kids at least: How can something denote nothing, and what should that be good for?
[23:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bees Understand the Concept of Zero - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:13] <exec> 08└─My cat understands zero purfectly. Zero food in bowl = kick up a fuss. Non-zero food in bowl = zero fuss. "Scientists" think they are SO klever...
[23:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lunar Warming - Yup - Did That, Then "Hid" the Data. - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:00] <exec> 08└─Long-term data storage is difficult.
[23:36:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 148 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:10] <exec> 08└─If through individual responsibility (or merely foresight), they had saved a bunch of money during good times, then the bad times would be lessened.
[23:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:52] <exec> 08└─Bhutan introduced such metrics is because it would have utterly failed with any attempt at real economic metrics. A nebulous measure of "happiness" is a lot easier to game.
[23:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:53] <exec> 08└─In what way? They still get unemployed, they still seek jobs when they're put out of work. If they're independently wealthy and don't need jobs, then, sure, those people are "the solution" to all economic problems, aren't they?
[23:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:56] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, in the my logical universe
[23:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Automation Won’t Take Your Job Until The Next Recession Threatens It - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:36:58] <exec> 08└─What's their motivation to "game" a respectable, by your standards, GDP?
[23:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook/Instagram vs. Twitch and YouTube - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:12] <exec> 08└─No, he thinks god will save his "soul".
[23:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Zx Vega+: Indiegogo Calls "Game Over" on Sinclair Console - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:32] <exec> 08└─Sure it's a real issue but there are solutions - ranging from the simple turbo button to virtual z80 mode, it could be done. Just wasn't ever on the agenda it looks like.
[23:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Drug Combination Offers More Effective Care For Patients Suffering Miscarriage - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:43] <exec> 08└─My wife said I should share this story from the procedure day because, the experience was so non-traumatic and she was so out of fucks to give, she can find this funny and shows the extra care they took: We arrived for the appointment. I go to the check-in desk while she makes her way to a chair. Th...
[23:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New York City Bans Use of Activated Charcoal in Food and Drink-Serving Establishments - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:38:45] <exec> 08└─Is Amiga the feminine form of Amigo?
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