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[00:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:55] <exec> 08└─Indeed. What is a "Citizen"? How does it relate to, say, "Civilian"? What are the relationships of those words to this one particular organization that calls itself "Government"? Why should every person be classified in relation to that one particular organization? There's an air of religion in all...
[00:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:56] <exec> 08└─through a project called Exoplanet Explorers, part of the online platform Zooniverse, using data from NASA's Kepler space telescope. This is the first multi-planet system discovered entirely through crowdsourcing.
[00:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:00:58] <exec> 08└─If you want to go back to the Victorian era in the UK, you will find that many scientists were "citizen scientists". Men with means and interests who had no need to don a silly square hat or ingratiate themselves into the cult of El [wikipedia.org]. The elite are no such thing!
[00:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:01] <exec> 08└─I think it was a substitute for a journalist who didn't want to write "Amateur". There are professional scientists (i.e. it's their job), and there are amateurs. But don't let me get in the way of SN's outrage.
[00:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:03] <exec> 08└─Sure, mentally substitute "Amateur" if you wish, but it's still the fact that someone chose to us the word "Citizen" as a synonym for "Amateur". That's worth discussing.
[00:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:15] <exec> 08└─Scythians, Sogdians, Turks, Mongols, Tatars, Manchus, Avars, Magyars...
[00:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:17] <exec> 08└─The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince
[00:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:19] <exec> 08└─Going by any words in the article, its hard to locate this area. Deliberately I guess. There have been digs in this area for decades, and you would think they would have the grave robbery issue under control by now. The new site seems closely-located with an older site called Tunnung 0. https://ars....
[00:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:01:21] <exec> 08└─Are you saying there can be only one?
[00:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:02] <exec> 08└─I've noticed that TMB seems to spend a lot of time looking through RT.
[00:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:02:03] <exec> 08└─> Maybe we don't want politicians discussing things like war, surveillance, etc. all stressed out. Or hard up? Let them look all they want! Keep them happy and as far away as possible from Dr. Strangelove's plan: http://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[00:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 1007 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:03:11] <exec> 08└─The fake filibuster (nobody is actually talking until they piss their pants) is allowed because the uniparty wants an excuse to avoid legislation. Both republicans and democrats are free to say things to please the voters, safely knowing that bribe payers ("campaign donors") won't get pissed. So the...
[00:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:03:54] <exec> 08└─Note the limited geography in which polio resides. It's just in useless shithole countries. Trump, Putin, and several other people have the ability to eliminate polio in about an hour. Polio can not survive being turned into plasma. Step 1: request the "football" Step 2: pull out card with special c...
[00:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Data Centers Consider Intel's Rivals - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:04:34] <exec> 08└─Microcode can be loaded with dumb ME, as in home computer that probably has ME but doesn't really expose it. Maybe it's even missing or at least only local functions exist, saving the OEM some license money. Anyway, Intel is not offereing microcode updates for all the CPUs, only last ones, and they...
[00:05:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Can the International Space Station be Saved? Should It be Saved? - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:05:36] <exec> 08└─How long would a lunar space elevator have to be? Geostationary or rather Selenastationary orbit is 250,000 odd miles (the Earth is stationary). Perhaps a Lagrange point? 56000 km to L1 and 67000 to L2, or about double with no counter weight. According to wiki, a 1000kg counterweight means an extra...
[00:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EMC, VMware Security Bugs Throw Gasoline on Cloud Security Fire - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:06:09] <exec> 08└─What Volkswagen did was not "engineering", but "fraud". And, the engineers actively participated in the fraud. I've posted before, that I hate the idea of sacrificing engineers to protect the management. But, I hate the idea of protecting anyone just as much. Doesn't matter how high or how low you a...
[00:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:08:06] <exec> 08└─Forcing? Sorry, you don't get to blame the results of your own poor foresight on anyone else. Nobody forced you to make the choices you made.
[00:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:08:08] <exec> 08└─Use the correct words instead of ones that appeal to people's feels if you don't want to be called out on your bullshit. Slavery is involuntary. The choices you make in life are not. One is someone else being evil, the other is you being fucking retarded and getting what you deserve.
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[01:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:00:52] <exec> 08└─The Wealthy Elite are the Healthy Elite. The rest of you poor people, fucking die and reduce the excess population. - TheMightyBuzzard
[01:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:06] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately that question remains answered. It is science done using excel spreadsheets that you email to a REAL™ scientist when you are done.
[01:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:07] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately that question remains answered. It is science done using excel spreadsheets that you email to a REAL™ scientist when you are done.
[01:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:09] <exec> 08└─Found some more lights in the sky? The only thing that needs to be found is the curve. The Earth is flat.
[01:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:01:26] <exec> 08└─It generally takes professional archaeologists a long period of very careful excavation before they get to any real depth. These are scientists engaged in the study of ancient sites, and every little bit that can tell them about those ancient peoples, up to and including their garbage and even their...
[01:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:10] <exec> 08└─Or was it ads & spam email trying to access content?
[01:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:02:11] <exec> 08└─Maybe 24,000 per person? If it is a bunch of wankers, I mean let’s be accurate.
[01:05:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Can the International Space Station be Saved? Should It be Saved? - 823 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:05] <exec> 08└─It's a "third generation" modular space station. They were able to keep adding new modules as needed and do some useful stuff because of that. They were able to inhabit it while it was still being built. BEAM [wikipedia.org] didn't exist before the space station went up. But because of the modular d...
[01:05:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Can the International Space Station be Saved? Should It be Saved? - 590 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:42] <exec> 08└─It's not a trivial project, obviously, but it's probably the easiest space elevator we could build in a place where we have an interest. Mars has twice the gravity, Earth is out for now because the gravity is so high (and other problems), etc. The only place easier would be something like Ceres, but...
[01:06:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06Steep Slopes on Mars Reveal Structure of Buried Ice - 561 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:06:23] <exec> 08└─Trouble is, if we use that water in any useful way, we will surely end up letting it all sublimate away, by carelessness or accident. Liquid water is not expected to be found until you drill down to depths of 4 km in equatorial regions, deepening to 5-6 km in temperate zones before plunging to over...
[01:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:14] <exec> 08└─#1 greatest swindle of our times. Swindle #2 is immigration.
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[02:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:10] <exec> 08└─Einstein spent how long double checking relativity?
[02:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:11] <exec> 08└─Really I'm just parodying some people I've interacted with who didn't think it was "scientific" enough to input data into excel (if only they knew...). Also, the "citizen" label is quite creepy. Once you've seen it from the inside you realize "pro" science is >99% BS at this point anyway though.
[02:01:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Swiss Archaeologist Discovers The Earliest Tomb Of A Scythian Prince - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:30] <exec> 08└─Somewhat related, there's a documentary about French-Mongolian efforts to excavate Scythian burials: The Frozen Tombs of Mongolia [youtube.com]. It's interesting to see how they have to battle the perma frost to get to the burials.
[02:01:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 457 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:55] <exec> 08└─We also don't know for sure if this is 1) the truth, 2) specific to the actual parliament's network vs some public wifi, sharing the same gateway, 3) actual porn vs tabloids (as you mention) 4) whether or not the destination IPs were simply a web farm hosting site or in any way specific to a port ve...
[02:01:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 609 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:01:59] <exec> 08└─Surely they are overachievers, Shirley, if they can access pr0n 24,000 times in six months. That's 133.33 accesses per day (for 180 daze), 7 days a week. Now spread 133 accesses per day into a portion of the hours of the day when they would be wanking, how many wanks per day, and for how many member...
[02:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:40] <exec> 08└─You need a front end that is more userfriendly than [Skype | iMessage], which tries to use [Signal | Telegram | Wire], but transparently drops back to [Skype | iMessage] when it has to. You will never get most people to switch based on what they see as tin-foil-hattery, especially if it makes things...
[02:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:42] <exec> 08└─Their headquarter are in the US, do you really think they could tell the NSA no? I'm not saying I like Microsoft. I don't. But this is something no company can escape. If you want reliably private communications, you need open source that's been audited by security researchers.
[02:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bobthecimmerian [6834] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:02:44] <exec> 08└─I had the same problem. But I hit on a partial solution. http://www.tristanharris.com [tristanharris.com] -- instead of convincing other people or even myself to get off hosted networks becaus...
[02:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Can the International Space Station be Saved? Should It be Saved? - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:52] <exec> 08└─Actually it seems like the West itself and Mid-East are trying to destabilize the West. When was the last Russian terrorist attack in your country? I have not heard of a single one in any Western country in recent memory. I have heard of several mid-eastern attacks, the responsibility of which lies...
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[03:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 3118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:52] <exec> 08└─I have a power. Yes, a power. What kind of power, you ask? The power to see. The power to understand. The power to experience. I'm the Assteller. I can see the future of your ass! You're having an enjoyable time on the beach. Suddenly, every other person vanishes and you alone are left. You take a l...
[03:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:53] <exec> 08└─Firmware updates can be distributed to irradiate the gonads of every gadget user. Since old people are already postmenopausal or sterile anyway, there will be no effect on old people, who are the only people who matter. Old people already have our nest eggs, and young people are useless shit taking...
[03:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:56] <exec> 08└─They should do everything in their power to encourage it. They're a business not an interesctional feminist support group.
[03:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:00:58] <exec> 08└─The letter quotes studies by Professor Jean M. Twenge, a psychologist at San Diego State University, who is also working with the shareholders in an effort to persuade Apple to do more
[03:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:00] <exec> 08└─Shareholders (in it for the dividends): encourage, promote, and improve it. Concerned Citizens: Stop It! Think Of The Children! Grumpy older techy types: post on news agglomeration sites, in slightly morally superior tones. Everyone else: meh.
[03:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:02] <exec> 08└─Negro lynched on baseboard after fight with pregnant mosquito, sources say.
[03:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:04] <exec> 08└─He's the Grinch! The Naaaaaaaaaautical Grinch! He's slimy when he's sleepy, and shitty when he's peepee! He's the Griiiiiiiinch! Oh, my. The lights are being sucked out of the room! And what will become of your defenseless snap...? Oh, there was an elevator sound! Get him! Tickle his ass!
[03:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:07] <exec> 08└─Fuck yeah I love running cigarette ads on TV. Who gives a shit if tobacco is addictive and kills kids. It's their own fucking fault for smoking so much so why shouldn't I make bank by helping fools to kill themselves. More money for me, and money is the only important thing in life. Child labor is g...
[03:01:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:09] <exec> 08└─Child labor is great too, and I especially enjoy seeing the working kids drop dead from overwork on Christmas Day.
[03:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:11] <exec> 08└─Of course, doing things you like is bad, unless it's going to bars and parties with other people. Introverts are inferior and all of their hobbies are merely addictions. If you have very little desire for socialization, you need to be fixed. Stop liking things that I don't like to a degree that I fi...
[03:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:20] <exec> 08└─Which is why modern society promotes pollution (with the climate change debate centered only on CO2 as a smokescreen). Future plebeians in need of therapy to overcome pollution, of 34 distinct genders using artificial wombs to procreate, fighting each other to a chance of a work, moving with self dr...
[03:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:22] <exec> 08└─fighting each other to a chance of a work, [...] unlikely to cause problems.
[03:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:25] <exec> 08└─for better immunity and less cancer and other chronic disease: https://www.amazon.com [amazon.com] John Mackey, co-founder & co CEO of Whole Foods Market and co-author of that book is someone who has really put his money where his mouth is on this...
[03:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:27] <exec> 08└─Immunotherapy can uninstall Windows 10?
[03:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:29] <exec> 08└─immunotherapy blue screen of death.
[03:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:47] <exec> 08└─There is clearly something different from discovering a planet using your backyard telescope to classifying millions of images with thousands of other people, handed to you by a research team and their algorithm. If you don't like the branding, stay salty.
[03:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:48] <exec> 08└─Citizen Scientist is the trendy name, and I have no trouble with it when looking at phenological phases of trees and bushes the academics have asked me to monitor.
[03:02:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03janrinok [52] 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 1219 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:02:26] <exec> 08└─Although there are probably numerous examples of MPs accessing what most people would describe as pornography, the figures are a little bit skewed. I recently listened to a radio broadcast which explained that some of the reported incidents include accessing newspapers that are on general sale in th...
[03:03:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mmh [721] 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 304 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:05] <exec> 08└─Yes, lets all trust Microsoft to provide us with End-to-End encryption. The same Microsoft that is known to work closely with the NSA and participates in the PRISM program. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia....
[03:03:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 761 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:03:38] <exec> 08└─I know that the House and Senate were structured for population and equality of voice between the States, but traditionally I've always thought of the House as the body having the closer interests of the people and the Senate that of the Union.... It seems backwards to me that the House would pass a...
[03:04:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe [2583] 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:04:20] <exec> 08└─Reality doesn't care about what either you or I think on the matter. What I said is backed by evidence, feel free to point me to any better studies you know of that disagree. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov [nih.gov] - Joe
[03:04:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 1) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:04:45] <exec> 08└─Related: https://www.nationalgeographic.com [nationalgeographic.com] "Nearly a Billion People Still Defecate Outdoors. Here’s Why. The problem isn’t just a lack of toilets—it’s a lack of toilets that people want to use. The resul...
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[03:06:29] <exec> 08└─Your last statement is *cUcKoO* !!!!
[03:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Can the International Space Station be Saved? Should It be Saved? - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:06:31] <exec> 08└─Still be easier to use a linear accelerator on the Moon. I guess for practice it would work, build the linear accelerator to put your building materials in the L1 spot and start building. Any which way, it is going to take quite a bit of lunar industry to do.
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[04:00:55] <exec> 08└─They should do everything in their power to encourage it. They're a business not an interesctional feminist support group.
[04:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:03] <exec> 08└─I grind children's bones to powder and use it to de-ice my driveway.
[04:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:06] <exec> 08└─Turn the kids into jobless dependents, more work for everyone else or easy extermination via robot army.
[04:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:08] <exec> 08└─Fuck the young people, old people got ours. SoylentNews is old people
[04:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:10] <exec> 08└─I grind children's bones to powder and use it to de-ice my driveway.
[04:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:12] <exec> 08└─I remember when we kids used to gather in the streets, to hit baseballs with a bat, often breaking neighbor's windows, then run so nobody ever knew who did the deed. This is a very welcome respite to the mischief *my* generation was doing!
[04:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 982 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:15] <exec> 08└─Is, of course, to sell more gadgets. The gadget sellers are in the business of -- wait for it -- selling gadgets. And when they sell more gadgets, business is good. The agglomerations of people and resources that we call "corporations" exist to maximize profit, not address societal issues. So why ev...
[04:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:17] <exec> 08└─I have a paved concrete driveway. Stupid kid. Get off my lawn and get into my bone chipper.
[04:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 1743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:19] <exec> 08└─We banned child labor because unions were run by non-children who didn't want the competition. Child labor gives kids a valued purpose. Modern children have pointless lives. Nothing they do brings income for the family. At best, they can do chores. We have had an odd obsession with self-esteem, but...
[04:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:31] <exec> 08└─Bill Gate apparently doesn't use Windows 10 and didn't like Windows 8, so maybe.
[04:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 1012 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:33] <exec> 08└─Actually, throughout most of history, those who could afford medical "treatment" died much more quickly than the poors who had to just "walk it off". Leeches, and bloodletting were common. Probably killed Rene Descartes. Physicians used to have a coat, and the coat had two pockets. One pocket held...
[04:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:35] <exec> 08└─I heard Bill Gates is running Gentoo Linux these days. That's what I hear. Seriously. He calls it "immuno-therapy".
[04:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:55] <exec> 08└─Why "CITIZEN"?
[04:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Citizen Scientists Credited for Discovery of Multi-Planet System - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:56] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_science [wikipedia.org] Citizen science (CS; also known as community science, crowd science, crowd-sourced science, civic science, volunteer monitoring or networked science) is scientific research conducted, in whole or in part, by amateur (or nonprofessional) s...
[04:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03cwadge [3324] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:03:27] <exec> 08└─Skype is a complex, probably intentionally obfuscated mess. It is a breeding ground for security vulnerabilities. Encryption, in this case, may just serve to add the impression of safety more than actually providing it. I personally know a lot of folks who've had their systems compromised via Skype,...
[04:04:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:04:11] <exec> 08└─It seems there was some sort of direction provided by President Trump on the 9th of this year, which was Tuesday. This is it: https://www.dni.gov [dni.gov] So now there will be regular public reports about numbers of USA people whose identities were revealed durin...
[04:04:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:04:56] <exec> 08└─Any of the larger nuclear powers could end polio in about an hour. Nuke all of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and northern Nigeria. That's it. We're done. Polio is gone.
[04:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:15] <exec> 08└─Troll much? The only way you could actually believe your own bullshit is if you live under a rock, alone.
[04:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:16] <exec> 08└─Can't be knocking immigration - 98% of my ancestors were immigrants from Northern Europe, the other 2% walked the land bridge to Alaska a bit earlier. None of them had a nickle to their name when they got here, most would have been in prison or worse if they didn't come.
[04:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:19] <exec> 08└─Or I could just believe in personal responsibility instead of blaming all your woes on others.
[04:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:21] <exec> 08└─Stop trying to deflect from the original point, asshole. You're putting up a smokescreen--at least I hope to fuck that's smoke and not high-pressure diarrhea, jeez. There are times when someone's choices boil down to "X or die," and most people for some reason have an aversion to death. Hell, you co...
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[05:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03tftp [806] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:12] <exec> 08└─That's nothing yet. Give it a couple of decades, and the streets will be deserted. Everyone will be inside their VR capsules; children - playing, adults - working, and dead - living.
[05:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:13] <exec> 08└─tl;dr: profit
[05:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 811 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:15] <exec> 08└─Well, anybody having fun? Anybody getting hurt? And if you think today's kids are bad, I am an old coot right now, and the stories I could tell you about the women of my parent's generation... mink stoles.... fancy hats festooned with rare-bird feathers... Buffums, Bullocks, Windsor, Wilshire, Hi...
[05:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:18] <exec> 08└─mo mony, mo mony, mo mony!!!@@#@$#!!!! "In Living Color!"
[05:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:33] <exec> 08└─I think I'm closer to understanding. Thank you for explaining.
[05:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:01:35] <exec> 08└─Wot? Eth got his anti-semitic racist ass fired, and is posting AC?
[05:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:03:27] <exec> 08└─He was the valedictorian of his high school, has a master's from Harvard, can code in fortran but cannot figure out how to use email So we use Facebook
[05:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Shadow Launches its Cloud Computer for Gamers in California - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:03:40] <exec> 08└─All of the downsides of investment with none of the equity
[05:04:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:04:58] <exec> 08└─I remember one story about the Gates Foundation plowing money into vaccination against specific diseases when some local people were begging desperately for funding to deal with the sewage problem. The local pleas were being ignored because it was not what the money was earmarked for -- even though...
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[06:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 6371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:49] <exec> 08└─Mom and I never had our talk the day she had the difference of opinion with her sister, but about a week later, she sent Susan out to my darkroom, to tell me she wanted to see me in her room. She was in another negligee, but this one was much thinner than the previous one I had...
[06:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Touché) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:51] <exec> 08└─is businesses hiring a lot less employees, because they cannot afford to. That means more low education people on government cheese, which means more Democrat voters, to keep the handouts flowing. Everything going according to plan.
[06:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:53] <exec> 08└─A small boy runs up to his father, crying. Son: "Daddy, daddy! I broke my toy!" Father: "Again? That's the tenth one this week. Well, I'll just buy you another one, since they are cheap and disposable." Son: "Yay! Thanks, daddy! I love you!" A heartwarming moment between a father and son. In the bac...
[06:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:55] <exec> 08└─Never before has a submission gone so totally wrong as this one. I have double spam modded, and I sincerely expect them to stick. Or at least be a foot-long.
[06:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:00:57] <exec> 08└─Really, who cares? Subway kept Jared as their spokesperson even as they knew he was getting underager prostitutes sent to his room. I know that many corporations in America are evil and amoral, but that really takes the cake. Boycott Subway so you can be emptying some poor sexually abused underage p...
[06:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:00] <exec> 08└─Triggered. No matter how much you and your pathetic ilk try to control the narrative, the truth eventually gets out.
[06:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:03:08] <exec> 08└─In related news I'd like to see the stats on attempts at sleeping, eating and using the toilet, you know the other biological needs. Now the other debate over what biological species the members of parliament are part of, I will not get into, but I suppose it's close to reptilian so the first point...
[06:04:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 155 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:01] <exec> 08└─It's all part of the Crisis Industrial Complex. It may sound all *conspiratorial* an' all, but really it's perfectly natural. Everything is an opportunity.
[06:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:24] <exec> 08└─Don't be so easily fooled. Democrats didn't have to vote for this bill, _this time_, for it to pass. They certainly have in the past though. Keep in mind that Obama granted the telecoms retroactive immunity for the federal crimes they committed. They all jumped the gun on the dragnet surveillance of...
[06:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:26] <exec> 08└─You should keep in mind that Wyden holds dual-citizenship. You know, quite a lot of them do. And it's not like it's a random list of other nations either. He has fairly consistently stood up for citizens rights, especially privacy. Overall he's probably more good than bad.
[06:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:28] <exec> 08└─It's not about republicans or democrats "waiting to regain power". It's the same people. They have power right now. You just didn't elect them. They aren't elected. They buy influence. They control the monetary system.
[06:04:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe [2583] 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 404 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:46] <exec> 08└─There is no other animal known to be infected by poliovirus. Absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence, but scientists have looked really hard and understand a lot about the virus from both an epidemiology and a virology standpoint. Bacteria do not have the machinery necessary to sup...
[06:04:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 172 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:48] <exec> 08└─That other AC was obviously playing with your spelling mistake ("heard" = past form of "to hear", where you meant "herd"), stating that he or she actually didn't hear that.
[06:04:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Joe [2583] 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 145 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:50] <exec> 08└─Damn, last time this happened I used "aloud" instead of "allowed". Intestinal replication of the virus is not aloud on account of heard immunity.
[06:04:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Zinho [759] 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 1157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:04:57] <exec> 08└─Good question, the answer to which is fairly well answered by news articles [tribune.com.pk] detailing what Aid agencies are concerned about in the region. * For the most part, only rich people have toilets in their home at all, let alone connections to public sewers * For the most part, there are n...
[06:05:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:05:16] <exec> 08└─One could also point out that countries with polio problems can't seem to manage their own shit...
[06:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Walmart Raises Minimum Hourly Wage to $11, Expands "Scan & Go" Program - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:36] <exec> 08└─Nope, not buying it, unless you're like 12 years old you should know that there's as much luck in life, things beyond an individual's control, as there is making personally responsible choices. Fish in the ocean live and die by luck more than skill, strength or "responsible choices." Part of human s...
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[07:00:58] <exec> 08└─Not a argument.
[07:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:59] <exec> 08└─I will fuck your mind, or what is left of it, since there is so little to begin with, using a strigil to scrape off what little of rational thought remains. The truth that you think is truth is actually Faux truth, or Russian Truth, which are in fact the same things. We do not control the narrative,...
[07:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:01] <exec> 08└─Agreed. Mod me up, Tanto!
[07:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 1104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:04] <exec> 08└─Right there in the article, we have info from the University of Washington's School of Public Policy and Governance. Not enough for you? OK, then try an introductory economics textbook: ECONOMICS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CHOICE FOURTEENTH EDITION GWARTNEY | STROUP | SOBEL | MACPHERSON ISBN-13: 978-1-111-9...
[07:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:06] <exec> 08└─You can pretty much determine this for any business. Simply ask if there is some sort of serious barrier to market entry. For example, there could be network effects (nobody wants a facebook clone or dating service without users) or a patent. If there is a serious barrier to market entry, the busine...
[07:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:08] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about the f'ed up warped world of economics where paying more wages actually results in less money for the worker, but... It just doesn't make sense to work for less than a living wage. If you can't survive on what they pay you how are you going to, er, survive? Why would a per...
[07:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:38] <exec> 08└─> As long as a child is learning skills that will cause total lifetime earnings to increase, the child should remain in school. You are mistaking earnings/cash income with value.
[07:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimios [201] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Shadow Launches its Cloud Computer for Gamers in California - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:02] <exec> 08└─Well let's see, the typical FPS game has an input lag (time from button press to thing happening on screen) of at least 67ms NOT including display lag.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag#Display_lag [wikipedia.org] Now you introduce the network lag. Control input->data center. Then you introduce...
[07:04:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:40] <exec> 08└─or something really foolish like 100% paid college
[07:04:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:04:41] <exec> 08└─He's going to be slightly transparent about the constitutional violations. Yes, slightly transparent, because revealing that number means very little. That's amazing. What a great leap forward. Asking for them to not violate the Constitution in the first place would be extremist, though.
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[08:00:50] <exec> 08└─It's the saintly thing of the United States of America, that clones, united, turned invisible to their methodical ways. Sure, but on the other hand, what the fuck do you know that you haven't already read!? I incubated it in my mouth!
[08:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:10] <exec> 08└─there is a chance Subway has run the numbers and worked out *exactly* how much it can charge (and what excuses it needs to convince xustomers/justify that price, and bing, profit, screwed employees, and, likely, screwed customers.
[08:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03seeprime [5580] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:12] <exec> 08└─I doubt the plan was to hurt people. That's just the unintended consequences of forcing higher wages upon workers in jobs that were never intended to be careers. Get a real account. Posting political opinions as anon makes you a troll.
[08:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:14] <exec> 08└─-sta. I have a friend who was a barista at the time. He loved his job. Being homeless is really boring. I wanted to find a way to occupy myself. I expected that I would enjoy working with people. I got no interviews. Perhaps they couldn't understand why someone with 25 years experience as a software...
[08:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:16] <exec> 08└─These are all voluntary transactions. Either side can walk away from the deal. If a better deal is not available elsewhere, then that just tells you that you're getting a good deal. I know, you'd like $100/hour wages and $2 subs, but the lack of that doesn't mean you're getting screwed. If you could...
[08:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:18] <exec> 08└─Each worker has their own reasons to work or not work. The CEO isn't supposed to pry into people's lives to know anything about these reasons. Maybe somebody needs job experience for a reference. Maybe they are a kid trying to get time away from annoying parents. Maybe they need to show income -- an...
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[08:01:20] <exec> 08└─Reason? As in State Policy Network, Koch Foundation, and ALEC? Pushing shit partisanship articles is NOT a replacement for news-for-nerds. Peddle this bullshit over on the depressingly-overrun-by-bros shitpile that used to be slashdot. It doesn't belong here.
[08:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:01:52] <exec> 08└─That had better be some amazing "value" to justify cutting the lifetime earnings of a poor person by 15%.
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[09:01:04] <exec> 08└─I see no reason to take David Jones, or any other business owner, at their word. If David Jones won't reveal his personal finances, in particular, how much money those Seattle Subways make, then we can't figure out for ourselves whether they really are that tight for money, or whether Jones is just...
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[09:01:17] <exec> 08└─OK. 1. The fact that American employers, especially fast food employers, continue to do their best to screw over American employees by restricting their hours in order to avoid providing stable full-time employment or any benefits such as health insurance or paid sick leave is a completely separate...
[09:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:19] <exec> 08└─"If you can't survive on what they pay you how are you going to, er, survive?" Hyperbole. Many people survive on far less, therefore it is clearly not impossible to survive. Impossible to survive in the style to which you believe you are entitled? Now THAT might well be true.
[09:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:21] <exec> 08└─To make this even more fishy is that the math given doesn't add up to his story. If the minimum wage is up 3% and hours are down 9% with the average employee taking home $125 less home total, that means that the franchise is paying less overall in wages than they were before the wage increase which...
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[09:01:23] <exec> 08└─Just pay the increased price. If you can't afford to buy a ready made sandwich then make your own goddamn sandwich for 1/10th the price. It's not rocket science, although you're free to add rocket [google.nl] if you like. Probably better for you anyway.
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[09:02:12] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, Whole Foods has grown too large to sustain its ideals, and is now serving up slightly better versions of the same slops as all the others. If you don't believe me, print out a list of their "unacceptable ingredients" [wholefoodsmarket.com] and then go to a store and see how often you...
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[10:00:51] <exec> 08└─So you seek the future, do you? But there is no future without ass, and I, the Assteller, can see the future of your ass! You're in a big city, standing on the sidewalk at night. Suddenly a group of people approaches you, and you somehow know that they are illegal immigrants from Mexico. They grab y...
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[10:01:24] <exec> 08└─OK. 1. The fact that American employers, especially fast food employers, continue to do their best to screw over American employees by restricting their hours in order to avoid providing stable full-time employment or any benefits such as health insurance or paid sick leave is a completely separate...
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[10:01:29] <exec> 08└─He's also paying less for basic worker benefits like Industrial Insurance which in Washington State, is calculated based on a formula that has at its root, the number of hours worked. The jist of it is: hrs * risk classification * experience rating (a little more complicated, but the end result is s...
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[10:01:31] <exec> 08└─First of all, those numbers were norms for the city, not specific to the Subway restaurant example. But anyway... Suppose the business decided that the total wages paid out to all employees would not change. (this is your expectation) Since the wage rate goes up, the amount of hours must go down. So...
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[10:01:33] <exec> 08└─That means more low education people on government cheese, which means more Democrat voters, to keep the handouts flowing. Everything going according to plan.
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[10:01:35] <exec> 08└─If you can't afford to buy a ready made sandwich then make your own goddamn sandwich for 1/10th the price.
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[10:01:38] <exec> 08└─Hyperbole. Many people survive on far less, therefore it is clearly not impossible to survive. Impossible to survive in the style to which you believe you are entitled? Now THAT might well be true.
[10:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:40] <exec> 08└─The fact that American employers, especially fast food employers, continue to do their best to screw over American employees by restricting their hours in order to avoid providing stable full-time employment or any benefits such as health insurance or paid sick leave is a completely separate problem...
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[10:01:42] <exec> 08└─A lot of that seems obvious. That doesn't make it true. Those arguments give us modern Venezuela, with a population that is literally starving. Failure to understand basic economics has killed well over a hundred million people in the past century. You talk of minimum wage being "a career wage for e...
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[10:01:44] <exec> 08└─Fight the power comrade. Until you are the power and you´ll do even worse than the shitheads that are in charge now. Oh well, at lest it makes a change.
[10:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 2454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:47] <exec> 08└─I think it may well be the Government/Banking using their power to stoke inflation... so as to try to keep spending curves "looking good" numerically. With more wages, landlords can hike rents, and get it instead of getting a moveout-to-their-car. More people will no longer qualify for government s...
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[10:01:49] <exec> 08└─Fight the power comrade. Until you are the power and you´ll do even worse than the shitheads that are in charge now. Oh well, at lest it makes a change.
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[10:01:51] <exec> 08└─You speak of survival while advocating for policy that is roughly (not fully fleshed out) communist or socialist. That kind of nonsense killed over 100 million in the past 100 years. Let's take that last item for example, because right now is a special time: in the UK right now, all non-urgent opera...
[10:02:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 243 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:02:02] <exec> 08└─Shareholders (in it for the dividends): encourage, promote, and improve it. Concerned Citizens: Stop It! Think Of The Children! Grumpy older techy types: post on news agglomeration sites, in slightly morally superior tones. Everyone else: meh.
[10:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:02:23] <exec> 08└─I think the other problem is a group of kids today is seen as a "gang". In my day, it was just a group of kids. Seems like the instant you take your eyes off your kids today, some gang recruiter is after them like Jehovah's Witnesses after converts. The kids aren't wised up enough to see what's goin...
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[11:01:39] <exec> 08└─I also disagree with the moderation, and did what I could. I believe both you and the AC are right on. It's just inflationary... and discourages businesses from hiring, leaving the public to pick up yet more laid off people. Once people have lost their job, its all too likely they will be on the do...
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[11:02:10] <exec> 08└─> As long as a child is learning skills that will cause total lifetime earnings to increase, the child should remain in school. You are mistaking earnings/cash income with value.
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[12:00:54] <exec> 08└─once obstruction of justice happens ONCE (it happened according to TFS), the mere presence of this malware is proof of obstruction of justice. Well done Uber, as usual. But alas, I am talking about justice, I dunno about law.
[12:01:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03TheReaperD [5556] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 333 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:30] <exec> 08└─To make this even more fishy is that the math given doesn't add up to his story. If the minimum wage is up 3% and hours are down 9% with the average employee taking home $125 less home total, that means that the franchise is paying less overall in wages than they were before the wage increase which...
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[12:01:44] <exec> 08└─> My son has a minimum wage job at Ace Hardware. He got it at age 14 so that he would come to understand a work environment, get a reference, and gain a better understanding of why he must do well in school. The money is a bonus. Your ideas would deny all that to him, because he wasn't worth a high...
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[12:01:45] <exec> 08└─I remain skeptical of these claims, especially in light of the outrageous levels of executive "compensation". The complaint would have much more credibility if backed by some data showing that the board and the C-levels have tightened their belts a little. Otherwise this just smacks of the same insi...
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[12:01:48] <exec> 08└─Taxpayers should also not tolerate having desperate people willing to work any job to avoid having their families starve, but same people arguing against minimum wage also argue against all social programs. Negative economic impact on the entire country from you accepting an exploitative job is almo...
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[12:01:50] <exec> 08└─So what's the problem here?
[12:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:52] <exec> 08└─The poor/heavy spenders just need to spend so much money that they become, collectively, too big to fail, and then if they throw a few more dollars each at their senator, maybe the government will bail them out! That's how wall Street does it! 💩
[12:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:54] <exec> 08└─Solution is, the employees by the and rise in pay as the CEO. He gets a bonus? They get one too, same percentage. Stock options? Yup. Sears executives here in Canada got bonuses for failing at their jobs, employees got shafted. Fair?
[12:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:56] <exec> 08└─Sh*t f*cking spell check tablet shit feck shit Preview shit......feck Employees get the same rise in pay Shitfeck
[12:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:01:59] <exec> 08└─This is the standard blame displacement. Blame the employer for policy consequences. In any other market, we'd expect supply and demand to hold (for example, an increase in cost of employees resulting in a reduction in demand for such employees), but somehow that doesn't hold for employment.
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[12:02:01] <exec> 08└─You'd prefer underage whores be out of work and starve? You heartless bastard!
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[12:02:03] <exec> 08└─Let's say that we don't increase minimum wage, BUT we also decide that we are not going to subsidize low paying employers through welfare, food stamps, etc. How many $5 footlongs do you suppose a Subway can sell in Seattle if it is staffed with hepatitis infected homeless people who haven't showered...
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[13:00:51] <exec> 08└─Queue the resident trolls and sociopaths bitching about what a terrible affront to our personal freedoms this is...
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[13:01:36] <exec> 08└─He's also paying less for basic worker benefits like Industrial Insurance which in Washington State, is calculated based on a formula that has at its root, the number of hours worked. The jist of it is: hrs * risk classification * experience rating (a little more complicated, but the end result is s...
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[13:01:59] <exec> 08└─So the end result is businesses a business hiring a lot less employees, because they cannot afford to.
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[13:02:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, right, we need to apply macroeconomics because one fucking company with mediocre products, company which is a [beep] in the Seattle economy, can't afford (or doesn't want) to lower the price. What a tragedy, mate!!!
[13:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:02:02] <exec> 08└─So let me get my math straight: An hour's work at minimum wage in Subway was just over enough to buy two footlong sandwiches sold at subway and prepared by said employee. Three sandwiches, after the minimum wage increase. Am I the only one who thinks this is either an absurdly expensive sandwich or...
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[13:02:04] <exec> 08└─Venezuela? What? You seem to be imagining a scenario in which the minimum wage just keeps uncontrollably climbing until it rivals wages for specialized jobs. Yet that is not what anyone actually wants. The $15 people are asking for is just a realignment of the minimum wage with the buying power it h...
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[13:02:06] <exec> 08└─The UK has a Conservative government. Conservative policies have caused the current crisis. In the context of the topic, Conservatives opposed introduction of the minimum wage. In 2010, two years after the global financial crisis hit, and after 13 years of a nominally socialist party in charge, heal...
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[13:02:57] <exec> 08└─Fortunately, the CDC has now banned the term "evidence-bassed medicine", so perhaps we can start killing off the rich by means of medical treatment again, in the near future.
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[13:05:06] <exec> 08└─You're thinking of Australians. Nobody in the US has quotas except for mobile.
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[14:00:54] <exec> 08└─Nature is cruel. Animals eat other animals with no consideration given to pain and suffering. I often think that eating meat is wrong, but I still do it. I'm too greedy and selfish not to. However, Nature obviously uses animal life as a food source. I've never killed a chicken, but I've often killed...
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[14:00:55] <exec> 08└─Queue the resident trolls and sociopaths
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[14:00:57] <exec> 08└─Nature is cruel. Animals eat other animals with no consideration given to pain and suffering.
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[14:01:00] <exec> 08└─Considering how people treat each other all the time, we definately are just plain animals.
[14:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:02] <exec> 08└─There has been all sorts of nonsense said over the years about animals and pain. In fact, I once read that some professional association of veterinary surgeons used some pretty flimsy reasoning to conclude that animals don't really get affected by pain because they're not "conscious" or self-aware o...
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[14:01:04] <exec> 08└─For anyone that hasn't seen this, the lobsters try to climb out of the boiling water, typically the cook holds a cover down over the pot. Is this just a reflex, or do crustaceans feel pain/agony the same way that we do? I saw it first as a kid, along the Maine coast where it is very common. I felt b...
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[14:01:06] <exec> 08└─Before I say the following, I'll start by saying I'm predisposed not to make animals have unnecessary pain as well, and what you say is a reasonable intuitive argument. If it were my choice, I'd tend toward methods of killing animals for food that cause less pain. On the other hand, you use words li...
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[14:01:08] <exec> 08└─So, where's the link to the scientific evidence that shows that "mechanical destruction of the brain" or electrical stunning causes the lobster less suffering to lobsters than being chucked into boiling water? Especially considering the odds of people screwing up the new, unfamiliar, "humane" proced...
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[14:01:11] <exec> 08└─In fact, I once read that some professional association of veterinary surgeons used some pretty flimsy reasoning to conclude that animals don't really get affected by pain because they're not "conscious" or self-aware or some drivel and therefore don't require pain killers...
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[14:01:13] <exec> 08└─You make some good points, but some animals have more capacity for human-like thought than others. For example, the great apes, monkeys, whales and dolphins, many birds such as corvids and parrots, octopuses, dogs etc. The harder we look, the more surprises we find. We should err on the side of caut...
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[14:02:24] <exec> 08└─For some reason conservative minds are highly susceptible to memes, the "socialism killed hundreds of millions" is a pretty recent one. It doesn't matter how many countries have successful universal healthcare, implementing it in the US would LIRERALLY kill millions!!! *eye rolls*
[14:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:26] <exec> 08└─You speak of survival while advocating for policy that is roughly (not fully fleshed out) communist or socialist. That kind of nonsense killed over 100 million in the past 100 years. Let's take that last item for example, because right now is a special time: in the UK right now, all non-urgent opera...
[14:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:28] <exec> 08└─They cut my wife's hours from 30 hrs/week to 12 hrs/week due to the minimum wage increase. Better yet... When Obamacare started years ago, they ceased all employee medical coverage benefits nationwide. Thanks Ofucker.
[14:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:02:30] <exec> 08└─> Why would anyone even choose to go to work at all at those wages? No one chooses to. Well, maybe an occasional teenager working part-time. Other employees are working there because if they don't they'll starve. This way they're just sick and hungry. Improvement!
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[15:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:00:52] <exec> 08└─Canada, home to water like you wouldn't believe. And great beer. And fine, fine women. Did i mention water? Yeah. Water. Drink Canada Dry? I think not!
[15:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 696 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:00:53] <exec> 08└─The free marketeer answer is "raise the price." This will not work immediately because users do not know how much they are spending until they get their bill at the end of the month. One answer to that is to set up a website that lists the water usage for a given address. However, only the most curi...
[15:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:00:55] <exec> 08└─But the water in Canada is all frozen half the year, and half frozen all the year...
[15:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:00:57] <exec> 08└─No, the market answer is not "raise the price" but rather "the price will go up". You authoritarians believe everything is, or should be, controlled by government. That is the opposite of market action. The market makes adjustments to supply and demand without some central all-knowing omnipotent and...
[15:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:00:59] <exec> 08└─I don't know the local geography of Cape Town, but one of the few things that will be saving the people of Florida during their coming water crises is that an absurd amount of water is currently used by agriculture. They cry "water shortage" in the city, meanwhile the nearby tomato farmers use more...
[15:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:02] <exec> 08└─The price doesn't have to go up, water could be supplied for free - but it would only run out faster then. Friends of ours bought an olive farm in California - then they found out that they had to pay the water authority for water they pump from the ground, shocking! The next shock was that the bill...
[15:01:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 93 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:12] <exec> 08└─Nature is cruel. Animals eat other animals with no consideration given to pain and suffering.
[15:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:22] <exec> 08└─Dammit! I had a hunch I'd got that wrong but I just went with it. Touché Sir, touché!
[15:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:24] <exec> 08└─Oh, and to be clear, I understand we have the means to look at "pain receptors" in animals and notice physiological similarities to human pain receptors, etc. The question is not whether animals are capable of having a nervous impulses, but what it means for beings with no consciousness or limited c...
[15:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:26] <exec> 08└─That's down right psychopathic and cruel.
[15:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:28] <exec> 08└─And what about putting them in room temp water and bringing the water to a boil? Is that humane? Or is it worse because the pain would last longer? Freeze the lobster for an hour, then plunge them into boiling water? Cut the head off? I hope they have laid out some clear-cut (if only) rules for 'des...
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[15:01:30] <exec> 08└─What i heard was that babies feel the pain, but have no long-term, lasting memory of it, so hey, no problem. Circumcise them because, hey yeah they're crying like hell now, but in 5 minutes "Give me boob!", so what me worry?
[15:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:33] <exec> 08└─Later I must have rationalized away any empathy, because I eat lobster occasionally.
[15:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:35] <exec> 08└─It took me a bit to find this again, but they would even go so far as to report the mother as abusive if they objected: One mother I spoke with who realized anesthesia would not be used for her daughter’s surgery refused to sign the consent form. The operation was performed anyway and the mother w...
[15:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:37] <exec> 08└─Are you volunteering to be a test subject in this?
[15:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:39] <exec> 08└─Will we have to change the way we deal with muslims and other animals too?
[15:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:42] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, I have no hard guarantee that you are capable of suffering in a meaningful way, after all you might just be a bunch of spinal reflexes imitating consciousness. Does that mean that I can drop you in boiling water without feeling empathy?
[15:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:44] <exec> 08└─I often think that eating meat is wrong, but I still do it.
[15:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Tool Ripley Let It Remotely Disable Staff Laptops - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:54] <exec> 08└─What company doesn't have this ability, on *their* equipment? THEY would be the 'news flash'...
[15:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06200-Million-Year-Old Fossilized Butterfly and Moth Remains Found - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:02] <exec> 08└─I pity the interns/grad students whose job it was to dissolve rocks and view what's left, microscopically, in hopes of finding something. How many died from sheer boredom?
[15:02:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 552 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:22] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about the f'ed up warped world of economics where paying more wages actually results in less money for the worker, but... It just doesn't make sense to work for less than a living wage. If you can't survive on what they pay you how are you going to, er, survive? Why would a per...
[15:02:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03KiloByte [375] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 158 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:35] <exec> 08└─That means more low education people on government cheese, which means more Democrat voters, to keep the handouts flowing. Everything going according to plan.
[15:02:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:37] <exec> 08└─Hyperbole. Many people survive on far less, therefore it is clearly not impossible to survive. Impossible to survive in the style to which you believe you are entitled? Now THAT might well be true.
[15:02:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03canopic jug [3949] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 368 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:47] <exec> 08└─I remain skeptical of these claims, especially in light of the outrageous levels of executive "compensation". The complaint would have much more credibility if backed by some data showing that the board and the C-levels have tightened their belts a little. Otherwise this just smacks of the same insi...
[15:02:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 292 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:02:54] <exec> 08└─This is the standard blame displacement. Blame the employer for policy consequences. In any other market, we'd expect supply and demand to hold (for example, an increase in cost of employees resulting in a reduction in demand for such employees), but somehow that doesn't hold for employment.
[15:03:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 3031 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:01] <exec> 08└─Venezuela? What? You seem to be imagining a scenario in which the minimum wage just keeps uncontrollably climbing until it rivals wages for specialized jobs. Yet that is not what anyone actually wants. The $15 people are asking for is just a realignment of the minimum wage with the buying power it h...
[15:03:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Dogeball [814] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 521 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:03] <exec> 08└─The UK has a Conservative government. Conservative policies have caused the current crisis. In the context of the topic, Conservatives opposed introduction of the minimum wage. In 2010, two years after the global financial crisis hit, and after 13 years of a nominally socialist party in charge, heal...
[15:03:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 491 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:06] <exec> 08└─You speak of survival while advocating for policy that is roughly (not fully fleshed out) communist or socialist. That kind of nonsense killed over 100 million in the past 100 years. Let's take that last item for example, because right now is a special time: in the UK right now, all non-urgent opera...
[15:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:10] <exec> 08└─So let me get my math straight: An hour's work at minimum wage in Subway was just over enough to buy two footlong sandwiches sold at subway and prepared by said employee.
[15:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:12] <exec> 08└─The ratio of value produced and wages received must be seriously distorted.
[15:03:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03fliptop [1666] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:14] <exec> 08└─If you can't survive on what they pay you how are you going to, er, survive?
[15:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:03:16] <exec> 08└─I don't know anything about the f'ed up warped world of economics where paying more wages actually results in less money for the worker, but... It just doesn't make sense to work for less than a living wage.
[15:04:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 1012 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:04:02] <exec> 08└─Actually, throughout most of history, those who could afford medical "treatment" died much more quickly than the poors who had to just "walk it off". Leeches, and bloodletting were common. Probably killed Rene Descartes. Physicians used to have a coat, and the coat had two pockets. One pocket held...
[15:05:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Porn in Parliament: 24,000 Attempts at Accessing Sex Sites Over Six Months - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:05:33] <exec> 08└─This from the same country that refused to help hundreds of teenage girls being raped by muslims in rotherham for over a decade and still continues today. So not shocked.
[15:06:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] 02 - 06Filibuster Threat Means Trump Needs Senate Democrats to Pass Spying Bill - 419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:06:26] <exec> 08└─I should preface this by saying that I'm pretty cynical, but since 9/11, various law enforcement agencies have received lots of money, interesting training, fun "toys" to play with and an overall sense of secularly-divine purpose that they never had before. They don't want to lose any of that. So it...
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[16:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:01] <exec> 08└─Because millennials have never even heard of "drought". How the f do you pronounce the word "drought" anyway?? SoylentNews is old people
[16:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:02] <exec> 08└─The true capitalist market's answer is for some really rich entity to buy up most of the water and then sell it at a higher price. And even if more people die that way that's not your problem or cost.
[16:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:05] <exec> 08└─Perhaps it wasn't the best idea ever to build towns in places that cant sustain the population. But then we have people that insist on living in places that gets hit by natural disasters over and over and over again and still they move back.
[16:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:34] <exec> 08└─That is a point, how hard to you have to hit a lobster over the head for it to become braindead and not just merely stunned? Is it better to boil a braindamaged or in shock lobster then one that isn't? Perhaps they'll start selling certified lobster stunguns cause you just can't really be sure that...
[16:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:36] <exec> 08└─wah! i can see it already: hundreds of middle school german teachers are going to unleash the question about this onto thousands of unsuspecting school children and demand a essay ... another "terror" question that is going to hunt them poor children forever. it could most certainly be, that there a...
[16:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:38] <exec> 08└─You sir, are full of it. As soon as the lobster hits the boiling water, they die and do not move. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] Bonus points for horrific examples of dysfunctional parenting.
[16:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:40] <exec> 08└─Easy for a tiny landlocked country. Just how much lobster do they eat?
[16:02:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lx [1915] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 253 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:27] <exec> 08└─Just pay the increased price. If you can't afford to buy a ready made sandwich then make your own goddamn sandwich for 1/10th the price. It's not rocket science, although you're free to add rocket [google.nl] if you like. Probably better for you anyway.
[16:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:03] <exec> 08└─If you really think the poor are getting a good deal, why don't you go try it for a few years? The poor in the USA are fucked over and trodden on.
[16:03:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03pdfernhout [5984] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 2813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:56] <exec> 08└─That sadly may be true -- and in the book the CEO addresses the question of why Whole Foods (the store) sells stuff he would not eat (essentially, selling some of what customers want). But, "Whole Foods" is a more general term that just means "whole foods". It's confusing of course there is a store...
[16:05:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Microsoft Adds Signal Protocol End-to-End Encryption to Skype - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:05:52] <exec> 08└─By whom? I call bullshit. I'd enumerate the reasons, but why help such an obvious con revise itself to look more legit?
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[17:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:55] <exec> 08└─We survived nuclear seasons We survived nuclear seasons I can feel it, I can feel the fear I can feel it, inside of her soul Inside of the soul http://jango-raid.ml [jango-raid.ml]
[17:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:00:57] <exec> 08└─Dave Mustaine wrote the best ever song about nuclear war. It's called Into the Lungs of Hell/Set the World Afire.
[17:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 1360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:13] <exec> 08└─I'm no authoritairian, in fact I was a staunch libertarian much of my life. (Of course, by definition you can't enforce libertarianism, right?) As I've learned more about life, people, society, etc., I've realized that some people need restraint; IE: "government". The 1800s saw the rise of "Robber B...
[17:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:47] <exec> 08└─You may have to wait a while. All the sociopath trolls are in the article about raising the minimum wage, going into histrionics at the thought of "the poors" destroying the economy.
[17:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:48] <exec> 08└─Easy for a tiny landlocked country. Just how much lobster do they eat?
[17:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:50] <exec> 08└─A place where all the snowflakes can move and be safe from Trump and lobster boilers.
[17:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:53] <exec> 08└─Ummm...here in Denver I'm five times as far from salt water as Switzerland is, and we get plenty. Premium seafood is marketed fast-food style all over Europe; google Nordsee.
[17:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:55] <exec> 08└─Go find a board where your "kind" can all bond together in one happy right-wing brainwashing. We don't need any of that here. Mmmmmkay?
[17:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:57] <exec> 08└─The problem is that even if we do accept the idea that animals feel pain the way that we do, it's very hard to establish how much medication to give or when they're feeling pain as many animals behave like they're not in pain so as not to become targets for predators. Establishing how much pain huma...
[17:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:59] <exec> 08└─I would not allow my precious beliefs to be soiled by your grotty little life. So there.
[17:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber's Tool Ripley Let It Remotely Disable Staff Laptops - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:10] <exec> 08└─What company doesn't have this ability, on *their* equipment? THEY would be the 'news flash'...
[17:03:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:25] <exec> 08└─Live off your investments or inheritance. Move into the family Summer home. Get appointed to a board. This is simple stuff. The poor are just too lazy to be bothered doing it.
[17:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 1575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:27] <exec> 08└─If one Subway owner wants to whine and act out like a petulant child trying to say that the big bad government made him pay a couple dollars more in wages to his workers, in an extremely expensive city, instead of trying to make his business maximally efficient, I don't have any sympathy for him. Bu...
[17:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:29] <exec> 08└─They cut my wife's hours from 30 hrs/week to 12 hrs/week due to the minimum wage increase.
[17:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:31] <exec> 08└─I suppose educating people about responsibility is too late for your worldview? Not that you would be the one to do it. It just seems that your cause is against those giving the money and those collecting the debt, rather than insisting the people taking out the loans and blowing it on pills and wha...
[17:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 1371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:33] <exec> 08└─let's pay americans.. american wages! instead of trying to act like these people are outsourced to india and china with wages to match, we can pay them like they lived in america! christ if people have a problem with american prices, then that subway owner can go fucking move to china and make the s...
[17:03:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03drussell [2678] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:03:35] <exec> 08└─Am I the only one who thinks this is either an absurdly expensive sandwich or a disgustingly low wage?
[17:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:04] <exec> 08└─It's the Gates Foundation's responsibility to research the situation and make the most effective use of the money. But vaccinations are high-tech, toilets low-tech and therefore not as sexy. If it was a government program doing this, you'd be apoplectic about how this was going down. So why give the...
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[18:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:00:58] <exec> 08└─I've seen Donald Trump's nuclear button. It's not that big, and it doesn't function without viagra.
[18:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:00:59] <exec> 08└─Viagra only makes him taller.
[18:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:01] <exec> 08└─Is it like the Trump Tower?
[18:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:03] <exec> 08└─Idiots everywhere. If there is nuclear war, iodine is not what you have to worry about. What you have to worry about is 60 UV index, getting food and general conditions much worse than any "shit nations" of this world. Provided you do not live within 100km of any city with more than 50,000 people, i...
[18:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 2957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:06] <exec> 08└─Not too long after 9/11 we had an office that could see the port of Miami from about 5 miles away, and we played out a little thought experiment at lunch: what if a nuke came in on a cargo ship? If you happened to be looking out the window, the flash would likely be blinding - which would complicate...
[18:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:08] <exec> 08└─http://jango-raid.ml/?song_id=16381&t=113267131&a=Megadeth&s=Set_the_World_Afire [jango-raid.ml]
[18:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:10] <exec> 08└─It's a shame he became a born again cry baby but I certainly agree, fantastic guitarist. Countdown to Extinction was my first foray into to metal followed by purchasing Rust In Peace and Metallica's Master of Puppets. I hold that band very near and dear regardless of Dave's kooky turn around.
[18:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:26] <exec> 08└─How fucking afraid do you people have to be to expend this much effort to NOT see the elephant in the room? Cape Town is out of water because the GDP of the country has more than cut in half (13K to less than 5.5K) since the competent white rulers were bullycided by "the world community" into abando...
[18:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 871 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:28] <exec> 08└─While your comment is quite correct, we humans fail to understand and protect our environment properly. Cape Town is surrounded by rivers but the drought has dried many of them but then again many have been dammed for power or to divert water to other places, which makes the prolonged drought much w...
[18:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 631 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:30] <exec> 08└─Tsk, tsk. Talking about elephants while hiding your own. The GDP of SA was $3,445.7 U.S. dollars in 1994 (the year Mandela came to power) and today is $5,284.6 U.S. dollars. Unlike you, I give you a reference for the data: The World Bank. [opendataforafrica.org] Have you ever even visited SA? I know...
[18:01:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lx [1915] 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 255 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:57] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, I have no hard guarantee that you are capable of suffering in a meaningful way, after all you might just be a bunch of spinal reflexes imitating consciousness. Does that mean that I can drop you in boiling water without feeling empathy?
[18:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:10] <exec> 08└─Considering how people treat each other all the time, we definately are just plain animals.
[18:02:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:12] <exec> 08└─"The Swiss government also said it would no longer be permitted to transport live marine crustaceans like lobsters on ice or in icy water, ruling instead that they should “always be held in their natural environment”. The government order also aims to crack down on illegal puppy farms and import...
[18:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:14] <exec> 08└─Great apes? I guess that's why I'm not supposed to cook and eat my neighbor? Except, he's not so great an ape. His daughter, though - she's pretty great if you ask me! She doesn't even need cooking!
[18:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 476 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:16] <exec> 08└─Empathy. OK, I'm dropped into the boiling water. There is a flash of pain, then a warm fuzzy feeling, and then nothing. That's why they drop the lobster in the pot head first - his brain solidifies not-quite-instantly. Crack an egg into boiling water. Or, don't even crack it - just drop a raw egg in...
[18:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:18] <exec> 08└─That's one of the great things about Switzerland. They pretty much have things together, so they can focus on issues that other, less civilized, countries are a long way from. You don't like what the Swiss are doing? OK, don't go there. That's pretty easily resolved, isn't it. I don't agree with eve...
[18:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 1121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:20] <exec> 08└─If the lobster is trying to get out of the water, then you've fucked up. Badly. The water is supposed to be BOILING, not tepidly warm, not simmering. BOILING. You drop the lobster(s) one at a time into the water, HEAD FIRST. No, that little dude never makes the least effort to climb back out - he is...
[18:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:23] <exec> 08└─No, you! Go find your own board where all the snowflakes are protected from any possible offense. Facebook, maybe?
[18:02:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:51] <exec> 08└─Never before has a submission gone so totally wrong as this one. I have double spam modded, and I sincerely expect them to stick. Or at least be a foot-long.
[18:03:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03anubi [2828] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 3679 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:23] <exec> 08└─I also disagree with the moderation, and did what I could. I believe both you and the AC are right on. It's just inflationary... and discourages businesses from hiring, leaving the public to pick up yet more laid off people. Once people have lost their job, its all too likely they will be on the do...
[18:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:54] <exec> 08└─And, yet, Poland has the biggest wild forest in Europe, so... clearly they aren't overpopulating the place yet.
[18:03:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:56] <exec> 08└─Move further away from your job and commute for 4 hours each way. Cut down your food bill by eating cheap-ass food. Quit insurance (health, life, property, etc.). There are so many ways to cut down expenses.
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[19:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 1669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:02] <exec> 08└─North Korea has nukes but it's more for defense (look at what happened to Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc). NK don't have enough to successfully hit more than a few US cities. There'll still be plenty of safe places for survivors to go to if a US city is hit. The issue is whether Russia and China would be d...
[19:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:04] <exec> 08└─You're the idiot. North Korea doesn't have enough nukes and launch platforms to do anything like the "Day After" scenario on the USA. But if Trump goes crazy with his nukes (and drags Russia and China into a nuclear war) then yeah you might get the "Day After" scenario. In which case close to half o...
[19:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:06] <exec> 08└─Not too long after 9/11 we had an office that could see the port of Miami from about 5 miles away, and we played out a little thought experiment at lunch: what if a nuke came in on a cargo ship? If you happened to be looking out the window, the flash would likely be blinding - which would complicate...
[19:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:08] <exec> 08└─In fact, the heat from the initial flash would probably cook you.
[19:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:10] <exec> 08└─Iron absorbs neutrons, so you'd get a reduced flux, but if you have a nuclear explosion you will have a lot of neutrons and gamma rays. Terrorists probably couldn't make a proper nuclear bomb, but they could make a dirty bomb and from 5 miles away you'd be safe until the wind blew the contamination...
[19:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:13] <exec> 08└─Like any good Bond movie, who strikes first will be masked by multiple layers of subterfuge. I agree, Kim has no real motivation to do anything other than demonstrate he's capable, but... what's the reliability of his command and control structure? Anything less than six sigma, and I'm seriously con...
[19:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:15] <exec> 08└─The more you debate Trump supporters with logic, the more entrenched they become in their beliefs... it's a tough problem, I'm hoping that 4 years of experience with the result is going to get us a swing back the other way - it seems to be showing signs of working already: Alabama elected a Democrat...
[19:01:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 1360 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:30] <exec> 08└─I'm no authoritairian, in fact I was a staunch libertarian much of my life. (Of course, by definition you can't enforce libertarianism, right?) As I've learned more about life, people, society, etc., I've realized that some people need restraint; IE: "government". The 1800s saw the rise of "Robber B...
[19:01:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 822 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:32] <exec> 08└─How fucking afraid do you people have to be to expend this much effort to NOT see the elephant in the room? Cape Town is out of water because the GDP of the country has more than cut in half (13K to less than 5.5K) since the competent white rulers were bullycided by "the world community" into abando...
[19:01:35] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03crafoo [6639] 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:36] <exec> 08└─Tsk Tsk yourself. Cape Town's murder rate is 1.5x Detroit. Yes, it is indeed a shithole.
[19:01:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:38] <exec> 08└─Here in California they tell us constantly that we're in a drought and we have to do the right thing and use less water and accept skyrocketing water bills, while monstrous new housing developments are continuing to spring up all over the place. Drought, my fucking ass. I'll believe it when Californ...
[19:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:40] <exec> 08└─They genocided the people that kept the nation together because they were white. But hey, it's OK to kill white people these days, right? Now they are on the brink of self destruction--much deserved!
[19:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:42] <exec> 08└─DAYUMN! They need some gun control, don't they? GASP! They DO have gun control! Well, why isn't it working? Why, why WHY does gun control always fail? Capetown is like Detroit, or Chicago, or any other liberal US city! SHOCKING! I'M SHOCKED, I tell you! http://ewn.co.za
[19:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:30] <exec> 08└─This is like how people say that lobsters "scream" when you drop them in the pot, but that "screaming" is actually some mechanical/thermodynamic action of the temperature gradient on the lobster's body (escaping air or some shit) rather than the lobster's reaction to whatever "pain" it may be feelin...
[19:02:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03janrinok [52] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:31] <exec> 08└─I live in France. Although nowhere near as popular as they once were, snails are still bred for human consumption. Being on the coast, mussels are a common shellfish caught here, and they are frequently eaten. Likewise crabs, including very small crabs. Will the Swiss apply the same law to these and...
[19:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:33] <exec> 08└─Some of them may remember in other ways. It's just like those people with memory problems: http://www.fearexhibit.org [fearexhibit.org] In 1911, a French doctor named Edouard Claparede published his observations of an amnesiac patient. Despite repeated in...
[19:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 1069 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:35] <exec> 08└─One of the indicators used to determine "suffering" in other species is excessive grooming of injuries. Dogs, cats, horses, etc. will worry at injuries or amputations for prolonged periods after the damage is done. Insects on the other hand will just vary their stride until the damage is compensated...
[19:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:38] <exec> 08└─Who are we to judge what can or cannot "suffer"? We are barely grasping how the brain works even today. It is well within our power and therefore reasonable to inflict as little suffering as possible upon other creatures. Maybe someday we'll be able to prove that lobsters are in fact capable of comp...
[19:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:02:40] <exec> 08└─Don't you have a country to run, Don?
[19:04:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 536 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:13] <exec> 08└─Birth rates need to keep up, or the ethnicity goes extinct, lost forever. Birth rates are killed by working women, the ban on child labor, legalized divorce with child support and alimony, porn, video games, the expectation of expensive education, and generally the expectation of expensive toys and...
[19:04:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 1302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:14] <exec> 08└─We need cheap labor and we do really dumb things to prevent it. Like immigration, welfare, and minimum wage. How about instead of this, a tax/supplemental income plan with incentive. For Wages, Tax, and takeHome. If you work for $W/hour, the govt adds/takes $T GIVING $H T = (W-WageGoal) * FlatRat...
[19:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:16] <exec> 08└─Gotta love how RWNJ propaganda is now regularly published here but Aristarchus' LWNJ pieces are routinely suppressed. Yup, nothing to see here!
[19:04:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:19] <exec> 08└─A friend of mine recently tried out a temp agency and worked at a food plant for a few days. Apparently they jeep defibrillators on the lines because workers have hear attacks often enough! Now that is fucked up, driving "efficiency" to the point of causing hear attacks.
[19:04:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:21] <exec> 08└─after 13 years of a nominally socialist party in charge, health outcomes were among the best in the world, and public satisfaction in the NHS was at an all time high.
[19:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 996 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:23] <exec> 08└─Charlie Gard was a very sick baby in the UK. His parents were offered experimental treatment in the USA, but were not allowed to take their baby. You say "death panels" don't exist. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. A death panel by any other name is just as evil. Charlie Gard was kille...
[19:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:25] <exec> 08└─You are not of sound mind, but you think you are.
[19:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:27] <exec> 08└─There are numerous federal employees in blue states, both direct and contractors. By increasing the minimum wage, you force the federal government to supply more money. You raise your taxes, but your economy doesn't suffer the full result. People are allowed to deduct that from federal taxes. This f...
[19:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:30] <exec> 08└─The 14-year-old needs to job. It helps train him for a productive future. The 35-year-old single mother of two is already a failure. She shouldn't be taking jobs from children. I think "single mother" is part of the problem. A mother should be supported by her husband, the father of 100% of her chil...
[19:04:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:32] <exec> 08└─Maybe if we just had a 'war on poverty', we could solve this crisis!
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[20:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:53] <exec> 08└─I hate when the angiosperms start ejaculating on my car.
[20:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:00:55] <exec> 08└─I hate it more when they are ejaculating into my nose. Damn hayfever....
[20:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:19] <exec> 08└─My hope too, with the likes of the British Conservative Party, Brexit and Nigel Farage.
[20:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:20] <exec> 08└─Yes, it's a shame about that, but at least it has given him some relief from his personal troubles. He's one of my favourite guitarists and song writers too. Some of my favourite songs of all time were written by Dave Mustaine and I love hearing him play the guitar live.
[20:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:45] <exec> 08└─All I want for Christmas is a white genocide.
[20:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:39] <exec> 08└─If boiling them live is easier or makes the food taste better, I'd do it. The same goes for skinning them alive, or beating them to death, or whatever. Is it easy? Does it taste good? Those are the only concerns. If I wasn't grossed out by raw meat, eating right out of the side of a living animal wo...
[20:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:41] <exec> 08└─Mock all you want, but when the bodies hit the floor you'll be sorry for the minimum wage hike!!@!
[20:04:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 0, Troll) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:24] <exec> 08└─There isn't a simple relationship between cost and demand for anything, least of all the labor you need to run your business. There is a relationship, but it's far from simple. Studies of minimum wage changes over several decades lean toward minor increases having negligible or slightly positive eff...
[20:04:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:26] <exec> 08└─Calling empirical evidence "RWNJ propaganda" tells me you are in fact a LWNJ yourself.
[20:04:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:28] <exec> 08└─Could be, how so?
[20:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 445 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:04:30] <exec> 08└─This is why I want the south to succeed. Whole gulf coast. So they will be forced to live this bullshit without taxes from the blue areas. The south is a hidden welfare state. And the idiots who support it dumb enough to fall year after year for changing Fox News propaganda. The south is a cancer. L...
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[20:06:01] <exec> 08└─They also appeared to have smoked the Devil's Weed as well as using it for fibre. Xenophon's greeks were dismissive of related groups with similar habits. The opinion that barbarians smoke pot while civilized people get pissed goes back at least 3,200 years. One of these days I'm going to get a Scyt...
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[21:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:54] <exec> 08└─Aren't the flowering plants the ones that reproduce sexually? There are advantages to sexual reproduction in letting beneficial genes spread through the population and combining with other such.
[21:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:56] <exec> 08└─God did it. Next question.
[21:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:00:58] <exec> 08└─Why did he wait that long before doing it?
[21:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:22] <exec> 08└─There's likely to be no issue of that if Kim strikes first. China has already made it quite clear that North Korea is on their own if they strike first, China will only get involved if the USA hits NK first
[21:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:24] <exec> 08└─He was about 30 miles away with his back to it and it was more than uncomfortably warm.
[21:02:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 1121 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:34] <exec> 08└─If the lobster is trying to get out of the water, then you've fucked up. Badly. The water is supposed to be BOILING, not tepidly warm, not simmering. BOILING. You drop the lobster(s) one at a time into the water, HEAD FIRST. No, that little dude never makes the least effort to climb back out - he is...
[21:02:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:45] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, you use words like "suffer" here for animals. Is there not some sort of personification happening here?
[21:02:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:02:46] <exec> 08└─Nature is cruel. Animals eat other animals with no consideration given to pain and suffering.
[21:03:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 602 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:03:58] <exec> 08└─Let's say that we don't increase minimum wage, BUT we also decide that we are not going to subsidize low paying employers through welfare, food stamps, etc. How many $5 footlongs do you suppose a Subway can sell in Seattle if it is staffed with hepatitis infected homeless people who haven't showered...
[21:04:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:35] <exec> 08└─To those who didn't get parent's joke: said far-right government not only converted said wild forest to a commercial forest (in all but law), but even made the minister of environment do so.
[21:04:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 891 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:36] <exec> 08└─You are assuming some motives that just aren't there. It's not "I really want to screw her over, but I have no excuse... oh, now I have an excuse!" with somebody trying to run a business. No excuse is needed, but it is always there: The business is not a charity and has no desire to pay anything to...
[21:04:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:04:39] <exec> 08└─said far-right government not only converted said wild forest to a commercial forest (in all but law), but even made the minister of environment do so.
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[22:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:52] <exec> 08└─Clearly Ecuador needs a larger diplomatic bag.
[22:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:53] <exec> 08└─Or maybe just trump up a charge against a few British tourists in Ecuador.
[22:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:55] <exec> 08└─We all know justice will have nothing to do with it.
[22:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:00:57] <exec> 08└─"Ecuador knows that the way to resolve this issue is for Julian Assange to leave the embassy to face justice."
[22:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:00] <exec> 08└─"Since we can't go into the Ecuador embassy to get him without a major diplomatic incident, we're instead putting him under unlawful house arrest." (Darn lack of editing capabilities.)
[22:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:11] <exec> 08└─As I say often, the hypothetical eternal god has no time in which to wait, else it is not supernatural. consider a host, hosting a completely insulated and perfectly emulated VM. The VM has cpu time but it has meaning only inside the VM, outside all it matters is the host speed. It could be lower th...
[22:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:13] <exec> 08└─In other words, the flowering plants did get their advantage through massive code refactoring.
[22:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:15] <exec> 08└─"Since Darwin’s time, biologists pursuing the answer to that abominable mystery have sought to explain how the flowering plants could possibly have achieved this level of dominance in such a relatively short time." Perhaps the strategic advantage of flowers is that it draws insects which can crawl...
[22:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:42] <exec> 08└─Iron Maiden's "Two Minutes to Midnight" and Metallica's "Fight Fire with Fire" are also classics.
[22:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:43] <exec> 08└─Maybe its because I'm in Australia but I'm not fearing a nuclear winter. This is a couple of imbeciles exchanging moronic banter. News cycle done, gone and we're onto the next thing like "shithole" nations. Whoever is paying real money for some chemical that won't do heaps needs to get out more.
[22:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:46] <exec> 08└─but they could make a dirty bomb and from 5 miles away you'd be safe until the wind blew the contamination over.
[22:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:48] <exec> 08└─You're quite the professor today.
[22:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 2388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:50] <exec> 08└─There's three possible scenarios here: 1: A smuggled weapon from a major power. This could be strong or relatively weak, and you can't reasonably plan for which. 2: Something put together by an inexperienced weaponeer. This is likely to fail, but if it works it's likely to be larger than the Hiroshi...
[22:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:52] <exec> 08└─Note: A comment on the article claims that Nukepills is massively overcharging for the substance.
[22:02:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:17] <exec> 08└─Put frozen water in cocktail, drink. Duh.
[22:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:18] <exec> 08└─Meh! Global Warming fixes that frozen water problem.
[22:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:21] <exec> 08└─You're going with Tomatoes as the problem? Seriously? Water all around you. Solar and wind everywhere you look. Three Nuclear Power plants. Seems to me desalination or RO water would be an obvious choice in Florida and South Africa.
[22:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:23] <exec> 08└─Global Warming fixes that frozen water
[22:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:02:25] <exec> 08└─not flushing the toilets until absolutely necessary for example, something that would be found disgusting in America.
[22:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:23] <exec> 08└─Very well put.
[22:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:24] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, you use words like "suffer" here for animals. Is there not some sort of personification happening here? You speak of "empathizing" with animals. Do we have any idea what it is like to be an animal, to "feel" as an animal does?
[22:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Uber's Tool Ripley Let It Remotely Disable Staff Laptops - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:03:36] <exec> 08└─I never seem to read any good news about this dodgy company. I guess this is to mitigate risk of authorities finding they are operating as a transport company, underpaying people and tracking users when they're not using the service. Oh, and I don't buy the argument that a lot of other companies use...
[22:05:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02 - 06What Should Apple and Other Manufacturers Do About Gadget Addiction Among Youth? - 79 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:05:45] <exec> 08└─I remember when kids could play outside without the neighbors calling the cops.
[22:06:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bill Gates Looks to Immunotherapy to Help Control All Infectious Diseases - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:06:09] <exec> 08└─CDC has now banned the term "evidence-bassed medicine",
[22:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06‘What the hell is going on?’ Polio Cases are Vanishing in Pakistan, Yet the Virus Won't go Away - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:49] <exec> 08└─I think you are overestimating Trump's ability. After step one he would be confused by being presented with a briefcase instead of a TV showing a football game.
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[23:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:59] <exec> 08└─So no change then really, it's not like he is getting out of there anytime soon. Still sleeping his days away on his air-mattress. I was thinking that Ecuador would eventually give him a nudge out the door eventually. Guess not. Since Australia allows for dual-citizenship these days he didn't even h...
[23:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:01] <exec> 08└─Are they going to make him a shemale?!
[23:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:03] <exec> 08└─They should. It's impossible for women to be convicted of sexual assault. Sweden's whole bullshit cases would fall apart instantly. It would be his "guaranteed clemency" card.
[23:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ecuador Grants Citizenship to Julian Assange - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:05] <exec> 08└─Anger the rulers and you will be punished. Those ruling us do not work in concepts such as justice. Raw power, expression of that power where it suits them, and complete obedience to that power from the populace. Julian challenged them and therefore he will be punished. That's the start and end of i...
[23:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With ‘Downsized’ DNA, Flowering Plants Took Over The World - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:20] <exec> 08└─Not such a good analogy, since refactoring suggests an architecture or plan for the "code", which isn't the case. Although I guess Monte Carlo Refactoring might make some paperback sales to middle management.
[23:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:54] <exec> 08└─It's used to treat a side effect of radiation treatment for cancer A defense engineer told me the fed stockpiled hundreds of millions of doses
[23:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:55] <exec> 08└─Once had a discussion with some engineers about how to fuck over a city with hard mode: minimal loss of life and with no "magical" weapons like satellite EMP. Garden-variety truck bombs + all freeway overpasses + coordinated detonation at 2 or 3 a.m. == taking out the knees of the city's economy for...
[23:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Fears of Nuclear War Lead to Increased Sales of Potassium Iodide - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:57] <exec> 08└─Just steal Grampa's beta-blockers -- they block beta radiation and are pretty effective against alpha radiation as well.
[23:02:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:27] <exec> 08└─The GDP of SA was $3,445.7 U.S. dollars in 1994 (the year Mandela came to power) and today is $5,284.6 U.S. dollars.
[23:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 2022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:29] <exec> 08└─Inland tomatoes seriously consume more water from the local aquifer (the same one that supplies household drinking water) than the entire coastal city of Sarasota, in Sarasota County alone. Similar situations exist for ag-use everywhere in the state. When a cold-snap comes, 1000hp engines pump water...
[23:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:31] <exec> 08└─There is that, it's not insignificant. Still lots of Towns or cities probably did fine when they where smaller. Cape Town is now around 3.5-4.0M or something like that? It might have grown to large to sustain itself from the surrounding area. They might not have what it takes to become or be a real...
[23:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:33] <exec> 08└─That was a good joke. Sorry you got downmodded but sometimes SN is like that. You can own and carry a gun in SA. The main difference is that you must get a permit and getting the permit entails a “competency test” (i.e. you know how to handle a weapon safely), having no Police record and getting...
[23:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will Taps Run Dry? - 1160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:02:35] <exec> 08└─The elephant is in the room because the limp-dick white hunter had to prove his manliness by shooting the elephant with a high powered rifle and then stuffed it's head and mount it on the wall. If the "competent" white rulers hadn't come to play colonial wanna-be royals, the elephant wouldn't be in...
[23:03:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:35] <exec> 08└─The Swiss are weak and neutered. Or was that neutral? Either way, no fight in them. It's just a bug.
[23:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:37] <exec> 08└─The question is not whether animals are capable of having a nervous impulses, but what it means for beings with no consciousness or limited consciousness of whatever to "feel pain," "experience suffering,"
[23:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:39] <exec> 08└─If it stops the lobster from squealing that's all you need from the restaurant, right? Have you reduced the lobster's pain, or merely prevented it from squealing? Most people do not scream from a stun gun shock (because they are incapacitated) - but they report it to be very painful. Still, you can...
[23:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:41] <exec> 08└─I'm happy to hear they have fixed their more pressing problems. They certainly had a sorted history to fix, for example: The Nobel peace prize exists to rebrand the reputation of Mr Nobel from an inventor of arms. Until recently, their banking system was the go to place for laundering and hiding ill...
[23:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:44] <exec> 08└─Nearly frozen lobster. Truly fresh Lobsters and crabs do generally do move about for a second or three.
[23:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:46] <exec> 08└─Bullshit with that temperature gradient nonsense, Next time you cook one drop it in slowly tail first. You'l change your mind in one go.
[23:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:48] <exec> 08└─Make it global; nothing to be afraid of when there's a global government that can tell everybody to do. Think of the children; think of the lobsters. What could possibly go wrong?
[23:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:50] <exec> 08└─http://jango-raid.ml/?song_id=181101&t=113281426&a=Drowning_Pool&s=Bodies [jango-raid.ml]
[23:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:52] <exec> 08└─I prefer human meat. Yum.
[23:03:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Switzerland Bans Lobster Boiling Without Stunning or Killing Them - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:03:55] <exec> 08└─Why in the hell would you want to eat bugs when you can eat human meat?
[23:04:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03aliks [357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber's Tool Ripley Let It Remotely Disable Staff Laptops - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:06] <exec> 08└─You think ordinary taxi drivers are honest???? There may be a few honest ones, but I always seem to meet the ripoff artists , or the drivers who take every opportunity to boost the fare. Gimme Lyft any day.
[23:04:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06200-Million-Year-Old Fossilized Butterfly and Moth Remains Found - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:04:16] <exec> 08└─Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
[23:05:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03drussell [2678] 02 - 06Seattle's Minimum Wage Killed The 'Five-Dollar Footlong' - 90 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:05:26] <exec> 08└─They cut my wife's hours from 30 hrs/week to 12 hrs/week due to the minimum wage increase.
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