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[00:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SpaceX Scrubs Sunday Launch Attempt, Will Likely Try Again Tuesday at 00:35 UTC [Updates: 2] - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:22] <exec> 08└─According to Ars Technica [arstechnica.com]: With a mass of 6,761kg, the Intelsat 35e communications satellite is the heaviest payload SpaceX has ever launched to geostationary orbit, about 36,000km above the Earth's surface. For this reason, the rocket will not have enough fuel reserves to attempt...
[00:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SpaceX Scrubs Sunday Launch Attempt, Will Likely Try Again Tuesday at 00:35 UTC [Updates: 2] - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:23] <exec> 08└─I can't wait to see their launch cadence when they start launching their low-Earth orbit constellation of comm satellites for global internet access!
[00:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:39] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much it will take to transform one-true-systemd into a fragmented conglomerate of patches applied by different distributions to make it functional.
[00:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:41] <exec> 08└─Software failure is fundamentally a human problem, not a technical one. Purely technical solutions fail to effect truly meaningful and lasting change. [warplife.com]
[00:33:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:43] <exec> 08└─Using a normal, valid username in one of the systemd config files, in a field that takes a username, will cause that username to effectively get root. BUT This is "not a bug" because you aren't allowed to edit the file and add the username, unless you're already root? See I read TFA. But I'm still n...
[00:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:45] <exec> 08└─Hurd has a concept of unprivileged user sort of like Unix 'nobody' except the unprivileged user has an empty user id.
[00:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:47] <exec> 08└─"default value, root" pretty much explains everything that is defective in the brains of those behind systemd
[00:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:50] <exec> 08└─Okay why the FUCK would an undefined value like this ever, EVER default to root?! Is it something like "assume 0 if no value" and 0 happens to be the root id, or what? I don't agree that this is a small bug; for the sake of simple correctness and minimizing your attack surface, fix it! Just add a ch...
[00:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:33:52] <exec> 08└─But I'm still not sure I get this. How does a username normally get written into one of these 'unit files' in the first place?
[00:36:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:01] <exec> 08└─Depends a lot on the .357, though. People persist in buying itty bitty aluminum/titanium/what-not framed revolvers in .357 magnum, and those little numbers make quite an impression with full-power loads. Off-topic, but since I probably sounded way too negative there, I'll be clear: I really don't cl...
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[01:33:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06TLS Security: Past, Present and Future - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:14] <exec> 08└─meaning that it will never end and has no winner.
[01:33:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 611 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:44] <exec> 08└─Okay why the FUCK would an undefined value like this ever, EVER default to root?! Is it something like "assume 0 if no value" and 0 happens to be the root id, or what? I don't agree that this is a small bug; for the sake of simple correctness and minimizing your attack surface, fix it! Just add a ch...
[01:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:46] <exec> 08└─OK, so that probably justifies thinking that it's not a super-critical, must-solve-this-second sort of bug. But how do they figure it's not a bug? Is there any conceivable, theoretical case where this behavior is expected and desired?
[01:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:49] <exec> 08└─"don't ascribe to malice anything easily explained as incompetence" and "default value, root" is incompetence. default value, root is incompetence. marking it 'not-a-bug WONTFIX' after the issue is raised however... that rises beyond incompetence.
[01:33:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:51] <exec> 08└─This Exactly. Throw/log an error and don't start the process should be the default behavior. Starting as root if the user name is invalid is beyond the pale.
[01:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:53] <exec> 08└─Using a normal, valid username in one of the systemd config files, in a field that takes a username, will cause that username to effectively get root.
[01:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:55] <exec> 08└─Okay why the FUCK would an undefined value like this ever, EVER default to root?!
[01:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:33:57] <exec> 08└─Systemd may define it as not a valid username, however systemd is not the judge of this and no one gives a fsck what Poettering thinks, it's simply not his call. There's nothing 'invalid' about a *nix username starting with a null and many, many have done so.
[01:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:08] <exec> 08└─Difference: the only purpose of a gun is to kill. But I target shoot only, you say. OK, let me amend my statement: you can also *practice* at killing.
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[02:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:17] <exec> 08└─Home-made brandy, that's some good shit. Home-made ales are hipster crap.
[02:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:19] <exec> 08└─After moving up to 10 gallons, I stumbled across StrangeBrew Elsinore and realized what I really needed to do was convert my whole system to be all-electric, and run it with a Raspberry Pi.
[02:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:21] <exec> 08└─/r/spacebuckets
[02:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:33:23] <exec> 08└─A lot of homebrewing is gargantuan overhead; this project is simply cutting away the fat, so that you can spend more time figuring out what needs to be done to create your work of art.
[02:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:07] <exec> 08└─Using a valid user name causes that unit to run as that (valid) user. The unit can't do anything the user couldn't do.
[02:34:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:09] <exec> 08└─Using a valid user name causes that unit to run as that (valid) user.
[02:34:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:11] <exec> 08└─Excuse me linking to that green place, but ACs there nailed the core of the problem, of which this bug is just another symptom: https://it.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] https://it.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] https://it.slashdo...
[02:34:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:13] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't that someone could write a malicious unit file, it's that someone could typo "apahce" and your web server would end up running as root. Substitute your possibly exploitable daemon of choice for apache.
[02:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:15] <exec> 08└─Screw this. I found an Arch-OpenRC iso and am going to install that, and if systemd ever becomes part of the kernel either literally or de facto, I'm moving onto *BSD. The links below mentioning the politics of Poettering-itis are eye-opening and sobering, and *once again* we can't have nice things...
[02:34:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:18] <exec> 08└─Modded up and thank you for linking this. It's eye-opening, in the way that sitting on a cactus is, and about as painful. Dammit all, greed turns everything into its slaves, like Jabba the Hutt with a million undressed Princess Leias on chains made of stock options.
[02:34:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:20] <exec> 08└─Slackware, Devuan, and Gentoo are all options for distros that have stayed mercifully free of Poettering's persistent pitfalls.
[02:34:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 1641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:22] <exec> 08└─I'll put it this way: It's always been clear to me that whatever Poettering's motivations, they weren't technical in nature. If they had been technical in nature, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to make his stuff not work with what already existed. Take logging, for instance. Let's say I wanted...
[02:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:24] <exec> 08└─It occurs to me that Poettering's approach is basically how a Windows user would have written Linux programs. That is not a nice thought.
[02:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:34:27] <exec> 08└─It occurs to me that Poettering's approach is basically how a Windows ME user would have written Linux programs.
[02:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:37] <exec> 08└─Did the gun possibly effect interstate commerce, even if only because your choice of that particular gun would affect market prices? The commerce clause applies. :-(
[02:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03deimtee [3272] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:39] <exec> 08└─Or maybe the test book was flat against something hard enough to stop the slug and the last few bits of paper just compressed against it instead of bursting open like unsupported paper would do.
[02:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:41] <exec> 08└─As far as I can tell, from past judicial decisions, if anyone, anywhere, anytime, ever purchased anything, then the commerce clause applies to allow the government to do whatever they want.
[02:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:43] <exec> 08└─I like TT formatting, too! I find it helps to stand out when the content itself normally does not! or I could do this
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[03:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 765 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:25] <exec> 08└─Many hobbies are as much about the journey as the destination. Homebrew has the advantage of being far cheaper than shop-bought beer, but this is almost irrelevant for most homebrewers; the fun is the measuring, monitoring, and fiddling - the "crafting". Adding this form of automation means the geek...
[03:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:27] <exec> 08└─grow magic mushrooms
[03:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03quixote [4355] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:29] <exec> 08└─And if you happen to be a world-class taster, like one hobby brewmaster I know, you can make beer that rivals the best Oktoberfest brews in Germany. Thanks for this article. truly News You Can Use!
[03:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:31] <exec> 08└─This brewed command line prompt is an art and has a lot of options variety. It's a total thing according to history. :-)
[03:33:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Justin Case [4239] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 601 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:33:58] <exec> 08└─"default value, root" pretty much explains everything that is defective in the brains of those behind systemd. Maybe it is not an easily exploitable bug (for now). But it is a cognitive bug that can only be fixed by replacing the people who think this is OK. Or, you know, by ignoring them and lettin...
[03:34:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 219 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:19] <exec> 08└─The problem isn't that someone could write a malicious unit file, it's that someone could typo "apahce" and your web server would end up running as root. Substitute your possibly exploitable daemon of choice for apache.
[03:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:26] <exec> 08└─No one ever said that good software has to be perfect.
[03:34:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:28] <exec> 08└─Don't use systemd. Don't use systemd unit files if you do anyway. And if you fucked up anyway, make sure you can trust your support programs (deamons). In other news, secret societies plan on removing the poettering bug with a flyswatt. It's the only way to be sure.
[03:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03unauthorized [3776] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:31] <exec> 08└─My experience is exactly the opposite. As a non-admin, the only arguments against systemd I regularly see are "muh unix philosophy", "it's a corporate conspiracy", "ZOMG binary logs", "it's the established truth so shut up" and "LP sucks balls". Incidentally, the AC comment you link falls within the...
[03:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:33] <exec> 08└─They're not wrong though, and as someone who *does* do admin stuff (though nothing that involves fucking around with unit files or shell scripts), I can tell you I *really* do not like the systemd way. It almost feels like Powershell, which I hate with all my heart, and it has the same corporate "no...
[03:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:35] <exec> 08└─Worse than incompetence which usually can be cured with education. This is as another one put it cognitive inability and which explains why experience hasn't cured this. This instance of carbon based life form is defect and needs urgent removal from influencing important operations.
[03:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:37] <exec> 08└─No log as it binary.. remember? total clusterfuck. Shit like this is what forces administrators to do late nighter to clean up after the braindamage writes code that scriptkids use. (which usually some pointy haired type decided must be used..)
[03:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 647 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:40] <exec> 08└─Found another good post: https://it.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] Simply, the problem is more complex than what they postulated and their solution, while working on most of it, breaks on the edge cases, which are... more than a bit numerous. And sometimes quite fu...
[03:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 895 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:42] <exec> 08└─Text logs are fine, just add another file with pointers or any other helper metadata new tools can need. Similar to BSD vipw and pwd_mkdb handling and checking text and binary files so they always valid, easily "grepable" (text ones) or fast via API/ABI (bin ones), in sync and simple to recover if s...
[03:34:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:44] <exec> 08└─Aha so it's Oracle vs Red Hat that is behind this. Oracle has already been noted for being deceptive assholes in areas completely unrelated to Linux. So this stinks a long way. Please... please.. make your software if( environment == Oracle or RedHat ) then die("Fucking shit");
[03:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:46] <exec> 08└─You must have missed all the technical analysis posted when systemd started to push around. I will mention just one: monoculture. That creates a stagnant enviroment, and when the issues hit, everything falls down. Now try to justify how a systemd monoculture is great.
[03:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Palmer Luckey Donates to CrossVR Patreon - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:34:57] <exec> 08└─Facebook & Co is all about selling out users that they succeeded to lure in. Users are dumb fucks that trust Suckerberg as one person said. Thanks for the info anyway.
[03:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Former UK Bank Regulator Joins New Merged Bank Lobbying Group - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:35:10] <exec> 08└─Too-big-to-jail
[03:37:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 430 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:06] <exec> 08└─Three paragraphs and you didn't answer butthurts question. 'What do you mean by "the cults"'? "They're cultists, this guy, they, their, this guy, the cult, some people, the guy, his supporters, cringeworthy fucker, he." That's a whole lot of unreferenced pronouns and generic labels without once spec...
[03:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Social Media for Kettling Activists and Campaigners - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:52] <exec> 08└─That would be a lot more impressive if it were demonstrably that public mass action movement that both demanded and extracted those concessions. Instead, that particular goal has been on the public's radar since the days when Hillary Clinton first made "political correctness" a phrase in the public...
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[04:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03black6host [3827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:33:33] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry. I have to point out the incongruity of your post with respect to your user name :) Cheers!
[04:34:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 247 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:13] <exec> 08└─"don't ascribe to malice anything easily explained as incompetence" and "default value, root" is incompetence. default value, root is incompetence. marking it 'not-a-bug WONTFIX' after the issue is raised however... that rises beyond incompetence.
[04:34:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03vux984 [5045] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 157 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:14] <exec> 08└─This Exactly. Throw/log an error and don't start the process should be the default behavior. Starting as root if the user name is invalid is beyond the pale.
[04:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:39] <exec> 08└─Don't ascribe to incompetence that which can be explained by self-interest.
[04:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:34:40] <exec> 08└─Fine, as not-mechanic, you have no issue with mechanics having to dissassemble the full engine to check a small filter. It's cheap anyway. High logic there, the issue doesn't affect you directly, then it doesn't matter for anyone (like mechanics that like to be preventive), or even you down the road...
[04:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Former UK Bank Regulator Joins New Merged Bank Lobbying Group - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:35:05] <exec> 08└─When they stripped the last of them away in the 90s
[04:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:01] <exec> 08└─Yes, the purpose is to kill. A free person has the right to keep and bear weapons designed for killing. If you don't have that right you're not free.
[04:37:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities Listened in on 3.3 Million Phone Calls - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:22] <exec> 08└─It's OK, it's just the government using a General Warrant [uslegal.com]. Mind you last time those were used it was one of the main causes of a significant war [history.com].
[04:39:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Roger Murdock [4897] (Score: 1) 02 - 06NASA to Redirect an Asteroid's Moon With Kinetic Impact - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:39:14] <exec> 08└─And what happens when no one gives a shit?
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[05:33:12] <exec> 08└─blacklisting of Hersh, who used to write regularly
[05:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:13] <exec> 08└─... but those filthy anarchists at Wikileaks are treacherous scum! Wait, sorry, wrong narrative. Let me try that again. Filthy capitalist warmonger pigdogs undermine virtuous peace-loving socialist cooperatives! Or something. But whatever they're doing is super-bad. Honestly, I'm not sure I care - n...
[05:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Self-Teaching Neural Networks Help Find Mysterious Stars Tearing Through the Milky Way - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:21] <exec> 08└─A decade ago, this would have been done using a massive collaboration of amateur volunteers. Hoorah, we humans had our "more accurate and productive than computers (mostly by sheer force of numbers)" hayday in the field of astronomy too - it lasted all of a decade.
[05:33:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah... naah. I reckon he was a bit too happy when he chose his nick; his intention might have been "MostCideral". Git tha' beer closah, will y...'ips? Cheers, mate. (btw, how's IPv4 CIDR, still exhausted?)
[05:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:33:38] <exec> 08└─#brewer exec sparge sparge initiated mash strain commenced. ERROR: LPT1 on fire! Repeat, Lauter Tun exceeds parameters! Abort, Re-sparge, or Ignore? &Lauter Tun is on fire.
[05:34:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:34:45] <exec> 08└─Linux is a monoculture. Look at AIX, the BSDs, macOS, QNX, Solaris, all have their own kernels. But every Linux distribution uses the Linux kernel. You want to accuse systemd of being an init monoculture when Linux already is a kernel monoculture.
[05:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Educating Children in the Developing World - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:35:35] <exec> 08└─Well, after writing about a page and a half chasing my thoughts, I might see why you linked it. I have absolutely no idea how to get the average person to see the things I've seen and realized, and you're absolutely right about the education offered to the masses being a sham. It doesn't matter whet...
[05:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 827 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:09] <exec> 08└─"As far as I can tell, from past judicial decisions, if anyone, anywhere, anytime, ever purchased anything, then the commerce clause applies to allow the government to do whatever they want." You need to dig deeper. It's well established that nothing needs to have even been purchased for the commerc...
[05:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:11] <exec> 08└─The comparison to past presidents was enough for me to catch the meaning. The fellow with the cardboard figure is named Gene Huber. http://www.youtube.com [youtube.com] http://edition.cnn.com [cnn.com]
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[06:33:22] <exec> 08└─One of the things I like about Soylent, is that the articles often come with a good list of citations. I notice this lacks all the citations. I am not even able to make a qualified opinion as to the veracity of this story. I simply don't know - and don't see the giant list of citations that often co...
[06:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1392 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:24] <exec> 08└─What sort of citations do you expect? While much of the mainstream media has begun to use anonymous sources as the default, this is the sort of story where if the sources were revealed it is extremely likely that they would face retribution. The article itself not only references numerous sources, p...
[06:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 773 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:49] <exec> 08└─Alright, here's the rest: his first ten batches will be piss, owing to: sensor failures, switch failures, programming errors, wiring faults, or any of the traditional spoilers-of-beer, or a combination of these things. De-bugging will take between one and six months. In the mean time, he will go bac...
[06:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06TLS Security: Past, Present and Future - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:33:57] <exec> 08└─Fair point, but unfortunately those temporary breaches aren't going to be a problem as much as the governments in question withholding bugs and then exploiting them before it's realized. Not saying that's the case for guhnoodles or other libs. But yeah, never know.
[06:34:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:34:59] <exec> 08└─FTFY. After that point, Windows had concepts like users, privileges & permissions, and a whole lot of other very useful concepts that Unix had had for decades..
[06:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:35:00] <exec> 08└─Every time shit like this comes up that Lennart or someone else that can't really deal with criticism calls "not a bug" and closes my love for the good parts of systemd decrements. Also I won't pretend to understand in what universe this could make root the fallback (attempt to deal with UID-passed...
[06:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:37:25] <exec> 08└─Seriously, I'm a fucking moron, at least half the time.
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[07:33:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Juno to Image Jupiter's Great Red Spot on July 10th - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:13] <exec> 08└─All earth's cats are now with their noses up looking for the red spot. Who will catch mice nao?
[07:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:24] <exec> 08└─I saw the word "soclalist" I think I'm gonna shit myself and die and then shit myself again.
[07:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03shortscreen [2252] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:26] <exec> 08└─Trump is the CIC so he gave the order. Whether it was his idea (not likely) or why he decided to go along with it (his handlers promised him a candy bar in return?) are not known. The point is that US corporate media are commited to the narrative that Assad is the problem and attacking Syria is the...
[07:33:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 765 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:44] <exec> 08└─Many hobbies are as much about the journey as the destination. Homebrew has the advantage of being far cheaper than shop-bought beer, but this is almost irrelevant for most homebrewers; the fun is the measuring, monitoring, and fiddling - the "crafting". Adding this form of automation means the geek...
[07:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:33:52] <exec> 08└─"Sensor reading out of range - is house on fire?"
[07:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 327 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:04] <exec> 08└─hold on. is it even possible to demand that an operating system is proven to be bug free? I mean... since we know that we can write algorithms who's behavior versus their input is undecidable, and the operating system is supposed to allow that algorithm to run, how much can we prove about the behavi...
[07:35:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:05] <exec> 08└─"--systemdLove" looks like a command line option. (see uint32_t uid initializer value)
[07:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:07] <exec> 08└─+4 insightful already, and I'll add one to it. Defaulting to root is about as stupid as stupid gets, FFS.
[07:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:09] <exec> 08└─This is not a bug, it is a requirement of a certain TLA.
[07:35:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:12] <exec> 08└─Whenever I've taken the time to report a problem with any open-source project, it gets ignored and then closed without any action taken. So this "wont-fix" is just the default, not necessarily anything to do with this specific bug.
[07:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:14] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure about all of that. Software is not precisely math, but an expression of things we want to do with it. Yeah, you can get a lot of your algorithms to work perfectly, and that's cool and all, but what if the algorithm doesn't do exactly what you wanted it to do? Then you tweak on it, ch...
[07:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:16] <exec> 08└─We will make the BEST software. Beautiful software. You'll love it so much, you don't even know. That's the level of code quality we should aspire to.
[07:35:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:18] <exec> 08└─Mmmm. That's scary to even think about. Your Windows user is likely to import DLL files for use as libraries. And, Microsoft would probably let him get away with it because embrace, extend, extinguish. Never mind that DLL's wreck anything or everything in existing libraries.
[07:35:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimshatt [978] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:20] <exec> 08└─Your details are slightly off. Instead of 'apahce' the username should start with a numeric character, e.g. '0pache'. The user may or may not exist, systemd will not accept the username (a feature??) and default to root... To rehash your explanation: this isn't an attack vector in itself, because y...
[07:35:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 938 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:35:23] <exec> 08└─"every Linux distribution uses the Linux kernel" No, not exactly. I run the Liquorix kernel most of the time. You're going to argue that Liquorix is just the Linux kernel with some crap tweaked. And, that, in and of itself, makes it different. Whichever kernel I am running, it doesn't behave precise...
[07:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:47] <exec> 08└─I'm cognizant of the fact that using this his name too much results in arguments falling on deaf ears before they even start because of what the usual expectation for discourse is now. Which I don't help by repeatedly calling him an insane idiot, but if it looks like a donald duck. Also I vent frequ...
[07:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06With a Single Wiretap Order, US Authorities Listened in on 3.3 Million Phone Calls - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:09] <exec> 08└─Well, it doesn't say they wiretapped just those 26 individuals, it says they wiretapped in order to track those 26 individuals. Given on the amount of calls and texts, I guess they wiretapped everyone who was even remotely related to the 26 suspects.
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[08:33:28] <exec> 08└─What Hitler did wasn't real National Socialism. -- jewg_
[08:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:30] <exec> 08└─National Socialism was about as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
[08:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:32] <exec> 08└─Disregard that I suck cocks. -- jewg_
[08:33:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:34] <exec> 08└─And expecting the agenda-driven and, as Carlin calls them, the "symbol-minded" to understand that is a losing bet. It's entirely correct, but the longer I live the more I understand that's somewhere between irrelevant and actually harmful to itself.
[08:33:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:36] <exec> 08└─I have always said, from day one, which was 62 B.C., that the military form would destroy whatever culture it infected. Greece resisted long, even under the assaults of the Persians, but fell under its own militarization to fend off that exact same threat. Let this be a lesson. The US military has...
[08:33:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:38] <exec> 08└─Hey, it is a g_weg sockpuppet! I haven't seen one of these in a while! Must be that that RNC has run out of money to fund them? But, of course, they could not have been spending very much to begin with, since I am Rinse Preivious, Trump's Head of Staff, and right now I have a staff, um, I am in char...
[08:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 534 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:33:41] <exec> 08└─I sympathise but there's a logical fallacy in your argument. Certain sections of the media and politicians may have been wrong about Iraq but that doesn't mean the same ones are wrong about Syria. I'm older and wiser than when the Iraq WMD claims were being made, and I'm much more critical of what I...
[08:35:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:28] <exec> 08└─I still don't understand why Debian, and others, were so quick to jump on the Red Hat bandwagon and make the change to systemd. They've pulled a huge number of distros into this corporate fight where I thought that one of Linux strengths was the diversity of distros and in the case of Debian the dem...
[08:35:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 335 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:29] <exec> 08└─A DLL is the Windows equivalent of a .so and in theory should be no more or less harmful all else being equal. We're long past "DLL Hell" aren't we? Now the problem is what's *in* the .dll files...this Linux Subsystem for Windows isn't even a solution looking for a problem, it's a shambling undead m...
[08:35:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:32] <exec> 08└─You and me both. I had high hopes, early on, that Debian would provide a sort of anti-RHEL bulwark and be a major force for non-systemd Linux. Essentially, I was hoping they'd rally the rest of the Linux world behind them and then everyone would say in a very loud voice "Okay RedHat, you do your thi...
[08:35:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:34] <exec> 08└─Mistakes happen. But that also means we should plan for mistakes happening. A mistake in a unit file shouldn't result in root. In fact, it's hard to imagine why anything in a unit file should result in root rather than a separate user for each one entirely. This is an example of poor design, which y...
[08:35:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:36] <exec> 08└─Actually, you already get a whole bunch of failures when quoting the complete sentence: It's systemd's parsing of the User= parameter that determines the naming doesn't follow a set of conventions, and decides to fall back to its default value, root
[08:35:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:38] <exec> 08└─hold on. is it even possible to demand that an operating system is proven to be bug free?
[08:35:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:40] <exec> 08└─I'm really hoping that Devuan gathers momentum and becomes a great success. Naive perhaps, but if they can keep fighting the systemd contagion as it touches more and more aspects of Linux then hopefully more users and developers will start to switch over. Who knows, maybe we will see *buntu or Mint...
[08:35:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:43] <exec> 08└─Anyone with a brain would separate things out, though. "Did we see a valid username yet?" variable (literally binary). "What is the username that we saw" (string). Then, even if you parse through the whole file, you would test against the "Did we see a valid username" variable and error if you haven...
[08:35:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Palmer Luckey Donates to CrossVR Patreon - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:53] <exec> 08└─As he backed CastAR Kickstarter for $10,000 but then never honored it [kickstarter.com]? So, fake news.
[08:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Palmer Luckey Donates to CrossVR Patreon - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:35:55] <exec> 08└─As he backed CastAR Kickstarter for $10,000 [roadtovr.com] but then never honored it [kickstarter.com]? So, fake news.
[08:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Former UK Bank Regulator Joins New Merged Bank Lobbying Group - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:36:10] <exec> 08└─You've heard of insurance right? Deposit insurance is how it's normally done. But since most Reserve Banks seem to think its fine and dandy to throw trillions at the failing banks anyway, just give a few scraps to the savers as well (or instead of ideally). Quite trivial really.
[08:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03KritonK [465] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Researchers Create Temperature Sensor That Runs on Almost No Power - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:39:19] <exec> 08└─I thought that temperature sensors [wikipedia.org] use no power at all.
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[09:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:16] <exec> 08└─In reading about our red scares in text books it always feels like some distant world. How could an entire country become so unjustly paranoid and throw out all notions of innocent until proven guilty? It feels as though we're now going down what must have already happened in the past. Notions of in...
[09:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:18] <exec> 08└─Which department of the US government is going to audit the code? They better be fluent in Russian because I doubt Kaspersky wrote their variable names & comments in English. And how will they know that they got is the same/complete source code used in the available Kaspersky product line? Different...
[09:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 382 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:20] <exec> 08└─If you haven't noticed, the scare has been underway for a long time now. It is sad to see all Russians lumped in with the criminals around Putin. On the other hand, looking in from outside I often find it difficult to distinguish between Americans and the shit your government pulls. [reuters.com] (R...
[09:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:22] <exec> 08└─I really don't see what is "worrisome" about this, at least not for Kaspersky. It's hardly novel for a close source software or hardware company to turn over their code for inspection by government agencies or their designated external auditors; even the likes of Microsoft have done it when it came...
[09:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:24] <exec> 08└─the media does not mean the whole country for fuck sake. the MSM just has a hardon for ratings, nothing more. the fact that this baseless nonsense is being talked about constantly without a single shred of fucking evidence outside of he-said-she-said should tell you all you need to know.
[09:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:51] <exec> 08└─Certain sections of the media and politicians may have been wrong about Iraq but that doesn't mean the same ones are wrong about Syria.
[09:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 2238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:33:52] <exec> 08└─It's not about right or wrong. People and organizations make mistakes, and that is fine. It's about a complete lack of investigative vigor in lieu of simply repeating the official line. In Iraq the media was completely unified in their pursuit for war. There were many major questions that needed to...
[09:34:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06TLS Security: Past, Present and Future - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:34:26] <exec> 08└─By reducing the temporal window of vulnerability, you only place restrictions on the attackers budget, which will further give the advantage to rich and well-connected. TLS/SSL etc. ecosystem is fit for purpose, but as i see it, the purpose is to make the user feel feelings.
[09:36:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02 - 06Educating Children in the Developing World - 71 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:26] <exec> 08└─This: I'm so privileged I can walk down the street at night unarmed...
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[10:33:17] <exec> 08└─It's very simple. The government should not be banning software without effectively irrefutable evidence of malfeasance. In this case it's clear such evidence does not exist. There's no security through obscurity here. If the government had solid evidence then source access would be more than suffic...
[10:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:18] <exec> 08└─Depends how far Kaspersky is willing to go in order to try and secure a US Government contract. I was involved in some early discussions with Huawei back when they were first starting to get involved in selling to the West and there was all that talk about how the Chinese might have backdoored the p...
[10:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:21] <exec> 08└─So for instance, it would also be a good thing if the European Union demanded the same from American companies?
[10:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:23] <exec> 08└─The Department of the Navy has boatloads of cryptography techs who are fluent in Russian, if no other department has them. I can't say how many CT's are also programmers, or competent to audit code, but some of them are.
[10:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:33:25] <exec> 08└─Not that I use their products but that's the end of any potential relationship with me. I'd much rather have the Russians hacking my shat than my own government. The Russians don't give two fucks about me and are in no position to do anything about anything they find.
[10:34:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06TLS Security: Past, Present and Future - 1584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:28] <exec> 08└─All that work spent improving the strongest part of the chain, while doing absolutely nothing about the weakest link - the reliance on Certificate Authorities, of which any major bad actor has at least one. Turkey has one, China has several, the NSA probably have their own, and definitely have the a...
[10:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06TLS Security: Past, Present and Future - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:34:29] <exec> 08└─By now, plain HTTP should be more trustworthy than HTTPS.
[10:35:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:51] <exec> 08└─Perhaps systemd is written by the people from the B Ark. I wonder if they've decided what colour it should be yet?
[10:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:53] <exec> 08└─Cheers for the correction.
[10:35:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:55] <exec> 08└─Lazy developers of systemd is my guess. They didn't want to have to have a user = clause in every friggin unit.
[10:35:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:35:57] <exec> 08└─It's not related to starting with a numeric character, it's any invalid (in systemd's view) username, including typos such as apaché. The problem with usernames starting with a digit is that those are actually VALID usernames in a posix system, but systemd does not consider them valid. So the fully...
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[11:33:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:10] <exec> 08└─But, surely, anyone who cares or does this professionally wouldn't be using a search engine to check their stocks, right? Especially not if they're basing investment etc. decisions on such data. One day a typo is going to wipe out the world.
[11:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:27] <exec> 08└─So for instance, it would also be a good thing if the European Union demanded the same from American companies?
[11:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:29] <exec> 08└─Sure, and as the AC noted, it happens already. For better or worse systems are getting increasingly connected, so the previous approach of "it's air gapped so security doesn't matter quite so much" (which in practice often meant "at all") is becoming less and less relevant. If you are not assuming t...
[11:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:31] <exec> 08└─Great Mother America announced today that Kaspersky Lab has partnered with the department of state security to bring security to all citizens, the software is now mandatory for the security of the state, also pick up that can
[11:33:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:33] <exec> 08└─and are in no position to do anything about anything they find.
[11:33:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03shortscreen [2252] 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 485 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:51] <exec> 08└─Trump is the CIC so he gave the order. Whether it was his idea (not likely) or why he decided to go along with it (his handlers promised him a candy bar in return?) are not known. The point is that US corporate media are commited to the narrative that Assad is the problem and attacking Syria is the...
[11:33:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1357 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:33:56] <exec> 08└─I have always said, from day one, which was 62 B.C., that the military form would destroy whatever culture it infected. Greece resisted long, even under the assaults of the Persians, but fell under its own militarization to fend off that exact same threat. Let this be a lesson. The US military has...
[11:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, um, sorry. He's not privy to classified intel briefings. Or even non-classified briefings really. He heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another we've been messin' around.
[11:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Self-Teaching Neural Networks Help Find Mysterious Stars Tearing Through the Milky Way - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:34:11] <exec> 08└─> Self-Teaching Not self-teaching. Someone has to run the routines on a whole bunch of fake data; then see how the routines respond on real data. That is definitely not "self-teaching".
[11:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:07] <exec> 08└─The user "nobody" is not an unprivileged user. It's a terribly named user with only access to Apache / wwwroot, and should not be used for anything else. The user "nobody" should really be named "apache".
[11:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:09] <exec> 08└─They didn't want to have to have a user = clause in every friggin unit.
[11:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 1635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:36:11] <exec> 08└─Part of the issue here is the differences in opinion of what constitutes a valid username. Are leading digits allowed or not? Similarly, should the code in question check if the username is actually present on the system it is being executed on, as a username can be valid, but non-existent on the sy...
[11:37:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 221 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:37:16] <exec> 08└─To help persuade her to pull the trigger, Mr. Ruiz had even shown Ms. Perez a book that he had previously shot himself, she told investigators. In that case, she said, the bullet had not gone all the way through the text.
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[12:33:06] <exec> 08└─Fake news now trending in finance. Interesting times.
[12:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:27] <exec> 08└─Russian state actors ain't gonna do them type o things. They might at most use the box to launch an attack on infrastructure. Which is the concern of the infrastructure admins not mine.
[12:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 906 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:29] <exec> 08└─Closed source software only came about as an accident of compilers and a severe monoculture in processor arches. In a sane world copyright would only cover binaries as derived works, source would be the thing protected. Every customer would get a copy and we would all be super Gentoo "Ricers" compil...
[12:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:33:58] <exec> 08└─The story always stank. The most obvious problem - assuming you know what Sarin is - was watching the footage of the rescue workers immediately after the bombing. Sarin is a contact poison, and yet the rescue workers were handling debris, victims, etc, with their bare hands. No protection whatsoever...
[12:34:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:34:00] <exec> 08└─But instead of having an independent investigative media
[12:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 1055 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:07] <exec> 08└─The problem is also one of username mapping. Just because you're fredbloggs on one machine doesn't mean you're allowed access to anything of fredbloggs on another that happens to have the same username. Do you go by username, or by user ID (which can be mapped differently but it was is encoded on th...
[12:36:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:08] <exec> 08└─For me, the huge warning sign was the sticky, complex nature of the systemd system. It's a tar pool. Once you use one tool, suddenly, you have to pull in all this crap in addition. Everything touched by these people gets sucked into the pool.
[12:36:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:11] <exec> 08└─i dont get it. fast forward, 5 years, this "non-bug" is old news, thus forgotten. along comes a newbie , blue-and-green from all the windows beating, decides "enough is enough" and starts to learn/play with linux. obviously it's his linux system and sooner or latter s/he will create a user. because...
[12:36:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:13] <exec> 08└─I too "had high hopes, early on, that Debian would provide a sort of anti-RHEL bulwark and be a major force for non-systemd Linux". I was very wrong. I don't know if Devuan has the scale needed. I hope it has, but the early signs are not good.
[12:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Former UK Bank Regulator Joins New Merged Bank Lobbying Group - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:41] <exec> 08└─> thank you clinton and gingrich I believe Blair and Brown led the way
[12:38:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mcgrew [701] 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 653 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:02] <exec> 08└─The reason I think the "Darwin Award" is so funny is because of something you pointed out--the dead guy had already procreated, and procreation is far more important for evolution than intelligence. In fact, most stupid people live ling enough to have dozens of grandkids. Now, someone with a high-fu...
[12:38:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 20 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:38:25] <exec> 08└─Yeah well fuck beta.
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[13:33:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:15] <exec> 08└─People have long said Einstein benefited greatly not only from others, but from the women around him in particular. Nobody escapes the naysayers. It's just that now we're living in an age when youthful women are worshiped even more than they have been in the past, so this is "news". I suppose it's m...
[13:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:24] <exec> 08└─At the nuclear missile command: Intended message: "Lunch!" Sent message: "Launch!" Oops.
[13:33:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lx [1915] 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 382 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:34] <exec> 08└─If you haven't noticed, the scare has been underway for a long time now. It is sad to see all Russians lumped in with the criminals around Putin. On the other hand, looking in from outside I often find it difficult to distinguish between Americans and the shit your government pulls. [reuters.com] (R...
[13:33:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:48] <exec> 08└─The government should not be banning software without effectively irrefutable evidence of malfeasance.
[13:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:50] <exec> 08└─The government should not be banning software without effectively irrefutable evidence of malfeasance.
[13:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:52] <exec> 08└─Which department of the US government is going to audit the code? They better be fluent in Russian because I doubt Kaspersky wrote their variable names & comments in English.
[13:33:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:54] <exec> 08└─It's very simple. The government should not be banning software without effectively irrefutable evidence of malfeasance.
[13:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:56] <exec> 08└─I don't know, another advantage of binaries is that they help keep "trade secrets". Of course they can be decompiled, but at least there's some barrier to discovery of your private algorithms. That would also have been a bigger deal back in the day when programs were smaller and did clever things to...
[13:33:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Spamalope [5233] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:33:58] <exec> 08└─Worrisome? 3 letter agencies use the source code to craft malware it won't detect and to better search for ways to exploit it? They're going to try at least.
[13:34:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:30] <exec> 08└─In the article, there is a statement that sarin is absorbed by paint, so paint samples from the bombed area should be capable of showing if they have been exposed to sarin since whatever structure they were covering was painted. If sarin were present at the bombsite; either from the bomb, or from st...
[13:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:32] <exec> 08└─Maybe. I wouldn't say his judgement (without all the information) is better or staking his reputation on the line means much to me, but journalists certainly shouldn't take governments at their word. He is, at least, asking the kind of questions that an investigative journalist should. Have those "p...
[13:34:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:34:34] <exec> 08└─It was always clear that the US government was - once again - lying through its teeth. My best guess is that this is just a continuation of the desire to topple Syria's government.
[13:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:45] <exec> 08└─is it even possible to demand that an operating system is proven to be bug free?
[13:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03SDRefugee [4477] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:47] <exec> 08└─Starting as root if the user name is invalid is beyond the pale.
[13:39:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:39:17] <exec> 08└─http://shanghaiist.com/2017/06/30/aloe-vera-eater.php [shanghaiist.com] http://bgr.com [bgr.com]
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[14:33:11] <exec> 08└─your trolling is lacking. (and internally inconsistent)
[14:33:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:12] <exec> 08└─We're all waiting with bated breath for your rich logical analysis.
[14:33:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:23] <exec> 08└─It seems to be originating with NYSE, which many might consider to be authoritative: https://www.theregister.co.uk [theregister.co.uk]
[14:33:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:53] <exec> 08└─Of course Hua;wei is willing to provide code, and even let you compile it yourself. The backdoors are built into the hardware, the code doesn't matter.
[14:33:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:33:54] <exec> 08└─https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170624/13334837657/to-avoid-being-cut-out-market-us-tech-companies-are-allowing-russian-vetting-source-code.shtml [techdirt.com] Russian's have been doing it too.
[14:34:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:29] <exec> 08└─Or the United States of America are united?
[14:34:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03MostCynical [2589] 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 773 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:34:55] <exec> 08└─Alright, here's the rest: his first ten batches will be piss, owing to: sensor failures, switch failures, programming errors, wiring faults, or any of the traditional spoilers-of-beer, or a combination of these things. De-bugging will take between one and six months. In the mean time, he will go bac...
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[14:35:49] <exec> 08└─Excuse me linking to that green place, but ACs there nailed the core of the problem, of which this bug is just another symptom: https://it.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] https://it.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] https://it.slashdo...
[14:36:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 249 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:26] <exec> 08└─Actually, you already get a whole bunch of failures when quoting the complete sentence: It's systemd's parsing of the User= parameter that determines the naming doesn't follow a set of conventions, and decides to fall back to its default value, root
[14:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:43] <exec> 08└─no one gives a fsck what Poettering thinks, it's simply not his call Sadly that's not true. I don't know why, but for some reason what he decides goes. Time and time again he causes a horrendous mess, and time and time again we follow him. He has an obscene amount of power - on the order of that of...
[14:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:45] <exec> 08└─Well...they do all have pulseaudio by default at this point. But he's been off the project long enough now that it's not as bad as it was for a long time. Doesn't necessarily mean the Slackware community is all too pleased about it.
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[15:33:17] <exec> 08└─I'm not surprised in the least that she was underplayed in that era. But is this shit people think now? Also this quote seems hilariously outdated for a 1990 paper. Had I not seen shit more ridiculous in the last 2 hours I might have a second thought: mad as a hatter … with the most amazing delusi...
[15:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:19] <exec> 08└─Let's celebrate a great geeky hacker who did some interesting stuff. More a Jobs than a Torvalds, but that's okay too!
[15:33:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 1077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:33:30] <exec> 08└─So typical for the Fake News Media. The Dow hit a new intraday all-time high, but they report this fake shit instead. When Obama was President, the #MSM LOVED talking about stock market rallies! Now they barely mention new all-time-highs. Really great numbers on jobs & the economy. At some point the...
[15:34:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:02] <exec> 08└─My native language (Bulgarian) also uses Cyrillic alphabet (well, it is Russian that is an old pirated version of it) and I can assure you that most program code I have seen has pretty much English identifiers and (if any) English comments. It is just a major hassle to switch both your keyboard and...
[15:34:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:38] <exec> 08└─I'll remind you that during and after the Iraq war, the warhawks insisted that the reason they didn't find WMD's in Iraq, was that Saddam shipped it all out to Syria. I was and still am skeptical of that claim. If Saddam had a credible weapons stock, he almost certainly would have used that stock ag...
[15:34:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:40] <exec> 08└─Not a single citation, nothing you've said makes sense. You think it better to roll over and play dead, anytime someone threatens? We should have allowed Emperor Hirohito and Hitler to divide the world between them? The Mongols should have been welcomed with open arms, and open legs? Likewise the Pe...
[15:34:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:34:42] <exec> 08└─Trust me, I pay O attention to FAKE briefings from the Lying CIA. I call it the Clinton Infiltration Agency. 🇺🇸
[15:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:56] <exec> 08└─They're not wrong though, and as someone who *does* do admin stuff (though nothing that involves fucking around with unit files or shell scripts), I can tell you I *really* do not like the systemd way. It almost feels like Powershell, which I hate with all my heart, and it has the same corporate "no...
[15:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:58] <exec> 08└─I get your point, but I think you missed mine. Not even the distro he works for actually considers these filenames invalid.
[15:36:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:00] <exec> 08└─Meant usernames not files obviously.
[15:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:02] <exec> 08└─(Grandparent) what constitutes a valid username
[15:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:05] <exec> 08└─Came here to say the exact same thing!
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[16:33:18] <exec> 08└─I'm willing to bet real money that this is caused by some 'cost saving' measure...
[16:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:33:19] <exec> 08└─> TECO has a long history of similar incidents. [...] the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor-- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to be precise. It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely resembles transmission line noise...
[16:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:13] <exec> 08└─Until that infrastructure is the one that runs your banking or the one that runs logistics that delivers food to your city. Are you an anti-vaxer or something because that's kinda the thinking they use.
[16:34:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:15] <exec> 08└─> Russian's have been doing it too. Everyone does it. Or rather, everyone would do it if they could. If you are offered up a juicy state/corporate contract, but they want to do an audit of your code, you can walk away, or play ball. Your code (IP) is worth something to you. What it is worth is how m...
[16:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:17] <exec> 08└─we wouldn't need Russian antivirus to patch the holes.
[16:34:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:19] <exec> 08└─Sure they could give them some nice clean source code. Whats to prove only it went to make the binary though?
[16:34:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:22] <exec> 08└─When will they require this of election machine code?
[16:34:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:34:24] <exec> 08└─Sure they could show the government some nice clean source code. Whats to prove it (and only it) went to make the binary though?
[16:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:03] <exec> 08└─It's not really oil and gas. That's just the first level deception. The real reason is that Israel does not want any of its neighbors to have stable, reasonable governments or civilised populations.
[16:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:04] <exec> 08└─Since the active agent in many bleaches is chlorine (loosely bound as the hypochlorite ion) I have no trouble believing that a bombed stock of bleach could give off sufficient chlorine to poison nearby people. Don't know about the pesticides, but it sounds plausible. Hell, burning plastic will give...
[16:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:07] <exec> 08└─Not paint, but a lot of other stuff (soil, vegetation, clothing, dead animals and human samples) were analyzed [opcw.org]. Most of those test positive for sarin (either sarin in low amounts, its by-products or its direct degradation products), or a very similar substance (certainly not chlorine or f...
[16:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondrake [2658] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:35:09] <exec> 08└─at the time the attack was ordered, the evidence was weak. But after i read the OPCW report (linked in my post below) I am pretty convinced sarin was involved. I tend to trust the measurements of the chemicals more than anonymous sources. Just because some chlorine and stuff was also detected (it ma...
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[17:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03nnet [5716] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:24] <exec> 08└─Its not July 29 yet.
[17:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:25] <exec> 08└─Actually, it was June 29th.
[17:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:27] <exec> 08└─tfs spells out that 'cost saving' measure you refer to. Hiring subcontractors to perform routine maintenance is the measure you are trying to find. That kind of crap has a tendency to snowball. You hire it out to a contractor, he hires a subcontractor, who may then hire a subcontractor of his own. N...
[17:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:30] <exec> 08└─$ cal -3 June 2017 July 2017 August 2017 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 1 1 2 3 4 5 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...
[17:33:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:32] <exec> 08└─Industrial accidents kill people all the time, often horribly and usually due to management policies and mismanagement. My grandfather went four stories down a doorless elevator shaft. My dad witnessed an electrocution shortly before his retirement. When I worked at a copper factory for a few months...
[17:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:43] <exec> 08└─I wish De Morgan had been my private calculus tutor to. I would like to think it would have made things so much easier.
[17:33:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:33:55] <exec> 08└─I still can't tell is twitter is just an awful way to communicate or I don't get it. These news stories that amount to copy pasted twitter comments are also bizarre. Is it possible to comment and not allow random people to make money by pasting it on their news site?
[17:34:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:34] <exec> 08└─There is 48+ percent of Americans who AREN'T any different from the policy America is pushing those years. The only real difference is which ~48 percent it is. It wasn't until this past election that I realized how true it was/had become in America. But the country has basically devolved into two gi...
[17:34:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:36] <exec> 08└─Never, if anything the government would get access to that source (which they likely already do), not the general public.
[17:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:38] <exec> 08└─I'm sure they love protecting their secrets. But where is the public interest in that? Remember "Intellectual Property" is a lie, RMS is dead right on that one. We grant Copyright and Patents, for limited times, as a cold transaction to improve progress in Science and the Useful Arts. If they get th...
[17:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:40] <exec> 08└─Actually, I think it's foolish for any government to use ANY foreign hardware or code. If I were the EU I'd certainly not use American software and Chinese computers.
[17:34:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:42] <exec> 08└─As long as there are paper ballots that can later be counted by hand it isn't that important.
[17:34:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Juno to Image Jupiter's Great Red Spot on July 10th - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:34:51] <exec> 08└─Better not get too close. Its actually a ripe zit.
[17:35:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03nnet [5716] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:35:27] <exec> 08└─Sad.
[17:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:49] <exec> 08└─They wanted to ship Gnome as the default desktop. Gnome depends on systemd-logind unless you want to patch to shim, and one can just ask Canonical how well that works. systemd-logind in turn depends on systemd-pid1 to handle all things cgroups. Basically Debian, for all its presence in the Linux com...
[17:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:50] <exec> 08└─why are you using tor?
[17:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:52] <exec> 08└─Simple: The observed behavior is in line with how systemd was designed and therefore obviously correct. Since usernames can't begin with a digit and every major Linux distribution has been breaking the standard for years before it was even conceived it's not systemd's problem but that of everyone el...
[17:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:55] <exec> 08└─The point is, even if you accept that journald is useful (an open question), they're doing it wrong.
[17:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:57] <exec> 08└─Original source of that quote: me. Glad to see it being used!
[17:37:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:37:59] <exec> 08└─Measure with a micrometer, mark with chalk and cut with a chain saw.
[17:40:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:31] <exec> 08└─I'm pretty sure even Einstein had bouts of stupidity.
[17:40:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:40:32] <exec> 08└─Most stupidity and mental retardation isn't hereditary. Fetal alcohol syndrome, lead poisoning... a raft of other non-genetic causes.
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[18:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:24] <exec> 08└─People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but I am calling it what we need and what it is, a MUSLIM BAN! 🇺🇸 #MAGA
[18:33:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:25] <exec> 08└─Are you though? I've been looking since the backlash (half from his own guys) when he called it that, doesn't seem to anymore. Now he's content to shoot himself in the foot with "voter fraud panel". Topic: I'm happy the TSA declared it implemented properly. Because they're so reputable and competent...
[18:33:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 820 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:40] <exec> 08└─Industrial accidents happen. Thankfully they happen a lot less often these days in the 1st World, but that is mostly because we learned from the past. Lots of good people died horrible deaths as we painfully learned how to safely tame the science that makes our lifestyles possible. But it still isn'...
[18:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:42] <exec> 08└─The worst I've heard of was in my own area of San Diego a few years ago. A guy was up in a tree trimming branches when he fell... straight into the wood chipper. He was working alone but a bystander heard the chipper noise change and when he looked the guy was pretty much distributed all over the ba...
[18:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:44] <exec> 08└─I'm impressed how good this calendar looks!
[18:33:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:33:56] <exec> 08└─Indeed she was brilliant. I've found the section of her Notes where she outlines GIGO to be helpful when explaining why there can be more wrong with a program than simply giving it the wrong inputs: The Analytical Engine has no pretensions whatever to originate anything. It can do whatever we know h...
[18:34:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 369 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:53] <exec> 08└─I couldn't agree with you more about closed-source running counter to the public benefit, and thankfully the market does seem to be transitioning away from it. Of course the new kid on the block would be SaaS, which just doubles down on the secrecy. I'd love to be in a position to diss on that with...
[18:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:54] <exec> 08└─They absolutely should. That is rather the point. Banning software specifically prevents organizations from making their own decisions. To make matters even worse, these top-down level decisions are almost invariably based more on xenophobia and politics than valid concern. Hence the reason we have...
[18:34:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:57] <exec> 08└─Those qualifications are specifically related to your performance. I think the analog would be more along the lines here is if the military started refusing admittance from anybody who was more than 1/8th Russian - even if they're a second generation American. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ba...
[18:34:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:34:59] <exec> 08└─Irrelevant. There's nothing gained by launching a hack from my box as opposed to the gerzillions of other devices they have rooted already. I have nothing Russia cares about. Now US politicians, they desperately want my 4th Amendment rights. Both sides of the aisle do, though the right are pushing f...
[18:35:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:01] <exec> 08└─Given that could be as simple as failing to include some detection signatures for the FSB's equivalent of the NSA's hacking tool suite that had better include some kind of defence in depth
[18:35:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:03] <exec> 08└─The real problem is that this is proprietary software and no one should trust it anyway. If they can't even be bothered to give their users freedom, then they are worthless and abusive.
[18:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:05] <exec> 08└─It should be illegal for the government to use any proprietary software, since the government should encourage freedom, independence, and education; proprietary software laughs in the face of all of those things. Additionally, our government should not be dependent on large corporations to do their...
[18:35:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:08] <exec> 08└─In a sane world, all software would be Free Software. What you describe is still non-free proprietary user-subjugating software because it doesn't respect the users' four freedoms, and so it remains intolerable.
[18:35:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 515 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:35:53] <exec> 08└─Nobody thought any politician would have the guts to approve that missile strike. And I just closed my eyes and said "do it." It's beautiful, it's great, everybody's happy, the sun is still shining, Assad's on his throne. Let me tell you, he was flying planes from the same airfield the day after my...
[18:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jesus_666 [3044] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:20] <exec> 08└─From what I've heard that's what they do - it's just that the default assumption (if no User= line is present) is that the unit runs as root. If they do have a User= line and don't like its contents, however, they seem to pretend it wasn't there in the first place instead of refusing to run the unit...
[18:38:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 685 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:21] <exec> 08└─The argument amounts to: After all this effort, what's been accomplished is replacing possibly-complex shell scripts that work with really complex C that doesn't always work. For example, I have rendered a systemd-based box unbootable by unplugging the USB mouse that it expected to have. That isn't...
[18:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:24] <exec> 08└─I still don't understand why Debian, and others, were so quick to jump on the Red Hat bandwagon and make the change to systemd.
[18:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:38:26] <exec> 08└─At least that's how I imagine the systemd team sees it.
[18:40:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03realDonaldTrump [6614] (Score: 2) 02 - 06In Attempt to Achieve YouTube Stardom, Woman Accidentally Kills Her Boyfriend - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:40:59] <exec> 08└─¡Adiós! Self-deportation is a beautiful thing. 🇺🇸
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[19:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:17] <exec> 08└─Code monkeys from Abu Dhabi must BYOD.
[19:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:18] <exec> 08└─Mr President, sir, what about the Mexican Ban? I want to build a wall! I do expect to get paid. Funding please.
[19:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:21] <exec> 08└─Official bans is not a great match for political influence and $$$$. Guess who has both! So the question becomes what soft spot did they push and how much did it cost to bypass this ban?
[19:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:23] <exec> 08└─However people from Abu Dhabi don't work for a living a lot so not so much moar H1B serfs from that body production site.
[19:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:25] <exec> 08└─Lol drumf btfo. Omg trumop wants a laptop ban based on evidence provided by the Israelis, he hates muslims and is racist! Omg trump retracts ban after concerns about screening are address, he loves big business and takes it up the ass for cash!
[19:33:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:42] <exec> 08└─I agree. Safety first. Heavy industry is dangerous. Shut it down. High voltage electricity is dangerous. Shut it down. Safety first, remember! Can't have steam power either - steam is very dangerous. Safety first! You know what else is dangerous? Cars! And in fact, power tools! All shut down, right...
[19:33:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:43] <exec> 08└─Tactful as ever.
[19:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:45] <exec> 08└─Try curl http://wttr.in or curl http://wttr.in
[19:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 3213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:33:59] <exec> 08└─- As a kid Einstein was a loner. Never liked to associate with other kids so much at school or at home. While other kids played in the yard, he stayed inside by himself and daydreamed. He had "no understanding how to relate to people" and had temper problems as well. One time he threw a chair at his...
[19:35:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:03] <exec> 08└─You're the only one tossing around this banning word. You, your school, your city planning department, the church, the dry-cleaners, can pretty much use any Kaspersky software they want. Its freely available. Its not Banned. The General Services Admin does the purchasing for the US Government. Even...
[19:35:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:05] <exec> 08└─It is important, because the government should not be allowed to use proprietary software at all, and certainly shouldn't be allowed to require others use it if they want to vote (even momentarily).
[19:35:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:07] <exec> 08└─Good question. There's a notion called "reproducible builds" (perhaps known by other names too). A build is reproducible if given the same source code, build environment and build instructions, any party can recreate bit-by-bit identical copies of all specified artifacts.
[19:35:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:09] <exec> 08└─If I were the EU I'd certainly not use American software and Chinese computers.
[19:35:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:11] <exec> 08└─I'd much rather have the Russians hacking my shat than my own government.
[19:35:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:13] <exec> 08└─You could look at it, make local changes, etc.
[19:35:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1064 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that's kind of my point. Valuable as a code audit of an AV package might be to check for backdoors, flaws, telemetry, etc., it's not really going to do anything to assure you that the software won't turn a blind eye to any government malware they've been forced to ignore. Even if you were to t...
[19:35:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:35:18] <exec> 08└─What you say makes sense for Joe and Bob, Programmers from the Garage. But if you already have a reasonable market for a product, that contract will have to be REALLY REALLY big to make it worth the while. Selling 200 extra copies to East Bangladesh is NOT that attractive. Neither are 2 AM Tech supp...
[19:36:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:04] <exec> 08└─I find your faith disturbing.
[19:36:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:06] <exec> 08└─Investigative journalism costs money. If you aren't willing to pay for it, for sure it won't happen.
[19:36:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:08] <exec> 08└─You're right! The media are committed to the narrative that Assad is the problem and attacking Syria ... is ... wait, how did that go again? I don't know which media you've been consuming, but I've seen an awful lot of stuff going around along the lines of: "We shouldn't have stayed in Afghanistan,...
[19:36:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:10] <exec> 08└─Don't lie, you fired at was basically an empty complex and did it to shut up all those neocons barking up your ass. I'm a U.S. Army intel private third class in the NSA, we have your house bugged, and we have the tapes of you grumbling to yourself, "Fucking Jews, Nixon was right about every goddamn...
[19:36:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:36:12] <exec> 08└─Thanks for Correcting the Record! er...
[19:38:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:43] <exec> 08└─^ found the Technical Thug SITUATION: OS upgrade. TECHNICAL THUG: Reads source code of new release, takes only what he likes. https://www.gnu.org [gnu.org]
[19:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:45] <exec> 08└─The failure mode for attempting to run a process with "invalid" credentials should NEVER be "run it as root".
[19:38:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:47] <exec> 08└─Sure, but that's effectively changed now. As systemd is so ingrained into linux, and pottering is in charge, if he decides that "usernames beginging with a number aren't valid", that makes them defacto invalid. Technically you're correct, but in practice mroe and more of systemd will refuse to work...
[19:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:38:49] <exec> 08└─The poor sanitary practices are reminiscent of those who stayed behind.
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[20:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:21] <exec> 08└─So the question becomes what soft spot did they push and how much did it cost to bypass this ban?
[20:33:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 1164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:22] <exec> 08└─Honestly, the first thing that went through my mind: further proof the USA has become unreliable as a travel destination. The one consistent thing about the current administration is that if you're travelling to the US, you do not know which rules will be in force once you touch down. Rules can chan...
[20:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:24] <exec> 08└─Not every country will be eligible for such facility. That is one place where "lubrication" is needed.
[20:33:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:44] <exec> 08└─"Weather report: Potwin, Kansas"
[20:33:46] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 98 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:46] <exec> 08└─Funny you say that considering that workplace safety wasn't even a thing until unions demanded it.
[20:33:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:48] <exec> 08└─Here in San Diego at a shipyard I was working at there was a navy vessel (don't recall if it was a DDG or a bigger fucker like an LSD or LHD) that had been lifted from the water on dry-dock to have work done on the screws (propellers) and around the keel. A welder welding a bolt on its screw didn't...
[20:33:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:50] <exec> 08└─I worked at a nuclear power station. During its entire life there was never a fatal accident. I never had an accident in all the years I was there. They had a "total safety culture" and it worked very well. A few years later I worked at a much smaller company making network storage hardware and I go...
[20:33:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:33:53] <exec> 08└─You're standing there, and suddenly a pool of molten lava surrounds your feet. Despite the agony, you know that you have to run away. But you can't, because your legs have stopped functioning.
[20:34:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:07] <exec> 08└─“The first programmer was a woman,” it was explained to me. “If [womyn-born-womyn] were in charge of programming, computers wouldn't have bugs.”
[20:34:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:09] <exec> 08└─Einstein [...] would always throw objects at his sister's head.
[20:34:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:34:22] <exec> 08└─Think of twitter this way. It ring fences people who find communicating in 140 characters at a time a reasonable thing into their own special little section of the internet. To put 140 characters into context, this brief response is 253 characters long.
[20:35:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Kaspersky Willing to Hand Source Code Over to U.S. Government - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:35:23] <exec> 08└─What if hostilities do break out? Americans who use Russian software and Russians who use American software are one malicious update away from being pwn3d.
[20:36:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:36:14] <exec> 08└─Oh I don't have any particular bit of faith. I just think the guy is speaking without being in possession of the facts.
[20:38:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:38:50] <exec> 08└─Software requirements specification met!
[20:39:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Palmer Luckey Donates to CrossVR Patreon - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:39:03] <exec> 08└─(11/4/13): Luckey reached out to Road to VR to clarify. “…I did back CastAR on day one myself… Supporting the VR industry and expanding my collection are both important,” he wrote. Where is your linked citation for this being Fake News?
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[21:33:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:17] <exec> 08└─What??? Not even a layoff? Only reassignment??? Without relocation???? Fuck your sensationalist non-news.
[21:33:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:18] <exec> 08└─I have really come to dislike all things indian. I don't feel I am a racist, but when most of your experiences with a race are negative, the sampling determines the learning. I suppose the indians felt the same way about the British, and by association all westerners.
[21:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:20] <exec> 08└─a) Find another job b) Quit on the spot c) Watch as the phone rings with "me ask you too describle how to do this!?" d) Give a shit and let it burn ;-) e) Enjoy the feeling! Of course you can always help out but time is soooo expensive nowadays :p
[21:33:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:22] <exec> 08└─a) Find another job
[21:33:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 1257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:25] <exec> 08└─Well actually the Indians are also being abused. It's a two way abuse. It's important to pay attention to the middle man. That's were the true abuse stem from. Indians don't seem bad in the true sense albeit there's some clueless around but that may be a selection bias. If H1B imports or anyone else...
[21:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03PartTimeZombie [4827] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:27] <exec> 08└─If you had RTFA you would see that these jobs are to be kept in Zurich for the next 12 months. These IT people will be Swiss, and have a job for the next year, giving them plenty of time to find another job. As the comment above stated, there will be plenty of phone calls along the lines of "How doe...
[21:33:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:29] <exec> 08└─I got transferred to HCL a few years ago. I documented my experiences over at the green site at the time. This comment is a placeholder. If I have time tomorrow I'll add some hopefully useful advice. Just remember Hanlon's Razor, and HCL are being engaged because they have sold the client a very goo...
[21:33:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:33:46] <exec> 08└─Hard to quit a work. But way easier to make another choice when the alternatives are with and without USA. After all when doing business predictability and efficiency are paramount.
[21:34:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:11] <exec> 08└─You paint a gruesome picture, but my guess (only a guess) is that you are overcome/rendered-unconscious by fumes before you have time to notice that you are trapped in solidifying slag. So you probably don't have time to consider the stupidity of contracting to do a dangerous job that comes without...
[21:34:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you're right. Enriching the corporate masters is a more important concern than human lives.
[21:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:15] <exec> 08└─If it weren't for unions, many of them indeed actual hardcore socialists, the reforms in workplace safety would never have happened in the first place. When you get to Hell there will be a big pot of molten slag waiting for you.
[21:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:33] <exec> 08└─This easily explains why business logic is hard. If the suits have not performed critical analysis, and if they aren't acquainted with all of the ramifications of their decisions, how on Earth could implementing their policies with a computer possibly help? Of course it's a complete recipe for disas...
[21:34:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:35] <exec> 08└─AC spelled "bated" correctly? Must be a young woman!
[21:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:38] <exec> 08└─F=Ma2
[21:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:40] <exec> 08└─Young women are expert mistressbaters.
[21:34:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:54] <exec> 08└─Big Finance has always been a casino rigged by the operators and big players. That it accidentally makes more common people rich is incidental. Besides, it's not like this is the first time it's happened. Pure economic voodoo.
[21:34:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Finance Sites Erroneously Show Amazon, Apple, Other Stocks Crashing - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:34:55] <exec> 08└─Twitter: When Facebook, Instagram, Pinterest, Tumblr, and Blogger aren't enough to validate your vanity.
[21:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:49] <exec> 08└─USA has thousands and thousands and thousands of miles of ocean to the east and the west. USA has a friendly nation to its north and south. I have mentioned previously [soylentnews.org] that to find someone with whom to pick a fight, USA has to go to the other side of the globe. When you have to go...
[21:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:51] <exec> 08└─62 BC? https://en.m.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[21:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 1893 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:36:53] <exec> 08└─Prof. Ted Postol has previously debunked the "effectiveness" of anti-missile Patriot missile batteries at destroying incoming warheads in the Middle East. (Zero were destroyed; all warheads launched by Iraq hit Allied territory and exploded on impact, most near their intended targets.) MIT Scientist...
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[22:33:24] <exec> 08└─If you know any good dirt about Credit Suisse, it seems like you should be able to leverage that into either: + a job with a competitor + whistle blowing about illegal practices The first choice is likely to be more lucrative, the second more gratifying...
[22:33:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:26] <exec> 08└─Doesn't matter if they were given a year or a day. They are still out of a job and those jobs are now permanently removed from the Swiss economy. Fuck those greedy cunts at the top.
[22:33:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:28] <exec> 08└─If they find a job again, it's not likely to be a tech job. If they don't find a job again, they'll be wishing they voted for basic income. In 2013, eight million 5-cent coins (one per inhabitant) were dumped on the Bundesplatz to support the popular initiative for a basic income. [wikimedia.org] In...
[22:33:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:33:30] <exec> 08└─As someone who got through exactly this about 6 years ago (HCL included), I can attest this is: a. indeed, not news. This is how HCL operates: "buys" an entire division b. over time, the bought unit will be starved of budgets to the point of bare survival, the original employees will start finding o...
[22:34:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:15] <exec> 08└─Yes. I must have been sundowning. [google.com] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[22:34:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:16] <exec> 08└─A single death is a tragedy; two deaths is a statistic.
[22:34:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:38] <exec> 08└─> ...any school child can do dimensional analysis. Really? I was never taught this important technique in grade school (at least not in enough depth that it stuck) and I went to a "highly rated" suburban school system, from 1960-1972. Now I often find young engineers that haven't learned it either.
[22:34:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Exploding the Myths of Ada Lovelace's Mathematics - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:34:39] <exec> 08└─When I studied physics in school, dimensional analysis wasn't something you were taught. It was something you just did if you wanted to pass the exams. Those who didn't figure out the basic concept of making sure the units matched up in equations were those students who simply failed.
[22:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:49] <exec> 08└─Reports of my death were greatly exaggerated.
[22:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:51] <exec> 08└─That's nice. It has nothing to do with what I said though.
[22:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Media Blackout of Seymour Hersh's Exposé on US Missile Strike Against Syria - 390 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:36:53] <exec> 08└─Bellingcat is a website that does analysis of a variety of military subjects. Elliot Higgins wrote up a piece on this. He has emailed some questions to Hersh but hasn't received answers. He doesn't consider Hersh's story to be very credible. Here's the link: https://www.bellingcat.com
[22:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:37:20] <exec> 08└─Yet another mediocre raspberry pi automation project. Is this hackaday?
[22:38:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] 02 - 06Linux systemd Gives Root Privileges to Invalid Usernames - 109 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:38:02] <exec> 08└─"default value, root" pretty much explains everything that is defective in the brains of those behind systemd
[22:39:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03n1 [993] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Former UK Bank Regulator Joins New Merged Bank Lobbying Group - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:39:59] <exec> 08└─It's unreasonable to expect board members of reserve banks to let their former and sometimes current employers go under... If they did, who would pay their speaking fees after they retire from 'public service'?
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[23:33:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06North Korea Claims Successful Test of InterContinental Ballistic Missile - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:17] <exec> 08└─I would like to hear Ethanol-Fueled's opinion on this topic.
[23:33:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06North Korea Claims Successful Test of InterContinental Ballistic Missile - 2 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:19] <exec> 08└─NK
[23:33:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06North Korea Claims Successful Test of InterContinental Ballistic Missile - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:21] <exec> 08└─Can we have HIM for once?
[23:33:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Credit Suisse Transfers IT Employees to Indian Company - 3433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:39] <exec> 08└─I was outsourced in 1999 only to have the outsourcer offshore the entire group one year later in 2000. Also with a different job in 2007 I was offshored. Both times I was able to get a new job in a short period of time and left before I fully trained my replacement(s). It doesn't matter... the chanc...
[23:33:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:58] <exec> 08└─Probably any country that wants it can have it. Most of the expense is paid by the US. (Do you think Aruba could afford this?) A lot of countries DON'T want it because it means a bunch of Americans all up in their business at airports. Some countries just say no, but they still have to clear passeng...
[23:33:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06U.S. Lifts Laptop Restriction for Flights from Abu Dhabi - 1189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:33:59] <exec> 08└─Shit man, I've been planning to live abroad for a big chunk of my life (slowly coming back from that bit of naivety these days). You should see what we have to do at the basic level [irs.gov] to get out of the USA if we want to remain responsible citizens. I have to wonder if being confused about tr...
[23:34:13] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mcgrew [701] 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 615 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:13] <exec> 08└─Industrial accidents kill people all the time, often horribly and usually due to management policies and mismanagement. My grandfather went four stories down a doorless elevator shaft. My dad witnessed an electrocution shortly before his retirement. When I worked at a copper factory for a few months...
[23:34:27] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 228 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:27] <exec> 08└─If it weren't for unions, many of them indeed actual hardcore socialists, the reforms in workplace safety would never have happened in the first place. When you get to Hell there will be a big pot of molten slag waiting for you.
[23:34:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:31] <exec> 08└─Huh? beyond the obviously corrupt source,
[23:34:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Workers Killed in Molten Slag Spill at Tampa, Florida Power Plant - 810 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:34:33] <exec> 08└─Thanks for that; I'd never heard of nor used the TECO editor... lol... just wow... from wikipedia. Highlights for me: "TECO does not really have syntax; each character in a program is an imperative command, dispatched to its corresponding routine. That routine may read further characters from the pr...
[23:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03BeaverCleaver [5841] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Brewing Beer With Linux, Python and a Raspberry Pi - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:37:37] <exec> 08└─Hasn't this already been done with the BrewPi project? https://www.brewpi.com [brewpi.com]
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