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[00:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03dbe [1422] (Score:2) 02Missing info from the article - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 485 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:12] <exec> 08└─The linked page is light on details, there don;t even have any picture of the printed structure... Here is the original paper, but not freely accessible: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com [wiley.com] And for a view of the printed structure you can have more details here:...
[00:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Gee, if tarantulas like what they look like... - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:14] <exec> 08└─then people who wear this color may attract blue tarantulas? Or perhaps instead attract whatever blue tarantulas eat?
[00:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Erm... - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - ScienceAlert - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:27] <exec> 08└─I know, my brain wanted it it the other way I guess. Using white doesn't work as well in the current context...
[00:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Puppies - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - ScienceAlert - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:31] <exec> 08└─It was then seen adding raspberry flavourings to the remnants of the comet and slurping it down with glee.
[00:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Flat earth response - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - ScienceAlert - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:07:33] <exec> 08└─Response by flat earthers- "No. And you're a dummy stupid head."
[00:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 186 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:59] <exec> 08└─Follow that idea too far and you'd probably end up with an operating system where the "cd" command was something ridiculous like "SET DEFAULT DIRECTORY" - and that is never gonna happen.
[00:09:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03ese002 [5306] (Score:2) 02Re:Noisy - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:09:45] <exec> 08└─That aids in the detection problem. What about stopping the drone after detection?
[00:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:between infrared and microwave - 06Fully Integrated Broadband Terahertz Spectroscope on a Microchip - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:10:16] <exec> 08└─Next stop, build this into Google Glass or other "eye glasses"...
[00:11:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:In the UK - 06Crazy Ways People Avoid Tolls - 798 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:04] <exec> 08└─The people hate them. The bought-and-paid for politicians love the bribe money they get from private toll companies. They have spent decades starving the infrastructure and forcing it to fall in to severe disrepair. This forces state and local governments to resort to installing tollways to maintain...
[00:11:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] 02"activity level" - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 529 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[00:11:43] <exec> 08└─Just because a user has a high activity level does not mean they are providing useful content to the site. But Wikipedia has driven itself to this culture with internal wars and are now reaping what they sow. I quit being an occasional editor when I stumbled into someone's domain when I tried improv...
[00:11:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nobuddy [1626] (Score:2) 02Re:"activity level" - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:11:45] <exec> 08└─And god help you if you edit someone's personal pet-peeve playground. I added a game that was in development to a specific page about games in that topic. One guy completely lost his shit over it. Ranting and raging, locking down the page and reverting it all. The game finished and went to release,...
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[01:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Gee, if tarantulas like what they look like... - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:15] <exec> 08└─More scarily, there would also be a high risk of attracting scientists.
[01:07:24] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] 02Re:Erm... - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - ScienceAlert - 80 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:07:24] <exec> 08└─… that's a surveillance station. Or why else would it be called "big brother"?
[01:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:08:14] <exec> 08└─At first, I thought the sjw college kids overreached, but now I think it's a matter of judicious consideration for Yale community. However, where do you draw the line? Both Washington and Jefferson were plantation lords.
[01:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:15] <exec> 08└─And Grace Hopper refused to teach any classes with njggers in them. True fact, and incredibly ironic in the circumstances.
[01:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fuck fake news - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:08:17] <exec> 08└─Bring some citations.
[01:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03mhajicek [51] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:17] <exec> 08└─The drones will be fully autonomous, and a flock was just launched from a Super Hornet for testing recently.
[01:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03cellocgw [4190] (Score:2) 02Re:Well first things first - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:09:43] <exec> 08└─My Star Wars solution would be a pulsed RF weapon that would be able to radar-track and then destabilize the gyro/accelerometer system. Not GPS, rather that drones depend on constant and accurate feedback as to the platform's accelerations to counter the inherent instability of a multi-engined lifti...
[01:12:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02I'm no materials engineer, but... - 06Breaking News: Gaping Hole in Spillway for Tallest U.S. Dam Prompts Evacuation - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:12:18] <exec> 08└─Engineers don't know what caused cave-in that is expected to keep growing until it reaches bedrock.
[01:12:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pay Cash You Fools - 06Fast Food Chain Arby's Acknowledges Breach - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:12:32] <exec> 08└─In case you happen to check back -- put your wallet in a front pocket. I guess I got off easy, my college GF pick-pocketed me for fun one evening, we were walking along and all of a sudden she was looking through it. I switched to the front pocket after that. Front pocket also avoids sitting on it,...
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[02:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:07:29] <exec> 08└─I'm sort of torn, yes the press should be able to report, but if its restricted information, just because its leaked without permission doesn't mean its been 'released'.
[02:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0, Disagree) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:31] <exec> 08└─If it was "top secret" or above, then anyone in possession should be as guilty as the person who leaked it.
[02:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:33] <exec> 08└─Oh fuck off. This is about them getting severe jail sentences just for RECIEVING said material.
[02:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Touché) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 475 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:35] <exec> 08└─Then the government could just declare any information that would show that it's acting criminally and/or unethically is top secret and have any journalists who receive the information from whistleblowers arrested. They're already doing the former, and they're certainly going after whistleblowers. H...
[02:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:37] <exec> 08└─Then you go after the leaker, not after the reporter.
[02:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:Puppies - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:08:04] <exec> 08└─Funny that you should mention raspberry flavourings. As a matter of fact, ethyl formate has been found in deep space [scienceblogs.com], and it’s the chemical which gives raspberries and rum their flavour.
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[03:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Offtopic) 02Etrumpy - 06Randomness From a Machine - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:08] <exec> 08└─Finally something random enough to emulate Trump!
[03:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03martyb [76] (Score:2) 02Truly Random Numbers are HARD - 06Randomness From a Machine - 2493 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:10] <exec> 08└─Preface: This is more of a general comment as opposed to anyth9ing in favor or against the article mentioned here. Just a wish to provide some context to those who might want to look into this a bit (heh!) further. For those who wonder what is hard about creating random numbers, I'd suggest a look a...
[03:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03irtza [4833] (Score:1) 02Versatile law! - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:22] <exec> 08└─So, you don't like civilian x. "Anonymously" send a document and upon receipt, x is already a criminal. Commit a crime, classify it and no one can speak of it. Sensitive information gets leaked and it will pressure recipient to destroy it rather than broadcast. And most importantly provide fodder fo...
[03:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:07:24] <exec> 08└─The UK continues it's steady march to the police state. The state will always be right, the state can never be wrong, and if you get in the way, your ass is grass. I might find this all humourous, but the US is on the same march, just several steps behind.
[03:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03art guerrilla [3082] (Score:2) 02Re:Missing info from the article - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 313 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:33] <exec> 08└─thank you, RTFA and was annoyed no pix of 3D printed blue stuff, cool blue tarantula pic, though... so, could you make a set of RGB physical 'pixels' and make a monster monitor out of them ? ? ? maybe little spheres, 1/3 of each primary color, then rotate ball to show whichever color designated for...
[03:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02tarantulas don't seem to use the color - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:37] <exec> 08└─The color isn't involved in mating. It doesn't seem to be for camo or warning. The fact that the color is structural might mean that the bright blue is just a side effect. The structure itself might matter. I wonder how it interacts with bacteria, condensation, and evaporation.
[03:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Erm... - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:07:51] <exec> 08└─Wouldn't something 100k times more massive than your average comet actually be a small moon (ok, dwarf planet)?
[03:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03mendax [2840] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 297 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:23] <exec> 08└─What happened to ALGOL? It's still around in the form of JOVIAL, which is used in military avionics systems. But more important are "algorithmic languages", languages essentially derived from ALGOL. We used them all the time. C, C++, Objective C, Java, JavaScript are all "algorithmic" languages.
[03:08:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Geraldo - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:08:33] <exec> 08└─Never thought I would come to the defence of Geraldo, but he is extremely critical of conservatives and trump in particular. But he really dislikes forced political correctness.
[03:09:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Switch to Wallabag; a series of links. - 06Instapaper Needs One Week to Restore Full Service After 31-Hour Downtime - 279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:09:15] <exec> 08└─Wallabag [wallabag.org], an open source implementation of what Instapaper/Pocket do* [github.com]. (*Which is: Save articles, read them later.) Pay €12 a year [wallabag.it] or host your own [wallabag.org]. Migrate from Instapaper [wallabag.org] or Pocket [wallabag.org]. Enjoy!
[03:09:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:09:37] <exec> 08└─Troll?! Obviously some people can't handle the truth. You wimps are destroying America! Dark days of tyranny lie ahead because of you people. You're so fucking weak! Most likely democrats. You're letting the nazis win.
[03:11:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03shortscreen [2252] 02toll booths are idiotic - 06Crazy Ways People Avoid Tolls - 260 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:11:25] <exec> 08└─Toll booths should be banned by constitutional amendment, as well as nuked from orbit. The sum of wasted space, wasted time, wasted money, wasted fuel, and motor vehicle accidents due to the stupidity that is toll booths, is a disgrace and a stain on humanity.
[03:11:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:Innumerancy is an epidemic, and lack of editots - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:11:52] <exec> 08└─You are correct, I should have put a link to the study in the summary. I will try to do better in the future.
[03:12:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Thus ASCE’ Report Card of D+ on US Infrastructure - 06Breaking News: Gaping Hole in Spillway for Tallest U.S. Dam Prompts Evacuation - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:12:49] <exec> 08└─http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/ [infrastructurereportcard.org]
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[04:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:23] <exec> 08└─They already do this. We know because the information was leaked....
[04:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 259 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:26] <exec> 08└─If someone gave you a stolen Lamborghini and you knew it was stolen but drove it anyway... Aren't you as guilty as the original car thief? If the reporter received it and republished top secret documents knowing it was hotter than shit... he's headed to jail.
[04:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:28] <exec> 08└─Why are you comparing stolen cars to whistleblowing? Whistleblowing is critical to democracy and freedom, but stealing cars is not. Stop pretending like this is ordinary theft.
[04:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:30] <exec> 08└─Leaked documents isn't theft?
[04:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Desler [880] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:32] <exec> 08└─Nope, whistleblowing is public service and in free society it is not a crime.
[04:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 518 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:34] <exec> 08└─Certainly not if they were merely copied. More importantly, even if it were theft, it could easily be justified if the documents revealed that the government was acting criminally and/or unethically. It's beyond retarded to think of whistleblowing as being on the same level as mere theft, even if so...
[04:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:36] <exec> 08└─Do you work for the RIAA?
[04:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:41] <exec> 08└─You sound like a remoaner. She lost! Get over it! Brexit! Brexit! Brexit! Trump! Trump! Trump!
[04:09:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 894 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:09:44] <exec> 08└─Just to clarify - a lot of people backed the rebels, until it became clear that ISIS/DAESH were using the rebels. Today, you would have a very hard time separating rebels from any of a dozen different foreign interests, and the leading foreign interest is DAESH. Back when the rebels were really a th...
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[04:09:48] <exec> 08└─Truth is often in the eye of the beholder. Wiping people out for the sake of wiping people out is pretty damned stupid. Want to nuke a bunch of people, and maybe do some good along the way? What if I offer you something just as dramatic and intimidating, but less poisonous, and with a goal in mind?...
[04:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:10:16] <exec> 08└─Some people like abusing the fixed-width font feature.
[04:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:There is no problem, everyone is dead - 06Breaking News: Gaping Hole in Spillway for Tallest U.S. Dam Prompts Evacuation - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:12:26] <exec> 08└─How often do they dump the water? My local dam only wastes water by opening the extra sluices perhaps a dozen times a year most years, more this year. Not really worth the cost of extra turbines and generators even with a dam built for hydro. This dam is mostly for water storage so they probably dum...
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[05:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:28] <exec> 08└─Also PC-ness run rampant. Calhoun encouraged slavery because it got shit done in a new country that needed cheap labour, a mere necessity. Now they're naming after someone who enslaved machines to do her bidding, grinding away endlessly on problems for their masters and overlords under conditions no...
[05:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 89 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:46] <exec> 08└─However, where do you draw the line? Both Washington and Jefferson were plantation lords.
[05:09:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:09:42] <exec> 08└─This is why it's time to say, 'Fuck it', and drop the bomb, exterminate them all.
[05:10:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:11] <exec> 08└─Shotgun shells aren't very expensive, and probably your best readily available off-the-shelf solution.
[05:10:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Agricultural Robots? - 06New Ammonia Production Method Generates Electricity - 416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:35] <exec> 08└─"it helps to come up with concrete, alternative proposals that solve the very real design and engineering problems around farming." One example of a flexible system: https://farmbot.io [farmbot.io] Another: http://openag.media.mit.edu [mit.edu] https://en.wikipedia.org
[05:10:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Remineralization? - 06New Ammonia Production Method Generates Electricity - 330 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:37] <exec> 08└─https://remineralize.org/ [remineralize.org] "REMINERALIZATION utilizes finely ground rock dust and sea-based minerals to restore soils and forests, produce higher yields and more nutritious food, and store carbon in soils to stabilize the climate." It works for the same reason people risk volcanoes...
[05:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Increasing organic matter to hold nutrients - 06New Ammonia Production Method Generates Electricity - 698 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:10:39] <exec> 08└─Why it works: https://www.elsevier.com [elsevier.com] Essentially, as "Towards Holistic Agriculture: A Scientific Approach" by R.W. Widdowson explained (in 1987!), soil rich in organic matter holds a diversity of nutrients, but when you...
[05:12:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:More nuance needed - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:12:10] <exec> 08└─A toxic user can make huge dent in driving away new blood when you combine it with wikipedia policy of "now you are an admin you can ban people complaining about you in arbitration".
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[06:07:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Must be nice - 06Advanced EEG Analysis Reveals the Complex Beauty of the Sleeping Brain - 181 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:04] <exec> 08└─Ah sleep how I miss you just as a note when you are commenting on DIFFERENT STORIES you should be able to figure that out and not block people, making comments on DIFFERENT STORIES.
[06:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Makes sense - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:11] <exec> 08└─No Basic income for anyone, stand on your own or don't stand at all. Open boarders for people, Closed boarders for Capital
[06:07:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The money quote - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 1127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:13] <exec> 08└─BBC has a more important phrase "Currently Switzerland grants special status to foreign firms which allows cantons, or districts, to offer them lower rates of tax than domestic firms, making Switzerland an attractive destination for foreign investors." so foreigns get a better deal than local busine...
[06:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The money quote - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 275 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:16] <exec> 08└─Here is a better idea, pay for yourself, if it does not make sense to set up some international scam business, it might make sense for someone local to set up and not scam local business increasing the local economy, but that never pays 20% a quarter, so they will find a way
[06:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:07:27] <exec> 08└─""Even if you have a very good [quantum] random number generator,... " Wait where did you get that?, cause you didn't get it from any qbert that currently exists or is demonstrated to be likely to exist in say the next 20 years
[06:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 2535 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:37] <exec> 08└─If the material is leaked, it is public domain. No attempt, like the Bush administration's, can push it back into classification. The cat is out of the bag! The horse has left the barn! The Runaway has dol gurn runned away! So you want to make it illegal to receive "sensitive" information? This is o...
[06:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:07:48] <exec> 08└─People like you who are torn are essentially voting for them to do whatever they like. And before long they are grovelling in the dirt licking the boots of their betters. Soon after they are torn in other less desirable ways...
[06:09:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:57] <exec> 08└─In Montreal is we were to shoot everyone digging up the road, it would stop the sewer renovation project dead in its tracks.
[06:10:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:05] <exec> 08└─Less dangerous faiths? Like christianity with its history of buggering altar boys, bombing planned parenthood centres, and murdering doctors? All religions are dangerous, as they promote a lack of critical thinking, they don't have to think for themselves, because their book of fairytales insists th...
[06:10:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:19] <exec> 08└─Instead of spears, just use a football [ibtimes.co.uk].
[06:10:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bogsnoticus [3982] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:10:38] <exec> 08└─For those concerned about range, or knockout ability of a shotgun shell, there is always the M203/M32/MK19 grenade launchers loaded with M576 buckshot round, or Beehive (flechette) or Hornets Nest (10 x .22LR) rounds.
[06:11:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03MadTinfoilHatter [4635] (Score:2) 02Re:180 Days - 06US House Passes Long-Sought Email Privacy Bill - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:11:26] <exec> 08└─I'm not saying I disagree with you. I just pointed out why the limit may have seemed (somewhat) reasonable in 1986.
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[07:07:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:07:30] <exec> 08└─I assumed they meant something like a radiation source or resistor noise. Both are caused by "quantum" phenomena.
[07:07:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] 02police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 256 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:07:53] <exec> 08└─The UK continues it's steady march to the police state. The state will always be right, the state can never be wrong, and if you get in the way, your ass is grass. I might find this all humourous, but the US is on the same march, just several steps behind.
[07:08:00] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03dbe [1422] 02Missing info from the article - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 485 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:01] <exec> 08└─The linked page is light on details, there don;t even have any picture of the printed structure... Here is the original paper, but not freely accessible: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com [wiley.com] And for a view of the printed structure you can have more details here:...
[07:08:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No Science, but some Car Analogies! - 06Hubble Just Saw a Star Rip Apart the 'Big Brother' of Halley's Comet - 735 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:08:25] <exec> 08└─Ok, given that we are almost never, (but to those Soylentils that do enlighten us with their expertise, thank you!) actually get any real science, particulary in relation to astro-physics, could we at least have a car analogy? So, white dwarf: how many mid-sized sedans is that? Is it less, if they a...
[07:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02So when are they going to rename Yale? - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:09:13] <exec> 08└─but John C. Calhoun's legacy as a white supremacist and a national leader who passionately promoted slavery as a 'positive good' fundamentally conflicts with Yale's mission and values
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[08:07:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Cool! Can I forget now about thermodynamics? - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:01] <exec> 08└─Good if they found a better windowcoating for thermo-isolation. But the claim to cool down everything the material touches is bullshit and robs the rest of the article of all credibility.
[08:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fourier Transform - 06Advanced EEG Analysis Reveals the Complex Beauty of the Sleeping Brain - 202 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:10] <exec> 08└─Spectral analysis is a class of approaches that break a waveform signal into its component oscillations — repeating patterns over time — just as a prism breaks white light into its component colors.
[08:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02cool but - 06Advanced EEG Analysis Reveals the Complex Beauty of the Sleeping Brain - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:07:12] <exec> 08└─Sleep is fundamentally garbage collection, which itself is boring, no matter how the process get symbolized in dreams. If the brain in this state is open to other kind of extra sensorial perceptions or other fringe stuff, that is incidental.
[08:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Makes sense - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:21] <exec> 08└─Switzerland would get the whole of Italian population inside, if it had open borders.
[08:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03r1348 [5988] (Score:2) 02Re:Makes sense - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:23] <exec> 08└─Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, we would not even FIT in there!
[08:07:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:The money quote - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:27] <exec> 08└─> it doesn't fly, at least in CH. it also doesn't work anywhere else, in fact.
[08:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:39] <exec> 08└─Both are caused by "quantum" phenomena.
[08:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03stormwyrm [717] (Score:2) 02Re:sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 968 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:40] <exec> 08└─It is possible to build quantum RNGs easily enough. Lasers and beam splitters exhibit this type of randomness because reflection or transmission of a single photon by a beam splitter is quantum-mechanical, and such a system seems to have been used by the authors of the paper. Another simple way is b...
[08:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 578 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:07:52] <exec> 08└─> The intelligence agencies work for the citizens of their nation This is the James Bond and spy story books propaganda. It is likely true for the lower ranks but I am more inclined to think they form a super-national cabal, if not by design, by obvious dynamics. Super-national powers have resources...
[08:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 800 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:04] <exec> 08└─You have already been pwned then. Let us get to the basics. Man is not made for society, society is made for men. Freedom implies responsibility. Therefore, one should obtain whatever material he likes. Therefore one should be taken accountable in a proportional way to the damage he does if he distr...
[08:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:tarantulas don't seem to use the color - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:08:19] <exec> 08└─exactly what i was thinking; or its grip on common vertical surfaces or its speed when brushing past common environments or its body temp or its ability to syphon low viscosity scorpion venom or its etc ad nausea.
[08:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Geraldo - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:17] <exec> 08└─Hey now, Geraldo Rivera has a long history of drawing a line in the sand.
[08:09:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03GungnirSniper [1671] (Score:2) 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:09:30] <exec> 08└─So too must it be remembered that Robert E. Lee was an advocate for the South accepting the outcome of the afterward, rather than fomenting a hopeless campaign of terror as others did.
[08:10:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:10:31] <exec> 08└─All religions are dangerous That's why nukes are the best way to take care of the problem. And who cares about the 'religion' angle? The best place to start is the Middle East, Africa, India and Asia. They're nothing but a drain on civilized society anyway, regardless of their religion. Let's get ri...
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[08:10:32] <exec> 08└─Corporations are a bigger drain on civilized society, they leach wealth from local economies.
[08:13:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"activity level" - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:02] <exec> 08└─Yep, fuck that, not worth my trouble.
[08:13:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:"activity level" - 06Wikipedia Comments Destroyed by a Few Highly Toxic Users - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:13:03] <exec> 08└─But Wikipedia has driven itself to this culture with internal wars and are now reaping what they sow.
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[09:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Forget that, the solar example. - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 1125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:07:19] <exec> 08└─To quote: 'When laid across objects in the midday sun, the bottom layer of silver reflected almost all the visible light that hit it: The film absorbed only about 4% of incoming photons.' Meaning it would be patently USELESS attached to a solar panel since it would REFLECT ALL THE PHOTONS THE SOLAR...
[09:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:1) 02There is no touchstone test for randomness - 06Randomness From a Machine - 1632 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:07:54] <exec> 08└─I don't have access to the paper, but it appears to be a system for ensuring a set of generated numbers have certain characteristics, which is good, if those characteristics are desired, but... There is no test for randomness. Let that sink in for a minute. *** There is no test for randomness. *** W...
[09:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:08] <exec> 08└─And maybe, you are an actual Bot! No human could be so forthcoming! But I still hold up the ideal. A true patriot. Someone the entire intelligence community calls a "traitor". This is how you will know them.
[09:08:09] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 475 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:08:09] <exec> 08└─Then the government could just declare any information that would show that it's acting criminally and/or unethically is top secret and have any journalists who receive the information from whistleblowers arrested. They're already doing the former, and they're certainly going after whistleblowers. H...
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[10:07:21] <exec> 08└─be sure to mirror and seed it (via I2P or similiar if possible)
[10:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Excepts - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 2503 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:07:23] <exec> 08└─Excepts from the original FA - citations are "fair use", yes? We experimentally demonstrate an average noon-time (11am – 2pm) radiative cooling power of 93 W/m2 under direct sunshine during a three-day field test, and an average cooling power > 110 W/m2 over the continuous 72-hour day and night te...
[10:09:47] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 89 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:47] <exec> 08└─However, where do you draw the line? Both Washington and Jefferson were plantation lords.
[10:09:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 463 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:09:49] <exec> 08└─It sounds to me like this Calhoun dude took the approach that you shouldn't do something unless you thought it was good. The others were willing to compromise with evil. I'm not saying slavery is good. I'm saying that his philosophy sounds more consistent. What has gotten us in more trouble over the...
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[10:10:46] <exec> 08└─Toppling regimes just leads to chaos.
[10:10:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:10:54] <exec> 08└─I guess you got modded troll because there isn't a "-1 genocidal loon" mod option.
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[11:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:14] <exec> 08└─The wrong welds were used on nuclear modules and had to be redone.
[11:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:16] <exec> 08└─"This place ain't gonna last forever. I've seen the welds. You wiv me?" -- TWI tutor teaching us about visual inspection of welds at the nuclear power station I once worked at.
[11:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:18] <exec> 08└─"This place ain't gonna last forever. I've seen the welds. You wiv me?" -- TWI tutor teaching us about visual inspection of welds at the nuclear power station I once worked at.
[11:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 575 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:20] <exec> 08└─It was built with the intention of lasting 25 years. They got 40 out of it, completely safely. Technically it could have easily gone on to 45 or maybe 50. It was a Magnox, designed in the 1950s and commissioned in the early 60s, built like a brick outhouse. The limiting factor for the life of the re...
[11:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 473 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:07:22] <exec> 08└─TFS pretty much nails it. Once upon a time Bechtel, Westinghouse (at least the Bettis Group), G.E., and Combustion Engineering, and the other big nuke outfits were tech companies run by engineers and managers with engineering familiarity. Now it's just like any other business: MBA's and con artists...
[11:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget that, the solar example. - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:07:38] <exec> 08└─multiple layers each reducing laser power by 96 percent before ablating
[11:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03engblom [556] (Score:1) 02Or they could use a more simple solution - 06Randomness From a Machine - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:08:16] <exec> 08└─Take two bits: 0, 1 gives 0 1, 0 gives 1 0, 0 gives nothing 1, 1 gives nothing This removes bias from an otherwise random source.
[11:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02Re:police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 776 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:08:44] <exec> 08└─The whole freedom of press thing in the UK is actually an accident. It was never planned. Parliament was busy back in the Georgian days and "forgot" to renew a statute. When the UK trumpets its freedoms we often don't mention this and act like it was all part of the constitution. The link between th...
[11:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:09:46] <exec> 08└─Hey, at least you can abbreviate it to set def!
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[12:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Mage Knight clone? - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:11] <exec> 08└─Looks like someone borrowed heavily from Vlaada Chvatil and his game Mage Knight. Which might not be that odd since they are both published by WizKids. Overall I'm not a big fan of these D&D games Board game series, even the once made by WOTC such as Castle Ravenloft, Temple of Elemental Evil and Wr...
[12:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03pTamok [3042] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Independence of Quality Control - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 929 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:07:24] <exec> 08└─As long as you have independent inspection and a properly run quality control process where the people doing the quality inspection are not employed by the company delivering the product, and cannot come under influence in other ways, then the risk of shoddy workmanship causing a problem is decrease...
[12:08:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Desler [880] 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:08:38] <exec> 08└─Nope, whistleblowing is public service and in free society it is not a crime.
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[13:07:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:10] <exec> 08└─Aren't these experiments just a form of NHST? By that I mean that they only test for zero correllation without deducing a prediction for how much correlation should be seen from QM. If so, I bet this has lead to all sorts of confusion and BS papers.
[13:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02grasping at DND straw - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:18] <exec> 08└─Asteroid Resembles Dungeons and Dragons Dice [nasa.gov] Real or fake?
[13:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:30] <exec> 08└─/me boots his old laptop into Windscale 3.11 Whaaaaat?!??!??
[13:07:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Geezer [511] 02Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 473 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:07:31] <exec> 08└─TFS pretty much nails it. Once upon a time Bechtel, Westinghouse (at least the Bettis Group), G.E., and Combustion Engineering, and the other big nuke outfits were tech companies run by engineers and managers with engineering familiarity. Now it's just like any other business: MBA's and con artists...
[13:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget that, the solar example. - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:07:48] <exec> 08└─Knowing that we are bullshitting here, just for the sake of argument: Look, an Al foil has a reflectivity of 88% - only 8% lower than the TFA quoted value. Based on your logic, just wrap 8% more Al-foil around that missile and there you have it.
[13:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Makes sense - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:08:08] <exec> 08└─Switzerland would get the whole of Italian population inside, if it had open borders.
[13:11:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 305 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:11:15] <exec> 08└─Back when the rebels were really a thing, we didn't give them nearly enough resources to accomplish their goal. I can't say at what point the rebel forces were subjugated by foreign interests, but it should have been clear to the state department long before we spent millions on training and arming...
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[14:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02not weird - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:16] <exec> 08└─Quantum is the new normal!
[14:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Ahh, quantum physics - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:18] <exec> 08└─The more articles I read about it the more certain I become I have no clue how it works
[14:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 214 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:38] <exec> 08└─It was significantly better designed than the Windscale Piles. They were designed in a hurry to make plutonium for nuclear bombs. Ours were designed for generating electricity safely. I was nervous too at first :-)
[14:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:40] <exec> 08└─I was just going to say: Nuclear Power is just incompatible with our current level of business regulation. We're not responsible enough to handle it on the money side - we've got the technical chops, we make it work in the military, but the free market can't handle the ROI horizon.
[14:07:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:42] <exec> 08└─but the free market
[14:07:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:44] <exec> 08└─Correct. Free Markets work on a quarterly basis. A nuclear power plant needs to be designed, constructed, operated and decommissioned on a 100 year time scale. Only Public management and funding makes sense.
[14:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 2847 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:07:47] <exec> 08└─I know that we tend to be engineers on this site, and so we look on them fondly, but "the CEO is an engineer!" is not exactly a recipe for success or moral clarity. I mean, many (most?) pharma companies are either run by an M.D. or have one very far up in the food chain. But you wouldn't exactly hol...
[14:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:3, Insightful) 02The process worked - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 1156 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:51] <exec> 08└─I had the opposite take-away; it sounds to me like the process worked. A dodgy contractor tried to pull a fast one and the regulators caught it. Now, Toshiba is eating the cost to fix the problem. This is a normal part of the business. The reactor will be built, it will comply with NRC standards and...
[14:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02problem or working as intended? - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 501 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:07:53] <exec> 08└─So there you have it. The reason some geeks (me for example) oppose nuclear power has nothing to do with the technology, and absolutely everything to do with the morons who run it. Businessmen being in charge of this technology means it will never achieve its potential and that it will always be dan...
[14:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget that, the solar example. - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:08:11] <exec> 08└─Your calculation would be correct if the ablation rate was the same for both foils, but due to the higher energy-absorbtion the ablation-rate would also be increased.
[14:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 381 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:13] <exec> 08└─Or similarly, all veterans who return are promptly arrested for murder 1. All cops are jailed for constant 'abductions', 'threats of violence', ... (And their bosses all the way up arrested for ordering the murders and abductions) If you think whistle blowing is the same as theft, than I'd be amuse...
[14:09:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:09:21] <exec> 08└─Governments, bureaucrats, politicians, and the corrupt will take away rights that are not defended.
[14:12:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Needs ATP. - 06New Ammonia Production Method Generates Electricity - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:12:36] <exec> 08└─The very defining property of enzymes is that they are not consumed by the process. They are not converted or used up. Think of them as machines
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[15:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:22] <exec> 08└─Researchers have said that pre-Columbian, pre-maize cultures in North America created food forests/practiced permaculture. They burned the land to clear out underbrush and planted shrubs, trees, ground-level plants, and vines that produced food, medicine, or useful materials. I wonder if the former...
[15:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 1121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:31] <exec> 08└─No. There is a certain amount of correlation classical physics (or more exactly, any local realistic theory) allows, and the quantum correlation exceeds that amount. There's also an upper bound to correlations that quantum mechanics can produce, which is lower than the bound of correlations that wou...
[15:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:07:33] <exec> 08└─Please quantify, correlation runs from -1 to 1. For classical theory, apparently the data needs to be consistent with 0. - Data is not consistent with 0, so either the theory is wrong or some auxiliary assumption is off. - OK For quantum theory, the data need to be consistent with ??? - What is this...
[15:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 907 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:37] <exec> 08└─that is not true. literally not true. "time" does not exist for photons, since they move at lightspeed. For a photon, their creation may "last", their destruction may "last", but the duration of the "inbetween" is 0 (quotation marks because there are exactly zero seconds between creation and destruc...
[15:08:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:02] <exec> 08└─Correct. Free Markets work on a quarterly basis. A nuclear power plant needs to be designed, constructed, operated and decommissioned on a 100 year time scale. Only Public management and funding makes sense.
[15:08:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03turgid [4318] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 221 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:04] <exec> 08└─Point missed completely. If you subject your nuclear power station to "Free Market" forces, how can you guarantee that you're going to be profitable next quarter, let alone over the many decades that the plant will exist?
[15:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:06] <exec> 08└─Free markets have nothing to do with nuclear power.
[15:08:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:10] <exec> 08└─Oh, so many words to say: engineers (as CEO or not) and engineering are necessary but not sufficient to run a successful business Same apply to economists.
[15:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 691 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:12] <exec> 08└─The only incredibly safe nuclear reactors I have direct personal experience with (Westinghouse A2W and C1W) were built and maintained with an enormous amount of government oversight (military: NavSea Code 08, civilian: AEC/NRC), ruthless profit-seeking notwithstanding. However, these were military p...
[15:08:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:15] <exec> 08└─is not exactly a recipe for success or moral clarity.
[15:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 1119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:08:17] <exec> 08└─The outsourcing thing has always been interesting to me. If our crew can do the job for X and outsourced can do it for X/2 then either the outsource is paid less, delivers less (quality), or is more efficient. None of those are good reasons to outsource. If their process is better then don't outsour...
[15:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Good job, Swiss! - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 672 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:09:03] <exec> 08└─"Business and political circles in Switzerland had supported the plan, which was designed to prevent taxes rising sharply for foreign investors." That right there is a red flag. Those in business circles have exactly one goal, which is more money for themselves. They do not have the interests of the...
[15:09:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:43] <exec> 08└─No, I work for MPAA.
[15:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:09:50] <exec> 08└─You really don't keep up with who's who on this forum, do you? I'm the guy who has been mocking and making fun of the snowflakes who wanted Hitlery to win. I didn't very much want Trump to win, either, but he WAS the lesser of two evils, by orders of magnitude. I suppose that you mostly stay under y...
[15:12:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 436 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:12:17] <exec> 08└─You're mostly on target, but there were rebels fighting against the Syrian government before '08. Bush wouldn't consider aiding them, and by the time Obama was elected, it was already to late. Had we sent the rebels all the aid they needed around 2005, or 2006, Syria might well be a stable nation to...
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[16:07:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:15] <exec> 08└─From the summary: "Sorry PDF only." With (desktop versions of) Firefox and Chrome incorporating a PDF reader, what's the major drawback to viewing PDF articles in web browsers in 2017? At least a PDF is less likely to contain JavaScript code that hosts a real-time auction for the document's ad space...
[16:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 227 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:23] <exec> 08└─Could be a partial answer but prior to the fungal outbreak it was the most common and widespread hardwood in the nation. I don't think the relatively small populations of Indians could account for quite that much proliferation.
[16:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Limited help? - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 147 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:07:25] <exec> 08└─Looks like you can only help by giving them money? Why not let people buy sprouts and plant them? Seems like a great way to spread the tree around.
[16:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Limited help? - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:27] <exec> 08└─They're looking at several more generations of breeding before they're ready to start repopulating, sounds like. That can't effectively be done if the breeding population is scattered across the whole nation.
[16:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Limited help? - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:30] <exec> 08└─What they did was crossing the American Chestnut Tree with an Asian (resistant) relative, which created a Hybrid (50% American/50% Asian) and started backcrossing the resistant offspring to the American Chestnut Tree. Every generation the % American genes increase and the % Asian genes drop (75%/25%...
[16:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:41] <exec> 08└─It is not a simple correlation, but actually a linear combination of four correlations which are however not independent of each other (I assume they specifically measured the CHSH inequality, as this is the one usually used). Classical theory allows values between -2 and 2. Quantum mechanics allows...
[16:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:NHST - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:43] <exec> 08└─Ok, interesting. So the speilraum goes from -4 to +4. Then 50% of the spielraum is consistent with classical theory (this is pretty vague already): -4 |-------***************--------| +4 |_____________| -2 +2
[16:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02How it works - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:47] <exec> 08└─Isn't the idea that "how it works" is "how well the math predicts experiments"? I've come to appreciate that intuition is something which is overrated; there is no extra "meaning" or "interpretation" behind the mathematics, other than whether or not it accurately predicts an outcome or describes an...
[16:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 154 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:50] <exec> 08└─So you're saying that no time has passed FOR US since those photons were created? Otherwise, you're just looking at more weirdness from a different angle.
[16:07:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:52] <exec> 08└─that is not true. literally not true.
[16:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:07:55] <exec> 08└─I forgot to add: Of course the fact that it was emitted 100 years ago in our frame of reference already implies that the emission event was not in the absolute future of any part of the experiment, as the experiment was started less than 100 years ago, and the absolute future of an event has the pro...
[16:08:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 203 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:08:22] <exec> 08└─According to market theory, capital costs (barriers to entry) do not exist. More fundamentally, the price system ignores externalities. That is why you need governments imposing things like carbon taxes.
[16:10:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:10:59] <exec> 08└─She did a hell of a lot more than create COBOL. She was the first to posit that a language that didn't need a mathematician to use was even possible, and most poo pooed the idea until she actually did it. Besides COBOL, she also had a hand in the creation of FORTRAN. You guys forget that the compute...
[16:11:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:11:00] <exec> 08└─I'm not forgetting anything, that's why I said she was an extraordinary person. I just think COBOL specifically was a bad idea that many people are still paying for.
[16:12:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 1019 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:12:58] <exec> 08└─Yes - bottom left. #12 shot is very small, and it's extreme range is about 40 or 50 yards. Defining "extreme range" to mean, the shot has so little energy left, that it isn't going to penetrate the bird's feathers, let alone his skin. #1 shot extreme range is about 225 yards. Extreme range isn't the...
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[16:13:00] <exec> 08└─Extreme range for bird hunting, out to 300 meters? Hmm. I'm kinda scratching my head on that one. You're probably right, or near enough to it, except, we don't see many goose guns these days. Big 10 guage guns, with 30 inch barrels, full choked - I suppose you can probably still find one if you look...
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[17:07:22] <exec> 08└─Same thing that it always was, viewing requires a viewer, that viewer has to be installed on every system that ever wants to view it, and that becomes an attack surface for malware. Adobe Reader is often still installed even if chrome or Firefox don't use it.
[17:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:23] <exec> 08└─PDF viewers are built into browsers these days. Sometimes implemented in pure JavaScript that simply creates page elements using the browser's own rendering technology to "render" the PDF into a high fidelity viewable form. Even better, you can get PDF viewers on computers now !!!
[17:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:25] <exec> 08└─PDFs have fonts (optimized for paper rather then screen), paper size (that never matches the screen you're using unless you're on a tablet) and gutter width (that's just wasting space - even on tablets - as well as grows\shrinks with even\odd pages just so you won't be able to zoom in and casually f...
[17:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:28] <exec> 08└─Even the crazies have their reasons. What was the point of this bill? TFS gives nothing.
[17:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 1343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:30] <exec> 08└─Since no trolls ever existed before the intarweb tubes, the point could have been to make it easier to do math problems which involve PI. That would be motivated by the fact that significantly fewer students had access to electronic hand held scientific calculators in 1897 when this bill was introdu...
[17:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:4, Informative) 02It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:32] <exec> 08└─The goal of these guys was of course to set the value of pi to match the biblical truth rather than observational evidence. However, somebody did the math [purplemath.com], and it turns out the Bible doesn't say what the religious nutjobs said it says: The Biblical value of pi, once you factor in th...
[17:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03jdavidb [5690] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:34] <exec> 08└─The goal of these guys was of course to set the value of pi to match the biblical truth rather than observational evidence
[17:07:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03gauauu [3693] (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 410 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:07:37] <exec> 08└─I always believed that as well, but as far as I can tell, that's not true. It seems to be based on some wacky math by a Indiana mathematician, who then wanted to get royalties on his new "correct" version of pi, but told Indiana that they wouldn't have to pay royalties to him if they enacted this as...
[17:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The Universe doesn't care about democracy - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:39] <exec> 08└─Neither does the market; hence the immortal black market.
[17:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:41] <exec> 08└─Lets see if I get this. Some 120 years ago Dr. Goodwin (medical doctor, not mathematician) claims to have come up with a "solution" for squaring a circle but only if we make PI equal to 3.2? If the Indiana legislature would just agree with him and redefine PI to said number he would let them use his...
[17:07:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02miles mathis on pi - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:07:43] <exec> 08└─>What was the point of this bill? TFS gives nothing. There has always been a controversy concerning the value of pi, strange as it may seem. This guy provides a summary of the situation. http://milesmathis.com [milesmathis.com]
[17:08:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:not weird - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 26 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:08:08] <exec> 08└─Quantum is the new normal!
[17:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Let's add a sling-shot next - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 356 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:08:15] <exec> 08└─harnessing starlight to control measurements of particles shot between buildings in Vienna ... They pointed a telescope out of each window, trained each telescope on a bright and conveniently located (but otherwise random) star, and, before each measurement, used the color of an incoming photon from...
[17:10:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:police state - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:10:22] <exec> 08└─I didn't very much want Trump to win, either, but he WAS the lesser of two evils, by orders of magnitude.
[17:11:25] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 2133 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:25] <exec> 08└─I've been studying the history of CS and programming. FORTRAN (Formula Translator) was the first high level language, and the designers focused on demonstrating that a compiler could generate decent code, as people were skeptical that a machine could be programmed to do as well as experts writing co...
[17:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:31] <exec> 08└─I know you're just trying to be funny, but a computer is no more sentient than a light bulb is, and is no more alive than a rock. During slavery, slaves were considered sub-human animals. Your joke is even more objectionable.
[17:11:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:SJWS RUN AMOK - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:11:42] <exec> 08└─SJW? I don't understand what right wingers have against JUSTICE. WTF is wrong with you? Mom was an alcoholic when she was pregnant with you?
[17:13:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 1704 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:13:23] <exec> 08└─"#12 shot is very small, and it's extreme range is about 40 or 50 yards." Sure #12 is shorter range but I wasn't talking about #12 I was talking about birdshot. Everything on that scale is included, with the most typical probably being the 7 1/2 about the middle of the chart and both extremes includ...
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[18:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 615 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:22] <exec> 08└─If you were to grow rice, over a long time, in the same soil, wouldn't the rice eventually have sucked up all of the mercury and arsenic from the soil? Let's not forget cadmium which is mentioned in one of the links. Or is the rice getting it from some other source? (What?) And is it bad practice to...
[18:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:23] <exec> 08└─I like that idea. Growing rice using a diluted runoff from mining operations waste ponds. Suck up the arsenic in the rice. Also posibility of finding what in rice causes this to occur and developing an organic filter.
[18:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 351 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:25] <exec> 08└─The problem is burning coal puts it in the air and rain transfers it from air to dirt, where growing plants transfer it from dirt to food. Essentially you're eating dirty coal. This also explains why the Chinese 5000 years of rice consumption hasn't killed them, because they more or less have only b...
[18:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03termigator [4271] (Score:4, Insightful) 02What about cultures with high rice diets? - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:28] <exec> 08└─Since some cultures consume rice in large quantities, are there studies measuring arsenic and mercury in these groups?
[18:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03DECbot [832] (Score:1) 02Re:What about cultures with high rice diets? - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 587 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:30] <exec> 08└─I think this is interesting. However you have to consider the source of the rice. I would imagine rice from centuries old rice paddies would have lower toxin yields than new paddies or paddies planted next to industrial sites. So you would need to monitor if your study participants are buying US/new...
[18:07:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 915 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:32] <exec> 08└─What? Following fad diets have unexpected consequences? This is my shocked face. There is a very small number of people with a genetic defect who should avoid gluten, for everyone else it is perfectly fine. It isn't even like lactose where only some of us evolved a genetic trait that allows us to co...
[18:07:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Not really a GF story - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 4048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:34] <exec> 08└─Fundamentally its a story about rice, not a story about GF eating. My son has the medically diagnosed celiac disease and the first few months were rather interesting but in practice a decade later it just doesn't matter much. We mostly end up eating paleo-ish which means pretty much no grains for tw...
[18:07:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 464 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:46] <exec> 08└─Nah, pdfs are unbelievably flexible. You can create a master for a print job, or a screen friendly resolution independent indexed set of documentation with system fonts. It's all about who created it and what they targeted it for. If it had been an open standard pdf would be the ultimate portable fo...
[18:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:47] <exec> 08└─Soylent's html works like crap on mobile too. Fixed minimum width means I have to scroll around after zooming in. It is the reason I rarely visit Solylent when on mobile.
[18:07:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 1864 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:49] <exec> 08└─Yes, I completely agree about the inflexibility of PDFs. But one major advantage with PDFs with defined layout is that they still give at least some of the "navigational" experience of traditional paper reading, which to me is really useful in finding stuff if I ever need to go back to the article/b...
[18:07:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:54] <exec> 08└─All this stuff you cite is wrong. True Republicans don't believe any of your "facts". They have alternative facts instead which show that evolution is wrong, the climate isn't changing, science is the work of the Devil, and eliminating sex education keeps kids from having sex.
[18:07:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:56] <exec> 08└─Dunning-Kruger effect in action. Politicians know a little bit of math, and don't realize how much they don't know.
[18:07:57] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 375 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:07:58] <exec> 08└─The goal of these guys was of course to set the value of pi to match the biblical truth rather than observational evidence. However, somebody did the math [purplemath.com], and it turns out the Bible doesn't say what the religious nutjobs said it says: The Biblical value of pi, once you factor in th...
[18:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:02] <exec> 08└─And the biblical value if you don't factor in the thickness of the bowl is 3.0, which is even farther from 3.2 than the real value of pi. So if your assumption were right, they would have failed even more spectacularly.
[18:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 425 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:06] <exec> 08└─I can't imagine that much would have been "broken". Indiana has never been a really huge industrial state; it's mostly agriculture. As for politicians being educated more back then, I do believe you may be right about that. In fact, it seems like most people back then (at least those with an educati...
[18:08:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 137 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:08] <exec> 08└─Not to mention, you can't even round pi to 3.2 in a way that makes sense in the first place. 3.14159 rounded to the closest tenth is 3.1.
[18:08:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:miles mathis on pi - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:11] <exec> 08└─This is actually somewhat informative: https://en.wikipedia.org
[18:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Teach the controversy! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 520 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:13] <exec> 08└─It's an affront to Freedom of Free Freedom to arbitrarily dictate one so-called "mainstream" value of pi to our children. Schools need to show the range of opinions and teach that the value of pi is only a theory that has proponents and opponents. The Bible for instance gives a different value of pi...
[18:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Eat your own dog food - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:16] <exec> 08└─Make them use tires designed with that value.
[18:08:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:3, Insightful) 02And nothing has changed - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 1208 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:18] <exec> 08└─Politicians still attempt to legislate scientific results. And while sanity prevailed in the case discussed above, insanity more often than not wins the day now. Unless you are willing to ignore all ALL of the evidence of funny business in the climatology world the science is NOT settled. And anyone...
[18:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:3, Touché) 023.2 factorial? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 30 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:08:20] <exec> 08└─change the value of pi to 3.2!
[18:08:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:3.2 factorial? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:22] <exec> 08└─*math
[18:08:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:08:54] <exec> 08└─This whole thing made me angry enough
[18:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mage Knight clone? - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 522 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:04] <exec> 08└─I know it's not what you were saying, but at $50-$80 per pop, I'll happily go back to the days of cardboard counters and unbacked playing maps if the rules are halfway decent and balanced and presented in a way that allows my imagination to picture the giants in my mind rather than in 5 inch miniatu...
[18:09:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03looorg [578] (Score:2) 02Re:Mage Knight clone? - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 1508 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:09:06] <exec> 08└─While not my main intention price is another of the factors. These new boardgames are quite expensive. $80 bucks for the normal version, $130 if they paint the figures for you. A lot of people then like to add extra "boardgame bling" to their games such as extra little boxes to keep all the componen...
[18:09:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] (Score:1) 02Editorial article - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:38] <exec> 08└─Lets keep that last paragraph in the comments and not in the article summary.
[18:09:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 395 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:09:46] <exec> 08└─Hopefully any future Moon landings won't make this mistake again: the suits need to be rear-entry, and attached to the outside of the spacecraft, so that the astronauts are never exposed to any Moon dust (or any other environmental contaminant on whatever world they're setting foot on). I believe th...
[18:10:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03ragequit [44] (Score:2) 02Misleading title - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 73 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:00] <exec> 08└─Doesn't COOL (i.e. draw heat from) anything. It's just a better sunshade.
[18:10:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Re:Good job, Swiss! - 06Swiss Voters Reject Corporate Tax Reform - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:25] <exec> 08└─Yes, this. I was prepared to make almost the exact same observation. The important take-away here is that the Swiss people still retain control over their government -- its hasn't been taken over by corporatists.
[18:10:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Or they could use a more simple solution - 06Randomness From a Machine - 14 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:10:42] <exec> 08└─Take two bits:
[18:10:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Random only for you maybe - 06Randomness From a Machine - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:10:44] <exec> 08└─Said simple, you can never be sure that they don't feed you with an encrypted stream of Pi.
[18:11:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03ragequit [44] (Score:2) 02Been done - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:11:31] <exec> 08└─This is pretty much how butterfly wings work. From 2012: https://www.youtube.com [youtube.com]
[18:12:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Re:shocking they named it after someone associated - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 551 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:25] <exec> 08└─Check out the gnv project [sourceforge.net] (Gnu's Not VMS). It's one of the major stepping stones for some major porting efforts going on right now to get some semblance of modern tools/software on the platform. That it does the all the directory translation voodoo properly is equal parts amazing a...
[18:12:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:I changed my mind - 06Yale to Rename "Calhoun College" to Honor Computer Science Pioneer Grace Murray Hopper - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:12:51] <exec> 08└─It sounds to me like this Calhoun dude took the approach that you shouldn't do something unless you thought it was good. The others were willing to compromise with evil. I'm not saying slavery is good. I'm saying that his philosophy sounds more consistent.
[18:13:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03pkrasimirov [3358] (Score:2) 02Monthly fee - 06How a Poker-Playing AI Could Help Prevent Your Next Bout of the Flu - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:13:00] <exec> 08└─I picture a future where you can get sick if you don't pay your monthly subscription fee for defense. That's basically paying for danegeld.
[18:14:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:23] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=325&v=F42Bsc8YtnU [youtube.com]
[18:14:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:1) 02Re:Cheap - 06No One Knows the Best Way to Stop a Drone - 446 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:14:24] <exec> 08└─At the point you link he's firing at near horizontal at 50 yards with buckshot and evaluating whether it would kill a (possibly armored) human or larger animal. Doesn't seem real relevant but I kept watching. We're out to 200 yards and it still doesn't look surprising or particularly relevant, but i...
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[19:07:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 723 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:34] <exec> 08└─Take "very efficient" with a grain of salt... and it is very relative as well. Problem is that these trace elements are also toxic to plants, they can take it up, but also have to store it safely somewhere (coupled to chelators in the vacuole). Then, it's only the grain you eat, most of the plant is...
[19:07:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Not really a GF story - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:40] <exec> 08└─The substitute GF products taste like crap and are super expensive.
[19:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03datapharmer [2702] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:07:54] <exec> 08└─...but it is an open standard. ISO 32000. Available here: http://www.iso.org [iso.org]
[19:08:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02copyright delenda est! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:01] <exec> 08└─I saw a point. It was a money grab. But it was so badly done it was comical. The "discoverer" would have leverage for charging other states for the use of his "fact", because the work was copyrighted! It may be that the Indiana House approved the motion for political horse trading purposes, and did...
[19:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 1122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:11] <exec> 08└─That historically came with a side dish of geometry... Back in the day they learned more geometry than our kids now, which makes the whole situation even more troll-ish. I'm pretty sure the whole situation happened because of some early morse code version of 4chan, obviously /hc/ and /s/ were not as...
[19:08:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:14] <exec> 08└─My late father received a classical education, and geometry did not feature in it.
[19:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:17] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but 3.2 is even. When in doubt, always round to even numbers: in the long run you'll be rounding up and down about the same amount (since there are approximately as many even as odd numbers - we could of course also chose to always round to odd, but even numbers have better divisibility so eve...
[19:08:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:19] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but 3.2 is even. When in doubt, always round to some completely arbitrary technobabble
[19:08:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Not really about Pi - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 545 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:08:28] <exec> 08└─There's nothing in this bill that actually SETS a value for Pi by legislative fiat. In fact, I'm pretty sure the author of this BS wasn't even trying to propose a new value for Pi in general. The closest it comes is stating a finding: Furthermore, it has revealed the ratio of the chord and arc of n...
[19:08:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:08:38] <exec> 08└─Estimates range from 10 to more than 100 million people in the Americas. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[19:09:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zinho [759] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's add a sling-shot next - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 803 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:03] <exec> 08└─Yeah, these setups are pretty crazy. A lot of that is because the QM debate is still full of arguments like, "you can't prove that the two particles didn't talk to one another in the time between measurements!" In this case I think it's justified; it's just an upgrade on their random number generato...
[19:09:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:52] <exec> 08└─Terrestrially, I've found microfiber cloths good at grabbing and retaining fine powdery dust. Other towels mostly move it around on a surface, the dust probably staying surface-bound due to static electricity. Also, the scientist never imagined that he would wind up being allergic to the lunar dust...
[19:09:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 360 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:09:54] <exec> 08└─Reactions to nickel or penicillin (which aren't proteins) are termed allergies. http://www.webmd.com [webmd.com] http://www.mayoclinic.org [mayoclinic.org] http://www.mayoclinic.org
[19:10:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Must be nice - 06Advanced EEG Analysis Reveals the Complex Beauty of the Sleeping Brain - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:17] <exec> 08└─WHAT
[19:10:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The brain isn't a heap. - 06Advanced EEG Analysis Reveals the Complex Beauty of the Sleeping Brain - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:20] <exec> 08└─You're just making stuff up and nobody said anything about ESP.
[19:10:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Or they could use a more simple solution - 06Randomness From a Machine - 750 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:10:54] <exec> 08└─You can "recycle" the 00 and 11 pairs as input for a second von neumann unbiaser. There are diminishing returns, as 2p(1-p) is lower in the subsequent blocks, and also as you need two failed outputs from the previous unbiaser. However, if you have something like a p=0.6 input you'll increase your yi...
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[20:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02Math, it's not all that - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 205 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:18] <exec> 08└─"Millions" of illegals who voted. "10 billion" dollar net worth. I don't trust math. My guy in the White House is right, not some expert, elite nobody milking the system on $45k/yr off the government teat.
[20:07:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Just look around you - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:20] <exec> 08└─We use maths at almost every point of the day, whether we're working out how to thread our shoelaces, calculating the optimal moment on which to embark upon a conversation, or, if you can fly, planning your trajectory for the journey to work.
[20:07:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Justin Case [4239] (Score:2) 02Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:22] <exec> 08└─I know the word "maths" is used in some English speaking areas. But I don't get it. Would someone from one of those areas explain? How many maths have you encountered this week? Can you describe the first two of them?
[20:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 376 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:24] <exec> 08└─Maths is short for mathematics. Which is plural because it's actually the term for the set of procedures, operations, and properties that can be considered "mathematical". One could, I suppose propose the idea an atomic mathematic such that mathematic:mathematics::statistic:statistics, I guess. But...
[20:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wat - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:07:26] <exec> 08└─Living in tropical coral reefs are species of sea slugs known as nudibranchs, adorned with flanges embodying hyperbolic geometry, an alternative to the Euclidean geometry that we learn about in school, and a form that, over hundreds of years, many great mathematical minds tried to prove impossible.
[20:07:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:07:45] <exec> 08└─Hey, asshole, as dumb as fad diets are no one deserves goddamn arsenic poisoning for following them. You're taking joy in their suffering, going "Good, serves the hipsters right." Screw you.
[20:08:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 793 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:19] <exec> 08└─Education is like religion in that there's a lot of fight between sects over "we gonna do what they do but without astronomy" or "we gonna copy them with the addition of architecture". quadrivium lists geometry by name, so if he's more than 2000 or so years old I'm thinking there's merely a misunder...
[20:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:23] <exec> 08└─If the Indiana legislature would just agree with him and redefine PI to said number he would let them use his copyrighted method for free.
[20:08:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:3.2 factorial? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:32] <exec> 08└─*maths FTFY.
[20:08:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really about Pi - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:35] <exec> 08└─By the way, the only reference I seem to see to this being about Pi is in Prof. Waldo's account (see the end of the PDF): An ex-teacher from the eastern part of the state was saying: "The case is perfectly simple. If we pass this bill which establishes a new and correct value for pi, the author off...
[20:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 879 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:47] <exec> 08└─I've read high estimates like that. It makes sense given the complexity of earthworks and such that pre-contact cultures created. I do wonder why we haven't found more skeletal remains, mass graves, etc, from that time frame that would substantiate a dramatic reduction in population due to disease....
[20:08:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:49] <exec> 08└─I imagine it's sort of like what visitors to the Mid-west might observe, coming a couple centuries after the collapse of our current society, and thinking "Boy there sure is a lot of corn and wheat growing wild around here..."
[20:09:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:"hundreds of years ago" - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 852 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:13] <exec> 08└─I agree, AC has issues, but he's right, from the perspective of the photons. All in all, though, I don't think photons really care about this experiment or what it is showing - though their violation of Bell's upper limit does seem to show that they are far from indifferent. I think what the astrono...
[20:09:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Mage Knight clone? - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 1519 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:26] <exec> 08└─Parent here.... You speak truth. If I remember right I spent $38 including tax for the AD&D version 1 DM Guide and Player handbook, and that would have been somewhere between 1982 and 1984. I found them in a B. Dalton when we were on vacation in Flagstaff, Arizona. That was something around a month...
[20:09:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:50] <exec> 08└─From the story, Westinghouse hired Shaw, a contractor in a free market. Presumably they contracted with this clown based on price, it certainly wasn't his qualifications and experience.
[20:09:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:09:55] <exec> 08└─A highly relevant quote on the topic from the man himself. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[20:10:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 494 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:12] <exec> 08└─However the back of that suit mates up to the airlock, that surface will be dust covered, but, yeah, they can do better than opening the hatch and climbing in wearing a gussied up version of an orbital spacewalker suit. Remember, though, it wasn't all that long before the Apollo landings that some R...
[20:10:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Misleading title - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:10:28] <exec> 08└─Actually it *does* cool. It causes radiation to exceed influx in two manners: 1) it reflects light. This is the "sunshade" that you were talking about. 2) it increases radiation at a wavelength that is not absorbed by the air. This is cooling. (Probably not a spectacularly effective way of cooling,...
[20:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 219 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:11] <exec> 08└─I like the web cam focused on a lantern flame method, which is also quantum in nature, but is easier to set up at home. You do need to post-process the signal to remove constants, though, and to average multiple pixels.
[20:11:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Random only for you maybe - 06Randomness From a Machine - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:18] <exec> 08└─While it's true that there is no way to prove a sequence is random, there are ways to show it *probably* isn't. A string of 4's *could* be randomly generated, it's just unlikely, and the longer it gets, the less likely it is to be randomly generated. < rant> Then there's the question of bias. Even a...
[20:11:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Mixed feelings - 06UK Gov: Journalists Who Obtain Leaked Official Material Could be Sent to Prison Under New Proposals - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:11:45] <exec> 08└─Aren't you as guilty as the original car thief?
[20:12:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Butterflies do that too... - 06Blue Tarantulas Inspire 3D-Printed Color That Never Fades - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:12:08] <exec> 08└─I wonder what did it first? Anybody have more info?
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[21:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:16] <exec> 08└─Use XFCE or MATE. For lighter alternatives, try LXDE or just a window manager. And of course if more glitz regardless of weight is what you're after, there's gnome3 and KDE4...
[21:07:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03romanr [102] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 113 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:17] <exec> 08└─I find LXQT quite up to the challenge of a lightweight desktop. Also, Qt seems that it will support wayland soon.
[21:07:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Just look around you - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:28] <exec> 08└─I only drive to work in vehicles whose wheels obey Pi = 3.2
[21:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03BsAtHome [889] (Score:2) 02Re:Just look around you - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 303 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:29] <exec> 08└─So you are driving with less air in the tires? I'm sure you can calculate the exact amount of air needed to make pi=3.2 for your wheels. What are you waiting for... give us an answer already, or do you need to go through the legislative to declare the correct amount of air by law (only in Indiana)?...
[21:07:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:33] <exec> 08└─But the absence of an s in American English, is just a variance in abbreviation.
[21:07:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:35] <exec> 08└─fascinating: The act of attaching two objects together so they are permanently bonded. English isn't screwed up. It just wasn't planned by someone having good mathematical or logical skillz. It doesn't help that partial merges were done with vocabularies from other languages.
[21:07:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Math touches everything around us - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:07:39] <exec> 08└─While Math may touch everything around us, it is good to get away from it sometimes. That is why I use the web browser on my computer to visit this fine forum and be removed from anything remotely touched by math.
[21:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:This is my shocked face - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:54] <exec> 08└─Stupid hurts, that is generally the clue that it is stupid. Trying to remove the consequences of being stupid is why we have a broken world tottering on the abyss of chaos. It does not matter whether you approve, the universe will punish stupidity. The goal is to teach people this basic truth so tha...
[21:07:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rivenaleem [3400] (Score:2) 02Re:Not really a GF story - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 286 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:07:58] <exec> 08└─Regardless of the GF-centric nature of your family's diet, it is worth pointing out that the amount of thought that you put into what you eat already sets you apart from the vast majority of families in the world. That is the crucial first-step in any improved diet and being healthier.
[21:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Adobe - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:16] <exec> 08└─It's a piece of shit. Good news is you don't have to use it.
[21:08:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Reason - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 610 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:23] <exec> 08└─IIUC, the history is all wrong. As *I* understand it A math professor(teacher?) wanted the state to make his book the official text (and to show how stupid legislators are) so he got a bill submitted that would, in return for the right to freely use his book, (a huge bunch of complicated text that w...
[21:08:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:It's not even right by its own standards - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 176 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:29] <exec> 08└─The goal of these guys was of course to set the value of pi to match the biblical truth rather than observational evidence. Apparently that's one of the fake ones. [snopes.com]
[21:08:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Eat your own dog food - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:08:45] <exec> 08└─Probably wouldn't make any difference to tires. They deform to the road anyway.
[21:09:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:09:04] <exec> 08└─You won't find corn growing wild. Unlike wheat it is dependent on people to spread it. (Squirrels and crows, etc., do a minor job, but not sufficient to maintain the species.) This is true even of Maize ... I think you need to get all the way back to teosinte before you get one that can maintain its...
[21:09:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Corelli's A [1772] (Score:2) 02Symbiosis - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:08] <exec> 08└─Work to begin shortly on restoring village smithies.
[21:09:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02why - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:09:10] <exec> 08└─why did the american chestnut tree cross the road? it was stapled to the chicken.
[21:10:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Independence of Quality Control - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 432 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:10:16] <exec> 08└─Toshiba didn't do the work or buy the work, Toshiba hired Westinghouse to do the work, and Westinghouse subcontracted to someone who didn't know or didn't care. Possibly both. Once upon a time Westinghouse had a good name, but after this, *I* think that they should need to pay the bills to fix/repla...
[21:10:17] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] 02The process worked - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 1156 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:17] <exec> 08└─I had the opposite take-away; it sounds to me like the process worked. A dodgy contractor tried to pull a fast one and the regulators caught it. Now, Toshiba is eating the cost to fix the problem. This is a normal part of the business. The reactor will be built, it will comply with NRC standards and...
[21:10:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03nitehawk214 [1304] 02Editorial article - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 77 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:10:20] <exec> 08└─Lets keep that last paragraph in the comments and not in the article summary.
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[22:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kunasou [4148] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 191 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:22] <exec> 08└─If you want something really lightweight try OpenBox(with xfce4-panel looks nice), i3 or sway. Compositing can be handled with things like xcompmgr or compton easily and sway has it built-in.
[22:07:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:23] <exec> 08└─Meh, compositing is overrated. Also, IceWM...
[22:07:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03tekk [5704] (Score:2) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:25] <exec> 08└─You definitely want to go with compton. Compton is specifically a fork of xcompmgr to fix some memory leaks in xcompmgr, otherwise you have to restart it every so often.
[22:07:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03mechanicjay [7] (Score:2) 02Yay! - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:28] <exec> 08└─I've been an XFCE user ever since Gnome 3 became a thing. Honestly, it's just about everything I've ever wanted in a Desktop Environment. On occasion though, I do miss some of the visual wizardry I used to get with the compiz on Metacity. Oh well.
[22:07:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02good - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:30] <exec> 08└─I tend to use xfce as main desktop, does the job well, I also don't recall problems with thunar. I mostly use the shell for moving around files, but I recall a multifile copy operation successfully resumed after the usb cable of the external hd disconnected momentarily. I also like the multiple file...
[22:07:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Math, it's not all that - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:40] <exec> 08└─You must be one of those irrational numbers I keep hearing about.
[22:07:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Oakenshield [4900] (Score:1) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 538 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:49] <exec> 08└─I'd say it's pretty screwed up. It's not just the influence of multiple vocabularies. We have grammar influence of multiple languages too. See John McWhorter's book, Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue for examples, including the Celtic "meaningless do." We have spellings that match arcane or obsolete pr...
[22:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Maths? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 1456 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:51] <exec> 08└─Two countries separated by a common language. Its just "UK speak" for mathematics. From what I've seen of them, they talk very generically in conversation like "maths class" which in the USA would mean they're special education students still learning arithmetic even if they're high school students,...
[22:07:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Math touches everything around us - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:55] <exec> 08└─*maths
[22:07:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Math touches everything around us - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:07:57] <exec> 08└─Make up your mind! [soylentnews.org]
[22:07:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Super generic - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:07:59] <exec> 08└─I noticed that you can search and replace "organic chemistry" for "math" in the linked article and reads just as well, and now I can't stop. You can also swap in "physics" and "science" in general. Its fun to see what doesn't work as a substitution and re-read. "Theology". "Computer science" don't w...
[22:08:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:12] <exec> 08└─the arsenic is from pesticide used on cotton. now that land is used for rice and citrus. this happened a lot in Texas and much less so in California. so, buy cali rice and avoid texas rice. this was news a few years ago.
[22:08:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Guppy [3213] (Score:1) 02Re:What about cultures with high rice diets? - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:08:15] <exec> 08└─Part of the arsenic comes from naturally occurring traces found in some alluvial sediments. However, another sources comes from arsenic-based pesticides that used to mostly be used in cotton-growing regions, and arsenic-containing coccidiostats given to poultry. As far as domestic-grown rice goes, t...
[22:09:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03gawdonblue [412] (Score:2) 02Re:3.2 factorial? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 388 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:12] <exec> 08└─"Math" is the shortened version of singular noun mathematic, while "maths" is the diminutive equivalent of the plural mathematics. The word derives from the Latin mathematica (plural) - things which are learned. If you're discussing a single mathematical idea then you might refer to the "math", howe...
[22:09:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Let's add a sling-shot next - 06Experiment Reaffirms Quantum Weirdness - 243 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:09:56] <exec> 08└─PS - whichever whippersnapper thought that "Saved by the Bell" was worthy of standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Dr. Who and Monty Python in the annals of Science history for being used as an RNG for an epic experiment needs to GET OFF MY LAWN.
[22:10:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Mage Knight clone? - 06Assault of the Giants: A Great D&D Game With 5" Mega-Miniatures - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:10:09] <exec> 08└─Just played Conan a few times with some friends. Love the mechanics, but at $125 (early), and $250 (retail), that sure feels steep... Value for the money, plus fun with friends, compared to most other silly entertainment? True, but dang it's hard to imagine spending that much for one game... (AD&D 2...
[22:11:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Forget that, the solar example. - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 450 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:08] <exec> 08└─I believe the magic foo here is the semi-one-way radiation of heat based on the combination of glass spheres and silver film - put that on the back of a solar panel and it could radiate heat more effectively than an uncoated panel because the heat energy is being radiated at a wavelength not absorbe...
[22:11:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Misleading title - 06Cheap Plastic Film Cools Whatever It Touches by Up to 10°C - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:13] <exec> 08└─It would actually be pretty scary stuff if it were really really good at redistributing your heat energy to wavelengths not absorbed or reflected by the atmosphere, get wrapped in that and you would lose heat like you were standing in empty space. Air is a pretty good insulating blanket - think of t...
[22:11:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:sorry what? - 06Randomness From a Machine - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:11:55] <exec> 08└─You'd do better trying to amplify shot noise from the webcam CCDs. The CCDs obviously work using the photoelectric effect, which is very much a quantum mechanical phenomenon.
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[23:07:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Funny) 02thankful - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:07] <exec> 08└─Identifying all of the active fungi in a cheese is "an endless, endless rabbit hole"
[23:07:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 242 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:08] <exec> 08└─Might as well chow down on well-used socks, hmmm? This is right up there with eating pepper, a plant that hurts you: human brains have their defects Strong cheese even has the same odor molecules as vomit. If you like that, puke and be happy.
[23:07:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03charon [5660] (Score:1) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 32 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:10] <exec> 08└─Mmm, casu marzu [wikipedia.org].
[23:07:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03fishybell [3156] (Score:2) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:12] <exec> 08└─From that wiki: Some people clear the larvae from the cheese before consuming while others do not.
[23:07:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:15] <exec> 08└─Well, why waste perfectly good protein? Couldn't find English subtitles for this old parody of fine rural products: Roll the dried toad inside the bottle before filling with alcohol [dailymotion.com]. (starts near 50s)
[23:07:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 248 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:17] <exec> 08└─Yep, Sardinia/Corsica have some of the most offensive cheeses I've ever seen. Dropping one in a crowded US room would be classified as chem/bio-terror. And that's from someone who can handle most continental cheeses... Dang, I miss cheap Coulomier.
[23:07:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:like feet and vomit - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:19] <exec> 08└─Would you rather eat cheese or insects?
[23:07:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Fake News! - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:21] <exec> 08└─And if the cheese is blue cheese, where the bacteria P. roqueforti dwell deep inside, enjoying a slice means consuming living fungi in the middle of their own midday snack.
[23:07:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03aliks [357] (Score:2) 02Love cheese and you love life - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:23] <exec> 08└─As de Gaulle once said - how can you conquer a country with over 900 different cheeses. If you worry about ammonia smelling cheese then think of it as a macho challenge.
[23:07:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02The greatest question with cheese... - 06Good Mold, Bad Mold: What Cheese Caves Have That Your Refrigerator Doesn't - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:07:25] <exec> 08└─Sometimes the better question is not what is in the cheese, but who cut the cheese.
[23:07:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If you want a relatively heavy desktop env - 06Upcoming XFCE Releases - 195 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:07:37] <exec> 08└─That's not a problem for me. $ ps uaxw|grep -E "xcompmgr|PID" USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND acoward 2578 0.2 0.0 29732 1208 ? S Feb06 24:37 xcompmgr -n -d :0
[23:08:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03aliks [357] (Score:2) 02Why maths not math? - 06Maths in the World Around Us - 627 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:08:03] <exec> 08└─In the 18th and 19th centuries they thought about Algebra, Geometry and Logic as different branches of thought and therefore different "mathematics", with maybe another divide between pure and applied. Uniting these different branches was a major goal but since around 1900 the focus moved from "loca...
[23:08:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Maybe this is a dumb question - 06Gluten Free... and Fortified with Mercury and Arsenic - 828 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:17] <exec> 08└─Rice requires large amounts of water. Those elements can be carried by water. I would expect them to be especially prevalent in ground-water. We had a story about nitrate (from e.g. fertilizer) apparently mobilising uranium into ground-water. /article.pl?sid=15/12/08/215208 [soylentnews.org] There w...
[23:08:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:What's so bad about PDF nowadays? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:41] <exec> 08└─Isn't pdf basically compressed postscript? The funny thing is that choosing postscript over html for the web would have brought embedded fonts plus typographically precise styling plus scripting ability plus printer friendliness from day one. BUT of course I prefer the medium agnostic html.
[23:08:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Adobe - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 526 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:46] <exec> 08└─Sturgeon's Law also applies to computers. It's ironic that the same people who talk about how Java and Flash and PDF are heaping piles of steaming shit, will probably just be bitching about their replacements 20 years down the road anyway. Trying to make an elegant technical solution tends to get in...
[23:08:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Adobe - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:08:48] <exec> 08└─Also, Good, Cheap, Fast: Pick any two.
[23:09:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Pi is exactly 3! - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:07] <exec> 08└─Made me chuckle.
[23:09:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Eat your own dog food - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 121 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:17] <exec> 08└─Using a value of 3 for Pi greatly simplifies the design of your mail sorting machine, according to Bloody Stupid Johnson.
[23:09:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And nothing has changed - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:20] <exec> 08└─jmorris, you just overloaded my irony meter. You owe me a new one.
[23:09:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:3.2 factorial? - 06True Facts and Fake Facts -- On Setting pi to 3.2 - 270 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:26] <exec> 08└─Some words just don't have a singular/plural form. For example, would you consider "algebra" singular or plural? You do algebras? You solve an algeber? Math isn't plural, it's a collective noun or something. "Mathematic" isn't a word; the adjective form is mathematical.
[23:09:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Food Forest - 06Restoring the American Chestnut Tree - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:09:39] <exec> 08└─I do wonder why we haven't found more skeletal remains, mass graves, etc, from that time frame that would substantiate a dramatic reduction in population due to disease.
[23:10:39] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03turgid [4318] 02Re:Govt - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 207 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:40] <exec> 08└─Correct. Free Markets work on a quarterly basis. A nuclear power plant needs to be designed, constructed, operated and decommissioned on a 100 year time scale. Only Public management and funding makes sense.
[23:10:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Up-Mod TFS - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 320 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:52] <exec> 08└─That's how they are currently set up to run, but it is a fundamental law of nature that requires it to be thus. Simply changing corporation law making it clear that profit seeking takes back seat to being a good member of the community in certain definable ways, backed up by decade long prison terms...
[23:10:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:Independence of Quality Control - 06Toshiba Nuked Half its Assets - 290 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:10:56] <exec> 08└─Actually, Westinghouse is a subsidiary of Toshiba. From TFA: The Shaw Group Inc., based in Baton Rouge, looms large in the complex tale of blown deadlines and budgets at four nuclear reactor projects in Georgia and South Carolina overseen by Westinghouse Electric Co., a Toshiba subsidiary.
[23:11:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Keep the suits out of the capsule - 06The Apollo Astronaut who was Allergic to the Moon - 368 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:11:11] <exec> 08└─Better lesson for next time: whether you bring the suits in or not, you need a well-designed air circulation and filtration system. Ideally, you leave the suits in their own box separate from the main compartment. But since you are extremely weight-sensitive, some particles will get through from one...
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