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[00:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:100g spec released today - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 134 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:42:30] <exec> 08└─Half duplex? full duplex? Falls back to what speeds? And again, at half duplex, or full duplex? I am having trouble parsing your spec.
[00:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:17] <exec> 08└─I see your six quatloos and raise you some Timbits and a moose [ctvnews.ca].
[00:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:Moral of the Story - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:23] <exec> 08└─Is okay, the rich will have right-of-way over pedestrians and cyclists.
[00:43:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Aluminum foil - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 862 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:43:35] <exec> 08└─Not really. Figure 5 kilopixels wide, and square that for 25 Mpx (yes, that's a significant overestimate); at 60 fps, that's 25*60 = 1500 Mpx/s, or a pixel clock around 1.5 GHz (and, at 24 bits, 36Gb/s throughput). But the thing is, you can't drive that much data over VGA, DVI, or similar, where the...
[00:46:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:time to stop asking nicely. - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 497 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[00:46:25] <exec> 08└─If someones decides to shop in the quack aisle of the drug store, that's their responsibility. My wife happens to have a thing for Chinese medicine and sometimes buys those kinds of herbs, which are also unregulated. It's not my thing, but the 2015 Nobel Prize for medicine [nih.gov] recognized a mal...
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[01:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Before foreign invaders bearing biological weapons - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 204 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:28] <exec> 08└─We all know that tobacco will kill you, but how hard were they smoking those ceremonial pipes to cause climate change? Next time I see a coal roller, I'll thank him for honoring the memory of the natives.
[01:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Entropy [4228] (Score:2) 02Can we get 10G ethernet please? - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 169 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:41] <exec> 08└─It's still prohibitively expensive and most stuff runs on 1G which should have been replaced a decade ago. The economic downturn kinda screwed 10g, so what use is 25/50?
[01:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] (Score:2) 02So much for a specification! - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 1036 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[01:42:42] <exec> 08└─I went to the site, had a look around. What I noticed within seconds was logos of very commercial companies at the front page, prominently occupying a good portion of the page. Arista, Broadcom, Google, Mellanox, Microsoft. Of these I have no idea what Arista and Mellanox are, but I wildly guess the...
[01:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03dyingtolive [952] (Score:2) 02Re:cystic fibrosis isn't funny - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:19] <exec> 08└─By most accounts, it's the party that's not prevalent that would make such a decree. Residing rulers think it's totes fine long as you let the free market decide if you're funny or not, ya know, for better or worse.
[01:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Pslytely Psycho [1218] (Score:2) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 71 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:43:32] <exec> 08└─Quatloos? In mountainous, snowy Tamrial, er, Canada? More like Septims!
[01:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''blame management'' - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 586 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:00] <exec> 08└─my first instinct is ALWAYS to blame management. Maybe you've never heard of Dilbert "Muntzing" [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [wikipedia.org] Earl William "Madman" Muntz [...] developed a television chassis that produced an acceptable monochrome picture with 17 tubes. He often carried a pair of wi...
[01:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''why are we paying premium?'' - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 133 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:20] <exec> 08└─You've reminded me of the punchline of an old joke. What's this "we" shit, Paleface? [google.com] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[01:44:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''microwave ovens'' - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 103 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:44:25] <exec> 08└─For those who haven't yet seen the relevant XKCD: Nachos [xkcd.com] -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
[01:46:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03arslan [3462] (Score:2) 02Re:DNS Hijacking Sure... but Botnet? - 06Netgear Exploit Found in 31 Models Lets Hackers Add Your Router to a Botnet - 377 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:06] <exec> 08└─Ummm I dunno... the vulnerability is only with physical access. Remote access only if remote management is turned on, which is off by default. If you don't have remote management turned on and rely on physical security, it is not an issue. I would imagine most consumer homes are like that. If you're...
[01:46:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:time to stop asking nicely. - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 577 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:46:51] <exec> 08└─All they had to do was post actual tests or a reference to them. Death Monkey did find some actual FDA measurements posted seperately. Those do not support the theory that the tablets caused any adverse reactions. Personally, I'm glad that the FDA is limited, mostly in the area of herbal medicine. I...
[01:47:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03Sulla [5173] (Score:2) 02Re:Wall - 06Oxygen Ions From Earth Escape to the Moon - 45 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[01:47:16] <exec> 08└─What are they going to do? Throw rocks at us?
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[02:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Yay for trade - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:36] <exec> 08└─Now we have trade so people can eat, even when they live in drought conditions. If California gets too warm and dry for agriculture, it can buy food from Canada.
[02:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay for trade - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 180 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:38] <exec> 08└─Yay for logistics you mean. We can and have fed millions of people across continents in normally unsustainable conditions without any trade involved, notably during the world wars.
[02:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I knew it - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:42:40] <exec> 08└─It's those damn Indians driving their big SUVs that wiped them out. If they had only embraced renewables we'd all be speaking Algonquin right now.
[02:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we get 10G ethernet please? - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:42:53] <exec> 08└─They are also pushing 2.5/5 G. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] It can use existing cabling, which is a plus.
[02:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Immerman [3985] (Score:2) 02Re:cystic fibrosis isn't funny - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 355 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:43:32] <exec> 08└─We laugh to keep from crying. Go ahead, think of any truly funny joke that doesn't have some form of suffering at its heart. I recall a comedian/comedy-club owner's response to people's bafflement about Robin William's suicide, the essence being that comedians are as a rule miserable people who trot...
[02:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02What did they have, exactly? - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[02:45:42] <exec> 08└─A company comes up with a new or unique way of encoding some content. That company goes to Big Brother (the governments of the world) and claims a monopoly on the encoding. "We'll call it Blu-Ray!" Company believes that the new "technology" is going to be worth billions. But, the Company fails to se...
[02:46:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:Worse than placebo? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 261 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:39] <exec> 08└─*cough* The difficulty of a process doesn't define how scientific the process is. Did you think it was "easy" for the Manhattan project to achieve any of the steps involved in building fission bombs? Come on - anyone who reads this site can do better than that.
[02:46:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Huh? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[02:46:43] <exec> 08└─Fucking dumbass partisan retards NEVER seems to understand they're part of the problem.
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[03:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02What's happening here? - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 795 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:36] <exec> 08└─We have a bunch of people mucking around with OS's and applications, trying to break into other people's computers. Some of those people have the contacts with which to sell their secrets to government agencies. These are the "good" hackers. They enjoy government protection. Other people lack those...
[03:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Before foreign invaders bearing biological weap - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 442 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:42:45] <exec> 08└─What if there was an ancient matriarchial society that spanned the globe, living in harmony with mother nature? Then, as is apt to occur every now and then, a natural disaster of epic proportions hit. This altered the climate and ecosystem so much the civilization could not adapt, and so it was dest...
[03:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 877 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[03:42:50] <exec> 08└─Decades ago, I found and read a biography of Tecumseh. I was in fourth grade, so, about ten years old. I don't remember now whether I found it in the school library, the city library, or someone's pile of books, I only remember the story. In the book, Tecumseh discussed with some white people why hi...
[03:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 48 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:43:54] <exec> 08└─May your lungs fill with Tribbles. OH YES I DID!
[03:46:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03dry [223] (Score:2) 02Re:Worse than placebo? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 117 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:46:45] <exec> 08└─It can't be that bad, otherwise our wonderful governments would have illegalized it as they have other harmful herbs.
[03:47:07] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03sjames [2882] 02Re:time to stop asking nicely. - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 645 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:07] <exec> 08└─It would be nice if they would state the actual tests run and the actual amounts found. The last time the FDA went into a tizzy about teething drops, they released a weasel worded document claiming they contained an ingredient that could be harmful in larger doses. A statement that is true of litera...
[03:47:08] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Re:time to stop asking nicely. - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 1120 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:47:08] <exec> 08└─The real issue here is that the FDA has been specifically neutered by lobbying from the multi-billion dollar "natural medicine" industry and the resulting corrupt influence [scienceblogs.com] from Orrin Hatch [newrepublic.com]. If this was real medicine, the onus would be on the provider showing tha...
[03:48:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Minor result & pay-walled - 06Chemists Solve Mystery About Gold's Properties - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[03:48:05] <exec> 08└─No, you are wrong. Most physicists have references at hand, and they know how to use them. Academia surrounds itself in books at all times. If you need handholding and coddling to understand the story, you should get your favorite mentor (or kindergarden teacher) to help you with the story.
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[04:42:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Some things never change - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:21] <exec> 08└─Off topic but the line Around 80 irritated folk promptly hit "reply" to demand they be removed from the list – which was when the meltdown began.
[04:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02booo! - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[04:42:29] <exec> 08└─The people they hacked should be the ones in jail or we go by the law of the internet and nobody gets in trouble. Considering none of this is real, just bits inside metal and plastic...
[04:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] (Score:2) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:42:42] <exec> 08└─I think that is included. When people say famine killed X people, or toppled civilization Y, they do not literally mean all those people died of starvation. In any famine, you will have wars, and in any war you will have disease. Very very few of the people likely died as a direct result of a reduct...
[04:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 504 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:43:49] <exec> 08└─I don't think it would solve itself that way. The US system has more layers with many layers out to extract profit. The US also has the poor sitting in ERs to get treatment. That's an expensive and inefficient way to deliver healthcare (if you're not rich enough to have your own personal medical tea...
[04:45:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No surprise - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 687 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[04:45:25] <exec> 08└─Handbrake will transfer a DVD to a playable .mkv file at roughly 100fps, a two hour movie in just under 30 minutes. That file doesn't have the "unskippable content" in it, and is so much more flexible than a disc in terms of where and how it can be enjoyed. I get that the movie business expects to s...
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[05:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03anubi [2828] (Score:1) 02Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 947 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:23] <exec> 08└─It is my belief that my privacy, along with copyright, is a thing of the past. Neither are detectable, and all that can really be done are things like "poisoning the well" ( submitting false information to the info gleaners ), or obfuscation ( like encryption ). Knowledge of how technology works, li...
[05:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Yeah ... that's just not right - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 172 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:25] <exec> 08└─"ISPs know the success of any digital business depends on maintaining their regional monopoly." Seriously, how many news stories could I link to, to support that rewording?
[05:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My favorite Reply-All story - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 880 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:42:34] <exec> 08└─The number two guy at our company sent out an email to the entire company detailing the plans for reorganization (read: burning the company to the ground and taking C-Suite parachute) and copied every address in the system into the CC line (which meant everyone got it multiple times as department em...
[05:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 91 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:42:55] <exec> 08└─Genocidal warfare may have had more to do with depopulating the region, than climate change
[05:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:So much for a specification! - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 94 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:43:10] <exec> 08└─TFS did say "registration required" (to read the spec). Always a bad sign, as you pointed out.
[05:44:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CrApple 2017... --- see Veblen good - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 2932 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:44:48] <exec> 08└─https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good [wikipedia.org] "In economics, Veblen goods are types of material commodities for which the demand is proportional to its high price, which is an apparent contradiction of the law of demand; Veblen goods also are commodities that function as positional goods...
[05:46:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Worse than placebo? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 199 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[05:46:56] <exec> 08└─The article you linked has seven paragraphs enumerating uses for the plant, or extracts of it, in conventional medicine. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[05:47:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Who runs this company? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 54 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[05:47:35] <exec> 08└─Trump should make him (if it's a man) head of the FDA.
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[06:42:41] <exec> 08└─> I guess what I am trying to say is I have no ability to enforce my privacy anymore, You could say that about a million things. Like food safety. Building codes. Air pollution. Drug efficacy. etc.. And yet we are able to enforce those things. Privacy is no different
[06:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Former Verizon Lawyer - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 201 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[06:42:43] <exec> 08└─Before Idjit Pai became the loudest asshole on the FCC board, he was an associate general counsel (aka lawyer) at Verizon. He worked in the Senate after that. But he clearly hasn't forgotten his roots.
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[06:43:16] <exec> 08└─OR maybe, there is something in the Soil in Arkansas, like ringworm, that saps the energy and intelligence of the residents? Could it not have been something like that that wiped out the Natives, and then just lay in wait to infect the European invaders, who thought they were just walking into vacan...
[06:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:CrApple 2017... - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 111 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:10] <exec> 08└─You might like this: http://www.newyorker.com [newyorker.com]
[06:45:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Comment on "smart pixel" - 06The World's First Heat-Driven Transistor - 552 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:36] <exec> 08└─> (I expect Intel includes similar features [...] Someone (aznricepuff) on another Web forum wrote: TCC activation temperature: The temperature, measured at the CPU core(s), at which a PROCHOT# signal is sent. This is the signal that activates throttling of the CPU. In essence, the CPU will rapidly...
[06:45:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:recharge issue with dendrites - 06Researcher Develops Completely Explosion-Proof Lithium Metal Battery With 2X Power of Lithium Ion - 414 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:45:51] <exec> 08└─PBS's "Nova" aired Wed. evening with a show titled: "Search for the Super Battery". The show talked about dendrites being a problem of liquid electrolytes. One segment was on this guy and his battery. He claims the dendrites don't form in his battery because it uses a solid dry separator. Also that...
[06:46:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wats it mean? - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[06:46:14] <exec> 08└─HOW IS THIS OFF TOPIC?!
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[07:42:30] <exec> 08└─Quite true. Food safety: I can detect spoiled food, trace it back to where it spoiled. Hold someone responsible. Building Codes: I can inspect item to see if it meets requirements, if not, have them fix it or I won't sign off. Air Pollution: Trace it back to the pipe its coming from. Hold the own...
[07:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03acid andy [1683] (Score:2) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 531 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:31] <exec> 08└─+1 Depressingly Accurate. I thought it could still be saved but the percentage of the populace that even slightly cares about this stuff is absolutely miniscule (especially when compared to the sorts of issues my sibling AC has raised). Worse than that, more of the people who actually DO care about...
[07:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03bradley13 [3053] (Score:2) 02Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 613 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:42:35] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what will happen with the FCC. However, the articles from The Register look like they were written by junior-high students working for the school newspaper. Take the Register's article about the appointment of Pai as commissioner [theregister.co.uk]: It start's out by making fun of th...
[07:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My favorite Reply-All story - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 265 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:45] <exec> 08└─So one day I showed someone how to use ye ol windows command 'NET SEND'. Within the hour *bleep*. 'mike you are a girly man'. 300+ computers with that message on it. If you do not get it just right it broadcasts it. Thank god it is disabled by default these days :)
[07:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's happening here? - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:42:54] <exec> 08└─Live by the sword, enjoy government protection.
[07:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Before foreign invaders bearing biological weap - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:05] <exec> 08└─Perhaps memorialised in the myths of the garden of the Hesperides and the garden of Eden? https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org]
[07:43:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:14] <exec> 08└─But in Kentucky's defense, Mark Twain always said the when the end of the world comes, he would want to be in Kentucky, because everything gets there two years late.
[07:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we get 10G ethernet please? - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 122 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:28] <exec> 08└─10g isn't dirt cheap yet, but it's come down a LOT. We're to the point that higher end server boards have it built in now.
[07:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02lazy, ignorant question - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 77 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[07:43:32] <exec> 08└─How does this compare to InfiniBand wrt latency, throughput and cable length?
[07:43:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:"to help boost understanding"? - 0616 Years of GPS Space Weather Data Made Publicly Available - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:43:55] <exec> 08└─...to prevent the new administration from suppressing it.
[07:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:44:27] <exec> 08└─The US system has more layers with many layers out to extract profit. Had to read twice: looked like "lawyers" the first time.
[07:45:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:recharge issue with dendrites - 06Researcher Develops Completely Explosion-Proof Lithium Metal Battery With 2X Power of Lithium Ion - 236 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:45:52] <exec> 08└─Replying to my own comment, it just occurred to me that if the batteries containing metallic lithium end up in water and the water gets inside or they are broken open and they get wet, you're going to have a serious exothermic reaction.
[07:46:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No surprise - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 1693 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:10] <exec> 08└─And many people can download a similar MKV of a BluRay of that movie in just under 30 minutes. That downloaded MKV might be encoded better than some noob would have done with Handbrake. That's the thing I never got, why make your _paying_ customers sit through those warnings? To encourage them to st...
[07:46:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Reaping what you sow - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:23] <exec> 08└─Wow. I think the most recent one I watched on that list was Chappie (2015). Which was OK. Not fantastic but I don't regret watching it.
[07:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:need more strong blockbusters like Ghostbusters - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 486 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:46:30] <exec> 08└─There's nothing wrong with catering for the stupid. There are lots more stupid people than smart people. But if you're supposedly doing it for profit and you're losing money then you're clearly doing things wrong. If you're in a Democracy remember the votes of stupid people are often worth as much o...
[07:47:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Worse than placebo? - 06FDA Confirms Toxicity of Homeopathic Baby Products; Maker Refuses to Recall - 170 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[07:47:31] <exec> 08└─I think the parent AC meant to say "placebo effect"; maybe something like: "Because homeopathy is prescribed as a real thing you don't get the benefit of placebo effect".
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[08:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02JP - 06Claims: 80 to 195-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Proteins Found - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:27] <exec> 08└─https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ofgXv7JYOM [youtube.com]
[08:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02monochromatic? - 06W.M. Keck Observatory's Vortex Coronagraph Now Operational - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:42:35] <exec> 08└─This thing looks like a cross between diffraction grating and a zone plate. It sure looks like the sort of thing that would need to be tuned to one particular color of light. If not, how so? http://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org
[08:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 1015 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:42:46] <exec> 08└─We aren't able to enforce those things. Enforcement is getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. There are so many products out there and the enforcement agencies get their resources cut again and again that all you need to do to get around laws is to create a company, sell an illegal product, then...
[08:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:booo! - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:09] <exec> 08└─Completely agree with your first sentence, your second however could not be farther from truth.
[08:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 573 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:28] <exec> 08└─Yeah, but the Mississippiians were the Mound Builders! So why would climate change be an issue at all, since they were building mounds? It it just like our Feckless Leader, the Donald of the Tiny Hands, who has built so many towers to stave off the effects of global warming! The problem these Native...
[08:43:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 1065 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:43:30] <exec> 08└─First, wow, Runaway says he can read! Let me pick my jaw up off the floor. Second, can't remember. How convenient! I recall someone else using the same ploy recently! https://soylentnews.org [soylentnews.org] Third: What the fuck does this have to do wi...
[08:43:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02wouldn't need more than a few bad years - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 766 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:43:32] <exec> 08└─This is a place and time without: refrigeration, rodent-proof storage, seed banks, wheels, or long-distance unified language. If a seed can survive years without being planted, it's probably a weed. In the first bad year, you lose your crop. Got any seed left? OK, waste that in the second bad year....
[08:43:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Give it to them slowly - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 785 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:43:50] <exec> 08└─Or they could just give it to us hard. One big update only once and we all go to the final standard. Every two years some group of people comes together to make a 'specification'. They want to milk every little cent out of the people (on the face of it) but is actually there for mind-control. This i...
[08:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Our history has already been looted - 06GlobalXplorer Allows Public to Search Satellite Imagery for Archaeology Sites - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[08:44:02] <exec> 08└─What could have been looted has already been looted by those who run the satellites (developed with our hard work and money). They steal very old artifacts that show that this planet is very old and people just like us lived 250 Million years ago, in civilizations similar to ours. They do this so th...
[08:44:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Kawumpa [1187] (Score:1) 02Re:Dammit!!! - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 43 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:48] <exec> 08└─Mee too, and it would have been correct. :)
[08:44:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02No. - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 444 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:44:55] <exec> 08└─The organs in my body could provide millions of dollars for medical personal and hospitals. (often "handling fees" to avoid legal trouble for selling my organs) My family wouldn't see a damn cent of that. This strikes me as completely unfair exploitation of my death at a time when my family is great...
[08:45:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Jerry Smith [379] (Score:2) 02Re:Aluminum foil - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 366 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:15] <exec> 08└─Despite their shortcomings, I've always felt that they were sincere in structural errors. Same goes for Samsung, their battery troubles were immediately recognised and they pulled the product from the market. Something I find missing with Apple. Still buying LG products, even the G4 although it was...
[08:45:34] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] 02Re:CrApple 2017... - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 1630 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[08:45:34] <exec> 08└─As I pointed out, there is a difference between a one-time conning and the ability to consistently sell product at a certain price. The only thing that makes the latter "objective" is that more than 1 customer has to agree to that price, but it's still subjective as you're dealing with human psychol...
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[09:42:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02established science vs established theory - 06Fermi Space Telescope Finds Distant Blazars - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:42:27] <exec> 08└─> That they developed so early in cosmic history challenges current ideas of how supermassive black holes form and grow Or maybe they form and grow in the way we modeled and the custom physics about the initial big bang are wrong.
[09:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:52] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you were able to verify the ingredients on something?
[09:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Yeah ... that's just not right - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 449 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:55] <exec> 08└─Exactly, the "ISPs know the success of any digital business depends on earning their customers' trust on privacy." sentence stuck out like a saw thumb. Trying to focus it on the privacy aspect still, rather than going straight to the bottom line as you have done, I'd say what's closer to the truth i...
[09:42:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03aristarchus [2645] (Score:2) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 100 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:42:59] <exec> 08└─If this is what passes for journalism at The Register, I'll be glad to give it a miss in the future.
[09:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:02] <exec> 08└─The scrollbar is the rectangular thing over there --------------------->
[09:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[09:43:04] <exec> 08└─Comcast has been selling consumers' information for years. This [xfinity.com] thread on the xfinity customer service page has plenty enough evidence, even if anecdotal, to indicate it's certainly been a policy for some time. Net neutrality did absolutely nothing to stop this. I suppose I could make...
[09:43:35] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03wisnoskij [5149] 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 407 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:36] <exec> 08└─I think that is included. When people say famine killed X people, or toppled civilization Y, they do not literally mean all those people died of starvation. In any famine, you will have wars, and in any war you will have disease. Very very few of the people likely died as a direct result of a reduct...
[09:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 59 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:42] <exec> 08└─This sort of drivel is why I'm not a big fan of AC posting.
[09:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03MostCynical [2589] (Score:2) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 119 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:44] <exec> 08└─Doesn't fit with the Gaia/ earthmother-vengence thing the true "humans are a virus on the planet" types like to peddle.
[09:43:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 452 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:43:46] <exec> 08└─In the book, Tecumseh discussed with some white people why his people wouldn't live in Kentucky. Tecumseh's grandfather's generation had finally succeeded in wiping out a tribe of death worshipping cannibals who live in Kentucky. It was believed that the cannibal's evil spirits haunted Kentucky, and...
[09:45:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03GreatAuntAnesthesia [3275] (Score:2) 02Re:No. - 06Woman Kept Alive for Six Days Without Lungs - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:09] <exec> 08└─So, you are worth millions of dollars in organs, and your wife stands to get the lot if you "accidentally" die. WCPGW?
[09:45:41] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03DannyB [5839] 02Re:CrApple 2017... - 06LG's New 5K Monitor is Adversely Affected by Routers - 195 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:45:42] <exec> 08└─In the very early 1980's (or late 1970's) Steve Jobs called it "perceived value". If the price is high, people will perceive that it must be worth it. Are you so old that you have forgotten this?
[09:46:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:No surprise - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 689 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[09:46:50] <exec> 08└─Exactly. I'm one of the few people who pay for DVDs. Every single time I decide to watch a DVD, the first five minutes is spent thinking "not this crap again, maybe I should switch to torrents like everyone else". The thing is, my computer is in my bedroom and the TV is in the living room. Getting t...
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[10:42:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02wonder if it contributes to "metal" formation - 06Fermi Space Telescope Finds Distant Blazars - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:42:28] <exec> 08└─Given the energies involved, I wonder if this is a means for creating and spreading stuff heavier than helium, "metal" in the lingo of astronomers. Doesn't sound like you'd get the massive nuclei formation that you get in supernova, but it might be a way to create and spread elements between lithium...
[10:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Some things never change - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:09] <exec> 08└─was sent to a distribution list called "CroydonPractices"
[10:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some things never change - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 257 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[10:43:11] <exec> 08└─Some things never change (Score:2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 02, @04:08AM (#461878) Off topic but the line Around 80 irritated folk promptly hit "reply" to demand they be removed from the list – which was when the meltdown began.
[10:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02I miss the old days - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 310 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[10:43:48] <exec> 08└─I miss the old days when "climate variance" or "changes in climate" (as used in the lead) or even "changes in rainfall patterns" was used instead of "climate change". "Climate change" has started to feel so buzz-wordy that I put it in with "synergize", "the cloud" and "paradigm shift". Just yet anot...
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[11:42:24] <exec> 08└─...CDMA!!! [tripadvisor.com]
[11:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03rob_on_earth [5485] (Score:2) 02Another that will affect average not criminals - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 284 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:26] <exec> 08└─So the criminals will get better and building fake finger prints or affecting databases containing finger prints or just bribe the shops. At the same time causing huge amounts of biometric data to be retained unnecessary and available for illegal ex-filtration and government ingress.
[11:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02blazars - 06Fermi Space Telescope Finds Distant Blazars - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[11:42:35] <exec> 08└─I thought the KKK were OK until I found out they smoked pot. 🚭
[11:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Before foreign invaders bearing biological weap - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:43:38] <exec> 08└─Welcome to risk 101. If you're trusting mother nature, then you're doing it wrong.
[11:44:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:100g spec released today - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 24 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[11:44:06] <exec> 08└─At 100 grams per second?
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[12:42:28] <exec> 08└─"Laws" like these are hatched to create a big-brother state. Common criminals are not a problem. Low-level financial fraud is also not a problem. Criminal governments, on the other hand are the problem and must be stopped now. Big-brother state (and mentality) has to end. I wonder (((who))) could be...
[12:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:Another that will affect average not criminals - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:42:29] <exec> 08└─The answer must obviously be [...] a Progressive Jewish Community in Thailand with occasional Shabbat and holiday services, and other activities.
[12:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Saudi Arabia - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 188 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:31] <exec> 08└─I was living in Saudi Arabia last year. Existing account holders absolutely did have to also register their fingerprints and in only a few months for the whole country. It was utter chaos.
[12:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03PiMuNu [3823] (Score:2) 02Note historical precedent - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 375 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:33] <exec> 08└─Anecdotally, it seems there is a well-established precedent for these sorts of technologies to be tested in less established democracies before migrating to more established democracies i.e. the West. so this can be implemented in UK and US in about 10 years. Has anyone done a systematic study of th...
[12:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Why is this controversial? - 06Claims: 80 to 195-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Proteins Found - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[12:42:49] <exec> 08└─In December we had a story about a dinosaur tail with "flesh, skin, and feathers" that was fossilised in amber. /article.pl?sid=16/12/09/221216 [soylentnews.org]
[12:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03driverless [4770] (Score:2) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 76 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:09] <exec> 08└─When was the last time you were able to verify the ingredients on something?
[12:43:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 400 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:10] <exec> 08└─> We aren't able to enforce those things. Enforcement is getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. (1) Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good (2) We are able to enforce them, the fact that vested interests have been chipping away at our collective will to enforce them is not proof that they...
[12:43:16] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03aristarchus [2645] 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 100 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:43:17] <exec> 08└─If this is what passes for journalism at The Register, I'll be glad to give it a miss in the future.
[12:47:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:wats it mean? - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 348 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[12:47:15] <exec> 08└─It is close enough (unless you work with it) to think of it as "writing down the premium value", where 'premium' is any non-tangible assets (incl. and future potential earnings), compared to previous estimate. And, yes, your "writing down 22trillion dollars" has happened, it roughly is the margin of...
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[13:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Waiting - 06Claims: 80 to 195-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Proteins Found - 39 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:42:52] <exec> 08└─Mary Schweitzer, huh? "Clever girl"!
[13:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 190 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:15] <exec> 08└─Despite of thousands of years trying, we've still not managed to stop murder. People get murdered every day. Thus following your logic, all that legislation against murder is useless, right?
[13:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:23] <exec> 08└─Ah thanks. I always thought the rectangular thing on the right of my monitor was the PC. ;-)
[13:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Some things never change - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 85 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:35] <exec> 08└─47 to say this is just what alt.physic.coldfusion was meant for and to leave it there
[13:43:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My favorite Reply-All story - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 40 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:43:39] <exec> 08└─300+? Mike must've been sore after that.
[13:44:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:wouldn't need more than a few bad years - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 1529 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[13:44:14] <exec> 08└─The thing is, those complex mound-building societies arose long before the introduction of maize agriculture in North America. The Adena and Hopewell cultures preceded the Mississippians by a long ways. They made do with native plants like marsh elder, ragweed, ground nut, milkweed, etc., and hunted...
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[13:44:32] <exec> 08└─Anything new we build at work gets 10G. It's still much more expensive than 1G, but only a very minor increase when you look at the whole server (or switch or router or...) that you're buying. Pretty much the same deal with SSDs. Actually, the biggest problem with SSDs right now is limited supply.
[13:44:33] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03FunkyLich [4689] 02So much for a specification! - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 1036 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[13:44:33] <exec> 08└─I went to the site, had a look around. What I noticed within seconds was logos of very commercial companies at the front page, prominently occupying a good portion of the page. Arista, Broadcom, Google, Mellanox, Microsoft. Of these I have no idea what Arista and Mellanox are, but I wildly guess the...
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[14:42:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I totally hate Facebook - 06Facebook/Oculus Ordered to pay $500 Million to ZeniMax - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:42:25] <exec> 08└─I am happy that Facebook was given the finger. We all want to do the same. Facebook is not there for communication or uploading photos. We had friends before MySpace arrived and will still have friends long after Facebook is gone. The code that Facebook originally ran on was also stolen, so its no s...
[14:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Another that will affect average not criminals - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:42:36] <exec> 08└─I wonder (((who))) could be behind for these laws that take away all our freedoms...
[14:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:2, Informative) 02Re:Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:43:27] <exec> 08└─You are confused. Net neutrality and privacy are completely separate topics, which have nothing in common except for the fact that they both apply to the internet and are subject to FCC regulations. Yes, you are right: Net neutrality doesn't do anything for privacy. Guess what: It was never meant to...
[14:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Solution? - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:43:41] <exec> 08└─The solution is to disable "Reply All" [technipages.com] when you send your email.
[14:44:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Yay for trade - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 44 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:44:06] <exec> 08└─If they have the ₩ampum we have the grain.
[14:44:59] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03NewNic [6420] 02"to help boost understanding"? - 0616 Years of GPS Space Weather Data Made Publicly Available - 155 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[14:44:59] <exec> 08└─Over 16 years of GPS space weather data has been released to the public for the first time, in a bid to prevent the new administration from suppressing it.
[14:47:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Reaping what you sow - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 412 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:43] <exec> 08└─Metascore (which is way more reliable as a measure of long-lasting quality, rather than ephemeral crowd-pulling). Passengers: 41 Inferno: 42 Magnificent Seven: 54 Sausage Party: 66 Ghostbusters: 60 The Shallows: 59 Angry Birds: 43 Money Monster: 55 Brothers Grimsby: 44 The 5th Wave: 33 So it looks l...
[14:47:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02Re:Reaping what you sow - 06Sony Writes Down $977 Million in its Movie Business, Blames DVD and Blu-Ray Decline - 715 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[14:47:44] <exec> 08└─Curiosity got the better of me - Paramount's 2016 Metascores. Everybody Wants Some: 83 Arrival: 81 Silence: 79 Fences: 78 10 Cloverfield Lane: 76 Florence Foster Jenkins: 71 Star Trek Beyond: 68 Allied: 60 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot: 57 13 Hours: 48 Jack Reacher: 47 Be Somebody: no metascore, but http://...
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[15:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Thexalon [636] (Score:3, Funny) 02Isn't it obvious? - 06Russia Charges Cyber Security Experts With Treason - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:42:39] <exec> 08└─This is the definitive proof that the US hacked Russia's election backed in 2012! Putin is not my president!
[15:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I totally hate Facebook - 06Facebook/Oculus Ordered to pay $500 Million to ZeniMax - 102 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:42:48] <exec> 08└─The fine doesn't apply to Facebook, as Facebook wasn't found liable to the infringement. (Source: TFA)
[15:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Another that will affect average not criminals - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 293 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:00] <exec> 08└─Well, things change in 45 years, but I was stationed at Utapao in Thailand from August 1973 to August 1974, and I never met a single Jew. Not one. The Thais were friendly, happy people but were NOT open to societal influences from "Falongs" (foreigners), whether American, European, or Jewish.
[15:43:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:Another that will affect average not criminals - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:01] <exec> 08└─...and now they have a cemetery. It's literally a Jewish plot.
[15:43:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03bradley13 [3053] 02Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 613 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:43:50] <exec> 08└─I have no idea what will happen with the FCC. However, the articles from The Register look like they were written by junior-high students working for the school newspaper. Take the Register's article about the appointment of Pai as commissioner [theregister.co.uk]: It start's out by making fun of th...
[15:43:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 439 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:53] <exec> 08└─" But to my eye, the Register's coverage seemed a bit understated, almost like they held back, because they were afraid of what the Trump Whitehouse might do to them." I didn't RTFA because I gave up on "El Reg" years ago, but understated? The only thing understated I ever saw there was when they le...
[15:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 149 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:43:57] <exec> 08└─"El Reg" has a seriously bad habit of making unsensational stories sensational by leaving out important information. It is not a serious news source.
[15:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 127 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:01] <exec> 08└─They are and they are not. Deep inspection of packets my friend. You need that for both: fast lane and privacy-raping policies.
[15:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Rosco P. Coltrane [4757] (Score:2) 02Re:Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 431 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:03] <exec> 08└─Net neutrality and privacy are completely separate topics They most certainly aren't: If you don't have privacy but you have net neutrality, if you do want privacy anyway, you encrypt your traffic and it goes through at the same speed as Big Brother traffic. If you have neither and you try to encryp...
[15:44:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Solution? - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 41 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:44:19] <exec> 08└─That's a Windoze solution. Try using bcc.
[15:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02About ten years ago... - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 343 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:44:20] <exec> 08└─The new DHS (Department of Human Services) Secretary (big cheese) sent a "merry Christmas" to all employees. Another newbie, a low-level employee, hit "reply all" instead of "reply" and the same sequence of events as chronicled in TFS occurred. It was a smaller scale, as DHD only employs thousands o...
[15:44:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03mcgrew [701] (Score:2) 02Re:I miss the old days - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 1146 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[15:45:00] <exec> 08└─I agree about "the cloud"; that word was coined out of technological ignorance. But I see no difference between "climate change" and "changes in climate". "synergize" is from synergy, "the interaction or cooperation of two or more organizations, substances, or other agents to produce a combined effe...
[15:45:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02NEW HIGH-SPEED COMMUNICATIONS BUS - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 802 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[15:45:23] <exec> 08└─BYTE magazine, April 1980, page 115. NEW HIGH-SPEED COMMUNICATIONS BUS: Xerox Corporation recently made a public announcement of a new concept of processor-to-processor communications intended for an office environment. This novel concept is called "Ethernet", and is a result of some of the work bei...
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[16:42:30] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Thexalon [636] 02Isn't it obvious? - 06Russia Charges Cyber Security Experts With Treason - 108 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:30] <exec> 08└─This is the definitive proof that the US hacked Russia's election backed in 2012! Putin is not my president!
[16:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I totally hate Facebook - 06Facebook/Oculus Ordered to pay $500 Million to ZeniMax - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:42:39] <exec> 08└─Oculus has to pay damages to ZeniMax, and Facebook owns Oculus. (source for both: TFA)
[16:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02SIM usage != phone usage - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 226 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:55] <exec> 08└─The whole point of a SIM card is that you can use the same SIM on your next phone or another SIM on the same phone. So I don't see why the phone replacement pattern should imply anything about the SIM card replacement pattern.
[16:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03jelizondo [653] (Score:2) 02Fake fingerprint - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 150 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[16:42:57] <exec> 08└─Apparently it is possible to get your fingerprints from a digital photo [snopes.com], so there’s your answer: copy the fingerprints of a politician!
[16:43:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Why is this controversial? - 06Claims: 80 to 195-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Proteins Found - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:15] <exec> 08└─In December we had a story about a dinosaur tail with "flesh, skin, and feathers" that was fossilised in amber. /article.pl?sid=16/12/09/221216 [soylentnews.org]
[16:43:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Former Verizon Lawyer - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 532 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:43] <exec> 08└─As much as I'd like to agree with you, I do have to point out that we in the tech community were saying pretty much the same thing about Tom Wheeler just before he became FCC chairman. He was a lobbyist for the cable industry before taking this post, and then he did an about-face and pushed Net Neut...
[16:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:43:55] <exec> 08└─Why would they slow it down, they'd just block the encrypted traffic outright like some ISP's used to do with legacy P2P traffic.
[16:44:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:What's happening here? - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 754 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:20] <exec> 08└─More useful would be if we'd work harder on building software and systems which are immune to these people and their malware/hacking, and are trustworthy. We've got a good start with Linux and its ecosystem, but it could use more work. Of course, this won't help people who steadfastly refuse to use...
[16:44:21] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:What's happening here? - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 95 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:22] <exec> 08└─In this case the water tastes like piss and the horse has a good reason not to drink it though.
[16:44:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Aiwendil [531] (Score:2) 02Re:I miss the old days - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 1317 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:44:54] <exec> 08└─I dislike 'synergize' due to only hearing and seeing it in marketing speak - at all other times I see "mutual advantage", "cooperative benefits" or "economy of scale" - so its modern use in marketing I consider a buzzword. "Paradigm shift" is also a phrase I only see to generate buzz, in other conte...
[16:45:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:100g spec released today - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 108 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:06] <exec> 08└─If you're using microSD cards as carriers, a hundred grams per second is a pretty impressive amount of data.
[16:45:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03requerdanos [5997] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we get 10G ethernet please? - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 62 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:45:14] <exec> 08└─The economic downturn kinda screwed 10g, so what use is 25/50?
[16:49:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Ummm... - 06Netgear Exploit Found in 31 Models Lets Hackers Add Your Router to a Botnet - 185 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[16:49:05] <exec> 08└─When participants could instruct an assistant (confederate) to press the switches, 92.5% shocked to the maximum 450 volts. Not 100% but maybe good enough for government work [time.com]?
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[17:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 110 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:31] <exec> 08└─Is it government overreach, or do such restrictions make sense? Sometimes it really seems to be a bit of both.
[17:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 260 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:33] <exec> 08└─They can take these restrictions and stuff them up their asses. They will be completely ignored if the ease of gene editing and the demand for the service go up. As for the FDA... will anybody be eating the dalmatians? No? Then get the government out of there.
[17:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 130 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:35] <exec> 08└─And who will stop the hoards of ravenous demented mutated dalmations that will overthrow humanity and eventually rule the galaxy!?
[17:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03takyon [881] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:37] <exec> 08└─Geriatric Bruce Willis? Cruella de Vil? Nobody?
[17:42:38] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 235 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:39] <exec> 08└─Which is all fine and good if you know what the gene does before you change it. If you're playing guesswork games you could really fuck shit up for everybody though. Direct DNA manipulation is not something that should be done lightly.
[17:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 115 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:41] <exec> 08└─Modded up because it's apparently something that people here need said to them, despite how bleedin' obvious it is.
[17:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03LoRdTAW [3755] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 837 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:42:43] <exec> 08└─On one hand you have the ability to fix the fuck ups of human meddling with dog breeding which has introduced many genetic flaws thanks to inbreeding. On the other hand, Who controls a breed? Once you have the ability to make designer animals, inevitably there will be patent and trademark issues. Li...
[17:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03theluggage [1797] (Score:2) 02What could possibly go wrong? - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 63 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:45] <exec> 08└─Is it government overreach, or do such restrictions make sense?
[17:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03JustNiz [1573] (Score:1) 02Oh no not again.... - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:48] <exec> 08└─this is exactly how the vampire dalmatian apocalypse started on my home planet....
[17:42:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bootsy [3440] (Score:2) 02Regulation arbitrage - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 277 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:42:50] <exec> 08└─Ok so you are not allowed to do this in the US. Just go to a juristriction where can do this, there must be a country out there with lax laws that will allow it. A bit like in Alien 4 but you don't need to leave the planet to do it, sort of. No what could possibly go wrong....
[17:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:-1, Troll) 02Re:I totally hate Facebook - 06Facebook/Oculus Ordered to pay $500 Million to ZeniMax - 164 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:07] <exec> 08└─Honestly, what do you expect from a thieving jew? He robbed his partners who started the business with him. And he continues to steal like every other entitled jew.
[17:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:SIM usage != phone usage - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 105 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:43:25] <exec> 08└─At least half the time, your new phone requires a smaller sim. SIM cutters exist, but do not always work.
[17:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02This will work well - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 120 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:43:27] <exec> 08└─For criminals, who dont care to follow rules. Once again, honest citizens get the shaft. Now they are tracked even more.
[17:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Informative) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 215 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:17] <exec> 08└─> The only thing understated I ever saw there Wooosh! Let me clue you in, he was making the point that Idjit Pai is so crazy hungry for telco cock that even the reg's crazy hyperbole is insufficient to describe him.
[17:44:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Fake News - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 1135 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:44:27] <exec> 08└─If you think net neutrality is about security or privacy, I think you should double check the meaning. Net neutrality gives anyone serving up content a fair equal footing in bandwidth relative to everybody else rather than giving those with deep pockets a monopoly on the type of content or service p...
[17:44:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02mystery doc - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[17:44:57] <exec> 08└─what is the name of this mystery documentary about internet mercenaries?
[17:45:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Can we get 10G ethernet please? - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 524 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[17:45:49] <exec> 08└─25G fits in the same external footprint as 10G (though PCB design is a lot more fun at those rates). 25G is also a quarter of the 4-link 100G standard, allowing 100-to-4x25 in a similar way to the current 40-to-4x10 patching. 50G is interesting, but my guess is most companies will either not need it...
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[17:46:37] <exec> 08└─She's Canadian: "Who apologized on her behalf for 6 days?"
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[18:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Inbox - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakaota Access Pipeline - 46 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:42:30] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't want to be in charge of THAT inbox!
[18:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 52 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:45] <exec> 08└─You upmodded him..? Never thought I'd see the day...
[18:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 237 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:46] <exec> 08└─Why not? If the zombie corpse of Hitler popped out of the ground and started shouting "Der sky ist blue!" at me, I'm not gonna start believing it's orange with purple polka dots just because it's Undead Hitler telling me the sky is blue.
[18:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 107 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:48] <exec> 08└─AC you had to poke. Now MB is reincarnated zombie. Btw AH, in what universe do the undead speak coherently?
[18:42:51] <exec> *** new comment: 03maxwell demon [1608] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 112 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:52] <exec> 08└─Well, just wait until you've got humans with patented genes. If you want to have children, get a patent license.
[18:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Already do. - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 625 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:54] <exec> 08└─And the 'IP' laws surrounding medical waste are now bad enough that we will probably seen a new and appalling wave of Henrietta Lacks style appropriation and reselling of other people's genetic material. I suppose the only bright side to it is that in the unlikely event your genes became popular (an...
[18:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03ikanreed [3164] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 496 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:56] <exec> 08└─In the United States, "Who controls a breed" is a question with an answer. The American Kennel Club. They have, on previous occasions, made active decisions to alter the definition of a breed to facilitate good breed health. For example, puppies of a dog with Hip Displasia may not be registered Gold...
[18:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:42:58] <exec> 08└─Get rid of software patents and disallow animal patents. Pretty simple, except that our government is controlled by corporations.
[18:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02And these rules stop whom? - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:03] <exec> 08└─Not the people that dont care about them. The technology exists. All the regulation in the world wont stop it from being used, and it only makes it harder to advance.
[18:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03FatPhil [863] (Score:2) 02If the gene is known - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 299 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:05] <exec> 08└─Then surely you can selectively breed it out just as easily as you can GM it out? It doesn't even have to be forced eugenics - they've all got dog passports, add a field that says "has defective gene" upon registration, and let market forces make breeding the ones with the gene not worth the money.
[18:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If the gene is known - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:07] <exec> 08└─According to the article, no Dalmatian has a healthy copy of the gene. So it can't be bred out without cross-breeding. And since pure-breds are worth more than crosses, generally, market forces would push towards keeping the defective gene unless genetic modding is done.
[18:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02ancien régime - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:10] <exec> 08└─"On January 18" may be the key words in the article. Someone has written in Wikipedia without a proper citation: Dr. Califf stepped down from the post of FDA commissioner on January 20th 2017.
[18:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Isn't it obvious? - 06Russia Charges Cyber Security Experts With Treason - 914 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:43:18] <exec> 08└─It isn't definite proof, but it is circumstantial evidence in support of it. Like there is an arson case, and the person the police suspect happens to have a lighter. There are countless other reasons why the suspect might have a lighter (e.g. they are a smoker), but it certainly doesn't hurt the ca...
[18:43:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Looks like we'll be playing the long game - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 778 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:43:49] <exec> 08└─Keep educating people, keep pointing out the futility of these measures. My hope is that eventually people realize how dumb these security measures are and how they actually make people less secure. However, that will require the information to be abused for a while... so yay! Hello increased identi...
[18:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:3, Informative) 02Re:Why is this controversial? - 06Claims: 80 to 195-Million-Year-Old Dinosaur Proteins Found - 142 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:08] <exec> 08└─Well spotted. That other story also says: Examination of the specimen suggests the tail was chestnut brown on top and white on its underside.
[18:44:31] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03acid andy [1683] 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 531 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:31] <exec> 08└─+1 Depressingly Accurate. I thought it could still be saved but the percentage of the populace that even slightly cares about this stuff is absolutely miniscule (especially when compared to the sorts of issues my sibling AC has raised). Worse than that, more of the people who actually DO care about...
[18:44:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 262 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:44:34] <exec> 08└─It is my belief that my privacy, along with copyright, is a thing of the past. Neither are detectable, and all that can really be done are things like "poisoning the well" ( submitting false information to the info gleaners ), or obfuscation ( like encryption ).
[18:44:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03ilsa [6082] (Score:2) 02Privacy Shmivacy - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[18:44:52] <exec> 08└─"ISPs know the success of any digital business depends on earning their customers' trust on privacy."
[18:45:10] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:About ten years ago... - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:10] <exec> 08└─The low-level employee was fired.
[18:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 407 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:42] <exec> 08└─I think that is included. When people say famine killed X people, or toppled civilization Y, they do not literally mean all those people died of starvation. In any famine, you will have wars, and in any war you will have disease. Very very few of the people likely died as a direct result of a reduct...
[18:45:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:wouldn't need more than a few bad years - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 72 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[18:45:53] <exec> 08└─If a seed can survive years without being planted, it's probably a weed.
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[19:42:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Inbox - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:40] <exec> 08└─You could get a medal for it.
[19:42:42] <exec> 08*** new score 5 comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] 02Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 1295 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[19:42:42] <exec> 08└─At this point I would be worried about having the pipeline anywhere near the reservation. With how much media attention this has created there are bound to be a few crazies who would gladly cause a leak just to screw with the tribe. While I understand the value of using a pipeline over rail / trucks...
[19:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 178 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:44] <exec> 08└─Also, the value of the pipeline is highly questionable especially now that the world is finally getting serious about going with electric vehicles and renewable power generation.
[19:42:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 15 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:42:57] <exec> 08└─Cruella de Vil?
[19:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Azuma Hazuki [5086] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 152 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:43:04] <exec> 08└─I didn't say Uzzard's a (literal) zombie, just making the point that the truth is the truth, no matter the source. No one can be wrong 100% of the time.
[19:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Grishnakh [2831] (Score:2) 02Re:Technology changes everything - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 254 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:39] <exec> 08└─Terrible analogy. The State has a real interest in deterring murder, and other such violent crimes, for many reasons (social stability, economic progress, etc.). However, the State has zero interest in protecting your privacy, in fact quite the opposite.
[19:44:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:Former Verizon Lawyer - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:44:45] <exec> 08└─Wheeler didn't go on record saying he was going to gut net neutrality the day he was appointed...
[19:45:58] <exec> *** new comment: 03DeathMonkey [1380] (Score:2) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 209 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[19:45:58] <exec> 08└─Doesn't fit with the Gaia/ earthmother-vengence thing the true "humans are a virus on the planet" types like to peddle. It does fit the scientific theory that rapid climate change can fuck shit up, though.
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[20:42:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02there is no "View > Toolbar Layout" - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 363 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:29] <exec> 08└─If you're going to include instructions on how to toggle the feature in TFS, you should make a point of including the critical preliminary step, too. First: Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Advanced > Enable experimental features (may be unstable) LO will need to restart. After the restart, the instr...
[20:42:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:there is no "View > Toolbar Layout" - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 398 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:31] <exec> 08└─Great, so you turned on the faux ribbon. How to turn it off again? There's a reason why the experimental features option is flagged as potentially unstable. Click the document icon to the left of the File tab on the ribbon. Choose Menubar to turn the menu bar back on. View > Toolbar Layout > Default...
[20:42:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Couple words on ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 11 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:33] <exec> 08└─Thanks, no.
[20:42:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Couple words on ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 49 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:35] <exec> 08└─2007 called. They want their word processor back.
[20:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03cmdrklarg [5048] (Score:1) 02Re:Couple words on ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 23 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:37] <exec> 08└─Hell, I want 2003 back.
[20:42:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 314 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:39] <exec> 08└─There. I went ahead and said it It works beautifully and is at least as efficient as the old drop down menu system. IMNSHO people who haven't gotten used to it in ca. 10 years that it has been around are just not fit for change That said I have no problems in software developers allowing multi...
[20:42:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 448 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:42:41] <exec> 08└─One of the most attractive factors of LibreOffice is that there is no ridiculous "ribbon" UI. Why would they waste development time making one? That effort could have been spent better elsewhere, and now it makes LibreOffice scream like an imitation of MS Office rather than being its own "office" su...
[20:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 166 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:44] <exec> 08└─With all that development time being 'wasted' on this ribbon UI, that frees up a spot for you to contribute your skills... why not put your money where your mouth is?
[20:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 93 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:46] <exec> 08└─One of the most attractive factors of LibreOffice is that there is no ridiculous "ribbon" UI.
[20:42:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 481 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:48] <exec> 08└─>"One of the most attractive factors of LibreOffice is that there is no ridiculous "ribbon" UI." I agree, but the reason for adding it as an option is to attract converts who are used to using that UI. My guess is that most of the people who hate the ribbon and are able to switch to Libre Office hav...
[20:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:42:59] <exec> 08└─A lot of anti-nuclear seems to come from people who want "green energy". http://www.greenpeace.org [greenpeace.org]
[20:43:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03bzipitidoo [4388] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 1092 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:01] <exec> 08└─Your information is wrong. Energy companies themselves do not agree with those projections for coal. Here's an article my electricity provider linked to: https://singularityhub.com [singularityhub.com] They see that the cost of solar has fallen...
[20:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 58 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:03] <exec> 08└─Apple meet orange. Nice marketing docs you supplied there.
[20:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:3, Insightful) 02Eating Your Own Dogfood - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 231 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:05] <exec> 08└─My advice: Put the pipeline back on its original route - upstream of Bismarck. If it poses no risk to the native people's land where it is now, then surely it poses no risk to Bismarck where it was originally planned to go. Right?
[20:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Re:Eating Your Own Dogfood - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 18 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:07] <exec> 08└─Makes sense to me.
[20:43:26] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:3, Interesting) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 352 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:26] <exec> 08└─So, how, exactly, is the regulatory agency going to prove that a Dalmation in the marketplace without hyper uricemia has been genetically edited? Make the mod, fix the disease, observe 3 generations of offspring for any unintended consequences, if the great-grandkids of the edited embryos are good d...
[20:43:27] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 165 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:28] <exec> 08└─That is the point of regulation, unscrupulous scientists will make genetic changes based on how much they're paid and skip the entire unintended consequences aspect.
[20:43:29] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 29 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:30] <exec> 08└─It should not be done at all.
[20:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03sjames [2882] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 291 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:37] <exec> 08└─In the case of crop modifications, I urge a great deal of caution given that we have already seen modifications escape into the wild, but in this case, the likelihood of this resulting in packs of wild mutant dal-wolves roaming the forests seems small enough to make the attempt permissible.
[20:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:And these rules stop whom? - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 33 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:43] <exec> 08└─Two words: plausible deniability.
[20:43:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03JoeMerchant [3937] (Score:2) 02Re:And these rules stop whom? - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 160 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:43:45] <exec> 08└─These rules don't stop it from being done. These rules slow down the people who are doing it from seeking patent and/or copyright protection of their creations.
[20:43:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02So - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 64 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:43:50] <exec> 08└─You do what everyone else does, and take your research to China.
[20:43:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02More Circumstantial Evidence: An Assassination - 06Russia Charges Cyber Security Experts With Treason - 890 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:00] <exec> 08└─Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump [telegraph.co.uk] An ex-KGB chief suspected of helping the former MI6 spy Christopher Steele to compile his dossier on Donald Trump may have been murdered by the Kremlin and his death covered up. it has been claimed. Oleg Erov...
[20:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Dunbal [3515] (Score:2) 02Re:Isn't it obvious? - 06Russia Charges Cyber Security Experts With Treason - 294 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:02] <exec> 08└─This is media spin. The crime of treason is for MONEY LAUNDERING and hiding assets for some corrupt government officials have already been arrested. This has nothing to do with the US election and everything to do with Dmitry Zakharchenko being found with over $100 million cash at his house...
[20:44:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03choose another one [515] (Score:2) 02Re:SIM usage != phone usage - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 60 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:44:31] <exec> 08└─SIM cutters work - it is the SIM that doesn't, afterwards...
[20:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Mexico Tried to Require ID for 3 Year - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 339 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:44:35] <exec> 08└─Mexico tried to require ID to purchase a sim. [aol.com] Nominally it was to stop kidnappings - but that didn't make much sense because the kidnappers could always use the phone of the person they kidnapped. Anyway, after three years they repealed the law, [nation.co.ke] apparently it didn't help wi...
[20:45:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03HiThere [866] (Score:2) 02Known system failure mode - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 571 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[20:45:42] <exec> 08└─This is a known system failure mode for systems that have a centralized control. If you wait long enough, it WILL happen. The problem is that it's difficult to design efficient systems that aren't subject to centralized control (and they have other failure modes...e.g. spam-like activity. That said,...
[20:47:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:lazy, ignorant question - 0625G/50G Ethernet Specification Finalized - 53 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[20:47:11] <exec> 08└─Infiniband is really short. Like single-digit meters.
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[21:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:there is no "View > Toolbar Layout" - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 271 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:33] <exec> 08└─MS ribbon sucks... why would we want this? (I know... for the MS Office users to be able to handicap their way into the FOSS world, but still.... stupid is....) When i HAVE to use the office ribbon, im just glad i know some shortcuts like CTRL+P etc, cause ..... yeah....
[21:42:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Couple words on ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 51 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:37] <exec> 08└─The Ribbon. From the company who brought you Edlin.
[21:42:38] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02The ''demand'' for this ''feature'' - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 643 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:39] <exec> 08└─My suggested dept. line was from the software-projects-playing-follow-the-leader dept. Perhaps not the best dept. line ever. I was thinking about the Firefox/Google thing I will admit. The editor's dept. line is from the that-only-took-10-years dept. I think that this (sub)thread indicates that the...
[21:42:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03tibman [134] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 900 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:42] <exec> 08└─I would not say beautiful. Outlook for example, if you reply to an email you can't insert an in-line image. You have to "Pop Out" your reply to get the ribbon to add the insert image option. That's not intuitive, that's stupid. Most of the ribbon icons have to have text with them because outside of...
[21:42:44] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:4, Informative) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 774 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:45] <exec> 08└─I shouldn't have to 'get used to it'. Pull down menus were invented to hide a large number of commands that would otherwise take up screen real-estate when not being used. That is the major drawback of both Toolbars and the Ribbon. It takes up screen pixels when it isn't being used. I find it amusin...
[21:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:47] <exec> 08└─The other bad thing about the "ribbon" is that it's not static. You need to look all over where things are. It might be good for someone who maybe ting to do something, but isn't really sure ... "Here, how about trying one of these things?". If you know what you want to do exactly, hotkeys are best....
[21:42:48] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 138 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:49] <exec> 08└─Perhaps, but as long as it requires Java I'll never use it. My computers have been Java free for four years now, and will remain that way.
[21:42:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 159 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:51] <exec> 08└─Unless you're using the database, it's inessential: For certain features of the software - but not most - Java is required. Java is notably required for Base.
[21:42:53] <exec> *** new comment: 03Celestial [4891] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 92 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:53] <exec> 08└─Oh yeah, I know. I was referring to the new UI, which requires Java as well per the summary.
[21:42:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03krishnoid [1156] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 278 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:56] <exec> 08└─I'll be happier when they have their own version of Ribbon Hero [pcworld.com]. Actually, if you have to use Microsoft Office at work, you could consider loading Ribbon Hero. It's mildly educational and fun to try out when you need a short filthy casual [knowyourmeme.com] break.
[21:42:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Gaaark [41] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 230 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:42:58] <exec> 08└─I'm sorry, but wha???? It is the most redikulus piece of shite ever! Very unintuitive. Peoplewhohaveneveruseditsay"Wha?" It takes a lot of unintuitive work to get it to even a simple use, let alone an advanced use. Idiotsays"Duh"?
[21:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 924 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:00] <exec> 08└─We're probably the only two. I also liked the ribbon, because it gave everything a keyboard shortcut and made those shortcuts discoverable in a predictable manner. It also respected old keyboard accelerators for navigating the menus. I absolutely hate grabbing the mouse. Unfortunately, this notebook...
[21:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 2396 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:04] <exec> 08└─Presumably because one of the flaws in the OSS ideology is that most people aren't programmers, and most who are do not have the time, energy, knowledge or commitment to make what are potentially large changes to a project that might take months to understand well enough to be able to meaningfully c...
[21:43:06] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 235 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:07] <exec> 08└─As long as it stays optional then I see zero harm including a ribbon UI for anyone that wants it. Software should be about freedom and choice, hopefully the choices don't get limited or obfuscated the way browsers seem to love so much.
[21:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 451 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:09] <exec> 08└─That's the problem. Office XP had a barebones version of ribbon in the form of smart menus that would hide things that it didn't expect you to use frequently. The next version, Office 2003, the ribbon came and was mandatory. The problem with things like ribbons is that once you've paid for developer...
[21:43:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 118 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:12] <exec> 08└─I'll give you an 'amen', but I would argue that the Windows 8 UI was a catastrophe far worse than the ribbon disaster.
[21:43:14] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:3, Insightful) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 1252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:15] <exec> 08└─True as far as you go, but honestly this shouldn't surprise anyone. The whole concept of an office suite is completely wrong to begin with. Word is neither fit as a text editor nor as a DTP program. Excel might work ok if you could find anyone that actually uses it as a spreadsheet (I don't know, ne...
[21:43:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 478 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:17] <exec> 08└─Once the great unwashed hoardes began using computers, applications were bound to be used in unnatural ways that God never intended. Example: Back in the mid 1980's when Macintosh was new. A woman went on and on about how much better than Macintosh was for typing her text than using the typewriter....
[21:43:18] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 385 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:19] <exec> 08└─I think we now know where all those laid off Mozilla developers went. The lack of ribbon interface is a huge part of why I use LIbreoffice rather than Office. The fact that it's also free and supports open file standards are just that much better. I've hardly touched office as a result of the ribbon...
[21:43:20] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 517 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:21] <exec> 08└─Free and open standards. Also the ability to open some really obscure file formats. Claris Works? Also it runs on the OSes I use, including Windows. I can save a document directly to PDF -- and if I save it as a PDF/ODF hybrid, it can be re-opened in LibreOffice for editing. A PDF generated from Wri...
[21:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Optional, eh? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 109 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:23] <exec> 08└─The submitter's emphasis was on "completely optional", but I suspect the emphasis should be on "right now"...
[21:43:25] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:1) 02Re:Optional, eh? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 104 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:26] <exec> 08└─Does the project have a history of foisting unpopular changes on users? This isn't Microsoft or Mozilla.
[21:43:37] <exec> *** new comment: 03Arik [4543] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 131 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:38] <exec> 08└─A lot of anti-nuclear seems to come from people who grossly and ridiculously misunderstand fundamentals of physics and mathematics.
[21:43:41] <exec> *** new comment: 03butthurt [6141] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 207 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:41] <exec> 08└─The world's population has increased by 42% (from 5.3 billion to 7.5 billion) since 1990. https://en.wikipedia.org [wikipedia.org] http://www.worldometers.info [worldometers.info]
[21:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 225 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:43:43] <exec> 08└─While I understand the value of using a pipeline over rail / trucks, the impact on the tribe if anything goes wrong would be higher than any other area because that is the only land they have and they rely on it for survival.
[21:43:47] <exec> *** new comment: 03fritsd [4586] (Score:2) 02Why a pipeline for tar sands? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 999 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[21:43:47] <exec> 08└─I don't understand why they feel the need to build a long pipeline to transport fuel from Canada to the Mexican Gulf. Sure maybe a pipeline is safer for liquid fuel. But the input material is "tar sands" I have the understanding that this means it's chunks of asphalt bitumen with some sulphur and sa...
[21:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03gringer [962] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 342 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:44:09] <exec> 08└─Direct gene manipulation will result in a lot fewer fuck-ups than the current "acceptable" methods of breeding dogs with their siblings and cousins. At least if you're manipulating a single gene, you know that the effects are specifically associated with that gene manipulation, rather than one of ma...
[21:44:16] <exec> *** new comment: 03DannyB [5839] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 74 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[21:44:16] <exec> 08└─Government overreach. I would like a bio luminescent glow in the dark dog.
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[22:42:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Obvious supply... - 06Tokyo 2020 Olympics Asks Public to Donate Old Phones for Medals - 87 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:42:23] <exec> 08└─The guys across the sea would like to volunteer a giant pile of mostly-new flagships...
[22:42:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03jmorris [4844] (Score:2) 02Re:there is no "View > Toolbar Layout" - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:35] <exec> 08└─MS ribbon sucks... why would we want this?
[22:42:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03edIII [791] (Score:2) 02Autocad & Tablets - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 3132 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:37] <exec> 08└─What is the effin problem though? Other than it being Microsoft. I fully appreciate memorizing all the shortcut keys, and that can be useful, but it doesn't take away from dropdown menus or ribbons, but works together with them. I love the ribbon. It is a more pictorial (icons) representation of a d...
[22:42:43] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:The ''demand'' for this ''feature'' - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 250 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:44] <exec> 08└─My suggested dept. line was from the software-projects-playing-follow-the-leader dept. Perhaps not the best dept. line ever. I was thinking about the Firefox/Google thing I will admit. The editor's dept. line is from the that-only-took-10-years dept.
[22:42:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02''your complaining'' - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 370 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:46] <exec> 08└─I've grown quite tired of your complaining I'm old and I'm crotchety. The main thing that I do these days is bitch about stuff. If you aren't into that, do skip over my comments. As for the -content- of the 2 examples, one suggested that large numbers of users were champing at the bit for this featu...
[22:42:50] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Nerdfest [80] 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 421 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:51] <exec> 08└─The other bad thing about the "ribbon" is that it's not static. You need to look all over where things are. It might be good for someone who maybe ting to do something, but isn't really sure ... "Here, how about trying one of these things?". If you know what you want to do exactly, hotkeys are best....
[22:42:52] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02^ This - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 403 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:53] <exec> 08└─it's not static Yeah. Try to imagine a user with the ribbon UI and a guy in a call center trying to talk him through a problem. With a different-UI-for-every-user thing, at best, that's going to be difficult. If there was a reset-to-defaults/user's config toggle, that would be useful in this instanc...
[22:42:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 161 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:42:55] <exec> 08└─Same parent AC here. Hotkeys work perfectly well with ribbon! Press ALT and see for yourself. Unless you meant to say something else which I have misunderstood
[22:42:59] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Interesting) 02''Java'' - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 783 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:00] <exec> 08└─I may have been hasty with that description. (...and Donutz appears to be a poorly-informed anti-FOSS troll.) After a re-read, he seems to be saying that *LibreOffice* requires Java. That's not necessarily true for -all- users (as another comment there indicates). As I think about it a bit, I am rem...
[22:43:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03WillR [2012] (Score:1) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 177 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:04] <exec> 08└─And the old UI was better? Nothing says "intuitive" like digging through nested menus. Or 16-pixel-wide toolbar icons based on objects nobody under the age of 30 has ever used.
[22:43:07] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 1304 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:08] <exec> 08└─Everything had a shortcut with few exceptions for things people didn't routinely do prior to the invention of the ribbon. The ribbon itself makes it a lot harder to discover things as the organization is a complete mess. It's roughly ordered by type of thing to do and then it's purely a matter of st...
[22:43:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03kurenai.tsubasa [5227] (Score:1) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 633 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:10] <exec> 08└─I wouldn't exactly call the menus well organized either. Same thing. If you don't already know where it is, you're going to have a hell of a time finding it. I also don't see how the ribbon is any more front and center than the menu. It's bigger, but they both take up space. Plus, if I pull down a m...
[22:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 65 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:18] <exec> 08└─The next version, Office 2003, the ribbon came and was mandatory.
[22:43:19] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 28 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:20] <exec> 08└─As long as it stays optional
[22:43:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 96 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:24] <exec> 08└─>"One of the most attractive factors of LibreOffice is that there is no ridiculous "ribbon" UI."
[22:43:28] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 239 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:28] <exec> 08└─But it's far from a perfect implementation and it must be absolutely soul-killing for the people that work on these things, to spend your time duplicating Microsofts shitty designs and even duplicating their bugs to maintain compatibility.
[22:43:32] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 126 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:33] <exec> 08└─I can save a document directly to PDF -- and if I save it as a PDF/ODF hybrid, it can be re-opened in LibreOffice for editing.
[22:43:34] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 193 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:35] <exec> 08└─It's meant for printing primarily, and back in the day, it was rather expensive to buy the software needed to edit it anyways. Sticking to something like an .ODT is usually much better anyways.
[22:43:36] <exec> *** new comment: 03AthanasiusKircher [5291] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 143 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:37] <exec> 08└─One of the most attractive factors of LibreOffice is that there is no ridiculous "ribbon" UI. Why would they waste development time making one?
[22:43:40] <exec> *** new comment: 03tangomargarine [667] (Score:2) 02Re:Optional, eh? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 47 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:41] <exec> 08└─Mozilla didn't either, until suddenly they did.
[22:43:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Optional, eh? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 2421 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:43] <exec> 08└─The current, trendy thing to do in software is to make major changes, claim they will be optional, and then suddenly the old feature/interface/thing is "deprecated," never mind who uses it. Shortly thereafter it gets a bullet through the head unceremoniously in an arbitrary update. If you are lucky...
[22:43:56] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 307 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:43:56] <exec> 08└─A lot of anti-nuclear is indeed from people who do not understand how mindbogglingly immense the demand is, how gobsmackingly powerful nukes are, and how a few thousand cubic meters of steel, concrete and contaminated materials is many orders of magnitude safer and cleaner per GWh than the next best...
[22:44:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:2) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 678 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:02] <exec> 08└─Obummer Obummer he's so mean! Profitz over humanity!!! Progressive about profit, regressive about humanity! The simple fact that the pipeline endangers anyone's water supply is a problem. I'm glad Obama has managed to do a few decent things during his terms in office. As for blocking the project her...
[22:44:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:04] <exec> 08└─The simple fact that the pipeline endangers anyone's water supply is a problem.
[22:44:05] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Eating Your Own Dogfood - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 231 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:06] <exec> 08└─My advice: Put the pipeline back on its original route - upstream of Bismarck. If it poses no risk to the native people's land where it is now, then surely it poses no risk to Bismarck where it was originally planned to go. Right?
[22:44:09] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02My Suggestion - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 148 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:44:10] <exec> 08└─Run the damned pipeline. If someone gets in the way, shoot them. The greater good overrides snowflakes wants. Its always been that way, get over it.
[22:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:1, Insightful) 02Re:My Suggestion - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 86 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:12] <exec> 08└─Maybe the greater good would be better served by shooting those who want the pipeline.
[22:44:13] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Suggestion - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 703 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:14] <exec> 08└─Your version of "the greater good" is skewed. The greater good would be better served by moving to alternative energy sources, for the price of this pipeline we could build a few massive solar arrays and use any extra energy to produce biodiesel for emergencies. But hey, the American way is kill the...
[22:44:15] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:My Suggestion - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 57 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:16] <exec> 08└─Too bad there isn't a mod category for "sadistic douche".
[22:44:35] <exec> *** new comment: 03Phoenix666 [552] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 222 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:35] <exec> 08└─I reckon that's a mark of integrity. When you can mod up somebody you mostly disagree with, it says you can rise above petty tribalism and give credit where credit is due. I salute AH for it. I hope others follow her lead.
[22:44:39] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 6 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:39] <exec> 08└─Bingo.
[22:44:42] <exec> *** new comment: 03The Mighty Buzzard [18] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 140 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:43] <exec> 08└─Which is all fine and good until you flip the Super Mutant Hellhound gene. Or the Exude Toxic Sweat gene. And it somehow gets into the wild.
[22:44:49] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:Regarding ristrictions - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 129 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:44:50] <exec> 08└─Get rid of software patents and disallow animal patents. Pretty simple, except that our government is controlled by corporations.
[22:45:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:I totally hate Facebook - 06Facebook/Oculus Ordered to pay $500 Million to ZeniMax - 42 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:23] <exec> 08└─Why are you dragging Bill Gates into this?
[22:45:45] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:This will work well - 06All New Thai SIMs Will Require Fingerprint Registration From March - 387 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:45:45] <exec> 08└─Criminals will keep using the sim cards of dead people, but that will force them to find new victims in order to get burner SIMs. 106 million cells for 76 million people is a lot... >honest citizens get the shaft. Now they are tracked even more. Well, if they stopped having anti-government demonstra...
[22:46:30] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 252 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:46:31] <exec> 08└─Yeah, however bad the situation is now, the 'we can't perfectly solve every problem so let's give up completely' people are just making it even worse. I tend to think that making a problem even worse than it already was is a bad thing, for some reason.
[22:47:02] <exec> 08*** score 5 comment: 03Anonymous Coward 02Some things never change - 06NHS Reply-All Meltdown Swamped System With Half a Billion Emails - 148 chars - 04 http://soylentnews.org
[22:47:02] <exec> 08└─Off topic but the line Around 80 irritated folk promptly hit "reply" to demand they be removed from the list – which was when the meltdown began.
[22:47:24] <exec> *** new comment: 03Runaway1956 [2926] (Score:2) 02Re:What's happening here? - 06Spanish Police Arrest Suspected Hackers of Spyware Vendors - 401 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:24] <exec> 08└─No, the horse has been fed a diet of urine, and now he doesn't recognize clean water. The ONLY PLACE where Microsoft OS's actually lead Linux, is in gaming. And, the REASON for that is, Microsoft spread a lot of bribe and graft money around to the hardware manufacturers. That is changing, however. T...
[22:47:57] <exec> *** new comment: 03Joe Desertrat [2454] (Score:2) 02Re:wouldn't need more than a few bad years - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 554 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[22:47:57] <exec> 08└─There is serious speculation that the Little Ice Age was at least partly caused by the rapid reforestation [phys.org] of the Americas due to the sudden die-off of Native Americans after the Europeans arrived, so it is not a stretch to suppose that prior to that the activities of the Native Americans...
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[23:42:23] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Again? - 06Scientists Design Electricity Generator that Mimics Trees - 151 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:23] <exec> 08└─I've been hearing about this tech for a while now, doesn't sound like anything new has happened, just a publication to let us know they're still at it.
[23:42:31] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Political statement, but... - 06Tokyo 2020 Olympics Asks Public to Donate Old Phones for Medals - 653 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:31] <exec> 08└─This is a nice political statement Japan is making, how "real" is it? I'm thinking that there is a non-trivial amount of metal (especially gold and silver) needed for the medals. I'm aware that they are plated and not solid metal, but there is still a substantial amount. So for the gold, how much en...
[23:42:33] <exec> *** new comment: 03prospectacle [3422] (Score:2) 02I see what they did there - 06Tokyo 2020 Olympics Asks Public to Donate Old Phones for Medals - 729 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:42:34] <exec> 08└─According to this guy at this university: http://www.bren.ucsb.edu [ucsb.edu] You can make a slight profit (about 10c per phone) getting precious metals from old cell phones, especially if the volume is high. Costs about $1 to extract $1.1 of precious metals. S...
[23:42:46] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:there is no "View > Toolbar Layout" - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 182 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:42:46] <exec> 08└─... even when they're heading in completely the wrong direction (including bad UI choices. lack of options, removing features, and bad architecture .... I'm looking at your systemd).
[23:43:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 97 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:02] <exec> 08└─...and where I have to look to find that hotkey changes, and takes up *way* too much real-estate.
[23:43:03] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:1) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 82 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:03] <exec> 08└─Are hot-keys still discoverable, as they are with the traditional drop-down menus?
[23:43:12] <exec> *** new comment: 03Nerdfest [80] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 101 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:12] <exec> 08└─Toolbars with poor icons are not intuitive. Well-designed drill down menus are *extremely* intuitive.
[23:43:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Scruffy Beard 2 [6030] (Score:2) 02Re:I love ribbon - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 84 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:18] <exec> 08└─Apple went to some effort to standardize pull-down menus: Menu Bar Menus [apple.com]
[23:43:22] <exec> *** new comment: 03jimtheowl [5929] (Score:2) 02Re:Why!? - 06LibreOffice 5.3 Ships with Experimental Office-Like Ribbon UI - 1048 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:23] <exec> 08└─That is a lot of effort to portray OSS has having to catch up with features in commercial software when the topic at hamd is that the said feature is disliked and unwanted by most. It is almost as if those commercial entities are financing and pushing those changes over to OSS so that they can cove...
[23:43:54] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 162 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:43:54] <exec> 08└─It's become such a political hot potato, I wonder at the businesses still pushing it. Why don't they drop it and do something else? Controversy is very expensive.
[23:44:00] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 1249 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:01] <exec> 08└─In this case I disagree entirely. We have a number of alternative options that have been actively suppressed by energy companies for decades, and from all reports it sounds like this pipeline is not necessary to our energy security. The big upside of this pipeline is profit for a select few and a sm...
[23:44:02] <exec> *** new comment: 03khallow [3766] (Score:1) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 158 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:03] <exec> 08└─If it was private land then you'd have a better argument for executive overreach, but in this case it falls directly under the jurisdiction of the government.
[23:44:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Zz9zZ [1348] (Score:3, Touché) 02Re:Sabotage? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 391 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:05] <exec> 08└─So you make a big stink about Obama stopping them, but then it turns out to be a voluntary request, then you highlight "voluntary" (I pointed it out thank you very much) as if its a new point you insightfully came up with... Yeah you're not worth the time. I only respond for the benefit of other rea...
[23:44:08] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:Eating Your Own Dogfood - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 244 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:09] <exec> 08└─Rights to dig on suburban land cost much more than rights to go through the middle of nowhere, and closer to cities there are more owners whose permission has to be obtained. Running pipelines through the countryside is largely about economics.
[23:44:11] <exec> *** new comment: 03RedGreen [888] (Score:2) 02Re:Why a pipeline for tar sands? - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 580 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:44:12] <exec> 08└─"I have the understanding that this means it's chunks of asphalt bitumen with some sulphur and sandy rock (I could be wrong)." And indeed you are on pretty much the entire post. The oil sands are processed all that junk is removed so when it is put into pipeline it does have chance of flowing once d...
[23:44:17] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Trains Vs. Pipes - More propaganda lies - 06Army Corp of Engineers Now Accepting Public Comment on the Dakota Access Pipeline - 619 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:44:18] <exec> 08└─I felt this should be on the main comment list and not buried in a thread. The safety of pipelines is actually very questionable. According to the International Energy Agency trains have more spill incidents, but overall they spill 3x less oil than pipelines. Read more if you'd like. http://www.iea....
[23:45:01] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:If the gene is known - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 81 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:45:01] <exec> 08└─Then surely you can selectively breed it out just as easily as you can GM it out?
[23:45:04] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02It's to protect the Koreans - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 61 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:04] <exec> 08└─They like to eat dogs, Dalmation with Kimchee is a specialty.
[23:45:05] <exec> *** new comment: 03RamiK [1813] (Score:2) 02It's better to ask forgiveness than permission. - 06A Biohacker's Plan to Upgrade Dalmatians Ends Up in the Doghouse - 353 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org
[23:45:06] <exec> 08└─Next time just do it and announce your success in a press conference with lots of funfair and fireworks. No one likes a party pooper so politicians will keep their mouths shut while the media plays the clips of the happy puppies running around as the kids* are laughing and playing with them. It's e...
[23:46:50] <exec> *** new comment: 03bob_super [1357] (Score:2) 02Re:Geez, what a biased article - 06With Net Neutrality Pretty Much Dead in the US, Your Privacy is Next - 422 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:46:50] <exec> 08└─The leading contender for the French presidential election is in deep trouble, after a newspaper with a very register-like tone unearthed some quite unpleasant facts about his wife, kids, and consulting company (hundreds of thousands in shady/illegal income). That newspaper already has quite an impr...
[23:47:55] <exec> *** new comment: 03Anonymous Coward (Score:0) 02Re:no consideration of warfare? - 06Climate Change Likely Drove Population Decline in New World Before Europeans Arrived - 79 chars -04 http://soylentnews.org (parent: http://soylentnews.org)
[23:47:55] <exec> 08└─This sort of comment is why I am not a big fan of khallow posting. Signed, AC.
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