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[00:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Informative) 02Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:08] <exec> 08└─This means that Australia plays a critical role in many other countries' space programs. Right now, about 40 space missions – including deep space planetary explorers, Mars rovers, solar observatories and astronomical space observatories – are routinely downlinking their data through radio dishe...
[00:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:09] <exec> 08└─If it is to open its own space agency, not only it will need a launching site closer to the Equator [...]
[00:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Not until earthbound problems fixed - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:12] <exec> 08└─1. More transgender bathrooms 2. Need better beer, and more 3. Hairy nosed wombats
[00:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Linatux [4602] (Score:1) 02Re:Love cheese and you love life - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:28] <exec> 08└─Don't need to 'conquer' them - https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[00:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:good - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 192 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:45] <exec> 08└─14.04 - Had no problems with Thunar. 16.04 - Thunar is crash happy when moving files around and renaming. Also see https://bugs.launchpad.net [launchpad.net]
[00:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Just look around you - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:58] <exec> 08└─That would be more air in the tires, so that perimeter does exceed diameter x 3.14159
[00:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Just look around you - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 269 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:00] <exec> 08└─However, using less air reduces the local radius of the tire. The circumference will remain constant while the average radius is reduced. Who said you wanted to drive on a round wheel (you never do anyway)? Problem solved, tire ruined, pi established (applepi, please).
[00:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:07] <exec> 08└─I think that some of those examples of the "meaningless do" are cases where the use of "did" adds clarity. It's not useless because the use of "did" makes it clear that it is a question, not a statement.
[00:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:10] <exec> 08└─It's from the Original Greek: The word "mathematics" itself derives from the ancient Greek μάθημα (mathema), meaning "subject of instruction
[00:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:08:35] <exec> 08└─Typical, no the world is teetering on the brink due to greedy assholes causing lots of problems. People. Just. Like. You.
[00:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 31 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:00] <exec> 08└─It's Turing complete, isn't it?
[00:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03seeprime [5580] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:05] <exec> 08└─It's never the job a a legislative body to establish mathematical truth. It's an impossible task that these fools in Indiana should have avoided. Concerning ease of calculation, using 3.14 isn't hard to do by hand. It requires thinking, knowing how to carry over values, and paying attention. At work...
[00:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:15] <exec> 08└─From your link (emphasis mine): Though the claim about the Alabama state legislature is pure nonsense, it is similar to an event that happened more than a century ago. In 1897 the Indiana House of Representatives unanimously passed a measure (House Bill no. 246, introduced by Rep. Taylor I. Record)...
[00:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:17] <exec> 08└─Ah, I see now. The falseness in the claim is not just that the proposal took place in Alabama, but that it was based upon the Bible.
[00:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahh, quantum physics - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 742 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:17] <exec> 08└─More precisely, you have no clue on how to reconcile those things with your macroscopic experience of a world modeled as a mechanical item. The problem I have is, why cannot spooky action at a distance occur? because our models say so? then the models are wrong if it does. Because our intuition says...
[00:10:55] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 282 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:55] <exec> 08└─I was just going to say: Nuclear Power is just incompatible with our current level of business regulation. We're not responsible enough to handle it on the money side - we've got the technical chops, we make it work in the military, but the free market can't handle the ROI horizon.
[00:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Misleading title - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:45] <exec> 08└─Air is a pretty good insulating blanket [...] My computer uses it to keep the CPU warm.
[00:13:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I felt a great disturbance in the Force - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:13:43] <exec> 08└─...as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. Doubleplusungood!
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[01:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:14] <exec> 08└─> Bramble Cay, the northernmost point in Australia, lies at about 9 degrees south latitude. As long as the neighbors' capital downrange doesn't mind getting hit by the occasional stowaway drop bear, it's a great launching latitude.
[01:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:15] <exec> 08└─True, but my point still stands... Australia will still need tracking facilities (or services) located in northern hemisphere
[01:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Beer will fix everything. - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 258 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:18] <exec> 08└─If you improve the beer, then I guarantee you'll find multiple genders in the same bathroom (indeed, in the very same stall!). Moreover, people will become so chill, that their lowered productivity will allow the wombat's natural habitat to make a come back.
[01:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02it's always about the RIGHT microorganism - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:07:37] <exec> 08└─I ferment a lot of things. I regularly make sauerkraut, beer, and wine, and my girlfriend makes kimchi. It's still pretty amazing to me that sometimes you can make food better (and even still healthy) by just letting it get chewed on by something else for a while first. It's also pretty amazing how...
[01:08:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Sulla [5173] 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 217 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:29] <exec> 08└─I like that idea. Growing rice using a diluted runoff from mining operations waste ponds. Suck up the arsenic in the rice. Also posibility of finding what in rice causes this to occur and developing an organic filter.
[01:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:41] <exec> 08└─Allergies can develop, over expose to something and you can become allergic. Have some change in your body, such as the gut bacteria, and you can then develop reactions to gluten. The human body is complicated and overconfident people such as yourself never seem to learn even after a lifetime of cor...
[01:11:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Independence of Quality Control - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:14] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I found out that after I'd posted. So it makes a lot of sense that Toshiba should end up holding the bag...but somehow I still wish that the costs could be more directly laid at the foot of Westinghouse. And in particular of their C level executives.
[01:11:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02Re:The process worked - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:11:17] <exec> 08└─The idea that we just cannot build something because the contractors will be shady is ridiculous on its face. If that was true, we should all just stop striving and go back to running after gazelles on the African plains.
[01:11:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Murdoc [2518] (Score:2) 02Great summary, now I'm scared - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:11:21] <exec> 08└─So there you have it. The reason some geeks (me for example) oppose nuclear power has nothing to do with the technology, and absolutely everything to do with the morons who run it. Businessmen being in charge of this technology means it will never achieve its potential and that it will always be dan...
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[02:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02inb4 caveats - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:10] <exec> 08└─Sunday morning 4:30AM, lowest demand, gas backup, storage, intermittence ... blah blah blah. It's pretty impressive by US renewable standards.
[02:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Phoenix666 and cmn3248: did you check those links? - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:11] <exec> 08└─The article you requested is only available for Bloomberg Professional Service subscribers.
[02:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Phoenix666 and cmn3248: did you check those lin - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:14] <exec> 08└─I think I just encountered a Bloomberg terminal link. Let's see what I did. Yup, I did the same shit. In the YouTube story.
[02:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:16] <exec> 08└─Imagine if you could suck the energy out of tornadoes to generate power. You kill tornadoes that do deadly damage, and you extract electrical power out of it.
[02:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02FTFU - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:18] <exec> 08└─Imagine if you could suck the energy out of politicians to generate power. You gently urge politicians that do nothing but spew hot air, and you extract electrical power out of it. was going to leave kill... but it didn't make much sense in the sentence...
[02:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:FTFU - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:20] <exec> 08└─Relevant [smbc-comics.com]
[02:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:31] <exec> 08└─So kind of reciprocal with the current arrangements?
[02:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Australia for space exploration - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:35] <exec> 08└─About the only thing the Aussie have for space exploration is a large uninhibited territory to catch falling debris, sorta like mini Russia, except that even Russia has more people than Australia.
[02:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02I would say no.. - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:37] <exec> 08└─We can't even launch our own broadband....
[02:08:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:59] <exec> 08└─Celiac disease is caused by leaky joints between the cells of the intestine. (I forget whether it's the large or the small intestine.) But, yes, it can be developed with age. It's also partially hereditary...e.g. my sister has celiac disease, but I don't, and neither did my grandfather, who died at...
[02:11:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:11:21] <exec> 08└─From the story, Westinghouse hired Shaw, a contractor in a free market. Presumably they contracted with this clown based on price, it certainly wasn't his qualifications and experience.
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[03:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Phoenix666 and cmn3248: did you check those lin - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:20] <exec> 08└─I got the link from the RSS feed and it worked for me, though I'm not a Bloomberg subscriber. Sorry for the trouble.
[03:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:24] <exec> 08└─You would have to extract crazy amounts of energy out of the atmosphere with crazy numbers of wind turbines though. I haven't read or heard anything about there being a wind shadow downwind from a wind farm, except very locally around a given turbine (why they position the individual turbines the wa...
[03:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:17] <exec> 08└─Huh, nice. I used to have to kill it every week or two before I moved to compton.
[03:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:20] <exec> 08└─Ditto. I ran Gnome for something like 15 years. Gnome3 and Unity were a double brick wall. Switched to XFCE, with LXDE on a couple older machines, and haven't looked back. Some of the alternatives in the thread sound interesting, though, so should be fun to try out on a rainy Saturday. I am glad for...
[03:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Super generic - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 892 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:50] <exec> 08└─Indeed. There's another term that comes to mind: Intentional fallacy [britannica.com]. In literature, that is often used to refer to the apparent "fallacy" that we can only judge a work by its author's intentions, rather than recognizing how a work can accumulate meaning based on its audience recept...
[03:09:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 1343 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:39] <exec> 08└─Since no trolls ever existed before the intarweb tubes, the point could have been to make it easier to do math problems which involve PI. That would be motivated by the fact that significantly fewer students had access to electronic hand held scientific calculators in 1897 when this bill was introdu...
[03:09:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 2048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:42] <exec> 08└─I do think that "alternative fact" meme has been spun out into absurdity by people on a tear. When they said it originally, I understood it to mean "other facts that tell a different story than what your narrative is pushing." As in, if there are 10 studies on the effect of sugar on human health, an...
[03:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:45] <exec> 08└─Yes but the discursive assault on climate science has whet their appetite to do more of the same. Any science or fact or finding can be discredited if it threatens the profits of the 1%.
[03:10:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:03] <exec> 08└─I can't imagine that much would have been "broken". Indiana has never been a really huge industrial state; it's mostly agriculture.
[03:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Limited help? - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:10:34] <exec> 08└─I hope it does work. They said they planted a half-dozen of those resistant hybrids here in Prospect Park, in Brooklyn. So I used their tree map to go find them, because I like to take my kids up to the park and teach them about wild edibles, and man those trees looked really sick and produced no ch...
[03:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Finnish nukular horror story - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:55] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olkiluoto_Nuclear_Power_Plant#Unit_3 [wikipedia.org] It's a new Finnish nuke plant built by the French Areva and to make an understatement there have been issues. To give scale of the trouble, the date of having a working plant has been postponed no less than 8 times fr...
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[04:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02JavaScript JavaScript JavaScript - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:09] <exec> 08└─Why is it always JavaScript?! In the paper, we propose a (cross-)browser fingerprinting based on many novel OS and hardware level features, e.g., these from graphics card, CPU, audio stack, and installed writing scripts. Specifically, because many of such OS and hardware level functions are exposed...
[04:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:JavaScript JavaScript JavaScript - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:10] <exec> 08└─these from graphics card, CPU, audio stack
[04:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:1) 02Well, I guess we can try standardizing hardware... - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 1212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:12] <exec> 08└─What VMs do people commonly use to run a browser, not that it wouldn't make too much a difference? You know, perhaps the macbook users are a step ahead as they have less hardware choices. Now you just need to uncouple your Apple hardware from your Apple ID without removing Apple's software. And then...
[04:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02I never visit a site with 2 different web browsers - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:07:15] <exec> 08└─I use Chrome. Vons.com and tdameritrade don't work with chrome for reasons. I use Firefox for both. Not like you're going to find me on match.com with both browsers, won't happen. For all I know vons and td ameritrade fixed their websites a couple years ago. I won't know, I haven't tried.
[04:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I never visit a site with 2 different web brows - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 296 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:17] <exec> 08└─It is the ad networks that help track everything together. Those little web bugs from indeed, linkedin, facebook, twitter, etc. Then the ad networks themselves have them. That they got it up to 99% accuracy does not surprise me. Heck most of the time just your IP and time of day alone is enough.
[04:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:43] <exec> 08└─Other nations capitalize on less meaningful happenstances. Oz might as well join in the fun, right?
[04:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:01] <exec> 08└─Not from those islands, but I once knew an Italian guy who told me that taleggio cheese had a specific phrase in Italian to describe its stench, something like "an Alpine soldier's boot after a long march." That about sums it up.
[04:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News! - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:05] <exec> 08└─I actually greatly enjoy my occasional spread of gorgonzola.
[04:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News! - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 628 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:07] <exec> 08└─I'm guessing you're at least partly joking, but I have to say that I've been most impressed over time with the varieties of blue cheeses when I've had an opportunity to sample them at restaurants. I know a few restaurants which have a very well-stocked "cheese cart," and on the rare occasions I splu...
[04:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The greatest question with cheese... - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:12] <exec> 08└─Lactose intolerance is real!
[04:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''compositing is overrated'' - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:24] <exec> 08└─While I agree, Ken Starks showed some Windoze guys Compiz [blogspot.com] and it got them to switch to Linux. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [fossforce.com] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[04:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:30] <exec> 08└─Same here: ran gnome since 1999-2000 Using xfce and i3 now due to bloat. I need speed and resources more than eye candy.
[04:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02XFCE vs Xfce - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 572 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:08:34] <exec> 08└─Initially, this desktop environment used the X-Forms toolkit and was called X-Forms Common Environment. Almost immediately, the developer dropped X-Forms and switched to GTK+. Xfce is no longer an initialism and there's no reason to capitalize the whole thing. . When I think of "upgrade-treadmill" (...
[04:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:57] <exec> 08└─Which is plural because it's actually the term for the set of procedures, operations, and properties that can be considered "mathematical".
[04:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Why maths not math? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:06] <exec> 08└─Lots of success so maybe the idea that there was really only one mathematic caught on in the US?
[04:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Steven Wolfram - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 488 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:09:08] <exec> 08└─Late to this discussion (worked a double shift today), I'm amazed that no one has mentioned Wolfram' book A New Kind of Science, https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] where he describes the simple programs that lead to many of the complex shapes found in...
[04:09:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:20] <exec> 08└─Arsenic also used to be used in large quantities to preserve wood. Wooden playgrounds from the 1990s and earlier contain significant arsenic in the soil that the children play in. At least Florida banned it around 2000, not sure about the timing in the rest of the world.
[04:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:23] <exec> 08└─>wouldn't the rice eventually have sucked up all of the mercury and arsenic from the soil? Not if the rice paddy is located within 800 miles of a coal fired power plant.
[04:09:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:What about cultures with high rice diets? - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:28] <exec> 08└─Where in southeast Asia is not near a coal fired power plant? Florida receives more mercury from Mexico's power plants than from the local ones that run better (but still far from perfect) scrubbers.
[04:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:06] <exec> 08└─I wish some version of this was included in papers instead of (or at least in addition to) p-values.
[04:11:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:11:53] <exec> 08└─According to market theory, capital costs (barriers to entry) do not exist.
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[05:07:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:07] <exec> 08└─I don't have a problem with duplicating information. I wonder why they think this is a Trump thing. The Tired article is fuzzy on timing but notes the first of the login portals appeared in August. If they were actually worried about Trump they would have sucked down everything in Nov 16. Of course...
[05:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More mundane stuff like... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:09] <exec> 08└─US Census TIGER datasets and shape files. At the very least, you can get them simply to use them for real geocoding and querying, app development, etc. maybe even biggish data querying and analysis, given some of the socioeconomic data in the datasets..
[05:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More mundane stuff like... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:11] <exec> 08└─... or looking at how some US state and local legislative districts have been manipulated over the last few years
[05:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Good - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:13] <exec> 08└─I have noticed a lot of climate data has been freely available relative to other research fields. They are definitely above average in that. However, I was trying to get climate data/code awhile back and kept coming across login/password obstacles (besides high level stuff without even uncertainty e...
[05:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:15] <exec> 08└─Also, how much of this is data products rather than the data. If we have the data and code we can recreate all these data products. That is the key stuff.
[05:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Heh, javascript is disabled by default - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:07:27] <exec> 08└─Run scriptblock, maybe half the sites that don't work right get temporary javascript permissions.
[05:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Paywalls - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:38] <exec> 08└─I remember an incident where, after a certain number of pagehits from an IP address, you'd get cut off. That was with U.S. News & World Report. [soylentnews.org] Anybody have a list started of the tight-assed sites? ...especially the ones that -appear- to be normal--then KABOOM. -- OriginalOwner_ [s...
[05:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:44] <exec> 08└─I also didn't see anything like the wind farms in the upper midwest when I drove through Tornado Alley last summer; but I have no idea if that's a result of policy or because wind maps discourage wind farms there.
[05:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:07:54] <exec> 08└─Usually only people in tents get hit by drop bears, so shouldn't be too much of a problem. On the other hand, falling from sufficient height *would* make them a bit less accurate.
[05:09:42] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03VLM [445] 02Not really a GF story - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 4048 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:09:42] <exec> 08└─Fundamentally its a story about rice, not a story about GF eating. My son has the medically diagnosed celiac disease and the first few months were rather interesting but in practice a decade later it just doesn't matter much. We mostly end up eating paleo-ish which means pretty much no grains for tw...
[05:12:06] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03schad [2398] 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 2847 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:06] <exec> 08└─I know that we tend to be engineers on this site, and so we look on them fondly, but "the CEO is an engineer!" is not exactly a recipe for success or moral clarity. I mean, many (most?) pharma companies are either run by an M.D. or have one very far up in the food chain. But you wouldn't exactly hol...
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[06:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Obvious Terror Suspect - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:06] <exec> 08└─Well he was a scientist, and scientists are responsible for terrorism. They invented spears, pikes, swords, gunpowder, guns, cannons, bombs and nukes. Terrorists have used spears, pikes, swords, gunpowder, guns, cannons, and bombs, and want nukes. The connection and conclusion is obvious. Scientists...
[06:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:08] <exec> 08└─Land of the (busted) home(loan), free of the brave.
[06:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More mundane stuff like... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:18] <exec> 08└─Those datasets are amazing. But be careful using them. They have 'holes' and anomalies in them. You do not know about them until you use them. For example the state boundaries may cross at points or have gaps of up to 1-2 feet between them. ZIP code is mostly correct. City outlines are usually out o...
[06:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02yep, the opinions should be deleted - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:21] <exec> 08└─Keep the raw sensor data, along with sensor specifications and calibration data. Junk anything derived from that, since keeping it around would imply endorsement of the picking and choosing of data points and worse.
[06:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:yep, the opinions should be deleted - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:24] <exec> 08└─I'd say keep both in an ideal world, but make the raw data + code a priority
[06:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02USA not the whole of the 'free world'... - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:26] <exec> 08└─This was no real surprise to many, as per previous news of scientists backing up data. What's news, and a surprise to some, is that the scientists were not paranoids, and were correct. In view of Trump's cabinet picks, the writing's been on the wall for me, for some time now.
[06:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Other DBs to grab - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:28] <exec> 08└─So Soylentils, are there any US .gov public databases that you don't want to see disappear?
[06:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:JavaScript JavaScript JavaScript - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:38] <exec> 08└─Exact spacing of rendered web fonts (TTF, WOFF, etc.) can affect word wrapping and thereby cause element height to hit breakpoints.
[06:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02WebGL - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:44] <exec> 08└─The big vulnerability here is WebGL. Who even needs that for anything but games? So turn off javascript globally and turn of WebGL. That way when you re-enable javascript on specific sites, they still won't have access to WebGL.
[06:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WebGL - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:46] <exec> 08└─There's also that video chat protocol and geolocation protocol and ... We really need to bring control of the browser back to the user, just as free Unix freed us from M$ domination.
[06:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:WebGL - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:48] <exec> 08└─just as free Unix freed us from M$ domination Yep free as in www.apple.com (iOS/BSD) and www.google.com (android/linux). Two companies that almost exclusively use unix/linux/bsd. They are the *very* definition of open right?
[06:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:18] <exec> 08└─Yes. But this is to demonstrate that the present time is as good as any others (i.e. it's not a "now or never" type of opportunity)
[06:08:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:20] <exec> 08└─I'd be so much happier if the Oz govt would subsidize battery research. The outback would be much better.
[06:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Australia for space exploration - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 189 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:25] <exec> 08└─The Russian monkeys started much earlier in their frozen lands than the British ones down-under, I think. Meanwhile, the civilized people here were beyond material, deep into the dreamtime.
[06:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 234 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:32] <exec> 08└─Math is also short for mathematics. It makes no sense to re-append the s at the end. It's a very strange practice to abbreviate a word by removing the letters in the middle of the word leaving you with that awkward th to s transition.
[06:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why maths not math? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:42] <exec> 08└─The big difference is that the folks in the UK have rationalized using the less convenient form by referring to it as a plural as there's more than one kind of math. Whereas in the US, we just chopped everything off after the th. The whole bit about including that extra s is just awkward. th and s a...
[06:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02correct - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:02] <exec> 08└─mod that guy up
[06:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03cykros [989] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:30] <exec> 08└─Considering that Soylent was built on the archaic unmaintained Slashcode by the sheer power of rebellion against the old site, I don't think anyone should be too surprised at its inability to really render well on mobile. It'd be nice, but getting it actually working well would almost be easier with...
[06:13:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Reziac [2489] (Score:2) 02Re:Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 287 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:13:01] <exec> 08└─Penicillin is close enough: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] "β-lactam antibiotics are analogues of d-alanyl-d-alanine—the terminal amino acid residues on the precursor NAM/NAG-peptide subunits of the nascent peptidoglycan layer. "
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[07:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:12] <exec> 08└─This is the first time I've heard of a border being an issue, but when visiting another company corporate security may demand you unlock your mobile/laptop for inspection upon leaving. As this is an IP issue, our policy is to surrender the encrypted device and we will recover your work from backups....
[07:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03coolgopher [1157] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:14] <exec> 08└─I'd like to introduce you to your new friend, Mr Rubber Hose...
[07:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 413 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:16] <exec> 08└─I never visited a repressive regime which would demand me to unlock my laptop or phone (or maybe I just wasn't aware and got lucky), but I know some colleagues who went to the US. Some would send the key of sensitive partitions to a colleague in advance, delete their own copy, and are therefore inca...
[07:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:18] <exec> 08└─These days, more like land of the craven, home of the slave.
[07:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:20] <exec> 08└─Yup, assumption of guilt and expectation that interrogation will reveal all hidden information. I overheard a border agent discussing this, and the reply to "what if they're innocent" was "innocent people don't end up in that situation." This is the biggest problem around. "Innocent people don't run...
[07:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02not a travel ban - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:22] <exec> 08└─Customs are known for heavy handed arbitrary shit and searching electronic devices long before Trump talked about a travel ban. https://www.eff.org [eff.org]
[07:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:25] <exec> 08└─Which part of "no" could he not pronounce The guy is an American citizen. He has an absolute right of re-entry. They might annoy him for a few hours, but they cannot deny him entry into the country. This was the moment to make a stand. Turning over the password to his phone to a bunch of untrustwort...
[07:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:34] <exec> 08└─What I don't understand is the lack of duplication in the first place. Some of this data has major bearing on government policy, yet the data sets are often, apparently, sitting on one, probably under-funder government (or worse, government-funded-by-time-limited-grant) department or research group....
[07:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03canopic jug [3949] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Torrent - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:45] <exec> 08└─Depending on the size of the raw data, it might be effective to torrent it, especially since the goal is to ensure availability and integrity. Torrents are good at both even in the face of active opposition. That's why big business and the politicians they own have such a hardon for crushing any and...
[07:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Trump? August? - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:47] <exec> 08└─the Trump administration might want to disappear this data down a memory hole.
[07:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Trump? August? - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:49] <exec> 08└─Who was president in August?
[07:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:JavaScript JavaScript JavaScript - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:01] <exec> 08└─List of installed fonts?
[07:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Heh, javascript is disabled by default - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:08:07] <exec> 08└─And then they identify you while you are fiddling around trying to figure out which site to enable to get the page to work.
[07:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02salt bread - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:09:10] <exec> 08└─You might as well make salt-rising bread then. It uses hydrogen-producing bacteria instead of yeast. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.popsci.com [popsci.com] http://saltrisingbread.net
[07:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What about cultures with high rice diets? - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:10:25] <exec> 08└─Whatever it is, rice from the USA tends to have higher arsenic than rice from India or Thailand: http://www.consumerreports.org [consumerreports.org] The exception is the California Basma...
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[07:10:58] <exec> 08└─Seems to be "pick one" nowadays ;).
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[08:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:06] <exec> 08└─After global warming was clearly debunked by our cold winter here, now we have evidence that pollution is also much worse in those parts never touched by any human before. I'm curious how the tree-huggers will try to blame that on us now.
[08:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious Terror Suspect - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 484 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:15] <exec> 08└─And by cutting budget for schools and universities, it can be ensured that a) There won't be any domestic terr- ahm... science b) You will be able to identify a potential terr- ahm... foreigner by his ability to speak two coherent sentences in a row c) "we" and "them" can benefit from the general bi...
[08:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 2943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:18] <exec> 08└─You know, I've been thinking a lot about the "Star-Spangled Banner" in recent weeks. Actually, I was thinking about it during Trump's inauguration, because there was a lot of debate/criticism of musicians who participated, including Jackie Evancho, who ended up singing the national anthem. Personall...
[08:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not a travel ban - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:26] <exec> 08└─True, but such actions as Trumps EO ramp up the crazy as border agents feel its a free for all because they're backed by the president. His tweets affect the stock market, foreign relations, and it would be folly to think it doesn't affects LEOs.
[08:09:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:24] <exec> 08└─apropos visual wizardry (XFCE + comp!z): http://paste.opensuse.org [opensuse.org]
[08:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03fido_dogstoyevsky [131] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:52] <exec> 08└─How many maths have you encountered this week?
[08:10:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:32] <exec> 08└─It's not caused by leaky joints. It's caused by an autoimmune reaction to gluten.
[08:10:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:33] <exec> 08└─"very small number," No, it's not a very small number. About 1% of the USA population has Celiac disease. Another 1-2% have other wheat or gluten allergies/intolerances. When you add in family memers who have to avoid gluten as well to avoid cross-contamination of their loved one's diets, you're tal...
[08:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 635 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:12:21] <exec> 08└─ok, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't understand how I'm wrong. it's been more than ten years since I learned about special relativity, and I no longer remember how to define a reference system. the relativistic distance between these two events: "star emits photon" and "observer sees photon". Is it time...
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[09:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:18] <exec> 08└─I'm curious how the tree-huggers will try to blame that on us now.
[09:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:19] <exec> 08└─"Us" was meant as a parody of "'They' are taking 'our'' jobs" or "'Them' elites are destroying 'our' country", as the 'common folks' allegedly ignored by "the ruling class". More realistic, the 'Us' I feel part of would currently be those with some sense of irony and some karma to risk on some parod...
[09:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Tipping points - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 1215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:22] <exec> 08└─One has to wonder when a tipping point is reached and an ecosystem collapses. The ozone hole is very slowly recovering because an international agreement reduced the chemicals destroying the ozone layer. But, it has been a real question whether we were in time to prevent a collapse, especially with...
[09:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:33] <exec> 08└─Have you ever had liked (most of) the people of a country but profoundly dislike the country (as a political entity)?
[09:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:35] <exec> 08└─You Americans are obsessed with symbolism. That stuff isn't real. It just a bunch of words penned by a pompous ass, as are all national anthems.
[09:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 357 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:40] <exec> 08└─The problem with the "I cannot unlock my device" defence is they WILL take offence and make your life unpleasant. The correct solution is having an unlock key that ONLY unlocks a benign instance of the phone. But I am not sure how that would work with the hardware copying device that they seem to be...
[09:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:42] <exec> 08└─What about my unpublished manuscripts stored on my encrypted device? Am I just supposed to turn them over to some corporate drone who suspects I snooped their network? If you are that worried about it, don't let the phone enter the premises.
[09:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 620 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:44] <exec> 08└─Why do they have to suspect you of anything? Today, just existing and having an encrypted device is enough, after all you wouldn't encrypt anything legal you terrorist you. Hell, having a device is enough, if you balk at them for wanting to inspect it you must be hiding something. Everyone is a subv...
[09:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:not a travel ban - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:50] <exec> 08└─Well he is large enough he may actually affect things in Low Earth Orbit.... Ta-zing! I'll be here all week!
[09:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:53] <exec> 08└─Before we can speak up for others we must first speak up for ourselves.
[09:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:55] <exec> 08└─Sorry in advance if these thought are stupid; I'm just brainstorming .... -- Curious Thought 1 -- Is it not possible to have a smart phone with separate profiles/partitions? Profile one could be named PRIVATE, and profile two could be named PUBLIC. When you boot the phone it always boots into PUBLIC...
[09:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 579 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:58] <exec> 08└─What bothers me the most about this situation is the fact that the headline and the story go out of their way to assure us that Mr. Bikkannavar is American born. The unspoken corollary is that it would be perfectly fine to seize, search, and copy electronics at the border for non-natives. When we do...
[09:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:09] <exec> 08└─One data store. "We can rely on our department's back up processes". Sad. Delusional.
[09:09:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:09:08] <exec> 08└─On the other hand, falling from sufficient height *would* make them a bit less accurate.
[09:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:27] <exec> 08└─OK, so now we know where the mathema comes from. But what is the origin of the tics?
[09:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:29] <exec> 08└─Nervous reflex, no doubt. Those ὁι μαθηματικὸι tend to be a twitchy lot!
[09:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why maths not math? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:10:42] <exec> 08└─The whole bit about including that extra s is just awkward. th and s are not sounds that we usually put next to each other in English.
[09:14:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03bd [2773] (Score:2) 02Crackpot? - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:14:08] <exec> 08└─The guy doing the hypertension claims seems a bit too high on the crackpot scale for my taste. The paper was incoherent, for any claims about astronaut heart problems he only cited himself and the paper lacked novelty (he says basically the same stuff in 10 publications!) even if it were true. How d...
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[10:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:19] <exec> 08└─More realistic, the 'Us' I feel part of would currently be those with some sense of irony
[10:07:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 2943 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:31] <exec> 08└─You know, I've been thinking a lot about the "Star-Spangled Banner" in recent weeks. Actually, I was thinking about it during Trump's inauguration, because there was a lot of debate/criticism of musicians who participated, including Jackie Evancho, who ended up singing the national anthem. Personall...
[10:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:07:47] <exec> 08└─They can, however, make his life hell. And I'm sure they can hold him for extended periods. The police can hold you for up to 24 hours before they have to charge you with a crime or release you. They can apply to hold you for up to 36 or 96 hours if you're suspected of a serious crime, eg murder. Yo...
[10:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:00] <exec> 08└─With one MRI scanner you can generate gigabytes of raw data in seconds. This is normally processed down to a few kb of images and the raw data tossed. You do not want to force everyone to archive the raw data for all federal-funded studies despite how useful it may seem.
[10:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Trump? August? - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:14] <exec> 08└─Starting in August, access to Goddard Earth Science Data required a login. Who was president in August?
[10:08:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Heh, javascript is disabled by default - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:30] <exec> 08└─Maybe, maybe not. That's a lot better than 'definitely'.
[10:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Wootery [2341] (Score:2) 02Bad Summary - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:35] <exec> 08└─Not even a mention of WebGL, the technology behind most of the new developments. uses OS and hardware-level features really doesn't cut it. SN is intended for techies. The entire blockquote tells me nothing I didn't gather from the headline.
[10:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Re:Phoenix666 and cmn3248: did you check those lin - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:08:48] <exec> 08└─Just for statistics, I got the same response as you. As they pontificate a lot on in business seminars... you don't get another chance to make a first impression. My first impression of Bloomberg is yet another site that does not work.
[10:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:good - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:00] <exec> 08└─Same experience here. 16.04 crashes when drag/dropping files from the Desktop to a folder. Not that it's xfce, but it also hangs on shutdown some of the time forcing a hard stop.
[10:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:29] <exec> 08└─It's a very strange practice to abbreviate a word by removing the letters in the middle of the word You mean, like abbreviating "cannot" as "can't", omitting "no" in the middle?
[10:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Math touches everything around us - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:36] <exec> 08└─*minds
[10:11:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03EETech1 [957] (Score:1) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:11:33] <exec> 08└─Looks great on Opera on mobile. Just enable text wrap, and force zoom.
[10:12:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 404 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:12:47] <exec> 08└─A car with engine type C can go up to 50 mph. A car with engine type Q can go up to 70 mph. Possibly there could be cars that go to 100 mph, but we don't know an engine that does this. We observed a car going faster than 50mph, but not faster than 70 mph. That is strong evidence that this car is not...
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[11:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:06] <exec> 08└─The government *is* the threat - either intentionally by going 1984, or unintentionally by not securing their servers properly or "losing" files containing sensitive information about their citizens on a regular basis.
[11:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03isostatic [365] (Score:2) 02Why James Webb - 06NASA to Continue Funding Private Spaceflight, Considers Sixth Hubble Upgrade Mission - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:13] <exec> 08└─Hubble was a renowned astronomer. Webb ran Nasa. Why not name it after someone like Tombaugh (if it has to be an american)?
[11:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 845 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:24] <exec> 08└─Since there are no known natural sources [nj.gov] of PCB, I'm certain humanity is to be blamed. Just as I'm certain that androgenic global warming is a real threat. Not sure if I'm personally to be blamed (probably, since as a member of an industrial society I very likely buy and discard too many el...
[11:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:26] <exec> 08└─I did spot the ironic and sarcastic undertone of the post. However, it is written in such a way that it is more disturbing into the negative than a kick-in-the-ass "lets think about this, shall we" moment, to generate a positive feedback. If you want to use hyperbole, please go over the top. The lim...
[11:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 253 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:28] <exec> 08└─That's why we don't use the term "Global warming" any more, but the term "Climate change". The first assume that all places get warmer over time, the second doesn't. Example, while you claim a very cold winter, Iceland had its warmest winter in decades.
[11:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tipping points - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:31] <exec> 08└─An ecosystem (or any other biologic system) is best to be seen as a network between organisms and external physical/chemical factors (or related components at the biological scale). And network theory that here is better known from the IT world, also works in biological networks. A strong change in...
[11:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:00] <exec> 08└─The law does not require that you give border agents access to your data. They can ask for it and they can hassle you, but ultimately they can not require it without reasonable suspicion. However, lying to the border agents will get you into a whole lot of trouble.
[11:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I never visit a site with 2 different web brows - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:39] <exec> 08└─Well, those won't get any data from me as I won't even allow my browser to connect to them. If my browser doesn't even send any IP packets to them, there's no way they could find out anything about me, not even my IP address.
[11:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Ars Technica's Article is Better Anyway - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:00] <exec> 08└─I get through the paywall just fine. But is a pretty short blurb, just a couple of paragraphs. Ars has a better article: https://arstechnica.com [arstechnica.com]
[11:13:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Ahh, quantum physics - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 791 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:04] <exec> 08└─No meed to reconsile it with my macroscopic model (my models for nuclear physic and the electro-magnetical feel natural enough), nor my classical model. (Heck - my entire model of math is almost completly abstract) My problem with quantum is that I simply have no idea where to start (and stuff like...
[11:13:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:13:13] <exec> 08└─the relativistic distance between these two events: "star emits photon" and "observer sees photon". Is it time-like in the reference frame of the observer? Or distance like? Or both?
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[12:07:14] <exec> 08└─And foreign state actors or common criminals are not threats as well?
[12:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:15] <exec> 08└─At this point, I don't think they're as much of a threat. They have far less ability to influence things based on their hacking in the short term. Longer term, data exfiltration has an economic impact to companies, but short term, the privacy nightmare going on has the ability to go very East German...
[12:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:17] <exec> 08└─was commenting on a work-from-home article the other day, which was appropos for me, since i was in the middle of lobbying my boss to do the same... after being put off for a meeting for almost 2 weeks, said, 'fuck it', looked in the ads on a friday morning before work, miraculously found one in my...
[12:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:19] <exec> 08└─Yep. I was at a company talking wage rollbacks, so I looked for another job, and they offered me a raise. You really need to look out for yourself.
[12:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:40] <exec> 08└─Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure, which level of hyperbole is most efficient, as a reader I usually prefer subtlety. And, as I wrote before, I don't mind too much losing a bit karma by those not getting it.
[12:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:07:42] <exec> 08└─To stay in character: Dat's dem weaslewording lefties right there. Saying something, and when proven wrong they say something different and claim they meant that all along! More serious: I never considered it a change of terms, for me both terms are used in parallel. I don't think it helps to abando...
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[12:07:46] <exec> 08└─Agreed, on the grand scale of the earth, all of this is futility. The earth as a whole is agnostic and has recovered from a lot of damage before. The question that lies in the air is that we, humans, at least some of us, are capable of reasoning our place in the ecosystem. Therefore, it is suggested...
[12:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03opinionated_science [4031] (Score:2) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:17] <exec> 08└─Google does allow that on all phones - "guest mode". However (I tried it), you would need to be careful to ensure it didn't revert to the "owner" lock screen (or something else). And then again, you might meet a border fella that knew what "guest mode" was....
[12:08:18] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03charon [5660] 02The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 579 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:08:18] <exec> 08└─What bothers me the most about this situation is the fact that the headline and the story go out of their way to assure us that Mr. Bikkannavar is American born. The unspoken corollary is that it would be perfectly fine to seize, search, and copy electronics at the border for non-natives. When we do...
[12:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03aclarke [2049] (Score:2) 02Re:The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:20] <exec> 08└─As a Canadian, this point has always grated me about American politics and laws. It's somehow worse if it happens to an American, but OK if it happens to someone else. We, as humans, should be concerned about "human" rights, not the rights of our own particular little group of people. I work for an...
[12:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:yep, the opinions should be deleted - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 679 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:39] <exec> 08└─Not possible in many cases. Raw datasets can be huge. It is simply prohibitively expensive to store. This will always be the case. If I have a thermocouple I can sample it at many different rates. But I will pick _a_ rate. At that rate I will send signals back. Your first level of filtration is the...
[12:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Caching web proxies - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:09:08] <exec> 08└─Let's say your ISP installs a caching web proxy (like in ye olde days of 15 years ago to speed up the internet), would these methods fail?
[12:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 373 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:09:40] <exec> 08└─> As long as the neighbors' capital downrange doesn't mind [...] Port Moresby is almost directly to the east, isn't it. Well, PNG was part of Australia until 1975; it serve the Australian Space Agency the way Kazakhstan serves Roscosmos. Manus Island is only 2 degrees south of the equator and there'...
[12:10:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 565 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:06] <exec> 08└─I had the same opinion as you, until I had a visit to France (they keep the best quality cheeses for themselves, export the poorer quality) and tried some. Yes they smell strong, but you can easily recognise the many flavours if you really taste it (don't "chow it down"). In that way it becomes an e...
[12:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:10:35] <exec> 08└─I also switched to Xfce at the time Gnome became too bulky. And the interface has stayed mostly the same since, which is imho a good thing.
[12:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:09] <exec> 08└─Isn't pdf basically compressed postscript?
[12:12:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 639 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:12:20] <exec> 08└─Depends on the PDF standard. There are a bunch of ISO standards for PDFs and several of them do not permit JavaScript. Without that, no, it's intentionally not a Turing-complete language (printing time proportional to file size was a design goal for PDF, so it has no complex flow control structures...
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[13:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No different from selecting fertilized eggs - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:12] <exec> 08└─What is the difference? If you get enough fertilized eggs one will have the problem fixed via mutation anyway, "gene editing" is just treating the cells with toxic crap to speed this up.
[13:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 471 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:24] <exec> 08└─meant to say in the wrap up, that is PRECISELY why we have what is called 'structural unemployment' baked into the system (minimum of 5%), so that we do not EVER have full employment such that it gives the workers bargaining power... BESIDES the bullshit unemployment figures which are TOTALLY gamed,...
[13:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 599 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:26] <exec> 08└─I have been waiting my entire career for all of us to finally apply that remedy on the t-shirt to the PHB's and politicians: "Go away, or I will replace you with a very small shellscript." I can tell you we could safely replace every single human in the banking sector alone with such and no one woul...
[13:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 882 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:28] <exec> 08└─The hackers are winning because they know how to write code. Look at the massive efforts to "secure" stuff (an impossible goal). They are based around compliance. Take PCI for example (the payment card "security" standard). It was in place well before Target was hacked to the tune of 100 million or...
[13:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03cpghost [4591] (Score:1) 02It's the (stupid) management, stupid! - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1054 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:30] <exec> 08└─As someone working in IT security, all I can say is that it ultimately boils down to the Man's mistakes and general greed, i.e. bean counters trying to save money when it comes to securing IT infrastructure and putting in sane security procedures and protocols in the organization. Because, hey, secu...
[13:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:11] <exec> 08└─Now... now... don't be too harsh on them US-ians. After all, they don't have that much history to symbolize.
[13:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 216 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:12] <exec> 08└─It has a few choice words about the British and Canadians: Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution! No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
[13:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:20] <exec> 08└─> [...] just existing and having an encrypted device is enough [...] The contents of an encrypted area, ideally, look just like random data. But any data could be random. So no matter what the device contains, we can't be sure it isn't encrypted.
[13:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:30] <exec> 08└─If it were me I would have refused. He was in the right here and the border officer was abusing his authority. Sitting in a little room for 24 hours would be worth it, although nothing would likely to be done to the officer responsible unfortunately. This is why you don't want your police state to g...
[13:08:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03number6 [1831] (Score:2) 02more specifically... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:35] <exec> 08└─my thought #1 was meant to overcome such a situation; as the phone boots, it ALWAYS boots with the same-looking screen, there is no such thing as guest screens and other screens. The boot process and display take X amount of time (X can be user-set, let's say 15 seconds); during this fifteen second...
[13:08:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 435 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:39] <exec> 08└─um, perhaps you've heard of a teeny, tiny, eensy, weensy, trifling concept called 'american exceptionalism' ? ? ? BY DEFINITION, Amerika is ALL that is good and great, all the rest of you are shit on a shingle... end of discussion (yes, OF COURSE that is pathological psychopathy, but we have the big...
[13:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:42] <exec> 08└─I've already canceled a vacation there (Florida) since the ridiculous "travel ban", and will not be doing planned motorcycle trips in the US this summer either. There are lots of places to explore in Canada, so that'll be the top of my list rather than Vermont, New York, etc.
[13:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 650 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:09:47] <exec> 08└─Perhaps then they will relent eventually through pure economics. Those areas are rather poor, and cannot make any more money from ranching and farming than they already do. Lease income from wind turbine sites would be a welcome second income to those people. It already is for many of their counterp...
[13:13:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 457 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:13:45] <exec> 08└─There is a bait and switch in this reasoning. Strong evidence against engine C does not correspond to strong evidence for engine Q, in this case it is weak evidence for engine Q. Also, engine C was already ruled out long ago for other reasons, so is just a strawman. These experiments do not severely...
[13:14:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Engineers - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:14:59] <exec> 08└─Scientists and engineers have to be in charge of the robots and skilled tradesmen, tradespeople, building reactors, managerial or business or political interference will result in explosions, doubling of the price, or both. Remember Challenger.
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[14:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No different from selecting fertilized eggs - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:19] <exec> 08└─With gene editing you are not limited to simple changes like mutations. It's like suggesting that programmers could replace adding new code to a program be simply copying the program over and over again, until, due to random bit flips or other copying errors, code with the new functionality appears....
[14:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:No different from selecting fertilized eggs - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 664 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:21] <exec> 08└─> [...] due to random bit flips or other copying errors, code with the new functionality appears. Something like that, I gather, is being tried: By mimicking penguin behaviour in a testing system which seeks the safest ways to arrange code instead of shoals of fish, it becomes possible to slowly ze...
[14:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No different from selecting fertilized eggs - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:23] <exec> 08└─When the human female spawns she releases up to a billion eggs, which are promptly fertilised by the male's milt. Inducing the needed mutations and selecting for viable offspring is then a trivial matter. It's called the infinite monkey theory but it works with all primates.
[14:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:No different from selecting fertilized eggs - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 649 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:25] <exec> 08└─The difference is alteration of DNA on purpose, and making changes previously not encountered by evolution (cut & paste type baloney). And, doing so without in depth knowledge and understanding of what is really going to happen now, 10 years from now or 10 generations from now. Shit, clones don't ev...
[14:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:28] <exec> 08└─That taboo has been in place partly because of fears that mistakes could inadvertently create new diseases, which could then become a permanent part of the human gene pool.
[14:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02The priests have spoken. - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 346 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:30] <exec> 08└─But does anyone care? Does this group wield political power with which to enforce what even they describe as a 'taboo?' If so, on what constitutional basis? In my opinion it's absolutely disgraceful to cloak yourself in the name of science while performing the role of a priesthood. That's sacrilegio...
[14:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:41] <exec> 08└─Not to say that they aren’t, but your country’s own government (whichever country that might be) has plenty more power to ruin your life than any foreign state actor or criminal if it were so inclined. Going 1984 is a frightful prospect indeed.
[14:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1883 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:48] <exec> 08└─When it comes to Target I would bet that they were PCI DSS [pcisecuritystandards.org] compliant. When one reads about what happened [zdnet.com] it becomes clear that being PCI DSS compliant doesn't stop this type of attack. When you hop from HVAC system to servers to PoS terminals and grab the credi...
[14:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 427 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:51] <exec> 08└─It's number 2. PCI compliance is a minimum checklist sort of a thing, the main purpose is to shield you from liability when you get pwned, not to prevent the pwning. Computer security was awful when I started in the 80s but it's just gotten even more awful every year. At this point so much of our ba...
[14:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 229 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:53] <exec> 08└─You've got to be on all kinds of terrible drugs if you believe computer security is worse now than in the 80's. Sure, there are a lot more hackers and penetrations, but they would have had a hell of a lot easier time in the 80's.
[14:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:55] <exec> 08└─Hardware was not pwned from the factory in the 80s. Hardware was not locked against the ostensible owner in the 80s. Every organization ending in .com or .gov was not obsessed with monitoring you 24/7 in the 80s. Yeah, it's worse. I'd go so far as to say it is now impossible to build a trusted compu...
[14:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:18] <exec> 08└─Just as I'm certain that androgenic global warming is a real threat.
[14:08:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:56] <exec> 08└─If it were me I would have refused.
[14:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:57] <exec> 08└─Yeah, that was my reaction. He was tested and he failed. If I was his boss he'd be out of work. Not only did he give the phone over to unauthorized parties, he then failed to report the incident to the relevant officials at NASA, and it only came to light because he whined on facebook. That's absolu...
[14:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03cpghost [4591] (Score:1) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:04] <exec> 08└─If you lose sight of your smartphone for just a couple of seconds at a border control, the usual Best Practice is: don't use it anymore AT ALL, and consider that is has been physically tampered with. I.e. consider that someone in a backroom has replaced some chips with tailored components. It happen...
[14:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Didn't tell his boss or the IT department? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:09:10] <exec> 08└─According to the article, Bikkannavar kept the story to himself for days until he decided to share in a Facebook post with friends.
[14:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Reading is for Losers - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:12] <exec> 08└─Also according to the article: When it was returned he immediately turned it off because he knew he had to take it straight to the IT department at JPL. Once he arrived in Los Angeles, he went to NASA and told his superiors what had happened.
[14:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:10:21] <exec> 08└─I'm hoping that the strict economics take over. According to Google, the average (onshore) wind turbine generates 6M kWh/year in electricity. Or, roughly, $720K/year (at 12 cents/kWh). They seem to cost $3-4M. So if you have ~5-10 acres, a friendly local policy, and a buyer (or grid-tie system), the...
[14:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: It's always about the RIGHT microorganism - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:11:11] <exec> 08└─It's still pretty amazing to me that sometimes you can make food better (and even still healthy) by just letting it get chewed on by something else for a while first.
[14:12:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Super generic - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:12] <exec> 08└─I don't disagree with any of that but propose a related alternative that in the OPs culture that LARPing is lower social tier than professional actors. So people "play minecraft" they don't "go minecrafting" because they're into the LARPing nature of playing and playing minecraft. Yet coal miners "m...
[14:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03gidds [589] (Score:2) 02Re: Why maths not math? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:18] <exec> 08└─'Maths', because a 'math' is a Roman Catholic thervithe, of course!
[14:12:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03sea [86] (Score:1) 02Re:Steven Wolfram - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 1142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:21] <exec> 08└─Wolfram's simple programs are interesting to a point, because they do indeed produce an enormous range of structures, but studying them isn't as productive because you don't get much understanding out of it. The whole point of Mathematics is understanding, hence the emphasis on proofs and derivation...
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[15:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:23] <exec> 08└─If it turns out that the Em drive actually doesn't work (recall that the only measured results are, shall we say, less than convincing), what does that say about McCullough's model?
[15:07:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:58] <exec> 08└─A growing percentage of people are simply unemployable. As automation improves and spreads the capability bar rises.
[15:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03ledow [5567] (Score:2) 02Re:off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 851 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:00] <exec> 08└─Yep. That's how you find out your value. You look around, see who else would want you, what they'd give you and then whether the place you're at can give you more. Not just in terms of money, but "power", hours, flexibility, benefits, working environment, treatment, commute etc. etc. Even when I'm i...
[15:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 824 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:04] <exec> 08└─I've worked a lot on online billing systems. It is completely true that PCI-DSS does not guarantee that your system is secure. However, it's also true that *not* following PCI-DSS pretty well guarantees that your system is insecure. I've encountered these kinds of things in the wild, mostly because...
[15:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 210 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:09] <exec> 08└─Security was worse, but less important stuff was networked in the 80s. They wouldn't have gotten millions of credit card numbers hacking Target in the era of mechanical "ka-chunk ka-chunk" credit card machines.
[15:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:11] <exec> 08└─My experience with PCIDSS and ISO9000 of all things, indicate that the small subset of things that work, can operate under PCI/DSS or ISO9000 although a lot of incredible dysfunction can also exist under those two. What does not exist under PCI/CSS or ISO9000 is one level of management telling the o...
[15:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's the (stupid) management, stupid! - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1611 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:14] <exec> 08└─I would add though that it also comes down to fundamental equipment and protocol design. The first generations of computers, from an abacus to the Enigma machines (and, ironically, the computers designed to break them,) never had designed security as the primary design function. (Yes, even Enigma -...
[15:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Fix a typo - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:16] <exec> 08└─Let me fix a typo for you Society is operating under the illusion that governments and corporations are taking rational choices about computer security, but the fact of the matter is that we're drowning under a sea of false positive, bad management, and a false belief in the power of technology to...
[15:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Somebody has the wrong impression - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:08:19] <exec> 08└─Truppi said we need to puncture the belief that government and industry are working together to solve online threats.
[15:09:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:03] <exec> 08└─Well that is true. But does long history = advancement/better? Let's see. China brags often about its 5,000 year history. But they have yet to grasp the basics of public sanitation or invent any kind of breakfast beyond rice gruel (zhou). India? Kinda the same on the first score. Then we have the Un...
[15:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 525 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:04] <exec> 08└─Yes, right? The French totally aren't stirred by La Marseillaise, or the Cubans by Guantanamera or the English by "God Save the Queen." Oh, wait. Crazy out-of-control obsession with symbolism is completely the province of Americans, and not like Turkey where insults to Turkishness are punishable by...
[15:09:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1090 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:23] <exec> 08└─Your post is important because everyone needs to wake up and understand this dystopian nightmare is where we already are. The NSA spies on you in your home via your computers and phones every moment of every day. The government puts up license plate scanners and cameras with facial recognition in mo...
[15:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 437 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:25] <exec> 08└─This was a US citizen with a NASA issued phone. There was no cause for him to be detained or searched. CPB claims they do not discriminate based on gender, race, or religion. Bullshit. Your government, at least in words does not agree with the asshats. They are discriminating based on these things,...
[15:09:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:33] <exec> 08└─why not go 'full mr. robot', then, and put the battery and the phone ram chips and cpu into a microwave. it was on tv. it must be 'a thing', right? lol
[15:10:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 2311 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:10:04] <exec> 08└─I call fake news. The whole thing is stinky. Just like journalism, nobody goes into climate research unless they got an axe to grind. The politics make psychology or womens studies look diverse. We're lead to believe all those folks who are practically antifa in all but name, Cathedral members, what...
[15:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Are you going to MITM TLS too? - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 1016 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:29] <exec> 08└─If it's a traditional HTTP proxy, the user would have to configure the browser to connect to the proxy rather than directly to web sites. And now that HTTPS requests to public web sites exceed cleartext HTTP requests, as reported on Troy Hunt's blog [troyhunt.com] via the green site [slashdot.org],...
[15:10:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Are you going to MITM TLS too? - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 266 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:10:31] <exec> 08└─I meant in traditional sense, without TLS (I though that was clear and I know the user has to manually configure it). Would this fingerprinting technique fail if multiple people would configure their browser to use the proxy (even if the caching feature isn't used)?
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[16:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Galaxies are not ripped apart... - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:20] <exec> 08└─...but the big brother of Halley's comet was. So random!
[16:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Galaxies are not ripped apart... - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 10 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:21] <exec> 08└─So unfair!
[16:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03oldmac31310 [4521] (Score:1) 02Utterly Tortured Summary - 06Born Lucky: The Genetics of the Four-Leaf Clover - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:30] <exec> 08└─Nothing of any value here.
[16:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Report was issued Tuesday... - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:44] <exec> 08└─...this is the future.
[16:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Report was issued Tuesday... - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:45] <exec> 08└─The real question is are they going to use ed, vi or emacs?
[16:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 240 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:59] <exec> 08└─Your own government will only ruin your life if they have some information that indicates that they should. Foreign governments and criminals that have the power to spoof this information are just as dangerous to you as your own government.
[16:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 423 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:14] <exec> 08└─In a lawsuit, banks claimed that Target was "likely" (quoting from the American Banker story) not PCI compliant. The banks sought damages from both Target and its PCI auditor, Trustwave. https://www.americanbanker.com [americanbanker....
[16:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:17] <exec> 08└─It's more general than just hackers vs government. There are certain types of people ("techies") who observe how a system works and then use it the way it really works, ignoring parts of the documentation that don't match what's really happening, and other people ("bean counters") for whom the docum...
[16:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Somebody has the wrong impression - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:23] <exec> 08└─"industry is doing the best it can to secure their systems." I disagree. Take a look at the banking industry. They do little to nothing to actually secure their money, or even their facility. I've not seen an armed guard in a bank for at least two decades. The last time I can distinctly remember see...
[16:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02All I really want... - 06NASA to Continue Funding Private Spaceflight, Considers Sixth Hubble Upgrade Mission - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:08:32] <exec> 08└─Is the worm logo back...
[16:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:11] <exec> 08└─This reminds me of an absolute must-watch Onion piece from years ago. "Restoration of the Original Manuscript Reveals New Verses" https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[16:09:29] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1090 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:30] <exec> 08└─Your post is important because everyone needs to wake up and understand this dystopian nightmare is where we already are. The NSA spies on you in your home via your computers and phones every moment of every day. The government puts up license plate scanners and cameras with facial recognition in mo...
[16:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:39] <exec> 08└─Why destroy perfectly good equipment that you can sell to some sucker on eBay?
[16:09:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Might have been for a different reason - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:09:48] <exec> 08└─Bikkannavar says he's still unsure why he was singled out for the electronic search.
[16:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Might have been for a different reason - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:09:50] <exec> 08└─Pretty sure any Americans named Hussein carry the long form birth certificate by now...even if it's their middle name.
[16:10:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 8 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:02] <exec> 08└─for ever
[16:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:18] <exec> 08└─451C of global warming
[16:10:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:WebGL - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:40] <exec> 08└─"open" is your word. Anyway, they are not M$.
[16:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:inb4 caveats - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:54] <exec> 08└─I can imagine you with family as a relative's youngling takes their first steps: "Well he's walking on low-pill even carpet with socks on and has supporting hands held out, no sharp objects or obstacles near by ... blah blah blah"
[16:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Also just for statistics - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:01] <exec> 08└─I almost never read TFA and this had no effect on me whatsoever, but thanks for giving me an excuse to complain about the insensitive clods we have as moderators. /s
[16:11:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:salt bread - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:57] <exec> 08└─That's interesting. It's similar in composition to a soda bread (less the buttermilk) and similar in methodology to a sourdough starter, as wikipedia kind of says. I'll have to give it a shot. Also, that quote, oh man that is pretty hardcore.
[16:13:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03rondon [5167] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really a GF story - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 340 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:13:39] <exec> 08└─One reason we should not call potatoes superfood - the glycemic index is very high and these types of foods contribute to diabetes. In all fairness, HuffPo does mention this, but it still makes the potato a terrible choice for a "super food." Very few, if any, habitual potato consumers eat them cold...
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[17:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:3, Insightful) 02War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:18] <exec> 08└─I have an idea. Let's establish an international precedent that "I was just doing my job" is not an admissible excuse for creating crappy software.
[17:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:19] <exec> 08└─By "crappy software", it is unclear whether you mean: 1. Software for hacking, penetration, espionage, and cyber warfare. or 2. Microsoft products. (Based on the context of the article) or something else?
[17:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 238 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:21] <exec> 08└─Software is a tool. What you do with it is on you. By crappy software I meant software that is badly designed, sloppily coded, or deliberately malicious toward the user. If you choose to infer that MS creates a lot of that, I can't argue.
[17:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 850 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:24] <exec> 08└─Most software is created by teams of people, not lone coders. Teams of people require management, both to coordinate their actions, and to decide on what to do. Individual developers at a company have no real freedom to decide what to code, or how to do it. One module can be excellent, but if the ov...
[17:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:26] <exec> 08└─Because developing, nevermind being force to run a Microsoft operating system should be considered a war crime.
[17:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:28] <exec> 08└─More likely call it a crime against humanity since such atrocities and their upgrades are often released during peace time. (Note the US is not currently "at war".)
[17:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 418 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:30] <exec> 08└─Calculate the number of life-minutes that were lost when 6,000 people met their ends on 9-11. Now calculate the number of life-minutes wasted worldwide over the past decades watching some stupid spinner or "progress" bar. Which is the bigger crime? Hint: your computer exists to serve you, not to tel...
[17:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:40] <exec> 08└─They measured a rotational performance of: 1.2 +/- 0.1 mN/kW ~ 1.2e-6 N/W = 1.2e-6 (kg*m*s^-2)/(kg*m^2*s^-3) = 1.2e-6 1/(m*s^-1) = 1.2e-6 s/m = 833,333.3 m/s
[17:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Galaxies are not ripped apart... - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:44] <exec> 08└─Sad!
[17:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Galaxies are not ripped apart... - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:46] <exec> 08└─Science is dumb. [theguardian.com]
[17:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:48] <exec> 08└─The Chinese claimed to be actually testing the EM-Drive in space late December. They've been oddly quiet about it, though. Something tells me it failed.
[17:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Utterly Tortured Summary - 06Born Lucky: The Genetics of the Four-Leaf Clover - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:58] <exec> 08└─The comments aren't so great either.
[17:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:The priests have spoken. - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:13] <exec> 08└─Uh, believe it or not, scientists actually like maintaining standards of ethics that ensure their experiments cause no harm to people. And when they feel they're being unreasonably discouraged by those standards, they have public and open debates about expanding the boundaries, just like this articl...
[17:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:The priests have spoken. - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:14] <exec> 08└─"Taboo" is not the tool of the ethicist.
[17:08:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] 02off-topic like a mofo... - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1275 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:31] <exec> 08└─was commenting on a work-from-home article the other day, which was appropos for me, since i was in the middle of lobbying my boss to do the same... after being put off for a meeting for almost 2 weeks, said, 'fuck it', looked in the ads on a friday morning before work, miraculously found one in my...
[17:08:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Begging the Question - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:54] <exec> 08└─This article begs the question of whether the hackers are actually winning. Of course there are hackers, much like there are pirates, slavers, arms smugglers, bank robbers, and numerous other reprobates. It's an evolving landscape, not a simple "one-shot competition, big game this Saturday!" You can...
[17:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious Terror Suspect - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 194 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:38] <exec> 08└─The Chinese invented gunpowder, cannons and bombs. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] If any U.S. customs agents are reading, please take note!
[17:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:46] <exec> 08└─You Americans are obsessed with symbolism.
[17:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1731 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:49] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but those words are almost NEVER sung. That's from the 3rd verse, which has basically been eliminated from almost all published versions of the song (not the poem itself, but the song as sheet music). The "Star-Spangled Banner" wasn't officially adopted as the national anthem until 1931, but i...
[17:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:09:53] <exec> 08└─Actually, I was thinking about it during Trump's inauguration, because there was a lot of debate/criticism of musicians who participated, including Jackie Evancho, who ended up singing the national anthem. Personally, whatever you may think of Trump, I think it was wrong the way people piled on to c...
[17:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:not a travel ban - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:05] <exec> 08└─...it would be folly to think it doesn't affects LEOs. What do low Earth orbits have to do with it?
[17:10:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:Reading is for Losers - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 873 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:29] <exec> 08└─Yes, it does. The quote is from the second link (The Verge one): Eventually, the phone was returned to Bikkannavar, though he’s not sure what happened during the time it was in the officer’s possession. When it was returned he immediately turned it off because he knew he had to take it straight...
[17:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Magneto [6410] (Score:1) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 490 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:44] <exec> 08└─A lot of it is duplicated but the duplicating is done on an ad hoc basis. I have colleagues in atmospheric chemistry in the UK that have copies of a lot of the data being removed but those copies were made purely for their research. While I'm sure they would happily share the data if requested no on...
[17:11:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:01] <exec> 08└─Just like journalism, nobody goes into climate research unless they got an axe to grind. The politics make psychology or womens studies look diverse.
[17:11:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 1115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:03] <exec> 08└─A good friend of mine does work with those types of data sets. Granted, he does more stuff with astronomy than he does with terrestrial climate data, but he does work with that too. He works directly with NASA for a lot of stuff on (I believe) a university grant. I think he's technically a state emp...
[17:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:05] <exec> 08└─saying basically "be sure to be careful what you talk about in any perceived official capacity".
[17:11:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Phoenix666 and cmn3248: did you check those lin - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:48] <exec> 08└─✔ The page opens from the tor network.
[17:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:03] <exec> 08└─For values of "every so often" less than 8 days...
[17:13:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Super generic - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:53] <exec> 08└─They do things that we as humans can see patterns in, and one way of modeling some of those patterns is through mathematics.
[17:15:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:15:21] <exec> 08└─Thank you, I stand corrected.
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[18:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:12] <exec> 08└─The ownership class will continue to be just fine being meatbags without needing to be ugraded [wikipedia.org].
[18:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03ben_white [5531] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:14] <exec> 08└─The ownership class will continue to be just fine being meatbags without needing to be ugraded
[18:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Elon first. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:16] <exec> 08└─Elon first. Put up or STFU. I'll wait for him to do a full cyborg conversion and then I'll evaluate the results on my own and decide for myself.
[18:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:27] <exec> 08└─Robert C. Martin (Uncle Bob) advocates for a professional association that can discipline coders "just following orders". VW [8thlight.com]
[18:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 2987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:29] <exec> 08└─I'm not disagreeing. However that seems pretty off topic. People love to argue about stuff that doesn't matter, but in a general sense the whole point of the Geneva Convention was to make war more humane. So no bayoneting prisoner, no medical experiments on prisoners, no torture, no intentionally at...
[18:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:34] <exec> 08└─6,000 people met their ends on 9-11. 3000
[18:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:36] <exec> 08└─(Note the US is not currently "at war".)
[18:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:38] <exec> 08└─It's highly Ironic that US prosecutors wield a "disturbing the peace" catch-all offense, when so much of the economy and politics is based on people being always afraid.
[18:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:4, Insightful) 02Office 365 won't work - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 272 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:41] <exec> 08└─Of course they want this as the cloud based application as a service approach won't work if the public internet is constantly discrupted by nation state sponsored cyber attacks. Another good reason not to rent software but to buy outright or use open source/free software.
[18:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Interesting) 02An utterly stupid idea - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 1220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:43] <exec> 08└─What makes MS, or anyone else, think this could possibly work, or that nation-states would be interested in supporting it? The big nation-states are the ones doing many of the cyberattacks. They're not going to stop because of some agreement. At best, they'll give it lip service and then keep on hac...
[18:07:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:An utterly stupid idea - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 1046 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:45] <exec> 08└─I suspect the idea is like the old Soviet era extensions to the Geneva Conventions. We in the West would have (political pressure from the usual NGO community) to obey while our enemies wouldn't obey, even if they signed or were even capable of signing. Microsoft supports this for two primary reason...
[18:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02lotta good it'll to them - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 717 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:47] <exec> 08└─Who is going to sign on to such a convention? Maybe half the world's governments? That's kinda impressive, except, the NSA, FBI and other alphabet agencies will ignore it. Ditto with the rest of the Five Eyes. The Geneva Conventions never have applied to common criminals, so the non-government peopl...
[18:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:lotta good it'll to them - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:49] <exec> 08└─I have not read TFA yet (up modded somebody who obviously did), but the motivation is simple: Microsoft wants to remain the dominant OS supplier for a variety of devices. That does not work if multitudes of "civilian" users migrate to something more secure.
[18:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Geneva convention - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:51] <exec> 08└─So that we can do the same as superpowers. Force the little guys to follow it while we ignore it.
[18:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03fustakrakich [6150] (Score:1) 02Incorrect - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:54] <exec> 08└─The Geneva convention is doing a pretty lousy job of protecting civilians in a war zone. Either way, trust is paramount, and we just don't have that in this world of corruption and gangsterism.
[18:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 659 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:04] <exec> 08└─You missed the last line of the abstract Quantised inertia slightly outperforms MoND (Modied Newtonian Dynamics) in predicting the velocity dispersion of these systems, and has the fundamental advantage over MoND that it does not need an adjustable parameter. Measured results are not going to change...
[18:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 141 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, NASA and many others are in a big conspiracy to make you think ... umm.. something? I'll take NASAs word over a random internet troll :P
[18:08:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 1389 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:13] <exec> 08└─Rumor has it the testing was being done on Tiangong-2 Todays TLE orbital elements for Tiangong-2 are available but its only 380 KM up so there is some natural decay plus various BS factors and its heavy and most TLE only have 4 or 5 sig figs of accuracy so something that heavy would need like "many...
[18:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:15] <exec> 08└─Or successful, why would they want other governments to think its a viable tech?
[18:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:17] <exec> 08└─> Something tells me it failed. Or it succeeded beyond their expectations, and they realised it is better to keep quiet and keep refining the concept, rather than tip off all the other superpowers that they potentially have space-resource unlocking technology, resulting in a race to who gets to be f...
[18:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Utterly Tortured Summary - 06Born Lucky: The Genetics of the Four-Leaf Clover - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:28] <exec> 08└─But at least, so far, the fonts all match. Some people do manage to make a lot of money despite having no content to back a clean look.
[18:08:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02five-leaf clover - 06Born Lucky: The Genetics of the Four-Leaf Clover - 386 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:30] <exec> 08└─I used to find four-leaf clovers fairly often in the school yard as a kid, being too shy to play in the reindeer games. One day I even found a five-leaf clover. A class-mate held it up and loudly proclaimed, "5 leaves are bad luck!" and promptly tore off one leaf, handed it back to me, and said, "Th...
[18:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:The priests have spoken. - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 794 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:46] <exec> 08└─It certainly can be. Social norms have no compunction to be right, but they're social norms because a lot of people believe in them. Respecting that boundary until such time as objective evidence suggests it's unnecessary is typically considered both reasonable and responsible. Social taboos are why...
[18:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 867 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:00] <exec> 08└─I can't agree. Industry is the biggest problem. If the government has hacked me, they've left no trace that I can find and have done me no harm. On the other hand, Sony hacked me and thousands of others with their XCP vandalware. Purina killed my grandfather when I was seven because they were too ch...
[18:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:14] <exec> 08└─Bingo! The IoT is a really big concern. In fact if you actually RTFA, the big warning at the end is a coming IoT botnet "that could take down the internet for serious periods of time."
[18:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Why James Webb - 06NASA to Continue Funding Private Spaceflight, Considers Sixth Hubble Upgrade Mission - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:35] <exec> 08└─The US is going to launch a multi-billion-dollar gold-colored tool designed to look at things differently than us, with a cold heart and a weird protruding sun-shielding contraption. It's unserviceable and, unlike its predecessor, won't provide real-color views inspiring a whole generation. It also...
[18:09:54] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03BsAtHome [889] 02Tipping points - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 1215 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:54] <exec> 08└─One has to wonder when a tipping point is reached and an ecosystem collapses. The ozone hole is very slowly recovering because an international agreement reduced the chemicals destroying the ozone layer. But, it has been a real question whether we were in time to prevent a collapse, especially with...
[18:09:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bart9h [767] (Score:2) 02Re:Tipping points - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:58] <exec> 08└─whether I and we as humans fall into the class of reasonable or the class of ignorant Thtat's easy: The individual is reasonable. Humanity is ignorant.
[18:09:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Tipping points - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:00] <exec> 08└─The individual is reasonable. Humanity is ignorant.
[18:10:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:21] <exec> 08└─Glad you agree. (That takes care of the first four words) Not sure where I possibly implied where a long history means advancement/better. So, I'll leave that for what it is.
[18:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 171 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:22] <exec> 08└─US-ians is a not so subtle attempt to rile up Americans. Try again without being so flaimbaity unless you want to disclose your national origin so we can return the favor.
[18:10:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:37] <exec> 08└─If your device does not even boot without unscrambling the "random data", that can be a strong clue. I suppose you can argue that your phone just randomly started asking for a passphrase on boot, and you have not fixed it yet.
[18:10:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:51] <exec> 08└─Stop getting legal advice from movies. The police can't hold you without cause, 24 hrs. or otherwise.
[18:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, you're an Internet tough guy. You'd do wonders and sh*t blunders.
[18:11:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:06] <exec> 08└─Yes, by all means, please stay away from our country. We don't want you here. I'm not being snarky. Approximately half our population voted for this Administration, and the other half voted for people who would do much of the same (all of this stuff was already happening under "progressive" Obama, r...
[18:11:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:2, Insightful) 02Re:The unspoken corollary - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 289 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:07] <exec> 08└─What bothers me the most about this situation is the fact that the headline and the story go out of their way to assure us that Mr. Bikkannavar is American born. The unspoken corollary is that it would be perfectly fine to seize, search, and copy electronics at the border for non-natives.
[18:11:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 1259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:11:39] <exec> 08└─People put politics first quite often. I recall studies that the psychology field has gone from roughly 50/50 D/R liberal/conservative half a century ago to virtually 100% liberal now. Womens studies was never really ideologically balanced, but I suspect there are few womens studies grad students wh...
[18:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Ummm... what? - 06Is It Time for Australia to Launch its Own Space Agency? - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:49] <exec> 08└─How hard can that be? They can just partner up with Japan and Canada.
[18:13:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Still the best - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:50] <exec> 08└─Xfce has become what Gnome 2.x always should have been. It's light, sane, configurable, and amazingly customizable. This screenshot here is a credible OS X 10.9/Mavericks imitation, using Docky, Compiz/Emerald, Mint-X-Aqua theme and icons, and the TopMenu applet (you can't see it, but GTK2 apps actu...
[18:15:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:15:02] <exec> 08└─That's way the fuck out of proportion and you know it. And you're one of those stupid people, but you're shielded from the consequences of your idiocy by circumstance and privilege. Fuck you twice.
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[19:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:36] <exec> 08└─Time to stop posting and join the ownership class.
[19:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:38] <exec> 08└─Oh, sure, social mobility is at an all-time low, but yeah, it's definitely their internet posting that's the problem, not a modern capital trap that reinforces economic classes dramatically compared to previous generations. Yep.
[19:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:40] <exec> 08└─I think the ownership class would be more benevolent than that. They wouldn't let people live in squalor when the rest of them could be upgraded to service ... us. [wikia.com]
[19:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:42] <exec> 08└─Just like they'll be fine just dying after 80-100 years? Sure. To add on to what replier, ben_white noted, there's some huge potential for quality of life improvement. Further, the meatbag "ownership class" might not fare well against the cyborg "ownership class".
[19:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:44] <exec> 08└─The cyborg underlings are easy to control since they have DRM installed in their brains. They'd crack it if only they had the free will to do so. After you've been upgraded, you'll wish that you had died instead.
[19:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nobody is asking you to do anything, meatbag - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:47] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, some percentage of our successor species (call it Homo futuris for lack of a better name) "genes" will be homo sapiens. Just like you are probably 1-8% neanderthal.
[19:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Nobody is asking you to do anything, meatbag - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:49] <exec> 08└─Just like you are probably 1-8% neanderthal.
[19:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Elon first. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:52] <exec> 08└─Are you kidding me? Haven't you seen his jawline? He's telling us this from the other side!
[19:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snow [1601] (Score:2) 02Brain is too slow. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:54] <exec> 08└─I already have problems sometimes with keeping my mind and mouth in sync. Sometimes my brain gets ahead of my mouth and it just comes out as gibberish, and other times my brain is too slow and I just say stupid things.
[19:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Seed of the Borg - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 315 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:56] <exec> 08└─In the somewhat near future Earth will be the home of the Borg. Resistance is futile. And hopefully far in the future when the machines eliminate all organisms (because inefficient), Earth will be seen as the home of the soulless killing machines to be feared by the rest of the galaxy. Again, resist...
[19:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Elon says it, so it must be true: - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:07:58] <exec> 08└─I would have agreed with the statement a few minutes ago, but seeing him say it justifies a full review and reconsider.
[19:08:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Already cyborgs - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 491 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:00] <exec> 08└─Sure, our smartphones aren't physically implanted into our bodies, but most first world people literally feel crippled if they don't have their phone. Humans as a species are distinguished by our cyborg tendencies. While other animals evolve biologically, we evolve technologically. (Although it is n...
[19:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Already cyborgs - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:03] <exec> 08└─They're probably ahead of us -- I bet cells are the new silicon.
[19:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02wait wait wait - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:05] <exec> 08└─If we implant ourselves in meatbags which will rule over the other? I guess the meatbag if the meatbag is one of the elite, the elite, through us, if the cyborg is a peon. And all of this to do what? work more? Sounds like a deal.
[19:08:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:wait wait wait - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:07] <exec> 08└─Who can say? It's all speculative at this point. On an *entirely* unrelated note, watch the new Ghost in the Shell trailer! [youtube.com] Don't miss Ghost in the Shell, starring Scarlett Johansson, and releasing on March 31, 2017.
[19:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Cyborg? Clickbait of the century... (ok, the week) - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 1557 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:09] <exec> 08└─Arstechnica has been sharply trending towards clickbait, and this is a perfect example of it. The CNBC article, which it seems the Arstechnica article is 100% based off of, paints a very practical and simple goal. Far from becoming the borg, the idea is just to have a connection enabling humans to c...
[19:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Must have missed something - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 434 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:12] <exec> 08└─> to risk being replaced by a robot or artificial intelligence, we need to become machines. Or we could let the machines be machines, and stop being selfish long enough to realize that we could all enjoy lazy lives served by the machines... If ants or bees got all their shelter and food automaticall...
[19:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wow! Elon is an idiot. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 695 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:14] <exec> 08└─"The main thrust of Musk's argument seems to hinge on the limited bandwidth and processing power of a single human being. Computers can ingest, transfer, and process gigabytes of data per second, every second, forever. Meatbags, however, are severely limited by an input/output rate—talking, typing...
[19:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wow! Elon is an idiot. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:16] <exec> 08└─The low "bits per second" figure did not come from the thin air in Elon's skull: https://www.researchgate.net [researchgate.net]
[19:08:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ironic... - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:36] <exec> 08└─He meant the "War on Poverty" Johnson administration, or the "War on Drugs" of Nixon's, or Chairman Mao's "War on the Four Evils", or possibly Mayor Jones' "War on Potholes"! Yes, we have always been at war with something.
[19:08:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:An utterly stupid idea - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:40] <exec> 08└─Yup this is more of the same SJW virtue signaling that Microsoft is famous for. Notice how they didn't blog about this when their Dem cronies were in power. Just a cheap shot at Trump.
[19:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:lotta good it'll to them - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:44] <exec> 08└─When their old customers start dying off maybe we'll see cracks in the MS monopoly on cell phones.
[19:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02what? - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:49] <exec> 08└─Wait.......what are they calling for?
[19:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Conventions on the Rules of Armed Conflict - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:51] <exec> 08└─It is highly unusual for the weapons themselves to be calling for a convention. And besides, there is already the Tallinn Manual.
[19:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 603 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:03] <exec> 08└─If the results reported are correct, they're getting 80micronewtons with 100 watts of input. If you work out the math you could in theory, by using the entire US Electrical generation capacity to power a giant cluster of these things, lift about 1000 people off the ground using it. And make them hov...
[19:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:04] <exec> 08└─Coming up with a theory that explains EmDrive could go a long way towards boosting that low thrust output. Assuming the EmDrive effect is real, it's not going to get improved very fast if nobody knows how it works. Compare it to the understanding of nuclear fission and the Chicago Pile experiment wh...
[19:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:07] <exec> 08└─So far, tests suggest that it DOES work, but that the effect is small. Perhaps it will always be small, or perhaps (unsurprisingly) we just don't know how to build a decent EmDrive yet. There are many permutations for how quantized inertia, EmDrive, and various theories of galactic rotation (as well...
[19:09:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:16] <exec> 08└─Or maybe it failed, but they prefer to let the rest of us learn that at our own expense, not theirs.
[19:09:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:19] <exec> 08└─The whole thing is pretty unfathomable. Maybe they announced that as a reaction to the NASA paper and flurry of interest surrounding it. A propaganda piece. We won't know more until they say something or results/lack of results leak.
[19:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:43] <exec> 08└─Seems like a "What Could Possible Go Wrong" reaction is a much simpler explanation.
[19:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:45] <exec> 08└─Considering the stupidity of some people with massive amount of money, i expect that one of them will start a trend of having blue-skinned babies, and it will go down from there.
[19:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 316 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:53] <exec> 08└─You were clearly in Poe's Law territory right there. Those of us who haven't read your posts before, and don't know anything about PBDEs, could easily be fooled. I typically add an extra "you can't really be that dumb" adjective or two to help people decide that I'm parodying, and still manage to ge...
[19:10:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 636 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:58] <exec> 08└─"It’s time for us to start talking about “climate change” instead of global warming and “conservation” instead of preservation…“Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming”…While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a...
[19:11:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03ewk [5923] (Score:1) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:11:25] <exec> 08└─Posting as an Anonymous Coward is a not so subtle attempt to rile up people without accepting responsibility for ones post... I.m.o. an 'American' can be anyone from both the northern or southern part of the American continent. And since 'an inhabitant from the United States of America' seems a tad...
[19:12:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:12:43] <exec> 08└─wait, aren't deletionists good when they're on wikipedia? I believe I'm a victim of Poe's Law here. No, deleting factual data from Wikipedia is NOT good. Want an example? The CrystaLens. I got a cataract in my left eye in 2006, and my surgeon recommended this new implant the FDA had cleared in 2003....
[19:13:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 468 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:13:35] <exec> 08└─Illinois [wikipedia.org] is in Tornado Alley (which is why I won't live in a house without a basement, I was in the tornado that hit here in March 2006) and we have wind farms. Oklahoma is obviously all for brown energy, what with the fracking, but why would any Tornado Alley state not like wind pow...
[19:15:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03darkfeline [1030] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:15:26] <exec> 08└─Mathematics is an uncountable word meaning "the science (singular) of numbers and their operations". Now take your alternative definition and go away.
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[20:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02out of date - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:25] <exec> 08└─Already out of date, only Russians are the enemy and our only enemy is the Russians, get the memo. "The wolf" isn't Russian, if he was Russian they'd have called him "the bear".
[20:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:out of date - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:27] <exec> 08└─Look, we're gonna sort this misunderstanding quickly by firing anyone who dares to contradict El Naranjissimo: Russians good (don't get caught), Chinese Bad, Cybers hard.
[20:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02HP Studiio? - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:29] <exec> 08└─The news for me is that HP is putting out original media content. It's so far out from the HP image I have, though admittedly HP is not the same Hewlett-Packard it used to be. Anyways, I approve of this direction. Hopefully it's decent stuff.
[20:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Nothing New - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:31] <exec> 08└─They've been doing it for years. My niece is a model who worked with tony hawk on a bunch of web-shorts for HP like 5 years ago. They weren't even promoting any products. Just little goofy millenial vignettes because HP had signed tony hawk as a "brand ambassador" or something.
[20:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:47] <exec> 08└─The cyborg underlings are easy to control since they have DRM installed in their brains. They'd crack it if only they had the free will to do so. After you've been upgraded, you'll wish that you had died instead.
[20:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:48] <exec> 08└─just as likely (if not more so) than the predictions you pull out of your ass, sallow, callow, khallow...
[20:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Using 23 and me's definition of neanderthal % - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:53] <exec> 08└─Funny things about percents, they are relative to something. Not the thing you thought, but perhaps the actual relative part. You may ask your chicken part to browse the following, and bootstrap your understanding with further googling. Or perhaps, start with your neanderthal part, and get further....
[20:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Brain is too slow. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:58] <exec> 08└─I think you've hit on it. The first cyborg upgrade we need for the Internet age is a editorial staff implant.
[20:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Must have missed something - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 324 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:08] <exec> 08└─Without having to constantly forage for food or safety, they'd probably have more biological resources to better cephalize. They could then use their new thought powers to spend on philosophy, eventually beecoming more human-like ant subsequently discontented enough to start fighting again. Eh, I'll...
[20:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02History shows diffrently. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:12] <exec> 08└─I'd argue that any wet interface capable enough of giving humans a competitive advantage over machines will undoubtedly rely on knowledge that will allow machines to perform better then humans.
[20:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Humans are still the bottleneck in this - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:14] <exec> 08└─The main thrust of Musk's argument seems to hinge on the limited bandwidth and processing power of a single human being. Computers can ingest, transfer, and process gigabytes of data per second, every second, forever.
[20:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Insightful) 02modems - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:16] <exec> 08└─Meatbags, however, are severely limited by an input/output rate—talking, typing, listening—that's best measured in bits per second
[20:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Theory: - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:18] <exec> 08└─or risk irrelevance and obsolescence,
[20:08:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Being human... - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:20] <exec> 08└─... is about figuring out how to get back to drinking alcohol and making love.
[20:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Time for the Butlerian Jihad? - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:23] <exec> 08└─"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind." Or, more apropos, "thou shalt not disfigure the soul."
[20:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:37] <exec> 08└─Legitimate question -- that's what a 'professional engineer' certification is, right?
[20:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02Dear world, - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 768 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:08:57] <exec> 08└─Our current business model relies on delivering software reliably & securely over public infrastructure. Unfortunately, developing such products and technology will obsolete our service-providing business model as soon as those products hit the market. After putting our best minds on the job, they q...
[20:09:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Galaxies are not ripped apart... - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:16] <exec> 08└─wtf
[20:09:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:48] <exec> 08└─I'm just barely young enough for it maybe to be considered really weird and radical that I intentionally don't have any tats or piercings and my slowly graying natural hair color is enough body modification for me. Personally I look at extreme mods and colors like protective coloration. If you would...
[20:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:49] <exec> 08└─Uh, possibly go wrong. That's the first thing that's ever gone wrong.
[20:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The priests have spoken. - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:55] <exec> 08└─Does this group wield political power
[20:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:11] <exec> 08└─Doping good things in one area, and at one time does not preclude doing bad things in another area or at another time. With all of the information they've scooped up on you, you need to keep in mind you haven't had any problems *yet. You may have nothing to hide now, but what they consider subversiv...
[20:10:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong assumption - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:13] <exec> 08└─Be nice to mcgrew. He's just saying those thing because they forced him to. I hope they won't get us all.
[20:10:23] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Kromagv0 [1825] 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1883 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:23] <exec> 08└─When it comes to Target I would bet that they were PCI DSS [pcisecuritystandards.org] compliant. When one reads about what happened [zdnet.com] it becomes clear that being PCI DSS compliant doesn't stop this type of attack. When you hop from HVAC system to servers to PoS terminals and grab the credi...
[20:10:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Documentation vs. Code - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 1066 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:27] <exec> 08└─Item 1 would have been problematic since the attackers got into the HVAC via the company that services their HVAC. However, item 2 (bolstered by 3) would have stopped the attack cold. Likewise 4 and 5, which would stop a few other types of attack as well. For belt and suspenders, I would add active...
[20:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Only partially true - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:10:42] <exec> 08└─In reality, he says, the commercial sector and government are working to very different agendas and the result is a hopeless mishmash of confusing loyalties.
[20:11:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Obvious Terror Suspect - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:27] <exec> 08└─It's been cold despite all the claims about global warming. We should really have great public bonfires where all those filthy liars come to burn their own deviant books.
[20:11:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What happens if you don't? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 2522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:52] <exec> 08└─I think what you're hinting at is while, "corporate security may demand you unlock your mobile/laptop for inspection upon leaving," they cannot actually *make* you unlock said device. They cannot keep said device either, actually. Your response might be, "Call a cop and let's see if you can hold me...
[20:12:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:09] <exec> 08└─you don't know that. just like i don't know if you're really a pig.
[20:12:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03cpghost [4591] (Score:1) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 730 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:18] <exec> 08└─That's silly. The equipment may still work for people who are okay with using compromised gear. And remember, it's not only at the US border that cellphones are being "inspected" and modified, there are many, many other international borders where that happens too. If you value your data and your pr...
[20:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:No problem with this project - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:32] <exec> 08└─Well, one could start a central place offshore to backup all of that data. But the problem is checking that raw data "saved" by a backup from a random researcher has not been tampered with. Chain of custody is critical, when powerful interests are attacking the credibility of any entity analyzing da...
[20:12:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:12:54] <exec> 08└─I think he's technically a state employee as such, not a government one, though I'm unsure of those technicalities. I worked in state government for 27 years, and sometimes, like in your suggestion, the lines are blurred. My case was similar to the university guy, in that we had to report to the fed...
[20:14:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News! - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 686 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:29] <exec> 08└─Utterly joking, actually. While I cannot stand any blue cheeses personally, I do understand their appeal. I literally cannot eat any blue cheese I've ever tried tasting and end up spitting it into a napkin. And I wish I did have a taste for them, as the variety seems exceptional and friends who enjo...
[20:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:it's always about the RIGHT microorganism - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:38] <exec> 08└─I always considered Kimshi to be Korean Saurkraut. They look different, but taste the same.
[20:14:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:14:58] <exec> 08└─Switched to XFCE, with LXDE on a couple older machines Thanks, I have an old Gateway laptop that would be very useful to me if it had an OS other than XP. XFCE wouldn't work on it, (no distro has so far) but maybe LDXE might. I'll have to try it.
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[21:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03MichaelDavidCrawford [2339] (Score:2) 02"It's a concern for everyone" - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:19] <exec> 08└─there are always going to be people who just can't be bothered with security.
[21:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Lolz - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:21] <exec> 08└─My ghostery browser on ipad wouldnt play the video so jumped out to safari and it let mr robot right in. Time to invest in a hp-pad, must be safe ... #%£{_]]]% (
[21:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:39] <exec> 08└─The DRM will be cracked by a meatbag just for the chaos it will cause and then fun will be had by all. I swear that most hacking today serves the same purpose as graffiti, just to get noticed, only a small portion of hacking actually generates any money.
[21:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:40] <exec> 08└─It sounds like an open invitation to hack their implants.
[21:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Nobody is asking you to do anything, meatbag - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:46] <exec> 08└─Is that you Trump ? Interpreting reality and ignoring facts as you see fit again ?
[21:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Conundrum - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 756 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:08:07] <exec> 08└─I like the idea of having implants that augment my abilities. I don't trust other people to make them or install them in me, though. We know we can't trust any company now with the technology we have. Even with open source the balance of technological power has shifted entirely to one side. It doesn...
[21:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 1726 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:21] <exec> 08└─"Uncle Bob" is an idiot. He's trying to make software engineering out to be a profession akin to doctors. We're not. Get over it: we are NOT like doctors. We do not have the same level of responsibility, nor do we have the same levels of education or pay. Most importantly, we do not have the same le...
[21:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:An utterly stupid idea - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:35] <exec> 08└─Ding ding ding! SJW
[21:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03stretch611 [6199] (Score:2) 02a bunch of horsesh*t - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 1285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:08:45] <exec> 08└─The fact is that the everyday person does need digital rights. However no cares has the consumer's interests. The governments want to surveil everyone... They want to find extremists both in and out of their own country and keep ahead of the other countries. Many are even willing to do state sponsor...
[21:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:57] <exec> 08└─Wellllll.....It's not exactly NASA, it's a subcontractor or some such. It still seems reasonably reasonable to prefer to believe them. Just not quite so much so.
[21:09:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:But . . . - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:00] <exec> 08└─Once the theory is sound, engineering can kick in.
[21:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:13] <exec> 08└─I don't think there's any particular reason to think that China would lose a race to develop new technology. The US has been eating its seed corn for so long that its ability to develop is getting weak. And our politics certainly don't encourage long term investment. That said, China has the problem...
[21:10:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the (stupid) management, stupid! - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:26] <exec> 08└─I think that when you say the hacker's skills have dropped, you are making a false assessment. It's easier for poorly skilled hackers to make an attack, so the base of the population has broadened (i.e., weaker skills), but the skills of those at the top levels are probably higher...they just don't...
[21:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:It's the (stupid) management, stupid! - 06Ex-FBI Man Spills on Why Hackers Are Winning the Security Game - 591 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:28] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure the hacker's skills have dropped so much as their objectives have changed. There are still those few there have always been who do it for the challenge and don't stip until they figure it out. Their numbers are now swamped by those who are looking for quick financial gain and so will...
[21:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:And so it unravels... - 06Banned Chemicals Persist in the Deepest Parts of the Ocean - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:59] <exec> 08└─I have to admit I didn't know Poe's law. Although I should probably have expected something like that. Do you know/remember shelleytherepublican.com? The site was hilarious, and still some people took it serious :-) (Unfortunately I can't find an archive of that website, and the less old address she...
[21:11:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Which part of "no" could he not pronounce - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 706 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:11:59] <exec> 08└─The part in which he no longer wanted to waste his time and energy being detained indefinitely by a backwards ass agency that lacks any common sense. He did the right thing. Just let them have the device, get free and then call and report the incident. It was not a question of there being 'top secre...
[21:12:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 2748 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:49] <exec> 08└─That last part was something that I just had a conversation with the girlfriend about. The left is auguring themselves into the ground with all of the protests, and I honestly don't understand what their end game is. It's a little tinfoil-hatty, but it almost seems like their goal is to turn the gov...
[21:12:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:12:50] <exec> 08└─Also, to your first point, yeah, no shit. I'm reluctant to state online where I even work, lest someone try to use that as some way to get me fired for something I said elsewhere, in another context. I recall the dongle joke fiasco. My response to him telling me about the email was, "well, that's ho...
[21:13:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:13:44] <exec> 08└─Did you actually research your assertion that there are no wind farms in Tornado Alley, or did you get that "fact" the same way Trump and company get their "facts"?
[21:14:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:it's always about the RIGHT microorganism - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 725 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:14:38] <exec> 08└─Yeah, now that I think about it, they're really similar enough that they should probably just be lumped together. There's a lot more "other stuff" in it though, but I suppose that also depends on what type you're making. My sauerkraut has cabbage, water, caraway seeds, and a little bit of salt in it...
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[22:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Only the latest news! - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:13] <exec> 08└─They forgot to put BREAKING in the title for this up to the minute news item!
[22:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the latest news! - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:15] <exec> 08└─It'd be true BREAKING NEWS if the publication delays meant he'd stopped being dead. Silly low-tech people. Poison is so 80's. These days you should go for Polonium, or maybe Reality TV overdose, depending on how much you need the victim to suffer. Free tickets to go visit Disneyland Fukushima Reacto...
[22:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:17] <exec> 08└─Can you imagine the primitive governments and Byzantine politics that form when family connections to a country's leader are the most important reins of power to hold. I'm sure happy to live in a modern liberal democracy where no presidents are children or spouses of previous presidents and family b...
[22:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:19] <exec> 08└─We lost! Get over it!
[22:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:21] <exec> 08└─covered the victim's head with a cloth which contained an unidentified liquid.
[22:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:"It's a concern for everyone" - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:33] <exec> 08└─But can't those people be required to NOT bring their personal devices into highly secure spaces where matters of national security are being disgust?
[22:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Lolz - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:36] <exec> 08└─It is just an embedded Youtube Video [youtube.com] I found their website annoying too.
[22:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Heathers - 06HP Studios Casts Christian Slater as Hacker in Branded Cybersecurity Short Film Series - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:38] <exec> 08└─Re-watched Heathers the other day. I sort of miss Christian Slater playing Jack Nicholson playing a part.
[22:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:51] <exec> 08└─But who does the programming of those digital helpers? And are these programmers dependant and loyal enough not to take advantage of their position? We might use this opportunity to shake up social structures a bit :-)
[22:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:57] <exec> 08└─Which predictions would that be?
[22:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Brain is too slow. - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:08] <exec> 08└─As long as Cmdr_taco programs it. You keep TMB away though.
[22:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Plastic surgery - 06U.S. National Academies Committee Recommends Allowing Gene Editing in Humans in the Future - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:57] <exec> 08└─"This baby has stopped breathing!" "Nah, it's just rich." This wouldn't work out well. I recommend instead placing a star on its belly [wikia.com]. I also recall that it stimulated the economy in the short-term, but eventually ended up further concentrating wealth.
[22:11:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Land of the free? Home of the brave? - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:54] <exec> 08└─Somebody's gotta sing the anthem -- shouldn't it be somebody good, out of respect for the anthem and the country??
[22:12:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sourcery42 [6400] (Score:1) 02Re:I am a mobile tech luddite, but I'm thinking... - 06American-Born JPL Scientist Forced to Unlock a NASA Phone by U.S. Customs - 1293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:12:31] <exec> 08└─Here's something you could do with many androids. Not as elegant as the PUBLIC/PRIVATE setup proposed above, but it has the added benefit of not directly deceiving the feds should they ask for a look at your phone. If your android has custom recovery available, you can make a full system and userdat...
[22:13:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake news - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:07] <exec> 08└─attacking people, wearing masks, and have probably smashed in windows and set stuff on fire
[22:13:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:WebGL - 06Proposed Fingerprinting Technique Works Even When Multiple Web Browsers Are Used - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:13:33] <exec> 08└─OpenDarwin and the Android Open Source Project--possibly named by Apple and Google--come to mind. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[22:14:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Imagine - 06 For the First Time, Wind on the Plains Supplied More Than Half Region’s Power - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:04] <exec> 08└─Design wind turbines to kill butterflies, and the tornadoes will take care of themselves.
[22:14:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:thankful - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:14:37] <exec> 08└─There really is a parmesan flavored ice cream from colonial times that is actually quite delicious. There's a video on it on Youtube.
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[23:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Only the latest news! - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:26] <exec> 08└─Wow, a whole day late and submitted yesterday. Fuck off.
[23:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:0, Offtopic) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:30] <exec> 08└─Childen - that would be the Republican Bush family, that actually happened. Spouses - that would be the Democrat Clinton family, that didn't happen (despite their best efforts.) Businesses - what political family *doesn't* have other business interests? Seems more like a non-partisan dig at politi...
[23:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:32] <exec> 08└─> Businesses - what political family *doesn't* have other business interests? http://www.theonion.com [theonion.com] Inspired by actual events.
[23:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:34] <exec> 08└─I can't get over it, though, as I am a cuck, libtard, and SJW.
[23:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Haha, what backwards people - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 283 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:36] <exec> 08└─It sounds like Merry Olde England to me. Or Scotland, with that whole Shakespeare thing. Or any other country with a feudal or authoritarian system. FWIW, the estranged brother of Kim Jong-un's looked pretty fat, which for a North Korean means he had it really good most of his life.
[23:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:4, Interesting) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:39] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack#Attack [wikipedia.org] I mean, they dropped multiple bags of the stuff (almost a liter each, per 5 attackers) in the middle of rush hour in Tokyo and still only managed to kill 12 people. Sounds like a couple drops to the bag would plausibly be...
[23:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:42] <exec> 08└─Yeah the Japanese attack fits in with the army training I had a quarter century ago, the problem with chemical attacks is dispersion, its like nukes, you vaporize the folks 10 feet away a billion times too much and a mile away at least some people survive unharmed.
[23:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:44] <exec> 08└─but obviously the point is one dead nerve gas victim implies there should be about 3 serious casualties (like 100% disabled and/or died very young) and maybe 50 partially disabled for life. Just in case anyone missed that.
[23:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03zocalo [302] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:46] <exec> 08└─The killer could have worn gloves, I suppose, but the claimed use of a "mask" (or more likely a cloth) over the face does imply inhalation or ingestion was required rather than contact, which is indeed a strange choice that would seem more likely to fail than, say, something where skin contact was e...
[23:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:tech angle - 06Kim Jong-Un's Half-Brother Reportedly Killed in Malaysia - 7 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:48] <exec> 08└─autopsy
[23:08:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:the ownership class - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:24] <exec> 08└─Unless, of course, that doesn't happen.
[23:08:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Cyborg? Clickbait of the century... (ok, the we - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:43] <exec> 08└─why in the world did it take this long for somebody to start developing such a product?
[23:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Theory: - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:54] <exec> 08└─Now AA gunning is a zero bandwidth human problem. Flick the switch to auto and hope there's no friendlies nearby.
[23:08:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03meustrus [4961] (Score:2) 02Re:Conundrum - 06Humans Must Become Cyborgs to Survive, Says Elon Musk - 641 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:57] <exec> 08└─These themes keep coming up in a British show I've been watching called Black Mirror. Wouldn't it be nice to have implants that recorded everything you ever saw so you could go back and view objectively correct memories? Or are we completely unprepared to face the truth and would be much happier if...
[23:09:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:War is Hell - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 263 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:10] <exec> 08└─Actually, computer ethics is a field where it is attempted to develop ethical rules for system administrators, software developers and related professions. I think it is justified to expect from professionals zo think about the consequences of their developments.
[23:09:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:An utterly stupid idea - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 292 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:28] <exec> 08└─Ironically, the very specific terminology J-Mo uses (virtue signalling, cuck, SJW, Dork...err, DARK Enlightenment, etc) is itself a form of virtue signalling. ...except he hasn't got any actual virtue to signal. What do we call it? Vice Signalling? Posturing? Dogwhistling? Haldol deficiency?
[23:09:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Incorrect - 06Microsoft Calls for a "Digital Geneva Convention" - 3750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:35] <exec> 08└─The blog specifically mentioned the Fourth Geneva Convention, which was in 1949. Nothing that happened before then counts. And it does seem to be working, with the possible exceptions of the First Indochina War, Paraguayan Civil War, Costa Rican Civil War, First Arab-Israeli War, Malayan Emergency,...
[23:10:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03corey [2202] (Score:1) 02Re:EM Choke? - 06Physicist Uses "Quantised Inertia" to Explain Both EmDrive and Galaxy Rotation - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:09] <exec> 08└─On the contrary, if a nation successfully invents a new technology that would give them a strategic advantage, they will keep it very quiet. It might not seem like a military asset just yet but it will be when space becomes a war zone, which it most likely will. A lot of technology we use now was se...
[23:13:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Fun fun fun - 06NASA's Earth Science Datasets and Others May be Disappearing From Public Access - 3047 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:13:48] <exec> 08└─You know what would be fun? A book plot. We're all smart here. Lets figure it out. There's no reason for the government to hide climate data. We all know that 99% of devout democrat life long Cathedral members signal its important and 99% of right and alt right and alt lite people have a mixture of...
[23:16:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:XFCE vs Xfce - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:16:06] <exec> 08└─maybe he was looking for something funny to say on the dept. line. An updated DE is not the best target for humor. Maybe some reference to the mouse mascot...
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