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[00:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Not narcotics... - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:26] <exec> 08└─...I call them alternative pharmaceuticals.
[00:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not narcotics... - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:28] <exec> 08└─Like alternative facts? *rimshot* *crickets*
[00:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:49] <exec> 08└─you vaporize the folks 10 feet away a billion times too much
[00:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:52] <exec> 08└─Put cloth over face, he reaches up to remove, needle-stab him in the genetically-enhanced posterior. Enjoy as doctors and the CIA are puzzled not to find traces in the lungs.
[00:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:55] <exec> 08└─I'd have thought an autopsy would be more along the lines of "what can we definitively establish about how this person died?" rather than "this person may have been poisoned, so let's concentrate on the search for toxins". Obviously in this particular instance I dare say they'll be careful to be ver...
[00:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03inertnet [4071] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:57] <exec> 08└─Could it have been a biological attack? A bacteria containing cloth, handled by someone who was vaccinated against it? Or even a fungus? Something that you don't have to bring into a country, but that can be 'created' in a hotel room.
[00:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:59] <exec> 08└─Name one which kills you in minutes, though...
[00:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hawkwind [3531] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 719 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:01] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't assume too much about how the attack was carried out. I came across different stories yesterday (my favorite was two women stabbing him with needles). Today The Guardian is limiting the cause of the attack to what the victim was believed to had said before dying The estranged older brothe...
[00:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02that's why we have a process for clearances - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:14] <exec> 08└─someone who would bring their iPhone into a top secret area just doesn't get a top secret clearance.
[00:08:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cyborg? Clickbait of the century... (ok, the we - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 648 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:58] <exec> 08└─> to express ourselves more effectively and rapidly To achieve what? more idiocy. Note that the average capacity of humans to express themselves more effectively and rapidly is correlated to an increase in idiocy, not in intelligence. See radio > TV > cellphones > internet and smartphones. I say cor...
[00:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow! Elon is an idiot. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:03] <exec> 08└─you and parent are talking about different things. Parent is underlining human efficient signal processing relating to sensing and movement. You and Musk are referring to the efficiency of human vs. machine in some calculations and data retrieval tasks.
[00:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time for the Butlerian Jihad? - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:12] <exec> 08└─This, there really isn't much reason for a human to need such capabilities! Only nightmare Borg material really.
[00:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Time for the Butlerian Jihad? - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:15] <exec> 08└─The funny thing about that little story is that it became the part of the context of a bunch of books written by Frank Herbert where people acquired the likeness of machines to compensate for the technological destruction and obstruction of the Butlerian Jihad. That "disfigured" the "soul" a bit too...
[00:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:lotta good it'll to them - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 622 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:50] <exec> 08└─You pay the Microsoft tax every time you buy a cell-phone. B&N claims that Android has done in a few short years what Microsoft has been unable to do in 8 or 9 years, that is make a winning mobile OS. So now faced with failure in innovation, it is trying to leverage patents it filed or bought to put...
[00:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:12] <exec> 08└─My comment was too hasty, I missed the first word "if" and mixed it with the 2nd "it" so egg on my face!
[00:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:20] <exec> 08└─If the government has hacked me, they've left no trace that I can find and have done me no harm.
[00:11:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:23] <exec> 08└─Your own government will only ruin your life if they have some information that indicates that they should.
[00:14:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Re:Are you going to MITM TLS too? - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:14:40] <exec> 08└─I meant in traditional sense, without TLS (I though that was clear and I know the user has to manually configure it).
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[01:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Informative) 02not a vacuum (how it works) - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 560 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:17] <exec> 08└─The phys.org page says the experiment was done in a vacuum chamber and that "[l]evitation of macroscopic particles in a vacuum is of particular interest" which is misleading because the Knudsen Compressor effect causing the levitation requires a gas. The pressures used were "between 1 and 10 Torr" a...
[01:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:not a vacuum (how it works) - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 1216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:18] <exec> 08└─more titbits that came up when I searched for information about the Knudsen Compressor effect: An earlier experiment of this sort was done on a rocket following a parabolic trajectory (sothat the effect of gravity was easier to overcome). http://eea.spaceflight.esa.int [esa.int]...
[01:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Cute, but ... - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:21] <exec> 08└─The other night, I made some dark multi-millimeter particles levitate in an upwards flow of molecules which were rising from a hot source towards a cold one. Macroscopic. Normal pressure. Highly reproducible. Sub-dollar costs. Should I publish?
[01:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Only the latest news! - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:39] <exec> 08└─Literally "yesterday's news." In other words, NOT NEWS ANYMORE. Hey takyon, maybe you could submit an article about the Super Bowl -- I bet people would love to know who won.
[01:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:45] <exec> 08└─Hilary and Trump are related: http://thepoliticalinsider.com [thepoliticalinsider.com] http://victuruslibertas.com [victuruslibe...
[01:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:00] <exec> 08└─I believe you're over thinking the situation. The cloth most likely contained a nude picture of Kim Jong-Un spread eagle. The disgust and shock was enough the trigger a heart attack in the fatty half brother. Case closed.
[01:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02North Korea in the Internet age? - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:01] <exec> 08└─One of the assassins was wearing a sweater that said "LOL" on it.
[01:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:that's why we have a process for clearances - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:17] <exec> 08└─Well then, you just move the top secret meetings out of the top secret area.
[01:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Dammit, it ate my link - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:18] <exec> 08└─Missed a bracket, should have hit preview: https://www.theguardian.com [theguardian.com]
[01:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Anybody remember "Breaking In"? - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 380 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:23] <exec> 08└─Not to be confused with Breaking Bad, of course. Starred Christian Slater as a black hat hacker turned security consultant and his crew of rogues and misfits of varying levels of reformation. First season was really good but not widely watched, second season was "retooled" and not good at all. Glad...
[01:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Anybody remember "Breaking In"? - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:25] <exec> 08└─Since the show is produced by HP(??!) I have to expect tons of HP product placement but looking at the web page linked this could be basically a giant infomercial with a big name (but not all that popular recently) actor attached.
[01:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:46] <exec> 08└─They do things like post diaries defending the rich from being blamed.
[01:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:modems - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:15] <exec> 08└─But can you type coherently at 2400 bps? Musk was primarily talking about output rates from the brain into a computer. As for whether that would be useful, in CADCAM work about 5% is figuring out what to do, the other 95% is telling the computer to do it.
[01:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Conundrum - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:25] <exec> 08└─If your complete input and output streams can be recorded, a neural network could be trained on them to emulate you.
[01:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:10:03] <exec> 08└─Trying to read your comment was like a war of attrition. I lost.
[01:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1815 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:00] <exec> 08└─Speakin' of "Jingoism" The "Dogs of War" are loose and the rugged Russian Bear, All bent on blood and robbery has crawled out of his lair... It seems a thrashing now and then, will never help to tame... That brute, and so he's out upon the "same old game"... The Lion did his best... to find him some...
[01:13:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02Re:More mundane stuff like... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:13:59] <exec> 08└─Yep--until this year, my entire street didn't exist, due to the fact that we all had PO boxes: Since the postal service didn't deliver to the street, it wasn't in the USPS database, and everybody, including banks, credit reporting agencies, UPS and FedEx use the USPS database to verify their address...
[01:14:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03darnkitten [1912] (Score:2) 02So how do we poison the fingerprinting? - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:14:52] <exec> 08└─Is there anything effective at the moment?
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[02:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:17] <exec> 08└─Sure, you can bring a new OS to take over the world. Three things: - Security. From day 1 - Easy to get executables for it (compatibility layers or well-fed app store) - Don't you [bleep]ing expect all form factors to use the same interface. Good luck. PS: if you fail, you have to fix all t...
[02:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cute, but ... - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:28] <exec> 08└─Only if you want that sweet grant money.
[02:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Sterling Engine - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:30] <exec> 08└─Isn't that how a sterling engine works?
[02:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:North Korea in the Internet age? - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:11] <exec> 08└─Should have been YOLO.
[02:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:North Korea in the Internet age? - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:13] <exec> 08└─What can I say other than: it worked.
[02:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Brain is too slow. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:08] <exec> 08└─I think you've got the wrong discussion group. Then again I do wish that Commander Taco would join us.
[02:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Cyborg? Clickbait of the century... (ok, the we - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:09:18] <exec> 08└─Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
[02:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:15] <exec> 08└─White vs black? That's only the smallest tip. Furries will love this. 'Artists' will love this. Crazy people will love this. Control freaks will love this. Have a lot of stray cats running around your town? Lets require genderless cats since not everyone spays/neuters. Lets deaden the sexual nerve e...
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[03:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:21] <exec> 08└─Don't want the spyware? Here's the cleaned version. begin 644 andromeda-sans-spyware ` end
[03:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 1057 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:23] <exec> 08└─I don't think that Android is any less "secure" than Linux. The problem with Android is, who "owns" the device, and thus the OS. If your telco "owns" the device, and lets you use it for a fee, then the OS can be considered at least moderately secure, from their point of view. Relatively few of us ac...
[03:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sterling Engine - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:35] <exec> 08└─Yes, the pound has been floating since 1971. [investopedia.com]
[03:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:02] <exec> 08└─Look! They even out them selves! Silly Cyborgs!
[03:10:03] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bootsy [3440] 02Office 365 won't work - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 272 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:10:03] <exec> 08└─Of course they want this as the cloud based application as a service approach won't work if the public internet is constantly discrupted by nation state sponsored cyber attacks. Another good reason not to rent software but to buy outright or use open source/free software.
[03:11:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03mcgrew [701] 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 867 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:39] <exec> 08└─I can't agree. Industry is the biggest problem. If the government has hacked me, they've left no trace that I can find and have done me no harm. On the other hand, Sony hacked me and thousands of others with their XCP vandalware. Purina killed my grandfather when I was seven because they were too ch...
[03:13:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03J053 [3532] (Score:2) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:13:49] <exec> 08└─The law does not require that you give border agents access to your data. They can ask for it and they can hassle you, but ultimately they can not require it without reasonable suspicion.
[03:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:USA not the whole of the 'free world'... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 1020 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:14:24] <exec> 08└─They're well aware of what happened in Canada under the Harper Conservatives. Wholesale destruction of scientific data, as in quite a libraries shredded and dumped. Mostly fishery data as mining is important in Canada and if there is no data on historical mercury concentrations in Lake Foo, can't pr...
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[04:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Tickets! - 06ISRO Makes History, Sets World Record by Successfully Launching 104 Satellites in One Go - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:14] <exec> 08└─Someone needs to ticket them for littering. We are getting more efficient at tossing space junk into orbit, is all I can see. I wonder when we begin to really regret parking tons of crap in near earth orbits?
[04:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Training for coming Space Wars... - 06ISRO Makes History, Sets World Record by Successfully Launching 104 Satellites in One Go - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:16] <exec> 08└─We need to launch a Pac Man satellite, and use it to train future drone satellite/craft pilots. Control(or denial) of the orbitals seem to be a strategic next step. Gah! I can't believe my comment started as a joke, and yet made a serious point.(and yes, I'm aware of orbital mechanics, it was meant...
[04:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Decades of practice - 06ISRO Makes History, Sets World Record by Successfully Launching 104 Satellites in One Go - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:18] <exec> 08└─It's impressive, but not *that* huge a surprise [businessinsider.com].
[04:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Oh sure - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:46] <exec> 08└─I'm totally sure the US gov't is being oh-so honest and doing this only out of pure angelic service to mankind. /sarc
[04:08:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03tangomargarine [667] 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 353 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:07] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack#Attack [wikipedia.org] I mean, they dropped multiple bags of the stuff (almost a liter each, per 5 attackers) in the middle of rush hour in Tokyo and still only managed to kill 12 people. Sounds like a couple drops to the bag would plausibly be...
[04:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Elephant in the Room - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 1471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:08:42] <exec> 08└─Just how much of this untrustworthiness of our systems is due to backdoors deliberately placed in our systems by those wishing to still control their product *after* the sale? How much of this is caused by honoring "hold harmless" clauses.... would we accept this kind of stuff from restauranteurs or...
[04:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reminds me of Dr. Seuss and the Sneetches - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 1735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:22] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sneetches_and_Other_Stories#.22The_Sneetches.22 [wikipedia.org] The first story in the collection tells of a group of yellow creatures called Sneetches, some of whom have a green star on their bellies. At the beginning of the story, Sneetches with stars discriminate...
[04:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:45] <exec> 08└─Kinda coincidental there's a story of how North Korea handles its politics. Right now, this isn't our way of doing it... but it sure looks that's the way we are headed with this incessant monitoring of everyone. Our way of doing it does not involve physical violence or poison... rather it involves "...
[04:13:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Obvious Terror Suspect - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:05] <exec> 08└─Especially the Nordstrom catalog.
[04:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:13:45] <exec> 08└─Customs has more authority granted by congress than any other agency within the US. Customs has supreme authority anywhere near the borders. And, that is why so many of us have objected to the expansion of the border region to include almost all of the populated US. If you live within 150 miles of t...
[04:15:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:15:29] <exec> 08└─I did NOT assert there are no wind farms in Tornado Alley.(although, the only wind turbines I have seen in Oklahoma, have been in pieces loaded on trucks, passing through. I hear there are working wind power-plants somewhere in OK, but I have never seen one. YMMV) I was replying to the reason for th...
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[05:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Tickets! - 06ISRO Makes History, Sets World Record by Successfully Launching 104 Satellites in One Go - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:19] <exec> 08└─Although most of the satellites are very small, they still can track them all. I would guess that using one vehicle to launch multiple satellites might result in fewer pieces of debris. An American company I hadn't heard of before, Planet Inc., owns 88 of the satellites, and will be photographing th...
[05:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:1, Offtopic) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:31] <exec> 08└─Why, oh why would Google host a new OS on Github?
[05:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:33] <exec> 08└─At a guess from the hostname, Google have got their own git server.
[05:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Five things - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:35] <exec> 08└─Sure, you can bring a new OS to take over the world. Three things: - Security. From day 1 - Easy to get executables for it (compatibility layers or well-fed app store) - Don't you [bleep]ing expect all form factors to use the same interface.
[05:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:06] <exec> 08└─Vapors coming back home to roost? He who smelt it dealt it. [wiktionary.org]
[05:10:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 1726 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:09] <exec> 08└─"Uncle Bob" is an idiot. He's trying to make software engineering out to be a profession akin to doctors. We're not. Get over it: we are NOT like doctors. We do not have the same level of responsibility, nor do we have the same levels of education or pay. Most importantly, we do not have the same le...
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[06:07:22] <exec> 08└─Quick! Back this up! Pence is a young Earther, and any evidence of life on other planets would mean that us humans from backwards midwestern states are not so special as we thought we were. So expect this to be deep-sixed by the Trump-Pence Administration. And never forget that it is the Trump/Penc...
[06:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:45] <exec> 08└─Ah, I see in an earlier story that they have a copy on Github. I don't know why that might be a problem. https://github.com [github.com] /article.pl?sid=16/08/14/1252230 [soylentnews.org]
[06:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Cute, but ... - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:57] <exec> 08└─Let me guess. Laying face down in bed after a Taco Bell daily special?
[06:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Inventing reasons? - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:08:10] <exec> 08└─El Aissami, whom local media say is of Syrian and Lebanese descent
[06:08:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:42] <exec> 08└─Maybe they thought they were getting away with something. A knife is an obvious thing. If this had been done successfully might have come off as a heart attack.
[06:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:29] <exec> 08└─Which is the bigger crime?
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[07:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:18] <exec> 08└─At least I can pay anonymously with cash at retail stores. Amazon and such give you no such options. It's sad that so many people don't care about privacy.
[07:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Not narcotics... - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:11] <exec> 08└─But we like our alternative pharmaceuticals. Without them, it's road rage every day.
[07:08:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 396 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:25] <exec> 08└─Can you imagine the primitive governments and Byzantine politics that form when family connections to a country's leader are the most important reins of power to hold. I'm sure happy to live in a modern liberal democracy where no presidents are children or spouses of previous presidents and family b...
[07:14:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump? August? - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:14:57] <exec> 08└─The point is the article implies requiring a login confirms people's fears that trump is burning all the datas.
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[08:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:22] <exec> 08└─So many things I go to WalMart for. Toilet paper. Detergent. Diesel fuel treatments. Tires. Jeans. Socks. Pickles. You name it. Damn near everything. Don't write off WalMart yet. They are an extremely important distribution hub in getting practical staple items to the public.
[08:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Five things - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:53] <exec> 08└─- An OS completely free from proprietary blobs. In other words, freedom (and likely security) from day 1.
[08:08:01] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02Re:not a vacuum (how it works) - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 1216 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:01] <exec> 08└─more titbits that came up when I searched for information about the Knudsen Compressor effect: An earlier experiment of this sort was done on a rocket following a parabolic trajectory (sothat the effect of gravity was easier to overcome). http://eea.spaceflight.esa.int [esa.int]...
[08:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:45] <exec> 08└─Malaysia has decent political and economic ties with North Korea so don't be surprised if they find nothing: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] A Malaysian "university" even gave Kim Jong Un an honorary doctorate: http://www.thestar.com.my
[08:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Direct links to the videos - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:09:16] <exec> 08└─http://storage.media.ext.hp.com/wolf-code-video.webm [hp.com] (VP9 format) http://storage.media.ext.hp.com [hp.com] (H.264 format)
[08:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:38] <exec> 08└─Never forget.
[08:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:51] <exec> 08└─YES! My first 'Troll'-rated post :-) And that with only one line of compassion and another of factual information...
[08:15:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03chromas [34] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:15:08] <exec> 08└─The thing I don't understand about the left wing desire to cry wolf, is the don't understand its not working so they double down
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[09:10:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheLink [332] (Score:2) 02Re:modems - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 1688 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:14] <exec> 08└─Higher bandwidth input is probably easier to do than the other way around. Many musicians can do higher output bandwidths if you include stuff like loudness, phrasing and not just the notes being played. But a fair bit is "muscle memory". It would be interesting if it turns out you could get some pe...
[09:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Conventions on the Rules of Armed Conflict - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:11:04] <exec> 08└─Oh, obviously no one has heard of the Tallinn Manual [wikipedia.org] Kind of a big deal for cyberwarfare, when it came out. But obviously no Microsoft involvement, since they are a weapon and not a party to any international agreements. I am surprised more Soylentils are not up to date on the intern...
[09:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Begging the Question - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:13:00] <exec> 08└─I'd say that ex-FBI man "Jason Truppi, director of endpoint detection and response at security firm Tanium" has something he'd like to sell us.
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[10:08:28] <exec> 08└─It's the oil, stupid.
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[11:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Title vs Summary - 06How Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:13] <exec> 08└─The title does not match the summary.
[11:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03fraxinus-tree [5590] (Score:1) 02Thanks, India... - 06How Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:14] <exec> 08└─for trying a stupid idea and showing it cannot work for everyone to see.
[11:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:28] <exec> 08└─At least I can pay anonymously with cash at retail stores. Amazon and such give you no such options. It's sad that so many people don't care about privacy.
[11:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:30] <exec> 08└─Most stores, including small businesses? And security cameras by themselves do not matter; what matters is whether or not they use facial recognition technology. If most stores are using facial recognition, then maybe everyone should wear full face hijabs or masks.
[11:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 760 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:33] <exec> 08└─Yeah right the death of the brick and mortar described by some idiot who has no clue. The death comes when people have the option to have their goods delivered after 5-6pm when they get home from work or on the weekends. And that assumes you can get them to get by selecting their produce or cuts of...
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[11:08:47] <exec> 08└─FWIW, the estranged brother of Kim Jong-un's looked pretty fat, which for a North Korean means he had it really good most of his life.
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[12:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02scientific method.. - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:16] <exec> 08└─It has been shown that the amyloids are responsible - we don't know if they are the *only* factor. One proof is really quite simple - give the amyloid gene of different lengths (up to 42) to mice, and they develop symptoms in 10 months which mice normally don't (10 months is ancient for a mouse). Tr...
[12:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 326 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:17] <exec> 08└─Too bad biomed programs are driving away all the competent people with their pointless and endless statistical significance hunts. The more money you give them, the more BS they will produce. Amyloids are the most thermodynamically stable state of peptides in general, it is so obvious this idea has...
[12:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02100 bolivar note, 1 month later... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:27] <exec> 08└─for trying a stupid idea and showing it cannot work for everyone to see.
[12:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Dropping linux? - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:15] <exec> 08└─What is gained by dropping linux and replacing it with something else? And why the merge with ChromeOS? Are there actually people out there using ChromeOS?
[12:10:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:55] <exec> 08└─Software is a tool. What you do with it is on you.
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[13:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Just say no - 06How to Poop in Space - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:23] <exec> 08└─Not to the needs of our plumbimg systems, but to microgravity. Many SiFi storys have spun the ship to make gravity. Well, maybe for a start, one could spin the restroom.
[13:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:24] <exec> 08└─This is a remarkably contentless article...
[13:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 167 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:26] <exec> 08└─It's pretty simple actually, Trump has already told us that America is #1, and they're currently running a competition [everysecondcounts.eu] to see who gets to be #2.
[13:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Which link? - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:43] <exec> 08└─I hate articles that link a bunch of keywords to unrelated things and include quotes that aren't linked to anything. Which link is the article referring to?
[13:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Use a different currency - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:45] <exec> 08└─I've wondered if the all this applies to the fatcats in India. Why not just keep your cash stash in Pounds, euros, or Dollars?
[13:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Bummer - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:53] <exec> 08└─Is there any way this can be stopped? Basically, it sounds like the processor is missing some features that would be required to do it properly.
[13:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:04] <exec> 08└─The death comes when people have the option to have their goods delivered after 5-6pm when they get home from work or on the weekends.
[13:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It doesn't pay to bet against Mr. B, but... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:08:06] <exec> 08└─If our President does make buying American popular, then Walmart and Amazon will have a problem with what they sell. Switching to another industry seems wise. Switching from necessities like toothpaste, toilet paper, and food to airlines running on peak oil? Sure, what could go wrong? Too bad the Or...
[13:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Brain is too slow. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:10:40] <exec> 08└─And Cowboy Neal. Let's get the band back together!
[13:11:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:19] <exec> 08└─"Software is a tool. What you do with it is on you. By crappy software I meant software that is badly designed, sloppily coded, or deliberately malicious toward the user. If you choose to infer that MS creates a lot of that, I can't argue." Don't forget hardware...
[13:11:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Office 365 won't work - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:36] <exec> 08└─"Of course they want this as the cloud based application as a service approach won't work if the public internet is constantly discrupted by nation state sponsored cyber attacks." It also won't work if worthless, piece-o-shit, scamming, ad-injecting ISPs like CenturyLink continue to exist.
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[14:07:31] <exec> 08└─various metric tons of SF pseudoscientific tales, and no one thought about the problem of pooping. Solution: leave meatbag home, send bots. Better to be sent in orbit than doing the sex worker or the old meatbags caregiver, or EWWWWW be implanted in one.
[14:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:32] <exec> 08└─various metric tons of SF pseudoscientific tales, and no one thought about the problem of pooping.
[14:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:34] <exec> 08└─Speaking of 2001, I've always found the zero gravity toilet scene subtly hilarious. ZERO GRAVITY TOILET - PASSENGERS ARE ADVISED TO READ INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE USE [ryerson.ca] Dr. Floyd under pressure [blogspot.com].
[14:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Ask... - 06How to Poop in Space - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:37] <exec> 08└─Better ask Howard... on the second thought, better not.
[14:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:39] <exec> 08└─What you want is a cylindrical room with a toilet pan on the wall which can be spun so that the astronaut can sit and get the jobby done. It doesn't need to spin that fast, since you only need a little centripetal acceleration to make Mr Hanky go in the right direction.
[14:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hairyfeet [75] (Score:2) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:17] <exec> 08└─My local supercenter has tons of customers even at 4AM and during primetime? That place is fricking PACKED...yeah I really don't think Wally World has to worry just because some rich old dude dumped their stock.
[14:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03SunTzuWarmaster [3971] (Score:2) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 1400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:18] <exec> 08└─I'm a young-in (30), but you might consider my experience representative: - Toilet paper - I buy this in bulk through BJs or Amazon - Detergent - I buy this in bulk through BJs or Amazon - Diesel fuel treatments - I buy my oil changes from the car repair store (they seem to have the cheapes...
[14:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:50] <exec> 08└─The end user owns the phone?! Don't make me laugh. Apple has always truly owned the phone, just as much if not more than any Android phone is owned by its manufacturer or telco.
[14:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:54] <exec> 08└─Be it enacted by Congress, henceforth all spinners or progress bars shall be required to have unskippable advertisements which promote the increased use of both Clean Coal and Fossil Fuels.
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[15:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02cyber-hygiene for smartphones - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:26] <exec> 08└─The hottest jobs are hairdresser and telephone sanitiser. This story is familiar.
[15:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:cyber-hygiene for smartphones - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:28] <exec> 08└─Take your upmod you dirty geek!
[15:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:30] <exec> 08└─... as they look to keep their embarrassing secrets, naked photos and diva-ish demands out of the hands of hackers.
[15:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 337 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:46] <exec> 08└─Keeping airtight seals when spinning just one room is hard. Easier to spin the entire object in space. However the ISS (for example) is not designed to be spun for artificial gravity, neither is anything else right now. Besides, the are plenty of times when you are not in a position to be spun aroun...
[15:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:47] <exec> 08└─I generally don't poop when I am out for a walk. Why would the seals need to be air tight? I was thinking it would be inside the main hull of the space craft, like a giant washing machine cylinder.
[15:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 1416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:49] <exec> 08└─> I generally don't poop when I am out for a walk. Me neither, but NASA highlighted spacewalks as an issue, so presumably if the spacewalks are long, you need to be able to poop in your suit. A quick search took me to this page: http://www.answers.com [answe...
[15:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:scientific method.. - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 1002 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:59] <exec> 08└─Both the drug mentioned in TFA and the anti-amyloid antibodies from Lilly reduced amyloid in patient CSF (we'll have to wait to see their brains) and they had great results in animal models. If these therapies reduce amyloids, but do not affect disease in any measurable way (despite Lilly running ma...
[15:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:02] <exec> 08└─If everything is so fucking obvious to you, then why don't you cure Alzheimer's? There is plenty of evidence that plaque formation can be pathological. Prion diseases such as Mad Cow, CJD, and CWD show very direct evidence of transmissible disease. Alzheimer's is complicated and there doesn't seem t...
[15:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:04] <exec> 08└─If everything is so fucking obvious to you, then why don't you cure Alzheimer's?
[15:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:16] <exec> 08└─The biggest hypocrisy in a long time... "Damn socialist hippies! Now pay off our debt from bad business decisions, we're too big to fail!"
[15:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Use a different currency - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:19] <exec> 08└─Most likely because the official exchange rate is far below the black market rate, and the black market does not have enough supply of foreign currency, so exchanging it via official channels would be worse than paying actual tax.
[15:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Use a different currency - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:21] <exec> 08└─I've wondered if the all this applies to the fatcats in India. Why not just keep your cash stash in Pounds, euros, or Dollars?
[15:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:24] <exec> 08└─I love how this guy found it not a big problem. He just used all the cash he had of those denominations, passing the problem to those persons. So all his employees had to stand in line to deposit their advances... at least he didn't have to.
[15:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:26] <exec> 08└─This is the traditional way richer Indians deal with poorer Indians. Caste mentality.
[15:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:28] <exec> 08└─Don't think bosses wouldn't do it to their employees in the US under similar circumstances.
[15:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Bummer - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:37] <exec> 08└─It's a hardware issue : ( How can I protect myself as a user against the AnC attack? You unfortunately cannot as AnC exploits the fundamental properties of your processor. You can however stop untrusted JavaScript code from being executed on your browser using a plugin such as NoScript [noscript.ne...
[15:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It doesn't pay to bet against Mr. B, but... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:53] <exec> 08└─If our President does make buying American popular, then Walmart and Amazon will have a problem with what they sell.
[15:08:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03nobu_the_bard [6373] (Score:2) 02or it could be... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:55] <exec> 08└─Or it could be that he can make more money investing in airlines? That Wal-Mart is not the largest possible growth opportunity for Warren Buffet does not mean it's going to die soon. If it dies, it'll be a long and slow process. Look at K-Mart; the downtown area near me would be better off if someon...
[15:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:28] <exec> 08└─What's the problem with hosting on github? https://github.com [github.com]
[15:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Dropping linux? - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:32] <exec> 08└─Just Chromebooks as far as i know.
[15:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Non-GPL license - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:34] <exec> 08└─Duh.
[15:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh sure - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 920 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:58] <exec> 08└─My conspiracy detector plug-in highlighted these words in the press release: Lopez Bello oversees an international network of petroleum, distribution, engineering, telecommunications, and asset holding companies: Alfa One, C.A. (Venezuela), Grupo Sahect, C.A. (Venezuela), MFAA Holdings Limited (Bri...
[15:10:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:that's why we have a process for clearances - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 482 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:57] <exec> 08└─This should only be permitted if the publicly performed top secret meetings of national security can be made sufficiently entertaining for your dinner guests who paid the recently doubled price of $200,000.00 for a membership to your club. They paid this for the unstated, but unspoken understanding...
[15:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:that's why we have a process for clearances - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:59] <exec> 08└─I slapped this related image together in the recently released LibreOffice . . . https://postimg.org [postimg.org]
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[16:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:24] <exec> 08└─Are you saying that if one has nothing to hide, one has nothing to fear? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[16:07:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driverless [4770] 02Re:What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 167 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:34] <exec> 08└─It's pretty simple actually, Trump has already told us that America is #1, and they're currently running a competition [everysecondcounts.eu] to see who gets to be #2.
[16:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:39] <exec> 08└─Dune: use the pouches in your stillsuit. Spaceballs: you can't do that here! This is a Mercedes!
[16:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02In a space suite for 6 days - 06How to Poop in Space - 479 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:46] <exec> 08└─The problem is how to take care of business inside a space suit over a 6 day mission. Diapers and outside catheters seem to be the current options. For females, an inside cath seems a likely solution for #1. For the backside, the body does pretty good containment, until it can't. Perhaps some...
[16:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:57] <exec> 08└─knowing something is the wrong approach
[16:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:59] <exec> 08└─As mentioned, all peptides can form amyloids, they are a generic structure. Beta-sheet aggregates are the lowest energy state for peptides, so there is no mystery they start forming when things get messed up.
[16:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:12] <exec> 08└─"Damn socialist hippies! Now pay off our debt from bad business decisions, we're too big to fail!"
[16:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:14] <exec> 08└─Trying a stupid idea? See it more as an economic experiment by the western banks and Neoliberal politicians.
[16:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:23] <exec> 08└─Id take the advance and go pent rent in advance, now their problem.
[16:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, a US employer might pay in advance, if he knew the money would soon become worthless. That does ring true.
[16:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:27] <exec> 08└─But, it did get around the legality issue of holding all those notes. If the employer took it to the bank, the government would tax it heavily. Perhaps with penalties for not declaring it earlier. By paying salaries in advance, he avoided all that. The employees aren't technically in a problem spot...
[16:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Bummer - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:38] <exec> 08└─Thanks. I do Javascript whitelisting, and recently even started doing it on FireFox for Android. Running extra scripts of a mobile platform just seems dangerous, and silly (for bandwidth and processor).
[16:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03digitalaudiorock [688] (Score:2) 02Still using NoScript - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:40] <exec> 08└─I still use NoScript in spite of the fact that it makes the current sorry excuse for a world Wide Web all but unusable. Some people I know who were using NoScript finally gave up. This sort of thing makes me glad I still do. It really is a grim scene out there though, even on high profile sites that...
[16:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:54] <exec> 08└─I'm a young-in (30), but
[16:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 433 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:57] <exec> 08└─"I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean you don't trust staff to deliver quality goods compared to when the customer picks them out themselves?" Going by what I have seen on the store shelves and the lack of quality when stocked by them not a chance in hell I would trust their judgment as to what is a q...
[16:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:00] <exec> 08└─Yeah right the death of the brick and mortar described by some idiot who has no clue.
[16:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It doesn't pay to bet against Mr. B, but... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 710 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:04] <exec> 08└─Conventional wisdom is that, for Walmart at least, is that a good deal of their store is stocked with cheaper foreign-made items, which is why they can sell at low prices. I think his point is that their prices will have to rise. I have also heard that, again, for Walmart at least, that they really...
[16:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It doesn't pay to bet against Mr. B, but... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:06] <exec> 08└─I think his point is that their prices will have to rise.
[16:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:It doesn't pay to bet against Mr. B, but... - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:08] <exec> 08└─the average home owner who is remodeling their kitchen only needs that $100 circular saw to work well for a dozen or so times, but you're making a mistake buying any tools there if your livelihood depends upon your tools).
[16:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03joshuajon [807] (Score:2) 02Re:Dropping linux? - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:47] <exec> 08└─I understand chromebooks are pretty popular in the k-12 market.
[16:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Rex Tillerson Does Not Like Venezuela - 06U.S. Treasury Designates Venezuelan Vice President as a Drug Kingpin - 594 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:12] <exec> 08└─There has been tons of media reporting on Tillerson's cold war with venezuela. http://www.foxnews.com [foxnews.com] http://www.businessinsider.com
[16:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:33] <exec> 08└─Carter was a one-term president because of the Billy Beer affair. He conveniently omitted that from his editorial.
[16:10:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:43] <exec> 08└─Concentration Camps for immigrants Alternative freedom areas, you mean.
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[17:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 2788 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:26] <exec> 08└─In order to write a program, you need defined behavior. Every "Hello World" program ever written assumes that the language and underlying system provide certain defined behavior guarantees that under normal operating conditions will result the famous greeting. When the programmer writes even a simpl...
[17:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Use gcc -ftrapv - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:28] <exec> 08└─Most of the time I want an addition operation to spectacularly fail with an exception if it overflows. But there may be times where I don't care what happens in the event of overflow because I can guarantee before the addition is done that overflow simply cannot occur. The simple example is that the...
[17:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:30] <exec> 08└─You are confusing implementation-specific behaviors with undefined. They are NOT the same. Printing "hello world" is not undefined.
[17:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 728 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:32] <exec> 08└─NEVER assume you are more clever than the language designers, unless you know specifically what a piece of code does, you should always program with the mindset that it causes the user's computer to explode with Lovecraft tentacles. Undefined behavior is as it's name suggests, undefined. It could ca...
[17:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Just looking at it.. - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 763 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:34] <exec> 08└─Just looking at it there seems to be an assumption that undefined values == undefined behavior when that is not the case. The compiler is preventing undefined behavior by introducing undefined values and non-signaling NaNs. I guess that is the point of what they are saying? But equating the two seem...
[17:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:undefined values != undefined behavior - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:36] <exec> 08└─I thought the same thing looking at `undef`, but when it gets to `poison` that's where undefined behavior comes in. It's still not the "external undefined behavior" we are supposed to avoid, however.
[17:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:39] <exec> 08└─Programmers really are getting dumber and dumber. Undefined behavior IS dangerous and stupid, and is NOT a design decision.
[17:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:50] <exec> 08└─Jerks tend to react like jerks when critizing other jerks. Its a regular jerk-o-thon! Why don't the grand parent just keep his mind on his/her own business, it would do all of us a favor.
[17:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 550 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:51] <exec> 08└─There are several aspects of this that make this substantially different: 1. The consequences of the things we're talking about here are public embarrassment, not imprisonment or something like that. And not even that much public embarrassment, at this point, because very few people really care. 2....
[17:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02high-net-worth [HNW] clients - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:54] <exec> 08└─Sounds better than rich clients?
[17:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just say no - 06How to Poop in Space - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:04] <exec> 08└─The klingons around uranus will always be a concern.
[17:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The easy solution... - 06How to Poop in Space - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:16] <exec> 08└─Attach a hose to a port on the wall of the spacecraft that vents to space, with a valve to control flow. Attach hose to M1 adapter (for #1 male) or F1 (for #1 female) or U2 (for unisex #2), let it flow.
[17:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Impossible task - 06How to Poop in Space - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:18] <exec> 08└─Intellectual Property Innovators who are awarded a prize for their submission must agree to grant NASA a royalty free, non-exclusive, irrevocable, world-wide license in all Intellectual Property demonstrated by the winning/awarded submissions. See the Challenge-Specific Agreement, which will be made...
[17:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Known to be wrong for a long time - 06Another Failed Alzheimer's Disease Therapy - 606 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:33] <exec> 08└─Prions also form amyloids and their formation directly induces disease. How is it obvious that the amyloids in Alzheimer's are benign? Populations with genetic determinants that specifically predispose them to producing amyloid beta in the brain develop early onset Alzheimer's at a much higher rate...
[17:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:48] <exec> 08└─The "private debts" were owed by Greece. Funny how states don't need to pay back money when it's owed to people you don't like.
[17:08:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03j-beda [6342] (Score:1) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 651 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:59] <exec> 08└─But, it did get around the legality issue of holding all those notes. If the employer took it to the bank, the government would tax it heavily. Perhaps with penalties for not declaring it earlier. By paying salaries in advance, he avoided all that. The employees aren't technically in a problem spot...
[17:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:Still using NoScript - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:12] <exec> 08└─I stopped using NoScript around 2013. The modern world wide web is almost completely broken by it as the use of JavaScript has become nearly 100% ubiquitous now. I just have to hope that uBlock Origin, Disconnect, and Privacy Badger are good enough.
[17:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Interesting) 02Re:Still using NoScript - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 1106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:13] <exec> 08└─As someone who works for a company that produces a javascript heavy site, I will add that internally it's just as frustrating. It's the same old story heard over and over again. Features that can be done quickly are prioritized over features that take more time. Implementing in JavaScript using thir...
[17:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03lcall [4611] (Score:1) 02Re:Still using NoScript - 06Researchers Bypass ASLR Protection with Simple JavaScript Code - 989 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:15] <exec> 08└─Compliments to AC on how you put that. I just try, when possible, to not need or use sites, that require javascript. Most of what I want is text anyway or I try to find it elsewhere. I've got the habit of leaving a tab open to turn javascript on for those rare occasions I really need something on a...
[17:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 683 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:26] <exec> 08└─Big difference between a security camera and a database that records every individual purchase. One requires a human to do some investigation, the other can be spread around from a chair. Security footage would still have to be matched with receipts and timestamps, online db has all the juicy detail...
[17:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:35] <exec> 08└─"Have you ever heard of Warren Buffet?!" So just because he is rich as fuck does not mean he cannot have a bad day at the office and be talking shit for brains foolishness.
[17:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:38] <exec> 08└─Seriously: go read the Wikipedia article. He's not just rich; he's demonstrated he's an excellent investor.
[17:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:2) 02Different business models - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 3154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:09:46] <exec> 08└─I'm not sure it's fair to compare Amazon to Walmart with respect to how they do business. Virtually anyone can sell on Amazon. Amazon is less like Walmart, and more like the person who owns a big strip mall and leases space to a bunch of various stores. They make money no matter who moves in and sel...
[17:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Moderation fail - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:06] <exec> 08└─How on earth does this mocking "Fuck off" post get modded +2 but the reply to it gets -1 Troll? Something is amiss.
[17:12:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03jummama [3969] (Score:2) 02Re:Seed of the Borg - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:38] <exec> 08└─Resistance is futile (if 1 ohm)
[17:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Already cyborgs - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:43] <exec> 08└─Also how I see it. Wearable tech, computers getting much more smaller, wireless internet access, Siri/Cortana, and more "seamless" human/device interfaces. Smartphones already augment us with photographic memory, navigation, info etc. Surgery as sci-fi might fantasize about is not really necessary.
[17:12:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Already cyborgs - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:12:45] <exec> 08└─...at least not until we know how to utilize such surgical modifications in a way that outperforms non invasive options. more neuroscience research is needed!
[17:13:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Conventions on the Rules of Armed Conflict - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:51] <exec> 08└─getting a total idiot elected president of America!
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[18:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No thanks - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 298 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:38] <exec> 08└─Maybe I'd use one of those on a golf course, but no way I'd take one on the road. I get lighter vehicles are cheaper and can get better mileage, but I'll take an electric motorcycle or moped over that thing any day. It needs to be higher up and a little larger, preferably able to carry two people.
[18:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:40] <exec> 08└─As for the final price of the Iris eTrike Eco will be priced at £2,999 and the Iris eTrike Extreme will cost £3,499.
[18:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02less space than a Bond Bug - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:42] <exec> 08└─It's a one-seater. The maximum speed is only 25 mph as against 15 mph for the C5. At least it has a windscreen. Does it even come in orange?
[18:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 1729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:53] <exec> 08└─I used Hello World to point out that programmers have expectations of well defined behaviors being defined to achieve the desired result. Common operations should not have undefined behaviors. If it is useful to do so, then introduce an annotation or differently named operator which has undefined be...
[18:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:59] <exec> 08└─Sometimes undefined behavior is a decision made in the language specification. IMO that is a bad idea for portability. I think a language specification that leaves things "implementation defined" are almost as bad as undefined.
[18:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Undefined behavior is an optimization trap - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 1140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:02] <exec> 08└─I recall reading an article a while back that pointed out that even relatively benign undefined behavior can become a serious problem when it encounters the compiler's optimization engine, especially at more aggressive optimization levels. "Undefined" means the compiler can make very wrong assumptio...
[18:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Undefined behavior is an optimization trap - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:04] <exec> 08└─If you want to do that, write it a level lower than C. Undefined behavior in C is machine-dependent, so if you are optimizing for a particular machine's behavior you should really just be writing machine code for it to begin with. Or you stop trying to optimize yourself, write code that describes yo...
[18:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Undefined behavior is an optimization trap - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:06] <exec> 08└─Was the article named "what every C programmer should know about undefined behaviour?"
[18:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Define "Undefined" - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 2481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:08] <exec> 08└─In my Computer Science classes, we were taught that "undefined behavior" means anything can happen. It could do what you want, or it could throw an exception. Or it could spin the disk drive to unsafe speeds until the disc flies out of the computer and kills the operator. You just don't know. This w...
[18:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Embrace chaos! - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:10] <exec> 08└─I program in Trump++
[18:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Embrace chaos! - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:13] <exec> 08└─I agree with your sentiment, but trump is actually a highly ordered pile of shit.
[18:08:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:26] <exec> 08└─The article says "personal photos of Prince George and Princess Charlotte" were among the pilfered data. Those people are children. They didn't choose to be celebrities. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Booming Business but consider Taxes - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:28] <exec> 08└─It sounds like hacking has become a booming business. Maybe that means the tax returns will be made public at some point. Hackers have all sorts of different motives. Money. Fame. Politics. Sex. As an escape from having to venture forth from the basement to take the trash out.
[18:08:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:The easy solution... - 06How to Poop in Space - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:52] <exec> 08└─Constipation will be a thing of the past. You'll go, whether you want to or not.
[18:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:23] <exec> 08└─for trying a stupid idea and showing it cannot work for everyone to see.
[18:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 574 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:00] <exec> 08└─Don't mistake "how it's done now by understaffed tech-incompetent police departments" for "required". Facial recognition is a solved problem these days (ask Apple and Facebook, if the feds won't answer your emails) and correlating that identity to the right transaction record is a simple query. Th...
[18:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:06] <exec> 08└─Not to dispute anything else you said, but at 30, you are no longer a young'un. Sorry, you are a mature adult.
[18:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:08] <exec> 08└─"Sorry, you are a mature adult." Well, adult, in any case.
[18:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Perverse incentive - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:13] <exec> 08└─Every grocery is going to have a few bananas that turn brown and a few pieces of meat that are mostly fat and gristle. In ye olden tymes when people went to the grocery store and picked their meat and produce in person, they would have to throw bad items out or mark them way down. Adding a delivery...
[18:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 483 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:18] <exec> 08└─Yes, he could have a bad day at the office. He could be making a mistake. Or he could be just plain wrong in this decision. However, one thing you can't say is that "he has no clue." He's demonstrated time and again insight and foresight. Or are you suggesting he just "got lucky" over the period of...
[18:11:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03andersjm [3931] (Score:1) 02Re:Non-GPL license - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:03] <exec> 08└─So what is the license? Presumably you found out, so why not tell the rest of us?
[18:11:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Cute, but ... - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:16] <exec> 08└─Patent of the Month: Bob_super is granted exclusive rights to fire!
[18:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Moderation fail - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 13 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:48] <exec> 08└─get modded +2
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[19:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Racist old bastard - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 530 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:31] <exec> 08└─Sure, Winnie was a racist old bastard. He was a product of the late victorian era, and as such was a man of his times. However, if you read his actual writings about his experiences, you can see that he was perceptive, open to the nature of the human condition, and quite capable of putting aside pre...
[19:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 1734 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:52] <exec> 08└─I think you completely misunderstand the meaning of "undefined" and "implementation defined". Just because it is not documented does not turn "implementation defined" into "undefined". "implementation defined" means it has a specific, reproducible behaviour. So if you exhaustively test that your cod...
[19:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:An alternate solution to the problem - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 372 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:19] <exec> 08└─Anyone who still says that didn't watch the last US election. If one has nothing to hide, one can still be put off-message by a constant stream of "whatabout"-ism and lose an election that should have been a slam dunk. Oh, and a bunch of 4chan weirdos will make up an elaborate conspiracy theory ab...
[19:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score:1) 02No thanks, I'm good - 06How to Poop in Space - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:46] <exec> 08└─I'll just hold it until I get home.
[19:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02What's new - 06How to Poop in Space - 511 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:48] <exec> 08└─Who said it was easy even down here? It was the very first engineering challenge: the guy who figured out that the soup would taste better if the latrine were downstream was the very first engineer, and it never went away: how we take a dump is a decent indicator of where we are in technology. One g...
[19:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 634 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:57] <exec> 08└─>One requires a human to do some investigation The lesson you should take away from recent advances in AI is this: information always wins. So long as you have information that is not 100% random noise, it will be possible to analyze it automatically and extract every bit of information out of it. A...
[19:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:04] <exec> 08└─Sorry you were born in the "wrong decade", but 30 is the new 20. And I find it hard to take a lot of 30 year-olds seriously now a days, especially ones who still live with their parents.
[19:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 1047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:06] <exec> 08└─OP here. I agree that I am a mature adult. However, the critical market segment that shops at Walmart is the "household", which I think of as the "buys clothes with their own money" age demographic, being represented roughly in ages 20-70. At age 30, I'm on the young side of that demographic, and, a...
[19:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Perverse incentive - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 527 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:13] <exec> 08└─"Adding a delivery business gives them a chance to move the crap out the door at full price!" Indeed my thoughts on it as well. I really cannot see people going for it, it is not like we are past the point of selecting your own at this time. Now durable goods you can wait for like toothpaste, deterg...
[19:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:19] <exec> 08└─"However, one thing you can't say is that "he has no clue." He's demonstrated time and again insight and foresight. Or are you suggesting he just "got lucky" over the period of decades?" Really when I think about it more I doubt he even said that, it is most likely some moron writing a click bait he...
[19:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:21] <exec> 08└─Yeah right the death of the brick and mortar described by some idiot who has no clue. Have you ever heard of Warren Buffet?! I don't think that quote is from Buffet, it's hyperbole from the article author.
[19:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:23] <exec> 08└─Maybe his comment is aimed at the writer not the investor. Buffett will simply move his money to a place where he sees more growth potential so his ROI is higher. It doesn't mean brick-and-mortar will disappear. Last time someone told me brick-and-mortar stores would soon be out of business was some...
[19:12:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah that would be terrible, but I would still support Ivanka as the First Female (and Jewish) POTUS, if only to have the LEFT paint her as LITERATELY MYSAGONISTIST HITLER.
[19:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:19] <exec> 08└─At least three people have now been arrested. http://www.radionz.co.nz [radionz.co.nz]
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[20:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 1791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:20] <exec> 08└─The biggest proof of intelligent life out there is that they haven't contacted us. We are at the point now were a manned mission to mars is barely a possibility... and even that would take a year plus mission. Our level of technology isn't even close to the point of letting us have manned missions t...
[20:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:29] <exec> 08└─It's hard to find an electric-assist bike for under $1000 in the US. And that's with 2 wheels, no panels, a tiny battery, no bodywork, and higher sales volumes.
[20:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03klondike0 [1511] (Score:1) 02Re:Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 429 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:31] <exec> 08└─Another question is whether a company can sell a good bike for less than $1000 -- doesn't seem to happen much (Nashbar maybe?). I think that bikes are one of those things that last a long time and the market is normally saturated, so they have to make more money on something that *should* be quite c...
[20:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:45] <exec> 08└─I understand exactly what you describe as undefined and implementation defined behavior. I have understood it for decades, across different languages and compilers. I think a language specification that leaves anything undefined is a bad idea. That is an opinion. I think a language specification tha...
[20:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Confusiong two things - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:58] <exec> 08└─A language having constructs with undefined behaviour doesn't make that language inherently unsafe. Code that triggers undefined behaviour is inherently unsafe.
[20:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:28] <exec> 08└─The cool part about this website, and the internet in general, is the hyperlinks which take you to other pages which have more information. Pro-tip: look for the words that have an underline and click your left mouse button while the cursor is on them.
[20:08:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:39] <exec> 08└─> I generally don't poop when I am out for a walk. I was going to suggest telling the astronauts to just go to the outhouse. Great view, no need to dig a hole, and no smell either. Then I thought about how unpleasant it would be for another ship to get hit by a multi-km/s frozen turd.
[20:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''a hose [...] that vents to space'' - 06How to Poop in Space - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:43] <exec> 08└─It wouldn't surprise me to know that there have been numerous terrestrial events involving a vacuum cleaner hose and someone's privates. It also wouldn't surprise me to learn of numerous hospital records related to these. El Reg has reported numerous times about events with spider bites and improvis...
[20:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:18] <exec> 08└─To me the point was not that this "cannot work", as it can, but rather that the costs are excessive. Of course, if you don't care about those who need to bear the costs this won't bother you.
[20:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:58] <exec> 08└─Amazon themselves may not give you the option (yet), but there are third-party services that will let you pay for Amazon (or other e-tailers) with bitcoin.
[20:10:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:08] <exec> 08└─Reasonable arguments, but the charges for delivery often make shopping the better choice. For clothes I'd like to say that being able to try them on for fit is also important, but, for me, getting to a clothes store has become so difficult that now I *do* order over the internet, even though I'd rat...
[20:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Non-GPL license - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:07] <exec> 08└─They do seem to be rather shy about specifying the license. You may need to download the source to find out what it is, as I didn't see anything while around the site. A short google search reports "License, Various, including Revised BSD, MIT and Apache 2. ", so perhaps there's no consistent licens...
[20:11:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Foobar Bazbot [37] (Score:2) 02Re:Dropping linux? - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 1034 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:10] <exec> 08└─Well, yes. I use a chromebook -- Asus Chromebook Flip; the best ARM netbook I know of. I was thinking of blowing away ChromeOS completely, but initially set up Crouton (a chroot-based heap of scripts and what-not to run Debian, Ubuntu, etc. alongside ChromeOS) and was won over by the convenience of...
[20:11:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02not a vacuum (how it works) - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 560 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:11:18] <exec> 08└─The phys.org page says the experiment was done in a vacuum chamber and that "[l]evitation of macroscopic particles in a vacuum is of particular interest" which is misleading because the Knudsen Compressor effect causing the levitation requires a gas. The pressures used were "between 1 and 10 Torr" a...
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[21:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02begs - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:13] <exec> 08└─What does the goatsee?
[21:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:begs - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:14] <exec> 08└─It's about not just what it sees, but also what it hears and smells.
[21:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Drumf - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:16] <exec> 08└─http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/pentagon-responds-michael-flynn-2015-russia-visit-235090 [politico.com] Democracy is fucking up all those Russian bitches.
[21:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Drumf - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:19] <exec> 08└─The only topic is trump. Trump wants that to be the only topic. We want it to be the only topic.
[21:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02what? when? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:21] <exec> 08└─Up until the late 1960s, the overwhelming assumption was that only humans could mentally keep track of how other individuals look, smell, and sound
[21:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:what? when? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:23] <exec> 08└─That's as completely absurd as assuming that there is only life on Earth. But calling other (or not) lifeforms dumb does help when you want to massively slaughter them. I propose that we start every scientific endeavor by assuming that the Earth and Human traits are far from unique, and require that...
[21:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:what? when? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:25] <exec> 08└─Well, yea, actually, a lot of cognitive bias was there.
[21:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03driven [6295] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 136 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:35] <exec> 08└─IMHO, we need to have significant changes to society before we can truly tackle the challenges of space travel outside our solar system.
[21:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:38] <exec> 08└─The biggest proof of intelligent life out there is that they haven't contacted us. We are at the point now were a manned mission to mars is barely a possibility...
[21:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:48] <exec> 08└─Personally, I do not find [amazon.com] that [roadbikeoutlet.com] to be true [ridegenesis.com]. Of course, if you insist on buying from a local bike shop (which is probably a good idea), these prices will probably go up any from 10 to 50% or possibly even more, which will put my examples over $1000.
[21:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03AndyTheAbsurd [3958] (Score:2) 02Re:Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:50] <exec> 08└─I think that depends on what you consider "good". I'd bet we can both agree that if you're buying your bike at Wal-Mart, chance are that it's not good - but I find my Electra Townie 7D to be a good bike and I've only got about $750 in it - including a number of accessories.
[21:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:06] <exec> 08└─Well, have fun with your toy languages. Any real language will have corners that are undefined, implementation-specific, or unspecified. It's just the nature of the beast.
[21:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 1251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:09] <exec> 08└─A program should *never* depend on undefined behavior at all. I saw a program that once used negative array aliasing (aka array[-3] to do "clever" magic) that blew up skyhigh when the compiler was swapped out. The single exception to this is a closed platform where you'll never have updates or chang...
[21:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:11] <exec> 08└─Um, negative indices are defined behavior in C and C++. Accessing memory outside of the array is what is undefined. If I had a pointer that pointed to the 4 element of an array, this is perfectly defined: p[-3].
[21:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:13] <exec> 08└─Sure, it's undefined, but I think all the compiler vendors actually do the same thing - check for reallocation in debug, and let it blow up with debug off. It's odd though, and always bugged me, that there's not a "slow but safe" choice in this case. Offering both the safe way and the fast way makes...
[21:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:19] <exec> 08└─No sh*t. I don't know how any of what you said disputes what I said. At least with implementation defined, the vendor is required to document the behavior. If a language standard marks something as undefined behavior, you should NOT do it.
[21:08:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 1615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:21] <exec> 08└─In C (and IMHO, some low level languages), there's an exception to implementation defined that actually makes things easier. My canonical "go to" on to this that actually makes sense and that the volatile keyword (it's also a fun trivia question since most programmers can't describe it). Specificall...
[21:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Define "Undefined" - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 718 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:27] <exec> 08└─Since you're talking about Java, iterators and Iterator:delete, I'll point out that you can implicitly use iterators in a for() loop without realizing you're using an iterator. The iterator may no longer be able to traverse the collection if you call a remove() method on the collection. List<Presi...
[21:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Embrace chaos! - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:32] <exec> 08└─It's the most highly ordered. I promise. Trust me! I have more entropy than anyone else. And believe me, I know about entropy! Entropy definition: 2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.
[21:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Confusiong two things - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:35] <exec> 08└─Absolutely true. However, how unsafe I would consider a language is directly related to how often and how easy it is to use those constructs with undefined behavior.
[21:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Confusiong two things - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:37] <exec> 08└─Sure, if you're an idiot that needs a slow, safe language to hold your hand.
[21:08:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02cyber-hygiene for smartphones - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 81 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:08:45] <exec> 08└─The hottest jobs are hairdresser and telephone sanitiser. This story is familiar.
[21:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:cyber-hygiene for smartphones - 06Hacking: a Multi-Billion-Dollar Industry that will Quadruple in Size in 3 Years - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:48] <exec> 08└─Opening more land to logging and fracking, as well as defunding the EPA, are necessary steps before adopting the leaf as our currency.
[21:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:The easy solution... - 06How to Poop in Space - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:23] <exec> 08└─Hemorrhoids, however...
[21:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Pay with cash - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:40] <exec> 08└─Can I use a blockchain delivery address for my oversized gun safe?
[21:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Learn from MS... - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:44] <exec> 08└─It also helps if you give it ample targets for pejorative nicknames. I think that fucksya is rather appropriate given the company.
[21:11:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03andersjm [3931] (Score:1) 02Re:Non-GPL license - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 417 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:50] <exec> 08└─That's a bit scary. If the "various licenses" are for libraries used by Andromeda and not Andromeda itself, it could be that there is no license at all. And that doesn't mean a free-for-all: If there's no license then they haven't granted the public license to do anything, and that means they could...
[21:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Space Flight - 06New Method Uses Heat Flow to Levitate Variety of Objects - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:12:08] <exec> 08└─This would be great to see applied to lifting space ships into orbit. They could be designed to expel vast amounts of heat downward countering the effect of gravity to produce upward motion.
[21:14:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03urza9814 [3954] (Score:2) 02Re:Cyborg? Clickbait of the century... (ok, the we - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 499 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:21] <exec> 08└─Far from becoming the borg, the idea is just to have a connection enabling humans to convert their thoughts to meaningful digital output enabling us to express ourselves more effectively and rapidly. It's not some distant future sci-fi fantasy - just a simple correlational mapping between various qu...
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[22:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:what? when? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 605 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:39] <exec> 08└─I find that comment incredibly hard to believe too, given that it was already well established that a number of species mate for life; how else were these creatures supposed to tell their specific partner from any other random member of their species if not by look, smell and sound? The only plausib...
[22:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score:1) 02Re:what? when? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:41] <exec> 08└─My cat definately knows different humans, and can clearly recognise itself in the mirror.
[22:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Using multiple Modals is bad enough - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:43] <exec> 08└─Using multiple Modals is bad enough! Very resource intensive. Using more than one Goat on a page? INSANITY.
[22:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Informative) 02Wasn't this a film? - 06Cross-Modal Recognition in Goats - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:45] <exec> 08└─The Goats Who Stare at Goats (and go "Don't I know you?")
[22:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Racist old bastard - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:54] <exec> 08└─Sure, Winnie was a racist old bastard.
[22:07:56] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03driven [6295] 02Re:I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 136 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:57] <exec> 08└─IMHO, we need to have significant changes to society before we can truly tackle the challenges of space travel outside our solar system.
[22:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:00] <exec> 08└─The biggest proof of intelligent life out there is that they haven't contacted us.
[22:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Electric is nice, at what price? - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 667 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:13] <exec> 08└─You don't think Walmart bikes are good? Why not? I don't have one, but I have looked at a couple somewhat recently, out of curiosity. They have an aluminum hybrid with Shimano components for about $150. It's not the lightest bike I've lifted, but it's also not a pure road bike, it's a hybrid with wi...
[22:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02The C5 s a joke... - 06IRIS: New Edition of the Sinclair C5 Electric Trike - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:08:16] <exec> 08└─Arguably, the C5 set back the cause of EVs by a generation,
[22:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 623 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:35] <exec> 08└─I didn't describe it well. Basically it was something like this. int location_one; int location_two; int location_three; int location_end; printf("%d", location_end[-2]); As far as I could tell, the entire point of it was to avoid having to do update calculations (i.e., have an array, and a macro wi...
[22:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03lgw [2836] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 480 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:43] <exec> 08└─Is the correct behavior for volatile for multi-threaded code in the C standard now? People were using it as if it would work in C, C++, Java, and C#, but none of the language standards required that - changing outside of control of the program is different from changing outside of control of the thr...
[22:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Oh GOD - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:46] <exec> 08└─I haven't seen the ANSI C specification in many years, so I don't know if the literal definition has changed but I doubt it. More specifically, C doesn't handle threads at all in a language specification level. In the specification, violate means that the pointer has to be treated exactly as coded,...
[22:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Undefined behavior is an optimization trap - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 716 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:50] <exec> 08└─If you write any lower than C, my understanding is you're probably not going to be getting much compiler optimization anyway. And the point is that undefined behavior is not only machine dependent, but also compiler (and compiler settings) dependent, and can spill across considerable distances withi...
[22:09:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:29] <exec> 08└─If America is #1 what did he pay those Russian hookers for?
[22:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:35] <exec> 08└─TL;DR! 💩
[22:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:38] <exec> 08└─It was key to the plot of The Martian.
[22:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03shipofgold [4696] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:45] <exec> 08└─If I read TFA correctly the issue really is what happens when there is a catastrophic failure in the spacestation and the astronauts need to put on spacesuits for an extended period of time. Those diapers are going to get pretty ripe after 4-5 days.
[22:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:48] <exec> 08└─I was going to suggest telling the astronauts to just go to the outhouse. Great view, no need to dig a hole, and no smell either.
[22:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:28] <exec> 08└─But they were owed to non-public institutions
[22:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Thanks, India... - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:32] <exec> 08└─They have clearly not gotten 100% of the black money. But if they got 90% of it, for example, would you still say that it didn't work?
[22:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:pass the literal buck^H^H^H^Hrupee - 06How Some Indians Dodged Government's 'Black Money' Clampdown [Updated] - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:44] <exec> 08└─The whole exercise might have had the effect of getting a whole lot of cash out of the box-under-the-bed and into the banking system where it might have positive effect by now being able to be loaned out to others. Sitting under the mattress, it does nothing for the economy, but in the bank it can b...
[22:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I like WalMart - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:25] <exec> 08└─OP here. Yea, I'm pretty boring/efficient. As a byproduct, I order a pair of pants, try them on, make sure they fit, return if necessary, and then order a stack of them from the same company. This way I only end up buying clothes once every few years. The second problem is that the selection on the...
[22:11:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:38] <exec> 08└─in all likelihood will never happen as I cannot see the way they will convince people to give up the habits of a lifetime for the supposed advantage it will provide.
[22:11:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Different business models - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:47] <exec> 08└─You work at Walmart, don't you?
[22:12:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Dropping linux? - 06Google’s Not-So-Secret New OS - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:31] <exec> 08└─What is gained by dropping linux and replacing it with something else?
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[23:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Compromise solution - 06Tata Steel Workers Agree to Pension Cuts to Save 8,000 Jobs - 506 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:16] <exec> 08└─So the day is saved. The company is now in stable financial grounds, so the executive team can give themselves their large annual bonuses. They did save the company after all. And then come 5 years from now, when they face the next financial crunch, well, they can always re-negotiate with the worker...
[23:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03varsix [5867] (Score:1) 02Time - 06Tata Steel Workers Agree to Pension Cuts to Save 8,000 Jobs - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:17] <exec> 08└─Give it 5 years and they'll take those jobs anyway. And they'll have the added bonus of having to pay less in pensions!
[23:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Time - 06Tata Steel Workers Agree to Pension Cuts to Save 8,000 Jobs - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:19] <exec> 08└─Give it 5 years and they'll take those jobs anyway.
[23:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another labor action recently concluded - 06Tata Steel Workers Agree to Pension Cuts to Save 8,000 Jobs - 2256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:21] <exec> 08└─Mort Zuckerman's ass-kissing New York Daily News ran with the headline The workers win one at Momentive [nydailynews.com] As the company's business deals with exotic chemicals, cuts to healthcare are NOT a "win" for workers. The World Socialist Web Site, which actually represents The Working Class,...
[23:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I've always have believed - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:52] <exec> 08└─or their space fleet of Doom is already heading towards us to annihilate us in a first strike attack
[23:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Alien life - 06Winston Churchill on Aliens - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:53] <exec> 08└─Wonder what Sir Winston would have thought about transsexuals?
[23:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Defined Behavior is more often needed - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:24] <exec> 08└─"Undefined" is a completely different thing. There are NO guarantees about undefined behaviour. Your program may crash, abort, start deleting random files, that's all perfectly valid behaviour.
[23:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Assumptions are bad - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:31] <exec> 08└─It's odd though, and always bugged me, that there's not a "slow but safe" choice in this case. Offering both the safe way and the fast way makes sense for fundamental library actions, as with index-based element access.
[23:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Undefined behavior is an optimization trap - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 441 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:43] <exec> 08└─C is about as close to metal as you can get short of assembly; it's a reasonably good abstraction of the function of any turning complete machine; when you get down to it, C is basically just load, store and math operations with labels and stack management. On some architectures, it's completely pos...
[23:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Define "Undefined" - 06Undefined Behavior != Unsafe Programming - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:48] <exec> 08└─Far too many languages let you do this and leave it to the runtime to decide to crash or not. As far as I know, Rust is the only language off the top my head that specifically checks if such an operation is safe at compile time, and dies with a compiler error if you would invalidate the iterator whi...
[23:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03deadstick [5110] (Score:2) 02Re:What were the solutions? - 06How to Poop in Space - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:25] <exec> 08└─You must be a witch.
[23:09:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06How to Poop in Space - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:33] <exec> 08└─Heh, there has been a LOT of thought on that. Just to add, from a sci-fi book I can't remember the title of, aliens created a toilet when asked by the humans. Looked like a regular toilet, but was perfectly frictionless. The author spent quite a bit of time describing the magic of poop sliding, with...
[23:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Centrifugal Water Closet - 06How to Poop in Space - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:43] <exec> 08└─since you only need a little centripetal acceleration to make Mr Hanky go in the right direction.
[23:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:The easy solution... - 06How to Poop in Space - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:49] <exec> 08└─Been there, had the surgery.
[23:11:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:23] <exec> 08└─Tons of delivery options where I live in Canada. ranging from 8 in the morning till 11 at night 7 days a week. 0 need to step inside a grocery store.
[23:11:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Foolishness - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:24] <exec> 08└─Good for you but for the rest of us in small town in the middle of fucking nowhere we get what I have already stated.
[23:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Bricks and mortar can't compete - 06Warren Buffett Drops Walmart -- Signals Death of Retail as we know it - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:11:41] <exec> 08└─By the time Wal-Mart built all the transgender washrooms required by Obama's LGBT regulations, they had to mark up prices so much they just can't compete with Amazon. Buffett agrees: men's room for men, ladies' room for women... that's the way God intended it to be.
[23:14:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Seed of the Borg - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:14:45] <exec> 08└─Resistance is futile (if 1 ohm)
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