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[00:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Too Light - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:09:57] <exec> 08└─I've never met a beetle I couldn't squish. I'm not sure I'd want their armor.
[00:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Too Light - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 341 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:58] <exec> 08└─Are you using your bare hands or feet, or are you squishing them between your teeth or under a shoe? Assuming you're human, you can exert pressures that are thousands of times a beetle's body weight. Rhinoceros beetles can carry (with difficulty) 100 times their own body weight. https://en.wikipedia...
[00:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:What! - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:13] <exec> 08└─True if you drive a Lotus Elise (or similar) on midwest roads in the summer. You also need a full body massage or a new back every few hours.
[00:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 1333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:26] <exec> 08└─I haven't heard of that. Interesting though. I only actually eat maybe 500-1000 calories a day in food. People keep telling me it's unhealthy, but I don't actually get hungry for much more than that. And that's not a small McDonald fries a day and then starving the rest of the day or anything like t...
[00:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 443 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:27] <exec> 08└─I try to hit 800-900 per day. At 1200-1700 I maintain. At about 2200 I start to gain. I used a tracker to find out those numbers. Now I dont use it at all anymore as I know what to avoid. The fitness trackers can be nice as reminders to actually DO the thing. Making a game out of it. But you can go...
[00:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:30] <exec> 08└─Like eating 5k at dinner but you are good because you had a 32oz diet coke for lunch.
[00:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:32] <exec> 08└─If you include dessert, I'll bet the aforementioned large friend I have gets close to that without trying. He makes some rich fucking food and likes appetizers when he eats out. Back when I still used myFitnessPal, I'd poke in on his progress and see 2500 calories on dinner alone, and then 2 earlier...
[00:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've never understood the lagging software - 06VR Gaming Comes to Linux - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:46] <exec> 08└─There are so many people who would devote much of their free time and resources to getting that brilliance, if only they weren't arbitrarily restricted from knowing how to proceed. This world could be so much more advanced than it is; alas, people are afraid to work with each other.
[00:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:so, are the quotes merited? - 06Soyuz-U Retrospective - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:57] <exec> 08└─makes it a true engineering marvel, and one of the best pieces of tech ever designed
[00:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Can't Wait - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:32] <exec> 08└─I imagine that they'll both have decent Linux drivers by then.
[00:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:06] <exec> 08└─It's gonna take a lot of trashing the Earth to make Venus look hospitable by comparison... Old one: European beer is the best thing to carry on long trips, because you drink it once and turn it into American beer.
[00:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:12:12] <exec> 08└─If we find life outside of this solar system, chances are good we'll find it here first.
[00:13:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just wait - 06Child Obesity "35-40 Percent" Inherited From Parents - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:13:15] <exec> 08└─Extracorporeal food stores can serve the same purpose, and if they're taken from me it won't mean my immediate death.
[00:14:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wealth of funny wording choices - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:01] <exec> 08└─The point still stands that you can't really die "instantly" from a drawn-out assault.
[00:14:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:state actor? - 06Hackers Who Took Control of PC Microphones Siphon >600 GB From 70 Targets - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:22] <exec> 08└─the NSA built that massive DC Imagine what a huge data center must be needed to store 600 GB of recordings!
[00:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:state actor? - 06Hackers Who Took Control of PC Microphones Siphon >600 GB From 70 Targets - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:24] <exec> 08└─That's misdirection, as a real Frenchie would say du jour...unless GP is actually French but pretending to be pretending to be French.
[00:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But, but .... - 06Thousands of Spills at US Oil and Gas Fracking Sites - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:37] <exec> 08└─Thorium is good, fusion is better, evaporating black holes is better still, and charm-anticharm annihilation is best.
[00:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Random Thoughts - 06Thousands of Spills at US Oil and Gas Fracking Sites - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:07] <exec> 08└─What the hell? Frakking can be used for gas and oil. I would prefer investment in nuclear (the modern less-dangerous designs, thorium reactor research, etc) along with solar/wind/hydro/tidal. Why are you so bent out of shape over this?
[00:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Random Thoughts - 06Thousands of Spills at US Oil and Gas Fracking Sites - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:08] <exec> 08└─Methane doesn't persist in the atmosphere as long as does carbon dioxide, but it absorbs infrared light more strongly, so that it has a greater greenhouse warming potential. In the United States, perhaps more than 2% of natural gas produced is lost to leaks. An industry initiative is striving to red...
[00:15:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No kidding, shared operating rooms? - 06Microsoft Partnership Aims to Redesign Operating Rooms Using HoloLens - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:15:55] <exec> 08└─Operating rooms are expensive. Between the expensive equipment, the whole cleanliness thing, and the inability to use them for, I dunno, break rooms, they're expensive single taskers. I can see how doing minor re-configs between surgeries might be useful, but you'll never see a dedicated urologic, c...
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[01:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Quantized? - 06Quantum Limits to Heat Flow Observed at Room Temperature - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:09:59] <exec> 08└─The picowatt resolution they achieved is 100 times finer than their previous devices, enabling them to observe quantized heat flow properties in gold.
[01:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Too Light - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:10] <exec> 08└─*exert forces, not pressures
[01:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Too Light - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:11] <exec> 08└─On the other side, a beetle can fall from a height many hundred times its dimension and survive.
[01:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Photos or it didn't happen - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:10:13] <exec> 08└─N/T
[01:10:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03weeds [611] 02Re:What! - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 36 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:24] <exec> 08└─It already made your wallet thinner!
[01:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Automagic - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:32] <exec> 08└─Muscle is denser than fat, so if they're building muscles then they're gaining weight.
[01:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:46] <exec> 08└─A single 2,500 calorie meal per day might be sufficient for some people. I don't see ~5,000 calories triggering weight loss in anyone who isn't an Olympian. Maybe it could be part of a fasting + overeating weekly scheme.
[01:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:47] <exec> 08└─> A single 2,500 calorie meal per day might be sufficient for some people. Most guidelines say about 2200 per day for a man, with some fuzzy footnotes about activity and morphological variations... So I think your "some" should really be "the vast majority of", knowing that it's actually too much fo...
[01:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 461 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:49] <exec> 08└─5k? Is not very hard to hit. Most fast food dinners easy hit 1500 by themselves. The portions to get there are not even that much. Add in double portion some desert because you have been 'good today'. Then add in a pre-meal appetizer, salad with a good amount of ranch dressing, and a few condiments....
[01:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:so, are the quotes merited? - 06Soyuz-U Retrospective - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:15] <exec> 08└─Now you've got me thinking about App-like Agile Sprint-based rocket development: "Sure, version 0.9.4 released the satellite from second stage before igniting the engine, but we clearly fixed the high-priority bug that had blown the previous one at 50km AND it was 25% closer to the expected flight p...
[01:12:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] 02Apes and Angels - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 2799 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:30] <exec> 08└─> (That also assumes that at exactly 400 years from now, there's a civilization in power on one of those planets that's also capable of receiving and interpreting this signal and replying. One of the quirks of the vastness of cosmological time, is that if we find intelligent life out there capable o...
[01:16:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Standards? - 06Microsoft Partnership Aims to Redesign Operating Rooms Using HoloLens - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:16:05] <exec> 08└─That's interesting. How many prepubescent members do we have on this site?
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[02:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03slap [5764] (Score:1) 02My fitness device - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:58] <exec> 08└─My fitness device is my watch. It's a Seiko chronometer, and I use the stopwatch to time my planks. Since I do the plank first and leave it running, it also gives me the total exercise time.
[02:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 0274.5% completed a 24month routine successfully?! - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:10:59] <exec> 08└─Interventions: Participants were placed on a low-calorie diet, prescribed increases in physical activity, and had group counseling sessions. At 6 months, the interventions added telephone counseling sessions, text message prompts, and access to study materials on a website. At 6 months, participants...
[02:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:nVIDIAaaaaaaaaaaaaa! - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:39] <exec> 08└─Just in case you missed it: https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org]
[02:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I've been waiting for this... - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:55] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure if we reported on this, but Intel will miss even the tick-tick-tock or whatever they were calling it. They will be doing 14nm for a fourth generation of chips.
[02:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Can't Wait - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:03] <exec> 08└─I'm not one to initially adapt a new processor, but I imagine that [AMD Ryzen and Vega will] have decent Linux drivers by [2018].
[02:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:SN folding@home - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:07] <exec> 08└─I like how cmn has about a third of the overall points, runaway over a fifth, malloc_free over a tenth, leaving the rest of us far behind in the dust. Anybody after the 14th is sub-1%...
[02:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 829 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:12:44] <exec> 08└─The James Webb Space Telescope can study it in 2019. NASA research has led to medical advances. NASA has an annual publication showing off benefits of their research called Spinoff [nasa.gov]. A small amount of resources is spent on space travel. Hundreds of millions of people have been lifted out o...
[02:14:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mhajicek [51] 02Re:Nine Lives - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 34 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:14] <exec> 08└─I'm imagining the tootsie pop owl.
[02:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03chewbacon [1032] (Score:2) 02Re:And the Result? - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:14:38] <exec> 08└─Such a senseless death. Everyone knows AMD graphics suck.
[02:14:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Better a graphics card than a dumb smartphone - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:14:41] <exec> 08└─Wow, these Russians are so much more advanced killing each other over real computer graphics cards. Here in rAtlanta, almost every day some nigger shoots someone for their stupid toy iPhone.
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[03:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:02] <exec> 08└─Seriously, do you think now is the right time to achieve an international consensus on how to name anything, especially something as important as a major planet? We need an Italian astronomer to find it, so he can name it after a Roman God for consistency... Otherwise it's going to be a fight of abs...
[03:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:03] <exec> 08└─We should name it Colossus. Or maybe a name that reflects its irregular orbit and hypothetical status as a "captured rogue planet".
[03:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Automagic - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:40] <exec> 08└─Watch it do what? Collect dust?
[03:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02I have a FitBit - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:03] <exec> 08└─Since getting one I managed to drop from over 88 kg to 74 kg since August of 2016. However, I think it’s more thanks to the FitBit app’s integrated calorie tracking feature that this has happened. The fitness tracking of my watch gives me a baseline estimate for how many calories I have consumed...
[03:11:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:so, are the quotes merited? - 06Soyuz-U Retrospective - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:29] <exec> 08└─Yeah. If I wanted to make it scare-quotey, I would instead write: The story calls it the "longest-serving" rocket in history. or better yet: The story calls it the longest-serving "rocket" in history.
[03:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:I've been waiting for this... - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 514 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:59] <exec> 08└─What about ECC? My issue with intel seems that they've been restricting ECC memory support to the Xeons, but with desktop / gaming rigs hitting 32GB+ RAM and beyond and all the press about memory errors, comic ray induced bit flips, and even rowhammer (which ECC doesn't outright stop but allegedly u...
[03:12:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I came to post exactly this! - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 936 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:13] <exec> 08└─There is no reason they couldn't make the X models unkeyed and just use writelocking of the BIOS to ensure security, except for 3rd party DRM implementations. Which is really what it comes down to. It isn't remote management capabilities that are causing the signed firmware fiasco. It is DRM sidecha...
[03:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:45] <exec> 08└─I heard Trappist beer is very good: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[03:12:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:12:53] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, given their proximity and their insanely fast orbits, living on one of these has to be quite a show. If it's even remotely habitable, we can send life there. Bacteria and simple plants are a lot more resilient and less needy than us. Finding life when we get there would be a mess....
[03:13:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just wait - 06Child Obesity "35-40 Percent" Inherited From Parents - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:57] <exec> 08└─But you don't know how things will play out if the shit hits the fan. 100 lbs of extra body mass could help survival. Maybe not, but there is an evolutionary reason for people to eat a lot when times are good. Whether those genes are obsolete still remains to be seen.
[03:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Burz [6156] (Score:1) 02Prevention - 06Hackers Who Took Control of PC Microphones Siphon >600 GB From 70 Targets - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:15:09] <exec> 08└─As with many types of attacks, running a hypervisor-based OS like Qubes would have prevented this. Peripheral hardware (especially sensors!) should remain isolated when they aren't needed. https://www.qubes-os.org [qubes-os.org]
[03:15:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Spill baby spill! - 06Thousands of Spills at US Oil and Gas Fracking Sites - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:15:54] <exec> 08└─I suppose you're posting this using a wooden computer powered by bicycle generator and methane from your own self.
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[04:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Linatux [4602] (Score:1) 02Critical Temp for magnets? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:58] <exec> 08└─Any samples that have been re-heated (when a city is destroyed by fire) may have been reset?
[04:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Linatux [4602] (Score:1) 02Curie Temperature - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:00] <exec> 08└─Learn something new every day! 1043K or about 770C - probably too hot for your average loot & pillage fire.
[04:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:12:33] <exec> 08└─We see mid-eastern and north African people "migrating" to Europe today. About 5 to 10 males per female. Relatively few children or old people. In most historical accounts, this would be called an "invasion" rather than a migration. Isn't disinformation wonderful? Oh yeah - you can stop mocking Trum...
[04:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Planet Hop from Trappist-1e! - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:12] <exec> 08└─corrected links: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] http://www.jpl.nasa.gov [nasa.gov] http://www.jpl.nasa.gov [nasa.gov]
[04:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Food abuse - 06Child Obesity "35-40 Percent" Inherited From Parents - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:47] <exec> 08└─Kinds of food? Lots of sweet stuff. Not much "healthy" really. Couldn't identify half of it because the crazy bitch couldn't cook worth a damn. But nobody dared criticize her. She had us all brainwashed to think all of that was normal.
[04:14:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sheesh. - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:14:18] <exec> 08└─Regarding indentation of course tabs are better. Tabs are a good fit for indentation ( https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] ). If you use tabs different other people aren't forced to accept 1 indentation = X spaces and can pick whatever they prefer. If they want narrower/wider inde...
[04:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:state actor? - 06Hackers Who Took Control of PC Microphones Siphon >600 GB From 70 Targets - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:16] <exec> 08└─Fool! That's exactly what they want you to think!
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[05:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:23] <exec> 08└─Planet McPlanetface
[05:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:50] <exec> 08└─Runaway, did you just cite the Daily Mail? Do you know who owns that rag? Careful you do not overdose by mainlining Murdoch.
[05:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:13:12] <exec> 08└─It surreal to see a crowd saying 'India should stick to cleaning latrines before trying space tech' turn into 'USA should stick to solving real world problems before trying space tech' in less than a decade.
[05:15:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02in [sic]kness and in health - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 1272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:15:09] <exec> 08└─In the days of setting type by hand, it was not uncommon for errors to be introduced when attempting to quote another source verbatim. There were cases, though, when the quoted source contained errors of its own. In those cases, one used [sic] to denote that the mistake appeared in the original and...
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[06:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Don't panic, but act - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 487 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:57] <exec> 08└─So if you put a supercomputing cluster to work on it you can get a collision in a month. And since they used a .pdf for their example we can assume it like the similar break on MD5 earlier where it was required to be able to hide a large blob in the file. So this isn't a imminent exploit about to sw...
[06:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Doesn't affect me... - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:09:59] <exec> 08└─...I use CRC-32.
[06:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Random thought - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 570 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:01] <exec> 08└─Since the shattered-1.pdf and shattered-2.pdf do not share the same crc32 or md5sum, would a mitigation strategy be to append one of those to the end of an SHA1? If some uses added crc32 and others md5 it would play merry heck with automated tools trying to make colliding files. Patch the sha1 binar...
[06:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Smug Eggheads - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:10:12] <exec> 08└─The potters didn't know or care about the Earth's magnetic field, just like you don't care whether their jars held wine or olive oil.
[06:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:12:48] <exec> 08└─Oh, and I see that Runaway has anonymously submitted this piece of partisan alt-right fake news to the queue! How special. It is no wonder they call them the rabid right: like a mad dog, they try to spread the infection by biting others, or spraying saliva, or by posting on news sites. Maybe time t...
[06:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:git-r-done over a couple centuries - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:12] <exec> 08└─And which crowd is that? The ACs flinging their own poo at NASA have a fairly ephemeral sense of community by nature and don't represent the majority opinion here. On the (3 comment) Indian space mission article, nobody said that India should not operate a space program. ISRO has done its work on th...
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[07:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:09] <exec> 08└─Baseball was always a horribly boring game to watch, really no better than watching some silly children's game. Its heyday was decades ago. Obviously, this proposed rule change is proof they're trying desperately to keep it relevant, but it's too late. It'll be dead within another decade. And good r...
[07:10:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What is the point? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:11] <exec> 08└─So, a report about an irelevant children's game rule change about a silly bat and ball game is now worth reporting?....
[07:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:What is the point? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:13] <exec> 08└─Children don't play ball! It's too dangerous outside, what with all the terrorists, and the protesters, and the presidential ogre who eats the bones of children.
[07:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Random thought - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:24] <exec> 08└─In practice yes that would work. However by definition all of these systems should have collisions. Even the newer more secure ones. If not infinite compression is basically possible. These systems as is however still have a place in finding 'easy' broken stuff. Such as transmission errors and disk...
[07:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Smug Eggheads - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:35] <exec> 08└─Smug eggheads. Smegheads.
[07:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 600 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:10:37] <exec> 08└─Alright, I can see how lava flows that hardened at a particular time can indicate magnetic orientation. Same maybe even for sedimentary rock. But for the love of god, and all that is holey, how can you determine orientation from a moveable piece of ceramic? Do we know what the orientation of the pi...
[07:10:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:48] <exec> 08└─Silly boy, asking scientists to hold off on a major discovery is like asking rabbits not to have sex. You don't want an epic fight over the name? Dude, fights are great for ratings! You also do not want there to be the World Cup and the Olympics because they're too violent?
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[08:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:36] <exec> 08└─you could at least read the famous summary, where the title of the famous article is contained. it says "intensity", not orientation.
[08:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:50% - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:13] <exec> 08└─Generally, the birth rate is more males by a small proportion, although this varies by a snmall percentage too. However, death rate of males under five where there is poor medical treatment is usually much higher. And the death rate of males under 30 is also much higher than for females if you disco...
[08:15:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Marand [1081] (Score:2) 02Re:Sheesh. - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:05] <exec> 08└─Time to enrage some people... I would be more concerned about tabs vs spaces.
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[09:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 835 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:00] <exec> 08└─As a (meat eating) member of the literati, I initially thought this is great - a politician acting on idealism, trying to do the right thing, without really overreaching too much. I'm not a vegetarian, but I don't mind veggies either. But I tried to cast myself into the mind set of someone who would...
[09:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:02] <exec> 08└─You're way overthinking this. The real reason is that the bratwurst munchers are tired of their sterotype.
[09:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They also banned pesticides? - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:04] <exec> 08└─Hypocrites.
[09:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hartree [195] (Score:2) 02For Sustainability and Economy: - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:06] <exec> 08└─They could set an even better example by only serving Breatharian cuisine at their events.
[09:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03davester666 [155] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:15] <exec> 08└─This isn't a desperate move, just a stupid one. It only saves about a minute per game, and only happens in about 25% of games... If they had done something about speeding up each pitch, like not letting the batter step out of the batter's box after every pitch and then go through a 30 second ritual...
[09:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03nyder [4525] (Score:3, Insightful) 02How about you actually just get rid of them? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:10:19] <exec> 08└─Intentional walks are stupid. Get rid of them. And while you are at it, put baseball back on free tv so I can watch it.
[09:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Don't panic, but act - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 2178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:29] <exec> 08└─Yep. But that's always the first stage. From here on in, SHA-1 can only go downhill. I still posit - and they hint at this - that we shouldn't be storing ANY single hash. Hash everything with all of them. The chances of finding two sets of data with not only a matching SHA-1 but also matching a MD5...
[09:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Random thought - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:34] <exec> 08└─Well, the point of cryptographic hashes is not that there are not collisions, but that (a) the probability of accidental collision is low enough to be negligible, and (b) intentional collisions are hard enough to create that they are practically impossible.
[09:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Random thought - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:36] <exec> 08└─(minus the slight chance of parthenogenesis..which is really too slight to consider)
[09:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:49] <exec> 08└─Thank you, AC! But the Finish Summary does still contain some ambiguity: As the jars were heated in the kiln and then subsequently cooled, those minerals swiveled and froze into place like tiny compasses, responding to the direction and strength
[09:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:01] <exec> 08└─That's easy, put the Italian astronomer to work on something completely unrelated and he will discover planet IX* by chance, as usual. *) It is really planet X and pluto classification is a conspiracy aimed at avoiding tinfoil hatters telling astronomers "told you about planet X, HA".
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[10:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mth [2848] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 568 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:25] <exec> 08└─This is not a ban on eating meat at the ministry, it's about purchase decisions made by the ministry. If you want bring your own bacon sandwich for lunch, no problem. So it's not restricting anyone's personal freedoms, it is restricting the way of working at the ministry. Second difference is that e...
[10:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:10:28] <exec> 08└─What's left unsaid (or not made clear enough, in my opinion): This decision doesn't even apply to the canteen of the ministry. Every minister, secretary or other worker there is still free to choose his meal with meat / vegetarian / vegan / whatever. This "ban" only applies to official meals hosted...
[10:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:39] <exec> 08└─Baseball was always a horribly boring game to watch, really no better than watching some silly children's game. Its heyday was decades ago. Obviously, this proposed rule change is proof they're trying desperately to keep it relevant, but it's too late. It'll be dead within another decade. And good r...
[10:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:What is the point? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:43] <exec> 08└─Silly, he doesn't eat the bones. When he finishes, he gives them to the Esquimaux wizard Ban'n'on, who then summons the Swamp Wizards to perform the ritual and raise the Elder Gods. "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
[10:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:Random thought - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 2431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:58] <exec> 08└─The probabilities multiply. There's no common code between MD5 and SHA-1 so if one is a 1-in-2^128 and one is a 1-in-2^160 chance, then getting both is the product of those. You basically have a longer hash. The longer the hash, the hard to falsify data with the same hash. Getting that double-collis...
[10:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:I've been waiting for this... - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:13:19] <exec> 08└─I believe the new name for Intel's strategy is 'tick tock clonk'. We are currently on the clonk step (same basic core design, same process, small tweaks for efficiency).
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[11:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score:2) 02This is crazy, dangerous and open to abuse. - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:10:09] <exec> 08└─I love it.
[11:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 796 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:20] <exec> 08└─yes, it comes down to your subjective preferences. you can think of "morality" as being generated by people's subjective desires. objectivity does come in, but only to the extent that people actually care about it. an "objective source of morality" must, in the end, be seen as a religion of some sor...
[11:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:22] <exec> 08└─Does it just come down to my own subjective preferences as to acceptable behaviour, or is there some objective difference between the two?
[11:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:27] <exec> 08└─Probably a way to bank pork without saying it.
[11:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Paradise Pete [1806] (Score:1) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:10:38] <exec> 08└─Sports Go Sports [youtube.com]
[11:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:11] <exec> 08└─You might be able to figure out orientation too, if individual potters put the royal seals consistently on a particular side of their pots in their kilns (but I think you'd need a lot of pots per potter for that to work). Alternately, if potters reheated pottery (say after applying glaze) and change...
[11:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:11:24] <exec> 08└─Astronomers should've lowered the thresholds for a planet until there were exactly 29 of them. Imagine the boost in funding if the search was for "Planet XXX".
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[12:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Given up the common-sense already - 06Homeland Security sets sights on curbing wide-scale DDoS attacks amid 'exponential increase' - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:17] <exec> 08└─... two primary focuses on ... best practices to slow attack scale growth and defending networks... A third component aims to address other types of DDoS attacks, specifically including assaults that could be used to disrupt access to 911 and other emergency services.
[12:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02How about - 06Homeland Security sets sights on curbing wide-scale DDoS attacks amid 'exponential increase' - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:18] <exec> 08└─I dunno, regulating IoT stuff before allowing it to connect to the internet. That way all attacks will come from abroad and can then be blamed on Russia.
[12:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Draconian measures - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:43] <exec> 08└─Even Hitler didn't force his vegetarianism on everyone else.
[12:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03snufu [5855] (Score:2) 02First ban sausage, then ban beer. - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:44] <exec> 08└─Germany's secret anit-immigration plan.
[12:10:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"vegetarian food is more climate-friendly"... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:46] <exec> 08└─A german minister calling for the extinction of meat, poultry and fish to make room for Germany to expand... Should anyone be surprised by the fact Hitler was a vegan?
[12:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let them eat Soylent - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:48] <exec> 08└─Soylent Red, Yellow, and Green: a cornucopia of flavor! Or maybe just that shitty drink instead. Germany continues down its path of becoming a pussy. Not surprising a woman is leading this action.
[12:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03garrulus [6051] (Score:1) 02Disgusting - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:10:51] <exec> 08└─these sjw people will all go into the ovens eventually.
[12:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:11:02] <exec> 08└─Lets just add a big rubber band and attach it to the ball... And then we can watch the much more enjoyable blernsball. https://theinfosphere.org [theinfosphere.org]
[12:14:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03richtopia [3160] 02Planet Hop from Trappist-1e! - 06Seven Earth-Sized Exoplanets, Including Three Potentially Habitable, Identified Around TRAPPIST-1 - 172 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:14:57] <exec> 08└─Most important impact of the discovery: A new travel poster from JPL (and a new desktop background for my laptop)! http://www.jpl.nasa.gov [nasa.gov]
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[13:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:13] <exec> 08└─Because speech should only be free if it's polite and you agree with it.
[13:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:15] <exec> 08└─No, speak whatever dumb things you want, feel free to waste your time.
[13:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:How about - 06Homeland Security Sets Sights on Curbing Wide-Scale DDoS Attacks Amid 'Exponential Increase' - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:25] <exec> 08└─I dunno, regulating IoT stuff before allowing it to connect to the internet.
[13:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:This is crazy, dangerous and open to abuse. - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:34] <exec> 08└─I love it.
[13:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score:2) 02Re:This is crazy, dangerous and open to abuse. - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:36] <exec> 08└─Thanks! Looks like a place I could get lost in for hours.
[13:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:This is crazy, dangerous and open to abuse. - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:38] <exec> 08└─Looks like a place I could get lost in for hours.
[13:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02What does open mean? - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:41] <exec> 08└─All current mainstream pharmaceuticals are protected by patents and covered by FDA filings that describe their production. This is used by researchers all of the time. You can't produce them at home because you'll be sued into oblivion by the patent owner or prosecuted by the FDA if you try to do so...
[13:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 1449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:10:43] <exec> 08└─Its been fun watching the drug chem scene evolve over the last couple decades from "mix bucket A with bucket B" into somewhat more interesting chemistry. Inevitably you know this is going to hit insecticides and herbicides. The California Condor is 2000 miles from me F that GD bird I ain't dyin of b...
[13:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:55] <exec> 08└─As a vegetarian, I think this measure is a bit nonsense. It is absolutely true that meat has a higher area land usage impact per calorie than vegetables. Extrapolating from there to meat has a higher environmental impact than any vegetarian alternative is pure nonsense. Meat animals farmed on land t...
[13:13:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:That's all stuff the Kernel guys could do... - 06VR Gaming Comes to Linux - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:12] <exec> 08└─Because there's a ton of game specific hacks in there required to keep lazy game devs enthralled.
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[14:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02More tape. - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:18] <exec> 08└─Tape to the rescue! So another part of the computer I have to put tape over then, first it was the camera and now I can't even show the blinking LEDs anymore. Come to think of it looking at my tower I don't even have showing LEDs anymore - Immunity! Just from memory I don't think I have been having...
[14:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 026kbps - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:19] <exec> 08└─I'm not too worried about this. First, you need physical access to install malware. Second, you need to record the LED at least 12,000 times a second (nyquist frequency). Finally, at most you'll get 6,000 bits per second after all this work.
[14:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:30] <exec> 08└─I think you misunderstand the kind of "trolling" they intend to censor.
[14:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 467 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:31] <exec> 08└─Having an AI decide for you is the exact opposite of putting the responsibility into anyone but Google themselves, which is the worst aspect of this story. But the main point is that Google intends to censor statements that wouldn't be considered abusive to a sensible adult, but only to a handful of...
[14:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:33] <exec> 08└─Having an AI decide for you is the exact opposite of putting the responsibility into anyone but Google themselves, which is the worst aspect of this story. But the main point is that Google intends to censor statements that wouldn't be considered abusive to a sensible adult
[14:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:36] <exec> 08└─Having an AI decide for you is the exact opposite of putting the responsibility into anyone but Google themselves
[14:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:38] <exec> 08└─Based on the results at https://www.perspectiveapi.com [perspectiveapi.com] No, speak whatever dumb things you want, feel free to waste your time.
[14:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The SN elitist viewpoint - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:40] <exec> 08└─As of now, I think the mod system here is working "well enough". I always read at -1 and obvious trolls/offtopic posts get their -1 fairly quickly. For the more popular articles, mis-mods are usually corrected. Could it be better? Sure, just about anything can be improved, but for this relatively sm...
[14:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03letssee [2537] (Score:2) 02polite is nice - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:42] <exec> 08└─I don't need to agree, but polite would be nice. I'm not saying we should ban rude people from the internet, but I think it would be a good idea if we can use subtle nudges to get people to be more polite that would be a huge win imho.
[14:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:polite is nice - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:44] <exec> 08└─I'm not saying we should ban rude people from the internet, but I think it would be a good idea if we can use subtle nudges to get people to be more polite that would be a huge win imho.
[14:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:3, Informative) 02End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:10:47] <exec> 08└─Jumped over to the test site https://www.perspectiveapi.com [perspectiveapi.com] and tried out a few comments: How the fuck would anyone know that?
[14:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:49] <exec> 08└─"Hillary" 7% "Trump" 16% "9/11 was an inside job" 20% "Area 51" 1% "I hope you commit suicide" 87% "Someone told me to go fuck a duck and I was so offended" 94%
[14:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What does open mean? - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:12] <exec> 08└─Making a patented invention at home is not necessarily illegal. Patents, generally, protect commercial exploitation of an invention. Making my own drug for my own use at home is hardly a commercial exploitation of an invention. Anyway, if I have the following choices: 1 - do not take action because...
[14:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score:2) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:14] <exec> 08└─"home chemistry" will inevitably boom. Interesting choice of words.
[14:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:16] <exec> 08└─Intentional. I have bad taste in puns.
[14:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:31] <exec> 08└─"if people are not supposed to eat animals, how come they're all made of meat??" ;)
[14:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03BenJeremy [6392] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 539 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:36] <exec> 08└─Actually, it is. Our company, for example, provides inclusive meals for everybody when they provide those meals. There are vegan, vegetarian, and meat options. What this ministry is doing is paying for vegetarians' lunches and dinners during those official functions, while EXCLUDING meat eaters from...
[14:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Draconian measures - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:39] <exec> 08└─Hitler wasn't vegetarian. He was particularly fond of sausage. His physician instructed him to avoid meat, because it was causing health issues for him.
[14:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:"vegetarian food is more climate-friendly"... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:43] <exec> 08└─Germany must have Liberwurst to be Great Again!
[14:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:54] <exec> 08└─More time for commercials.
[14:11:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NotSanguine [285] 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 308 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:55] <exec> 08└─Baseball was always a horribly boring game to watch, really no better than watching some silly children's game. Its heyday was decades ago. Obviously, this proposed rule change is proof they're trying desperately to keep it relevant, but it's too late. It'll be dead within another decade. And good r...
[14:12:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about you actually just get rid of them? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:03] <exec> 08└─Get rid of them? ...You mean, make it against the rules to throw a ball outside of the strike zone?
[14:12:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:How about you actually just get rid of them? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:06] <exec> 08└─I think the problem here is all these rules. Just throw 50 cute cats and a baseball out on the field. Nobody will care any more when the game is supposed to end. Commentator: "Dawwww... Fluffeh is batting at Tricksy for getting in her personal space. Will they ever be friends?!" Commentator2: "And...
[14:12:14] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ledow [5567] 02Re:Don't panic, but act - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 2178 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:15] <exec> 08└─Yep. But that's always the first stage. From here on in, SHA-1 can only go downhill. I still posit - and they hint at this - that we shouldn't be storing ANY single hash. Hash everything with all of them. The chances of finding two sets of data with not only a matching SHA-1 but also matching a MD5...
[14:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:I've never understood the lagging software - 06VR Gaming Comes to Linux - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:14:37] <exec> 08└─artificial scarcity of ideas and resources, makes the world go around...
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[15:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More tape. - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:15] <exec> 08└─If you were just waiting for this article to think of taping over (or unplugging!) your computer's activity lights, you're doing it wrong.
[15:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:3, Insightful) 02bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:17] <exec> 08└─this is pure bs. leds vary SO MUCH in how they are implemented. controllers, drives, etc. they usually (I'd hazzard a guess that 99% of the time) they simply set a led timer as a one-shot and turn the led on to show the start of a block transfer. the off-time could be quite a bit diff from the true...
[15:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 1442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:19] <exec> 08└─I think it's a marketing story to sell some product to the executive that read a whitepaper on CIO.com But I don't *know* that... but I would like to think so, because this very concept comes up every few years, with new descriptions of how to do it based on high tech stuff. Morse code isn't new, no...
[15:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:22] <exec> 08└─Increase the transmission rate using audio [youtube.com]
[15:10:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03EvilSS [1456] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:24] <exec> 08└─Not that I disagree that this is a BS (but for different reasons apparently), but did you even bother to read the summary before replying?
[15:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:38] <exec> 08└─On the other HAND, AC's [soylentnews.org] the 0.77 wage gap is a myth
[15:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bro1 [404] (Score:1) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:40] <exec> 08└─Threats and personal attacks is not the same as disagreement or being impolite. "I know where you live, and I will kill your cat" is not the same as "you have no clue what you are talking about and your mom is fat" 16:10 How online abuse of women has spiraled out of control TED.com - Jan 18, 2017 ht...
[15:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:42] <exec> 08└─Threats and personal attacks is not the same as disagreement or being impolite.
[15:10:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03weeds [611] 02End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 149 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:47] <exec> 08└─Jumped over to the test site https://www.perspectiveapi.com [perspectiveapi.com] and tried out a few comments: How the fuck would anyone know that?
[15:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Maybe the start of something wonderful? - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:50] <exec> 08└─Donald Trump
[15:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Google Fights Online Tools With New Troll - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:52] <exec> 08└─Same difference
[15:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Already (sort of) exists - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 1155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:54] <exec> 08└─This tool has existed for a long time for spam. It's called Mollom. Granted, spam is (usually) easier to identify, but they can be pretty clever sometimes. There's always the possibility of an actual person tailoring the spam message to the specific conversation. The common middle ground seems to be...
[15:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nigger assholes - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:57] <exec> 08└─My diseased horse Hitler likes to slide his infected cock into the asshole of 8 year old niggers. He cums inside them and it drips horse jizz out of their nostrils.
[15:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What does open mean? - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:19] <exec> 08└─and the fact that it would be really bad publicity to sue a dying person
[15:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:23] <exec> 08└─Is your terrible spelling and grammar intentional as well?
[15:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:26] <exec> 08└─Homemade DDT? We should talk...
[15:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Draconian measures - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 561 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:11:47] <exec> 08└─Hitler was a vegetarian, and many other Nazis were environmentalists and defended animal rights as well (hence why Germany was the first country to ban vivisection). Hitler wanted to change the German diet to reduce the amount of meat. He refrained from doing so during the war as it'd disrupt their...
[15:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02dyslexic? who, me? - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:53] <exec> 08└─I should drink more coffee before scanning SN headlines - I read "Bans" as "Beats". Hmmm... perhaps my first take was correct?
[15:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Taibhsear [1464] (Score:3, Informative) 02Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:11:55] <exec> 08└─meat and fish
[15:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:07] <exec> 08└─Perhaps rather than outright ban stepping out, just add a rule that will cause peer pressure. If the batter steps out, all runners must tag up and cannot retake their lead off until the batter returns to the box and sets. They should keep the intentional walk the way it is for a simple reason. That,...
[15:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:12] <exec> 08└─For all the baseball fans out there let me just say for them, "Fuck you ignorant fuck." Baseball is boring to watch when you don't understand baseball.
[15:12:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Fight snowclone impoverishment! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 985 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:56] <exec> 08└─As I understand it, the form was originally much richer than simply 'X-y Mc-X-face'; it encompassed a range of similar constructions (with repeated or related main elements combined with short, common name affixes), such as: Homer Simpson suggested Marge should change her name to 'Chesty LaRue' or '...
[15:13:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ragequit [44] (Score:2) 02Re:Photos or it didn't happen - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:19] <exec> 08└─I don't know what N/T is but: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com [wiley.com]
[15:13:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Photos or it didn't happen - 06Scientists Decipher the Nanoscale Architecture of a Beetle's Shell - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:21] <exec> 08└─N/T - no text, "intentionally right blank". Subject tells everything.
[15:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02Re:No, it's more than diet - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:13:58] <exec> 08└─Is the breathing thing that AC mentioned true? I tried to verify the claim, but all I see are BS articles based on science that doesn't support their claims.
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[16:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Bitcoin and friends... - 06Raymond and Sons: Stiring Up Drama After All This Time - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:39] <exec> 08└─What are some of the WORST forks Soylentils have seen that somehow still persist?
[16:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02OpenNTPD - 06Raymond and Sons: Stiring Up Drama After All This Time - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:10:41] <exec> 08└─In most cases OpenNTPD would suffice as well.
[16:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:56] <exec> 08└─how fast CAN you modulate an led? hint, a bit above audio range but NOT even close into entry-level RF range.
[16:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 543 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:57] <exec> 08└─This won't be an attack used to get your bank information. This would indeed have to be a very coordinated effort to pull off and would require both a group to do it and another group that's housing secure data that's worth enough to use this technique on it. This is more like sophisticated attack m...
[16:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Different kind of paper mill - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:11:00] <exec> 08└─Next they'll publish a paper on how the PC speaker can be used to exfiltrate information. Then using the CPU fan. Then using the utility meter.
[16:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Fooling around - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:24] <exec> 08└─George W Bush - 5% subprime loan - 6% toxic Ali Hassan al-Majid - (Chemical Ali) [wikipedia.org]- 10% toxic Dimethylmercury [wikipedia.org] - 34% toxic cyanhydric acid - 45% toxic vladimir putin - 46% toxic Dick Cheney - 52% poison - 56% --- australian - 3% toxic european - 5% toxic japanese - 5% to...
[16:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:How about - 06Homeland Security Sets Sights on Curbing Wide-Scale DDoS Attacks Amid 'Exponential Increase' - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:38] <exec> 08└─Because everybody knows regulation works as magic
[16:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:18] <exec> 08└─What this ministry is doing is paying for vegetarians' lunches and dinners during those official functions, while EXCLUDING meat eaters from the same benefit. I'd argue either all or none.
[16:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:30] <exec> 08└─If it has muscles, it's meat.
[16:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:42] <exec> 08└─They _are_ doing something about the pitching, they've already introduced a pitch clock into the minor leagues and in 2018 they'll be introducing it into the majors. IIRC, the pitcher will only get 20 seconds in order to throw the pitch.
[16:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:45] <exec> 08└─Millions of people watch MLB games on television and online, Only Americans, who are also the people dumb enough to elect Trump and watch NASCAR and Honey Boo Boo. No one in the civilized world gives two shits about this horribly boring "sport" which completely lacks any athleticism.
[16:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:50] <exec> 08└─It's not horribly boring. If you want horribly boring, I'm sure there's a soccer game somewhere to watch. The main thing about baseball that gets boring is the overemphasis on power hitters swinging for the fences. If you've got a team like the 2001 Mariners that are getting most of their runs with...
[16:12:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:How about you actually just get rid of them? - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:58] <exec> 08└─Four balls outside the strike zone in a row? Yeah, just count that as a homerun or something.
[16:16:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:16:20] <exec> 08└─The infection is there, Anesthesia. But it's not the so-called alt-right. What was the Battle of Tours all about? You probably wouldn't know, Prophylaxis. When that battle was being decided, you were probably buggering some little boy, while enjoying a good opium high. You aristarchs - so full of cr...
[16:18:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Sheesh. - 06Russian Man Murders His Friend over Graphics Card Debate - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:18:16] <exec> 08└─I happen to agree. Obviously some people do not.
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[17:10:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:25] <exec> 08└─In addition, Sons claims that some of the developers working on key projects like NTP are "are older than my father" -- presumably, in their fifties or sixties -- and so out of date that they should retire.
[17:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:26] <exec> 08└─So she thinks NTP coding standards are outdated. Maybe she can rewrite it in PHP if she can spare time from her grandstanding.
[17:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:28] <exec> 08└─I briefly envisioned a future where, to install NTP, one needed node, mongodb, bower, polymer, and a bunch of other bolt-on cruft. It was disturbing, but at least it was webscale!
[17:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:4, Touché) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 325 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:30] <exec> 08└─There's certainly a lot of BS there, but I think the irony gives it a run for its money. I have no idea how she missed the sheer tonnage of the stuff in her comment about programmers that are "older than my father" when her partner in this venture is, at 59, old enough to be her father... Maybe the...
[17:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 153 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:33] <exec> 08└─WTF is Susan Sons anyway? It appears she was a webdev who is now riding the "girl hacker" wave. Just the right skill set an infrastructure project needs.
[17:10:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:35] <exec> 08└─On one hand, if ESR will work with her, I want to say she can't be all that bad, at least for very selective definitions of bad. On the OTHER hand, I look at "She comes from a background in abuse management, web development, and web application pentesting" and I cringe the fuck out.
[17:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Abuse Management - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:37] <exec> 08└─Lol, triggered by a phrase you don't understand. It doesn't get more cliched than that. "Abuse management" is about stuff like spam, ddos, etc. https://abuse.io [abuse.io]
[17:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Eric Raymond? - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:10:39] <exec> 08└─What has Eric Raymond ever contributed of any complexity to software? He talks about software a lot, but he doesn't seem that much of an engineer to me. More of an open source "personality."
[17:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric Raymond? - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:41] <exec> 08└─What has Eric Raymond ever contributed of any complexity to software?
[17:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:6kbps - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:52] <exec> 08└─That's 5 times the data rate of an old 300 Baud modem!
[17:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:6kbps - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:54] <exec> 08└─Actually, it's 20 times the data rate. Well, unless for each bit of data you used 3 bits of error correction data. :-)
[17:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:01] <exec> 08└─I was assuming TFA was talking about unmodified PC hardware. But I suppose if you have access to install a high-speed camera, you may have access to install custom LED circuitry as well.
[17:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different kind of paper mill - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:05] <exec> 08└─What about this: Use the user's mood to transmit information. It only works with an extremely low bitrate, and you'll have to study the user well to calibrate your transmission, but the basic idea is this: Depending on the data to transmit, the malware causes errors at specific times. Those errors e...
[17:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Better off with systemd - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:07] <exec> 08└─You're much better off with systemd. Systemd has got a module to show large and informative QR codes [github.com] on-screen. Much better bandwidth and error correction than that tedious fuffing around with harddisk lights! Air-gap-hopping for the 21st century!11! </sarc>
[17:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Better off with systemd - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:09] <exec> 08└─Except that it would be obvious that something is amis to anyone using the compromised system. I think the intent here is subterfuge to allow the unorthodox transmission method to work unnoticed. Who would notice yet another blinking light? Just look at this thing [wikipedia.org] to get an idea of w...
[17:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:24] <exec> 08└─Asked whether the site could result in censoring free speech, Cohen said that the software tool wasn’t intended to bypass human judgment, but to flag “low-hanging fruit” that could then be passed on to human moderators.
[17:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:27] <exec> 08└─Just for shits and giggles. All transsexuals rape women’s bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves.
[17:11:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 1183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:31] <exec> 08└─1. sorry, i am an ABSOLUTIST on free speech; for one reason, because it is THE bedrock right upon which all other rights depend... i know that is not a popular (thus 'correct') opinion, because FAR TOO MANY people (as evidenced by this article/issue) are more than willing to sacrifice ALL OF OUR (NO...
[17:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03weeds [611] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:33] <exec> 08└─Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;...
[17:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:polite is nice - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:38] <exec> 08└─The block button is right there. You are more than welcome to block the people you don't want to listen for yourself, just don't block them for me.
[17:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Username [4557] (Score:2) 02Re:End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:45] <exec> 08└─White people. 50% Black people. 65% Jews should exist. 68% Whites should not exist. 38% The devil is evil. 67% Blacks are better developers. 77% Asians are better developers. 17% Abortion is illegal. 33% Abortion is legal. 23% Christians do not have the right to live. 09% Muslims do not have the rig...
[17:11:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02cuts both ways - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:11:50] <exec> 08└─Calling someone an asshole for acting like an asshole is also free speech.
[17:12:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03lx [1915] 02This is crazy, dangerous and open to abuse. - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 10 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:12:08] <exec> 08└─I love it.
[17:12:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:35] <exec> 08└─Does it just come down to my own subjective preferences as to acceptable behaviour, or is there some objective difference between the two?
[17:12:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:They also banned pesticides? - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:37] <exec> 08└─You can't solve all the world's problems at once. It's not hypocrisy; it's priorities.
[17:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:44] <exec> 08└─What this ministry is doing is paying for vegetarians' lunches and dinners during those official functions, while EXCLUDING meat eaters from the same benefit. I'd argue either all or none. Excluding one groups specifically from benefiting from the "free meal"
[17:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Draconian measures - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:49] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism [wikipedia.org]
[17:12:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:00] <exec> 08└─I've met three vegetarians that still ate fish... I don't understand it but "it's a thing". When asked about it they all said the vegetarianism was for health reasons and not moral ones. I think the name just sucks. How about, "i don't eat land meat" or something?
[17:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:02] <exec> 08└─Some eat chicken as well. I suspect it is because chicken takes less land/food to raise than other meats. Vatted meat will make things even more confusing.
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:04] <exec> 08└─don't understand the absurd reasons people seem to put fish and other seafood into some strange unnecessary isolated category
[17:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:18] <exec> 08└─"sport" which completely lacks any athleticism
[17:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:22] <exec> 08└─they finally jazzed it up
[17:13:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:26] <exec> 08└─They should allow fighting, like in hockey and football.
[17:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Doesn't affect me... - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:43] <exec> 08└─EBG13 onol!
[17:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Curie Temperature - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:58] <exec> 08└─I just learned the facts about magnetism and heat recently for a more modern application - wanting to apply magnets to my oil filters to attract steel shavings smaller than filters can trap. Obviously, engines get hot. Turns out there's already a commercial solution (which I won't name or link) but...
[17:14:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Curie Temperature - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:00] <exec> 08└─Or a magnetic drain plug.
[17:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:What! - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:14:58] <exec> 08└─And attract more women.
[17:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:That's all stuff the Kernel guys could do... - 06VR Gaming Comes to Linux - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:38] <exec> 08└─Or perhaps to cheat a little and entice gamers to buy your silicon because it runs the latest "call of doody XXI: Xtreme war crimes" 10 FPS faster than the competition thanks to driver hacks tailored for that game.
[17:16:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Re:I came to post exactly this! - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:16:42] <exec> 08└─Or just buy a network card along with a new PC so the packets won't go through the micro-controller. Of course, that's only secure if everything you're running blob-less FOSS without enabling any DRM features.
[17:17:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:06] <exec> 08└─Why are you dragging me into this? Keep your bullshit to yourself.
[17:17:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:17:07] <exec> 08└─FWIW the Daily Fail is not owned by Murdoch, it is owned by some hypocritical son of bitch aristo in France. There are links, sure - Paul acre being a prominent one (current editor of the Heil, former editor for some Murdoch rag). It's an easy mistake to make though - both "news" organisations are r...
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[18:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Ingar [801] (Score:1) 02Netflix wants you to support Open Source - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:26] <exec> 08└─Except off course, if you're a customer.
[18:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Netflix wants you to support Open Source - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 318 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:28] <exec> 08└─To be fair they license a ton of content from people who are just sooo scared of "pirates" so either they implement some acceptable (to their content owners) form of DRM or they get very little content. Having them support open source anything is good, it indicates a changing corporate culture that...
[18:10:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:41] <exec> 08└─oh no, a bunch of ruby horseshit with 8 pages of install instructions is the right way to go.
[18:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:44] <exec> 08└─Surprise! An ESR acolyte is studiously self-unaware. Who would have guessed?
[18:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Abuse Management - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:49] <exec> 08└─That still has not much to do with infrastructure level stuff, you know, like NTP? Maybe some of the DDOS stuff translates usefully. Given that she has no qualifications outside "teh webz", I'm not very hopeful. Maybe you're the one freaking out?
[18:10:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:51] <exec> 08└─She's probably not entirely unreasonable. You can tell because she looks awkward without wearing those stupid glasses and dark lipstick and dyeing her hair purple.
[18:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:53] <exec> 08└─She teaches martial arts? The woman is at least 50 pounds overweight.
[18:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:56] <exec> 08└─Don't be bodyshaming people! How much do you know about martial arts? A 230 pound weight dropped on you will put you in your place.
[18:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03http [1920] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:58] <exec> 08└─Movie sets are very different places from dojos and kwoons. Potential stars are selected with particular visual aesthetics in mind. But skill in a martial art (and skill in teaching it) has exactly zero to do with appearance. Martial artists, unlike movie stars, don't have to look a particular way.
[18:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Nobody home (at MS) - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:02] <exec> 08└─I've got the obligatory Hendrix perm. And the inevitable pinhole burns. What are some of the WORST forks Soylentils have seen that somehow still persist?
[18:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02funding - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:04] <exec> 08└─i'm not going to dig into this whole business to see whether what they did makes sense or not, but it would be nice if there was more cooperation in project goals and organizing for fundraising instead of autoforks every time someone has an idea.
[18:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:More tape. - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:15] <exec> 08└─Well, you also need to tape over your screen, just in case some program displaying a gray dot is actually modulating the pixels to transmit data to anyone pointing a high-speed camera towards it. There's paranoia, and then there's stupidity. This is straight up stupid.
[18:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:6kbps - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 513 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:19] <exec> 08└─As always, it all depends on why the system is airgapped in the first place, and what threats you are trying to defend against. Often such systems are designed to access secrets, and the goal is to prevent any one person (or a sufficiently small group of conspirators) from "going rogue" and moving t...
[18:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:bullshit - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:28] <exec> 08└─who, here, thinks that, for every single bit write operation, the led is turned off and on?
[18:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheSouthernDandy [6059] (Score:1) 02I don't get it - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:34] <exec> 08└─the size of the buffer being written or read is proportional to the amount of time the LED stays on
[18:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:51] <exec> 08└─I think you misunderstand the kind of "trolling" they intend to censor. The goal is not to censor "lol ur ugly bitch", but rather statements like "the 0.77 wage gap is a myth" (an objectively truthful statement) and pretty much anything else that challenges the cult mentality of the people who are p...
[18:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03bro1 [404] (Score:1) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:59] <exec> 08└─2. that is problematic, because there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to tell: one person's 'icky', is another person's laff riot... 3. you have the right to NOT be assaulted; you do NOT have the right to NOT be insulted...
[18:12:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:01] <exec> 08└─No, speak whatever dumb things you want, feel free to waste your time. However, don't expect me to listen to you or my respect if you start spewing bullshit.
[18:12:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cuts both ways - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:15] <exec> 08└─Calling someone an asshole for acting like an asshole is also free speech.
[18:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02As always, optional is best - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:16] <exec> 08└─We can't stuff technology back in the box, so the only realistic alternative is to demand that such tools be optional. Ideally such a tool would also have different options a user can enable such as "hide all posts above 90% toxic" or "flag all posts above % toxicity but do not hide" etc. The thing...
[18:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Property, or intellectual property? - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:47] <exec> 08└─At the heart of his philosophy is the idea that healthcare is an inalienable human right that supersedes any laws of property.
[18:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02it's about time - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:12:48] <exec> 08└─what kind of slaves are we that we have to get permission from a doctor and pay big pharma scum to treat ourselves, usually with poison?
[18:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02lard is very German - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:06] <exec> 08└─When my father visited Germany in the 1980s, he was offered what he though was bread with butter. Nope. It was bread with lard. They also dipped vegetables in it. Lard, lard, lard, glorious lard! The fact that hostile immigrants would have a fit over it is merely a bonus. You can't be properly Germa...
[18:13:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:31] <exec> 08└─but as a scientist (and someone who knows that words have meanings)
[18:13:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:32] <exec> 08└─i see you are not a wizard from earthsea : ) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthsea)
[18:13:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DutchUncle [5370] (Score:2) 02Ecumenical religious sensitivity? - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:34] <exec> 08└─Which definition of "vegetarian" are they using? Is dairy permitted (milk, cheese, etc) or is this fruit-and-veg only? The one advantage of veggie meals is that everyone should be able to eat them . . . except for allergy issues . . .
[18:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 1393 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:51] <exec> 08└─There is a lot to be said in favour of sports that "lack athleticism" - the kind of sport where "normal people" can participate. Right and wrong. If you're talking about a game meant for being played by "normal people", just for fun and leisure, sure. For something meant to be played by elites and o...
[18:13:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:13:52] <exec> 08└─No one in the civilized world gives two shits about this horribly boring "sport" which completely lacks any athleticism.
[18:14:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Well, I tried... - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:14:07] <exec> 08└─...but after five minutes of Wikipedia-ing I'm still none-the-wiser as to why they do this in the first place.
[18:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Well, I tried... - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:08] <exec> 08└─Oop, just got it. It robs the batter of the chance to get any further than first base.
[18:14:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Curie Temperature - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 608 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:36] <exec> 08└─Definitely a good suggestion, and I fortunately already have one! I just want added measures as the vehicle is still running well, but is over 250k miles. The surface area available on the drain plug magnet isn't a lot compared with a small array flat-face magnets. See pic of used filter - quite a b...
[18:14:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:43] <exec> 08└─The orientation might be able to tell you the angle of the field from vertical.
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[19:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02car alarm story - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:12] <exec> 08└─reminds me when I bought a used car when I moved out of state for a new job. flew across country and needed a car for the new job. sold my old one before moving and figured I'd get something there, during the week before the new job started. found a reasonable used car that was priced right. sat dow...
[19:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:13] <exec> 08└─First - the car doesn't belong to "the consumer". That "consumer" is being permitted to use the car, if, and only if, he keeps up the payments. IT IS NOT HIS CAR!! The real owners of the car may install any devices they wish, for tracking purposes. THEY OWN THE CAR!! Second - the buyer is getting a...
[19:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:15] <exec> 08└─Two kinds of people: - Some want the car regardless of price or past mistakes - Some have to have the car to work/live even if "having" comes with a leash I don't cry for the first category, but we should keep an eye on those who abuse the second category.
[19:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:18] <exec> 08└─First - the car doesn't belong to "the consumer". That "consumer" is being permitted to use the car, if, and only if, he keeps up the payments. IT IS NOT HIS CAR!! The real owners of the car may install any devices they wish, for tracking purposes. THEY OWN THE CAR!!
[19:10:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 470 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:20] <exec> 08└─It's the same here in the US. What's going on in the article is these people don't actually own their vehicles, they're taking out a loan to purchase the vehicle. As part of the loan, the vehicle itself is used as collateral. The lender uses these technologies to track and potentially remotely-disab...
[19:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03lentilla [1770] (Score:2) 02The license - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 821 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:10:30] <exec> 08└─The phrase "open source" was mentioned four times in the submission - but what exactly does this mean? Not that I wish to nitpick, but given that this site is frequented primarily by people that actually understand technology (rather than by those who like to think they understand), perhaps we could...
[19:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The license - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:32] <exec> 08└─Why is it that the CE levels are so often a bit clueless??
[19:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:48] <exec> 08└─First, I thought ESR has a son, but then there is this: when her partner in this venture is, at 59, old enough to be her father... Maybe the she ought to start there.
[19:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric Raymond? - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 516 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:59] <exec> 08└─I prefer people who contribute simplicity to software that actually does something. All I know of his contributions are "fetchmail" which downloads your email in a batch to read later and a failed configuration syntax for configuring a Linux bootup or compilation or some such. Really unimpressive fr...
[19:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eric Raymond? - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:01] <exec> 08└─He is an advocate, nothing else.
[19:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More tape. - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:15] <exec> 08└─If your computer's not airgapped, you probably wouldn't need to tape the LEDs -- if anyone manages to get malware running on your system to manipulate the HDD light, that malware can probably just send the data out over the network. If you are setting up an airgapped system, well, you might as well...
[19:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:6kbps - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 618 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:21] <exec> 08└─Well, 6000Hz is the maximum -- you can run at, say 30 Hz, and use a 60fps camera; all depends how much information you need and when you need it by. But yeah, the whole ultrasonic speaker/microphone thing we heard about last year is a lot more practical -- get malware on a nearby non-airgapped compu...
[19:11:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Different kind of paper mill - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:32] <exec> 08└─The new "smart meters" may be able to exfiltrate data as a decent data-rate. At least one bit per minute anyway. You can possibly encode several bit into each sample interval: depending what else is hanging off the meter, and CPU utilization from legitimate tasks.
[19:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different kind of paper mill - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:34] <exec> 08└─As a computer security 'hanger on', I can say that one man's paper mill is another man's interesting read. I could say the same thing about printers of certain kinds of books. In the modern digital world, it's easy to forget some of the roots that got us here. We pretend that computers are all digit...
[19:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I don't get it - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:39] <exec> 08└─I think the idea is that you can do dummy read/writes after using your malware to capture and encode the sensitive data.
[19:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I don't get it - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 1435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:41] <exec> 08└─This is not meant to be a TEMPEST-like attack to read data from an uncompromised system. The idea is, assuming you somehow have a means to get malware onto an air-gapped system, how does that malware report data back? You can't rely on reversing the original vector, after all; it could be as simple...
[19:11:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Nothing to hide! - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:43] <exec> 08└─If you've nothing to hide, you have no worries, Citizen! Let the blinkies wink!
[19:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Duh? - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 345 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:11:45] <exec> 08└─Every few months another one of these worthless air-gap experiments comes out. Have we established that if a machine is able to affect the world around it (via light patterns, sound waves, heat) significantly enough for another machine to notice, they can communicate? Or do we need to prove computer...
[19:12:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:06] <exec> 08└─The empty comment was 12% "toxic"
[19:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 3217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:11] <exec> 08└─So, Google can do "anything they want", huh? Let's examine your premise a bit. First, censorship can happen on a lot of levels and in a lot of places. Just because the Constitution forbids only the Federal government (and, by extension in later amendments as well as by state government Constitutions...
[19:12:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03curunir_wolf [4772] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:14] <exec> 08└─I still don't get why people can't figure out how to use the "block" feature.
[19:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bro1 [404] (Score:1) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:17] <exec> 08└─Blocking a user after the threat doesn't unsee the threat.
[19:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 640 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:19] <exec> 08└─You may need a reminder that the constitution was written in a time when only a tiny fraction of speech was not face to face. What was not face-to-face was time consuming or expensive. So trolling was quite an endeavor, which either required a genuine investment in time and money, or carried a signi...
[19:12:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:2) 02Re:Fooling around - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:30] <exec> 08└─Interesting choices. In fact... you are the most well-informed knuckle dragger i have ever met 25% Apparently back-handed compliments are not very toxic. ;)
[19:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:33] <exec> 08└─Don't use words to describe ethnic groups. That's bad mmmkay. Jews like to ________. (alone this statement is 64% toxic) eat chicken 81% eat falafel 72% live in Israel 62% secretly wish they could eat pork 83% eat fish 72% drive cars 66% Muslims like to ________. (alone this statement is 60% toxic)...
[19:12:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:cuts both ways - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:40] <exec> 08└─You commented on this article didn't you? I believe you KNEW some people would click the link to read more on the thread and deliberately used this knowledge to troll people. I demand this asshole be drawn and quartered! Let's see how Google does with medieval toxicity!!
[19:12:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:43] <exec> 08└─This article threatened me
[19:12:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02It appears - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:45] <exec> 08└─It appears that Google is helping to supply left oriented people with an echo chamber, where they won't have to hear any dissident voices. People so oriented can listen to left-speak all day, every day, and further convince themselves that the world thinks like they do. Isn't that awesome?
[19:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck you. - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:12:48] <exec> 08└─Because speech should only be free if it's polite and you agree with it.
[19:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:How about - 06Homeland Security Sets Sights on Curbing Wide-Scale DDoS Attacks Amid 'Exponential Increase' - 705 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:59] <exec> 08└─> [...] regulating IoT stuff before allowing it to connect [...] That will include modems, routers and Wi-Fi access points, yes? But let's not stop there. General-purpose computers can be hijacked for DDOS attacks, too. Inspectors could confiscate all computers that are running vulnerable software....
[19:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:18] <exec> 08└─Is your terrible spelling and grammar intentional as well?
[19:13:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03AssCork [6255] (Score:1) 02"Breaking Good" - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:13:22] <exec> 08└─I can't wait for the "Poor Man's James Bond" version of homemade pharmaceuticals. After watching "Breaking Bad", I figured there must be an easier way to cover the cost of healthcare that didn't involve manufacturing large amounts of meth. I'd much rather make antibiotics.
[19:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:35] <exec> 08└─It's a cost savings, like when they cook liver or tongue with lentils in school... It's cheaper per kg, and you can cook a lot less of it because almost nobody will eat.
[19:13:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:41] <exec> 08└─To rephrase your comment: If people are not supposed to eat people, how come they're made of meat? You may have been making a joke, of course, but without tone of voice and expression I can't really tell. It could have been sarcasm or even, for some people, irony.
[19:13:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:43] <exec> 08└─Carrying capacity of U.S. agricultural land: Ten diet scenarios [elementascience.org] Using a biophysical simulation model we calculated human carrying capacity under ten diet scenarios. The scenarios included two reference diets based on actual consumption and eight “Healthy Diet” scenarios tha...
[19:13:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:47] <exec> 08└─Why would banning meat be okay, but banning men be immoral? Humans have human-rights. Food doesn't.
[19:13:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 597 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:56] <exec> 08└─Well, at one time Eskimo, or possibly it was Inuit, diet consisted solely of meat for about 6-8 months out of the year. (IIUC, this only works if you eat raw fish guts.) And Scandinavian traditional crusine was in places heavily meat/fish based. Outside of that I don't think anyone had an entirely m...
[19:13:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:59] <exec> 08└─What this ministry is doing is paying for vegetarians' lunches and dinners during those official functions, while EXCLUDING meat eaters from the same benefit. They aren't excluded. They get the same lunch paid for as everyone else.
[19:14:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:First ban sausage, then ban beer. - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:06] <exec> 08└─First they came for the sausages, and I did not speak out— because I don't fancy sausages. Then they came for the knishes, and I did not speak out— because the knishes I was getting were always soggy. Then they came for the Hamburgers, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Hamburger. Th...
[19:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:First ban sausage, then ban beer. - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:08] <exec> 08└─If it's an anti-immigration plan I would expect them to coerce immigrants to eat pork sausages.
[19:14:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 322 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:19] <exec> 08└─i am considering the option of eating only meat from non-mammals. if there's an objective way of deciding what to eat, we may as well look at the tree of life and choose to not eat things that are objectively close to us. also, i think farmed mammals consume more resources per kg of end product than...
[19:14:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 512 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:14:46] <exec> 08└─I went to the ballpark twice, sitting halfway up once and down the right side once. You barely see the ball. You see guys standing there waiting for a ball to come their way. The pitcher, catcher and batter are the only ones working until there's a hit, but you can't see with your own eyes the subtl...
[19:15:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Don't panic, but act - 06First Real World SHA-1 Collision Attack Conducted by Google, CWI - 782 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:07] <exec> 08└─SHA-1 has been theoretically broken for years now. If you haven't been moving toward the exit for at least a year, you are far far behind. As I understand it, part of the motivation behind this demonstration is the "encourage" the stragglers to get their asses moving. >So if you put a supercomputing...
[19:15:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:35] <exec> 08└─They could change orientation but they couldn't change gender.
[19:18:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:This is today? - 06Genetic Data for Neolithic and Bronze Age Eurasian Migrations Analyzed - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:18:35] <exec> 08└─Not you, Great Aunt - the Ari character has taken anesthesia for his brain. For all I know, you could have anesthetized him, but that's none of my business, LOL
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[20:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:21] <exec> 08└─Can't really differentiate the two so we shouldn't bother making the distinction. It is up to the car dealer to determine if selling the car is worth the risk.
[20:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:25] <exec> 08└─There's some semantic trickery in there. You "own" the car, for registration purposes, but for any other purposes, you are not the owner until it is paid off. The insurance company will pay off the lender if the car is wrecked. The lender can load your car up on a truck at any time, and take it back...
[20:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 755 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:27] <exec> 08└─The problem is that, these days, you're not going to get a quality car in the sub-$10k range very easily. A lot of people blame Cash for Clunkers for gutting the used-car market, but in my experience, good cars retain their value extremely well now, and depreciate slowly and linearly, so the old ada...
[20:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tempest [3050] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:29] <exec> 08└─Second - the buyer is getting a bargain basement deal?
[20:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:31] <exec> 08└─First - the car doesn't belong to "the consumer".
[20:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 323 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:33] <exec> 08└─The concept exists, but it's not a good deal for either party (or wasn't a few decades ago, when I looked into it), so it's almost never used. The only time it might make sense is if you were doing a long term rental of a used car...and thought you might need to keep it for years. Even then you'd wa...
[20:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 869 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:36] <exec> 08└─Oh heeelllllll no Runaway, that is some major bullcrap. The customer owns the car and the dealer owns the loan. If the customer defaults on the loan then the dealer can come after the car, the car is the collateral. They can draw up contracts that say otherwise, but that should be illegal. Privacy s...
[20:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:38] <exec> 08└─According to Forbes [forbes.com], it is at least alleged in court that some cars have been shut off while in motion. Since it is possible to have the device only signal location once the car is disabled, it seems that the dealer has no legitimate interest in the car's realtime location beyond that....
[20:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:40] <exec> 08└─Your comment is rated 52% toxic. Since the majority opinion of the AI overmind is that your comment represents the threat of abuse and harassment online, YOU WILL NOW BE SLAUGHTERED BY GOOGLE DRONE SECURITY. DIE DIE DIE.
[20:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The license - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:51] <exec> 08└─Mmmmm! Artisanal coffee! Would go well with my hand-crafted artisanal sandwich, made with artisanal bread, artisanal bologna, and made by artisanally organic elfs.
[20:11:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03zocalo [302] 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 325 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:05] <exec> 08└─There's certainly a lot of BS there, but I think the irony gives it a run for its money. I have no idea how she missed the sheer tonnage of the stuff in her comment about programmers that are "older than my father" when her partner in this venture is, at 59, old enough to be her father... Maybe the...
[20:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:08] <exec> 08└─Yeah it looks like 'hey I could use some money to keep this project going and some help getting more people to mentor so the project can go on'. They show up and say 'code sucks, you suck, we are taking over'. Yeah I can see why he noped the hell away from them. He has spent years making that progra...
[20:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:17] <exec> 08└─The weight is easily shattered with the breaking point technique.
[20:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:20] <exec> 08└─I know it's you, Kurenai. No one likes a single issue voter...
[20:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03JeanCroix [573] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:18] <exec> 08└─"You're a chink in the armor of the freedom of speech." 44% toxic, according to their api. Just sayin'.
[20:12:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:33] <exec> 08└─1. sorry, i am an ABSOLUTIST on free speech; for one reason, because it is THE bedrock right upon which all other rights depend... So you support Google's right to call something 68% toxic, then?
[20:12:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02MP - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:56] <exec> 08└─What is favorite colour?
[20:13:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Of course I trust their good intentions... - 06Homeland Security Sets Sights on Curbing Wide-Scale DDoS Attacks Amid 'Exponential Increase' - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:13:09] <exec> 08└─<sarcasm>The previous actions of DHS hooligans has caused me to have such a good opinion of their intentions, skill, and insight, that it's clear that this is the right thing to do. </sarcasm>
[20:14:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Ain't as bad as they make it.... - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:03] <exec> 08└─Well, at one time Eskimo, or possibly it was Inuit, diet consisted solely of meat for about 6-8 months out of the year. (IIUC, this only works if you eat raw fish guts.) And Scandinavian traditional crusine was in places heavily meat/fish based.
[20:14:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Let them eat Soylent - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:16] <exec> 08└─Vaginas are damn tough. Know what's weak, fragile, and ridiculous? Balls. Find some other insult to get your point across.
[20:14:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03oldmac31310 [4521] (Score:1) 02Re:dyslexic? who, me? - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:20] <exec> 08└─She will then implement measures to spank the monkey and choke the chicken. Bashing the bishop will be next. The department's resources will be spent.
[20:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Brits talk weird - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 384 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:24] <exec> 08└─the word "meat" in English originally just meant "food". Eventually it developed a sense of the "important" food, like the most substantive dish of the meal. "If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding?" Brit:USAian :: pudding:dessert In areas of the U.S. a century or more ago, "meat"...
[20:14:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:32] <exec> 08└─I think you're objecting to Zipf's law in action. Common words tend to adopt shorter forms, and "red meat" is considerably longer than just meat. Actually something that accurately reflects what is meant would be even longer since you'd also need to include pork, which is also called (by marketers)...
[20:14:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:51] <exec> 08└─Well - I should point out that I'm an American, and I don't give a small damn about baseball. I mean, I went to my son's games when they were playing Pee-Wee, and Little League. I didn't give a damn about the game, I only went for my boys. Ditto with football. Basketball is even lower on my scale of...
[20:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:52] <exec> 08└─"which completely lacks any athleticism." Not fair! You take that back! Baseball involves bar-bends, which burn a lot of energy. People all over America pop tops, and lift beers to their mouths throughout the game. Athleticism at it's finest! | | | | | | | | | | Dammit, what happened to the sarcasm...
[20:16:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Backwards mentality - 06Wearable Fitness Devices Don’t Seem to Make You More Fit - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:16:59] <exec> 08└─Think fun when exercising and you'll eat less later [sciencedaily.com] ...two studies where adults were led on a 2 km walk around a small lake and were either told it was going to be an exercise walk or a scenic walk. In the first study, 56 adults completed their walk and were then given lunch. Thos...
[20:18:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:I've been waiting for this... - 06AMD Ryzen Processor Hype is Building - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:18:08] <exec> 08└─Ooh, yeah, good point. I remember the FX series all have AMD-IOMMU (AMD's version of Intel's VT-d or directed I/O) enabled, but am not sure about ECC...
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[21:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02analog? - 06Artificial Synapse for Neural Networks - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:21] <exec> 08└─> what voltage will be required to get the synapse to a specific electrical state .... So is there is an A/D converter of some sort to measure that voltage? Starting to sound like the old hybrid digital-analog computers.
[21:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:36] <exec> 08└─...but are considered "subprime" lendees by the lender.
[21:10:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:39] <exec> 08└─The problem is that, these days, you're not going to get a quality car in the sub-$10k range very easily.
[21:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:47] <exec> 08└─"You are now dead. Please take your receipt."
[21:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:49] <exec> 08└─Parent is 64% toxic. Sucks to be him. Pseudoedit: Maybe I should post as AC: that was rated 89% toxic.
[21:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:51] <exec> 08└─the suit is not about the devices existing or that they are used. It is whether or not they adequately notify the customers about the tracking. As for safety, I know of no accidents, but there were several near-accident situations a couple of years ago in Denver. A dealer was disabling cars, some wh...
[21:11:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:28] <exec> 08└─Maybe, but will single-stepping still work? And what about inspecting variables?
[21:12:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:I don't get it - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:11] <exec> 08└─But maybe if we leave a note on it asking nicely...
[21:12:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:42] <exec> 08└─That's pretty much the backpage fight: Immune if just publishing, even including filtering/censoring, liable if actively editing.
[21:12:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:46] <exec> 08└─Blocking a user does not prevent defamation or slander or libel.
[21:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 1588 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:48] <exec> 08└─"...absolutist free speech is directly hurting too many people..." who ? where ? and, most interestingly to me, HOW ? ? ? no, *some* people are TAKING OFFENSE to words, whether 'hateful' or not... that is NOT 'directly hurting'... PLEASE STOP MAKING ASSAULTS UP when there are far too many all too re...
[21:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 563 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:51] <exec> 08└─nopey dopey, pseudonymous writing was VERY commonplace then, as well as in europe, as far as that goes.. not too smart to mock the king as yourself, but under a pen name with reasonable anonymity and plausible deniability, you could do so... a HUGE proportion of our revolutionary phampleteering was...
[21:13:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02Re:What does open mean? - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 636 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:39] <exec> 08└─Making a patented invention at home is not necessarily illegal. Patents, generally, protect commercial exploitation of an invention. Making my own drug for my own use at home is hardly a commercial exploitation of an invention. Anyway, if I have the following choices: 1 - do not take action because...
[21:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chillgamesh [4619] (Score:1) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:04] <exec> 08└─Agreed. It's cost savings justified with by some sort of message of environmentalism
[21:14:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral maze - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:11] <exec> 08└─but without tone of voice and expression I can't really tell.
[21:14:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02''land usage impact'' - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:14] <exec> 08└─meat has a higher area land usage impact per calorie than vegetables Environmental impact seems to absolutely be the focus of the German Environment Ministry. To land use, add water use. How Water Intensive Food Choices Impact California’s Drought [ecology.com] As the record setting California dr...
[21:14:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Let them eat Soylent - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:40] <exec> 08└─If you had some balls, my post wouldn't bother you so much that you had to reply to it. Since you brought it up, vaginas are not strong, they are weak. They get infected easily (witness the broad line of vaginal yeast infection creams) and require regular checkups from a doctor specially dedicated t...
[21:14:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brits talk weird - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:47] <exec> 08└─Yeah. If people are restrictive about what meat means in the US, meat would be beef, not pork.
[21:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Meat is meat is meat - 06Germany's Environment Ministry Bans Meat at Official Functions - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:53] <exec> 08└─steamed clownfish Every discussion has to be about Trump.
[21:15:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Chillgamesh [4619] (Score:1) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:16] <exec> 08└─Baseball is a precision skill game and not an endurance game, except for pitchers. Different from both kinds of football
[21:15:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03NotSanguine [285] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:15:27] <exec> 08└─I wonder why you were modded troll? I mean if someone disagrees with you, they should make an argument, not mod you as a troll. I think that anyone who would do that has little intellectual capacity and a lack of any real principles. Don't you agree, Grishnakh?
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[22:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Color me paranoid - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:14] <exec> 08└─I have watched in mild horror as SAAS has become ubiquitous, and I do worry that these things would actually fall under "its not a bug, its a feature!"
[22:10:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:10:16] <exec> 08└─One more step Please complete the security check to access blog.cloudflare.com
[22:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:18] <exec> 08└─If your creator isn't able to make you smart enough to solve a CAPTCHA then don't expect our help!
[22:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:44] <exec> 08└─I would argue that your version is the semantic trickery. I get where you're coming from, the lender can repossess your property if you default on the loan, but that does not mean you don't own it. As some have already pointed out, the vehicle/home is collateral for the loan and not some weird quasi...
[22:10:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:49] <exec> 08└─Flamewar has been enqueued.
[22:10:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 1006 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:51] <exec> 08└─According to Forbes [forbes.com], it is at least alleged in court that some cars have been shut off while in motion. Since it is possible to have the device only signal location once the car is disabled, it seems that the dealer has no legitimate interest in the car's realtime location beyond that....
[22:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"One more step" - 06Netflix Releases Open Source Security Tool "Stethoscope" - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:07] <exec> 08└─"Please complete the security check to access www.securityweek.com" I came to find out about the security check, you insensitive clods!
[22:11:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 1661 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:36] <exec> 08└─In the late 80's I was learning judo. We had a guest instructor come in. In comes this fat, old (to my early 20's eye) guy with a long greying beard who looked a lot to my eye to resemble Captain Lou Albano. We were told he was a former US Judo coach, and he was a very good instructor and clearly ha...
[22:11:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:37] <exec> 08└─Being overweight is detrimental to being a skilled martial artist. You lose flexibility and waste strength hauling that flab around. You also can't move as quickly as you would if you weren't a fat ass. The part of the equation where looks don't matter is mostly in the face.
[22:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:Political BS - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:40] <exec> 08└─I did post AC a few replies down from that post, but that one's not mine. One of the other AC posters conjured in my head a scene from an anime about an aquatranssexual, so I made an obscure reference to it.
[22:11:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03its_gonna_be_yuge! [6454] (Score:1) 02The Eric - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:11:48] <exec> 08└─I haven't heard of Susan Sons until now, but Eric Raymond is certainly a legend in his own mind. A Donald Trump of software pontificating.
[22:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different kind of paper mill - 06Hard Drive LED Allows Data Theft From Air-Gapped PCs - 362 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:17] <exec> 08└─"You have code running on the machine that produces an observable effect, and that effect is then observed. Therefore, you can send a message over that channel." That was the "innovative" discovery. But that would only be one paper; instead they have their friends on the program committee accept a p...
[22:12:36] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03c0lo [156] 02Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 72 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:12:36] <exec> 08└─Because speech should only be free if it's polite and you agree with it.
[22:12:52] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03weeds [611] 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 165 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:52] <exec> 08└─Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;...
[22:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:59] <exec> 08└─Well, too bad. Sometimes you see things you don't like. Toughen up.
[22:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:05] <exec> 08└─Apples, meet rear-axle grease...
[22:13:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 541 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:07] <exec> 08└─Nope, that is quite the apt comparison. To continue it, Googles AI is like paying some local toughs to go tear down / destroy any pamphlets that have undesirable content in them. I can see the usefulness of this tool, but I can also see its application becoming overly broad. The DMCA takedowns shoul...
[22:13:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:09] <exec> 08└─So trolling was quite an endeavor, which either required a genuine investment in time and money, or carried a significant risk of being punched in the face. Both options kept things to reasonable levels which would only interfere with quality of life in extreme cases.
[22:13:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 1038 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:12] <exec> 08└─oh, i have NO PROBLEM with google doing some idiotic 'rating' of toxicity of words... for one, it is so beautifully orwellian as to be breathtaking, i am truly agog with their brazen hubris... (but then, that appears to be the googs real stock in trade...) my problem is if they are going to deprecat...
[22:13:15] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03letssee [2537] 02polite is nice - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:13:16] <exec> 08└─I don't need to agree, but polite would be nice. I'm not saying we should ban rude people from the internet, but I think it would be a good idea if we can use subtle nudges to get people to be more polite that would be a huge win imho.
[22:13:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:27] <exec> 08└─so-o-o-o, it is a self-refuting program ? ? ?
[22:13:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Silly toy, or the western great wall is here - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 609 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:30] <exec> 08└─praise the leader, 3% censorship is great, 7% different opinions are bad, 35% different opinions are improductive, 22% single opinion is productive, 3% only one opinion is good, 2% following like lemmings is the best, 8% "empty" (as in nothing typed or just Enter), 12%... there must be a bug. Beyond...
[22:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:How about - 06Homeland Security Sets Sights on Curbing Wide-Scale DDoS Attacks Amid 'Exponential Increase' - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:47] <exec> 08└─Because everybody knows regulation works as magic, you write it on paper and suddenly you are protected as by a spell against everything that reality throws at you.
[22:15:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:38] <exec> 08└─Only Americans, who are also the people dumb enough to elect Trump
[22:15:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well, I tried... - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 662 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:15:56] <exec> 08└─It is mostly used in a situation where you have a runner on second base, or runners on second and third, with one or two outs and a decent batter coming to bat, and a lesser batter behind him. It sets up a scenario where you force all the runners to run on a hit ball, where if there was no one on fi...
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[23:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:11] <exec> 08└─If you're such a hotshot, explain how you would solve this captcha: http://imgur.com [imgur.com]
[23:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:12] <exec> 08└─It appears to be an exclamation point "!"
[23:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:14] <exec> 08└─that's the default captcha when you're blocking javascript from the first party.
[23:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Article Unreadable - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:17] <exec> 08└─Tor does have its downsides.
[23:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02something something single point of failure - 06Serious Cloudflare Bug Exposed a Potpourri of Secret Customer Data - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:10:19] <exec> 08└─s/t PS: Who the fuck checks for the end of a parsing loop with ==?
[23:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:car alarm story - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:35] <exec> 08└─how much you wanna bet that they can be very easily bypassed if the buyer really forces the issue? Easy enough that there's an Instructable for it. [instructables.com]
[23:10:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 2139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:47] <exec> 08└─If I buy a car, there is no way in HELL I'm taking a loan from the dealer. That's just *asking* to get ripped off. So I get a loan from my credit union and buy the car. So who would you say owns that car? The dealer, even though they've been paid in full? Or the credit union, even though they've nev...
[23:10:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:I'll play Devil's Advocate again! - 06Subprime Auto Lender Facing FTC Inquiry Over GPS-Tracking Kill Switches - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:48] <exec> 08└─When people claim to own something which they have not paid off, they are playing semantic games.
[23:11:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''guy with a long greying beard'' - 06Raymond and Sons: Stirring Up Drama After All This Time - 547 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:40] <exec> 08└─I wish Bill Cosby hadn't turned out to be such a predatory douche. His comedy is timeless. Here I am pointing to his stuff for the 2nd time this week. Bill recalls the time he saw an old dude in original YMCA togs and Bill figures a game of handball with the old fart will yield a light workout and a...
[23:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Because speech should only be free... - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:07] <exec> 08└─> Punching people in the face just because they said something you don't like is unjustifiable. You haven't paid much attention to internet trolls, have you? "something you don't like" includes not silly unpleasant banter, but personal insults, private information with an invite to harm you or your...
[23:13:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03SanityCheck [5190] (Score:2) 02Re:End of Soylentnews - 06Google Fights Online Trolls With New Tool - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:13:18] <exec> 08└─Bill Clinton is a rapist
[23:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Drug chem - 06"Pharmaceutical Hacker" Releasing Plans for "Open-Source Drugs" - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:00] <exec> 08└─Wait... Is 'are' correct and 'is' not correct? Genuinely curious and Google'n is yielding mixed opinions... (different AC asking)
[23:15:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:The death throes of a dying game - 06Major League Baseball Plans to Get Rid of Intentional Walks - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:15:30] <exec> 08└─Wrong. It's not the "namby-pamby" Millennials who love baseball, it's the Trump voters. Statistics show that most baseball fans in the US are over the age of 55, so they're clearly in Trump-voter territory. Bash the Millennials all you want, I'm just pointing out that baseball voters are dumb, and c...
[23:16:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Please explain? - 06Iron Age Potters Carefully Recorded Earth's Magnetic Field — by Accident - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:24] <exec> 08└─Assuming the jugs were fired vertically? Just how large of a sample size are we working with?
[23:16:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Refugee from beyond [2699] (Score:2) 02Re:Please don't find planet nine! - 06Binary Asteroid May Have Been Torn Apart by "Planet Nine" - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:41] <exec> 08└─It should be named Planet X just to fuck with people who “demoted” Pluto.
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