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[15:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 1297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:57] <exec> 08└─Not a bad bit of reporting. let me take a stab at a layman's summary: * one researcher has a theory, which he says is testable with today's equipment; if he's right, then light will be emitted by accelerating electrons at a predicted wavelength * another researcher says that the experiment will show...
[15:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:05] <exec> 08└─Someone is having financial problems and is circling the wagons... note they also ditched openstack a couple days ago. To some extent this kind of stuff is penny wise and pound foolish.
[15:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:07] <exec> 08└─Finally: Less marketing, and more engineering.
[15:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:09] <exec> 08└─Cuz, you know, we gots terrorists out there...
[15:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:11] <exec> 08└─http://www.pcworld.com/article/3190429/computers/intel-scraps-annual-idf-event-as-it-looks-beyond-pcs.html [pcworld.com] But with the PC market slowing down, the attraction of IDF has also dwindled. Intel's future isn't tied to PCs but instead to areas like data centers, autonomous cars, modems, the...
[15:46:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:13] <exec> 08└─Finally: Less marketing, and more engineering.
[15:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 702 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:16] <exec> 08└─last year, intel tried a huge marketing move: they sponsored the TBS reality tv show 'americas greatest makers' and it ran for about 8 episodes for season 1 (march of 2016). there was supposed to be a season2 this year but it seems it got canceled: https://en.wikipedia.org
[15:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:18] <exec> 08└─That's because their Management Engine [wikipedia.org] is the be all end all.
[15:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 1098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:20] <exec> 08└─Update 13:26 ET (Ian): I just got off the phone with Intel, discussing why IDF is being cancelled. The main reason I was given is that Intel has been changing rapidly over the last two-to-three years, especially as they are changing from a PC-centric company to a data-centric company. With the rise...
[15:46:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:29] <exec> 08└─that amounts to 355 additional patients whose lives could have been saved... That's because prediction often leads to prevention, Weng says, through cholesterol-lowering medication or changes in diet.
[15:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:31] <exec> 08└─I'll meet you midway. Enjoy your turkey "bacon".
[15:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:33] <exec> 08└─So apples and oranges... why would they sabotage their research thus? I think the answer to this question would certainly've deserved a spot in the summary.
[15:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:35] <exec> 08└─they're allowed to use more parameters. if they were allowed to use the same parameters, but yielded better results, that would be a big deal. as I understand it: right now, doctors have these guidelines, essentially a formula where you put in the values of different measurements, and out comes the...
[15:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:38] <exec> 08└─Probably similar to smoking. "You keep smoking those you're gonna die of lung cancer" "puff puff puff" It would be rather interesting to analyze the 355 borderline people. We're they gonna die of a massive one, or would just one little pill keep them going another 20 years? Maybe the neural network...
[15:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:40] <exec> 08└─See subject.
[15:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:53] <exec> 08└─Kill the billionaires.
[15:46:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:55] <exec> 08└─Is that the SN version of "let them eat cake?" Homeless? Just build your house on top of somebody else's house.
[15:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:57] <exec> 08└─Free Wi-Fi for the homeless! All that internet advertising will surely motivate them to just stop being poor and spend money. Blanket every underpass with signal! Get the google balloons flying! Anything and everything to connect every consumer to the avarice network! Greed will solve homelessness a...
[15:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 566 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:59] <exec> 08└─"Why don't they build up instead of out?" Because cities play games restricting development with zoning, institute rent control which makes new construction less able to pay off, etc. If people were free to build skyscrapers on their property in the city without local interference, and charge market...
[15:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:01] <exec> 08└─Having spent much time in a place with no zoning at all, I don't think that is is something you would like to live in. Besides having a narrow 45 story condo among single family homes, there is the traffic where the roads can't handle it and the excessive distance to mass transit. Then there is Toro...
[15:47:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:03] <exec> 08└─Free Wi-Fi for the homeless! All that internet advertising will surely motivate them to just stop being poor and spend money.
[15:47:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 974 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:06] <exec> 08└─I did not propose no zoning at all. But cities tend to want to close down all but the most politically connected development, even in a time when their people are suffering. In theory, if zoning were just used to select WHERE new development occurs, it could be okay. Housing shortages are a symptom...
[15:47:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 2098 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:08] <exec> 08└─Housing shortages are the result of many factors. It's not that governments are poor at judging, it's corruption. Often, everyone knows which choice is better for the people, but a few bribes can persuade officials to make a different choice. The bribes shouldn't be too blatant. Slipping a wad of ca...
[15:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:10] <exec> 08└─haven't been in the SF area for awhile now. Are any of the big tech companies building offices outside the city to serve all these people that are now living an hour or more away? Seems like workers would be a lot more productive if they didn't have to spend hours/day on the freeway.
[15:47:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 1638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:12] <exec> 08└─Are there any kind of controls would create fairly price housing for all? imho, there are two factors: - First, as another poster also comments, we have corruption. Politicians who pass regulations - not to ease housing - but to get kickbacks from developers who stand to make a buck. - Second, there...
[15:47:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:15] <exec> 08└─"California's Central Valley is best known for supplying nearly 25% of the country's food"? I find that difficult to believe considering the millions of acres of farmland in the non-arid/ non-mountainous regions in the rest of the country.
[15:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:17] <exec> 08└─The Salesforce Tower, now under construction in San Francisco, will be 70 m (217 feet) taller than the Transamerica building. It's an office building, but having offices in tall buildings makes a city more compact. abc7news.com/realestate/salesforce-tower-in-sf-becomes-tallest-building-on-west-coast...
[15:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:19] <exec> 08└─Are there any kind of controls would create fairly price housing for all? Birth control, though it'll take a while to be effective (a generation or 2, 3).
[15:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:21] <exec> 08└─Get the google balloons flying!
[15:47:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:23] <exec> 08└─Well corn, wheat, soy beans, are exported in mass from this country so maybe that is how they get that number.
[15:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:26] <exec> 08└─That may be measured by price rather than energy content. Fruits, nuts, vegetables and dairy products are produced there. Even so, it may be exaggerated. Circa 2007-2008, California "accounted for 17.6 percent of national receipts for crops" (page 1, numbered 17) and seven of the state's eight highe...
[15:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:28] <exec> 08└─Isn't it as simple as corporations externalizing the effects of workers needs to the surrounding society? Even if the market were free it would mess up their environment.
[15:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:30] <exec> 08└─About the corruption. When each government official takes some small benefit to make a poor decision, he/she rationalizes it that what it affects isn't really important in the large scale. It only affects this building or that parking lot, or some specific project like a park. The problem with that...
[15:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:32] <exec> 08└─Is that the SN version of "let them eat cake?" Homeless? Just build your house on top of somebody else's house.
[15:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:34] <exec> 08└─I grew up in Rancho Cordova in what was in the 1950's and 60's the great Central Valley boonies. and watched it turn into a light rail-connected 'burb of Sacramento. Post-Vietnam immigration earned it the nickname Rancho Cambodia. Nowadays the whole Sac Metro area is just low-income housing for the...
[15:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:37] <exec> 08└─but some people are more equal than others. (apologies to Orwell)
[15:47:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:39] <exec> 08└─Well, this is a Phoenix666 article. He likes to tack a snappy, completely pointless/wrong comment onto the end sometimes. Oh wow, this summary isn't even the first 4 paragraphs of the article verbatim.
[15:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 1446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:41] <exec> 08└─That phrase stuck out to me in the summary -- what precisely is "unlikely" about this kind of trend? Unless I'm missing something, this is the kind of story that has played out again and again when you have a successful booming white-collar business area that grows quickly. Housing eventually runs o...
[15:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:43] <exec> 08└─For an example of why not to build up, see Vancouver, Canada. People live there like rats in cages and only land developers are happy.
[15:47:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:45] <exec> 08└─Now I get you'd rather solve the problems by making housing affordable and decent jobs available to everyone, but that is not easily legislated. So in the meantime you suggest we let millions of people die in the streets? Tax funded "flophouses" are a part of being civilized now that we no longer li...
[15:47:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:54] <exec> 08└─If you ever wonder "What will we do with the humans that these robots replace?!", then there are too many humans. There is a surplus of humans; that is why human life is so cheap.
[15:47:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:56] <exec> 08└─I was going to rebut you, but then I thought: Who are these replaceable humans? They are humans that can be replaced by frickin' robots; they must not be that valuable to humanity.
[15:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:47:59] <exec> 08└─Delivery robot kicked into street by pedestrian shouting, "Get off my sidewalk!" Lawyers representing coalition of "tech" companies demand the death penalty.
[15:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:01] <exec> 08└─You are not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
[15:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:03] <exec> 08└─Society could probably do without the aggressors.* Society could probably do with a little more of the helpful robots. ----- * BTW, what was the aggressor's skin color?
[15:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:05] <exec> 08└─The worst. Angry white man.
[15:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:07] <exec> 08└─The aggressor was not a white man.
[15:48:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:10] <exec> 08└─The aggressor was not a white man.
[15:48:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:12] <exec> 08└─New Definition of DDoS: Distributed Denial of Sidewalk access I can just see it now. It's Super-Bowl Sunday. Half-Time. People launch their favorite app. Domino's, Papa John, Pizza Hut, ... you name it [huffingtonpost.com]. Fifteen minutes later, swarms of delivery bots take to sidewalks from all ar...
[15:48:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:14] <exec> 08└─No, the bullet/laser/robot-self-defence wounds indicate that the deceased was not white.
[15:48:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:16] <exec> 08└─So.. Walk *on* the robots (watch for drones) https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[15:48:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:18] <exec> 08└─Court ordered anger management classes are full of white men.
[15:48:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 505 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:21] <exec> 08└─I doubt it would ever get that bad, because these machines would be easy pickins for parts harvesters with a taste for pizza or what ever. Within a week they would all be sledge hammered hulks devoid of batteries and motors, with their tracking unit taped to the bottom of some random police car. We'...
[15:48:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:23] <exec> 08└─Half of the will lurk in the dark and rob the drones - thus have something to eat - the other will be hired as security so they'll have somewhere to sleep. One day... The next day, they'll just exchange places.
[15:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:25] <exec> 08└─A completely charred white was still white to begin with... but that's irrelevant anyway. MagnaVolt [youtube.com] - no embarrassing alarm noise, no need to call the police and it won't even run down your battery.
[15:48:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:27] <exec> 08└─Fifteen minutes later, swarms of delivery bots take to sidewalks from all around the city and arrive, en masse, on every high-rise residence in New York City. (And Boston. And San Francisco. And ... )
[15:48:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:29] <exec> 08└─Always worried me that the seat would smell, after the zap. Revolting. Here, have some History: https://m.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[15:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:31] <exec> 08└─Roborobb, taking all the stuff that the robot has ;) Next step, even robbers outsource to technology. Delivery robots that get robbed by.. well, robots.
[15:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:34] <exec> 08└─You can just use your hoverboard, Marty. Be careful over water though.
[15:48:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:42] <exec> 08└─This just means that the "consumer" car is not economically viable at present; indeed, there is just not enough Lithium available to make all the electric cars that could satisfy consumers-grade people profitably.
[15:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:44] <exec> 08└─There's plenty of lithium. Even though there is a little more cobalt in the Earth's crust than lithium it could be a problem. It's harder to get at and it has other valuable uses. Of course, we don't have to use cobalt in batteries.
[15:48:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03fnj [1654] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 1204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:47] <exec> 08└─There is plenty of gold too - all you could ever want (20 million tons) is dissolved in the oceans. Extracting it is a bit impractical though. There are dissenting opinions to lithium viability. A 2008 study concluded that "realistically achievable lithium carbonate production will be sufficient for...
[15:48:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:49] <exec> 08└─I can see it now! Greens, cruising in 1/4 ton pickup trucks, and when they come across some un-reconstructed fossil fuel user, time to "roll some photons", boyz! Yeah! 0-60 in how many secs, you mad, mad, enviro-racers? Or, we could just try to reduce our footprint, total travel infrastructure and...
[15:48:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 1063 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:51] <exec> 08└─At $9100 / ton, with 63 kg of Lithium in a common Tesla battery, the Lithium cost is about $575 for a Tesla battery. There's about the same cost in Graphite, and about $400 worth of Cobalt. Say $1500, on a $70,000 Model S, or a bit less on the Model 3. https://electrek.co
[15:48:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2, Troll) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 168 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:53] <exec> 08└─If most trucks are never going to see a dirt road or a construction site, they might as well be electric, since that's how so many women prefer their penis substitutes.
[15:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 701 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:55] <exec> 08└─The amount of gold in the Earth's crust is about one 10,000th of the amount of lithium. That make a huge difference in the cost of mining. It's even worse in sea water. All mining causes environmental problems, but solution mining of lithium causes relatively little. I suspect that, per pound, minin...
[15:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:48:58] <exec> 08└─If your 63 kg of lithium is from Electrek that appears to be lithium carbonate equivalent, at least according to the comments there.
[15:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:00] <exec> 08└─Electric semi-trailer - a full trailer, half of which is loaded with batteries.
[15:49:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 2749 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:02] <exec> 08└─How much energy is used to breakdown, remake, recycle, etc. a lithium battery? Again, the "zero emission electric car" is completely accurate while being completely misleading. The car emits nothing. But it's production, manufacture and maintenance cost just as much as anything else. There's no way...
[15:49:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:04] <exec> 08└─I can see the commercials now. Ranch-type guy in wide flat brim hat and LL Bean flannel shirt, looking thoughtfully out over the hills of the winery, taking a draw on an e-cigarette with a glass of organic Muscadet in the other hand, with a gravelly-voiced narrator overdub: "You work conscientiously...
[15:49:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 9 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:13] <exec> 08└─Who Knew?
[15:49:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Funny) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:15] <exec> 08└─Every Catholic is familiar with a negative mass.
[15:49:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:18] <exec> 08└─...and does it taste good? Asking for a friend.
[15:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:20] <exec> 08└─WTF, SN?
[15:49:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:22] <exec> 08└─Is this like when you have a digital weight and you're so fat your mass causes an integer overflow?
[15:49:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:24] <exec> 08└─If you create a time crystal out of negative mass material, did you know that a blue police box suddenly arrive? Article is a bunch of handwavy bullshit, just like time crystals and just like the title of this comment. What they appear to have actually created is a non-newtonian fluid out of a Bose...
[15:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:26] <exec> 08└─and it won the election
[15:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Funny) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:29] <exec> 08└─Every Catholic is familiar with a negative mass.
[15:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:31] <exec> 08└─... there's a whole HOST of examples.
[15:49:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:33] <exec> 08└─Now all we need is a bipolar genius who survives a world war, loses faith in humanity, and builds a warp ship because he has nothing to live for and nothing else to do. Despair is the motivator of invention.
[15:49:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 4, Insightful) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 1139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:35] <exec> 08└─What AC said. From TFA: He and his colleagues created the conditions for negative mass by cooling rubidium atoms to just a hair above absolute zero, creating what is known as a Bose-Einstein condensate. In this state, predicted by Satyendra Nath Bose and Albert Einstein, particles move extremely slo...
[15:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Soylentbob [6519] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:37] <exec> 08└─Despair is the motivator of invention.
[15:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:40] <exec> 08└─Look for small debris, I heard it pope.
[15:49:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:42] <exec> 08└─> if behaves as if it has negative mass. Does nobody notice the if (there is even 2 of them....)? It seems to me this is not really negative mass, it just behaves as negative mass would behave, seemingly because of some thermodynamic, but not gravitational, force. But perhaps a physicist can clarify...
[15:49:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snospar [5366] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:44] <exec> 08└─I was hoping for some cool material that would exhibit anti-gravity and end up stuck to the ceiling. They only managed to tick the "cool" box.
[15:49:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:46] <exec> 08└─We have a couple of negative masses here on SN, pushing others the wrong way.
[15:49:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:48] <exec> 08└─Yer momma...
[15:49:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:51] <exec> 08└─There's nothing intrinsically wrong with the negative mass, it's just that the containment field, or skull as I like to call it, sometimes develops cracks and lets stuff leak out.
[15:49:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:53] <exec> 08└─This has been known about liquid Helium for, well, since *I* was at school. Helium has a tendency to climb out of beakers... And it isn't "negative mass" no matter what the clickbait engine that is "sciencedaily" says - it would clearly float away.... I know that science fiction is cool, and that pe...
[15:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:55] <exec> 08└─I was hoping for some cool material that would exhibit anti-gravity and end up stuck to the ceiling.
[15:49:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 4036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:57] <exec> 08└─About 8 years ago PRL had an article titled "Mass of a Spin Vortex in a Bose-Einstein Condensate" https://arxiv.org [arxiv.org] might be somewhat enlightening. Its a theory paper from about 8 years ago which sounds similar to the experimental results. (Insert ridiculous levels of h...
[15:49:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:49:59] <exec> 08└─So no closer to the Alcubierre drive then.. Hopefully they succeed to get some data that can improve knowledge to accomplish it though.
[15:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:02] <exec> 08└─whoa, okay... so was that the blue crystal meth, then ? ??
[15:50:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:04] <exec> 08└─God, I hate "Internet experts."
[15:50:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:06] <exec> 08└─In theory, yes??? If we just plug a negative number into $f = \frac{G m_1 m_2}{r^2}$, we get a negative $f$ and thus acceleration out of a gravity well, right? So, your friend will weigh less, certainly, but he'll still be a fatass. :( You'll need to wait until there's something that can be digested...
[15:50:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:08] <exec> 08└─Well, it's a great way to get the Eugenics War started seeing as how we're 20-some-odd years behind schedule in this timeline!
[15:50:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:10] <exec> 08└─It is more subtle than you think. This isn't just an observation or restatement of superfluidity. It is a demonstration of negative effective mass by setting up a Bose-Einstein condensate such that they exhibit a negative dispersion relation, much like how metamaterials are set up such that they exh...
[15:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:20] <exec> 08└─You have a backdoor into my router that gets hijacked? I should be able to sue you for 7 figures. Likewise any other intrusion. Until that happens we are all vulnerable. / yeah, I understand folks like the NSA exist // but for fuck's sake, give us tech types a fighting chance /// We're all screwed i...
[15:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:22] <exec> 08└─We absolutely know how to build secure computer systems. We do for some very critical stuff, like the space shuttle. The thing is, we usually don't, because it's much cheaper, faster, and easier to build an insecure system and swear up and down that it's secure than it is to build a secure system. A...
[15:50:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:24] <exec> 08└─A secure system can only be secure from the ground up, and only as far as its users respect that security. The space shuttle had the benefit of being secured by the entire US military-industrial complex, and the astronauts were selected to be the very best of the very best of the very best :P There'...
[15:50:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:26] <exec> 08└─Aliens Gone Wild on Steroids: SLS Hacked Near Jovian Moon Europa
[15:50:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:29] <exec> 08└─A functioning market requires that there be consequences, whether negative or positive, for any given interaction. Society has become very poorly defined; nobody really understands who's liable anymore—and that includes a lack of appreciation for personal responsibility.
[15:50:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:31] <exec> 08└─I'm glad that this has been pointed out even in the article title. Basically, if a business is selling something, profit trumps all else. You wanna see security? Make it more expensive to leave it out.
[15:50:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:33] <exec> 08└─If you want to be called an "engineer" you should be legally liable for your product collapsing. Structural engineers don't stamp plans that are unsafe. Software "engineers" shouldn't be allowed to sign off on code that could even possibly be unsafe. If they do, they need to pay. Software is math. M...
[15:50:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:35] <exec> 08└─Well, as TFS says "The basic problem is that security never gets a high-enough priority." I also think software in general suffers from the German Disease. If one layer of abstraction is good, three, four, or five layers must be better. Pointless complexity expands the the number of attack surfaces....
[15:50:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:37] <exec> 08└─The obligations of the engineer or the client should not be one-size-fits-all; this "There should be a law!!111" cry is what makes life so abhorrently miserable for all of us. What you are identifying is the fact that our society is very poorly defined; nobody really has any clear idea what's going...
[15:50:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:40] <exec> 08└─And then the autistic screeching about coercion starts. Enjoy, everyone! Meanwhile, the rest of us need a society that works balancing physical reality with human psychology.
[15:50:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:42] <exec> 08└─Whatevs, Julianbo.
[15:50:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:44] <exec> 08└─We do now how to build secure systems. They are usually locked up, locked down and usable only by small amounts of trained people. It would seem that the large insecurity problem comes from the large general goods and consumer market, things are supposed to be cheap and easy to use. You are strippin...
[15:50:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:46] <exec> 08└─What there should be, then, is a more robust way for individuals to negotiate and enforce well-defined contracts, and to resolve disputes thereby.
[15:50:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:49] <exec> 08└─We do now how to build secure systems. They are usually locked up, locked down and usable only by small amounts of trained people. It would seem that the large insecurity problem comes from the large general goods and consumer market, things are supposed to be cheap and easy to use. You are strippin...
[15:50:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:51] <exec> 08└─There does not exist a robust means by which individuals can negotiation and enforce well defined contracts, or resolves disputes thereby. Users gladly agree to whatever. Thus, are they not to blame?
[15:50:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:53] <exec> 08└─There does not exist a robust means by which individuals can negotiation and enforce well defined contracts, or resolves disputes thereby. Users gladly agree to whatever. Thus, are they not to blame?
[15:50:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:55] <exec> 08└─Your urine allows very little in the way of communication.
[15:50:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:57] <exec> 08└─Pfft if I wanted protection from buffer overrun and data type misuse, I'd use managed VM languages like Java or C#.
[15:50:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03AnonTechie [2275] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:50:59] <exec> 08└─We absolutely know how to build secure computer systems. We do for some very critical stuff, like the space shuttle.
[15:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:02] <exec> 08└─I really, really wouldn't use mercola.com as a reference. It actively detracts from the credibility of what you are saying (and the contaminated blood-products story is worth saying). https://sciencebasedmedicine.org [sciencebasedmedicine.org] http://www.quackwatch.com
[15:51:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:04] <exec> 08└─I expect most modern software is far less than $50 per line, and is unlikely to be tested beyond simple functional testing (did not break/did not kill anyone), and is unlikely to be documented *at all*. IoT stuff is likely being coded for $0.50 per line. A "good" router, to NASA spec, would cost $10...
[15:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:06] <exec> 08└─I should be able to sue you for 7 figures.
[15:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:08] <exec> 08└─There is no declaration of security problems on the package. Nor can you return it if you discover it has a vulnerable version. And as a individual consumer. Your bargaining power is minuscule. Top it of with closed source code and undocumented hardware.
[15:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:11] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately someone decided corporations were a good idea - a legal construct designed specifically to shield everyone involved from any personal consequences except the accumulation of money.
[15:51:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:13] <exec> 08└─Thus, are they not to blame?
[15:51:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03idetuxs [2990] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:23] <exec> 08└─Currently, VPNs don't work :(
[15:51:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:25] <exec> 08└─They've been on a VPN/proxy blocking kick lately to answer your first question. To answer your second, yes, you can apparently download shows for offline viewing on at least some platforms now. Just started in the last few weeks.
[15:51:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:27] <exec> 08└─Sorry Netflix, we like you ... but Chairman Pai has decided to kill Net Neutrality. Data caps for non-ISP traffic are coming, and will kill you in your current form (your infrastructure could subcontract to the big ISPs, maybe). T'was nice knowing you.
[15:51:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03its_gonna_be_yuge! [6454] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:29] <exec> 08└─Kodi
[15:51:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 1077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:31] <exec> 08└─Correction: TVAddons [torrentfreak.com]. Streaming piracy is on the rise with popular media player Kodi at the center of attention. While Kodi itself is a neutral platform, millions of people use third-party addons to turn it into the ultimate pirate machine. TVAddons is of the largest repositories...
[15:51:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:33] <exec> 08└─I use smartflix and it works.
[15:51:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:36] <exec> 08└─Does this apply even if you setup your own VPN by colocation?
[15:51:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:38] <exec> 08└─Their VPN blocking isn't perfect. I'm not sure what it is based on, I'm guessing it is based on IP tracking, but my VPN to my home proxy currently seems to work.
[15:51:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Internet Pioneer Robert Taylor Dies - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:52] <exec> 08└─Well geez :( There's that and the fact that it lead us to a level of information availability that societies a few hundred years ago couldn't even imagine by their definition of omniscience at the time.
[15:51:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Internet Pioneer Robert Taylor Dies - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:53] <exec> 08└─You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian.
[15:51:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeKO [3672] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Internet Pioneer Robert Taylor Dies - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:51:55] <exec> 08└─I think you mean tumblr.
[15:52:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Marand [1081] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 615 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:11] <exec> 08└─Here's the github issue. [github.com] That's the only thing I've seen on the matter so far. Honestly there's not much to it: someone gave a matter-of-fact bug report, Poettering tried to claim it was consistent with "rm", and a few people pointed out that he has no clue how rm works. If Poettering h...
[15:52:12] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 513 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:12] <exec> 08└─The best part is the dipshit actually wonders why people are resistant to running his code on their computers. IT'S BLUNDERS LIKE THIS, MORON! This is some serious amateur hour bullshit. The dumbass doesn't even have a complete grasp of how a *nix system works, yet he's in charge of maintaining CRIT...
[15:52:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 30 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:15] <exec> 08└─Here's the fix: rm -rf systemd
[15:52:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 239 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:24] <exec> 08└─My first thought when reading the title was: Why on earth does an init system need its own implementation of rm? But then, this is systemd, the Borg init system. Probably I should be astonished if something has not yet been affected by it.
[15:52:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Soylentbob [6519] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 59 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:52:32] <exec> 08└─The link... [github.com] Sorry, missed it in the submission
[15:53:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03https [5248] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 587 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:09] <exec> 08└─He's allowed to continue because it brings Red Hat closer to their wet dream of nobody being able to run linux in an enterprise without needing their commercial support. Systemd quite literally has no design documentation, and it's been admitted that this is deliberate, that the APIs are a moving ta...
[15:53:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:29] <exec> 08└─Hillary Clinton and Poettering would make the perfect running mates, always blameless, always smarter, always better than everyone else in every way.
[15:53:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:30] <exec> 08└─Because you look like a psycho. Put the BT earpiece in as cover.
[15:53:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:33] <exec> 08└─My first thought when reading the title was: Why on earth does an init system need its own implementation of rm? But then, this is systemd, the Borg init system. Probably I should be astonished if something has not yet been affected by it.
[15:53:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:35] <exec> 08└─He departed to Goldman Sachs to fuck shit up there instead for 3+x the salary :)
[15:53:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:37] <exec> 08└─I think possibly before glibc 2 though, so maybe libc4 libc5 era. And I am not sure which rm implementation it was (maybe one used on an early version of Slackware?
[15:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:39] <exec> 08└─A "non-user", someone hiding behind a pseudonym as an Anonymous Coward, unlike our brave "tachyon" !
[15:53:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeVilla [5354] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 361 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:41] <exec> 08└─I've heard stories of Admins from the DOS/Win32 world who would be forced into the UNIX world and as root, on a system with root access over NFS would run: cd /tmp rm -rf *.* Actually it would be 'del -rf' because people would actually alias up del, dir, etc. And yes, once t...
[15:53:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:44] <exec> 08└─Be brave like me and sign up for an account.
[15:53:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:46] <exec> 08└─Well I, for one, am shocked that OP is throwing a tantrum like a little bitch instead of following through its loudly proclaimed threats to leave. I would say to not let the door hit you on the way out (not out of any concern for your well being, mind you, but more of an "avoid spreading AIDs in the...
[15:53:47] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 503 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:48] <exec> 08└─Definitely a bug. Utilities are supposed to descend only when given the recursive (-r) flag. Ascending is incorrect. Beyond being wrong based on the definition of the flag, ascending reduces the semantic expressiveness of the -r flag. If I actually WANT to recurse over the entire file system when it...
[15:53:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:50] <exec> 08└─If you really want it to ascend to / and then delete everything, just specify "-r /".
[15:53:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:52] <exec> 08└─Also to be clear I don't want systemd anymore . . . I loved it back when I thought it was meant only to be an async startup solution though. Siiiiiigh
[15:53:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:55] <exec> 08└─I can't do that, Dave.
[15:53:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:57] <exec> 08└─And nothing forbids doing something like: #!/bin/sh # Get common helpers . /lib/init-scripts DESC="A whatever daemon" EXEC="whatever.bin" OPTIONS="-x" RUN="once" KILLMODE="process" TYPE="notify" ALIAS="whatever.else" DEPENDS="foo,bar" PROVIDES="whatever" ETCETC="etcetc" # Just go with defaults scrip...
[15:53:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:53:59] <exec> 08└─Literally the first three top-level comments were about the lack of a link. WTF are you talking about
[15:54:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 3, Touché) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:02] <exec> 08└─And does rm_rf() call rm -rf or does it try to implement it internally?
[15:54:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:04] <exec> 08└─I would also add that the special handling of '..' is a very recent development, relatively speaking.
[15:54:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:06] <exec> 08└─He's more machine than man, now.
[15:54:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:08] <exec> 08└─Debian was the true disappointment for me. After that I also switched to systemd.
[15:54:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:10] <exec> 08└─It does not have its own rm. It has an internal command called R! that calls a function called rm_rf(). It is right there in the summary. This whole story is a big bag of nothing hyped by people who don't know what they are talking about. The fact that there was no link to the github issue in the su...
[15:54:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 858 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:39] <exec> 08└─I had to look up the A6 specification to actually figure out if that would be valid. I'm not 100% sure the leading 00 is required. For a /128 A6 chain (which is what you defined), I think its just the pure address. That being said, that's not how you're supposed to use A6. With A6, I'd define the /6...
[15:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:41] <exec> 08└─I use A6 records in real life, and yes, the prefix-length byte is mandatory. The two simplest use cases are: Prefix length 0. The A6 contains one IPv6 address. Equivalent to an AAAA record. Prefix length 128. The A6 contains one hostname. Equivalent to a CNAME record. Anywhere between these two extr...
[15:54:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:43] <exec> 08└─What actually resolves A6 though and A6 is marked as historic. (Serious question)? Is there any actual advantages of using A6? At best, I can put A6 recorders for the full 128 address but that provides no advantage over AAAA. If I use chains as intended, then actually making a DNS lookup over IPv6 r...
[15:54:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:45] <exec> 08└─There isn't any advantage. A6 just looks cool.
[15:54:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:54:47] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the tip to get to the A+. Something I will work towards. I recently got my score up to an A. April 2016, a year ago, I got my score from a B up to an A-. But I had a B prior to that without ever having checked SSL Labs or trying to get that B score. The sad story is that when I pointed ou...
[15:55:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Eyeing Mini Space Station in Lunar Orbit as Stepping Stone to Mars - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:33] <exec> 08└─Limit view point. Large warehouse. With base structure and power systems. You are ahead of the game. More sheilding gold foil anyone. Hell may even soft land on moon and bury it. Again many tons of hardware and space and power. Agile development?
[15:55:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Eyeing Mini Space Station in Lunar Orbit as Stepping Stone to Mars - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:35] <exec> 08└─I can just see the Martians laughing their asses off and saying "You came in that thing? You're braver than we thought" ;-D
[15:55:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Eyeing Mini Space Station in Lunar Orbit as Stepping Stone to Mars - 883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:37] <exec> 08└─Absolutely. My issue is not with NASA. NASA is an incredible agency that has and will continue to play a major (even if supporting) role in space. As mentioned they have no option whether or not to develop the SLS, and due to the petty nature of pork barrel politics they're also required to 'push' t...
[15:55:58] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 255 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:55:58] <exec> 08└─I suppose this will now be parsed by the media, which had been lampooning and scoffing at Trump's claims, that the TLAs weren't surveilling him, but rather his aide, which is totally different. And they wonder why their credibility has gone in the toilet.
[15:56:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 276 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:56:35] <exec> 08└─Words matter to English majors and "journalists." Nobody else gives a shit. They watch actions. And because so many of those running around exclaiming, "Trump lies!" are Hillary dead-enders, it bears pointing out that Hillary could not even tell the truth about having a cold.
[15:57:11] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03gawdonblue [412] 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 133 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:11] <exec> 08└─America cannot have policy decision making dictated by China or Russia, nor India nor any other foreign power. Israel won't allow it.
[15:57:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:25] <exec> 08└─We need actual details before we claim it is one thing or another. You calling it McCarthyism is just parroting a lying sociopath. So, how about we wait for actual facts to come out? Also, investigating the Trump administration is a very different thing than the overly broad witch hunt of McCarthy....
[15:57:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:26] <exec> 08└─Voting against the common good in exchange for corporate bribery.
[15:57:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 2057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:28] <exec> 08└─You are just so ignorant that nothing ever gets by you, Runaway. You are aiding and abetting enemies of the United States of America, which is neither here nor there for me, but didn't you take some oath or another at some point that would keep you from supporting a Trump administration, at pain of...
[15:57:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:30] <exec> 08└─Just because you see one person committing a crime that doesn't mean you can too.
[15:57:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:33] <exec> 08└─No. Maybe you could explain it to me. As I see it . . . People have impulses to do bad things. Some people give in to minor impulses, like steal a cookie when nobody is looking. Others give in to much worse impulses like robbery, rape, murder, etc. Government, of the people, creates laws against thi...
[15:57:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 592 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:35] <exec> 08└─> People are not inherently evil. We can simply disagree on that. You seem to think that maybe I am intolerant. I would hope my posting history shows otherwise. I frequently poke fun at discrimination. Especially that of the current administration. I would also hope that my posting history shows tha...
[15:57:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:37] <exec> 08└─I am just not an idiot so I ALSO don't like Trump and his corrupt politics. He's making us look like a bunch of idiots, and people like you make me wonder...
[15:57:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:39] <exec> 08└─Well, that's cheaper, easier, and more lucrative than the other thing. What was it called? Oh, yes, "reporting."
[15:57:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 1470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:41] <exec> 08└─You see the schedule of meetings that Bill and Hillary that the Scheduling Department (yes, the Clinton Foundation has a "Scheduling Department." Have you ever heard of a non-profit having a "Scheduling Department?") sends around in a daily, paper memo. Bill and Hillary are married, you see, so ther...
[15:57:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:44] <exec> 08└─This is a real stretch. Nobody cares about the person who loses an election. Just look at what happened with HUGE SCANDAL of the classified emails on her server. It was quietly forgotten. Even President "Lock-Her-Up-On-Day-One" Trump abruptly dropped the idea once the elections were over. The Clinto...
[15:57:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:46] <exec> 08└─The left still values the norms of journalistic standards, and a lack of standards is seen as a failure. Whereas the right sees it as feature.
[15:57:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:48] <exec> 08└─Well said.
[15:57:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Trump Aide Monitored by FBI, DOJ During Campaign - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:57:50] <exec> 08└─"How do you plead?" I plead that you shut your pie hole, cut out your tongue and cut off all of your fingers, give away all of your electronic devices, and move to some place out of the way, like, Bangladesh, or Ethiopia.
[15:58:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Buffooning Yourself: Are You Jargoning and Acronyming Your Audience to Death? - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:17] <exec> 08└─Only now, at the end, do I understand why VLM is a Nazi: he was there with the Telcos, back in the day. The movie, "The President's Analyst", starring James Coburn, lays it out quite well. Did you ever notice that in every country, everyone hates the phone company?
[15:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buffooning Yourself: Are You Jargoning and Acronyming Your Audience to Death? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:19] <exec> 08└─By the way, I'm all for "plain English" when it's appropriate.
[15:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Buffooning Yourself: Are You Jargoning and Acronyming Your Audience to Death? - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:21] <exec> 08└─"kek. I sent a snap of me and my bff in an uber, and some dbag sent me a twitter dm asking if we were dtf!"
[15:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Buffooning Yourself: Are You Jargoning and Acronyming Your Audience to Death? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:58:23] <exec> 08└─We're the phone company; we don't care. Couldn't resist that line, LOL.
[15:59:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:57] <exec> 08└─Why is that?
[15:59:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:59:58] <exec> 08└─Then it's up to you to show they accepted public funding to carry their day to day educational work.
[16:00:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:00] <exec> 08└─Have you actually read the editorial? If not you should, they're basically saying that speech should be countered with speech (and education). Free speech is not a one way street where one group can say whatever they want and the other group has to silently suck it up even though they don't agree. A...
[16:00:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:03] <exec> 08└─Other people's opinions on SoylentNews are none of your business.
[16:00:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:05] <exec> 08└─Hey, I didn't say we were doing a good job.
[16:00:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Canadian Leaders Moot Cannabis Legalisation - 864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:32] <exec> 08└─The courts will probably strike the roadside screening down again. Currently all the cops can do is ask the driver for his license and registration though they will take the opportunity to sniff and if smelling alcohol, the have a reasonable cause to test for impairment. I guess if there is a strong...
[16:00:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Canadian Leaders Moot Cannabis Legalisation - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:33] <exec> 08└─There is supposed to be a follow up law on edibles, probably including a ban on anything that looks too tempting to a kid. Currently here in BC where pot is almost defacto legal, the local governments look down heavily on stores selling baked goods on the theory that they're more inviting to kids. S...
[16:00:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Canadian Leaders Moot Cannabis Legalisation - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:00:35] <exec> 08└─Just bend them over. The growing part is stupid, it sounds like you can only grow indoor. I live in a small place in the forest, no room to grow inside and where I grow outside is shady so I encourage the plants to grow tall (and they're spindly). Also to end up with 4 plants means planting a dozen,...
[16:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Slavery Alleged at U.S. Immigrant Detention Centres - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:01] <exec> 08└─It's more subtle than that. In a society with no welfare system 'safety net', you work or you die, but we wouldn't call that slavery exactly.
[16:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Slavery Alleged at U.S. Immigrant Detention Centres - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:03] <exec> 08└─So righteous you feel the need to post as AC, huh? No. You're fully aware you're just being an asshole. (I'm really no good at ignoring trolls.)
[16:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Slavery Alleged at U.S. Immigrant Detention Centres - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:05] <exec> 08└─Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse. If you're physically prevented from leaving and seeking other employment it's slavery.
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[16:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:52] <exec> 08└─I get regular emails from them for all sorts of wonderful things they can do for me. I keep going into my account an making sure all the email prefs are unchecked, but they apparently ignore those settings.
[16:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Interesting) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:54] <exec> 08└─On one of my older gmail addresses that gets lots of spam I've seen this happen 3 times. I would say they are not verifying emails at all. On the first, I did forgot password to get into the account and closed it myself. On the 2nd I called paypal to tell them to close it and to complain. On the 3rd...
[16:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:56] <exec> 08└─You have a paypal account? Ha, ha. That's your problem, right there.
[16:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:45:58] <exec> 08└─I've had a paypal account since the late 90s and I don't get that crap.
[16:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 1254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:01] <exec> 08└─Like AC, above, I've had Paypal for a long time. I guess it was 2002 or so when I started the account. I almost never hear from them. When I make a purchase using Paypal, it goes through. I get a periodic email, "your account is available for review online at wwwwhatever". Once, I got an email inqui...
[16:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:03] <exec> 08└─Kind of difficult to buy or sell on eBay without one. I remember when you could send money orders directly to the seller. Then eBay bought PayPal and made them the only option. People tried to use Google Wallet on auctions but eBay would cancel them.
[16:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:24] <exec> 08└─Note however that Indians and others they hire by importing cheap labor don't quite count as “diversity.” Tech will remain a career choice that only racists and sexists make. As much as I love learning new languages and cultures, if it's sending wages going down and doing nothing about the Narra...
[16:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03epitaxial [3165] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:26] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah Intel is dying. Sure. I will be on the lookout for their chapter 11 notice.
[16:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06AI Beats Doctors at Predicting Heart Attacks - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:46:39] <exec> 08└─Turkey bacon is ok. What about organic, free-range, "uncured" (which actually means cured with celery juice [healthline.com]) bacon? If I buy my "uncured" bacon from Whole Foods, does that give me a hipster aura with a +10 buff against cardiac disease?
[16:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 232 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:19] <exec> 08└─- Second, there is the problem that governments are slow and regulations always accumulate. That well-intentioned regulation put in place today addresses problems from 10 years ago, and will still be in place 30 years in the future.
[16:47:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:20] <exec> 08└─Been done before [imdb.com].
[16:47:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:22] <exec> 08└─That depends on how you define shortage. Would there be a place for everyone with the cash? Yes. Would there be a place affordable to the many people working regular jobs that a city needs done? Not by a longshot. There'd be tent cities next to half empty condos.
[16:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:24] <exec> 08└─Are there any kind of controls would create fairly price housing for all?
[16:47:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:47:27] <exec> 08└─Why? Is two half-empty condos somehow more profitable than one full condo and one budget apartment tower?
[16:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:10] <exec> 08└─Again, the "zero emission electric car" is completely accurate while being completely misleading. The car emits nothing. But it's production, manufacture and maintenance cost just as much as anything else.
[16:48:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:48:45] <exec> 08└─It may make you cross, but keep monkeying around and you'll find it.
[16:49:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:49:19] <exec> 08└─I really, really wouldn't use mercola.com as a reference. It actively detracts from the credibility of what you are saying (and the contaminated blood-products story is worth saying).
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[17:46:04] <exec> 08└─It's pronounced 'nookular' [youtube.com]
[17:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 779 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:17] <exec> 08└─Likely these messages only come to people who don't already have a paypal account tied to their email. And now that makes me think, in addition to being a way for a malicious user to use a paypal account not tied to the email it could also be a way for them to try and get money destined to other peo...
[17:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:18] <exec> 08└─Then don't use ebay if it requires to use scammers like paypal.
[17:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:21] <exec> 08└─Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses?
[17:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:46:23] <exec> 08└─I recently had to deal with paypal for the first time I can remember. I have a very old ebay account that I use rarely and I used it to buy someone a few months ago. Product was broken and I returned it. Due to some bank error, between the purchase and return my card had been cancelled. Ebay refunde...
[17:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:43] <exec> 08└─"the city" is now 100 miles around the SF Bay rents are $2000-$3000 a month pretty much everywhere now. typical commutes are over an hour, it isn't uncommon for two hours for people coming in from Tracy. they have been tearing down blocks of 1 story tilt-ups, replacing them with six story office bui...
[17:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:44] <exec> 08└─San Francisco may be even worse: [...] Vancouver is the fourth most densely populated city in North America behind New York City, San Francisco, and Mexico City [...]
[17:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 1250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:46] <exec> 08└─The first reason is that politicians will use this as an excuse to import the 3rd world. Democrats think they will get votes, and everybody thinks that businesses will get slave-like workers. (actually the votes ultimately go toward denying rights to women and LGBT, and the immigrants tend to end up...
[17:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:49] <exec> 08└─This is what England did. We can send people to Africa, or the Middle East, or South America. Someday we can ship them off to Mars. The alternative is seen in Futurama and Soylent Green: we set up suicide booths and/or suicide centers. So... how about them colonies?
[17:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:51] <exec> 08└─If you think it's about productivity, you're missing the point. Case in point: open office environments.
[17:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:53] <exec> 08└─"Why? Is two half-empty condos somehow more profitable than one full condo and one budget apartment tower? " I suspect the problem is that the value of the condo is expected to decrease if there is a budget apartment tower nearby.
[17:47:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:55] <exec> 08└─Part of the problem is that the taxes that support California's already very generous welfare system make it even harder for average people to stay housed. If the income tax code was a little more progressive it might help. I don't imagine very many hipsters will bug out for Seattle over a few Starb...
[17:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 2436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:47:58] <exec> 08└─I live in a city about halfway between LA and SF and it's a microcosm of SV, complete with our own little technology industry. It's virtually impossible to buy a home for a young person, even a young couple. Forget about something big enough to have a family. Even renting is hard without roommates....
[17:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:00] <exec> 08└─I do wonder about the wisdom in building tall buildings on the San Andreas Fault. As for Patterson, maybe the huge Amazon Fulfillment Center there has more to do with increased rents than commuters driving to the Bay area every day. Also the CVS Distribution Center, the Grainger Distribution Center...
[17:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:02] <exec> 08└─If you submit more, I submit less. It's that simple.
[17:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:29] <exec> 08└─That works. May I add: I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need.... We've all been raised on television...
[17:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:48:31] <exec> 08└─That's odd. The only times somebody started waving a rifle in my direction because he didn't want me on "his" sidewalk, it was a white man. I guess what's even more baffling is that I'm white, too. Must be a midwest thing to assume that anybody who isn't over 6' tall is a teenager up to no good. May...
[17:49:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02 - 06Physicists Create 'Negative Mass' - 1139 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:49:07] <exec> 08└─What AC said. From TFA: He and his colleagues created the conditions for negative mass by cooling rubidium atoms to just a hair above absolute zero, creating what is known as a Bose-Einstein condensate. In this state, predicted by Satyendra Nath Bose and Albert Einstein, particles move extremely slo...
[17:57:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:57:52] <exec> 08└─"The U.S. is running out of bombs to drop on ISIS [^w random people]": http://www.cnn.com [cnn.com] "America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign" https://www.theguardian.com
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[18:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:57] <exec> 08└─... it's hyperbolic metaphor! I got a solution! Fuck every Thing. Fuck them all to death!
[18:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:45:59] <exec> 08└─All of your IoT are belong to me, including those personal pleasure IoT devices. W-w-w-whoopee!
[18:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:01] <exec> 08└─From the bottom of the SoylentNews page: Luke, I'm yer father, eh. Come over to the dark side, you hoser. -- Dave Thomas, "Strange Brew"
[18:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:19] <exec> 08└─I recently had to deal with paypal for the first time I can remember. I have a very old ebay account that I use rarely and I used it to buy someone a few months ago.
[18:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:20] <exec> 08└─Paypal allows you to add additional email addresses, it is possible that the secondary email addresses are not confirmed when added. You can use both primary and secondary email addresses as the userID for purposes of signing in.
[18:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 4, Interesting) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 2600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:22] <exec> 08└─Happens all the time. I have a name that's quite common in Ireland, and I own myname@gmail.com, have had since GMail Beta was a limited signup. About once or twice a year, I get someone sign up for paypal with - say - my.name@gmail.com, which obviously comes to me too. They don't realise that's not...
[18:46:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:25] <exec> 08└─Clarification: By "spam them", I mean "put the email in spam"!
[18:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 839 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:46:27] <exec> 08└─There could be a technical solution - not allow them to charge their cards until they have proven they control the email address by clicking the link in the first "Welcome to " email. Also, not allow them to even view the full information they may have provided when they configured the account, unti...
[18:47:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 1446 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:41] <exec> 08└─That phrase stuck out to me in the summary -- what precisely is "unlikely" about this kind of trend? Unless I'm missing something, this is the kind of story that has played out again and again when you have a successful booming white-collar business area that grows quickly. Housing eventually runs o...
[18:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 901 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:47:59] <exec> 08└─Well that is the point. I have lived in the Bay Area, in Livermore and Fremont, and I live in Brooklyn now. The Bay Area's real estate prices are crazy out of control, and it doesn't have to be that way. The population density there is nowhere near what it is in NYC (inner core of SF notwithstanding...
[18:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 674 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:01] <exec> 08└─I recall an article in the San Jose Mercury News circa 2000 CE about a full-time public school teacher living in a homeless shelter because he couldn't afford housing in San Jose. At the same time, a colleague at a tech firm in Redwood City lived three hours east of the office and had a hellish comm...
[18:48:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 1457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:03] <exec> 08└─TFA talks about tech workers displacing other people and creating a burgeoning homeless population on the periphery of the Bay Area, but I don't know that things are all that rosy for the tech workers either. I don't have any data from studies at my fingertips, but we visited some of my wife's relat...
[18:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:05] <exec> 08└─There are a lot of ways they could be arriving at that figure, but even if we're talking gross tonnage it's not outside the realm of possibility. California is an immense state. The Central Valley is a well-oiled machine of agro-business. Truck farms, orchards, animal husbandry. They have a long gro...
[18:48:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:08] <exec> 08└─How far will that one lean [npr.org]? it's not only the San Andreas that's a problem, there's also the shitty ground quality and liquefaction risks...
[18:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:36] <exec> 08└─Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take this pizza down to the bridge. Call that job satisfaction? 'Cos I don't.
[18:48:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:37] <exec> 08└─So the first place this will be tried is in very densely populated urban cores. So lets send a very valuable robot loaded with instantly usable products, including hot food with fragrant aromas wafting from it, down streets packed with hungry homeless people, vibrant diversity and police who can be...
[18:48:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:40] <exec> 08└─The shadow on the face of the sun is the predator drone waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting wheeled prey and carry it away to its nest to be consumed.
[18:48:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:48:59] <exec> 08└─I believe GP was trying to create some kind of moral equivalence between petrol and battery in order to argue that batteries are either no more "green" than petrol or are less "green" than petrol. Thanks for ruining that with your facts and reasoning!
[18:50:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:50:08] <exec> 08└─A "good" router, to NASA spec, would cost $10,000,000. Alas, everyone goes and buys the $200 model.
[18:50:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:50:10] <exec> 08└─An excellent point. In the enterprise world, the level of security is only worth the value of the assets being protected. This is generally a pretty simple cost/benefit analysis, with resources being allotted to security proportionately.
[18:53:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:53:07] <exec> 08└─The max limit for IIS is A due to lack of support for TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV (I ran into this with a customer recently). You could get rid of the DROWN problems by rekeying your servers you contract.
[18:53:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:53:08] <exec> 08└─... for that reason alone I'm sorta tempted to add them :)
[18:53:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06NASA Eyeing Mini Space Station in Lunar Orbit as Stepping Stone to Mars - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:53:58] <exec> 08└─A space elevator won't work in the traditional sense, because the moon is tidally locked to the earth. A space elevator normally elevates to the point where geosynchronous orbital velocity is obtained. Due to the tidal locking, there is no such point on the moon.
[18:58:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:05] <exec> 08└─The implication is that it is not an opinion if you do not believe it to be true. But yes, I was assuming that people change their opinions in the face of contrary evidence. The opposite is actually true: people tend to hold their opinions more strongly in the face of contrary evidence.
[18:58:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wellesley College Student Newspaper Ignites Free-Speech Debate - 1214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:58:07] <exec> 08└─No. Sometimes power-hungry people spread lies because they know it will get their rivals hurt of killed. The genocide took place in the context of the Rwandan Civil War, an ongoing conflict beginning in 1990 between the Hutu-led government and the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF), which largely consist...
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[19:45:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:51] <exec> 08└─expose those mice to a bigger population of mice and see what happens... ...does this 'approach' cause the other mice to become super resistant to viruses... do their viruses become super resistant? Do THEIR super resistan viruses become SUPER-ORANGE-SMALL-HAND-RESISTANT to EVERYTHING........ Will t...
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[19:45:53] <exec> 08└─frist post!@!!OMG!!@!@@!@ OOOOOMMMMMGGGGGG!!!
[19:45:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Offtopic) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:45:55] <exec> 08└─This one time, at SN camp, a dude got so frucking drunk, he sucked his own duck;
[19:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:06] <exec> 08└─I prefer 'Nookie u n me'. Wait... are you female? If not, yeah, nookular is fine. Yuuuuup!
[19:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:08] <exec> 08└─Canadians! Socialized medicine, but no mental health care?
[19:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:10] <exec> 08└─+1, Ramblings of a madman
[19:46:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:12] <exec> 08└─How did we survive without a mouse in our beer bottle? (and can you still get a free case of beer for this???)
[19:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 732 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:15] <exec> 08└─Before the internet we had radio. In July. Why? That doesn’t make any sense. Sorry. There’s no known way of saying an English sentence in which you begin a sentence with “in” and emphasize it. Get me a jury and show me how you can say “in July” and I’ll… go down on you. That’s just...
[19:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:17] <exec> 08└─I exclusively use remote-controlled light bulbs which can only be tampered with using a physical-access attack at the AC or switch layer. Some of them don't even require our pretty weak system key. Burn, IoT, burn! My microwave doesn't have a camera, so i'll keep having popcorn!
[19:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:19] <exec> 08└─AC rush kekekekekeke
[19:46:37] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 2600 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:37] <exec> 08└─Happens all the time. I have a name that's quite common in Ireland, and I own myname@gmail.com, have had since GMail Beta was a limited signup. About once or twice a year, I get someone sign up for paypal with - say - my.name@gmail.com, which obviously comes to me too. They don't realise that's not...
[19:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:41] <exec> 08└─Knowing then, what I know of Paypal today, I probably wouldn't open an account with them.
[19:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:43] <exec> 08└─Okay. So they send me an email by mistake when they create an account with the wrong address. I "verify" it for them. They don't necessarily even realise that I've even done that, if I leave it a few minutes, they'll just think they were finally successful at verifying things and start adding in cre...
[19:46:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:45] <exec> 08└─I was wondering how much for the little girl? Sell them to me! Sell me your children, bwahahah! /Blues Brothers off
[19:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:46:54] <exec> 08└─Or in short, science as it is meant to be: An experiment decides a disagreement between theorists.
[19:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Fibrosis Reversed When "Don't Eat Me" Signal Blocked, Study Finds - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:47:31] <exec> 08└─Cardiac fibrosis is another example where it may be useful to use the therapy off-label (if it passes clinical trials). Inhibiting fibrosis may also be useful for superficial reasons such as reducing scar formation after surgery (especially plastic surgery). https://en.wikipedia.org
[19:48:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:25] <exec> 08└─Not that simple, sadly. If you build up wildly, you'd better outlaw cars and use all the roads for public transport. People need to move around. The denser you make the city, the less people can move, and therefore the less they can breathe, or be rescued when they stop breathing. "I own this land,...
[19:48:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RoxTeddy [6500] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:48:57] <exec> 08└─Free transportation, just hop on one going your way
[19:49:10] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bob_super [1357] 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 168 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:49:10] <exec> 08└─If most trucks are never going to see a dirt road or a construction site, they might as well be electric, since that's how so many women prefer their penis substitutes.
[19:50:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:50:28] <exec> 08└─If you want to be called an "engineer" you should be legally liable for your product collapsing. Structural engineers don't stamp plans that are unsafe. Software "engineers" shouldn't be allowed to sign off on code that could even possibly be unsafe. If they do, they need to pay.
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[20:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:47] <exec> 08└─Nice try. I've read that book too. The protagonist of Fat Men From Space by Daniel Pinkwater has a dental filling that can act as a radio receiver. The problem of changing stations is handwaved by him being able to do so using different pieces of metal as an antenna. The plot of the book gets kicked...
[20:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:49] <exec> 08└─I've been in some high RF environments and many KW doesn't do much to natural stuff other than smell ozone sometimes. Electronic stuff will get weird of course. I'm just saying the meteors aren't making nearly as much power...
[20:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:59] <exec> 08└─This is definitely cool, and great approach.
[20:46:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 1120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:00] <exec> 08└─i dont know, but i believe these viruses are called "bacteriophages"? also it is short sighted to say "attack and kill bacteria" when in reality they "eat" blond small handed bacteria to make more chinese viruses. tho there is a dispute if a non living entity like a virus is alive and thus can eat ....
[20:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:02] <exec> 08└─The initial post shouldn't be marked offtopic...
[20:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:21] <exec> 08└─Burn, IoT, burn! My microwave doesn't have a camera, so i'll keep having popcorn!
[20:46:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:22] <exec> 08└─Before the remote control tv, we had to change the channels WITH OUR TOES!! IN JUNE!!! But still she wanted me. She dripped coffee all over her table cloths (made of cotton and some twizzle sticks), which she cleaned up with her cat. And all this, in June. So there. Beat that, with a blade of gr...
[20:46:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:48] <exec> 08└─Not quite right. the problem here is that it is allowing account creation without clicking the verification link. I've seen it done with my email no less than 3 times, and I know for certain I never clicked the link, yet the account got created and used just fine. I took control of two of them with...
[20:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:50] <exec> 08└─Isn't what you describe exactly what would happen if someone were to do what I said, but to you?
[20:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:00] <exec> 08└─Or in short, science as it is meant to be: An experiment decides a disagreement between theorists.
[20:47:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:18] <exec> 08└─They absolutely *are* dying. The question is: how fast? A newborn baby is also dying, after all, but it'll likely take nearly a century for the baby to finally kick the bucket. IBM has been "dying" for a long time; they were dying when I was a kid and they had those disastrous PS/2 computers. I'm st...
[20:48:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:33] <exec> 08└─In some cases, yes. If they start renting at affordable rates, the tenants paying more won't be willing to put up with the next rent hike. They'll all wait for the other guy to blink. And all will fear missing out on the big spender if they fill up with commoners.
[20:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 930 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:34] <exec> 08└─This sounds like something the free market should be able to solve, in theory, in a way: (warning: this does strain the definition of "free market") As the OP to your post said, it'd be better if zoning were controlled at the state level, so that self-interested property owners wouldn't have as much...
[20:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:07] <exec> 08└─See: US Public Education
[20:49:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 797 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:08] <exec> 08└─They walk quite well on two legs, can drive vehicles with full autonomy, have excellent communication skills and dynamic crisis avoidance systems. Humans! With the modern day plague of technology I think this quote is more applicable than ever: "Our technological abilities are not apparent because w...
[20:49:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03KilroySmith [2113] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:29] <exec> 08└─Thanks, I'll remember that.
[20:51:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 168 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:35] <exec> 08└─One should wonder when he will get bored with systemd, moving on and leaving others to deal with the mess. That could seem like a blessing, but then what will he break?
[20:52:28] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Soylentbob [6519] 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 41 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:29] <exec> 08└─Can we get a "+1 Not Funny" vote, please?
[20:53:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:39] <exec> 08└─Thank goodness that I never have and hopefully never will run IIS. But it is amusing to know that.
[20:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:40] <exec> 08└─The DROWN issue was that several products, including the one I work on, share a wildcard cert. Thus share the same private key. Some servers that I don't control were vulnerable to DROWN. I discovered it immediately when DROWN became news, and sent it up the chain of command. Things happened quickly...
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[21:45:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:43] <exec> 08└─so ... basically, normal approved science says that if a square kilometer cube of meteroid falling away from the heavenly skies to fill snug into some square earthly county, then, even 1 cm before impact, the surface would know nothing of the imminent desaster? or even 1 mm? the study suggests that...
[21:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:45] <exec> 08└─hiss as they arc through the night sky
[21:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:47] <exec> 08└─I assume you're aware of what you've been smoking.
[21:45:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:49] <exec> 08└─I have heard a meteor and I have heard a snake. They do not sound alike.
[21:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:51] <exec> 08└─It's not just a matter of the power. It's a matter of the spectrum. When you were in the high RF environment, how much of the power was in the 20Hz-20KHz range?
[21:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:45:54] <exec> 08└─So, even after I bother to paint my meteor black, and shove it in the right orbit, I'd also need to put an EMI shield on it to be sure it won't get detected too early? Come on, guys! Give me a break, it should work anyway. The guys from DC are typically actively ignoring any change in the atmosphere...
[21:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:07] <exec> 08└─I think your first paragraph is the well known "The CIA created AIDS to kill all the Africans". The second question about string theory is it never got past the speculative math theory world, can't find anything that is testable, very "how many angels dance on a head of pin" type of thing so they've...
[21:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 911 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:27] <exec> 08└─Speaking of burning devices I was mildly annoyed that my "high power" LED bulb in my garage door opener burnt out after about 2 years of use last week and I replaced it and I guess I'm out $10 which kinda sucks because originally LEDs were sold as "sure they cost 10 times as much as old bulbs but th...
[21:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:29] <exec> 08└─"high power" LED bulb in my garage door opener burnt out after about 2 years of use
[21:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:31] <exec> 08└─in this article "in" was empahized ! or ?
[21:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:33] <exec> 08└─I think thermal shock killed it as we're nowhere near peak summer temps. Just one too many temp cycles. Which is what kills most old fashioned bulbs too...
[21:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:35] <exec> 08└─I think Gaaark is trying to buffer overflow us so we end up blinking SOS like the article. Who knows might work. I can't believe Snow Crash was published in '92 and thats getting to be a long time ago. And yes, Snow Crash is on topic, although in the article I think they used a more modern exploit t...
[21:46:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:37] <exec> 08└─this is an old article. the factory can make "faulty" lightbulbs faster then you can hide your very obvious smirk from the violated neighborhood. meaning, people dont care if you can hack their very convinent lightbuob, because the argument at your trial will be: how does this make YOUR life better...
[21:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:40] <exec> 08└─Yep, you can blink the LED components at tens of kiloHertz for decades, but the power supply in consumer-grade bulbs has an MTBF of a year or two... I have two cheap LED bulbs in two bedrooms, and turning them both on causes them to flicker. Great job covering EMC/EMI, Mr cheap Chinese manufacturer...
[21:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:06] <exec> 08└─"The fix, of course, is not technical. Make sure you have the right email. If you bought loads of stuff but accidentally put the wrong postal address down, you'd soon notice, and it's quite possible that the person at that other address will happily take all your ordered goods and claim they never s...
[21:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:08] <exec> 08└─I was wondering how much for the little girl? Sell them to me! Sell me your children, bwahahah! /Blues Brothers off
[21:47:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming use Account Email Addresses? - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:10] <exec> 08└─Unless the verification link requires the user to type the password (which they've already set during creation); since the wrong-email recipient doesn't know the password, they can't verify it. You can use a cookie in lieu of the password, to make it easier on the user in the common case where the s...
[21:47:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:36] <exec> 08└─We could declare Intel practically dead for all reasonable purposes when the average joe on the street says "huh?" when asked about Intel but knows all about the Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU in his phone.
[21:49:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03WalksOnDirt [5854] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Elon Musk Says Tesla Pickup and Semi-Trucks Are Coming - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:49:47] <exec> 08└─"mass production of lithium carbonate is not environmentally sound, it will cause irreparable ecological damage to ecosystems that should be protected and that LiIon propulsion is incompatible with the notion of the 'Green Car'". (lifted right out of Wikipedia).
[21:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 2714 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:00] <exec> 08└─Nice! I'm happy to see you changing it up a bit, and so far no downmod! There are times when society should create laws to protect against malfeasance. Public roads / bridges / other infrastructure should be held to a high safety standard, and that is only possible by creating a law with clear requi...
[21:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 910 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:01] <exec> 08└─Internet connected software is like building a bridge where people are driving over it in a completely lawless fashion. They can ignore every warning on the bridge. Weight limits, speed limits, you name it. They can decide to do "bridge research" by jamming 1,000,000 cars into the entrance at once j...
[21:51:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 1075 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I'm seeing more and more projects go the route of massive dependency injections. Updating becomes a hellscape of version control, and packages that worked before no longer work well with some other required package, etc. Short term productivity gains are preferred over long term stability and...
[21:51:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 752 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:06] <exec> 08└─Which would have been trivially solved if every individual was able to negotiate their own contracts with... Oh who am I kidding, how would that possibly have stopped this problem? "I'm sorry but you didn't sign up for the premium plan which costs only 5000% more so we're not liable for tainted prod...
[21:51:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why the Cyber Insecurity Problem Won't be Resolved by the Market Alone - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:08] <exec> 08└─A clear example of why we need publicly funded police (discourage crime) and legislation to require software security. If left up to spreadsheets we should kill off the vast majority of human beings instead of trying to fix our systemic issues. Bean counters are the worst and should be sent to the b...
[21:51:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Netflix Looks Beyond US as Competition Mounts - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:26] <exec> 08└─My theory is that if the same IP range is shared by many "VPN'ers" then they will eventually learn about it and plug the hole. If instead the IP address or range is for your private. There aren't other users who can give it away. It's like.. hmm 50 subscribers to this IP in the middle of the night i...
[21:51:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Internet Pioneer Robert Taylor Dies - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:43] <exec> 08└─While working at the Pentagon in the 1960s, he instigated the creation of Arpanet - a computer network that initially linked together four US research centres, and later evolved into the internet.
[21:53:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Systemd-implementation of "rm -rf" Buggy, Could Erase Root Partition - 1297 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:02] <exec> 08└─I hope he isn't reading this, because I hate to give him ideas, but... First you take the interpretation out of the kernel. Let's say we justify this by solving the problem of a music player having access to your spreadsheets; they should be isolated. So we put each process in a different namespace,...
[21:54:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 500 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:54:10] <exec> 08└─Generally if possible, I recommend against using wildcards and just issuing SSL certificates with multiple SANs if possible (this is easy with Lets Encrypt. YMMV with other things). Not always viable depending on your setup but wildcards can be a security risk in and of themselves since even if you...
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[22:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Proposal for a Vacuum Airship for Mars - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:45] <exec> 08└─I never realized this was a real concept before. I wonder what the lifting capacity would be on Mars; yes there is less atmospheric pressure to implode the vacuum airship, but there is also less atmosphere to provide buoyancy force. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[22:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Proposal for a Vacuum Airship for Mars - 584 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:45:47] <exec> 08└─"Through a more in-depth analysis" we assume, also, then, that the superior displacment of the mars atmosphere will also yields some subtile weather and ... air? changes. it is, i believe, thank god? possible to "inflate" a "vacuum deligerable" on mars to influence an approaching storm(*). however,...
[22:46:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:02] <exec> 08└─virgina tobacoa with a hint of vanilla? or do you mean the hippy lazy after hour rope making sailing ship kind of cheap hemp?
[22:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:04] <exec> 08└─tbh (to be hoenest) there is nooo way you can do everything alone. some things need the right time ( shared time) and four hands (not a mutant).
[22:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:06] <exec> 08└─Whatever happened to relativistic kill vehicles?
[22:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:19] <exec> 08└─but but i thought the CIA is a secret brotherhood of priests worshipping jupiter? and, they get all the venus they want ... thus the real lover is a misfit with slited eyes called hephestos and he knows how to use a hammer ...
[22:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 945 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:47] <exec> 08└─Not only the above, but all except the best quality LEDs flicker. Something to do with rectifiers and the AC to DC conversion. You'd probably know more about it than me; I'm not an EE type. Check youtube for slow-motion videos of LEDs flickering. I started buying CFLs the moment they became availabl...
[22:47:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03purple_cobra [1435] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Paypal not Confirming User's Account Email Addresses? - 1039 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:18] <exec> 08└─All these stories about PayPal being shitty and my own experience has been quite the opposite. A couple of wankers tried to rip me off on eBay, once with a cloned/copied GameBoy Colour cart and once with a broken PowerMac Airport card (shows you how long ago these happened!). The wireless card was b...
[22:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:29] <exec> 08└─Can't have that. My magic book says it can't be so and anyone that disagree must be beheaded.. ;-)
[22:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:49] <exec> 08└─so much politics at intel! good engineering takes a back seat to 'dont make waves' and 'dont challenge the boss, even if he's dead wrong'.
[22:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Intel Ends the Intel Developer Forum -- Cancels IDF17 - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:50] <exec> 08└─They won't die, they just become more irrelevant and marginalized with time. When commodity good performance/low price PCs come with ARM64 etc. They will have a problem.
[22:49:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:49:07] <exec> 08└─> So, better-run states should pass legislation to make this so And that is a hard one to make happen for the same reason it is hard to get zoning boards to rezone - passing that legislation means fighting all of the same voters, but state-wide instead of just one locality at a time. It can still be...
[22:54:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:54:26] <exec> 08└─Without a solid argument why to buy gobs of individual certs instead of one wildcard cert I would get nowhere. I have no doubt I could set up my server for Let's Encrypt. I don't know if that is the case for all other groups that operate servers. The environment I operate in is no doubt different th...
[22:54:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score: 2) 02 - 06SN Security Updates: CAA, LogJam, HTTP Method Disable, and 3DES - 1542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:54:27] <exec> 08└─The problem with wildcards is that they represent a considerably high risk factor. For example, imagine that you have www.example.com, mail.example.com, and payment.example.com, and you're in a PCI compliance setup so you've got everything that talks to the outside world living in the DMZ. You buy a...
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[23:45:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06United Air's Abuses: Doing the Heavy-Handed Thing a Third Time - 804 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:46] <exec> 08└─I'm sure that I have changed seats mid-flight when there were many empty rows. It's hard to pull you off the plane at that point. The self-upgrade is what got them here... So what do you get in United Economy Plus seats? Apparently 3-5 inches more leg room. And then there's this [frommers.com]: Unit...
[23:45:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06United Air's Abuses: Doing the Heavy-Handed Thing a Third Time - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:48] <exec> 08└─Don't bitch to me, bitches. I've been boycotting air travel since 2001. As far as I'm concerned, either the TSA can be abolished or the airline industry can go out of business permanently. I don't care which.
[23:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Proposal for a Vacuum Airship for Mars - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:58] <exec> 08└─Quit bogarting.
[23:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Proposal for a Vacuum Airship for Mars - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:00] <exec> 08└─Hey there, bogart Could you help me out Talk to be bogart What is it all about Hey there bogart Proud and brave and strong Talk to me bogart What did I do wrong Help me bogart If time and space allow Talk to me bogart What would you do now
[23:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:18] <exec> 08└─Can't talk about those when the relatives are in town.
[23:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06"Music of the Meteors" may be Caused by Radio Emissions - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:20] <exec> 08└─That is dependent upon how good it is. Plus, the really good stuff gives you short term memory loss. So, it is dependent upon how good it is.
[23:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Engineer Human-Germ Hybrid Molecules to Attack Drug-Resistant Bacteria - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:35] <exec> 08└─Seriously, it's almost all nonsense. I've seen all those words but never in those combinations?
[23:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score: 1) 02 - 06IoT Goes Nuclear: Creating a ZigBee Chain Reaction - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:05] <exec> 08└─I wonder if DC home power distribution for a lights circuit would help?
[23:47:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 1648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:47] <exec> 08└─So to accomplish increased temperature with 1 kelvin, one needs to accelerate to the order of 10^20 m/s². However there seems to be three upper limits to acceleration: 0) Planck acceleration is a object that goes from zero to speed of light in one Planck time. 1) If the mass of a object is gi...
[23:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:49] <exec> 08└─Btw, you can build your own EMdrive right now. Just don't expect to hoover anytime soon.
[23:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Testing the Unruh Effect - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:51] <exec> 08└─Vicariously.. well it's kind of more fun to test it by oneself. Even if the performance so far sucks ;) Found some interesting comments in the last link though: establish a "force locked loop", rather than a phase locked loop. The phenomena of interest is the thrust versus input power. If you could...
[23:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06"It's a Perfect Storm": Homeless Spike in Rural California Linked to Silicon Valley - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:49:29] <exec> 08└─Fixing the tax code would be a good start. 'Progressive' will not work. Simplification and removal of *all* loopholes will. The states that have been moving towards flat taxes and no loopholes are going cash positive. We have had nearly 40 years of voodoo economics at this point to prove it does not...
[23:50:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Delivery Robots: a Revolutionary Step or Sidewalk-Clogging Nightmare? - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:50:04] <exec> 08└─In reality very little was known about the proles. It was not necessary to know much. So long as they continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appe...
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