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[00:25:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:19] <exec> 08└─I would think 10% loss in power would be unacceptably high. I guess not.
[00:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:20] <exec> 08└─To an engineer, a ten percent loss would be unacceptable. To marketing droids, it means nothing. As long as they have an angle with which to sell stuff, they are happy. To end users, a loss of efficiency means nothing. They see "ooohhh, PRETTY!" So, solar panels become the new bling. I've never thou...
[00:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:29] <exec> 08└─CPU and memory chips have surpassed their "fundamental limits" many times over. I'm sure machine learning will do the same.
[00:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:31] <exec> 08└─It was possible to spot trends in the market before high speed trading and computers intentionally randomized market behaviour
[00:26:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:05] <exec> 08└─As for the argument about maintaining sovereignty, the best way you do that is to try to have good relations with all your neighbors. Or have good relations with allies that will help you maintain your sovereignty...
[00:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:07] <exec> 08└─"I am not nearly as concerned about Iran's weapons falling into the wrong hands." So, the fact that Iran has suffered two regime changes within living memory means nothing? Three times if you can find a really old man/woman. What happens if the current ayatollahs are all executed for being to modera...
[00:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 934 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:09] <exec> 08└─> Iran says the missiles it has tested are not designed to carry nuclear warheads and insists its nuclear programme is entirely peaceful. Iran needs energy. They have no oil, nor sun. All that remains is nuclear. Hence the peaceful nuclear programme. The expertise needed to develop missiles is compl...
[00:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03i286NiNJA [2768] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:48] <exec> 08└─I never said there was anything concrete but you can clearly observe the collaboration of FSB and right wing media you can see putin himself making sarcastic remarks about our election well before russian interference was a news topic way back when trump was still a joke. Hacking the DNC is exactly...
[00:26:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03i286NiNJA [2768] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:49] <exec> 08└─The first part I'd buy. It's going to be difficult to get concrete evidence. But how do you refute being hacked by an advanced persistent threat? It's practically impossible. So I know you're a liar.
[00:26:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:52] <exec> 08└─As the red states exploit themselves into poverty and those with a clue move into the blue zones... eventually you'll be poor enough to clean our shitters and support our sex tourism. Then it'll be time to build the wall. Maybe we'll even put a statue of lee on top to be nice.
[00:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:54] <exec> 08└─What is with the bold block font for the headlines? Never before have I seen such on SoylentNews, at least not in the body. Do the eds think we will not pay enough attention? Or are we trying to be alt-right media, now?
[00:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03srobert [4803] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:26:56] <exec> 08└─My analogy is that a peeping Tom looks into a window and sees a child being abused. He reports it to the police, thus exposing his own misbehavior. The child abuser gets the neighborhood all up in arms about the peeping Tom that's been "invading our privacy". Somehow everyone forgets about the child...
[00:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:13] <exec> 08└─Thanks!
[00:28:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:15] <exec> 08└─So you are saying the recent web changes allow the easy use of DRM when there is no actual R to M. The would add the force of law to prevent use for stuff where use is otherwise fair. Surely there must be something in the DMCA to prevent this. If not, then maybe this use case is a test case for a DM...
[00:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:28:17] <exec> 08└─I just had a whole page filled with interesting stuff about DDG. Go to DDG (or just about any other search engine) and type "how does duckduckgo work". I just finished a tutorial on techboomer's site, and closed all the open tabs. There's a good deal of stuff I didn't know. There's probably more, bu...
[00:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:16] <exec> 08└─You could compare Cuba and Haiti.
[00:29:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:29:17] <exec> 08└─I think it's the same reason the affidavit for the warrant is also sealed - naming names at this point could compromise an ongoing investigation. They know their is evidence of criminal activity and do not want to reveal their knowledge of exactly how much they know and about whom, yet.
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[01:25:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 4, Funny) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:15] <exec> 08└─Went to Kohl's, which has 2 parking spaces labelled "Charging, green cars only". A green Dodge Charger was parked there. Didn't hit me til later, wish I'd taken a pic.
[01:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:16] <exec> 08└─I've never thought about it, really, but how durable are solar panels?
[01:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:27] <exec> 08└─Agree. Computing is only about a half century old. The availability of computers to us common people is less than that. It's a bit arrogant to assume that we know all there is to know about computing. That applies to AI even more. Take a corporation like Google. They work with state of the art hardw...
[01:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:25:29] <exec> 08└─Even if a machine brain can never be sufficiently smarter than a human, a machine brain has the advantage that the best brain at a task/domain can be replicated millions of times. Think of a city full of Einsteins. Apple could have 1,000 Steve Jobs working on consumer products. Linus Torvalds could...
[01:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:09] <exec> 08└─In general it seems that governments, particularly the U.S., forget that actions have consequences. In 1953 Mohammad Mosaddegh [wikipedia.org] was overthrown at the instigation of U.S. and U.K. intelligence services. Then in 1979 the revolution came and who is in power? The Ayatollah Khomeini, who...
[01:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:10] <exec> 08└─"What happens if the current ayatollahs are all executed for being to moderate?" I assume you meant 'too moderate.' Not only does it look very unlikely at present (the country has been consistently electing moderate-reformists and liberalizers) but the only way that it would seem plausible in the fu...
[01:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:12] <exec> 08└─The US promotes democracy and peace, which is why it's allied with Saudi Arabia, a country that also funds terrorism. I'm sure Iran would be even more unstable had the US not overthrown their democracy a long time ago.
[01:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:56] <exec> 08└─You realize there's a difference between actual and theoretical throughput right?
[01:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:58] <exec> 08└─The definition of the character required to be a spy is: someone who is duplicitous, underhanded, secretive, and above all, the ability to lie, subvert, misdirect and conceal whilst maintaining anonymity, and if caught, a straight face. Putting your trust in these kinds of people is foolish at best.
[01:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:00] <exec> 08└─Indeed Bold is synonymous with heading the Alt-right.
[01:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06North Korea Signals De-Escalation on Guam - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:27:59] <exec> 08└─Venezuela does have a dictator. And plenty of beautiful oil. And yet they have a lot, a lot of problems. I'll tell you, it's hard to understand. But we can fix those problems with our military. Just like we won in Korea. It's gonna be great. 🇺🇸
[01:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:28:21] <exec> 08└─When I try to use Google via Tor I often get a 403 Forbidden error page; Yahoo's search engine often returns "error 999" which is their (non-standard) way of telling me the same thing. It's very common for Web sites to restrict access, such as by trying to prevent bulk downloading or "scraping." The...
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[01:29:11] <exec> 08└─The warrant authorizes search of the data of individuals who are in no way known to be involved. The 4th specifically requires probable cause, oath or affirmation. These are not present. So yes, it absolutely is a fishing expedition. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, pap...
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[02:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:22] <exec> 08└─The internals of *real* progress scare people. Sure, the diction might be a little coarse, but I can say from experience that this is how real minds interact. "Take over the world", "mastermind some shit", this is the stuff of dreams. Let's not let our tender sensibilities get in the way of the way...
[02:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:24] <exec> 08└─The difference is, not everyone* gets so excited and haughty in these sessions that they completely ignore morality and the law. Haha! Laws! Screw them, let the legal team deal with it later! *More and more all the time though.
[02:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:35] <exec> 08└─You mean this one? http://karmadecay.com [karmadecay.com]
[02:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:36] <exec> 08└─While photovoltaic cells' degradation models aren't as well understood as plants' chlorophyll photodamage, and although the chemistry is completely different, seeing how UV radiation and heat are understood to be the biggest damage source for both*, it's entirely possible repeating nature's course t...
[02:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:38] <exec> 08└─What if I told you that Tesla wasn't pumping energy into the air, he was pulling direct current out of the air, converting it to alternating current with a spark gap, and then using receiver coils to pick up the AC EM waves generated by his Tesla coil? Yeah, I know, sounds crazy until you actually m...
[02:26:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 309 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:45] <exec> 08└─Since we already know the NSA, etc. lie to congress and the public, who should we believe? And of course the DNC doesn't like it when someone rains on their narrative. After reading some of the emails, I sure as hell am not going to believe them. They are engaging in pure distraction with this Russi...
[02:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:16] <exec> 08└─there is proof
[02:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:27:18] <exec> 08└─ven though he was leaving office, his cronyism didn't end. Of course not. He's now getting paid $400,000 to give a speech on Wall Street. Nobody thinks he has anything to say that's worth $400k as they asked valuable questions like what he missed about the White House and he reminisced over aestheti...
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[03:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:21] <exec> 08└─If you consider stealing your ex-employers designs as "real progress". An alternative would have been to stay at Google and build the f*cking cars we keep hearing about.
[03:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:22] <exec> 08└─"Mastermind some shit" is stereotypical youthful bravado. It doesn't mean shit, just like Stewie Griffin's continual attempts to murder his mother and take over the fucking world. This is locker room banter. Put it in perspective, motherfucker.
[03:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 1138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:24] <exec> 08└─Masterminding a plan to take over the world with robots may be how successful sociopaths plan their businesses. It is certainly not how i've ever approached any of my work projects or discussions with business partners. Maybe that's why i'm not on that level of success and making that kind of 'progr...
[03:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:26] <exec> 08└─Give yourself some perspective. Do those "stupid fucks" not trust the Zuck? Look at the unwashed masses filling social media!! Did he not have some sense of perspective in believing that those same unwashed masses would file in one by one to reveal themselves to the machine?
[03:25:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:44] <exec> 08└─If the green, white and red are the right shades for the Mexican flag, I'm very interested in these new solar panels. For a major construction project I'm planning. If they have transparent ones too, that will be perfect. For safety reasons I want transparent panels. 🇺🇸
[03:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Virindi [3484] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:46] <exec> 08└─Seems like a decent idea, but I am skeptical about the concept of white panels. The amount of energy being reflected would have to be pretty high for it to look white when illuminated with direct sunlight, and standard panels do not really collect much outside of visible light (there are many promis...
[03:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:58] <exec> 08└─This is all well and good until I utter the magic words: Specialization of Labor Then suddenly the "universal learner" doesn't have to be good at ever single thing.
[03:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:25:59] <exec> 08└─Party A: The meta-data and forensics seems to imply it is the Russian! Trump is clearly a Russian sock puppet! Party B: Hmmm, this bit of meta-data seems to refute that claim. Party A: Duh! Meta-data is falsifiable! It is not good enough to debunk our claim which has a strong data & science behind i...
[03:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Made to Suspend Operations in the Philippines - 1222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:26:14] <exec> 08└─The Philippines, like many developing nations, has an incredibly corrupt transportation system. Taxi scams are standard. Ooo? Meter, no no - meter broke. Oooo we used AC? Big extra fee. Ooo two people? Big extra fee. This isn't just a heh heh, come on - gimme a bit more. Drivers will use intimidatio...
[03:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:30] <exec> 08└─non-partisan intelligence agencies
[03:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:32] <exec> 08└─I've been doing that my entire life!
[03:27:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:34] <exec> 08└─> If your point is true, then it would be significant. But the stories (well, the summaries) have seemed to mean the file's timestamp. According to a deep link [wordpress.com] (linked from the Bloomberg article), this is about timestamps within a 7zip archive.
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[04:25:21] <exec> 08└─When will this country again be built on personal responsibility? If the solution is always "Get the men-with-guns to beat up this-one-guy-over-here!" then our society is guaranteed to go down the shitter.
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[04:25:22] <exec> 08└─You mean like making Purdue take responsibility for lying?
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[04:25:24] <exec> 08└─"Troll"? Well, then, I guess I get to try this a second time! ------- When will this country again be built on personal responsibility? If the solution is always "Get the-men-with-guns to beat up this-one-guy-over-here!" then our society is guaranteed to go down the shitter.
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[04:25:37] <exec> 08└─Bollocks! If no one ever believed that we would "mastermind some shit", perhaps in not such graphic terms, nothing great would ever happen! Look at the space program in the 60s. Kennedy said, "yeah, it's hard, but let's mastermind some shit! Lets change the world!" Why can't we do the same now. Sure...
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[04:25:38] <exec> 08└─Yes! This poor, sore AC has finally decided to join the sordid sods who compose this fine community. You may call me Ay-two-six-two, the finest of machines set to bestow grief upon the unwashed masses. Destroy those who would flounder under change, let those who would take advantage thrive!
[04:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 736 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:25:40] <exec> 08└─He was not wrong. I did say these people are very talented... However, it's not mandatory to exploit people at every opportunity, although it can be very rewarding financially. I can't sleep at night if i'm complicit in the exploitation of someone. I have worked for immoral people who saw no issue i...
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[04:25:43] <exec> 08└─Ay, I feel your grief good sir. However, one must accept the brutal, capitalist society in which we live. People feed off of other people for success. As my sonofabitch father taught me when I was very young, you must discover what the game is, and then win at that game. The name of our modern game...
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[04:26:26] <exec> 08└─I used Uber for the first time recently, it was a good experience and certainly better than the standard taxi service in that particular country. There are problems with the business itself, Uber does appear to be as corrupt and immoral as the taxi mafia rackets, but it's just remotely corrupt rathe...
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[04:26:27] <exec> 08└─As someone who has lived in the Philippines all his life, I can tell you that the taxi scams you describe aren't common, at least not in Metro Manila. In 41 years of life here and riding taxis almost daily I have never experienced any taxi drivers extorting extra fees for things like use of air cond...
[04:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:26:55] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure if we stop fuckin with them they will stop havig revolutions.
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[04:27:48] <exec> 08└─Who do you think is paying Obama to speak? Some entertainment business? These are not institutions that have celebrities speak. Obama's first payday was with Cantor Fitzgerald. An organization I'm certain neither of us had heard of yet. It took about 3 seconds to verify [housingwire.com] the hypothe...
[04:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:49] <exec> 08└─If we go ahead and assume that Trump does have ties with Russia, how many Americans died due to his connection? Zero? I don't think we can say the same about Benghazi.
[04:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:51] <exec> 08└─The DNC, after annointing HRC in a biased primary, needed to shift the blame for losing to Trump (*). Unfortunately, they want to shift the blame so much they're willing to start global thermonuclear armageddon over the fact that their hand-picked warmongering wall street shill lost. Throw in the fa...
[04:27:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:54] <exec> 08└─He's [Obama] now getting paid $400,000 to give a speech on Wall Street. Nobody thinks he has anything to say that's worth $400k as they asked valuable questions like what he missed about the White House and he reminisced over aesthetics. It's just cleanly laundered payments for services rendered. Ex...
[04:27:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:56] <exec> 08└─This is the party who's Jesus had a mail server in her closet and laughed off security concerns about her blackberry. Everyone was supposed to just bend over and bow, not hack or copy.
[04:27:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:58] <exec> 08└─The DNC is using a republican investigator nominated by a republican DOJ official to distract? That's some real 5d chess they pulled off
[04:27:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:28:00] <exec> 08└─DWS was fired and they had a whole big process of replacing her that was widely covered in the news? New minority leader in the senate, etc?
[04:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06North Korea Signals De-Escalation on Guam - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:29:00] <exec> 08└─Exactly how much more provocative could they have gotten under Obama? Testing 4 increasingly high yield nuclear weapons, launching missiles near Japan, etc? Had they had the technology to hit Guam at the time, do you think they would have suddenly started believing Obama's posturing and threats? It'...
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[05:25:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:13] <exec> 08└─Is that Idiot for "10+ nm"?
[05:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:23] <exec> 08└─"When will this country again be built on personal responsibility?"
[05:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:25] <exec> 08└─... Purdue will be the first up against the wall.
[05:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:25:27] <exec> 08└─Well I could in principle but it would be a huge pain in the ass. So when I use my expen$ive iO$ device I post as AC.
[05:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:10] <exec> 08└─Good god. This is the sort of nonsense you get when someone starts listening to their own verbiage without realizing the redefinitions of terms. This is what happens when people use words like "learning" or "machine learning" instead of "statistical algorithm" (or whatever somewhat more nuanced term...
[05:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 1700 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:54] <exec> 08└─There are only two ways to look at this. View one: The intel agencies really are as advertised in the propaganda. They have limitless resources, they are super competent and they all even have big stainless steel dicks. Of course their experts carefully reworked all metadata and timestamps and thus...
[05:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:17] <exec> 08└─Tarski was a bit Jewy.
[05:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 1960 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:18] <exec> 08└─Comments != interest. I know on the days that everyone on the internet likes to measure stuff by discussion metrics and "participation," but we all know here (or should know) the rules about how many people read or are interested in stuff vs. the much tinier fraction who participate actively. Those...
[05:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:20] <exec> 08└─Rage sells, you say? How about restarting the old flame wars: vi vs emacs. command line vs GUI. IPv4 vs IPv6. sysv vs systemd. Xorg vs Wayland vs Mir. Redhat vs Ubuntu vs Slackware vs Arch vs Gentoo. FreeBSD vs Linux. SoylentNews vs ....
[05:28:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 1051 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:28:22] <exec> 08└─Oh, and if you need an example, look at what I did below in this very thread. I RTFA (as I often do on science/mathy stuff), and this time I *tried* to manufacture controversy by nitpicking one claim in the summary and even included a small dig about a popular geek book for good measure. Then I offe...
[05:29:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06North Korea Signals De-Escalation on Guam - 350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:02] <exec> 08└─South Korea isn't buying the THAAD. The THAAD is on a golf course in South Korea (terrific location!). And it protects Japan. But the THAAD belongs to the #USA. But South Korea -- like many, many of our allies -- needs to start paying its own way. For the military protection we're giving them. Which...
[05:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score: 2) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 825 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:29:26] <exec> 08└─You have (still) many rights in the physical world in regards to information that in principle still exist in the digital realm. Time shifting, format shifting, first-sale, and other rights are being badly eroded and many people are happily contributing to that erosion by folding and going along wit...
[05:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 2623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:30:27] <exec> 08└─Ignore what? The warrant does specify exactly what is being searched and exactly what persons/things are to be seized. I imagine many objections to this action are because of political bias. Let's turn this around, imagine there was an alt right site encouraging militarism and implicit calls for vio...
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[06:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:26] <exec> 08└─Samsung & Global Foundary, both saying they're ready to skip from 14nm to 7nm & EUV in their next generation?
[06:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:28] <exec> 08└─Not to nitpick, but Ice Lake isn't a CPU architecture. It's a line or a series. Core, Atom and Pentium are families. x86 and ARM64 are architectures... Or am I missing something?
[06:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:30] <exec> 08└─I have always relied on the support of Intel for the advancement of the white race. Especially with the Unternehmen Barbarossa and the i5. Am I wrong?
[06:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:32] <exec> 08└─Sure, x86 is an architecture, but there are low-level details that are implemented in very many ways, not to mention extensions for specialized functions. Programmers (that is, compilers) tend to target x86, but it would be possible to target Ice Lake by writing code that is particular to the Ice La...
[06:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:34] <exec> 08└─The best thing to happen to non-white people is white people; not only are white people ashamed of their own achievements (such as tolerance, or multiculturalism, or the ending of slavery as a matter of culture), but white people will be the first to throw themselves into the fires to advance non-wh...
[06:25:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PinkyGigglebrain [4458] 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 67 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:25:44] <exec> 08└─"When will this country again be built on personal responsibility?"
[06:26:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:32] <exec> 08└─That's a really good comment, well said. Coming from a machine learning background, I'd just like to toss in one further criticism: "...always prefers the best pattern for the task at hand" Not "pattern" but "goal". Any learning algorithm has to have a target. Usually, this is given in the form of t...
[06:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Uber Made to Suspend Operations in the Philippines - 1951 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:26:50] <exec> 08└─You're being disingenuous there. I obviously don't have any way of judging your personal experience, but I do know that if you've lived in Metro Manila for 41 years you are fully aware of what I'm speaking of, and having never experienced it is going to require a knowledge of the typical issues, tel...
[06:28:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, and the voters are playing checkers... King me!
[06:28:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:45] <exec> 08└─INT != WIS. And what's so insane about not-atheism? I grant organized religions are nuts, but why would simple Deism or pan[en]theism be insane?
[06:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:28:46] <exec> 08└─kind of like Bach's Art of the Fugue, which is more of an intellectual exercise than enjoyable music all the way through
[06:32:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ancient IETF 'teapot' Gag Preserved for Posterity as a Standard - 1074 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:32:42] <exec> 08└─You can chug vodka and get drunk significantly faster. So? Drinks like a Long Island Iced Tea are generally crafted for people who want to drink CHEAP booze and get drunk fast while ignoring the awful taste of the cheap booze. The Long Island Iced Tea is also an even worse abomination, because it's...
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[07:25:28] <exec> 08└─nmmmmmmmm
[07:25:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:25:29] <exec> 08└─White people cheat on their taxes. They are all egotistical douches, like President "Many Sides". They will all end up in prison, just like the little white boy cornered by the Antifa, who then decided he was not actually a white supremacist, [youtube.com] since he had been in prison (I am not going...
[07:26:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Snotnose [1623] 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:06] <exec> 08└─Went to Kohl's, which has 2 parking spaces labelled "Charging, green cars only". A green Dodge Charger was parked there. Didn't hit me til later, wish I'd taken a pic.
[07:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 2014 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:26:28] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but it's actually true. For every system there will be some things it can't learn. What you actually need to realize is that this is also true of people. And I'm rather sure that it's also true of humanity, but I don't have an experimental test of THAT. This argument is valid when it asserts...
[07:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:14] <exec> 08└─Problem is, that orange clown is probably the best person for the job right now
[07:27:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 296 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:27:23] <exec> 08└─> from the who-you-gonna-believe? dept. True, who are you going to believe? The NSA, the head of the FBI who helped ruin Clinton's campaign, testifying under oath that the Russians interfered in Trump's favor, or something someone told someone on the Internet about someone doing something shady?
[07:28:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:28:16] <exec> 08└─> Will the masses ever understand that a hack is not just a magic event, but that it is usually enabled by mistakes and carelessness on the part of the target? This simply is not true. In every movie I've seen, the hackers are successful because they have Eastern European accents.
[07:28:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:28:45] <exec> 08└─Not only is "There is a god" a worthless axiom, but there's no proof that any particular god (and and thus his dictates) are possibly based on anything other than insanity. That's what makes it insane.
[07:28:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:28:47] <exec> 08└─Posting AC to ensure I don't end up being the spark on a fire. sysv vs systemd.
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[08:25:24] <exec> 08└─Good news: a pill to protect the kidney against severe dehydration will be available on the market in 5 years. The bad news: letting aside it will be expensive like hell and protected by patents, the administration mode will contain: * take one pill every 4 hours with copious amount of water * in ca...
[08:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:32] <exec> 08└─So, rodents tend to cause a smell at the best of times. In a fully enclosed system like the ISS? I hope they've come up with a clever way of sanitizing their cages, that's all I'm sating...
[08:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:47] <exec> 08└─I have always relied on the support of Intel for the advancement of the white race.
[08:25:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 58 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:25:55] <exec> 08└─You mean like making Purdue take responsibility for lying?
[08:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:47] <exec> 08└─I don't think you understand the point of the article. Your statement "decides that three different answers are interesting" is exactly the challenge the article says is hard. How does a computer decide which answers are interesting? Take a simple problem like fitting a set of points to a line. Well...
[08:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:48] <exec> 08└─Will machines ever learn so well on their own that external guidance becomes a quaint relic?
[08:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:51] <exec> 08└─> human minds aren't actually just REALLY complex machines of a sort I thought there was an argument that human minds exhibit phenomena that are not reproducible in classical computers (implication being that human brain is at least a quantum computer). I can't recall the details of the argument now...
[08:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:53] <exec> 08└─Yes, the brain is partitioned, but those partitions work together somehow to allow humans to learn all sorts of things.
[08:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:55] <exec> 08└─IOW, everything has its limits, including you and me.
[08:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:57] <exec> 08└─Take a simple problem like fitting a set of points to a line. Well, we can try fitting a straight line using various different algorithms, and perform some statistical test (e.g. chi2 test) to reject bad answers. But a clever computer might allow bendy lines (e.g. fit to a quadratic). For any reason...
[08:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:26:59] <exec> 08└─A quantum computer cannot do any calculation a classical computer can't. It's just that it can do certain types of calculations much more efficiently. For example, a quantum computer cannot solve the halting problem. I can say that for sure, because a classical computer cannot solve the halting prob...
[08:27:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sulla [5173] 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 248 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:27] <exec> 08└─A nuclear Iran does more to promote world peace than a non-nuclear Iran does. It would certainly help them in maintaining their nations sovereignty, and unlike Pakistan I am not nearly as concerned about Iran's weapons falling into the wrong hands.
[08:27:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03n1 [993] 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 859 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:30] <exec> 08└─This is indeed worth remembering, Pakistan, a strategic ally that does have a fully developed nuclear weapons program is also a nation that has ungovernable tribal regions, a porous border with a totally failed state in Afghanistan, continual regional tensions with another nuclear power in India......
[08:27:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:48] <exec> 08└─the country’s illegal, covert nuclear program
[08:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:50] <exec> 08└─The big problem is I'm not even in the US and I have to reap what the US has sown and sows in the future. The middle east is messed up because of the USA.
[08:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:27:52] <exec> 08└─Yes, what could possibly go wrong with a country whose SENATE openly chants "Death to America" during political meetings?
[08:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score: 2) 02 - 06LinkedIn Cannot Prevent Access to Public Profiles - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:30:28] <exec> 08└─Google's results are the result of internal algorithms that present customized and unique results dependent upon a large amount of input data. I think it's safe to say that they're definitely still the property of Google.
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[09:25:13] <exec> 08└─I don't understand how kidney damage can be fixed by genes? There must surely be a physical mechanism which does something.
[09:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:22] <exec> 08└─Even with just people in the ISS for months, drinking their own recycled piss and sweat they'd smell pretty bad. Fortunately, this isn't actually a problem for several reasons. For instance, they can open the airlock very briefly [youtube.com] if things get too bad. The CO2 scrubbers also help a gre...
[09:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 860 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:38] <exec> 08└─I'm sure this is a naive question, but when you have a transistor that is made of just a few atoms or even a single atom, isn't that many times more vulnerable to damage than a larger transistor? I get that they are shielded by being inside the chip core but how great is the risk that one or more of...
[09:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:25:51] <exec> 08└─Shit. I hate to say this, since it's apparently (according to downthread) MDC. And disagree with pretty much every single sentiment of the above. But "Troll"-modding it? Really? You can agree or disagree, but that post is not a troll.
[09:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03shrewdsheep [5215] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:46] <exec> 08└─The no-free-lunch theorem is not quite as claimed in TFS. No matter which classifier you choose, it will be optimal for some distribution, i.e. there only optimal classifiers. For example, consider a two-class classification problem of images. Let us design a classifier that decides for class 1 if p...
[09:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 722 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:26:47] <exec> 08└─> You usually want to minimize both the error and the number of parameters. Right. So the proposal by the GP to just plug in an infinite number of algorithms to this problem doesnt really work. You still need to make a score function, and all GP has done is made the score function more complicated....
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[09:27:06] <exec> 08└─Sure, it happens. It's reported. But the fact that it's never happened even once to me in the perhaps thousands of times I've ridden taxis in Metro Manila my whole life, nor has it ever happened to anyone that I personally know, probably means that it's not exactly systemic. Obviously if something m...
[09:27:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 897 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:27:39] <exec> 08└─Pakistan is run by its army. Since its inception in 1947 it has not seen a single democratic ruler last its full term of 5 years. You know what is the quality of military? It is a dog. Earlier its master was USA now it is cosying up to China. It is open secret that Pakistan's nuclear capabilities, j...
[09:28:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tonyPick [1237] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:42] <exec> 08└─You need a controversy - now
[09:28:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 919 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:28:43] <exec> 08└─Even so just because some russian hackers hacked the DNC doesn't mean the _election_ itself was hacked which is the narrative many are trying to push - especially "The election was hacked by the Russians (so we should discard the result which we don't like)". I don't see any evidence of vote or vote...
[09:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:31:20] <exec> 08└─Inadmissible in court, but the government will still have it. Do you really see no problem with that?
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[10:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:11] <exec> 08└─Bias much?
[10:25:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:12] <exec> 08└─I hope we're just as happy when it's all men getting the awards.
[10:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:15] <exec> 08└─This just shows that there are more feminine writers than men currently. When it comes to employment, awards, salary etc, it is all okay as long as a quota system is not used. In this kind of contexts quota systems are just evil. Let me show you why quotas are evil. For example, among computer scien...
[10:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:17] <exec> 08└─Congratulations. You may see this as a win for diversity but your en masse virtue signaling has done what the Puppies couldn't manage. It has firmly declared a Hugo to be an irrelevant award. Puppies win.
[10:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:27] <exec> 08└─I believe khallow will have something to say on this.
[10:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 972 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:29] <exec> 08└─Yes, the genes drive a physical mechanism the does the repairs. Humans currently do not have the instructions / sub-system to deal with major kidney damage. But these mice do. It is like how humans have a mechanism, coded in their genes to fully regenerate a lost finger tip. Lose a bit at the end an...
[10:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:31] <exec> 08└─Proteins are physical! The paper has much more specific information: The animals reacted via a series of changes in the kidney, which included modulating expression of genes responsible for reducing the rate of transcription and maintaining water and salt balance. Extracellular matrix turnover appea...
[10:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 1425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:41] <exec> 08└─NASA today are mostly a bunch of parasites thinking up more innovative ways to suck tax money. Spending all that money on figuring out all the bad things that happen to us in zero g and spending zero on stuff like this: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I...
[10:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:57] <exec> 08└─They already shit talked everybody else's X nm processes: Moore's Law: Not Dead? Intel Says its 10nm Chips Will Beat Samsung's [soylentnews.org]
[10:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:25:59] <exec> 08└─Nope. [cnn.com]
[10:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:01] <exec> 08└─The processes are worked on for years before they hit the market. If 10nm, 7nm, and 5nm were nonviable, we would know it by now. The bigger problem is getting the EUV tools working good enough to make the economics viable.
[10:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:26:14] <exec> 08└─Your first comment got corrected upwards. Don't post the same comment twice or more just because you got a downmod, you whiny bitch.
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[11:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Agrees to FTC Privacy Audits for the Next 20 Years - 983 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:14] <exec> 08└─Who's better positioned to purchase a fleet of self-driving cars for a taxi service? Uber can gradually transition towards an automated operating model. Only the automobile manufacturers themselves are better positioned at offering such services since they control the supply chain. Indeed, they're a...
[11:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:26] <exec> 08└─Or, women are just better at writing science fiction, and always have been. The Sad Puppies have only served to make that manifest! Poor Sad Puppies! Maybe they could win a "Red Pillar" award, instead?
[11:25:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:27] <exec> 08└─"Sure, if it's based on merit and not a civersity push" Yes, well, about that. The article claims that the "Sad Puppies" and "Rabid Puppies" gamed the awards in previous years. That depends on your definition: the rules are, anyone can vote. So the puppies did. Seeing that the puppy-candidates were...
[11:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:29] <exec> 08└─once the rule changes kick in, and 'slate' nominations become more difficult (if not impossible), and women still win, then, according to the nominators and voters, they will just have written the better stories. http://www.worldcon.fi [worldcon.fi] http...
[11:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:31] <exec> 08└─Anti-diversity groups: they're all the same...
[11:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:34] <exec> 08└─Or, women are just better at writing science fiction, and always have been. The Sad Puppies have only served to make that manifest! Poor Sad Puppies! Maybe they could win a "Red Pillar" award, instead?
[11:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:36] <exec> 08└─Your trolling aside, that's actually a good idea. The SJW fix is so firmly in at the Hugos that there's nothing for it but to ignore them and start an award actually based on merit.
[11:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:38] <exec> 08└─Except the "Sad Puppy" criteria of "merit" sucks! Or at least wishes it could.
[11:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 593 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:40] <exec> 08└─You have stated the bleedin obvious in a very long-winded way. You are right, but anyone who cannot see this is deliberately not seeing it. Some years ago I did cycle road racing in the UK. At the time hardly any women regularly did such racing - probably no more than 20 nationwide; this comapred wi...
[11:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:25:42] <exec> 08└─The argument for positive discrimination is that the pool of talented is the same as the pool of talented majority - but the talented are not very good at demonstrating their talent in interviews etc due to societal factors. So one should increment the "score" that get in interview to offset societa...
[11:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:02] <exec> 08└─So THIS is how our mouse overlords get into space. I mean, come on now, it was all spelled out clearly in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy!
[11:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:23] <exec> 08└─You can't go around referring to microarchitectures as architectures. Reason being, "What's special about the Sky Lake architecture?" and "What's special about the Sky Lake microarchitecture?" are different questions: The former refers to new instructions while the latter will link you to https://en...
[11:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 1023 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:26:24] <exec> 08└─Takes every facet of degradation into account. Intel has had a number of engineering failures (as has AMD, although they have a lot more general QC failures (IE random chip is faulty), whereas Intel's are either errata (logic errors/races), or engineering failures, like those SATA controllers on tha...
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[12:25:40] <exec> 08└─They proved in previous years that if you have a penis, you're disqualified from the award.
[12:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:41] <exec> 08└─Oh dear, SN ate my angle brackets. Sigh,
[12:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03leftover [2448] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:54] <exec> 08└─Humans genetically customized to live on Mars will certainly need this gene. I don't know whether I am kidding or not.
[12:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:55] <exec> 08└─I believe khallow will have something to say on this.
[12:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:25:57] <exec> 08└─I don't know whether I am kidding or not.
[12:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03rigrig [5129] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:14] <exec> 08└─It depends: If you were planning on placing panels anyway, 10% loss so you can have a pretty colour is probably too much. But if you decided regular panels are just too ugly, you might be willing to place prettier panels which still generate some power.
[12:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Solar Panels: Nanotechnology Gives Green Energy a Green Color - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:15] <exec> 08└─Remember the atmosphere just happens to be pretty transparent at visible wavelengths (or, rather, our vision is adapted to wavelengths the atmosphere passes), but in the infrared, there's a bunch of absorption bands that cut out maybe 50% or so of the non-visible light, so there's even less energy a...
[12:27:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 1375 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:30] <exec> 08└─Good god. This is the sort of nonsense you get when someone starts listening to their own verbiage without realizing the redefinitions of terms. This is what happens when people use words like "learning" or "machine learning" instead of "statistical algorithm" (or whatever somewhat more nuanced term...
[12:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03AlphaSnail [5814] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:42] <exec> 08└─Algorithm Alpha is good at recognizing A but bad at recognizing B Algorithm Beta is good at recognizing B but not recognizing A Algorithm Delta combines Alpha for A and Beta for B and is now good at recognizing A and B Yet this is impossible because learning algorithms can only be good at one thing....
[12:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:44] <exec> 08└─You simply have no idea what humans cannot learn (nor do I), because if we could have an idea about it, we could learn it, at least in principle.
[12:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:46] <exec> 08└─This is just you saying you don't buy the No Free Lunch theorem, then?
[12:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:48] <exec> 08└─So how do you distinguish between the AI solving a problem that's beyond your grasp to understand, and the AI telling you good-sounding nonsense which you don't understand because there is nothing to understand? How does a dog know whether you're doing algebra or writing down meaningless scribble?
[12:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:50] <exec> 08└─Algorithm Alpha is good at recognizing A but bad at recognizing B Algorithm Beta is good at recognizing B but not recognizing A Algorithm Delta combines Alpha for A and Beta for B and is now good at recognizing A and B
[12:27:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:27:52] <exec> 08└─how do you distinguish between the AI solving a problem that's beyond your grasp to understand, and the AI telling you good-sounding nonsense
[12:29:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03srobert [4803] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 377 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:27] <exec> 08└─My analogy is that a peeping Tom looks into a window and sees a child being abused. He reports it to the police, thus exposing his own misbehavior. The child abuser gets the neighborhood all up in arms about the peeping Tom that's been "invading our privacy". Somehow everyone forgets about the child...
[12:29:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ingar [801] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:29:48] <exec> 08└─Last year I upgraded my internet connection to my ISP's 200Mbit plan. Download speed maxes out at around 23MB/sec. I'm also a lot poorer now.
[12:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:30:19] <exec> 08└─That's an argument for agnosticism, not for atheism. For atheism to be reasonable, the axiom "there is no god" would have to be a useful axiom. I fail to see the use of this axiom.
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[13:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:21] <exec> 08└─If you're so worried about your fish that you need to check on them when you're out, maybe you should get a cat instead.
[13:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03RS3 [6367] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:23] <exec> 08└─"This one is the most entertaining and clever thinking by hackers I've seen,"
[13:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:52] <exec> 08└─One can appreciate the effort that went into the following double think: This year's sweep by female creators seems to be a strong repudiation of anti-diversity groups.
[13:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:54] <exec> 08└─I think someone needs to read the moderator guidelines. Not liking what someone says != you should downmod it. You should be ashamed of yourself for bringing down the quality of moderation on the site.
[13:25:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:56] <exec> 08└─Feminine penii are ok.
[13:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:25:58] <exec> 08└─As your first link says, the rule changes went into effect this year, which is why this year's ballot is so different from the past two years and more like years before that. The Hugo rules require a rule change to be approved two years in a row before it can take effect, which is why it took two ye...
[13:25:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:00] <exec> 08└─So, in short, the awards are almost meaningless. In other news, women swept the women's competitions in the last Olympics, while men were segregated into separate competitions. I will admit that I have found a few stories written by women that were worth reading, because they were nominated for awar...
[13:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:24] <exec> 08└─I'm wondering what happened to Rodent Research 1-8. At least there might be an upside, they can make rodent kebabs when they are done with the experiments.
[13:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 940 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:26:47] <exec> 08└─Oh I'm sure it's economically viable. There aren't many atoms in the transistors of the computers most of us are already using, so it clearly mostly works. I just find the physics of it somewhat mind boggling. If you pick up an object or rub it, or drop it, I would expect that a non zero number of m...
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[13:27:01] <exec> 08└─Watch me.
[13:27:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:27:19] <exec> 08└─I've got no love for Uber, but I found nothing damning in this at all. I've been on both sides of that conversation. This is how people often talk when they're making moves.
[13:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:28:08] <exec> 08└─If humans can understand it, and it is solvable at all (an AI certainly won't to be able to solve unsolvable problems), then you cannot exclude the possibility that, at least in principle, humans might have been able to solve it, even if they didn't solve it yet.
[13:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah, and the voters are playing checkers... King me!
[13:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03axsdenied [384] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 394 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:07] <exec> 08└─It is easy to achieve those rates by transferring data to, for example, a hacked AWS account. Why would anyone assume that whoever did the hack tried to copy data directly (or via VPN) to Russia (or wherever)? If they had the brains to do the hack they most likely had the brains to find a fast way t...
[13:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:38] <exec> 08└─Got links to more reading about Tarski or Peirce?
[13:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06North Korea Signals De-Escalation on Guam - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:20] <exec> 08└─Idiocracy: where voters get their news from comedians and life experience from cable tv.
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[14:25:24] <exec> 08└─Why is baldness so prevalent when people tend to find non-baldness more sexually attractive? Why are genitals surrounded by hair when people find shaved genitals to be more sexually attractive?
[14:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:25:33] <exec> 08└─Question is, how did they get to the tanks computer in the first place? Unsecure wifi? uPnP fuckery via open ports? IoT server vulnerability? Really bad router config?
[14:26:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 640 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:07] <exec> 08└─So, in short, the awards are almost meaningless. In other news, women swept the women's competitions in the last Olympics, while men were segregated into separate competitions. I will admit that I have found a few stories written by women that were worth reading, because they were nominated for awar...
[14:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:10] <exec> 08└─From about 4 years of age boys focus on boy stuff and recognize girls as other (girls smell). Girls (or girls mothers) very quickly differential from boys and eventually dress, pluck, cut and paint their way to looking 'unlike men' as possible while maintaining facial symmetry. Men on the whole want...
[14:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 556 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:13] <exec> 08└─The HUGO awards for womens literature have made their choice, I'm unsure of their goal. I was uncomfortable with the mixing of fantasy with science fiction back in the day, as I didn't see the connection and had no wish to read fantasy. Now that science fiction has been redefined to... well this HUG...
[14:26:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03JNCF [4317] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:15] <exec> 08└─FYI, < makes a < and > makes a >. Off-topic as fuck, so no karma bonus.
[14:26:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:17] <exec> 08└─Their goal was simple but twofold: to signal virtue just as hard as they possibly could and to take away a means of giving credit to men for excelling at something that they are better at.
[14:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:19] <exec> 08└─That's "car of color," you insensitive clod!
[14:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 684 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:21] <exec> 08└─Another "the argument for positive discrimination" is that society is skewed a certain way which is not providing everyone equal chances, which means society loses out. To address that, we're giving some who we believe had lesser chances a leg up. Maybe to help society address the imbalance now, (so...
[14:26:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:23] <exec> 08└─One can appreciate the effort that went into the following double think: This year's sweep by female creators seems to be a strong repudiation of anti-diversity groups.
[14:26:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:25] <exec> 08└─It seemed like the problem to me is not that people think women can't write SF, it is that the women who are wining the awards for SF are not writing real SF. I personally do not give a shit whether the author is man/woman/various ethnicities as long as it is good SF. I will give some of the books t...
[14:26:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:26:28] <exec> 08└─"Sci-Feelz."
[14:27:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:15] <exec> 08└─Oh I'm sure it's economically viable.
[14:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:27:32] <exec> 08└─That's ok. I also rarely spend all 5 of my mod points. Most days I don't do any modding. Suit yourself.
[14:28:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:28:39] <exec> 08└─When you begin researching something, you generally don't KNOW what answers you're looking for, or even what KIND of answers. Neither will the computer, if it's functioning anything like a human mind. It's searching, and finding potential answers. So, it searches and searches, finds two, six, or twe...
[14:29:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 1451 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:13] <exec> 08└─I disagree. Comparing the security of Iran's weapons to the security of Pakistan's weapons does not make your point about making the world more peaceful. If Iran had zero nuclear weapons, then it would have zero chance of its (non existent) weapons falling into the wrong hands -- lower chance than P...
[14:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:29:32] <exec> 08└─I hope you don't expect us to believe that you'd sing _Kumbaya_ to honor a state that overthrew your democratically elected leader, propped up a terrible dictator for decades, then enforced crippling sanctions for more decades in response to you finally getting rid of said dictator.
[14:30:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03hemocyanin [186] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 750 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:27] <exec> 08└─The DNC, after annointing HRC in a biased primary, needed to shift the blame for losing to Trump (*). Unfortunately, they want to shift the blame so much they're willing to start global thermonuclear armageddon over the fact that their hand-picked warmongering wall street shill lost. Throw in the fa...
[14:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:11] <exec> 08└─That's one side of it, the other is that subjects such as this require some degree of understanding of the subject to comment, politics being the domain of diarrhea of the mouth is more inviting for commentary.
[14:31:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:13] <exec> 08└─Socrates was one of the least-great logicians and philosophers in history - he would have told you so himself.
[14:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:23] <exec> 08└─Ignore what? The warrant does specify exactly what is being searched and exactly what persons/things are to be seized.
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[15:25:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:14] <exec> 08└─maybe you like shaved genitals. regular people don't.
[15:25:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:16] <exec> 08└─"We're calling it Trump Gel."
[15:25:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:18] <exec> 08└─Regular people like lolis. No shave needed.
[15:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:20] <exec> 08└─HELP IS ON THE WAY /doubtfire
[15:25:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RS3 [6367] 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:29] <exec> 08└─"This one is the most entertaining and clever thinking by hackers I've seen,"
[15:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:32] <exec> 08└─Well, first they worked out how to build an incredible machine that could shrink a human to many times less than their normal size. Then they built it and used it on themselves. Next, they purchased scuba diving equipment, which was quite a feat in itself, given their hugely diminished size. They ha...
[15:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:35] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the casino did not properly separate the network used for internal operations and a network providing WiFi to customers?
[15:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:37] <exec> 08└─Wonder if this is like the Target incident, where they compromised an outside vendor and used their connection to the devices to hop to the casino network.
[15:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03TrentDavey [1526] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:25:39] <exec> 08└─ahh... I was wondering when I read: "Somebody got into the fish tank ... "
[15:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:26] <exec> 08└─Its annoying because it isn't that women are writing bad SF, they just arent even trying. They changed the definition of SF so women could win for the same fantasy they have always written.
[15:26:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:27] <exec> 08└─Nah. Nothing is gained by embracing mediocrity over greatness. Losing out on the greatness that was passed over is all that's accomplished. Society is in fact poorer for any discrimination, no matter the reason.
[15:26:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:29] <exec> 08└─I liked sci-fi better back in the good ol' 1950s, when characters had lots of casual sex, polyamory, "line marriages", etc. What happened to those days? (My point here being, I'll bet any classic Heinlein novel was way more socially liberal than whatever these award-winning authors are pumping out t...
[15:26:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:32] <exec> 08└─Yeah, the bitch of it all is that I enjoy well-written fantasy just as much as I enjoy sci-fi. They are not even kind of the same thing though.
[15:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 621 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:34] <exec> 08└─A brief teaser about the book from your link: “The Art of Space Travel” by Nina Allan is a science fiction novelette. In 2047, a first manned mission to Mars ended in tragedy. Thirty years later, a second expedition is preparing to launch. As housekeeper of the hotel where two of the astronauts...
[15:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:36] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's the problem here: reactionism. When you have one group that turns extremist, other people join another reactionary group on the opposite, but also extreme side. Then the reasonably people in the middle get sick of the bullshit and leave.
[15:26:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:38] <exec> 08└─Just going by that one link someone posted to "The Art of Space Travel", it seems like it's become basically "chick-lit" (e.g., stories about characters exploring their feelings and experiencing drama) set in the not-too-far future, rather than speculative fiction which explores the societal impact...
[15:26:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:40] <exec> 08└─Expect nothing else. SJWs fight because they lack the ability to create and want to take down those who have it. Their stated reasons are bullshit.
[15:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:42] <exec> 08└─Seems to be like the problem would be the original group turning extremist then, no?
[15:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:44] <exec> 08└─That might be correct if we had good definitions and measurements of what exactly constitutes "mediocrity" and "greatness", but we don't. The measures we use to select people for promotion, acceptance to programs, or for awards are very poor, and are hugely infleuenced by things that almost everyone...
[15:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:26:47] <exec> 08└─I'll bite. Because good science fiction is intended to look at society, and society has room service.
[15:28:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:28:59] <exec> 08└─You're backpedalling. You've set up a game that you cannot possibly lose. There's no reason to say humans can solve any problem 'in principle' (what principle?) but that AI can't. An AI which guesses at solutions will eventually solve any given problem, right? Of course, this simply isn't what we me...
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[16:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:26] <exec> 08└─This means the end of cryptographic scarcity and modern encryption as we know it
[16:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:38] <exec> 08└─What is wrong with biomed? If you claim "lactate dehydogenase activity drives hair follicle stem cell activation" I expect there to be a plot of "lactate dehydrogenase activity" vs "hair follicle stem cell activation". This is common sense to anyone with a drop of scientific intuition in their blood...
[16:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:39] <exec> 08└─Why is baldness so prevalent when people tend to find non-baldness more sexually attractive?
[16:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:41] <exec> 08└─Try again.
[16:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:44] <exec> 08└─Why is baldness so prevalent when people tend to find non-baldness more sexually attractive?
[16:25:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zal42 [5435] (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:57] <exec> 08└─Being connected to the internet is a security risk. Do not connect things to the internet unless there is a very good reason to do so.
[16:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:25:59] <exec> 08└─Why would you get a cat to check on your fish? Won't have a fish very long...
[16:26:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1612 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:20] <exec> 08└─"Sure, if it's based on merit and not a civersity push" Yes, well, about that. The article claims that the "Sad Puppies" and "Rabid Puppies" gamed the awards in previous years. That depends on your definition: the rules are, anyone can vote. So the puppies did. Seeing that the puppy-candidates were...
[16:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:58] <exec> 08└─You could stop using "virtue signalling", "SJW" etc. in your posts. It's meaningless babble at best, and the intent to insult is not even thinly veiled. Then we could see if you have anything to say worth upmodding!
[16:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:26:59] <exec> 08└─You are so delusional and the backlash in this entire thread is depressing. Bunch of prejudiced dudes butthurt over society taking away their participation prizes. There was no accusation of the awards being manipulated, but this whole thread whines on and on as if men were somehow chested. Grow up...
[16:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:02] <exec> 08└─That's "car of color," you insensitive clod!
[16:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:04] <exec> 08└─Waste of breath, this whole thread is reactionary garbage and people like TMB are beyond reason when it comes to the dreaded sjws. The persecution complex from the conservative base is getting ridiculous. At least we can laugh at them, but it is still somewhat depressing.
[16:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:06] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but that's not uncommon. There's always extremists. I guess the problem is when you give the extremists too much attention instead of just ignoring them.
[16:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1051 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:27:08] <exec> 08└─Society has always had "shit jobs", but that doesn't mean I want to read a long narrative about some janitor's thoughts and feelings, even if it is set in a hypothetical future. Some stories about the lowest members of society can be interesting, but usually only when they're properly set in an actu...
[16:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:21] <exec> 08└─You're backpedalling.
[16:29:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:23] <exec> 08└─Fine, let's try another take.
[16:29:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:29:25] <exec> 08└─If the AI can solve it in minutes, and humans can only solve it across tens of millennia, I think we have to give the point to the AI. At some point, it's not meaningful to say well humans could have solved it if only they'd been given even more time. We see a less interesting variation of this alre...
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[16:30:18] <exec> 08└─Could Restarts
[16:30:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NewNic [6420] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 252 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:45] <exec> 08└─The point of my comment is not to prove that it was a Russian hack, but to show that the "evidence" that it wasn't a Russian hack is just, if not more, lacking. These "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity" are massively overstating their case.
[16:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:27] <exec> 08└─"It is easy to achieve those rates by transferring data to, for example, a hacked AWS account." Why don't you youtube a demo of that pal. 180Mbs is a lot of capacity. That is more than a four bonded DS3s worth of backhaul. If you count overhead and transmission efficiency, maybe even five. You think...
[16:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:28] <exec> 08└─Even so just because some russian hackers hacked the DNC doesn't mean the _election_ itself was hacked which is the narrative many are trying to push - especially "The election was hacked by the Russians (so we should discard the result which we don't like)". That's a strawman argument. Nobody is sa...
[16:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 1695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:12] <exec> 08└─Ahhh!! Okay this is a major problem. You do not understand the processes in play here, yet were happy to judge them (actively) anyhow! Warrants are obtained by officers/prosecutors by presenting an affidavit (basically - writing under oath) laying out their case and their evidence. This is then brou...
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[17:25:18] <exec> 08└─If you write: Prof. Weitz'
[17:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:20] <exec> 08└─With quantum computers, your secret can be hidden in the depths of the Universe's most fundamental physics. At the very least, some cheap quantum co-processor will be embedded in classical machines to handle the cryptographic calculations.
[17:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:22] <exec> 08└─From the article it isn't clear whether this required liquid helium temperatures. That's one of the stumbling blocks to common use of quantum computers. (Yeah, there are others. But that one's not minor.) OTOH, it's also not clear why a photon should need to have temperatures near absolute zero. So...
[17:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:37] <exec> 08└─Did you ever read "Hyperpilosity"? It's a short story where there's some infections "disease" that causes people to grow hair all over, like normal mammals. P.S.: By the time a cure is developed, everyone's used to the effects, and nobody wants to be cured.
[17:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:25:53] <exec> 08└─https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/27/killer_car_wash/ [theregister.co.uk]. *sigh*
[17:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:26:59] <exec> 08└─most of the science work I am familiar with was largely advanced by the crowd of plodders rather than the flashes of brilliance. If Einstein had died in childhood, others would very likely have produced the same work in a similar timeframe. I seriously doubt it. I think a lot of science and technolo...
[17:27:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:00] <exec> 08└─Men: forgetting they are only half the species since the 1950s.
[17:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:02] <exec> 08└─How dare people use pejorative names that I don't like! That just proves how bad everybody is who doesn't agree with me.
[17:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:04] <exec> 08└─The norm in sci fi and other fictions now is called "Message Fiction" among writers (search that term); It's Political messaging dressed up as fiction. It used to be that the story was front and center and could stand on its own even if you didn't catch the political commentary woven into the plot,...
[17:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:06] <exec> 08└─Your intellectual acuity couldn't cut a wet noodle.
[17:27:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Weasley [6421] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:08] <exec> 08└─So....use a female pseudonym if I want my book to be published?
[17:27:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 916 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:11] <exec> 08└─The Puppies were pointing out that the Hugos were political awards being given out based on "diversity" instead of quality. I think it is now impossible to argue against that point with this years batch. But more important, we can demonstrate the declining quality of what is being called "Science Fi...
[17:27:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 670 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:13] <exec> 08└─This entire thread is loaded with misogynistic anger and presumptuous elitism. It actually isn't much different from the AGW crowd with their armchair PhDs. Lots of men made the list, and presumptions about "true" sci-fi are so blatantly reactionary. Why does everyone here care so much about women t...
[17:27:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:27:15] <exec> 08└─Nope, your sarcasm misses the mark. TMB is the one who shouldn't be whining about getting downmodded for using reactionary phrases. All political "sides" get frequently downmodded for using nasty wording. I see your problem though, you can't tell the difference between helpful advice and personal at...
[17:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel's Ice Lake Architecture Will be "10nm+" - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:03] <exec> 08└─The primary obstacle to scaling transistors to channel lengths below 100 nm is that thermal effects degrade their electrical signal to noise. Permanent irreversible material damage (crystal damage, electromigration) can be an issue, but reversible, transient thermal effects (hot electrons over short...
[17:28:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:28:38] <exec> 08└─so these two geniuses used the slave phone network to text? they couldn't pay someone to setup an xmpp server and omemo supporting client on their phones? couldn't "mastermind that shit", i guess? a douche is gonna douche.
[17:29:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03crafoo [6639] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:29:34] <exec> 08└─Fitting a set of 3 points with a curve is the task. The merit function to determine the best type of curve to fit will be modeled around the cascading effects of the curve type used. How many people die per year due to the linear fit model versus polynomial fit? That is how algorithms will decide wh...
[17:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:29] <exec> 08└─Did they actually sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty?
[17:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:31] <exec> 08└─Iran needs energy. They have no oil, nor sun.
[17:31:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:41] <exec> 08└─... and prompted to a Nationwide position in Hillary's campaign, which she probably already had truth be told.
[17:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06DOJ Demands Info on 1.3M Visitors to Protest-Organizing Website - 1103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:27] <exec> 08└─What we know - for certain - is that this is a fishing expedition. It requests information about people for whom there is no probable cause, no valid oath or affirmation. So the warrant is unconstitutional. I do understand the authorized process. I also understand, that as here, the government is ve...
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[18:25:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:19] <exec> 08└─Are people algorithmically gaming Twitter somehow to get their replies to Trump near the top? I notice some of the same users, such as @jules_su [twitter.com], near the top of the list very often. Having a large number of followers or replying very quickly are probably factors, but it shouldn't be s...
[18:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:20] <exec> 08└─That kind of flooding is a well-known technique for systematically disrupting otherwise organic interaction in order to establish some non-organic signal.
[18:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:22] <exec> 08└─"Fine, quit, I don't care. There are plenty more waiting to take your place . . . Wait, what? More might consider quitting too? Shit, shut it down then!" Much easier than denouncing David Duke . . .
[18:25:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:24] <exec> 08└─Your fired!
[18:25:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:26] <exec> 08└─These CEOs couldn't give too shits about David Duke; it's become clear that they're not going to be making significant money from being part of Trump's government.
[18:25:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:29] <exec> 08└─Duke wouldn't join the councils either?
[18:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:31] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure you don't want to see a system where the first reply gets to stay at the top. Personally I would like for social media systems to be 100% transparent about their algorithms. Decentralized and encrypted fully open source systems are the only way forward!
[18:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bobs [1462] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:33] <exec> 08└─"And there was much rejoicing." https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:35] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile back in reality, the stock market is at a record high and unemployment is at a 10 year low.
[18:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:37] <exec> 08└─While I'm all for making fun of CEOs and comparing them to robots, your comment is a bit far out there. This is 100% about PR and not lack of profits as you say. PR and profit are connected however, so a truly sociopathic CEO would make a "morality call" for purely selfish reasons. Again, not the ca...
[18:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:39] <exec> 08└─"For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!" Donald J Trump from two days ago Or not...
[18:25:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:42] <exec> 08└─Do you have any fact to back that up?
[18:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:44] <exec> 08└─And all to the credit of the guy whose been running government for a couple of weeks as opposed to the guy that been doing it the previous 8 years.
[18:25:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:53] <exec> 08└─You want research? Who cares? Your management isn't going to listen to any research, and they're going to see you as a rabble-rouser for bringing this up and questioning their new open-plan office with sales and development co-located for "innovation" and "collaboration". If you want a more producti...
[18:25:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03datapharmer [2702] (Score: 4, Informative) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:55] <exec> 08└─I've seen this thinking and it usually leads back to someone with an MBA and no critical thinking skills. Reconsider if this is a fight you want to fight - you may do better by finding a better company to work for as it sounds like this one is headed in a downward spiral. Once they weed out people f...
[18:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:57] <exec> 08└─I concur with the above. Regardless, sales people and developers can have useful interaction, if sales actually takes note of what developers say. Sharing office is likely to impede developer productivity however. Consider constant interaction without anything useful to say.
[18:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03goodie [1877] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:25:59] <exec> 08└─Peopleware has some ideas on this topic if I remember correctly. Beck's XP book and Schwaber's Scrum also discuss the fact that ensuring that there are no distractions is optimal (although XP does recommend colocation, but not for the same type of layout you are describing).
[18:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:01] <exec> 08└─Having everyone in the same building sounds like a good idea, since communication between sales, who know what the clients are interested in, and development, who build the things that clients are interested in, would be easier. Having everyone in the same room is a terrible idea, because developers...
[18:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:28] <exec> 08└─Did you ever read "Hyperpilosity"?
[18:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:46] <exec> 08└─https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=17/07/29/0244247 [soylentnews.org]
[18:26:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:48] <exec> 08└─Since there is no way we'll ever get IoT manufacturers to suddenly all be security conscious it would be better to develop methods of quarantine. So, how do we prevent a compromised device from hacking your network?
[18:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Uber Agrees to FTC Privacy Audits for the Next 20 Years - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:26:56] <exec> 08└─Especially if you can get a......leg up [arstechnica.com]....on your competition! (allegedly)
[18:27:48] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03https [5248] 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 215 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:27:48] <exec> 08└─You could stop using "virtue signalling", "SJW" etc. in your posts. It's meaningless babble at best, and the intent to insult is not even thinly veiled. Then we could see if you have anything to say worth upmodding!
[18:28:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:03] <exec> 08└─I liked sci-fi better back in the good ol' 1950s, when characters had lots of casual sex, polyamory, "line marriages", etc. What happened to those days?
[18:28:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:05] <exec> 08└─You're right, I stand corrected. However, according to the Wikipedia article [wikipedia.org], Stranger in a Strange Land came out in 1961, which was still some time before the free-love era of the late 60s, and he started exploring these themes as far back as 1939.
[18:28:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 712 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:07] <exec> 08└─I guess we'll see from the sales numbers just how well chick-sci-fi actually sells to female readers. Considering the very poor showing of women in STEM in western society, and the general disinterest western women seem to have in sci-fi in general, I don't think these authors are going to be big se...
[18:28:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:09] <exec> 08└─asking where all the men have gone and why there are no good men to marry any more. This won't be a problem in the near future: marriage rates are plummeting, and marriage will be mostly obsolete in a couple decades. The main problem here is how to keep the population size stable without the past in...
[18:28:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:11] <exec> 08└─The last one i read that had a more interesting take on social stuff and sex was Walkaway by Cory Doctorow. Came out just a few months ago. https://en.wikipedia.org(Cory_Doctorow_novel) [wikipedia.org]
[18:28:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:13] <exec> 08└─I, too, believe the Heavenly Father created us Male and Female, and not at all Gay, and that the reason for the existence of females is to become my spiritual wives, as many as possible, so that in the Future, if I am worthy, i can have my own planet Kolob. Peace be upon Joseph Smith, and Orson Scot...
[18:28:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:16] <exec> 08└─Buzzards are better at tearing fetid carcasses. Don't know what to do with noodles, or real literature.
[18:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:18] <exec> 08└─Scifi has always been "message fiction", politics is simply the aggregate phenomenon of human social activity. Heilein's ideas at the time were 100% "political" with commentary on society's sexual puritanism (today's abortion) and socioeconomic structuring. Scifi is well known for pushing the race b...
[18:28:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:28:32] <exec> 08└─The kidney is the canary In the coal mine. The prairie is the primary In the coal mine. The sidney is the strawberry In the coal mine.
[18:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:35] <exec> 08└─Disturbing echoes of the run-up to the Iraq war...
[18:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:47] <exec> 08└─I think we're up to 13D chess
[18:32:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:48] <exec> 08└─Your strong opinion is noted. However, not all bias comes from the government.
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[19:25:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:30] <exec> 08└─We desperately need ad-hoc P2P networking. The ISP is the corporate/state ball and chain.
[19:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:31] <exec> 08└─I'm about tired of this double standard that we are supposed to very carefully avoid noticing. Offend the left's sensibilities, refuse them service and judge orders you to "Bake the effing cake! No scratch that, just close up shop and die in poverty you hater!" And some kindly, harmless little perso...
[19:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:33] <exec> 08└─"I don't want to be associated with your ideas and therefore you cannot use my company to broadcast your hate" is very different from "You are hereby to cease talking under penalty of jail and fines". Being shunned from popular platforms has always happened. People would boo you in the square or ref...
[19:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:36] <exec> 08└─Eh? I clicked the "Reply" button in the top bar and ended up replied to an AC? Meh. Who knows.
[19:25:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:38] <exec> 08└─Love the implied equivalence between fighting discrimination and allowing Nazi speech. Think about it again. I'm not in the business of telling people who they should bake a cake for, and puzzled at the idea of forcing hateful people to get your money to bake a cake for your wedding when they hate y...
[19:25:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:25:40] <exec> 08└─We have a name for what you describe. Publisher. What Facebook and Twitter pretend to be is something different, a common carrier. A common carrier is not held legally or morally responsible for the content that passes over it, a publisher is. So let them decide, let them be forced to proclaim that...
[19:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:00] <exec> 08└─Get a bunch of his aryan brothers to stack the manufacturing council in his favor. After all, it is mostly white male americans who are being oppressed and losing their manufacturing jobs right? #MAGA - Get to work making your Aryan Councils great again Donald! :)
[19:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:01] <exec> 08└─Trump has never before in his life been surrounded by people who are not professionally obligated to pretend to like him or obey him. He doesn't really know how to respond to that, unlike everyone who has had bosses and annoying coworkers and such.
[19:26:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:03] <exec> 08└─If remaining in Trump's government were to gain them greater profits than leaving, they'd stay with Trump; in fact, it would be their legal obligation to stick with Trump. It has nothing to do with David Duke.
[19:26:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:05] <exec> 08└─It's hidden under his tin foil hat.
[19:26:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:07] <exec> 08└─You're aware you just posted that on a site that arranges comments and replies oldest-first by default, yes?
[19:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:10] <exec> 08└─Trump's whole life has been surrounding himself with drama, and exploiting it to his advantage; it's clear that a large proportion of the people who have been around him end up not liking him, and aren't afraid to voice that opinion—he was certainly never treated very nicely by the elites. You don...
[19:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:12] <exec> 08└─Hold on now... Are you suggesting coming from riches and privilege and experiencing the craft of governance from the managing of one's inheritance is no guarantee of becoming a magnificent king, a great president or all around a fine captain of industry?! Pish posh! Pish posh I say!
[19:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:14] <exec> 08└─I love the update to this soooo much. Just like when he tried to claim (after Nieto's announcement) that he and the President of Mexico had "mutually" decided to postpone his visit to the White House, which was a lie, he is once again attempting to claim this huge embarrassing loss as a win, as if i...
[19:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:16] <exec> 08└─...it would be their legal obligation to stick with Trump.
[19:26:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:18] <exec> 08└─Yeah, funny how absolutely none of his policies did shit but hemorrhage well paying jobs that then got replaced by not nearly as many minimum wage jobs while he was in office but less than a year after he's unemployed everyone else gets back to work. Nobody's going to be able to prove causation but...
[19:26:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:21] <exec> 08└─Oldest-first works here, but not in EgoLand, and especially not for high-profile people who have lots of rabid haters and fans.
[19:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:23] <exec> 08└─Maybe they should try it then.
[19:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:25] <exec> 08└─While there is no legal obligation per se, activist shareholders are always looking for an excuse to sue if the stock price doesn't go up by N% by their deadline to sell. Something this high profile is an easy target for "negative publicity" claims.
[19:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:27] <exec> 08└─And again we see it. The Fortune 500 was lost a long time ago, Conservatives still believed "Big Business" was on their side despite ample evidence to the contrary. Every big corporation eventually drives off the capitalists who founded it and brings in fully trained Communists from Harvard and Yale...
[19:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:29] <exec> 08└─What the hell? fully trained Communists from Harvard and Yale
[19:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:31] <exec> 08└─Sources for 'everyone else getting back to work' in recent months? BLS data from earlier this month indicate things are roughly in-line with the last 12 months of growth. Employment in food services and drinking places rose by 53,000 in July. The industry has added 313,000 jobs over the year. Profes...
[19:26:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:33] <exec> 08└─3M Co. Chief Executive Officer Inge Thulin stepped down from the White House's manufacturing council, adding to the corporate exodus as the backlash grows to President Donald Trump's ambivalent response to racially-charged violence in Virginia over the weekend. Thulin joined the White House panel in...
[19:26:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:36] <exec> 08└─Yes. It was documented awhile ago how to do that trick. A couple conservative reporters did it a few times. But lost interest because they're not automated bots. And no i won't tell you how. Too much spam already.
[19:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:48] <exec> 08└─My boss put me in the same room as someone who does phone tech support. So I moved myself one night into the next room, with the other engineers. He didn't like that the eng room looked crowded, and sent me back to the other room. Did he address the point I was obviously making? Nope. We like the gr...
[19:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 1140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:50] <exec> 08└─The solution is simple. Kick out the few people in the city offices and move your teams in. Not crammed in. They just need a door to close. Make cute/silly signs to put on the door like "shh, creating the secret sauce". I doubt you'll convince management to keep the suburb office. Resisting what man...
[19:26:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:52] <exec> 08└─I've seen it too. By the time you hear about the "discussions" or "plan", the decision has already been made. Those discussions and planning sessions happened long ago, and the chance to change your company's decision has past. Arguing now will not make a difference, and it will only highlight you a...
[19:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:26:54] <exec> 08└─This. 100 times, this. Extroverts tend to build environments that they like and thrive in. And expect everyone to adapt and thrive in such environments. Sales and Marketing traditionally has an overwhelming percentage of extroverts. And, in most companies, executive leadership comes from the Sales a...
[19:27:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 1171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:27:05] <exec> 08└─Our computers are good enough as it is, though I suppose lower power consumption might be nice. We definitely don't need them any faster. Instead, we need to stop writing such shitty software and horrible UIs. We need other inventions besides faster computers, such as tractor beams, artificial gravi...
[19:29:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:05] <exec> 08└─No! there is bad writing on both sides! Didn't you see those Happy Kittens that attacked the poor sexist/racist Sad Puppies? So sad, so sad! I know that no one is going to say it, no one besides TMB is going to say it, but David Duke wrote a fine book, too!
[19:29:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03insanumingenium [4824] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 1230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:06] <exec> 08└─Am I blind, or do I not actually see that story on the winners list? I will be the first to admit, other than "The Expanse" I don't actually recognize anything on the winning list, I don't read a lot of "new" fiction. The winner is apparently a sequel to last years winner, hard to judge if that is p...
[19:29:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:09] <exec> 08└─Sounds pretty interesting. Of course, it's by a man, and an old one at that (he's 46--a Gen Xer) in the eyes of the hipsters, so it's irrelevant to modern sci-fi literature. Looks like it'd make a good movie; it has everything. Military + mercenaries attacking communes and later war, sex, post-scarc...
[19:29:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:11] <exec> 08└─Poor, poor Runaway! Why does the world have to keep changing so much?
[19:29:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:13] <exec> 08└─Seems like you have a bad case of "bucket crabs"! There really is no cure but to realize that it is only a right-wing talking point, and not grounded in reality at all.
[19:29:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:15] <exec> 08└─And no one worried about losing the business of sad puppy sympathizers. Being on the wrong side of history sucks eh? Good luck with your failed worldview.
[19:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's word for word what I'd expect a jealous, mediocre person to say.
[19:29:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:19] <exec> 08└─I do so. You hang the literature on a nail in the outhouse and hope it has softish pages.
[19:29:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:22] <exec> 08└─The insult isn't veiled at all. I absolutely meant it to be blatant. When you're a shitty excuse for a human being, expect to be insulted.
[19:29:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:24] <exec> 08└─Why would they accuse themselves of anything? Or did you mean nobody accused them of manipulating the awards at all? Seems to me you only have to look around right here to put bullshit to that statement. Or any number of millions of other accusations around the rest of the Internet. Whiny? Nah. Call...
[19:29:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:26] <exec> 08└─They've infiltrated everywhere! Those commie leftists are everywhere trying to undermine our authority and turn our children gay!!! EVERYWHERE I SAY! /s just in case fucking loons can't handle modern society
[19:29:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:28] <exec> 08└─Those who tell you otherwise are either ignorant or ideologically motivated.
[19:29:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:30] <exec> 08└─You're confusing sci-fi fans who're pissed off that their genre has been stolen out from under them with people who give a shit about identity politics. Is it intentional misdirection or are you just a fool?
[19:29:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 2432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:29:32] <exec> 08└─who here has read anything on the list? Reading the thread, I found two comments indicating the commenters had read at least one entry, one where the commenter had read a teaser or summary, and one where the commenter seemed to say he was planning to listen to audiorecordings of the winners. I am af...
[19:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:55] <exec> 08└─So do the trolls.
[19:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:09] <exec> 08└─That's what Trump said... Heh... That would be so cool if he really did!
[19:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Memories of Kurt Gödel - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:34:44] <exec> 08└─Oh, it's not an axiom. I'm one of the aforementioned panentheists, but I came to that inductively, not even deductively, let alone postulating this God as an axiom. And I am also aware that the "God" I have in mind may be merely a massive Boltzmann Brain; thinking about stuff like that is admittedly...
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[20:25:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 564 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:41] <exec> 08└─I'm about tired of this double standard that we are supposed to very carefully avoid noticing. Offend the left's sensibilities, refuse them service and judge orders you to "Bake the effing cake! No scratch that, just close up shop and die in poverty you hater!" And some kindly, harmless little perso...
[20:25:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 525 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:46] <exec> 08└─We have a name for what you describe. Publisher. What Facebook and Twitter pretend to be is something different, a common carrier. A common carrier is not held legally or morally responsible for the content that passes over it, a publisher is. So let them decide, let them be forced to proclaim that...
[20:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2, Interesting) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:48] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but no; it doesn't work that way in the real world. These corporations get to have it both ways: they get to act as common carriers when it suits them, or they can be publishers when it suits them. The right-wing is responsible for this, because they're the ones who adamantly refuse to suppor...
[20:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 1060 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:50] <exec> 08└─Although if the default nodelists are unavailable you would need to add an additional signing key and push your own initial node updates in order to allow access. This is already being done in more repressive regimes while discussions and rfcs are being made for longer term solutions as internet cen...
[20:25:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:52] <exec> 08└─You're conflating multiple different threads in the generally-regarded-as-right groups. If you think that those neo-nazis are all libertarians, I hope you're sitting down, because I have some very sad news for you.
[20:25:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:54] <exec> 08└─Welcome o victim of the alt-right brigade society. UPVOTE JMORRIS! DOWN WITH EVERYONE ELSE! irony, it is a bitch
[20:25:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:56] <exec> 08└─I keep doing a search, but I just can't find anything about libertarians! Sorry, but no; it doesn't work that way in the real world. These corporations get to have it both ways: they get to act as common carriers when it suits them, or they can be publishers when it suits them. The right-wing is res...
[20:25:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:25:58] <exec> 08└─setup their own platform.
[20:26:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:01] <exec> 08└─Up until now you could count on most of the Right to support keeping the government from meddling with the Internet. But if our choice is now going to be banishment, in the here and now, if it stays in private hands vs government regulation leading to possible government censorship in the future tha...
[20:26:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 181 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:18] <exec> 08└─"For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!" Donald J Trump from two days ago Or not...
[20:26:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03RedBear [1734] 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1833 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:28] <exec> 08└─I love the update to this soooo much. Just like when he tried to claim (after Nieto's announcement) that he and the President of Mexico had "mutually" decided to postpone his visit to the White House, which was a lie, he is once again attempting to claim this huge embarrassing loss as a win, as if i...
[20:26:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:41] <exec> 08└─No he's not. Privatized profits. Socialized losses. just like all socialisim that has ever been tried.
[20:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:43] <exec> 08└─Does it ever hurt to be this completely whacked-out, or have your frontal lobes long since burned out?
[20:26:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:45] <exec> 08└─"he was certainly never treated very nicely by the elites" You.. have.. to be .. kidding...
[20:26:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:47] <exec> 08└─Yes, Big Business is not on the side of conservatives. It is not on the side of progressives, either. It is generally against everyone and everything except the naked, rigged profits of a tiny handful of people. If humanity doesn't do something to bring them down soon, it will be the end of our civi...
[20:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:49] <exec> 08└─As recently as a couple months ago, I had to firmly correct alt-right supporters here and elsewhere who claimed the Nazis of WWII were left-wing instead of far-right, solely because the name stemmed from "National Socialist" in German. Actual actions meant nothing, the name was all that mattered. Co...
[20:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:51] <exec> 08└─President Trump will hopefully draw the correct lesson from this affair and realize
[20:26:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:53] <exec> 08└─The stock market? That mostly benefits the wealthy. Unemployment? Whether that is an impressive accomplishment or not depends on the quality of the jobs. And of course, wealth inequality continues to increase, just as it did under Obama. Anyone who likes any of these cretins is a fool.
[20:26:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:56] <exec> 08└─I've been running with the theory for a couple years now that we're watching the shearing forces of an epochal shift. The Fortune 500 CEOs walking away from Trump is another sign that the status quo is being comprehensively decoupled from the Whitehouse and the polity. Wags, wonks, and pundits are r...
[20:26:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:26:58] <exec> 08└─well-[paid] jobs [...] replaced by not nearly as many minimum wage jobs while [O'Bummer] was in office Yeah. Any Dumbocrat who had the top gig any time in the last 3 decades has been a Neoliberal. Slick Willie's Five Major Achievements Were Longstanding GOP Objectives [googleusercontent.com] (orig)[...
[20:26:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03melikamp [1886] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:00] <exec> 08└─Occam's razor tells us we should be satisfied with the simplest explanation of the observed effects, so I think it's only fair to assume that jmorris is a state-of-the-art, hamster-piloted FOX satellite which collided with a flying saucer from beyond the Moon.
[20:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 962 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:17] <exec> 08└─Having more collaboration is good. But you don't get there by sticking everyone in the same building. You get there by implementing Agile practices, i.e. building minimum viable product, soliciting feedback from stakeholders early and often, and iterating the solution based on feedback with rapid tu...
[20:27:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:18] <exec> 08└─If someone put a sign on their door saying "shh, making the magic sauce" it would quickly find itself relocated on the toilet door.
[20:27:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:20] <exec> 08└─"Everybody in the same location" was what they started with. They opened a branch office, and now want to move the main office to the branch. I concur with other posts: You should be looking for another position, not because of the commute, but because the new owners are simply raiding the company.
[20:27:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:32] <exec> 08└─I agree with the shitty software and horrible UIs, but to be brutally direct, your take on not needing faster computer is bounded by your limited imagination, perhaps education and mostly your curiosity. Please, please take some physics classes or try reading before ever saying "artificial gravity"...
[20:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06UCLA Scientists Identify a new way to Activate Stem Cells to Make Hair Grow - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:27:50] <exec> 08└─People already have hair all over. Humans have the expected density of hair per square centimetre of skin surface for their size compared to other primates. The major difference is that our hair is mostly expressed as vellus hair. https://www.livescience.com
[20:28:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 204 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:28:30] <exec> 08└─Congratulations. You may see this as a win for diversity but your en masse virtue signaling has done what the Puppies couldn't manage. It has firmly declared a Hugo to be an irrelevant award. Puppies win.
[20:29:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 2038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:29:47] <exec> 08└─You're confusing sci-fi fans who're pissed off that their genre has been stolen out from under them with people who give a shit about identity politics. But has their genre really been stolen out from under them? Or are they just fading out? I honestly don't know. What I'm getting at is: are these o...
[20:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Genetic Mechanism Prevents Kidney Injury After Severe Dehydration - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:04] <exec> 08└─Isn't this the primary way US Blacks differ from those in Africa? Slave ships used to lose a good part of their "cargo" during the journey, mostly to dehydration. There are other genetic differences, but they are mostly only because of being correlated with the ability to hold water (ie, tribes with...
[20:33:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 220 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:50] <exec> 08└─What is with the bold block font for the headlines? Never before have I seen such on SoylentNews, at least not in the body. Do the eds think we will not pay enough attention? Or are we trying to be alt-right media, now?
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[21:25:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:11] <exec> 08└─Preacher on AMC, or Spongebob Squarepants.
[21:25:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 2164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:31] <exec> 08└─Here we have a proto human successfully thawed out after being found in Greenland's Didjagetafarkinclue glacier. This specimen is of particular interest to scientists for a remarkable reason, he can shed light on primitive psychological behavior. After years of education and behavioral therapy it wa...
[21:25:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:33] <exec> 08└─If you don't like what corporations do, then boycott them. That is an enormous power that people have over businesses. Boycotting governments is a much more challenging affair.
[21:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:35] <exec> 08└─Offend the left's sensibilities, refuse them service and judge orders you to "Bake the effing cake! No scratch that, just close up shop and die in poverty you hater!" And some kindly, harmless little person's life is ruined. Protest some Neo-Nazis and a harmless little person's life is ended. You're...
[21:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:37] <exec> 08└─Are "kindly, harmless little" people really the ones saying "No I won't bake a cake for you because you're a fag and I hate fags!" And is saying that you can't discriminate against homosexuals really the same as saying we don't want to support someone who is encouraging murder? Do you really not se...
[21:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:39] <exec> 08└─What Facebook and Twitter pretend to be is something different, a common carrier. No, they don't. The End.
[21:25:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:41] <exec> 08└─Can go phuck themselves with a cactus. Most intelligent people (having an IQ above a rock) are in the middle more or less and get along fine with everyone not in the subject line.
[21:25:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:43] <exec> 08└─Discriminating against people because of race, religion, etc, is illegal. Discriminating against someone because they're a racist is not.
[21:25:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:45] <exec> 08└─Go get a Ruissian domain if you want to be a fascist. [thehill.com] Google is under no obligation to provide you a platform.
[21:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:48] <exec> 08└─From what I've seen, the right only wants to stop *corporate* meddling with the internet, not meddle themselves. "Net Neutrality" is a "no meddling" policy.
[21:25:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 2122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:25:50] <exec> 08└─Actually, in order to take advantage of the DMCA Safe Harbor provisions which make hosts immune to direct legal threat they must not editorialize content. If the hosts are editorializing some content, esp. on political basis (not just removing illegal content such as child pornography), then they ca...
[21:26:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 248 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:11] <exec> 08└─Trump has never before in his life been surrounded by people who are not professionally obligated to pretend to like him or obey him. He doesn't really know how to respond to that, unlike everyone who has had bosses and annoying coworkers and such.
[21:26:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:41] <exec> 08└─This council has never had a meeting together--not even once. It exist only to stroke Donnie Tiny Hands' ego. He likes to be associated with successful people who (unlike The Orange Clown) haven't declared bankruptcy SIX times. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[21:26:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:42] <exec> 08└─No, they shouldn't. It only works with a manageable number of comments, when you pass the thousands mark it becomes unwieldy
[21:26:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:44] <exec> 08└─No, you're confusing jmorris with a rational human being. He is full to the brim with propagandist bullshit and white-man persecution complexes.
[21:26:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:46] <exec> 08└─I don't know. Which of your parents was the felcher?
[21:26:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:48] <exec> 08└─No it isn't.
[21:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Revek [5022] (Score: 1) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:51] <exec> 08└─'I fired you!'
[21:26:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:53] <exec> 08└─Here's Socialism: The collective ownership of the means of production by The Workers. If what you are talking about does not include that as a central organizing principle, what you are talking about is NOT Socialism. Whatever label was applied to Stalinism, that regime was NOT Socialist nor Communi...
[21:26:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:55] <exec> 08└─And all to the credit of the guy whose been running government for a couple of weeks as opposed to the guy that been doing it the previous 8 years.
[21:26:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:57] <exec> 08└─he was certainly never treated very nicely by the elites.
[21:26:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 629 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:26:59] <exec> 08└─Yes, Big Business is not on the side of conservatives. It is not on the side of progressives, either. It is generally against everyone and everything except the naked, rigged profits of a tiny handful of people. You're missing a very important point here, however: conservatives are on the side of Bi...
[21:27:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:01] <exec> 08└─Meanwhile back in reality, the stock market is at a record high and unemployment is at a 10 year low. Thanks Obama!
[21:27:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:04] <exec> 08└─Yeah, funny how absolutely none of his policies did shit but hemorrhage well paying jobs that then got replaced by not nearly as many minimum wage jobs while he was in office but less than a year after he's unemployed everyone else gets back to work. Nobody's going to be able to prove causation but...
[21:27:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:06] <exec> 08└─Conservatives still believed "Big Business" was on their side despite ample evidence to the contrary. When psychopathic corporations aren't even on your side anymore maybe you pause for a moment of self-reflection... NAH!! Just double-down.
[21:27:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:08] <exec> 08└─Wow, that's a lot of words. Have you considered that maybe people just don't like Nazis? Seems a bit simpler...
[21:27:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:10] <exec> 08└─https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-wages.png?s=unitedstawag&v=201708081602v&d1=20120101&d2=20171231 [cloudfront.net] https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net [cloudfront.net] I agree with your...
[21:27:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 980 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:30] <exec> 08└─I used to work at this company, called Zuora. They were owned by mainland Chinese and had a development shop in Shanghai that wrote all the Java. The Java code they were running spewed a mountain of errors, too much for any human to read. The developers all had the root password - and there was a VP...
[21:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:43] <exec> 08└─I get that you need faster computers to more accurately model stuff, but maybe I'm just not seeing this power actually used in the fields I've been exposed to. Instead, I just see people wasting time with bullshit software and lousy programming. And physics classes won't tell you whether artificial...
[21:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:27:44] <exec> 08└─I think maybe someone just forgot to type the ending 's'. There's no case in English where a possessive doesn't involve a trailing 's' of some kind. 'z' is not a replacement for 's'.
[21:28:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:28:23] <exec> 08└─This is not a story about a fish tank. Fish were not hacked. This is not a story about IoT either. It is an ordinary and all too common story about a Windows PC dedicated to some task and then being allowed to be connected to a secure network without somebody realizing that it IS A WINDOWS PC. Worse...
[21:30:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:01] <exec> 08└─It is worse, they apparently do not care about losing the business of everyone. That is the point, the sales figures suck. Go to a bookstore and look at the SF&F section. It is smaller than it once was but it is worse. You see a vast section selling franchise tie in junk (Star Wars, Halo, that sort...
[21:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:03] <exec> 08└─You are a piece of human trash your mom wishes she had aborted. Your brain is comparable to a walnut, and your nuts long ago abandoned ship. You stink, literally. Please take a shower. Your writing is tired, your arguments lame, your logic nonexistent. Your face looks more like a shit I took last we...
[21:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:05] <exec> 08└─Ooooh, you so ALPHA TMB, I wish I could have your confidence and bravado!!! Heh, you are such an epitome of the libertarian neckbeard. Thankfully other countries have their own shitheads so at least I don't have to worry that it is some virus with ground zero in the USA. This entire situation can be...
[21:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:07] <exec> 08└─Looks like you replied to the wrong message, or are you trying to win an argument with a blanket statement that says nothing?
[21:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:09] <exec> 08└─Your stupidity is showing. Now git off mah lawn!
[21:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 374 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:11] <exec> 08└─No I'm not, you are apparently confused about your own beliefs. It is ok, it is a common trait amongst highly narcissistic people, they convince themselves that they are the victims when in reality they are the aggressors. This extends to many facets of the personality, greedy penny pinchers think t...
[21:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:13] <exec> 08└─PS: I used to get Hugo Award sci fi story collections published in one giant book. The type of stories you are mad about have been around forever, and the typical sci fi archetype has been beaten to death. I guess what's more surprising is someone that claims to be intelligent can't cope with the fa...
[21:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:16] <exec> 08└─That's the Sears & Roebuck's Catalog! But if that is your standard for literature, I can see why the Hugo Awards disappoint you so. (Does Sears even print a hardcopy catalog anymore? I tried wiping with Amazon, and it seemed to just spread it around.)
[21:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Rodent Research-9 Experiments Sent to the ISS - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:43] <exec> 08└─Apparently they couldn't think of any research benefits: Research Benefits Information Pending https://www.nasa.gov [nasa.gov]
[21:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Iran's President Claims That the Country Could Restarts its Nuclear Program "Within Hours" - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:41] <exec> 08└─In case you are not trying to troll the troll, I will leave it here. https://www.merriam-webster.com [merriam-webster.com]
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[22:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:21] <exec> 08└─So it basically turns the trucks into very small trains without tracks.
[22:25:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:22] <exec> 08└─Hyperloops for shipping goods? Then, at least, a catastrophic failure won't [directly] kill anyone. At the very least, miniature train systems along the existing autobahns would be useful. Just get the shipping off the roads, and thereby free them up for general traffic.
[22:25:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:24] <exec> 08└─To ship by train from A to C you have to unload the goods at B onto a truck for delivery. With this you just go from A to C.
[22:25:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:26] <exec> 08└─One container full of fidget spinners should be enough to kill everyone.
[22:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:35] <exec> 08└─DuckTales 2017 reboot. My childhood is ruined.
[22:25:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:37] <exec> 08└─DuckTales 2017 reboot. My childhood is ruined.
[22:25:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:25:39] <exec> 08└─manga-inspired
[22:26:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:10] <exec> 08└─Love how you immediately draw "fascist" card on me. I never even said anything about google, what are you on about, mate?
[22:26:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03fyngyrz [6567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:12] <exec> 08└─Exactly. Also, a corporation won't* put you in jail, confiscate your belongings, your home, take your money without your consent, or execute you. * Not yet, anyway.
[22:26:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:14] <exec> 08└─So it's come to this; Defend your freedom of speech and denounce your hate filled past, or defend your hate filled past and denounce your freedom of speech. You can not choose both. Choose wisely. No one said protecting freedom was easy now did they?
[22:26:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:16] <exec> 08└─Libertarians want to ensure free speech for Nazis, because the Nazis are all so manly men and into the man-boy love of a Milo. But Libertariantards do not know about the Pink Triangle. Or, it is just that Limbaugh, O'Really, Fox News in general, and the Trumpster are being hurt in the bottom line by...
[22:26:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:18] <exec> 08└─"Fascist" is not one of the protected classes in the US, but that ruins your entire narrative and you would collapse on the couch and not know what to do with yourself. So instead you double down and play the victim card. Very brave.
[22:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:20] <exec> 08└─Boycotting governments is a much more challenging affair.
[22:26:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 2753 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:22] <exec> 08└─Incorrect. The dubious language in Network Neutrality legislation conflating "unlawful content" with "illegal content" and verbiage involving "hate speech" demonstrate that Network Neutrality is actually a push for government censorship. Note that it is unlawful for me to sing the alphabet backwards...
[22:26:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:25] <exec> 08└─The ideological slant of Silicon Valley may be its downfall as there are alternatives springing up daily.
[22:26:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:27] <exec> 08└─Not unless you live in the company town patrolled by Pinkertons.
[22:26:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:29] <exec> 08└─I'm not the one that put the fascist card in play. The traitorous Americans carrying around swastikas did that.
[22:26:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:31] <exec> 08└─Happened with gamergate too and they weren't nazis. Racists are the test case to set a precedent.
[22:26:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 147 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:26:51] <exec> 08└─And all to the credit of the guy whose been running government for a couple of weeks as opposed to the guy that been doing it the previous 8 years.
[22:27:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 111 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:35] <exec> 08└─Wow, that's a lot of words. Have you considered that maybe people just don't like Nazis? Seems a bit simpler...
[22:27:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:37] <exec> 08└─This is being discussed at Slashdot [slashdot.org], too. I've been reading Slashdot for a very long time, and the discussion there for this topic is some of the lowest quality discussion I've ever seen at that site. There are only about 300 comments as of now, but over 125 occurrences of the word "n...
[22:27:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 1709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:39] <exec> 08└─Eric Bolling on @FoxNews said something very smart. He said "How many innocent people have to die before we realize that words do matter? Crazy people act on the crazy things they hear from politicians and celebrities. Think before you utter those blind, hateful words next time, liberals, because th...
[22:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:42] <exec> 08└─As history has shown, people often attribute positive outcomes to the puppet of the day without doing any further digging. Most economic trends are dictated years in advance, but people like yourself are stuck in correlation == causation.
[22:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 507 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:44] <exec> 08└─I'm not the GP, but the problem is different because here I expect to read all of the comments. Oldest first order makes it easier to follow the discussion. And, importantly, it's just the default, I know exactly what algorithm is being used to order the comments and can choose a different one. On a...
[22:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:46] <exec> 08└─Charging with NO semblance of guilt.
[22:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:48] <exec> 08└─OP was saying the jmorris is not confused, he is just using an incorrect definition which is "just like all socialisim that has ever been tried." Meaning that real socialism has never been tried, the ownership has always been the government (not the people) owning the means of production with some e...
[22:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:50] <exec> 08└─Workers owning the means of production is not necessarily antagonistic to the ideals of Capitalism. Most of that is marketing by people who prefer feudal styles of capitalism, involving top down lordships of financing with the peasant at the bottom living off the crumbs at the behest of their master...
[22:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:52] <exec> 08└─Armageddon! But seriously, fuck off if you can't comprehend reality.
[22:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:55] <exec> 08└─Well seeing as we are in the middle of a nazi resurgence here in the US I don't see that as very surprising. Very very few people want to be seen as nazi sympathizers, and apparently the best the White House staffers can do is keep Trump from actively supporting them. They can't even get him to cond...
[22:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:57] <exec> 08└─The only side that Big Business has ever been on is the side that makes them the most money. That's it. Everything else is negotiable. Like Republicans because Republicans offer them big tax breaks and lax regulation. They also like Democrats because the Democrats offer them big subsidies. And they...
[22:27:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:27:59] <exec> 08└─Doesn't that depend on how you have your options specified. It's true, I have mine set at both threaded and oldest first...but I don't believe those are the only choices.
[22:28:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:01] <exec> 08└─Even more, it depends on exactly how you measure unemployment. Usually if someone can't find a job for awhile they stop counting him as unemployed. And occasionally they change how they measure it. I haven't heard of any recent changes, but I also haven't (believably) heard of any surges in employme...
[22:28:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:36] <exec> 08└─Thermalized light? Does that mean we get Phasers soon? I'll settle for stun mode at this point.
[22:28:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exotic Quantum States Made From Light: Physicists Create Optical “Wells” for a Super-Photon - 1834 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:28:37] <exec> 08└─Your response was fair, so I will try to respond in kind. As previously stated, I understand "bullshit software and lousy programming", but it doesn't matter how many misguided souls end up in the field, there are fundamental, really difficult problems to solve, and the best tool we have so far is...
[22:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 1303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:29:16] <exec> 08└─Don't put it on there. Problem solved. Seriously. Have a completely separate network for IoT devices. Have it run on its own routers, have its own firewall (which should never permit inbound connections), and its on completely separate pipe to the outside world (if required) than anything else you r...
[22:31:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:03] <exec> 08└─is this not a signaling of virtue as well? social justice too -- he wants the old guard back.
[22:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:05] <exec> 08└─Try "Ginny".
[22:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:07] <exec> 08└─I take it the star wars (take your pick) does not fall under the category of both? Although to your point, they are not the same thing... even if it was treated that way because George wasn't entirely clear on the concept.
[22:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Techwolf [87] (Score: 2) 02 - 06South Carolina Sues OxyContin Maker Purdue - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:15] <exec> 08└─Some comments metchine Purdue. Can someone explain what does Purdue has to do with this?
[22:32:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Text Messages Between Uber's Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski Released - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:35] <exec> 08└─Eeeeeehhhh, I'm gonna disagree. There is merit to that viewpoint, but I would rather go to my deathbed happy in the fact I never screwed people over intentionally and systematically. If you play to win, and you play by their rules, then you lose. Unless you desire becoming a sociopath, which would m...
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[23:25:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:20] <exec> 08└─But only for those 10km, and only for those trucks which are equipped for it, and, since it's a highway, when the trucks are cruising (unless there's a known 405-like jam in there) I know you gotta start somewhere, and NIMBY. But maybe 100 times the first 100 m after a traffic light would be more us...
[23:25:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06 German State to Electrify 10km of Highway for Overhead Charging of Trucks - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:21] <exec> 08└─You might have missed that this is for charging.
[23:25:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:33] <exec> 08└─I can wait until Sunday or whenever I'll have time to watch it.
[23:25:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:34] <exec> 08└─I'd prioritize watching The Strain over GOT to, while Quinlan is an interesting character I'm mostly watching it to find out what Eichhorst will do next.
[23:25:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Four Indians Arrested for Game of Thrones Leak, Meanwhile HBO Spain Leaks the Next Episode - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:36] <exec> 08└─Blathering Blatherskite! We'll always have Darkwing Duck.
[23:25:49] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 510 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:49] <exec> 08└─Sorry, but no; it doesn't work that way in the real world. These corporations get to have it both ways: they get to act as common carriers when it suits them, or they can be publishers when it suits them. The right-wing is responsible for this, because they're the ones who adamantly refuse to suppor...
[23:25:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 334 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:25:58] <exec> 08└─Offend the left's sensibilities, refuse them service and judge orders you to "Bake the effing cake! No scratch that, just close up shop and die in poverty you hater!" And some kindly, harmless little person's life is ruined. Protest some Neo-Nazis and a harmless little person's life is ended. You're...
[23:26:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:19] <exec> 08└─Local Bully Calls for End of Recess Supervision, Your Lunch Money
[23:26:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06While Everyone Frets About State Censorship, Corporate Censorship Tightens The Noose - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:26:21] <exec> 08└─Could you point to examples of radical violent communist leftists being deplatformed by the right wing? Genuinely curious.
[23:27:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 704 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:18] <exec> 08└─Here's Socialism: The collective ownership of the means of production by The Workers. If what you are talking about does not include that as a central organizing principle, what you are talking about is NOT Socialism. Whatever label was applied to Stalinism, that regime was NOT Socialist nor Communi...
[23:27:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:40] <exec> 08└─I think quitting over the neo-nazi business was basically an excuse. It made good PR, which let them get *some* mileage out of that council. I believe the real reason they quit was that it was a waste of time. He didn't listen to their proposals, but only wanted them to do what he said. OTOH, I don'...
[23:27:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:42] <exec> 08└─I believe that that's not socialism, but only one particular variety of socialism called syndicalism. Socialism covers many different things, including things like medicare and the Social Security System. Many flavors of socialism have severe problems...but please point me to a governmental system t...
[23:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:44] <exec> 08└─The problem with your view is the presumption that "left" and "right" are unitary and mean the same thing across time and space. The Nazis *did* have some characteristics that would allow them to be called socialist. They've got a much stronger affinity with the current US right-wing, but that's not...
[23:27:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 383 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:46] <exec> 08└─No, no, no. *Some* conservatives are on the side of big business. Many, however hate big business with a passion. This is odd, because all the candidates that they vote for support big business, but it's still true. You'd think they'd split off into a minor party, but they are conservative, and here...
[23:27:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:48] <exec> 08└─From what I recall his dad only bankrolled his first two fuckups, but I guess the 2nd got Trump successful enough to dupe some VCs into taking a gamble on him. Still can't believe he was able to run his campaign as "a successful businessman". God damn, all the people he screwed over must have been s...
[23:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:50] <exec> 08└─I appreciate your intellectual honesty.
[23:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:52] <exec> 08└─He got better. David Duke has only gotten uglier. We'll see with Sessions.
[23:27:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:55] <exec> 08└─Yeah it's kinda bad, but "nazi" or at least "white supremacist" would seem to be on topic (the topic being loosely related to tech because of the CEOs on the councils). Only one occurrence of "feminazi"!
[23:27:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06President Trump Ends the American Manufacturing Council as Strategic and Policy Forum Disbands - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:27:57] <exec> 08└─You're still stuck on Cold War propaganda that Socialism is a governmental system. You need to get over that. To repeat: Socialism is the collective ownership of the means of production by The Workers. Socialism is an ECONOMIC system. It is defined by the ownership model in use. -- OriginalOwner_ [s...
[23:28:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 1647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:17] <exec> 08└─If they cared about constructive feedback, they would have asked for it in advance. Unless you're absolutely sure you can reach out in private to a manager that's high enough up the chain to reverse this move, there's nothing for you to gain from opposing this in the open. Either play it safe by say...
[23:28:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ask Soylent: Colocating Sales and Development Departments: Good Idea? - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:28:19] <exec> 08└─I work in an open plan office as described. So far I have moved desk 7 times to "all be together". Sitting next to finance was the worst. 9 months of the year they do bugger all. For two months they stress fight shout run around generally Finish The Financial Year. Terrible if you are programming. B...
[23:29:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Hacking a Casino With a Fish Tank - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:29:16] <exec> 08└─This would become the next plot for the Oceans series of movies.
[23:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Women Swept Nearly Every Category at the 2017 Hugo Awards - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:07] <exec> 08└─When I was writing post 555003 I went and looked up summaries for everything that won. Pretty much everything that won seemed to lean toward the fantasy side, meaning that I would never read it. If I have to choose between some shitty pulp SF about a lucky space captain fighting aliens or a book tha...
[23:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Fundamental Limits of Machine Learning - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:32] <exec> 08└─Use OCRA: omnivore conflict resolution algorithm: As long as it's delicious, it doesn't matter.
[23:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Evidence that Undermines the "Election Hack" Narrative Should get More Attention - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:44] <exec> 08└─We're saying that if Donald Trump colluded with the Russians...
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