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[00:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:17:07] <exec> 08└─> strangely assume that none will be patriotic to their country of origin. When given the amazing opportunity to live and work in the Greatest Country On Earth (TM), why would anyone do anything against it? Don't be silly ...
[00:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:17:23] <exec> 08└─phone Laptop Ipad Tablet Things that switch between (removable keyboards) And now.. giant tablets that kind of act like phones. Provided the graphics cards aren't crap, they will be okay for Skype and facetwitgram, so they really will be competing with "normal" sim card tablets. If enough people hat...
[00:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:17:25] <exec> 08└─No, no! The real problem with "Windows RT" was that "RT" is not a cool enough set of letters. Luckily, Apple has already paved the way by naming a version "S" and all Microsoft has to do is follow. Success is guaranteed!
[00:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:17:27] <exec> 08└─S ? Seriously ? Even Apple considers "S" to be low-end. I demand these tablets run Linux FX GTO XP or at least Linux 2 Alpha Turbo Prime.
[00:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:06] <exec> 08└─I get a lot of coverage by the media. Because I'm good looking, smart, with a great personality. I'm the least boring person in the entire world. I don't always like the things they say, when they do the Fake News. But they did a lot to get me elected. Even the negative coverage. For a politician, g...
[00:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:08] <exec> 08└─In the aftermath, there have been significant patching problems, including an AMD patch that briefly prevented Windows computers from booting up.
[00:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:10] <exec> 08└─Yes, current software age is very similar to times when cold was treated by a mixture of cocaine and morphine. It is very effective - costs and otherwise - and enjoyable. Unfortunately, those times are gone. Similarly "free" approach to software development will be gone one day. BTW, when Congress s...
[00:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Disagree) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:12] <exec> 08└─Its not congress's job to be involved. If there is criminal behavior, then get DOJ involved, if not, its commerce and they can mind their own business, and get back to work.
[00:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03dbe [1422] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:15] <exec> 08└─Ask and you shall be answered... https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Basically this guy did exactly that, looking at holes in the binary instruction code tables and "glitches" in the application notes where the PDF tables cells were left blanks... Then using fuzzing to create n...
[00:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:18:59] <exec> 08└─And what's the Captain going to do when he reports to his superiors that his crew isn't up to the task, and they say "too bad, you have a mission, now do it"? Why do you absolve the Captain's superiors of all responsibility and place it solely on the Captain?
[00:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:00] <exec> 08└─Because Captains are considered to be on duty at all times until they are relieved. They may not be on watch or have the conn, but they are always on duty. Therefore, they are always in command of the ship and always responsible for what happens to it.
[00:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:03] <exec> 08└─Where is your sense of tradition? Keelhaul them.
[00:19:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 430 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:57] <exec> 08└─More Reps voted for the DMCA than Dems. [govtrack.us] While I'm no fan of the (historical*) Dem position on copyright the worst you can say about them is they're almost as bad as the Reps on that issue. *With the recent left wing backlash against things like SOPA I doubt the Dems are nearly as align...
[00:20:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 310 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:01] <exec> 08└─But if the threat of Trump gets them to temporarily align their actions with something that might accidentally be good for voters, then again I'd have to say Trump has been better in the Whitehouse than Hillary would have been. And somehow you'll still say this with a straight face on the day Trump...
[00:20:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 65 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:07] <exec> 08└─What party was it that appointed this guy to the FCC? Republicans
[00:20:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 306 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:09] <exec> 08└─He's not going to "own it," and for pretty much the same reason all these shithead politicians never "own it" when they fuck up: ego. The darkly hilarious part of this is that he thinks he's somehow different from them deep down. I guess the horseshoe effect works for individuals as well as collecti...
[00:20:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 357 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:13] <exec> 08└─Obama originally didn't want net neutrality. Obama was campaigning on Net Neutrality as far back as 2008. (that was his first campaign since you seem to be lacking some historical knowledge)"“I will take a backseat to no one in my commitment to network neutrality,” [youtube.com] Support network...
[00:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:20:31] <exec> 08└─I voted anti-incumbent on all congressional races except the one guy that was running unopposed; I voted Donald Duck there.
[00:21:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:21:14] <exec> 08└─When a warranty is transferable, it means you are not decreasing the resale value by voiding it.
[00:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03GDX [1950] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:55] <exec> 08└─In experience is that 10 years is to much to analyze music, normally I see 1 year and perhaps 2 years of good music an then is goes worsening for 3 to 6 years until almost all the new music is bad. But being true is not really that bad as music as is more a mediocre canned music trying to imitate th...
[00:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03marcello_dl [2685] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:57] <exec> 08└─That cannot be a good candidate for compression, if it were you would Lameness filter encountered. Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. I hit it with "din daa daa", so I will post the second entry till the filter lets me Ai Laßt d...
[00:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ford to Invest $11 Billion in Electric Vehicles and Produce 40 Hybrid and Electric Models by 2022 - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:27] <exec> 08└─2. The electrical grid cannot currently support the equivalent amount of energy that is currently used by cars in the form of petroleum products. Even if everyone wanted to dump their gas-powered cars and buy electric cars right now, the infrastructure could not support it.
[00:23:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 51 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:23:40] <exec> 08└─DON"T DEPEND ON CAPITALISTS TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT
[00:24:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:53] <exec> 08└─Using "socialist" incorrectly just makes you look stupid. Here's Socialism: The collective ownership of the means of production by The Workers. That has zero overlap with violent nationalist racists. It's sad how much Cold War bullshit USAians have swallowed. patriotic types "Make America White agai...
[00:24:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:54] <exec> 08└─Well ideally the knowledgeable person will be elected to lead the project. The carpenter leading the framing crew, the electrician leading the wiring crew, the accountant looking after the books and the software engineer handling the software, with the one the group agrees is the best being the lead...
[00:24:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:56] <exec> 08└─Bunch of splitters!
[00:24:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:24:58] <exec> 08└─Did you sing "Look on the Bright Side of Life" when he was crucified?
[00:25:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:01] <exec> 08└─look [at] Linux and imagine where will it be with a democratic governance You mean like Debian, which has adopted systemd? N.B. In contrast, elsewhere in the (meta)thread, I have linked to Switzerland's brand of Direct Democracy. There, a decision made by "government" can be rescinded by popular vot...
[00:25:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:03] <exec> 08└─You have a better grasp of human nature than the woo-woo thing that c0lo has. The Workers that I have encountered want to get the stuff done in the best way, get their compensation, and move on to the next task. Putting the most-able guy in charge expedites this. Thinking that Socialism queers that...
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[01:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:03] <exec> 08└─They're going to GNOMEify it. The backwash from mobile/touch design has covered the desktop in festering garbage. We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[01:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:04] <exec> 08└─Please don't try to do whatever you tried to do to Firefox...
[01:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:06] <exec> 08└─Outlooks flow works decently. Apple, gmail, outlook.com. Now THOSE are a pain in the ass to use. They basically have eudoras. Which is alright. But kinda of meh and seems lacking. I knew that was true when QCOM basically told everyone to stop using it. It is fine to use if you know how. But it has a...
[01:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:08] <exec> 08└─I liked Eudora
[01:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:11] <exec> 08└─Yes but it suffers from high information density. I prefer low information density, acres of whitespace, and I love scrolling. Ideally there should be nothing but a picture of a businessman on the phone above-the-fold. In case you can't tell I am being sarcastic. No more apples in the vending machin...
[01:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:13] <exec> 08└─It took 10 years to get most of the bugs out and the interface stabilized to the point where it is usable, even if not fully intuitive. Just leave it the fuck alone for godsake. I doubt these guys are smart enough to add something make client side encryption automatic and easy without plugins. They...
[01:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:15] <exec> 08└─It must be time to crap all over the user interface! C'mon. Just leave it be. Thunderbird is about the only thing that hasn't been ruined in the last decade. About a year ago I nearly switched to alpine. Got it working, used it a while, wanted to make some minor tweaks but put it on the back burner....
[01:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:17] <exec> 08└─Oh great. So what is a proper replacement for Thunderbird since this is probably the prelude to the eventual massive design fuckup.
[01:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:29] <exec> 08└─Check your collectivism.
[01:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:17:31] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a number of palms are about to be greased. So it goes.
[01:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:18:34] <exec> 08└─Scale that to several thousand machines in a Typical Google or Amazon Data Center. [amazonaws.com]. How would you even know this was happening? I would thing Amazon would be more at risk for this than Google, because Amazon rents you machines, real or virtual, for your own use, whereas most of googl...
[01:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:18:36] <exec> 08└─For some people all problems are Jewish problems.
[01:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:18:38] <exec> 08└─I think there is enough colossal fuckup to go around there. If I were AMD after what happened in linux world I would have flown 10 top engs out to redmond and made sure THEY got it right too...
[01:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:18:40] <exec> 08└─It's just a big head line, so the politicians are grabbing onto it.
[01:18:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:18:43] <exec> 08└─Well, yes, in a purely evil world. But look we are talking about Intel here. Made up of smart people, but not blindingly so. Not god like or devil like. Just ordinary nerds who like beer and football an nice cars, and good looking women. They change jobs, retire, get fired at similar rates to other...
[01:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:31] <exec> 08└─He'll never be the captain of one of those either.
[01:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03leftover [2448] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:32] <exec> 08└─Somebody please tell me the Navy does not use computer UX practices to control helm and rudder -- please? And the ability to shift control around without it being obvious? Shit. I haven't been on the bridge of a warship since mid 1970's but I can recall the benefit of having a great big brass wheel...
[01:20:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:20:29] <exec> 08└─There is little to nothing to distinguish them. And they'll keep repeating this lie even in a thread about 100% of Dems trying to do the right thing while 98% of the Reps try to do the wrong thing.
[01:23:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03marcello_dl [2685] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:25] <exec> 08└─but the winner is Dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo dildo...
[01:23:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ford to Invest $11 Billion in Electric Vehicles and Produce 40 Hybrid and Electric Models by 2022 - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:23:56] <exec> 08└─> ... The convenience of recharging at home Easy for you, homeowner with garage. What about all the people that rent, and/or live where the only parking is on-street? The transition to "all electric" is a long ways off.
[01:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:27] <exec> 08└─Well ideally the knowledgeable person will be elected to lead the project.
[01:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:29] <exec> 08└─I have linked to Switzerland's brand of Direct Democracy.
[01:25:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Don’t Let Upload Filters Undermine the Public Domain - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:50] <exec> 08└─So every sound recording ever made is subject to copyright even if the owner is dead and the heirs don't care to enforce it.
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[02:17:23] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Justin Case [4239] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 312 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:23] <exec> 08└─Fuck the fucking fuckers to fucking hell! I just took the survey (in my radiation-shielded browser that runs fucking scripts) and it is clear the way they've stacked the questions that they've already decided. "Is this interface boring or exciting?" IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO EXCITE ME Just deliver the g...
[02:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:25] <exec> 08└─Mutt
[02:17:26] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03black6host [3827] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 785 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:27] <exec> 08└─You may be right regarding the massive fuckup. Here's what I'd be concerned about: Does the cruft they speak of include functionality of any sort? The reason I ask this is because, as a developer for many years and a user of other's work, I discovered that the functionality I thought I was providing...
[02:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:29] <exec> 08└─Emacs
[02:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:32] <exec> 08└─No no no, you're being over excited now. The question was whether the UI was inspiring. Other than that I'm with you 100% on this. The current UI is full-featured and works well. I don't want it prettified, spaceified or dumbed down further.
[02:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:34] <exec> 08└─I may have relegated a feature to an obscure menu but I made sure it remained for those few who used it and built their workflow around it.
[02:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:36] <exec> 08└─> It took 10 years to get most of the bugs out and the interface stabilized Therefore running out of interesting bugs to fix, and not using $Fashionable_platform and $Marketable_new_language. If it ain't broken, and it ain't changing, it's great for users, not for programmers.
[02:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:38] <exec> 08└─If you look at the pictures, one thing I immediately noticed is that the screenshots were taken on screens with different resolutions. This makes the old version (on the smaller screen) appear to be more cluttered and with more dead space, as the padding is physically larger on the smaller screen.
[02:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:40] <exec> 08└─there's some way to do that that I long ago forgot. For TB to get the junk filtering right, you need to declare Not Junk a whole bunch of your legitimate mail.
[02:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:43] <exec> 08└─... For God's sake, LEAVE IT ALONE. It's not broken. When you attempt to fix what's not broken, you usually wind up screwing it up.
[02:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:17:45] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[02:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:18:15] <exec> 08└─I demand these tablets run Linux FX GTO XP or at least Linux 2 Alpha Turbo Prime.
[02:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:54] <exec> 08└─Bad news I'm afraid. They converted it all to windoze years ago.
[02:20:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 329 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:33] <exec> 08└─It took quite a while (decades) for telephone to be mandated as an essential service to be delivered to all homes regardless of how remote, and at an affordable price. And that was in a regulated monopoly atmosphere that allowed long distance charges to be > 10 hours of minimum wage pay for 1 hour o...
[02:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:21:22] <exec> 08└─Among the dumbest political decisions you can possibly make is to assume that a political party is either (a) always right, or (b) always wrong.
[02:22:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:06] <exec> 08└─Wired in right along with the essential operation of the EV .. is all the spy capability. How else would Tesla magically "grant" extra battery power to its users fleeing the hurricane last year? Over the air update to cars reporting from a specific zone. You can't pull the spybox or take out its fus...
[02:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:08] <exec> 08└─Too bad it can't be designed and built by Lucas.
[02:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:10] <exec> 08└─Sometimes it takes another set of eyes to find that GPS tracker on your car.
[02:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:57] <exec> 08└─...for the best governance of USofA ...when you have a media whose job it is to inform the public. When you have the Lamestream Media that USA has, whose job it is to maximize profits for The Ownership Class, you get Drumpf. I've mentioned the statement by CBS's CEO numerous times. They knew perfect...
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[03:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:04] <exec> 08└─This is the one crime for which our constitution lays out the punishment. He is to die. Unfortunately, he can die for at most one of the crimes. We can't very well bring him back to life and then kill him again. Multiple people are now dead because of him, and so he ought to die multiple times. What...
[03:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:05] <exec> 08└─https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-cia-officer-arrested-retaining-classified-information [justice.gov] Lee made his initial appearance this afternoon in the Eastern District of New York. He is charged with unlawful retention of national defense information and faces a maximum penalty of 10 years...
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[03:17:13] <exec> 08└─Aah, everybody, get on the floor Let's dance Don't fight the feeling Give yourself a chance Reboot reboot, reboot reboot Reboot your booty, reboot your booty Oh, reboot reboot, reboot reboot Reboot your booty, reboot your booty Aah, You can, you can do it Very well You're the best in the world I can...
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[03:17:15] <exec> 08└─Ass
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[03:17:17] <exec> 08└─Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted! Filter error: Missing Comment. Edit Comment You are not logged in. You can log in now using the convenient form below, or Create an Account, or post as Anonymous Coward. Nick Password Public Terminal Name Anonymous Coward [ Create an Account ] Subject Comme...
[03:17:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 432 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:29] <exec> 08└─It took 10 years to get most of the bugs out and the interface stabilized to the point where it is usable, even if not fully intuitive. Just leave it the fuck alone for godsake. I doubt these guys are smart enough to add something make client side encryption automatic and easy without plugins. They...
[03:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:44] <exec> 08└─"Is this interface boring or exciting?" Boring is good, exciting is bad, when it comes to UIs.
[03:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:45] <exec> 08└─"And of course the survey page is a vomitorium of CSS and scripts and horrendously bloated inscrutable code. Yeah, these are the people I want tinkering with Thunderbird." 1360 lines of junk to render a blank page. Utter incompetence. What do you expect from the people that ruined Firefox? 
[03:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:48] <exec> 08└─In addition, one version shows active events and the other doesn't. Some fucker is trying to put their thumb on the scale.
[03:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:50] <exec> 08└─I think you may be correct that, as usual, the Gnomists* already have their unusable build with the flat look and silly defaults in the wings. As a formailty, before clicking 'commit' to CVS / GiT / whatever, they "run a user survey." At this moment, Thunderbird is working fine for me. They should p...
[03:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 1134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:17:52] <exec> 08└─Pick the rightmost option, the 7, for everything about the old UI. Pick the leftmost option, the 1, for everything about the new UI. Oh yeah, the old one is so simple and modern and exciting! The new one is boring, obsolete, and confusing! There are open-ended questions. We should all demand these f...
[03:18:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:18:03] <exec> 08└─The New AT&T is formerly Southwestern Bell and in reality Confederate Telephone. Trust those southern confederate rebels to be in cahoots with Chinese.
[03:20:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:02] <exec> 08└─If things are as dire as you suggest, then maybe those captains should be charting courses somewhere near the Snowden Sea. Let me check the charts again - where is Edward Harbor?
[03:20:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:03] <exec> 08└─Well, if that's actually true, I do hope those guys have the paper to cover their asses. Like repeated written requests for training and additional manpower that were denied by their superiors, written orders from higher up to keep their automatic locater systems off even in busy shipping lanes, and...
[03:21:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:32] <exec> 08└─Trump's victory has motivated activists more than Hillary's would have. There's more support for organizations such as the Justice Democrats and Our Revolution, which are trying to replace corporate democrats with better candidates to improve the party as a whole. It seems that when a democrat is in...
[03:21:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:34] <exec> 08└─This only works if the "grid operator" accounts for a small fraction of the total bill. If you put Comcast in as our "grid operator" we'll get arbitrary grid charge increases every 6 to 12 months amounting to 30% annual inflation.
[03:21:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:36] <exec> 08└─I know the fellow who negotiated the monopoly deal for internet service for the city of Brisbane for the period roughly 1996-2006... in his next job contract he had a "business class" clause - wouldn't go to the airport unless the company was paying for business class or better tickets. (In other wo...
[03:21:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:38] <exec> 08└─Evangelical Christians really hesitated to back Trump. What won them over was the supreme court issue, and Trump has delivered as promised. Evangelical Christians are liking Trump more today than they did when the election was held. Trump has now also: ordered the embassy in Israel to be moved, bloc...
[03:21:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:40] <exec> 08└─It appears my wish to be able to explain it to you has gone unfulfilled. I'll check my genie into the shop tomorrow morning.
[03:21:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:42] <exec> 08└─Yes. Let's all get real self righteous and prissy about a President that cared so much about justice and righteousness that he had Citibank literally choose his entire fucking Cabinet for him, before he even took office.
[03:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:17] <exec> 08└─...when you have a media whose job it is to inform the public.
[03:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:18] <exec> 08└─The page lists others. Your hyperbole has fallen flat (as usual). just as Mondragon (yes, I know, there are other successful cooperative[s] Had you not had your head stuck up a dark orifice so many times, you would have noticed the DOZENS of times that I have mentioned the thousands and thousands an...
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[04:17:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Apparition [6835] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:00] <exec> 08└─... Am looking forward to seeing more "If you liked this content, please subscribe to my Drip/Hatreon/Liberapay/Patreon" blurbs at the beginning and/or end of YouTube videos.
[04:17:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:02] <exec> 08└─The change from youtube was not in response to that clown; it was in response to all of the ElsaGate spammy channels aimed at children, so that they cant earn any money before they are discovered and shut-down. They have automated systems for reposting questionable content constantly, this gives the...
[04:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:11] <exec> 08└─This is yet another example: If the government retains a backdoor key into all encryption on American soil, the major governments of the world will have ready access to _ALL_ encrypted data of Americans. The government can simply not maintain secrecy of vital information -- not with CIA informants,...
[04:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:14] <exec> 08└─The proper crime is treason. Since people died, we could also throw in various manslaughter and murder charges. When you commit a felony and somebody dies as a result, it is typically considered the same as murder. In this case it was even worse; he had reason to believe that people would die as a r...
[04:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:25] <exec> 08└─Ass
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[04:17:27] <exec> 08└─Ugh, your rancid-as-fuck bootysnap is just too good! A fetid existenceness just squirted out some tadpole buddies deep into your feces womb. I wonder would sort of grand elixir this will create...?
[04:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:29] <exec> 08└─Eat corn and mushrooms for the chunky salsa turd experience.
[04:17:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 254 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:17:37] <exec> 08└─They're going to GNOMEify it. The backwash from mobile/touch design has covered the desktop in festering garbage. We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[04:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:14] <exec> 08└─The US isn't in the best place to be shining a spotlight on "hey, foreign-made software and hardware could in theory be deliberately compromised by their governments to secretly do bad stuff!" I mean, the NSA is still in business, and more than a few of their tricks are out of the bag recently. [wik...
[04:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:15] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor-state_dispute_settlement [wikipedia.org] Don't you just love "free trade"?
[04:21:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:21:50] <exec> 08└─Beep boop!
[04:21:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:21:51] <exec> 08└─Why do you want to cut things off at 2008? Is that, perhaps, a really convenient cut-off date?
[04:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:39] <exec> 08└─pi-holed: *.facebook.com
[04:22:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:22:40] <exec> 08└─And that Windows XP box gets pwned and every car that goes through there gets malware installed?
[04:24:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:25] <exec> 08└─That's old-school country. Now the thing is "bro" country, which is exactly what it sounds like. Mostly about how awesome it is to be country bro, having a good time, drinking beer, getting some action, etc. A lot of it sounds just like pop in terms of rhythm, pacing, flow, etc. except with "country...
[04:24:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Cloud to Add Five New Regions With Three New Undersea Cables to Support It - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:24:37] <exec> 08└─What with the ISPs sitting on our taxpayer money and decidedly not building out infrastructure, one day we might wake up and find that Google actually owns a majority of Internet infrastructure. I'm not sure if that would be an improvement or not.
[04:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:33] <exec> 08└─(note: mate, I expect better from you than foul language. Please behave and we can continue to have a dialog. Otherwise, I'll relegate you in my personal "don't care" category. Pay attention to my posts, those that aren't grinning at least, and see that I value cooperation more than competition, the...
[04:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:35] <exec> 08└─It boils down to: human nature does not guarantee the success of socialism - even if it does not guarantee its failure.
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[05:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:17:06] <exec> 08└─This seems rather tough. As a user, I've never seen a need to subscribe to a channel and never expect to.
[05:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:17:08] <exec> 08└─Seems to me there are going be a shit load of jobs watching YouTube submissions. Wonder what Alphabet is paying?
[05:17:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:17:56] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[05:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:04] <exec> 08└─I am genuinely interested in email client alternatives if anyone does know of one.
[05:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:06] <exec> 08└─At least on my box currently you click a small icon of flame to mark a post spam and click it again to mark it not spam. I get very few spams to my obscure email addy and mostly they haven't been marked so.
[05:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:08] <exec> 08└─Why did I have to click through 3 pages in order to arrive at the actual survey?
[05:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:10] <exec> 08└─Dude! ARE YOU FUCKING THIS UP?!
[05:18:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:18:25] <exec> 08└─ISDS isn't a "standard" thing - it's relatively new, and it only exists where it's been specifically negotiated. The Trans Pacific Partnership (which did contain an ISDS provision, which is one of the things that made it so controversial) wasn't ratified by the US. And China doesn't (to my knowledge...
[05:19:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:35] <exec> 08└─offtopic: please stop with your funky CR/LFs, it's UGLEE
[05:19:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:36] <exec> 08└─motherfucker
[05:20:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:20:30] <exec> 08└─That was similar to the conclusion on the USS Greeneville collision with Ehime Maru in 2001. The sub took too many chances, was operating without some sonar equipment in working order, and was been driven too recklessly, pushing too much to impress civilian passengers who'd been given too much leewa...
[05:22:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:07] <exec> 08└─I'll admit, if Clinton had won, I probably be complacent right now and happily moving on with my life in a world where a key achievement was unlocked. Instead a pussy-grabber won. I'm happy to let #MeToo run amok, because right now we live in a country where it's ok that women are sexual objects.
[05:22:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:08] <exec> 08└─Hey, no one said it stayed good! Even before they ostarted to sell bits of it, it was goingdown hill.. https://www.amscot.com.au [amscot.com.au] http://www.accountantplus.com.au [accountantplus.com.au] https://hotcopper.com.au
[05:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:10] <exec> 08└─Never fear. Without net neutrality, your ISP can just route InfoWars and Brietbart into /dev/nul and it won't matter at all whether they're listed by Google or you post about them anywhere.
[05:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:22:59] <exec> 08└─Can you IOT a 1992 car? Or even pwn it with OBC2?
[05:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:54] <exec> 08└─Nature itself does not guarantee the success of anything.
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[06:17:02] <exec> 08└─See subject.
[06:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:14] <exec> 08└─Indeed, considering how many views he had been getting prior to showing the body and all the joking around, this rule wouldn't have applied to him anyways. He gets at least that many views in a week.
[06:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:15] <exec> 08└─Yes, thank you. In fact, this current move encourages people like Mr. Paul by making them more desperate.
[06:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:17:28] <exec> 08└─It can happen, and you can get stuck, after the tunnel too (which is after all mostly an artifact of a dying brain). There's no specific time limit and it's a lot harder to let go of these things after you're dead. If I have one major fault it's vengefulness and inability to let go of a grudge until...
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[06:17:29] <exec> 08└─This is the one crime for which our constitution lays out the punishment. He is to die.
[06:18:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:18:18] <exec> 08└─Well, at least we'll still have Sogo https://sogo.nu [sogo.nu]. They managed to mimic the current Thunderbird interface quite well.
[06:18:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:18:20] <exec> 08└─If they do this I'm going to use Sylpheed, Claws, or even learn Mutt/Pine instead.
[06:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:18:36] <exec> 08└─Intel, cough Facebook, cough So if Huawei cannot come through the door, there are plenty of windows. "Allies" in the 5-Eyes... here in New Zealand almost ALL the fibre kit is Huawei, so 99.996% of our stuff (including this) is most likely echoed via somewhere in China. They practically OWN NZ alread...
[06:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:48] <exec> 08└─Hanlon's Razor, a different one, has long since lost its edge with these people. We are dealing with a situation where ignorance, at least in terms of its effects, differs little from malice.
[06:20:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:42] <exec> 08└─If you read the link that was caused by a lorry towing a trailer that ran off the road. Really not the fault of the crew of either train.
[06:20:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:44] <exec> 08└─In other words...poor or lack of training of junior officers and crew.
[06:20:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:46] <exec> 08└─Read my post again, and read again the link, but correctly this time (it ain't a lorry). How many things had to line up exactly right, causing all those deaths?
[06:21:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 1452 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:21:55] <exec> 08└─It's really fascinating to see your cognitive dissonance at work here: "Democrats are bad, but Democrats agree with me while most Republicans don't. Does not compute, does not compute ..." * head explodes * Among the dumbest political decisions you can possibly make is to assume that a political par...
[06:22:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:22:25] <exec> 08└─Wikileaks is amazing. The stuff that’s coming out, the #PodestaEmails [twitter.com] and so much. Real bad stuff. The press doesn’t even pick this stuff up. You look at the Fake News Media, where are you seeing it?
[06:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Facebook Blocks Users from Sharing World Socialist Web Site Promotional Video - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:27:09] <exec> 08└─Pretty much, yes. Democracy can work a bit beyond Dunbar's number, but after that it has a tendency to decay. The other respondent commented about Switzerland being a counter-example, but I believe that it's a "representative democracy" rather than a democracy. Athens was able to make actual democr...
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[07:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purdue University to Lead National Center for Brain-Inspired Computing - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:04] <exec> 08└─Autonomous intelligent systems will require real-time closed-loop control, leading to new challenges in neural algorithms, software and hardware,
[07:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:31] <exec> 08└─Multiple people are now dead because of him,
[07:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:32] <exec> 08└─Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall...
[07:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:34] <exec> 08└─"This is the one crime for which our constitution lays out the punishment. He is to die." What on earth are you talking about?
[07:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:17:37] <exec> 08└─It's hard for me to list significant amount of _good_ stuff that the CIA has done for the USA. They seem to be an overall net negative for the USA and definitely the human world. Thus to me CIA informants getting killed is about the same as rats getting killed. Just hope they got quick clean deaths...
[07:18:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Justin Case [4239] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:18:01] <exec> 08└─It must be time to crap all over the user interface! C'mon. Just leave it be. Thunderbird is about the only thing that hasn't been ruined in the last decade. About a year ago I nearly switched to alpine. Got it working, used it a while, wanted to make some minor tweaks but put it on the back burner....
[07:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:19:02] <exec> 08└─A tablet will become a suitable replacement for an ebook reader when they start having comparable battery lifetimes, at least when only used to read ebooks.
[07:23:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:23:21] <exec> 08└─Don't you already affect the resale value if you modify the car? I certainly would prefer to buy a car that has not been meddled with by some random person I don't know. That person may know their shit and made the car much better, but as far as I know, that person might also be a total moron that m...
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[08:17:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:04] <exec> 08└─There should be a regulation that whenever it can be shown that important evidence showing negative effects or lack of positive effects of a regulation was actively hidden before the regulation was installed, that regulation automatically gets invalidated. Yes, I know that will never happen. But one...
[08:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:05] <exec> 08└─Add in that the legislators automatically get charged with something like criminal negligence and/or corruption. While we're dreaming, I mean.
[08:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Purdue University to Lead National Center for Brain-Inspired Computing - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:17:15] <exec> 08└─Please lead us all to perfection
[08:18:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Arik [4543] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 94 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:23] <exec> 08└─"Is this interface boring or exciting?" Boring is good, exciting is bad, when it comes to UIs.
[08:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:34] <exec> 08└─You could've at least provided the link! https://thunderbird-design.typeform.com [typeform.com] A perfectly nice blank page btw. These guys seem to value minimalism in their designs...
[08:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:35] <exec> 08└─What they should do is: Leave the interface alone. Don't change it. Not even a little bit. Mozilla has proved that their interface changes are rarely an improvement, but frequently a disaster. So, keep away from the interface. Interface adaptions can still be done through extensions. Which gets me t...
[08:18:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:38] <exec> 08└─I would expect an Open Source company to use Open Source tools to run surveys, like using LimeSurvey ( https://www.limesurvey.org) [www.limesurvey.org)] , for example. Thunderbird and the Mozilla corporation as whole stands for Opens Source so I wonder why they always neglect that when they choose t...
[08:18:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:40] <exec> 08└─Looking at the linked page, I get that SOGo is a server, not a client like Thunderbird.
[08:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:42] <exec> 08└─I love whitespace and large, I mean LARGE icons with tiny skeletal graphics inside that all look like rectangles. Spread them around the screen - cancel in the top right, save in the bottom left, make me scroll baby! Use an arrow for save and undo and back and return to previous list. Four buttons m...
[08:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:18:44] <exec> 08└─WRONG. The Principle of Least Astonishment is outdated. Click in the whitespace.... BOOM! Deleted. CTRL-C... BOOM! Shutdown.
[08:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:19:01] <exec> 08└─assume that none will be patriotic to their country of origin
[08:21:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:21:10] <exec> 08└─The honourable thing would be to resign one's command in disgust, making a VERY big stink about one's reasons for doing so. If enough senior officers did this, that would definitely get the attention of the REMFs in the Pentagon and eventually even the Armed Services Committees in Congress. If it tr...
[08:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:51] <exec> 08└─And they'll keep repeating this lie even in a thread about 100% of Dems trying to do the right thing while 98% of the Reps try to do the wrong thing.
[08:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:52] <exec> 08└─Admit it Buzzy, you just like people named Donald.
[08:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:22:54] <exec> 08└─Evangelical Christians: "We'll vote for a godless demagogue, but only if he also shits all over the constitution!"
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[09:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06First ICEYE-X1 Radar Image from Space Published - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:05] <exec> 08└─Based on this cheap tiny thing's performance, infer the precision of the images from the huge >$1B NROL-47 which was launched on Friday.
[09:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:34] <exec> 08└─Having in mind what youtube pays, those jobs are going to be 0.5$/month. Maybe for students in Ethiopia.
[09:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:52] <exec> 08└─This is the one crime for which our constitution lays out the punishment. He is to die.
[09:17:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:54] <exec> 08└─Poor AC was confused by all the big words. Attainder of Treason? Corruption of Blood? Lots of Americans can't read, so the carry around copies of the Constitution they have never read, people like Bundy, and not "Al", Paul Ryan, AC of SoylentNews, and they worship the words they cannot read, and th...
[09:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:56] <exec> 08└─Are these people complaining about these alleged deaths of traitors to their own country, the same persons who were calling for a death penalty for Snowden or Manning? Our Irony Meter is broken, again!!
[09:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:58] <exec> 08└─Use the coppery one next time, it withstands higher temperatures.
[09:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:01] <exec> 08└─It's hard for me to list significant amount of _good_ stuff that the CIA has done for the USA.
[09:18:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:13] <exec> 08└─Since all of the current replies are spam, figured it would be a good idea to reiterate that most of us appreciate the SN team's dedication. Thank you.
[09:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:57] <exec> 08└─This is is not good. I like Thunderbird and I do not want it to change. Sadly it looks like there are no real alternatives, at least not for me yet. Today I tested quickly Claws mail, and I found it not to be a good alternative. Claws is terrible with high resolution screen. Also, the quick filter i...
[09:18:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:18:59] <exec> 08└─'Cause the UI goes only up to 5. Wanna rewrite it?
[09:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:01] <exec> 08└─LimeSurvey doesn't focus on put a lot of money in marketeer's pockets.
[09:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:03] <exec> 08└─During his interview, Bryan Lunduke was able to get Ryan Sipes to say the e-mail address you can send feedback to, if you want to give a more free-form response. It's mentioned several times throughout the interview but first mentioned just after 13:25.
[09:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:19:41] <exec> 08└─New laptops are drawing upon features/attributes associated with smartphones, such as […] walled gardens: If it is a walled garden, it's not a laptop. It's a smart device in laptop form factor. *SPOILER* (click to show) *SPOILER* (click to hide) It's a smart clamshell. *SPOILER* (click to show) *S...
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[10:17:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DrkShadow [1404] 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 462 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:43] <exec> 08└─This is yet another example: If the government retains a backdoor key into all encryption on American soil, the major governments of the world will have ready access to _ALL_ encrypted data of Americans. The government can simply not maintain secrecy of vital information -- not with CIA informants,...
[10:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:58] <exec> 08└─We are all very much aware of your faults, Hazuki. No need to recite them for us. Actually, you have about ten major faults, and the rest are just minor faults. Your pigheadedness is an iffy one - major, or minor? But, if you want to play that minimalization game with your faults, go for it. Some pe...
[10:17:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:59] <exec> 08└─The proper crime is treason.
[10:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:18:01] <exec> 08└─Nah, you want tungsteny, titaniumy or nickely. You can't beat a good iconel pipe in your superheater. Cutting edge of 1970s technology.
[10:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:02] <exec> 08└─Looks like they finished destroying Firefox. Now it's Thunderbirds turn.
[10:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:19:03] <exec> 08└─Does anybody knows why SMTP is separated from IMAP/POP3 configuration? I know they are different services, but they are logically linked and should be in the same UI. Why in the earth the whole SMTP accounts configuration are packed all together in the list of accounts? SMTP configuration of each ac...
[10:21:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:21:31] <exec> 08└─No matter whether you are in a car, a plane or on a ship, what's outside the window ALWAYS overrules what theGPS says. While the old lady who followed the GPS' instructions to drive onto the ferry without first checking that the ferry was docked could be excused (GPS wasn't around when she got her d...
[10:21:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:21:33] <exec> 08└─No, there were a few guy crushed, who never woke up, right?
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[11:16:59] <exec> 08└─Potential applications include the motor for Donald Trump's fleshlight.
[11:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:17:15] <exec> 08└─While we're dreaming, add that this corruption and lying leads to such a huge public outcry that the dirty politicians are forced to resign, and the donors who backed the position are exposed, tried for corruption, found guilty, and imprisoned.
[11:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 1428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:17:38] <exec> 08└─I get the idea they are crowdsourcing the work. By having US do it. You know, like Microsoft has us doing product testing. We still can't open email attachments without risk. So, if a content creator is doing nothing but wasting all of our time with catchy clickbait, the ones so influenced may clic...
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[11:18:17] <exec> 08└─Thanks to all of you. So the reboot should be right abou
[11:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:08] <exec> 08└─I hope someone has the will and time to fork it before it gets destroyed.
[11:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:09] <exec> 08└─Wanna rewrite it?
[11:19:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:19:12] <exec> 08└─I replied to the survey. Most questions were meaningless (i.e., how inspiring I find the UI), clearly designed to "prove" that the current interface is bad, and their proposed interface is great. For all those meanigless questions, I graded Thunderbird with 7 (top mark) and the proposed new interfac...
[11:22:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Japanese City Uses Emergency Loudspeakers to Warn of Toxic Blowfish - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:22:01] <exec> 08└─Cyanide does taste awesome. It's what gives almonds (especially bitter almonds) their flavor. It's all a matter of dosage.
[11:23:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:23:24] <exec> 08└─Not people, ducks. Ducks are mightier. There's a movie about it even.
[11:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:24:15] <exec> 08└─It's not a problem of lack of information. Everybody knows that gmail scan mails, when you connect, what you say, what are your relations, where you connect from, and every single bit of information. In spite of knowing that, most people prefer using that free (and very good, let's be honest) email...
[11:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:24:16] <exec> 08└─How about those tins chocolates and cookies show up in? They are pretty little tins... and I like them to keep my stuff that I am trying to shield from an EMP in. I have a bunch of big red ones chocolates came in... just the size for putting in a file cabinet. Here's hoping that should we have a bi...
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[12:17:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:02] <exec> 08└─I was talking to an astrophysicist about a decade ago who was setting up a slightly lower resolution camera to film the sun. It produced images at a rate of about 1GB/s and they were planning on recording 16 hours a day for a few years. I don't know what happened with the project, but I imagine that...
[12:17:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:03] <exec> 08└─Photographing the human body from multiple angles in super high resolution in order to map all of a person's skin imperfections in 3D.
[12:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Small but Fast: A Miniaturized Origami-Inspired Robot Combines Micrometer Precision With High Speed - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:12] <exec> 08└─That's what she said, in an origami related situation.
[12:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:28] <exec> 08└─One better,..... Lynch all professional politicians. Anyone doing politics as a profession is per definition a money-grubbing, untrustworthy thief.
[12:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:17:30] <exec> 08└─AC misjudges tone of thread; posts idiotic comment. More at 11.
[12:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:25] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[12:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:26] <exec> 08└─It is a web GUI, but it talks to an IMAP server on the back end. If you're so inclined, you can run it locally with a remote IMAP server and point a browser to it, or use something like imapsync to copy all of your mail to a local dovecot instance, point SOGo at that, and then a web browser at that.
[12:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:19:29] <exec> 08└─Because they're not always unified. Having them combined was actually one of my biggest UI annoyances with mail clients 15 years ago. In a number of cases, I have more outgoing mail servers than incoming, because some email addresses forward their incoming mail to an existing account, but need outgo...
[12:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Laptop and Phone Convergence at CES - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:20:07] <exec> 08└─Legacy Win32 binaries will work on them, via binary translation. I've not played with one, but apparently the speed is pretty good. They do the same sorts of tricks that Transitive did, proxying a load of API calls, so time spent in any of the system libraries is running native code and only time sp...
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[13:17:14] <exec> 08└─Ok, can someone do the math for at what resolution a single pixel at the horizon is corresponding to one (centi-?)meter (assume camera is mounted 2m above sea level, target object is 0 to 1m (vertical) above sea level, east-west, at the equator (and at 60degree lat)) and post it? I'm just curious ab...
[13:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06First ICEYE-X1 Radar Image from Space Published - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:17:30] <exec> 08└─That's some neat work, guys! I can see where you are getting some really precise topographical data... help us see things like where stresses are building up on subduction zones and subterranean problems, like magma building up. These are the kind of things that make an engineering career worthwhile...
[13:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:04] <exec> 08└─Good. Maybe somebody can film his dangling corpse.
[13:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03iru [6596] (Score: 1) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:05] <exec> 08└─The whole “top YouTuber fucks up therefore we will punish the small guys” logic makes no sense.
[13:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:18:32] <exec> 08└─10 years max. Less if he plays it smart and cuts a deal.
[13:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe a option to "export" long conversation where each conversation partner just clicks "reply" and it gets nested 10 levels deep, to a real conversation, like you see in all those chat application, on the left the sender and on the right the receiver. right-click and "export as conversation" prefe...
[13:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:45] <exec> 08└─They want Thunderbird to share the same codebase as Firefox. At this point, it should be forked, and put into maintenance mode. If they want to make a shiny new Thunderbird, that's fine, but Thunderbird doesn't need an update.
[13:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:47] <exec> 08└─Because they're not always unified.
[13:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:19:49] <exec> 08└─After destroying firefox, now they will move on to destroying Thunderbird? Just keep it secure and stable. Please do not start "improving" the UI. These UI experts are an illness.
[13:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:07] <exec> 08└─When you realize NZ is a 5 eyes companion, and 5 eyes now has eyes over most of europe, the us, canada, australia, nz, etc. It's a huge clusterfuck of literally 'big brother' proportions.
[13:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:20:08] <exec> 08└─My guess is that they couldn't persuade Huawei to put in an NSA backdoor.
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[14:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:05] <exec> 08└─When will memory stacked on processors become standard? https://www.sigarch.org [sigarch.org] It will probably be mainstream before "atomristors" are ready.
[14:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:16] <exec> 08└─Not that I am going to do any math wrt this :-) , but it WILL depend on (the focal length of) the lens you would be using. A 300 mm lens will have a different 'horizon resolution' compared to a 24 mm lens.
[14:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:17] <exec> 08└─Translation: porn.
[14:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:17:19] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, optical zoom.. :) Kinda silly of me to miss that. Assume 24mm lens.
[14:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:11] <exec> 08└─so who is logan paul? is he the northern equivalent of that aussie with the knife? yeah i guess I can search for it but fuck i have no concept who this clown is and why I'd care he isnt making money anymore for a website that probably needs a login filter so that most of this shit is prevented anywa...
[14:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:39] <exec> 08└─It's hard for me to list significant amount Because they strive to keep operations secret, you'd hear about the instances when something goes wrong. Appearing to be screw ups makes their job easier against anyone who believe it, so apparent incompetence could be intentional. Of course, all of this p...
[14:19:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:54] <exec> 08└─That's precisely what Thunderbird does. When you set up an account, you give it a username and password and it defaults to assuming that the config for each is the same and then tries a few variations, and finally asks you to enter more details if it doesn't work.
[14:19:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:55] <exec> 08└─This is why Exchange still hasn't properly gotten rid of public folders. Try as they might, it keeps turning out users have all kinds of crazy uses for them that weren't anticipated, and the replacements still aren't quite adequate.
[14:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:57] <exec> 08└─Goodness yes! Alpine and Claws-Mail are what I use, except when I'm at work. HTML mail is an abomination. Perhaps we should have markdown or something if we need formatting. At least I can tell Seamonkey to ignore font and color styles--idiots don't realize I don't even see their cute purple 24pt Co...
[14:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:19:59] <exec> 08└─It shoudn't be just in the set up, but when you modify or delete it.
[14:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:20:02] <exec> 08└─Pick the rightmost option, the 7, for everything about the old UI. Pick the leftmost option, the 1, for everything about the new UI.
[14:25:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:10] <exec> 08└─LMFTFY: With personal information AND genes. You do shed skin cells don't you? Only a matter of time before that nifty new sensor upgrade package performs some on-the-fly dna-analysis.
[14:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:55] <exec> 08└─That flower power crap was all about mid- to upper-class people shirking responsibility and engaging in lots of self-indulgence.
[14:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Has Pop Music Lost Its Fun? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:57] <exec> 08└─I think I spent more of my pocket money on music than I spend on music in my adult life. I suspect this is fairly common.
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[15:17:04] <exec> 08└─What keeps a project "properly" open is the will of each individual, not legalese. That's why, say, the various BSDs tend to offer just as much freedom as those projects that have been infected with the GPL. You cannot be worried about other people taking the work as part of a closed source project....
[15:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:12] <exec> 08└─Moore's law says the number of transistors on a chip doubles every two years. Prior to "3D" circuits, that meant for the same cost you could get twice as many transistors. Making chips is still basically a printing process, and most of the costs are in "printing" the layers, not the substrate. Stack...
[15:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:14] <exec> 08└─96-layer NAND [wikipedia.org] has been announced [wdc.com], 128+ layers are coming. Although these use older, larger, and cheaper process nodes, a hundred layer device is not 100x as costly. Maybe string stacking [theregister.co.uk] two dies could double the cost. Even if we only end up getting an i...
[15:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Codesmith [5811] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:27] <exec> 08└─OK, I'll bite: 24mm lens average FOV is 73.7 horizontal degrees (from angle of view [wikipedia.org] ) The camera has a final value of 23200 x 17400 pixels (from Hasselblad [hasselblad.com]) 73.7 degrees is 265320 arc seconds So each pixel is 11.44 arc seconds in width. With an observer height o...
[15:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:28] <exec> 08└─In fact, the images are large enough that the camera needs to be tethered to a computer to capture them.
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[15:17:30] <exec> 08└─And I completely skipped over atmospheric interference, lighting, weather, etc.
[15:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 4152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:32] <exec> 08└─What are they expecting people to use this kind of camera for. More than likely exactly what they used film cameras like this for: landsacpes, photos for high end glossy magazines, product photos for billboards, photographers with more money than brains, things that might get tightly cropped, really...
[15:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:35] <exec> 08└─And, this isn't really about shooting billboards on the horizon. The first, best, use I put a high MP camera to was visiting an eminent scientist in our field, he allowed us to take a snapshot of his office bookcase, and from just one picture, we could resolve most of the titles on the spines of 100...
[15:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:37] <exec> 08└─and get a clear picture of all the faces in the seats
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[15:17:39] <exec> 08└─They're tethering it by need: With an effective resolution of 400MP via 6 shot image capture, or 100MP resolution in either 4 shot Multi-Shot capture or single shot mode, the Multi-Shot capture requires the sensor and its mount to be moved at a high-precision of 1 or ½ a pixel at a time via a piezo...
[15:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:17:42] <exec> 08└─They're generating 2.4GB images. To deal with them internally reasonably fast, they'd have to buffer the data to RAM, while in parallel writing it to FLASH. So, they'd need a storage subsystem consisting of a microprocessor, 2.4GB of RAM, and a USB/SD/CF interface. Hate to tell you, but that's a pac...
[15:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:08] <exec> 08└─Either a reporter with a ax to grind and/or Regulatory capture with a missing feedback path. It may be that 'regulatory capture' is the new, nice sounding word for the process leading to the replacement of democracy with an oligarchy. If so, then is the EU leaning East?
[15:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:35] <exec> 08└─I subscribe to some channels merely as a way to "bookmark" them. I consider "subscribe" to be "bookmark". It makes it easier for me to locate certain channels. It also seems to have he effect that YouTube will put new videos from those channels in my face. But I don't consider "subscribe" to have th...
[15:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:37] <exec> 08└─What is the minimum wage in Elbonia these days?
[15:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:39] <exec> 08└─The stated problem was some bad folks put up some evil videos. The solution was to lower the compensation YouTube pays to less viewed content. The 2 seem only minimally related. YouTube needed all the content it could get to start so it left cash on the table. Now that it is running well, it can pul...
[15:18:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:18:41] <exec> 08└─Yep. Where do these people come from? I never heard of them. I don't care about them. Yet they become big news. Thrust in front of my face. First PewDiePie now Logan Paul. They don't do anything valuable or educational. No links to GitHub. No demos. No parts lists or instructions. Nothing cool to se...
[15:19:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 816 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:09] <exec> 08└─China is indeed waging economic and political war against the United States. Clueless people have no idea that there is a war. People who have clues, refer to it as assymetric warfare. That "Assassin's Mace" policy that China subscribes to is pretty far behind, but it is still moving ahead. The poli...
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[15:19:10] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but no. It only need be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
[15:19:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03drussell [2678] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 61 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:32] <exec> 08└─Please don't try to do whatever you tried to do to Firefox...
[15:19:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03http [1920] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 122 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:19:54] <exec> 08└─In addition, one version shows active events and the other doesn't. Some fucker is trying to put their thumb on the scale.
[15:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:30] <exec> 08└─How would you design a UI that handles all of the cases well. The common cases are: Same credentials, but different server name for IMAP / SMTP (most ISP-provided email). Same credentials for IMAP and SMTP, same server, but more outgoing accounts than incoming. Completely different IMAP and SMTP acc...
[15:20:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:31] <exec> 08└─Backwash, I like that. Very descriptive and accurate. Forcing desktop users to drink the spit and mucus of mouth-breathing mobile users. 2018 is going to be a great year.
[15:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:20:52] <exec> 08└─US to C, we won't buy your stuff because it may have intelligence gathering feature that will harm us. Expected result will be C telling US they feel the same way. Sounds like a good way to start a trade war. Not a good plan.  
[15:21:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dbe [1422] 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 596 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:21:58] <exec> 08└─Ask and you shall be answered... https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Basically this guy did exactly that, looking at holes in the binary instruction code tables and "glitches" in the application notes where the PDF tables cells were left blanks... Then using fuzzing to create n...
[15:22:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 2321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:08] <exec> 08└─I always thought I was a bit paranoid. After Snowden I realized that every paranoid thing I had thought was not only reality but already had been reality for a long time. Now I realize that no matter how paranoid a scenario I may imagine, it is probably not paranoid enough. These people can and woul...
[15:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03terrab0t [4674] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:10] <exec> 08└─If you”re talking about the Windows updates that caused blue screens on boot with some AMD processors, I read that those were because of bad documentation on AMD’s part [arstechnica.com].
[15:22:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nuke [3162] 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 82 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:22:52] <exec> 08└─The captain was 15ft away, sleeping, with order of "Wake me if anything happens"..
[15:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:47] <exec> 08└─That sounds really paranoid. Crazy actually. But then came Snowden. And I realized that my most fantastical paranoid ideas were already reality and had been for a long time.
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[16:17:13] <exec> 08└─Indeed you cannot stop individual developers from being uncooperative and closing your source, particularly if you are unwilling to sue them.
[16:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:14] <exec> 08└─Said with all the ignorance of a true Libertarian.
[16:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:16] <exec> 08└─We're all waiting for what that means. At least the supposed "Libertarian" provided a basis for thinking about this stuff.
[16:17:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:18] <exec> 08└─Are your Communist GNU feelings hurt, dude?
[16:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:21] <exec> 08└─Yes.
[16:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:23] <exec> 08└─Man oh man I can't wait until we're all living in the post scarcity GNU Utopia where we all code free software for fun after working full time jobs of ten hours a week at asteroid prospecting and robot repair.
[16:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:34] <exec> 08└─...a hundred layer device is not 100x as costly.
[16:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:55] <exec> 08└─Apparently I misread things and mixed up the actual 6 shot 400 megapixel as being 4 shot 600 megapixel.
[16:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 979 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:56] <exec> 08└─I think you are a bit off there with the horizontal field of view. The 73.7 degrees is for 35mm equilvant (24mm x 36mm) along the 36mm edge. On a medium format a 24mm lens would be like an ultra wide angle on a full frame digital or 35mm film. I'm not sure of the crop factor for this camera but I wo...
[16:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:58] <exec> 08└─In the actual spec sheet [hasselblad.com] it states that the camera supports: CFast card, SD card (UHS-I) or tethered to Mac or PC
[16:18:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 311 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:20] <exec> 08└─There should be a regulation that whenever it can be shown that important evidence showing negative effects or lack of positive effects of a regulation was actively hidden before the regulation was installed, that regulation automatically gets invalidated. Yes, I know that will never happen. But one...
[16:18:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 142 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:21] <exec> 08└─Add in that the legislators automatically get charged with something like criminal negligence and/or corruption. While we're dreaming, I mean.
[16:18:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 244 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:23] <exec> 08└─While we're dreaming, add that this corruption and lying leads to such a huge public outcry that the dirty politicians are forced to resign, and the donors who backed the position are exposed, tried for corruption, found guilty, and imprisoned.
[16:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:28] <exec> 08└─Any discussion of politics of the fantasy sort leads inevitably to "hang all politicians". The only question is if the thread gets there before Nazis.
[16:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:18:31] <exec> 08└─Eh. It's not always stupid to mention Nazis, but it's always stupid to say "hang all politicians".
[16:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:01] <exec> 08└─I've got 1400 subscribers, but very esoteric scientific content. I don't see a lot of traffic, because uber nerds are my primary consumer. So people who are already least rewarded in society proportional to their contributions, are being punished by this decision. And it will directly result in less...
[16:19:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:03] <exec> 08└─His numbers only prove there's no accounting for taste. If youtube really wants to help, they need to ban people who can't frame and hold a steady shot, or who spend 30 minutes leading to a half second anti-climax, or cut the video just before, or who point the camera at the ground while filming a c...
[16:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:05] <exec> 08└─And pink, fluffy unicorns, too! Don't forget them, or I will not watch.
[16:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:19:35] <exec> 08└─'Chinese informant' as in 'a CIA informant spying on the Chinese', right? Am I the only one finding this use of 'Chinese informant' to be somewhere between misleading and malformed?
[16:20:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lester [6231] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:57] <exec> 08└─Create email account advanced -> create only outgoing account Create email account     ingoing data         Button (copy ingoing data from other account)     SMTP         checkbox (Use same credendials as IMAP)         button (copy SMTP data from other account) And when you create a...
[16:20:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:20:59] <exec> 08└─Boy you ain't kidding. Where I work GUI "experts" are called "human factors" and man are they idiots.
[16:22:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03ElizabethGreene [6748] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:37] <exec> 08└─I don't think this is the important computer security issue Congress should be examining. There are thousands of insecure-by-default IoT devices manufactured every day that are abandonware by the time the products hits store shelves. That is a much greater structural risk than Intel and AMD's respon...
[16:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:22:38] <exec> 08└─Well Congressman, I first learned about it when the NSA ordered me not to fix it and not to talk about it.
[16:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:23:39] <exec> 08└─it doesn't explain why the guys with binoculars, ostensibly, stood idly by while the other ships approached
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[17:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:14] <exec> 08└─I'd say both are possible. However, the realist in me believes that profits mean more. I mean, c'mon, what's the point of saving one of our most prolific pollinators that helps to keep us from starving if there's no money in it?
[17:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:16] <exec> 08└─They've worked out a way to make the bees addicted to it, but it's hard to setup the infrastructure to automatically cash honey payments.
[17:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:30] <exec> 08└─When you make the State stronger to enforce collectivism, you have simply transferred power from one group of capitalists to another, and Karl Marx turns over in his grave.
[17:17:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:32] <exec> 08└─Seems a bit odd that TFA makes no mention whatsoever of what you should use instead of public domain. Anyway, it is well known [opensource.org] that [opensource.org] public domain is an awful way to release software as 'copycentre', and that the Modified BSD Licence is the way to go. There are other...
[17:17:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:34] <exec> 08└─Forgive the self-reply, but a related fun fact: the FSF recommend [gnu.org] the Apache Licence for copycenter licensing.
[17:17:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:36] <exec> 08└─Karl Marx turns over in his grave If we can get him turning fast enough, it will be a good source of renewable energy.
[17:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 942 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:38] <exec> 08└─The linked article is sadly missing its thesis. That's probably because it's actually a follow-up to this article [meshedinsights.com], which explains why "public domain" doesn't (necessarily) meet the requirements of open source. Particularly informative is this: “Public Domain” means software...
[17:17:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:40] <exec> 08└─The State (or, more precisely, an organization that calls itself "government") is founded on the principle of "do-as-I-say" coercion rather than on "do-as-we-previously-agreed" cooperation; the State is inherently anti-Capitalism; the State is not just another group of Capitalists.
[17:17:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:43] <exec> 08└─I see you've read Animal Farm.
[17:17:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:45] <exec> 08└─Where?
[17:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:47] <exec> 08└─that have been infected with the GPL.
[17:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:49] <exec> 08└─It's coming soon! Using FOSS allows us all the benefit of being able to stand on the shoulders of giants. Here in the UK, we're about to undergo a revolution in agricultural automation to make up for the shortage of farm labourers. All that good food will get cheaper.
[17:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:51] <exec> 08└─Cheap food, that's just brilliant. I want to live in council housing on benefits while I watch Doctor Who and code FOSS all night!!
[17:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 2055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:54] <exec> 08└─Nope, he's exactly right. A lot of humans, when confronted with a set of rules, will try hard to figure out how to do what they want without violating the letter of the rules. Both programmers and lawyers tend to exhibit this characteristic, because it's beneficial in their chosen professions (a lot...
[17:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:04] <exec> 08└─> memory stacked on processors Not "on", but "next to". Processor performance is (almost) always limited by heat removal, and also by interface speeds. Put memory under (from a package standpoint) and you'll slow the pins, put memory above and you'll slow heat transfer.
[17:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 1082 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:29] <exec> 08└─All of that equipment is built into cameras that are already available and even a bunch that don't cost more than my car. While there was the previous 200MP camera from Hasselblad, there are others you can buy now that aren't even a flagship camera. I would suggest looking at the Pentax K-1 (flagshi...
[17:18:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:30] <exec> 08└─All that advanced optical and electronic tech ... Yet, this is 2018, so they will somehow mostly be used to take selfies.
[17:18:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:32] <exec> 08└─The Great Race continues, between the camera manufacturers and the makeup industry.
[17:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06First ICEYE-X1 Radar Image from Space Published - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:48] <exec> 08└─Too bad there's nothing identifiable in the photo too compare to your basic run of the mill Google Earth photo to see how well the thing works.
[17:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 2421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:03] <exec> 08└─Is it just me, or was it really difficult to figure out what the heck TFA was about? I mean, yeah, apparently the European Commission is hiding something or discounting studies on something related in some way to copyright -- but it's definitely unclear from the summary what exactly they are hiding,...
[17:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:05] <exec> 08└─Is it just me, or was it really difficult to figure out what the heck TFA was about?
[17:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 665 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:07] <exec> 08└─Without any explanation of the issue the European Commission is hiding evidence on, this is nothing but a dumb hit piece. It doesn't even achieve the goal of generating public backlash against their policy, because the summary and the whole first half of TFA refuse to explain what that policy is. Bu...
[17:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:09] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that was actually a bit of a joke. I wasn't going to talk about the main concern of TFA at all (since none of the other comments here have yet -- obviously nobody else bothered to read that far), but I thought I'd shove that in at the end, both for information purposes and to make a point thro...
[17:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:43] <exec> 08└─spend 30 minutes leading to a half second anti-climax
[17:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:44] <exec> 08└─Dumb content sells. Or did you think that a multi-million dollar enterprise was going to somehow behave differently than the previous players in the multi-million dollar industry it "disrupted"? "X, but on the internet with social media" is a great formula for starting a business that is more effici...
[17:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:46] <exec> 08└─I'd like to mod you +1 Informative because that makes a lot more sense, but I believe in my sig so I went digging instead. Unfortunately, both TFA and Google's top [techcrunch.com] two [theguardian.com] news results for the rule change clearly flag Logan Paul's "suicide forest" video as the reason b...
[17:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:19:48] <exec> 08└─Most people don't care about stuff like that, and want to watch mindless drivel instead, so the mindless drivel is what's profitable. Therefore, trying to buck this trend is really being anti-democratic and elitist, not to mention unproductive; you should instead try to find ways of maximizing your...
[17:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:20:19] <exec> 08└─This is a fight between countries. Traitors get killed. China did it, killing Chinese traitors who were helping us. This guy, Snowden, and Manning were all traitors to the USA. We don't need people within our own nation helping our foes. It's incredibly serious, affecting the lives of all Americans,...
[17:20:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:20:21] <exec> 08└─This is the one crime for which our constitution lays out the punishment. He is to die.
[17:20:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03inertnet [4071] 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 56 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:20:34] <exec> 08└─Thanks to all of you. So the reboot should be right abou
[17:21:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:21:45] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
[17:21:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:21:47] <exec> 08└─Please read the rest of the thread (including your last post in this thread!). Thunderbird already does almost exactly what you describe for creating accounts. We are now talking about the UI for modifying accounts.
[17:21:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:21:49] <exec> 08└─To minimize the amount of feedback.
[17:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03gottabeme [1531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:22:10] <exec> 08└─Are you saying that we should let Huawei stuff in and use it because it would be unfair to do otherwise? i.e. "We might have given them some compromised stuff, so we have to accept their compromised stuff. It's only fair." Do you think this is a game?
[17:23:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:29] <exec> 08└─I've worked at Intel, and they are staggeringly paranoid about their IP. There are so many levels of classification, including compartmentalized need-to-know, that it may well be possible to slip in a back door that won't be detected. The asinine secrecy probably makes back doors easier to create.
[17:23:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Archon V2.0 [3887] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:31] <exec> 08└─> Where do they come up with some of these people? Journalism school, but they only keep the ones who get the most eye-grabbing articles to press the fastest. They get rid of the ones who waste time on pointless tasks like verifying information and seeking the truth.
[17:23:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gottabeme [1531] 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 220 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:23:51] <exec> 08└─There are supposed to be levels of backup for everything. Multiple Radars, covered by watch standing, GPS nav, covered by old fashion course plotting, etc. Its designed such that not everything can go gunny sack at once.
[17:24:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:24:33] <exec> 08└─And what evidence do you have that he reported an issue up the chain, or that he even knew there was an issue? I don't have the details, but it is the responsibility of the Captain to make sure the ship and crew are ready. If he did know there was a problem, and he reported it up the chain, that wil...
[17:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:19] <exec> 08└─That's why the grid operator must be regulated as a natural monopoly, like Texas does with the electrical grid. Or better, contracted by the government so they can just put it out for bid if they don't like the encumbrance's latest rate hike.
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[18:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:13] <exec> 08└─Hey billionaire scum, since you outright refuse to pay your taxes and you outright refuse to create jobs, how about you pay for a basic income. The alternative is we will murder you all. Your choice.
[18:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:14] <exec> 08└─Yes, we will kill you because you have a job that we can't do. Everyone who does jobs that I can't do needs to move out. Whoever is left will have to hire me because I am entitled to that job. The "have-nots" are quite the entitled set, now aren't they? "I'm not moving to where the jobs are, I DEMAN...
[18:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03IndigoFreak [3415] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:16] <exec> 08└─Makes sense. Billionaires always ride in buses. No way this is targeting rank and file employees. Yep, definitely targeting the decision making people.
[18:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:18] <exec> 08└─Throwing rocks at the employee transport buses for specific companies is entirely too small scale to accomplish anything constructive, whatever your stance is. Well unless maybe you're selling bus windows.
[18:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:21] <exec> 08└─You imply the have-nots can't do tech jobs, and you have no idea what you are talking about. The billionaire tech giants refuse to hire locals who do have the tech skills and can do the tech jobs. H1Bs are just cheaper to hire and cheaper to bus in. There isn't any place where US citizens can move t...
[18:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:23] <exec> 08└─Your thinking is entirely constrained by the capitalist mode of production.
[18:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:33] <exec> 08└─Just setup a beeline of credit.
[18:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03sbgen [1302] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:35] <exec> 08└─This is a preliminary study and authors do explicitly mention that field studies are necessary. However, it is an encouraging development in the field of apiary. The gene targeting study they initiated was based on a previous report supporting it. However, in this paper authors apparently observed t...
[18:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:37] <exec> 08└─Poor bay-bees..I really hope this isn't just poisoning them with something worse than mites long-term.
[18:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 2330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:17:39] <exec> 08└─So, here's my read of what the article means: * the researchers had a really sweet theory for doing gene-targeted insecticide that would just kill the mites [1] * They set up a test with two separate controls, one with no active gene therapy, and another with a harmless gene therapy * Harmless gene...
[18:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:06] <exec> 08└─I can think of plenty of things to do with my time. Trouble is I can't maintain my lifestyle of the living without food and shelter. Coding doesn't pay the bills because the market value of open source is zero. Thank Stallman for starting the race to the bottom which will make all coders destitute.
[18:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:08] <exec> 08└─so a wage-slave retarded libertarian. enjoy swimming in your own ignorance
[18:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:10] <exec> 08└─You couldn't be more wrong. I'm can't be a wage-slave since I'm unemployed, and I vote Green.
[18:18:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:12] <exec> 08└─If only Stallman could have been satisfied with BSD then there wouldn't have been colossal duplication of effort to reinvent Unix as GNU/Linux.
[18:18:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:14] <exec> 08└─Like this? [smbc-comics.com]
[18:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:17] <exec> 08└─The straw man libertarian strikes again! No, your distinction is meaningless, and the contract law that capitalists rely upon only exists at the whim of the State anyway. You could more accurately say that capitalists use "do-as-we-previously-agreed-because-the-state-says" coercion, which is also, b...
[18:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:28] <exec> 08└─IIUC, though, those are devices that don't require power to stay in operation. Like flash or core memory. That kind of device doesn't have the same heat extraction limit as do dynamic devices. OTOH, this suggests a stack of static memory with a dynamic CPU built on top of it. Get this down to atomic...
[18:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:56] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the selfies.
[18:18:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 1442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:18:57] <exec> 08└─At almost $50,000 I doubt that it will be mostly, but then there is that more money than brains category I mentioned so for that group it probably is mostly. I have been asked when out taking photographs why I have such an old lens on a new camera by many people. I do use old lenses some of which a...
[18:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:33] <exec> 08└─It wasn't just you.
[18:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Purdue University to Lead National Center for Brain-Inspired Computing - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:43] <exec> 08└─Autonomous and closed-loop? Who or what decides what the reference signal is? Okay, read the article. It's hard to quickly sum up their goals other than say they want to improve everything. They want to improve energy efficiency of large AI setups like Watson. They want to make IoT devices have a di...
[18:20:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:12] <exec> 08└─Why not just use "bookmarks"? That's why they put them in the browser.
[18:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:14] <exec> 08└─Subscribing ends up with getting notifications when that channel posts new content. I find this useful so that I don't have to go to the user pages to see if anything new came out.
[18:20:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:47] <exec> 08└─If a person is Chinese, and they are providing another country with information about China, then they are clearly a Chinese informant. It only gets troublesome when a person fits half of that. For example, if a German person provides Japan with information about Korea, are they a German informant o...
[18:20:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:49] <exec> 08└─Are these people complaining about these alleged deaths of traitors to their own country, the same persons who were calling for a death penalty for Snowden or Manning? Our Irony Meter is broken, again!!
[18:20:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:51] <exec> 08└─> This guy, Snowden, and Manning were all traitors to the USA. Telling American people that their government is not following the Constitution is treason? > such people have to die Or we could imprison them. Of course, that isn't good for cavemen such as yourself. > If you disagree, you're probably...
[18:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:53] <exec> 08└─He wasn't alone.
[18:20:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:55] <exec> 08└─It's hard for me to list significant amount of _good_ stuff that the CIA has done for the USA.
[18:21:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 277 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:21:31] <exec> 08└─> It took 10 years to get most of the bugs out and the interface stabilized Therefore running out of interesting bugs to fix, and not using $Fashionable_platform and $Marketable_new_language. If it ain't broken, and it ain't changing, it's great for users, not for programmers.
[18:22:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:23] <exec> 08└─Of course "human factors" is the wrong term, because two negative factors give a positive result, something that is not observed with GUI "experts".
[18:22:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03gottabeme [1531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:46] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that'd be awful. We'd have to start buying American again. Might have to start making stuff here again.
[18:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lawmakers Urge AT&T to Cut Ties With Huawei - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:22:48] <exec> 08└─This is a case where loyalty can be split. Only a fool would make assumptions about the winning loyalty. Also, the fact that trusting people tend to be trustworthy does not imply that trustworthy people are trusting. Your assumption is damn broken with lots of people, myself included. The normal beh...
[18:24:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03metarox [788] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:24:10] <exec> 08└─June 2016 -> June 2017
[18:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Democrats Say They Have 50 Votes in Senate to Overrule Net Neutrality Repeal - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:59] <exec> 08└─Oh, but, regulation = BAD... yet, somehow, in the most industrial-money-greased corner of the reddest state in the Union, they managed to regulate an essential service like electric power. I agree, cost of broadband delivery to the home is well understood at this point and should be regulated - and...
[18:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:54] <exec> 08└─How about those tins chocolates and cookies show up in? They are pretty little tins... and I like them to keep my stuff that I am trying to shield from an EMP in.
[18:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Your Car Company May Know More About You Than Your Spouse - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:56] <exec> 08└─Try it. Put your phone in the box and call it. Not guaranteed as a test, but reasonably good unless it was specifically designed to fake this out.
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[19:17:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03IndigoFreak [3415] 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 151 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:12] <exec> 08└─Makes sense. Billionaires always ride in buses. No way this is targeting rank and file employees. Yep, definitely targeting the decision making people.
[19:17:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:20] <exec> 08└─I'm sure they'll escalate to IED:s some days, for some reason. Wasn't Apples new round office complex finished recently? Seem to recall it in one of the papers I read during my trainride to work today.
[19:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:22] <exec> 08└─Those walls are only going to get higher while people keep voting R.
[19:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:24] <exec> 08└─Apple employees could take refuge in their walled gardens. Secure enclaves. Build a wall around the walled garden. With rounded corners. And make the people outside the wall pay for it. I can understand why people might throw rocks at Apple buses, with rounded corners. Even FaceTwit. But Google? Goo...
[19:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:26] <exec> 08└─Stand and deliver! Your lunch money or your lunch!
[19:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:29] <exec> 08└─Don't assume that the people being bussed in are H1B's. Most local papers say that they are causing the rents to raise and gentrifying neighborhoods that poorer people have been living in. But, yes, there is a *lot* of local resentment.
[19:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 2804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:31] <exec> 08└─As someone who has been living in San Francisco since the early 1970s, I can comment authoritatively upon the changes in the city (and region) over the past ten-twenty years. I remember, in 2000, in San Francisco - which has rent control - watching a neighbor's house get emptied of its contents whil...
[19:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:33] <exec> 08└─These buses are bringing people from San Francisco. San Francisco is one of the most expensive cities in the USA. Those low wage H1-Bs can't afford to live in SF.
[19:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:35] <exec> 08└─Let's bus the poor people to the coal mines. Problem solved.
[19:17:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:37] <exec> 08└─San Gimignano della Torre. What an "interesting" society to live in. https://www.tripsavvy.com [tripsavvy.com]
[19:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 553 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:51] <exec> 08└─What I've always derived from what I read is that it was due to a confluence of factors. One is that sub-critical levels of pesticides still left the bees and the colonies weaker that they were previously, so they were more subject to other insults, including various infections and temperature chang...
[19:17:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:53] <exec> 08└─Being they started out to test dsRNA which showed effectiveness, then tried to rule out the LiCl. I doubt they would make much selling this, but who knows. Kind of like the oil of Wintergreen, drug companies really don't make much profit on it from apiculture.
[19:18:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:27] <exec> 08└─Contract enforcement is a service like any other; there's no inherent need for some culturally blessed monopoly. Indeed, competing enforcement agencies would be a much better Separation of Powers. That is to say, your premise is what is in dispute.
[19:18:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:28] <exec> 08└─The problem with BSD licensing, from my point of view at least: The primary user of BSD these days is Apple. So basically working on BSD code is you (or your firm, if somebody's paying you) putting in your hours so that Apple can get whatever great innovations you come up with for free.
[19:18:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:30] <exec> 08└─GNU Utopia GNUtopia
[19:18:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:32] <exec> 08└─At the time, BSD Unix was entirely proprietary and closed-source, and likely would have remained so indefinitely were it not for competition from GNU. If only people were all benevolent altruists who would instinctively share all their innovations and improvements freely with their users, and those...
[19:18:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:35] <exec> 08└─BSD was proprietary when Stallman started his efforts. And it still might be if it wasn't for Stallman and other free software advocates.
[19:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:18:37] <exec> 08└─The whole point is that the license doesn't seem to matter. The BSDs are largely FOSS now not because of the GPL, but because of a shift in thinking—as the OP said, FOSS is an act of individual will, not legalese. BSD became FOSS due to the work of not Stallman, but rather the work of Bill and Lyn...
[19:19:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hasselblad's New 400-Megapixel Multi-Shot Camera Captures 2.4GB Stills - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:19:17] <exec> 08└─High resolution for making billboard size prints.
[19:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:34] <exec> 08└─On a browser I would do that. However I do the vast amount of my YouTube viewing on a big TV in my living room on a RoKu. It's a comfortable way to watch lectures, conferences, or just browse how-to videos. Even for just browsing junk on YouTube. Way better than on a computer. I have a nice computer...
[19:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Webweasel [567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:36] <exec> 08└─The kids know who he is. My son (14) linked me to his "2017 year wrap" video. I got 2 seconds in and closed the tab with a big NOPE! Twats like that are not aimed at you, they are aimed at kids. Which makes even less sense as kids don't have money... so how the fuck does the advertising pay off?
[19:20:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 202 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:20:57] <exec> 08└─Are these people complaining about these alleged deaths of traitors to their own country, the same persons who were calling for a death penalty for Snowden or Manning? Our Irony Meter is broken, again!!
[19:21:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:15] <exec> 08└─Bookmarking this one for the Trump impeachment trial....
[19:21:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:16] <exec> 08└─Also, conspiring with Russia undermine a US election is totally fine!
[19:21:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:18] <exec> 08└─I confess, I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
[19:21:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:21] <exec> 08└─you're probably one of them, perhaps not yet having found an opportunity to betray your country
[19:21:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:21:24] <exec> 08└─Palladiamy? Palladiany? Doesn't roll off the tongue, though.
[19:22:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:52] <exec> 08└─Well, with how few programmers that are working on Thunderbird, minimal change seems best. From lurking on various mailing lists and newsgroups, it seems that it is going to take all their programmers to just keep legacy add-ons working and/or migrate to the new add-on paradigm.
[19:22:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:53] <exec> 08└─Why can't it use a similar UI and methodology for modifying accounts?
[19:22:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:56] <exec> 08└─There already is a PaleMoon style fork of Thunderbird. Hmm, seems to have been discontinued due to lack of time, funds and users. I'd guess it could be brought back to life. https://www.fossamail.org [fossamail.org]
[19:22:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:22:58] <exec> 08└─Most of what you list can be accomplished with old style add-ons. And Thunderbird correctly supports copy and paste with the correct ctrl-insert and shift-insert, no need to copy Apple.
[19:22:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:00] <exec> 08└─Should be "Swipe right if you think it is exciting" and "Swipe left if you think it is boring"
[19:23:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 331 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:23:02] <exec> 08└─For now there is always SeaMonkey, which shares most of its mail code with Thunderbird. Unluckily SeaMonkey has the same problem as Thunderbird, how to proceed with Mozilla fucking up the back end. It's currently on the 52ESR backend channel and there are rumours it may stay there with some Linux di...
[19:24:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Congress Questions Chipmakers About Meltdown and Spectre - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:24:48] <exec> 08└─This was the subject of a Ph.D. Thesis, called Double Diverse Compiling. You can read about it at https://www.dwheeler.com [dwheeler.com]
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[20:17:04] <exec> 08└─We appreciate your understanding and patience as we deal with this situation.
[20:17:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:12] <exec> 08└─> A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Don't Report Cybersecurity Concerns > Almost a quarter of hackers have not reported a vulnerability that they found because the company didn't have a channel to disclose it The title is immediately contradicted by the first sentence in the TFS quote. A quarter of hacke...
[20:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:14] <exec> 08└─Email albert at users.sf.net if you want to do this stuff for a living. You'll need to be a US citizen. In case you aren't sure about your qualification: really it is just being able to work with low-level code. Being able to debug assembly code is good. People who write drivers, emulators, and comp...
[20:17:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:16] <exec> 08└─Fake job. Mod down.
[20:17:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:18] <exec> 08└─My paycheck is real. I get full benefits, including 401K matching and fully paid health insurance. Yes, you really can get paid for this stuff. OK, maybe not you, but it works for me and hundreds of others.
[20:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:20] <exec> 08└─Why should this be surprising when the parties guilty of having the vulnerability instantly take a "Shoot The Messenger" mentality. For example AT&T or Apple had a problem that by changing a GET parameter, visible in the URL, some type of, for example: &id=53782 to a different number, you can access...
[20:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:22] <exec> 08└─Please, editors, change the title: "don't" should be "couldn't".
[20:17:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:25] <exec> 08└─Thanks for fixing it! And why does the the submission form allow titles that are too long to fit? It would seem worthwhile to limit it there.
[20:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 379 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:27] <exec> 08└─yes, it goes a little beyond "don't have formal reporting blah, blah". try "asshat windows users leave their front door wide open blowing in the wind and when you peak your head in to tell them their door is flapping about, they rat you out to some nearly equally stupid bastards for breaking in." sc...
[20:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 1590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:29] <exec> 08└─Just add "on a computer" to so many actions, and that makes it a serious crime-- or a patentable invention. The overkill with criminalization certainly pushed me away. I've been accused of hacking into accounts on computer systems I never even knew existed, just because they believed I might know ho...
[20:17:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 205 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:40] <exec> 08└─Throwing rocks at the employee transport buses for specific companies is entirely too small scale to accomplish anything constructive, whatever your stance is. Well unless maybe you're selling bus windows.
[20:17:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 2804 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:50] <exec> 08└─As someone who has been living in San Francisco since the early 1970s, I can comment authoritatively upon the changes in the city (and region) over the past ten-twenty years. I remember, in 2000, in San Francisco - which has rent control - watching a neighbor's house get emptied of its contents whil...
[20:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:55] <exec> 08└─I wish there was a SoylentNews Bus so I could slash the tires and break the windows.
[20:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:57] <exec> 08└─The "have-nots" are quite the entitled set, now aren't they? "I'm not moving to where the jobs are, I DEMAND you bring me jobs that I can do HERE!!!"
[20:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:59] <exec> 08└─The solution, when someone violently doesn't want you around, is to keep adding more armor plating to your vehicles, and ram anyone who gets in your way. Proven to convince people to Love you!
[20:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:01] <exec> 08└─So, Tuscan Raiders, or Sand people? Doesn't seem like a Jawa MO.
[20:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 1280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:03] <exec> 08└─And start doing something about it. Whether that is getting the neighborhoods to band together and revolt against your current politcal leaders, or moving to a different region, or founding a new nation for all the people like you. Technology is to the point where the right set of skilled individual...
[20:18:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:06] <exec> 08└─Sorry there isn't a Soylent News bus you can attack. But there are Windows you can break. Don't throw stones. Throw a few USB sticks in the parking lot or restroom. Almost guaranteed people will pick them up, and plug them in to their PC because they are just too curious for their pwn good.
[20:18:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:08] <exec> 08└─Automation won't lead to a non-scarcity based economy for the masses because the automation won't be controlled by the masses. I called it many years ago: technology will make poor people obsolete.
[20:18:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:23] <exec> 08└─uhh, blockchain? from their website: honeycoin: a digital asset pegged to the market value of honey, measured as one "snoot of honey". It goes on to describe the honeycoin api and app hosting platform.
[20:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:03] <exec> 08└─What you are describing sounds like feudal Europe. Which I may remind you is called the "dark ages" for a reason.
[20:19:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:05] <exec> 08└─GNU's Not Utopia You're right. It's a dystopian plot designed to make everyone as poor as RMS.
[20:19:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:07] <exec> 08└─Funny that, I've been making a good living coding on FOSS platforms for over fifteen years now. End user applications are not where the money is. You have to think shoulders of giants.
[20:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:09] <exec> 08└─Also, feudalism is not the reason that period was called "the Dark Ages". Is there no end to your inanity?
[20:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:11] <exec> 08└─I don't see how that negatively affects you.
[20:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:13] <exec> 08└─A government cannot grant rights; a government can only restrict rights. That is important distinction. There may indeed be universal rights, but it's likely some government (if not every government) is trashing them.
[20:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:15] <exec> 08└─It's a brave GNU world.
[20:19:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:18] <exec> 08└─Funny, my personal experience is exactly the opposite. I've spent my career earning jack shit for making backend networking code that lets people communicate with each other. They never communicate with me, though. I'm nobody. Software behind the scenes that nobody knows or cares about isn't valuabl...
[20:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:20] <exec> 08└─“Public Domain” means software (or indeed anything else that could be copyrighted) that is not restricted by copyright. It may be this way because the copyright has expired, or because the person entitled to control the copyright has disclaimed that right. Disclaiming copyright is only possible...
[20:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:22] <exec> 08└─"The 386BSD port [by Jolitzes] was possible because, partly influenced by Stallman, Berkeley hacker Keith Bostic had begun an effort to clean AT&T proprietary code out of the BSD sources in 1988." -- http://www.faqs.org [faqs.org]
[20:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:19:24] <exec> 08└─The GNU lifestyle is great if you like living like a bum and being treated like shit. But let's be real. Open source doesn't pay a dime. You can write as much code as you like but there's no money to be made by coding.
[20:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score: 1) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:20:41] <exec> 08└─but it's always stupid to say "hang all politicians"
[20:21:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:21:25] <exec> 08└─Kids have parents. And parents have money.
[20:22:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:09] <exec> 08└─Telling American people that their government is not following the Constitution is treason?
[20:22:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:10] <exec> 08└─What we really need for him is decades of torture.
[20:22:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:13] <exec> 08└─Okay, you're either conversant enough in Japanese culture to know my surname is out front, or you know me from somewhere. Who in the hell are you, and where do you get off saying things like that?
[20:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:27] <exec> 08└─Very much appreciate your comment. Sometimes it DOES feel like a thankless job. It means a lot when someone takes a moment to speak up. Thank You!
[20:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Server Reboots (lithium, sodium, boron) Site Down for ~10 Minutes Starting at 2018-01-18 at 0900 UTC - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:22:28] <exec> 08└─Got a good laugh from that one... have a +1 Funny from me.
[20:23:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 1134 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:01] <exec> 08└─Pick the rightmost option, the 7, for everything about the old UI. Pick the leftmost option, the 1, for everything about the new UI. Oh yeah, the old one is so simple and modern and exciting! The new one is boring, obsolete, and confusing! There are open-ended questions. We should all demand these f...
[20:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:50] <exec> 08└─I think we missed the point of the survey. The survey was so obviously stacked against the old UI, that of course we would kick back and say that the old UI is modern and exciting, while the new UI is obsolete and exciting. The result of the survey will be that thunderbird users want to keep the old...
[20:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:52] <exec> 08└─Seems overly complicated compared to just installing Thunderbird and pointing it at your POP3 or IMAP account.
[20:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:54] <exec> 08└─Mozilla has never been about the users. It's all about the Architecture, and fuck the users.
[20:23:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:23:56] <exec> 08└─Does it at least ask whether it needs a hamburger menu? And why doesn't this site have a hamburger menu?
[20:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Naval Commanders Charged With Negligent Homicide for Role in Ship Collisions - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:48] <exec> 08└─How many things had to line up exactly right, causing all those deaths?
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[21:15:52] <exec> 08********** 03SOYLENTNEWS COMMENT FEED08 **********
[21:15:53] <exec> last cid = 624348
[21:17:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Occipital In-Headset Room Tracking for VR - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:14] <exec> 08└─what's the big deal about walking around the room? when I play games I prefer to remain seated. I dont want to have to worry about knocking things over, stepping on pets or unplugging things, or dying like that story about the guy and the glass table. darwinism maybe, but it wouldn't have happened i...
[21:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:22] <exec> 08└─Fish tacos for the lesbians. Shit kebabs for the gays. Everybody's happy. Cumming, cumming! Fuck yeah!!
[21:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:24] <exec> 08└─Ohhhhh the stick feels even better coming out..........
[21:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:26] <exec> 08└─Snickers flavor pizza is more better.
[21:17:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:28] <exec> 08└─I like my pizza like I like my women: covered in congealed sauce.
[21:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:30] <exec> 08└─"black" sauce?
[21:17:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 1838 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:46] <exec> 08└─Didn't know this turned into a fake job board. Here's one for the road: Ruby/PhP Server / Backend Engineer Responsibilities: -Write maintainable, scalable server code. -Modify and extend our backend systems and technologies depending on business requirements -Develop server side implementation of ga...
[21:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:48] <exec> 08└─Offering a 100% relevant job is quite different. It answers the question of "where to report".
[21:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:50] <exec> 08└─Thanks for fixing it! And why does the the submission form allow titles that are too long to fit? It would seem worthwhile to limit it there.
[21:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:52] <exec> 08└─What, bugtraq and other full disclosure lists suddenly disappeared? Or is it trying to get *paid* for a vulnerability that this "quarter of ethical hackers" wasn't able to succeed in?
[21:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:54] <exec> 08└─Those are OKish hackers. The bad ones use the holes to make ransomware. The good ones support America. They sell to the NSA, CIA, Army, and Air Force. The really good ones, better than me, freely give to the NSA, CIA, Army, and Air Force.
[21:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:56] <exec> 08└─Free reporting is too much bother. Paid reporting is great, but to get a reliable paycheck you need a security clearance. (see downmodded post) Some people have issues with foreign family, drug use, mental illness, or serious debt. Without that clearance, the best you can do is the occasional awkwar...
[21:17:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:59] <exec> 08└─I don't know if I qualify as a "hacker" but I have reported vulnerabilities in the past and gotten swept aside until something exploited it down the line or the thing collapsed, and THEN it was fixed. This showed my time was wasted since the result I wanted to avoid happened anyway.
[21:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:01] <exec> 08└─When ethical hackers are treated like that, I really have to wonder why there's any "ethical hackers" still left.
[21:18:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:33] <exec> 08└─So, you've discovered the new bus route to strike again tomorrow...
[21:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:35] <exec> 08└─Winning the hearts and minds. Are we tired of winning yet?
[21:18:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:37] <exec> 08└─Sand People are easily frightened. But they'll soon be back. And in greater numbers.
[21:18:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:39] <exec> 08└─Check whether the tracks are single-file to hide their numbers.
[21:18:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:41] <exec> 08└─The alternative is we will murder you all.
[21:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:44] <exec> 08└─orly? last i looked the masturbaters of the universe were all liberals.
[21:18:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:46] <exec> 08└─It hasn't happened as you predict yet, and you aren't the first to predict it. But if we take your prediction as a given, what exactly do you think the reaction to the obsolete poor will be? Given their extreme numbers advantage, I don't like any of the answers I get. Everyone wins if we can find a...
[21:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:48] <exec> 08└─I remember, in 2000, in San Francisco - which has rent control - watching a neighbor's house get emptied of its contents while the owner of the house - the son of the family that had purchased it - strode back and forth, excited about finally being able to evict an old woman and her son. The content...
[21:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:50] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but if the Grateful Dead were recording before you were born, you are not old! Maybe decrepit, but not actually old.
[21:18:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:52] <exec> 08└─Fuck an IED, bring out the IEEMP's. That's how you really fuck up their day.
[21:18:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:55] <exec> 08└─You minimize the amount of development we are missing for huge swaths of this future you promise. Seriously, look into any single thing you are talking about automating and you will find the automation isn't 100% of where you seem to assume. Taken as a whole we have a long ways to go. On to your sec...
[21:18:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:57] <exec> 08└─Has anyone adapted this to phones and started dropping sd cards yet?
[21:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:18:59] <exec> 08└─The poor can be obsoleted without removing the people, but by removing the money. Get rid of government backed currency, give people the basics and let the free market handle everything else.
[21:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:01] <exec> 08└─That's not happening, because companies don't like investing in their employees anymore.
[21:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:03] <exec> 08└─Too many people out there think "remember that one year with Haight-Ashbury? That was SO cool. I'm angry that it can't stay like that forever." Populations ebb and flow with the time and economy. I agree that companies, and governments, could and should do more to get people to move (tax write offs...
[21:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:06] <exec> 08└─These blast points... too accurate for sand people.
[21:19:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zinho [759] 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 2330 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:17] <exec> 08└─So, here's my read of what the article means: * the researchers had a really sweet theory for doing gene-targeted insecticide that would just kill the mites [1] * They set up a test with two separate controls, one with no active gene therapy, and another with a harmless gene therapy * Harmless gene...
[21:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:23] <exec> 08└─this has always been the argument of the pesticide makers. never mind that they poison the whole food chain and kill everything. what are you gonna do? *not* steal from social security and pay people who live too long?
[21:19:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:25] <exec> 08└─Beads?!
[21:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:27] <exec> 08└─You know what would work better? Stop keeping bees in enclosures that encourage mites. Start breeding bees that have good grooming habits. Instead, we have hives getting stressed from repeated opening and inspection, in enclosures that are too large to be heated by an average colony, fed on sugar wa...
[21:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:29] <exec> 08└─Fill my hives O lithium sunset And take this lonesome burden Of killing off the mites Take this queen break Of destructor darkness And fold my darkness Into your honeyed light Hive's been scattered hive's been shattered Hive been knocked out of the race But hive'll get better I feel your light upon...
[21:19:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03meustrus [4961] 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 942 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:19:48] <exec> 08└─The linked article is sadly missing its thesis. That's probably because it's actually a follow-up to this article [meshedinsights.com], which explains why "public domain" doesn't (necessarily) meet the requirements of open source. Particularly informative is this: “Public Domain” means software...
[21:20:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:20] <exec> 08└─I've heard Harry Potter Lennart Poettering can transmute unnecessary complexity into user support contracts.
[21:20:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:22] <exec> 08└─The black plague and Mongols killing everybody, book burnings, etc, is why it's called the dark ages. Lack of strong central authority is not.
[21:20:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:24] <exec> 08└─You the powerless only have rights if you can convince the powerful to recognize your rights
[21:20:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:26] <exec> 08└─You really don't get what open source is all about, do you?
[21:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:28] <exec> 08└─Open source is about slave labor. Unpaid slaves do the work. Corporations get the profits. By convincing programmers to use the GPL, RMS sold programmers into slavery. GNU is a cult and RMS is a slave trader.
[21:20:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:30] <exec> 08└─Nope, he's exactly right.
[21:20:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:33] <exec> 08└─Interesting choice of words, "coding on FOSS platforms." How much of your actual code is open source, dear person who pretends to code open source for pay?
[21:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:35] <exec> 08└─It's the difference between, say, volunteering at the local food bank, and volunteering to work for Walmart for free. One is giving away your time for the greater public good, one is giving away your time so somebody who's already rich can get richer.
[21:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:37] <exec> 08└─Over the years I have developed various proprietary embedded systems, on FOSS and non-FOSS platforms.
[21:20:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:39] <exec> 08└─Software behind the scenes that nobody knows or cares about isn't valuable enough to pay for. It's just not visible enough.
[21:20:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:42] <exec> 08└─Spoken like a leech. Vote Tory to keep your ill-gotten money.
[21:20:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:44] <exec> 08└─Ha ha! :-)
[21:20:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:20:46] <exec> 08└─I think you're right about filling in that this was directly stated to be a reply to an earlier article (which I haven't read yet, thanks for the C/P). I wouldn't argue that public domain isn't a local conclusion. Perhaps more appropriately it's a defense against infringement or IP claims - it's not...
[21:22:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06European Commission Hides Copyright Evidence Again - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:06] <exec> 08└─You seem to under the mistaken impression that the EP is a fair, open, and honest democratic institution. Let me rid you of any such delusions. Have some Kool-Aid.
[21:22:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Purdue University to Lead National Center for Brain-Inspired Computing - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:22:17] <exec> 08└─Read the headline! It says, "brain-inspired". He's safe.
[21:23:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:37] <exec> 08└─Says the user who regularly says much worse shit about people :P I know my only major flaw is that I'm too perfect!
[21:23:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:39] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you think you live in a civilized world and then you get ass clowns saying evil shit like that.
[21:23:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:41] <exec> 08└─One more time: who the hell are you?
[21:23:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:43] <exec> 08└─I don't think most people are actually civilized, when you get right down to it. I have a very, very dim view of the human race, and am all too aware that civilization is a rather impressive lie we tell ourselves that would collapse after three missed hot meals.
[21:23:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:23:45] <exec> 08└─That's nice, but I'm pretty sure War in the context of the Constitution refers to *military* war, which, since China is a sovereign nation, would require a declaration of war from Congress. Which it hasn't issued.
[21:24:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheRaven [270] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:24:55] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
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[22:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Occipital In-Headset Room Tracking for VR - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:09] <exec> 08└─It gives you more freedom to look around. Even when seated, with untethered headsets you could at least do a 360° spin or three in your office chair or otherwise move your head around a lot without tangling a cord. A "mixed reality" headset would be able to switch from VR to AR mode (using the fron...
[22:17:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:22] <exec> 08└─I notice these strange timestamps on my posts? Am I missing some timezone setting or something? I looked around, but I didn't see anything that got my attention.
[22:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Server Reboots... and then there was One (for now): hydrogen 2018-01-19 @ 05:00 AM UTC - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:23] <exec> 08└─Now for something completely offtopic . . . I notice these strange timestamps on my posts? Am I missing some timezone setting or something? I looked around, but I didn't see anything that got my attention.
[22:17:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:48] <exec> 08└─What about web stuff?
[22:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:49] <exec> 08└─Just for trying a doorknob on a door that was not even clearly marked "do not enter", isn't clearly not a public entrance, and discovering the door was not locked, you can be accused of hacking.
[22:17:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:52] <exec> 08└─Heck, we had this fight over the Right to Repair your own tractors and cars. It was a completely ridiculous fight that should never have been an issue, if the world wasn't full of dim witted control freaks who hate education for the masses because it makes control harder. That's not exactly the same...
[22:17:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:54] <exec> 08└─Count your blessings, since there was evidence that you knew of the vulnerability before it was used for crime.
[22:17:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:56] <exec> 08└─I share your experience and sentiment, albeit mostly in the world of hardware. You, sir, are a nobleman. You sought improvement, you learned, and your intentions, values, ethics, motivations, curiosities, and rewards were all for the betterment of the world. Your time was not wasted, you've done wel...
[22:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:17:58] <exec> 08└─Some people have issues with foreign family, drug use, mental illness, or serious debt. They don't do drug tests for clearances these days. Foreign family shouldn't be a big problem, unless your foreign family is in/from a problematic country. Family living in Australia or something shouldn't be an...
[22:18:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 970 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:00] <exec> 08└─Bad analogy. It's more like some "yahoo" who uses a tricorder to scan all the doorknobs in his condo building to see who forgot to lock their door, and then politely informs them so some dangerous or deranged person doesn't barge into their house (which is something that actually happened to me when...
[22:18:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:03] <exec> 08└─Never stop buying lottery tickets. [xkcd.com]
[22:18:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:05] <exec> 08└─Similar experience here, not a hacker or even much of a programmer. I have some Google Alerts set and every now and then my target appears in the website of a completely unrelated small business. It seems likely that someone has broken into the website (or database) and is using free storage for war...
[22:18:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:07] <exec> 08└─So the analogy here is that you're being woken up from helpful doorknob-testers because you've decided to live in a dangerous ghetto where people are frequently home-invaded.
[22:18:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:09] <exec> 08└─Lol, this guy patriots.
[22:18:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:18:58] <exec> 08└─As we are dealing with two sons, I am going to avoid that title. You injected the 400K number, which isn't likely the correct value on a rent controlled property anywhere short of the moon. I saw you palm that card. The renter was human too, lost his mother and couldn't support himself. His situat...
[22:19:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:00] <exec> 08└─I don't see how you are going to remove currency if you are going to go with UBI+capitalism as you seem to be suggesting. Having a medium of exchange isn't the core issue here.
[22:19:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:02] <exec> 08└─Build a wall around the walled garden. With rounded corners. And make the people outside the wall pay for it. The people outside the wall are *happily* paying for it, by buying overpriced Apple iDevices in droves.
[22:19:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:04] <exec> 08└─Whether that is getting the neighborhoods to band together and revolt against your current politcal leaders, or moving to a different region, or founding a new nation for all the people like you. The people in SanFran who don't like the housing situation there have no right to complain about their p...
[22:19:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 874 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:06] <exec> 08└─To play devil's advocate, what do you do when you attempt to take care of the poor, and they refuse your help? They attempted to offer free job training to people in Coal Country, and they mostly refused, because they want their coal mining jobs back. There's only so much you can do for people who r...
[22:19:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:08] <exec> 08└─That sounds like people *inside* the wall(ed garden) who buy Apple products. The people outside the walled garden are buying the non-apple products. Also, in droves. But Apple would like everyone outside their wall (ecosystem) to also pay Apple because Apple doesn't make enough money from its overpr...
[22:19:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:11] <exec> 08└─Apple is also repatriating money at a temporarily lower tax rate, and has announced that it will build a new headquarters somewhere (like Amazon). The location they choose will surely give them tax breaks and other incentives.
[22:19:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:13] <exec> 08└─what exactly do you think the reaction to the obsolete poor will be?
[22:19:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:19:15] <exec> 08└─With many phones removing card readers, the next evolution will be USB Type-C memory sticks and whatever connector Apple is using these days.
[22:20:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Universal Donor (Open Source Licensing) - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:39] <exec> 08└─You, and the other proponents of the *BSD license because "MUH FREEDUMBZ" are missing an important point, one I've cribbed from a close friend but came up with myself too: the fewest restrictions up-front does not necessarily equal the most freedom for all. Basically, imagine it like this: you have...
[22:20:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ultra-Thin Memory Storage Device Paves Way for More Powerful Computing - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:20:52] <exec> 08└─It's nevertheless the first thing that is likely to get stacked on the CPU, long before other CPU cores get stacked on top (which is a goal for the industry). Kaby Lake with AMD graphics [anandtech.com] does it like you suggest, adding 4 GB of High Bandwidth Memory on the same chip but off to the si...
[22:22:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:45] <exec> 08└─It makes sense. Or it makes cents. YouTube wants to look like a "good" space for advertisers to promote their junk. Advertisers, at least their marketdroids are sometimes more conservative about what kind of advertising space looks like a good place to invest money to get eyeballs. Or are those eyeb...
[22:22:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:47] <exec> 08└─Actually there is plenty of smart content on YouTube. It is overwhelmingly drowned out by dumb content. But it is there. Lots of it. You have to search for it. You need to know what you are looking for. But without knowing what you are looking for, YouTube is going to pitch all of the most popular j...
[22:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Wake of Logan Paul Controversy, YouTube Tightens Monetization Thresholds for Smaller Channels - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:22:49] <exec> 08└─I have a species of peeve that is suitable for domestication. The title and / or image of your video attracted me to watch it. If you can't start getting near a point within 10 seconds, you're already wasting my time! First I'm going to tell you what I'm going to tell you. Then I'm going to tell you...
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[23:17:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:05] <exec> 08└─First. A dry ice bomb isn't legally an explosive. Second, I'm assuming he has a permit? what? Third: wtf government. this is NOT OK.
[23:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 1633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:06] <exec> 08└─- at UC Santa Cruz. "Where did you steal the chemicals?" asked my arresting officer. "I bought them at Bryant Labs in Berkeley. Here's the receipt." I was in the police station for a while, during which I sang like a bird. My reason? The cop who interviewed me left the California Criminal Code on my...
[23:17:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:08] <exec> 08└─> second-degree felony possession of an explosive device How is that constitutional ? A bullet is an explosive device. Is one legal? How about 500 bullets? How about the powder to refill 500 cartridges ? My tactical nuke shell is definitely covered by the 2nd amendment!
[23:17:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:11] <exec> 08└─You assume he has A permit for dry ice? Guy finds random bag of powder "left by a friend". He has no real idea of what it actually was. Lights same. They might be actually doing the guy a favor by putting him in jail for a month or two.
[23:17:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:13] <exec> 08└─While explosives obviously should be protected under the 11th Amendment, they aren't. That being said, this charge is ridiculous and the prosecutor ought to be shot. Good thing I don't live nearby.
[23:17:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:15] <exec> 08└─A bullet is an explosive device.
[23:17:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2, Flamebait) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:17] <exec> 08└─He from Ontario. Your amendments are meaningless here.
[23:17:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:20] <exec> 08└─*2nd Amendment
[23:17:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:22] <exec> 08└─But, he blew it up like a bomb, and a fireman heard, and saw that he hurt himself... think of the children! We have laws to protect people from themselves, if only somebody speaks up to encourage enforcement... I just cringe at the sloped playing field: how much permitting and safety officer fees di...
[23:17:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:24] <exec> 08└─Seems every owner of a combustion powered vehicle should be charged with possessing explosives.
[23:17:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:26] <exec> 08└─Its a projectile and a case full of a progressive burning solid. Not an explosive.
[23:17:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:28] <exec> 08└─You don't put people in jail for a month or two over a felony. I think we ought to carefully consider whether we the people should be exercising our second amendment rights and starting to fight back against the feds. Federal Government is so corrupt it's not even funny.
[23:17:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:31] <exec> 08└─> popular science-focused YouTube channel Science-men are dangerous to The Agenda.
[23:17:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:33] <exec> 08└─Following that logic, if you wait long enough, and most people Transport Explosives Across State Lines. To the Fed Pen, evil people!
[23:17:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:35] <exec> 08└─Let's sue the prosecutor for interfering with our First Amendment rights to watch these videos. It's also malicious prosecution, you can't arrest someone because they might possibly have committed some crime.
[23:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:37] <exec> 08└─I'm assuming he has an explosives permit. He talks about how they are required in one of his gunpowder videos. What kind of idiot would make gunpowder, post it on youtube, and talk about how the law requires you to have a permit, who didn't themselves have a permit?
[23:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:40] <exec> 08└─Careful, they might learn something! Can't have teenagers thinking science can be fun! (Suspect Mythbusters would have trouble getting made, if they were starting today.)
[23:17:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 1085 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:42] <exec> 08└─I guess this is why all the "professional" shows on Discovery tell you to not try this at home. It might not be so much about safety (even tho that clearly is a thing) but more about liability and getting the appropriate permissions. If one takes something like Mythbusters they tend(ed) not to blow...
[23:17:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:44] <exec> 08└─They started it up again, it's just that the new guys are not as entertaining as Adam and Jamie. They seem to be doing the same type things. Taking silly things from movies and blowing shit up.
[23:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:46] <exec> 08└─To be specific: You don't need a permit to have gun powder. Either modern smokeless gun powder or black powder You need a permit to manufacture or import it in quantity. Black Powder is something of a legal oddity: Black powder is an explosive material for purposes of Federal explosives laws and reg...
[23:17:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Youtuber "King Of Random" is Charged With Possessing Explosives - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:48] <exec> 08└─Its a projectile and a case full of a progressive burning solid. Not an explosive. Actually, that's not true. A "bullet" in the modern sense of a "cartridge" is 4 components:   - a casing, usually brass   - a projectile, usually lead, frequently with a copper jacket   - a powder that fills much o...
[23:17:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Occipital In-Headset Room Tracking for VR - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:17:58] <exec> 08└─I'm sure some VR-fanatic will claim how this will break their immersion. Perhaps they could hook up a GPS to it and then geo-fence a safe VR area.
[23:18:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Quarter of Ethical Hackers Couldn't Report A Cybersecurity Concern - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:18:47] <exec> 08└─With regard to the facts of the matter, 99.999% of all portscans are initiated by script kiddies from their home IP, and everyone should have concerns about their ethic. If they discover a door open, chances of them kindly informing you are negative. If that's the case, then sysadmins should be happ...
[23:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:45] <exec> 08└─The Killdozer guy got killed, though.
[23:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Silicon Valley Charter Buses Vandalized by Pellet/BB Guns or Rocks - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:19:47] <exec> 08└─Bucky Fuller pointed out many years ago that it's crazy to commute to work -- perfectly good living space is left vacant all night in typical office buildings. While I understand the desire for a private residence for a family, all the singles that work for Apple (et al) could easily live in their o...
[23:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:20:08] <exec> 08└─Infestations with the ectoparasitic mite Varroa destructor in combination with its associated viruses have been identified as a crucial driver of these health problems.
[23:20:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:20:10] <exec> 08└─this discovery is sort-of accidental
[23:20:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Lithium Chloride May Help in Fixing Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:20:12] <exec> 08└─You know what would work better?
[23:24:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:15] <exec> 08└─So you would never accept a turncoat to your side, and would send them back to be executed?
[23:24:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:16] <exec> 08└─Little known fact: Soviet defectors were called "Redhats" by US Intel during the Cold War. Fedoras were more of a '40s thing.
[23:24:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ex-CIA Officer Arrested, Suspected of Compromising Chinese Informants - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:24:19] <exec> 08└─I know my only major flaw is that I'm too perfect
[23:25:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] 02 - 06The Thunderbird Redesign Survey - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:45] <exec> 08└─We need Chinese walls between mobile and desktop designers, and having touched an iphone EVER disqualifies you from doing desktop UI design.
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