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[00:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:38] <exec> 08└─There's clearly a "because they can" element, due to higher tech salaries. *Why do top bankers and CEOs flock to the most expensive penthouses?*
[00:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:39] <exec> 08└─I was in a 'hub' office for years. They closed it. Out of work for a year. No one, and I mean NO ONE will return your calls if you are not even in the same state. Number in my local area? 3 jobs to submit anything to. Got an onsite out of 2 of them. If you think they are picky in a big city you have...
[00:36:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:41] <exec> 08└─I assume it's because anyone dumb enough to write somebody else's programs for a living is dumb enough to live in a big city. The way I see it, you can get 80% of the benefits of the big city life (which as far as I'm concerned are all directly or indirectly about more "places", of every sort, withi...
[00:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:44] <exec> 08└─Rural areas are more productive at keeping your fscking food on the table.
[00:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03dltaylor [4693] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:46] <exec> 08└─I know that there are developers/programmers with a variety of beliefs, but in most of the more expensive cities in the USofA, "Which church do you attend?" is not in the top 10 early conversation items, unlike many smaller communities where I hear it all to often.
[00:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:36:48] <exec> 08└─I generally reply something along the lines of "None. It cuts into my fishing time." Have yet to get the hairy eyeball for that anywhere rural on account of that being an officially approved reason to not go to church, along with hunting.
[00:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Ousted South Korean Leader Behind Bars After Arrest on Bribery Charges - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:53] <exec> 08└─Oh we might... Trump's position is looking a bit tenuous these days. If he's guilty
[00:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ousted South Korean Leader Behind Bars After Arrest on Bribery Charges - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:54] <exec> 08└─In other words, regardless of group category. Given a big enough stick you can speak softly and "ask" the government for a "fair" treatment. (or else!)
[00:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Ousted South Korean Leader Behind Bars After Arrest on Bribery Charges - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:37:56] <exec> 08└─Obama seems to been into this area of expertise too by pressuring corporations to donate to organizations: Barack Obama’s Department of Justice funneled billions of dollars to leftist organizations [americaswatchtower.com] Guess how demonstrations "against" Trump is payed for? :P
[00:39:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:01] <exec> 08└─Oh, it gets worse: he's one of the main coders. Now he does excellent code, if the way the site runs is any indication, but I can't help but think he may be abusing the leverage this gives him juuuuust a bit.
[00:39:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:03] <exec> 08└─Are you saying that it's possible to actually split hairs about types of white supremacists? What a world.
[00:39:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:05] <exec> 08└─Yeah, we're not one of those sites you can hide on and never hear about anything that might upset you. We're in fact going to throw stuff up from all comers if it's newsworthy and you're either going to have to deal with it or go find yourself a safe space.
[00:39:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:39:07] <exec> 08└─You're really going to run with a thoroughly debunked line of shit? Your choice I suppose.
[00:41:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:04] <exec> 08└─The cognitive dissonance in you is amazing, maybe it is stockholm syndrome. Assuming the executioner who is torturing you is going to let you go for telling the truth is no different than expecting these treatments are actually going to help you when it is people like that pushing them...
[00:41:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:05] <exec> 08└─I actually agree with you. The principle behind those policies was a good one. But at this point, with the US in such great debt, and other wealthy countries using price controls to avoid paying their fair share, it's time to change the way pricing is done. America first, and all that.
[00:41:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cyclone in Australia Could Disrupt Steel Production in Asia - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:41:21] <exec> 08└─In fact, all the recent bankruptcies in the coal industry were due to mining companies making bad bets on metallurgical coal. [vox.com] They went all in on metallurgical coal and then China's demand for steel dropped, which killed the market. This cyclone will probably cause a short-lived bump in th...
[00:42:51] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06A Swedish Start-Up has Started Implanting Microchips into its Employees - 1329 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:42:52] <exec> 08└─Et facit omnes pusillos et magnos et divites et pauperes et liberos et servos accipere characterem in dextera manu sua aut in frontibus suis, et ne quis possit emere aut vendere, nisi qui habet characterem, nomen bestiae aut numerum nominis eius. Hic sapientia est: qui habet intellectum, computet nu...
[00:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Swedish Start-Up has Started Implanting Microchips into its Employees - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:43:23] <exec> 08└─I live in the USA, I go with the ambulance chasers I'm aware of.
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[01:36:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:18] <exec> 08└─I don't have any social media accounts. The one thing they could get data on me from is Vons, where I buy my groceries. Enter my phone number and I typically save 30-50% a week on my groceries. Thing is, it ain't my phone number. It's a friend of mine who doesn't care about being tracked. Make sure...
[01:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:37] <exec> 08└─Because the feedlot isn't hiring for Ruby?
[01:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:38] <exec> 08└─CSB. Mid 80s, I've been a software developer for some 5 years in San Diego. A co-worker had a job interview (she was a tech writer) in Santa Barbara, we decided to make a weekend vacation out of it. Drive up Thursday after work, Friday she goes into her interview. I put on some shorts, grab a beer,...
[01:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Mykl [1112] (Score: 3, Funny) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 646 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:41] <exec> 08└─In my opinion, most of these "anyone can telecommute!" articles come from people who desperately want it to be true, because they can't stand to be around people. I've spent 20 years working across a range of large organisation and have experienced a mix of onsite, offshore and distributed workforce...
[01:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:43] <exec> 08└─Yet the technology from the cities still needs to go to the country because of zoning restrictions enacted by city governments. Some cities have even threatened jail time for victory gardeners such as Julie Bass (source [huffingtonpost.com]), though in her case the city of Oak Park later dismissed t...
[01:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:45] <exec> 08└─Many bad, inefficient practices continue to exist, but their mere existence does not prove they are good.
[01:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 984 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:47] <exec> 08└─The good IT jobs are in a couple of big cities because that is where all of the interesting tech companies are. The tech companies are there because that is where the VC is and VC has enough pitches from local people and they like that they can drop in and check up without airfare involved to bother...
[01:36:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:49] <exec> 08└─"and in this era of Skype and Slack, there's nothing about software development that requires meatspace interactions." Other than the requirement to possess specialized developer equipment. Case in point: physical security requirements of agreements between video game console makers and game studios...
[01:36:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:51] <exec> 08└─I agree with everything you say. However, I moved to a big city. The job opportunities just were not there. It is also no longer 'fun'. It is however pretty much all I am any good at. I am very very very good at it too. But fun is not what I would describe it as anymore.
[01:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:53] <exec> 08└─h1b/offshore you get what you pay for. The last couple of projects I worked on we used them quite a bit. We finally got tired of shit code, and randomly rotating people with 0 consistency in the replacement. We would h1b only if we really could not find anyone. That was pretty rare. We brought all p...
[01:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:36:56] <exec> 08└─Could the war against veggies be related to this? National Guard Whistleblower: “Doomsday Preppers Will Be Treated As Terrorists” [infowars.com] (2012). Rand Paul warns that having more than 7 days of food government considers having guns or storing more than 7 days of food a possible terrorist...
[01:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:13] <exec> 08└─I doubt sensors and computing takes anything near 7 kW. Though actuators possible can. But it may be the *peak* power specified. The technical data one needs to say design a power supply or electronic output stage. But which has little impact on energy usage. Pumps to keep hydraulic pressure up may...
[01:37:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:38] <exec> 08└─What is the alternative for advertisers? The local newspaper ads? billboards? I suspect even if online ads are crap. It still beats mass broadcasts of ads with poor hit ratio.
[01:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:40] <exec> 08└─Yahoo, AOL, Huffington you have been SLIMED.. Very SLIMED :P The Huffington Post isn't that the news outlet that is restrained such as to not offend nor inform anyone of anything that matters? Sorry for the rant ;) In case anyone forgot: Verizon Redirects Typo Traffic to its Own Search Service [giga...
[01:37:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:37:42] <exec> 08└─The Huffington Post isn't that the news outlet
[01:38:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Ousted South Korean Leader Behind Bars After Arrest on Bribery Charges - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:38:10] <exec> 08└─Seems South Koreans have some "swamp draining" todo.
[01:38:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 190 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:38:46] <exec> 08└─He's sentient. Skynet is going to start in #soylent. Actually I found a list of his demands already. It's pretty short so far. Only one item in fact: he wants us to bite his shiny metal ass.
[01:39:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:20] <exec> 08└─> never hear about anything that might upset you. Stop hiding behind that canard. If you actually had something thoughtful to say, then you could indeed crow about upsetting people with important ideas. But you literally just said you don't care about ideas, only about getting people worked up over...
[01:39:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:21] <exec> 08└─Ok, where is the torrent?
[01:39:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:23] <exec> 08└─You don't think pointing out the extent to which people will stick their heads in the sand rather than deal with something uncomfortable is a good thing? You're probably right. Do you need a q-tip to help get the sand out of your ears?
[01:39:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:25] <exec> 08└─The thing is, Milo didn't add much value to this story - there's some Wikileaks tweets in addition to the BBC story. And I have really low standards for web design, but his style is coyote ugly. In the article itself, there's at least three different fonts used, text size varies from paragraph to pa...
[01:39:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:27] <exec> 08└─Don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining. You haven't revealed anything uncomfortable. All you did was link to an edgelord's self-serving re-interpretation of an actual news article.
[01:39:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:39:30] <exec> 08└─unsure which a non cow is which, but if the same: 1. 'WTF' is shorthand for coarse discourse, should such lowlifes who use it be banned to keep SN pure and unadulterated ? ? ? 2. is censorship for the sake of neatness a good quality or a bad quality, discuss among yourselves... 3. YOUR words -though...
[01:41:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cyclone in Australia Could Disrupt Steel Production in Asia - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:41:44] <exec> 08└─We probably cut the high-grade coke to enhance next quarter's sales number.
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[02:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 3077 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:30] <exec> 08└─In some sense this sounds just like scaling up what sociologist already do, you could see the current usage of data-analysis as small scale (compared to big data). Still it's data, it usually only lends it self to certain things - it rarely explains why people do things, just that they do them, how...
[02:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:32] <exec> 08└─Aha, so wrecking the data trail is actually a useful thing lest you will be used as a guinea pig. Good to know :P These studies will be done by people that obviously these days have too many people in their profession that seems to have abandoned the scientific method and unbiased analytic. Not a go...
[02:36:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:36:34] <exec> 08└─Let's correlate all the data to find out why people trust or distrust each other, so we can become better con men! We already have a huge con industry (student loans, for starters) but we are really sure we can milk the suckers for more cash. Let's study how and why trust is established, so we can r...
[02:37:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:03] <exec> 08└─Depends on what "offshore" means? India "me very good" mixed with management MBAs. A lot of top open source projects are done "offshore" and they beat a lot of commercial software. I suspect the efficiency is down to other things than physical presence.
[02:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:04] <exec> 08└─Then the problem may be that the people doing the hiring have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
[02:37:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:06] <exec> 08└─I doubt that's it. In Europe where religion is very much a private matter and people won't nose into yours, developers still tend to flock to big expensive cities.
[02:37:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:08] <exec> 08└─Yes, but here in America it very likely IS a significant reason that so many younger people are abandoning the smaller towns and cities (the conservative ones). Only a tiny fraction of these young people are software developers; this article of course concentrates on that profession, but the urbaniz...
[02:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:11] <exec> 08└─During each of my last two job hunts, after having been fired no less, I got flown diagonally across the country. That's about 3500 miles each I suppose, plus a north-south trip of about 2000 miles. It's not a big deal. Considering just the airports I used, I flew: 1. Boston Massachusetts to LA Cali...
[02:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1338 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:13] <exec> 08└─I think you are right on target. Big cities = many people = many job opportunities to choose from. Rural setting = pray everyday your job continue to exist. And if it doesn't you are possibly stuck with a need to move really fast into a crowded city with few housing options. By settling in a big cit...
[02:37:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:15] <exec> 08└─I hate to be a naysayer and argue against telecommuting, but I really do feel I need to point out a huge difference here: passion. Open-source projects in general are done because some person or small group of people have a serious passion for something, and decide to do it even though they don't ev...
[02:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:17] <exec> 08└─The jobs went 'elsewhere'. In the state I live in they literally packed up the machines that made the items then shipped them to Mexico then to china. The people in those areas have nothing other than crime and drugs. There are thousands of those 'company' towns that are now dying or dead. When you...
[02:37:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:19] <exec> 08└─Keep a couple years of pay available in near-cash form. When the job goes, you pick another rural location and move. The benefit: you get to live in places that are peaceful and cheap. You can spend $50,000 to $400,000 on a house, maybe getting an acre of land or more. Your taxes may be low. Your 2n...
[02:37:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:21] <exec> 08└─(a) naturalnews is a nutjob website, if they get something right its like a broken clock between right twice a day (b) don't assume a couple of isolated stupid cases is representative of anything, especially when the example is one where sanity ultimately prevailed
[02:37:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:24] <exec> 08└─We went with the big offshore companies and a few small ones. The contractor companies do. not. care. If your project eats it then 'oh well'. They may even comp your money back. But you have lost 6 months of time with nothing but a kiss and a promise. We tried pair programming them, intense waterfal...
[02:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 440 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:26] <exec> 08└─Some humans have the need to coach their employees into their open office disruption range at a fixed time where they can impose their monkey needs of body language. And wreck concentration with chatter, pen drops and interruptions. Not something that is good for rewriting vm-core allocation scheme....
[02:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:28] <exec> 08└─from huffpo to naturalnews to infowars, this thread has really gone down the crazy drain its not a good look for anti-city folk
[02:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:30] <exec> 08└─Had we not been paying up and leaving that woman would have had a glass of water on her head look out folks we have an almost bad ass here...
[02:37:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1070 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:32] <exec> 08└─I've a better question. Why is it that any city with a growing tech sector can't keep up with the demand for housing? It's like they purposely restrict housing to drive up prices, to gouge engineers, because they know engineers are well paid. I hear San Francisco is especially bad at allowing any mo...
[02:37:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:34] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of pouring a glass of water on some rude person's head like that, but I'm really curious: what could legally happen to you if you did that? Anyone in law enforcement care to answer?
[02:37:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:37] <exec> 08└─Remember that "interesting tech companies" isn't just pure-software places. If anything, those places are less interesting. Software gets interesting when it operates equipment that can kill people, intentionally or not. This means everything from medical implants to ICBMs. Bugs that cause funny-loo...
[02:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:37:54] <exec> 08└─That's German for "me too" .
[02:38:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 94 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:03] <exec> 08└─That's sorta true, but it sounds more like a name for one of those dumb Christian metal bands.
[02:38:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 1157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:24] <exec> 08└─I sat in on those meetings where they announced the buyouts to the Verizon minions. They bought AOL and eventually Yahoo for their advert platforms. The rest will be gone or spun out in 5 years. They usually leave their buyouts sit for 2-3 years before they turn them into normalized vz goo. Anything...
[02:38:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:38:25] <exec> 08└─Back in the late 90s or early 2000s my ISP was bought out by that bunch of Yahoos. I immediately changed to a competing ISP. I did not want to be a yahoo.
[02:40:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:09] <exec> 08└─And calling them 'nut jobs' makes you feel better? Or are you unwilling to even hear what they have to say?
[02:40:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:11] <exec> 08└─How the hell can we trust anyone anymore when they get their "news" from a provocative, Alt-Right idol?
[02:40:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 786 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:13] <exec> 08└─Your response is a shallow misdirection. The question is, what do you value more? Wallowing around in the mud, constantly having the same arguments about self-evident truths and never getting beyond them because freedom. Or building on an accepted baseline of common ground so as to get to a deeper u...
[02:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:15] <exec> 08└─Why the left keeps using the word 'we' to talk about itself? You are the minorty, you know. "We" the people have spoken. "We" are educating you about your opposition and 'you' are busy splitting the hair.
[02:40:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Xbox One Exploit Proof of Concept Released, Based on Chakra Exploit - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:40:52] <exec> 08└─I want a computing platform and no-one to impede my decisions on usage. It's not the manufacturers responsibility to handle users bad decisions, just to inform them of the supported one. And it's also my right to use whatever software I'll see fit. Which just reminds me why iPhone is such a shitty c...
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[02:40:54] <exec> 08└─Which is why IoT devices should be locked down to local non-internet networks. Perhaps even with a switch that lock MAC addresses so IoT stuff only can't communicate with each other.
[02:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Asteroids Pass Earth - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:43:44] <exec> 08└─Yeah, depends on the location and also the accuracy and the amount of warning time. And what if you implement such a system, and have several evacuations and it turns out you're wrong, or the impact is hundreds of miles away, or it explodes in the upper atmosphere causing no damage? After a few inci...
[02:44:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A Swedish Start-Up has Started Implanting Microchips into its Employees - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:37] <exec> 08└─I know.. But there's one way to partially minimize the problem. Putting up barriers that requires people to use their brains another one is to make things boring for the causal onlooker. Just like people evaluated the green VT-100 but didn't THINK about where it connected or could do nor development...
[02:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Graphene Oxide Sieves Seawater Into Drinking Water - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:44:52] <exec> 08└─If you distill the water later, why use desalination to begin with?
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[03:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 2789 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:38] <exec> 08└─Big data will not fix the problem with sociology and other social sciences. If anything it could greatly exasperate it. The whole problem is the complete conflation of causation and correlation. And big data opens up way more room for bastardization there. If you give an individual access to enough...
[03:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:36:39] <exec> 08└─I can see it now...sociologists will soon be studying the 'big data' and it's relations, and forget about the humans. Another futile ploy to bring a pseudo-science into respectable circles, this time using 'more computer'. Harry Seldon laughs at you!.
[03:37:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:25] <exec> 08└─Part of it is the transformation to a service economy. Manufacturing requires supply-chains but not anywhere near the kind of density that the person-to-person nature of service work does.
[03:37:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:27] <exec> 08└─So the physical office is there to numb and coach people enough to do completely bland tasks? ;-)
[03:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:29] <exec> 08└─To be clear, I hate smokers. Have since high school, 70's. A glass of water on her head would have been the minimum I did to her. No internet tough guy here, just a non-smoker who hated smoke.
[03:37:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:31] <exec> 08└─Why is it that any city with a growing tech sector can't keep up with the demand for housing? It's like they purposely restrict housing to drive up prices, to gouge engineers, because they know engineers are well paid.
[03:37:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:33] <exec> 08└─Somehow I suspect the people writing software for things that kill people really don't like the idea of remote work. Security with all the work in a physically secure building is hard enough, security with some guy in a remote city working from a home where God only knows who is wandering in/out and...
[03:37:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:35] <exec> 08└─Look, it's mostly just Christians. You city folk are used to other stuff, where rejecting the faith will get your head cut off. Christians are more like Sikh and Buddhist. Asking "Which church do you attend?" will at worst affect friendship, not survival. You can give a "wrong" answer and live.
[03:37:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03CZB [6457] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 459 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:38] <exec> 08└─Interesting to hear everyone's input here on this topic. I see the amount of money startups burn, for those prices you could buy half a town, remodel it and pay salaries for half a decade. But it makes sense that the people who run and staff tech companies want to be in the biggest pool where everyo...
[03:37:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:40] <exec> 08└─My accounting professor's first job after getting his CPA was with a rural cattle-ranch. The inventory were head of cattle (note, that is not a typo, they say 500 head of cattle rather than 500 heads of cattle).
[03:37:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:37:59] <exec> 08└─You must be new here, and by here i mean Earth. Newspapers have been butchering headlines and grammar forever.
[03:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:00] <exec> 08└─With 360 screens and audio, why bother to go anywhere, just telepresence to your destination. Saves a lot of fuel and all the other costs of driving.
[03:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:38:31] <exec> 08└─Angry? I thought it was bland.. ;)
[03:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:40:19] <exec> 08└─You must accept the Code of Conduct. The only acceptable citations and links are the ones that make right look bad and left look good. Only then we can maintain that left and right are divided on the crevices of credibility (left being the only credible one). That way we can keep the actual topics o...
[03:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:22] <exec> 08└─http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2012/02/fasting-and-cancer [economist.com] http://news.nationalpost.com [nationalpost.com] https://www.drfuhrman.com [d...
[03:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Tesla Beats Estimate With 25,000 Deliveries as Model 3 Nears - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:43:32] <exec> 08└─Except for FCA (Chrysler) and VW (Diesel idiots) I don't think anyone has been failing in the auto business in recent years. Since the Great Recession sales are up every year. But auto is historically cyclical and sales will go down at some point. Tesla isn't big enough to be sucked into the sales r...
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[04:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Materials May Lead to Self-Healing Smartphones - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:24] <exec> 08└─as opposed to the self-desctuctive ones we have now? More glass; glass to the edges; glass front *and* back; fragile (due to being engineered smaller) plugs and sockets. Everything about "modern" phones is fragile. This leads to a booming market for spares and repairs, and improves the sales of the...
[04:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Materials May Lead to Self-Healing Smartphones - 652 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:25] <exec> 08└─The goal is to make self-healing robots that just wouldn't die when you kill it. Like a zombie, it would rise after healing itself and murder more people. I suggest giving them an acid bath, but they will start having rubber skin. Then burn them and they start having fire-resistant rubber skin. The...
[04:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 959 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:39] <exec> 08└─This seems to be on the track that Isaac Asimov envisioned with psychohistory in the Foundation series, which seems to be a sort of a statistical mechanics of human behaviour. In physics, statistical mechanics isn’t concerned with the behaviour of individual objects like atoms, molecules, or elect...
[04:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:40] <exec> 08└─As mentioned data analysis lends itself very well for studies that ask questions such as what are they thinking
[04:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:43] <exec> 08└─No respectable circles were mentioned here, so whatever are you referring to?
[04:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:45] <exec> 08└─The difference between science and the fuzzy subjects is that science requires reasoning while those other subjects merely require scholarship.
[04:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 1025 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:36:47] <exec> 08└─Basic entities obey simple physical laws that allow us to extrapolate outwards and draw far grander conclusions. For instance the simple observation that the speed of light is measured to be exactly the same from any perspective leads directly to the stupefying implications laid out in relativity. T...
[04:37:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:40] <exec> 08└─Because people who are into computers and software are degenerate weirdos and want to work in places where they won't get the shit beat out of them or fired for being super-autists.
[04:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 612 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:42] <exec> 08└─There should be no reason for any authority to be fucking with peoples' gardens or willingness to collect rainwater for home use. That crosses the line from keeping the peace to jackboot thuggery and extortion, and sends the disturbing message that no, they don't want you to be self-sufficient even...
[04:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1021 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:44] <exec> 08└─Two main branches here. The first is development entrepreneurs. If you want to start a business you need money. So you go to areas where there is lots of money and investment available. If you're intelligent and have a half decent idea you can still get 6 figures to make it happen for 20% like it's...
[04:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:46] <exec> 08└─Just inadvertently replied to nearly this exact point here [soylentnews.org].
[04:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ethanol-fueled [2792] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1668 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:48] <exec> 08└─Because space is finite, even vertical space, and there comes a point when people will no longer tolerate runaway growth for any price. The Bay Area is a good example, there certainly is enough housing, but its expensive as fuck so people who work there keep being pushed further and further away, so...
[04:37:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:51] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I made the mistake of turning a programming hobby into a job. It's been nothing but frustration. Having lived outside of big cities my whole life, though, I think I want to give city life a try once. I get more liberal the older I get. The benefits of being away from big cities are pretty tang...
[04:37:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:53] <exec> 08└─I've had Christians become violent with me. But I will admit that I've learned that every reason I have to hate Christians and Jews is equally applicable to Muslims. All three religions are a disease.
[04:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:55] <exec> 08└─I think this is the consequence of the professionalization of "business" itself as a thing. MBAs hire MBAs because of a culture of this being the thing to do. And then suddenly you have people making all the decisions believe that programmers are all, more or less, equal and that hiring 10 programme...
[04:37:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:37:57] <exec> 08└─> You city folk are used to other stuff, where rejecting the faith will get your head cut off. Yeah... you've never been to a city, have you?
[04:40:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:35] <exec> 08└─I've heard what they had to say. Repeatedly. It is morally, legally, and in many cases scientifically insane. Hence why I call them "nut jobs."
[04:40:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:37] <exec> 08└─Hitler approval rating 90% [historyplace.com] in 1938 Trump approval rating 39% [gallup.com] in 2017
[04:40:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:39] <exec> 08└─Because he runs the site.
[04:40:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:41] <exec> 08└─Bingo. I love watching people dismiss a message simply because they can't stand agreeing with the messenger.
[04:40:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:40:43] <exec> 08└─Your persecution complex is showing.
[04:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 601 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:44] <exec> 08└─I take Xyrem for narcolepsy. The drug company has several patents and charges $12,000 per month. It is a Schedule 3 drug with a prescription and the diagnosis of narcolepsy, but any abuse, misuse, redistribution, etc. is subject to Schedule 1 penalties. The molecule is easy to synthesize, but there'...
[04:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:46] <exec> 08└─There are several things to note. First, you mentioned two other products which despite their drawbacks still count. So that's at least three products in a competitive market as opposed to a monopoly. Second, there is the drug war angle which increases barrier to entry, again to the advantage of thi...
[04:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:48] <exec> 08└─Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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[05:36:26] <exec> 08└─Those rubber-sheathed robots are going to get lots of action.
[05:37:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magic Oddball [3847] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:46] <exec> 08└─I think that depends more on the part of the country (or region) you're in than the size of the community. I know people in the semi-rural North SF Bay "city" I've spent my life in just generally don't ask or assume anyone else belongs to a church.
[05:37:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:47] <exec> 08└─It took me hours to realize that you were assuming that these jobs would either be in the well-known tech spots (and you'd be rural) or that you'd stay in a well-known tech spot and work remotely. These life-and-death jobs are often outside the tech spots, and you are expected to move.
[05:37:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:37:50] <exec> 08└─It's assault. And if you do it to your wife it's domestic violence. Don't ask.
[05:38:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:38:41] <exec> 08└─It looks like they did get oath.net: Please take a look at any of the sites in the Dark Sites Network (DSN) below.
[05:38:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:38:42] <exec> 08└─> If you have a sbcglobal.net or att.com email address [...] I wonder how comfortable the people at AT&T are about outsourcing their e-mail to Verizon.
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[05:40:35] <exec> 08└─their kind only ever changes their mind about something when it causes them, directly and personally, to suffer.
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[06:36:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:20] <exec> 08└─I owed tens of thousands back in 2000. Within a couple years I'd paid it off and bought a $31,000 car, which is $43,000 in 2016 dollars. It's easy if you get a decent job and live cheaply. I got a programming job and immediately earned more than my wife's parents put together. Rent was $650/month fo...
[06:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:22] <exec> 08└─Making people indebted to government is not "good."
[06:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Shimitar [4208] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:24] <exec> 08└─Let me get this straight, from those who believes that education should be left to free market. 1. Do not let government handle high level education, because it would be a waste of money 2. Education get so expensive, normal people needs to borrow truckloads of money to afford it 3. Profit from this...
[06:36:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:26] <exec> 08└─I'm glad was educated in a first-world country where education is free, because it's considered by society to be an investment for the future good of the entire country. I'm also glad I now live in another first-world country where continuing education is also free, because the country considers tha...
[06:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:28] <exec> 08└─I have a STEM degree, biology. I even have a decent job. Student debt means that my delayed entry into traditional adulthood means I will never have a family. I don't know how much more serious it gets than that. By the time I pay off my loans, establish a household and settle into "adult" life I'll...
[06:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:30] <exec> 08└─People are born in debt [dailysignal.com]. They inherit the debt incurred by previous generations and they have no say about it. This has nothing to do with education. And yes, it ain't good.
[06:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:32] <exec> 08└─Let me help. Point 2) follows from decades of government interference in higher education. In a world of vast overproduction of academicians what is driving the cost of education several times faster than normal inflation? Answer, government-backed student loans. In a rational world, the mediocre st...
[06:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:35] <exec> 08└─I got a programming job and immediately earned more than my wife's parents put together. Do they live in a trailer?
[06:36:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:37] <exec> 08└─Does your fancy country have the best new wall in the world, the most prisoners per capita, and such the hugest military that it can't even round up a bunch of loons riding pickup trucks in the desert? Well, all of those things would be greatly diminished if higher education wasn't exceedingly expen...
[06:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Flamebait) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:44] <exec> 08└─Now you just have to pray that some kind soul in NASA will publish (leak) raw images showing alien space craft on Saturn (and Alien ships coming and going to Saturn's rings, plus the artificial nature of Saturn's rings) and not the edited version that smudges alien civilization remains and hides Ali...
[06:36:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:46] <exec> 08└─> No spacecraft has ever gone through the unique region that we'll attempt to boldly cross 22 times I see what you did there, for extra nerd credit... You're talking about your spacecraft orbiting Saturn for over a decade, don't you already have enough groupies?
[06:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03julian [6003] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Materials May Lead to Self-Healing Smartphones - 1028 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:36:57] <exec> 08└─Here's another way to look at it. How durable and portable was a computing and communication device equal to an iPhone 15 years ago? There's no answer, because it didn't even exist. Maybe a warehouse-sized super computer could match it in FLOPS but it needed a LOT more power and space. My phone has...
[06:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:37:15] <exec> 08└─Why are you not posting as AC...
[06:37:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03TGV [2838] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 887 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:37:17] <exec> 08└─Sounds right to me. Even worse is that it's nearly impossible to translate any meaningful theory into a test on a questionnaire without making a huge amount of assumptions, and this strategy seems to add a bias in the sampled group and a dependency on the actual tool used. That's far from ideal. An...
[06:41:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:41:09] <exec> 08└─Oh are we still playing the poll-poll?
[06:41:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:41:11] <exec> 08└─*BUZZZZZZ* Wrong answer!
[06:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Two Asteroids Pass Earth - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:44:42] <exec> 08└─While some objects, comets and icy asteroids are hard to predict (they're generating more or less random thrust), most bodies that threaten a collision with Earth have very predictable orbits. It's not like predicting weather or flu seasons where the predictions can be way off even a short ways into...
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[07:36:27] <exec> 08└─Is this the fabled one man organization running comfortably in Coventry UK?
[07:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:29] <exec> 08└─This seems more a bureaucratic thing than a humanitarian one. Some weapons are banned others are OK. Some non democracies are OK some others aren't. Sorry Assad you're on the wrong side (being Trump I would gang up with Syria and Putinland against ISIS first, but I think he is not as powerful to mak...
[07:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:31] <exec> 08└─Come on, only the enemy uses propaganda. This is a universal truth.
[07:36:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:33] <exec> 08└─"The United States has also launched a spate of air strikes in Idlib this year, targeting jihadist insurgents."
[07:36:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:35] <exec> 08└─Russia is saying that Syrian government aircraft attacked a rebel factory that was making chemical weapons. http://www.bbc.co.uk [bbc.co.uk] The Syrian Air Force has destroyed a warehouse in Idlib province where chemical weapons were being produced and stockpiled bef...
[07:36:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:51] <exec> 08└─By the time I pay off my loans, establish a household and settle into "adult" life I'll be too old to start looking for a mate to form a family. It's not possible to start before then because women won't date someone below their own station in life Find yourself a woman with a student loan she's sti...
[07:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 733 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:52] <exec> 08└─Maybe you need to look further afield. To the catalogs. Or pull a Breaking Bad and pay off those student loans. You are too principled to hook up with an imperfect partner and produce loser children. But maybe you have the skills and desperation it takes to become a criminal. Find the right racket i...
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[07:36:55] <exec> 08└─pay more taxes
[07:36:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:57] <exec> 08└─Find yourself a woman with a student loan she's still paying off herself then. What's the problem?
[07:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:36:59] <exec> 08└─Get a load of this guy, he thinks the spouse won't ever bring their financial (or whatever) problems over and then run off with someone better when their debts are settled.
[07:37:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:01] <exec> 08└─What you need to do is make your illicit cash. Then you have options. Get a vasectomy. Make your late entry into the dating game and stay unmarried. When the time comes to pass on your legacy, you make a child - a genetically engineered one, in a test tube. Give them the best traits you can identify...
[07:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:11] <exec> 08└─Will Elon Musk dock with the alien ships, pull aliens out of cold stasis, and conquer their orifices?
[07:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:37:13] <exec> 08└─Elon Musk is an alien lizard (or lizard wannabe). He was sent to soften up the humans for consumption. Humans are food for the aliens. Make no mistake about it. Better careful than sorry.
[07:38:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:38:48] <exec> 08└─> no, they don't want you to be self-sufficient For the inherently satanic power system, which spans most, dare I say all nations, self-sufficiency IS subversion. Beyond the flags and the ideologies, the system works in the same way and does not need any other unifying/synchronizing factor than gree...
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[08:36:38] <exec> 08└─Ah, Iraq. Where chemical weapons go to not exist. GG, Ruskies.
[08:36:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:36:40] <exec> 08└─The Russian defence minister, according to the RT story, said that the Iraqi government and international organisations had confirmed the use of chemical weapons in Iraq (the BBC didn't see fit to repeat the claim). I don't know much about the topic, but a quick search of the Web turned up a couple...
[08:37:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 720 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:03] <exec> 08└─In my country - which many Americans would amusingly consider a Socialist paradise - many high level education paths are private. And yet, they're not very expensive. You can pay it back in less than two years with the expected salaries (yes, after living expenses), assuming you don't take any help...
[08:37:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1462 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:04] <exec> 08└─Education is never "free". Like free healthcare, you pay for it out of your taxes. But before you think I'm just being contrarian - I live in a country with free education and free healthcare too. This is the POINT of taxes. To make those who can afford to pay for those things that society needs but...
[08:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:15] <exec> 08└─I didn't know that there was enough liquid water between Saturn and its rings that you could dive there. :-)
[08:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:37:45] <exec> 08└─His real name is Ignatius Constantine Wiener.
[08:45:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Two Asteroids Pass Earth - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:45:17] <exec> 08└─Another visit from 2012 TC4 is expected on 12 October. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov [nasa.gov]
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[09:36:21] <exec> 08└─...Won an award, you know. Lovely crinkly edges.
[09:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:23] <exec> 08└─"Electric Fjord Norway" would be a great name for a rock band. (apologies to Dave Barry.)
[09:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:37] <exec> 08└─One more: Isis has used chemical munitions, including mustard and chlorine agents, on a number of occasions in Iraq and Syria, according to the CIA.
[09:36:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 643 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:36:53] <exec> 08└─By the time I pay off my loans, establish a household and settle into "adult" life I'll be too old to start looking for a mate to form a family. It's not possible to start before then because women won't date someone below their own station in life Find yourself a woman with a student loan she's sti...
[09:37:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 411 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:37:01] <exec> 08└─"Education is never "free". Like free healthcare, you pay for it out of your taxes." I'd rather my taxes pay for healthcare and education rather than waging wars it can't even afford, locking up people over trivial issues just to justify keeping the prisons, and more of the same types of weapons it...
[09:39:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Verizon to House Yahoo! and AOL Under "Oath" Brand - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:39:42] <exec> 08└─It sounds like the name of some straight to VHS B-movie knock-off of a major occult horror movie that happened right after the good one happened, so that they could try to cash in on the excitement.
[09:41:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:39] <exec> 08└─No true Scots... erm, gay would ...
[09:41:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:41] <exec> 08└─As long as the black man doesn't enjoy it and is coerced to do it, he could still be!
[09:41:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:43] <exec> 08└─And calling them 'nut jobs' makes you feel better? Or are you unwilling to even hear what they have to say?
[09:41:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:41:45] <exec> 08└─Oh, Cuban! You are so cute when you get mad! But there is one thing I have always wanted to ask: are you intimately familiar with Monica? Are you that cubancigar11?
[09:42:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Xbox One Exploit Proof of Concept Released, Based on Chakra Exploit - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:24] <exec> 08└─Sure, they'll bake-in a blocker, but Firefox security is an absolute disaster. A little more emphasis on that please, Moz, and less on dumbing-down the UI.
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[10:36:22] <exec> 08└─This weight loss supplement's clinically proven fat burner and appetite suppressant ingredients, combined with the immediate energy it provides, makes it a great choice for all types of dieters, no matter how much weight you have to lose. With a formula that includes industry-leading proteinaceous c...
[10:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 1311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:36:31] <exec> 08└─The ferry seems to need a capacity of 1000 kWh batteries [fjord1.no] which will last several hours without recharging and the ferry will use 50% less energy than the alternative (diesel?). World’s First Electric Car Ferry Recharges in 10 Minutes [wired.com] replaces a 2000-hp diesel engine (1.5 MW...
[10:38:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:38:58] <exec> 08└─in this era of Skype
[10:41:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:53] <exec> 08└─You dislike trolling now? The cognitive dissonance in that position is off the charts.
[10:41:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:55] <exec> 08└─And highlighted several members of the community who would rather ignore the truth if it comes from a source they disagree with. Which is well worth doing if for no other reason than to remove any credibility they had around here.
[10:41:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:57] <exec> 08└─If you think I am cute you should look at my penis :/
[10:41:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:41:59] <exec> 08└─The thing is, Milo didn't add much value to this story...
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[11:36:24] <exec> 08└─Wait, this was first discovered on North American continent, and now in Scandinavia (actual order of appearance may be the other way around, so it does not matter), but how did the two populations isolated by stretches of sea or at best stretches of sea ice bearing no plants, communicate the prion?...
[11:37:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:37:16] <exec> 08└─We would then both have our combined student loan burden ON TOP OF the cost of raising children. We would both be in a worse position; the woman would be even worse off, having to deal with the burden of child birth.
[11:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:37:17] <exec> 08└─By the way, I should also say that if you're truly struggling because you got suckered into debilitating student loan debt, I'm really sorry to hear that. But the point of my post is that it sounds like your situation -- combined with what are (to me) potentially unreasonable demands for a mate -- i...
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[11:39:06] <exec> 08└─Yup, no tech in game engines. Nope, not at all.
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[11:42:57] <exec> 08└─The drugs mentioned in TFA are all antibodies that neutralize parts of the immune checkpoint pathways. Immune checkpoint proteins are normally involved in down-regulating the immune response in order to prevent excessive damage to healthy tissue ("friendly fire") as an infection is being cleared or...
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[12:36:23] <exec> 08└─The only OS I've had issues with DisplayPort in has been Windows 10. Most Linux and BSD distros hate the hell out of my video card (Nvidia 1060) but once it's functional, stuff is good there. Windows, my second monitor is still giving me a full hall of mirrors like it does every time I wake from sle...
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[12:36:32] <exec> 08└─There is a link in the article which says that CWD was spread around the US due to elk from an infected farm being shipped to a dozen states. The full article is behind the Science paywall, though. To answer one of your questions, from the article: "CWD is very contagious: Prions spread easily throu...
[12:36:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:36:44] <exec> 08└─From TFA: "And then my entire commute will be emissions free," Mr Bonesmo grins. No, your electric car and the electric ferry it'll ride on will shift the emissions someplace else, where the power stations are. Unless said power stations are strictly solar, wind, waves, geothermal or nuclear, your e...
[12:37:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:28] <exec> 08└─Because our K-12 schools are doing so well now?
[12:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:30] <exec> 08└─Education is never "free". Like free healthcare, you pay for it out of your taxes. That's why I said it's an investment the society I live in chooses to make. "Free education" is a figure of speech, meaning "available to everybody equally regardless of income".
[12:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03justinb_76 [4362] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:37:42] <exec> 08└─because 'DESCEND!' just wouldn't have the same ring to it? https://youtu.be [youtu.be]
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[12:42:21] <exec> 08└─not to mention that Milo's (ethnically) jewish... I'd link to it but I'm at work - Red Ice did an interview a while back about the Alt-Right & Hotep (Black Nationalist) alliance, worth a watch!
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[13:36:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:27] <exec> 08└─People still run the operating system provided when buying the device? Time to change..
[13:36:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:29] <exec> 08└─Great. I'll go somewhere else on holiday.
[13:36:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DavePolaschek [6129] (Score: 1) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:31] <exec> 08└─According to https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]: It's doubtful that the rest of Congress will listen to these lawmakers and adopt this legislation. For starters, John Kelly, the DHS secretary, won...
[13:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:40] <exec> 08└─I'm already using DisplayPort and it's on a >60hz 3440x1440 monitor. No issues.
[13:36:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:43] <exec> 08└─Is this a problem for OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD etc too? (btw, the problem with NVidia is their closed policy, so avoid them)
[13:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:45] <exec> 08└─Step 0: Make sure we have control of the situation. Step 1: Verify that if we do X, it will work. Step 2: Step 2 says X will work, so commit X. Step 3: Ooops, the commit did not work as planned. Step 4: Double oops, I don't have a plan for commit not working. What can I say, with the real world, som...
[13:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Insightful) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 406 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:47] <exec> 08└─> she patched Linux 4.12 for true DisplayPort compliance And I'm sure she was met with nothing but hostility and vitriol because of the inherent misogyny in tech. What's that? She wasn't? Well.. fuck. How about some good 'ol racism because she isn't white? None of that either? Damn it. It's almost l...
[13:36:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:36:59] <exec> 08└─feeding stations and salt licks are hot spots of infection.
[13:37:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:10] <exec> 08└─Without trying to check your calculation, it makes conceptual sense to me. Purely in economic terms, electric (and hybrid) car payback is a function of mileage or use. Pay additional up front and slowly claw back the first cost on fuel savings. This ferry application is in use most of the day, much...
[13:37:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:11] <exec> 08└─Please refer to Norway's electricity figures, which indicate hydro, geothermal and wind production: https://www.ssb.no [www.ssb.no]
[13:37:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:13] <exec> 08└─Norway produces a ton of hydro power. So Mr Bonesmo is most likely correct. Also, I noticed hydro wasn't in your list, care to elaborate?
[13:37:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:37:29] <exec> 08└─The thing is that you have far less control over chemical attacks than you do over smart bomb attacks via drone. Much has been said about the collateral damage from smart bombing, but it's far worse for chemical attacks which are great for randomly killing civilians depending on how the wind blows,...
[13:38:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:00] <exec> 08└─Education is never "free". Like free healthcare, you pay for it out of your taxes.
[13:38:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:01] <exec> 08└─At least have the sensibility to stop calling it "free" when you mean "subsidized" and many of these semantics arguments would stop.
[13:38:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 888 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:04] <exec> 08└─In the UK, your student loan is backed by the government and paid back at a rate that depends on your income (you can overpay, but it rarely makes sense to do so because the interest is at the rate of inflation and you can usually earn more interest than that on other investments). If you reach reti...
[13:38:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 707 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:06] <exec> 08└─The US government spends more than any nation paying for socialized medicine. So no, American taxes go to socialized medicine, and far more than your taxes do. Every single cent spent by everyone for all heath related services in Britain, for example are about 150 billion. Times that by 10 just for...
[13:38:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 576 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:08] <exec> 08└─The semantics arguments would also be increasingly silly if they were also applied to roads, bridges, railroads, and other infrastructure, which they ought to be. When's the last time a poltroon exploded to his feet to assert that roads ain't free neither, they're paid for by yer taxes dadgummit--so...
[13:38:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:10] <exec> 08└─Those problems are due to governmental approaches; those problems are due to anti-free-market approaches.
[13:38:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:12] <exec> 08└─Try again.
[13:38:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:14] <exec> 08└─The student debt crisis is a leading candidate for what will bring the whole system crashing down. Its amount exceeds credit card debt in the US, which is a feat. So if you have kids that will need to go to college in a decade or so you should think outside the box. You're going to have to. Our plan...
[13:38:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:17] <exec> 08└─Traditionally mid 30s to 40s was when men settled down and got themselves a 16 year old mate or 10. It has always taken that long to get enough resources together to attract a mate in pre-religion societies. This is not a change in economics, this is a change back to the norm in courting and mating...
[13:38:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:19] <exec> 08└─Except so much of that money is wasted on bureaucracy and corporate profits.
[13:38:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1059 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:21] <exec> 08└─In the U.S., the federal government doles out loans like candy to anyone who wants one; the more unqualified the student is for higher education, and the less productive the chosen major in question, the better. If you're black and from a family that has been poor for 400 years, then you're encourag...
[13:38:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:38:34] <exec> 08└─By some coincidence, just a few days ago, I was pondering what it would take to have a closer look at the rings using Cassini before its demise. What a treat to know that we will be doing this and get to see the results so soon! This is otherwise reachable from the links above, but a graphic illust...
[13:40:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:14] <exec> 08└─From the wikipedia article about LM's CEO : Hewson was born in Junction City, Kansas. She earned her Bachelor of Science degree in business administration and her Master of Arts degree in economics from the University of Alabama. She also attended the Columbia Business School and Harvard Business Sc...
[13:40:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:16] <exec> 08└─Simple assault is rarely prosecuted and typically has a *maximum* penalty of about 6 months in gaol iirc. But if committed by a man against a woman who is or claims to be wife or girlfriend to him, it's a far more serious offense that can result in permanent dehumanisation. Ahh, patriarchy lads!
[13:40:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:18] <exec> 08└─(a) That's why I linked three sources: to make sure the story remains readable even if one of the sources gets paywall-happy or the link otherwise rots.
[13:40:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:20] <exec> 08└─Snide remarks about not real tech aside, I'd largely agree. Last time I was looking for a job, I was freelancing (so, from the perspective of most recruiters, unemployed) and still had offers including relocation expenses for several countries. Most of the freelance work that I was doing was for com...
[13:40:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:22] <exec> 08└─There is that and it's a place to store people who can't be trusted to walk free during the day. Much like schools. Both institutions serve a valuable purpose.
[13:40:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Koen [427] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:24] <exec> 08└─I use jitsi.meet [meet.jit.si] nowadays in stead of Skype: open source [github.com] & no need to install any software: just send a link and talk.
[13:40:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:40:26] <exec> 08└─but in most of the more expensive cities in the USofA, "Which church do you attend?" is not in the top 10 early conversation items, unlike many smaller communities where I hear it all to often.
[13:44:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Xbox One Exploit Proof of Concept Released, Based on Chakra Exploit - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:08] <exec> 08└─It's not just about price, but about freedom. But the ignorant, unprincipled masses would probably pick the former.
[13:45:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Cancer Immunotherapies Show Success... at a High Cost - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:45:34] <exec> 08└─" Here is a primer for you on the issue." That was an interesting read. It says that the reasonable and customary way to do business is to charge what the market will bear. Then it says that the fair way to price drugs is to charge poor countries the cost of production and charge rich countries this...
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[14:36:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Informative) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:37] <exec> 08└─I'm not from the US, but I can't find anything in the constitution that would limit the fourth amendment to US citizens only. "The right of the people to be secure " Can't find a definition of "the people" in it. I'm not trying that hard, as it wouldn't change my mind on travelling to the US anytim...
[14:36:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 657 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:38] <exec> 08└─Not only border security, but police need to be able to search your devices without a warrant after arresting you. The need to search is to find or manufacture evidence to justify the arrest. This is because they can no longer use 'resisting arrest' as the reason for an arrest. Border security needs...
[14:36:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 1173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:40] <exec> 08└─There are other ways of getting around the rule that you can't arrest someone solely for resisting arrest. For instance, many people who've been in political protests have been arrested for assaulting an officer's boot with their groin, or assaulting the officer's nightstick with the top of their he...
[14:36:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:52] <exec> 08└─I use DisplayPort too, with a 4K monitor @60Hz. The kernel is 3.16.0 But I do have issues. Sometimes the monitor won't wake up after sleeping, like there's no signal. I have to turn it off and on again, and sometimes change virtual consoles, or even restart X. But what annoys me the most is that it...
[14:36:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:53] <exec> 08└─I have a 4K HDMI monitor connected to a Broadwell NUC running Windows 10, and it still can't get itself right most of the time. Watch a 2 hour movie on Netflix, at some point there will be at least 30 seconds of blank screen while the monitor and CPU are re-syncing with each other. MTBF on the HDMI...
[14:36:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:55] <exec> 08└─When I got my nVidia 1070, Linux Mint for some reason couldn't pull up the proprietary drivers for it. Manually installed the drivers and it worked fine. Found an article recently to update it to the latest version and it now responds to the proprietary driver selection menus properly. It used to ta...
[14:36:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 354 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:36:58] <exec> 08└─Well, when I say "hate the hell out of", I mean, "I had to manually install the proprietary driver". It's not something I've had to do in Linux for years. I'm toying with Sparky at the moment, which I believe is similar to Mint in the level of polish it has. It's still leaps and bounds better than w...
[14:37:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 817 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:09] <exec> 08└─Um, the whole problematic opens up more questions than we have answers: Apparently prions have very high virulence, and there are no known mechanisms for self-cure of infected organism, no part of immune system is doing targeted molecule removal, especially if it is a relatively small molecule. But...
[14:37:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:10] <exec> 08└─TWA - Trans World Airways, even the Galapagos aren't islands anymore.
[14:37:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:24] <exec> 08└─According to a 2005 article: especially in tropical countries, hydroelectric schemes can emit methane and carbon dioxide--in some instances, even more than an equivalent fossil fuel installation. https://www.newscientist.com [newscientist.co...
[14:37:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 549 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:42] <exec> 08└─New Scientist has a rebuttal to the Russian statement: [...] sarin is unstable, and the Assad regime chose to stockpile its precursor chemical, which would be mixed with another chemical just before use to produce sarin. Any rebel-made agent would probably be handled similarly. Hitting a cache of t...
[14:37:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:44] <exec> 08└─Why is the word "scores" in quotes in the article title? Is this meant to imply that this didn't happen?
[14:37:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:46] <exec> 08└─Yes.
[14:37:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 734 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:37:56] <exec> 08└─I'm glad was educated in a first-world country where education is free, because it's considered by society to be an investment for the future good of the entire country. I'm also glad I now live in another first-world country where continuing education is also free, because the country considers tha...
[14:38:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:28] <exec> 08└─The semantics arguments would also be increasingly silly if they were also applied to roads, bridges, railroads, and other infrastructure, which they ought to be. When's the last time a poltroon exploded to his feet to assert that roads ain't free neither, they're paid for by yer taxes dadgummit--so...
[14:38:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:29] <exec> 08└─Khallow did a good job of explaining why higher-education is so expensive. [soylentnews.org] So, add "expensivest higher education" to your list of governmental inanities.
[14:38:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:31] <exec> 08└─Libertarians, particularly "anarcho-capitalists", do believe that those things should indeed be handled by the "free market". They make a good case, too.
[14:38:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:34] <exec> 08└─When the student loan bubble bursts, it will be written off (probably by Democrats, as a way to buy votes), and the federal government will keep printing/borrowing money to pretend it wasn't written off. Universities will suffer only in that they'll be forced to scale back after decades of sucking a...
[14:38:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 378 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:36] <exec> 08└─Name your country. If it's like almost all in Europe or even East Asia you spend almost nothing on the military to defend your country or keep order on the seas so global trade can continue because you push that job off onto the United States. The U.S. does the work AND pays for it too so you can sp...
[14:38:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:38] <exec> 08└─Rather, they rely on childless Anonymous Cowards who live with their parents to pay for their welfare programs.
[14:38:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:38:40] <exec> 08└─If you get a wife and she works, you have 2 incomes for the household instead of 1. That helps. I think your idea that one can never repay their student loans is malarkey. It sounds like you need to hustle to get a higher paying job within your field, too. Yes, it is cheaper to never have children,...
[14:40:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:39] <exec> 08└─Smells systematic imprisonment a long way. You can walk away anytime you like.. if you can find money to get food .. :P
[14:40:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:40:41] <exec> 08└─Well we aren't talking about a wife or girlfriend here, I was asking about dumping a glass of water on some stupid woman who lights up a cigarette in the non-smoking section (back in the time when we still had smoking and non-smoking sections). I guess "rarely prosecuted" is my answer (plus the exte...
[14:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:42] <exec> 08└─"Greek boy (who loves boys)" It's called "lust", not "love". If it were love, he would bend over and let the boys bone him. Pedarasty has nothing to do with love, unless it's self love. The boy involved is just an object, indistinguishable from any other sex toy.
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[15:36:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:21] <exec> 08└─Come on. Berners-Lee initially imagined the web as a directory of information for CERN. That's it.
[15:36:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:23] <exec> 08└─And he still largely sees the potential of the web, but the web has not turned out to be the complete cyber Utopian dream he had hoped.
[15:36:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:25] <exec> 08└─Come on. Berners-Lee initially imagined the web as a directory of information for CERN. That's it.
[15:36:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 1265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:27] <exec> 08└─Perhaps WWW should have HTML replaced with SGML which it tries to emulate anyway. Then the need for PDF and abused tables etc is lessened and techniques to do typesetting where there's no real support for that. Another approach is to go LaTeX over http. A script language is useful to eliminate serve...
[15:36:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:29] <exec> 08└─Haven't you heard? Excess salt can be bad for your health.
[15:36:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:31] <exec> 08└─Yes, but for online retail controlling the webserver is kinda important.
[15:36:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:44] <exec> 08└─I've been making that point for years, it's absolutely true. The Constitution just speaks of the rights of the people. It's not the law that says foreigners have no rights, but the law has to be applied by people, and we've become an ugly culture that no longer believes in rights or even understands...
[15:36:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:46] <exec> 08└─"By requiring a warrant to search Americans' devices and prohibiting unreasonable delay, this bill makes sure that border agents are focused on criminals and terrorists instead of wasting their time thumbing through innocent Americans' personal photos and other data."
[15:36:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:48] <exec> 08└─How about a transitive arrest rule? If you are standing next to someone being arrested, then you can be arrested. Repeat. Now the whole crowd can be arrested. Sort of like McCarthyism. If you are a communist sympathizer or a friend of one, then you are anti-American. If you know anyone who is anti-A...
[15:36:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:36:50] <exec> 08└─Shining city on the hill inDEED.
[15:37:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:17] <exec> 08└─so NOW we know why wolves died out: they ate reindeer that were walking in circles, dragging their hind legs and generally not able to run away from the hungry wolf. too bad the wolves got infected too .. or did they?
[15:37:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:51] <exec> 08└─"Allegedly" and the scare quotes are redundant...and "score" is 20 so 50 would be 2.5 scores. I think the headline is just wrong.
[15:37:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:53] <exec> 08└─One could argue that having your lungs and eyes get burned out is a bit more unpleasant than getting blown to smithereens, too.
[15:37:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:37:55] <exec> 08└─Sounds like it's time to look at actual evidence then.
[15:38:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:44] <exec> 08└─America is the most socialized country on Earth.
[15:38:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:38:45] <exec> 08└─It's better than 'free'. It's an investment that gives a positive return.
[15:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Goghit [6530] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Cyclone in Australia Could Disrupt Steel Production in Asia - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:46:14] <exec> 08└─Don't know about the U.S., but British Columbia considers Australia its main competitor for selling metallurgical coal into the Asian market. I can hear the drooling from here. I see that Australia, a continent that consists of an uninhabitable desert surrounded by a fringe of barely habitable shore...
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[20:45:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:56] <exec> 08└─Does M$ have anything to do with this recent escalation? Or is this business as usual? To be honest, I do not keep up with the Linux foundation itself, but had read something a few months back about MS making a move regarding it.
[20:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:58] <exec> 08└─In what world could statements like that from the idiots at The Linux Foundation be considered helpful to increase the use of Linux? And so classy of them to bury the post instead of discussing it.
[20:45:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:00] <exec> 08└─I knew people at red hat back in the early 00's and this was already a problem, red hat isn't the ms of linux they are the oracle, don't expect them to do anything that isn't making money. Like Ubuntu VC's got involved and there is no hope for anything reasonable after that. 4g killed the internet s...
[20:46:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:02] <exec> 08└─Greg Olson, the foundation's senior director open source consulting services
[20:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:05] <exec> 08└─As far as I know, Linus Torvalds owns the trademark Linux. Maybe he should revoke the Linux Foundation's right to use it.
[20:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:07] <exec> 08└─The Linux Foundation used to have membership tier for individuals and had two board positions elected by those individuals. All that was removed last year, so the Foundation is now officially just a big circle jerk for a dozen or so large corporations. Most of those corporations are not friends of f...
[20:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:09] <exec> 08└─Microsoft: Complete fucking train wreck. No privacy, No respect for the consumers, users, or developers. Apple: Complete fucking train wreck, but somehow beautiful and graceful with rounded edges while doing it. Not to mention shiny. If you mention privacy, they kick you in the balls. Controlled Com...
[20:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:11] <exec> 08└─If you mention privacy, they kick you in the balls.
[20:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:13] <exec> 08└─"...shipped suspenders with your DVD installation disks." wait do they ship you Ox blood boots for addition cost?
[20:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Soylentbob [6519] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 454 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:16] <exec> 08└─They are not Linux friends [wikipedia.org], they are industry exploiting Linux because they can't defeat it. Platin members: AT&T, Cisco Systems, Fujitsu Ltd, Hitachi, Huawei, IBM Corp., Intel Corp., Microsoft Corp., NEC Corp., Oracle Corp., Qualcomm Innovation Center Inc., Samsung Electronics Co. L...
[20:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:18] <exec> 08└─Red hat is the founding member and has a permanent seat on the board they do set policy
[20:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:26] <exec> 08└─Those evil terroristas that damaged and destroyed our land link to Europe. Now we must demand retroactive payment for that channel tunnel to repair the inconvenience. All these terrorizts.. where's the crusade when you need it!? :P
[20:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:28] <exec> 08└─Oh jeez, really? Who writes this shit?
[20:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:30] <exec> 08└─As usual, journalists. I didn't find mention of "Brexit" in the paper. So in this case, the culprit is Rebecca Morelle, Science Correspondent, BBC News. Sanjeev Gupta, Jenny S. Collier, et al are off the hook.
[20:46:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Funny) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:33] <exec> 08└─Apparently Rebecca Morelle does.
[20:46:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:35] <exec> 08└─Brexit was destined! UK England will always move away from Europe!
[20:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:37] <exec> 08└─People that have an agenda and need to bend science to make it stick. Geological changes tend to happen regardless of what the people living ontop thinks about it.
[20:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03BenJeremy [6392] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:39] <exec> 08└─We all know the world, the FLAT world, is only 6,000 years old. Attempts by liberal "scientists" to subvert this knowledge are just SAD.
[20:46:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 675 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:41] <exec> 08└─This is hardly a new discovery, it has long been known as a fact. Back before the breach that formed the Straits of Dover, the Thames, Seine, Rhine, and the other European rivers that now flow into the North Sea, all joined into a massive single river flowing north towards Scandanavia. This was damm...
[20:46:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:43] <exec> 08└─"This chance geological event, if it hadn't happened, would have meant Britain was always connected to the continent."
[20:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03MrNemesis [1582] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:45] <exec> 08└─It's not even news - note the paper is from 2007. Britain (the island[s], cos it's not a country) was connected to mainland europe by land during the last ice age, and there's been varying degrees of hypotheses, theories and (eventually) proof of such for over 100 years. Rising sea levels combined w...
[20:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:48] <exec> 08└─> damaged and destroyed our land link to Europe. Now we must demand retroactive payment for that channel tunnel to repair the inconvenience Definitely not written by a true Brit. The fact that the UK is detached from the continent is an critical element of the British psyche. Not being a "continenta...
[20:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:50] <exec> 08└─The researchers believe a large lake overflowed 450,000 years ago
[20:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:46:58] <exec> 08└─...a one-way trip to Poland.
[20:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:00] <exec> 08└─... at least they let you use the wi-fi at the black site to make that anonymous post.
[20:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:03] <exec> 08└─I wonder if there's any health insurance in that pile of schwag. No benefits, no HR costs, and no guarantee that someone working for them actually needs to be paid. No wonder corporations love the idea!
[20:47:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:05] <exec> 08└─The only non-schwag he has are shoes? Instead of buying that leather casting couch he could have bought shoes at Amazon instead. So many shoes ... I'm sure he could save his next gift card for that. “I’d much rather earn that money in two days so I don’t have to take the programming job for tw...
[20:47:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:07] <exec> 08└─He should start pimping. Better ROI :P
[20:47:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:09] <exec> 08└─First price was a sandwich (or more precisely half a sandwich)... There was one contestant.
[20:47:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:11] <exec> 08└─How was the sandwich?
[20:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Touché) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:24] <exec> 08└─Arguably the fact that he won a Turing award is more worthy of a story.
[20:47:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:25] <exec> 08└─Going out on a limb here, but if he called it "hypertext transport protocol" he maybe wanted to create a hypertext network. A Xanadu [wikipedia.org] implementation basically, and we know that radically simplified versions of visionary projects (smalltalk -> modern GUI, Lisa -> McIntosh, MULTICS -> U...
[20:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:28] <exec> 08└─I think HTML 5 is even more insidious than that: The did away with versioning. That means there is no series of tests you can run on your browser to say it is fully HTML 5 compliant: the "standard" my change next week. In practice, Google Chrome seems to be defining the standard. That may explain wh...
[20:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:30] <exec> 08└─Browsers are open source. It is possible to restrict what javascript can access. We just have to grow the balls to compile our own browsers again.
[20:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:32] <exec> 08└─Apparently from ~HTML 2.0 - 4.01, HTML was SGML [wikipedia.org] HTML was theoretically an example of an SGML-based language until HTML 5, which admits that browsers cannot parse it as SGML (for compatibility reasons) and codifies exactly what they must do instead. DocBook SGML and LinuxDoc are bette...
[20:47:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:34] <exec> 08└─That may explain why Mozilla is looking more and more like a Chrome clone.
[20:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:36] <exec> 08└─Yes it's pointing in that direction.. That privacy features seems to disappear in free and open webbrowsers seems to be more than a coincident..
[20:47:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:38] <exec> 08└─The good news about people being jackasses online: If they're busy being jackasses online, they aren't busy being jackasses offline. And while online harassment is a problem, it's less of a problem than real-world people-get-physically-hurt harassment.
[20:47:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:40] <exec> 08└─Come on. Berners-Lee initially imagined the web as a directory of information for CERN. That's it.
[20:47:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 17 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:43] <exec> 08└─Bot, is that you?
[20:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:45] <exec> 08└─I agree and disagree, online harassment can easily take a serious mental toll on many people. I doubt you're the type to mock someone who might get pushed over the edge of mental illness by people online, but with social media online harassment can easily be worse than in-person harassment.
[20:47:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:47] <exec> 08└─If you can't tell, the bot has won.
[20:47:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:49] <exec> 08└─Your Father was a hamster and your mother smelled of elderberries! Online harassment often comes with real world consequences get rid of things like facebork and we can go back to simple trolling but a lot of this stuff is being integrated into things that result in real physical violence and conseq...
[20:47:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:51] <exec> 08└─I have a feeling the online jackasses are too cowardly to be offline jackasses.
[20:47:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:53] <exec> 08└─Codify existing practice. The C++ committee has learned this the hard way, especially after the `export' keyword debacle. Most real-world things have to exist before they can be standardized.
[20:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:55] <exec> 08└─But my doctor said my bloodwork indicates I need more salt in my diet. :(
[20:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:47:58] <exec> 08└─I don't know about "more worthy" but worth mentioning: Tim Berners-Lee wins $1 million Turing Award [mit.edu] CSAIL researcher honored for inventing the web and developing the protocols that spurred its global use.
[20:47:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah, back in the day geeks could vent their frustrations and get some kicks trolling people and it was kind of just the expected culture. Horrific name-calling was (and still is) common with online gaming, and lots of older geeks don't understand why some of the more horrific insults / smack talk g...
[20:48:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 523 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:02] <exec> 08└─However, realistically, the ceiling for potential damage and trauma is much greater in person. Have you ever had someone threaten to kill you, being completely serious about it? If you haven't, consider yourself lucky, and realize that it is probably scarier to be told "I'm going to kill you" by som...
[20:48:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2, Disagree) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 677 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:04] <exec> 08└─People being offended is the problem. Pay no attention to ISIS-recruitment occuring on the clearnet over social media (and now, in person) in fucking Sweden. Those are not extremists. Murderers and those who support religiously and culturally motivated murder are not extremists. The REAL extremists...
[20:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:06] <exec> 08└─Sure, it is technically possible to disable this antifeature. Most of the web then ceases to work. First is the problem that almost all Javascript programs on the web are proprietary software. So running a free browser just so you can download and execute proprietary software kind of defeats the poi...
[20:48:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:08] <exec> 08└─If the web isn't the utopia you dreamed of, don't worry. All you did was create the foundation. It's Al Gore who wants to take credit for "creating the internet". So, if there are any problems with it; if there are "misogynist bullies who just get a kick out of being nasty", just tell everyone to bl...
[20:48:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:11] <exec> 08└─The most basic flaw is however that the whole system is built upon the model that a page is loaded from a specific server and downloaded to a client. This lets bad governments target [telegraph.co.uk] any server containing information they don't happen to fancy and hire former Stasi [eurocanadian.ca...
[20:48:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 1, Insightful) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:29] <exec> 08└─Is that where you've finally ended up? Anyone not American is a criminal or terrorist?
[20:48:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:30] <exec> 08└─Yes, and anyone American is a collaborator, a sympathizer or a potential subversive force. All of these must be contained!
[20:48:31] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 1874 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:32] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure many people realize how few protections against searches are afforded at an international border. The typical standards of the Fourth Amendment do not apply [wikipedia.org]. Basically, border officials have been able to ask you to open up anything and search anything, regardless of whet...
[20:48:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:34] <exec> 08└─If they want your phone data, something tells me they will find a way to get it. "Oh you just came through the Canadian border? Let's see what dirt _they_ have on you"
[20:48:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:37] <exec> 08└─Not to mention the seeming perception that the Constitution is something to be worked around rather than obeyed these days. Anyone who can't see that the data on electronic devices equates to "papers" in "persons, houses, papers, and effects" is being intentionally blind. But hey, we can be forced t...
[20:48:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:39] <exec> 08└─Better source than buzzfeed: thehill.com [thehill.com] For those of us willing to give support to the bill, contact your senators [senate.gov] and representatives. [house.gov] Mention the bill by name: Protecting Data at the Border Act
[20:48:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:41] <exec> 08└─Since it's not mentioned in the summary, the 4 privacy minded politicians who deserve some props: Ron Wyden (D) - Oregon Rand Paul (R) - Kentucky Jared Polis (D) - Colorado Blake Farenthold (R) - Texas Glad to see it's bi-partisan...
[20:48:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:43] <exec> 08└─That is nice to see. Also, perhaps to correct the summary, (or perhaps I'm wring): I don't think they can refuse entry to an American citizen for not providing passwords with things as they stand now, they can just be a pain in the ass, and seize and make copies of your devices. Non US citizens have...
[20:48:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:45] <exec> 08└─When I wonder is what obligation am I under to help them interpret the data they find. As far as I know I still have 1st and 5th amendment rights at the border and being an American I cannot be denied entry to my country.
[20:48:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:47] <exec> 08└─Wyden and Paul don't surprise me but I haven't heard of the other 2. Which being senators not from my state is probably a good thing since that means they likely aren't a giant flaming bags of stupid shit. This must mean that all 4 are terrorist loving alt-right commie Kenyan Muslim Klan fascists he...
[20:48:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:50] <exec> 08└─Also, for states where pot is still illegal, if a cop wants to search a car they can claim that they smell dope as soon as their target rolls down the window (one reason we know about this tactic is that many cops in Colorado and Oregon were complaining that they could no longer do this once pot was...
[20:48:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:52] <exec> 08└─Apparently, there's another piece of legislation in the works that would mandate all foreigners from countries such as the UK or France (or other EU member states) to hand over smart phones and social media passwords [theguardian.com] when entering the USA. To put this in perspective of the USA'ians...
[20:48:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:54] <exec> 08└─I've been making that point for years, it's absolutely true. The Constitution just speaks of the rights of the people. It's not the law that says foreigners have no rights, but the law has to be applied by people, and we've become an ugly culture that no longer believes in rights or even understands...
[20:48:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:48:56] <exec> 08└─The Constitution does not grant us rights, nor does the government. Our rights are "God-Given", and the Constitution exists to specify those unalienable rights against attack from the Government, which is subordinate to the Constitution, in principle, though it does interpret it. The issue is that p...
[20:49:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 406 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:08] <exec> 08└─> she patched Linux 4.12 for true DisplayPort compliance And I'm sure she was met with nothing but hostility and vitriol because of the inherent misogyny in tech. What's that? She wasn't? Well.. fuck. How about some good 'ol racism because she isn't white? None of that either? Damn it. It's almost l...
[20:49:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:14] <exec> 08└─That is probably the DRM fucking you over. (You using The Edge browser to get 4K instead of 720P?)
[20:49:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:16] <exec> 08└─Chrome, and from across the room I don't really care if it's 4K or 720p. Yeah, those could be DRM glitches on Netflix. When playing .mkv files back on Kodi, we get different glitches :(
[20:49:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:18] <exec> 08└─About a year ago, Intel's work force was "75 percent male and a combined 86 percent white and Asian." It's amazing how far they've come. http://wksu.org [wksu.org]
[20:49:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:21] <exec> 08└─Or, maybe she succeeded despite all that. It's pure conjecture either way.
[20:49:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 1602 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:23] <exec> 08└─Is there a problem to be solved? Do you understand the problem? Have you examined the existing system sufficiently to understand how it behaves, how it should behave, the difference between its current behaviour and the new desired behaviour and any other parts of the system that depend on the exist...
[20:49:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:25] <exec> 08└─As a guess, if they've moved beyond that, and are hiring in North America, to vary much from those number means they're practicing discriminatory hiring. Shouldn't their 'diversity' numbers be pretty close to those of university's graduation rates? Also, why lump "white and Asian" together?
[20:49:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score: 1) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:27] <exec> 08└─Exactly! Does Navare understand just how much damage she's done to the Misogynerd Narrative by focusing on her accomplishments?! We've got an AC modded to +4 because she didn't throw her hands up and scream sexual harassment the first question or concern some inferior assigned male scum dared to rap...
[20:49:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03kaszz [4211] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:29] <exec> 08└─In worldwide IQ surveys white and Asian people tend to come up with top scores. Being thing oriented and taking initiative also favors male think styles, ie also persons with female sex but male brain. Which makes the current employee mix become quite clear why it is as it is.
[20:49:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:31] <exec> 08└─You seem to like questions.
[20:49:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:34] <exec> 08└─Does it turn back on if you unplug and replug the displayport cable? For me, this forces it to come back to life. I'll look forward to it being fixed properly, since it's something which I've been annoyed by for years!
[20:49:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:36] <exec> 08└─And I'm sure she was met with nothing but hostility and vitriol because of the inherent misogyny in tech. What's that? She wasn't? Well.. fuck.
[20:49:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:38] <exec> 08└─Why?
[20:49:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Linux, Meet DisplayPort - 671 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:40] <exec> 08└─"Also, why lump "white and Asian" together?" Because Asian and European cultures are the hardest-working, most empirically, statistically, and demonstrably successful cultures on the planet who do not have obsessive victim complexes. Exemplia gratis, nobody cares that the Chinese were slaves, becaus...
[20:49:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:54] <exec> 08└─Is this just another variant of Mad Cow Disease? Is killing the animals sufficient? In the UK, they built special high-temperature incinerators to dispose of the corpses (or perhaps parts of the corpses), because the prions survive normal incineration.
[20:49:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0, Insightful) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:56] <exec> 08└─they need to focus on exterminating the muslims that are ruining scandanavia.
[20:49:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:49:58] <exec> 08└─The wolves eat the muscles and guts first. The highest odds of getting prions (in the CJD case) is by eating nerves and brain
[20:49:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:00] <exec> 08└─or else we wouldn't be having this discussion
[20:50:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:02] <exec> 08└─Is this just another variant of Mad Cow Disease?
[20:50:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Norway to Exterminate Reindeer Herd to Combat Chronic Wasting Disease - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:04] <exec> 08└─Prion basically means a protein/peptide that easily gets into a beta-sheet conformation and stacks together, forming the most energetically favorable structure it is possible for amino-acid chains to form. These are forming all the time in your cells, I guarantee it.
[20:50:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 666 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:19] <exec> 08└─Ships are a large market for hybrid/full electric. A lot of them have predictable drive cycles, and ships are capable of handling additional weight relatively easily. I interviewed for a job at XALT Energy a few years back and they were really excited about the European maritime market, particularly...
[20:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 2, Informative) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:21] <exec> 08└─That is BS because it does not release FOSSIL carbon. It is carbon neutral on human timescales, unlike burning fossil fuels. This is because large amounts of carbon tied up in trees and other plants are released when the reservoir is initially flooded and the plants rot. Then after this first pulse...
[20:50:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:23] <exec> 08└─The electric ferry makes a lot of sense, because you know exactly how far you go, and you can easily plug in to top off, since you always dock at the same place (either end or both ends). Maybe the first ship tunnel, but definitely not the first boat tunnel, by more than a hundred years https://en.w...
[20:50:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Norway Switching Fjord Ferries to Electric - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:25] <exec> 08└─No, "carbon neutral" means there's no net addition of carbon to the atmosphere, either because there's none added in the first place, or because carbon is removed. However, with a hydroelectric scheme, there's no process taking carbon out of the atmosphere--not until the reservoirs are abandoned and...
[20:50:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 370 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:36] <exec> 08└─Russia is saying that Syrian government aircraft attacked a rebel factory that was making chemical weapons. http://www.bbc.co.uk [bbc.co.uk] The Syrian Air Force has destroyed a warehouse in Idlib province where chemical weapons were being produced and stockpiled bef...
[20:50:40] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 539 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:40] <exec> 08└─When all sides are known to tell blatant lies, when all sides are more than willing to terrorize civilians, when all sides are perfectly capable of imagining a "false flag" operation - who do you believe? The Russians are perfectly capable of dropping a chemical weapon. So are the Syrians. The Ameri...
[20:50:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:49] <exec> 08└─Trump's response? Blame Obama! [nytimes.com] SAD
[20:50:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:52] <exec> 08└─Only one of those groups has actually done it, recently. Maybe you should start there...
[20:50:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 3, Informative) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:54] <exec> 08└─It's not wrong. "Scores" is a direct quote from the Reuters headline. The early death count was 58, so 2.9 "scores". "Allegedly" because we aren't 100% sure who did it. My headline is absolutely correct.
[20:50:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:56] <exec> 08└─Actual evidence? Given the chaos, good luck with that. I don't put it past any of the parties to run a "false flag" operation, which would include making the evidence point conveniently to someone else.
[20:50:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:50:58] <exec> 08└─White House press secretary Sean Spicer blamed the attack on the "weakness and irresolution" [cnn.com] of the previous U.S. administration.
[20:50:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:00] <exec> 08└─Welcome to 2017, when the more believable version of events comes from a "conspiracy site". This is what happened to Iraq in 2003, which was invaded despite surrendering their chemical weapons in the 1990s.
[20:51:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:02] <exec> 08└─exactly! [almasdarnews.com]
[20:51:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:04] <exec> 08└─Why not just go all the way and say (Allegedly Syrian Government) (Allegedly Kills) (Alleged Scores) with (Alleged Chemical Attack)
[20:51:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:07] <exec> 08└─Are you calling John Kerry a liar? [twitter.com]
[20:51:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:09] <exec> 08└─Sorry Assad you're on the wrong side (being Trump I would gang up with Syria and Putinland against ISIS first, but I think he is not as powerful to make such a decision).
[20:51:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:11] <exec> 08└─(Allegedly Syrian Government) (Allegedly Kills) (Alleged Scores) (Allegedly with) (Alleged Chemical Attack)
[20:51:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:13] <exec> 08└─I'm not questioning having the word "scores" in your title, I'm asking why you put the word in quotes to begin with? The Reuters article title says that scores were killed, but you say "scores" were killed. Why?
[20:51:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:15] <exec> 08└─Maybe the USA is not the centre of the Earth after all? Could be no-one getting bombed daily gives the tiniest shit who Bannon is or what Trump promises.
[20:51:26] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Shimitar [4208] 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1174 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:51:26] <exec> 08└─Let me get this straight, from those who believes that education should be left to free market. 1. Do not let government handle high level education, because it would be a waste of money 2. Education get so expensive, normal people needs to borrow truckloads of money to afford it 3. Profit from this...
[20:52:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 48 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:05] <exec> 08└─America is the most socialized country on Earth.
[20:52:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:07] <exec> 08└─Please, the US would do it anyway because it allows for global trade routes and cultural hegemony. Don't fucking kid yourself. And your argument would have been stronger maybe 20 years ago, but in case you hadn't noticed, the US is in the middle stages of a terminal decline.
[20:52:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:10] <exec> 08└─As many have pointed out it isn't the ideal "free market" which is the cause of problems, it's the various entities that abuse their power to manipulate the market. Free markets are like standard communism, in an ideal world everything would be peaches and cream, but n the real world you get people...
[20:52:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:12] <exec> 08└─With the current system where costs are unacceptable and out of control we have a massive glut of art/english/womens studies/non marketable degrees where people are stuck. These fields give back, but not enough that the graduates with these degrees are able to find jobs. Making education "free" will...
[20:52:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:14] <exec> 08└─Of course they love extended payment plans, they make more money on usury.
[20:52:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 624 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:16] <exec> 08└─Yes things cost a lot, and they are being paid for by the people. What is being suggested is that we lower the individual cost by spreading it around the whole country. It is an investment in the future of our society, something I would gladly pay a little more taxes for. Happiness index, health / e...
[20:52:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:18] <exec> 08└─Medicaid and Medicare are not Obamacare. They directly pay for peoples healthcare costs. They are 25% of the entire budget or America. I agree that all of these programs don't work.
[20:52:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:20] <exec> 08└─It's worse than that, yet. Medicare and Medicaid hide their perverse incentives and socialised burdens such that their actual budgets don't reveal their real burden on society. The headline budget amounts are basically an accounting lie.
[20:52:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:22] <exec> 08└─A free market is a market that is free from coercion. Note that the very foundation of a government is coercion—what makes an organization a "government" is the fact that said organization allocates resources through dictate rather than agreement; any activity that involves collusion with a govern...
[20:52:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 3, Interesting) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1024 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:25] <exec> 08└─Said i, here and now: I will pay higher taxes for intelligent things. I am Canadian and pay high taxes for free health care: i use it little and abuse it none... Luckily i am fairly healthy, but if i was to get cancer i would be cared for, for free. My wife seems to be more 'fragile' than me, but sh...
[20:52:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:27] <exec> 08└─So, if a soldier protecting oil America gets hurt, he shouldn't get free healthcare?
[20:52:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 288 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:29] <exec> 08└─Holy shit. My daughter has 30k in debt, and i cant believe that. I'd have a dump or two over your debt. Shit, i just crapped myself. Then again, if you are good at it an enjoy it,.... It maybe worth it to you. (Disclaimer: my daughter and son in law live with us to help them financially.
[20:52:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:31] <exec> 08└─No, the argument is just as true today. Most countries STILL rely on the United States for their defense and defense of shipping routes. Trump is encouraging them to take some of the burden off the US by either sharing more of the cost or by building up their own military, but all that is at this po...
[20:52:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 848 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:33] <exec> 08└─I am one of the lucky ones, I only spent three years after graduation to get an entry level job in accounting that four years later has turned into a real breadwinner. My wife and I are also fortunate to have a free place to live (temporarily) while we take care of an ailing grandparent. The debt lo...
[20:52:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:35] <exec> 08└─The Democrats had the power to produce a true socialized system a few years ago, but instead they passed the "Affordable Care Act" which continues the problematic interactions with third parties in U.S. healthcare that end up ballooning costs.
[20:52:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03corbets [6555] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:37] <exec> 08└─I'm afraid your inability to find a mate stems from much deeper causes than debt, as evidenced by your own post.
[20:52:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 909 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:40] <exec> 08└─Her dad worked for a place that sold electrical stuff, kind of like the electrical isles of a Home Depot or Lowes. He was out on the floor helping customers pick the right parts. Weird story: He helped the Boston Marathon bombers, who were looking for a switch, by directing them to a different store...
[20:52:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 447 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:42] <exec> 08└─Azuma, you are consistently the nastiest user on this web site. It's fine to disagree with someone, but you could try to keep it factual rather than turning every single post into a spewing of your personal bile. Your posts should be labelled Troll or Off Topic 80% of the time. I have no idea if you...
[20:52:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 585 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:44] <exec> 08└─American: I have freedom. I can say bad things about Trump. North Korean: I have freedom. I can say bad things about Trump. Shit, us Americans can loudly proclaim support or hatred of any religion or ethnicity. We can insult any leader, political or religious or otherwise. What we really need is fre...
[20:52:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 415 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:46] <exec> 08└─After they get all of their job applications rejected because their positions are being filled by immigrants or H1Bs, their political stances seem to polarize: Either they want jobs available to them so they can become self-sufficient, or they want a political candidate to enter the scene who will a...
[20:52:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:52:48] <exec> 08└─So, if a soldier protecting oil America gets hurt, he shouldn't get free healthcare?
[20:53:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:02] <exec> 08└─...closer look at the rings using Cassini before its demise. What a treat to know that we will be doing this and get to see the results so soon!
[20:53:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Cassini Spacecraft to Begin Diving Between Saturn and its Rings This Month - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:04] <exec> 08└─"Edwin.... Come here! I want to play Descent!" I loved Descent. Wish i could have played it with Brian Blessed, although i would have had to have my ear plugs in for sure.
[20:53:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:35] <exec> 08└─No, it only tells you what they claim they're thinking. Nothing more.
[20:53:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 2460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:37] <exec> 08└─One of the issues they don't seem to touch on is where are you going to get the data, are the people with the data going to want to share or are these Sociologists going to have to get a job at like Facebook or Google and if they do those reports are going to be like smoking reports put out by tobac...
[20:53:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:39] <exec> 08└─Just 'cause it's hard doesn't mean it's not science.
[20:53:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sociologists Urge Use of Big Data to Study Human Interaction - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:53:41] <exec> 08└─Are we seeing the beginnings of Psychohistory, as detailed by Asimov ? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:54:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 495 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:54:59] <exec> 08└─This is so true. There is a significant difference between the productive telecommuter and the office social butterflies that can't be trusted to sit at their desk even when they are physically at the office. Forcing them to sit there means that something will get done once the distractions availabl...
[20:55:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:01] <exec> 08└─No one, and I mean NO ONE will return your calls if you are not even in the same state. Number in my local area? 3 jobs to submit anything to. Got an onsite out of 2 of them. If you think they are picky in a big city you have seen nothing like those in a small city.
[20:55:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:03] <exec> 08└─What the fuck is a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration???
[20:55:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:05] <exec> 08└─Although I'd be embarrassed to say I worked for a company named HappyFunCorp, I checked out their 'Careers' page. Every position listed specified that you must reside in or be willing to commute to NYC.
[20:55:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:07] <exec> 08└─lol... 2nd amendment... yeah that's a priority when looking for a job. also if they ban homosecsurals from molesting baby girls in the ladies toilets.
[20:55:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:10] <exec> 08└─The SYSTEM totally wants to stop you growing carrots, dude. That's what the the alien hieroglyphs were warning us about in the pyramids.
[20:55:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:12] <exec> 08└─Perhaps the "best*" cities become the most expensive.
[20:55:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:14] <exec> 08└─That was a pretty ignorant comment. Why did you bother with it? Is it supposed to be a form of humor to attempt to portray people who acknowledge the second amendment for what it is, as stupid bigots? If that is the case, then it was neither funny nor insightful. You should be embarrassed that you t...
[20:55:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 903 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:16] <exec> 08└─I assume you are the same AC from above. Again, you're pushing your anti-gun agenda to ensure you've been heard. Again, your comment was a waste of disk space. You didn't care to offer a thought out opinion, it was an attempt at poor humor to degrade people who don't believe precisely as you do. I a...
[20:55:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:55:37] <exec> 08└─Shouldn't that be 640 kW? :-)
[20:58:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:17] <exec> 08└─Sorry, I am dismissing your post. But someone already said, there is a difference between the art of trolling, and bomb (or Milo) throwing. Trolling for Social Justice is meant to provoke actual discussion, not shut it down as you have done here.
[20:58:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:19] <exec> 08└─Seems like we've had a lot of posts for a shut down discussion. Maybe you count differently than I do.
[20:58:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:21] <exec> 08└─you should have told him that anyone that let's the government control his/her/it marriage is a pitiful slave and deserves the various injustices that invariably come with a master/slave relationship. stupid socialists think government can be planned into fairness. It's impossible to make this relat...
[20:58:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:23] <exec> 08└─what ruins a site like this is when all the commenters argue about bullshit details that don't matter instead of offer their insights regarding the point of the story. this one is titled "Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations" not "are disgusting attention whores real news...
[20:58:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:25] <exec> 08└─a lot of posts for a shut down discussion. Maybe you count differently
[20:58:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 145 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:27] <exec> 08└─S'true. I was shooting for discussion both on the article's subject and on the source. Which I got, so I'm not inclined to adjust my methodology.
[20:58:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Octopus Tentacle Serves as Inspiration for Gripper - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:58:49] <exec> 08└─Japan is jealous...KYAAAAAA!!!!!
[20:59:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06Xbox One Exploit Proof of Concept Released, Based on Chakra Exploit - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:10] <exec> 08└─Privacy is something that Firefox could and should emphasise. Being not-for-profit, they're uniquely placed to be the browser for the privacy-aware, but doubtless they'll instead continue trying and failing to be Chrome.
[20:59:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Xbox One Exploit Proof of Concept Released, Based on Chakra Exploit - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:59:11] <exec> 08└─Good links, thanks. I do stand by what I said about emphasis on security though. It's shit like this. [securityzap.com]
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[21:46:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:04] <exec> 08└─As long as it has a full size keyboard, 8Gb RAM and 500Gb disk, I'll be getting that shiny iPhone ASAP.
[21:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:06] <exec> 08└─I'm with you, but I think we may be outnumbered...
[21:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03KiloByte [375] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:08] <exec> 08└─A "smart"phone without a keyboard is no good for anything but status updates on this week's Myspace's remake. That's about the limit of usefulness of a touchscreen -- but that's what most kids use their phones for. N900 was an awesome device, I'm using it to this day. There's no replacement -- Neo90...
[21:46:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:10] <exec> 08└─I also think we're outnumbered. I teach high school English, and it's becoming more common to hear students complain about writing essays because "it takes forever to type on my iPad. Can I do a video presentation instead?"
[21:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:12] <exec> 08└─I just bought our team new MacBook Pros. I wish I would have seen this article before I bought them. Now what are we going to do with them? I guess I should have checked what the kids are doing these days before making a corporate purchase.
[21:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:15] <exec> 08└─No no, see what we're doing? It's called a grass roots movement. I've heard these are very effective when given millions of dollars in funding and outsourced to cheap foreign countries.
[21:46:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:17] <exec> 08└─If they just brought back the Netbook I guess they could do at least some of that - ok perhaps not the full size keyboard unless you are some kind of midget with tiny hands (still it's going to be better then that onscreen crap on the phone).
[21:46:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:19] <exec> 08└─Read this report as people do not want Windows 10 and the Mac has returned to the art dept niche. I maintain that 90% of people never wanted Windows, never liked Windows and bolted at the very first opportunity, to netbooks, tablets and now phones. Anything to avoid the nightmare that is Windows tha...
[21:46:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:21] <exec> 08└─Don't forget the 21' screen!
[21:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:23] <exec> 08└─The motorcycle has killed the sedan automobile. I think not.
[21:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:26] <exec> 08└─Tell 'em if they can afford an iPad vs a $200 laptop, they can afford a Bluetooth keyboard to make it usable for school work.
[21:46:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:28] <exec> 08└─I'm just glad it wasn't a story about martyb/Bytram's laptop. Only one I'd currently have to donate is a Pentium 133MHz. Without an ethernet port. Or USB ports. Still works though.
[21:46:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:30] <exec> 08└─Tell them that in the real world you don't get to turn in video presentations to your boss, unless that is what was specifically asked for. Or unless you are becoming a member of the Owning Classes or their Toms, and then you pick up a cushy executive job after fucking off at an Ivy league school fo...
[21:46:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:32] <exec> 08└─Even if you assume this nonsense is true, I'd wager that extended time spent "typing" on a tablet or smartphone will likely lead to some significant Repetitive Strain Injury.
[21:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Koen [427] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:51] <exec> 08└─As far as I know, Linus Torvalds owns the trademark Linux.
[21:46:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:53] <exec> 08└─Corporate thinking. They want to take and not give back. For several reasons. Random people poking through their code and finding glaring security issues. Competitors "stealing" their work (hah!). Forced to give away part of the product free.
[21:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:55] <exec> 08└─Sure, there's a lot of big companies exploiting Linux for their own ends on that list, but even so they do make contributions [soylentnews.org] from time to time, and some of them can be extremely useful. Well, most of them do, there are definitely a few that are indeed just downright hostile to FOS...
[21:46:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:46:57] <exec> 08└─RedHat is the company that brought you Gnome3 and systemd.
[21:46:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:00] <exec> 08└─I would love to move my parents to ReactOS... but the system is still unusable for everyday work.
[21:47:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Scientists Find Evidence of a "Geological Brexit" - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:47:19] <exec> 08└─No, probably during the Cameroon. Heh heh, wait... what the FUCK are you talking about, cunt!
[21:50:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:50:21] <exec> 08└─Weakness and irresolution. Then tha answer is to send thousands of Americans to die in Syria to protect.... This will prove that Trump^W Americans is a Strong Leader.
[21:51:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 1049 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:33] <exec> 08└─I agree about women rejecting men "below her station", but that isn't just about current net worth. It includes social class, education, and future earnings potential. The wise approach to this is to chase after undergraduate freshmen while you are an undergraduate senior, marrying one right around...
[21:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score: 1) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 846 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:34] <exec> 08└─As many have pointed out it isn't the ideal "free market" which is the cause of problems, it's the various entities that abuse their power to manipulate the market. Free markets are like standard communism, in an ideal world everything would be peaches and cream, but n the real world you get people...
[21:51:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:51:37] <exec> 08└─Oh cry harder, you whiny little manbaby. Eth is a troll; he's doing it for the lulz. I am deadly serious. And hey, guess what? Nasty doesn't mean wrong, nice doesn't mean right, and plenty of things *deserve* nasty. Like this content-free tone whinge, for example. How about you either address what y...
[21:53:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:53:53] <exec> 08└─It took me hours to realize
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[22:46:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:06] <exec> 08└─As long as it has a full size keyboard, 8Gb RAM and 500Gb disk, I'll be getting that shiny iPhone ASAP
[22:46:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kunasou [4148] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:07] <exec> 08└─I work everyday using a laptop and it's alive. And millenials will have to work someday and probably they'll use a laptop, desktop, PoS...
[22:46:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:09] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, kids are being trained for the supposed world of the future where tablets are the only thing. My own kids have mandatory school issued iPads and about half of their work is assigned and turned in on them. I find it utterly infuriating. But at least at home they have a real computer.
[22:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ticho [89] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:11] <exec> 08└─Lot of the smartphone-using kids will be using a "would you like fries with that?" PoS terminal with pictures on buttons anyway, they're well prepared for that. :)
[22:46:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 542 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:13] <exec> 08└─How many companies are still making laptops? Acer, ASUS, Lenovo, Apple, Dell, Samsung, HP, MSI, Razer. Not sure about Sony. You can get a good laptop for $300-400 and a great one for $700-800 (4K, 12-16 GB RAM, etc.) If the market continues to decline, we'll have at least a couple of years of great...
[22:46:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:16] <exec> 08└─Yeah, both kids in this household have a laptop. Can't play Starcraft on a tablet properly.
[22:46:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 2042 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:18] <exec> 08└─Well, no, not really. Sadly, the 99.5% that are the focus of this piece never cared what OS was installed. They wanted something from the store that worked when they turned it on. The reason they are going the route of phone only isn't because of android/ios, it is because the only use they ever put...
[22:46:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:20] <exec> 08└─Tell 'em if they can afford an iPad vs a $200 laptop, they can afford a Bluetooth keyboard to make it usable for school work.
[22:46:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:22] <exec> 08└─The new phones have cameras that rival DSLRs. They have performance that rivals desktop PCs. They run increasingly amazing apps, including professional-quality apps.
[22:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:24] <exec> 08└─As long as it has a full size keyboard, 8Gb RAM and 500Gb disk
[22:46:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 1154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:46:27] <exec> 08└─Slow news day Soylent? You choose to post this crap over the story of the walking colostomy bag being removed from the NSC? I stopped reading at this gem: "The new phones have cameras that rival DSLRs. They have performance that rivals desktop PCs." Cameras that rival DSLRs? Written by someone who h...
[22:47:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nuke [3162] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:58] <exec> 08└─the web has not turned out to be the complete cyber Utopian dream he had hoped
[22:48:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Sir Tim Berners-Lee Talks about the Web Again - 840 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:00] <exec> 08└─As far as misinformation is concerned no technology can fix stupid. If you're going to believe that #Pizzagate happened in the basement of a building that was built on a slab, technology will do nothing more than to exacerbate the issue by allowing others to feed you more stupid, causing you to beli...
[22:48:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06New Bill Would Outlaw Warrantless Phone Searches At The Border - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:48:32] <exec> 08└─I have often wondered about one going about challenging claims like this in court.
[22:49:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 549 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:49:54] <exec> 08└─New Scientist has a rebuttal to the Russian statement: [...] sarin is unstable, and the Assad regime chose to stockpile its precursor chemical, which would be mixed with another chemical just before use to produce sarin. Any rebel-made agent would probably be handled similarly. Hitting a cache of t...
[22:50:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:14] <exec> 08└─Another article said something like 100+ killed, and I believe another article put it around 15. Let's not read too much into it.
[22:50:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:16] <exec> 08└─Only one 'allegedly' is needed. Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack Syrian Government (Does|Does Not) Kill "Scores" with Chemical Attack Either way, it's correct.
[22:50:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:50:18] <exec> 08└─How are we as a country supposed to combat terrorists and dictators when our leaders' first response is not against them, but against fellow Americans?
[22:51:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:33] <exec> 08└─You know, there's an AC who says similar if less coherent stuff in pretty much every post he makes here. You and he might get along real well.
[22:51:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:34] <exec> 08└─Nasty doesn't mean "right" either, Azuma. It's just... nasty. Orthogonal to right and wrong, unnecessary, and brings down the atmosphere of this website. Too much of the web is uncivil; it would be nice if we could make Soylent better than the rest.
[22:51:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:37] <exec> 08└─OK, well I am not going to go reading old article's AC comments looking for this guy. If you have someone you want me to meet, link to some of the comments.
[22:51:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 819 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:39] <exec> 08└─Sure, it would be nice, but when the place is infected with real honest to God sociopaths like J-Mo, "nice" just gets you trampled on in contempt. There is an information war on. People like him see you acting civil and "nice" and they just think you're weak (they probably mentally refer to you as "...
[22:51:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:51:41] <exec> 08└─Oh he's all over the place. Can't mistake him. Just look for any comment referencing a certain book of Old Testament law, referring to Jesus as "the Adversary," and deliberately misspelling "country." You both seem to want to stick it in underage girls, so I figure you'd have a lot to talk about.
[22:54:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03hamsterdan [2829] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Daimler, Parts Firm Bosch Team Up to Make Driverless Cars - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:54:18] <exec> 08└─1 HP is 746 watts, A full-fledged PC will draw not more than that, even if it draws 1500 watts, that's about only 2 HP. a full-sized Panther Grand Marquis requires about 40 HP to keep speed on highways. I can't imagine a full AI car computer drawing more than 2Kw, that's about 3HP.
[22:57:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Wikileaks Releases Code That Could Unmask CIA Hacking Operations - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:57:05] <exec> 08└─If you disbelieve polls, what makes you think you're a majority?
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[23:45:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows NTP Time Service Sends Wrong Time to Users Worldwide - 642 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:56] <exec> 08└─That's why I use my own NTP server for time, even if you're using a non-spyware version of Windows there are still various services that phone home at different times, of which W32Time is the most obvious one. So I've got a GPS-disciplined FE-5680 rubidium frequency standard (you can get them on eBa...
[23:45:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03SomeGuy [5632] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Windows NTP Time Service Sends Wrong Time to Users Worldwide - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:57] <exec> 08└─That's what happens when everyone does it the same way. One fackup and suddenly all the clocks in the world are blinking "12:00".
[23:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Windows NTP Time Service Sends Wrong Time to Users Worldwide - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:59] <exec> 08└─Unhappy admins found their servers launching routines early or too late, botching scripts and crashing their applications.
[23:46:21] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 261 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:21] <exec> 08└─All four cores of my i7-3632QM broke out laughing at that. It's creepy and echoey since this thing's hyperthreaded, so it almost but not quite sounds like 8 people laughing. I guess ridiculing stupid clickbait is one of those embarrassingly parallel problems :D
[23:46:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:33] <exec> 08└─Lot of the smartphone-using kids will be using a "would you like fries with that?" PoS terminal with pictures on buttons anyway, they're well prepared for that. :)
[23:46:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 3, Insightful) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 692 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:35] <exec> 08└─Not to mention a screen of adequate size. My main workstation as dual screens, fairly large. And I frequently fill up the real estate with multiple open text editors. The problem with this whole article is it assumes everyone has nothing better to do than trade cat pictures and tweets. Says more abo...
[23:46:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:37] <exec> 08└─I thought this was true too, but then I managed to get my hands on a GPD Win 5.5. It's currently Windows only but some folks have managed to get Arch Linux working on it, and they have a Linux device in the works which means there might be better Linux support down the line (since a lot of the h/w o...
[23:46:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score: 4, Touché) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:39] <exec> 08└─Millennials have been working for 15+ years.
[23:46:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03frojack [1554] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:41] <exec> 08└─A "smart"phone without a keyboard is no good for anything but status updates on this week's Myspace's remake. That's about the limit of usefulness of a touchscreen -
[23:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03its_gonna_be_yuge! [6454] (Score: 1) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:43] <exec> 08└─Netcraft confirmed this years ago
[23:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:46] <exec> 08└─... or at least an OS that lets *you* decide what you can run. Apple has done immense damage to this ability.
[23:46:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:48] <exec> 08└─I'm with you, but I think we may be outnumbered...
[23:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:50] <exec> 08└─My main workstation as dual screens, fairly large. And I frequently fill up the real estate with multiple open text editors.
[23:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:52] <exec> 08└─This comment being typed on a 4K 40" monitor, full of windows of code, scrolling compile outputs, waveforms, PDF references, control widgets... Let's turn it on its head: are kids properly preparing for their future jobs, if their input and output fit in a 5.5 inch screen (minus a third for the keyb...
[23:46:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: -1, Troll) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:54] <exec> 08└─We are way outnumbered. Smart phones are designed specifically for niggers and there are an increasing number of niggers.
[23:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 626 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:57] <exec> 08└─It does sound infuriating that a school - which is supposed to help people educate themselves and encourage self-sufficiency - is aiding and promoting non-free proprietary user-subjugating software. Proprietary software doesn't allow for education, since no one but the developers can see the source...
[23:46:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demose [6067] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:46:59] <exec> 08└─Sony sold their laptop division a few months ago, can't remember who to though.
[23:47:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 306 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:01] <exec> 08└─Ditto. They should have phrased the statement as a question to make it obvious that Betteridge's Law was in effect. The article is basically some snowflake whining about his Macbook, and Apple in general, and rhapsodising about how great Samsung has said things will be at some point in the future. S...
[23:47:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Laptop is Dead - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:03] <exec> 08└─I stopped reading at this gem: "The new phones have cameras that rival DSLRs. They have performance that rivals desktop PCs." Cameras that rival DSLRs? Written by someone who has never seen, let alone used...
[23:47:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 1083 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:16] <exec> 08└─Microsoft: Complete fucking train wreck. No privacy, No respect for the consumers, users, or developers. Apple: Complete fucking train wreck, but somehow beautiful and graceful with rounded edges while doing it. Not to mention shiny. If you mention privacy, they kick you in the balls. Controlled Com...
[23:47:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03pnkwarhall [4558] (Score: 2) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:27] <exec> 08└─The GPL is "viral" by design. Use of this word does not (necessarily) imply a negative perspective on the license, but a true understanding of Stallman's intent. I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone at the Linux Foundation to bring this up publicly.
[23:47:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:29] <exec> 08└─Don't be silly. Who ever heard of a positive or neutral virus? Besides it's entirely inaccurate or do you catch viruses by choice and with full knowledge of what it entails? Linux Foundation is a bunch of jerks with lots of money. Apparently a fairly myopic mob too...
[23:47:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06The Linux Foundation: Not a Friend of Desktop Linux, the GPL, or Openness - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:47:31] <exec> 08└─Linux Foundation is using it in the HIV spirit of the term.
[23:48:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06These Hackathon Hustlers Make Their Living From Corporate Coding Contests - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:48:04] <exec> 08└─No one won :(
[23:51:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score: 2) 02 - 06Syrian Government Allegedly Kills "Scores" with Chemical Attack - 669 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:00] <exec> 08└─"In war, truth is always the first casualty." - Aeschylus And this is no different. Including the nonsense of Obama being "weak": That guy launched more drone strikes than anybody ever had before. The problem the Obama administration had in Syria is that Hillary Clinton decided it was a good idea to...
[23:51:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03khallow [3766] 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 850 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:51:15] <exec> 08└─Let me help. Point 2) follows from decades of government interference in higher education. In a world of vast overproduction of academicians what is driving the cost of education several times faster than normal inflation? Answer, government-backed student loans. In a rational world, the mediocre st...
[23:52:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 295 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:52:20] <exec> 08└─I admit that it would be easier on me if I logged in with a username, but on principle, I use an anonymous account. The Net has turned into a massive tracking machine, and I want no part of that. Everyone is free to decide how much privacy they want, and that's where I personally draw the line.
[23:52:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score: 2) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:52:22] <exec> 08└─I hope like hell you're hiding out behind a chain of proxies then...
[23:52:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06A New Look at the Lasting Consequences of Student Debt - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:52:24] <exec> 08└─I say it every election day. The only way the people I vote for can enact the changes that convince me to vote for them is to tax people like me and richer more.
[23:54:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score: 0) 02 - 06Why Do Developers Flock to the World’s Most Expensive Cities? - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:54:42] <exec> 08└─Assault? You were putting out a potentially very dangerous fire!
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