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[00:39:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:52] <exec> 08└─I am talking here about the impression the name gives to Joe Public, not the dictionary definition.
[00:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:53] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, I drive the same roads as these people. So my life is also at risk by their behavior. If they were doing it on their own farm road where there weren't any other drivers, I'd say have at it.
[00:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:55] <exec> 08└─He understands. He wrote or kills someone. If that someone is you, it's still evolution in action!
[00:40:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 1179 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:40:08] <exec> 08└─I now have the same experience with SSDs. Had a server crap out because there were no more writes left in the SSD. Completely exhausted the poor thing, and Linux didn't react well to the sudden read-only nature of its storage. Since most of the servers were provisioned at the same time..... Not fun....
[00:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:40:31] <exec> 08└─> We've switched to glass headlines, but they shatter as soon as someone complains. We all know who it is. *shakes fist at wonkey_monkey
[00:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:15] <exec> 08└─Fallacious thinkers are as fallacious thinkers do. Try again.
[00:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:17] <exec> 08└─Let's see you counter that.
[00:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:19] <exec> 08└─You can't be serious, can you? Christ. We're doomed!
[00:43:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:05] <exec> 08└─So let's say this was true for computers. You bought an 8-bit computer in the 1970s with a Zilog Z-80 CPU and 8k of RAM. It still works today in 2017, *exactly* as well as it did in 1977! Are you still using it? I doubt it. Can't even get online (maybe some BBS but not the www). Your phone might wor...
[00:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:42] <exec> 08└─Because Starship Troopers grossed less than $55 million [imdb.com], that's how.
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[01:39:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:11] <exec> 08└─It's a noob-assed question. Yes, it can make them slightly more weatherproof. It also makes them take a whopping hell of a lot longer to repair when they do have issues. It's not a viable solution.
[01:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:13] <exec> 08└─My father was an Ee. He said buried power lines are very inefficient
[01:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 1452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:15] <exec> 08└─It would be nice. I live in a place where the power goes out on average once every two weeks (running average for 2017 year to date). It is at best very annoying, and my line pretty much surely costs the power company more than the revenue it generates. The county and the electric utility, maybe 10...
[01:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:17] <exec> 08└─We should go wireless... Problem solved
[01:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:19] <exec> 08└─and treat it like a common carrier
[01:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:22] <exec> 08└─http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla [theoatmeal.com]
[01:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:24] <exec> 08└─It's a noob-assed question.
[01:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:26] <exec> 08└─In Kanata, Ontario, almost all of the local power distribution lines are fully buried (between buildings and the substations). There are very few utility poles and the only power lines you see are the big long-haul ones. 15-20 years ago power outages in Kanata were a fact of life, at least once a we...
[01:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:29] <exec> 08└─We should go wireless...
[01:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:31] <exec> 08└─Depends on the issues. If the underground lines are in carlon raceway, it's easier to pull new cable through pipe than string overhead. If its direct-burial cable, not so much. Even if there's a break in the conduit, it's easy to find with modern methods. Most new sub-divisions in Virginia require u...
[01:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:33] <exec> 08└─At 100kV+ yes. At 10kV-, less of a problem. Where I live (suburbian Melbourne) there are no aerial power lines after the township transformer point. The DC high voltage (that would mitigate the losses in AC HV) is a matter that should be considered within today's technological capabilities (which di...
[01:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:35] <exec> 08└─Not sure who gave you a Flamebait, so I corrected with a disagree... Buried power lines are everywhere in the civilized world. Yep, they're more expensive, but servicing isn't dramatically slow in my experience. And compared to the US's ugly overhead ratsnests, the European back alleys let you focus...
[01:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:38] <exec> 08└─Where I live (suburban Auckland), we have the same thing, probably modelled on the suburban Melbourne setup, because NZ electrickery is the same as Australia, for obvious reasons Lines were put underground starting if memory serves about 20 years ago. As far as I can tell it works really well and ce...
[01:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:22] <exec> 08└─Maybe. Maybe not. Why wouldn't the AI in the software know about the 2 second all way red, or the extended yellow, and try to take advantage of it just like drivers do. Remember, to error is human. To really fuck things up you need a computer. I can see improvement in this area when all cars communi...
[01:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:24] <exec> 08└─Wow, I've never heard this verb "Hastings".... I kinda get the context but what exactly does it mean? Where does this come from? Is this a reference to how the Hastings store chain ran out of money and had to shut down, or what? UrbanDictionary didn't explain "Hastings" but did have "Boston brakes":...
[01:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:26] <exec> 08└─Michael Hastings was a journalist who died in a high-speed car wreck with a tree. [wikipedia.org] He asked to borrow a car belonging to his neighbor just days prior, explaining that he feared his vehicle had been tampered with. He had also told some friends that he was doing a big story on the gover...
[01:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:28] <exec> 08└─Wow, I hadn't heard about that. Thanks for answering my question.
[01:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:40:31] <exec> 08└─If a person gets killed or kills someone because they didn't bother to learn to drive a car for which they spent at least $68k, then fuck them.
[01:41:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 160 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:17] <exec> 08└─How about we hand you a (cheap) gun and you personally get to shoot each and everyone of them? Your words ring like eery echoes of not-so-recent German history.
[01:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:52] <exec> 08└─Well, if it isn't obvious when the troll redefines “homeless” to mean something other than “without housing,” I don't know how else our violently imposed troll can make it more clear that s/he's trolling. I will say, though, to your credit, violently imposed troll, this is excellent trolling...
[01:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:54] <exec> 08└─Speaking of gibberish, you seem to imply that the resources consumed by government come only from government workers. The question put to you was quite clear for those of us not smarmy gits: if "government consisting of people" excuses forcible theft by government according to you, explain how "mafi...
[01:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 1062 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:43] <exec> 08└─Of course I know what planned obsolescence is. Do you, though? Kinda the whole point of the article is that phones are in general lasting LONGER than the warranty period. Calling something planned obsolescence because the new ones are shiny and ooh I want one is a bit of a stretch. That's out-of-con...
[01:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:43:44] <exec> 08└─Any company of Apple's size is employing manufacturing engineers. They're looking at each component and performing complex analyses on each part to both bring the cost of manufacturing down, and balancing that against warranty costs. Plus of course the reputation cost of having a Samsung, err, I mea...
[01:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:21] <exec> 08└─You actually got three starship troopers movies, but the two made-for-TV sequels were complete trash so nobody remembers them.
[01:44:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:44:23] <exec> 08└─The barrier to entry for quality CGI is falling and will fall even further. You'll see more of it from India [wikipedia.org] and other countries [wikipedia.org]. You'll see more of it on TV [wikipedia.org]. And eventually you'll see amateur filmmakers capable of making good looking feature-length pr...
[01:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:47:18] <exec> 08└─PETA should have been heavily fined
[01:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Remotely Extended the Range of Vehicles So Drivers Could Escape Hurricane Irma - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:49:08] <exec> 08└─I really don't believe we should buy cars like this.
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[02:40:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Virindi [3484] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 1452 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:06] <exec> 08└─It would be nice. I live in a place where the power goes out on average once every two weeks (running average for 2017 year to date). It is at best very annoying, and my line pretty much surely costs the power company more than the revenue it generates. The county and the electric utility, maybe 10...
[02:40:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 27 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:10] <exec> 08└─It's a noob-assed question.
[02:40:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Geezer [511] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 682 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:14] <exec> 08└─Depends on the issues. If the underground lines are in carlon raceway, it's easier to pull new cable through pipe than string overhead. If its direct-burial cable, not so much. Even if there's a break in the conduit, it's easy to find with modern methods. Most new sub-divisions in Virginia require u...
[02:40:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 327 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:18] <exec> 08└─Where I live (suburban Auckland), we have the same thing, probably modelled on the suburban Melbourne setup, because NZ electrickery is the same as Australia, for obvious reasons Lines were put underground starting if memory serves about 20 years ago. As far as I can tell it works really well and ce...
[02:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:20] <exec> 08└─From the land of lighting Florida... In the air. Trees and winds are an issue. Lighting thought not as much since a ground wire is run above the power lines. In the ground. Trees pulled out below ground rips the lines up. But not as often. Bury power lines... study was done and found that will hit...
[02:40:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Skwearl [4314] (Score: 1, Disagree) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:22] <exec> 08└─Hurricane winds will not knock down those main distribution lines. I live in Northern BC, under the trade winds. 100 km/h winds are a monthly occurence. We have main lines running down from our dams, and windmills to service vancouver, washington state, and california. If those bad boys went down, i...
[02:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:25] <exec> 08└─Should the US Put Power Lines Underground?
[02:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:27] <exec> 08└─Not sure who gave you a Flamebait, so I corrected with a disagree...
[02:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 2669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:29] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure that's accurate. It really depends on how they are buried, how difficult it is to repair after a catastrophe. Yes, if they were to bury each individual power line in it's own trench, without any kind of conduit, repairs would take forever plus a couple years. On the other hand, covered...
[02:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:31] <exec> 08└─100 km/h winds are a monthly occurence.
[02:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:33] <exec> 08└─I want to point out that expected 100 kph winds can be engineered for. 100 kph is only about 70 mph, and I think it safe to say that all of our power mains will survive that. Hurricane winds though, are often twice that strong, possibly even three times - and they aren't exactly routine, and expecte...
[02:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:36] <exec> 08└─Hurricane winds will not knock down those main distribution lines.
[02:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:38] <exec> 08└─Fuji vs. rotten fermented Granny Smith with worms inside?
[02:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06One Powerful Cell Makes or Breaks Your Habits - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
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[02:41:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 238 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:09] <exec> 08└─And apparently headlines are only semi believable as well. The board's report declares the primary probable cause of the collision as the truck driver's failure to yield, as well as the Tesla driver's overreliance on his car's automation.
[02:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:32] <exec> 08└─Because the number one objective is safety.
[02:41:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 449 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:41:43] <exec> 08└─- Apple releases Crystal Hard Drive, $5000/GB - Audiophiles fight for a decade to know whether those glass drives enable better sound quality - Geeks try to make actual music by shaving the drive platters and moistening the drive heads - web commenters finally try to find a replacement for...
[02:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:11] <exec> 08└─The price per gigabyte has been flat for years now. I need more space but 8TB drives are finally coming in at under $200. I'm not buying any Seagate garbage either, the extra money for HGST is worth it.
[02:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:12] <exec> 08└─I hadn't heard about that particular fail (but I never bought IBM HDs so didn't pay close attention) but I knew someone who had one fail, opened it up, and found the platter broken in half. Not dropped or shocked -- this was just from normal operation in a desktop case.
[02:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, just like those multi-terabyte HDs are all being used by datacenters right now!
[02:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:16] <exec> 08└─Gee, I can't imagine why... https://www.backblaze.com [backblaze.com]
[02:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:19] <exec> 08└─I don't know what you're getting at, but the primary customers for today's helium-filled 10-12 TB (and soon 14 TB) hard disk drives are data centers. And they are priced accordingly. http://www.anandtech.com [anandtech.com] https://www.wdc...
[02:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:21] <exec> 08└─No; referring to all the mutli-TB drives suddenly on the consumer market. I remember when they were all "datacenter drives" too.
[02:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03physicsmajor [1471] (Score: 2) 02 - 06San Diego Power-Washing Streets to Fight Hepatitis A Outbreak - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:12] <exec> 08└─There is a Hep A vaccine. But we don't give it anymore, for the same reason we don't vaccinate against Polio: it functionally doesn't exist in countries with a bare modicum of modern sanitation. The way Hep A is spread is known as fecal-oral transmission, and the densest person reading this comment...
[02:44:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 426 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:35] <exec> 08└─Let's ask Mr. Owl . . . Mr. Owl replies . . . an iPhone should last as long as possible, hopefully until Apple sends the device a notification that a newer model is available. Upon notification, the device should gradually develop performance issues and have less and less free storage available, whi...
[02:45:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:03] <exec> 08└─That won't be enough for me. Where I live the cheapest iPhone X will cost me 1799 of my local dollars. Well it won't, but if I had more money than sense it would.
[02:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:44] <exec> 08└─Whoa.
[02:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:45] <exec> 08└─I'll concede that most movies are highly predictable and follow the same plot. However, there are still plenty of really good, thought-provoking films out there. Go and hire Dancer in the Dark [imdb.com] starring Bjork. You'll want to turn it off after 15 minutes or so, but stick with it. IT IS WORT...
[02:48:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 88 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:33] <exec> 08└─How much did PETA charge Naturo to represent it in court? Or did they do it pro bonobos?
[02:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:48:47] <exec> 08└─I do not see how to get this across to you
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[03:39:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 419 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:31] <exec> 08└─At 100kV+ yes. At 10kV-, less of a problem. Where I live (suburbian Melbourne) there are no aerial power lines after the township transformer point. The DC high voltage (that would mitigate the losses in AC HV) is a matter that should be considered within today's technological capabilities (which di...
[03:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:43] <exec> 08└─Always bothered me how the power lines in B.C. obscured the beautiful mountain views. They should bury more of the lines.
[03:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:45] <exec> 08└─Should the US Put Power Lines Underground?
[03:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:47] <exec> 08└─No, it's not that bad, really. The power lines mentioned have been engineered for some powerful winds, and that same engineering would be applicable to "hurricane proof" power lines. It's a matter of degree. Of course, I'm not sure that we can build to that level of strength and durability. A cat fi...
[03:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:49] <exec> 08└─So many of our cities have continuous sidewalks everywhere even out into the suburban areas. There's a thing called utilawalks where the sidewalk slabs can be lifted individually with a backhoe then replaced as easily after the work is completed. There's options for a knee deep concrete trench, pref...
[03:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:51] <exec> 08└─It would be nice. I live in a place where the power goes out on average once every two weeks (running average for 2017 year to date). It is at best very annoying, and my line pretty much surely costs the power company more than the revenue it generates.
[03:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:39:53] <exec> 08└─Agreed- wind on wires, poles, towers, etc., is pretty easily handled. It's all the blowing debris, including leaf-bearing trees and limbs catching on wires and poles, that greatly multiplies the force.
[03:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:40:45] <exec> 08└─Teela Brown ?
[03:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:29] <exec> 08└─I'll be really impressed when I see a helium-filled consumer HDD. I don't think there has been a helium-filled drive intended (and priced) for consumers to date, but it's entirely possible that we will see that (helium allows you to increase platter density/count). AFAIK all of the capacity points a...
[03:41:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 1223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:30] <exec> 08└─Looks like 8 TB has dropped down to $160-170 several times (both Seagate and WD/HGST): https://slickdeals.net [slickdeals.net] The price per GB (or TB) has been incredibly flat compared to previous decades. 2 cents per GB if we go b...
[03:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:41:32] <exec> 08└─The glass they are experimenting with is 0.015 inches thick, "15 thou" to a machinist. And it's in a 3.5" drive, already in "inch dimensions". I hate conversions that give the dimension more precision than actually exists -- the mm dimension makes it look like the glass thickness is controlled to so...
[03:44:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:51] <exec> 08└─When you were a child, had they invented dirt yet?
[03:44:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:53] <exec> 08└─No, we only had sand. I refer you to the classic work on the topic: the Ψαμμίτης [blogspot.com] by Archimedes. Great read. He mentions me!
[03:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:44:55] <exec> 08└─You are thinking of Going Rouge One, the version with Sarah Palin in it. Yes, Caribou Barbie played a Wookie!
[03:45:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06UK Gov Passes Motion Allowing it to Pass Laws Without Parliament - 1290 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:45:54] <exec> 08└─> The Tories didn't win a majority at the election, but are now hijacking Parliament to try and impose their extreme Brexit on the country. "Imposing their extreme Brexit on the country". The entire country had an open and democratic vote on it. And they chose to exit the European Union. It's intere...
[03:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:53] <exec> 08└─Actually, that is EXACTLY the intended goal. PETA (and the Humane Society -- HSUS is just PETA in a nice suit) wants to make all animal ownership too legally-risky for normal people. Own a dog, slaughter a steer, ride a horse -- and get sued by PETA because reasons. That's what they want, and now th...
[03:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03evilcam [3239] (Score: 1) 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 472 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:47:55] <exec> 08└─I genuinely feel bad for the poor bloke who had to defend this nonsense. He didn't make much money off of the licensing to the photo (according to Slater in an article for the Guardian it was about enough to cover the cost of the trip) and lost shitloads in legal fees, just so PETA could, what? Big...
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[04:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:39:14] <exec> 08└─Does it come in a Star Trek communicator edition yet?
[04:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:39:56] <exec> 08└─Reality and the civilised world disagrees with you. As usual.
[04:39:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:39:58] <exec> 08└─Your point is well taken. Public utilities should be required to maintain their infrastructure. Full stop. If they're not, there's likely a problem with corruption in your local/state governments. That said, I'll just point you back to the last sentence in my original reply to you and assert that it...
[04:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:00] <exec> 08└─I fully agree- it's a problem of short-term MBA thinking (don't bury), versus long-term (bury them). And the better job they do initially, the longer it will last trouble-free. Everyone is talking about $. Our obsession with $ makes us look bad to the rest of the world. Can you put some kind of valu...
[04:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:15] <exec> 08└─Uh sir, have we installed the locator beacon on the cloaking device yet? That's scheduled for first thing in the morning, why do you ask? Oh, no reason, just checking (runs and hides).
[04:40:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:55] <exec> 08└─For starters, there is no AI.
[04:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:42] <exec> 08└─> I want to believe in a world where we pay 1 cent or less per GB ($100 for 10 TB). History lesson -- a college friend started a small company, must have been late 1970s. He bought DRAM from Intel in modest quantities and resold it in small quantities to early computer hobbyists. The name of the com...
[04:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:43] <exec> 08└─I don't trust QLC as far as I can throw it until there's some good, repeatable benchmarks out there for the stuff. Bear in mind for nLC SSDs there are 2^n values each cell has to store.
[04:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:45] <exec> 08└─You could say he's getting row-hammered? :D
[04:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:48] <exec> 08└─With embedded you should be running your OS with a read-only root, and have carefully dimensioned your storage writes to last the intended life time of the device. And, you know, fail gracefully when you inevitably run out of writes ahead of time :)
[04:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:41:50] <exec> 08└─The really bad ones silently change your data.
[04:47:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06RETGUARD: A Return-Oriented Programming Defense From OpenBSD - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:47:28] <exec> 08└─The idea is to separate the control from the data. That way malicious data is never more than untrusted octets sitting in a region where you should expect untrusted octets. Of course, if you're a shitty coder, you'll permit untrusted data to overwrite other untrusted data, and thus change the logic...
[04:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06PETA and Photographer Reach Settlement Over Monkey Selfie Copyright - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:48:10] <exec> 08└─Ah, an actual response! I will have to ponder this, khallow. Two initial questions: are you talking monkeys, trees, or birds? And, what exactly do you mean by "puppets" and "figureheads"?
[04:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Tesla Remotely Extended the Range of Vehicles So Drivers Could Escape Hurricane Irma - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:01] <exec> 08└─Guess you can't read either... Let me come in again... Don't buy these kind of cars. The "Market" will take notice. It works just like voting, only here you really do need money to have an effect :-)
[04:50:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Remotely Extended the Range of Vehicles So Drivers Could Escape Hurricane Irma - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:50:02] <exec> 08└─How's your Market working for you with other user-unfriendly devices such as Apple phones?
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[05:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:39:13] <exec> 08└─Water water everywhere nor a drop to drink that's why the plants crave electro-lyte
[05:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:39:21] <exec> 08└─No longer prisoners will have to rely on dumb phones from Amazon. [youtube.com]
[05:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 1102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:39:23] <exec> 08└─Other smartwatches [gizmodo.com] have implemented the Dick Tracy experience (badly). We'll see if Apple can do any better. Well, it has had the ability to make/take calls when your iPhone is in your pocket, so I guess they already have their take on the Dick Tracy experience. The real killer feature...
[05:40:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03frojack [1554] 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 498 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:01] <exec> 08└─So many of our cities have continuous sidewalks everywhere even out into the suburban areas. There's a thing called utilawalks where the sidewalk slabs can be lifted individually with a backhoe then replaced as easily after the work is completed. There's options for a knee deep concrete trench, pref...
[05:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03hopp [2833] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:09] <exec> 08└─Really the problem is the cost and right of way. The utility owns it's own above ground poles by me. For burial the copper is 3x as thick (because not as much cooling as non buried) and they have to get right of way on a bunch of places they already have poles.
[05:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:11] <exec> 08└─I agree on all points — and from what I've seen, almost every neighborhood built after 1970 in the SF Bay Area has underground lines, so I suppose we'd be a half-decent test. During the 70s & 80s we did lose power a few times each winter during really hard rain, but it declined rapidly after that...
[05:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:14] <exec> 08└─Really the problem is the ... right of way
[05:40:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 547 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:40:38] <exec> 08└─I agree with your sentiment, but Tesla and Musk have been very keen to promote Autopilot capabilities beyond what is really appropriate, in my opinion. When this crash happened, Tesla website was promoting autopilot as 'automatic steering, speed, lane changing and parking' Around the same time elsew...
[05:41:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 1815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:41:59] <exec> 08└─If it doesn't reach a certain level of endurance, it simply won't be adopted by enterprise customers. They are going to be the first ones to get their hands on QLC NAND, not you. And they have more demanding workloads (full drive writes) than typical consumers. Facebook is particularly thirsty for Q...
[05:42:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:01] <exec> 08└─I just saw a 10TB offered ... ah, hell, I don't remember which retailer but one of the consumer outlets. I rather doubt consumer and enterprise are different under the hood, at that level. And my first thought was... considering the *gasp* price of tape libraries, how exactly are we supposed to back...
[05:42:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:03] <exec> 08└─About the consumer drives, capacity/$ and higher capacity is the draw rather than speed. I think 20-30% reduction in cost per bit has been typical for each new generation of 3D NAND. I don't know if anybody has estimated a % for the first upcoming QLC SSD products yet. Obviously, you get 33% more ca...
[05:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:05] <exec> 08└─Yeah, to the point on which he became inert.
[05:42:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:07] <exec> 08└─Ok, there is this 10 TB HDD [pcworld.com] with no helium. And there is this helium-filled lineup [anandtech.com]. I guess you could call them consumer drives, but they are certainly pricey.
[05:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:09] <exec> 08└─Where *is* 3D XPoint, by the way? I remember them wittering on about how it was going to eat SSDs alive, but all that's out there isn't even bootable. Just some Optane cards that are basically the SSD portion of "hybrid" SSHDs on massive amounts of 'roids. When they can make a 10 TB hunk of 3D XPoin...
[05:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:12] <exec> 08└─Yes. Hindsight is 20/20. :) I'm doing so few writes to disk now that the lifetime is suitable. And, you know, fail gracefully when you inevitably run out of writes ahead of time :)
[05:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I won't be running out to buy them this week, and probably not next week either!
[05:47:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02 - 06UK Gov Passes Motion Allowing it to Pass Laws Without Parliament - 1289 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:05] <exec> 08└─In context... The UK gov called an election, an election they said they were not going to call... Along with months of basically refusing to talk about any policy they had, except 'will of the people' in regard to the referendum... They lost their majority and mandate to govern, and are now continui...
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[06:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:39:19] <exec> 08└─I'm going to investa in that idea.
[06:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:39:21] <exec> 08└─(No spoilers pls, I've yet to watch season 2)
[06:40:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:40:34] <exec> 08└─During a power outage, you'll have some splainin' to do.
[06:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:40:35] <exec> 08└─Bad news for you: If the light is not absorbed by your body, it will especially not be absorbed by your retina. In other words, you'll be blind, and thus not be able to see those women in the locker room. If you manage to exclude your retina from this, your retina will be visible, too. Also, just th...
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[06:40:37] <exec> 08└─That's what backup batteries are for.
[06:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:40:40] <exec> 08└─So your complete eye and a bit of the surrounding tissue needs to be visible for you to be able to see.
[06:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:40:42] <exec> 08└─Yes, exactly.
[06:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 1919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:20] <exec> 08└─3D XPoint [wikipedia.org] a post-NAND technology [theregister.co.uk] (also referred to as storage class memory [tomshardware.com]) along the lines of Crossbar's RRAM or HP's Memristors. It occupies a memory/storage tier in between DRAM and NAND. It is denser than DRAM, cheaper than DRAM, slower than...
[06:42:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:21] <exec> 08└─We all know who it is. *shakes fist at wonkey_monkey
[06:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:23] <exec> 08└─Barring the SSD going bonkers on you, if you mount your storage partition with the appropriate options to remount-readonly on error, you can have a watch for that happening and raise whatever type alarm is applicable. In the meanwhile, your other apps will get EPERM or some such when they're trying...
[06:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:45:03] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you could start listing the Android manufacturers that: 1) have warranty's longer than a year 2) support their devices with OS updates as long as Apple does (for example, I have an iPhone 5S, released in 2013, that I just updated to iOS 11) "got a broken screen" is bullshit. "X broke the scr...
[06:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Question Observations of the First U.S. Human Embryo Editing Study - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:46:22] <exec> 08└─Actually human embryo editing doesn't deserve much of anything including funding. There really isn't that much benefit to this technology for the stated purpose. It's easier to detect flaws than to fix them. So just abort the embryos with the flaws. If your genes are so crap that you keep producing...
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[07:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:17] <exec> 08└─"Apple, a buyer of Toshiba's NAND chips, reportedly threatened Western Digital with a boycott of its products if it took complete control of Toshiba's memory business" So you inform the competition commissions and then do it anyway. Seriously, who the hell wants to do business with people like that?
[07:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 1123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:19] <exec> 08└─People who want to stay in business? Informing competition commissions is unlikely to do much, because monopolies are tightly regulated but monopsonies are not. Apple has had enough purchasing power to disrupt the flash market for a long time, but no one has cared. Back when the iPod shuffle launche...
[07:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:39:38] <exec> 08└─Bluetooth headset? Pfft. How about we just implant a Tooth Microphone [newscientist.com] and Bone Conduction [wikipedia.org] speakers. The upgrades are expensive, but you can always reduce the extraction costs by getting into a bar fight.
[07:40:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:40:27] <exec> 08└─We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars for an urban county that at the time had 200k residents (and a very high population density
[07:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:45:08] <exec> 08└─That all depends on how locked down/bug brother/think of the children the new phones are.
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[08:39:21] <exec> 08└─No kidding. Trying to dictate the entirety of another industry because of your purchasing power, based on being a big player somewhere else, is basically the definition of anticompetitive practice. Nobody gives a crap anymore. Or maybe they never did. I wish we could live in a world where the same r...
[08:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 1478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:22] <exec> 08└─"It's generally bad for a business to depend on a single customer too much." Exactly. So staying in business means broadening your base and not allowing one customer to dictate your business. It shouldn't have been allowed to get to that position while it was just Toshiba, it prevents them selling t...
[08:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:33] <exec> 08└─That the resources are out there. We *can* be a space-faring civilization. What we need is the money, the research and the engineering to make it happen. So what the hell are you doing wasting time on SN? Let's go out there!
[08:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:35] <exec> 08└─Where there is ground ice, there is vodka chili cocktail. Where there is vodka chili cocktail, there is civilization. We found civilization outside planet earth. If we only found some civilization inside planet earth too.
[08:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:38] <exec> 08└─Grammar errors in the above post are caused by vodka chili cocktail.
[08:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:48] <exec> 08└─What a wonderful idea! Especially since we know that bluetooth devices are subject to immediate and complete pwnage [securityweek.com], as was discussed just the other day [soylentnews.org]. I wouldn't even need to go to the dentist to have my teeth hacked. I love this country! Oh, and I'd rather h...
[08:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:40:38] <exec> 08└─Can you imagine power poles in New York City? What an eyesore and a hazard that would be! A disaster for the property values, for the curb appeal. You go to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, nobody knows more about money. You go to the NYSE, nobody knows more about business. You go to Trump Towe...
[08:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:40:39] <exec> 08└─And if we go to your favorite place [untappedcities.com], there are powerful poles, but not electric ones!
[08:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:41:40] <exec> 08└─Two humans fucked up. Tesla^H^H^H^H vehicle manufacturer gets the blame in the headlines. Driver ignored or silenced the warnings, 7 times according to some reports.
[08:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03tfried [5534] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:41:41] <exec> 08└─Depends on the type of blame you have in mind. From a perspective of guilt, yes, clearly the driver is at fault for misusing the system. From a perspective of road safety, you will realize that users will be users, and a system that can be misused will be misused. But in particular, from that perspe...
[08:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:41:44] <exec> 08└─It the number one objective is safety, they wouldn't have built a broken system that requires humans do the one thing that humans are especially bad at, and computers are really good at: Just sitting there, monitoring traffic, ready to take over at short notice.
[08:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:46] <exec> 08└─What I won't do is trust that an SSD can last forever in a server, or even as long as a spinning disk.
[08:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:47] <exec> 08└─Buy the new helium-filled hard drives. I'd like to see dust try and get in there.
[08:45:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:30] <exec> 08└─Over here, a shitty product is expected to last two years (warranty length) plus a couple of days. If you convey an image of being a quality brand with a premium product, your product had better last a lot longer than that. If it costs five times as much as a shitty Korean product with crap capacito...
[08:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Comodo Caught Breaking New CAA Standard One Day After It Went Into Effect - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:37] <exec> 08└─Don't blast the carrier pigeon internet protocol. Oh sure, the ping times a crap, but the bandwidth is actually pretty good. (At least as long as you use the newest "micro-SD" extension).
[08:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Comodo Caught Breaking New CAA Standard One Day After It Went Into Effect - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:46:38] <exec> 08└─It doesn't bypass the usual checks for fraudulence.
[08:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Gov Passes Motion Allowing it to Pass Laws Without Parliament - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:01] <exec> 08└─Democracy is not about the decision being wrong or right, it is about how you make the decision. Saying you only need >50% to make a decision one way but >2/3 to reverse it is a pretty weird democracy.
[08:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06RETGUARD: A Return-Oriented Programming Defense From OpenBSD - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:37] <exec> 08└─I figure you could do a similar thing in software (i.e. block 'ordinary' instructions from accessing that stack) using syscalls, unless I'm missing something.
[08:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06RETGUARD: A Return-Oriented Programming Defense From OpenBSD - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:48:39] <exec> 08└─Market forces will always prevent us from having nice things.
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[09:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 2941 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:14] <exec> 08└─How do you EMP-proof a nationwide electrical grid? I think it would cost more than the grid itself. A power line on a branch cost you $6bn, how much do you think revamping every piece of equipment that deals with provider grid-power, around the entire country, to protect against a nuclear-level EMP...
[09:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 336 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:15] <exec> 08└─P.S. I just thought: Air traffic control: I'd be more worried about the planes themselves. Pretty sure they'd come down hard and fast in the case of an EMP attack and then taking off again won't really be an issue even if you did land properly. Pretty sure it'd just be an immediate grounding of all...
[09:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03gallondr00nk [392] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:17] <exec> 08└─The world will continue anyway unabated. So will humanity, even if a lot of us die. Humanity has survived without electricity before and will do so again. It won't be comfortable or easy for the majority, but then, it never has been. You can't prevent every possible black swan event. That's kind of...
[09:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:19] <exec> 08└─There are a few scenarios like this that would devastate our ability to feed the population. A supervolcano eruption is another one. The US government already has a large strategic petroleum reserve. Why do we not have a strategic food reserve? Some type of cheap high calorie material with a long sh...
[09:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:21] <exec> 08└─But all those who bet on Bitcoin as a post-apocalyptic currency will get problems.
[09:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:24] <exec> 08└─The canonical 'big one' in recorded history is the 1859 'Carrington Event' [wikipedia.org], and a large CME in the same class missed the Earth in 2012 - the possibility is well known to disaster planners. The problem is like an asteroid strike: low probability, large effect, and humans are not very...
[09:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomtomtom [340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 925 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:40:48] <exec> 08└─The labour and equipment cost of digging the trenches is the major hurdle - it's very significantly higher than the cost of putting up poles (perhaps 6-10x higher). Then you have the logistical issues of finding enough reliable contractors to dig those trenches in the first place. It's probably a 15...
[09:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:40:50] <exec> 08└─Everywhere else in the Western world, the power lines are underground (except the long-haul, 400kv lines). There are a lot of reasons for that. Damage is very rare, because what can happen? No more downed power lines. Almost the only power outages we have are planned ones. There was one about three...
[09:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:57] <exec> 08└─Dust typically doesn't get in, it's more often already there as a result of failures in the clean room process during assembly, and becomes dislodged during operation. This is just as possible with helium-filled drives. Being sufficiently enclosed that dust can't get in is orders of magnitude easier...
[09:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03tomtomtom [340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:46:23] <exec> 08└─Yes - many investments are in individual movies not a franchise/studio/whatever so why would they care about the franchise value? There's no benefit to them because even if they have the opportunity to invest in the next movie in a franchise/series, they get little to no benefit from having invested...
[09:48:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Gov Passes Motion Allowing it to Pass Laws Without Parliament - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:48:12] <exec> 08└─Yes, but if the government pushed such a ridiculous policy, then I highly suspect the opposition would propose a bill to overturn it. It is highly likely that this bill would pass through parliament and become law.
[09:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06RETGUARD: A Return-Oriented Programming Defense From OpenBSD - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:48:50] <exec> 08└─How? It would have to be written to when you make a call. I am not aware of some easy mechanism to achieve this. I double checked the Intel reference manual, and attempting a call instruction when the next stack location is a non-write page results in a processor exception. So if you want to impleme...
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[10:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:20] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure I just read something about Kaspersky outing a series of FBI backboors in a series of Microsoft products. If that's the case, it sounds like Kaspersky's a lot more concerned about actual security than the US government.
[10:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:21] <exec> 08└─Some time ago Kaspersky announced that it will release a free version of its anti-virus for rest of the world. I want to know if they followed up on that promise, because I couldn't find any free version from outside of USA.
[10:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:35] <exec> 08└─That terrorist Sun has WMD!: We need to take it out NOW! You either with us or again' us. ;)
[10:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:36] <exec> 08└─I think it would cost more than the grid itself. A power line on a branch cost you $6bn, how much do you think revamping every piece of equipment that deals with provider grid-power, around the entire country, to protect against a nuclear-level EMP attack would cost? The reason EMP is so devastating...
[10:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:39:48] <exec> 08└─Trying to dictate the entirety of another industry because of your purchasing power, based on being a big player somewhere else, is basically the definition of anticompetitive practice.
[10:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:40:01] <exec> 08└─I note that the evidence presented is consistent with any fluid containing hydrogen, for example liquid hydrocarbons. Specifically: * It is flat * It contains hydrogen * It can make geomorphological features characteristic of fluid flows. I didn't find the paper on "geomorphological features" but I...
[10:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Beam of Invisibility - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:28] <exec> 08└─Well no, because the lights will go out and it will be dark. Duh.
[10:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:42:11] <exec> 08└─No, anyone who blames the system for the driver who didn't use it correctly is a full time idiot.
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[11:39:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:22] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure I just read something about Kaspersky outing a series of FBI backboors in a series of Microsoft products. If that's the case, it sounds like Kaspersky's a lot more concerned about actual security than the US government.
[11:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:25] <exec> 08└─That nice Mr Putin would like to offer free security software of finest Russian quality to all good citizens, businesses and institutions of formerly enemy countries as a gesture of goodwill and reconciliation. Rest assured that nice Mr Putin will be looking out for your safety and security 24 hours...
[11:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:27] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot. The US doesn't trust Kaspersky to not do the bidding of the Russian government. That's understandable. But then: the rest of us don't trust US companies not to do the bidding of the US government. Actually, with those lovely National Security Letters and...
[11:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:41] <exec> 08└─All the air-traffic control nonsense? That can run on manual for a long time, because that's what happens when it goes down today, whether that's Windows Update or an EMP attack. A bit of disruption, some emergency radio kit, and you're back in business.
[11:39:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:54] <exec> 08└─Okay, that was hyperbole. You got me :) However, the examples you give are of a different nature. In this case, Apple is trying to manipulate the playing field in a different industry. That is a bit different than merely demanding suppliers give you a very low price.
[11:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:55] <exec> 08└─Toshiba tries to sell Memory business, but forgot where it put it.
[11:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 1144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:39:57] <exec> 08└─It's not very different. It's actually less bad in some respects: typically anticompetitive practice means that they're trying to get a monopoly. In this instance, Apple is trying to avoid anyone else getting a monopoly (or a sufficiently large share of the market that they can act as if they do). T...
[11:41:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:14] <exec> 08└─Try 10-100 times. Two poles that handle a hundred yard span can be set, spliced in, and powered up in a morning fairly easily. This is not remotely the case with any reliable and serviceable form of underground cabling. The really fun bit here is all the morons with their mega-urban-colored glasses...
[11:41:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:16] <exec> 08└─It's probably a 15-year-plus project to get it all done. ... The question is, who will pay for it?
[11:41:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:18] <exec> 08└─Try 10-100 times.
[11:41:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:20] <exec> 08└─For burial the copper is 3x as thick
[11:41:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:41:22] <exec> 08└─And, floods are almost the only thing that can damage underground lines. Earthquakes, but those aren't frequent, or especially catastrophic in most of the country.
[11:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 1003 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:28] <exec> 08└─I wasn't aware that pilots were expected to sit with their hands on the stick and their eyes on the sky ahead while the plane was on autopilot, so they could slam on the brakes if a 747 suddenly pulled out from behind a cloud... But then, driving is not flying. Insofar as it pertains to avoiding cra...
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[12:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:12] <exec> 08└─mullvad is one of the best vpns out there and they're going to get fucked if this becomes law.
[12:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:14] <exec> 08└─They must think "If it is us spying then it is a good thing. We're the good guys so it's ok". And that's ok until they really are the good guys, which is an assumption only. Then voting comes, other guys take their place and suddenly it's not so cool anymore. Arrogant ignorance at work.
[12:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:25] <exec> 08└─Anyone used the Kaspersky rescue disk? [kaspersky.com] ( Hat tip to an anonymous coward [soylentnews.org]. I really appreciated you posting your links. )
[12:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:26] <exec> 08└─Presumably, Russian anti-malware software will be diligent in recognising non-Russian malware; and USA-ian software will be diligent in seeking out non-USA-ian malware; so the solution would be to run both (probably in series, not in parallel) to give maximum protection. For the truly suspicious, us...
[12:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 917 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:43] <exec> 08└─By the way, a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection [wikipedia.org]) event (Geo-magnetic storm [wikipedia.org]) and EMP ((Nuclear) Electro-Magnetic Pulse [wikipedia.org]) are two different things, and can have different effects on infrastructure. It is not helpful to conflate the two. EMP effects include an in...
[12:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:44] <exec> 08└─If you had a duster such that you need to distribute that reserve you would lack the transportation to deliver it to where it was needed. The nearest town might do well but anyone else?
[12:39:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:47] <exec> 08└─The Sun itself is a big nuke. A hydrogen one, no less.
[12:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:49] <exec> 08└─(lol. DO you really expect someone to land a 747 from a signaller using paddles in the runway?)
[12:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:51] <exec> 08└─Stop being silly. Would you get on a plane if it were going to crash land in the Hudson as a regular practice? Could you afford the fare if an aeroplane were a use only once item?
[12:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 2338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:53] <exec> 08└─The risks from geomagnetical storms on infrastructure [wikipedia.org] will mainly affect long length transmission lines, especially the aerial ones. This is very unlike atmospheric nuclear EMP [wikipedia.org], the latter will have fast varying components able to fry even small sized electronics. In...
[12:39:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:55] <exec> 08└─I'd be more worried about the planes themselves
[12:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:39:58] <exec> 08└─But all those who bet on Bitcoin as a post-apocalyptic currency will get problems.
[12:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:40:00] <exec> 08└─Does it also have oil? If so, we could liberate it and bring democracy to the good people of the sun.
[12:41:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormreaver [5101] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:37] <exec> 08└─A few years ago, AT&T came through my subdivision, dug up every yard that had copper wire (which is to day, all of them), and replaced it all with...new copper wire. So no, the "too expensive to be feasible" excuse doesn't make sense. If AT&T, the corporate poster child of customer neglect, can do i...
[12:41:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:38] <exec> 08└─I know freaking MANAGERS who don't have a clue where to start!!
[12:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 1295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:40] <exec> 08└─Its not the physical labor, its the time and delay of onecall to make sure you don't hit the gas line, going across the gas line anyway so you need to hand dig that portion, the ground is frozen a couple months of the year here so you have fascinating fun with temps, you can try to scare the hell ou...
[12:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:41:42] <exec> 08└─The labour and equipment cost of digging the trenches is the major hurdle - it's very significantly higher than the cost of putting up poles (perhaps 6-10x higher).
[12:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:46:35] <exec> 08└─My phone's from 2009, and I still use it exactly as I did back then, as a GSM phone and a remote terminal to my home network, so I don't need a faster processor or more RAM. I'm on the 2nd one, and I have 3 more spares, so I expect I have another 12 years of the same usage pattern ahead of me.
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[13:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:14] <exec> 08└─> You want to think about how your end-user could misuse your code. And data, don't forget your personal data. Agent without data is futile but feed the machine and it will know you better than you know yourself.
[13:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:16] <exec> 08└─Guns don't kill people, code kills people.
[13:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:18] <exec> 08└─No problem. So all that GPL code installed in billions of device is now somehow responsible for mass packet inspection, filtering, tabulation, reporting, etc. ? You can take this to ridiculous extremes. And all it will do is make people be deliberately kept in the dark about what the actual end prod...
[13:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:20] <exec> 08└─I admire her optimism, but the reality is that if you're a programmer or engineer in the US, it's extremely unlikely you're going to be doing anything that's a positive for humanity unless you give up that profession and switch to some entirely different profession like medicine. Most stuff that's a...
[13:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:23] <exec> 08└─I adapted the Creative Commons Share Alike license a while back. It addresses this issue somewhat for FOSS developers. Feel free to take a look at it. [folkcamper.com] Any comments appreciated. Thanks! JMA
[13:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 807 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:25] <exec> 08└─Oh please. I only read TFS, not TFA, but it seems pretty obvious that she's not criticizing people who write code that is totally neutral (like the Linux kernel for instance) and can be used either for good or bad. Someone writing a networking device driver for the kernel has no control over whether...
[13:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:27] <exec> 08└─That's right, you heard me. I'm neither a man, woman, or human. I'm a fucking elephant and you either tolerate me and address me as king of the fuckin jungle or you shut the fuck up.
[13:39:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:37] <exec> 08└─They're so good that need to do it in secret! Such nice guys.
[13:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:39] <exec> 08└─Wiretapping is pretty old-fashioned stuff. President Bush did a lot, a lot of it. George W. Bush. To find out who brought down the World Trade Center. As if he didn't know! A very big surveillance of our citizens. Then along comes Obama, and you saw what happened with surveillance. And everybody saw...
[13:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:42] <exec> 08└─It's not torture when Americans* do it. *Apologies to Canadians, Mexicans, Caribbeans and all of South Americans. Of course referring to the Land of the Euphemisms, USA.
[13:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:55] <exec> 08└─According to the wiki they are owned by cisco
[13:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:56] <exec> 08└─I have used the Rescue Disk in the past. Its okay but its showing its age. It doesn't work on some newer stuff. Kaspersky's TDSSkiller has been a lifesaver but overall antivirus products are not as relevant as they used to be. If a system gets owned hard enough, its way too hard to fix it sometimes...
[13:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:58] <exec> 08└─ClamAV isn't too great, its generally too far behind the curve for me. If you're using it for mail filtering though check into this: https://github.com [github.com] It's the only reason ClamAV is worth bothering with on a mail system.
[13:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:00] <exec> 08└─even US own citizens can no longer trust the US government.
[13:40:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 2941 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:09] <exec> 08└─How do you EMP-proof a nationwide electrical grid? I think it would cost more than the grid itself. A power line on a branch cost you $6bn, how much do you think revamping every piece of equipment that deals with provider grid-power, around the entire country, to protect against a nuclear-level EMP...
[13:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:27] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure they'd come down hard and fast in the case of an EMP attack
[13:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:28] <exec> 08└─The answer to how the world would survive losing its electronics might be to ask Cro-Magnon man how he made do when his Twitter feed went down.
[13:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:30] <exec> 08└─How do you EMP-proof a nationwide electrical grid?
[13:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:12] <exec> 08└─Its not the physical labor, its the time and delay of onecall to make sure you don't hit the gas line, going across the gas line anyway so you need to hand dig that portion, the ground is frozen a couple months of the year here so you have fascinating fun with temps, you can try to scare the hell ou...
[13:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:13] <exec> 08└─Direct bury cable doesn't need armor. See this page [okonite.com] for Underground Rural Distribution cable. As you can see it is good for up to 35kV for subtransmission or distribution. Jacket is a special polyethylene blend. Toss it in a deep enough ditch (usually a minimum of 3 ft/1m) and cover wi...
[13:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:16] <exec> 08└─As an added benefit, little kids, idiot adults, and livestock will almost never come into contact with a damaged power line. ... With everything underground, a person would have to open an access cover, and get down into the work area in order to touch a live line.
[13:42:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:18] <exec> 08└─Some management type decided it was cheaper for them to just let my electricity get knocked out than to do proper maintenance, the same maintenance that had been done since the lines were installed in the 1930s and 1940s.
[13:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 1354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:12] <exec> 08└─I should have expected an Apple sycophant to reply.... Perhaps you could start listing the Android manufacturers that: 1) have warranty's longer than a year 2) support their devices with OS updates as long as Apple does (for example, I have an iPhone 5S, released in 2013, that I just updated to iOS...
[13:47:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 743 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:47:13] <exec> 08└─I view it as an experiment. We're testing one of the underpinning assumptions of the theory of free markets. Are people so gullible that it's possible to create the image of a premium product with nothing but marketing and charge for a premium product when the product is actually quite average? Is i...
[13:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UK Gov Passes Motion Allowing it to Pass Laws Without Parliament - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:49:47] <exec> 08└─On this side of the pond we have that strategy down to a fine are, push some kind of knowingly unconstitutional act "mandatory teacher led Christian prayer in schools" or something, then the supreme court gets good boy points for striking it down and the pressure group that likes it gets good boy po...
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[14:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:17] <exec> 08└─Food-like product, life-like employees.
[14:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:18] <exec> 08└─If these things work on an experimental basis, then I can guarantee you that McDonald's, Burger King, etc will be investing heavily in them and firing thousands of burger-flippers all over the US.
[14:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:34] <exec> 08└─Grishnakh Maybe a petty point, but you're mixing STEM with IT. STEM includes *all* technical and scientific fields, *including* medicine. Anyway, for IT: There is still plenty of good work to be done, and good work happening. It's just not the sexy stuff that attracts Silicon Valley VCs. Helping com...
[14:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:35] <exec> 08└─"So all that GPL code installed in billions of device is now somehow responsible for mass packet inspection, filtering, tabulation," If you consider all of the propaganda coming out of Hollywood (Ahh! Da hackers are going to take down dee grids! Oh Noooz!) then certainly there is a large percentage...
[14:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:38] <exec> 08└─The use of the word "blame" is usually applied by persons looking at a problem in a subjective rather than objective way. Which is to say if you code, you suck at it.
[14:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Offtopic) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:40] <exec> 08└─You're just jealous you couldn't get the government to chop your dongle off fer free.
[14:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:42] <exec> 08└─Heck, the entire IoT world has massive potential to make people's lives better, if only we can figure how to make it secure,
[14:39:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:44] <exec> 08└─I'd agree with most of your remark in general. I'd disagree slightly with "anything that's a positive" in that sophistry can game anything into being good or bad although on average in a realistic assessment is probably what you're aiming for. WRT to fields I've mostly worked in public utilities and...
[14:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:39:56] <exec> 08└─You nearly got me, i read half this post before realising who wrote it. Well done keeping it freesh.
[14:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:15] <exec> 08└─Being owned by Cisco is less of an issue when the software is FLOSS. Obviously Cisco could introduce subtle bugs, but it is more difficult when the users of ClamAV can compile from source rather than relying on pre-compiled binaries. This is not to say I think ClamAV is perfect - but it can be a use...
[14:40:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:16] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that. I know ClamAV doesn't tick all the boxes, but as I said in another posting, it might be a useful addition to other malware detection software. It's free, and might be worth the time needed to set it up.
[14:40:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:46] <exec> 08└─Banks will only ever forget your assets, never your debts.
[14:40:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:47] <exec> 08└─But all those who bet on Bitcoin as a post-apocalyptic currency will get problems.
[14:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:49] <exec> 08└─The US government already has a large strategic petroleum reserve.
[14:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:51] <exec> 08└─I think you replied to the wrong person. I'm with you. Significant EMP and everything stops working. You are back to making the tools to make the tools to....
[14:41:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Maddog [690] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:41:31] <exec> 08└─Watershed moment??? You mean just like the Gear S3 is already doing today. I'll admit I like having the ability to call from my wrist without a phone at times--but I don't do it all the time. There's a reason everyone doesn't walk around with their phones on speakerphone. Nice to see Apple is fina...
[14:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:39] <exec> 08└─I have worked in some places in Philadelphia where some old buildings have their basements under the sidewalks. It's a shame we can't bury the cables there because metal theft is such a problem in the city.
[14:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 4349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:41] <exec> 08└─I'd say its more like a difference of scale. One dude working alone can kinda wing it, a long term multi site eternal effort needs organization. Aerial work (fiber, where I worked) scales to "two dudes with truck" (well, fiber termination van, but whatever), but burial just covers too many human lab...
[14:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:43] <exec> 08└─Good job, Jacksonville Sheriff! pic.twitter.com/q6VKOvPKuU
[14:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:45] <exec> 08└─Hand waving obvious bullshit us 80% or more of TMB's commentary.
[14:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:47] <exec> 08└─I'd say its more like a difference of scale. One dude working alone can kinda wing it, a long term multi site eternal effort needs organization. Aerial work (fiber, where I worked) scales to "two dudes with truck" (well, fiber termination van, but whatever), but burial just covers too many human lab...
[14:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:50] <exec> 08└─Never. Knowing the truth and thinking with your brain instead of your heart are crucial if you prefer to advance society rather than destroy it.
[14:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:52] <exec> 08└─They have weather related problems where I am; sinkholes that open during the winter thaw can break the pipes. In my local municipalities we also have problems with forgetting where the gas lines are (since many of them were never documented properly over the years passing through many hands) and th...
[14:47:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03dr_barnowl [1568] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:47:49] <exec> 08└─Heh, I used to have to replace the batteries on my Palm all the time. But that's because it was a Palm III and took AAAs. And by "all the time" I really mean every 3 weeks or so...
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[15:39:21] <exec> 08└─True. Here I was hoping for the creepy robot overlord speaking over the headset version of Burger G. But that's fine. I, for one, also welcome our burger flipping robot overlords! The sociologically interesting thing about all this is that when you order a burger and there isn't one ready to serve y...
[15:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:22] <exec> 08└─Won't somebody save Flippy's eyesight?
[15:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:24] <exec> 08└─So your saying there is a market for real doll to expand into
[15:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:27] <exec> 08└─Well except for all the new homeless people, yes it flattens the social hierarchy but not in a good way
[15:39:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:29] <exec> 08└─I'm sure they'll have to invent some kind of degreaser-bot, or install some kind of grease windshield wiper blades in front of the lens, that will keep Flippy's camera lenses operating at peek flipping capacity.
[15:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:31] <exec> 08└─What on earth makes you think modern assembly processes do not include active feedback and response loops, including digitalized sensors and smarter-than-just-PID loops for decision making?
[15:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:33] <exec> 08└─Yes, edible self-cooking dolls, to feed the Hannibal Lecter in all of us.
[15:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:35] <exec> 08└─There are errors of commission and errors of omission. What I do not see is anything about how to clean the burger holder of accumulated burger 'droppings'. Cleaning the cameras of accumulated grease and smoke. Scraping/cleaning the grill. Granted, that is something that a human could be trained to...
[15:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:38] <exec> 08└─The places I worked there was no flipping. The meat went through a cooker on a metal conveyor belt / grate. Cooks a burger in 1 minute and you don't even have to catch it when it come out because it rolls off into a catcher. You just drop it in with tongs and grab it out fully cooked. Contact heat i...
[15:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:39:40] <exec> 08└─A human requires somebody else to dominate and denigrate in order to feel good about himself. [Citation needed] Perhaps some people feel they need that. I'd say such people need treatment.
[15:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:01] <exec> 08└─Speaking of dongles - Bradley Manning should be mumbling around Lucifer's dongle, explaining just WTF he/she/it is.
[15:40:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:02] <exec> 08└─The bitch ain't even a bitch, but the bitches in Gay Bay want to hear it speak.
[15:40:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:05] <exec> 08└─Ha!, here in Ontario one of the software providers for patient medical records just got slapped for inserting coupons for drug companies into patient files, good luck in the "Helping companies manage their businesses better,..." department this stuff is going to infect every aspect of anything that...
[15:40:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:07] <exec> 08└─Simple** indeed, particularly in view that many (most?) IoT gadgets require a remote connection to either function at all, or to provide the fancy functionality that distinguishes them from their less-chatty counterparts. Done. ** Note that I am disagreeing with you.
[15:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:09] <exec> 08└─The use of the word "blame" is usually applied by persons looking at a problem in a subjective rather than objective way.
[15:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:11] <exec> 08└─Most stuff that's a net positive for humanity (like, oh, designing a better laundry machine, or a smartphone, and other consumer devices that make life easier)
[15:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:14] <exec> 08└─Rather than blame people who write software, blame people who break laws and breach moral codes. It's the law-breaking / moral-breaching that matters, whether you write the software, control those people who do, or just say "Do this" to a random flunkey.
[15:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:16] <exec> 08└─Staff, whack his peepee! Someone is getting goofy with the spam mod again. Wonder if it's the same guy whose peepee you already whacked recently?
[15:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:29] <exec> 08└─That is exactly how they think. That is how they all think. If they, ie the "good guys", are doing it then it's all fine. If someone else, ie "the bad guys", are doing it then it's horribly evil and dastardly. It's the same with any sort of spying really, "we spy on our enemies, we are good, they sp...
[15:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:30] <exec> 08└─Putin on Snowden [reuters.com]
[15:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:32] <exec> 08└─Which is all from the perspective that Snowden was/is an American, from the comments Putin gave we can probably conclude that his opinions had been somewhat different if Snowden has been a Russian citizen and had released information about the FSB intelligence gathering operations. ... he agreed th...
[15:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:52] <exec> 08└─So, I was having problems with a Windows installation. I used McAfee to check things out, and I still had problems, just different ones. So, I used Microsoft's defender stuff, and it killed McAfee, but started spying on me. I grabbed Avast, which warned me about both McAfee and Microsoft DLL's and c...
[15:40:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:53] <exec> 08└─While I agree that is better, it's kind of marginal since the windows version is distributed in binary form and who needs AV software the most? and is least likely to have the skills necessary to check it?, it's not like Linux (or any of the FOSS)people are out there doing a code reviews of windows...
[15:40:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:40:55] <exec> 08└─How, exactly, would you go about performing this "eternal vigilance" you reference?
[15:41:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 917 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:12] <exec> 08└─By the way, a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection [wikipedia.org]) event (Geo-magnetic storm [wikipedia.org]) and EMP ((Nuclear) Electro-Magnetic Pulse [wikipedia.org]) are two different things, and can have different effects on infrastructure. It is not helpful to conflate the two. EMP effects include an in...
[15:41:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 3503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:28] <exec> 08└─There's a lot of misinformation in the comments and the original article is pretty breathless in the scenario it paints. EMP "proof" isn't warranted and may not even really be possible. When Mother Nature gets into a real hissy fit, the energy involved is so great that humans just have to get out of...
[15:41:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:57] <exec> 08└─The Subterraneans are biding their time.
[15:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:41:58] <exec> 08└─Well, I was looking for a place to comment, and you provided it. I always use ground ice. The kids like their ice cubes (sorta rounded cubes, actually, only the top surface looks kinda like a cube) whole. We always switch that little do-diddy back and forth. I'm going to like Vesta!!
[15:42:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:12] <exec> 08└─So you would stop using Wi-Fi if a vuln was found in it? You wouldn't use nanobots if they had a wireless communication protocol? Just allow the tooth cam to be updated using something that requires near physical contact.
[15:42:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:13] <exec> 08└─I've always wanted a watch that can run out juice after only a single hour of use. (or up to 18 hours at the absolute best) http://www.trustedreviews.com [trustedreviews.com] I was getting very close to buying a Pebble, but then...
[15:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:28] <exec> 08└─Knowing the truth
[15:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:30] <exec> 08└─Ouch. You seem to be talking about basically a manhole cover in the sidewalk. The city hasn't modified the relevant codes, and required those vaults to be elevated, closed over, and sealed better? Whoever thought that what amounts to a manhole cover would keep water out?
[15:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:32] <exec> 08└─Facts are not subjective and the truth is facts. I know this chaps the asses of the left, but tough shit. Mostly because someone other than the power company had to pay astoundingly wasteful amounts for all those easily accessible, underground routes to be built. By someone, I of course mean the cus...
[15:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Meet the New Star Wars IX Director: J. J. Abrams - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:14] <exec> 08└─"Great read. He mentions me!" You and The Orange One sound so much alike. Are you brothers from different mothers?
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[16:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:14] <exec> 08└─No No no No no no no no Yes https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[16:39:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:16] <exec> 08└─It's odd that this wasn't the default position. It seems obvious. It's indicative of the balance of power of all decisions I guess.
[16:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:18] <exec> 08└─Can we apply the same to hardware?
[16:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:20] <exec> 08└─What we have today, runs effectively like this: "We make the laws, and we license businesses to operate for the benefit of society and the country, as well as for the benefit of government. But, we will also create laws that allow some select few businesses to butt-rape the citizenry for profit." I...
[16:39:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03BasilBrush [3994] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:40] <exec> 08└─This would slow McDonalds down. McDonalds cook both sides of the patty at once. The grills have a lid with a second upside down grill in it.
[16:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:42] <exec> 08└─One thing it's known as is Keeping up with the Joneses. Not everyone plays that game, but plenty do.
[16:39:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:44] <exec> 08└─So you are dominating and denigrating those people by declaring that they need treatment? :-)
[16:39:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:46] <exec> 08└─That's what I was thinking. The McD-type places are already fairly automated. As someone else pointed out, a "burger flipper" would slow them down. What this kind of robot can do is make it possible for a single person, or couple, who want to open their own burger joint, to meet demand without havin...
[16:39:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:48] <exec> 08└─What the fuck. No, not everyone has a need for social domination. What, did your mother not hug you enough or something?
[16:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:51] <exec> 08└─Contact heat is better how?
[16:39:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:53] <exec> 08└─If these things work on an experimental basis, then I can guarantee you that McDonald's, Burger King, etc will be investing heavily in them and firing thousands of burger-flippers all over the US.
[16:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 813 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:55] <exec> 08└─"Burger flipping" is a retardation, not an advancement, in burger preparation technology. The "clamshell grill" long ago made flipping obsolete by cooking both sides of the meat simultaneously. There are photos of the clamshell grill here: https://proluxe.com
[16:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:39:57] <exec> 08└─Would you like gelatinous cheese-like substance on your burger? Will these burger flipping robots wash their hands when they use the restroom? Speaking of food-like product, life-like employees, cheese-like substance, from TFA . . . Hardware like cameras helps Flippy see . . .
[16:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 931 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:00] <exec> 08└─You'd still need to have humans at these locations, you'd just have to have fewer humans at these locations. At bare minimum you'd have to have somebody signing for packages and cleaning up. We're not likely to get to the point where that's not necessary for a very long time. Just have those folks d...
[16:40:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:02] <exec> 08└─Please, no degreaser-bot. That would put the human out of work who's job it is to clean the burger flipping robot's eyes.
[16:40:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 708 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:04] <exec> 08└─Perhaps if you've never tasted a properly cooked burger you might think that. A clamshell grill cannot properly cook a burger because it only cooks at one temperature and as a result you get this burger that's either raw inside or extremely evenly cooked, but lacking any discernible browning. The be...
[16:40:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:06] <exec> 08└─Ha. This is Timmy. Two days ago you ordered me to go sit in the corner. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[16:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:35] <exec> 08└─With or without ketchup?
[16:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:37] <exec> 08└─data kills people. A good time (as any) to recall the data poisoning attack [google.com] and generate as much "noise" as possible.
[16:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:39] <exec> 08└─The meme you're looking for is an attack helicopter [knowyourmeme.com]
[16:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:41] <exec> 08└─If you manage to poison Watson, it means Watson is unreliable to noisy data**. As such, the person who prefer to use Watson instead of a (classically trained) oncologist is responsible of the death. ** the noise can arise from many causes, deliberate poisoning being only one of them. There's no warr...
[16:40:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:43] <exec> 08└─[The Activist Public License] addresses this issue somewhat for FOSS developers.
[16:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:46] <exec> 08└─OK, so let's discuss a high efficiency clothes washing machine, connected to the IOT. You throw clothes into it, add some detergent, maybe some bleach, fabric softener, set it to do the extra-full thing with the water, extra rinse, extra-heavy duty dirt cycle, close the lid. Now, what extra function...
[16:40:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:48] <exec> 08└─In reality, the IOT doesn't offer any additional functions, to ME, the end user.
[16:40:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:50] <exec> 08└─We're all nerds here. A little blob of solder or scrape of a path in the right spot can make any IoT device an Internet of Service Not Available.
[16:40:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:40:52] <exec> 08└─You do realize your shitty font is a dead give away right? And what is it with you types, the story wasn't even about the sex change and you still have to harp on about it. Nothing screams insecurity like being bothered by a transsexual wanting to be referred to as their altered gender Did you get t...
[16:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:08] <exec> 08└─If this passes, say goodbye to all the Swedish VPN privacy services out there, including ipredator.se.
[16:41:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:09] <exec> 08└─It's never okay, because as soon as you start doing something like this, you necessarily become a bad guy.
[16:41:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:32] <exec> 08└─For decades, the US government has expressed distrust of foreign products. They find it a convenient excuse to justify use of Windows rather than Linux. Windows is made by an American company and that supposedly makes it okay and safe from cyberespoinage. Of course that's utter nonsense, but they ea...
[16:41:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:33] <exec> 08└─Simple! Candle vigil in perpetuity!! (grin) (just in case if you were asking seriously: start thinking, critically if possible, and don't stop. In a case by case basis, you'll find something. Especially if you don't expect those answers to be revealed to you as pre-digested solutions)
[16:41:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:41:35] <exec> 08└─Well, you could re-read Patrick Henry and Thomas Paine...but keep in mind that Thomas Paine died in a French prison, and the US govt. didn't even ask that he be released.
[16:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:09] <exec> 08└─It's okay, the US will just blame another country, craterize them, pat themselves on the back and feel better.
[16:42:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03BananaPhone [2488] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:10] <exec> 08└─Management at hydro-Quebec was warned about this in the 70s'-80s. Management laughed at the idea and the grid went down. To my knowledge, NOTHING has been done to prevent a repeat.
[16:42:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:12] <exec> 08└─A total continent-wide loss of electricity due to geomagnetic storm hopefully won't be a regular event.
[16:42:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:15] <exec> 08└─I don't think there were millions of Cro-Magnon men who had to be fed.
[16:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:17] <exec> 08└─DO you really expect someone to land a 747 from a signaller using paddles in the runway?
[16:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:32] <exec> 08└─Chaos? A bit dramatical, I think.
[16:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:33] <exec> 08└─When one of the companies that wants to buy you sues you to keep the process going, delaying the sale by a quarter or longer while your company continues to reel from a multi-billion-dollar nuclear writedown [bloomberg.com], and then that company gets threatened by Apple to not buy over a certain %,...
[16:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Radar Evidence of Ground Ice Found on Vesta - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:50] <exec> 08└─I've heard that space is pretty cold. Does it have to be water? Other "liquids" freeze into solids similar to water.
[16:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:06] <exec> 08└─No camera. Less space than a Neptune Pine. Lame.
[16:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:43:07] <exec> 08└─It's Apple, and this is SN, so there must be a walled garden somewhere and this is evil, proprietary, hardware that will control our minds and our wallets. Bad bad bad
[16:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:26] <exec> 08└─Damage is very rare, because what can happen?
[16:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:27] <exec> 08└─Mostly because someone other than the power company had to pay astoundingly wasteful amounts for all those easily accessible, underground routes to be built.
[16:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:30] <exec> 08└─The problem with TMB and Eth is how they often require line-item modding. One flaimebait chunk followed by one informative chunk, then by a funny quip rounded up by an insightful point, with a finishing touch of troll...
[16:44:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06One Powerful Cell Makes or Breaks Your Habits - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:44:39] <exec> 08└─G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate or "Pax" was a chemical compound added to the air processors in order to pacify the populace, by the Union of Allied Planets. An Alliance research team on Miranda discovered that the Pax was effective with 99.9% of people. It was such an effective means of pacifying that t...
[16:45:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:39] <exec> 08└─Are you from another planet? In our culture, the fantasized fucking of persons convicted of negligent homicide (among many other offenses), is universally male-on-male. I really don't think GP needs to worry about reproduction, although it might be good if they could stop fantasizing about prison ra...
[16:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:45] <exec> 08└─LOL, riiiight after posting my last post I went "hmm, maybe I should Google this..." and found all that information. It's odd how the 16 and 32GB devices have worse sequential write than an NVMe NAND SSD, but the read speed looks good. And the 4K, low-queue-depth reads especially. I have only a 20GB...
[16:46:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:46] <exec> 08└─I guess I think of cheap in a different way. If adding 32 GB of additional memory for about $300 gets me to market six months ahead of my competitor, it's cheap. Same with throwing more and more cpu cores at it. It's cheap. That, and the fact that it's not my $300 I'm spending when asking for such a...
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[17:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:22] <exec> 08└─Your right of course, it should be called by it's correct name FASCISM
[17:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:23] <exec> 08└─To which "publicly financed hardware developed for the public sector" are you referring?
[17:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:25] <exec> 08└─Could they give some examples of where this would be beneficial besides the pretty video? Like an actual article maybe? It IS pretty complicated. That's a really big suggestion. Software is hugely varied. Doesn't mean its a bad idea; I just want to know more about the proposal before I sign anything...
[17:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:28] <exec> 08└─Nuclear warheads.
[17:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 2625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:30] <exec> 08└─"unspeakable crimes against the physical and emotional being of others" Yes, that. Have you forgotten the dude who committed suicide, because the law enabled federal law enforcement to bully him into doing so? Do you have the remotest concept how many man-years people have wasted trying to clean up...
[17:39:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:32] <exec> 08└─While I [soylentnews.org] concur with your assessment, I wonder if the thread author does. How about it, fustakrakich?
[17:39:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:39:34] <exec> 08└─"Open source" is not enough; it must be Free Software, which is more specific.
[17:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 1404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:10] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's a natural consequence of the poor quality of employees. Back in the late 1970's when I was in high school, I swept the floor, collected and burned trash, cleaned restrooms, reloaded pop machine, etc at a factory that made dual chamber smoke detectors -- before these things became consumer...
[17:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:11] <exec> 08└─A clamshell grill cannot properly cook a burger
[17:40:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:14] <exec> 08└─But MUH FIGHT FOR 15 Yo! True minimum wage clowns is always $0.
[17:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:16] <exec> 08└─We get it... you're in Sales.
[17:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:18] <exec> 08└─It is a somewhat reasonable description of how a lot of this came out of a Utopian if terribly misguided ideal of freeing people from labour and drudgery, from AI to burgerbots but it's become a plague thanks to randians and misc other sociopaths
[17:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03AssCork [6255] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:20] <exec> 08└─One thing it's known as is Keeping up with the Jones's. Everyone plays that game, but not all of them know it.
[17:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:23] <exec> 08└─So your making a Modest proposal? http://www.gutenberg.org [gutenberg.org]
[17:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:25] <exec> 08└─Hey, I didn't say I approved of it. I'm just making an observation about how the technological species on this planet behaves. I wish I knew what to do about it. More hugs would probably help.
[17:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:27] <exec> 08└─I still don't see why you'd need a complex robot with failure-prone actuators (hostile environment) do replace a couple multi-zone conveyor-belt ovens. Tack some auto-feeders onto the ovens, and a few simple actuators on the output to direct the meat onto the bread and add the sauces, and you have a...
[17:40:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:30] <exec> 08└─That is called discipline not domination. It is easy for the child mind to confuse the two.
[17:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:32] <exec> 08└─>The best way to cook a burger is to grill it on low until you've got a color change and fluid on the top side, then flipping it > onto a hotter area for browning before briefly flipping it one time to brown the original bottom side. I always drop my steaks onto a really hot pan/grill to sear both s...
[17:40:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:34] <exec> 08└─Seems to be the general trend in US - they become more alien by the day. Looks like they are indocrinated in the idea of "competition is the only thing that matters" and, if the economy is down, they need to start competing in other ways. Just consider TMB and khallow. Even Runaway is mellower: prob...
[17:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:37] <exec> 08└─The grills have a lid with a second upside down grill in it. I'm surprised the robot doe't do it that way, actually. Seems a lot easier.
[17:41:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 993 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:17] <exec> 08└─The main thing IoT things can offer is connectivity when you are not at home. So an IoT thermostat, for instance, lets you see your house's temperature and adjust it, while you're at work (so you can have it set high while you're not at home to save money, but when you're coming home earlier than pl...
[17:41:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:19] <exec> 08└─We're all nerds here.
[17:41:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:21] <exec> 08└─Simple** indeed, particularly in view that many (most?) IoT gadgets require a remote connection to either function at all...
[17:41:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:23] <exec> 08└─Spam is for advertising, thinly veiled or otherwise. Spam is not for troll posts. And, good luck with 4chan. You may have a point to make, but you fail to make it when you overstate it.
[17:41:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:25] <exec> 08└─That is the goal of this spam, to drive away people the troll doesn't like. Probably one of the ACs that routinely get modded down as troll/spam for over-posting their nonsense and this is their revenge. Petty actions by petty people. I also have pulled back from this site, but most every other plac...
[17:41:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:28] <exec> 08└─This is likely someone who has bisexual leanings and is insecure about it. From what I've seen, people who are secure about their own sexuality and gender don't care what others do.
[17:41:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:30] <exec> 08└─See? The IoT scenarios would actually become interesting if those devices can actually be LoT (LAN of Things) with a "personal home automation server" under your control. But of course it will never be so if awaiting this functionality from the companies - apart from money, they are out there to suc...
[17:41:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:32] <exec> 08└─What is wrong with you? Oh, you're a recent account. My bet is you're the new name for an existing user that has gotten too much heat. You're fedora is sitting a bit off, just FYI.
[17:41:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 287 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:41:41] <exec> 08└─They must think "If it is us spying then it is a good thing. We're the good guys so it's ok". And that's ok until they really are the good guys, which is an assumption only. Then voting comes, other guys take their place and suddenly it's not so cool anymore. Arrogant ignorance at work.
[17:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:15] <exec> 08└─It's far worse than that. Panda Security is in Glendale, California.
[17:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:54] <exec> 08└─The article, though, is very wrong in thinking that you should just spend billions in case it happens, so that you don't have to go a few days without power.
[17:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 1276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:56] <exec> 08└─Internet routers and data centers are not what to worry about. If the US were to lose electricity for even two weeks, society would completely break down into anarchy and riots. And nothing would stop it. Consider. First is the hardship of not having power. But you still have your car. Until it runs...
[17:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:58] <exec> 08└─The reason EMP is so devastating is that though it's a small local effect, you would need to guard against it EVERYWHERE.
[17:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:00] <exec> 08└─So to prevent civilization-level catastrophe, all we need to do in advance is see to it that there is an adequate supply of spare transformers?
[17:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:03] <exec> 08└─People get by during long power outages all the time. Hell, there are places where people get by with no power whatsoever(India comes to mind) people are a lot more resilient than you might think. If the people in power make the right logistical decisions -- which I am very doubtful of -- things wou...
[17:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 509 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:05] <exec> 08└─Those people who get by without power are probably not in a dense population center. They are probably somewhat self sufficient as far as food and water supply. In a city, not so much. Even a small city. Also, you're saying people get by during long power outages -- probably because food, water, dru...
[17:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:07] <exec> 08└─Harvesting energy from the sun is discouraged, as it could cause it to collapse, as would our donors' profits.
[17:43:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:09] <exec> 08└─So you are telling me that this CME (mass, so it should be sublight speed) traveled faster than the speed of light (we are ~8 light minutes from the sun)? Looks like the CME took 3 1/2 days to reach us, which is conveniently inside the textbook range of 40-80 hours. The James Bay Network wend down i...
[17:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:26] <exec> 08└─They will do the same things for which Romney was accused. Pump the company, and carve up the corpse, for maximum profit.
[17:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:00] <exec> 08└─So you would stop using Wi-Fi if a vuln was found in it?
[17:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:01] <exec> 08└─I need to know your coordinates so please turn on your GPS (favor for the CIA).
[17:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:23] <exec> 08└─The problem with TMB and Eth is how they often require line-item modding.
[17:45:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:24] <exec> 08└─And you don't think digging a trench, laying concrete pipe, and being unable to ever service it without a major undertaking didn't raise the cost of your home significantly? Dumbass. Having to spend your personal money on wasteful bullshit for aesthetic reasons is about the advancement of society. S...
[17:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:26] <exec> 08└─Your example is NEW infrastructure, not replacing old infrastructure. There is a huge difference champ.
[17:45:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:45:29] <exec> 08└─And you don't think digging a trench, laying concrete pipe, and being unable to ever service it without a major undertaking didn't raise the cost of your home significantly?
[17:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:37] <exec> 08└─Sure, a literal airplane autopilot wouldn't do much good in a car, but there is a pretty clear analogy between "maintain constant heading" in the air and "stay in lane" on the road.
[17:50:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Long Should an iPhone Last? - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:50:32] <exec> 08└─Talk about an invalid comparison, namely the price of a high-end Apple phone vs a old, used Android phone. Yes, you can buy a cheap Android phone every year. But a $150 Android phone every year means that $150 is full retail and that will be one crappy phone, compared to the $999 iPhone. It won't ne...
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[18:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:22] <exec> 08└─> Enceladus has almost everything required for life as we know it: a source of energy, a source of carbon, and salts and minerals And no humans? as soon as it gets broadband (at EU prices), I'm moving there. That view...
[18:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:23] <exec> 08└─as soon as it gets broadband (at EU prices), I'm moving there. Latency will be a bitch... That view... Of what? The ice ceiling?
[18:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:25] <exec> 08└─I think the sentence, "contains the ingredients for life as we know it" is practically meaningless. My kitchen, with its pantry and refrigerator contain all the ingredients for a cake. Yet every night when I return home, I find that no cake has appeared. :-)
[18:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:27] <exec> 08└─You're just too neat and organized. It you stored your food in a giant heated mixer instead of on shelves and in drawers, you might occasionally find that some of the resulting mess is in fact pretty good. The metaphor is greatly helped by the quasi-certainty that Enceladus is not blessed, yet, with...
[18:39:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:48] <exec> 08└─To answer both of you (That silly AC will just have to read it here), I would prefer an A-10 Thunderbolt. You can use it more than once, and who doesn't want a 30mm Gatling gun? I wonder if there's a two seat version. For carrying the beer and steaks, there's the UH-1 Iroquois.
[18:39:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:49] <exec> 08└─It isn't odd at all. "Public money" refers to nation-level funds, usually, but releasing something "to the public" releases it to the entire world. If you develop 10 public projects and your enemy develops 1 publicly funded but private project, your enemy has the result of 11 projects with much less...
[18:39:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:39:51] <exec> 08└─When do we pull our collective head out of our ass, and put business in it's proper place? When the benefits dry up, when they cancel our favorite TV show, when we realize that out laundry detergent really doesn't give us *whiter whites and brighter colors* And you have it kinda backwards. Under Sov...
[18:40:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03pTamok [3042] 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 188 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:11] <exec> 08└─A human requires somebody else to dominate and denigrate in order to feel good about himself. [Citation needed] Perhaps some people feel they need that. I'd say such people need treatment.
[18:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:40] <exec> 08└─I think the low quality of service is more tied to the shitty wages. Crappy jobs are OK when you're actually gaining something from it, but the minimum wage is so low that people rightfully feel offended at being paid shit. The US is/was the economic powerhouse, yet millions of citizens are stuck wo...
[18:40:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:42] <exec> 08└─you're not the boss of me!!
[18:40:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:44] <exec> 08└─I consider "grill it on low" to be heretical.
[18:40:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:46] <exec> 08└─He'll grill them on low, for sure, and make them chew themselves.
[18:40:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:48] <exec> 08└─Maybe it's a natural consequence of the poor quality of employees.
[18:40:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah that's not domination. That's "douse your head in water and repent." Believe me, you are doing a fine job of lowering your own perceived social cachet in here without me adding to it...
[18:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 790 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:53] <exec> 08└─As the AC above me said, shitty wages are part of it. Real income has gone backwards, and the increasing GINI coefficient makes it even worse for those on minimum wage. But another really big part is the change in attitude of employers. I've been in employment long enough to have watched the change....
[18:40:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:55] <exec> 08└─will have several authenticity features, including the ability to arrive late and sneeze on the meat.
[18:40:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 617 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:57] <exec> 08└─That's not how cooking works. Cooking from the outside results in a heat gradient. The higher the temperature, the larger the gradient. That's how they can fry ice cream without melting it. They fry it at an extremely high temperature so that the inside is still frozen. In terms of the clamshell des...
[18:41:46] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 233 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, it's getting embarrassing. I used to try and recommend this site to people but can't anymore. I don't want it to reflect poorly on myself or to condone the nonsense that goes on in any thread that mentions a woman, for example.
[18:41:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:48] <exec> 08└─Spam is for advertising, thinly veiled or otherwise. Spam is not for troll posts
[18:41:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:41:50] <exec> 08└─No according to the admins or the moderation guidelines...
[18:42:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:08] <exec> 08└─To find out who brought down the World Trade Center. As if he didn't know! Was it the same folks that gave you those 83 gifts? [thedailybeast.com] Did you really need another painting of yourself?
[18:42:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:09] <exec> 08└─This is one of the sources for the linked article above. From: https://translate.google.com [google.com] It...
[18:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:23] <exec> 08└─There were a lot of them. But they were raised from day one in areas and lifestyles that matched the tech of the day. An EMP near Vegas in summer would cause 99.9% of the population to die.
[18:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:41] <exec> 08└─Toshiba's clearly got some wear leveling issues throughout.
[18:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:17] <exec> 08└─Sorry, no can do. You'll need to send an NSL to my mobile provider to get my location information. That said, you're welcome on my lawn. If you can find it. :)
[18:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:19] <exec> 08└─That's why you have so many limbs: a Rolex for the time (EMP-proof), a Pebble for the mails, a Gear 3 (or now Apple) for the calls, a fitbit for your health, and that monitoring bracelet thingy for your probation for doubting Apple.
[18:45:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 1114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:44] <exec> 08└─Yes. BTW, this is in Manhattan where space is at a premium. Though they also exist in the outer boroughs, just less of a chance to come across 480V on a residential network. They are junction vaults where service entry cables tie to the utility distribution or connection between runs of feeders. I m...
[18:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:46] <exec> 08└─+1. Most of our power lines (non-US country) are underground. I can't remember the last time we had an outage, it was between five and ten years ago. We don't pay more for power than I was paying in the US. So it's safer from disruption, a lot less ugly, no more expensive, and the power's more relia...
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[19:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:24] <exec> 08└─We should probably look for intelligent life on places colder or hotter than anyplace on earth. That way we can talk to them someday, but they won't be interested in moving in with us any time soon. With a great deal of expensive and dangerous machinery we have learned how to stay under the sea or i...
[19:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:25] <exec> 08└─to mars, thank the progenitors they parked the atmosphere in Saturn's orbit http://www.enterprisemission.com [enterprisemission.com]
[19:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:27] <exec> 08└─The metaphor is greatly helped by the quasi-certainty that Enceladus is not blessed, yet, with the presence of an Ikea.
[19:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:30] <exec> 08└─It would be interesting if we could imagine life forms that do not use photosynthesis as a source of energy, but rather use tidal gravitational forces to harvest energy. I wonder what such a life form would be like? Long? Would it be life?
[19:39:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:32] <exec> 08└─Ikea will not come to the Saturn area, out of respect for the untouchable flat-pack superiority of those rings.
[19:39:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:55] <exec> 08└─To that end, what would you do about 18 USC 922 [cornell.edu] of US federal law which has some pretty nasty punishments in store for unimportant people such as yourself taking possession of what is both a machinegun and a destructive device in the form of the GAU-8/A autocannon, without even conside...
[19:39:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 1491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:56] <exec> 08└─Can't argue with your statement that "public" means nation-level; at least without resorting to sophistry which would invite a pointless and circular debate. So instead, let me suggest a different way of looking at the situation: Why don't we strive to do things for the betterment of all humanity, a...
[19:39:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:39:58] <exec> 08└─god forbid the people that had their money stolen to pay for gov software actually get the source code! won't someone think of the slave children?
[19:40:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 1145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:57] <exec> 08└─You shouldn't do that. Searing does not lock in juice. The purpose of searing is to brown the meat giving it that delightful flavor. You do it in spite of the fact that it causes a loss of juice, not to prevent the loss of juice. http://amazingribs.com
[19:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:40:58] <exec> 08└─"Would you like fries with that?" can seem like an endless loop.
[19:41:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:00] <exec> 08└─What I do not see is anything about how to clean the burger holder of accumulated burger 'droppings'...
[19:41:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:03] <exec> 08└─Bullshit, undiluted by fact. I don't judge people by what they own. BTW, an apostrophe does NOT show plural, it's either a contraction or a possessive. The possessive would be Jones', the plural is Jonses. Your lack of basic written English skills explains your OPINION of what "everyone" thinks.
[19:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:05] <exec> 08└─Seems to be the general trend in US - they become more alien by the day. Looks like they are indocrinated in the idea of "competition is the only thing that matters" and, if the economy is down, they need to start competing in other ways. Just consider TMB and khallow.
[19:41:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:07] <exec> 08└─> there being somewhat more juice left over at the end than I want. a nice even cook I see where the discrepancy lies. My steaks are typically a few Planck lengths away from mooing. Rare to medium-rare, never disrespecting the meat I didn't get to meet.
[19:41:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:09] <exec> 08└─In terms of the clamshell design, those are never going to properly cook anything except an extremely thin piece of meat.
[19:41:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:11] <exec> 08└─It's all marketing. The former was when there was no practical purpose to pie-in-the-sky automation and robotics. Then one needed big, vague ambitions to get funding. Now that there is practical application to these thing, it's being marketed in a more Earthy manner to businesses which might actuall...
[19:41:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:14] <exec> 08└─We got browning in the roll-through grill, it had a broiler in top and on the bottom, it would get seared as it went past the hottest part. I also remember now that it would also toast the buns through the same machine but a different slot. Can't a grill cooked burger get seared?
[19:41:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:16] <exec> 08└─Isn't the robot taking cooked meat off the grill just after contacting raw meat? Isn't that a contamination risk? Shouldn't that robot spatula be heated, pressed to the grill or some other method of sterilizing happen before transitioning from raw to cooked meat? Looks like a bit more programming be...
[19:41:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:18] <exec> 08└─I worked at a Dairy Queen. We didn't have a grill when I started there (2004?), but got one a couple years later. It was one of those flat-top ones, and there was indeed burger flippage. We had a separate machine that would toast buns. You drop them in the top and they slowly move through it then fa...
[19:41:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:20] <exec> 08└─You dropped these: ' e ' e
[19:41:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 42 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:31] <exec> 08└─Guns don't kill people, code kills people.
[19:41:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1441 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:32] <exec> 08└─No problem. So all that GPL code installed in billions of device is now somehow responsible for mass packet inspection, filtering, tabulation, reporting, etc. ? You can take this to ridiculous extremes. And all it will do is make people be deliberately kept in the dark about what the actual end prod...
[19:41:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1661 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:41:34] <exec> 08└─I admire her optimism, but the reality is that if you're a programmer or engineer in the US, it's extremely unlikely you're going to be doing anything that's a positive for humanity unless you give up that profession and switch to some entirely different profession like medicine. Most stuff that's a...
[19:42:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 2073 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:15] <exec> 08└─I was unaware that FOSS was exclusive of dual license schemes? If it isn't, then clearly the authors right to discriminate is recognized by common FOSS licenses. The only difference in the case of the APL, is that the means of discrimination is well defined. If I should refuse explicitly to license...
[19:42:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:17] <exec> 08└─DIY doesn't really work for stuff like this, mainly because these devices are all closed and proprietary. Sure, it'd be pretty cool if you could connect these devices to your home server, which you can then access remotely with your smartphone. But there's a lot of engineering involved there, and st...
[19:42:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:19] <exec> 08└─Frequently, yes, but a lot of it also comes from people who are simply religious zealots. When was the last time you heard of an strongly anti-gay atheist?
[19:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:21] <exec> 08└─I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having...
[19:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:23] <exec> 08└─I used to try and recommend this site to people but can't anymore. I don't want it to reflect poorly on myself Exactly. In fact, I don't recommend *any* discussion site any more, except perhaps Reddit if they're looking for a very particular non-tech niche. I wouldn't recommend any tech news site, a...
[19:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:26] <exec> 08└─Spam mod is not for trolling? Really? You actually can learn something new every single day here on SoylentNews! I guess I should not have spam modded TMB for his contentless and lame troll posts.
[19:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:28] <exec> 08└─The parent post conveys a negative opinion about the technical ability of an area known for valuing politics (and style) over technical ability. Gender, sexual preference, politics and race are not mentioned. You make a comment that's at least accusing the commenter of being sexist. What is wrong wi...
[19:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 3611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe a petty point, but you're mixing STEM with IT. STEM includes *all* technical and scientific fields, *including* medicine. I don't believe this is correct. STEM, as the word is used in society and politics, doesn't seem to involve medicine at all; when people are complaining about the lack of w...
[19:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:50] <exec> 08└─you must attack now. they are obvious enemies of humanity. they cannot be reasoned with. the only thing they respect is power. show them the true power. show them the hell they want to build for your offspring. do it now before it's too late.
[19:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:44:04] <exec> 08└─The damage was done within 92 seconds of the CME's arrival.
[19:45:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:00] <exec> 08└─Exactly, but it isn't because this is SN. If you're a fan of Apple maybe you should pay more attention and stop treating critics like loons?
[19:45:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Watch Series 3 Hands-on: LTE Could Be the Watershed Moment - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:02] <exec> 08└─I think the people of the past had the crazy expectation that people would be in control of this wonderful technology. Not some slave tracking bracelet. Pitiful.
[19:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:29] <exec> 08└─Facts are not subjective and the truth is facts. I know this chaps the asses of the left, but tough shit. We like to see the evidence for a claim before we decide whether it's a fact or not. You have provided none. Put up or shut up.
[19:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Tesla's Semiautonomous System Contributed to Fatal Crash - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:40] <exec> 08└─Why wouldn't the AI in the software know about the 2 second all way red, or the extended yellow, and try to take advantage of it just like drivers do. Because auto manufacturers aren't stupid. Well...THAT stupid anyway!
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[20:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Satellites Used to Predict Malaria Outbreaks - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:22] <exec> 08└─The researchers look at the places where lots of mosquitoes will meet lots of people, and identify those areas as the likely sites of future outbreaks.
[20:39:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:38] <exec> 08└─Going for a cake right out the gate is a bit aggressive. Perhaps a tortilla first which can evolve into a pastry is more probable. Also, your lifespan is horribly short. The probability of this tortilla occurring is very low, but over 5 million years you might get something.
[20:39:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03ants_in_pants [6665] (Score: 1) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:39] <exec> 08└─We already know of earthly ecosystems that are completely isolated from the sun. They're pretty interesting, often harvesting energy from volcanic processes.
[20:39:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How the Cassini Mission Led a 'Paradigm Shift' in Search for Alien Life - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:42] <exec> 08└─Over the course of 5 million years, you might just learn to like whatever you do get.
[20:39:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 17 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:58] <exec> 08└─Nuclear warheads.
[20:40:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:08] <exec> 08└─Good point. I didn't even consider the implication to national security and the well-being of the citizens in a hostile global environment.
[20:40:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us [6553] (Score: 1) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 780 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:09] <exec> 08└─It's a beautiful idea. On paper. In practice, there are many reasons why we stick with proprietary software. One of the more altruistic ones is that requiring periodic updates to a paid company keeps the economy moving. Software which never requires updating doesn't keep developers fed anymore. (Eno...
[20:40:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:12] <exec> 08└─Depleted Uranium is perfectly safe. That's why we don't mind dispensing it in vast quantities all around the planet, and not cleaning up afterwards. Any oncologist claiming otherwise is clearly an anti-American Terrorist.
[20:40:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:14] <exec> 08└─> when we realize that out laundry detergent really doesn't give us *whiter whites I think I found the way to make KKK and neonazis useful :D
[20:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 2541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:16] <exec> 08└─The reverse is true as well. All public projects elsewhere are ours to use. That is the Public Domain, and it is available to everybody. I wouldn't worry so much about some code reuse in another country. Quite frankly, all the problematic code is going to be within AI, and *nobody* can read or write...
[20:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:18] <exec> 08└─I agree with you. Rape is an appropriate term to describe what is happening to us. Yes, it strongly evokes emotions and fears, but it is ACCURATE. All of the shit you mention is done to us against our will, takes away our dignity, in some cases takes away our autonomy, and by sociopathic fuckers tha...
[20:40:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:20] <exec> 08└─Plasma physics simulations for Xray transfer in thermonuclear warhead interstage material. Kidding.
[20:40:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:23] <exec> 08└─and you can hold that company responsible.
[20:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 2120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:25] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but bullshit. By moving large parts of the economy, you mean slave wages and the executives being vastly, vastly, vastly, overpaid for their anti-worker contributions. If we all had living wages and tremendously less one-sided duress when evaluating work offers, I might agree with you. We don...
[20:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:27] <exec> 08└─If you develop 10 public projects and your enemy develops 1 publicly funded but private project, your enemy has the result of 11 projects with much less resources spent. That's a good way to end up invaded and have your citizens be far worse off.
[20:40:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:29] <exec> 08└─One of the more altruistic ones is that requiring periodic updates to a paid company keeps the economy moving.
[20:40:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:40:32] <exec> 08└─If an oncologist does care about depleted uranium, it just means that it wasn't depleted enough before use. Toxicologists, on the other hand, might have a problem with it.
[20:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:42] <exec> 08└─Industrial George Foreman grill.
[20:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:44] <exec> 08└─No, cameras are one option, but a few of these [ebayimg.com] could help out the spatula.
[20:41:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:41:46] <exec> 08└─Don't mind Mcgew, even the martian whores wouldn't sleep with him so he's just cranky ;) but yes, not everyone does the materialistic dance. Some choose the less flashy "walk" and focus on enjoying the other parts of life!
[20:42:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 181 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:32] <exec> 08└─This is likely someone who has bisexual leanings and is insecure about it. From what I've seen, people who are secure about their own sexuality and gender don't care what others do.
[20:42:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 1527 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:42] <exec> 08└─I used to try and recommend this site to people but can't anymore. I don't want it to reflect poorly on myself Exactly. In fact, I don't recommend *any* discussion site any more, except perhaps Reddit if they're looking for a very particular non-tech niche. I wouldn't recommend any tech news site, a...
[20:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 772 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:47] <exec> 08└─but the reality is that if you're a programmer or engineer in the US, it's extremely unlikely you're going to be doing anything that's a positive for humanity... I must be really lucky then! (not sarcasm, I really am fortunate) I implement software and systems that reduce pollution and prevent workp...
[20:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:49] <exec> 08└─I was told it's for dealing with persistent and *off-topic* trolls. I did spam-mod his beaky carrion-molesting ass once and got a month's mod-ban for it, but it's fairly clear he just doesn't like having the truth pointed out to him :)
[20:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 886 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:52] <exec> 08└─Arrgh! Recursive comments! Now i can't leave this discussion until I get an error.. On-topic: Most mass-produced stuff (washing machines, a/c controllers, security cameras) are made from small components, in factories, in different places (often countries) which are then press-fit assembled (as chea...
[20:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:26] <exec> 08└─An EMP near Vegas in summer would cause 99.9% of the population to die.
[20:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:28] <exec> 08└─I'd be more worried about the planes themselves. Pretty sure they'd come down hard and fast in the case of an EMP attack
[20:44:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:30] <exec> 08└─I experienced the 2003 blackout in New York City. A giant triangle of outage covered the Northeast. It was summer. It took them days to restore power. Millions of people had to walk home at once. There were no riots or looting. People didn't panic. They handled it. Ice cream shops gave their ice cre...
[20:44:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:32] <exec> 08└─You can't fix everything, but you can mitigate some problems. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] Another Carrington even is going to hit Earth sooner or later. Just missed us few years ago ;) https://en.wikipedia.org
[20:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 1422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:57] <exec> 08└─this is hilarious I have never lived in a community in the US with exposed power lines. I live in a windy tornado prone area right now, and it isn't all double underground or something. everything is. the telco, even gigabit fiber internet offerings. it's all 100% underground. there are a few areas...
[20:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:59] <exec> 08└─wait that goes against tmb's statement that utilities are entitled to a profit. you're denying a profit AND not using their cheap lines!!
[20:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:01] <exec> 08└─wait that goes against tmb's statement that utilities are entitled to a profit. you're denying a profit AND not using their cheap lines!!
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[21:39:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:12] <exec> 08└─So he has no problem with US companies screwing over the little guy, but at least he tries to keep the crimes in the family? Oh right, they aren't crimes. We updated our laws so that Corporations can do whatever they want. Legal like. Nothing to see here, please kill yourself once your productivity...
[21:39:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:14] <exec> 08└─What the heck are you talking about?
[21:39:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:16] <exec> 08└─Would you like to learn about my new silk-lined tinfoil ? It comes in Yellow and Brown hues. Lattice sells a particular line of chips, which are very popular with people building for extreme environments. The US military and its suppliers would prefer to ensure that those chips, and the missiles and...
[21:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06NASA Satellites Used to Predict Malaria Outbreaks - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:24] <exec> 08└─Does that mean that, in order to reliably prevent infrequent epidemics like Ebola, one should ensure that we regularly acquire lots of Data ?
[21:39:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06NASA Satellites Used to Predict Malaria Outbreaks - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:39:27] <exec> 08└─They used to predict malaria outbreaks? What made them stop doing it? :-)
[21:40:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lentilla [1770] 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 1491 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:09] <exec> 08└─Can't argue with your statement that "public" means nation-level; at least without resorting to sophistry which would invite a pointless and circular debate. So instead, let me suggest a different way of looking at the situation: Why don't we strive to do things for the betterment of all humanity, a...
[21:40:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:24] <exec> 08└─The FSFE and FSF are separate and distinct organizations, even if FSFE is modeled on the FSF. They cooperate as noted here https://fsfe.org [fsfe.org] I only really mention this as I was surprised to see the headline in the queue, as I had not seen anything about it despite bei...
[21:40:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:40:25] <exec> 08└─The only license that would be appropriate for publicly funded software is public domain. Any other license, including GPL, BSD, etc. is just catering to special interests. The injustice of proprietary software being publically funded does not make open source somehow better than proprietary softwar...
[21:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:39] <exec> 08└─Yes, because you can discipline that which you have no dominion over. By the way, how's that whole North Korea thing going?
[21:41:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:41] <exec> 08└─It's not domination when I do it!
[21:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:43] <exec> 08└─The only thing I can think of is if you want to offer different doneness options. But, then again, that's not really fast food.
[21:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:45] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's partial fulfillment of one of humanity's dreams. For over a century we've dreamt of getting machines to do the work for us. The more, the better. Unfortunately, you and your regressive buddies are working hard to turn the dream into a nightmare.
[21:41:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 1769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:41:47] <exec> 08└─This has nothing to do with discouraging employment, and everything to do with factors inherent to capitalism. Basically, people are expensive for as long as you employ them. Machines are expensive once, and then fairly cheap to keep going. So if you are a smart capitalist corporation, you invest mo...
[21:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:52] <exec> 08└─Lol, if you don't get it then what's the point in explaining it? You're just as bad. Probably just another conservative techie that likes to insult anything from California. Sure the state deserves some of the flak, but the idea the identity politics trumps technical ability is as stupid as saying e...
[21:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:53] <exec> 08└─You are, of course, right. I never said all consumers will DIY. I only said: 1. is not that hard to start tinkering 2. I think that LoT makes more sense than IoT (on the line of: "Here's an idea")
[21:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:55] <exec> 08└─"Code doesn't kill people, data kills people." Data doesn't kill people. People are data.
[21:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:42:57] <exec> 08└─Freedom means that there are no restrictions. If you release your code under a license with restrictions, then you aren't releasing free software. In practice, it's usually not possible to have no restrictions, due to various legal and practical issues. So the baseline is set by licenses that includ...
[21:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:36] <exec> 08└─An EMP blast generated by a nuke is not a small local effect by any measure of the word. Tests have knocked out power for thousands of square miles.
[21:44:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:44:56] <exec> 08└─So buying up their competition makes sense for WD. However it will both: - drive up prices. - possibly crater WD The problem being that memory fabs are expensive and if Samsung finds a way to make it cheaper and large enough volume, all of WDs vertical products could become either old/sl...
[21:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 1487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:23] <exec> 08└─Come now, you don't need to unduly denigrate me, and I've experienced quite a few other failure modes. SSD is a bit different. As for experience, I've had spinning drives operating 10 years or more before failure, and some enterprise expensive drives win the fucking lottery for MTBF and die early an...
[21:49:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Glass Substrate Could Enable Hard Drives With 12 Platters - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:25] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the suggestions :)
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[22:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:17] <exec> 08└─From the way it's told, it's amazing that any of those "students" ever got any work done.
[22:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:27] <exec> 08└─They would also prefer that Lattice's customers don't talk to a foreign company, and give away secrets through the requirements they place on new chips from Lattice.
[22:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:29] <exec> 08└─But but but, what about the LGBT community. Evil Trump, no consideration for minorities.
[22:39:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:31] <exec> 08└─Next on the TODO list: When you outsource your IT to a foreign country, you open your entire network to a foreign government. The cost savings (maybe even subsidized by foreign intelligence services) are great for the CEO's short-term thinking, but may doom the American company. This needs to stop....
[22:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:33] <exec> 08└─Unless, of course, Gowin will now receive a fat check from the PRC to develop and flood the market with similar FPGA\ASICs.
[22:39:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:35] <exec> 08└─Why?
[22:39:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Blocks Acquisition of Lattice Semiconductor - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:38] <exec> 08└─Why would your firewall protect your data? The CEO said "push it all to the cloud".
[22:42:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03PocketSizeSUn [5340] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:03] <exec> 08└─Yes this is a lot closer to what happened. The social contract of mobility within the workplace has evaporated ... somewhere in the late 80s. There was time when you started at the bottom, worked hard, got recognized rewarded and worked for the same company until you retired. Now that kind of loyalt...
[22:42:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:04] <exec> 08└─...a few Planck lengths away from mooing.
[22:42:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Burger-Flipping Robot Will Grill Meat in 50 Fast Food Restaurants - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:06] <exec> 08└─Sure, just replace curly fries with recursive fries.
[22:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:14] <exec> 08└─How is it that this particular group of folks, who revolted against Slashdot over a GUI change, is perfectly fine with Admins directly manipulating moderation and the mod-pool? If Slashdot pulled this crap people would be freaking the hell out!
[22:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:16] <exec> 08└─Before introducing another license, please read https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[22:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 1963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:38] <exec> 08└─What about President Obama? The Saudis gave him golf clubs. A terrific set of golf clubs. And a horse sculpture. Silver horses with diamonds, tsavorites, yellow sapphires, rubies and obsidian. Very nice, very valuable! A very nice gift to our worst President. Who, if #CrookedHillary had won, would b...
[22:43:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sweden Doubles Down on Data Retention Surveillance - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:43:39] <exec> 08└─"If he had been Boris Snowden from Russia and he had worked at FSB or SVR the Russians would have hated him for doing what he did," you wrote. Putin said of Snowden, "He shouldn’t have done it (leaked secrets). My view is that what he did was wrong."
[22:45:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:19] <exec> 08└─It's not lost, but apparently access to it is pretty random.
[22:45:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chaos as Toshiba Tries to Sell Memory Business - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:20] <exec> 08└─Wow, just gotta ram them puns in any way you can.
[22:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Waymo v. Uber Continues, Will Not Move to Arbitration - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:07] <exec> 08└─Was it not in their clickwrap agreement?
[22:47:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Should the US Put Power Lines Underground? - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:32] <exec> 08└─I invite you to come see Yurop and marvel at our inner-city power lines. It will be a rather quick tour, promise! Oh, BRB, thunderstorm. Gotta unplug all the electronics so lightning won't fry everything. And get the car into a safe spot so cables or poles won't bash the shit out of it when they fal...
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[23:39:15] <exec> 08└─Although they are often confused, this is good example of how leftism is very different from liberalism. Leftists are not liberals. Liberals support individuality and non-conformity. Leftists, on the other hand, abhor such shows of individuality and creativity. Liberalism is about freedom. Leftism i...
[23:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:17] <exec> 08└─Like the summary says, some didn't get any work done - Some did drugs and dropped out.
[23:39:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:19] <exec> 08└─"We lived here, you didn't..."
[23:39:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:21] <exec> 08└─Genius? No, just 99% perspiration and focus. Most of us got our work done, just didn't get much sleep...what with neighbors wandering through our rooms (master key) at all odd hours.
[23:39:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:23] <exec> 08└─Yeah, kids these days -- that is just from a few years ago.
[23:39:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:26] <exec> 08└─What was it like to use the communal washrooms with such little privacy?
[23:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:28] <exec> 08└─There have been Fascist in power in America since Reagan at least, the war on freedom has been increased because DATA and libertarianism has been equated as some sort of anarchism instead as the total fascism that it is, so OBEY and STFU you all people that post here are responsible for the fall of...
[23:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:30] <exec> 08└─Was that video filmed at the Mozilla offices? That's how I've always pictured them behaving there.
[23:39:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:33] <exec> 08└─What. It is leftists who are trying to suppress free speech on campuses and online. It is leftists who are trying to push political correctness on everybody. It is leftists who accuse everybody else of racism and sexism and intolerance and bigotry. It is leftists who falsely accuse everybody else of...
[23:39:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06At MIT, Senior House is No More - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:39:35] <exec> 08└─It is leftists who are trying to suppress free speech on campuses and online.
[23:40:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:40:57] <exec> 08└─If you exclude military software (which the premise in TFA does) you are left with very little software that is really usable outside of the targeted sector it was designed for. Most public funded software is not designed for the "public sector" (however vaguely you want to define that. So what are...
[23:40:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06FSF Campaign : Public Money Should Mean Public Code - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:40:58] <exec> 08└─Military software was already ruled out.
[23:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:30] <exec> 08└─I'm pro-science, anti-religion, and yet I'm almost all those other things that you hate. I'll grant you the Moon landing. MAGA FYI about the climate change: It is certain that humans have some effect. The evidence that this effect is severe or undesirable is weak and tainted. Even if we were clearly...
[23:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:31] <exec> 08└─And even worse, none of those crazy idiots are tolerant like us Superior Liberals! We need to purge them all in the spirit of togetherness and brotherhood. No longer will we sit idly by while crimethink runs rampant among the proles.
[23:43:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:34] <exec> 08└─How can you tell that the Slashdot admins don't do this kind of thing?
[23:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:36] <exec> 08└─> and the machine learns that killing humans is the best way to achieve it. Who is to blame... Blamed for discovering the truth? This is galileo all over again :(
[23:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Chelsea Manning, Newly Freed from Military Prison, Speaks in San Francisco - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:43:38] <exec> 08└─> Any license that isn't at least as free as the BSD or the MIT licenses, for example, is not a free software license. This includes the GPL. It has far more restrictions The 90s called, they want their GPL argument back. There are two islands. Island one has the following law: do what you want. Isl...
[23:44:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Federal Government, Concerned About Cyberespionage, Bans Use of Kaspersky Labs Products - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:27] <exec> 08└─If we assume Kaspersky doesn't detect Russian Malware, and American products don't detect US Government Malware, then running both of them might actually make sense. But it makes far more sense to just come out and ban Windows in any critical government system. On the other hand, as someone who used...
[23:45:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:21] <exec> 08└─The point is not the loss but the ability to recover. You don't think stuff will work again, just like that, after the event do you? After the event where are you going to get your next watt from when all the generators are burnt out and you have lost the capability to build more. How do you rebuild...
[23:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score: 1) 02 - 06If America Lost Its Electricity to an Electromagnetic Shock - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:23] <exec> 08└─No comparison. It still had its electronics I assume. Isn't a 767 a fly-by-wire aircraft? Without power it would be dead in the air.
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