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[00:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Good Work - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:15] <exec> 08└─I wonder how much he paid in taxes just on the IRS collecting interest on his money before he got it all back.
[00:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:26] <exec> 08└─The rule isn't about evidence quality. Nor is it about chain of custody. No, the thing that might get this evidence tossed out of court is the 4th amendment. Namely that evidence gathered without a warrant, in general, doesn't stand in court. Fruit of the Forbidden Tree, I think they call it. The ho...
[00:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:28] <exec> 08└─Probable cause to search your house isn't defamation. They call it "probable cause" because they're upfront admitting it's not true. I've never heard of anyone receiving damages for being investigated for a crime. Not under any circumstances. And it's only false prosecution if... guess what, they pr...
[00:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheGratefulNet [659] (Score:2) 02Re:One difference? - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 607 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:01:49] <exec> 08└─feds already have ALL our data. we all (mostly) know this, right? so, all they now want is to do parallel reconstruction. and you know, I really don't like giving the government more power. they have too much already and I have doubts about ANYTHING they say is 'to fight crime'. they are the #1 crim...
[00:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:06] <exec> 08└─Now you're just splitting hairs between a Democrat and a Republican...
[00:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:14] <exec> 08└─Really? Now that would actually be unprecedented! http://eggcorns.lascribe.net [lascribe.net]
[00:02:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03q.kontinuum [532] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:02:18] <exec> 08└─Russian electors
[00:03:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Article summary is factually incorrect - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:15] <exec> 08└─Unauthorized copying is not stealing, no matter how much some people try to insist that it is.
[00:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Money - 06Georgia Tests New Solar Road - 656 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:03:32] <exec> 08└─VLM is right about the solar panels. It's the easements that cost the most. Since the highways already have those, it makes sense to use them better. They have that sort of thing in places on the road between NYC and Boston (I-95, I think it is). They're a bit off the shoulder so wrecks don't typica...
[00:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Tangential topic - 06Photons Brake the Sun - 125 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:04:16] <exec> 08└─Acceleration to, and deceleration from, the speed of light can be a little rough if you do it in a reasonable amount of time.
[00:07:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:this should be a fun read in the morning - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:07:13] <exec> 08└─from the fortune file: "Some men are so macho they'll get you pregnant just to kill a rabbit." (Maureen Murphy)
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[01:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US court: Russia can seize all emails - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:42] <exec> 08└─Thus you might as well summarize the article as: "US court: Russia can legally read all gmail emails from all over the world."
[01:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:US court: Russia can seize all emails - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 183 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:01:43] <exec> 08└─"In order to operate legally in our country you have to violate the laws of other countries you are operating in and enforce US jurisdiction in these other countries as well." Better?
[01:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 19 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:14] <exec> 08└─I can't trump that.
[01:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:16] <exec> 08└─But, seriously, Al Bundy, from Scotland?
[01:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Redefine "AI" - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 1091 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:02:29] <exec> 08└─We've known for decades that a neural network can approximate any mathematical function. The only limitations are the complexity of the training data and the complexity of the network. Ask yourself this: How many times have you walked down the street and thought that you saw someone that you knew, o...
[01:03:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:1) 02Re:Why backdoored encryption is a bad idea ... - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 1196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:03] <exec> 08└─Huh? First, I didn't mean to imply that assets make you "beholding and slaved to those above". I see how you might infer that though--people who have something to lose are "invested in the system". If the country "goes sour" they may look at what the alternatives are and feel trapped. Debt is litera...
[01:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Money - 06Georgia Tests New Solar Road - 200 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:03:40] <exec> 08└─Making a train from, say, DC down to Atlanta along some existing highways isn't going to have enough ridership to work; it just takes too long to travel that far on the ground without high-speed rail.
[01:04:38] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NCommander [2] 02Re:Just do debian. - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 485 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:04:38] <exec> 08└─Doesn't work nearly as well as you'd think. Debian has a hard system of binding for dependencies, and anything that wants an SD socket will pull it in without an explicate pin to block it. I honestly won't be surprised if we've got a bunch of packages that only install unit files now and don't bothe...
[01:04:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03schad [2398] (Score:2) 02Re:Not niche - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 1267 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:04:54] <exec> 08└─When you can rattle off a near-complete list of every major deployment, present or recent past, you're kind of making my case for me. I love FreeBSD. I like it better than Linux, and I always have. It fits better with my sense for how computers ought to operate. But... I'm sick of fighting with Linu...
[01:05:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03archfeld [4650] (Score:2) 02Re:Punishment - 06Vizio Settles With FTC, Will Pay $2.2 Million and Delete User Data - 312 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:05:43] <exec> 08└─I personally agree, but the current standard for a civil suit requires demonstration of financial loss via monetary or slander/libel that can be directly translated in a loss of business hence again a financial loss. I think violating your privacy ought to be at least justification for a solid kick...
[01:05:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatOutdoors [6408] (Score:1) 02Not even a real fine. - 06Vizio Settles With FTC, Will Pay $2.2 Million and Delete User Data - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:05:44] <exec> 08└─Let's to the math on this. 11m people affected and the fine is 2.2m. that is $0.20 per person. You are telling me that user data is only worth 20 cents per person, even when they invaded your privacy and trust. This is not justice, this is a corporation paying off the government "since they got cau...
[01:06:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Semi-OT: BaaS - 06Chrome 56 Quietly Added Bluetooth Snitch API - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:06:56] <exec> 08└─You should look into X or Wayland...
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[02:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good Work - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:14] <exec> 08└─We'll get trumps tax data eventually. And... It will be such a massive chunk of data networked across so many companies in the world he will be attacked on a billion little issues. We will waste BILLIONS in cash and man hours on it. And at the end of the day no incriminating evidence will be found....
[02:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Good Work - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 721 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:15] <exec> 08└─My basic guess as to what Donald Trump's tax returns would show, and why he's so resistant to releasing them: His net worth is somewhere around -$500,000,000. If any of his creditors definitively knew that, they'd all call in their debts, which would absolutely ruin him and his public image of a "su...
[02:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:27] <exec> 08└─If the vigilante on their own, not solicited by the State, provides evidence to the police, it is valid. They acted on their own as a private individual. They can do it once, maybe twice... however, if it happens with any frequency, the Defense can argue that the vigilante was acting on behalf of th...
[02:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:What the Mitnick?! - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:42] <exec> 08└─That which belongs to ordinary people has no value. That which belongs to the government or large companies has inestimable value. How is this so hard to understand?
[02:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Evil vs. evil - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 1881 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:01:56] <exec> 08└─Sure, first you have to realize that it really is a slave trade both to the US and to Europe. The people on the train called "the Beast" up through Latin America or the people in huge rubber dingies in the Mediterranean or the people hidden in containers and so on are there because they think they'r...
[02:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 38 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:02:13] <exec> 08└─This month that academic is Alan Bundy
[02:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:It is very easy to understand - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 673 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:05] <exec> 08└─Didn't we do this one a couple of months ago? The govt is telling us that he may possibly have stolen XYZ, allegedly killed Jimmy Hoffa, and is rumoured to have caused the GFC. If you look at what he actually, provably did, it's that he took some stuff home that he shouldn't have while in all other...
[02:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Anyone else? - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 1364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:03:33] <exec> 08└─Anyone else have the gut feeling that this guy is only being used as a scapegoat/excuse, or nothing but a plain diversion, or some kind of honey trap? Poor guy if he's telling the truth (being stupid is really easy, but that said this guy was hoarding stupid), or maybe a very lucky guy if he's a sca...
[02:03:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03vux984 [5045] (Score:2) 02Re:Money - 06Georgia Tests New Solar Road - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:03:45] <exec> 08└─VLM is right about the solar panels.
[02:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Liability - 06Georgia Tests New Solar Road - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:04:16] <exec> 08└─Don't forget that all the smashed glass from the panels that will be flying around in the event of a crash is going to present a significant safety hazard.
[02:05:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:Not niche - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 844 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:06] <exec> 08└─He didn't rattle off anything close to the whole list, just the biggest names. Netflix is worth mentioning because it's responsible for over a third of all Internet traffic in North America and that all comes from FreeBSD boxes (and because they could saturate dual 40GigE NICs from a single commodit...
[02:05:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:SoylentOS! - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:17] <exec> 08└─Microkernels are so '80s. These days it's unikernels all the way down. Bring on the Rehash rewrite in OCaml, running directly atop Xen!
[02:05:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03TheRaven [270] (Score:2) 02Re:AmigaOS 1.3, obviously - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:05:37] <exec> 08└─Contiki runs on the C64 and supports multithreading (though, admittedly, only with protothreads that are closer to stackless coroutines). It does have a working TCP/IP stack though, and a web server!
[02:07:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Cost vs value - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:50] <exec> 08└─Thank you for the correction - I get my own derp for that post, LOL.
[02:07:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Cost vs value - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:07:51] <exec> 08└─Dodd-Frank has introduced so much make-work it might as well be called the Corporate Lawyer Full Employment Bill. There are better ways of solving the problems at hand. And besides, Trump doesn't get to repeal anything. It's not a power the president has.
[02:10:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Stages of grief - 06Bad Idea or the Worst Idea? Having the FTC Regulate "Fake News" - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:10:01] <exec> 08└─Masturbation is public is illegal. Put that tiny thing away before it gets caught in yer zipper.
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[03:01:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. Also probably wrong... - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 3444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:36] <exec> 08└─-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 An astute observation, and almost certain to be partially true, applying to a number of sites affected. These are important stories to see and to report on, but I wish the submitters would not buy into the witch-hunt lingo like "child porn", which in p...
[03:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02A fifth of filth - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:01:40] <exec> 08└─Better than nothing! Keep up the good work whoever did this. On topic I'm looking forward to Pizzagate being blown wide open soon :) Main question I have right now is where exactly Hillary Clinton fits into this, will she testify against Podesta and/or Bill? Is she still alive or has it all been bod...
[03:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03mattTheOne [1788] (Score:1) 02Re:US court: Russia can seize all emails - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 465 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:01:57] <exec> 08└─That's exactly the quagmire here, US courts are trying to enforce jurisdiction in another sovereign country. Unless the FBI gets the warrant through Interpol/wherever in Ireland/Somali/Wherever the servers are hosted, it leaves America to Russia or more realistically China requesting data, and seizi...
[03:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Evil vs. evil - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:05] <exec> 08└─These companies are opposed to stopping the *legal* flow of immigrants. I'm not really sure what you're on about. At this point, I think I'm not really that interested either.
[03:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Evil vs. evil - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 1018 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:08] <exec> 08└─Also since that probably didn't connect the dots enough for you in this specific case it's about legal documentation not being trustworthy or verifiable from some number of countries. Of course buying yourself an "official" genuine but illicit passport costs money, money which you more than likely d...
[03:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 399 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:02:39] <exec> 08└─But what if you were only given the choice between idiot AI 1 and idiot AI 2 while not being allowed another choice due to vendor lock in? The vendors need their kickbacks. The vendors, so appointed by God, must get their kickbacks or the world is required to fall into unending despair and evilness....
[03:06:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fundamentally flawed concept - 06Ubuntu Linux Boss Mark Shuttleworth: Carrots for Unity 8? - 937 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:06:36] <exec> 08└─Most computer users don't open programs that way on their desktop computers. They look at a gird of icons and double-click the one they want, almost exactly the same as on a tablet! Your menu system isn't the most efficient for anyone nor the easiest for older users. You require precision mousing th...
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[04:00:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:00:52] <exec> 08└─I spend much of my day in a Ford Ranger, and average about 100 to 150 km each day. The truck is then parked overnight. If this isn't the perfect model for electric, I don't know what is. There are literally millions of similar vehicles out there that don't go long distances, travel predictable route...
[04:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 1654 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:53] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I was thinking electric pickups make sense for a lot of people. Many people in my area have a pickup that never even leaves the property. Ranchers and farmers often keep a work truck, the MIGHT be driven to town on a rare occassion. Generally, they are diesel powered, heavy duty work trucks. R...
[04:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 998 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:56] <exec> 08└─truck drivers simply aren't driving 1200 and more miles per day. Depends on the driving model the drivers are using. Team drivers could probably easily do that. Typical long haul is 500-700 depending on the truck and laws. Before the rule changes it was not uncommon to see 1400+ hours on trucks per...
[04:00:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:00:58] <exec> 08└─"Before the rule changes" Exactly. I've mentioned a couple times that I drove truck, myself. I didn't exactly observe the hours of service rules, and often exceeded "legal" limits. But, today, the trucks are all computerized, and they tattle on you. If you're legal, you often get waved by the weigh...
[04:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:00] <exec> 08└─"local drivers" for certain values of "local". It's surprising how the rules can be bent, sometimes.
[04:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 596 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:01:02] <exec> 08└─I need a truck to carry an honest ton of hauled mass, not marketing numbers, over rough terrain (mud, slopes well over 20 degrees, holes big enough for a sleeping mastiff, ice, rocks) as well as take them to and from town with a 300 mile round trip, while giving me heat and/or air conditioning, and...
[04:01:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03choose another one [515] 02Re:Wrong conclusion. Also probably wrong... - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 618 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:51] <exec> 08└─Given that half the CP on the dark web is/was reckoned to be run by the FBI (and other law enforcement probably run part of the rest) - see e.g. https://thenextweb.com [thenextweb.com] it is very likely...
[04:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:53] <exec> 08└─Would be funny to see the FBI bust the FBI for running child porn sites, but will that happen? ;)
[04:01:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:A fifth of filth - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:01:59] <exec> 08└─Loli haet pizza :(
[04:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Forbes page - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:02:10] <exec> 08└─Hmmm... elinks had no issue showing the text. What code are you talking about?
[04:03:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why backdoored encryption is a bad idea ... - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:03:40] <exec> 08└─ediii doesn't care what you meant your words triggered him so he had to get his generic rant out
[04:03:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03c0lo [156] (Score:2) 02Re:Two Words... - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:00] <exec> 08└─There appears to be no way to fix this problem.
[04:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02correspondence bias - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:04:01] <exec> 08└─And there you have it. If the data and software is so super sensitive, why are you using contractors?
[04:05:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Just do debian. - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 175 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:25] <exec> 08└─At work we pin systemd to -1 in an apt preference file (pushed out via puppet), and it works fine on all our jessie hosts. A little concerned about stretch and beyond, though.
[04:05:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Yog-Yogguth [1862] (Score:2) 02Re:Just do debian. - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 285 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:05:42] <exec> 08└─Very good advice except the very last part which I'm not sure I understood because sometimes wild geese will lead you to the answer/solution, especially if it's a really hard problem way above your "paygrade". But I still think I didn't get what you meant to say in your last sentence.
[04:05:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Subsentient [1111] (Score:2) 02Re:Slack or OpenBSD - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:06:00] <exec> 08└─Are you sure of that? OpenBSD's name is built entirely upon the idea of security. I'd find it hard to believe they're that unsophisticated.
[04:07:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Fundamentally flawed concept - 06Ubuntu Linux Boss Mark Shuttleworth: Carrots for Unity 8? - 583 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:07:05] <exec> 08└─That's solved by having a few, perhaps half a dozen, icons on the desktop or phone/tablets screen such as games, internet, utilities, help, etc that when clicked open another window, full screen on a phone/tablet, containing more icons representing programs or another layer such as types of games. T...
[04:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Nudge phase - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:45] <exec> 08└─All the time I see cars waiting for nothing, no traffic passing through the intersection, because the traffic light is red on the road that actually has the traffic at the moment, while the road with the green light is empty.
[04:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some do, some don't - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:49] <exec> 08└─While some of the more idiotic ones may have suicided (you didn't apparently, so not literally all the idiots did). A lot of them literally moved back home with mum and dad, like literally for real, moved back home with mum and dad when they literally couldn't bear the cost any more.
[04:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some do, some don't - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 124 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:08:51] <exec> 08└─So, this is kind of off-topic, but you're off on the idea of what "unbearable" means. It's not a synonym for "unaffordable".
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[05:00:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Ewww.... - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 21 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:49] <exec> 08└─Cosmic ejaculation!!!
[05:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:00:51] <exec> 08└─I see the eds were doing their jobs on this one! All trace of "supersonic" in the description of the cloud has been removed, except in the URL. Super-sonic: above sound. And the speed of sound is? Mach something? Let's see, 120 kilometres per second is about 26,8432 MPH, or about 349.854 times the s...
[05:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03richtopia [3160] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:03] <exec> 08└─It already existed: https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] I seem to remember it being relatively popular, particularly with commercial operators who use the truck for local transport.
[05:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:05] <exec> 08└─> ... to and from town with a 300 mile round trip, ... OK, where do you live, where all these requirements are combined?
[05:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:01:08] <exec> 08└─Duh!... obviously, next door to Big Foot!
[05:04:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Good job, NSA - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:04:00] <exec> 08└─Maybe its not them, maybe its management like every other industry. Them MBAs sure like to outsource and sub-contract out! Accountability Ninja 101...
[05:06:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02gentoo clang+libc++? - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 1000 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:06] <exec> 08└─I just got through rebuilding a system with it and libc++abi+libunwind as the abi backend. Works fine, and apparently according to the libcxx website, it is also possible to compile against it with gcc (no specific version mentioned, although it may be 4.8+). Requires setting up environment flags fo...
[05:06:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02introspection mandatory for some software. - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:06:11] <exec> 08└─I don't remember exactly what it is supposed to do, but it provides standardized ways to poke at certain glib/gtk/etc objects in a consistent manner. That said, it has been a huge PITA for me in the past since some packages only worked with one particular version of glib or introspection or what hav...
[05:08:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pino P [4721] (Score:2) 02Buy Internet, get TV free - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 56 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:08:50] <exec> 08└─Dropping the fucking cable tv can save thousands a year.
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[06:01:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:02] <exec> 08└─Just call it hypersonic.
[06:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Oh noes... - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:01:03] <exec> 08└─mantrid drones [wikia.com]..
[06:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 5 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:16] <exec> 08└─Good.
[06:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:22] <exec> 08└─Sounds like a farm truck that never leaves the property (except on rare occasions like the poster above mentioned).
[06:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Librem laptop... - 06Librem 13 Coreboot Report - February 3rd, 2017: It's Alive! - 660 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:01:43] <exec> 08└─Was a hyper project to promise an 'open source laptop' that wasn't actually open source. The firmware still relies on tons of Intel signed firmware blobs, much of the hardware in it was firmware blobbed, even though alternatives existed at the time of release, etc. It was basically the notebook equi...
[06:03:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 224 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:00] <exec> 08└─Because being malicious is not intelligent. I leaves only negative sum games for you to play and you cannot win every time. So you wind up with less that what was possible. That is unintelligent. And the basis of capitalism.
[06:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Demena [5637] (Score:1) 02Re:Redefine "AI" - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 309 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:03:28] <exec> 08└─AI is not real. That is true. I could argue from authority but I do not wish to disclose. "boils down to....". That bit is false. It goes to deep nowadays. Both hardware and software have been produced that is _almost_ beyond analysis. No way was it "programmed". True AI is possible but we are far f...
[06:08:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Cost vs value - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 581 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:08:49] <exec> 08└─I don't know about the wider world, but my family in the 1970s spent about 2.5x one annual income on a new home - it was 1400 square feet 3/2. In the early 1990s, I spent about 2.5x of my annual income on an old home in a big city - it was about 1200sf 2/1. 4 years ago, I spent about 2x of my annual...
[06:09:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some do, some don't - 06The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:09:11] <exec> 08└─You are mistaking effect for cause.
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[07:00:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Uber is like Google - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:00:53] <exec> 08└─Uber is like Google without the search and ad business.
[07:01:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 405 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:04] <exec> 08└─Mach speed is defined as speed of sound. [wikipedia.org] Ergo, the speed of sound is Mach 1, by definition. How you (or Google) got different numbers when converting "times the speed of sound" to a Mach number, I have no idea :) Also, converting 120 km/s (two significant digits) to 26.8432 mph (6 si...
[07:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:01:06] <exec> 08└─The speed of sound depends on the gas pressure and other parameters (temperature, molar mass). If you don't know those, you can't specify a Mach number.
[07:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Wake me up when it works - 06Librem 13 Coreboot Report - February 3rd, 2017: It's Alive! - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:01:46] <exec> 08└─'Nuff said.
[07:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Parallel construction is a thing - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:09] <exec> 08└─You assume that the defense is competent, and cognizant of this interweb thingy.
[07:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 68 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:15] <exec> 08└─At best you're chasing unicorns. At worst, you'll never be a lawyer.
[07:02:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02What the Mitnick?! - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 279 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:02:34] <exec> 08└─According to Reuters, the judge ruled there is no "meaningful interference" with the account holder's "possessory interest", going on to assert that any privacy infringement occurs "at the time of disclosure in the United States", rather than when the data itself is transferred.
[07:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Evil vs. evil - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 1350 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:02:54] <exec> 08└─Yes, why would Google/Alphabet oppose the immigration ban, if not for sinister reasons? After all, only 50% of Google founders [wikipedia.org] are immigrants. Why would Apple oppose the immigration ban, if not for sinister reasons? After all, only 50% of Steve Jobs' parents [wikipedia.org] were immi...
[07:06:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03NCommander [2] (Score:2) 02Re:Slack or OpenBSD - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:06:23] <exec> 08└─My problem is I've long considered the kernel itself to be rather batty as well, though not to the extent of some of the other stuff in the stack. I've never liked doing Linux kernel development, and I felt that stepping into LKML is a good way to be shot.
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[08:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Shimitar [4208] (Score:2) 02Good for taxis... - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 196 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:55] <exec> 08└─Well, when they start talking about fliying cars it's a clear sign they made too much money and they are out of touch with reality. After all taxi drivers will win down the line. I am a bit sorry.
[08:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Just to Clarify - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:00:56] <exec> 08└─Company whose entire business model is based on not owning any vehicles is going to start building flying cars.
[08:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Appalbarry [66] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 4 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:01:25] <exec> 08└─Wow!
[08:06:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedBear [1734] (Score:2) 02Re:Slack or OpenBSD - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:29] <exec> 08└─Are you sure of that? OpenBSD's name is built entirely upon the idea of security. I'd find it hard to believe they're that unsophisticated.
[08:06:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dr Spin [5239] (Score:2) 02Re:Slack or OpenBSD - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:06:30] <exec> 08└─I think you are wrong about OpenBSD - just because it does not use the word "jails" does not mean the concept is not there. Try OpenBSD on Oracle T series hardware if you want high throughput and isolation of components (databases in different domains, and server in another different domain, and har...
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[09:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 157 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:13] <exec> 08└─Well, this cloud is traveling through interstellar space, so the calculations for a Mach number should be pretty easy! In space, no one can hear you speed!
[09:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:01:15] <exec> 08└─Super-sonic: above sound. And the speed of sound is?
[09:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Tax forms.... - 06Shopping for W2s, Tax Data on the Dark Web - 1818 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:01:42] <exec> 08└─One thing that has really been getting my goat is the complexity of filling out personal income tax forms. They no longer even provide forms at the post office or library. Its becoming more and more mandatory that I have professional help in tax preparation. Geez, I am over 65, retired. No signifi...
[09:02:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03hemocyanin [186] (Score:2) 02Re:The court is playing word games - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:02:51] <exec> 08└─The moral of the story is simple: if you have important data, storing it with a company with any physical presence in the US whatsoever, is moronic.
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[10:00:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02On Animal rights.... - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 1785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:00:54] <exec> 08└─Remember, to some people, a lot of us are animals. If we can get people used to cruelty, it will be also turned on us - that is for anyone who isn't part of the "in" crowd calling the shots. First, I suppose it will be gays and transsexuals..... then it will be anyone outside the established religio...
[10:01:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02The attack: PKI is hard - 06Dozens of Popular iOS Apps Vulnerable to Intercept of TLS-Protected Data - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:01] <exec> 08└─From Strafach's blog: I will be posting details of the connections and data which I was able to fully confirm as vulnerable using a live iPhone running iOS 10 and a “malicious” proxy to insert an invalid TLS certificate into the connection for testing.
[10:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Gases? Why not rocks? - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 957 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:01:26] <exec> 08└─If the end result of star fusion is mostly iron, and some stars explode when done, it only seems to me that there are likely areas of space filled with lots of left-over rock fragments loosely held together by gravity, but kept separated by the rotational inertia/centrifugal force of the donor star...
[10:08:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03FakeBeldin [3360] (Score:2) 02Cool news! - 06West Europe Pressure Anomaly Could Lead to Enhanced Forecasting of Extreme Wave Conditions - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:08:05] <exec> 08└─This is pretty cool! Science coming up with better methods to understand what's happening around us and to help us make predictions to keep us safe. What's also cool (to me) is that notwithstanding previous research, we may have found a new method that is a vast improvement, not a small step.
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[11:00:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 027000 years ago? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 144 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:00:46] <exec> 08└─Cue the young earth creationists … creation of the sun certainly was a major event, more dramatic than anything that happened to it later! ;-)
[11:00:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:7000 years ago? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 184 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:00:48] <exec> 08└─No but it's quite possible, that a sudden dimming of the sun and then brightening a few years later might be captured in the mythology of the time. I'm thinking of frost giants myself.
[11:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Geezer [511] (Score:2) 02Motive Singularity - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 364 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:01:12] <exec> 08└─I predict that in 10 years or less, all small vehicles will be autonomous electric flying pods jointly built and operated by Uber, Tesla, and Amazon that will efficiently deliver people and products anywhere, any time with multimedia support from Comcast and productivity connectivity by Microsoft. C...
[11:01:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Unixnut [5779] (Score:2) 02Re:Motive Singularity - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:13] <exec> 08└─> physician-assisted suicide will become commonplace. Whether you asked to be suicided or not, depending of course on how useful you are to the elites, or how much of a nuisance to them you are, respectively. Me... a pessimist? Never! Just extrapolating current reality forward.
[11:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:01:28] <exec> 08└─Our eds may whip out the Alzheimer's Cock once in a while but changing the quoted text of a story is decidedly outside their mandate.
[11:04:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03moondoctor [2963] (Score:1) 02Re:Redefine "AI" - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 801 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:04:01] <exec> 08└─Tue, that's all a given. The whole 'neural network' thing doesn't really mean that much to me. Neurons use chemicals and electricity and who knows what to do many things simultaneously. Computers track 1s and 0s. Like trying to do an oil painting with charcoals if you ask me. We don't know what cons...
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[12:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03lx [1915] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:On Animal rights.... - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:10] <exec> 08└─In my experience so called laziness is either an expression of fear or a silent protest against an unfair situation.
[12:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Why not - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:26] <exec> 08└─Let's just keep pissing money away. If we need more there are always plenty of suckers on Wall St. who will rush to buy stock.
[12:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:01:46] <exec> 08└─The cause of this cloud's ridiculous speed isn't clear
[12:04:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:04:10] <exec> 08└─They DID choose: idiot 2 Trumped idiot 1!
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[13:00:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:7000 years ago? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 27 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:00:59] <exec> 08└─Or a 40 day deluge of rain?
[13:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:On Animal rights.... - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 50 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:09] <exec> 08└─Remember, to some people, a lot of us are animals.
[13:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Just to Clarify - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:27] <exec> 08└─They were going to be switching their business model to own cars anyway... driverless ones. If they fly, they will be pilotless.
[13:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:44] <exec> 08└─In space, no one can hear you speed!
[13:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Gases? Why not rocks? - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:01:50] <exec> 08└─The thing is, the debris after a star explodes has its own gravity as well, and because of gravity it will tend to coalesce to form actual planets, unless it’s inside the stellar remnant’s Roche limit, which is actually not that big. For a neutron star and rocky stuff that’s something like a m...
[13:05:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Money - 06Georgia Tests New Solar Road - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:05:31] <exec> 08└─As far as the roofs go, the panels they put on the ground are on struts anyway, so if you're going to make a roof you use slightly longer struts. At least in terms of cost and effort it's about the same deal. If a tornado, say, hit then you'd have a lot of debris to clear off the highway anyway, so...
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[13:07:00] <exec> 08└─You can't uninstall systemd from Debian since many years ago.
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[14:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Model failure - 06Game Theory in Practice - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:03] <exec> 08└─Reinier van Oosten of Decide, a Dutch firm that models political negotiations and vote-trading in European Union institutions, notes that forecasts go astray when people unexpectedly give in to "non-rational emotions", such as hatred, rather than pursuing what is apparently in their best interests.
[14:01:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Well Duh - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 533 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:11] <exec> 08└─Video games do guilt better because you, the player, are responsible for doing bad things. Studies have found that most players actually will reload to an earlier save and go take another option because they tried the evil one and felt bad about it afterwards. Many people will enjoy some cartoonish...
[14:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why only the sun? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 334 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:22] <exec> 08└─Aren't there other sources of c-14? The above-ground nuclear tests that occurred in several countries between 1955 and 1980 (see nuclear test list) dramatically increased the amount of carbon-14 in the atmosphere and subsequently in the biosphere; after the tests ended, the atmospheric concentration...
[14:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Help with research? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 3407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:01:23] <exec> 08└─I saw this in the queue and hit google yesterday, hard, trying to find 7000 year old supernova remnants. Unsuccessfully. I was hoping to find some research papers dating prehistorical supernovas by looking at an astrophotograpy pix of the remains of a supernova from 1900, then comparing to an astrop...
[14:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:On Animal rights.... - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:01:34] <exec> 08└─Cruelty is already accepted as a form of punishment for criminals (prison conditions, solitary confinement, prison rape, etc.) and some people suspected of criminal activity.
[14:02:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 37 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:13] <exec> 08└─In space, nobody can hear you scream.
[14:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tax forms.... - 06Shopping for W2s, Tax Data on the Dark Web - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:02:43] <exec> 08└─One could argue that the complexity of the federal tax filing process is because the tax preparation companies are in bed with the government.
[14:04:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:04:30] <exec> 08└─That's why representative democracy is better than direct democracy. In direct democracy, all of us decide. In representative democracy, one of us (or rather, some of us) decide. Since none of us is as dumb as all of us, no matter whom we vote for, they'll do the job better than we would do it toget...
[14:05:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:People don't hate Computers... - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 273 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:05:06] <exec> 08└─A solution would be to have more verbose programming languages, where little errors are likely to cause compile errors instead of malfunctioning code. However few programmers would enjoy statements like Now set foo to the sum of bar and the product of baz and qux, please.
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[15:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02And their failures? - 06Game Theory in Practice - 489 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:15] <exec> 08└─Since we never hear about their failures (where predictions don't come true, where unexpected items occur that weren't in their models,) and since there is no *quantification* of the success rate or methods to compare to a control, stories of simulations like this should be lumped in with astrology....
[15:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well Duh - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:23] <exec> 08└─On the other hand how is a film or TV show supposed to make me, the viewer, feel guilty for anything other than wasting my time if the show was disappointing?
[15:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Murder Simulators - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:01:25] <exec> 08└─Video games do guilt better because you, the player, are responsible for doing bad things.
[15:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02old dogs, new forms - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 737 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:28] <exec> 08└─Ebert's dismissive and disparaging attitude towards a new art form is all too typical. Video games started having great original music in the 1980s. Many early games simply used classical music, sometimes pop, but some experimented with original music that wasn't completely awful. What I found espec...
[15:01:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fishscene [4361] (Score:2) 02I'm confused... - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 424 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:01:39] <exec> 08└─When I have stories of 1 or 2 things that happen to me and I share, I'm pointed out for just having anecdotal evidence. ...but if someone takes one sample from a specific location and has it analyzed at 3 different labs, we have have articles asking what happened to the sun during that year? Am I mi...
[15:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Motive Singularity - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 371 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:02:12] <exec> 08└─This sounds great, I hope everyone else takes to the air...because I like to drive and bicycle. I already live in an area with relatively low traffic, and I look forward to enjoying empty roads in the future! ...Meanwhile, back in the real world, I agree with other posters that Uber is wasting money...
[15:07:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Just do debian. - 06Advice Wanted: The Underlying OS for soylentnews.org - 2328 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:07:47] <exec> 08└─I've worked "with" Mordac the Preventer on a couple occasions over the past decades and say you want a dude to add a DNS record and dude wants to play Quake or WoW or pokemon go or Facebook instead, then rather than spending 60 seconds adding your DNS A record you'll get enormous feedback asking if...
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[16:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Doesn't affect me personally. - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:15] <exec> 08└─I only have sex with female monkeys.
[16:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Gel? - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 822 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:16] <exec> 08└─Gel to prevent sex and the resulting pregnancy. I'm thinking gels can be too slippery. Think outside the box (literally maybe) If you just want to prevent sex I'm thinking a nice collection of linux install CDs might work (I had a girlfriend who picked one up and asked what those guys sound like, I...
[16:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Gel? - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:18] <exec> 08└─Or it would be a new flavor of beer.
[16:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:Gel? - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:21] <exec> 08└─To be fair, "injected into the tubes" sounds less bad than "cut the tubs and cauterize the ends". I'm... still going to pass though.
[16:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Flamebait) 02LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:23] <exec> 08└─The moment I read "injected," I knew this would fail. You straight guys have fun. I'm sure before long there will be lots of social messaging from liberals and SJWs telling you that you're a bad person if you don't get the injection.
[16:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And their failures? - 06Game Theory in Practice - 218 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:33] <exec> 08└─It certainly would be possible to measure the success rate if the researcher kept track of all of his predictions (failures and successes). In other words, this could be science, but there is much more work to be done.
[16:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03YeaWhatevs [5623] (Score:1) 02Didn't Yogi Berra have something to say about that - 06Game Theory in Practice - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:35] <exec> 08└─Oh yea, here it is: In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.
[16:01:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02Evil acts... - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:01:47] <exec> 08└─Video games do guilt better because you, the player, are responsible for doing bad things.
[16:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Don't believe either side too much... - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 1061 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:50] <exec> 08└─First, Ebert was a film guy. He had no real right looking at an expressive form he self-admittedly never engaged in and still offer critique. (And more than once I thought I detected some real flash of jealousy at this upstart thing which didn't exist at the start of his career, that very definitely...
[16:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Pls define art first. - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 1279 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:01:52] <exec> 08└─For what I am concerned, art is whatever action is done, in alternative or in addition to actual functionality, that has an objective linked to the experience of the product of the action itself. In other words, the decoration on a decorated steel gate is art. A sport exhaust on a normal car is art....
[16:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:Why only the sun? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 856 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:03] <exec> 08└─I wonder how common it is for a natural fission reactor to actually explode above ground though? Because it seems like that would be the only way you'd get rapid spike in C14 levels. My understanding is that they typically occur rather far underground. Another option is that the Earth was subjected...
[16:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Help with research? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 246 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:06] <exec> 08└─Such positive views of the universe. Could have just been that the star made itself noticed and got hit with a dark forest attack. One would need to be pretty far advanced to risk making oneself known, not sure I want to meet that race \pessimest
[16:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Help with research? - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 1333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:08] <exec> 08└─Here's another weird sci fi plot... The universe being really big, the odds of two advanced civilizations being diametrically opposite to the Earth or the solar system or for that matter our galaxy is roughly equal to "1" isn't it? Therefore the assumption that the only SETI transmission we can rece...
[16:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 70 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:20] <exec> 08└─Seems that the current administration doesn't value "Open Government".
[16:02:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03donkeyhotay [2540] (Score:2) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 174 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:21] <exec> 08└─Good grief. Even TFS said this has been going on before the change in administrations. It's one thing to comment without reading TFA, but to comment without even reading TFS?
[16:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02another reason - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 212 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:02:23] <exec> 08└─another reason not to pay income tax. you are financially supporting the cover up of animal torture all over the country. add it to the long list of atrocities funding the degenerate ghouls in washington enables.
[16:02:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Motive Singularity - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:02:45] <exec> 08└─I think you mean government-assisted suicide will become commonplace.
[16:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03DmT [6439] (Score:1) 02message? - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 35 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:03:09] <exec> 08└─Is this a message from outer space?
[16:03:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 502 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:29] <exec> 08└─> ... electricity in the form of a three prong plug. Don't think you are going to get this from any light truck or car. They ride on rubber tires with little or no conductivity (just enough to dissipate some static charge) so I don't see how you expect to get a proper ground (earth in UK) for the th...
[16:03:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tax forms.... - 06Shopping for W2s, Tax Data on the Dark Web - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:03:38] <exec> 08└─I 've used jGnash for record keeping and Libreoffice Calc to do my taxes for the last few years. Haven't used Turbotax in decades.
[16:04:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 2278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:29] <exec> 08└─The police can't be sued for defamation, eh? But if you allege that I was responsible for the bone in the yard, and it is untrue, and I suffer harm because of it? I may not win, but you bet I have a prima facie case and can make you spend money on lawyers. Would I win? No, but I can. While we digres...
[16:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:The court is playing word games - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 358 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:04:52] <exec> 08└─That's exactly what I was trying to do. Come up with an analogy where something clearly illegal is washed through a series of two or more steps to make it seem legal. This is exactly what the court is ordering Google to do. Something that would break US, foreign or international laws. But if the cou...
[16:06:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Two Words... - 06Former NSA Contractor May Have Stolen 75% of TAO's Elite Hacking Tools - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:06:47] <exec> 08└─WTF? This is the stupidest post I've seen all day. The problem I'm talking about is Federal hiring, not the NSA. The Federal hiring problem spans the entire government. Closing the NSA, or any agency, isn't going to magically make the Federal government adopt sensible hiring and personnel-management...
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[17:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Interesting definition of "ample time" - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:05] <exec> 08└─but will leave them open for two additional weeks so that users will have ample time to
[17:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:06] <exec> 08└─I'm not familiar with IMDb's messaging boards... can somebody with more insight say what is going on? Is the messaging board environment truly toxic (and if so how... flaming? Doxing? Providing a platform for consumers to coordinate anti-elitist action?)? Is this a smokescreen for them wanting to cl...
[17:01:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 276 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:08] <exec> 08└─I guess the most upsetting thing an IMDB board can do to the movie scene is... honest reviews. Trolls and sh!tposters are everywhere and people get used to filter that out, but a honest review sticks. Reddit and others will be happy to pick up the slack. Maybe even this site?
[17:01:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 555 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:11] <exec> 08└─Bot I totally agree with your views on modern movies, but I think there's a separate section on IMDB for "audience reviews" that I'm guessing will still be staying. I do find it hilarious that sites like IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes have sections for Audience Reviews and Critic reviews where more often...
[17:01:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 347 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:13] <exec> 08└─Yeah, whats an IMDb? I guess I can look it up (and to be honest I think I know, but still have to verify), but it seems like what it is could have been provided as a definition in the foot of the submission. And my looking it up does no service to everyone else, who also need to do the same. Think o...
[17:01:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:15] <exec> 08└─Internet Movie Database https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[17:01:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:17] <exec> 08└─What is this internet thing again?
[17:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 967 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:19] <exec> 08└─They were created in an era of "Why, if we add social features, we'll become the next MySpace" back when MySpace was cool and not a punchline. Then they discovered that rather than providing them with a profitable free community they can stripmine for data, what they actually got was nobody wants to...
[17:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 3081 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:21] <exec> 08└─Then they discovered that rather than providing them with a profitable free community they can stripmine for data, what they actually got was nobody wants to pay for that worthless data and rather than getting a free community all they get is extra work erasing all the troll posts pointing out that...
[17:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 75 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:23] <exec> 08└─I think are quite valuable and I don't think they're likely to go anywhere.
[17:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02That's one less place... - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:26] <exec> 08└─...for Elizabeth Warren to spew her bile.
[17:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:That's one less place... - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:28] <exec> 08└─Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Er
[17:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 954 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:30] <exec> 08└─As movies become more formulaic, more repetitive endless sequel or remake of a copy, less risky and innovative, and retreat into shoveling crap, there is probably less to talk about. Imagine what it would have been like to have a IMDB back when Star Wars was released in 77 or 78 or whatever it was....
[17:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 2274 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:32] <exec> 08└─OH good example here: Imagine a discussion board for transistors where people used to talk about the exciting world of transistors from 1950 to perhaps 2000. The great conversion from germanium to silicon. The first epitaxials and the death of point contacts. Quantum weirdness with tunnel diodes whi...
[17:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Lagg [105] (Score:2) 02You're not pop science though - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 1420 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:34] <exec> 08└─I know that the raging nerds here (heh, says me) don't pay attention to hollywood and suits and all that crap but the reason is a whole lot more cynical than a "people are mean to each other :(" thing. It's because hollywood is making a shitton of money internationally with vapid content that other...
[17:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:You're not pop science though - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:36] <exec> 08└─> Imdb probably likes money too. The site is owned by Amazon, which also produces and distributes programming.
[17:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Unfortunate Trend - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 1870 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:39] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, local message boards and commenting systems are going the way of the dodo bird. It's a combination of companies no longer willing to invest the time and money required to properly set up and maintain message boards and/or commenting systems, and the majority of people spending most of...
[17:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 921 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:51] <exec> 08└─Dunno why you were modded flamebait. Somebody probably got triggered by "SJW." I'm likewise unaffected for a similar reason. Here are some of my predictions: - Women will go for the social messaging you indicate while simultaneously continuing to discourage each other from taking a temporary pill. -...
[17:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 709 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:52] <exec> 08└─I should add since there are so many brainwashed fools out there: anybody who thinks for a damned second that women really want abortion legal is, well, a brainwashed fool. They want abortion to be illegal for the precise reason that they have everything to gain and the guy has everything to lose wh...
[17:01:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 302 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:01:54] <exec> 08└─I assume that it was necessary to obtain from the primates, semen samples to do sperm count and quality analysis during these studies. So now I'm curious. How was that done? Do the primates learn to eject it into a sample cup? Who teaches them that trick? Or are the samples obtained in some other wa...
[17:01:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03slinches [5049] (Score:2) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:01:56] <exec> 08└─As far as I'm aware, no samples were taken. They put the male monkeys they treated in an enclosure with female monkeys for a couple of years and checked to verify that didn't result in any new monkeys.
[17:02:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Does it matter? - 06Game Theory in Practice - 884 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:02:08] <exec> 08└─I'm reminded of the con job where you can predict the results of the Super Bowl with 100% accuracy. You start with a huge population and split it in two. You tell half of them Team A will win, and half of them Team B will win. Naturally you will be correct for one of the groups. Take that group you...
[17:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Does it matter? - 06Game Theory in Practice - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:09] <exec> 08└─Speaking of cons, Mr. Good Mosque sounds rather odd. Just run his name through google translate.
[17:02:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Murder Simulators - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:20] <exec> 08└─He should feel guilty for that. See? They cause guilt yet again!
[17:02:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Well Duh - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 2978 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:23] <exec> 08└─I can't say I have had a moral quandry when playing a game. There are times I get bored and see if I can lay waste to entire communitites. Then I reload, since I do not want such actions affecting my progress. It's a game. There is no AI asking me if I want to play chess instead, but if there was, i...
[17:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm confused... - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 1645 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:42] <exec> 08└─There's not a whole lot of alternative explanations. They're looking at the ratio of C14 to C13 in the wood. Trees don't care about the particular isotope of carbon they're using to grow new wood, so the ratio of C14 to C13 in the new wood will be the same as is present in the atmospheric CO2 it's b...
[17:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02as an animal, kill or be killed - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 889 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:55] <exec> 08└─The gays and transsexuals will be thrown from buildings because we failed to stop a muslim demographic replacement. Anyone outside the established religion (which will be islam because we didn't KILL KILL KILL to stop it) will become a slave (literally!) or killed. Mostly, females become sex slaves...
[17:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:02:58] <exec> 08└─Both of the previous two administrations, from different parties, didn't give us full details about the government's officially blessed torture programs. Shouldn't they also protect us from animal welfare reports? Maybe for the same underlying reasons?
[17:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:03:43] <exec> 08└─Parsec isn't speed; it's distance. In the EU they explained it as taking a closer route past black holes.
[17:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Tax forms.... - 06Shopping for W2s, Tax Data on the Dark Web - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:16] <exec> 08└─I wonder if this would prove useful? https://sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]
[17:04:44] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03edIII [791] 02Re:Good Work - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 1493 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:04:44] <exec> 08└─Abso-fucking-lutely. There is a combination of Unaoil and the Panama Papers in Donald Trump's activities. This administration is the epitome of a "pay-to-play" presidency that was the primary existential threat posed by Hillary and her supporters. Except, now Trump is giving the position of Secretar...
[17:05:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The court is playing word games - 06Google Told to Hand Over Foreign Emails in FBI Search Warrant Ruling - 872 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:05:29] <exec> 08└─This is it -- this is the lesson. If the government can compel to bring data into an arena where they are legally able to then seize it, there is no difference between it being elsewhere or here. This is merely a method to claim they did not break existing law, because they did not overstep their au...
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[18:01:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Touché) 02Because Right to Work laws weren't enough - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:18] <exec> 08└─Gotta find more ways to remove people from their jobs and/or provide cover for management.
[18:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 349 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:20] <exec> 08└─A prediction. Positions of Trust will expand. Today it is children, elderly, etc. Tomorrow it will be burger flippers, gas pump attendants, anyone at a cash register, anyone driving a car, etc. Other prediction: the definition will NOT expand to include: law enforcement, legislators, judges, preside...
[18:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:22] <exec> 08└─Of course, there are hundreds of ethical standards intended to apply specifically to elected officials, some explicitly listed in the constitution. Recent events have shown us that they will only be applied to political leaders who accept them willingly, not fascists.
[18:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02easy solution - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:24] <exec> 08└─Don't work in the U.S.
[18:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:01:26] <exec> 08└─Is there anyone that doesn't think we're in a full blown police state? Hell, even the banks are allowed to fingerprint you, but at least you can refuse them. Harder to refuse biometric tracking when your livelihood is on the line.
[18:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 943 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:41] <exec> 08└─sorry guys, i don't really read the reviews from poisoned wells unless they are phenomally bad or entertaining. Might have landeded there a few times. I mean -- I am not going to look up the reviews of star wars. I think I get the idea already. Anyway, my outlook was shaped on previous Internet Beha...
[18:01:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:43] <exec> 08└─If you are on the internet and are not aware of IMDb then you must live under a rock. If they mentioned Yahoo in the summary would you be asking why everyone is so excited?
[18:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 460 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:48] <exec> 08└─As I commented below, the traffic on message boards in general has steadily dropped for several years now. Unfortunately, most people are content with Facebook, Facebook groups, Google Plus, and Google Plus communities. With the dwindling traffic, meteoric rise of ad blocker usage, and dealing with...
[18:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:51] <exec> 08└─Google Plus, and Google Plus communities. This part sounds fishy to me. No one uses Google Plus except maybe the Linux kernel people. Google tried really hard to push it and it bombed.
[18:01:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:53] <exec> 08└─It's certainly not popular in general, but in certain circles it is. For whatever reason, Google Plus has a near stranglehold on tabletop gaming discussion and there's a lot of overlap with tabletop gamers and video gamers.
[18:01:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:01:55] <exec> 08└─There are also lots of photographers, as they had a great photos capability that has since been extracted out as a separate application. It's still quite well peopled though, with a passionate bunch of folks across a wide range of topics. I always likened it to wondering around at a party and joinin...
[18:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 1031 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:01] <exec> 08└─Imagine what it would have been like to have a IMDB back when Star Wars was released in 77 or 78 or whatever it was. Or the Charles Bronson vigilante era movies. Or the era of Dirty Harry movies. Or the era of the great Western epics. Interesting stuff used to happen in Hollywood movies. Not so much...
[18:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:03] <exec> 08└─As movies become more formulaic, more repetitive endless sequel or remake of a copy, less risky and innovative, and retreat into shoveling crap, there is probably less to talk about. Imagine what it would have been like to have a IMDB back when Star Wars was released in 77 or 78 or whatever it was....
[18:02:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Doesn't affect me personally. - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:15] <exec> 08└─Shut up Ethanol. Wednesday is date night.
[18:02:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Gel? - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:20] <exec> 08└─Just wait til you see the video of the doctor bouncing the bare testicle back and forth in his hands. EVERYTHING shrivels at that point. Don't know if its on youtube or not: i watched it on TV.
[18:02:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 426 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:25] <exec> 08└─You almost make it sound like all women are the same. You do realize, they are as different as men are? Like you and me. You're some kind of blathering douche, who doesn't much like women. I'm just an asocial asshole who happens to like women most of the time. See how very different we are? If you c...
[18:02:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 332 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:27] <exec> 08└─Not to worry - straight white males are already evil people, no matter what we do or don't do. There's no point in letting them shove a needle full of jello up my penis to convince them differently. Just look at the SIZE of the huge assed needle - it's bigger than most penises! (cue my obsessive adm...
[18:02:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:31] <exec> 08└─That is at best an indirect indication of whether the treatment was successful. Potential sources of error: * subject monkeys too stressed after procedure to copulate * subject monkeys not attracted to female monkeys in the enclosure * subject monkeys not attracted to any female monkeys whether or n...
[18:02:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:33] <exec> 08└─* female monkeys not interested in a male that has been experimented upon That's probably it. The gel smells like rotting meat, and the females don't want rotten sausage inserted into their vaginas. Makes sense to me.
[18:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:35] <exec> 08└─They filled out surveys, on the Internet.
[18:02:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 301 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:02:37] <exec> 08└─How would the monkeys have information about their fertility status in order to correctly fill out an internet survey? The monkeys would be aware that internet surveys require answers of the highest quality and accuracy because of the level of trust that so many place upon internet survey results. ...
[18:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 1715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:02:40] <exec> 08└─I have been following this since it was called RISUG and it was just a news blurb about an Indian scientist. This is something that really drives me crazy. Vasalgel is a game-changer; it gives men an equivalent control over their reproductive choices as women but it nobody seems interested in market...
[18:03:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02F*ckers - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 1416 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:03:08] <exec> 08└─I have had 'expressions of emotion' for both art AND video games: There was a 'piece of art' that one of the Canadian art gallery's bought for $millions that was just, if i remember correctly, two red stripes and a black stripe. $MILLIONS!!!!$ I swear that i swore after hearing and seeing that. Last...
[18:03:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm confused... - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 344 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:26] <exec> 08└─You seem to have left out a near-by nova. A slightly more distant supernova would leave more visible evidence, though it could also do the job, but nobody seems to have reported on such. OTOH, 7000 years (plus a few to allow for lag) doesn't give the nova much time to get out of the area, and I'm no...
[18:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03redneckmother [3597] (Score:1) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 280 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:41] <exec> 08└─Well... my point is: despite all the rhetoric about open govt and accountability during the election cycle, things are still the same (perhaps worse?). Other articles have noted the apparent "sanitizing" of *.gov, and restrictions on external communications. Sorry I wasn't clear.
[18:03:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:43] <exec> 08└─Well, no. The summary said the spokesman claimed that this had been in process already. He may not have been lying. The word of an official spokesman is not evidence either pro or con on any matter. He always has a vested interest...but sometimes he isn't lying.
[18:03:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:another reason - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:03:47] <exec> 08└─It is a reason. Whether it's a valid reason is up to you. And if you decide to do that, be sure to count the costs.
[18:07:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Bot [3902] (Score:2) 02Re:Ridiculous - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:07:03] <exec> 08└─>russian electors IIRC Everything can be said about the members of the null set.
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[19:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03tisI [5866] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:20] <exec> 08└─Yep. I was wondering when the "Imperial Seal of Trust", the sign of Imperial conditioning, will show up. Looking more dictatorial and/or Orwellian every day. Strange world.
[19:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 498 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:24] <exec> 08└─Everyone seems to be waiting to see if a dystopia really happens - but they can't see the one being built around them. At what point do the proles wake up, and realize, "Hey, it really is 1984!" Fact is, it may be worse than 1984. At least in the book, the proles were mostly immune to the state insa...
[19:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 558 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:26] <exec> 08└─I'll raise my hand, here. We have guns. Lots of guns. Trump wants us to have more, Big Brother wanted his constituents to have less. Ask yourself this question: Could all of the gun owners in your city overwhelm your local police force with sheer quantity of firepower? If yes, you and your neighbors...
[19:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Fascists - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 770 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:28] <exec> 08└─The world isn't perfect, bad things happen, and there is nothing that can be done to change that simple fact. These attempts at tracking individuals so closely have been tried before, and they lead to dictatorships and large scale evil. I'll take my chances with a hospice care worker and do my best...
[19:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03istartedi [123] (Score:2) 02Joke's on them - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 80 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:01:30] <exec> 08└─In a few years, a robot will do that job. It will just be tracking other robots.
[19:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 16 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:48] <exec> 08└─What's an Yahoo?
[19:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03kazzie [5309] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 223 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:50] <exec> 08└─I only learned about IMDB at university; unsurprisingly in a module about databases. It took a few lectures for me to realise that there really was such a thing, and that it wasn't a ficticious example used by our lecturer.
[19:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:52] <exec> 08└─Come on. IMDb is older than the World Wide Web! You honestly never heard of it?
[19:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:01:57] <exec> 08└─Whereas I agree hobbyist level sites are unkillable.
[19:02:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:03] <exec> 08└─The thing is, google pushed it so hard that it became a red flag for me. Without that I'd probably be using it.
[19:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:05] <exec> 08└─how is it a "troll" to state the truth?
[19:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 98 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:13] <exec> 08└─Avatar is a perfect example of what we like to say “Give me the same thing… only different!”
[19:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:35] <exec> 08└─Don't worry, you're never gonna get laid anyway.
[19:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:37] <exec> 08└─Yeah that insult lost its meaning in the 60s.
[19:02:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03cubancigar11 [330] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:39] <exec> 08└─Not the op ac btw.
[19:02:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:41] <exec> 08└─It will never lose its force, sorry. Some things are so basic to human biology they'll be as powerful as ever until biology itself changes. 10 gets you 1 OP-AC is, and describes himself as, an "incel."
[19:02:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:43] <exec> 08└─I will continue to be befuddled as to why anybody would date a woman.
[19:02:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 510 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:53] <exec> 08└─There might not be investors because they might simply not see an adequate market. Condoms are a very cheap substitute (that also prevents STDs) and the market share taken from vasectomies might not be large enough to pay for the clinical trials. A costly and invasive procedure, like the one describ...
[19:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 228 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:02:55] <exec> 08└─I think abortion, as a political football, will fall by the wayside as the number of abortions fall. Unfortunately, we've observed this to not be the case. U.S. Abortion Rate Falls To Lowest Level Since Roe v. Wade [npr.org]
[19:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Yer a psychohistorian Hari!! - 06Game Theory in Practice - 1769 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:03:10] <exec> 08└─Others are already pointing out the potential flaws and how this application of game theory is not perfect, of course its not! Reality can take a turn real quick at any time. However, that doesn't mean these models are garbage and you can bet your ass there are some secretive groups using these idea...
[19:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:old dogs, new forms - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 994 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:03:24] <exec> 08└─It's especially perplexing when so much of the video in a game or in a film are done with the same tools. Do film critics discount any film that uses special effects or CGI? If a film is entirely animated, do they not consider it art at all? If I recall correctly they loved The Yellow Submarine. The...
[19:04:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 264 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:03] <exec> 08└─One party's president banned torture. And the other's implemented it in the first place, and recently, repealed the ban. Your false equivalency is showing. Trump's Executive Actions Reverse Obama Policies on Torture, Healthcare & Guantánamo Bay [democracynow.org]
[19:04:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This doesn't sound like 'flying cars' - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 681 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:28] <exec> 08└─The article gives the impression of a semi-automated 'air train' service. People go to a certain location, board, and it takes you to another 'air train' station presumably where Uber will have driverless vehicles awaiting to take you to your final destination. This sounds a lot more practical, but...
[19:04:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:49] <exec> 08└─-1 ignorant
[19:04:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:51] <exec> 08└─+2 Irony! Ah, I love the smell of science in the morning! It smells like, . . . knowedge!
[19:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Really, really fast! - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:04:53] <exec> 08└─dude - your payment is late You said, "when I'm downmodded, you upmod me, and I'll keep bitcoin in your wallet" I've kept my end of the deal, but my wallet is empty.
[19:04:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score:2) 02One Of Our Planets Is Missing - 06Astronomers Spot a Strange Space Cloud Screeching Through Our Galaxy - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:04:59] <exec> 08└─http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/One_of_Our_Planets_Is_Missing_(episode) [wikia.com]
[19:05:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Electric Delivery Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 428 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:05:20] <exec> 08└─I saw electric delivery vans at the Bronx Zoo 5 years ago, but have not seen them since. Perhaps they haven't worked out the kinks yet. In theory it seems like a natural fit. Fuel costs have a significant effect on the bottom line of a shipping outfit. From the perspective of municipalities it makes...
[19:06:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Good Work - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 106 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:03] <exec> 08└─So we shouldn't investigate corruption in the highest office in the land because it might be hard. Gotcha.
[19:06:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Wrong conclusion. - 06Hack Knocks Out a Fifth of the Dark Web - 163 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:06:19] <exec> 08└─They're still acting as an agent of the government (even if they only do it once), whether official or not. Courts may accept this, but they are wrong in doing so.
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[20:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 1021 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:20] <exec> 08└─We've seen in years past how brownouts can happen during peak demand. Quite naturally, people bitch about brownouts. It's a sign of ineptitude that brownouts can happen. Here, we have an example of an industry building up infrastructure, that will insure that brownouts DON'T happen. I'm not defendin...
[20:01:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:21] <exec> 08└─"They are needlessly trying to attain a level of reliability that is a worst-case "act of God standard," he said."
[20:01:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 564 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:23] <exec> 08└─In my jurisdiction (Alberta), the power users (consumers+businesses) pay for the transmission infrastructure. However, the infrastructure is currently being over-built by something like 50% so that power can be exported. It is nothing but profit for the (deregulated) power companies. Consumer and bu...
[20:01:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:26] <exec> 08└─That's the typical "socialize the risk, privatize the profit" way of working that shows a government has been bought.
[20:01:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:28] <exec> 08└─Isn't that kinda like bitching that a water reservoir is to big? Or, that there is to much money in the bank?
[20:01:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Doesn't bother me.... - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:30] <exec> 08└─I have my solar system, which is grandfathered into NEM 1.0 for another 19 years. Any price increases just mean that the payback from my solar system is greater!
[20:01:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Uncle_Al [1108] (Score:2) 02ENRON - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:32] <exec> 08└─This is all blowback from the state getting screwed by ENRON and building out gas-fired peak demand plants for the summer. It wasn't that many years ago that California was just keeping up with peak demand. Slow down the economy, conserve, bring more solar and wind on line, and jack up rates (conver...
[20:01:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Act of God standard - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 78 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:01:34] <exec> 08└─Isn't an earthquake considered an act of God? Why plan for that in California?
[20:01:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 251 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:45] <exec> 08└─Elected officials are NOT positions of trust, because everyone knows they cannot be trusted, and nobody does trust them. Positions of Trust will also exclude other untrustworthy parties: CEOs, Lawyers, Lobbyists, US Press Secretary, and orange clowns.
[20:01:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:0, Flamebait) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:47] <exec> 08└─I was wondering when the "Imperial Seal of Trust", the sign of Imperial conditioning, will show up.
[20:01:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:49] <exec> 08└─anyone at a cash register
[20:01:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:52] <exec> 08└─The way they check for cash theft is by counting the cash drawer before and after shift. If the change does not match receipts within some small amount (like $3 after $10,000 in transactions); there is a problem. It is complicated if more than one person shares a cash drawer, but the principle is th...
[20:01:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 1308 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:01:57] <exec> 08└─I would speculate that if people recognize a police state while it is being built around them, it is already probably too late to do anything about it. I remember debating with a friend about the PATRIOT ACT back a freakin' decade and a half ago. I predicted this back then. I gave him, at the time t...
[20:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 1528 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:00] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure Trump is as positive about citizens having guns as you think. For example, he said this: * "The big thing that we're missing here is that people have to report when they see somebody. This man was pretty much unhinged. It was the gun store that did report him when he went in to buy a...
[20:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 453 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:02] <exec> 08└─And the reason that's a fantasy is that while you might be able to beat your local police force, while you were doing that the mayor called the governor who called in the National Guard, and your AR-15's (never mind your handguns and other smaller arms) do approximately jack squat against their tank...
[20:02:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:04] <exec> 08└─Honestly, i doubt we'll ever see a division of government and people so strong that one tries to destroy the other.
[20:02:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 589 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:06] <exec> 08└─Guns? GUNS...? Good luck with you pew-pew stick when they come at you with an MRAP [wikipedia.org] which your friendly police department managed to pick up for a good price at a surplus sale managed by the DoD. And when you do manage to 'overpower' your local police department, your elected represen...
[20:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:02:10] <exec> 08└─employers enrolled in federal and state Rap Back programs receive ongoing, real-time notifications and updates about their employees' run-ins with law enforcement
[20:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 956 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:13] <exec> 08└─Slippery slope! We keep trying to protect the world from a very small group of people that might do harm, but in doing so we violate the rights of almost everyone while creating a system that will further divide our society into classes. Background checks should be all that is required for some jobs...
[20:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 319 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:15] <exec> 08└─Whats "our core values" in a multicultural society? What about when "our core values" is nothing but we like money? Isn't game playing a valuable ability? In that case if we got 300M people and rising and 90M jobs and falling, then maybe good game players make the best workers? further divide our s...
[20:02:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:17] <exec> 08└─Of for... you'd be screaming bloody murder at this if it were a D in charge. What a bunch of partisan junk. Now watch somebody fly off the handle assuming I must, therefore, be on the D team. You don't see the mess you're all in now, but you will in perhaps 10 years. So its really a story about "Oh...
[20:02:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Interesting definition of "ample time" - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 187 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:29] <exec> 08└─Don't forget, anyone doing any serious archiving will probably get automatically banned by bot detection. Dem evil bots, gotta stop them all by destroying the internet one step at a time.
[20:02:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 213 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:33] <exec> 08└─Every time you see a film review on rotten tomatoes, the audience rating is usually a lot higher than the so-called critics. Not uncommon the see the audience review score a good 30 points higher than the critics.
[20:02:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 255 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:47] <exec> 08└─Interesting but not relevant. 19 years ago it was an early Amazon.com purchase and I checked and it still is. Its as solidly megacorporation as megacorporation can be. HP was started in a garage which has approximately nothing to do with anything in 2017.
[20:02:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:02:54] <exec> 08└─the troll posts pointing out that the female actress from Ghostbusters sucks.
[20:03:04] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Celestial [4891] 02Unfortunate Trend - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 1870 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:04] <exec> 08└─Unfortunately, local message boards and commenting systems are going the way of the dodo bird. It's a combination of companies no longer willing to invest the time and money required to properly set up and maintain message boards and/or commenting systems, and the majority of people spending most of...
[20:03:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It is about control - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 926 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:06] <exec> 08└─IMDB was told by a certain group to end their comment system so people cannot communicate using their website. Too many comment systems gives them technical challenges to track each commenter and cross-reference with other comments that user made in other places. Truth is the enemy of that group and...
[20:03:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:28] <exec> 08└─You're homosexual as well, right? Right back at you. I need a woman like a fish needs a bicycle. But maybe you need a good man in your life.
[20:03:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 22 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:30] <exec> 08└─Oh look, a deplorable.
[20:03:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2, Disagree) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:34] <exec> 08└─There's no point in letting them shove a needle full of jello up my penis to convince them differently.
[20:03:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:3, Funny) 02Re:Primate testing - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 139 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:42] <exec> 08└─They already considered this -- they used specially-bred 'survey monkeys' [surveymonkey.com] to ascertain the survey results were accurate.
[20:03:43] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] 02Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 1715 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:44] <exec> 08└─I have been following this since it was called RISUG and it was just a news blurb about an Indian scientist. This is something that really drives me crazy. Vasalgel is a game-changer; it gives men an equivalent control over their reproductive choices as women but it nobody seems interested in market...
[20:03:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 173 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:48] <exec> 08└─That alone would contribute a lot to ending the poverty cycle of teen pregnancies, where poor teenagers have children and then their own children have children as teenagers.
[20:03:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 241 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:03:50] <exec> 08└─Men are driven to spread their seed. Maybe the number of guys who want to block their little swimmers with injected gel is smaller than you think. Rationalize all you want, but things like life, death, and procreation have another dimension.
[20:03:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Disclaimer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:03:52] <exec> 08└─This was nothing to do with me. I'm wonkey_monkey, not wankey_monkey.
[20:04:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Re:Does it matter? - 06Game Theory in Practice - 220 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:05] <exec> 08└─Maybe he's family of this famous musician and actor in Tiroler sex films (don't google those if you value your eyes) [wikipedia.org]? Maybe they both descended from Sephardim [wikipedia.org] fleeing persecution in Spain?
[20:04:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:F*ckers - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 562 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:25] <exec> 08└─Have you played Stellaris yet? Just finished my xenophobic Trump campaign. Close the borders! Purge the Xenos! Ran "Information Quarantine" constantly and frequently "Reeducation Campaigns" on troublesome planets. We colonized a Tomb World and found a massive bunker hidden in a mountain. Opened it u...
[20:04:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:as an animal, kill or be killed - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 20 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:04:55] <exec> 08└─(Score:-1, Retarded)
[20:05:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:another reason - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 217 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:04] <exec> 08└─Ordinarily I'd expect it to cost more money to put information on a Web site, and maintain the site, than to delete that information or close down the site. I suppose it could be the other way around in a bureaucracy.
[20:05:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Motive Singularity - 06Uber Hires Veteran NASA Engineer to Develop Flying Cars - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:05:29] <exec> 08└─Concurrently, physician-assisted suicide will become commonplace.
[20:08:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03wonkey_monkey [279] (Score:2) 02Re:Redefine "AI" - 06The Real Threat is Machine Incompetence, Not Intelligence - 90 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:08:44] <exec> 08└─Computers track 1s and 0s. Like trying to do an oil painting with charcoals if you ask me.
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[21:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 256 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:04] <exec> 08└─I stopped reading when an auto-playing video popped up. Looks like I don't qualify anyway (living north of the boarder). I am fairly certain I bought at least one new DVD drive during that time. May even still have the receipt (the drive is 2m to my left).
[21:01:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03fadrian [3194] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:17] <exec> 08└─... and leaving money in the bank means it isn't being productively used. The interest you get paid for doing so says otherwise.
[21:01:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 987 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:19] <exec> 08└─"Infrastructure. You really can't overbuild infrastructure." This, this, and this. If California was without power for several days, it would cost the country untold amounts more than the electricity. " 21% more electricity than it needs by 2020" ?? Is that all?! I would say that is, if anything, a...
[21:01:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02TSA: You Can Never Be Too Safe!! - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:21] <exec> 08└─21% more electricity than it needs by 2020" ?? Is that all?! I would say that is, if anything, a conservative margin to give ourselves.
[21:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 1023 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:23] <exec> 08└─Shareholders often bitch about the company having too much money in the bank, or set aside for pensions, etc. Some people, such as Carl Icahn, enjoy "investing" in the company in order to suck all that "excess" cash out, by hook or by crook. As soon as they suck out that excess cash via dividends, c...
[21:01:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03jcross [4009] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 329 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:25] <exec> 08└─Plus, as I understand it the grid crosses state lines, and California power companies are perfectly able to sell excess capacity on the energy market. Now if they double-charge California customers for it that might be underhanded, but excess capacity by itself shouldn't be a complaint until it's a...
[21:01:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Violently Imposed Monopoly - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:29] <exec> 08└─This is all blowback from society organizing itself around a monopoly, especially one that is violently imposed.
[21:01:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Act of God standard - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 247 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:32] <exec> 08└─We'll harvest the power of the earthquake to compensate for Diablo Canyon blowing up! (If you missed it, Diablo Canyon is the last CA nuke plant, built on the coast less than 3 miles from two different faults. The closest one was discovered later)
[21:01:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03its_gonna_be_yuge! [6454] (Score:1) 02California still owes money to Canada for power - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 155 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:35] <exec> 08└─California still owes $3B to BC for the power exported from Canada to California when California didn't have enough power. Most of this was from Mica Dam.
[21:01:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:3, Interesting) 02$10 ? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:37] <exec> 08└─residential and business customers together pay $6.8 billion more for power .... over the next two decades,
[21:01:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03scruffybeard [533] (Score:2) 02Re:$10 ? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:39] <exec> 08└─The state's power plants are on track to be able to produce at least 21% more electricity than it needs by 2020
[21:01:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Awkward Asshole - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:41] <exec> 08└─The phrasing is really weird but I'm reading it as $6.8B over 20 years. Now California has 25 million Americans and 14 million Mexicans in it.
[21:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Informative) 02Diablo Canyon - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:44] <exec> 08└─There are plans to close, in 2024 and 2025, the two reactors at Diablo Canyon. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] According to its owner, the site accounted for 9.3% of the electricity generated in California in 2011, and 7% of the el...
[21:01:53] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 349 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:01:54] <exec> 08└─A prediction. Positions of Trust will expand. Today it is children, elderly, etc. Tomorrow it will be burger flippers, gas pump attendants, anyone at a cash register, anyone driving a car, etc. Other prediction: the definition will NOT expand to include: law enforcement, legislators, judges, preside...
[21:01:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:1, Redundant) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:01:58] <exec> 08└─I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. I know, I know, pot, kettle, etc. But... what's the point or thesis of this post?
[21:01:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:00] <exec> 08└─Of course, there are hundreds of ethical standards intended to apply specifically to elected officials, some explicitly listed in the constitution. Recent events have shown us that they will only be applied to political leaders who accept them willingly, not fascists.
[21:02:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:02] <exec> 08└─Article 1, Section 9, Clause 8 And the details of how having substantial foreign investments still under personal, private control represent an avenue for unconstitutional gifts to granted from a foreign power to an officer of the United States. You know exactly how that works.
[21:02:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:04] <exec> 08└─He appears to be currently accepting payments from foreign nationals.
[21:02:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 88 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:11] <exec> 08└─Yeah we did that at the supermarket I worked at as a starving student like 30 years ago.
[21:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 1245 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:13] <exec> 08└─Thats the way the grocery store I worked at was run 15 years ago. Drawer came out with exactly 200 dollars, periodically the book keeper would come and pull some cash from it, and then at the end of the night the book keeper counted the drawer down. You did not allow any one else to run on your draw...
[21:02:19] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 1528 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:20] <exec> 08└─I'm not so sure Trump is as positive about citizens having guns as you think. For example, he said this: * "The big thing that we're missing here is that people have to report when they see somebody. This man was pretty much unhinged. It was the gun store that did report him when he went in to buy a...
[21:02:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:24] <exec> 08└─Define "good cop", if you assert that a "good cop" willingly working for a police state isn't a problem. I don't think you mean "I only followed orders", because when the orders are wrong, that person is definitely a problem.
[21:02:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03linkdude64 [5482] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 3282 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:26] <exec> 08└─"So he seems to want reports of buying up lots of ammo and other supplies." Of suspicious individuals. What is a suspicious individual? Somebody who is deemed suspicious by the community. In a conservative area of Saudi Arabia, a white woman walking around in a bikini top and jean shorts would be co...
[21:02:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03https [5248] (Score:2) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 206 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:35] <exec> 08└─If you prevent the criminals from having jobs, take a wild guess what they're going to do to make ends meet. Your "better them than me?" approach suggests that you are quite happy being part of the problem.
[21:02:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 281 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:37] <exec> 08└─And you helpfully provided the alternative of increasing the level of criminality in the economic system, or rationing based on race, or what exactly? Maybe we're talking past each other where I provide the best solution to a bad situation and you say the situation is bad. yeah...
[21:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02jobs - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:40] <exec> 08└─Why do we have to ration jobs? What ever happened to the shorter work weeks we were promised since the 60's?
[21:02:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:jobs - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 321 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:42] <exec> 08└─A lot of things would be fixed if the economy were fixed, this topic merely being one of them. For example if there were a shortage of employees then you don't need your receptionist to have a bachelors degree or your construction laborer to have a TS clearance so however nice to have, its nicer to...
[21:02:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 438 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:56] <exec> 08└─Yeah, I think critics can be unfairly harsh in some of their ratings but I suppose the audience section is also a free for all for yet more shills, bots and astroturfers. That kind of contradicts my earlier point except that I think a lot of the best audience reviews are often better and more insigh...
[21:02:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 233 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:02:58] <exec> 08└─I'm sure shillbots and astroturfing happens, but there has always been a disconnect between what people who study film as a form of art (and end up working as critics) like, and what people who go see a movie every now and then like.
[21:03:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03rts008 [3001] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:06] <exec> 08└─Wrong question. Who is Yahoo...Serious, dude. ;-)
[21:03:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 25 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:10] <exec> 08└─What's an World Wide Web?
[21:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:12] <exec> 08└─Come on. IMDb is older than the World Wide Web! You honestly never heard of it?
[21:03:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:19] <exec> 08└─Interesting but not relevant.
[21:03:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 409 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:28] <exec> 08└─"There are plenty of troll posts on the ghostbusters page and their purpose wasn't to provide valid criticisms of the acting abilities. Trolling is about disruption and negative attention-whoring." That's true enough but trolls can't force this and haven't. At most they've become a convenient excuse...
[21:03:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:That's one less place... - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 114 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:03:33] <exec> 08└─She may a sad, pathetic but entertaining liar. But please PLEASE do not deprive us of kellyanne conway's rantings.
[21:04:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03iamjacksusername [1479] (Score:2) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:18] <exec> 08└─That's absolutely correct; no pharma wants to fund a new drug that is a one-time use per person per lifetime. There is not enough money in it. That's why Parsemus is set up as a social venture corporation. There is not a lot of long-term private profit in this; it is a "social good."
[21:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 1006 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:22] <exec> 08└─Yes, men are driven to spread their seed. But humans invest heavily in raising offspring. Men also have an incentive to not have to pay for all of the potential children they create. Thus they may pair up with one partner and invest in the fruits of that, yet also have affairs as opportunities to sp...
[21:04:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 694 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:24] <exec> 08└─It will be interesting to see how US culture reacts to birth control once it's something that's available to men. But IUDs [wikipedia.org] (extremely effective, long lasting, zero-effort after initial install birth control) already exist for women and offering them for free to teens [nytimes.com] ha...
[21:04:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03rleigh [4887] (Score:2) 02Re:Well Duh - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 1094 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:04:52] <exec> 08└─I do like moral decision making in games, particularly when the "correct" decision has an element of uncertainty, as in real life. It adds something. Some games (KOTOR, BioShock) are pretty black and white, and there's not much effort required other than deciding if you want to be good or evil. But...
[21:05:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:open govt? - 06USDA Removes Public Access to Animal Welfare Reports - 116 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:05:35] <exec> 08└─Both parties still kept it mostly a secret. Although some leaked under the party that banned it, it is still secret.
[21:06:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:Truck might be challenging - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 197 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:06:51] <exec> 08└─A floating supply can serve the same safety function as a grounded supply. What is important is that if the case gets energized, no current will flow through your body if you accidentally touch it.
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[22:00:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 99 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:55] <exec> 08└─1. Run a script blocker. 2. I gave you two other sites there. 3. Receipt not required. 4. USA! USA!
[22:00:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 367 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:57] <exec> 08└─Too bad that I don't qualify due to one of the requirements: You made this purchase while a resident of Arizona, California, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Caro...
[22:00:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:00:59] <exec> 08└─I find it hard to believe that people in Illinois could have been left out of a scam.
[22:01:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Horse-cart monopoly suit, finally settled - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 12 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:01:01] <exec> 08└─See subject.
[22:01:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03captain normal [2205] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:15] <exec> 08└─The interest the banks pay won't even cover the cost of inflation.
[22:01:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03NewNic [6420] (Score:2) 02Re:Excess power? - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 128 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:22] <exec> 08└─This. In fact CA already imports quite a lot of power from other states, so all it has to do is stop buying that imported power.
[22:01:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02*facepalm* - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 3 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:01:27] <exec> 08└─n/t
[22:02:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Funny) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 365 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:00] <exec> 08└─The average Roman citizen didn't see that Rome was falling, either. Not until the Barbarians entered their province and sacked them. (And that includes periods well after the sacking of Rome in 410.) I am sure that Odoacer and Theoderic each promised to Make Rome Great Again, too. And probably were...
[22:02:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03VLM [445] (Score:2) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 198 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:07] <exec> 08└─Although its kind of circular a good cop is the kind the snipers don't shoot because he's not in the subset of the worst of the cops, which is a positive feedback loop in several senses of the term.
[22:02:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anal Pumpernickel [776] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:10] <exec> 08└─We cannot have both Freedom and Society.
[22:02:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 1638 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:13] <exec> 08└─Yes. Guns. Were we to go there - and we are not there despite people's opinions IMVHO, and I am not advocating we go there.... I do NOT need to take out an MRAP. I would need to take out a mayor. Or a Senator or five. If said person is stupid enough... and they are... that is a capability for guns a...
[22:02:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Any skeptics left? - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 966 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:02:15] <exec> 08└─Speaking as a veteran who fought in Iraq, and whos primary job was finding and removing roadside bombs made by people living 50 years in the past, I am seriously surprised at how many people underestimate an insurgency. I am also seriously surprised at the number of people who think the government c...
[22:03:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03nethead [4970] (Score:2) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:11] <exec> 08└─Yes, I use to live and die by the ECG catalog.
[22:03:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 1083 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:14] <exec> 08└─> Just look at Game of Thrones. Very true, not to mention, Game of Thrones is actually quite long. Each episode is 1 hour. That is the low end of a feature film. I remember TV Series being 20-30 mins and generally of a lower production quality than feature films, but GoT? Exotic locations (check), l...
[22:03:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 777 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:18] <exec> 08└─I want to clarify that the list of movies I listed were each different in different ways. The Avatar example was one talking about technology, and how it was a pioneer in "good 3D." The story itself may have been lackluster. Much like how Frozen animation styles and techniques were fairly well estab...
[22:03:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Unfortunate Trend - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 66 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:23] <exec> 08└─It's a continuation of the trend of abolishing personal homepages.
[22:03:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 69 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:03:42] <exec> 08└─You heard it here first folks, occasionally Runaway swings both ways!
[22:04:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] 02Re:Total game-changer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 228 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:02] <exec> 08└─I think abortion, as a political football, will fall by the wayside as the number of abortions fall. Unfortunately, we've observed this to not be the case. U.S. Abortion Rate Falls To Lowest Level Since Roe v. Wade [npr.org]
[22:04:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Re:Yer a psychohistorian Hari!! - 06Game Theory in Practice - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:22] <exec> 08└─I mostly agree with your comments, even if do sound as a conspiracy theory because as you point out, it is a modern version of bread and circuses. Where I disagree is thinking it is carried by a single group with a single objective; I believe different groups do exist that wrangle for control of the...
[22:04:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Well Duh - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:37] <exec> 08└─I don't feel bad for the gazillions of little pixelmonsters I snuffed out. I'm like the Stalin, Pol-Pot or Hitler of pixelmassacres ...
[22:04:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't believe either side too much... - 06Video Games Do Guilt Better Than Any Other Art - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:04:42] <exec> 08└─Ebert did try making a film if I recall. It was abysmal, but he did. I'm talking even Uwe Boll looked at that film and felt superior.
[22:05:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Fishscene [4361] (Score:2) 02Re:I'm confused... - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 67 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:05:03] <exec> 08└─Your explanation was far more informative than the article. Thanks!
[22:06:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:Bring on the Small Trucks - 06Tesla Semi: Elon Musk Says They Are Making Progress With New Electric Semi Truck - 333 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:06:33] <exec> 08└─Many are basically 'in the middle of nowhere' and have little to no infrastructure other than a few tanker trucks that swing by to fill up the tanks. This is not a 220v plug and call it a day. They will need some heavy duty plugs and switching stations to handle peak usage which funny enough would e...
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[23:00:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Bad Title - 06Japanese Spacecraft's Experimental Tether Fails to Remove Space Junk - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:49] <exec> 08└─How about "Japanese Spacecraft's Experimental Tether Setback by Glitch" since we still have no idea whether the tether will work.
[23:00:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02They should have boosted it higher... - 06Japanese Spacecraft's Experimental Tether Fails to Remove Space Junk - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:00:50] <exec> 08└─...so the next mission would have some junk to grab.
[23:00:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:They should have boosted it higher... - 06Japanese Spacecraft's Experimental Tether Fails to Remove Space Junk - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:00:52] <exec> 08└─Only orange clowns grab someone's junk without consent.
[23:01:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Hyperturtle [2824] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 83 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:03] <exec> 08└─Bob, rather than vote you up I will reply to encourage everyone to do insightfully!
[23:01:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 1092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:05] <exec> 08└─Thank you for submitting the story. With scripting blocked, cnet.com pages are unreadable to me. This one renders as the following list of URLs for me (in my browser, all are clickable): https://www.cnet.com
[23:01:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03quacking duck [1395] (Score:2) 02Re:Meta: JS - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:07] <exec> 08└─At least Canadians got the $20 settlement per household for price fixing of computer memory a few years ago.
[23:01:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Snotnose [1623] (Score:2) 02Still waiting for my Levis settlement - 06DVD Drive Price Fixing Class Action Lawsuit Finally Settled - 268 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:10] <exec> 08└─Late 70s/early 80s Governor Deukmejian settled with Levis for overcharging, I was supposed to get something like $5/pair. Sent in my chit, I'm still waiting. I don't hold my breath on these class action clusterfu^h^h^h^h settlements for things you bought 10 years ago.
[23:01:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awkward Asshole - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 123 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:41] <exec> 08└─No, if you read the next two sentences you'll see he wasn't being racist. It was an important distinction to make. See? SEE
[23:01:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Awkward Asshole - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:43] <exec> 08└─Nope wrong bzzzt you fail. The correct response was (repeat with me!): American is not a race!
[23:01:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Consolation Prize for Having to Live As You - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 179 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:01:45] <exec> 08└─Now California has 25 million Americans and 14 million Mexicans in it. This sounds like a political statement but its what a google search resolving to a Pew research site claims.
[23:01:46] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03butthurt [6141] 02Diablo Canyon - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 451 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:47] <exec> 08└─There are plans to close, in 2024 and 2025, the two reactors at Diablo Canyon. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] According to its owner, the site accounted for 9.3% of the electricity generated in California in 2011, and 7% of the el...
[23:01:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02He's mistaken - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:49] <exec> 08└─They are needlessly trying to attain a level of reliability that is a worst-case "act of God standard," he said.
[23:01:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02So much fail - 06Californians Are Paying Billions for Power They Don't Need - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:01:51] <exec> 08└─It is hard to know where to start... Although California uses 2.6% less electricity annually from the power grid now than in 2008,
[23:02:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03ikanreed [3164] 02Re:Positions of Trust - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 268 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:02] <exec> 08└─Of course, there are hundreds of ethical standards intended to apply specifically to elected officials, some explicitly listed in the constitution. Recent events have shown us that they will only be applied to political leaders who accept them willingly, not fascists.
[23:02:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:35] <exec> 08└─We supposedly value freedom and equality. Obviously that is not even close to how it plays out in reality, but that is what many people believe the US stands for. We aren't bound together by common culture, we're bound together by the documents that structure our society. We have never been true to...
[23:02:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Security clearances - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 806 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:39] <exec> 08└─Your solution is a bad fix for a bad problem. Something better would be Universal Basic Income paired with shorter work days so that anyone who wants to work is able. If we can stop the massive war machine we've got going then we could allocate a ton of money from military programs to fund jobs that...
[23:02:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Who defines "bad guy?" - 06FBI is Building a National Watchlist That Gives Companies Real Time Updates on Employees - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:02:44] <exec> 08└─You're naive as hell if you think this won't be used politically. Who defines who falls into the "troublemaker" camp?
[23:03:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What is going on? - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:24] <exec> 08└─a convenient excuse for those who do not like free discussion
[23:03:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 548 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:37] <exec> 08└─The Save the Cat! books have been highly influential on screenwriters; besides outlining various stories which can be told, they go so far as to prescribe the amount of time that should be spent telling each part of those stories. Their popularity been criticised as leading to sameness among films....
[23:03:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Formula - 06IMDb Shutting Down Their Message Boards - 359 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:03:39] <exec> 08└─They have always been formulaic. Most of all media in all forms is. The main reason it seems not so, when looking further into the past, is the weaker less original examples have faded into obscurity. It also helps that the sheer volume of what gets made these days, and the ease it can be dis...
[23:04:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:03] <exec> 08└─I'm more surprised he admitted to being an asocial asshole, honestly...
[23:04:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 36 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:08] <exec> 08└─It will never lose its force, sorry.
[23:04:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 55 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:11] <exec> 08└─I've got some good men in my life :) Just...not my bed.
[23:04:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:LOL - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:17] <exec> 08└─(cue my obsessive admirer to make some comments here)
[23:04:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Disclaimer - 06Male Contraceptive Gel Passes Monkey Test - 34 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:04:34] <exec> 08└─You will never need birth control.
[23:05:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Another point about that 7000 years thing - 06What Happened to the Sun Over 7,000 Years Ago? - 211 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:05:21] <exec> 08└─TFS mentions Bristlecone Pine trees. While those are the oldest-known continuously-alive things, the oldest documented specimen is a skosh over 5000 years old. [wikipedia.org] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
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