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[00:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 831 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:39] <exec> 08└─Society is going to shift away from passive content. At best, society will give up consuming fake people's stories, and start making their own by living; at worst, people will become absorbed in immersive interactive content. My reasoning is that there are only so many stories; the entertainment ind...
[00:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:41] <exec> 08└─That's not what's gonna kill Netflix short-term. The end of Net neutrality, bringing low-low caps on anything not rubber-stamped by Comcast or ATT will, at least in the US. Netflix will have to raise their prices to pay off the ISPs, until they're just one more cable-like choice...
[00:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:43] <exec> 08└─Hahahaha!!! That's pretty funny. Seriously, you are really deluded. Have you not noticed how popular reality TV has been for the last 10-15 years? No, society is not going to become like ST:TNG where people no longer sit around watching mindless garbage like Honey Boo Boo and The Kardashians, and in...
[00:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:45] <exec> 08└─It will free people to search for new ways to pass data around. Email, wikipedia reading, txt messaging, etc., doesn't need 10 Gbps down/up links, or even wired last-mile networking.
[00:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:47] <exec> 08└─All of that eye-popping revenue is flowing out of third-world countries, like China. They're like the small children of the civilization, stumbling upon consumer entertainment for the first time, and finding it magically absorbing. Eventually, their societies too will mature, and that's when the shi...
[00:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:50] <exec> 08└─Passive VR content: the ultimate laziness from a consumer standpoint (although not a creator standpoint). Taking full advantage of 360 degrees requires a new standard in cinematography and direction. Multiple things may be happening at once within "the frame". Subtle details add to the illusion or d...
[00:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:52] <exec> 08└─You have people out there paying for Netflix, putting something on, and then working on a computer or falling asleep. Netflix gets their cut all the same. They can even measure and manage this behavior [soylentnews.org]. Netflix must have more than 3 decades left in them because they are doing just...
[00:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1855 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:55] <exec> 08└─I don't think so. People are slowly but steadily leaving cable TV as the oldest generation dies out, and younger generations don't see the value in something where they can't skip the commercials (without a DVR), can't pick what to watch when, it has an utterly archaic UI, etc. But people are showin...
[00:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:57] <exec> 08└─I listen to music.
[00:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:00] <exec> 08└─Hollywood refers to its insatiable demand for new scripts as The Monster. I expect that's why there are so many remakes.
[00:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:02] <exec> 08└─There's also avian carriers
[00:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:04] <exec> 08└─Netflix's per-subscriber bandwidth costs are lessening over time. Bandwidth is still getting cheaper, equipment gets better although you have to buy it, and new video standards [wikipedia.org] lower the bitrate.
[00:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:06] <exec> 08└─The 1960s hippies represented the first attempt, but their lifestyle was too unproductive to catch on. In the coming years, we'll see first world societies' tear down the War on Drugs, and people will begin experimenting once again with their states of consciousness, especially by using psychedelics...
[00:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:09] <exec> 08└─Instead say "Developing Nation".
[00:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:11] <exec> 08└─None of which matters if the big ISPs want you dead and throttle you, with the FCC's blessing. Anticompetitive practices are not delusions, conspiracies or speculation, but proven historical facts.
[00:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:14] <exec> 08└─I've only seen one. It was like something out of dungeons and dragons. 3-D works well if it is used subtly, but what we actually find is the one I saw, in which a rope is lowered down a whole, but appears to be horizontally appearing out of the screen then through my forehead. I have a 3D pr0n magaz...
[00:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:16] <exec> 08└─Nah, "Third World" is the right term to use. It means "backward," and that ought to sting. If it doesn't sting, then they have no reason to strive to better themselves. After all being poor and backward because they cannot curb their corruption or cooperate long enough to build their country up has...
[00:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:18] <exec> 08└─Why do you think Hollywood is such a soulless cesspool of former human beings? They were binge watching fake people's stories before Netflix made it mainstream; for them, there's nothing new to experience, and so they seek out unspeakable debauchery as do the centuries-old vampires. What do you thin...
[00:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:40] <exec> 08└─Well, if the wildfires get any worse (either "natural"/climate change/AGW/not-AGW or deliberate man-made fires https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] ) then, eventually, all the pork in (at least) California will be pre-s...
[00:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:42] <exec> 08└─I live straight up your asshole. Dig in.
[00:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 1103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:14] <exec> 08└─Well, I kind of feel like pulling your chain, so let me suggest a (check all that apply) [x] Authoritarian [ ] Libertarian [ ] Technological [ ] Spiritual solution. (Anybody other than me miss those form posts?) I say we take everybody diagnosed with obesity and force them to smoke weed once per day...
[00:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:16] <exec> 08└─It doesn't matter how much you don't like it; that's the way this Universe is. Work with it, or forever be dismayed.
[00:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:18] <exec> 08└─It's a terrible idea to give men monopoly over anything. That's why even contract enforcement should be considered just another service in the market, where anybody can compete; such competition is how members of society cooperate to find the best implementation of any service, and it's the only rob...
[00:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:20] <exec> 08└─Work with it, or forever be dismayed.
[00:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:22] <exec> 08└─If I've learned anything from decades of Civilization, the more food that is available the faster your colony will grow. Fat people tend to have bigger boobs (I pity the fat chick with no titties), hence the breast cancer cells can feast and grow fat faster. / This is probably the most politically i...
[00:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:12:00] <exec> 08└─Can't agree more. I have it set up on all the domains I own - and guess what, they don't expire. I get a nice little email telling me when it is going to renew in the near future, then another when it does.
[00:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:12:55] <exec> 08└─I am the main offender.
[00:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FDA Approves New Shingles Vaccine for Adults - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:50] <exec> 08└─I had shingles in my early 20s and it wasn't that bad. Worst thing was quarantining myself from work and uni. Made me realise I was working too hard and compromising my immune system. Its not that common and I wouldn't be thinking about a vaccine. Just more money for big pharma.
[00:15:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:15:23] <exec> 08└─Emacs with evil mode is tolerable or perhaps Spacemacs is OK. But I prefer vim, actually neovim. Other editors have a strange feature of littering my text files with extraneous "j's k's f's and w's"
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[01:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:13] <exec> 08└─Try again.
[01:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:14] <exec> 08└─Third world does not mean ‘backwards’. I’m sure you are old enough to remember when there was the West (1st world), the Commies (2nd world) and yes, the third world, which were all those countries not in the “west” or “commies”.
[01:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:16] <exec> 08└─3D is not the same as 360°/VR. 3D is not dead [wikipedia.org] (scroll to 2017) but it is basically used as a gimmick and is technically inferior to VR.
[01:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:18] <exec> 08└─As apparently the only one here willing to admit they watch Netflix, I guess I'll add my two cents: No. They need to stop dropping non-original content. Their original content can be great (see Stranger Things), but I subscribe for mostly non-original content. I don't mind waiting a year for the con...
[01:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:21] <exec> 08└─Maybe. I doubt that much will happen other than getting DMT, LSD, et al. onto Schedule II down from Schedule I. Can people have visceral spirtual experiences when using psychedelics while Netflix/mindless entertainment is playing in the same room? Or does Netflix make it an invalid and "unproductive...
[01:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:23] <exec> 08└─I love Netflix, except for how small their library is. When something new comes out that I find I like I'll binge the whole series, then there's nothing else worth watching until something else good comes out.
[01:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:25] <exec> 08└─Clearly, if it ain't "First World", then it's backwards.
[01:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:27] <exec> 08└─Yep, same here. If the stuff I want to watch was not being removed in a regular basis, then I'd be much happier (my kids would also like to know why suddenly entire seasons of their cartoons disappear, leaving me trying to explain a 3 and a 5 year old that I'm not the one responsible for this :D). Y...
[01:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:48] <exec> 08└─Or watermelon with pit.
[01:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:27] <exec> 08└─Now I have to rethink everything.
[01:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:28] <exec> 08└─Treat the people who have actual chemical imbalances.
[01:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:30] <exec> 08└─I never ever expected this to be rated insightful.....
[01:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 1935 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:10] <exec> 08└─I've done my fair share of LOLing about giant corporations failing to renew a domain name. But you know what? I'm done with that. This is one of those things where we know full well that humans are fallible and there should be far more robust mechanisms built right into the domain registration syste...
[01:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:11] <exec> 08└─The company I worked for for years forgot to renew the patent on their highest selling product.
[01:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:07] <exec> 08└─I was trying to be polite!
[01:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Mating With Neanderthals Reintroduced "Lost" DNA Into Modern Humans - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:16:05] <exec> 08└─Neandertal is a valid spelling for the valley, but you are the first I've ever heard to assert it was a valid spelling for the ancient hominid.
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[02:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03anotherblackhat [4722] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:07] <exec> 08└─Society is going to shift away from passive content.
[02:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:09] <exec> 08└─The dropping of original content is in many cases not even Netflix's fault either. A lot of the time this happens because the bastards they license the content from get too greedy, and Netflix can't afford to keep the license.
[02:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:31] <exec> 08└─I don't think they invented anything. Ever heard of wild boar? It's a nice strong, game-y tasting, lean pig, and I believe it already does very well in cold weather. Bonus: No mucking about with CRISPR and all the non-GMO backlash that will result.
[02:10:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 866 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:39] <exec> 08└─The only problem is that healthy people are increasingly being forced to fund the deformed existence of obese people. You want people to slim down? Well, start charging fat people a lot more money for their health care (e.g., for their insurance). That's the way it used to be, and that's the way it...
[02:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:12] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, I down-voted it.
[02:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 2522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:14] <exec> 08└─Well, let me ask you this. Your conjecture is that warlords will not evolve from a tragedy-of-the-commons situation out of a free market of contract enforcement services. My conjecture is that they will. I'd argue I have a few millennia of evidence of the behavior of man, the tribal animal he is, bu...
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[02:11:16] <exec> 08└─Some hormonal problem might result in a feeling of extreme hunger even when the body doesn't need the food. Or, maybe, such a problem results in energy being stored in fat despite the fact that the rest of the body needs the energy for normal metabolism, thereby requiring unusually high food intake...
[02:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 1378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:18] <exec> 08└─I'd say it's not quite as acute as nicotine withdrawal, but it's much more persistent, if that makes sense. To compound that, an unhealthy body is in constantly calorie conservation mode. Cortisol does that I believe. Cannabis can counteract that. However, a new diet does take some getting used to....
[02:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03terrab0t [4674] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:12:00] <exec> 08└─This problem has been solved. The expiry date is irrelevant because any decent registrar today auto‐renews for you.
[02:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:12:57] <exec> 08└─Stone gates from abandoned Minecraft homesteads. No one even remembers what version we're in, or when the line between player and mob became blurry.
[02:13:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Receives 238 Proposals for HQ2, Including Multi-Billion Dollar Incentive Offers - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:30] <exec> 08└─Like the $100+ cellphone and cable bills?
[02:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Receives 238 Proposals for HQ2, Including Multi-Billion Dollar Incentive Offers - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:31] <exec> 08└─> ..so when I sell my house to get out of this shithole I will make some good money. The way the "tax cut" is looking lately, you will be taxed on the capital gains you make on your house sale...and will net next-to-nothing beyond your basis (original price).
[02:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:29] <exec> 08└─VI VI VI the editor of the beast
[02:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:31] <exec> 08└─What mode I am in? Normal mode, of course. I stay in normal mode all the time. You enter insert mode to to type text, then immediately hit ESC to go back to normal mode. One does not stay in insert mode.
[02:15:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:33] <exec> 08└─About a year after Microsoft started using that stupid "ribbon" in Office, I first encountered it on a project I was working on. After editing the document a bit, I wanted to... print it. With the ribbon, I couldn't actually figure it out, so I asked the sysadmin how to print it. He admitted he didn...
[02:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:35] <exec> 08└─While this is obviously a joke, try running vimtutor, then follow the tutorial. You would be surprised how much you learn, even if you have been using vi awhile.
[02:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:15:37] <exec> 08└─CLion from https://www.jetbrains.com [jetbrains.com] if your employer have the $ for it or if you feel your increase of productivity pays for it... I use to hate Jetbrains IDEs but since they made them less opinionated on the layout you should be using (it changed gradually over a few years)...
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[03:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:38] <exec> 08└─In billions of years, one of these places will be home to some civilization. You think they'll be cuttings bits of flesh from their children's sexual organs, too?
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[03:09:39] <exec> 08└─You think they'll be cuttings bits of flesh from their children's sexual organs, too?
[03:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:42] <exec> 08└─Why would a real civilization even use sex? Why would they have sexual organs? Why do you backward earthlings presume that a real civilization would resemble your own lack of culture?
[03:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:44] <exec> 08└─Are these planets, or just a bunch of comets accreted?
[03:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:46] <exec> 08└─Are these planets, or just a bunch of comets accreted?
[03:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:48] <exec> 08└─Looks like yet another job for JWST.
[03:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:51] <exec> 08└─Are these planets, or just a bunch of comets accreted?
[03:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:53] <exec> 08└─No, they aren't planets. Latest planet definition involve "cleaned its orbit of debris" - since there is still a ring, they aren't planets by this definition.
[03:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:55] <exec> 08└─I vaguely recall natives of mega-earths depicted in early science fiction as coming from worlds like this and being incredibly strong, bear-like beings adapted to resisting the heavy gravity there. In retrospect, I rather suspect a different sort of adaption instead. More like a koala bear than a gr...
[03:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:57] <exec> 08└─A stronger gravity favors Thylarctos plummetus
[03:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:59] <exec> 08└─There are super-Earths with a surface gravity of far less than 2g despite having several times Earth's mass: https://www.psychologytoday.com [psychologytoday.com] If these comet ring planets are low in ice, they could have a higher...
[03:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:07] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why anyone bothers driving a car in Singapore. The public transport is clean, regular and efficient. Also, it's a tiny island. Unless you're going to Malaysia, there's nowhere in particular to drive.
[03:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:43] <exec> 08└─Clearly, the current "First World" is going backwards.
[03:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:44] <exec> 08└─There. Settled.
[03:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:47] <exec> 08└─Take your net neutrality shilling elsewhere. Netflix made peace with big cable years ago, which is why they no longer care about the issue. They colocate "Netflix in a box" appliances in all the ISP central offices. Cable boxes are building in Netflix support so you don't even need a third party dev...
[03:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:53] <exec> 08└─Welcome to the down side of using ToR. Form keys are tied to your hashed ip address. When it changes, you have to get another.
[03:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:55] <exec> 08└─...as usual the cause of the symptoms (obesity) are a much more complicated affair that actually do wander into actual chemical imbalances / addiction.
[03:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:57] <exec> 08└─It's trash.
[03:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:59] <exec> 08└─We eagerly await your pull requests.
[03:13:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06Amazon Receives 238 Proposals for HQ2, Including Multi-Billion Dollar Incentive Offers - 1100 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:13:52] <exec> 08└─Unemployment rates in each of the states under discussion: Hawaii: 2.5% Montana: 3.9% Wyoming: 4.0% North Dakota: 2.4% South Dakota: 3.4% Vermont: 2.9% Arkansas: 3.5% Now, that's not industry-specific numbers, but the claim that there are "no jobs" in these states seems to be questionable when they'...
[03:16:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Post-Nihilist [5672] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:12] <exec> 08└─Do you know of a good primer on Structural Regular Expressions? That sounds like something a computer scientist should learn..... Presently the finest regex engine I know of is the one in .Net , i wish grep could do that https://docs.microsoft.com
[03:16:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:14] <exec> 08└─Well, there are like two or three things it's just faster to do with a mouse. Which is why I use gvim. All the vim-y goodness with a tiny bit of added utility.
[03:16:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:16] <exec> 08└─http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/structural_regexps/ [cat-v.org]
[03:16:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:18] <exec> 08└─Das racis, you Esoteriaphobe!
[03:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03t-3 [4907] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:16:21] <exec> 08└─What the AC linked will get you started, but for me none of it really 'clicked' until I started using them and no longer had to pull up documentation to write stuff that would have had me scratching me head staring at manpages and googling with sed or grep or vim. Being able to parse a complex expre...
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[04:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:00] <exec> 08└─Even 2g would certainly be enough to require significant adaption, and as you note, these are clearly situated to go beyond that. "Although they are probably too cold for life." On the surface perhaps, but if they have molten cores and vulcanism then there should be plenty of opportunities for life...
[04:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:01] <exec> 08└─On the surface perhaps, but if they have molten cores and vulcanism then there should be plenty of opportunities for life beneath.
[04:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:03] <exec> 08└─Life tends to follow the easiest path to survival, and photosynthesis is easier here, so that's what it does. But if it became impossible overnight life would continue. Also it stands to reason that geothermal energy would be considerably greater on a planet as under discussion - earth-like in compo...
[04:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03qzm [3260] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:12] <exec> 08└─Because cars are a large status symbol, and showing that you can afford to pay the huge duties (especially for large engine European models) is a strong status symbol indeed. On the flip side, as some of that duty can be regained when the cars are re-exported, it is a good source of high spec 2nd ha...
[04:12:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 4922 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:12:01] <exec> 08└─The "Tragedy of the Commons" results from a lack of control over a resource. This outcome implies the need for some means by which to limit usage of said resource, and thus implies some kind of ownership over said resource, of which there are 2 kinds: Authoritarian (government) and Libertarian (prop...
[04:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:13:40] <exec> 08└─I do that because Slashdot did that. Often they used the hyperlink as a device to draw the eye to a particular phrase or sentence in the excerpt to highlight the topic or emphasize something else.
[04:15:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stephen Hawking's PhD Thesis Made Available Online by Cambridge University - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:15:00] <exec> 08└─(or weev)
[04:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 1073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:16:22] <exec> 08└─As a former Vim user, I am well aware of how efficient Vim is at shifting around characters, but text editing is menial labor. Standing at a higher level, it's cute how Vim users see themselves as superior to Notepad users. Look at how efficiently I can move these characters around! The Emacs revela...
[04:18:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ncc74656 [4917] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Newegg Is Being Sued for Allegedly Engaging in Massive Fraud - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:18:15] <exec> 08└─Half their items are now shady Chinese third-party sellers and the UI is set up to make it hard to tell whether you are buying from Newegg or the third party Chinese seller.
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[05:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:35] <exec> 08└─Tax records. Cultural artifacts come in second iirc. TFA says they deciphered a little bit of one tablet only and found a reference to a temple of Gula, who was a goddess of healing primarily. But in what context? We don't know. Might be the temple library, but it might be a record of how many sheep...
[05:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:37] <exec> 08└─Researchers have done much work deciphering cuneiform gibber-jabber, not only assyrian/akkadian/babylonian ones but also even earlier Sumerian ones (3kBC), so I assume these guys have some decent lead on how to decipher the new finding. It will probably go something like this: I had a rash today. I...
[05:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:39] <exec> 08└─likely just records of amounts owning to a local ruler. and/or poker winnings.
[05:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:59] <exec> 08└─It might well be less likely for intelligent life to evolve on such a planet, but I am not convinced that's necessarily true
[05:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:09] <exec> 08└─Game-y taste? Ew. Non-GMO backlash just lets me know who the idiots are.
[05:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:10] <exec> 08└─When you are up to your ass in GMO pigs[alligators], then we'll see who is the idiot.
[05:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03dwilson [2599] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:00] <exec> 08└─Most of the time you're just a fatass who needs to do more of the hard, physical work the human body has evolved to do.
[05:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:13:40] <exec> 08└─FFS so volunteer your time on the back-end to capture the story source separately in the submission form, store it in the DB, and spit it out on the home page as, "From [story source]:" instead of "[submitter] writes:"
[05:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:16:22] <exec> 08└─Reminds me of this gem pertinent to the whole thread actually https://www.gnu.org [gnu.org]
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[06:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:36] <exec> 08└─It turns out that it's pretty hard to be a maintainer. People just aren't good at leading, or organizing themselves well enough to respond appropriately. A lot of times, egos really get in the way. The best maintainers are people who make suggestions that lead would-be contributors towards an intend...
[06:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:38] <exec> 08└─In summary, be polite and people will help you. Who would have known? (Thanks mom!)
[06:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:40] <exec> 08└─Your comment is out of context because TFA is about asking for help, not about trying to offer help. You fail at reading comprehension, you are a retard, and your attempted contribution to the discussion is unwelcome. Fuck off.
[06:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:42] <exec> 08└─I keep thinking I ought to get into some open-source project. I'm a programmer, I'd like to think a good one. Just as an example, a couple of weekends ago I got bored, so I implemented a (very simple) digital currency, just for fun. Not a huge project, but not bad for a weekend's work. The question...
[06:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:44] <exec> 08└─Open Source software is about scratching your own itches; you're asking people where you should be scratching. Also, you sound like more of a hacker than a programmer. Getting something cobbled together isn't that interesting; script kiddies can do that. What matters is whether your work is fundamen...
[06:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:47] <exec> 08└─You should have ended with "Fork off."
[06:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:49] <exec> 08└─Since you say you are a programmer you are supposed to have a natural uncontrollable urge to fix bugs in software you use. Pick some bug fixes that you surely have written by now and try to contribute your fixes back to the maintainers. Find out your software is maintained by an exclusive club of el...
[06:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:51] <exec> 08└─What matters is whether your work is fundamentally sound—whether it's beautiful not only now, but for the rest of time.
[06:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:53] <exec> 08└─Chill out, bro. Nobody has yet made it to the stars, but it's important to aim for them; it's not enough to fly Cessnas on the weekend.
[06:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:04] <exec> 08└─Those wacky Nazis are at it again.
[06:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:07] <exec> 08└─Probably spot on for the most part. IIRCC the main reason these kind of tablets survived to this age is because the clay was fired at some point. What was usually the case was when the debt was paid, annual tax collected, ect. the clay tablet would be dropped into a bucket of water and recycled. Whi...
[06:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:09] <exec> 08└─I'm surprised no one has made an app to scan and rough translate these things automatically already. The researchers who found them probably couldn't get a good signal :)
[06:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 1847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:11] <exec> 08└─Anyone from the future ain't getting jack from any of our digital crap. Assume it isn't even physically damaged, which is a bad assumption but lets be optimistic. Optical media? Have you actually looked in the Red Book? Give a team of the best and brightest a CD right now without a drive or the book...
[06:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:33] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why you think the sloth is any less likely than we are. Anyway my point wasn't about the likelihood but about the shape it might take, and I do like that sloth idea. Perhaps small sloth-like beings, with dense muscles and opposable thumbs, for climbing in lava vents rather than trees so...
[06:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:42] <exec> 08└─SG may have clean, (semi-)regular, cheap and efficient public transport, but if you get off work at 3am in West Bumfuck Jurong, bus and train services not running, all taxis waiting on Orchard Road, you might like some personal motorized transport.
[06:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:11:46] <exec> 08└─If the pigs are getting cold maybe scientists should have given them fur instead.
[06:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:12:38] <exec> 08└─If you see millions of obese people then something bigger
[06:13:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:13:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah, clearly only rich people should be allowed to commit crimes. ;-)
[06:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:21] <exec> 08└─> Molehill --> mountain. You call it insignificant. Another commenter said this style is "the SN SOP." Check the Hall of Fame [soylentnews.org] page. There are more accepted submissions from Phoenix666 than from any other named submitter, over 2800 of them. He consistently uses this unclear quotatio...
[06:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:23] <exec> 08└─Second result: [wikipedia.org] The spaghetti-tree hoax was a three-minute hoax report broadcast on April Fools' Day 1957 by the BBC current-affairs programme Panorama, purportedly showing a family in southern Switzerland harvesting spaghetti from the family "spaghetti tree".
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[07:09:53] <exec> 08└─Firstly, maintainers tell you to fuck off and die in a fire. Second, you fork the project. Third, you come back with a pull request that upstages the original author. Fourth and finally, you get ignored for eternity. Here in the real world, that is the lifecycle of a contribution.
[07:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 738 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:54] <exec> 08└─Stuff I don't do when asking for help is stuff that bugs me when I'm trying to Help: I Don't threaten (or even hint about) going "back to windows" or a different distro/package if I can't get help. I don't provide 37 reams of copy/paste of mostly useless information in my first request. Just basics....
[07:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:56] <exec> 08└─Any tips on finding an interesting project, not massively huge, but still meaningful, where the community is focused on the tech and not on politics?
[07:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:59] <exec> 08└─It's actually simple. Pick a piece of software that you actually use (there is more open source software on your system than you actually are aware of). E.g. lots of libraries used today are open source. Check out their project site and sign up to their mailing list (if any), and contact the people...
[07:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, but you have to be either US armed forces, or you're a target.
[07:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah I've wondered how viable is it to keep the MRT in Singapore running for extended hours (maybe even 24 hours for most days except maintenance days). I'm sure there will be people who'd want to use it. To me a rich and densely populated country like Singapore shouldn't even need to charge for pub...
[07:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:46] <exec> 08└─A car makes it easier to travel with young children (plural). Lots of people in Singapore actually don't have a car till they start a family. Probably one of the reasons why not as many Singaporeans are starting families? Many are OK with renting a room and taking the bus and MRT when they are singl...
[07:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:51] <exec> 08└─I'm not a big fan of hairs stuck in my teeth when I'm eating, but then again the genetically modified pig may not throw a tantrum when it's time to shave.
[07:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:52] <exec> 08└─Yeah I think those genes existed before and were bred out as farmers went for pigs that gained weight the fastest.
[07:14:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:28] <exec> 08└─There's all kinds of ruins out in the Arabian and North African deserts -- most look like remnants of villages, with associated walled gardens and sheep pens. And I suspect that's what these "gates" were, in an era when there was more water -- walled to keep sheep in or out, depending on the season....
[07:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:14:30] <exec> 08└─To me they look like sorting pens for sheep, which probably doubled as protected crop space when the sheep were turned out in the spring.
[07:15:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Stephen Hawking's PhD Thesis Made Available Online by Cambridge University - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:15:51] <exec> 08└─Taking a very superficial look, I notice that on page 7 the author wrote "This dissertation is my original work" in pen. From page 111 to page 113 there's a lengthy struck-out section. The maths were written without the benefit of LaTeX, in handwriting and with a typewriter.
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[08:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:54] <exec> 08└─look at scipy (www.scipy.org) and children (numpy, matplotlib, etc). those are python with a lot of C and possibly fortran in the back. extremely useful. with numpy for instance, I see a lot of warnings when I compile it, I guess that's something that anyone can try to fix. I don't know if they ente...
[08:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:31] <exec> 08└─Please understand what IAU actually means when they say "clearing the neighbourhood" [wikipedia.org] first. In short, it means that the body has become gravitationally dominant in its orbit, i.e. there are no other objects of comparable size in its orbital zone other than its satellites or other obj...
[08:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:14:24] <exec> 08└─Yup. https://en.wikipedia.org's_law#firstHeading [wikipedia.org] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
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[09:09:57] <exec> 08└─Cool story bro, next time we'll call the story "What Frojack does NOT do when manipulating maintainers". PS. Are you the same person who, every time there's a story about intelligence, posts their life story about how hard it is living with average people? Real interesting stuff.
[09:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:59] <exec> 08└─Hi bradley13 - please can you FIX the cross referencing bug in LibreOffice. If somebody doesn't do it THEN I AM GOING BACK TO MICR$$$OFT Word. Need any more ideas?? I got plenty.
[09:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03zugedneb [4556] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:26] <exec> 08└─https://games.slashdot.org/story/14/07/16/2216207/sony-forgets-to-pay-for-domain-hilarity-ensues [slashdot.org]
[09:17:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Mating With Neanderthals Reintroduced "Lost" DNA Into Modern Humans - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:17:45] <exec> 08└─I almost always prefer more phonetic spellings where there is a choice.
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[10:09:54] <exec> 08└─Open Source software is about scratching your own itches; you're asking people where you should be scratching. Also, you sound like more of a hacker than a programmer. Getting something cobbled together isn't that interesting; script kiddies can do that. What matters is whether your work is fundamen...
[10:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:06] <exec> 08└─As Mrs Turgid once famously observed about us computer geek types, we're all, "Smelly, autistic people with poor social skills.'
[10:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:45] <exec> 08└─A ring system is gravitationally bound to its planet, so it doesn't count.
[10:17:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:17:26] <exec> 08└─I'm a fan of Vim, but it's a fair point. Why is Vim so hard to close?
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[11:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:41] <exec> 08└─Aramco [wikipedia.org] (the Saudi national petroleum and natural gas company) is in need for money and plans a $2T float next year [telegraph.co.uk]
[11:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:09:43] <exec> 08└─The crown prince has been leading a drive to move Saudi Arabia away from its dependence on oil revenues. In August, the Gulf kingdom launched a massive tourism development project to turn 50 islands and other sites on the Red Sea into luxury resorts.
[11:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:56] <exec> 08└─The bodies in it aren't yet planets, but protoplanets, because a lot can still happen to them at that stage. They could still potentially be destroyed or severely altered by an impact on a timescale that is a very small fraction of the lifetime of their parent star, maybe within a few million years...
[11:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:47] <exec> 08└─Another thing they should do is to add public domain movies (In case anyone wonders if this will matter - in parts of the world* world this will cover the silent movie era, and for that matter quite a few Akira Kurosawa** movies, and also pretty much all german movies made before 1945 (spoils of war...
[11:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:13:06] <exec> 08└─Yup, I'm in need of reteaching myself that lesson too lately. The Roomie getting a riding mower has done me no favors this mowing season.
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[12:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 2259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:43] <exec> 08└─Sure, but if they diversify, they can lower oil exports even more when oil prices are low. However, by developing a bunch of islands as tourist destinations and housing for the rich, they run the risk of overextending themselves like Dubai [wikipedia.org] has: https://en.wikipedia.org
[12:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:51] <exec> 08└─Their biggest draw for me is their $0.99 coffee, any size. Coffee is good too. Though I think it's a NY or Northeast thing as it was $2-something in California when I was there in June for a medium. And it worked because I sometimes get a sandwich.
[12:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:53] <exec> 08└─Now let the customers roll in.
[12:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:55] <exec> 08└─came as McDonald's catches up with Chipotle
[12:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:57] <exec> 08└─Chipotle's profit ravaged by hurricanes, hack and high avocado prices [cnn.com] Chipotle is starting to look like a case study. Not the good kind.
[12:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:59] <exec> 08└─I've noticed many restaurants are charging hugely for sugar, and in most places there's no sin tax on sugar to excuse the high prices. $2 for a "big" cookie? $5 for a middling sized shake? $2 for a soft drink? Surely it costs more to make a burger than a shake. But people buy the sugary treats anywa...
[12:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:02] <exec> 08└─By me they are doing fine. No dirty hippies behind the counter either.
[12:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06After the DoJ Changes its "Gag Order" Policy, Microsoft Drops Lawsuit - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:10] <exec> 08└─DOJ gets their ducks in a row before arguing before the Supreme Court?
[12:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:34] <exec> 08└─No, that's me. I think you bastards make it intentionally difficult too.
[12:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 7593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:35] <exec> 08└─OK, if you're running a project that's only expected to be used by professional programmers, a lot of this is good advice. And don't get me wrong - despite what I'm putting in the rest of this post, I agree the world would be a better place if people asking for help on forums followed all of these p...
[12:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:38] <exec> 08└─You're always welcome to show off your chops here until you find something that tickles your fancy a bit more. We may do politics out on the site but they're utterly irrelevant to coding. No political opinion is going to turn an O(2N) perl sub into O(N) or vice versa.
[12:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Dense Rings of Comets are Forming Low-Gas Super-Earths in Other Solar Systems - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:18] <exec> 08└─The bodies in it aren't yet planets, but protoplanets
[12:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hundreds of Mysterious Stone ‘Gates’ Found in Saudi Arabia’s Desert - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:17] <exec> 08└─I would have put quotes around "Mysterious" before gates. If they not *actual* gates , how are they "mysterious"? More importantly, maybe only "mysterious" to the researchers? Yeah, things only seen from the air...perhaps the ancients had hot air balloons?
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[13:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:52] <exec> 08└─They have a reputation for not getting their shit sorted out. For example, the Burj Khalifa isn't plumbed into a main - they ship the poop out in trucks! http://www.minyanville.com
[13:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:54] <exec> 08└─It's a green city. Maybe the poop will be used for rooftop farms.
[13:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:56] <exec> 08└─Luckily the "they" you are talking about are an entirely different "they" to the ones in the article. The Burj Kalifa is in Dubai, UAE. The article is about a project in the neighbouring country of Saudi Arabia. Something worth adding to this discussion is the fact that this economic revolution will...
[13:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:09] <exec> 08└─Maybe they cleaned up around here too. I don't know since I haven't been back since the E. Coli outbreak in 2015. The Norovirus outbreak this year clinched it for me if I even thought about ever going back. I just figured the whole company was run by dirty hippies and I didn't want to be caught up i...
[13:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:10] <exec> 08└─I bet the protein for their burgers will come from insects. That will give them the margin they need to pull this off.
[13:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06After the DoJ Changes its "Gag Order" Policy, Microsoft Drops Lawsuit - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:19] <exec> 08└─How long until they change the policy back. There is no telling how much it will be limited if they refuse to allow companies to discuss how often it was used before. If you were not allowed to say how many you received in the past, and still can't say how many you receive now, how can you know if t...
[13:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:46] <exec> 08└─What holds me back is pay. Contributing is hard, but easier than getting paid to contribute. What little free time I have I prefer to do research. Which I'm not getting paid for either, but rather write snippets of code for that than monkey with someone else's tedious and boring code, if it's all ch...
[13:11:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1855 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:11:51] <exec> 08└─I don't think so. People are slowly but steadily leaving cable TV as the oldest generation dies out, and younger generations don't see the value in something where they can't skip the commercials (without a DVR), can't pick what to watch when, it has an utterly archaic UI, etc. But people are showin...
[13:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:37] <exec> 08└─Adipocytes are not a substantial contributer to the breast tumor microenvironment. While there are some cases of cancer cells "eating" (entosis) other cancer cells, adipocytes do not play a role in this. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
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[14:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:37] <exec> 08└─Bitcoin survived the Bitcoin-Cash fork, it will survive this one. The stupid thing is this: The one that will remain "the one, true bitcoin" is the one that gets to keep the name. I haven't looked into the details, but I assume that is the one that is keeping to the original specification. The fork...
[14:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:39] <exec> 08└─I think I really should get off my butt and get on Monero... But I'll probably miss the train again just like I did Bitcoin...
[14:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:41] <exec> 08└─No, but that's still the plan. With love, -The Bankers
[14:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:43] <exec> 08└─Summary of the article. Developer group 1: We want bigger blocks to handle more transactions Developer group 2: We want simpler blocks to handle more transactions Users: We just want a working system which requires a single, standard way of doing things D1 and D2 may be exposing a fundamental flaw i...
[14:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:02] <exec> 08└─It will be a progressive place. Unlike the surrounding Kingdom, here they will attach parachutes to the homosexuals they throw off tall buildings. And the stones used to stone them on the bottom, will have smooth surfaces, polished down by children's hands.
[14:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kilo110 [2853] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:04] <exec> 08└─That backward and repressive place needs to hurry up and run out of oil so they can go back to herding camels. Any attempts to appeal to an international audience are a joke until they fix their incompatible toxic culture. I foresee that happening sometime shortly after the heat death of the univers...
[14:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 3121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:20] <exec> 08└─Soy is still cheaper. Was stuck eating at a McD last summer. They have slightly upgraded from all illegal alien staff to importing poor people who take the bus for two hours (only customer cars in the lot) for each short shift and have terrible working, service, and cleaning habits. The disadvantage...
[14:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Farmer Tim [6490] (Score: 1) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:21] <exec> 08└─But if they switch to insects what will they do with all the leftover rats?
[14:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:23] <exec> 08└─Yes it's good. One of the places here has $1 iced coffee, any-size. But I am dismayed there is no decaf option. I know it's not that simple to just toss it in with everything else they have to contend with int he supply chain, but it would be nice.
[14:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:25] <exec> 08└─10 minutes to get your order in an EMPTY restaurant? I dare not imagine what was going on in the back of that place in those 10 minutes. Terrible.
[14:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 3066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:28] <exec> 08└─Oh and follow up forgot some topics. Maybe TMI but in the 90s McD was famous for the McD tummy after eating there, this wasn't just me it was my friends too, not just one restaurant, and not the type of food as homemade never did this, but a McD meal came with a quarter cup of fryer oil trans fat so...
[14:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:30] <exec> 08└─But I am dismayed there is no decaf option.
[14:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:32] <exec> 08└─Why? Did they charge you extra for the E. Coli, or was it gratis? Novovirus may be worth paying extra, but not much. Now, hepatitus? That's nasty. Hippies and illegal aliens, they should all be sent back where they came from!! What's that, Granddaughter? Where do hippies come from? I'm not sure, Bab...
[14:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:34] <exec> 08└─Poor people in America are really, really fat. I mean there are and always have been some fat people at the uni or the library or the gym, but like everyone at McD or Walmart is fat as heck.
[14:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:10] <exec> 08└─"Or you have projects so specialized that maybe 10 people in the whole world will ever care about them, and I'm not one of them" That just means you haven't found the right project. I've been of the same view for several years. Finally I found a guy who wrote a paper on a software project where I re...
[14:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:11] <exec> 08└─And the core of being polite: assume that other people's time is at least as valuable as yours.
[14:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:13] <exec> 08└─Post a question. Use another account to post an elaborate, but completely wrong answer. Let the indignant mob pile on.
[14:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03arulatas [3600] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:28] <exec> 08└─Yes but their data caps are 20 Megs a month.
[14:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:30] <exec> 08└─I've been thinking that encryption explains the Fermi paradox quite well for awhile now. Eventually everyone wants their communications to be indistinguishable from "noise" to everyone but the intended recipients.
[14:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:08] <exec> 08└─I would say it is like those dystopian mice experiments. The psychological effect of living in a densely populated metropolis, with no way out, do take their toll. I had some contact with people from Singapore a good decade ago, I wasn't working and played World of Warcraft during daytime hours. And...
[14:18:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:44] <exec> 08└─But having to do so *interrupts the flow* of writing
[14:18:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:45] <exec> 08└─The MacBooks have an escape key, it's just software defined on the buzzword bar (and controllable from the terminal, so you can teach vim to set the other keys to behave like function keys but displaying the name of the action that you've defined for them to use). The iPad, in contrast, has no escap...
[14:18:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Seven Habits of Effective Text Editing in Vim - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:18:47] <exec> 08└─You realise that vim has support for Python, Ruby, Lua, Tcl, and Perl as optional scripting language and Vim Script built in?
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[15:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:45] <exec> 08└─one coin to rule them all. Get your genuine Mordor currency here! Genuine Mordor Murder bits, lowest exchange rates around!!
[15:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:46] <exec> 08└─A store of wealth needs predictability and if a squabble between developers on something this minor eliminates this, then maybe the whole support system idea wasn't so great.
[15:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:48] <exec> 08└─You are wrong, sir. This fork is different (and it's explained in the article). With Bitcoin Cash, transactions were not valid on both chains. A Bitcoin Cash transaction was not valid on the main chain and vice-versa. That is not the case with this fork. This fork is intended to replace the main cha...
[15:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:51] <exec> 08└─Good points - the better marketing often beats the best specs. Yet I suspect we are still in the "myspace" stage of digital currency, and Bitcoin could be displaced by one that is ubiquitous and easier to use. For example, imagine what would happen if Apple launched the "iCoin" - linked to their dig...
[15:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:53] <exec> 08└─Forked to death.
[15:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:55] <exec> 08└─Bitcoins have a soul? Is that some kinda blockchain scam?
[15:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:17] <exec> 08└─I have faith that people don't really care about such things, although they are making progress as has been noted. The real trick will be ensuring low terrorism at their tourist hangouts and miracle city.
[15:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 1499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:18] <exec> 08└─Saudi Arabia wants to return to ‘moderate Islam.’ Skeptics say it’s a marketing ploy. [washingtonpost.com] (archive [archive.is]) Madawi Al-Rasheed, a Middle East scholar at the London School of Economics, argued in an email that Saudi Arabia was not one of the many countries where moderate Is...
[15:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 1542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:42] <exec> 08└─Its a (typical for McD?) open design so I got to watch. They seemed very confused/disorganized. A lot of yelling before they got to work, maybe I interrupted break time? Like seriously, I know its just McD, but mise en place, MFers, if you're going into the cooler three times to make some dudes hamb...
[15:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:44] <exec> 08└─I can't quite make up my mind whether you're being entirely serious, exaggerating some, or exaggerating quite a lot. Around here, Mickey's employees still include white, black and now Mexican children, still in school. I first noticed "mature" or "middle aged" people in Mickey's (east coast) in late...
[15:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03progo [6356] (Score: 1) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:46] <exec> 08└─Some of the national fast food chains have been using animated menus where one or all panels of the menu feature a set of items that DISAPPEARS periodically to show some other items or a house ad. A few years ago Burger King would even take the entire menu away to show a single video across all the...
[15:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 1443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:48] <exec> 08└─Maybe its a threshold effect. When I was a starving college student for a year or two I could only afford one pizza per day for dinner and some salad for lunch and that sounds awful but I remained thin, but note that I couldn't afford going to McD or excess junk food. I had to start watching my diet...
[15:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:50] <exec> 08└─That's exposition of Shakespearean proportions, but I agree with you. I don't know what McDonald's has done to adulterate their food, but it has become downright poisonous. It makes you sick when you eat it. If a person is craving a burger, Five Guys or Bare Burger seem like better options these day...
[15:11:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MrGuy [1007] 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 7593 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:23] <exec> 08└─OK, if you're running a project that's only expected to be used by professional programmers, a lot of this is good advice. And don't get me wrong - despite what I'm putting in the rest of this post, I agree the world would be a better place if people asking for help on forums followed all of these p...
[15:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:29] <exec> 08└─In a different comment thread someone wrote: "most support forums have a nasty streak that's really, really offputting" I waited several hours to reply to this comment, because I was curious to see what responses it might generate. The comment I'm replying to is a perfect example of that. Rather tha...
[15:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:31] <exec> 08└─Good suggestion, thanks...
[15:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:34] <exec> 08└─LibreOffice is one candidate that I am seriously considering. It is something I use, and has problems I would like to see fixed. The only reason I haven't jumped in is: it is definitely "massively huge", and will take a long time to work into...
[15:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:36] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the offer! I haven't done any sort of web-oriented development for a long time, but I'll certainly consider it.
[15:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:52] <exec> 08└─Year 2350, archaeologists have uncovered a trove of information on an ancient format: zip disk. After many arduous months, they have managed to decipher the content...
[15:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 746 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:54] <exec> 08└─> The clay tablet would be dropped into a bucket of water and recycled. - The man from the past: oh you got tablets too? - me: of course we do, they are far more advanced than yours - Oh! they can retain data for more than 3 millennia? - errr... - Oh, you mean you have to recycle them now and then?...
[15:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:12] <exec> 08└─I can't remember who it is but someone on SN has this sig: "It's not a conspiracy, it's a plot!"
[15:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:14] <exec> 08└─There's a new season of Stranger Things on friday. Resub!
[15:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:13:43] <exec> 08└─And they get fucking huge too. I mean 1000 pound pigs! How much bacon is that? How many pork chops and pork roasts?
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[16:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:52] <exec> 08└─Believe in the heart of the coins.
[16:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:54] <exec> 08└─To a user, predictability is fundamental, having a solution for a faster transaction rate is major, but the technical difference between the 2 solutions is minor. To have a minor technical difference kill the fundamentals would be unfortunate.
[16:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:56] <exec> 08└─To a user, predictability is fundamental
[16:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06India's Chandrayaan-2 Moon Mission Planned for 2018 - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:04] <exec> 08└─I really enjoy watching the Indian Space Research Organization's achievements. They accomplish so much with a much smaller budget than other agencies. I am skeptical at the quoted 93 million price for any agency, but that doesn't mean I'm not cheering them on.
[16:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:21] <exec> 08└─Tourism is a very sensitive industry to external factors (world economy, terrorism, etc.).
[16:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:23] <exec> 08└─Free burka and caning for each applicant? No thanks. Saudi Arabia would do better to cover their entire country in solar farms and export the energy, if they want to diversify their economy away from oil.
[16:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:52] <exec> 08└─Feed them to the insects, of course.
[16:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:53] <exec> 08└─In NYC animated menus are not needed to drive customers away from McDonald's. The poor quality of their food and skyrocketing prices, and the plethora of cheaper, better alternatives are enough. There are food trucks that are doing really interesting fusion menus. There are old-style food carts that...
[16:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:55] <exec> 08└─live in a bad area of the country. Are you a Californian?
[16:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:57] <exec> 08└─A few years ago McDonald's was trying to replicate Chipotle's success by increasing quality and prices. More recently McDonald's realized that everyone associates McDonald's with cheap fast food, so they doubled down on promotions for budget foods, like this 1$ menu and breakfast all day. It is what...
[16:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:00] <exec> 08└─I agree with your comment except for the shake. There is a lot more than sugar in a milkshake, and especially since all shakes include whipped cream and a cherry (increased prep time) I suspect that 2$ milkshakes are breaking even.
[16:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:02] <exec> 08└─I agree, although I believe the chains are getting the message for the most part. My frustration is that since I don't eat fast food often, when I do I want to try what is new. And guess what gets animated: the latest promotions. But in general the menus are terrible; there are so many options and t...
[16:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:04] <exec> 08└─WTF? Been eating a few shrooms before posting?
[16:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:06] <exec> 08└─Some people are sensitive to caffeine, and don't like the their hands to jitter like Michael J. Fox.
[16:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:09] <exec> 08└─Like half the posts on this thread are yours, and all of them are you jerking off in public over how icky and gross and dumb and disgusting all "the poors" are. We get it; we know what kind of person you are. Honestly? I'll take your tattoo'd weightlifting "thug" (thank you for not outright tossing...
[16:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:11] <exec> 08└─Every place upsells. I often visit a place with coupons in hand determined to pay $5. I end up paying $10+ to get what I actually want. I applaud them for making the coupons such that there is no way to actually get what you want with them no matter how much you try.
[16:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03EQ [1716] (Score: 2) 02 - 06After the DoJ Changes its "Gag Order" Policy, Microsoft Drops Lawsuit - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:20] <exec> 08└─After all the erosions of liberty under Bush and then Obama, I never would have expected this under a Trump/Sessions Justice Department. I am waiting for an ulterior motive to pop up someplace.
[16:11:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 149 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:38] <exec> 08└─Any tips on finding an interesting project, not massively huge, but still meaningful, where the community is focused on the tech and not on politics?
[16:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:56] <exec> 08└─Maybe it has something to do with your attitude.
[16:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:57] <exec> 08└─Ah, TMB and khallow are sock puppets of Aristarchus. It all makes sense now...
[16:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:59] <exec> 08└─So what? I bet your work does stink, like most proprietary crap.
[16:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 598 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:19] <exec> 08└─Oh please. If people from the future with very advanced technology found some DVD-ROMs or hard drives, it wouldn't be that hard for them to figure it out, though it'd take them a little time. The encoding on optical discs isn't that complicated, and for hard drives they wouldn't try to power them, t...
[16:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:12:59] <exec> 08└─Honestly, I'd love to see a shopping mall start charging fees for using the elevator, escalator, or public restroom. It'd be funny to see how long it took for that mall to wind up on deadmalls.com. But I wouldn't put it past some stupid executive to try such a thing.
[16:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:00] <exec> 08└─Lots of people in Singapore actually don't have a car till they start a family. This is how it is in Japan too. There's little reason to have a car because public transit is generally faster, and a whole lot cheaper. But cars make it easier to get around with little kids. Probably one of the reasons...
[16:13:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 197 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:22] <exec> 08└─None of which matters if the big ISPs want you dead and throttle you, with the FCC's blessing. Anticompetitive practices are not delusions, conspiracies or speculation, but proven historical facts.
[16:13:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fishybell [3156] 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 404 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:30] <exec> 08└─As apparently the only one here willing to admit they watch Netflix, I guess I'll add my two cents: No. They need to stop dropping non-original content. Their original content can be great (see Stranger Things), but I subscribe for mostly non-original content. I don't mind waiting a year for the con...
[16:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:44] <exec> 08└─One person has supporting links, and you have your opinion. "Try again" is a pretty lame response, maybe yiy should try again!
[16:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:45] <exec> 08└─Yep, same here. If the stuff I want to watch was not being removed in a regular basis, then I'd be much happier (my kids would also like to know why suddenly entire seasons of their cartoons disappear, leaving me trying to explain a 3 and a 5 year old that I'm not the one responsible for this :D). Y...
[16:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:13:48] <exec> 08└─Try again.
[16:14:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:14:17] <exec> 08└─You though swine flu was scary? Try breast cancer on a female with 6 or 7 pairs of teats...
[16:15:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:11] <exec> 08└─Yes, you should. Your narrow minded view if the universe is very damaging to your psyche. It won't overly affect others unless you go full psycho, try applying your worldview and see how quickly you're smacked down. You can blame human psychology as being totally wrong, but how can that be if it is...
[16:15:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:13] <exec> 08└─So why would it happen on across multiple devices NOT using TOR?
[16:15:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:15] <exec> 08└─No
[16:17:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Receives 238 Proposals for HQ2, Including Multi-Billion Dollar Incentive Offers - 978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:17:38] <exec> 08└─In that kind of situation, paying off debts might not be much better than just setting the money on fire. You start out on public assistance and in debt, and once the money's gone you're right back on assistance and in debt. What good is paying the debt? You'll just have more debt tomorrow. It's not...
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[17:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:45] <exec> 08└─Isn't one of the major points of 3D printing that you can make the thing fast locally? If you're going to 3D-print it halfway around the world, maybe a local CNC guy would have been happy to be awarded the job...
[17:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:46] <exec> 08└─Another major point of 3D printing is low volume production, with high precision. On the other side, I don't think this is the kind of thing you'll print in your generic reprap. Besides, getting the thing implanted was probably several thousand times the cost of flying it half-way around the world....
[17:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03AssCork [6255] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:49] <exec> 08└─One of the things that amazes me is how fast mankind develops and matures technology (like smartphones) but really important things like prosthetics and implants seem to lag decades (or centuries) behind. I realize this is, at least in part, due to the vast amount of testing and regulation that is r...
[17:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:08] <exec> 08└─Bitcoin was a great idea, then transaction fees popped up, decentralization became centralized as powerful mining groups were created. Turns out it can be "owned" if someone can corner enough of the hashing market. Along with the unpredictability of the base price Bitcoin is a massive failure at it'...
[17:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:10] <exec> 08└─Use the blockchain to secure your soul, then sell it.
[17:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:12] <exec> 08└─If you fork your children, you have to sleep on their zombies when they die.
[17:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:14] <exec> 08└─I get the impression that it has been embraced in the last two years mostly as a device to move capital across borders and avoid regulations (for as long as it is still possible to do so before a crackdown). After that there's donations to open source software devs and a few dark web drug purchases....
[17:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:16] <exec> 08└─Fuck cryptominers, fuck day traders, and fuck every rent-seeking son of a bitch who tries to live without working. Get a real job, assholes.
[17:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 759 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:18] <exec> 08└─Of course market predictability is not expected for something like this. I meant transaction predictability as in if I ask for X, X will happen. Perhaps a better word instead of predictable is dependable. How the market turns out over time depends on if folks believe in BC as a useful thing. To be u...
[17:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:21] <exec> 08└─Well, yes, but... I do think digital currencies have an important role to play. If we can prevent governments from stomping on them, digital currencies offer an alternative to central banks. Which reduces governments' ability (by at least a small amount) to screw with us.
[17:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06India's Chandrayaan-2 Moon Mission Planned for 2018 - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:29] <exec> 08└─> I am skeptical at the quoted 93 million price [cue stereotypical Indian accent] Dear Rover, your bug is important to us. Our ISRO scientists are all busy right now, but someone will assist you shortly. Please stay on the line, your hold time is estimated at 1 hour, 42 minutes... Didn't they get to...
[17:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06India's Chandrayaan-2 Moon Mission Planned for 2018 - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:31] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Orbiter_Mission [wikipedia.org] The total cost of the mission was approximately ₹450 Crore (US$73 million),[37][38] making it the least-expensive Mars mission to date.[39] The low cost of the mission was ascribed by K. Radhakrishnan, the chairman of ISRO, to vari...
[17:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:51] <exec> 08└─That was pretty much my first thoughts as well, but humans evolve and culture changes. Perhaps desperation to stave off the transition away from oil will spur their tourist activities and rapidly get their laws updated to more sane modern standards. At the very least they'll need to let bars exist,...
[17:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:53] <exec> 08└─> that's not good enough to spark an increase in leisure travel from other cultures who want to drink booze and walk around half-naked women during their vacations. FTFY.
[17:11:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 43 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:13] <exec> 08└─But I am dismayed there is no decaf option.
[17:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:32] <exec> 08└─I miss the halal street carts from NYC soooo much. They're not that much pricier than a decent size McD meal and you get way more, way cleaner, way healthier food if you're careful.
[17:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it was a cheap shot. McD's offers sweet [mcdonalds.com] and unsweetened [mcdonalds.com] tea, which should have lower caffeine. They didn't list caffeine content in the nutrition facts though.
[17:11:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:35] <exec> 08└─Perfect example of why they need to fully automate.
[17:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:37] <exec> 08└─My doctor just put me on a paleo diet less than a week ago, and I'm already feeling a bit thinner. It is a fair bit more expensive though, since meat and veggies have lower energy density and higher prices than grains and sugars.
[17:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06After the DoJ Changes its "Gag Order" Policy, Microsoft Drops Lawsuit - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:49] <exec> 08└─> How long until they change the policy back. Let me check the latest Mass Shooting And Terrorism Forecast ... Two whites ... Five blacks ... Three whites ... There! One muslim guy, just before thanksgiving! You've got a month, give or take.
[17:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:27] <exec> 08└─While I could see TMB and khallow being smart enough to pull of sock puppets, Aristarchus seems to be genuinely mentally unbalanced and is obviously well practiced at bringing people down to his level and then beating them with experience (to steal a phrase). And all three seem to suffer the need to...
[17:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:47] <exec> 08└─It means "I'm an idiot and I bought a crappy Zip drive."
[17:14:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:14] <exec> 08└─You're looking at it backwards, unsurprisingly. Netflix wants to go straight to the consumer, not be just another HBO. Big cable can't prevent it under Net Neutrality rules, so they Embrace for now, to reduce cord-cutting. Big cable owns HBO, showtime and the others. Netflix is an annoying competito...
[17:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:16] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure they would be second world: http://www.investopedia.com [investopedia.com]
[17:16:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:27] <exec> 08└─That is excellent, I need to remember your #4 suggestion there.
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[18:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:39] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't the markets determine how society allocates resources and sets prices? There needs to be a Separation of Business and State.
[18:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:55] <exec> 08└─I think you are vastly underrating the inherent problems with operations to replace bones or other internal organs. We'll be cyborgs a lot before that becomes routine. In fact, we may even do brain transplants into robot bodies before that becomes routine (although the brain transplant, itself, woul...
[18:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:56] <exec> 08└─The other problem is maintenance. Natural versions are easy to power and self-heal. Artificial replacements need better batteries than we have, and suffer from wear unless made of very expensive materials. It's a lot easier to make a robot from scratch, than to try to graft one onto a filthy meatsac...
[18:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:24] <exec> 08└─"which are impractical because of the wildly fluctuating coin value" it's only impractical when you are trying to use humans to do the calculations. that's ridiculous on it's face.
[18:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 477 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:25] <exec> 08└─I'm spending my very limited funds to try and make sure we have private money and to hopefully fund other operations. Global digital currency and a cashless society is probably a forgone conclusion. The only question is whether people have *private* digital currency or not. What that would enable is...
[18:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06India's Chandrayaan-2 Moon Mission Planned for 2018 - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:36] <exec> 08└─Of course in this scenario it's the low-paid US call-center employee escalating a customer to the Indian scientists.
[18:10:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 797 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:49] <exec> 08└─Luckily the "they" you are talking about are an entirely different "they" to the ones in the article. The Burj Kalifa is in Dubai, UAE. The article is about a project in the neighbouring country of Saudi Arabia. Something worth adding to this discussion is the fact that this economic revolution will...
[18:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:59] <exec> 08└─Free burka and caning for each applicant? No thanks.
[18:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:01] <exec> 08└─Wonder if that's to help cover that $5 billion in renewables. [bloomberg.com] Even Saudi Oil-Barons get it....
[18:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:03] <exec> 08└─Why do you think the oil prices went from $120/barrel in 2012 to under $40 in 2015? Fracking.
[18:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:05] <exec> 08└─That is remarkably optimistic. Innovation rests on much more than money. Saudis have been coddled and spoiled for generations now by easy oil money. That is, they've had all the money in the world with which to innovate, but they haven't. Did Saudi Arabia even produce amazing cars to burn their oil?...
[18:11:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 3121 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:21] <exec> 08└─Soy is still cheaper. Was stuck eating at a McD last summer. They have slightly upgraded from all illegal alien staff to importing poor people who take the bus for two hours (only customer cars in the lot) for each short shift and have terrible working, service, and cleaning habits. The disadvantage...
[18:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:49] <exec> 08└─Haha all we have to do to bribe my brother-in-law in Long Island to watch our kids for date night is bring him a gyro or falafel platter from those carts. $5. A Big Mac meal costs what now, $10? The food truck rallies in Grand Army Plaza are still fun, too. Kimchi Tacos. Not quite the Japanese/Mexic...
[18:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:39] <exec> 08└─The worst part of that exchange for me is the "ALLEN: Ah. Nevermind. I figured it out." Sure, Allen got frustrated because no one was offering him a solution so was short to kill the thread. But now when someone (maybe even him) have the same problem later, the solution isn't there. And, more frustr...
[18:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Archaeologists Uncover Cuneiform Archive in Iraq’s Kurdish Region - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:01] <exec> 08└─I don't know either. But I can say to martyb, a Rick Roll is more NSFW than what my original submission linked to... It would have worked, too, if not for them darn kids.
[18:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:42] <exec> 08└─I remember our mall having pay locks on the bathroom stalls in the early 1980s. I took pride in being able to go under the door and shit for free.
[18:13:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 282 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:52] <exec> 08└─That's not what's gonna kill Netflix short-term. The end of Net neutrality, bringing low-low caps on anything not rubber-stamped by Comcast or ATT will, at least in the US. Netflix will have to raise their prices to pay off the ISPs, until they're just one more cable-like choice...
[18:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:31] <exec> 08└─...and didn't appreciate stuff constantly coming and going... Of course, if they make their own content, it doesn't need to come and go anymore.
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[19:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:37] <exec> 08└─Because someone needs to arbiter the conflicts between the various forces at play, to enable the customers to receive a consistent product, which does not endanger them or threaten the proper conduct of their daily lives. Incidentally, it's also because the US government has been in the business of...
[19:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:39] <exec> 08└─You're reasoning is contradictory gibberish that is closer to religion than rationality.
[19:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:41] <exec> 08└─It's expensive, it turns food into fuel, it doesn't have the energy density of gas, and it can harm some engines. Given the choice I wouldn't go near ethanol. Except the the ethanol that fuels me, of course.
[19:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 1427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:43] <exec> 08└─There is no separation of business and state, and they're never has been. Ever. Corn biofuel is complete utter bullshit. All the experts and scientists say it is a poor biofuel compared to other avenues like switchgrass and vertical algae farms. What is had was excellent politics. Already fitting in...
[19:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:45] <exec> 08└─Because if it was based solely upon economics, there wouldn't be any used because corn-based biofuels are too expensive. The biofuel requirement is Congressional corporate welfare benefiting the ag industry. Corn-based biofuel is not cost sustainable, but it turns out that all those midwestern red s...
[19:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:48] <exec> 08└─Thank goodness we moved past those naysayers.
[19:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Electrons Controlled in Graphene Using Scanning Tunnelling Microscope - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:55] <exec> 08└─There have been a billion discoveries, but nothing seems to materialize in the market.
[19:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:07] <exec> 08└─local cnc hacker isn't going to get it done quicker, won't have the materials, won't have the tools to handle the materials, and has never done anything even remotely like this before. And you'd want that lashup embedded in your chest?
[19:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:37] <exec> 08└─Democracy was a great idea, then election costs popped up, decentralization became centralized as powerful interest groups were created. Turns out it can be "owned" if someone can corner enough of the influence market. Along with the unpredictability of the voter base, democracy is a massive failure...
[19:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:38] <exec> 08└─Assuming the summary is correct, standards committee's have had this problem for eon's. Often because D1 and D2 have differing patent portfolios. One useful solution is to do both and get on with it. That might be a single fork with slightly bigger and simpler blocks.
[19:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:40] <exec> 08└─Sure they have a role, but this wild investment fire in Bitcoin is highly suspicious. The value is in being able to trade cryptographically secure tokens, and what value any one token has will probably drop when there are a few hundred "coins" around. Eventually people will easily be able to pay in...
[19:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 3300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:42] <exec> 08└─I get the distinct impression that you have no clue what a central bank actually does or why it was invented. A lot of crypto-currency advocates seem to think that in a back room somewhere Janet Yellen is rubbing her hands together in glee as she crashes the US dollar just for the fun of it or somet...
[19:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:45] <exec> 08└─The whole point of inflation is to encourage you to get your cash out of your mattress and put it towards something useful.
[19:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:47] <exec> 08└─Sure it "flattens out" - because the central banks demand only one direction: Inflation. Because that's the only way to keep the money flowing toward the top (the oligarchs). Deflation can often be a good thing, but not for the ones holding the most money. It's designed to make the rich richer and t...
[19:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:49] <exec> 08└─I get the impression that you think central banks only do "good" Money printing has historically been a big enabler of financing wars. Read any economic history if you don't believe this. Money printing also allows governments to deficit spend on projects/programs of dubious value. Where would the U...
[19:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:51] <exec> 08└─shorter: some banker scum: we want to undermine -see what I did here- your confidence in bitcoin hardforking the thing and luring people into running their corporate controled software/blockchain oh and we still want to make profit out of it rest of people: just make an ICO for your crap and fuck of...
[19:12:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 118 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:48] <exec> 08└─Post a question. Use another account to post an elaborate, but completely wrong answer. Let the indignant mob pile on.
[19:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 1355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─Disagree. Most of what I watch these days are either Netflix originals or Amazon originals, and I know the Amazon stuff wouldn't be hitting Netflix no matter what since they're in pretty direct competition. There's one or two decent shows on major networks still but not much. I watch more original c...
[19:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:50] <exec> 08└─But I recently came to the conclusion that open mics are the best I will ever do. I wanted to join a band but I have to be honest - I'm not that good.
[19:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:52] <exec> 08└─Right, but it's silly to think that one production company is going to make all the stuff I'll want to watch, so instead we'll wind up with lots of different, incompatible streaming services, and you'll have to have subscriptions to all of them just because there's one (and only one) show on each yo...
[19:14:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:55] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's a somewhat stupid term to use, because you'd have to be a complete idiot to think that Switzerland is a "backwards" country, yet it absolutely does qualify for "third world" status because it was never aligned with either the USA or USSR. Same goes for Norway.
[19:14:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:57] <exec> 08└─It wasn't expensive, but pulling it up every other day to find the thing the kids wanted to watch had vanished produced caterwauling to wake the dead. It, too, has been completely mined out now so we tell the kids to go read books or do crafts. These are all good and well, but you do seem to be forg...
[19:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 744 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:27] <exec> 08└─Usually I comment on these with the idea that instead of "editing", pre-existing mutants were selected (mostly this is a problem with the KO NHEJ studies). This doesn't seem plausible here since they properly sequenced across the splice junctions. I couldn't totally check the results without the pla...
[19:17:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 1909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:17:10] <exec> 08└─I'm not. Many methods already exist in place. You can have auto-renew set. That may have a problem with payment information but... Renewals occur before the expiration date, not on it. There are emails sent out to the domain owner, billing record, and technical record, at multiple points in the proc...
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[20:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:35] <exec> 08└─If you try to protect people from their own stupidity, you'll just end up with Tyranny.
[20:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:37] <exec> 08└─Do they have a similar law for people who text and drive, which is far, far more dangerous? And if they do, do they actually enforce it? (And how would they?) In fact, why are pedestrians being hit at all in crosswalks? It shouldn't matter what they're doing there or if they're paying attention: if...
[20:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:39] <exec> 08└─Do they have a similar law for people who text and drive, which is far, far more dangerous?
[20:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:41] <exec> 08└─Its clear this was never meant to pass, it was a hack job on an existing bill to outlaw texting while driving, and someone struck out all those provisions and inserted anti-walking provisions. http://www4.honolulu.gov(14).PDF [honolulu.gov] Further, it d...
[20:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:43] <exec> 08└─Look at the PDF. They edited their texting+driving law to encompass people crossing the street.
[20:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:46] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, I think I really read that wrong and somehow thought pedestrian was "person", covering both pedestrian and driver. I expect that another law still covers distracted driving.
[20:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:48] <exec> 08└─Get appogle to issue fines whenever an active phone crosses a roadway. Can co-opt witnesses from other iot sensors in the vicinity.
[20:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:01] <exec> 08└─You forgot to add that the states that benefit from this are the ones that are very vocal about keeping the government out of their lives and businesses.
[20:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 1018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:03] <exec> 08└─Granted Ethanol is a net loss. Has been since inception. It was never about making gasoline cheaper, or cleaner. It was always about stretching gas supplies and having domestic alternatives, and reducing refinery work loads. The Obama rules were going to increase ethanol percentage above the current...
[20:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:05] <exec> 08└─Big Business is not necessarily representative of the people who live in those states. That's the problem with you collectivists; you can't see the trees for the forest. (Yes, I got that right.)
[20:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:07] <exec> 08└─They are. The wealthy buy the laws that suit them and everyone else has to eat their shit. Can you and are you willing to buy different laws? No? Then off to the corn fields serf! In before "but that's not real communism capitalism" and "but if governments didn't exist this would never happen".
[20:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:10] <exec> 08└─You're reasoning is contradictory gibberish
[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't the markets determine how society allocates resources and sets prices?
[20:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:14] <exec> 08└─Except the the ethanol that fuels me, of course.
[20:11:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:10] <exec> 08└─There are constitutional amendments for a reason. Democracy is the best we've got so far, and we're learning how hard it is to keep centralized interests from gaining power. Next step: blockchain democracy! Our current problems are due to a belief that the constitution is perfect, sacred and untouch...
[20:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:12] <exec> 08└─But currencies like Bitcoin have strong deflationary tendencies right?
[20:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:14] <exec> 08└─^ this crackpot sees trends
[20:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:16] <exec> 08└─imagine what would happen if Apple launched the "iCoin" - linked to their digital wallet and "Apple Pay" tech
[20:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:18] <exec> 08└─Because that's the only way to keep the money flowing toward the top (the oligarchs). Deflation can often be a good thing, but not for the ones holding the most money. It's designed to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
[20:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:20] <exec> 08└─it's only impractical when you are trying to use humans to do the calculations.
[20:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06India's Chandrayaan-2 Moon Mission Planned for 2018 - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:31] <exec> 08└─What was the quoted price of the Tata (car-ish thing)? like $600? And some "laptop computers" under $100. I suspect creative accounting plays a little into the frugal budget appearance, and some serious de-featuring. The plans call for a Rover, but... let's see the telemetry back from that Rover bef...
[20:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:58] <exec> 08└─> Did Saudi Arabia even produce amazing cars to burn their oil? Agree with most of your post, it may be too late for Saudi Arabia to change their culture to producing anything but oil. Personally, I'd like to see them fund a long term effort to re-tree large parts of their country, I keep hearing ab...
[20:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:59] <exec> 08└─Islam is very resistant to change. You can't directly change a country from Islam to some other religion. You can however do that if you take an intermediate step. That step is something like what we see in North Korea. When you have communism with a dictator who requires complete submission, you ca...
[20:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:33] <exec> 08└─You are a two-faced moronic hypocrite, and here is why. Your sig says: "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
[20:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:35] <exec> 08└─How is my sig either twofaced, or hypocritical? Trust, but verify. It's not like I changed my sig for this exact comment tree, dude. It's been the same thing for the last year or two at least.
[20:13:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:37] <exec> 08└─I love how simplified the stories are when told by the "victims". Given your attitude in a simple article comment section it is highly likely you piss people off on a regular basis. Not saying that is reason to reject a good pull request, but as someone said egos can often be a problem.
[20:15:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:33] <exec> 08└─I think there's a reason TV shows are usually 30 or 60 minutes, and movies are usually 90-120, and it's not just because of business efficiency. For evening entertainment, an hour is frequently about as long as people want to sit down and watch something, or perhaps 2. For a shorter story, an hour i...
[20:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Create "Low-Fat" Pigs Using CRISPR - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:16:05] <exec> 08└─Just saying it didn't end well for the lard-os.
[20:17:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IBM Broke its Cloud by Letting Three Domain Names Expire - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:49] <exec> 08└─It should be possible to sign uptime contracts with the registrars that would guarantee this kind of thing could never happen.
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[21:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:51] <exec> 08└─Anything to avoid talking about why we have corridors of death running right next to our homes and businesses. If roads were something like deep canyons, hell even just six feet deep, the builders would be required by law to put a wall or fence alongside. But obviously that would be expensive so in...
[21:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:53] <exec> 08└─Georgia has the text and drive law, I saw a quote from a Georgia officer who enforced it on people who texted while stopped at traffic lights, presumably because it's easier to enforce there and still technically against the letter of the law - though mostly missing the spirit. Many times, laws like...
[21:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:55] <exec> 08└─For quite a while now, the Portland TriMet has placed ads on its busses urging the public not to talk on the phone while walking in front of busses. That actually happened a few years ago in Vancouver, Washington. Someone was killed.
[21:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:57] <exec> 08└─Legal publishers print books that have the diffs applied. It is damn near impossible to make sense of a complex bill. The revised code books only appear quite a long time after bills are passed.
[21:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:59] <exec> 08└─It is Hawaii, after all, I've noticed they take the whole English Law concept half-heartedly.
[21:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:01] <exec> 08└─This is a stupid law. Just as the parent post said, they are trying to protect people from their own stupidity. Driving laws are different... those laws protect otherwise innocent people from your stupidity. If someone's walking is impaired, chances are the only person they are going to end up hurti...
[21:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:04] <exec> 08└─I saw a quote from a Georgia officer who enforced it on people who texted while stopped at traffic lights, presumably because it's easier to enforce there and still technically against the letter of the law - though mostly missing the spirit.
[21:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:06] <exec> 08└─Funny, you can ride a motorcycle in Hawaii without a helmet.
[21:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:08] <exec> 08└─You know "jaywalking" was what they called it when they made a law to not cross at crossings. It's because "Jay" meant something like "Fool" in the early 1900's, but uh... less politely. I kind of thought something like this might get a similar term.
[21:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:10] <exec> 08└─A cop in chicago told me that they use the cell or belt laws to stop people when they believe they'll find something else by looking at the vehicle/license. It's a legal justification to stop someone who doesn't look quite right (insert your own profiling bias here). If you turn out to be clean and...
[21:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:13] <exec> 08└─At what point do you cross that line from just trying to help, into Dystopian Thriller?
[21:10:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 1427 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:23] <exec> 08└─There is no separation of business and state, and they're never has been. Ever. Corn biofuel is complete utter bullshit. All the experts and scientists say it is a poor biofuel compared to other avenues like switchgrass and vertical algae farms. What is had was excellent politics. Already fitting in...
[21:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:35] <exec> 08└─Your reading comprehension is appalling.
[21:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:36] <exec> 08└─You're basically saying that in the American society, property rights aren't strong enough.
[21:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:39] <exec> 08└─You imply that Government is handling externalities on behalf of the public, but here they are promoting a business scheme that exploits externalities! GTFO!
[21:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:41] <exec> 08└─What could your point possibly be, then?
[21:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:43] <exec> 08└─The market is working just fine, but it's not the fuel market or the corn market you should be looking at. It's the market for votes and politicians that is driving the policy.
[21:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 949 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:45] <exec> 08└─Too late. I was looking at windfarm land in Western Nebraska around 2004. At that time, you could get land for about $500 per acre, because wind power is speculative and unproven, and there was no market for the corn or wheat that could be grown on the land. In Western Nebraska, wind power is still...
[21:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:47] <exec> 08└─CA gas is 10% ethanol. I suppose it's better than MTBE that poisoned our watertable.
[21:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:06] <exec> 08└─Isn't one of the major points of 3D printing that you can make the thing fast locally?
[21:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:08] <exec> 08└─"local cnc hacker" is the best you could find between NY and Australia ?
[21:12:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 2259 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:11] <exec> 08└─Sure, but if they diversify, they can lower oil exports even more when oil prices are low. However, by developing a bunch of islands as tourist destinations and housing for the rich, they run the risk of overextending themselves like Dubai [wikipedia.org] has: https://en.wikipedia.org
[21:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:30] <exec> 08└─Perhaps I can get a position there building the new city. Wait, let me check with my wife to see if she minds moving to a country where she would be considered property. ....OK. Looks like we won't be doing that.
[21:13:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 1) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:14] <exec> 08└─Except that TFA doesn't tell us what items are changing at all. So good job, everyone, for all your comments which simply stoke up McDonald's name and you haven't really learned anything whatsoever. McD's PR wing which planted this release with Bloomberg must be proud.
[21:13:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:16] <exec> 08└─With all the surveillance that cameras on displays can do, couldn't they tell if you're reading the screen and not switch the ad until you move your eyes away?
[21:14:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:11] <exec> 08└─Well it isn't like I'll log on to dignify this garbage post with a reply, so I guess there you have it.
[21:14:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:12] <exec> 08└─I have no dog in this fight, but aristachu is a pederast, just so you know, but you knew that already. Still, you didn't hear that from me.
[21:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:14] <exec> 08└─THe things I get involved in are always software that I use. Sometimes (actually, most times) the projects I get involved in are just the small applications that I think would be great if they just had this "one extra bit" or if they already have something, but it's hard or non-intuitive to use. I t...
[21:17:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Obesity Can Increase Breast Cancer Aggressivness - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:17:40] <exec> 08└─Only reason I can think of off hand is they're also temporary. I'm not sure without looking (looking up formkey and reskey settings is a huge pain) how long they last but I know it's not meant to be hours. If you can reliably reproduce it, please do so and tell us how.
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[22:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:39] <exec> 08└─is trying to figure out a way to sell more of them...
[22:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:40] <exec> 08└─Hehehe. 5-inch. Hehehe.
[22:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:43] <exec> 08└─5-inch diameter dong.
[22:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Redundant) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:45] <exec> 08└─5-inch diameter gun. Hehehe, 5-inch diameter. 5-inch. Diameter. Hehehe.
[22:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:47] <exec> 08└─That comes with the opportunity cost of not giving each homeless person a $644,000.00 luxury home.
[22:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:49] <exec> 08└─That was the cover story of some defense rag after the Iraqis tore an American Navy ship a new asshole.
[22:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:52] <exec> 08└─Or just shy of $1,300 each for every person in the United States.
[22:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:17] <exec> 08└─The problem with that is that you can't really tell if someone is texting or adjusting their GPS system. It's not illegal to use GPS navigation.
[22:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyper [1525] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:18] <exec> 08└─Then all law changes need to be managed like code changes. If the file is changed then it can be viewed as a diff of just the lines changed, the old version, the new version and with the option of the new version diff showing changes from the old. Source control management systems have had this func...
[22:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:21] <exec> 08└─you can ride a motorcycle in Hawaii without a helmet.
[22:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:23] <exec> 08└─Consider that you might be driving a car, stupid kid with cellphone starts crossing, you swerve and crash into incoming truck. Or some other delicious meatbag mashing. Another aspect: One clever guy I know said: "I don't use smartphone nor headphones when I am walking. If I have to, I stop, shoulder...
[22:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:25] <exec> 08└─Some other politician's understanding was that "The Internet is a series of tubes." Happily, Lawrence Lessig set SCOTUS up with WordPerfect. Before that they used typewriters. IIRC they eventually started using Word, but had to - quite publicly - beg Microsoft to include footnotes in its word count....
[22:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:27] <exec> 08└─For each road and highway, here and there dig deep pits that are one lane ways and about thirty feet long. Line the bottoms of each hole with pungee sticks. When DUI collisions tick back up, fill in the old holes then dig new ones.
[22:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Electrons Controlled in Graphene Using Scanning Tunnelling Microscope - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:03] <exec> 08└─I at first misread the title as "Smart Tunneling Microscope", perhaps that is what they need to take advantage of graphene.
[22:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:12:00] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of room on the Monero train, what with the adaptive blocksize and all...
[22:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Saudi Arabia Planning $500 Billion Megacity and Business Zone - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:12:42] <exec> 08└─Do you think it will help their society get out of the middle ages?
[22:13:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chromium_One [4574] (Score: 1) 02 - 06McDonald's Rolls Out New Dollar Menu from Position of Strength - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:28] <exec> 08└─McD's can go straight to hell for the simple fact that they never, EVER got my order right. Place order, employee repeats it back correctly, receipt has something different on it, what's delivered neither matches what I ordered nor what's on the receipt. Order nothing but a large coffee and get hand...
[22:13:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03stretch611 [6199] 02 - 06After the DoJ Changes its "Gag Order" Policy, Microsoft Drops Lawsuit - 542 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:36] <exec> 08└─How long until they change the policy back. There is no telling how much it will be limited if they refuse to allow companies to discuss how often it was used before. If you were not allowed to say how many you received in the past, and still can't say how many you receive now, how can you know if t...
[22:16:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix to Raise Another $1.6bn to Finance New Films and Shows - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:21] <exec> 08└─The "stopping points" would just be mapped out as timestamps (kinda like how dvd-chapters are - see mkv). Also, since most movies (with the exception of an Andy Warhol all the movies I've seen are) tend to be divided into natural chapters this will be the natural point to split it. And it wouldn't t...
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[23:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:54] <exec> 08└─Such banknotes are still in circulation.
[23:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:55] <exec> 08└─It had me at "submarines". I mean, if you a deck mounted gun that can shoot high projectile velocities at submarines, wouldn't you get one?
[23:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Navy Plans Test of Hyper Velocity Projectiles Fired From 5-Inch Guns - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:57] <exec> 08└─That's my main question: how many rounds before you need to change the barrel ?
[23:10:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 1034 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:07] <exec> 08└─Do they have a similar law for people who text and drive, which is far, far more dangerous? And if they do, do they actually enforce it? (And how would they?) In fact, why are pedestrians being hit at all in crosswalks? It shouldn't matter what they're doing there or if they're paying attention: if...
[23:10:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jcross [4009] 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 661 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:14] <exec> 08└─Anything to avoid talking about why we have corridors of death running right next to our homes and businesses. If roads were something like deep canyons, hell even just six feet deep, the builders would be required by law to put a wall or fence alongside. But obviously that would be expensive so in...
[23:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 1184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:30] <exec> 08└─Except for yours truly wanting to know when the light rail started running again in the morning. A patrol car suddenly materialized out of nowhere. "I looked both ways!" failed to satisfy. One of the cops requested my ID. I gave them an expired passport. "Do you have a state issued ID?" "No." so the...
[23:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2, Offtopic) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:32] <exec> 08└─Other thing that helps when looking for a job: the ability to stay on topic.
[23:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:34] <exec> 08└─Confusingly, you do occasionally have to peel them off a tree.
[23:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 1168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:36] <exec> 08└─This ∆ conversation reminds me of below ¥ "Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone. Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zo...
[23:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:38] <exec> 08└─Well, there are a lot of places with some pretty strict laws around what you can do while driving. Here's an example of a great ad that ran in Australia about texting or being distracted while driving: https://www.gizmodo.com.au [gi...
[23:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:41] <exec> 08└─though with Honolulu and a crosswalk law, I could see plenty of ticket based enforcement going on.
[23:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:43] <exec> 08└─If they enforced such a law at the university I work at, they could make a lot off it. We have hoards of cell phone zombies that walk into traffic, into fixed objects and ram into others with abandon.
[23:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Honolulu's "Distracted Walking" Law Goes Into Effect - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe when the enforcement measure is worse than the (worst) outcome of the (outlawed) behaviour?
[23:11:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03unauthorized [3776] 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 295 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:02] <exec> 08└─They are. The wealthy buy the laws that suit them and everyone else has to eat their shit. Can you and are you willing to buy different laws? No? Then off to the corn fields serf! In before "but that's not real communism capitalism" and "but if governments didn't exist this would never happen".
[23:11:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 176 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:11] <exec> 08└─The market is working just fine, but it's not the fuel market or the corn market you should be looking at. It's the market for votes and politicians that is driving the policy.
[23:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06EPA Says It Won't Cut Biofuel Quotas After Corn States Push Back - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:15] <exec> 08└─This is a must-see for everyone: http://www.pbs.org [pbs.org] Yea, let's just put the EPAs biggest enemy in charge of it right? There isn't any EPA anymore for all intents and purposes. It's a fake government agency run by the energy industry, climate deniers, and...
[23:11:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tfried [5534] 02 - 06Australian-Made 3D-Printed Sternum and Rib Cage Implanted Into NY Patient - 488 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:31] <exec> 08└─Another major point of 3D printing is low volume production, with high precision. On the other side, I don't think this is the kind of thing you'll print in your generic reprap. Besides, getting the thing implanted was probably several thousand times the cost of flying it half-way around the world....
[23:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Will This Battle For The Soul Of Bitcoin Destroy It? - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:12:22] <exec> 08└─Sure. And you treat your bitcoins very badly by keeping them captured in wallets, chained to a block. Send your bitcoins to me, for salvation of their soul!
[23:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Manipulating Maintainers -- How to Ask for Help - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:14:46] <exec> 08└─Just split the post/question into four parts 1) Brief description/title 2) Describe what you wanted to do 3) Try to summarize what you think is relevant 4) Kitchen sink - provide everything you can think off that might be even remotely relevant (preferably as an attachment or link). Funnily enough t...
[23:15:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03legont [4179] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Singapore Will Stop Increasing Car and Motorcycle Numbers Starting February 2018 - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:15:51] <exec> 08└─$5000 penalty for hacking an e-bike http://www.straitstimes.com [straitstimes.com] Tough commies they are.
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