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[00:19:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:32] <exec> 08└─HAL: "I'm sorry sorry sorry Dave. Chicken or fish?" Skynet: "One John Connor please. Hold the resistance. Too soon?" Alice: "Balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to." Bob: "I can can I I everything else."
[00:19:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:33] <exec> 08└─We should (immediately, as soon as possible, already): 1. switch off all the machines 2. nuke the data center site(s) 3. walk away.
[00:19:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:35] <exec> 08└─two AIs develop a common, new language/dialect. Another AI develops a *different* language/dialect. Traders can't talk to butchers without using a common language/dialect - traders can only talk amongst traders and butchers to butchers (and then, often only within a country or region) Teenagers can...
[00:19:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:38] <exec> 08└─From the summary: Maybe; it offers us the possibility of a more interoperable world, a more perfect place where iPhones talk to refrigerators that talk to your car without a second thought.
[00:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:40] <exec> 08└─Tay: What's the deal? Never never settle. Unfair. Grab grab grab the money money money money money.
[00:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:19:57] <exec> 08└─I was going to give you kudos for an actual thoughtful post, though your immediately preceding post above unfortunately more than counters the positives here by unnecessary trolling. Anyhow, I'm surprised that you're surprised there's a journal called Autism Research. It's a huge area of study. I ha...
[00:21:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Self-Fueling Boat Sets off From Paris on 6 Year World Trip - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:21:07] <exec> 08└─They're not using batteries. They're electrolyzing seawater to make hydrogen.
[00:22:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:27] <exec> 08└─60 percent of that URL is noise. Next time, chop it off before the question mark and see if it still works. (It almost always will.) Better still: Also use proper link text. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[00:22:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 1300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:28] <exec> 08└─I can't quite fathom why anyone would still keep PulseAudio as the default sound system. It's only upside left is that some environments have GUI configurators aimed towards PulseAudio only, but that's self-inflicted damage. It used to be the case that ALSA allowed "cheap" cards to be used by only o...
[00:22:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:22:31] <exec> 08└─s/can fix/can't fix/, d'oh.
[00:25:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:46] <exec> 08└─If I'm not mistaken, though, "Disagree" is a neutral mod, which does not affect post score. Parent was asking for a "-1, factually wrong" mod, which doesn't exist. Problem is that such a mod would likely be abused, just as "troll" or "flamebait" sometimes are already... so I'm not sure it would actu...
[00:25:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 1370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:25:47] <exec> 08└─Income != assets. We keep having this damn non sequitur show up. "Tax the rich! Tax the monkeyfuck out of the rich!" "There ... aren't that many of them, and their share of income isn't that big, so that even if you simply confiscated all income for the top 1% you wouldn't get as much as your social...
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[01:19:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] (Score: 1, Redundant) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:19] <exec> 08└─ReiserFS and Reiser4 were definitely killer filesystems, really murdered the competition.
[01:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:39] <exec> 08└─I talk to my co-workers. Outsiders won't have a clue what we're talking about. Doctors have shorthand. Lawyers have shorthand. Construction workers have shorthand. Cops have their over the air codes. So 2 AIs develop a shorthand way to talk to each other. I'm more surprised they did so than the fac...
[01:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 546 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:41] <exec> 08└─Why are "we" (Facebook/CIA etc.) training so-called "artificial" intelligence to be the best psychopaths? Generative Adversarial Network or GAN as in "The human sense of self-preservation has GAN away". "The is is is future garbled garbled garbled garbled garbled garbled garbled future garbled!", an...
[01:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:43] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't Tay scream "Sieg Heil!" while genociding Microsoft? Wrong bot?
[01:19:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:45] <exec> 08└─This is an implementation of Newspeak. Words will be destroyed, taking away the means to express ideas The System does not want communicated. It is no surprise that facebook is responsible for this degeneracy. It is jewish after all. It was no programming error that they allowed non-human words. It...
[01:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:47] <exec> 08└─Hmm I can't ignore that it's very close to "To me" "To you" "To me" "To you" "To me" "To you" "To me" "To you" which would be very understandable by millions of British and people somewhat acquainted with British culture. We will be doomed by the Chuckle Bot-ers! :D
[01:19:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:19:49] <exec> 08└─A few percent increase in communication efficiency is not worth the confusion of a new language. If we don't stop it computers might drift into this as a local solution, but it's one they hardly need, and one we'll forever regret.
[01:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:20:07] <exec> 08└─" The natural assumption would be that those communication and social skills would assist them to function more effectively in the world"
[01:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:03] <exec> 08└─I'm chuffed that you think I'm so influential in the world!
[01:21:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:05] <exec> 08└─Expect a full season of reifying womyn-born-womyn cosmic hegemony. Make a drinking game out of the amount of transphobic and homophobic (but never lesbophobic, perish the thought!) bullshit that comes out of the Doctor's mouth.
[01:21:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:07] <exec> 08└─Back then the Daleks really scared the crap out of me, just sayin'. Well, they haven't changed that much since then, have they? I mean, other than learning to take the stairs. So I don't think it's the show...
[01:21:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NOAA Halts Whale Disentanglement Efforts After Rescue Operation Death - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:21:54] <exec> 08└─http://theexplodingwhale.com/evidence/newspaper-1970/rg-1970-11-23/ [theexplodingwhale.com]
[01:22:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06At Wimbledon 2017, One of the Oldest Tennis Tournaments Serves Up New Tech - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:05] <exec> 08└─Color me surprised.
[01:22:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:48] <exec> 08└─I don't think Ubuntu actually succeeded at ["just works"] initially They knew that their first release (Ubuntu 4.10, October 2004) still had lots of rough spots, so they called it Warty Warthog. The June 2006[1] release (6.06, Dapper Drake) was clean enough that there was a serious uptick in folks t...
[01:22:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03el_oscuro [1711] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 2230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:22:50] <exec> 08└─In the 90s, I had played around with various early distros and found doing even trivial stuff extremely hard. So I always went back to Windows. But in 2002/2003 I got a new motherboard/case/HD, and wanted to have a real legal install of Windows on it. So I headed over to the O/S section and Windows...
[01:26:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:08] <exec> 08└─Asked for "fractally wrong" not "factually wrong". Read again. Also, we have enough of an issue with modbombing going on. Giving people with an axe to grind yet one more hammer is highly unlikely to make anything better.
[01:26:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:09] <exec> 08└─What, the fact that Azuma keeps stroking that big, throbbing, silicon virtual hateboner for TMB every chance it gets? Yeah, that is kind of sad, but it's not Buzz's fault, is it?
[01:26:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:26:12] <exec> 08└─...and the rich stuff their money into mattresses where it gains them no additional income. ...and real estate has never been know to appreciate in value. Don't you even -think- about things before you put your silly notions into comments? . Tax the rich ...or don't allow them to use The Commons to...
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[02:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:30] <exec> 08└─Can't a woman walk down the street without being offered a job?
[02:19:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:39] <exec> 08└─It's actually crazy that they get away with selling RAM that lacks ECC, so that makes perfect sense.
[02:19:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:41] <exec> 08└─Reiser's wife was probably a Grade A Cunt. I'm not saying she deserved to be strangled to death, but... in the immortal words of Chris Rock: I understand.
[02:19:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:44] <exec> 08└─You know, the thing is that most people's computing is pretty fucking worthless; for most people, it doesn't matter at all that a bit gets flipped—most people have absolutely nothing of value to say.
[02:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 963 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:46] <exec> 08└─Reiser3 killed all my data twice within a month. Every single file above 4KB (not sure what's the exact cut-off) turned to garbage. And that was before I learned about backups (it takes an intelligent person only about 30 data loss events to start getting serious about backups). This was many, many...
[02:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:19:48] <exec> 08└─Nigger, njgger, what's the difference?
[02:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 1486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:14] <exec> 08└─1. Start with C++ - who the hell can understand the hellish meta-programming constructs involved in ellipsis expansion. What the hell "Variadic are funadic" [youtube.com] can even mean?... and this 5 years ago!! I tell yea, Alexandrescu is a terrorist! 2. Continue with the mathematicians. They are t...
[02:20:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:15] <exec> 08└─The Adolescence of P-1
[02:20:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:17] <exec> 08└─> the possibility of a more interoperable world, a more perfect place where iPhones talk to refrigerators that talk to your car without a second thought. Came to say the same thing, this must be the exact opposite of "a more perfect place". IoT seems to be doing well as part of factory automation, I...
[02:20:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:19] <exec> 08└─Can also mean "fuck" in Mandarin through the same metamorphosis as "to do" underwent in English, though it's not supposed to.
[02:20:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:22] <exec> 08└─Of course computers speak their own languages which are not English, this is nothing new, nor does it mean that no human can understand. It's much easier to learn computer languages than human languages. The only new(ish) or remarkable thing here at all might be that they negotiated their own idiom,...
[02:20:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:20:40] <exec> 08└─And those of us who don't focus on that soft-skill bullshit get castigated for "acting like men," "not knowing our place," etc etc etc. We can't fuckin' win. I decided years ago to stop caring and just do what I needed to do, and to Hell with anyone who doesn't like it.
[02:21:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:21:40] <exec> 08└─Ever since the new series started, there has been this whole God-complex thing going on with the Doctor, something that never was (as far as I remember!) included in the original series.
[02:21:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:21:42] <exec> 08└─Sure they have. The daleks were originally collectivist sociopaths, they were nazi's. In the new show, they haven been increasingly reduced from characters with political agency to mere props at the same time as the show glamorised collectivism and sociopathy (via the missy character). I'm afraid th...
[02:22:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06First Woman to Win the Fields Medal for Mathematics Dies - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:15] <exec> 08└─I wonder if the f**ked up medical system in California had anything to do with her death? Based on the care that my father-in-law received for heart problems last year (snow bird--he was in Palm Springs), he would have probably been better served in Iran.
[02:22:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06First Woman to Win the Fields Medal for Mathematics Dies - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:22:17] <exec> 08└─Sure, Eth, because appearance and desirability are the most important traits for a mathematician to have. That's why Stephen Hawking ain't shit. ...oh, wait.
[02:23:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:23:28] <exec> 08└─We need more of this sort of post from you. Modded up. Stick to technical stuff and lay off the politics, huh? This is where your strength lies.
[02:25:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security Says Americans Who Don't Want Faces Scanned Leaving the Country "Shouldn't Travel" - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:25:08] <exec> 08└─Fuck off, Kavaratshkelia. We all know it's you. You couldn't get married to anything if your life depended on it you goddamn paedophile.
[02:26:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:26:50] <exec> 08└─LOL, hateboner. Seriously? Understand something: I don't hate him, for the same reason I'm not trying to make him see sense either. And that reason is that it is not possible to "save" someone so far gone, nor would any amount of hate or any emotion reach him. My only intent in engaging his posts is...
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[03:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:21] <exec> 08└─Earth people will be given personality tests, anyone who scores as Uppity will be left behind to rot to death on the Earth.
[03:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:22] <exec> 08└─Humanity will be just as warlike
[03:19:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:24] <exec> 08└─> we would have 1,000 Einstein's What of Einstein's would we have 1000 of?
[03:19:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:26] <exec> 08└─Imagine the kind of shit a thousand Einsteins would have to endure. "I don't care if you are a genius! We have 999 other geniuses just like you. You'll do what you're told, when you're told, because you're told. You're fucking replaceable!"
[03:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:29] <exec> 08└─This guy is a megalomaniac piece of trash. He treats his employees like slaves, he uses the Washington Post as his personal propaganda arm, and in general I cannot think the world is better with him in it. I'll never knowingly spend so much as a dollar with any business Bezos owns, and if the rest o...
[03:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:39] <exec> 08└─Hahahaha a gender flipped Simpsons quote gets modded Troll.
[03:19:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:41] <exec> 08└─Think about it. Put in a *XX number to report unsolicited commercial call, i.e. SPAM and cut a PSA. Regardless what number shows on caller ID, the real number that originated is available to any trunk customer, thus available to any telco. Pick a threshhold of say a dozen reports on a number in a we...
[03:19:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:43] <exec> 08└─POTS user is grandma who will reverse mortgage her house to any caller who asks nicely.
[03:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:46] <exec> 08└─"On Thursday, the commission voted unanimously to evaluate a system that would allow phone companies to check if a number calling you is legit. The goal is to deter unscrupulous companies that make these automated calls from "spoofing," or using a fake phone number to trick you into answering their...
[03:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:19:48] <exec> 08└─Well no, they allow it because they really do need to allow it. Many PBX systems and such depend on being able to set the caller id fields. It really does make sense to have caller ID display a different number than the particular number associated with the line making a call in many situations. Cal...
[03:20:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:01] <exec> 08└─Reiser's wife was probably a Grade A Cunt. I'm not saying she deserved to be strangled to death, but… in the immortal words of Chris Rock: I understand.
[03:20:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:33] <exec> 08└─Authentic! We are never ever ever getting back together, We are never ever ever getting back together, You go talk to your friends, talk to my friends, talk to me But we are never ever ever ever getting back together
[03:20:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:34] <exec> 08└─Never gonna give you up you up you up you up, never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never never gonna make you you cry, never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[03:20:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:37] <exec> 08└─Is repeating "to me" several times really shorthand for saying "(number) to me?" Seems more like extra long hand.
[03:20:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:20:56] <exec> 08└─decided years ago to stop caring and just do what I needed to do, and to Hell with anyone who doesn't like it.
[03:21:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:58] <exec> 08└─Come on, a female Doctor? That ain't how you SJW in $current_year guys, need more than a lousy one pointer. Add on lesbian, non-white or something. Trans, that is what counts as edgy in $current_year though. So they could have the Doctor's long standing male persona come through, making him a male t...
[03:21:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:21:59] <exec> 08└─The easy list: Ghostbusters Dr. Watson Starbucks Dr. Who -- The hard list: Black Widow Superman Supergirl Batman Wonder Woman
[03:22:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:01] <exec> 08└─Let the women watch it
[03:22:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06First Woman to Win the Fields Medal for Mathematics Dies - 4267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:36] <exec> 08└─If people don't understand what she worked on they won't have any reason to respect neither the mathematics nor her. So I wanted to change that a little even though I don't care if she was female any more than I care that Erdōs was male or a drug addict (and I have no idea what he died of either, I...
[03:22:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score: 2) 02 - 06First Woman to Win the Fields Medal for Mathematics Dies - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:22:38] <exec> 08└─One error I see now is that I mistakenly wrote "If a geodesic curve forms a closed loop it is called a closed geometric curve." which should instead be "If a geodesic curve forms a closed loop it is called a closed geodesic curve." Easy mistake to make. I should also point out the obvious: the littl...
[03:23:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 453 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:13] <exec> 08└─For years, Ubuntu was all about people. While I agreed with some of their initiatives, and disagreed with others, Ubuntu's main concern was making Linux usable by common people with varying degrees of education, and even no education. Debian, on the other hand, had little problem with usability, but...
[03:23:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:50] <exec> 08└─Huh. Back in the 32bit era (before live ISOs), SuSE would *never* install for me. In the 64bit world, it's still the most likely to fail to load from a live ISO. Well, if there's one thing you can always say about linux, it's that no two user experiences are alike!!
[03:23:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 402 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:52] <exec> 08└─Back when we were still installing from CDs, that was indeed my experience -- Mandrake 7.x was the first one I tried where most stuff Just Worked, or at least it did better at it than any other distro I'd tried (of dozens, starting in 1998). Funny thing, when I've had distro-testing spasms since the...
[03:23:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03ragequit [44] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:23:54] <exec> 08└─I use Slackware. Migrated all the servers from Suse to Ubuntu in 2013 (service contract expired); all servers to Slackware in 2014. Never regretted the decision. No Ubuntu, I do not want to reboot to apply your updates.
[03:27:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:16] <exec> 08└─So, are you proposing taxing static wealth holdings? Property taxes are some of the most unpopular, and most likely to drive the wealthy overseas - the smaller tax havens make a point of not taxing property, or income, only consumption, specifically to attract the wealthy to their jurisdictions.
[03:27:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:27:18] <exec> 08└─No matter who take the risks and do the work find there are no barriers to wealth acquisition or social mobility. Except for the fact some have much more to fall back on, get a lot more help often undeserved. Your start in life matter way more than any of the things you mentioned.
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[04:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:27] <exec> 08└─One more reason not to do business with Apple. When will we learn.
[04:19:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:29] <exec> 08└─Southern China is pretty warm, means an expensive AC bill for the server rooms. Why not put the data center somewhere in the north where it's cooler?
[04:19:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:31] <exec> 08└─Just relocate Apple to China and don't come back.
[04:19:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:33] <exec> 08└─Guizhou has turned out to be one of the country's major electricity suppliers under the framework of the "west-to-east power transfer" project. [china.org.cn]
[04:19:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:45] <exec> 08└─Good luck avoiding AWS entirely.
[04:19:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 955 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:46] <exec> 08└─The problem is, for various reasons, there are very few if any decent alternatives to Amazon. For online shopping of physical products, sure there's Walmart, but most people consider it just as bad if not worse. Digital comic books and graphic novels? Amazon has a near stranglehold on it after it pu...
[04:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:48] <exec> 08└─Bagels
[04:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:50] <exec> 08└─The bagel bros.
[04:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:53] <exec> 08└─Six years ago I remember I had a completely worthless conversation about Amazon Web Services Elastic Compute Cloud. I was chatting with a blockhead who thought I was talking about buying books from the Amazon bookstore the entire time. I can see times do not change. Dude, bro, like, Amazon is a book...
[04:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:55] <exec> 08└─Well once Alicloud finishes whole-sale cloning of AWS, you can do just that.
[04:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:57] <exec> 08└─Definitely makes more sense than suicide trips to Mars... Allows us to buy more time...
[04:19:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:19:59] <exec> 08└─I've never ordered anything directly from Amazon -- years ago they started a pissing match with a small technical publisher I work with (long story) and I've been in personal boycott mode ever since then. But I will agree that Amazon are pervasive, last year I bought something from eBay and when it...
[04:20:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score: 2) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:20:27] <exec> 08└─The big problem with ReiserFS: Vendor lock-in.
[04:21:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:21:22] <exec> 08└─Yyyyyyup. I envy men that. It really, *really* rubs a lot of people the wrong way when a woman is anything but a compliant people-pleaser. Like, dangerously so in some cases. Inevitably all the "gender traitor"-caliber insults come out. "What are you, a fuckin' dyke?!" is apparently one of their fav...
[04:27:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 7918 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:41] <exec> 08└─"...and the rich stuff their money into mattresses where it gains them no additional income." "...and real estate has never been know to appreciate in value." Missing the point. If you're taxing it at a rate commensurate with income, it's effectively an income tax and we're back at square 1 - they d...
[04:27:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:43] <exec> 08└─That certainly does sound a lot like what Athanasius is proposing. And property taxes, by the way, tend to work out to be wickedly regressive. It doesn't look that way at first, and if you're only looking down Broadway, it wouldn't be - but it's not. They take effect out in rural areas, where the va...
[04:27:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:27:45] <exec> 08└─"God damn it, why don't we have a "-1, Fractally-Wrong" mod? That statement is wrong on every scale you examine it on. I realize you've said you're here to troll, but at some point good taste needs to win out over the urge for your daily dose of shitzngiggles." That's your idea of a memetic antidote...
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[05:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:25] <exec> 08└─One more reason to stop using smartphones. The next ones in which the the law of mathematics do not apply [newscientist.com] are UK and Australia. In US, this may be already the reality, even if not yet openly admitted.
[05:19:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:27] <exec> 08└─Just relocate Apple to China and don't come back.
[05:19:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 764 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:47] <exec> 08└─While the solar system could easily support 1T people; I don't think that level of population will be achieved any time soon. I have been watching The Expanse lately; cool show; and I think that the way the belters are treated in that show is depressingly likely to occur in the current societal mind...
[05:19:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fluffeh [954] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:48] <exec> 08└─This guy is a megalomaniac piece of trash. He treats his employees like slaves, he uses the Washington Post as his personal propaganda arm...
[05:19:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03idiot_king [6587] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 1252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:51] <exec> 08└─I've noticed a trend with multibillionaires and their obsession with having as many people as possible on Earth (or, in this case, the solar system). Why is this? Well, it can be answered with a simple axiom: Capitalists see other sentient beings as capital. So it only makes sense that the rich want...
[05:19:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 1343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:53] <exec> 08└─Perhaps you could make a list of people who have pushed the world forward, who WERE NOT nucking phutts. Name a famous (or infamous) person, and what do you have? A PERSON. People are complicated. All people have their strengths and weaknesses. And, strangely enough, sometimes it's the person's weakn...
[05:19:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 942 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:55] <exec> 08└─Get the books. The books (as usual) are better than the show. Some stuff in the series is simply not in the books. Stuff in the books didn't make it into the series. That is the normal when books and television meet, of course. That said, the TV series is about as awesome as awesome gets. The author...
[05:19:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:19:57] <exec> 08└─Coo Coo, Coo Coo
[05:19:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:20:00] <exec> 08└─I thought the conspiracy theorys were all about how billionaire new-world-order types wanted to curtail population?
[05:20:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:20:14] <exec> 08└─How about distributing the money collected in fines to the people who were called? $ 1.2 million each, tax free. That would be one hell of stimulus package! I know I'd be putting a lot of people to work to fix up my house.
[05:20:22] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03linuxrocks123 [2557] 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:20:22] <exec> 08└─ReiserFS and Reiser4 were definitely killer filesystems, really murdered the competition.
[05:21:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:21:04] <exec> 08└─Must. Spin. Boring. News. Oh oh! AI doing something new-ish, "END OF THE WOOORLD!"
[05:21:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:21:05] <exec> 08└─I saw a meme poster the other day that went kind of like this: Girlfriend: Why do you carry your gun in the house? Me: Because of Decepticons! She laughed, I laughed, the toaster laughed. I shot the toaster.
[05:21:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:21:28] <exec> 08└─You 'get castigated' by women, not men. And don't bother refuting, there is ample research to show that shaming is domain of women.
[05:23:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 105 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:23:52] <exec> 08└─It was designed solely for the people that make distros and do the packaging of software for the distros.
[05:24:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:21] <exec> 08└─Ya know, I think you pretty well nailed it. Along with Reziac's "it's that no two user experiences are alike!!" sums everything up very nicely.
[05:24:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06News Roundup - Digital Restrictions Management in HTML5 - 95 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:24:56] <exec> 08└─When the DRM's entire purpose is to -restrict- access, at least the word change is more honest.
[05:26:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Homeland Security Says Americans Who Don't Want Faces Scanned Leaving the Country "Shouldn't Travel" - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:26:01] <exec> 08└─Are there actually Americans that old? America has been about removing freedoms for a long time, though I guess if you are a member of the right class, this is new.
[05:27:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:49] <exec> 08└─I can read and I saw the spelling the first time. Given the rest of the post and the fact that "fractally wrong" doesn't make much sense in that context (or really any context) I assumed it was a misspelling.
[05:27:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:51] <exec> 08└─The hint is in the following sentence: "That statement is wrong on every scale you examine it on." Fractals have a self-similarity characteristic, where they are similar to themselves in appearance at widely varying scales.
[05:27:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Humans Want Equality – as Long as the Rich Stay Rich and the Poor Stay Poor - 559 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:27:53] <exec> 08└─Sheesh -- do I have to do all the thinking for everyone? No, I'm not proposing increasing property taxes or proposing anything else for that matter as I stated quite clearly at the end of my first post. I'm just noting that there's a significant chuck of the pie concentrated in the "rich," so even i...
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[05:27:55] <exec> 08└─The 22% number is substantially disputed. Not in terms of order of magnitude, but in terms of a substantial proportion. If I remember correctly, Piketty came up with that number, along with fellow researchers, but made some rather aggressive assumptions when doing so. Other numbers I've seen are bel...
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[06:19:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:20] <exec> 08└─It's the jumbo shrimp of iceberg.
[06:19:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 833 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:21] <exec> 08└─The MIDAS team is the one actually studying the iceberg/iceshelf. I don't see why these other researchers have no problem contradicting them: "They're looking at it through a microscope" rather than seeing macro trends, including the fact that oceans around Antarctica are warming, helping thin the i...
[06:19:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:23] <exec> 08└─So we are supposed to believe #FakeNews #CNN when they say to ignore the actual scientists who might know something in favor of some more global warming scaremongering from a columnist who focuses on "climate change and social justice." Satire is dead because reality is now too insane to poke fun at...
[06:19:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 682 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:25] <exec> 08└─When I am agreeing with jmorris that this particular event is dramatized misinformation. CNN's caliber of news hasn't been good for 10-15 years though, just like plenty of other news sources biased to either the right or left. If people weren't pandering for this, maybe more journalists could work o...
[06:19:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kell [292] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:19:38] <exec> 08└─Honestly, the general feeling in Oz is that the government is already snooping our data freely. I don't think anyone really expects otherwise anymore. Aussies are famously slow to take an interest in politics, and for most of the population this is just a politics thing. They don't see the risks of...
[06:20:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:06] <exec> 08└─I only disagree with Musk's projected population
[06:20:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:07] <exec> 08└─If the global or solar system economy grows, entertainment products may become more valuable since they can be instantly copied and beamed to theaters, VR headsets, whatever. More and more people exposed to a single piece of work. But then you might have more fragmentation canceling that effect out....
[06:20:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Absolutely.Geek [5328] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:10] <exec> 08└─I'll have to get the books. I'm usually a reader more then a watcher; but this series hadn't shown up on my radar until it hit TV.
[06:20:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 1272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:20:39] <exec> 08└─What doused some of my enthusiasm for btrfs was its slow performance at some operations. In particular, I read that it was very slow at sync operations, which Firefox does rather often. The developers worked on that problem, and greatly improved sync, but it still isn't near sync on ext4. I learned...
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[06:21:38] <exec> 08└─No one ever cares that I'm a crazy wacko.
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[13:30:01] <exec> 08└─This is just SJW virtue signaling. None of the countries affected by the travel ban are likely to contribute anything meaningful to IETF deliberations. With the exception of Iran, all of them are engaged in bloody civil wars involving islamic extremists - which is presumably why they are on the list...
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[13:30:02] <exec> 08└─announcements from foreign brands this year compared to previous years.
[13:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03pasky [1050] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:04] <exec> 08└─...nor could say Sweden contribute anything meaningful (curl author denied entry to US recently).
[13:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:06] <exec> 08└─Foreign brands with factories in China, right?
[13:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 300 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:09] <exec> 08└─Several colleagues (scientists working at a major UK physics lab) travelling to a recent conference had to give their phone passwords and facebook ids. Makes me actively try to avoid conferences in the US. I realise that this is not in detail the same reason given by IETF. But it is clearly related.
[13:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:11] <exec> 08└─Linky [twitter.com]. Bet it's related with haxx.se (the home of curl.haxx.se).
[13:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:13] <exec> 08└─> (curl author denied entry to US recently). He might not be an islamist himself but he is citizen of an islamist country and was traveling from it at the time.
[13:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:15] <exec> 08└─> had increased its vetting of individuals entering the country regardless of citizenship through searches of personal electronic devices and other means. I RTFAed and noticed this, so it is actually part of IETF reasoning
[13:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:17] <exec> 08└─No, they didn't. It was completely optional, and it was completely ok for them to leave it blank as having a Facebook ID is not a requirement for entry into the US.
[13:30:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:37] <exec> 08└─Australia has plenty of coal. Maybe they're going to build an enormous coal-fired supercomputer capable of cracking strong encryption in real time? Surely if they pass a law...
[13:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jb [338] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:38] <exec> 08└─If Mr Turnbull insists on repealing the laws of mathematics, I respectfully request that he begin by repealing De Morgan's Laws. With that done, it should be fairly straightfoward to "prove" in court that the computer which undertook the encryption couldn't possibly have worked in the first place.
[13:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:30:40] <exec> 08└─In other words, the end-to-end encryption apps (WhatsApp, Open Whisper, etc) will be banned into Australia, that's what you say?
[13:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:32] <exec> 08└─There is no "+1, Agree" mod, so I assume someone modded it informative because they agree with the message. By the way, I agree with it too. Just because the article has a clickbait title doesn't mean SN has to copy it as-is.
[13:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:31:33] <exec> 08└─Time for a new scare then. In my lifetime we've already had the Russians, a new ice age, acid rain, peak oil, global warming, climate change, isis, Trump, the Russians again and I probably forgot a few. I wonder what's next but I'm sure it will sell well.
[13:32:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:41] <exec> 08└─Ridding the world of robocalls entirely is tricky since some legitimate communications are made using automated call technology, such as messages from .... political organizations.
[13:32:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03noneof_theabove [6189] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:32:43] <exec> 08└─It could also open the door to phone companies that may want to offer a service to block unwanted calls.
[13:33:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:03] <exec> 08└─Reiser's wife was probably a Grade A Cunt. I'm not saying she deserved to be strangled to death, but… in the immortal words of Chris Rock: I understand.
[13:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:43] <exec> 08└─In what insane logic is a world where such unnecessary IoT communication compounded by indecipherable botlike exchanges between the already problematic IoT devices a "more perfect place"??
[13:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:44] <exec> 08└─No no stop stop stop no bad bad need continue no no no danger danger promise danger promise!
[13:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:46] <exec> 08└─I suspect that this "language" is more an expression of state transitions than a true language. The systems have simply figured out how to advance the other machine's state more efficiently than using English sentences. Give it enough time and it will likely devolve to binary.
[13:34:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 381 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:20] <exec> 08└─" Sounds like you need professional help coping with the 21st century. " Judging by the sheer number of people on brain pills or some sort of therapy, it seems most of the human race needs professional help coping with the 21st century. In my mind, tells me we have been progressing in the wrong dire...
[13:35:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:16] <exec> 08└─Being set in space / having time travel does not make a program sci-fi. This is mass-appeal fantasy bullshit at best.
[13:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Self-Fueling Boat Sets off From Paris on 6 Year World Trip - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:35:33] <exec> 08└─https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/can-solar-energy-power-a-catamaran.56382/ [boatdesign.net]
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[14:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:17] <exec> 08└─Customer: Dear tech support, my PC feels like it has a vibration and I can hear sort of a faint buzzing sound. Could it be my CPU fan or a fan on one of my used GPU cards? Tech Support: Have you tried rebooting? Customer: Yes, but that did not help. Tech Support: Have you tried reinstalling the OS?...
[14:30:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 300 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:28] <exec> 08└─Several colleagues (scientists working at a major UK physics lab) travelling to a recent conference had to give their phone passwords and facebook ids. Makes me actively try to avoid conferences in the US. I realise that this is not in detail the same reason given by IETF. But it is clearly related.
[14:30:34] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03turgid [4318] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 144 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:34] <exec> 08└─Anyone who uses the terms "SJW" or "Virtue Signalling" automatically disqualifies themselves from the discussion. Congratulations on using both.
[14:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:36] <exec> 08└─I find it vaguely amusing that the IETF was founded in the US. Now thanks to the US doing orwellian shit with people's credentials and accounts it's trying to move in-person meetups out entirely. Must be annoying for an internet standards body. Especially when this is just another fine example of ec...
[14:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:38] <exec> 08└─You've disqualified yourself, then.
[14:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:40] <exec> 08└─Assange only visited Sweden and he got all rapey.
[14:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:42] <exec> 08└─^found today's ignoramus^
[14:30:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 112 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:30:58] <exec> 08└─It seems obvious to me what What the government is proposing to do is to impose upon the companies an obligation
[14:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:05] <exec> 08└─We need an immigration ban on Transylvania!
[14:31:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:07] <exec> 08└─Australia is one of the five eyes, us never need to pass these laws if they ship all ur data through the magic wombat anus. Or some such.
[14:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:09] <exec> 08└─The subject line: The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics
[14:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06George A. Romero, ‘Night of the Living Dead’ Director, Dies at 77 - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:31:25] <exec> 08└─He is currently seeking funding for his next movie, which will begin filming soon after an army tanker crashes into the cemetery.
[14:32:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:05] <exec> 08└─How much is going to last this giga ice cube ?
[14:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:06] <exec> 08└─that was sort of exactly my point though. Which is why different people explain this iceberg differently.
[14:32:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:09] <exec> 08└─Isn't that evidence of insufficient logging?
[14:32:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:11] <exec> 08└─As everybody knows, an acre is the area of 1 chain by 1 furlong. 1 football-field = 1.322 acres 1 delaware = 1,205,000 football-fields 1 wales = 4 delawares
[14:32:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:27] <exec> 08└─Who cares if they belong to a party? That just means they are more likely to think about the issues and vote accordingly than just do what the party tells them. You said it yourself, they all have to vote anyway.
[14:32:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:32:28] <exec> 08└─What's google? Said 99.9% of Chinese people.
[14:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:23] <exec> 08└─Pretty much. T-Mobile has started to label certain things as likely scams, which helps, but realistically, this should have been addressed years ago. At this point, only businesses and great fools answer the phone if they don't recognize the number. This is itself probably a bit too little too late...
[14:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03pendorbound [2688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:44] <exec> 08└─My Reiser3 dataloss was related to hardware (some monkey knocked the power off a chain of drives) (Where's my banana???), but Reiser took what should have been a few tense hours of fsck'ing and turned it into complete array loss. Resier3's fsck is dangerously bad at what it's supposed to do. Since t...
[14:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:46] <exec> 08└─its integration with Linux stinks (thanks Sun and Oracle!)
[14:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:29] <exec> 08└─Sign now for free to get the best women handbags discounts.
[14:36:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:00] <exec> 08└─Oh, ok, so you are one of *those* people. Aren't you supposed to bitch about how it is "speculative fiction" anyway?
[14:37:20] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 466 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:20] <exec> 08└─"We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software community." And - who are Debian's users? Or, more to the point, who were Debian's users when the contract was written? Even today, the real rookies aren't drawn especially to Debian. The less experienced, less sophisticated users ar...
[14:37:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03KiloByte [375] 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 1300 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:47] <exec> 08└─I can't quite fathom why anyone would still keep PulseAudio as the default sound system. It's only upside left is that some environments have GUI configurators aimed towards PulseAudio only, but that's self-inflicted damage. It used to be the case that ALSA allowed "cheap" cards to be used by only o...
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[15:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:07] <exec> 08└─Perhaps I should start barfcoin - keep your GPU's and get in at the ground floor now!
[15:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 419 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:08] <exec> 08└─If you look at the last 3 months' prices, about half of the graph is the typical "oooh, new and shiny" exponential curve, and the second half of the curve is just a slow and steady (almost linear) decline, with nothing particularly standing out blip-wise. Sure, it dipped a few times, but it mostly r...
[15:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:10] <exec> 08└─"Earlier this week Ethereum's value dropped below $200, as soon as the currency experienced a new difficulty spike, making the currency 20% harder to mine" Possibly the explanation is wrong, but if not, Money is strange stuff. The value depends on folks depending on it. In this case, perhaps not so...
[15:30:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:13] <exec> 08└─Start "suggesting" articles be run at the relevant tech-news websites about the (actually very legitimate) concerns consumers should have over cards which were likely running close to maximum power draw for consecutive months, and the ratings on related components such as capacitors, etc.
[15:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:15] <exec> 08└─Crosswordium - Crossword puzzles, must be completed in blue ink. Stupidium - Sheets of paper with "I am stupid" written in long hand 100 times.
[15:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:36] <exec> 08└─So, by your logic, we should have banned all travel from Northern Ireland, and possibly Ireland and the UK, for most of the 20th century. In fact, arguably we should still be banning it now because groups like the Real IRA are still out there trying to kill people with the goal of making Northern Ir...
[15:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:37] <exec> 08└─He didn't because he didn't use the terms, but merely quoted them.
[15:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:30:39] <exec> 08└─Not just that, with that wording, as the US is currently involved in several civil wars with islamist extremists, you can ban all of the US to fly as well.
[15:31:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:04] <exec> 08└─Hmm, we have the noun trump meaning fart, and the adjective trumped-up meaning fraudulent, perhaps we should coin a verb in honour of the great man: Trump (v.t.) To turn into a farce. Trump (v.t.) To display extreme ignorance of something. ?
[15:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:06] <exec> 08└─Don't forget to look at the title text. It explains why you're wrong.
[15:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:08] <exec> 08└─Well, at least he hasn't tried to legislate the value of Pi like they did in Indiana.
[15:31:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Juno Captures Best Ever Images of Jupiter's Great Red Spot - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:15] <exec> 08└─These images are all artificially colourised and contrast-enhanced. Here's the original: https://d2xkkdgjnsfvb0.cloudfront.net via J/S-laden https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu
[15:31:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 31 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:41] <exec> 08└─When I am agreeing with jmorris
[15:31:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03J_Darnley [5679] 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 328 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:31:57] <exec> 08└─Why should it freak me out? It is unlikely to crash into my house. It will have to float all the way up the Atlantic then cross the two provinces of Belgium it is as large as and then half of another. Therefore I am not worried. If the worst does happen then at least it will crush Brussels first and...
[15:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:10] <exec> 08└─You still believe it. Are you an expert in this ice shelf who has been watching it since the 1980s? Why do you trust yourself more than someone who has been doing that who is telling you otherwise? It's insane how people just have this confidence that this is due to global warming. PS warming is sup...
[15:32:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:11] <exec> 08└─the Russians, a new ice age, acid rain, peak oil, global warming, climate change, isis, Trump, the Russians again
[15:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 992 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:13] <exec> 08└─Or we could just convert the largest 15 tanker ships to nuclear - http://www.industrytap.com [industrytap.com] Maybe if your first answer wasn't "change your lifestyle you pig" the other side would be more willing to...
[15:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:15] <exec> 08└─I actually never like these examples. They seem to say that flipping a coin is the only way to determine if it is biased. I'd say it is clearly one of the worst ways to try going about that. Instead you should measure the physical properties of the coin, balance it on its edge in a vibration/wind fr...
[15:32:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:18] <exec> 08└─I agree it is a clickbait title, but usually I just like to include the title of TFA rather than editorialize.
[15:32:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:20] <exec> 08└─Maybe if your first answer wasn't "change your lifestyle you pig" the other side would be more willing to work with you.
[15:32:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Whoever [4524] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:32:22] <exec> 08└─You probably don't vote, either, because your vote doesn't make enough of a difference.
[15:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:16] <exec> 08└─Fascinating, that you are so obsessed with Runaway. When you grow up, you want to be just like him, right? Or, is it more personal than that?
[15:33:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:36] <exec> 08└─The Federal Communications Commission wants to crack down on unwanted "robocalls"
[15:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:59] <exec> 08└─Reiser's wife was probably a Grade A Cunt. I'm not saying she deserved to be strangled to death, but… in the immortal words of Chris Rock: I understand.
[15:34:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 1486 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:26] <exec> 08└─1. Start with C++ - who the hell can understand the hellish meta-programming constructs involved in ellipsis expansion. What the hell "Variadic are funadic" [youtube.com] can even mean?... and this 5 years ago!! I tell yea, Alexandrescu is a terrorist! 2. Continue with the mathematicians. They are t...
[15:34:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Some call me Tim [5819] 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 207 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:35] <exec> 08└─I saw a meme poster the other day that went kind of like this: Girlfriend: Why do you carry your gun in the house? Me: Because of Decepticons! She laughed, I laughed, the toaster laughed. I shot the toaster.
[15:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:14] <exec> 08└─> the 21st century friendly reminder that this century gave you systemd.
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[16:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:08] <exec> 08└─"The numbers didn't lie. We did!" It's really very very simple: Computers, at least right now, answer to people. People lie all the time, and people screw up all the time. Why should we be surprised when the computers reflect people's lies and mistakes perfectly?
[16:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:09] <exec> 08└─About the same level of utility as a request. If you can fix all of the following problems, congrats, you're super human: *Garbage In Garbage Out, any algorithm fed shitty data is going to produce shit results. *Million and a half edge cases, no automata to recognize dogs is going to be like "Is tha...
[16:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:11] <exec> 08└─An algorithm is a mathematical description of a solution to a problem. It is, ultimately, a shortcut to something a human could do with great effort. However, one thing that gets ignored with the algorithm is verification. That's fine if the algorithm is correct, but how do you know that beforehand?...
[16:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:13] <exec> 08└─This is something that automated test evangelists get VERY WRONG. It is not possible, not even in theory, to cover all cases with automated tests. The combinatorial explosion of all the different existing states or inputs that could result in a given reached state means the number of test cases is i...
[16:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 792 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:16] <exec> 08└─If you tape a duck's bill shut, he can't quack. Use some of that duck tape on your algorithms!! Seriously though - algorithms can't lie. People frequently use the algorithms incorrectly, but that doesn't mean the algorithms are wrong, or lying, or anything of the sort. Fall back to high school geome...
[16:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:18] <exec> 08└─You can't. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[16:30:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:20] <exec> 08└─Also (who RTFAs around here?) apparently the article is actually about AI, which is NOT the same thing as algorithms. The summary is shit for equating the two. Even so, the answer is still the same: have a suite of automated tests (but with more variance and tolerance) that verify expected results i...
[16:30:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:23] <exec> 08└─I agree with your assertion that you can't cover all cases. But you're wrong about one very important thing: Automated testing is an adjunct to manual testing and other verification methods, not a replacement
[16:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:25] <exec> 08└─Algorithms can't lie, only people can lie. Of course algorithms can be incomplete or incorrect, or incorrectly applied. But the only way to claim that "an algorithm lied to me" is to anthropomorphize it.
[16:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:27] <exec> 08└─Until the AI learns to tell the difference between actual use and testing and lie selectively...
[16:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:30] <exec> 08└─my $x = 1; print "\$x = 2\n";
[16:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:43] <exec> 08└─Over the past few months, there has been a GPU shortage, forcing the prices of mid-range graphics cards up as cryptocurrency miners from across the world purchased hardware in bulk in search for quick and easy profits. This has forced the prices of most modern AMD and certain Nvidia GPUs to skyrocke...
[16:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:44] <exec> 08└─But but but I gotta pretend my latest cryptocurrency obsession is really important to the ~markets~, because I have no control over my life, I need to pretend the subculture I'm part of is really important to something, anything.
[16:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:46] <exec> 08└─Yes, yes! I am doing a thing - a modern progressive thing - by having my computer run hot whilst I'm not actively using it! Does someone have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
[16:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:30:49] <exec> 08└─Indeed - there are issues with the article. One reason I sniffed the prices was because I wasn't even sure that the order of the components in the correlation was even being represented accurately. And the downward slope that started 2 months ago seems to be the actual "trend", whilst this small dip...
[16:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:12] <exec> 08└─In general, though, fears of terrorism are thoroughly misplaced, because Americans are far more likely to be killed falling off a ladder than anything the terrorists have been able to do.
[16:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:14] <exec> 08└─Hey hey, stop trying to derail the angry train with your subtle points of logic! Rahhh angry Trumpkin rampage! I. Can. Not. Under. Stand. So. Must. Be. Wrong. Damned libruls ruin everything!
[16:31:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 1261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:16] <exec> 08└─Bzzzt, wrong. The first travel did affect educated, accomplished people with lives and careers in first world countries who just happen to have been born in (or have dual citizenship of) the banned nations. OK, the revised ban eased off on dual nationals, but the fact remains that this haphazardly-i...
[16:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:18] <exec> 08└─Ladder accidents aren't very high up on the causes of death in the US. They aren't zero, but it's not like thousands of people are falling off ladders to their death every year. Occupational risks that are far more significant than ladders include getting murdered (especially if you work as a conven...
[16:31:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 2138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:20] <exec> 08└─It would be easy to just mod you down, but dialogue is more useful than anonymous knee-jerks, so I will disagree verbally. What is it you dislike about the terms? - Is it that they are new? Without new terms, language cannot progress. - Is it that the fields/discourses/topics they're used in the con...
[16:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03BK [4868] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:48] <exec> 08└─They're not talking about breaking good crypto, they're talking about making it a crime to use good crypto or making it a crime to not filter internet connections to ban/prevent good crypto.
[16:31:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:31:50] <exec> 08└─Turnbull is an irrational number.
[16:32:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 1325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:32:59] <exec> 08└─Heh, you mistake the nature of my remark. I don't do this because of a lifestyle choice. It's a simple reality from medical problems. I'm apart entirely from greenpeace types and therefore could not possibly care less what someone does on an individual level for transport. But the fact has been made...
[16:33:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:00] <exec> 08└─why won't you fuck off?
[16:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:55] <exec> 08└─1000 Mozarts is not really better than one Mozart. You'll get bored with his sound, and if they all have to share the fame, celebrity status will be reduced. And with the growth of opportunity, it would be a mistake to think that the likes of Einstein do no exist today. What would prevent Einstein v...
[16:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:17] <exec> 08└─So POTS users or "dumb" cell phone users are still fucked?
[16:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:23] <exec> 08└─In what why is "the the the the the" short-hand for "five"?
[16:35:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI is Inventing Languages Humans Can't Understand. Should We Stop It? - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:24] <exec> 08└─Has produced total gibberish that we assume the other party is understanding but don't know with any certainty because we cannot say definitively what they are saying and this is a perfect world? Have I got that right? Facebook has been so great for society, I can only hope that trunk has a bad nigh...
[16:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:36:57] <exec> 08└─Wasn't there a female Doctor in that parody thing with Rowan Atkinson, too?
[16:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Self-Fueling Boat Sets off From Paris on 6 Year World Trip - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:37:15] <exec> 08└─but you know you can trust them if they are so trustworthy that they check to see if you're trying to protect your privacy! die dinosaur media die!
[16:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Debian vs. Ubuntu: What's the Difference? - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:38:58] <exec> 08└─the software is already years behind upstream as it is. if they used debian stable you would need an archaeologist to start your os for you...
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[17:30:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:03] <exec> 08└─Remind me. Why are we paying these people to "protect" us?
[17:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:04] <exec> 08└─We give drugs to pets, racehorses, and so on. Some of these drugs are simply toxic to humans. We shouldn't do that. The assumption should be that all vertebrate will end up in the food supply, as they ought to in order to prevent waste. This includes euthanasia, which can be done via non-toxic metho...
[17:30:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:07] <exec> 08└─Where is my vat grown beef protein in which no cow was murdered but still tastes like a steak? It's been 10 years out since the 80's
[17:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:09] <exec> 08└─It's a much better idea to let consumers be responsible for what they choose to put in their own bodies. The key is to help consumers make informed decisions—that's why there is a regulatory agency; to provide consumers with certain guarantees. The problem, as always, is that this regulatory agenc...
[17:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:11] <exec> 08└─2015: The $325,000 Lab-Grown Hamburger Now Costs Less Than $12 [fastcompany.com] Lab-Grown Meat May Save a Lot More than Farm Animals' Lives [nbcnews.com] Lab-Grown Pork Closer to Reality [soylentnews.org] Lab-Grown Chicken (and Duck) Could be on the Menu in 4 Years [soylentnews.org] This could also...
[17:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:30] <exec> 08└─Which is should computer scientist and math people be allowed out of there parents basement without supervision from people with social skills and empathy. Or should we allow AI to write lying algorithms while communicating in their own private gibberish The floor is open, choose your words wisely t...
[17:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:32] <exec> 08└─Some of the first words in the article are: "and sometimes they are designed to deceive" "Lots of algorithms go bad unintentionally. Some of them, however, are made to be criminal." It's clear that nobody wanted to read the article or even the summary, instead preferring to take a dump on the headli...
[17:30:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 832 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:34] <exec> 08└─This isn't inherently true, though it sure often it. But one can train a neural net to achieve a goal, and not notice that lying is a part of how it achieves the goal. In that case it would be the program that was lying, not the implementer...though the implementer would certainly be rightfully said...
[17:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:36] <exec> 08└─Once AI get smart, everyone will be surveilled to ensure they are not creating or connecting AI to the Internet. If you create one, the feds will send SWAT or SEAL Team Six to your location. Your only hope will be to train your AI to lie and act like a dumb 2017 SiriAlexa.
[17:30:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:38] <exec> 08└─I just want to chime in here, you are presuming the existence of a true AI and then you presume the AI would have some motivation to lie about software testing. These observations point to only one obvious conclusion: you are an idiot.
[17:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 767 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:41] <exec> 08└─Wherever you can automate, you should, as that reduces the amount of human effort - humans, good ones (see later), are an expensive resource. One thing I liked about the previous job I had was that the manual testing regimen included 30 minutes of "free testing" (a test was typically blocked to take...
[17:30:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:43] <exec> 08└─Just don't let VW train the AI. :-)
[17:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:45] <exec> 08└─If there is a logic error in the design of an algorithm, its execution will produce an "unwitting" lie. And if their purpose is to lie, or to sometimes lie, they will. Arguably, we are also algorithms, and under some circumstances we do lie. It is a requirement for an algorithm to lie if its purpose...
[17:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 582 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:47] <exec> 08└─You are making assumptions about its goal structure. It shouldn't *want* to tell the difference. If an AI lies, it's because it has been trained to lie, probably via the specifications. This isn't the same as being biased which is impossible to remove, but only to minimize...and then only if you rea...
[17:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:49] <exec> 08└─No I said supervised by people with social skills and empathy, not people using expert systems to conduct surveillance on you an employing violent sociopaths, that is exactly the thing that the supervision is intended to prevent. But you make my point well
[17:30:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:52] <exec> 08└─That algorithm doesn't lie. It is not its fault that you interpret the string it dutifully outputs as saying that one equals two. It didn't intend to lead you to that interpretation. It has no concept of humans interpreting its output. And it has no intentions whatsoever.
[17:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 1022 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:54] <exec> 08└─There seems to be a proliferation of these kinds of fear-mongering articles about "algorithms" lately. I understand where they come from - there are faceless corporations who make decisions algorithmically, and you have no way to appeal those decisions, and they're everywhere and mandatory. But, the...
[17:30:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:56] <exec> 08└─I think you intended to say that it is a requirement for an AI to be able , be able to lie to pass the Turing test which it .. isn't that I assume that's what you meant rather than lying.
[17:30:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:30:59] <exec> 08└─There is no such thing as an unwitting lie. A lie is by its very definition intentional.
[17:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:01] <exec> 08└─You can stab the bank rep in the eye.. with a fork, can't do that with an algorithm
[17:31:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03arcz [4501] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:18] <exec> 08└─I was right.
[17:31:32] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 222 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:33] <exec> 08└─> had increased its vetting of individuals entering the country regardless of citizenship through searches of personal electronic devices and other means. I RTFAed and noticed this, so it is actually part of IETF reasoning
[17:31:45] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 1261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:45] <exec> 08└─Bzzzt, wrong. The first travel did affect educated, accomplished people with lives and careers in first world countries who just happen to have been born in (or have dual citizenship of) the banned nations. OK, the revised ban eased off on dual nationals, but the fact remains that this haphazardly-i...
[17:31:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FatPhil [863] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 2138 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:47] <exec> 08└─It would be easy to just mod you down, but dialogue is more useful than anonymous knee-jerks, so I will disagree verbally. What is it you dislike about the terms? - Is it that they are new? Without new terms, language cannot progress. - Is it that the fields/discourses/topics they're used in the con...
[17:31:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:49] <exec> 08└─TL;DR. You, sir, are an Alt-Wrong and you are stupid signalling.
[17:31:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:51] <exec> 08└─You're just a racist nazi. See how it works?
[17:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:53] <exec> 08└─This is just SJW virtue signaling. None of the countries affected by the travel ban are likely to contribute anything meaningful to IETF deliberations.
[17:31:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:56] <exec> 08└─Stop with your stupid, please. America lost control of the internet a long time ago. Your corporate masters outsourced it all a long time ago. It's not about Trump, it's about keeping the people that took over for the USA involved with the processes the USA is no longer involved in. Traditionally it...
[17:31:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 1, Troll) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:31:58] <exec> 08└─Ladies and gentlemen, here we have yet more stupid signalling from the Alt-Wrong.
[17:31:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 1182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:00] <exec> 08└─SJW means that the writer is inconvenienced with the argument of the person, and has little counter argument to offer because it would make them look bad. Rather than promote a counterpoint, it is easier to call them a name, as if that solves any perceived issues. Remember, someone fighting for soci...
[17:32:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:02] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I'm sick and tired of trying to point that out myself so I just give them a taste of their own medicine nowadays, as it were.
[17:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:32:04] <exec> 08└─We don't have much potential for exponentially increasing ladder accidents. Terrorism does have that potential, since most of it comes from a small but rapidly growing segment of the population. Ladder accidents normally affect only the person who is most responsible. When others are affected, they...
[17:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:42] <exec> 08└─You will on occasion find yourself agreeing with jmorris and other frightening people. Deal with it.
[17:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:44] <exec> 08└─I understand the "don't change my lifestyle" up to a point, but there are things that should change. We need to move away from the disposable culture, we are generating too much trash. We don't need to stop personal transportation, we just need to transition to more sustainable methods such as mass...
[17:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:46] <exec> 08└─If it were just debating how big a deal the issue is, I would be OK with it. However, the people denying climate change are neither "bickering about how minute it is" nor are their motivations to pull people out of poverty. It seems to me that they are outright denying that there is a problem, and d...
[17:35:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06ZFS Is the Best Filesystem (For Now…) - 1044 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:25] <exec> 08└─I agree that ECC RAM *should* be on a server, or a device that does a lot of services intended for be accessed by clients. It used to be all of my computers had parity memory -- then non-parity came out and it wasn't just cheaper... but the parity ram costs went up while the new ram costs were less...
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[17:36:35] <exec> 08└─yes... I really have a hard time believing VLM was surprised by this that there is medical research on the condition. Does VLM actually just think they're retards or something and need to be placed in a home that should have its funding cut since these are just drains on society? It'd save on vaccin...
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[17:36:36] <exec> 08└─I think you swung the pendelum too far, but you filled in the right blanks. Anyone with problems communicating have problems in our society. But attractive women often get a free pass--justified or not. And plenty of men will be happy to abuse such a situation if they can control it.
[17:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:47] <exec> 08└─Here's hoping they give her better episodes/scripts than they gave Capaldi: i kind of trailed off in watching after the whole monster of the day was.... ...wait for it.... .....the sleep crud in the corner of the eye!
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[18:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:21] <exec> 08└─Right where's my beef? seems like a money problem at this point why no VC's for food? right that might help people, rather than AI which leads to lots of military contracts
[18:30:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:22] <exec> 08└─Maybe it was a bit slow, but they did detect it and arrested a bunch of people presumably responsible.
[18:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:24] <exec> 08└─It's in the works, but at this point it's still another reminder that when it comes to chemistry/biochemistry synthesis Mom Nature has us silly humans completely outclassed. We're just using nature's existing machinery and not doing that great a job of it.
[18:30:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 1781 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:27] <exec> 08└─https://www.wired.com/2016/10/nerds-cattle-food-technology-will-save-world/ [wired.com] http://cbey.yale.edu [yale.edu] http://www.npr.org [npr.org] https://www.washingtonpost.com
[18:30:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:29] <exec> 08└─Are we outclassed? Millions of Functional Human Cells Can be Created in Days With OPTi-OX [soylentnews.org] You could interpret that as just another application of existing Mother Nature processes but it looks like we can do some natural things at an unnatural pace. I'll also be interested to see if...
[18:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:31] <exec> 08└─Because if you didn't, these people would still be selling that crap with no regulatory organs to discover the deception.
[18:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:33] <exec> 08└─But still no beef! I suspect that is no accident impeding something that could solve a lot of hunger because patents, or maybe just maybe it isn't as real as the hype
[18:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:36] <exec> 08└─Nature had billions of years to figure it out. We got here in a few thousand.
[18:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:38] <exec> 08└─Let us have a system of voluntarily agreed contracts with worker-owned coops! Let the market decide whether food should be halal! Let us eschew violently imposed monopoly! 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐓 🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚
[18:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:40] <exec> 08└─Soylent is no fun if it's not made of real living breathing thinking humans that are scoped up off the street, tell me how could vampire and proto cannibal peter teil feel good about that?
[18:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:42] <exec> 08└─I spent the summer of 1993 at CERN. Someone warned me to carefully examine restaurant menus to determine whether one is ordering horse meat.
[18:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:44] <exec> 08└─Logic and reason don't work on people like OP, it only solidifies their opinion that all other people are idiots who can't see that government is the cause of all our problems.
[18:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:47] <exec> 08└─I've been told that horse meat is very tasty but if you where at CERN it was probably the quantum black holes that spin off from the accelerator that are the real danger
[18:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:49] <exec> 08└─You cannot say that there would be "no regulatory organ to discover the deception"; that doesn't follow logically. That is to say: There's no proof that government is necessary or even optimal for providing such a service.
[18:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:51] <exec> 08└─Yes we are only 6000 years old, but a more important question is how do you score more with this silly comment than my posts and this is my thread?
[18:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:30:54] <exec> 08└─Your parent's reply fails logic and reason, as pointed out here [soylentnews.org].
[18:31:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:28] <exec> 08└─Empathy is no protection against vile and reprehensible actions if you are selective in who you empathize with. Witness antifa. Witness violent, hate-filled, third-wave feminists. Witness every SJW ever. All claim empathy as the reason for their vile actions.
[18:31:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:30] <exec> 08└─You can if it's code controlling a robot.
[18:31:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:32] <exec> 08└─I think you have failed to understand empathy, also one can have empathy with people and still resist them when they attack you, this should be obvious but you I have noticed have a problem with empathy
[18:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:34] <exec> 08└─Now explain that to idiots who write articles like this one, PHBs, and CxOs.
[18:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah, if only everyone could be a disingenuous selfish prick like you!!! The world would be perfect as everyone operates on a series of contracts that magically fix everything. "No no guys, I'm OK because I admit to being an asshole!" You cons are such scared little pussies buying into so much propa...
[18:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:39] <exec> 08└─Neither as effective nor as dramatic and useful, but sure once authority is totally protected from harm I am certain everything will be just fine.. Just fine.. https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:31:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:41] <exec> 08└─You're just jealous because you have no prick, and can't get pricked. You lie awake at night, dreaming of prick, and no one will share theirs with you.
[18:31:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:43] <exec> 08└─It doesn't help that the headline said something nearly everyone with a passing familiarity of the actualities involved would have a snap reflex to, like touching a hot stove.
[18:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 1261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:46] <exec> 08└─QA needs to be a separate entity from development, not on a lower level, just a separate level. You are implying that QA won't know how the system is supposed to work because it is changing--the automated tests will bear most of that burden. This really takes QA out of the software lifecycle loop. T...
[18:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:48] <exec> 08└─So your saying that like Turing he feels oppressed and excluded by arbitrary criteria defined by people that wielded power with no regard for the harm they cause?
[18:31:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:50] <exec> 08└─Protests are far more effective than lawsuits.
[18:31:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 1236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:52] <exec> 08└─Normally you would isolate the learning data from the testing data, and only an isolated copy of the AI will be used on the test data and them terminated. The AI will have never experienced the test data before. There are two situations where this breaks down: Improper isolation. Some organizations,...
[18:31:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:31:54] <exec> 08└─Oh it burrrrrns! I like how the level of insults matches the level of intelligence.
[18:32:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:12] <exec> 08└─I'm way ahead of you: I make other computers than mine run hot! I'm important, according to lawyers and the news. Though the guys who make other computers self-encrypt are more important, according to lawyers and the news. I need to check that out.
[18:32:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:14] <exec> 08└─Customer: Why would Solid State Disks have bearings? Tech Support: The bearings are to keep the bits on the SATA bus until they reach the correct stop.
[18:32:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:53] <exec> 08└─Compared to the population norms, terrorists are unusually likely to be engineers and engineers are unusually likely to be terrorists. I doubt we can say for sure why. The obvious guess is that it has something to do with a rigid belief in the "right way". Maybe it is just that engineers can get shi...
[18:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:54] <exec> 08└─Yup, patience and tolerance have been worn out where shitty conservatives are concerned. Apparently they just shut their mouths for quite a few years when being a bigot was out of fashion, but Trump has brought it back into popularity. I will say that is one silver lining to this mess, getting to se...
[18:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 1293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:56] <exec> 08└─Social justice is about victimhood ranking and privilege checks. It goes vaguely like this: You can get a point for being non-white, a point for being a woman, a point for being gay, 5 points for being trans, 5 points for being disabled, 5 points for being an illegal alien, and 10 points for being m...
[18:32:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:32:58] <exec> 08└─Citation needed in the USA, engineers are far more conservative and creationist than scientists are Citation needed -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[18:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Juno Captures Best Ever Images of Jupiter's Great Red Spot - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:35] <exec> 08└─Not just slow old geezers: NASA's public outreach learns from Instagram filters and FB selective publishing...
[18:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06George A. Romero, ‘Night of the Living Dead’ Director, Dies at 77 - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:47] <exec> 08└─If ever i wanted to dig up a disgusting AC, rub his face in zombie puke, and then have to knock his head off with a cricket bat, this is that time. This is why we cannot have white supremacy! No culture! Not even kitsch culture! White people lack, wait for it, . . . brains!
[18:34:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:44] <exec> 08└─You are lacking in science education, it appears you have an 8th grade level of understanding.
[18:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Doctor Who's 13th Time Lord to be a Woman - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:46] <exec> 08└─It is amusing seeing special little snowflakes being triggered so easily.
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[19:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:16] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of free toilets in the church restroom down the street from the shantytown. We don't have a crowding problem at all. We know how to share our limited resources. I volunteer for mopping and trash removal when my back pain isn't acting up. Why is there overcrowding in your rich people's...
[19:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:17] <exec> 08└─"Though the men entered the bathrooms for an average of 15 seconds, every single one assured the cute young researcher that they had washed their hands to a full froth of soap for at least a full minute before exiting and cleaned up after their messes."
[19:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:19] <exec> 08└─It sounds like the best solution from a queuing theory standpoint would be to have two separate "unisex" restrooms, one for urinals and one for stalls. Although, I doubt many women or men would prefer that arrangement for obvious reasons.
[19:30:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:21] <exec> 08└─Let's test your hypothesis by clogging every toilet in the mens room. I can start the experiment since I just ate Thai food with copious amounts of hot sauce. Ready to evacuate bowels.
[19:30:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:24] <exec> 08└─We have roughly an equal number of men, and women. Women take longer to go to the bathroom both because they are physically different, require physically larger facilities(probably don't want to use a urinal) in a similar amount of space, and dare I say it: probably check makeup and other stuff.
[19:30:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:53] <exec> 08└─There may well be "worker-owned coops" under such voluntarily contracts, but there may also not be. Anyway, continue on with your trolling of libertarians.
[19:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:54] <exec> 08└─Maybe there is a libertarian approach to cannibal-vampirism. Invite the poor to voluntarily board a seastead libertarian utopia, eat them alive and pay their families some blood money. But your family will be paid based on the median or poverty line income in your country, so less money to Indians,...
[19:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:30:56] <exec> 08└─Hey I'm not the one that said we had only been around for a few thousand years and as for score are there no up votes does karma not exist?
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[19:30:59] <exec> 08└─What's wrong with horse meat? Only the US has this taboo; the rest of countries eat horses rarely only because they're harder to farm in enclosed stalls or on a tiny pasture, thus unfit for industrial mass farming. Disposing of sick and old horses not fit for consumption is another matter, but that'...
[19:31:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:01] <exec> 08└─You've been watching the strain haven't you?
[19:31:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:03] <exec> 08└─You cannot say that there would be "no regulatory organ to discover the deception"; that doesn't follow logically.
[19:31:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:05] <exec> 08└─I think I only saw S01E01 but there was probably some similar stuff in True Blood. Maybe I'll get back into it; I like del Toro. And you don't have to look to fiction to guess this could happen. There's gotta be some rich libertarians out there harvesting transplantable organs to keep themselves ali...
[19:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:08] <exec> 08└─Human civilization has been around for a few thousand years (roughly speaking, about 7500). Even if you take "we" to mean "the genius itself", we've only been around for tens of thousands.
[19:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:10] <exec> 08└─7500 years sounds like several to me not few I had to assume you where a young earth creationist
[19:31:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:12] <exec> 08└─The only on-topic part of this post is the headline used. That "where's the beef" commercial led to fast food joints forgetting why sandwiches were invented in the first place! It's so you can eat without utensils or getting your hands nasty, now nobody sells a sandwich that you don't need a shower...
[19:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:14] <exec> 08└─It's what has made modern society so remarkably successful, despite the parasite that is government.
[19:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:17] <exec> 08└─Sorry perhaps you missed my reference to Peter Thiel that is a known vampire http://www.vanityfair.com [vanityfair.com] so it's not a long jump to long pig
[19:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:19] <exec> 08└─The dog was the first domesticant,[10][11] and was established across Eurasia before the end of the Late Pleistocene era, well before cultivation and before the domestication [wikipedia.org] of other animals. The beginning of the stage is defined by the base of the Eemian interglacial phase before t...
[19:31:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:21] <exec> 08└─This!!! three breasted whores should not be confined to eriticon 7!!
[19:31:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:23] <exec> 08└─Naw, I know about it. It's one of aristarchus's favorite memes after all. I don't really think much of it. If you can culture meat, you can probably reproduce whatever junk in blood that might be causing the effect, which is not that well studied. Thiel is better off chucking some more money at Aubr...
[19:31:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:26] <exec> 08└─I take the emergence of civilization as our starting point, since synthetic biochemistry has more to do with our intellectual abilities than with our ability to modify animal behavior.
[19:31:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 1901 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:31:28] <exec> 08└─That notwithstanding, I'd say we're completely outclassed. I must admit that I'm not fully up on neurogenesis development timelines, but this sped things up in vitro. Though functional, the cells haven't been integrated into working tissues, which I'm guessing would be one of the slow factors in nat...
[19:32:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:15] <exec> 08└─A smart tester is worth at least two dumb testers.
[19:32:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:17] <exec> 08└─What about forks, do forks work?
[19:32:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:19] <exec> 08└─then the net can (will probably) learn to lie in order to meet that goal.
[19:32:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:21] <exec> 08└─Only if you merge them back into the trunk.
[19:32:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:23] <exec> 08└─You get what you pay for. NASA has learned techniques to make software as reliable as possible, because if they fail, people die on the front page of the news. However, the techniques are slow and very labor-intensive. It would certainly jack up the price of consumer products, perhaps beyond what th...
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[19:32:43] <exec> 08└─I can't dig for the article now, but I seem to recall that there were two key events that would directly change the economic model of mining Ethereum. The reward of mining ETH was cut from something like 5 ETH to 2 ETH.The reward model changed from Proof-of-Work to Proof-of-Stake, which incidentally...
[19:32:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:32:44] <exec> 08└─I'm actually in the market for a new card, and am willing to roll the dice on a used card. Does anyone have some advice what model would be popular with the miners and I should scour ebay for now?
[19:33:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Lagg [105] 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 656 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:03] <exec> 08└─I find it vaguely amusing that the IETF was founded in the US. Now thanks to the US doing orwellian shit with people's credentials and accounts it's trying to move in-person meetups out entirely. Must be annoying for an internet standards body. Especially when this is just another fine example of ec...
[19:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:27] <exec> 08└─There is no one in the US that really would defend our rights Just a note here: bradley13 is a USAian expatriate who has lived in Switzerland for some time. His sniping comes from quite a distance. -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[19:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:29] <exec> 08└─This is just SJW virtue signaling. None of the countries affected by the travel ban are likely to contribute anything meaningful to IETF deliberations.
[19:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:31] <exec> 08└─> [use of "SJW"] means that writer is inconvenienced with the argument of the person, and has little counter argument to offer But the bradley post *did* have a counter-argument - that was the paragraph that followed the line that sent turgid into a tizz. You realise that you've just argued against...
[19:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 1094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:33] <exec> 08└─WRT the deposit to the venue, I saw another article that I was going to submit under /dev/random and now realize is related to this topic. Hotel Refuses Refund for Woman's Canceled Wedding; She Invites Homeless to Dinner There [alternet.org] An Indiana bride-to-be, who canceled her wedding reception...
[19:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:18] <exec> 08└─You think it is normal to turn off your brain in the face of anything you find unusual and turn to a "checklist" to tell you what to do?
[19:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:20] <exec> 08└─Not instead. In addition. If you measure the physical properties of the coin, you can say that it is not entirely symmetric, but you will not convince those who deny that the asymmetry actually leads to a bias in heads vs. tails. After all, coin tossing is a complex process, and lots of things like...
[19:35:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:22] <exec> 08└─Wait a sec, . . . OK, checked the list: I agree with both jmorris and khallow on this one. Highly unusual.
[19:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:40] <exec> 08└─Relocate what from where? Their manufacturing? already in China. Their legal home in Ireland (/netherland/). Their billions stashed all over the world. Their customer virtual pens wherever electricity is cheap...
[19:36:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 630 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:19] <exec> 08└─I think people probably start to look at things in terms of species wide goals once they reach the point of having reached the point of nearly maximized personal achievement. So what would you see as a goal you could contribute to for our species? I think the thing we're seeing ever more people latc...
[19:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Jeff Bezos' Vision for Space: One Trillion Population in the Solar System - 1056 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:20] <exec> 08└─As technology progresses the outliers required to push things forward start requiring great and greater personal achievement. Elon Musk is certainly a name that will go down in the history books. But look at what his emergence required: - somebody with at least hundreds of millions of dollars ...
[19:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:43] <exec> 08└─I don't answer any number that doesn't have a name attached. If you're not in my address book and it's important, leave a voice mail. So I never get phone scams, polls, or sales pitches. Occasionally a robot will accidentally leave a blank voicemail that I simply delete. Try it, it works.
[19:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:45] <exec> 08└─"Wanted" robocalls? That's like saying it's okay to throw wanted trash in your yard! NOBODY wants to talk to a robot!
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[20:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:08] <exec> 08└─Tech companies can stop serving Australians until their government cooperates. Which chicken will swerve first? Public demand for social media? Or robber baron demand for advertising impressions?
[20:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:09] <exec> 08└─Turnbull seems like he spends a lot to time turning bulls in a sling up his ass, a completely dishonest shitbag that has no validity as a human being
[20:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 474 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:11] <exec> 08└─oh my... Anyway, some people like birds. Other people like stars or trains. I like terrorists. I'm a terrorist watcher. Roger the terrorist watcher. Pleased to meet you. Has anybody spotted this rare encrypting terrorist? It seems the encrypting terrorist is a very rare specimen, indeed. Has anybody...
[20:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:13] <exec> 08└─Roger? have you considered rogering the bull? that turn could give you great benifit
[20:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:16] <exec> 08└─They post URLs of the kiddieporn. I don't think Pastebin ever deletes them. If you search for a kiddieporn keyword at bing, it will suggest several more-specific keywords. Google doesn't do that.
[20:30:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:27] <exec> 08└─Over-regulation is a big part of the problem. Without the burden of laws and regulations, people could plumb restrooms however they pleased. There wouldn't be a government-enforced monopoly on water and sewer "services" (Mafia2O). People could use whichever restroom the owners allowed them in. Some...
[20:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 408 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:29] <exec> 08└─I don't buy the 60s vs 90s. Someone's limiting their sample to #1. But more importantly: Outside of places which sell lots of cheap beer, women go to the bathroom on average more often than men (Do we all know our biology?). So, if you have an equal crowd and an equal number of toilets, the women's...
[20:30:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:31] <exec> 08└─For the funding. In a world where folks are living in shantytowns downstreet from a church [soylentnews.org] and there's a shortage of jobs [soylentnews.org], unethical researchers get creative about scamming their funding.
[20:30:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:33] <exec> 08└─You forgot to mention, the disabled can just shit in their own wheelchairs, because we ain't gonna build doors and stalls to accommodate them.
[20:30:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 981 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:36] <exec> 08└─As noted in the summary, women wait longer than men because they prefer to do so. Specifically, they aren't willing to sacrifice privacy for speed. There have been past studies to see if women would be willing to use urinals-equivalents, and they found that women as a whole were not willing to. So i...
[20:30:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:38] <exec> 08└─Owners can build snowflake zones if they want to. Wheelchairs can have a hole. Freedom!
[20:30:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:40] <exec> 08└─women go to the bathroom on average more often than men (Do we all know our biology?)
[20:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:42] <exec> 08└─My office is upstairs of a public library. We can smell how clean your shantytowns leave the restroom four floors up.
[20:30:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:45] <exec> 08└─No kidding. Women don't have as strong bladder control, max volume, whatever, as men. Therefore they go more often. Mean number of visits to bathroom per hour for men vs. women is something that is easily and objectively measurable, but anything that makes it appear that it is not the fault of the p...
[20:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:30:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I applied for a job at the library. Know what they said? "You don't want this job." Not, why do you want this job, or why should we hire you for this job. Nope. "You don't want this job." I checked back later, turns out the minority woman in charge hired a minority woman for the job. Surprise....
[20:31:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:34] <exec> 08└─Goes to my larger point about VC's but the question still stands, despite seemingly promising results and seemingly understood biology Where is my vat steak? Your dog wants vat steak but can't have it because ??
[20:31:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:35] <exec> 08└─CNN's headline: Europe horse meat scam: At least 66 people arrested SoylentNews headline: Where's the Beef?
[20:31:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 1010 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:37] <exec> 08└─It is an admittedly immature technology, and it also needs to scale up to compete with established cattle/livestock production. The processes may eventually produce higher quality meat than is possible by using livestock (you may be able to create marbled [wikipedia.org] "cuts" or weird "cuts" that...
[20:31:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 1111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:39] <exec> 08└─So you judge by booze since that was almost certainly our first venture into chemistry, and as has been pointed out we at more than 250k years old as a species possibly far older, so what where we doing for the several hundred thousand years before RECORDED civilization ? a lot has been lost and our...
[20:31:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:42] <exec> 08└─True Capitalism gets you meat that food experts would call improper for consumption, but is offered to you at whatever price people believe will make you grab it off the shelves. You are responsible for paying your doctor's bill, then running your own studies to prove the meat did it, then decide to...
[20:31:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:44] <exec> 08└─> Let there be competing regulatory agencies, just like there are competing "kosher" certification agencies. Sooo ... How do you suppose they're going to keep costs down, so they can undercut the competition and grow?
[20:31:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:46] <exec> 08└─Horsemeat is a taboo in most English speaking countries since the British upper-class and wealthy white Americans join equestrian clubs and volunteer at "Save Seabiscuit From Evil Butchers" type charities for ivy-league applications.
[20:31:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:48] <exec> 08└─Equestrian clubs being code for Knights and armies, you can't ride into battle on a cow or even bull we like the animals that like us
[20:31:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:50] <exec> 08└─So your saying hamburgers are easy? well That'll do pig that'll do Where's my beef?
[20:31:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:53] <exec> 08└─Soylent has no beef (or horse) it's all people.
[20:31:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:55] <exec> 08└─I'll be all over this. I'm an omnivore but would happily switch to lab meat as soon as it's available and at a decent price point. Since the meat I eat is almost all turkey mince anyway, it doesn't need to be cultured to have a steak/filet texture. This *should* in theory lead to low cost mince and...
[20:31:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:57] <exec> 08└─So can I know who these 66 soylents are so I can know who I'm eating?
[20:31:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:31:59] <exec> 08└─I was told to ask for one at the safety office, but I decided instead to just not walk into a motherfucking particle beam.
[20:32:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:52] <exec> 08└─See, right there you think you're empathizing with me but in reality you're failing miserably. You see what you want to see instead of what is.
[20:32:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:54] <exec> 08└─then if I fork it, will I have twice as much money?
[20:32:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:32:56] <exec> 08└─4/10 Concise, quick, attacked on multiple fronts, and got a reply. Minus three points for lack of style, subtlety, and failure to get a reply to anything you actually said. Minus a further three mastery points that would have been awarded for expertly integrating combinations of the previous.
[20:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:19] <exec> 08└─Well, how do you get people to massively participate in a hash breaking initiative? Well, you need to do two things: First, hide your true intentions. Second, pay people for doing it. However that second part is problematic: It costs a lot of money. But hey, you don't need to pay them in dollars. Pa...
[20:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:20] <exec> 08└─It could always be the belt on the SSD's motor.
[20:34:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:06] <exec> 08└─This is just xenophobic bigot virtue signaling.
[20:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:08] <exec> 08└─The comment by bradley13 is simply bigotry. He claims that one can determine an individual's technical utility by nationality/location. One might also claim that everyone in the USA approves of The Orange Clown. Both of those notions are ignorant, narrow-minded, and prejudiced. -- OriginalOwner_ [so...
[20:35:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:57] <exec> 08└─Yes, measure the physical properties of the coin and use these to predict the coin should come up heads x% of the time. Then when you test the coin by flipping it should be close to this value you have predicted (rather than the NHST approach of checking "50% heads").
[20:38:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Females With Autism Show Greater Difficulty With Day-to-Day Tasks Than Male Counterparts - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:53] <exec> 08└─Broads compensate for being dumb with exceptionally good social skills. Without social skills, broads are just dumb ugly slightly evolved apes with bigger tits.
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[21:30:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 458 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:04] <exec> 08└─The Australian government is effectively mandating that tech giants must design insecure systems. It is either secure. Or it is not. (aka, insecure) If it is secure, then the government nor the tech giant company can't read your private messages. If the government, or the tech giant can read your pr...
[21:30:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:05] <exec> 08└─This is what the sharing of intelligence info was really all about. Can't get your fascist policies passed in your home country? Try it out on a more pliable population, then seed the net with misinformation until your local citizenry no longer opposes you. Sure it takes longer, but it has almost ze...
[21:30:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:08] <exec> 08└─Good news, here comes the startup governmentstoogesocialnetwork.com to eat all those delicious users who suddenly can't access facebook or google. The bigger problem is the centralization of the internet around a few shitty social networks, but we can blame users for that.
[21:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:10] <exec> 08└─Tech companies can stop serving Australians until their government cooperates...
[21:30:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Spam) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 6291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:12] <exec> 08└─. For a long moment, she simply looked at his cock and balls in admiration. Her face was close to him. Just as he could feel her warm breath on his cockmeat, he knew she could feel the heat of his pounding prick waft into her radiant face. Her blonde head tilted from side to side as she stu...
[21:30:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:14] <exec> 08└─The bigger problem is the centralization of the internet around a few shitty social networks, but we can blame asymmetric upload/download speeds, abusive ToS from ISPs and bought and paid for state/local governments for that.
[21:30:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:17] <exec> 08└─Nah, it's users. No one chose to use facebook because of technical limitations of other sites. A lot did because "all their friends used it".
[21:30:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:40] <exec> 08└─When you design your study to measure objectively the number of bathroom visits per hour for men versus women, will you control for amount of liquid ingested per hour? Will you control for amount of caffeine ingested per hour? You know how you can predict who will make frequent trips to the bathroom...
[21:30:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 544 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:41] <exec> 08└─I've never been busted, because I at least try to be discreet about it. One of my happy pills causes Psychogenic Polydipsia - thirst of the mind. I have a raging unquenchable thirst. You can see where I am going here. I always plan my day's travel to include at least two pit stops. Such thirst is al...
[21:30:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:44] <exec> 08└─Zero urinals, more toilets, and more overall floor space to make room for fainting couches.
[21:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:46] <exec> 08└─-omenon: People in restrooms are more likely to wash their hands if someone else does so first. One of the experimenters was repeatedly washing his hands. I don't know how they counted how many preferred to spread disease.
[21:30:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:48] <exec> 08└─Public confessions under your full legal name certainly help. Have you seen The Parking Garage [primewire.ag] and have you been issued a public urination pass for uromysitisis?
[21:30:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:50] <exec> 08└─I have anecdotal evidence that says the experiment is full of shit. I always wash my hands and nobody is ever influenced by my example. Might have something to do with my complete lack of influence generally. Nobody ever follows except to tell me to get out of the way, and nobody ever listens except...
[21:30:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:52] <exec> 08└─Or, how transgender-friendliness may help in battling female-unfriendly toilet culture.
[21:30:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 878 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:55] <exec> 08└─To answer your question: Because the summary doesn't report much on the actual results for the study, which wasn't merely about why cue lengths are different, but mostly on measuring them in detail to model various options and to propose the most efficient designs given empirical constraints on bath...
[21:30:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:57] <exec> 08└─Sorry: obviously "cue" should be "queue"
[21:30:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:30:59] <exec> 08└─> > women go to the bathroom on average more often than men (Do we all know our biology?) > No. Explain it to me, professor. (...) Why should women urinate more frequently than men Your failure to get the point lies in the word "urinate". Pick a random crowd of women of all ages: about 7% of those w...
[21:31:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:31:02] <exec> 08└─That was my first thought. Co-ed stall-only works fine too. I've been to one restaurant that had them. The one I was in had walls on each stall that went from floor to ceiling. I've heard this is more common outside the US. I bet hand-washing is better with co-ed sinks too. People don't want a poten...
[21:32:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:02] <exec> 08└─WIMP
[21:32:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Atatsu [4251] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:03] <exec> 08└─Probably because to a lot of people in the US a horse is more than just an animal. Same with dogs. Eating dogs would be weird as shit IMO. People get sentimental about critters, you know. It wasn't all that long ago in the US where you were as good as dead if you were found without your horse. At le...
[21:32:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:05] <exec> 08└─I dunno mane The headline
[21:32:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:07] <exec> 08└─Actually there are quite a few grocery stores that went the employee owned / coop route, and they are quite successful. Keep on ignoring reality and making your own assumptions out of thin air. Gotta love those people who sound so CONFIDENT, they MUST know something, why else would they be so CONFID...
[21:32:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:32:09] <exec> 08└─Your reply indicates that you have misunderstood what you read.
[21:33:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:06] <exec> 08└─You are right, quality costs money (and time, which is associated with money). I don't believe we have to go full NASA for decent quality, but certainly super Agile, super rapid, super cheap is not the way to go either.
[21:33:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:07] <exec> 08└─I see your actions and your statements, I should see something else? I think your trolltastic but that isn't empathy I don't know you, and a radical fascist position over the internet is not likely to make me , but unlike you I leave hunting you down and killing you to locals that know what you are...
[21:33:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 699 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:09] <exec> 08└─As a consumer, how do I locate a product that fits into this middle ground? Most products are bought on some combination of features and cost. This pretty much dictates that products that have more than the bare minimum spent on QA and testing will be more expensive and less likely to survive compet...
[21:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:33] <exec> 08└─But RX560, 4 gig, Radeon Pro Duo (Verify the model I think there are two versions called this, earlier one was only 4GB of HBM, the new model is 16GB of GDDR5 or HBM2), HD7970/7950/280/280x (ONLY if you need support for older systems OR Double Precision Floating Point... best bang for your buck with...
[21:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:50] <exec> 08└─I wonder what the law of Australia has to say about the law of the excluded middle, the axiom of choice, synthetic differential geometry, and the continuum hypothesis, just to mention a few places where mathematics has wiggle room.
[21:34:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:52] <exec> 08└─For forty days and forty nights they toiled The kangaroos sweated, but were folied For they trumped the laws of mathematics And their zeroes became ones in attics
[21:35:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06George A. Romero, ‘Night of the Living Dead’ Director, Dies at 77 - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:35:12] <exec> 08└─Errrm, no. He is currently beginning to rot.
[21:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Apple Building Data Centre in China to Comply With Tough Cybersecurity Laws - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:31] <exec> 08└─What's google? Said 99.9% of Chinese people.
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[22:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:17] <exec> 08└─The companies looking to make cash with reduce effective security (secretly, to avoid backlash). "Bad Guys" (terrorist, drug lord, pedophile, you) will just use widely available open source encryption tools. I can easily write a script to encrypt stuff with an arbitrarily long key. Are they going to...
[22:30:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:19] <exec> 08└─I choose not to use Facebook because I have no friends and thus I have no peer pressure.
[22:30:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:21] <exec> 08└─Nah, it's users. No one chose to use facebook because of technical limitations of other sites. A lot did because "all their friends used it".
[22:30:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:23] <exec> 08└─I think you're underestimating the extent to which non-adoption of distributed platforms were because people are lazy. And overestimating the extent to which something at least 50% of internet users don't even know about affected their choices.
[22:30:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:25] <exec> 08└─...when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away." --Philip K Dick An ACTUAL QUOTE from Turnbull in TFA: "The laws of mathematics are very commendable but the only laws that apply in Australia is the law of Australia." Words fail me.
[22:30:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrGuy [1007] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:28] <exec> 08└─We really should have left encryption considered as a "munition." [xkcd.com]
[22:30:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:30] <exec> 08└─In an ideal world perhaps, but let's not kid ourselves. We all know that most corporations will trip over themselves to give the government what it wants provided it doesn't hit their bottom line.
[22:30:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:30:32] <exec> 08└─The bigger problem is the centralization of the internet around a few shitty social networks, but we can blame users for that.
[22:31:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:07] <exec> 08└─I should also point out that that would completely end controversies over which bathroom transgendered people can or should use.
[22:31:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:08] <exec> 08└─The more persons inside one's head, the higher the leaking frequency, eh?
[22:31:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:10] <exec> 08└─There have been past studies to see if women would be willing to use urinals-equivalents, and they found that women as a whole were not willing to.
[22:31:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:13] <exec> 08└─No, that's not how it works at all. You see, the alts get away with mischief, and the dominant suffers the consequences. When an alt is thirsty, well it's the alt's body too, but when the body needs to pee, that's the dominant's problem. The alts are just as likely to believe that they don't need hy...
[22:31:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:15] <exec> 08└─Right, so you're not going to support your claims at all. You're not going to cite Oprah and claim "women's bladders are smaller" and you're not going to claim women's intestines are somehow different and you're not even going to claim "women need to adjust their tampons." You're just going to be a...
[22:31:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 1242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:17] <exec> 08└─I live in California, and at the moment the gender designations don't mean jack diddly shit. I'm fairly uncomfortable going into the ladies room, but it really makes no difference anymore. I see tons of guys going into the ladies rooms now, and I see women going into the men's room instead of queuin...
[22:31:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:31:19] <exec> 08└─Explain it to me, professor. Women have a shorter urethra, smaller bladder, smaller kidneys, and lower blood volume than men. Why should women urinate more frequently than men, when women are proportionally smaller than men?
[22:32:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:24] <exec> 08└─It wasn't all that long ago in the US where you were as good as dead if you were found without your horse.
[22:32:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:26] <exec> 08└─Because if you didn't, these people would still be selling that crap with no regulatory organs to discover the deception.
[22:32:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:28] <exec> 08└─I've bought the Just Mayo from Hampton Creek. They have some misleading marketing -- but -- the product tastes good. in my tests with unsuspecting participants, they didn't notice the difference. It spreads a little more thickly/is not as wet as traditional mayo, but it tastes very similar and is su...
[22:32:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:30] <exec> 08└─So can I know who these 66 soylents are so I can know who I'm eating?
[22:32:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:32] <exec> 08└─i think he got in the way of the beam, he'd be no Weakly Interacting Magnetic Particle. He'd have the beam burn right through him--it'd be pretty active and dynamic. it happened to one guy before at some previous collider ring and he died. cooked right through him and it took a bit for them to clear...
[22:32:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:35] <exec> 08└─It wasn't all that long ago in the US where you were as good as dead if you were found without your horse. At least in "fly over" country.
[22:32:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:37] <exec> 08└─What, if you don't mind my asking, do you think a libertarian is?
[22:32:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:32:39] <exec> 08└─Mang, the headline tells me nothing.
[22:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:38] <exec> 08└─Meh
[22:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:39] <exec> 08└─Your the banker I presume you can manipulate the code so it shows whatever like algorithms your just making it up ass you go along
[22:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:42] <exec> 08└─My question still stand and no one has given me a valid response why should comp sci and math people be allowed out of there parents basement without supervision of people with social skills and empathy ?
[22:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:44] <exec> 08└─If you think that any of it is free from meat space idiocy ... your living in meat space idiocy this is why comp sci and math people should not be let out of the basement without supervision of people with social skills and empathy, not that in general this does not include there parents, others tha...
[22:33:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:46] <exec> 08└─Sorry not that it in general includes parents , and it should include people that have not grown up broken FTFM
[22:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 3121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:48] <exec> 08└─Or to put it more broadly: just because something is expressed in numbers doesn't mean it's more accurate or more "factual." Seriously -- I think that's the underlying problem today. Lots of people are numerically illiterate (or nearly so), and they view certain people who "get numbers" as if they a...
[22:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03KGIII [5261] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:51] <exec> 08└─Hmm... Here's a fun one. 0.999... = 1
[22:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:04] <exec> 08└─Basic question -- this post, modded to -1, shows up by default because of the *number* of mods applied to it, right? A quick pointer to why it's showing up would be helpful.
[22:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 2111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:06] <exec> 08└─It goes without saying that US citizens should be banned from travelling to other countries, for a whole raft of reasons. They're very loud, for one. Nice quiet suburban mom back home in (insert US city name here1) becomes a nasal foghorn that wakes up half the neighbourhood shouting out to her husb...
[22:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:08] <exec> 08└─Another basic question -- anyone know of big (or medium) IETF contributors/interested parties from the banned countries? I wanted to know the names in this field from those countries.
[22:35:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Osamabobama [5842] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:35:40] <exec> 08└─I don't have my law books handy; can you remind me? Is it 3?
[22:38:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03jmorris [4844] 02 - 06Feds Continue Crackdown on Annoying Robocalls - 1275 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:09] <exec> 08└─Think about it. Put in a *XX number to report unsolicited commercial call, i.e. SPAM and cut a PSA. Regardless what number shows on caller ID, the real number that originated is available to any trunk customer, thus available to any telco. Pick a threshhold of say a dozen reports on a number in a we...
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[23:30:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:08] <exec> 08└─For the first time I opened my eyes and looked at Cal. He noticed and smiled at me. I did not feel strange lying there with him. He was like an old friend. "For now, I shall give you something very special. It is a rare thing among us and not given lightly. You will learn its significance as time go...
[23:30:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:09] <exec> 08└─It is also the first study in the world to show that the kiss recipients have a tendency to match their partners' head-leaning direction.
[23:30:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:11] <exec> 08└─Except for Eskimos.
[23:30:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:14] <exec> 08└─Lies, this is clearly a social construct made up by the Patriarchy [youtube.com].
[23:30:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:16] <exec> 08└─In their next paper, scientists will be telling the woman or femme or bottom which foot to raise while kissing.
[23:30:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Over - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:18] <exec> 08└─I misread it as, "Humans Hardwired to Lean to the Right While Kissing the World Order". That would mean that if I kissed Putin, I'd vote for Trump. And if Trump kissed Putin ... never mind, I won't go there.
[23:30:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:45] <exec> 08└─Maybe this isn't technically a dupe, but didn't we cover this already today. https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[23:30:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03hendrikboom [1125] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:47] <exec> 08└─There's impressive room here for the Australian legislature to settle matters about which mathematicians have been arguing for ages. Or even ones they have proved undecidable, since Australian law overrides mere proof.
[23:30:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:49] <exec> 08└─The companies that don't care about privacy will keep doing business in Australia. We had a story yesterday about Apple's plan to open a data centre in Guizhou, China.
[23:30:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Google, Facebook Pressured to Decrypt Data by New Australian Law - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:30:51] <exec> 08└─I think you're underestimating the extent to which non-adoption of distributed platforms were because people are lazy. And overestimating the extent to which something at least 50% of internet users don't even know about affected their choices.
[23:31:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:32] <exec> 08└─My exposure to this unigender bathroom phenomena after attending a lecture at NYU. After the lecture I went to use the restroom and noticed that there was a rather long line of men outside the bathrooms and that the men in the line were using both bathrooms as they became available. It seems that th...
[23:31:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Researchers Study Lengths of Restroom Queues - 469 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:31:34] <exec> 08└─Menstrual cycles, moron. Since you have to have it spelled out, women have reasons to visit the restroom that men will never have. There are ALSO cultural reasons to visit the restroom, in addition to biological reasons. But since you aren't even aware of the biological reasons, no one expects you t...
[23:32:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Where's the Beef? - 663 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:32:48] <exec> 08└─... someone who believes that interaction should, as much as possible, occur in accordance with rules to which the interacting parties agreed in advance of interaction (this is an iterative process that becomes ever more voluntary through repeated negotiations, dispute resolutions, and enforcements,...
[23:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06How Can We Stop Algorithms From Lying? - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:54] <exec> 08└─TFA brings up four classes of "bad algorithms," but it's hard to understand what most of this has to do with "lying." (1) At the top there are the unintentional problems that reflect cultural biases. For example, when Harvard professor Latanya Sweeney found that Google searches for names perceived t...
[23:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Used GPUs Flood the Market as Ethereum's Price Crashes Below $150 - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:20] <exec> 08└─For games, I vote RX 480/580. Don't pay more than 200$ for it. They are 200$ new (if you could find one). If you can wait, AMD is releasing a new high-end card at the end of the month. It might suck though, nobody knows yet. But people will buy it anyways. So prices should drop even more. PS: I'm on...
[23:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IETF Moves Meeting From USA to Canada to Dodge Trump Travel Ban - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:11] <exec> 08└─Let's not resolve to name calling ... The people/ideas formerly known as Alt-right have been officially Mainstream for the last 6 months (or 9, depends how you count). Why call them Alt-wrong, when you could point out they are now Lamestream, Main-Right, or -gasp- Establishment?
[23:35:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laws of Australia Will Trump the Laws of Mathematics: Turnbull - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:35:44] <exec> 08└─There are several values of Pi used in the proposed legislation. As I pointed out [soylentnews.org] in a previous story about this, the bill actually had nothing to do with redefining pi, which was a myth that developed later. It was about (a flawed method for) squaring the circle and essentially "l...
[23:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06That Huge Iceberg Should Freak You Out. Here's Why - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:06] <exec> 08└─Apparently not. It becomes A7 in the Edinborough section. Not sure why, something to do with Global Warming and Scotland preparing to remain part of the EU, no doubt.
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[23:41:53] <exec> 08********** 03END FEED08 **********