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[00:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:40] <exec> 08└─Yes. I've had one research collaborator who submitted a paper for review, got it delayed, then was research-sniped by another lab who published curiously-similar work to what they had submitted in their paper. Telling people early about your research makes it better; telling people early and publicl...
[00:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:41] <exec> 08└─Besides, they already put the paper up at the Cornell archive, don't they?
[00:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06VW Takes Another $3 Billion Hit Due to Diesel Scandal - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:59] <exec> 08└─More like 'We'll never get caught and if we do it'll be a fine less than our profits on the deal' kind of thinking.
[00:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:10:58] <exec> 08└─I remember there being rape and a vagina dentata in Snow Crash. I see that not making it to a one hour version, which btings me to a more important point: how do you adapt a novel like Snow Crash to half a full-length movie, except by disembowling the plot? Invalid form key: yyKuGURHfm I hate that m...
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[00:11:00] <exec> 08└─[OT] Rocksmith 2014 is deaf (and partially tone deaf) as far as I can tell. The original game hears my guitar just fine and agrees on the tuning with my pitch meter (and my untrained ear). RS2014 on the other hand imitates gramps from Simpsons - "turn it up, TURN IT UUUUP", and wants me to tune way...
[00:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:12:00] <exec> 08└─There's lots of little bugs living around your eyes right now.
[00:12:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA and Roscosmos Sign Joint Statement on the Development of a Lunar Space Station - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:12:21] <exec> 08└─Then you chuck monoliths.
[00:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai Calls on Apple to Activate Imaginary FM Chips - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:14:22] <exec> 08└─If you have a regulation you want, number one, we’re not gonna approve it because it’s already been approved probably in 17 different forms. But if we do, the only way you have a chance is we have to knock out two regulations for every new regulation. So if there’s a new regulation, they have...
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[01:09:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gringer [962] 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 425 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:28] <exec> 08└─Yes. I've had one research collaborator who submitted a paper for review, got it delayed, then was research-sniped by another lab who published curiously-similar work to what they had submitted in their paper. Telling people early about your research makes it better; telling people early and publicl...
[01:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:31] <exec> 08└─These are all good points, and I think this is may be even something to be encouraged, but it's pretty clear to me this should be author's choice. There are different kinds of peer review, and different opinions about their relative efficacy. There are some total wierdos, like yours truly, who think...
[01:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:33] <exec> 08└─This presupposes that there is any trust in scientists.
[01:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:35] <exec> 08└─If it's out in the open, anybody can review it.
[01:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:10] <exec> 08└─For some reason (that I think is still not known) it makes the animals grow more quickly.
[01:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:51] <exec> 08└─That's funny, I thought the Baroque Cycle, which did have its moments, was too clever for its own good. Snow Crash, The Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon, and even Zodiac I enjoyed.
[01:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:53] <exec> 08└─I'm surprised nobody ever tried to adapt David Brin's Uplift novels. Startide Rising is one of my favorite sci-fi books. Certainly the special effects are there now to do it justice.
[01:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:55] <exec> 08└─Really? Why would they bother? Karma in this community doesn't give you much. Or is this happening because Slashdot is still having troubles and its trolls are foraging further afield?
[01:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:57] <exec> 08└─Filksinging should definitely enjoy a resurgence.
[01:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:59] <exec> 08└─Seems William Gibson never did have much luck with having his stuff adapted to film. Johnny Mnemonic had an awesome script, but that's all it had going for it; everything else about the production sucked. New Rose Hotel was just plain weird, and was an odd choice out of his bibliography to make a mo...
[01:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:01] <exec> 08└─I don't understand. What makes you think they'll adapt the entire novel into the first episode? What do you think they're going to do with the rest of the series?
[01:11:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:39] <exec> 08└─You stick an animal into some little cage and sometimes feed it with whatever industrial commercial crap.
[01:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:02] <exec> 08└─Cats make excellent companions. They interact with you, but they're not so needy they become a burden. They work well in rural locations, and in urban ones. There were long lonely stretches when having a cat kept me sane, because there was at least someone happy to see me when I got home. It doesn't...
[01:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:03] <exec> 08└─Cats are good that way. Give them a litter box and they take care of their own business.
[01:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:05] <exec> 08└─No, not just adolescents. Not everyone wants children, you know. Not everyone will suddenly like children after having one or more, either.
[01:13:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 475 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:13:34] <exec> 08└─I understand the importance of establishing a human presence - so we can "do our things" but, when I read the article title I was thinking more along the lines of making Life interplanetary - like: microbes, plants, animals, and everything that it's going to take to make a sustainable ecosystem. If...
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[01:13:44] <exec> 08└─Or... terraform. Earth is a closed ecosystem for all intents and purposes: input: solar radiation. output: infra-red re-radiation back to space. Anything else is trivial.
[01:14:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai Calls on Apple to Activate Imaginary FM Chips - 722 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:12] <exec> 08└─Since it was AM 1170, 50,000 watts, on a tall steel tower your toaster was probably picking it up up 73.1, 146.5, 585,, 1170, 2340, 4680, and associated multiples and fractions. The tower itself re-radiated fractionals all up and down the spectrum. Its amazing the amount of power AM stations put out...
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[02:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 758 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:42] <exec> 08└─I had my stuff stolen. I was taking a class in logic that was taught by a professor whose PhD mentor was one of the authors of the book. We hit an unanswered question, and I came up with the solution. My professor and worked on writing a paper and were just about ready to submit it, when my profess...
[02:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:09:44] <exec> 08└─It's always been in public. If your question is, should researchers go to the press and make claims, or should the press look at some preliminary paper and write about it, that answer is usually "no". In the end, the public needs to learn to vet the information they consume, whether that source is r...
[02:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:20] <exec> 08└─It is also a great example of why NFKC normalization should be applied to posts.
[02:11:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tfried [5534] 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 108 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:11:54] <exec> 08└─An added benefit of having pets is, the pet is often an early indicator of how friendly a stranger might be.
[02:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:50] <exec> 08└─I'm not really sure [coolcherrycream.com].
[02:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:13:51] <exec> 08└─I understand the importance of establishing a human presence - so we can "do our things" but, when I read the article title I was thinking more along the lines of making Life interplanetary - like: microbes, plants, animals, and everything that it's going to take to make a sustainable ecosystem.
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[02:14:20] <exec> 08└─Not so much. GPS is 1575.42 MHz and 1227.60 MHz; Cellular is 800-900 MHz-ish; FM broadcast is 88-108 (US... slightly different elsewhere.) Wifi and bluetooth are also up in the GHz range, well above FM broadcast. Only the GHz range stuff transmits, and interference is almost always harmonically rela...
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[03:12:48] <exec> 08└─I can fill in Step 6 for you: 6. Put it 'in the cloud' and charge your customers again for it
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[04:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:41] <exec> 08└─People look at these papers in a very wrong way. Publishing one is a final project someone did to graduate, along with everything that entails.
[04:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03leftover [2448] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:18] <exec> 08└─Wow. If true, that will deserve a lynch mob of historic proportions. From a broader perspective this would be yet another example of corporate bullshit being paraded around as "science". Farmers will be seriously pissed at being misled and they already have pitchforks.
[04:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:20] <exec> 08└─There is a sportsball and ding dongs culture in Canada? If it is even happening there we need to consider there is something natural that makes people like this type of thing. Perhaps they are stuck in "winter is coming" mode all the time. In that case the problem is to get them out of that mode. I...
[04:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:22] <exec> 08└─NFKC? Not For Kentucky Chicken or what?
[04:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:10:24] <exec> 08└─http://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ [unicode.org]
[04:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:12:14] <exec> 08└─I tolerate pets for the sake of my friendships, but I cannot really stand them for too long; yet, despite my antipathy, animals seem to cozy up to me much more quickly than they do most other people, or so I have been told again and again.
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[05:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:30] <exec> 08└─... when did you say the next season of Dallas [wikipedia.org] is scheduled? (in other words, why should I give even the smallest fick possible about Uber coprorate in-fights?)
[05:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03rylyeh [6726] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:37] <exec> 08└─Damm! Of course, this all must be done properly but just - Damm!
[05:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:39] <exec> 08└─It's a blow. At least there is no way to delay the Jan. 1, 2019 New Horizons flyby of 2014 MU69 [wikipedia.org].
[05:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 1736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:54] <exec> 08└─The point of journals at some time may have been able being able to get your ideas to the public. But they haven't served that role for a very long time. Now their main role is a filtering mechanism that ensures some degree of value and endorsement of what is stated. Many fields become increasingly...
[05:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:55] <exec> 08└─Many fields become increasingly esoteric
[05:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 1281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:58] <exec> 08└─I am impressed whenever I come across a paper that explains everything (in a more complex field) in plain English. Some papers also have a simpler summary of the contents after the abstract. It doesn't seem like the public is harmed by preprints. The very few people and scientists interested in the...
[05:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:39] <exec> 08└─Well, I'm not really certain about these things, but I believe the most common way to reduce antimicrobial use is to use less antimicrobial stuff.
[05:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:40] <exec> 08└─Your response does not address the "how" of "edible microbe production" reducing antibacterials in food animal production. Seems like yet another shallow and empty response containing zero substance. [soylentnews.org]
[05:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:42] <exec> 08└─Antimicrobial substances kill at least one type of microbe, while antibacterial substances kill bacteria. Just because something is an antimicrobial, that doesn't mean it is an antibiotic. For example, Nitazoxanide will cure your Giardia, but won't do anything beyond placebo for your Staph infection...
[05:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 905 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:10:44] <exec> 08└─Antimicrobial use alters the gut flora in many species, which causes animals to digest food differently. Now, many of them have been banned and you are having a harder time finding vets that will prescribe them (without some, ahem, persuasion). Of course, it is now getting to the point where non-lot...
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[05:11:00] <exec> 08└─Unless you're living in the middle of nowhere and don't have a suitably large community with diverse interests then you will probably find that can still do all that; you just need to get involved with the right group of like-minded people for whatever appeals (or you think might appeal and want to...
[05:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:11:31] <exec> 08└─You can buy individual shows and movies. In a new privacy tab, go to amazon.com. Click Departments -> Amazon Video -> Rent or Buy. If you buy a season of TV then you'll get an email when a new episode drops. Usually the next morning after the show "aired". I have several shows through there: Rick a...
[05:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:37] <exec> 08└─If you don't clean out that litterbox everyday, there's going to be problems.
[05:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:12:38] <exec> 08└─Your dog thinks you are the greatest thing that ever happened. How can you not want someone like that in your life? If you don't believe it, lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for a few hours. When you open it up guess which one is happy to see you.
[05:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:14:21] <exec> 08└─If there is any existing life to contaminate on Mars, it is probably locked up in a subsurface ocean, not the topsoil where we have been dumping rovers and may try to grow some potatoes in 2040. Just like with Enceladus, Europa, Ceres, and other places, we need to drill baby drill if we want a good...
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[06:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:36] <exec> 08└─It's a Silicon Valley power struggle. The same firm that wants to oust Kalanick thinks Uber will be worth over $100 billion [techcrunch.com] soon. Forget Dallas, maybe Mike Judge will write it into a Silicon Valley [wikipedia.org] script.
[06:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:37] <exec> 08└─Forget Dallas, maybe Mike Judge will write it into a Silicon Valley [wikipedia.org] script.
[06:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:40] <exec> 08└─Travis Kalanick could use a High colonic [highcolonic.org].
[06:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:42] <exec> 08└─I think the whole story is a good reminder of the dangers of 'investors' for everybody looking to startup their own businesses. Travis brought Uber from a 'yeah, whatever man' to a worldwide business that's not only reshaped transportation forever but also shown the viability of at least semi-decent...
[06:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 842 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:08] <exec> 08└─I do see you point. But I'm afraid we might get over-run with half-finished WIP (work in progress) papers if we go down this path. The WIP work is for colleagues and friends to read and critique. Sure I guess if you don't have either of those then it might be what you have to resort to, after all no...
[06:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:54] <exec> 08└─I farm and trust me, they get way bigger, way faster. Last time I checked my non-AM to my neighbors AM-fed, he gets 5 days or so off maturity and some of his birds are literally so large they have difficulty walking.
[06:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 1296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:14:31] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure why you think there would be no variety. That may or may not be the initial case but it would rapidly change. And in any case by the time it's possible for more 'regular' individuals to buy their way there, there'd certainly be a great variety. As an example, even BudWeiser is currently...
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[06:14:33] <exec> 08└─I think the main reason we're treating Martian life, or the potential thereof, so specially is because it'd like our first baby. By the time we find it, and then more, and more, and more - we're just annoyed at how long it's taking to get this one out of the house and onto college. I do not think th...
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[07:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:31] <exec> 08└─Buy some meat and get the DNA sequenced. It's more likely that these are ordinary pigs fed massive doses of steroids or growth hormone. Still very wrong but with far less novelty value.
[07:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:32] <exec> 08└─Whatever, I couldn't care less about some bourgeois screams of cruelty, so long as it tastes good.
[07:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:35] <exec> 08└─I don't care what it's made of or how it tastes, so long as it's nourishing and edible.
[07:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:47] <exec> 08└─Travis brought Uber from a 'yeah, whatever man' to a worldwide business
[07:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 1531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:48] <exec> 08└─It's not necessarily inherently about exposure and publicity. The idea is very simple so we take it for granted that that's what decided it. But the reality is that nobody else had yet chosen to pursue this idea in any real fashion. It's a lot like most other startups. Lots of people have good ideas...
[07:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:50] <exec> 08└─But the reality is that nobody else had yet chosen to pursue this idea in any real fashion.
[07:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:52] <exec> 08└─There's a lot of money in the world today, but not so many Travis Kalanicks.
[07:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:02] <exec> 08└─Ariane 5 has a 95.7% success rate. That's pretty good for rocket launches, but the James Webb has been in development since 1996. That's a long time to spend on something that could go BOOM 1/20 times. I am glad that they are minimizing the problems they can control. We don't want any extra problems...
[07:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:21] <exec> 08└─Totally agree - who can be bothered to read all the tit-for-tat garbage? Save it for your blog, please. Also, you can imagine the citations (and bloated citation counts) when every cunt wants to cite every turd they ever squeezed out to try to establish priority 5 minutes before someone else did it....
[07:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:23] <exec> 08└─The thing with pre-prints is that invariably one (or more) containing mistakes float around the Interwebs forever. Case in point - I submitted an article, it was accepted and pre-print went online before proofing. During proof I found a horrible error in the equations, which I was able to fix. Howev...
[07:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:11:09] <exec> 08└─Finger lickin, finger lickin, finger lickin... Oh wait
[07:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:13:04] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis [wikipedia.org] is worth a read.
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[08:09:34] <exec> 08└─Because none of our other farm animals have been bred to their purpose. I mean, wild buffalo all produce 20 liters of milk per day, every day. Wild birds lay an egg every day. Etc. Heck, it's no different for plants. Wheat, or corn, or beans, or anything else that we eat is the result of selective b...
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[08:09:36] <exec> 08└─The faster white man figures out factory-grown meat, the better. In a century, white man (or the fake white man, known as the Jew) will finally perfect factory-grown meat, without the trappings of a sentient entity, and we can finally move past this nonsense.
[08:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:38] <exec> 08└─Anti Semitic , --check Vegetarian leanings, --check OMG It's Hitler!
[08:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:40] <exec> 08└─The OP acknowledged power to the Jews, above all other than the so-called "white man". I don't think you can get away with calling the OP anti-Semitic. Most Jews I've met, in America anyway, do consider themselves to be white, but now I wonder. Are Jews white?
[08:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:42] <exec> 08└─these intelligent, playful, sociable animals' throats are slit and their bodies are turned into pork chops or sausages.
[08:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:44] <exec> 08└─Normal farm pigs already grow to "enormous sizes", get slaughtered and eaten. You can see from the photos these muscular pigs aren't unusually huge for pigs. They are just unusually muscled. The real issue is whether this is actually from a mutation or from illegal hormone/drug usage. The secondary...
[08:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:47] <exec> 08└─Are Jews white?
[08:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:49] <exec> 08└─Most Jews I've met, in America anyway, do consider themselves to be white, but now I wonder. Are Jews white?
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[08:09:51] <exec> 08└─What? No one has seen it? Better than Snowpiercer and Oldboy, all rolled into one. Tilda Swinton, Jake Gyllenhaal, and some young Korean actress. OH, and a gigantic genetically engineered pig. Happy ending, though not the one American Soldiers stationed in Korea are thinking of. No one would want...
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[08:09:53] <exec> 08└─Whites think they are Christian, and that Christians are the chosen people; Jews, irritatingly, scoff at Christians. I don't know where you get "Jews actually are superior". Up until about 250 years ago, most Jews were Sephardic (e.g., not much different from the gypsies). Around that time, German J...
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[08:10:09] <exec> 08└─I like that you equate 30 cents with 30 centimeters. Hopefuly no measurement nazi will come to explain that a foot is not 30 cm.
[08:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:11] <exec> 08└─Sorry, down under the lowest coin is ¢5. I know that ¢35 is closer to ¢33, but I didn't want to give the impression we stroke rich already. (grin)
[08:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 1550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:13] <exec> 08└─If you have no money then starting a product that relies on critical mass is obviously a terrible idea. I think people have no clue what entrepreneurs go through to start companies. Kalanick was not some rich boy, nor was he a smooth talker that just convinced a ton of people to give him lots of mon...
[08:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aiwarrior [1812] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:24] <exec> 08└─While i agree with you, I also think that a lot of the time spent is one-time effort, which in case of a boom, would not need to be repeated. Of course it would delay perhaps 1 or 2 years but it would not start all over again. Regardless, go go James Webb
[08:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 2261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:45] <exec> 08└─I see you made an effort to think about this, but I disagree. Peer review wasn't really established until the sixties and seventies. It was certainly quite rare before the second world war, see here this bit about Einstein in 1936: http://physicstoday.scitation.org [scita...
[08:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AMD Expected to Release Ryzen CPUs on a 12nm Process in Q1 2018 - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:10:52] <exec> 08└─You'll note that NOBODY cares.
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[08:10:54] <exec> 08└─Sunday = slowday
[08:15:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:15:15] <exec> 08└─Now factor in the issue that Mars has 1/3rd Earth's gravity and so there will be vastly less energy consumption, meaning you need consume even less.
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[09:09:40] <exec> 08└─You must be a Soylent fan.
[09:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:42] <exec> 08└─Agreed. All over the civilized(?) world hogs are bred for no other purpose, but to be butchered and cut up into pork chops, bacon, rendered into lard, the real waste products put into dog food - this IS how we live. PETA routinely gets their panties wadded up over stupid crap. Hogs, chickens, cows,...
[09:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:09:44] <exec> 08└─I don't know about that. They might be even tougher to eat than old boiled owl.
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[09:09:46] <exec> 08└─The only way Jews could be superior is if they were part German? I take it you do not know that many pure Germans. Take Arnold, and just know that he is above average intelligence. Germans are not too smart, in fact, really dumb. Defeated by the French, for God's sake, more than once? If anything,...
[09:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:05] <exec> 08└─Are you asking "who shot Travis?" I could wait a rather long time to find out. The more important question is why is not the entire crew in jail for racketeering and exploiting workers? And for having killed so many, just so many, kittens.
[09:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:38] <exec> 08└─but it's pretty clear to me this should be author's choice.
[09:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:40] <exec> 08└─I suspect I was the one who inspired CoDel. Everyone and dog was barking up the wrong tree about buffers being too large: https://dl.acm.org [acm.org] See Dave Taht's post about "byte queue limits" - limiting queues by bytes: The publication deadline...
[09:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:42] <exec> 08└─Well.. a while ago I read a horrible published work because the reviewers did not check (or understand) the math (I talked to them). It should not have passed a good review, but it did, and I like to believe a preprint would have been better.
[09:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:44] <exec> 08└─You are aware that the very computer you are using to post on SoylentNews would not have been possible if not for quite a few theories developed, tested and published by scientists?
[09:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:13:28] <exec> 08└─Just for the fun of it, of course. You should try it some time!! It'll drive your mate crazy, too!
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[09:13:29] <exec> 08└─Mmm-hmmm - I agree that a good double-blind study would be great. One anecdote for you. Met a guy years ago, with whom I worked, off and on, on several construction jobs. I kinda liked him. Not a best buddy or anything, but I thought pretty highly of him, both from a professional point of view, and...
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[09:14:12] <exec> 08└─Don't do it if you're a black guy though. e.g. "Hi 911, I heard some shots fired outside my house and there's someone dressed as a cop outside too." Cops come to your house with plenty of guns, bash your door in and shoot you dead. Turns out you were holding a phone, not a gun. Cops involved assigne...
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[10:09:48] <exec> 08└─Humans (at least for now) are the top predator on this planet. In fact, if it weren't for sliced/cooked meat [sciencemag.org] and smaller jaws/chewing muscles [nytimes.com], we wouldn't have the big brains that make us top predators. While it's true that, given our current knowledge of nutrition, a...
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[10:09:49] <exec> 08└─I don't think an aspirin would help against the squealing. (I know, insensitive joke, but still funny)
[10:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:12:19] <exec> 08└─I'd love to see an Uplift adaptation, just to see Andy Serkis play a dolphin.
[10:15:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:15:17] <exec> 08└─And that 150 tons of food would eventually become 150 tons of sewage & C02, which could theoreticlaly be converted into 150 tons of plant food, which can become 150 tons of crops. It could be worth a hell of a lot more than 45 man-years of food.
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[10:15:19] <exec> 08└─Lots of great information and sources. Thanks! A couple of things immediately stood out to me. In the first PDF from NASA, they state astronauts use an average of 3,500 calories a day. Then the response on quora (an apparent employee of NASA) suddenly changes that to 2600 (+/- 600) calories. That is...
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[10:15:21] <exec> 08└─Everything else has answers that are known, though they may need engineering development.
[10:15:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:15:23] <exec> 08└─My only thought is that they counted a shipment of water in there. 1 L = 1 kg. 2-3 liters per day consumption seems to be typical. So now you are down to 3.6 kg of food per day. This page [nasa.gov] says: When astronauts travel into space, NASA scientists determine how much food will be needed for e...
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[11:09:37] <exec> 08└─Because none of our other farm animals have been bred to their purpose. I mean, wild buffalo all produce 20 liters of milk per day, every day. Wild birds lay an egg every day. Etc. Heck, it's no different for plants. Wheat, or corn, or beans, or anything else that we eat is the result of selective b...
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[11:09:54] <exec> 08└─these intelligent, playful, sociable animals' throats are slit and their bodies are turned into pork chops or sausages.
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[11:09:55] <exec> 08└─That's why it's safer to keep your own animals, if you can. Corporations are not to be trusted with important matters.
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[11:09:57] <exec> 08└─Leave it to PETA to suggest giving an anticoagulant (aspirin) prior to castration or other dismemberment (tails).
[11:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Expected to Release Ryzen CPUs on a 12nm Process in Q1 2018 - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:11:01] <exec> 08└─Of course nobody cares. We all just bought a Ryzen CPU when they came out and it's way too early for an upgrade.
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[11:11:03] <exec> 08└─Create a 200 dollar sku with a PSP that can be either jumpered or efused into unsigned/user signed firmware mode, and sell it to the 'control our own computers' crowd. Unlike the TALOS II, this would actually have a chance of netting significant sales, since 200 dollars would put it as an impulse bu...
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[11:12:33] <exec> 08└─The Baroque Cycle would be perfect if they were willing to commit to it for a few seasons, and to the budget. There is a lot of stuff going down in it, and the majority of it would make fantastic television. Cryptonomicon was too much about that thing they were on about. And the other people who wer...
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[11:12:34] <exec> 08└─Andy Serkis would be a great choice for an uplifted dolphin or the chimpanzee, whose role, if I recall correctly, was just as important.
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[11:12:36] <exec> 08└─> I'm optimistic. I'd like to think Niven at least wouldn't allow rudderless relativism and leftist anti-intellectual hate into something based on his writing. Not sure how they'll treat the Pak protectors then - since they built the damn thing. Either you are against them, anti-intellectual hate, o...
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[11:13:46] <exec> 08└─Buy better kitty litter. Everyday for one cat is a lot.
[11:15:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:39] <exec> 08└─If you want the Mars gravity research, you have to send people or at least mammals to Mars.
[11:15:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:15:40] <exec> 08└─"we need to drill baby drill if we want a good chance of finding life." That's what she said.
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[11:15:43] <exec> 08└─Yeah that could be the difference, but it would be be rather misleading. Water is heavily recycled precisely for that reason. Even urine is reprocessed into drinking water!
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[12:10:06] <exec> 08└─That's right. It's just a matter of how cruel, or how low we are prepared to go. That's the issue here.
[12:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:08] <exec> 08└─The avant-garde of "civilization" in Australia: pigs [wikipedia.org]. The effects: As of 1987, feral pigs are considered to be the most important mammalian pest of Australian agriculture.
[12:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 2984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:10] <exec> 08└─One of the big draws of religions is that each one teaches *it* is the *true* faith, its devotees are the Chosen People of God. Anyone who has read Stanley Milgram's "Obedience to Authority" knows how dangerous this meme can get if one comes to the belief he has been ordered to do something by God....
[12:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:12] <exec> 08└─PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ?
[12:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:32] <exec> 08└─explain that a foot is not 30.48 cm.
[12:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:44] <exec> 08└─Shame they couldn't afford to build two of everything. That way they'd have a backup.
[12:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:11] <exec> 08└─See, this is exactly the kind of garbage we'll have to filter through when reading everyone's articles.
[12:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:13] <exec> 08└─In fact, that sounds like your average scientific paper. Barely any novel content, barely supported by evidence and 12 authors, barely any of whom contributed.
[12:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:11:15] <exec> 08└─What have scientists ever done for us?
[12:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:12:07] <exec> 08└─All this would create a financial incentive for farmers to not use the stuff unless they actually need it.
[12:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:13:00] <exec> 08└─Downton Abbey? My wife watches that drama series. I find the woodwork in the sets amazing so I also watch a bit. Aside from the very exotic setting its just a soap opera. I would imagine before we had broadcast soap operas, people into gossip turned the whole world into a soap opera which might have...
[12:15:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03coolgopher [1157] 02 - 06Bryan Lunduke Joins the W3C - 140 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:26] <exec> 08└─Didn't EFF already resign from the W3C? Not to disparage this guy, but if the EFF couldn't make their voice heard, what chance does he have?
[12:15:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Bryan Lunduke Joins the W3C - 497 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:15:32] <exec> 08└─Some other oldies (some of them on about 10th page on Google search) Keeping the sources "hostage" [linuxquestions.org] once it was clear his "Open Source by subscription" is not working.A "torrent page" [casinokf.com] listing the GPL-ed source (between June July 2012) - seeding status unknownQuite...
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[13:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:09:28] <exec> 08└─You are all cows! Cows go moooooooooooo! Mooooo cows moooo! Moooooo say the cows! You dirty cows!!
[13:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:08] <exec> 08└─Wait. Does this mean that Aryans aren't white?
[13:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:41] <exec> 08└─First rule of government spending: why buy one when you can have two for twice the price? Otoh, in that movie, having two for twice the price saved the day.
[13:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:03] <exec> 08└─Only action point left: tell the consumer.
[13:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:05] <exec> 08└─I am not so sure. I tried to make the point that changing antibiotics policy would be neutral to the meat industry (if we ignore the antibiotics industry for the moment). In this view, the meat industry should be open to restrictions on antibiotics use. Even stronger: they would probably benefit fin...
[13:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:12:58] <exec> 08└─We've already seen him play an uplifted Chimp. Wouldn't want him to get typecast.
[13:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:13:00] <exec> 08└─How do you feel about somebody's testing their bot?
[13:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bryan Lunduke Joins the W3C - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:15:36] <exec> 08└─Didn't EFF already resign from the W3C? Not to disparage this guy, but if the EFF couldn't make their voice heard, what chance does he have?
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[14:09:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:31] <exec> 08└─It's only difficult for people to understand because this is the 3 door version of the question.
[14:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:32] <exec> 08└─i mod'd funny. Did this in grad school...
[14:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:34] <exec> 08└─I think we desperately need a new terminology to use that more explicitly/emphatically includes what you are conditioning on. Picking one out of three doors is totally different from picking one, then the host telling you one of three is the wrong answer, then picking another one. Also, it is no sur...
[14:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 2575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:36] <exec> 08└─Modded as funny but the 3 doors is the lowest odds of winning at merely 2/3 but with more doors the odds of winning approach 100% if you switch. For example lets play "Guess VLM's credit card number" which is a 16 digit number. The odds of you guessing it off the top of yer head are essentially zero...
[14:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:39] <exec> 08└─Correction, there's IQ, trivia knowledge, and blood caffeine level, and a small value for the latter leads to weird post editing mistakes. Now given a first mostly random guess of which SN post is post, and a giant shitload of corrections that eliminate almost all the other posts, leaving your first...
[14:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:41] <exec> 08└─S.Peter opens a gate for the second time, and a red guy with the face of a goat is there saying "Good fucking choice, mr. Hall! now you know how your guests felt all these years!"
[14:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03halcyon1234 [1082] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:50] <exec> 08└─May your phone a payment device! You can pay with your phone! WOW your phone can be used to pay at your favorite retailer! Who needs a piece of dumb plastic anymore? Because what could possibly go wrong with all your payment info being directly attached to an always-on, internet-connected, general...
[14:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03cosurgi [272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:52] <exec> 08└─OK, so anybody knows if a regular user of androind (let's say samsung) has some possibility of upgrading phone to remove this? Does there even exist an android version release with this vulnerability removed?
[14:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Woosh [6715] (Score: 1) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:54] <exec> 08└─It was patched about a year ago according to the article. Also it says if you're running version 5.1.1 or earlier you're probably still susceptible.
[14:10:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03boltronics [580] 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 103 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:29] <exec> 08└─That's right. It's just a matter of how cruel, or how low we are prepared to go. That's the issue here.
[14:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:35] <exec> 08└─bacon++
[14:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:37] <exec> 08└─This was my first reaction - "I saw bigger pigs at the state fair, and I don't particularly live in a farming state." They are unusually muscled - but even then it is only exploiting a naturally-occurring phenomenon (see: Belgian Blue Cows... which I have also eaten). Call me a terrible person, but...
[14:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:39] <exec> 08└─This meme is just as dangerous in an ignorant public as a computer virus is among unpatched machines.
[14:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:00] <exec> 08└─No no no! You don't understand, man. These people were just incredibly lucky and if I had the same luck I'd be where they are now, but just like, SO MUCH MORE socially conscious and racially diverse and gender-neutral and vegan-positive and stuff. Work ethic, discipline, and drive have really nothin...
[14:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:13] <exec> 08└─Otoh, in that movie, having two for twice the price saved the day.
[14:11:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:43] <exec> 08└─stop poking the bare.
[14:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03sgleysti [56] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Expected to Release Ryzen CPUs on a 12nm Process in Q1 2018 - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:11:55] <exec> 08└─the TALOS II is more like a mid-range used car purchase for the average middle class westerner.
[14:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06VW Takes Another $3 Billion Hit Due to Diesel Scandal - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:12:07] <exec> 08└─There is no fine that's too great for these monsters. PEOPLE HAVE UNDOUBTEDLY DIED from this pollution. Absolutely disgusting.
[14:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:37] <exec> 08└─I always thought that Neal needed to get a co-writer to do the endings with him. His books are great for almost all of the way through, then it's "ok how can I wrap all this up in 20 pages".
[14:13:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:39] <exec> 08└─Heechee saga is pretty great stuff. I seem to remember it spiraling into some survivor-remorse stuff though and I put it down.
[14:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:13:41] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but a cowboy fighting his way with a rifle through the heart of Shanghai to the water front makes for a pretty good ending in my book.
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[15:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:33] <exec> 08└─Sorry I don't have any answers for you, but I have been curious about this myself. In my experience, I'm able to use a VPN just fine in Linux (Mint, KDE edition), but the problem is that ALL my traffic goes over it. So that's great if you want to hide certain activitorries, but then it also slows do...
[15:09:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dbe [1422] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:35] <exec> 08└─This website has a good list and compare them with objectives criterias https://thatoneprivacysite.net [thatoneprivacysite.net] Not sure how updated it is, but it gives a good starting point to find the right VPN for you. Cheers -dbe
[15:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:37] <exec> 08└─If you want to restrict applications to a specific network interface, you should read up on network namespaces. You could run a VPN in one network namespace and any applications you start in that namespace, can then use that VPN, while the rest of your network works as before.
[15:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgsoynews [1235] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:39] <exec> 08└─The BIG problem in your scenario is that it's so hard to validate which VPN providers are serious (technically) and reliable (not selling your data on the side). Even worse, a serious one may very well be bought tomorrow by another company with the usual casualties: privacy & trust are the first to...
[15:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:52] <exec> 08└─Yep I thought the second pick had a 1/2 prob but I can see why it is 2/3 in retrospect. Still better than 1/3 of the first pick. So, it is obvious which is the best choice, namely blackmailing the meatbag who knows where the prize is.
[15:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:53] <exec> 08└─so many PhDs can't figure this out
[15:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 1804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:55] <exec> 08└─Nah. If Erdős didn't spot the "N doors as N->infinity" case then it ain't gonna convince the great unwashed. Even if there are N doors - I pick one, Monty reveals a goat, there are N-1 doors left, so the probability of the car being behind any of the doors -including the one I picked - is 1/(N-1) -...
[15:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:58] <exec> 08└─This has nothing to do with guessing any value (like your credit card number), only selecting one of a limited set’s elements - in this case three doors. If there are three doors, and you can guess only one door for your final choice, then your odds are one in three. If you can change your guess -...
[15:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:09] <exec> 08└─(code which also mutates at the whim of whoever controls the dev account via auto-updates)
[15:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 1101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:10] <exec> 08└─I love my Nexus 6P from Google. First in line for OS and security updates. No delays from either the OEM or the mobile network operator. I just got Oreo last month, which was the last promised OS upgrade from Google. (Not that they couldn't potentially provide another OS upgrade.) I'm also promised...
[15:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:12] <exec> 08└─This isn't quite so bad with Apple Pay, because the card details are stored in the secure element, where they can't be accessed by code running on the application processor, and where they will simply sign transactions. Malware that compromises the iOS kernel could potentially create a load of fraud...
[15:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:14] <exec> 08└─That's another thing about Google's phones -- no preinstalled non-removable bloatware.
[15:10:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 774 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:42] <exec> 08└─Agreed. All over the civilized(?) world hogs are bred for no other purpose, but to be butchered and cut up into pork chops, bacon, rendered into lard, the real waste products put into dog food - this IS how we live. PETA routinely gets their panties wadded up over stupid crap. Hogs, chickens, cows,...
[15:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:58] <exec> 08└─Meat-eater here, so I'm not particularly trying to shoot you down , but I have to say that "it's what nature intended" and "that's how it's always been" are really crappy arguments for anything.
[15:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:59] <exec> 08└─Even if you are a fruitarian, you will be selectively planting seeds that deliver the food you want to eat. That's what agriculture is all about. Don't forget weeding. Your garden probably isn't going to do well unless you maintain it to keep the "weeds" out, since the plants which are edible don't...
[15:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 1444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:02] <exec> 08└─If we are not watchful, or "leaders" will sell our souls to enrich themselves at our expense. Also known as "Tragedy of the Commons". Interesting post, however I have to disagree on the "Tragedy of the Commons" bit you have here: that's the wrong term. The term you're looking for here is "corruption...
[15:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:04] <exec> 08└─It's just a matter of how cruel, or how low we are prepared to go. That's the issue here.
[15:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 397 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:26] <exec> 08└─Ideas are a dime a dozen. Everybody's got them. Money on the other hand is a scarce good. If the SV dreamers don't want to deal with the investor's wishes, they can try and get a loan from the bank. No bank is giving out loans for high flying ideas? Then the founder can try to grow the business, pro...
[15:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:10] <exec> 08└─We don't want some high priests convene behind closed doors to "make science". If some fools think openness means science is untrustworthy, that is their problem. It's exactly the opposite. Some smart people might get grasp of how it all works. Life is not black and white but complex. Also scientist...
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[15:12:23] <exec> 08└─I've heard that Intel has its own problems in this regard. What do you use for a computer?
[15:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06VW Takes Another $3 Billion Hit Due to Diesel Scandal - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:12:36] <exec> 08└─Germany has once again been beaten back after a very successful offense.
[15:16:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Police Chief Takes To Facebook To Complain About A Journalist Committing Journalism - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:16:02] <exec> 08└─The public must be able to trust that the police aren't worse than the criminals they are supposed to protect us from. The media should be instrumental in keeping the police honest. It's sad that anyone should have to keep the police honest. Honesty is something that was once taken for granted with...
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[15:17:17] <exec> 08└─I think by the time we are actually colonizing (growing crops on) Mars, we are going to be too concerned about our own problems on Earth to care about any indigenous savages that might need to be relocated to make room for our settlements. At least that's how it has always gone in the past.
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[16:09:36] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, Facebook, Google, Amazon etc. do profiling by IP address. I have found that ads served to my IP change a lot when someone with their own computer uses my network to go to some website I don't normally go to, or buy something. So while it may not be as much of a concern for people "dox...
[16:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:37] <exec> 08└─Yup, you nailed the bigger problem. Use all the VPNs you want, your browser will betray all of them. And you aren't even safe doing what you are, since the browser fingerprinting problem will still be able to bite you. So you make three VPNS, how do you know what traffic needs to go to which one? Ig...
[16:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Shire [5824] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:39] <exec> 08└─The whole purpose of the Tor network is to protect your privacy. It's not fast by any means (don't ever watch youtube with it for example), but for most surfing it should provide the level of IP anonymity you seek. For generic surfing, https should suffice to protect your data, even if the IP addres...
[16:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:41] <exec> 08└─How about using multiple Linux/BSD VM's? Configure each for a particular VPN/browser/application and bridge all of their adapters to the host adapter. If you need to destroy a VM you overwrite the virtual disk file with zeros or random. That or store the VM's on a removable disk that can be physical...
[16:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03xorsyst [1372] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:44] <exec> 08└─Use a VM solution so that you have a host and 2 VMs with networking configured in bridged mode. Use the host for "most" browsing, no VPN. Run VPN software in the VMs to make all their traffic go to the (separate) VPNs of your choice.
[16:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:46] <exec> 08└─As you mentioned, you can use one VPN at the router, and then run a separate one on your device to segment that use off. Further, many VPNs offer browser plugins to access the VPN from only that browser. That gives three layers, with two layers being very easy to switch as needed (OS and browser). I...
[16:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:48] <exec> 08└─Are you familiar with Decentraleyes [decentraleyes.org]? Nothing is a silver bullet but it is another important layer.
[16:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:50] <exec> 08└─Good call! I was going to wonder if routing traffic to the NIC vs. VPN could be done based on port number, but that would be clumsy anyway. Namespaces sounds like the correct answer. I found Per process routing take 2: using cgroups, iptables and policy routing [evolware.org] with an intro to using...
[16:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:53] <exec> 08└─I have my own proxy. Server-side is a 5$ linode running shadowsocks service with every other service disabled (including SSH). Client-side i have the shadowsocks client. Just checked usage and September was ~40GB. Linode allows 1TB, so plenty of room to spare. Don't forget that network usage is a to...
[16:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:55] <exec> 08└─i would use a hardened linux box as router instead of dd-wrt or even openwrt after whatever the isp has. the isp box can be put in bridge mode. for vpn i would use PIA [privateinternetaccess.com].
[16:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:57] <exec> 08└─Why not just put in a bit of routing so that torrenting traffic goes over one VPN and everything else goes over the normal Internet connection? For "nice" protocols, it's 2 iptables commands, one to tag the traffic, the other to make sure it SNAT's to the right interface. Torrents, however, are noto...
[16:10:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Bot [3902] 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 179 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:09] <exec> 08└─S.Peter opens a gate for the second time, and a red guy with the face of a goat is there saying "Good fucking choice, mr. Hall! now you know how your guests felt all these years!"
[16:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:14] <exec> 08└─Now I'll prove for sure the percentage isn't over 2%, although the details are too complicated to fit in the margin of this SN post. Given that new data
[16:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:16] <exec> 08└─After reading the article I see why I misunderstood this all these years. The key is in the assumptions which are usually left unsaid, but need to be. The assumption that the host will always open a door, for instance. That *completely* changes the problem. Kind of funny that mathematicians call thi...
[16:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:19] <exec> 08└─Is it so complicated? When you first pick there is p = 1/3 chance it was correct (and hence q = 2/3 incorrect). If p happened, there is 100% chance the host will offer you the wrong door to switch to. If q happened, there is 100% chance the host will offer you the correct door. So the probability of...
[16:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:21] <exec> 08└─Huh? You can't just say you are going to prove something, not do it, then go on acting as if it was proved... "Now I'll prove for sure [... proof omitted ...]. Given my proof"
[16:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:36] <exec> 08└─I have an Android tablet yet, but I'm thinking the upgrade is going to be to native GNU/Linux instead of this GNU running on Android/Linux crap I have on it right now. (Installed a minimal Gentoo, compiled some things I wanted like ssh, and it's GNU and it mostly works. Portage tree on that device i...
[16:11:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Aiwendil [531] 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 113 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:11] <exec> 08└─Leave it to PETA to suggest giving an anticoagulant (aspirin) prior to castration or other dismemberment (tails).
[16:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:24] <exec> 08└─That's why it's safer to keep your own animals, if you can
[16:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:26] <exec> 08└─and can have two lots of up to 10 piglets a year.
[16:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:28] <exec> 08└─Humans (at least for now) are the top predator on this planet. In fact, if it weren't for sliced/cooked meat [sciencemag.org] and smaller jaws/chewing muscles [nytimes.com], we wouldn't have the big brains that make us top predators. While it's true that, given our current knowledge of nutrition, a...
[16:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:30] <exec> 08└─But PETA wants animals to die, that is why their "ethical" treatment of animals typically involves loving administered euthanasia drugs. So the aspirin being an anticoagulant is most likely not over looked.
[16:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:32] <exec> 08└─WTF are you smoking? Mexicans don't produce bacon.
[16:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:34] <exec> 08└─Logical arguments and centuries of history have taught us that such leadership should take the form of strong private property rights for each individual.
[16:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:37] <exec> 08└─Most Jews I've met, in America anyway, do consider themselves to be white, but now I wonder. Are Jews white?
[16:15:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:49] <exec> 08└─I hope you're writing that from inside a prison or it would be ironic. I mean the nice guards could protect you from nasty life span shortening evils like sex, drugs (including alcohol) and rock'n'roll. And keep you away from nasty dangerous habits like driving a motor vehicle. Possibly regularly in...
[16:15:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:15:51] <exec> 08└─I agree. For example, the "guilty look" phenomenon, which appears to not be a real thing: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com [scientificamerican.com] http://www.sciencedirect.com [sciencedirect.com] I also vaguely rememb...
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[17:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:36] <exec> 08└─Mr. Trump owns a property there. Very nice place, no shooters. Very safe.
[17:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:37] <exec> 08└─Firstly, Islamic terrorists are obviously psychologically disturbed by virtue of their religiousness, so it doesn't need to be re-stated. However, there is still a key difference: The Islamic terrorists are explicitly aligning themselves with and fitting themselves into an large-scale, arguably glob...
[17:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:39] <exec> 08└─>Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs. ISIS claims that the attacker is a recent convert to Islam who carried out his attack in the name of the Islamic State. http://www.independe...
[17:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:42] <exec> 08└─Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.
[17:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:44] <exec> 08└─It's also incendiary to play up the affiliations of domestic actors. "Evil Islam" is still an us vs. them frame, despite a few million Muslim Americans. Incidents like these, and their regular occurrence, say to me that society is cracking up.
[17:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kalas [4247] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:46] <exec> 08└─Surely, and at an ever-quickening pace, things just keep getting worse here, all more or less ignored until some galvanizing tragedy like this. As sickening as the loss of life is, I'm just as worried as what this means for our future. Once again the blood of innocents will be used as the fuel to cu...
[17:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:48] <exec> 08└─There's a massive difference between your average US Muslim, your average Middle-Eastern Muslim, and jihadists. Your average US Muslim sees terrorist acts against the west and is appalled. Jihadists may be the core enemy but your average Middle-Eastern Muslim is not appalled and is about half likely...
[17:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:51] <exec> 08└─Firstly, Islamic terrorists are obviously psychologically disturbed by virtue of their religiousness, so it doesn't need to be re-stated.
[17:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:53] <exec> 08└─And some clown who kills more than 50 people by randomly shooting into a crowd from his 32nd floor hotel room isn't "obviously psychologically disturbed"?
[17:09:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:55] <exec> 08└─ISIS claims that the attacker is a recent convert ...
[17:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:57] <exec> 08└─Hope that helps.
[17:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:00] <exec> 08└─The White House will take swift action, and following the examples of reducing "broadband" threshold and "pollution" limits, will quickly declare that "Mass Shooting" starts at 80 victims. This year the US has already seen 273 mass shooting, according to independent observers (Threshold: 4 people)....
[17:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:02] <exec> 08└─That might all be so, or not, but the point being discussed was why the American media always plays up Islamic dimensions to these incidents but linguistically minimalizes them to "lone wolf" when it's not. Playing up the "evil Republican" or "evil Democrat" affiliations (for example) of a domestic...
[17:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:04] <exec> 08└─I'm with you. It's especially alarming that people are calling on Google and Facebook to censor online speech now. How much more of this can we take?
[17:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1023 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:06] <exec> 08└─I never said the shooter isn't obviously psychologically disturbed. I said that calling someone an "Islamic Terrorist" is also calling that someone "obviously psychologically disturbed"; it's just that one is also relaying even more information about the situation: The terrorist is part of one parti...
[17:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:09] <exec> 08└─Average Middle-Eastern Muslim is also likely to have directly or indirectly suffered from the US imperialism. Dead relatives and destroyed governments tend to cause some resentment. If Middle-Easterners overreacted on the similar scale as the US does, the entire West would already be destroyed sever...
[17:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:11] <exec> 08└─A reasonably balanced viewpoint. I guess it comes down to human nature and being afraid of things that are different / scary.
[17:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:13] <exec> 08└─And gun control foes say that gun control keeps us less safe. Hog wash. Gun control makes it more difficult for lunatics such as this guy from amassing an arsenal such as this guy had.
[17:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03LVDOVICVS [6131] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:15] <exec> 08└─Sounds to me like you're using "the blood of innocents" to make your own self-interested claim. And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that what you're specifically talking about is gun ownership. Let me be the first to say that yes, your right and that of everyone else to own devices purpose-b...
[17:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:18] <exec> 08└─FBI say no links to any terrorist group but the added editorial is still horse-shit, may as well read: Interesting how the left always emphasize far-right terrorists, but downplay left-wing or Islamic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.
[17:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:20] <exec> 08└─I know this story has to go up but it will be sound and fury signifying nothing. Somebody will call for gun control and be flamed to a crisp. Somebody will (already has) bring up the terrorist angle and the painfully obvious narratives will be trotted out and be argued again. The reports that the sh...
[17:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:22] <exec> 08└─Would it be excusable then?
[17:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03dast [1633] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:45] <exec> 08└─This ^^^^^^
[17:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ramze [6029] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 2577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:46] <exec> 08└─Great question. I suppose the answer depends on just how serious you are about separating activities and/or privacy. To tackle this, you need to know who your enemies are. Your ISP sees all of your traffic unless you have a VPN and/or use encrypted connections. Pretty much anyone you connect TO or...
[17:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 863 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:48] <exec> 08└─Tor is great. It really is a marvel, and I wish more people used and supported it, because it's certainly the foundation for the way things should be. However, despite the fact that performance has improved by orders of magnitude over the years, it can still be quite the bottleneck for your experien...
[17:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:51] <exec> 08└─If you want to reduce the amount of manual steps when setting up network namespaces, check out "firejail" [1] . Personally, I use it somewhat similar to what OP is looking for, by configuring different application profiles to bind to different network interfaces. For example, one firefox profile to...
[17:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:53] <exec> 08└─Again, I just haven't looked into this very hard, so if there's a really simple explanation, I'm sorry for the dumb question. But in Ktorrent, there is actually a setting where you can direct your traffic to go over a specific network interface (e.g., "tun0"). But what I haven't seen (again, I haven...
[17:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomtomtom [340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:55] <exec> 08└─Or Qubes [qubes-os.org] which tries to provide many of the benefits of doing something like this in a less painful way.
[17:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:26] <exec> 08└─Uh, OK. I meant that if you're eating animals you raise then you know exactly what shots have been given them and what they've eaten. Everything else you're taking on faith, and it has happened entirely too often that companies betray that faith. Even the guys who certified the meat kosher for most...
[17:12:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 1089 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:27] <exec> 08└─Not strictly true, though usually true. But, e.g., dandelion greens are edible, especially when young. Wild grapes are tastier than the commercial varieties, though they're mainly seed. Etc. It's not being edible that compromises the competitiveness of a plant (or animal), it the degree to which it...
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[17:12:29] <exec> 08└─You've misidentified the "tragedy of the commons". The tragedy of the commons is that when there is a shared resource that is beneficially consumed by everyone, there is always a limit on the rate of consumption before it becomes degraded. But it will often benefit each individual to consume more th...
[17:13:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AMD Expected to Release Ryzen CPUs on a 12nm Process in Q1 2018 - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:13:48] <exec> 08└─they don't have much vision or understanding in regards to freedom. they think their customers are all a bunch of ignorant windows gamer slaves. same thing with their workstation customers. the big dumb corps that they do business with supposedly don't care about Free drivers, etc. dumb ass amd does...
[17:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Reducing Antimicrobial Use in Food Animals - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:14:36] <exec> 08└─yes, they feed low dose antibiotics to food animals to make them grow faster. see the 42 day wonder [freefromharm.org]. they need to be sued for every illness and death due to drug resistant bacteria. make them stop their disgusting stupidity.
[17:15:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:15:35] <exec> 08└─I actually liked the new one. I was sad that I burned through it so quickly so I went back and rewatched the 2001 series. The new one is definitely better. It has way better production value, plotlines, and character development, and a bit less campy. The jokes don't feel as forced as the 2001 serie...
[17:16:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03srobert [4803] 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 267 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:16:41] <exec> 08└─Your dog thinks you are the greatest thing that ever happened. How can you not want someone like that in your life? If you don't believe it, lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for a few hours. When you open it up guess which one is happy to see you.
[17:17:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Bell Canada Calls for Adding Obligatory Website Blocking to NAFTA - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:17:56] <exec> 08└─Well, fuck literally all of that.
[17:18:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:48] <exec> 08└─Sorry. With current technology the only planet we could reasonably try to terraform is Earth. And that's dangerous...not that we aren't doing the equivalent without thinking about it.
[17:18:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:18:50] <exec> 08└─Unless you deny Einstein, gravity and acceleration are equivalent. So if Mars gravity is a problem (dubious) you could build a big wheel with tilted flooring. Which makes it an engineering problem. But I really doubt that gravity is a problem on Mars, and I'm dubious about how much of a problem it i...
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[18:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:08] <exec> 08└─It really feels like a concentrated effort across a lot of countries to push high level control of society. Democracy is going out, too dangerous to let the little people have a say in how society is run. Silly plebes keep acting like they are different than the cattle they raise.
[18:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:10] <exec> 08└─No, it wouldn't. From all reports this guy had ZERO priors, ZERO indications that he was a threat at all. Nothing would've made it more difficult for this guy to get guns. Nothing. Whatever routine investigations that are made against prospective gun owners would be passed by this individual, and th...
[18:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:12] <exec> 08└─And the idiotic news media continues to spread IS propaganda, perpetuating the very ideas that led to the shooting in the first place. When will we learn that ideas are powerful, and we must not allow evil ideas to take over our thoughts and conversations? This is not a call for censorship. Just don...
[18:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LVDOVICVS [6131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:14] <exec> 08└─"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..." != fer shootin' up the gubmint.
[18:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'm sure you feel real safe with your pea-shooters when the Government has tanks. It's time to give up on this idea that private citizens, massed together, can match the might of Government with their second-amendment armaments. That hasn't been true for over a hundred years.
[18:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:19] <exec> 08└─One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
[18:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:21] <exec> 08└─Somebody will call for gun control and be flamed to a crisp.
[18:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:23] <exec> 08└─Nope and nope. Killing human beings is not that difficult, and it is a testament to hope and the decency of humanity that we don't see more things like this. Gun control is about political power, not actually about keeping people safe. The answer to our problems has always been the same: we need to...
[18:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:25] <exec> 08└─Based on your logic Stephen Paddock (the shooter) could have been inspired by some random book club and you would label him a member of said book club and his actions a conspiracy with same book club. Also, your contention that people are "obviously psychologically disturbed by virtue of their relig...
[18:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:28] <exec> 08└─It isn't about excusable. A right wing terrorist is USEFUL to the Narrative, left wing terrorist are a danger to eliminate and Islamic terror is far too useful for the right to allow to have excess airplay. Yes the people in the media, the Blue Checkmark Mafia, etc. really DO think this way. All "ne...
[18:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:30] <exec> 08└─I'm with you. It's especially alarming that people are calling on Google and Facebook to censor online speech now.
[18:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 913 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:32] <exec> 08└─How can you deny what is obvious? Having guns with which to form militias is how the people who created the Constitution were able to rise against and defeat the British Government. What is being protected? Not just any old State, but a free State. The first amendment establishes freedom of thought...
[18:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:34] <exec> 08└─It's Mr. President now.
[18:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:37] <exec> 08└─Your average US Muslim sees terrorist acts against the west and is appalled.
[18:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:39] <exec> 08└─Just don't spread ideas that you think are evil.
[18:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:41] <exec> 08└─The country's already keyed up to the maximum now, ...
[18:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:44] <exec> 08└─Guns don't kill people: but how many could he have killed with only a plastic spoon? If gun shops could only sell plastic spoons, would this 'mass killing' have been able to happen? How about bananas: could he have killed anyone with a banana? (Not if i had a gun, he couldn't!) :) :( You can almost...
[18:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:46] <exec> 08└─More important, the mitigation strategy is very different between a true random nutjob and a radicalized convert to ISIS, an enraged Bernie Bro over the edge to violence, a Nazi nutter, etc.
[18:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:48] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'm sure you feel real safe with your AES-256 when the Government has backdoors in everything from the grub bootloader to Windows. It's time to give up on this idea that private citizens, massed together, can protect their privacy from the might of Government with their backdoored commodity ha...
[18:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:50] <exec> 08└─Found the tax collector who likes salty tea!
[18:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:52] <exec> 08└─Firstly, the better half of a century has shown that the Mighty U.S. Military really isn't all that good at insurgent warfare. Indeed, America's longest war has been against a rag-tag team of sand people in Afghanistan. They also did poorly against the Vietcong, and the Koreans. Yet, none of that ma...
[18:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:55] <exec> 08└─> The reports that the shooter was at anti-trump rallies will make it here and another flamewar will ensue. Before anyone starts that flamewar, those reports are already debunked and appear to be based on a misidentification of the shooter as one Geary Danley. See e.g. here: https://thinkprogress.or...
[18:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:57] <exec> 08└─If you want to talk moral philosophy, yes, there is such a thing as evil. Morality is relative in that there are no free-floating non-contingent Platonic moral facts out there, but both absolute and inevitable in the sense that any species of social, intelligent beings is *bound* to come up with thi...
[18:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:59] <exec> 08└─Based on what I'm hearing from the local PD's that executed the search warrant, they found evidence he had installed emacs about a week before the shooting.
[18:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:01] <exec> 08└─Precisely. If I were the average Afghani or Iraqi you bet your ass I'd be cheering on ISIS, in the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" sense anyway. Perspective, people!
[18:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:04] <exec> 08└─Obviously, there are many guns in the United States and many vulnerable gatherings of thousands of people. Even if police are attending to every large gathering, festival, protest, procession, nightclub, etc., offense is easier than defense. The weapons available to the "lone wolf" are increasing. T...
[18:11:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:06] <exec> 08└─You'd be amazed. Look at what the mighty US armed forces suffered in the Middle East, against people mostly armed with said "pea shooters." We'd lose against the government armed forces, but it would be a Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one. What would be left to rule over?
[18:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 950 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:08] <exec> 08└─The invalid form key is an interesting bit, it seems to come and go. I went traveling and using my phone abroad I never ran into the form key problem, but back in the US I get the problem almost constantly on my phone, and often the only solution is to copy my text and re-post very quickly. If I can...
[18:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:10] <exec> 08└─Additionally, other civilized countries keep their government in check by reminding them that cops and military forces are people, and rarely from the wealthiest groups. The people has the guns and tanks, or the people have the pitchforks while the tanks stay in their storage. That's working democra...
[18:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:13] <exec> 08└─I wonder what frequency of mass shootings would lead to widespread gun control. 1 per week? 1 per day? If it ever does happen, we will see an unreal level of stockpiling of weapons before the deadline(s). While it's not plastic spoons, an impressive [wikipedia.org] amount [wikipedia.org] of killings...
[18:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:15] <exec> 08└─> It's because a well armed public impedes their authoritarianism. Bullshit. The US government has gotten more authoritarian since 2001, and you don't see people shooting up the NSA or the CIA, nor freeing the innocent people of Gitmo. A lot of patriotic songs, a thin veil of rule of law, something...
[18:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:17] <exec> 08└─Let me be the first to say that yes, your right and that of everyone else to own devices purpose-built to kill people should be taken away. No one needs to own something that lets them rain death on a crowd from a hotel room three hundred feet in the air, more than a quarter mile away.
[18:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:45] <exec> 08└─Honestly, good luck. These corporations are throwing millions of dollars and armies of people towards associating everyone with a complete, global view of their online actions. PFSense router (recommend against linux for a router) running on some dedicated hardware, OpenVPN, and a variety of strong...
[18:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:47] <exec> 08└─The easiest way can be separate systems. Separation is possible on many different levels. As mentioned, could run multiple instances of the same browser. Or, could run different browsers, using Firefox for one set of websites, Chrome for another set, and Vivaldi for yet another. Of course there aren...
[18:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:49] <exec> 08└─I'm going to try Qubes out... as soon as i can afford a computer GOOD ENOUGH to run it. :( Sigh. Everytime i look at desktops i want, the price goes up.
[18:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:51] <exec> 08└─I have PIA set up on my Arch linux: i have had no problems with them, their "we don't keep logs" was 'supposeably' (supposeably? suPPoseably. supposeABLY!) tried out in court and was found to not keep logs. Supposeably. A no problem group as far as i'm concerned. (3-4ish? year user)
[18:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomtomtom [340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 3142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:53] <exec> 08└─While VPNs can and do provide something useful here (assuming you can find a provider you trust more than your own ISP), I'm not sure this should be the first thing you do. Get the basics right first - i.e. make sure you are installing security updates on both your client computers (with LMDE that's...
[18:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:56] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't in HIS machine. The problem is in His upstream provider. A properly sequestered web browser [pr0gr4mm3r.com] running in a jail, or even a different machine, can most certainly send its display and via X11. This is a long solved problem, and not exactly what the OP was trying to sol...
[18:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:17] <exec> 08└─Nicely explained! And that, dear people, is why it's so bloody difficult to get your head around Bayesian statistics :-) It just feels un-natural. (I think) But as Monty adds information, the prior changes. The probability density function changes from a flat uniform 1/N line to a series of taller b...
[18:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:19] <exec> 08└─But remember, there are four cases for the rules: 1) The host only shows you a goat when you have picked the car. 2) The host only shows you a goat when you haven't picked the car. 3) The host always shows you a goat. 4) The host is capricious about showing you a goat (the real Monty Hall). What tri...
[18:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:36] <exec> 08└─Well because nobody has been rectal enough to throw this out there yet, what "operating system" is Linux? I always thought that was a kernel.
[18:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:37] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of those whoevers. Not just one whoever.
[18:13:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:37] <exec> 08└─Can we eat meat without processing it?
[18:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:39] <exec> 08└─But we're not natural predators at all (or omnivores)... Can we hunt down our own food naturally? Can we eat meat without processing it? Your own first link says we can't.. We had to use stones to slice meat into small pieces to be able to eat it. Does the thought of biting into an animal really mak...
[18:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:41] <exec> 08└─Why do you think it'll be a white dude who figures this out? My money is on China, at least figuring out a well-scaling, cheap process (the initial work is already done). They have 1.6 billion people to feed.
[18:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:43] <exec> 08└─Uh...if you're a Christian, you don't exactly have the moral high ground here. Your God runs an endless, eternal, inescapable concentration camp full of fear, fire, pain, torture, and suffering for nonbelievers, i.e., political prisoners. He is literally infinite Hitler, combined with a dash of Kim...
[18:14:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:50] <exec> 08└─I see a lot of people answering a different question than the one posed. Comments advocate either for all first drafts to be made publicly available or for research to continue appearing in journals as the source of truth. But that doesn't answer the question, which was "Should Scientists Be Posting...
[18:16:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 707 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:16:00] <exec> 08└─The other day, I watched a period piece in which the youth of merry ol' England got together to party by dancing, trying to out-do each other's poetry, and engaging in choral singing. In the old days, entertainment was as much production as it was consumption, and it was a bonding experience. Ironic...
[18:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Bryan Lunduke Joins the W3C - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:19:34] <exec> 08└─And yet certain segments of the community seems to hold him in high regard, in particular the "new guard"...
[18:20:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX: Making Human Life Multiplanetary - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:20:08] <exec> 08└─Sorry. With current economic focus the only planet we could reasonably try to terraform is Earth, and we're doing a poor job of that within current economic priorities. FTFY We have the technology, we have the resources, what we lack is the consensus.
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[19:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules That the FBI Does Not Have to Disclose Name of iPhone Hacking Vendor - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:40] <exec> 08└─Of course they don't... transparency is for losers. You should at all times just blindly trust the Powers That Be</sarc> (can we get a <cynical> tag as well because that's really what I needed here!)
[19:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules That the FBI Does Not Have to Disclose Name of iPhone Hacking Vendor - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:09:41] <exec> 08└─Pretty much everyone here is deeply cynical so <idealistic />, <naïve />, or <credulous /> tags might be better.
[19:10:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mendax [2840] 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 184 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:09] <exec> 08└─And gun control foes say that gun control keeps us less safe. Hog wash. Gun control makes it more difficult for lunatics such as this guy from amassing an arsenal such as this guy had.
[19:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:48] <exec> 08└─273 mass shootings this year. About one per day. No reaction. While you can kill a lot of people with knives, it's a hell of a lot harder, requires someone who's an order of magnitude more nuts and healthy, and you can't do it from the other side of the street. Listen to the videos. I don't know if...
[19:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:50] <exec> 08└─Psh--it takes way longer than a week to be indoctrinated into the One True Editor. If he only installed it a week ago, he wasn't serious about it.
[19:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kalas [4247] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1004 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:52] <exec> 08└─Think of how the public, individuals in our military, and the rest of the world would react to the US openly using tanks against its own citizens. I haven't been able to find it yet but I remember reading a great analysis (factoring in society, tech, geography, world politics, and more) from a man w...
[19:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:54] <exec> 08└─LiveLeak [liveleak.com] Dramatic Footage Shows Gunfire Interrupting Las Vegas Concert / d52_1506944699 [liveleak.com] Las Vegas Mandalay Bay active shooter at festival / 49b_1506926469 [liveleak.com] Drunk Guy Describes Las Vegas Shooting in Detail / e5c_1506930342 [liveleak.com] Post links to video...
[19:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 2469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:56] <exec> 08└─There's a difference between two things which we'll call being a being a "believer" and being religious. My family is religious. And the reason they're religious, even though they would never admit it, is because they're playing Pascal's Wager [wikipedia.org]. They're getting older and are thinking...
[19:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:58] <exec> 08└─Moment of silence on the South Lawn at 2:45 PM EDT this guy like no [thehill.com]
[19:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1901 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:01] <exec> 08└─intelligent beings is *bound* to come up with things like "don't murder each other" if it is to last for any length of time. I'm certainly not trying to argue for terrorists, but this just isn't true: any functioning society has mechanisms to deal with members of the society who would cause it dama...
[19:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:03] <exec> 08└─I'm confused, HRC is saying fight the NRA and you're saying the media will bury it? I thought the media was a left-wing conspiracy and the narrative is all about removing guns from the population, thus they would be more likely to highlight HRC's tweets. Are you mixing up your online personas again?
[19:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:05] <exec> 08└─Here: [wikipedia.org] On May 31, 2014, two 12-year-old girls in Waukesha, Wisconsin allegedly held down and stabbed a 12-year-old classmate 19 times. When questioned later by authorities, they reportedly claimed that they wished to commit a murder as a first step to becoming proxies for the Slender...
[19:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:07] <exec> 08└─Oh, c'mon... The Islamic holy book is a simple ledger [cnn.com] like anybody elses.
[19:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:10] <exec> 08└─since he was shooting at a big crowd, it's possible that he was shooting two guns at once. it's not like he needed to aim...
[19:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:12] <exec> 08└─Heh...I didn't say "kill" but rather "murder" for a very good reason here. All the people you're talking about did this under color of law. It's still wrong, but the illusion of law = good caused those societies to stay more stable at the cost of long-term viability. I believe the law is there to po...
[19:11:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kalas [4247] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 868 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:14] <exec> 08└─I certainly agree we're due for some new amendments, but not the one intended to give citizens a last resort when all legal and peaceful means of redressing govt. oppression have failed. Personally I'd start with one designed to prevent corporations from having so much influence on govt. that we're...
[19:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:16] <exec> 08└─Could the 273 include shootings where nobody died? If not, what is the death threshold, 3? Maybe it was my fault and I should specify 10+ dead in 1 shooting daily. But the amount of killings needed to force change = arbitrary hypothetical speculation anyway. Nevermind, I found the definition [abc15....
[19:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:18] <exec> 08└─I'm saying that was so over the top full retard that the media will bury it because it so obviously counter productive. They will push control in the coming days, but not so incompetently.
[19:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:21] <exec> 08└─As you've admitted, the authoritarianism must be increased generationally, so slowly that nobody quite realizes it. That being said, the United States has been rocked by tons of examples which have put the authoritarians back on their heels. The Civil War is an example of people (on both sides) bein...
[19:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:23] <exec> 08└─> Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists. Yes, and if there were a place where lunatic shooters abound, and we let them immigrate from there, because they flee from wars and stuff, never mind that it makes no sense financially socially and security wise, the media would emphasize...
[19:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:25] <exec> 08└─Funny that, I thought the Civil War was decided by victories on battlefields, between uniformed armies of various governments.
[19:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:28] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think the modern usage is based on whether civilian or military targets are your target of choice. If that's the standard then they're not remotely similar.
[19:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:30] <exec> 08└─I support the complete eradication of ... country music from the planet.
[19:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:32] <exec> 08└─In a war of ideas, everyone is a military target! :^) 🔫🔫🔫
[19:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:34] <exec> 08└─I probably would too. I support the home team when someone is trying to kill members of it, their reasons be damned.
[19:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:37] <exec> 08└─Don't care. If they're trying to kill Americans or supporting people who do, fuck them. They want to discuss politics, we can do that. They want to kill people, we can do that too. Extremely well.
[19:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:39] <exec> 08└─As of yet, there is no indication that this guy was *any* kind of terrorist. His acts were terrifying for sure, but no one knows what his motives were. Maybe he converted to Islam, maybe he's a white supremacist, maybe he's just nucking phutts.
[19:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:41] <exec> 08└─You're saying I should shoot Deucalion for being a dirty socialist? Well okay but I'm not taking on the IRCOP/CEO jobs if I do. Bytram can do em.
[19:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:43] <exec> 08└─Fortunately for us, they don't have the resources to do that.
[19:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:45] <exec> 08└─> This shooter was not an "Islamic terrorist", he was a good old fashioned > home-grown American terrorist. But why a "terrorist" ? Tim McVeigh and Ted Kaczynsky were terrorists, they had manifestos, well documented "causes" they were supporting through their actions (however insane their reasoning...
[19:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:48] <exec> 08└─Being "over the lake", it is interesting to see differences in reports from American outlets vs. European ones. Namely the one which stuck out the most to me, is that the American outlets not only mention the death toll, but also explicitly point out number of injured cops, and even details such as...
[19:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:50] <exec> 08└─"ideas that led to the shooting in the first place." Which ideas? I've not seen a single statement alluding to the shooter's ideas.
[19:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:52] <exec> 08└─I'm anti-pointy stick, personally. The Roomie's masculine child has an annoying penchant for swinging them around without paying attention to either the stick or what might be in its way.
[19:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:54] <exec> 08└─Please, define that "very different" bit. A genuine nutjob might be encouraged by any of dozens of terrorist organizations. To them, he is a useful idiot. Lacking any support, the nutjob may go off on his own. But, the nut is a nut, either way.
[19:11:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:56] <exec> 08└─I find it interesting that gun control folks like to put emphasis on the militia part and then pretend that it alters the meaning of "the people" into "the state". There's not one place in the constitution or any amendment where the two terms are used interchangeably.
[19:11:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:59] <exec> 08└─Resisting tyranny isn't about safety; it's about resisting tyranny. You remember "give me liberty or give me death" by chance?
[19:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 1035 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:01] <exec> 08└─Basic rules for armed revolution: 1. You need a solid backing in the population, and 2. You need solid military power. When considering point 2, don't forget to factor in the military force of the government, and the military means of those parts of the "civil" society who will consider you an enemy...
[19:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:03] <exec> 08└─Maybe keyed up to near max. We DID see a "peaceful revolution" with the last election. Members of BOTH parties rejected the candidates pushed by their parties.
[19:12:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:05] <exec> 08└─I can't wait till we move far enough away from oil that the world can leave the middle east alone and let them sort their shit out. Then why do the gun-lovers keep voting for politicians who want to start wars in the middle east? The answer to our problems has always been the same: we need to reduc...
[19:12:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:07] <exec> 08└─Hmm, perhaps blackmailed into it? "We need another mass shooter, people aren't as afraid as they used to be." "Ok, lets threaten some guy we have easy leverage over muahaha."
[19:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:10] <exec> 08└─Careful. No middle easterner, and probably no Asian, considers the "enemey of mine enemy" as a "friend". They may work together for a common cause, but they will still stab each other in the back, cheerfully.
[19:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:12] <exec> 08└─Erm... that never really happened. Now .22 shells being all but unobtainable did.
[19:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:14] <exec> 08└─Based on what I'm hearing from the local PD's that executed the search warrant, they found evidence he had installed emacs about a week before the shooting. Stop spreading fake news bullshit. I'm sure he was a Windows 10 user. You can't trust those people. They should all be rounded up and put in as...
[19:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:16] <exec> 08└─Check the audio in the videos. He was most definitely full auto.
[19:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:18] <exec> 08└─Your link: https://www.theverge.com [theverge.com]
[19:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:21] <exec> 08└─Why the emphasis on cops? Are cops, and off-duty ones at that, somehow more special in the eyes of Americans, or more likely the American media perhaps? Yes, conservative Americans absolutely believe that cops are more special than everyone else. To me, this helps fuel the us-vs-them attitude that w...
[19:12:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:23] <exec> 08└─Probably hundreds of thousands. Possibly a million or two. I know I'd be one of them for certain.
[19:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:57] <exec> 08└─Its interesting to compare any random VBN recommended site to what ThatOnePrivacySite thinks about it. For instance, if a VPN service operates as business, they get bad marks from TOPS in those columns. Apparently every VPN should provide this service for free regardless of the bandwidth costs they...
[19:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 1906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:59] <exec> 08└─Kind of annoyed no one answered anon's question about HOW to configure this and use multiple things at the same time. OK anon heres how something similar works for me. Web browser connects to privoxy. privoxy routes out different directions based on if the URL ends in .onion or .i2p or whatever. You...
[19:13:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:24] <exec> 08└─If you can change your guess - before the car is revealed - then your odds are still one in three
[19:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:25] <exec> 08└─The problem that people really faced is that they made a decision. Maybe it's good, maybe it's bad. They are presented with new evidence, and they have to decide whether they made a wrong decision. Nobody ever wants to have made a wrong decision. Nobody ever likes to change the decision they made, e...
[19:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:27] <exec> 08└─All three doors had goat-faced red guys. Monty said "good, I was worried they'd be goat-haired orange guys".
[19:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:45] <exec> 08└─But there could be a whoevers, making us all wonder is you are that whoevers and therefore all the whoevers, or if somehow whoevers doesn't include just any whoever.
[19:14:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 599 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:17] <exec> 08└─Humans (at least for now) are the top predator on this planet. In fact, if it weren't for sliced/cooked meat [sciencemag.org] and smaller jaws/chewing muscles [nytimes.com], we wouldn't have the big brains that make us top predators. While it's true that, given our current knowledge of nutrition, a...
[19:14:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03CoolHand [438] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:48] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'd just read that article prior to reading the post that set me off a bit. It's just frustrating to me that meat (and dairy) is pretty obviously detrimental to us in the long term, and big animal-agriculture is killing our planet, but people just brush it off as if its nothing. I'm not a big...
[19:14:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:49] <exec> 08└─Everything you're saying can be applied to every other group just as well. Everyone from Catholics and Muslims to Protestants have spotty allegiances they themselves have a hard time recognizing at times. e.g. The Protestant agenda has especially screwed the US in trade and industry by constantly re...
[19:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:52] <exec> 08└─"Uh...if you're a Christian, you don't exactly have the moral high ground here. Your God runs an endless, eternal, inescapable concentration camp full of fear, fire, pain, torture, and suffering for nonbelievers, i.e., political prisoners. He is literally infinite Hitler, combined with a dash of Kim...
[19:14:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:54] <exec> 08└─I am highly worried that double-meat pigs, like growth hormones or steroid pigs, may not have the incentive to grow proper bacon.
[19:14:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:14:56] <exec> 08└─Never quite understood that one. I prefer to pre-increment bacon before eating.
[19:15:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Travis Kalanick Appoints Two New Uber Board Members in "Power Play" - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:20] <exec> 08└─My feet are 0.3048m, you SI-insensitive clod!
[19:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:15:34] <exec> 08└─I know that we need it supercooled for the infrared science we need, and away from the planet and the infrared it radiates. But dang, that seems like such a shame to spend so much time and money building such a cool toy, and not have a way to refuel the coolant, or switch it to visible afterwards. A...
[19:16:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:16:07] <exec> 08└─Well, that sucks. I feel for you there. But then, preprints (aka pre-review-publication) wouldn't have helped you at all, as it just speeds up the process for anyone. If some random asshole can beat you to submitting a paper for peer review, they can beat you to non-reviewed publication just the sam...
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[20:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:38] <exec> 08└─I don't want no stinking apps or keys, I just want my good old RSA token, even if it needs more digits. Is it 100% foolproof? Nope, but it's really hard to hijack if implemented properly. Gimme two, in case I lose one or the battery dies. I'll bury the spare under the Bougainvillea.
[20:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:40] <exec> 08└─"The new service will block all third-party programs from accessing a user's emails or files stored on Google Drive" fools.
[20:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:42] <exec> 08└─So it'll return a blank page in case there's a third party looking at the screen, right?
[20:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:44] <exec> 08└─Why not just get a yubikey?
[20:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:47] <exec> 08└─So normal people does not need or deserve security? Thanks Google ...
[20:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:49] <exec> 08└─Interesting. The RSA token works on all machines and operating systems, and the only interference possible is the capture of the number being typed (which could be enough, granted). Plug a device in something (wait, this one is USB and that is USB-C, where's my dongle), and all sorts of shenanigans...
[20:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:09:51] <exec> 08└─Nope, glad you finally noticed. You should start posting bank account numbers and naked pics, now. (I'd say not necessarily your naked pics, to save our retinas, but I can't judge the tastes of fellow Soylentils).
[20:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules That the FBI Does Not Have to Disclose Name of iPhone Hacking Vendor - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:01] <exec> 08└─“It is logical and plausible that the vendor may be less capable than the FBI of protecting its proprietary information in the face of a cyberattack,” the court said.
[20:10:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:58] <exec> 08└─Based on what I'm hearing from the local PD's that executed the search warrant, they found evidence he had installed emacs about a week before the shooting.
[20:12:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 617 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:05] <exec> 08└─How about using multiple Linux/BSD VM's? Configure each for a particular VPN/browser/application and bridge all of their adapters to the host adapter. If you need to destroy a VM you overwrite the virtual disk file with zeros or random. That or store the VM's on a removable disk that can be physical...
[20:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Pluto's "Bladed Terrain" Caused by Methane Erosion - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:18] <exec> 08└─when Pluto is a little warmer, the methane ice begins to basically 'evaporate' away."
[20:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:20] <exec> 08└─iCows?
[20:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 616 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:21] <exec> 08└─Fun fact, chickens produce eggs both faster and slower than most people think. Many people I talk to think that it is either something like once a day or once a week. Not even the top-end layers on the special diets routinely get one egg a day and none of the top-end broilers are as slow as once a w...
[20:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:14:23] <exec> 08└─You've identified the accepted interpretation of the term. Grishnakh did a good job on this, a bit before you. Neither of you, however, mentioned that the concept didn't exist before it was invented as propaganda by Capitalists, after the Enclosure Acts of the 1600s (which privatized land ownership...
[20:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Launch of James Webb Space Telescope Delayed to Spring 2019 - 1975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:02] <exec> 08└─Unclear (to me): While JWST was not designed to be easily serviced by astronauts or robotic craft, and is much further away than Hubble, could it still be serviced by either method if we chose to do so?Will JWST be permanently damaged once coolant runs out? ie. If we refill the coolant, propellant,...
[20:15:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should Scientists Be Posting Their Work Online Before Peer Review? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:15:36] <exec> 08└─telling people early and publicly about your research makes it a lot more difficult for other researchers to claim that they were the first to have the idea.
[20:17:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Booga1 [6333] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Amazon Increases Production Spending for 2018, Developing 3 New Sci-Fi Series - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:17:37] <exec> 08└─Might be a bit late for that. He's already been: Kong, in King KongMonkey, in Enslaved: Odyssey to the WestCaesar, in the Planet of the Apes series
[20:18:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Science Behind Why Some People Love Animals and Others Couldn't Care Less - 1027 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:18:51] <exec> 08└─An anecdote for an anecdote. I'm rather a cat-type person, not much into dogs. However, I usually get along fine with dogs, and in fact many dogs seem to distinctively like me. But then there was this one time, when a friends' dog was dead serious about attacking me. Call me a coward, but when that...
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[21:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:40] <exec> 08└─How many bothered to report bubble gum on the sidewalk?
[21:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:41] <exec> 08└─Trumpus Cheetous
[21:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:03] <exec> 08└─Why not just get a yubikey?
[21:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:04] <exec> 08└─Meant to say allowing text messages on accounts you set up to use yubikey-like devices is just stupid.
[21:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:06] <exec> 08└─block all third-party programs
[21:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:08] <exec> 08└─> So normal people does not need or deserve security? Thanks Google ... "Normal people" == the product when you think of it that way, you recognise that asking Google to do something to benefit you would be like cattle asking the same of the farmer. Nothing will be done to you unless it benefits the...
[21:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:11] <exec> 08└─The yubikey with nfc works on pretty much all devices except iOS (at present). But I understand the pain of reaching for a USB port each time you want to do something. For me I don't find it an issue due to my setup, however.
[21:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:13] <exec> 08└─I don't think price is a concern here, though. I have both the NFC yubikey and the little micro yubikey. Both serve me very well. The only thing that I use that frustrates me is AWS because they don't work with yubikeys yet. I think its a far more useful and user friendly device than RSA keys (once...
[21:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:15] <exec> 08└─You can use yubikeys with google. I use two authenticators for both my personal and work accounts. Much easier to use than RSA type tokens and authenticator apps.
[21:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:17] <exec> 08└─It's unclear to me that normal folks will be prevented from adopting this security measure. I wrestled with that question for a hot minute while submitting this. However: The company plans to market the product to corporate executives, politicians and others with heightened security concerns, these...
[21:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:20] <exec> 08└─It'll almost assuredly be a G Suite feature for nothing less than G Suite Business.
[21:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 975 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:22] <exec> 08└─There is no evidence of a hack other than "stuff got leaked". Timestamps, some purposely vague comments by Julian Assange (technically not revealing a source but hinting at it), a very damning email by Podesta, and Seth Rich's comments all point to Seth Rich as a leaker. He was an insider who was st...
[21:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Court Rules That the FBI Does Not Have to Disclose Name of iPhone Hacking Vendor - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:33] <exec> 08└─Or they are quite pissed to be used as the scape goat after they saved the FBI from having deal with the fallout of hacking the phone. I'm sure they're still happy to remain unidentified so they don't become the target of apple fan bois.
[21:11:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 897 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:11:40] <exec> 08└─273 mass shootings this year. About one per day. No reaction. While you can kill a lot of people with knives, it's a hell of a lot harder, requires someone who's an order of magnitude more nuts and healthy, and you can't do it from the other side of the street. Listen to the videos. I don't know if...
[21:13:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:27] <exec> 08└─Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats.
[21:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In a First, Android Apps Abuse Serious “Dirty Cow” Bug to Backdoor Phones - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:13:47] <exec> 08└─Yep, it's true. But I do get value in return for the google spyware. A superior experience. Maps. News. Gmail. Organizer. Contacts. YouTube. Docs / Drive. Voice recognition / commands. Translation. And much more. It's all nicely integrated into my phone. When I switch phones, it all conveniently mov...
[21:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:14:59] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'd just read that article prior to reading the post that set me off a bit. It's just frustrating to me that meat (and dairy) is pretty obviously detrimental to us in the long term, and big animal-agriculture is killing our planet, but people just brush it off as if its nothing. I'm not a big...
[21:15:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:01] <exec> 08└─Meat-eater here, so I'm not particularly trying to shoot you down , but I have to say that "it's what nature intended" and "that's how it's always been" are really crappy arguments for anything.
[21:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA Claims That Cambodian Farmers Are Breeding "Double-Muscled" Mutant Pigs - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:15:03] <exec> 08└─...uh, no. No, the Devil does not run jack shit. It's a pop-culture trope that Satan is sitting on a throne of red-hot skeletons in Hell or something, but if you ACTUALLY READ THE GODDAMN BIBLE, you will see references to "...the fire prepared for the Devil and his angels" (Mt. 25:46) and various pl...
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[22:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, the new Yorkers don't have these which top out at a couple pounds. Instead they get escaped Gambian Pouched Rats which can weigh 3 pounds and be three feet long including tail. Truly an industrial strength rat! On the plus side, the pouched rats can be trained to detect landmines.
[22:09:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:36] <exec> 08└─sniff sniff.. raises paw to say "here!" Or Walk, walk, boom..?
[22:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:38] <exec> 08└─The walk, walk, boom thing wouldn't be very good to anyone. A three pound rodent isn't going to set of the typical land mine. He almost certainly isn't going to set it off after is has sat in the ground, packed in dirt, over a decade or more. It's going to take some real pressure to push the plunger...
[22:09:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:09:41] <exec> 08└─New York is home to 8.5 million people and covers 784 KM2 and there only 17,000 reported rat sightings? It doesn't sound like much to me.
[22:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:11] <exec> 08└─"for Politicians and Executives"
[22:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google Services to Offer Physical Two-Factor Authentication for Politicians and Executives - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:13] <exec> 08└─Not Google/Alphabet's fault. They're a company in a capitalist market jumping on an opportunity. Blame the politicians for sending the message that mass data leaks of citizens are A-Okay. Look at all the leaks over the past few years, how many actually got penalized by the government. Instead of pas...
[22:10:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03takyon [881] 02 - 06Federal Court Rules That the FBI Does Not Have to Disclose Name of iPhone Hacking Vendor - 113 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:22] <exec> 08└─Pretty much everyone here is deeply cynical so <idealistic />, <naïve />, or <credulous /> tags might be better.
[22:10:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 378 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:49] <exec> 08└─Average Middle-Eastern Muslim is also likely to have directly or indirectly suffered from the US imperialism. Dead relatives and destroyed governments tend to cause some resentment. If Middle-Easterners overreacted on the similar scale as the US does, the entire West would already be destroyed sever...
[22:11:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kalas [4247] 02 - 06Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas - 868 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:42] <exec> 08└─I certainly agree we're due for some new amendments, but not the one intended to give citizens a last resort when all legal and peaceful means of redressing govt. oppression have failed. Personally I'd start with one designed to prevent corporations from having so much influence on govt. that we're...
[22:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask SoylentNews: VPN Segmented Browsing? - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:12:50] <exec> 08└─Here is a quick setup tested with IPred and privateinternetaccess http://tancheff.aeonazure.com [aeonazure.com] There is also an (old) patch for transmission I can re-spin and put on github it there is any interest: https://trac.transmissionbt.com
[22:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:20] <exec> 08└─Often the goat was pretty good compared to the supposed prize. Goats taste good, vaguely like lamb and beef. Goats can trim your lawn. Goats can be fun pets. If female, you can get milk.
[22:16:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AMD Expected to Release Ryzen CPUs on a 12nm Process in Q1 2018 - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:16:22] <exec> 08└─Fitting, since a RaspberryPi is _almost_ as good as a regular computer from 10 years ago.
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[23:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple and Belkin's $35 Dongle Brings 3.5mm Headphone Port Back to the iPhone - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:26] <exec> 08└─LOL.
[23:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple and Belkin's $35 Dongle Brings 3.5mm Headphone Port Back to the iPhone - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:27] <exec> 08└─When I'm shopping for a phone the top 2 things are: 1) can I add an SDCC card; and 2) does it have a headphone jack. Those are 2 things I use all the time, take one out and your phone is useless to me.
[23:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple and Belkin's $35 Dongle Brings 3.5mm Headphone Port Back to the iPhone - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:30] <exec> 08└─Belkin has released a [$34.95 iPhone adapter] which lets you charge your phone [and listen to] a 3.5mm headphone jack at the same time
[23:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Species of Giant Rat Identified on the Solomon Islands - 492 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:43] <exec> 08└─Buttercup: We'll never succeed. We may as well die here. Westley: No, no. We have already succeeded. I mean, what are the three terrors of the Fire Swamp? One, the flame spurt - no problem. There's a popping sound preceding each; we can avoid that. Two, the lightning sand, which you were clever enou...
[23:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scrutinizer [6534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GlobalFoundries to Spend $10-12 Billion on a 7nm Fab, Possibly $14-18 Billion for 5nm - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:50] <exec> 08└─I'm still waiting for chip technology to make the jump into the third dimension. We have crazy sci-fi semiconductor technology [wikipedia.org] at our fingertips, if perhaps not within our grasp, that may help to facilitate such a change. ... I have just discovered that the diamond crystal wafers mad...
[23:09:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06GlobalFoundries to Spend $10-12 Billion on a 7nm Fab, Possibly $14-18 Billion for 5nm - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:09:52] <exec> 08└─Stacking chips makes thermal dissipation difficult.
[23:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03rylyeh [6726] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Monty Hall Dies - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:23] <exec> 08└─The bleating question - did they really get to keep the goat?
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