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[00:35:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03cockroach [2266] 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 66 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:25] <exec> 08└─What a giant pile of turd. Today there an no good use cases for AI
[00:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:47] <exec> 08└─Uber post, man. Sorry, taxi post, man. ;)
[00:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Korea's Former President Park Geun-hye Sentenced to 24 Years in Prison - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:35:59] <exec> 08└─Lee Jae-yong [wikipedia.org] got probation after a year behind bars while Shin Dong-bin [wikipedia.org] will probably spend under two years at most.
[00:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06South Korea's Former President Park Geun-hye Sentenced to 24 Years in Prison - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:01] <exec> 08└─lost her won?
[00:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:34] <exec> 08└─The Wiki page on Nevada prostitution [wikipedia.org] seems to contradict what you're saying. I'm not sure what their methodology is for measuring a black market is; but illegal prostitution seems to be doing most of the business. It just makes common sense--if you're staying in Vegas are you going t...
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[01:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:21] <exec> 08└─Of course there aren't any signs of foul play. Fishermen gotta be crafty enough to keep up with a million different data points just to pick the best bait for the day. Arranging the perfect murder because some asshole saw you catching fish and threw in right beside you is a cake walk by comparison.
[01:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:22] <exec> 08└─Mysteriously(assassinated) dies(murdered) under completely normal circumstances. Vaccine industry says nothing to see her, move along! The guy sounds like a hero.
[01:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:24] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor [wikipedia.org]
[01:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:35:34] <exec> 08└─Just a reminder that if you keep your messages on some else's severs they can do anything they want with them. Including delete them or fill them full of goatse images. Sure, if you jump between computers or devices a webby thingy can be handy, but if you want to keep stuff and make sure it never va...
[01:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:50] <exec> 08└─The Wiki page on Nevada prostitution [wikipedia.org] seems to contradict what you're saying.
[01:39:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Aurora Station Space Hotel to Launch in 2021, Accommodate Guests in 2022 - 1046 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:24] <exec> 08└─Modded Troll for complaining about being modded troll? Truly the Space Age is Dead! Deader than the doornail you rode in on! As dead as the guest of honor at an Irish wake! Deader than a brown dwarf star after it found out what its companion Red Giant had been up to, by standing on a box, and looki...
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[02:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:23] <exec> 08└─More dead humans, that's what we need. The rest of you stupid lemmings, drown yourselves now.
[02:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03milsorgen [6225] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:24] <exec> 08└─We must connect the dots! [heavy.com] CDC Researcher “dealing with a virus” and on he was on a secret mission Found Dead Ensyma’s Website Prominently Displays Trademarks for the CDC, Department of Energy, Medical Countermeasures Systems, & CERN Not to mention his massive weapons cache. I think...
[02:35:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:35:27] <exec> 08└─You mean all of us, or just the coloreds/brown/poors?
[02:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:04] <exec> 08└─I don't think that what you want is possible yet. And, if it were possible - you may very well not get what you want anyway. An independently thinking entity lives on your phone/watch/computer/car or whatever. It is self sufficient, with no need, and no directive, to "phone home" to government/insur...
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[03:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:19] <exec> 08└─blah blah BLOCKCHAIN blah blah... Also, all of our cars could powered by hemp! And next year will be the year of Linux on the desktop! (you're welcome)
[03:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:20] <exec> 08└─... says Per Ekwall, a spokesperson for Swish, the immensely popular mobile payments system owned by Sweden’s banks.
[03:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:23] <exec> 08└─Well, the impossible has happened before. We now have lights at Wrigley, and the Cubs won the World Series
[03:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:35] <exec> 08└─All of you old-ass bastards taking up air, the lot of yous. You should have been dead already anyways.
[03:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:37] <exec> 08└─What if our asses are new? They can do that surgically now. Hell, with stem cells they could probably even grow you an entirely new ass just like you had when you were young, down to the DNA.
[03:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:04] <exec> 08└─Incorrect. Human trafficking includes slave labor for non-sexual purposes. Modern example: [washingtonpost.com] “Does anybody need a digger? This is a digger, a big strong man, he’ll dig,” said a salesman in camouflage gear. “What am I bid, what am I bid?”
[03:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Beats EU Businesses in Race to Detect Compromised Servers - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:17] <exec> 08└─Walking around. I like that choice of words. So, it's sometime in the 1940's, and we're at war. But, somehow, the Japanese manage to land spies on our bases, all over the Pacific. And, the Germans are doing the same in Europe. On average, we catch those spies on our bases after 76 days. Those shoddy...
[03:37:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06US Beats EU Businesses in Race to Detect Compromised Servers - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:19] <exec> 08└─Israel, after all, is neither west, nor east.
[03:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Surgeon General Urges More Americans to Carry Naloxone - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:25] <exec> 08└─Society doesn't see them as subhuman. People just want to cut their losses.
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[04:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:22] <exec> 08└─If the Soviets could recruit spies in the NSA - and they really did - then they can recruit spies among the folks who are root on Visa and Mastercard's servers. The one NSA spy I remember was an Army seargant who made the mistake of driving to work in a fast red convertible.
[04:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:23] <exec> 08└─At least until all the old folk are finished dying off: Legal marijuana shops are not permitted to have bank accounts. Strictly speaking it's not against the law but none of the banks permit it because they are federally regulated.
[04:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:25] <exec> 08└─In Portland and Vancouver they call it the "Hop Card". You tap it on a screen as you board the bus or train. For a while now I've been buying thirty day all-zone passes, but I've been paying with my debit card. So the transit folk are at least able to identify me as a regular. But work is going well...
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[04:35:28] <exec> 08└─and i got laid
[04:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:42] <exec> 08└─Didn't South Park try this once? As I recall, it did *not* end well...
[04:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:52] <exec> 08└─Oopsy.
[04:36:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:22] <exec> 08└─It's the same reason people call smartphones "iPhones". It's the same reason they call flip phones "vintage" even though new ones are being manufactured and in demand. It's the same reason why I can't find a proper fucking beige/ivory ATX computer case instead of black with blue and rainbow-LED lit...
[04:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:12] <exec> 08└─I reported a few domains to the FBI I think three years ago, but those domains still serve CP, and CloudFlare still caches them.
[04:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:13] <exec> 08└─Whether to permit prostitution is left up to the counties. Mustang Ranch was the first mostly-legal brothel. All the "buildings" were trailers. The Ranch was located near the borders of three different counties, so as its legality came and went they could just redomicile to a different county.
[04:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:15] <exec> 08└─For a while now the Portland Police Bureau was heavily into backpages.com so they could regularly supply a list of johns to The Oregonian. With backpages and craigslist being knocked out, it will be two or three days for their replacements to show up in the SERPS.
[04:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:17] <exec> 08└─It's legal in Switzerland, the UK and Mexico. Back in the mid-60s, some Naval officers' wives went shopping in Tijuana. They were all arrested then forced to buy prostitution licenses. That's just the one instance of that that I know specifically about. I've always puzzled over whether my mother was...
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[05:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:35:31] <exec> 08└─You mean you crawled up a chicken's ass and waited?
[05:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 826 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:20] <exec> 08└─I'm not a fan of the new federal law that enabled this -- in fact, I revile it. It puts innocent people at risk of jail for the evil of their platforms' users. But, backpage is an exception. Yes, the traffickers will move to other venues, but backpage was well known, on the clearnet, available to ev...
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[05:37:21] <exec> 08└─different legal category due to being journalistic organizations with 1st amendment protections
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[05:37:23] <exec> 08└─How about the next time you're fucking a hooker, you ask her/him: "Are you here of your own free will? Would you like me to drive you to the police or a shelter?".
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[06:35:19] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYaCdaGrRQ [youtube.com]
[06:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:21] <exec> 08└─I said it before I'll say it again and I will never tire of saying it: The Solar System is the product of a supernova. We know this because of the abundance of heavy elements like lead and uranium: Iron is the most-stable element. You can't get energy by dividing - fissioning? - heavier elements and...
[06:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:36] <exec> 08└─You can't be serious. Fast red convertible? Really? If that's all it takes, then half my shipmates were Soviet spies. Or, Israeli, or something. No, we couldn't afford Porsches, or Mazzaratis, but most of us had fast sporty vehicles. Especially those of us who weren't married. A sergeant (E5) with...
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[06:35:38] <exec> 08└─You've apparently missed the point. In Sweden they don't bother with anything so petty as your hoppy-hop card. Everything - EVERYTHING - is tied to one account. They would have to roll things backward a good deal, before they considered hopping around like you do. How far away from home can you go w...
[06:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:54] <exec> 08└─You seem a bit touchy today. You have a yeast infection or something? Seriously, dude, it doesn't matter what color you are. You aren't part of the ruling class. You're unwanted. Now, go do yourself in.
[06:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 787 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:05] <exec> 08└─I don't know 'bout that. Read first post by AC again. Just think about it for awhile. Maybe Zuck does need to cover his ass. Oh-kay, maybe he can't just delete those specific messages that he needs to delete, because it would be to suspicious. So, he randomly deletes shitloads of stuff here and ther...
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[06:36:06] <exec> 08└─I even hate computer games where the AI doesn't play by the same rules...
[06:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:38] <exec> 08└─data whore
[06:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 1759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:37:34] <exec> 08└─Does anyone else remember a few years back when a major Canadian child porn ring's ISP was busted, and the majority of the traffic to and from the site every day was from government IP addresses of about 30-40 major first world countries? The place was barely hiding at all, from what we know of 5 ey...
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[07:35:20] <exec> 08└─The CIA doesn't have as many clandestine agents as you might at first think. A great many CIA employees are so very lazy that they spend all day, every day, year after year just reading the newspapers... ... in hopes that they can find out about the next Usama ben Laden before he crashes any airplan...
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[07:35:21] <exec> 08└─> "Any suggestion otherwise is fit for tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter conspiracy theorists." Are those the same conspiracy theorists who insisted there was a secret government agency, the "NSA" I think it was? And more recently that the government was conducting unconstitutional mass surveil...
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[07:35:23] <exec> 08└─Aha, so that is why they ignored all intelligence they had about 9/11 before it happened. They were too busy reading the newspapers. These "newspapers" are obviously a danger to national security and must be stopped.
[07:35:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:33] <exec> 08└─And God so loved the Universe, He exploded His own Sun to create the Solar System. Amen, Hallelujah.
[07:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:36] <exec> 08└─C'mon, MDC! This is basic stellar sequence stuff. As stars age, they use up their hydrogen then start fusing helium. Eventually they are not hot enough nor do they have enough pressure at their core to fuse anything else.
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[07:35:52] <exec> 08└─I read James Bamford's "The Puzzle Palace" over 20 years ago. That's an awesome book but it gets tedious sometimes. Bamford is more a historian than a journalist, so he details every single reorg the NSA ever went through. There are many editions. He issues new ones as he learns what the NSA is up t...
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[07:35:54] <exec> 08└─Just thinking about being tracked makes me psychotic. The only way I could stay sane was simply to accept that I'm being tracked. I do my very very best never to notice security camera. I'd go out of my tree in England or in Sweden. There are different causes to paranoia - schizophrenia, paranoid pe...
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[07:35:56] <exec> 08└─We have the same push here.. all the benefits that belong to it (according to the shop organisations that push it). The one fact that they seem to forget continuously is that on a monthly basis one or two banks (you know, the big ones) have at least one or two times problems with their payment infra...
[07:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:56] <exec> 08└─So hide, hide, hide!
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[07:37:53] <exec> 08└─It was raided in 2005 after publishing several years of publishing monthly sets containing typically 3000 images of 4- to 16-year-old girls. Very few of the parents pressed charges. Those photos are everywhere now. It is really easy to find them in Bing Image Search. Say what you will about Google t...
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[08:35:22] <exec> 08└─Joseph Stalin dismissed the criticism of anyone who might suggest that the purges were detrimental to the Soviet. People, the DHS was just about the MOST WRONG response we could have made to the events of 2011 and 2012. We couldn't have been any more wrong if we had just allowed the military free re...
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[08:35:23] <exec> 08└─Filter error: Comment too short.
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[08:35:34] <exec> 08└─In the fall of my sophomore year I realized that I enjoyed making telescopes far more than I enjoyed looking through them. Astronomers don't make observatory scopes, that's always done by professional opticians and mechanical engineers, civil engineers and the like. A friend suggested I change my ma...
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[08:35:55] <exec> 08└─There are different causes to paranoia
[08:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:56] <exec> 08└─Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not really out to get you [warplife.com]. I wrote that in 2003. Consider soldiers who never lose their cool despite fighting in wars for many years. You're right, in today's world many people have good reason to fear for their lives, but not all o...
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[09:35:24] <exec> 08└─I was often called a conspiracy theorist as a result of my essay about the No-Fly List. It wrote it long before the list was public knowledge. Is This the America I Love? [warplife.com]
[09:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:25] <exec> 08└─Wadda ya tryin ta say?
[09:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:35:28] <exec> 08└─I predict one unintended consequence will be: fringe bloggers and wanna-be journalists ending up on this list, which in turn will allow them to sue to have the list released so they can claim they are journalists and can protect their "sources" (real or imagined).
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[09:35:46] <exec> 08└─... says Per Ekwall, a spokesperson for Swish, the immensely popular mobile payments system owned by Sweden’s banks.
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[10:35:27] <exec> 08└─Eric Schmidt pulled this shit when Google's war-driving efforts were revealed to have collected and retained private data. He went full "only people who have something to hide" about it. These are dishonest, evil men.
[10:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:28] <exec> 08└─Sure, Rusty saw dollar signs and bent the site over and had his way with the user base. This is all a matter of public record.
[10:36:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:36:02] <exec> 08└─Consider soldiers who never lose their cool
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[11:35:19] <exec> 08└─this is a test. Remember, if anything goes wrong, you two, oops, sorry, three were expendable. Seems like they are taking the worst bits (lack of safety) of the 1950's and 60's with the worst expenditure practices of the 2000's.
[11:35:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:35:36] <exec> 08└─The RIGHT THING to do, would have been to change the laws so that the various agencies could *SHARE INFORMATION*.
[11:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:35:37] <exec> 08└─Because the DHS had about 10 years of headway, unless you're blaming it on Obama :D
[11:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:27] <exec> 08└─That sounds very voodoo, here in Europe we use syringes.
[11:39:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06U.S. Surgeon General Urges More Americans to Carry Naloxone - 74 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:41] <exec> 08└─Just who do they expect to buy it? Random people (why would they need it)?
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[12:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:19] <exec> 08└─The reason doctors don't want to prescribe marijuana has little to do with that lack. We had a recent discussion about doctors being "rewarded" for prescribing high dollar opiods. "Rewarded" properly belongs in quotes, because the pharmaceuticals were actually BRIBING doctors to write prescriptions.
[12:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 1380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:21] <exec> 08└─I don't believe for a moment that's responsible for a reasonable number of similar cases. Marijuana is still stigmatized, and until recently was illegal pretty much everywhere. It's still federally illegal(which is retarded), and talking about utilizing it as a treatment is a very, very new concept....
[12:35:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:46] <exec> 08└─Manning only had access to Army information, contained only within the Department of Defense - and I think only within the Army. But, the law didn't result in Manning leaking information. That leak was the result of a traitor, betraying the service he swore to serve.
[12:35:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:35:48] <exec> 08└─LOL - I can play that either way. "Let's blame it on Obama" should be fun! But, yes, I meant 2001 and 2002 - sorry.
[12:36:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:45] <exec> 08└─Here at Facebook we take covering our asses protecting our data more seriously than protecting your data.
[12:36:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 553 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:47] <exec> 08└─Just a reminder that if you keep your messages on some else's severs they can do anything they want with them. Including delete them or fill them full of goatse images. Sure, if you jump between computers or devices a webby thingy can be handy, but if you want to keep stuff and make sure it never va...
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[13:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:22] <exec> 08└─Research already shows that cannabis can work better than opiates for long term (chronic) pain. Not that I didn't say always, or for short term pain such as surgeries. But for long term pain, any doctor that steers you towards opiates over cannabis or other long term pain solutions is probably doing...
[13:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:24] <exec> 08└─Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories such as ibuprofin are more effective than opiates for a lot of pain. They should be the drug of first resort against pain.
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[13:35:32] <exec> 08└─Maybe, however it might be that modern methods of space capsule development are far more sophisticated and there is much greater confidence in the reliability of the vehicle.
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[13:35:43] <exec> 08└─Joseph Stalin dismissed the criticism of anyone who might suggest that the purges were detrimental to the Soviet. People, the DHS was just about the MOST WRONG response we could have made to the events of 2011 and 2012. We couldn't have been any more wrong if we had just allowed the military free re...
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[13:35:54] <exec> 08└─I really don't think anything like the TSA should exist. Forcing everyone to submit to searches before they're allowed to get on a plane is simply unconstitutional. I would rather risk a terrorist attack than have such a thing. Of course, that generously assumes the TSA is even effective, which it i...
[13:35:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:55] <exec> 08└─The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the...
[13:37:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03archfeld [4650] 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 581 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:18] <exec> 08└─I used to think lawyers were the lowest of the low on the occupation list, followed closely by politicians. Lately I have come to the conclusion that there are some low level politicians, county and lower usually who still have some semblance of humanity about them, and there are lawyers that do pro...
[13:37:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03corey [2202] 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 309 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:22] <exec> 08└─Why is it impossible for people to say "taxi" any more? It must be so passé. In order to be socially accepted, one must say "Uber". On topic, when I get to the airport, there are a line of taxi's right there waiting. Why mine my info with sophisticated overconplication when the solution is just gra...
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[14:35:19] <exec> 08└─The basis of a free society is caveat emptor However, if company advertises cutting-edge security, but doesn't actually implement any such thing, then there might be a case for criminal proceedings. Otherwise, you can fuck off with your "THERE SHOULD BE A LAW!!!!111".
[14:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:20] <exec> 08└─At what point does this become criminally negligent?
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[14:35:32] <exec> 08└─A lone man sat on a bench in a certain park. That alone would not be surprising, but what was surprising was that this man was completely nude. Due to this, some might mistake this man for a sexual deviant, but the truth was something much more grand; he was a freedom fighter. That's right: this man...
[14:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:33] <exec> 08└─Gotta keep the prison industrial complex fed. Gotta keep big pharma funded. Gotta keep giving the police state a reason to exist. If we don't do that, things might actually start to get better for the 99.99%*, and we can't have that now can we? *The .01% has absolutely no problem whatsoever getting...
[14:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:35] <exec> 08└─My sample size is of course small on this, but I don't know anyone who would say Ibuprofin would work better for relief of pain for any reasonably distracting form of pain. It may be preferred for other reasons(ability to drive, less distracted, ..) but I think it's well established which one is str...
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[14:35:38] <exec> 08└─Long term cannabis use can have some small to moderate complications. Long term opiate use is a death sentence. Keep that in mind as you defend doctors who push opiates on their patients who have chronic pain.
[14:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:40] <exec> 08└─That is a good point. I don't think of medical cannabis as a "smoked" medication, but your comment made me realize that it is often consumed that way. Pills and other delivery methods are available though. I understand that my knowledge about this is anecdotal, but that is due to the "war on drugs"...
[14:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing Crewed Test Flight to the ISS May be Upgraded to a Full Mission - 836 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:35:50] <exec> 08└─If there's a life-ending problem it's probably going to be on the way up, or maybe on the way down. If something goes wrong while they're docked at the ISS, they can (hopefully) evacuate to the station. Basically, if people are risking their lives going up and down, they can at least do something us...
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[14:36:12] <exec> 08└─imagine if they shared information freely amongst members!
[14:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:25] <exec> 08└─This is a pretty good summary, though core collapse doesn't explain all supernova types. Specifically, type 1a supernovas have different circumstances, somewhat similar to processes that create novas (though more rare and specific conditions are required). (Wikipedia summary of types and models here...
[14:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:26] <exec> 08└─If you look at the image, there are two non-concentric circles. Which one's center has the neutron star?
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[14:37:50] <exec> 08└─> Maybe it even decides that you should be sacrificed for the benefit of the next generation? here's a smart meatbag.
[14:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:51] <exec> 08└─Nobody is talking about independently thinking entities - a.k.a strong AIs. As far as we know such a thing doesn't yet it doesn't exist anywhere in the world, and we have no reason to believe we're anywhere close to creating them. Modern AIs are mostly semi-autonomous pattern-recognition systems, ca...
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[15:35:20] <exec> 08└─> At T-Mobile Austria, they explain that of course they store the password in plaintext, but they have so good security so it's nothing to worry about. Wait... "All the passwords were stolen. They were in plaintext, but don't worry, our security is good." What the hell? Was that explanation made pre...
[15:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:21] <exec> 08└─We're increasingly coerced into creating web accounts for online billing (etc) and almost every website has a privacy policy. There is a good claim it's fraud when a website claims to respect your privacy but then leaks a plain text password alongside an email address. You should not even have to wa...
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[15:35:23] <exec> 08└─Uh what are these accounts used for? Doesn't seem like such a big deal compared to what US banks have been doing for decades if not longer. https://splinternews.com [splinternews.com] I dropped my bank account number and routing num...
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[15:35:26] <exec> 08└─I assume the question as asked is referring to legal, not moral, liability. IANAL, so take all this with a grain of salt. I'm also only familiar with the US system of determining liability. That said... The problem here is what's legally referred to as an intervening cause. [wikipedia.org] If I do...
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[15:35:28] <exec> 08└─A historian would be able to better answer the question of how many decades it has been established as best practice to use a salted hash for passwords. Regardless of the details the answer will be in decades, and there is no excuse for any manager to sign off on such failed designs as we are seeing...
[15:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Knowledge Troll [5948] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:30] <exec> 08└─T-Mobile wasn't breached - at least not that they are reporting.
[15:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 727 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:32] <exec> 08└─and as long as the outcome of the breach is cheaper than what you pay for security, "What, me worry?" The company doesn't REEEALLLLY care if your cc info, personal info, password etc is taken so long as they can make it all balance to the positive on the balance sheet. As SOON as that balance sheet...
[15:35:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 762 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:35] <exec> 08└─Actually what would change things is if CxOs start going to prison for their crimes. Fines aren't really a big problem when in most/all cases it's just the Government taking their cut of the profits. Why punish hundreds or thousands of people when you could just punish the people responsible? If you...
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[15:35:37] <exec> 08└─Ah, right, the breach was in Finland, and the statement was from T-Mobile Austria. My bad. That means that the "explanation" is just terminally stupid, not clinically insane.
[15:35:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:39] <exec> 08└─> Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. Well, in case of incompetence, "advanced" is probably not the right word. What's the opposite of "advanced"? "Retarded"? Yes, that one works on multiple levels. Sufficiently retarded incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
[15:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:41] <exec> 08└─Oh, but that would be a Violently-Imposed Monopoly, and we can't have THAT *rolls eyes* The guy you're replying to is a borderline-spammer with some kind of axe to grind that makes him post on every single goddamn thread about how SOMEHOW government or regulation or suchlike is responsible for all t...
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[15:35:43] <exec> 08└─Better idea: make them pay personally, and then when they inevitably go bankrupt, THEN send them to jail, so they get out penniless and have to experience life as working-poor.
[15:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:35:46] <exec> 08└─Yyyyyup. I've been saying this for years now, usually phrasing it as "Hanlon's Razor loses its edge when there's enough incompetence."
[15:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 1192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:01] <exec> 08└─It seems necessary to point out that there are millenia old recipes for various treatments, using cannabis. Many of them, especially in the US, were nothing but snake oil. But, there were preparations made and used even here, that were credibly decent pain relief medications. While Jack Herer exagge...
[15:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 784 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:03] <exec> 08└─Actually there has been research done on long-term cannabis smoking - lots of heavy users out there that were pretty open about it long before legalization. And one of the most surprising findings was that long-term heavy cannabis smoking actually appears to slightly *reduce* your chance of developi...
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[15:36:05] <exec> 08└─Agreed - I was laid up for a week or so after surgery, and opiates are what made motion and sleep possible. I'm the sort that usually only needs a half-dose of Ibuprofen for normal pain, but after surgery even the huge (800mg? bigger?) prescription Ibuprofen did nothing. For normal pain though - Ibu...
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[15:36:37] <exec> 08└─What I hear you saying is, "The TSA does things all wrong." There is little doubt that *something* like the TSA should exist. There is a demonstrated need for *something*. IMO, had we followed Israel's lead, we would be light years ahead of where we are now. I'm not saying that Israel necessarily ha...
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[15:36:38] <exec> 08└─If by "hostage" you mean "Palestinian child", Israel sees those as nuisances and good things to kill to stave off the demographic collapse of their ethnostate.
[15:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:41] <exec> 08└─A great many CIA employees are so very lazy that they spend all day, every day, year after year just reading the newspapers...
[15:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:43] <exec> 08└─If by "Palestinian", you mean the children now living in Palestine, Israel cherishes those children. Arabs and Muslims generally want to kill those children. Your post makes me wonder if you don't want to kill some Jewish children, as well.
[15:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:21] <exec> 08└─Hmm... are you saying that Putin's way of doing business is an order of magnitude more efficient than what the best minds of American investment (40% average return for 26 years is reported by Renaissance Technologies; that's return to investors, mind you, after expenses, which are highest in the in...
[15:38:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:22] <exec> 08└─Yep. I've long felt that marketing was a inherently evil field, designed with the explicit purpose of creating false poverty to motivate you to waste money buying things that won't actually improve your quality of life or satisfy the perceived lack they created, and thus reduce your true wealth.
[15:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:21] <exec> 08└─You've only worked pussy jobs then. Consider yourself lucky and don't comment on the subject.
[15:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:23] <exec> 08└─The constitution is part of the government and you worship it like a holy text even though you don't understand it. Somehow there are a lot of you.
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[16:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:38] <exec> 08└─Government regulation isn't responsible for most of the world's evils. It is, however, one of the world's evils.
[16:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:39] <exec> 08└─Maybe you are the one with the problem?
[16:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:41] <exec> 08└─Speak for yourself. I drive around and pay my bills with little green pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents on them every month.
[16:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:43] <exec> 08└─I LIKE!
[16:35:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:46] <exec> 08└─I LIKE EVEN MORE! :)
[16:35:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:48] <exec> 08└─> A historian would be able to better answer the question of how many decades it has been established as best practice to use a salted hash for passwords. And how do partial password implementations (which is, I think, standard in some form on all of the banking sites I use) work with your "best pra...
[16:35:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:50] <exec> 08└─The key determining factor is whether the eventual injury is "forseeable" - whether the original person could have reasonably forseen the action that actually caused the injury.
[16:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:09] <exec> 08└─The is a huge dose of racism in the motivation to make cannabis illegal. Cannabis is traditionally the drug of choice for many non-white communities, while alcohol is traditionally the drug of choice for white communities. Cannabis legislation causes blacks to be jailed in disproportional numbers.
[16:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:11] <exec> 08└─Cannabis is traditionally the drug of choice for many non-white communities, while alcohol is traditionally the drug of choice for white communities. Cannabis legislation causes blacks to be jailed in disproportional numbers.
[16:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Boeing Crewed Test Flight to the ISS May be Upgraded to a Full Mission - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:21] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this is a "shape up for ship out" threat to Boeing, you make this work now or we go to the competition.
[16:42:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SolarCity Debt: A Problem Tesla Doesn't Need Right Now - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:26] <exec> 08└─Just because the market allows something, that doesn't mean it's morally right. Having the right to quit isn't that valuable when you need to keep your medical benefits and there are no other employers offering enough money to cover your expenses. And if it's impossible for a business or industry to...
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[17:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:19] <exec> 08└─Lanzo's suit claimed Johnson & Johnson knew its products contained asbestos, but didn't properly warn its consumers.
[17:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:20] <exec> 08└─as-best-os: A good source of fiber for babies.
[17:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:23] <exec> 08└─No, no, no AS best OS! Been using it since 1988.
[17:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:51] <exec> 08└─What Kashmir did was a crime, even though the security of the MICR line is nil. That could get her deported.
[17:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:53] <exec> 08└─You'd immediately have nobody on the entire planet willing to take a CxO job at all. Things like this are why thinking with your feelz is flat retarded.
[17:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:55] <exec> 08└─Sure, Uzzard. Enjoy your radium toothpaste, dumbass...
[17:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:57] <exec> 08└─...really, dude? Really? You expect us to fall for that?
[17:35:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:00] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the market shifting :) We don't have too many buggy whip manufacturers either. Cry harder.
[17:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:02] <exec> 08└─At a top 5 CS university, passwords were until recently stored plaintext, supposedly because of interoperability reasons with legacy green screen services.
[17:36:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 1515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:04] <exec> 08└─It's one of the worlds evils, and it *can* be used to reduce many of the other of the worlds evils. Some example uses are standard weights and measures, regulations ensuring purity, etc. It's got lots of problems, but anarchy doesn't scale because reputation requires personal knowledge. Anarchy quic...
[17:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:06] <exec> 08└─We need to be clear on the role of government and this is a fair use of regulation. We already have baseline legal requirements for consumer contracts so you can sign credit agreements in confidence without having to hire a lawyer to go over the small print. Every time you click "I Agree" on a web s...
[17:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:08] <exec> 08└─thanks for paying for my credit card rewards!
[17:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:11] <exec> 08└─Actually, with a reasonable interpretation of "due diligence" you'd probably have lots of people willing to be CxOs. Just not quite the same selection, and that would probably be a benefit.
[17:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:13] <exec> 08└─You and I are on exactly the same page here. This is a realistic, rational, and experimentally-tested position to hold. Now how do we convince the idiots like Mr. Vim and Uzzard up there?
[17:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:15] <exec> 08└─here in a top 5 canadian U, they are AES encrypted for interoperablity but the password to the master key in plain text, however you need to have the code to uncypher them cause we do proper keys derivation. the master key is never directly use to encrypt or decrypt, to do so you need a cipher key d...
[17:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:36:36] <exec> 08└─I think the more likely reason is that it's still illegal to prescribe marijuana under federal law. Then once the patient does get a prescription, there can be issues with getting it filled. Also keep in mind that prescribing pain medication has become a massive pain and is getting more and more com...
[17:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:51] <exec> 08└─So by your same logic, nobody would willingly go into pornography, stripping, or anything else related to combining business and sex. And yet, they do: I know some folks who do those kinds of jobs, and they've at least never let on that they were particularly unhappy doing that job. For example, I w...
[17:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Surgeon General Urges More Americans to Carry Naloxone - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:12] <exec> 08└─And some of it is because of stuff like this: http://www.latimes.com [latimes.com] But OxyContin’s stunning success masked a fundamental problem: The drug wears off hours early in many people, a Los Angeles Times investigation found. OxyContin is a chemical cousin of hero...
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[18:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:23] <exec> 08└─johnson and johnson: a family (killing) company.
[18:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:24] <exec> 08└─Stupid amounts of money to a couple of random people, based on weak facts but lots of emotion. The great American justice lottery system at work. This will be appealed, of course. Most likely, in the end, the only winners will be the lawyers...
[18:35:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:45] <exec> 08└─Better idea: make them pay personally, and then when they inevitably go bankrupt, THEN send them to jail, so they get out penniless and have to experience life as working-poor.
[18:36:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03HiThere [866] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 1515 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:00] <exec> 08└─It's one of the worlds evils, and it *can* be used to reduce many of the other of the worlds evils. Some example uses are standard weights and measures, regulations ensuring purity, etc. It's got lots of problems, but anarchy doesn't scale because reputation requires personal knowledge. Anarchy quic...
[18:36:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:06] <exec> 08└─At the moment of decision, implementation, general release. Whichever comes first
[18:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 521 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:09] <exec> 08└─If you don't want government regulation then move to Somalia. (Oh, wait, warlords == government regulation. Shit.) Otherwise, shut the fuck up and pay for the society that is supporting you. Fucking leeches like you are the reason the Fascist States of Amerika became the Fascist States of Amerika. I...
[18:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:11] <exec> 08└─...and maybe even before that, given the existence of Heartbleed, Shellshock, Spectre, etc. Treble penalties for sending over a network interface.
[18:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:13] <exec> 08└─Someone found and PoC'd an XSS on their website on Friday night. It was also reported they are running comically old versions of the Linux kernel, PHP, and Apache. I suspect their database is already floating around on at least one invite only "dark" web forum. I'm thinking some time late next week...
[18:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:15] <exec> 08└─Governments are mere proxies. They represent somebody else. They are just following orders from the people that finance and sustain them. It is truly pure capitalism. Some markets are just more open than others. And *cui bono* is universal. The lipstick cannot hide that.
[18:36:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:18] <exec> 08└─Don't get your panties in such a wad.
[18:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:20] <exec> 08└─It means society without rulers. You cannot have both rulers and rules; you must choose.
[18:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:22] <exec> 08└─That is some Deepak-Chopra-level deepity horseshit. Do you even think about the things you say before you post them?
[18:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:24] <exec> 08└─Anarchy quickly evolves into warlordism You haven't noticed what democracy devolves into? I mean, it's not like we haven't seen it before. And you could just read the book Lord of the Flies. Anarchism simply implies 'rules without rulers', something that might not be possible in the physical univers...
[18:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:36:46] <exec> 08└─Hearst is responsible for this mess. Hearst had vested interests in things which hemp competed with, such as synthetic fiber and wood pulp. So hearst ran an insane disinformation campaign to try to demonize Hemp, in his papers. These manias can take on a life of their own. It is very similar to the...
[18:38:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Missing Atlanta CDC Researcher Found Dead in Chattahoochee River - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:18] <exec> 08└─i like how the main stream media always tells us "conspiracy theories" have been "debunked" but never points to that oh so solid evidence. as if we're going to believe the freaking media whores. like it would be hard to "brief" the family prior to any press releases going out.
[18:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:08] <exec> 08└─Writing software comes with the risk of increased likelihood of heart-failure, obesity, hair-loss and arthritis.
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[19:35:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:20] <exec> 08└─Trump will successfully make peace between N and S Korea, a plan they themselves desperately want, and we will be sold the lie that Trump is a peace making wonder boy. It'll be Obama's Nobel Peace Prize all over again!
[19:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:22] <exec> 08└─At least then he would have done SOMETHING, even if that something was merely not screwing up an easy win (I don't really believe this is the case but whatever). The Peace Prize was awarded for doing absolutely nothing but winning an election.
[19:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:24] <exec> 08└─It's straight out of the Kim Jong playbook: Delay, get concessions, delay some more, renege, build the next level of WMDs.
[19:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:26] <exec> 08└─The leaders of North Korea and South Korea could separately take you aside privately, tell you that peace is all due to Trump, and you wouldn't believe it. You're blinded by hate. South Korea has in fact already credited Trump. Clearly, previous tactics were not working at all.
[19:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:28] <exec> 08└─The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonprolifera...
[19:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:40] <exec> 08└─Eh, I personally really like precedents set that force corporate responsibility. Too many businesses hide their bad practices then throw lots of money at lawyers to get rid of lawsuits. You more conservative types tend to be all about personal responsibility EXCEPT for any profit motivated business....
[19:35:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:42] <exec> 08└─In part, that's a result of the federal government claiming and then shirking it's responsibility to the people and leaving it to individual court cases. It's really not controversial that asbestos in fine particle form can cause huge medical problems. It's also not controversial that at least until...
[19:36:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 54 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:13] <exec> 08└─Sure, Uzzard. Enjoy your radium toothpaste, dumbass...
[19:36:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 102 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:15] <exec> 08└─Sounds like the market shifting :) We don't have too many buggy whip manufacturers either. Cry harder.
[19:36:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03HiThere [866] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 189 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:21] <exec> 08└─Actually, with a reasonable interpretation of "due diligence" you'd probably have lots of people willing to be CxOs. Just not quite the same selection, and that would probably be a benefit.
[19:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:33] <exec> 08└─You pay for them too, in the form of higher APR, and also the price of things don't go up just for cash payers. In fact, some stores give a discount for paying cash.
[19:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:35] <exec> 08└─Try to find a ruler that obeys the rules. Not that we should follow the example, but monkey see, monkey do... Anyone who complains about the government needs only to look at the voters. Everything else is a waste of time and a distraction, and psychological case of denial.
[19:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:37] <exec> 08└─I drive around Thanks! My Saudi oil buddies love ya, man!
[19:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:39] <exec> 08└─If it weren’t for the FDA, people would be eating dirt and chairs!
[19:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:41] <exec> 08└─You'd immediately have nobody on the entire planet willing to take a CxO job at all.
[19:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:44] <exec> 08└─Not even jail. Put him on work release. Bring back chain gangs and medical experiments on prisoners, keep them alive forever and put a web cam in their cell. Bathe them in 50F water from the fire hose. But seriously, we do need to put these people into the poorhouse and disperse their assets and est...
[19:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:46] <exec> 08└─some jackass windows user doesn't know what a troll is. also, the op is correct. the only way it's the gov's business is when it's fraud. otherwise, don't be such a dumb ass.
[19:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:48] <exec> 08└─I feel a public key crypto solution could be created without having the users password needing to be stored, and the legacy app getting a completely random password based on its requirements.
[19:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:11] <exec> 08└─"The doctors I know at least have a deep sense of professional ethics" while they (perhaps blindly) poison their patients with all manner of fraudulent and misleading medicines.
[19:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:12] <exec> 08└─Apparently, you missed the use of "traditionally" in my post. Perhaps "historically" would have been better?
[19:37:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:14] <exec> 08└─race has little to do with it these days. it's more about hooverin' up the poor to make room for condos and to further shrink the middle class by making them pay for it all. most of the masters care not for the color of the slave.
[19:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:17] <exec> 08└─yes, this is the crux of the issue. that people allow the government to dictate what they can ingest or treat ailments with. it's beyond ridiculous.
[19:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:19] <exec> 08└─It's still federally illegal(which is retarded) It is not retarded. It is business, operating under very exclusive conditions. And now more people want to *wet their beaks*. The thing with weed is that it requires very little infrastructure for individual cultivation, which limits its profit potenti...
[19:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 843 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:21] <exec> 08└─I've looked at several recent studies that have said the data is inconclusive for cancer and other serious damage to lungs. (But lesser respiratory problems are common, including chronic ones.) Cancer studies are notoriously difficult because cancer often takes so long to develop and there are so ma...
[19:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:37:59] <exec> 08└─no, the right thing to do would be to demand the truth about the towers and everything else. no talks on new powers or any legislation until the truth is known.
[19:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DHS Spokesman Dismisses Criticism of Journalist Database - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:00] <exec> 08└─"traitor, betraying the service" Soldiers swear an oath to the law, not to the brotherhood. Contrary to what you seem to believe, they have a duty to expose crimes, not to cover them up.
[19:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:14] <exec> 08└─MDC is correct, we are stardust, and the heavier elements, especially the iron that makes up a large part of Terra, are the products of novae and super-novae. I just thought he did not make it clear that he was not talking about Sol, our sun, which is fairly young as stars go, and hasn't exploded ye...
[19:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06'Being Cash-Free Puts Us at Risk of Attack': Swedes Turn Against Cashlessness - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:37] <exec> 08└─i don't know about hemp powered cars, but monero and linux desktop adoption would be a big improvement. too bad people seem to "quite enjoy their servitude" (Aldous Huxley Berkeley interview)
[19:40:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 385 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:16] <exec> 08└─I don't care if there was actual sex trafficking going on there. Shutting down the entire website merely because of that is blatantly unconstitutional. The whole happy hooker idea is something that's far less common than people like you suggest, assuming there are any at all. Being a prostitute isn'...
[19:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:46] <exec> 08└─Point in case - at almost the same time Sweden outlawed prostitution and Germany outlawed pimping. Guess which country saw a huge increase in women willing to sell sex?
[19:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Reflection of a QR Code on PoS Scanner Used to Own Mobile Payments - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:43] <exec> 08└─How can the retailer set a price if the QR code placed by the manufacturer is used as price point ? Seems like an idea that would float in an economy that was dominated by government sponsored manufacturing and not by market set pricing. Not to mention everyone would have to have a device capable of...
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[20:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. and North Korean Representatives Holding Secret Talks to Plan for Summit - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:25] <exec> 08└─Blinded by hate? Lol, sorry but I'm being way more of a realist than you are. Politics has leaders thanking leaders, politically crediting the actual diplomats and analysts would cause problems. Most any other president could handle it, but Trump would blow his stack if he wasn't made out to be the...
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[20:35:26] <exec> 08└─Trump hires the diplomats. Well, lots of them are held up by democrats refusing to allow confirmation votes, but aside from that assholery they are simply chosen by Trump. Trump also tells the diplomats what to do. He can fire them if they disobey his orders. Foreign policy has been much more active...
[20:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:38] <exec> 08└─You think with your feelz all the fucking time, otherwise you'd be capable of walking back when people prove you wrong. But those feelz have a death grip on your brain, so taxes == theft, etc. Here's a stone bub, try not to break your own house.
[20:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:39] <exec> 08└─My usual summary of the issue: 1. To say government can do no wrong is stupid, because government can and has done wrong. Furthermore, that belief means the government will have your support regardless of whether it does right or does wrong, giving it no incentive to do right. 2. To say government c...
[20:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:41] <exec> 08└─As I mentioned 2 days ago [soylentnews.org], the proof of how little harm security breaches really do to major companies is that Equifax's stock just closed right about where it was a year ago, despite losing basically every adult American's entire identity information in between. New slogan: "We Do...
[20:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:44] <exec> 08└─Didn't say it wasn't a necessary evil. I'm libertarian not stupid.
[20:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:46] <exec> 08└─Call it what you like, someone has to sit in the big chair and make the hard decisions. And they're going to want paid and paid well for it.
[20:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:49] <exec> 08└─I want you to consider how many lawsuits get found for the complainant in this nation every year on the grounds of negligence. People aren't that negligent but hindsight is always 20/20.
[20:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:51] <exec> 08└─Prove me wrong on something and we'll know.
[20:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:20] <exec> 08└─But note that smoking is just one way to ingest cannabis. Edibles, extracts, and vaporizing are becoming more popular even among recreational users.
[20:37:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:22] <exec> 08└─You don't have to fuck up your lungs, get burn spots on your stuff, and support violent dealers. You can get a prescription for normal pills: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] If that won't do, then "medical" is a lie.
[20:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:24] <exec> 08└─Marijuana is a gateway drug to harder drugs. It has 0 medicinal use. The US does not need more stupid pot heads and other substance abusers. Fix the societal problems, and the root for substance abuse disappears.
[20:37:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Immerman [3985] 02 - 06Boeing Crewed Test Flight to the ISS May be Upgraded to a Full Mission - 836 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:33] <exec> 08└─If there's a life-ending problem it's probably going to be on the way up, or maybe on the way down. If something goes wrong while they're docked at the ISS, they can (hopefully) evacuate to the station. Basically, if people are risking their lives going up and down, they can at least do something us...
[20:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Boeing Crewed Test Flight to the ISS May be Upgraded to a Full Mission - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:37:37] <exec> 08└─What rocket is the Boeing capsule going on? That's very important. The rocket has to be human rated. When did the SpaceX rocket get signed off to carry humans?
[20:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, I know all that (well, I didn't get the impression that he was talking about our sun)... I was just adding that core collapse isn't the only mechanism for supernovas, which was something he wondered aloud about and which you addressed. I was just mentioning another detail.
[20:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:14] <exec> 08└─Is this what happened to Ethanol_fueled's journals on being perma-banned? Except it is not Facebook, it is SN doing this? Pot, Kettle, etc., etc. Is EF now shadow-banned as was as perma-banned and just generally troll-banned?
[20:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Tampering With Users’ Inboxes - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:15] <exec> 08└─Evidence?
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[21:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYPD Settles Surveillance Case with New Jersey Muslim Groups - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:19] <exec> 08└─The NYPD will also allow the New Jersey plaintiffs to recommend changes to the NYPD's training policies as they pertain to religion and the First Amendment.
[21:35:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 420 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:44] <exec> 08└─In part, that's a result of the federal government claiming and then shirking it's responsibility to the people and leaving it to individual court cases. It's really not controversial that asbestos in fine particle form can cause huge medical problems. It's also not controversial that at least until...
[21:36:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 367 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:04] <exec> 08└─Oh, but that would be a Violently-Imposed Monopoly, and we can't have THAT *rolls eyes* The guy you're replying to is a borderline-spammer with some kind of axe to grind that makes him post on every single goddamn thread about how SOMEHOW government or regulation or suchlike is responsible for all t...
[21:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:51] <exec> 08└─Holy Moses, that is a nice clean fastball right down the center line over home plate just asking to be hit so far out of the park it'll need peanuts and tiny bottles of liquor on it, LOL.
[21:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:52] <exec> 08└─What drugs are you on?
[21:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:37:25] <exec> 08└─There are hundreds of different chemicals in pot, and oral administration metabolizes differently than smoking, which goes quickly into the bloodstream. This is an apples and oranges comparison. The purified, standardized drugs may have their place; but we have a lot to learn about the synergies tha...
[21:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dead Star Circled By Light - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:38:21] <exec> 08└─I'm not 100% certain but I recall hearing that stars could produce elements above iron through some quantum effects. Not nearly as much as a supernova but still.
[21:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Can't Help Without Your Data, Says Gartner, So Share, Share, Share! - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:54] <exec> 08└─That's because they actually want artificial intelligence. [wikipedia.org] That it, they want to spy on you.
[21:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FBI Seizes backpage.com and Affiliates - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:58] <exec> 08└─By pure coincidence, I'm watching the BBC's /Louis Theroux Dark States/ E02 /Trafficking Sex/, and backpage.com featured quite prominantly in the program. I'd never heard of it before, not that I would have had any reason to. Not one of his best documentaries, very few surprises, and not even gut-wr...
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[22:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06NYPD Settles Surveillance Case with New Jersey Muslim Groups - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:22] <exec> 08└─nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger
[22:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06NYPD Settles Surveillance Case with New Jersey Muslim Groups - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:24] <exec> 08└─Mushroom, MUSHROOM!
[22:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYPD Settles Surveillance Case with New Jersey Muslim Groups - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:26] <exec> 08└─Nah, they are seriously going to end religious-based surveillance.... in favor of EVERYONE-based surveillance!
[22:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Johnson & Johnson Loses New Jersey Talc Cancer Case - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:52] <exec> 08└─As crazy as it seems sometimes, this is not a lottery I want to "win". I used baby powder when I was younger. My Mom used it on me too, including that pre-1976 period. I don't have lung cancer. I hope I never get it. I don't want to "win". I won't shed a tear if baby powder is off the market. There...
[22:36:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Gaaark [41] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 727 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:08] <exec> 08└─and as long as the outcome of the breach is cheaper than what you pay for security, "What, me worry?" The company doesn't REEEALLLLY care if your cc info, personal info, password etc is taken so long as they can make it all balance to the positive on the balance sheet. As SOON as that balance sheet...
[22:36:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 822 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:52] <exec> 08└─My usual summary of the issue: 1. To say government can do no wrong is stupid, because government can and has done wrong. Furthermore, that belief means the government will have your support regardless of whether it does right or does wrong, giving it no incentive to do right. 2. To say government c...
[22:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 747 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:00] <exec> 08└─The thing is, hashing passwords is so easy and is such a basic security practice that not doing so is a clear failure to take "reasonable precautions". Also, breaches happen so often (literally every other day) that of course it is a "foreseeable" event. It happens much more often than, say, people...
[22:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Medical Cannabis Still Faces Many Hurdles in the U.S. - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:34] <exec> 08└─*slow clap*
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[22:37:46] <exec> 08└─-Boeing's launcher is Atlas V https://blogs.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] As of January 2018 the SpaceX Dragon V2.0 is scheduled for an uncrewed test fl...
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[23:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NYPD Settles Surveillance Case with New Jersey Muslim Groups - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:25] <exec> 08└─The NYPD will [pay damages and] pledge to end religious-based surveillance, as part of a settlement with New Jersey Muslims
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[23:36:13] <exec> 08└─Actually what would change things is if CxOs start going to prison for their crimes. Fines aren't really a big problem when in most/all cases it's just the Government taking their cut of the profits. Why punish hundreds or thousands of people when you could just punish the people responsible? If you...
[23:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:05] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised, Computer Science is almost entirely unrelated to Computer Engineering (Software or Hardware) or Information Technology. It's like expecting a Math department to know whether their building conforms to civil engineering standards, and to be able to rectify any problems that exist.
[23:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:07] <exec> 08└─Exactly why they need to be made to care: hit them in the balance sheet and in their own personal wallets. Make it so rough, it's more worth their while to do things correctly AND morally right than it is to fuck people and get away with it. TOO many executives are getting mere slaps on the wrists....
[23:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:09] <exec> 08└─Try it. I guarantee you I've put more thought into any political or economic topic than you have.
[23:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:11] <exec> 08└─That's where their employment contracts come in. Tie their personal earnings to the company's profits starting from zero on both. This isn't a problem with the CEOs or the law, it's a problem with the boards of directors who do the hiring not being worth a shit at their jobs.
[23:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:13] <exec> 08└─So you are not really a Libertarian, you are an anarchist.
[23:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At What Point Does Storing Passwords in Plaintext Become Criminally Negligent - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:15] <exec> 08└─What gives you that idea?
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